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Jaguars Reporters: October 8 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome into another edition of the Jags Reporters podcast. My
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  Speaker 1: name is J P. Shadrick. John osiers with us. What's
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  Speaker 1: up Johnny sitting here watching Ashley cheerio. Ashlan Sullivan is
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  Speaker 1: with us. She's hungry. You caught me at my snack time.
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  Speaker 1: What do you want from you? Put the phone down,
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  Speaker 1: you put the Twitter away for a little while. Good
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  Speaker 1: millennials these days, I tell you, so annoying, not at all.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for jumping out. Well, that's what this is about.
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  Speaker 1: Two podcasts. That's a new rage now too. So we're
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  Speaker 1: doing the cool kids are doing. Yeah, that's why we're
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  Speaker 1: doing it. That's right all of us. Let's talk some
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  Speaker 1: big Jaguars topics here, and let's start with something that's
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  Speaker 1: pretty topical for you, Ashley. I mean, you sat down
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  Speaker 1: today on Tuesday with the quarterback. Gardner meant you the
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  Speaker 1: second for a piece. It's going to come out later.
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  Speaker 1: Where when and what wasn't? Yes? So we uh if
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  Speaker 1: you guys remember way back in May when Foles was
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  Speaker 1: signed as a free agent, we sat down with Doug
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  Speaker 1: Groan and offensive coordinator John d. Philippo and broke down
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of foals touchdowns in Philly, UM, and it
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  Speaker 1: was really cool just to see how a coach and
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  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator think when they watch film. So we did
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  Speaker 1: that with Gardner actually today because I feel like we
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  Speaker 1: have seen so much the personality side of Gardner. We've
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  Speaker 1: seen the mush dash, the jeorts, the press conferences, but
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  Speaker 1: we really haven't seen the football I Q that everyone
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  Speaker 1: has talked about ever since he was drafted here that
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  Speaker 1: that's so doubt. I don't think fans have gotten a
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  Speaker 1: chance to see that side of him. So I was
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  Speaker 1: pretty impressed because I was so used to him joking
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  Speaker 1: around and I was asking him questions and it was
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  Speaker 1: it was straight football. Um. So we broke down four
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  Speaker 1: of his touchdowns so far this season and that will
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  Speaker 1: be on Jaguars dot Com on Friday Friday coming up.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna wait all the way to Friday. Can't deep
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  Speaker 1: teas looking forward to seeing that. And uh, I think
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  Speaker 1: what fans will see is a guy who's really a
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  Speaker 1: lot different than the demeanor. And UH, I wish that
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  Speaker 1: fans nationally meaning non Jaguars fans, these fans who just
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  Speaker 1: see the mustache, who just see the Twitter stuff on Gardner,
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  Speaker 1: I would see that. I guess they can. They can
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  Speaker 1: look at it just free site. There's no uh, there's
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  Speaker 1: no password. Not necessary. Um, because you don't do what
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  Speaker 1: he's doing without being off the charts good at the
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  Speaker 1: quarterback stuff and more and more. These kids now in
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  Speaker 1: his fifth game and you haven't seen any flaws in
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  Speaker 1: the system. If you will, you everything that he's doing,
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  Speaker 1: that he's doing well is stuff that is long term,
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  Speaker 1: is stuff that will last. He's not creating with his feet,
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  Speaker 1: he's not fluking into these things. He's reading the defense.
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  Speaker 1: He's only gonna get better at these spots. I think
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  Speaker 1: what Ashlyn is doing is looking is talking to the
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  Speaker 1: guy who's going to be the quarterback Sunday. He's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be the quarterback in the second half of the season.
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  Speaker 1: He he's the guy you're calling it right, thank you.
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  Speaker 1: I don't I don't see how you can pull him out.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna show flaws. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what they're gonna do with doesn't matter of the record
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  Speaker 1: at this point. Um, if he's playing like he's playing,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how the franchise comes off that. Because
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  Speaker 1: he's he's playing like a franchise quarterback. You I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he's not playing like Drew Brees, Peyton Manning and Rod that,
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  Speaker 1: but he's playing like young versions of those things. And
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what he could have shown so far
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  Speaker 1: to not deserve that opportunity. I think he's going to
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  Speaker 1: get it. Incredible right, and it's a it's an amazing
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  Speaker 1: story if that ends up being the case. Moving ahead
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  Speaker 1: over the next few weeks, we look forward to seeing
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  Speaker 1: that coming up on Friday, though. I think everybody will
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  Speaker 1: be excited for that. Now. It helps when you have
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  Speaker 1: guys around you making plays too. And today I had
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  Speaker 1: a chance to go to the Habitat for Humanity Project.
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  Speaker 1: There's one up here in the north of the stadium
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  Speaker 1: in North Jacksonville here and D J. Chark Jr. Was there. Um,
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  Speaker 1: he obviously works with his hands on a daily basis here. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: he was doing that today at the Habitat for Humanity
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  Speaker 1: build project. They're helping install some windows there. He's leading
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  Speaker 1: the A f C and receiving yardage and his body
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  Speaker 1: controls unbelievable. He's fast, he can out jump people, he's
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  Speaker 1: got everything going on. A year after you weren't so sure,
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  Speaker 1: you had the idea that he could come through and
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  Speaker 1: do it, but he just didn't show it on the field.
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  Speaker 1: Now it's I mean, he's among the top receivers in
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  Speaker 1: football and it's amazing to see this guy's maturation process.
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  Speaker 1: Actually it really is. Yeah, And we talked, I know,
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  Speaker 1: John was there postgame after the Panthers loss and we
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  Speaker 1: were talking about, you know, he was acknowledging the other
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  Speaker 1: wide receivers in the room how impressed he was that
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  Speaker 1: they all stayed so patient with him because everyone knew
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  Speaker 1: he had it in and we've been talking about for
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  Speaker 1: a year now that we know he has the athletic ability,
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  Speaker 1: it was just when is it going to click? And
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  Speaker 1: it clicked. Ever since the start of the season. We
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  Speaker 1: knew he had a great training camp, wasn't going to
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  Speaker 1: transfer to games. It definitely has. And when we were
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  Speaker 1: talking today in the film room with Gardner and I
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  Speaker 1: brought up DJ Shark and he was saying, how it's
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  Speaker 1: gone to the point now where the ball is snapped,
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  Speaker 1: he's looking where he is. I don't care what the
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  Speaker 1: play call is. I always in the back of my
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  Speaker 1: head and thinking where's Shark, because how could he not?
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  Speaker 1: He's so reliable. Their relationships so confident. Um, so it
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  Speaker 1: was cool to hear that regardless of the play, he
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  Speaker 1: wants to know where Chark is. Well, I mess, she's
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  Speaker 1: a smart guy. It's smart to look for Chark because
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  Speaker 1: he's always open. And you know, I only started covering
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  Speaker 1: football by twenty five years ago. Being open is a
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  Speaker 1: good thing. But he's he's um beyond that simple analysis. Um,
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  Speaker 1: what you wonder about DJ Shark is I look at
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  Speaker 1: him and I still see a player who in a
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  Speaker 1: lot of ways is raw. Uh. He's dramatically improved as
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  Speaker 1: a route runner. He is doing things veterans do. But
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  Speaker 1: I've got to think that he thinks, and that Keenan thinks,
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  Speaker 1: there's so much more this kid can do in terms
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  Speaker 1: of development. Um, he doesn't. He's getting so much of
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  Speaker 1: his production off long stuff, long crossing routes. Once he
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  Speaker 1: completely masters a third and five out patterns on third down, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: the quick throws across the middle. This analysis is going
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  Speaker 1: to be a criticism of him. I think he's only
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  Speaker 1: scratching the surface. I mean, and so much better than
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  Speaker 1: you thought he would be. Im It's become very vogue,
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  Speaker 1: obviously to talk about Gardner Minshew charts development. I think
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  Speaker 1: has really helped Menshew. It's given him a go to
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  Speaker 1: that I don't think people thought he was gonna have
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  Speaker 1: when he first came in. It's I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: say it's more remarkable than Minshew, because anything the quarterback
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  Speaker 1: does is remarkable, But charts development is easily the number
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  Speaker 1: two biggest most important story in this team right now
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  Speaker 1: because he always felt that the run game was at
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  Speaker 1: some point going to be there Leonard for net and
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  Speaker 1: the whole deal, but it wasn't. But you you've seen
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  Speaker 1: that before, you haven't seen chart it might be and
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  Speaker 1: and it's gonna sound observes. I'm a quarterback guy, but
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  Speaker 1: if you look at the league right now, it might
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  Speaker 1: be harder to find a true one than it is
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  Speaker 1: a a a functioning starting quarterback. Um. Most teams right
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  Speaker 1: now have quarterbacks they like, probably twenty five of them.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just going out that number. But it feels like
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  Speaker 1: when you look at most rosters like Okay, I either
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  Speaker 1: feel like this quarterback is going to develop or I
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  Speaker 1: feel like he's the guy. UM. True ones meaning a
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  Speaker 1: guy who can truly beat doubles, which a chart hadn't
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  Speaker 1: had to do yet. But that true Uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Michael Thomas, big time number one receiver who you have
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  Speaker 1: to defend or you're going to lose. Those guys are
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  Speaker 1: rare chart maybe developing into that, and those guys might
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  Speaker 1: be as hard or harder to find that I'm more valuable,
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  Speaker 1: but I think they're harder to find somebody. As we
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  Speaker 1: were talking on Monday Night Show, and you know, you
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  Speaker 1: guys have heard of Tony Boselli, right, he's around, He's
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  Speaker 1: on the wall and a whole deal. So we were
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  Speaker 1: discussing the wide receivers for this franchise, in this franchise's history,
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  Speaker 1: and he was making the argument that DJ Chark is
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  Speaker 1: already the third best receiver in franchise history, behind Jimmy
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  Speaker 1: and Keenan and Pech. Like Pete Priscoe was like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you may not be far off. And Allen Robinson had
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  Speaker 1: a year. You know, they had the run of receivers
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  Speaker 1: that didn't work out here in the higher rounds. Um
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  Speaker 1: Cecil Shortz wouldn't qualify. Justin Blackman had some big games
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  Speaker 1: but didn't last. Now it's early for charging get that,
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  Speaker 1: but it's hard, I mean, and I don't know, here's
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  Speaker 1: any question that he's going to be number three very quickly. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to complete discount what a Rob did,
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  Speaker 1: uh and what he's going to continue doing in his career.
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  Speaker 1: Remember a Rob's stuff. Everybody criticized Blake that year from
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  Speaker 1: mop up stuff, Well, a lot of Blake stuff was
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  Speaker 1: also a Rob stuff. So I was never sure that
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  Speaker 1: a Rob was going to be a a true must
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  Speaker 1: guard you lose the game one. And what I mean
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  Speaker 1: by that is if you don't guard him a certain way,
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  Speaker 1: Chart's gonna beat you. And then if you do guard
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  Speaker 1: him a certain way, it has to be. Doubles is
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  Speaker 1: what he's gearing toward. And if you double him all
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden, you can dictate what you're doing offensively
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  Speaker 1: off of that. That's rare, but I think D's on
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  Speaker 1: his way to that. Um, he's right now. He's had
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  Speaker 1: about the career that black Men had black Man. It's
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  Speaker 1: a monster games. So black Man still probably I assume
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  Speaker 1: has more yards and all that. But DJ is clearly
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  Speaker 1: gonna play longer and have a career. I think he's
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  Speaker 1: going to be their first one since Jimmy Smith. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and this is the these catchers. Arabs catched a lot
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  Speaker 1: of those of the mop up coming back trailing in
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  Speaker 1: games and they were out of games. So these are
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  Speaker 1: in games that are tight that matter. I mean that
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  Speaker 1: they they're throwing the ball, they're winning games, they're in
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  Speaker 1: games to try to win. I mean, these yards are
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  Speaker 1: yards that matter, and I think that's a big difference
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  Speaker 1: in these things. Yeah, even when she was talking about today,
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  Speaker 1: Um one of the chart touchdown in the Panthers game,
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  Speaker 1: not the first one, the second one when it was
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  Speaker 1: the crossing route and he faked it for not he
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  Speaker 1: was saying he got hit in the helmet, which is
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  Speaker 1: why the throw was higher than it was supposed to be. Um,
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  Speaker 1: he said, I had no doubt that if it's anywhere
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  Speaker 1: in the vicinity of chart, he's going to get it. Well,
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  Speaker 1: to think about what he's doing to the touchdowns that
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  Speaker 1: he's scoring matter. Yeah, the one against Kansas City that
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  Speaker 1: he got from Folds, they were it was in the
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  Speaker 1: heat of the game when it got them back into
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  Speaker 1: the game, temporary for Foals got hurt and everything came off.
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  Speaker 1: Should have tied the game or should have won the
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  Speaker 1: game against Houston, had one taken away in Denver, that
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  Speaker 1: was a must situation where they're trying to come back.
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  Speaker 1: He his touchdowns have gotten them back in games, have
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  Speaker 1: have tied games. They catch the other day, they got
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  Speaker 1: them back onto the one yard line. Um, he's making
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  Speaker 1: plays that get them back in the games where they
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  Speaker 1: feel like it's getting away from him. Those are monster plays.
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  Speaker 1: A Rabs catches in the one year that he had
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  Speaker 1: can't stack up to that because the team wasn't as competitive.
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  Speaker 1: It's not a knock on a rob is just the
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  Speaker 1: situations were different. DJ Chart makes big plays when they matter.
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  Speaker 1: John Osier with us Ashelan Sullivan, I'm JP Shattick the
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  Speaker 1: Jags Reporters podcast. Let's flip it around a defense. A
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  Speaker 1: couple more topics here on this Tuesday. Um, we've heard
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  Speaker 1: all about the run fits or lack thereof last week.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of guys, as Tony put it Monday night,
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  Speaker 1: chasing ghosts and then the middle of the field opened up.
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  Speaker 1: McCaffrey's running like pretty much right. And the question now
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  Speaker 1: is how do you fix it? I mean, do you
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  Speaker 1: You're not changing personnel? I don't think at this point.
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  Speaker 1: Jake Ryan ain't walking through that door. As we said
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  Speaker 1: last night as well. UM, the linebackers that are here
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  Speaker 1: are here, right, And that's where the guys kind of
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  Speaker 1: focused on their criticism of the defense yesterday. What do
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  Speaker 1: you think, well, run fits get fit, and fortunately, gap
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  Speaker 1: issues and run fits are things that can be fixed
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  Speaker 1: with the personnel at hand, and you stop getting blocked
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  Speaker 1: out of plays easily, which has happened. You stop chasing ghosts,
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  Speaker 1: which means you stop going after you get your reads correctly.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of times run fits are based on the linebackers,
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  Speaker 1: particularly the safeties, to reading the wrong things or misreading
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  Speaker 1: of the line of scrimmage. The biggest thing in my experience,
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  Speaker 1: happens with it with run fits or when guys are
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  Speaker 1: trying to make the big play, trying to make the
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  Speaker 1: tackle when their job is to basically stay in your lane,
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  Speaker 1: stay in your lange line. Um you know, and uh,
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  Speaker 1: it's essentially for the football novice, you're supposed to fit
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  Speaker 1: into a gap and basically play that regardless of where
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  Speaker 1: the runner is at the time. You're playing in gap three,
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  Speaker 1: for example, the guy next yeas in gap four, gap five.
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  Speaker 1: If two guys jump into gap four, gap three's open
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  Speaker 1: and it's Katie bar the door. So that's what happens
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  Speaker 1: is it's often over zealousness and just saying be patient,
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  Speaker 1: play the scheme. When I was with the Colts, they
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  Speaker 1: had this similar problem in two thousand and six way
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  Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. They got run on for three
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  Speaker 1: seventy five out here because they weren't playing their gaps.
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  Speaker 1: The big thing they talked about that week was trust
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  Speaker 1: the guy next to you. Trust that he's going to
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  Speaker 1: make the play, so you don't have to do more
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  Speaker 1: than your job. Do your job, job, Flint Miles Jack
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  Speaker 1: took a lot of the blame for this in the
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  Speaker 1: locker room. Defensive captain, middle linebacker, getting guys in the
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  Speaker 1: right spot. Um, you know, he kind of took the
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  Speaker 1: fall for this thing. And I mean, honestly, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think anyone's gonna say it out right, but it is
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  Speaker 1: on him. I mean, he's the captain of the defense,
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  Speaker 1: he's the middle linebacker, and he did credit to him
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  Speaker 1: take the blame for it post game. But he even
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  Speaker 1: mentioned in the postgame press conference that he was trying
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  Speaker 1: to make big plays looking at the quarterback and he
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  Speaker 1: kept getting faked out when Kyle Allen would hump going
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  Speaker 1: for the big time play the sack. And yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: mean Christian McCaffrey's eighty what was an eighty four yard run? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: that was Miles Jack. Yeah, looking at the quarterback. So
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  Speaker 1: it's on all linebackers, it's on the entire defense. But
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  Speaker 1: if I'm Miles Jack, I'm definitely focusing on me this week.
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  Speaker 1: And and what Schlynn said is the definition of what happens.
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  Speaker 1: You watch the quarterback. He gets you into one lane,
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  Speaker 1: your lanes open and I and your gaps open, and
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  Speaker 1: it's and when that happens, and it happens to a linebacker,
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  Speaker 1: it amy comes up to the safe. There's a reason
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  Speaker 1: they're called safeties. Everybody's coming the linebackers this week. There's
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  Speaker 1: a reason they're called safeties. They're supposed to be the
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  Speaker 1: last line of fancy for that because say too, so
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  Speaker 1: it's not just the linebackers. When linebackers are out of
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  Speaker 1: their gaps, supposed to be an eight yard play. When
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  Speaker 1: safety's are out of the gap, it's a touchdown. So
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  Speaker 1: it's equal. You guys were both in Charlotte, of course,
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  Speaker 1: and then we were all in the locker room on Monday,
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  Speaker 1: but there wasn't much happening in the locker room Monday.
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  Speaker 1: I mean a lot of guys are out of there.
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  Speaker 1: But the feel in that locker room after the game,
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  Speaker 1: it didn't seem, at least in the videos that I saw,
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  Speaker 1: that anybody was really freaking out. There's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: football left for this team, and the offense is doing
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  Speaker 1: some good things, and the defense they feel like they
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  Speaker 1: can get back at least we'll see. They got to
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  Speaker 1: go approve it. But it didn't seem like anybody's freaking out, Ashley.
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  Speaker 1: I guess is what I'm trying to say is that
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  Speaker 1: accurate freaking out is a term from the freaking It
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  Speaker 1: means losing your cool rightly good, which I'm sure, I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure they're a young kid's way of saying it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I lose my cool, but I didn't in the Panther's
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  Speaker 1: postgame because no one else did. You were correct with that, um,
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  Speaker 1: I would say the world was more so agitated, just
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  Speaker 1: agitated that it didn't end out the way that they
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  Speaker 1: wanted to. But I know Unique and gok Way was
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  Speaker 1: talking about how it's so great for the defense to
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  Speaker 1: be on the sidelines and trust that the offense is
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  Speaker 1: going to score. I mean, that hasn't been like that
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  Speaker 1: in a long time. Here, and I think that's the
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  Speaker 1: biggest take away, at least for me in the locker room,
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  Speaker 1: was the defense has faith in the offense. The defense
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  Speaker 1: knew it was on them last week and their confident
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna get fixed. They're two and three. Uh, they
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  Speaker 1: were three and two this time last year. Um, But
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  Speaker 1: I don't think anybody around this team who has any
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  Speaker 1: sort of a feel for the team would deny that
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  Speaker 1: there is a dramatically different field going into Week six
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  Speaker 1: playing the Saints at home, and there was going to
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  Speaker 1: that Cowboys game last year. I wasn't surprised at all
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  Speaker 1: watching it they got their doors blowing off in that
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  Speaker 1: game because it felt like something shaky it happened against
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  Speaker 1: Kansas City, injuries, whatever it was, the foundation was broken
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  Speaker 1: at that point. Not at all that feeling right now. Um,
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  Speaker 1: even though the two and three compared to three and
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  Speaker 1: two two years ago, I get a very similar feeling
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: with this team from from listening to coaches, listening to
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: the vibe as I had coming out of Pittsburgh at
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: three and two two years ago, where you all of
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: a sudden thought this team might have something. I don't know,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: I'll play out, but the coaches and players on this
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: team think they got something. They think they found something.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Uh with Minshew, I don't know if it's the camaraderie
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: was saying, Hey, Jalen is not here and we're still
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: competitive without Uh, that's okay too, you know. I don't
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: know if there's a circle in the wagon scents with that.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: Don't know what it is, but it's so dramatically different
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: than it was this time last year. They've got to
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: play it out and win games to back up that feeling.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: But it wouldn't surprise me all of this team gets
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: on a roll. Uh. It feels like two thousand seventeen
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: to mean a lot more than this two has an eighteen.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: You mentioned Jalen. That will be a storyline this week
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: to see how the second opinion and all that went,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: and we'll find out from head coach Doug Marone on Wednesday.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: I am sure he'll be asked about that. That will
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: be the big national storyline moving ahead here, and I
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: think that will be the start of every week until
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: it's not a story anymore either way. That's why we
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: just put it in the back of the podcast. And
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: there's so much better with him on the field. I
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: get all that, but at this point, I think they
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: feel like and I think coach just feel like it'll
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: be harder to win without him. But I think they've
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: seen that there's a formula to do without him. And
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: I think the attitude a lot of people is we
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: love Jail and he's great if he comes back with
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: that much better, but we're not dependent on him, and
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: I think that's okay. If we learned anything this week,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: ash from careful what you put on social media sometimes
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: freak out. Freak out, people freak out over that. I
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: was told that in my sorority applies to life. Wow.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: A good college lesson there, All right, guys, thanks a lot,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Ashlan Sullivan, John Osier, UM, it's gonna be a fun week. Yeah,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: I'm excited for it. John is too. If only you
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: could see as am I for our crew. I'm JP Shaddick.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to the Jags Reporters podcast.