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Two Schoolyard UFO Encounters · UFOS & PARANORMAL WITH PRESTON DENNETT

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  Speaker 1: Hello everyone, my name is Preston Dennett and welcome to
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  Speaker 1: a new episode of UFOs and the Paranormal. I call
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  Speaker 1: this episode Two Schoolyard UFO Encounters. I've been studying schoolyard
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  Speaker 1: UFO encounters for some time. I've documented more than 100
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  Speaker 1: cases and I find these types of cases particularly fascinating.
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  Speaker 1: They are absolutely different from your average encounter, which is
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  Speaker 1: usually in a nominalist light, seen late at night, darting
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  Speaker 1: by pretty high overhead and moving off. These cases are
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  Speaker 1: significantly different in a number of ways. Typically, schoolyard UFO
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  Speaker 1: encounters occur during the day. These are daylight encounters. Secondly,
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  Speaker 1: these sightings are very low level, a few hundred feet.
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  Speaker 1: And in fact, in one third of the cases, they
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  Speaker 1: are landings in which often humanoids are seen. Thirdly, these
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  Speaker 1: are long-lasting sightings. Also, what makes them different from your
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  Speaker 1: average sighting is they are widely viewed. Large crowds of people,
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  Speaker 1: and often teachers as well, see these objects. What I
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  Speaker 1: find also fascinating is that of the 100 schoolyard UFO
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  Speaker 1: encounters I've documented, over half involve elementary schools. So the
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  Speaker 1: reason I wanted to do this episode today, because I
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  Speaker 1: have covered schoolyard UFO encounters in previous episodes, is that
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  Speaker 1: in these two cases, I have recordings from the witnesses' fathers.
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  Speaker 1: The witnesses in both these cases were very young, elementary-age.
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  Speaker 2: Girls.
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  Speaker 1: Very young witnesses. And in each of these cases, their fathers...
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  Speaker 1: reported their case firsthand. So what I'd like to do
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  Speaker 1: is actually play the recordings of these interviews, which I
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  Speaker 1: think is far more interesting than just me talking about them,
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  Speaker 1: but hearing directly from the witnesses' fathers themselves. The first
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  Speaker 1: case took place on May 2, 1977, over the city
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  Speaker 1: of Downey, California. I don't know the exact school where
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  Speaker 1: this took place, but it was in Downey, a fairly
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  Speaker 1: densely populated area. This occurred at around 11 a.m. and
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  Speaker 1: was witnessed by a large group of elementary age school children.
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  Speaker 1: It's a fascinating case and I'll just let the father
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  Speaker 1: of the witness talk about it in his own words.
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  Speaker 1: So let's take a listen.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, have you received any reports Monday on a UFO
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  Speaker 3: sighting in the Downey area or Lakewood area?
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  Speaker 4: No, sir.
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  Speaker 2: Did you see something?
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  Speaker 3: Well, my little girl and her classmates saw it. And
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  Speaker 3: then I found, well, this was Monday when they saw it.
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  Speaker 3: They were playing at school. And then I heard from
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  Speaker 3: other people who also... My mother-in-law who teaches, different people
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  Speaker 3: in her class were talking about it, but my little
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  Speaker 3: girl and her classmates came right down over to their
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  Speaker 3: school and they were able to make.
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  Speaker 4: Drawings of it.
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  Speaker 3: This was Monday around 11 o'clock, 11.30, and we're in
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  Speaker 3: an apartment complex practically right behind the school. On Monday,
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  Speaker 3: I'd say between 11 and 11.30, a vibration kind of
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  Speaker 3: started in the apartment in which we're living. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know if it was self or the rest of the units,
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  Speaker 3: but anyway, the apartment in which we're living starts to vibrate.
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  Speaker 3: And I didn't connect it through until she told us
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  Speaker 3: of this. Well, she described it, and she told us,
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  Speaker 3: that evening, Monday evening, about it. And I happened to
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  Speaker 3: think of that vibration, which I couldn't account for, because
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  Speaker 3: when it started, it wasn't caused by anything I could
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  Speaker 3: relate it to. And so, anyway, I was curious, because
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  Speaker 3: she wasn't the first one to see it. Some of
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  Speaker 3: her classmates saw it, and then our little girl saw it,
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  Speaker 3: and she said, and she was able to make this
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  Speaker 3: drawing of it. And the stories... you know the stories
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  Speaker 3: all all corroborate so I called the school and they
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  Speaker 3: to ask if there was any if the children had
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  Speaker 3: been talking about it and they said no no they
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  Speaker 3: not to their knowledge but they did talk to the
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  Speaker 3: the girls that saw it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay what what kind of description did they give well
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  Speaker 2: the way.
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  Speaker 3: The way it was that they were playing and in
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  Speaker 3: the schoolyard and it's the elementary school and they the
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  Speaker 3: one classmate called the other other children's attention to it
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  Speaker 3: and she said it was like a big silver ball
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  Speaker 3: and she said it was she said it was as
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  Speaker 3: bright as as the sun it seemed to be as
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  Speaker 3: bright as the sun and it was coming and it
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  Speaker 3: was over the school and on that on that day
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  Speaker 3: monday it was the visibility here was perfect the sky
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  Speaker 3: was blue there was there were no clouds and uh
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  Speaker 3: And it was an unusually clear condition. There was no smog.
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  Speaker 3: And she said it was like a big silver ball.
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  Speaker 3: And then she said it was surrounded by rings of color.
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  Speaker 3: And she said it was like trying to come down
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  Speaker 3: to us. And she then said in the center of
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  Speaker 3: it there appeared another bright sun. She said a real
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  Speaker 3: bright sun in the center of it. And that got
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  Speaker 3: real bright. And at that point they became frightened. So
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  Speaker 3: I said, how large was it? She said it was
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  Speaker 3: about as large as a street. Well, she meant as
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  Speaker 3: large as a street is wide, I guess. And we
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  Speaker 3: took her to the school, and on the school playground,
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  Speaker 3: like they had these areas more stenciled out on a
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  Speaker 3: paving for games and so forth. And there's a very
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  Speaker 3: large circle, and the circle must be at least 30
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  Speaker 3: feet in diameter. And I said, now, was it as
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  Speaker 3: large as this circle? She said, oh, yeah. She said,
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  Speaker 3: bigger than that. And she said, it stayed there, and
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  Speaker 3: it was watching them. She said it was watching them.
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  Speaker 3: So I said, well, what happened then? She said, well,
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  Speaker 3: the school bell rang, and we went in. And she said,
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  Speaker 3: I looked over my shoulder to look at it again.
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  Speaker 3: And she said, it will probably come back tomorrow. So
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  Speaker 3: we questioned the other girls, and the story is the
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  Speaker 3: same with them. And it's a dangerous thing. So my
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  Speaker 3: mother-in-law was at class. The other day, and they were
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  Speaker 3: talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Something.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know exactly what. They were talking about more
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  Speaker 3: or less the same thing, a UFO sighting. So I
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  Speaker 3: called the police department to see if there were any reports,
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  Speaker 3: but this was Monday night now, so she said you'd
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  Speaker 3: have to call back earlier tomorrow.
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  Speaker 4: And they gave me your number.
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  Speaker 3: So the thing that puzzles me is that the kids
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  Speaker 3: were able to describe this thing, I said, well, now,
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  Speaker 3: what were these rings coming out from it? She said, well,
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  Speaker 3: they were like the colors in the rainbow. And then
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  Speaker 3: she said, no, she said they were colored, but they
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  Speaker 3: weren't like the rainbow, but there were two rings, and
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  Speaker 3: they came out from it. And I said, now, this
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  Speaker 3: bright sun that came out of the center of it,
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  Speaker 3: I said, was it there all the time? She said, no.
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  Speaker 3: She said, when it wasn't there before, there was just
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  Speaker 3: like a big gray area. So it's just an amazing thing.
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  Speaker 3: And then this vibration that we felt in the apartment
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  Speaker 3: complex had to happen at the same time because I
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  Speaker 3: connected the two. And they were at recess around 11, 11.30,
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  Speaker 3: between 11 and 11.30, and that's when this vibration started.
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  Speaker 3: And it only lasted for, I would say the vibration
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  Speaker 3: only lasted for.
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  Speaker 5: 10 or 15 seconds at the most.
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  Speaker 4: So I think it's.
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  Speaker 3: Just something that I, you know, I'm surprised that others
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  Speaker 3: at the school didn't see it. But I haven't really
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  Speaker 3: gone over there. I was going to take the drawings
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  Speaker 3: that these little girls made and take them over and
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  Speaker 3: ask perhaps if someone, maybe an adult teacher or someone
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  Speaker 3: else might have seen it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, did they actually see this object leave?
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  Speaker 5: Pardon me?
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  Speaker 2: Did they see the object leave?
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  Speaker 3: No, they all went back into the classroom.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I see.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and she said when she looked over her shoulder,
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  Speaker 3: it was still there.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, did they give any estimate as to how high
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  Speaker 2: that thing was?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was trying to have her give me an idea,
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  Speaker 3: and we were looking at some poles, some high poles, and...
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  Speaker 3: It would be my guess. She pointed to a really
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  Speaker 3: high pole, and it would be my guess it was, oh,
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  Speaker 3: at least several hundred feet, maybe several hundred.
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  Speaker 4: Feet off the ground.
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  Speaker 3: But from the way she described it, as large as
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  Speaker 3: she described it, like this circle. Are you trying?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, see.
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  Speaker 3: See, my wife was saying that after she drew the picture,
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  Speaker 3: we have a film can here. It's like a can
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  Speaker 3: they put film in. And I said, well, the funny
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  Speaker 3: part of it was when it did the drawing. So
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  Speaker 3: I said, now you draw what it looked like. So
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  Speaker 3: she drew her classmates on the ground on a separate
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  Speaker 3: piece of paper, and the playground was the trees and
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  Speaker 3: the swings. And she named each of her friends. And
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  Speaker 3: then she drew on another piece of paper the round object.
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  Speaker 3: And she drew it perfectly round. And around the perimeter,
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  Speaker 3: she put these two rings that were coming out from it.
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  Speaker 3: And then right in the center, she drew a smaller circle,
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  Speaker 3: which she colored yellow. So she was trying to... I
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  Speaker 3: was looking at her. She didn't know I was watching her.
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  Speaker 3: But she was puzzled because she put the piece of
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  Speaker 3: paper that had the object on it above the piece
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  Speaker 3: of paper that had her... she and her classmates playing.
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  Speaker 3: And she knew she wasn't quite getting it the way
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  Speaker 3: she wanted it. So my wife put the paper on
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  Speaker 3: where she drew the object at right angles. And she says, yes,
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  Speaker 3: that's how it was.
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  Speaker 4: It was like right above us.
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  Speaker 3: So then we held up this film can and we said, now,
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  Speaker 3: was it solid looking like this?
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  Speaker 4: Was it metallic looking? And she says, yes.
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  Speaker 3: She says, was it silver and metallic looking? And so
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  Speaker 3: the size of it If it was larger than this circle,
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  Speaker 3: it had to be quite low, because this circle, as
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  Speaker 3: I said, is at least 30 feet in diameter. So
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  Speaker 3: she gave as good a description of something that you
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  Speaker 3: could certainly ever hope for.
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  Speaker 2: Did they hear any sound?
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  Speaker 3: No, I asked her, and she says, no, there was
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  Speaker 3: no sound. And when we asked if there was any sound,
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  Speaker 3: she said there was no sound. That's when I remember
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  Speaker 3: the vibration.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: And so whatever that vibration was, it was very unsettling.
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  Speaker 3: The vibration, when it started, it was very unsettling because
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  Speaker 3: it was like a high-intensity vibration. That is, the dishes
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  Speaker 3: and things weren't rattling. It was like a very high,
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  Speaker 3: however you might describe it, things were just like humming.
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  Speaker 5: Uh-huh.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. And how old was she?
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  Speaker 3: She was seven.
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  Speaker 4: Seven, okay.
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  Speaker 3: I asked her if the rest of her classmates saw,
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  Speaker 3: and she said, well, she didn't know because they were
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  Speaker 3: looking up at it. But she wasn't the first one
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  Speaker 3: to see it. It was her friend, and then about
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  Speaker 3: four of her friends were all looking up.
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  Speaker 5: At it, she said.
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  Speaker 3: And she said they were looking straight up at it.
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  Speaker 3: So she trained her, put her head back, and it
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  Speaker 3: had to be almost directly overhead.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Did they actually see this thing descending towards them, or
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  Speaker 2: was it stationary?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know when this wind saw it.
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  Speaker 4: I would have to ask her that.
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  Speaker 2: Did she mention how many were in that group of children?
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  Speaker 3: I would say about four or five.
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  Speaker 2: Four or five, okay.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, she knows them by name because I guess they're
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  Speaker 3: all the same age.
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  Speaker 2: Do you still have those drawings?
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  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we have the drawings. They're really humorous because the
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  Speaker 4: way she drew the children and then this object.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Is there any possibility of getting those?
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  Speaker 5: Oh, sure.
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  Speaker 4: We'll get a letter off to you about that.
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  Speaker 3: All right, sir.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we sure appreciate this report, and we're going to
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  Speaker 2: check into this right away and see if we can't
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  Speaker 2: come up with some information on it. And it's the
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  Speaker 2: object which she has described or you've described to me
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  Speaker 2: would fit the category of what we refer to as
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  Speaker 2: the Saturn-type object, the sphere surrounded by rotating bands or
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  Speaker 2: colored bands right down through the center.
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  Speaker 5: Uh-huh.
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  Speaker 2: And it comes as a surprise that this took place
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  Speaker 2: in broad daylight like this because this usually doesn't happen.
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  Speaker 5: Uh-huh.
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  Speaker 2: But we're going to check into it anyway and see
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  Speaker 2: if we can't come up with some more information. And
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  Speaker 2: if we get it, we'll get back to you and
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  Speaker 2: let you know.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, well, thank you now.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you very much.
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  Speaker 5: Bye.
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  Speaker 1: As you can see, it's a truly fascinating case with
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  Speaker 1: some very unusual elements. And that brings us to the
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  Speaker 1: second case, which is really remarkable because as it turns out,
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  Speaker 1: this second case took place in Encinitas, California on May 6th, 1977.
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  Speaker 1: That's just four days after the first sighting and about
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  Speaker 1: 85 miles to the south. That's highly coincidental that these
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  Speaker 1: are so close in time and space. Another very interesting
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  Speaker 1: aspect about this sighting is we know the exact school.
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  Speaker 1: It's at Ocean Knoll Elementary School. Both these areas where
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  Speaker 1: these sightings have occurred are right along the Southern California coast,
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  Speaker 1: which is very active in terms of UFOs. So that
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  Speaker 1: might also be a factor here. But this second case
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  Speaker 1: is particularly compelling because it involves two sightings, humanoids were seen,
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  Speaker 1: and apparently this craft landed and remained in place for
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  Speaker 1: about an hour. It's truly a fascinating case, which should
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  Speaker 1: be far more well-known than it is. So let's just
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  Speaker 1: listen to the father of the witness in this second
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  Speaker 1: case at 11. Ocean Knoll Elementary School in Encinitas, California.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, sir, I'm calling for the UFO Reporting Center in Washington.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yes.
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  Speaker 2: And we had an unnamed caller left a message at
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  Speaker 2: our office today regarding something that you were supposed to
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  Speaker 2: have seen several days ago.
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  Speaker 3: Where are you calling from?
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  Speaker 2: Seattle, Washington.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, no, that was my son left you that.
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  Speaker 2: I see.
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  Speaker 3: No, I didn't see it myself. This happened about... a
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  Speaker 3: block away from where I live, about 15 school children
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  Speaker 3: saw it, and the teacher.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I see.
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  Speaker 3: And one of the school children was my daughter. That's
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  Speaker 3: how it came to mind. Well, it was a wonderful sight.
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  Speaker 3: The thing hung there for five minutes, and all the
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  Speaker 3: kids just stared at it. Do you want me to
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  Speaker 3: tell you about it?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, sir. We'd like to hear all about it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, there's a little canyon behind... You know where Anthony
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  Speaker 3: this is?
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  Speaker 2: No, sir. Well, I do by the map.
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  Speaker 3: About 30 miles north of San Diego. Okay. Right along
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  Speaker 3: the ocean. My children go to a school called Oceanon.
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  Speaker 3: And there's a small canyon right behind the school. And
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  Speaker 3: at 8.30... They saw this thing go down in that canyon. Now,
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  Speaker 3: whether it ever landed there or just hovered down in there,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. And they were trying to climb. There
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  Speaker 3: was a fence around the play yard, of course, and
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  Speaker 3: they couldn't get out of the play yard, but they
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  Speaker 3: were trying to climb the fence so they could look
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  Speaker 3: down in the canyon, but they couldn't see it. And
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  Speaker 3: then an hour later, at 9.30, this thing came up
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  Speaker 3: out of the canyon and just hovered right at eye
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  Speaker 3: level where they could look right in the windows and everything.
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  Speaker 3: See the people inside. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And.
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  Speaker 3: It just hovered there for about five minutes. And finally
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  Speaker 3: it raised up and it came over and it circled
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  Speaker 3: the schoolyard with all the kids looking at it. And
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  Speaker 3: then they say it disappeared just by going right straight
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  Speaker 3: up in the air until it disappeared out of sight. Now,
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  Speaker 3: the strange thing about this whole thing, they run in
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  Speaker 3: and tell their teacher what they saw. And the teacher says,
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  Speaker 3: just forget it. Forget you saw anything. And I can't
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  Speaker 3: understand that mentality. It just baffles me. And the teacher
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  Speaker 3: that stood there and saw it with him told the
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  Speaker 3: kids to forget they saw anything.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 2: While we run into this.
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  Speaker 3: You run into that all the time?
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: It baffles me and it rages me at the same
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  Speaker 3: time that they would tell my... You know, to see
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  Speaker 3: a UFO is one of the sights to see in
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  Speaker 3: this century. One of the great sights, if you're lucky
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  Speaker 3: enough to see one. There my daughter saw one and told...
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  Speaker 3: and told her to forget about it.
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  Speaker 2: Right. How old was your daughter? She's 10. 10, okay.
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  Speaker 2: That's a good observing age.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and there was a girl that had a pair
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  Speaker 3: of binoculars. She just happened to have a pair. They
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  Speaker 3: were going to watch birds or something. And she watches
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  Speaker 3: things through her binoculars. And we went over to the
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  Speaker 3: house to see her. And because the teacher, we didn't
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  Speaker 3: see her at the house.
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  Speaker 4: She wasn't there.
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  Speaker 3: But my wife saw her later that day in a store.
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  Speaker 3: And she said, oh, she's going to tell us about
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  Speaker 3: the UFO. And she said, I didn't see anything. We
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  Speaker 3: didn't see anything. And the girl was probably the best
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  Speaker 3: that saw the thing, best of all of them, you know,
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  Speaker 3: but turned off by the teacher's attitude. And another little
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  Speaker 3: boy that was all excited about it and everything, like,
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: his reaction was the same thing. That wasn't nothing. But
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: at the time, my daughter was telling me he was
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: all excited and he knew what a UFO was and everything,
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: but that they turned him off on it. Do you
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: run into that all the time?
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, yes.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Now, do you remember the exact date on that?
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: Friday a week ago, in the morning. I'd have to
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: get a calendar.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: That would be a week ago last Friday?
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: Yes, last Friday.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Okay, then that would probably be May 6th.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. Okay. That's right.
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: Now these, you know, the real story is to get
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: these kids together and let them tell.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: You what they saw. We did talk to some other
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: kids that saw it. There were about five kids in
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: one family, and they were all.
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: Excited about it.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: I tried to collaborate what everyone said, about it didn't
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: make any noise and didn't make any noise. One boy
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: insisted it didn't make any noise, but my daughter says
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: it did make a noise, like a slight roar, you know.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: But they all agreed on the color, and they all
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: agreed that it had windows in the side. They all
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: agreed that you could look in and see people inside.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: I say people, and he said that the one boy
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: said they looked like they had masks over their faces.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: And my little girl said they looked like their faces
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: were all rough-like. Funny observation, huh? Yeah. But they generally
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: agreed where it was, what it did, and how it disappeared.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: They all agreed on that, you know. It circled over
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: the schoolyard and just went right on straight up in
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: the air, and they never saw it again. Now, this
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: was a UFO. This was no helicopter or an airplane,
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: because my little girl had seen.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Thousands of them, you know.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: She couldn't possibly have.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: Okay, now what kind of description did she give of
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: this vehicle?
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: Silver.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Silver?
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: Silver. And she said, Daddy, it looked just like a plate.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: It was flat on the bottom and round on the top.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: The traditional saucer.
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: Thing, you know.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: And they made another observation there, that as it caught
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: the light of the sun, certain parts of it would
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: just flash brilliantly. Now, whether that was just.
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: The.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: They seemed to think it was a reflection from the
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: sun on some reflectors that were on... object itself, you know.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: But it flashes brilliantly and it had lights on it. Yellow,
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: blue lights on it that blinked.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: And that object actually came up over the schoolyard?
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: Came up, yeah. But the best observation was when it
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: came out of this little canyon behind. Now I went
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: down in that canyon. I'm disabled right now and I'm
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: on crutches and I couldn't really get around very good
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: down there. And we covered about maybe one-fourth of the
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: canyon the next two days trying to see if we
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: could see anything down there, you know, but it's so
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: bushy and hard to get around there. I really couldn't
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: go over it right. It'd take an able-bodied, you know,
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: two or three able-bodied men could go over that in
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: an hour.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Right, right.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: Because it's just a small thing, just a little thing.
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Did your daughter make any drawings or sketches? Yeah, she
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: did make me.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: A little drawing, yeah. I asked her to draw me
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: and we had it. I guess she still got it.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: I don't know. It wasn't around here.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: What was her first name?
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: Her first name is.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Okay. And how many witnesses or kids do you think
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: there were?
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: I think there were at least 15 kids.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: And the teacher?
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: And the teacher, I know her name, but I've forgotten
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: her right now.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: Anyway. But, you know, I called the San Diego paper.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: They had no interest in it at all. I called
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: Channel 8, which is the local TV, and they had
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: no interest in it at all. I was disappointed. I
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: thought society was more sophisticated at this time on that
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: sort of thing.
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: But they're hung up.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: On their old fears, I guess. They always did, you know,
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: something you don't understand.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Forget it. Right. Well, this is very interesting in as
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: much as we had a somewhat similar incident happen near Downey.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: on the 1st, Monday, or the 2nd, Monday the 2nd
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: of May.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Up and down, yeah.
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: Right in the heart of the city.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: The object came down right over the schoolyard, right in
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: the middle of recess.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: It did. Well, the same thing happened here, yeah.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: And how was that described?
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Just as a very bright silver object. They couldn't make
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: out any real structural parts in the object.
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: Huh?
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: It was a brilliant light, and... Of course, in this
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: particular case, the students, they got quite panic-stricken and ran
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: into the school, and by the time they looked back
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: out again, the thing had gone.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: What day was that? Was that anywhere near the Friday that.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: It was May 2nd, Monday, May 2nd.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: So that was in the same week, wasn't it? Right, right. Gee,
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: that's interesting. But they didn't have the same situation there
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: where the teacher told the kids not to, or maybe they.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Were older kids. Not to my knowledge. I talked to
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: one of the girls' fathers, and he had.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Pretty well quizzed his daughter regarding the incident, and he
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: was going to get in contact with other parents whose
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: children were involved and see if they couldn't correlate all
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: the information.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: Were they older? What grade?
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Grade school.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: Elementary, huh?
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is elementary, too. Up to sixth grade, I guess.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: In fact, I think his daughter was about seven and
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: a half.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Something like that.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: And how many people saw it? How many children saw it?
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: I don't remember the group, but it was a pretty
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: large group of kids.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Gee, it was only five days away, huh? They saw
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: it on Monday, and then this thing was seen again
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: on that same Friday. What in the world would it
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: be doing down in that canyon for an hour? Do
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: you have any ideas?
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Well, of course, going down into canyons like that is
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: quite common for these vehicles, but what is really important
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: is the fact that the incident occurred during daylight hours,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: which is very rare.
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: Oh, was the other one in the evening or something?
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: No, that was 11 o'clock in the morning.
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: Oh, me neither.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Huh.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: Somehow or other, they must have had some business there.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: They were collecting soil samples.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: So they were doing something to that or getting out
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: of the way of radar.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: We're getting out of way radar, huh? And down there,
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: my daughter remembers that it was exactly an hour because
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: she saw it and she remembered they come out for
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: recess at 9.30 again. And then when they come up
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: out of the canyon. She happened to see it. The
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: kids all stood there with their mouth hanging open.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Okay, if we got a questionnaire off to you, could
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: you kind of work with your daughter to fill that in?
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd like to.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Also, if we could get some investigators in there, would
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: you kind of operate as the hub to get them started?
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: I would be glad to cooperate with anybody. It just
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: infuriates me that they're going to just, you know, ignore
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: the whole thing.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Where did your son finally get our number?
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: I gave it to him.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, I see.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: I called the sheriff's department and they gave me your number.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Great.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: But since I don't have so much, I don't have
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: very much money right now, I didn't call because I
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: found out I was out of town. I just couldn't
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: afford it. He has more money. He said, give me
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: a number, I'll call it. So he did. That's how
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: that happened. But if you want to send anybody around,
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: I'd be glad to cooperate and show them where it
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: is in the canyon.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Was there any estimated distance between the witnesses and the object?
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: I estimate that. I don't think it could have been
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: over 100 foot. They were right on top of the thing,
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: staring right into it. You know, the average flying, as
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: you know, the average flying UFO sighting is, we saw
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: two objects at approximately 5,000 feet going northwest or something.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: Well, they're valueless. This was a wonderful sighting. The ground level,
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: and they're going to, Just ignore it. I can't believe it.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Well, we'll get somebody in there to dig that out.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: I wish you would. I don't have the time or
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: I can't do it because I'm disabled, but I'll cooperate.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: I'd love to cooperate with you.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Well, we sure appreciate that very much.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: And thank you again for talking to me.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: Is this the hub where UFO information is sent in?
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Well, it's a national center, but we're a private scientific
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: organization working on this subject.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: Oh, is that right? Right.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: It's not in any way associated with the government.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: Oh, so it's all by public, I mean... It's a
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: self-funded organization. Self-funded organization.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: Good. I'm glad to hear it. Well, send somebody around.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: We'll dig that story out.
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: I'd like to do that.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Thank you very much.
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: You bet.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Bye.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: Bye-bye.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: That's the second case. I think you'll agree it's truly
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: fascinating to hear from the witnesses' fathers themselves.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: And.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: I love these cases because I think these are typical
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: of schoolyard UFO encounters. I think the reason there are
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: so many of these cases is that there is an agenda.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: The ETs are targeting schools on purpose, intentionally showing themselves
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: to the youngest of our children. I do have cases
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: involving junior high school students, high school students, even college.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: But as I mentioned earlier, Over half involve elementary age students.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: And I think that's intentional. I think the ETs are
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: showing themselves to children in an effort to sort of
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: announce their presence, get us used to their presence. And
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: the reason I think they're doing that is because one
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: day we will have open official contact. I think we're
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: moving towards that, and it could happen very soon. Anyway,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: these are fascinating cases. I covered them both and nearly
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: 100 more in my book, Schoolyard UFO Encounters. This is
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: a phenomena that has been occurring since at least 1950.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: I have one case earlier than that. But it's still
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: going on today. I'm quite confident there will be more cases.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: I'm still hearing of new ones. And these are a
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: really interesting type of encounter. that really deserve to be
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: well known. and that's why I wanted to do this
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: video this episode I hope you've enjoyed it I want
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: to thank you once again for watching I really appreciate
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: it and until next time keep asking questions keep searching
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: for answers and most importantly keep having fun