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- 0:17Speaker 1: One, two, three. We have a quorum assembled. We can
- 0:21Speaker 1: do this thing. It's time for three guys before the game.
- 0:24Speaker 1: We welcome you and everyone. It's time to take a
- 0:28Speaker 1: deep dive into the upcoming football season. All right, it's here,
- 0:33Speaker 1: it's here. So what is the name of this show?
- 0:36Speaker 1: This is WVU Football Over Under twenty twenty five. I
- 0:42Speaker 1: think it says it all been talk WVU football. Brad's
- 0:45Speaker 1: got his annual over unders.
- 0:47Speaker 2: Did we check twenty twenty four? How we did?
- 0:50Speaker 1: I did pretty good? Someone did? Yet at the end
- 0:52Speaker 1: of the last season, one usually confirms not bad. I mean,
- 0:55Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think people in Vegas are gonna
- 0:57Speaker 1: come to us and ask for our wisdom. We weren't
- 1:00Speaker 1: horrifically bad, like most things in life in the middle. Yeah,
- 1:04Speaker 1: most in the middle. So we've got several of those.
- 1:07Speaker 1: We've got textual healing. Got a good question on textual healing,
- 1:12Speaker 1: which allowed me to get into some numbers. Not my numbers,
- 1:18Speaker 1: Jed Drenning's numbers. But Jed gave me the Book of
- 1:22Speaker 1: the Savant sixty three pages of headherding tax code is
- 1:26Speaker 1: what he gave me. So I'll have some of those
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- 2:48Speaker 1: the value beyond number. So Conley CPA, Right, they kind
- 2:52Speaker 1: of take a sabbatical when we don't have games because
- 2:56Speaker 1: Brad's thing is spreads on Stats, and when you don't
- 2:59Speaker 1: have games, we do our summer series, we don't do it.
- 3:02Speaker 1: But now we're into we're into Conley's CPA season and uh,
- 3:07Speaker 1: they're the people that sponsor spreads on Stats and they're
- 3:09Speaker 1: the only accounting firm that we know of. It doesn't
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- 3:21Speaker 2: I mean, I don't again, I don't know why you
- 3:23Speaker 2: need to attack the entire industry. Why as you do that?
- 3:27Speaker 1: Yeah, we talk to those CPAs. They always get nervous,
- 3:29Speaker 1: like we're helping. You know, tax deadlines. Yeah, I know
- 3:31Speaker 1: it comes every year.
- 3:32Speaker 2: You're right, our guys don't they don't, they don't, they
- 3:35Speaker 2: don't flinch. Also, he is right about that.
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- 3:58Speaker 1: h I don't want to whatever.
- 4:02Speaker 2: You can always tell whatever comes next after a pause
- 4:05Speaker 2: like that probably shouldn't be said yet. Exactly, this is
- 4:07Speaker 2: going to be something you should not be speaking of
- 4:11Speaker 2: what you're going to say, but it probably should wait,
- 4:14Speaker 2: which means had a meeting.
- 4:15Speaker 1: Yes here, we came away, came away, Uh, came away
- 4:19Speaker 1: really good. So as the season approaches, I think three
- 4:26Speaker 1: Guys is going to be afforded the opportunity. We're going
- 4:29Speaker 1: to go out and do some public shows. Public shows
- 4:33Speaker 1: here in Morgantown, kind of like it's the first thing
- 4:37Speaker 1: of a football weekend for home games, all right, separate
- 4:41Speaker 1: from the food court, because we're gonna do the food
- 4:43Speaker 1: court Friday Saturdays.
- 4:44Speaker 3: Right, Stop hitting, Stop hitting, your ring on the on
- 4:47Speaker 3: that you're maybe castor you know better than that.
- 4:50Speaker 1: This isn't a broadcast this podcast, and uh so might
- 4:54Speaker 1: do maybe have some live events on Thursdays.
- 4:58Speaker 2: It's not that's not even confirmed. That date is not confirmed.
- 5:03Speaker 2: None of that is confirmed. And I wasn't even in
- 5:05Speaker 2: the meeting that you supposedly had yesterday without being a hobby,
- 5:08Speaker 2: and I know none of that's confirmed.
- 5:10Speaker 1: May involve food, oh here, may involve a portion of
- 5:15Speaker 1: may involve a portion of a chicken's anatomy. It's tasted
- 5:18Speaker 1: to eat whe fried with sauces.
- 5:20Speaker 2: Homeless.
- 5:21Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying.
- 5:21Speaker 2: Homeless.
- 5:22Speaker 3: Dave was just in here and we were having a
- 5:24Speaker 3: general conversation about it.
- 5:26Speaker 2: But he said, don't over promise, said exactly what he said.
- 5:32Speaker 2: We're a long way from home on that. Why don't
- 5:34Speaker 2: you talk about the food court that is.
- 5:35Speaker 1: More confirmed coming up Fridays and Saturdays all season long.
- 5:39Speaker 1: Looking forward to that.
- 5:40Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 5:41Speaker 1: And someone reached out last week on the text line
- 5:44Speaker 1: and said, my daughter, no, it didn't say this. They said, initially,
- 5:47Speaker 1: do you guys have any interest in live music for
- 5:51Speaker 1: your food court? Musician transferred, I know he got a
- 5:55Speaker 1: big an il dealt Northwestern playing Poka music in Evanston, Illinois.
- 6:02Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, it's going to be hard to replace.
- 6:04Speaker 3: How he's dead was really good.
- 6:06Speaker 1: So this person asks, it was a dad of a singer.
- 6:11Speaker 1: You guys interested in any of that? So you know
- 6:12Speaker 1: what normally what's that? What's that normally mean? It normally
- 6:15Speaker 1: means someone that's really not good, right, They're they're trying
- 6:18Speaker 1: to push him on you. That's your first thing. And
- 6:20Speaker 1: I said, he didn't say it was his son, didn't
- 6:23Speaker 1: say his daughter, Like are you interested? I said, if
- 6:25Speaker 1: you're Paul McCartney and you're offering to play, yes, that's
- 6:29Speaker 1: a pretty high bar. So he wasn't Paul McCartney. But
- 6:33Speaker 1: he sent me a link and I went played it
- 6:36Speaker 1: and I sent it to homeless Dave immediately wow, one
- 6:43Speaker 1: word wow.
- 6:45Speaker 2: So he was immediately dismissive immediately, and it was good.
- 6:49Speaker 1: It was being funny. That was being funny, just joke.
- 6:51Speaker 2: So did did you know Dave's doing? Did you act
- 6:54Speaker 2: unilaterally and go yeah?
- 6:56Speaker 1: We both said, like holy heck.
- 6:58Speaker 2: That's probably also not confirmed, right, So it's nothing he
- 7:01Speaker 2: said is confirmed except the food court.
- 7:03Speaker 3: We will be there for the food court. Other than that,
- 7:06Speaker 3: don't take anything literally.
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- 7:46Speaker 3: Do you when you're doing play by play and it's
- 7:49Speaker 3: third and six or third and five, do you say
- 7:51Speaker 3: ahead of the snap and you know this is going
- 7:53Speaker 3: to be a pass?
- 7:55Speaker 2: Well, no more more? Maybe more to the pluytment? Does
- 7:59Speaker 2: he say first down? West Virginia wore the step.
- 8:05Speaker 1: Here's the answer to your question. When I'm I'm.
- 8:09Speaker 2: Doing so, why is he out in front of this stuff?
- 8:10Speaker 2: Because he just can't help himself.
- 8:12Speaker 1: Because here's the answer to your question in that particular
- 8:16Speaker 1: when I'm in that particular space doing that. Yeah, that's
- 8:19Speaker 1: the other time I don't fool the route. Seriously, that's
- 8:22Speaker 1: the only time I don't full I think we can
- 8:25Speaker 1: have a joke, but when I'm in there, it's just
- 8:26Speaker 1: like jokes.
- 8:28Speaker 2: So you're saying, this is a.
- 8:29Speaker 1: Big joke to you, big clown show.
- 8:31Speaker 3: Absolutely, so all of us, all we're doing is just
- 8:33Speaker 3: a big joke to you.
- 8:34Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys entertain me, make me gig like a home.
- 8:36Speaker 1: It's a good day. Yeah, all right, So let's jump
- 8:40Speaker 1: on in a lot of stuff going on last week.
- 8:43Speaker 1: We uh oh, by the way, Monday Show coming up. Historic.
- 8:48Speaker 2: It is history. You're going to speaking of getting out
- 8:50Speaker 2: in front of things. Godd you handle it.
- 8:51Speaker 1: Take care of our guy Travis Jones technically figured it out.
- 8:57Speaker 1: What Oh yeah, okay, Okay, Now, I was counting the microphones.
- 9:01Speaker 1: I was going like, I was going like one, two,
- 9:03Speaker 1: and three, and that one was down there. I'm going like,
- 9:05Speaker 1: how the heck we gonna I thought, we need five
- 9:07Speaker 1: mics on on Monday. We're gonna have five microphones on Monday.
- 9:11Speaker 3: Okay, first time ever, because five guys, five guys before
- 9:15Speaker 3: the game.
- 9:15Speaker 1: We're gonna be in studio Monday with new WV president
- 9:19Speaker 1: Michael Benson and Director of Athletics vice president Ren Baker.
- 9:24Speaker 1: They're all going to be in here, so's it's literally
- 9:26Speaker 1: gonna be full, and we're gonna have a little separate microphone.
- 9:28Speaker 1: We probably put Rent right there. We'll see, he's gonna
- 9:30Speaker 1: have his own little mic stand.
- 9:31Speaker 2: Awesome, Yeah, big show.
- 9:34Speaker 1: You know you have four pots there and need another pot.
- 9:36Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to get a fifth pot over there.
- 9:38Speaker 1: We'll figure it out. We'll figure it out.
- 9:40Speaker 3: Just do it now on the air. Just figure it
- 9:41Speaker 3: out now.
- 9:42Speaker 1: Why don't you know I thought getting an extra mic
- 9:44Speaker 1: would be better than doing this.
- 9:46Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I hate that. Yes, yeah, don't do that.
- 9:49Speaker 1: All right, let's jump in man football. Rain and Morgantown today,
- 9:52Speaker 1: first time that precipitation has impacted the Mountaineer football preparation.
- 9:56Speaker 1: I didn't go over today, but I'm assuming they had
- 9:59Speaker 1: to go inside the hand not because of the rain,
- 10:01Speaker 1: but it was lightning, mean, so you gotta be careful.
- 10:04Speaker 1: So I'm sure they went inside. And uh, we needed
- 10:06Speaker 1: the rain though horribly. Saturday, big scrimmage that'll be the second.
- 10:11Speaker 2: What old guys stuff, I got to check the rain. Yeah,
- 10:17Speaker 2: but we needed that rain.
- 10:20Speaker 1: We did. Anyway, let's jump in.
- 10:23Speaker 2: If we have any listeners left by now, let's jump
- 10:25Speaker 2: into some football.
- 10:26Speaker 1: Yes, how did you put the the over runders together?
- 10:31Speaker 2: Was to offense, one defense? Okay, two offensive numbers, one
- 10:36Speaker 2: defensive number, heavy on the rushing side of the offense,
- 10:39Speaker 2: because that's going to be a key to this, and
- 10:41Speaker 2: then we'll come back with some others if we decided
- 10:43Speaker 2: to do it a second episode. I've got some others
- 10:45Speaker 2: stored up. But I've got three two offensive both rushing base,
- 10:49Speaker 2: and I've got a defensive one.
- 10:51Speaker 1: Okay, how would you like to begin?
- 10:53Speaker 2: We can jump right into them. Let's go. I mean,
- 10:56Speaker 2: I'm fine, we are.
- 10:58Speaker 1: I'll just do it. I'll just do a little bit
- 10:59Speaker 1: of an aside. Okay, So I spoke with I spoke
- 11:04Speaker 1: with the head football coach over at the college yesterday,
- 11:07Speaker 1: and for all of you that are watching his daily
- 11:10Speaker 1: UH press conferences, you can tell that with the exception
- 11:15Speaker 1: of day two where he kind of questioned, you know,
- 11:18Speaker 1: effort and things like that, which was totally expected. He
- 11:21Speaker 1: shot it one day early, like other than that, Other
- 11:26Speaker 1: than that, he has been like been really comfortable. So
- 11:31Speaker 1: I asked him that I was doing a thing, uh
- 11:34Speaker 1: afterward for a TV show for this weekend, and I said, like,
- 11:40Speaker 1: you seem like totally comfortable. You seem totally at piece here,
- 11:43Speaker 1: you seem like everything. He goes like, yeah, I'm good
- 11:47Speaker 1: like you, And I like, we never thought that at
- 11:51Speaker 1: this point that he would say, I've got five quarterbacks
- 11:56Speaker 1: that I can win with. And that's what he said,
- 11:58Speaker 1: I got five quarterbacks that I can went with now,
- 12:00Speaker 1: all in different stages of development. But I think what
- 12:03Speaker 1: that's saying is there's no one in the room right
- 12:06Speaker 1: now that won't eventually be able to help. And again
- 12:10Speaker 1: he reiterates he has no qualms whatsoever of playing multiple
- 12:14Speaker 1: quarterbacks like some coaches, you don't have if you don't
- 12:18Speaker 1: have if you play too you don't have wan da
- 12:20Speaker 1: da da Like He's like, that doesn't fit my that
- 12:23Speaker 1: doesn't fit my mindset. All I want to do is win.
- 12:25Speaker 1: So that's kind of interesting. We talked about it earlier.
- 12:29Speaker 1: He gave a little bit of surprising love to slot receivers.
- 12:35Speaker 1: Feels he's got some gentlemen.
- 12:36Speaker 2: There, said the said the words might be the best
- 12:38Speaker 2: group of slot receivers he's ever had.
- 12:40Speaker 1: He did say that where's our Where's Rich gone?
- 12:43Speaker 2: What's happened to Rich?
- 12:45Speaker 1: Well, again, he was in that oasis of the desert
- 12:48Speaker 1: walk for seventeen years. Like I mean, I think now
- 12:51Speaker 1: it's not that he doesn't isn't as intense as he was,
- 12:54Speaker 1: But I think he now has a better perspective of
- 12:57Speaker 1: what's needed and he looks at things probably and goes like, Okay,
- 13:00Speaker 1: this will work. I've played he played at every level, right,
- 13:03Speaker 1: He's played it every played in a Big ten, played
- 13:05Speaker 1: in the Pac twelve, He's been everywhere. He knows what
- 13:08Speaker 1: you need to have, and I think he's going like, okay,
- 13:10Speaker 1: if this continues. Now. Again, all of this is under
- 13:13Speaker 1: the preface that it's still work in progress. Right, there's
- 13:16Speaker 1: still seventeen days before they play, and then after seventeen days,
- 13:20Speaker 1: you're just gonna have to get better, get better. I
- 13:22Speaker 1: think what he's saying is there's some pieces here that
- 13:25Speaker 1: as we progress and get better, we're gonna have a chance.
- 13:29Speaker 2: It's also evolved quite a bit too, and you can
- 13:31Speaker 2: see this in some of the jack state numbers. If
- 13:33Speaker 2: you go back in there's he seems extremely comfortable, which
- 13:36Speaker 2: I think is leading to the comfort now of multiple
- 13:39Speaker 2: guys that positions playing right. That's always been if there's
- 13:42Speaker 2: been a couple running backs he can play, they're gonna
- 13:44Speaker 2: pay a couple running backs. As you said, if he's
- 13:46Speaker 2: got three quarterbacks that can help you, there's gonna be
- 13:47Speaker 2: three quarterbacks, can play, multiple slot receivers, multiple outside receivers,
- 13:52Speaker 2: just okay, the next man up or who's next is
- 13:55Speaker 2: always one of those coach speak things. I just get
- 13:58Speaker 2: the sense with him he lives that. He really lives that.
- 14:01Speaker 2: And we've talked about that. With running backs. You look
- 14:03Speaker 2: at a bunch of them and physically, body type wise,
- 14:05Speaker 2: they look very similar. So I think that's part of
- 14:08Speaker 2: the comfort level. Is like, Okay, if I don't have
- 14:10Speaker 2: any bona fide Heisman Trophy candidates this year, like a
- 14:13Speaker 2: Pat White and Steve Slaton, like everybody's gonna get in there,
- 14:15Speaker 2: we're gonna prize.
- 14:17Speaker 1: And I think that all changed because of the transfer
- 14:19Speaker 1: acquisitions they made after spring. I don't think they're saying
- 14:22Speaker 1: what they're saying now had they not picked up some
- 14:25Speaker 1: really good pieces that either will be prominent players. Or
- 14:29Speaker 1: will be backup players this season I think coming out
- 14:33Speaker 1: of spring. I mean we talked to him coming out
- 14:34Speaker 1: of spring, several different people on the staff and they
- 14:36Speaker 1: were like, oh, they're not doing that anymore. Go like, okay,
- 14:41Speaker 1: we got solid, we got internal competition at all positions,
- 14:44Speaker 1: will be okay.
- 14:45Speaker 2: Offensively, the offensive line still continues to be the biggest question.
- 14:49Speaker 2: It's not even so much who it's going to be
- 14:51Speaker 2: in your starting line, it's just simply how good is
- 14:54Speaker 2: their good? Is it below average? Is it average? Is
- 14:58Speaker 2: it above average? And wear on that slide scale does
- 15:00Speaker 2: it get He was interesting the other day talking about
- 15:03Speaker 2: those receivers and how good they've been, and we mentioned
- 15:06Speaker 2: this on here a couple of times ago about this
- 15:09Speaker 2: offense may have to take a different look based on
- 15:11Speaker 2: what he feels they do well. Right, if they have
- 15:13Speaker 2: an offensive line that's better pass blocking than run blocking,
- 15:16Speaker 2: or if the quick pass game feels like something he
- 15:18Speaker 2: can have more success with with those slot guys, then
- 15:21Speaker 2: you might throw it a little bit more. And he
- 15:23Speaker 2: came out and said that said, we're installing more pass
- 15:26Speaker 2: plays than I thought we might at this point. So
- 15:29Speaker 2: that's also part of the intriguing part of how this
- 15:31Speaker 2: is going to look running passing, and well, we may
- 15:33Speaker 2: have to do some over unders on the passing in
- 15:35Speaker 2: the next episode.
- 15:36Speaker 1: He's the ultimate. I don't care how we get it
- 15:38Speaker 1: done right. So he's the guy again. I keep bringing
- 15:40Speaker 1: us up. He's a guy Glenville that threw it so much.
- 15:42Speaker 1: He had the all time leading receiver in the history
- 15:44Speaker 1: of college football? Is it? West Virginia ran at seventy
- 15:46Speaker 1: percent of the times, had the all time leading rusher
- 15:48Speaker 1: from a quarterback posers, It doesn't matter to him, just like,
- 15:51Speaker 1: show what we can do and then we're just going
- 15:52Speaker 1: to We're going to do it and do it and
- 15:54Speaker 1: do it and do it.
- 15:55Speaker 2: He's and he's talked about that's our hob. He's talked
- 15:57Speaker 2: about that in these press conferences that he just says
- 16:00Speaker 2: he's going through and weeding out some plays. And if
- 16:02Speaker 2: that means there forty plays have to go away because
- 16:04Speaker 2: you can't execute him, well, then so be it. If
- 16:07Speaker 2: he has ten that he can execute, then let's run
- 16:09Speaker 2: the ten. And as he used his words, he said, next,
- 16:12Speaker 2: what's next? What's the next play?
- 16:13Speaker 3: We'll run The addendum to that, I think, and this
- 16:16Speaker 3: gets into some stats I'd like to talk about here
- 16:18Speaker 3: later on, is that when he's had success, he has
- 16:23Speaker 3: had a quarterback that is an efficient and effective runner
- 16:27Speaker 3: almost almost to a tee. There's only I could only
- 16:33Speaker 3: find one exception in his career. I'm not talking about Glenville,
- 16:36Speaker 3: but one exception in his career.
- 16:37Speaker 1: Because I was going to come at you with scotti otis.
- 16:39Speaker 2: No, I'm not post post Glenville, starting with West Virginia
- 16:43Speaker 2: on yes, yes, only because at Clemson two lane he
- 16:46Speaker 2: had guys that could throw it and obviously Glennviley could
- 16:48Speaker 2: throw it so in his offensive coordinator in Glenville days.
- 16:51Speaker 2: But you're saying from West Virginia.
- 16:53Speaker 1: Jawn King, whatdy, Danzler, Rashid Marshall, Pat White, Denard Robinson,
- 16:58Speaker 1: Khalil Ta right. And then last year he had the
- 17:01Speaker 1: dude Tyler Tyler huff huff.
- 17:03Speaker 2: Yeah, he had dudes. I have some stats for that.
- 17:05Speaker 2: You just used all my stats. But that's okay.
- 17:07Speaker 1: Now go ahead give it to give it a rick.
- 17:08Speaker 3: No, no, just I'll do it later.
- 17:09Speaker 2: Let's do that.
- 17:09Speaker 3: Let's get the Brad's thing.
- 17:10Speaker 2: We'll keep going to finish your thought. Okay, Well, like.
- 17:15Speaker 3: When he was at West Virginia two thousand and five,
- 17:16Speaker 3: two thousand and six, two thousand and seven. Pat White
- 17:19Speaker 3: rushed for thirty five hundred yards over three seasons and
- 17:21Speaker 3: thirty nine touchdowns.
- 17:22Speaker 2: Okay had a running quarterback.
- 17:24Speaker 3: His best season in three seasons at Michigan was twenty ten,
- 17:27Speaker 3: seven and six. Denard Robinson rushed for seventeen hundred yards
- 17:30Speaker 3: and fourteen touchdowns twenty seventeen, one of his better seasons,
- 17:35Speaker 3: not his best. One of his better seasons at Arizona,
- 17:38Speaker 3: klill Tate rushed for fourteen hundred yards and twelve touchdowns
- 17:41Speaker 3: Jack State twenty twenty three. They were nine and four.
- 17:44Speaker 3: He had two quarterbacks, Zion Web and Logan Smothers. They
- 17:47Speaker 3: rushed for collectively for one thousand yards and like fifteen
- 17:51Speaker 3: touchdowns fourteen I think, but go ahead, well yeah, fourteen,
- 17:54Speaker 3: I'm sorry, thank you. And then twenty twenty diet end
- 17:56Speaker 3: on my stature. That's how I knew that without looking
- 17:57Speaker 3: on my Okay, and then Tyler Huff was a running quarterback.
- 17:59Speaker 3: Why you're rushed for thirteen hundred yards. The one exception
- 18:04Speaker 3: was that stood out to me was when Anu Solomon
- 18:08Speaker 3: was at Arizona, who was a passing guy had great
- 18:11Speaker 3: success passing passed for thirty eight hundred yards and when
- 18:17Speaker 3: they went ten and four and twenty fourteen only ran
- 18:19Speaker 3: for two ninety one. But he was a very effective pastor.
- 18:21Speaker 3: So again this is just thumbnail stuff, but generally speaking,
- 18:26Speaker 3: when Rich Rodriguez has had success, it's because he's had
- 18:29Speaker 3: a quarterback that ran for one thousand yards or more.
- 18:33Speaker 1: Which really sets the table nicely for el senators going
- 18:37Speaker 1: to come back.
- 18:38Speaker 2: An elite quarterback that has an elite skill has led
- 18:42Speaker 2: to success for a head coach. That's our premise.
- 18:47Speaker 3: Our premise is that if Rich Rodriguez is going to
- 18:51Speaker 3: have success at West Virginia, he's going to have a
- 18:53Speaker 3: quarterback that rushes for one thousand yards or more.
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- 20:19Speaker 1: under we got three of them.
- 20:19Speaker 2: Let's go all right, let's meander through this. And you're
- 20:22Speaker 2: right hot that that was a good lead into what
- 20:24Speaker 2: our first one is. Because you're right, and we've said this.
- 20:27Speaker 2: Everybody listening knows this. When Rich has a quarterback that
- 20:30Speaker 2: can run it. There's success that usually follows that number one.
- 20:34Speaker 2: But you also hit on something in there about the
- 20:37Speaker 2: year at Jack State, he had two guys that can
- 20:39Speaker 2: do it. So it's it's morphed a little bit. It
- 20:41Speaker 2: doesn't have to just be one guy at that position.
- 20:44Speaker 2: I think that's what's most applicable to this year for
- 20:47Speaker 2: West Virginia. But let's start here. We're gonna pick Nico first.
- 20:50Speaker 2: We're gonna go Nico markiel over under four and a
- 20:55Speaker 2: half rushing touchdowns in twenty twenty five, Nico marky Over
- 21:01Speaker 2: under four and a half rushing touchdowns in twenty twenty five.
- 21:04Speaker 2: And let me preface it by say, you guys know,
- 21:07Speaker 2: I love this episode every year. This might be my
- 21:10Speaker 2: favorite year because you talk about some variables that go
- 21:12Speaker 2: into this bad Boy. There are some variables. So let's
- 21:15Speaker 2: start with some numbers first to back this up. Nico
- 21:18Speaker 2: rushing touchdowns by year zero in twenty twenty two, one
- 21:22Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three, two in twenty twenty four. We're
- 21:26Speaker 2: setting the number at four and a half, so happy
- 21:30Speaker 2: A lot of questions come in about Nico, does he start,
- 21:33Speaker 2: how much does he play? How many snaps does he get?
- 21:35Speaker 2: How many carries does he get? Is he the only
- 21:37Speaker 2: guy getting carries? Are there three quarterbacks getting carries? Are
- 21:41Speaker 2: there four? Is there one? Right? So tons of variables
- 21:44Speaker 2: outside of just him. Here's some other numbers. In the
- 21:46Speaker 2: last twenty four seasons, a West Virginia quarterback has rushed
- 21:51Speaker 2: for four or more touchdowns in a season twelve times the.
- 21:55Speaker 1: Last twenty four seasons, last twenty.
- 21:57Speaker 2: Four seasons that began with Rich's first year here twenty
- 22:00Speaker 2: four four. I'm sorry, twelve times in twenty four seasons,
- 22:04Speaker 2: a quarterback has gone for four or more touchdowns. Skyler
- 22:07Speaker 2: did it twice, Rashid did it three times, Garrett did
- 22:10Speaker 2: it three times, and Pat White did it four. A
- 22:15Speaker 2: quarterback rushing for four or more touchdowns in a season
- 22:18Speaker 2: happened in six of Rich's seven years at WVUE. I
- 22:23Speaker 2: think that's an important one that kind of tucked that.
- 22:25Speaker 2: If you're looking at these numbers and rating them on
- 22:27Speaker 2: what numbers may have some carryover.
- 22:31Speaker 1: Say that one again, six.
- 22:32Speaker 2: Of Rich's seven years at WVU. The first time a
- 22:35Speaker 2: quarterback went for four or more rushing touchdowns. The one
- 22:39Speaker 2: season it didn't happen was year one Brad Lewis Rashid
- 22:44Speaker 2: had three fell just short at but Rashid almost certainly
- 22:48Speaker 2: would have gone over that at barring injury. Yeah right, yeah.
- 22:52Speaker 1: So, by the way, I'm gonna compliment you on putting
- 22:55Speaker 1: it at four and a half. I thought you were
- 22:56Speaker 1: gonna come. I figured that question out. I knew that
- 22:58Speaker 1: was coming, but I figured go five and a half,
- 23:00Speaker 1: which would have made it really hard.
- 23:02Speaker 2: I think you think four and a half's easy, No,
- 23:04Speaker 2: I think no.
- 23:05Speaker 1: I think four and a half is more challenging than half.
- 23:07Speaker 1: Five and a half you go under.
- 23:08Speaker 2: Well, Kertchival gave us five and a half on the
- 23:10Speaker 2: last episode, and I thought that might be a good
- 23:12Speaker 2: number that I got. I thought, well, let's let's tick
- 23:14Speaker 2: it down a little.
- 23:16Speaker 1: Four and a half is a really well placed number,
- 23:18Speaker 1: thank you.
- 23:19Speaker 2: So Rich's first year at West Virginia there were sixteen
- 23:22Speaker 2: total rushing touchdowns. Quarterbacks had four of those, so twenty
- 23:25Speaker 2: five percent. But I also think we all agree this
- 23:29Speaker 2: offense has matured and evolved a lot since that first
- 23:32Speaker 2: year twenty four seasons ago. Jack State quarterbacks in the
- 23:37Speaker 2: last three seasons averaged fifteen point three rushing touchdowns per year.
- 23:43Speaker 2: The entire quarterback room averaged fifteen touchdowns rushing per.
- 23:47Speaker 1: Year quarterbacks and each of his three years averaged fifteen.
- 23:53Speaker 1: There were scoring one touch There was going over a
- 23:54Speaker 1: touchdown per game at.
- 23:55Speaker 2: Forty six total rushing touchdowns from.
- 23:57Speaker 1: The quarterback hotly cow. So your basic trying to bait
- 24:00Speaker 1: us into saying over on this.
- 24:03Speaker 2: He loves running that cornerback down by a goal line.
- 24:05Speaker 1: So here's where I'm going on my four and a
- 24:08Speaker 1: half t don't need anything else. No, I'm good.
- 24:10Speaker 2: You did a really good That's both of the numbers.
- 24:12Speaker 1: I got what.
- 24:13Speaker 2: He's had enough context for the excellent context.
- 24:16Speaker 1: Now, I mean there's probably people now that we've done
- 24:19Speaker 1: this enough years that are going to take this down
- 24:21Speaker 1: and they were going to really make us remember what
- 24:24Speaker 1: we said. So I'm going to go for Nico. I'm
- 24:28Speaker 1: going to go over and I won't be surprised if
- 24:32Speaker 1: he gets seventy five percent of those touchdowns. What of
- 24:40Speaker 1: the quarterback touchdown of the quarterback I think he'll score well,
- 24:43Speaker 1: I think six, I'll go sixty, sixty to seventy percent
- 24:47Speaker 1: of his touchdowns will come in the month of September
- 24:50Speaker 1: running it. And then I think it'll get harder as
- 24:52Speaker 1: a season goes on. I'm going over. I see him
- 24:53Speaker 1: going in like two or three. Robert Morris, Ohio Universe.
- 24:57Speaker 2: So you think a lot of I think what you're saying.
- 24:58Speaker 1: He builds a bunch of equity and then so much like.
- 25:01Speaker 2: If you're handicapping the wind total for the Mountaineers and
- 25:03Speaker 2: you look like to see him start three and oh
- 25:05Speaker 2: you lock up some wins early. You think Nico locks
- 25:07Speaker 2: up some early rushing touchdowns. Okay, yeah I do.
- 25:11Speaker 1: I'm going over on Nico.
- 25:14Speaker 2: Hoppy.
- 25:15Speaker 3: I'm going over, and I would go over at five
- 25:17Speaker 3: and a half. I would go over at five and
- 25:20Speaker 3: a half because Rich likes to run the quarterback. Rich
- 25:23Speaker 3: will run the quarterback. You get down inside the five,
- 25:26Speaker 3: you got a guy who's six two two thirty five.
- 25:28Speaker 2: His name is not CJ. Donelson.
- 25:30Speaker 3: Give him the ball, let him run in the end zone,
- 25:33Speaker 3: give him some options. Hey, the pass isn't there running
- 25:36Speaker 3: the end zone. I would go over four and a half.
- 25:38Speaker 3: I would go over five and a half.
- 25:40Speaker 1: I think Nico's Nico. Like, Nico's a ruder too, Like
- 25:43Speaker 1: I see him, you know what I mean, Like he
- 25:45Speaker 1: will get in there and he'll stick his face in
- 25:47Speaker 1: there and he will like he'll drill just he's a
- 25:50Speaker 1: he's a plug. Bang, I'm coming in baby, one way
- 25:52Speaker 1: or the other.
- 25:52Speaker 2: You know, you both make great points because you have
- 25:55Speaker 2: a bigger quarterback there that could be down near the goal. Ande. Now,
- 25:57Speaker 2: Nico's probably not going to rip off a bunch of
- 25:59Speaker 2: forty seven years runs like Patent zigzag all over the place.
- 26:02Speaker 2: But you get him down inside the five or six,
- 26:04Speaker 2: and you're right. You know, Rich likes to go there.
- 26:06Speaker 2: You don't have a big bruiser like Owen Schmidt right
- 26:09Speaker 2: now to run it in from the full back position.
- 26:11Speaker 2: You do have a superstar running back, though, you do
- 26:14Speaker 2: have a superstar running back back there in j quite.
- 26:18Speaker 1: Yeah, so going we're both going over on that one.
- 26:20Speaker 2: Yeah, you read. I hate it when we all agree.
- 26:23Speaker 2: And you also, as you know, if you play a
- 26:25Speaker 2: lot over unders, you really should side with more unders.
- 26:28Speaker 2: You really should go under more than you go over. Hop. Okay,
- 26:32Speaker 2: four and a half scenes pretty attainable. Yes, like getting
- 26:36Speaker 2: him to five rushing touchdowns based on what I just
- 26:39Speaker 2: gave you, on the context of Rich's history and how
- 26:42Speaker 2: much he likes to run it. The variable there is
- 26:45Speaker 2: how many snaps does Nico get? If Nico was the
- 26:48Speaker 2: straight out, unquestioned starter and was getting ninety percent of
- 26:52Speaker 2: the snaps or all the snaps barring an injury, I
- 26:55Speaker 2: would have had that number much higher. Right, that's still
- 26:58Speaker 2: a little bit of the variable. I hate to do this,
- 27:01Speaker 2: I will. I'll go over though. Yeah, I think I
- 27:04Speaker 2: think that number, even if that quarterback snap position is
- 27:08Speaker 2: split in some form, I think he can still get
- 27:11Speaker 2: to that night. Would you go under if it was
- 27:12Speaker 2: five and a half? No, I might. I might still
- 27:15Speaker 2: be there for the same reason because we've just seen
- 27:19Speaker 2: it in Rich's recent history at jack State with two
- 27:21Speaker 2: different quarterbacks that had seven rushing touchdowns in the season. Right,
- 27:25Speaker 2: that to me kind of his history the first time
- 27:29Speaker 2: here with quarterbacks getting that number pretty easily, and then
- 27:32Speaker 2: recent history with two quarterbacks getting over that number at
- 27:35Speaker 2: jack State tell me that number may be likely for
- 27:39Speaker 2: two quarterbacks in this system. Like that would be another
- 27:41Speaker 2: over under. Will will how many quarterbacks will get more
- 27:45Speaker 2: than four touchdowns this season? Number set at one and
- 27:48Speaker 2: a half? Right, I might take over on that, Yeah,
- 27:51Speaker 2: I would.
- 27:52Speaker 1: I think some of these rushing touchdowns from the quarterback
- 27:54Speaker 1: position will also make you giggle.
- 27:57Speaker 2: What do you mean?
- 27:58Speaker 1: What I mean by that is like Rich does big
- 28:01Speaker 1: play stuff right, and invariably once they make a big play,
- 28:05Speaker 1: they go faster. So it'll be one of those deals
- 28:07Speaker 1: where someone right gets kick out the one and before
- 28:10Speaker 1: you like the exactly the other team, the other team's defense.
- 28:13Speaker 1: I scanled around it and it's like snap.
- 28:14Speaker 2: Poom quicks in touchdown, we go like Nico has one carry,
- 28:20Speaker 2: one yard, one touchdown. Correct, Yeah, and then you're gone.
- 28:22Speaker 1: Okay, I want to see a whole lot of these
- 28:24Speaker 1: come being longer than five, like three four yards, two yards,
- 28:28Speaker 1: three yards. He pops it in there. I see that.
- 28:29Speaker 2: I like that one. Okay's good. I don't like us
- 28:31Speaker 2: all agreeing, but I but I like that one. Let
- 28:34Speaker 2: me say comfortable. I'm comfortable in that one. Going over
- 28:37Speaker 2: I like like the over there.
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- 29:52Speaker 1: All right, what's number two?
- 29:53Speaker 2: Let's let's save the other rushing one for the end.
- 29:55Speaker 2: So we'll go rushing, then we'll go defense. We'll come
- 29:57Speaker 2: back to a rushing number. Let's go defense defense. Now,
- 30:01Speaker 2: this is a little niche in the weeds here and
- 30:05Speaker 2: won't be as easier as fun to track as Niko's
- 30:08Speaker 2: touchdowns or Jehem's rushing yards that we're getting to. But
- 30:10Speaker 2: let's go this. Read Kariko total tackles on the.
- 30:16Speaker 3: Season, assist in total assistance.
- 30:18Speaker 2: Total assist and solo total tackles. Hold on, I'm making
- 30:22Speaker 2: a number.
- 30:22Speaker 1: Adjustment on the fly. Okay, why are you changing it just.
- 30:26Speaker 2: Because I want to just be difficult? Read Karako total
- 30:30Speaker 2: tackles on the season over under eighty four and a half.
- 30:33Speaker 1: Okay, there's a lot of tacks eighty four and.
- 30:35Speaker 2: A half tackles. Again, you're also just playing time, number
- 30:38Speaker 2: of snaps played and that's part of what plays into
- 30:41Speaker 2: this one. So some numbers. Last year for Reid, he
- 30:43Speaker 2: had fifty four total tackles, So this is a jump
- 30:46Speaker 2: of thirty tackles. Fifty four total tackles. He played two
- 30:50Speaker 2: hundred and seventy nine defensive snaps, or two eighty two
- 30:54Speaker 2: if you look at another source. So these defensive snaps
- 30:56Speaker 2: kind of get wonky, but roughly two hundred and eighty snaps.
- 30:59Speaker 2: Here's what Here's what jumped out to me though. I
- 31:01Speaker 2: found this number last year Reid average point one nine
- 31:07Speaker 2: tackles per snap, zero point one nine tackles per snap.
- 31:11Speaker 2: But here's what jumped out about that that number is
- 31:14Speaker 2: slightly higher than Texas texts. Jacob Rodriguez, who's an All American,
- 31:21Speaker 2: is the preseason Big twelve defensive player of the year.
- 31:26Speaker 1: You got this is interesting? Good job by you.
- 31:29Speaker 2: Hold on get more a little bit more, so give
- 31:31Speaker 2: you more context here. If he averages the same number
- 31:35Speaker 2: of tackles per snap, he'll need to get at least
- 31:39Speaker 2: four hundred and fifty snaps played. So again, how what's
- 31:43Speaker 2: that linebacker rotation look like? What does the injury situation
- 31:46Speaker 2: look like? How long is he on the field.
- 31:50Speaker 1: Here's another big piece. How many snaps will the defense see?
- 31:55Speaker 1: The defense was really bad last year, it saw a
- 31:58Speaker 1: ton more snaps in all like leihood, then it we'll
- 32:01Speaker 1: see this year less opportunities.
- 32:04Speaker 2: So to that, last season, West Virginia had ten players
- 32:09Speaker 2: played at least four hundred and fifty snaps. Ten ten players,
- 32:13Speaker 2: ten defensive players. Two of them are linebackers Trotter and Lathan.
- 32:18Speaker 2: Last season at OU, where Zach Alley was a defensive coordinator,
- 32:22Speaker 2: the Sooners had seven players that played four hundred and
- 32:25Speaker 2: fifty snaps. Two were linebackers there as well. So Karrico
- 32:31Speaker 2: is probably going to need to double his snaps, maybe
- 32:33Speaker 2: not double one and a half times as snaps to
- 32:36Speaker 2: get to this number. Read Karaco over or under eighty
- 32:41Speaker 2: four and a half total tackles. I'll go sure, I'm
- 32:45Speaker 2: going to go over and I'll tell you why. And
- 32:49Speaker 2: I looked at bred I think your stature better than mine,
- 32:51Speaker 2: but I looked at different steads. No.
- 32:54Speaker 3: In twenty twenty two, the leading tackler was Lee Pogmom
- 32:59Speaker 3: ninety two. In twenty twenty three, it was a pug
- 33:01Speaker 3: Bug in ninety seven. Last year was Anthony Wilson one
- 33:05Speaker 3: oh two, followed by Josiah Trotter at ninety two. Somebody
- 33:09Speaker 3: has to be the leading tackler. Now, it can be
- 33:11Speaker 3: if you play more people, then maybe those numbers won't
- 33:13Speaker 3: be as high as you alluded to. But and as
- 33:16Speaker 3: you said, read Karako had fifty four. So I took
- 33:19Speaker 3: Wilson's numbers, Pogba's numbers through in Trotterer for the heck
- 33:24Speaker 3: of it, I came out with ninety five point seventy five,
- 33:26Speaker 3: which is high.
- 33:28Speaker 2: But I'm going over.
- 33:29Speaker 3: Somebody's got to be the leading tackler, and the leading
- 33:31Speaker 3: tackler usually has over the last couple of years at
- 33:34Speaker 3: least ninety so I'm going over.
- 33:35Speaker 2: Okay, good, good logic there. It's interesting because I have
- 33:38Speaker 2: a bonus category here. Oh, okay, Kariko will lead West
- 33:41Speaker 2: Virginia in total tackles, Yes or no? I gotta go yes,
- 33:44Speaker 2: since I went, since I went with the over number
- 33:46Speaker 2: under and know okay, So double bonus then goes to you.
- 33:50Speaker 2: If Kariko doesn't lead in tackles, who does you want
- 33:54Speaker 2: to go with Fred Perry? You want to go Chase Wilson.
- 33:56Speaker 1: Chase Wilson and Fred Perry.
- 33:57Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that you said under.
- 34:00Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going under on both. I think Rie Karraco
- 34:03Speaker 1: really is an exceptional football player. I'm thrilled that he's
- 34:07Speaker 1: on this and that he's on this team. He makes
- 34:09Speaker 1: plays all the time, He's always around the ball. Really
- 34:11Speaker 1: like him a ton. I just think you know that
- 34:16Speaker 1: they'll see less snaps overall in all likelihood than they
- 34:19Speaker 1: did a year ago. And I think it'll be close,
- 34:23Speaker 1: but I'm gonna go under. Going to go under. Okay,
- 34:28Speaker 1: just as a FYI, Zach Alley last season defended sixty
- 34:34Speaker 1: four plays per game at Oklahoma and twenty three at
- 34:39Speaker 1: jack State. When he was the DC, they defended seventy
- 34:42Speaker 1: three per game.
- 34:45Speaker 2: That's still pretty average number of plays.
- 34:47Speaker 1: It is it is so to me.
- 34:50Speaker 2: The thing that jumped out there was West Virginia having
- 34:53Speaker 2: two linebackers that went over this last year and Zach
- 34:55Speaker 2: Alley's defense having two linebackers that went over this number. Right,
- 34:58Speaker 2: that's where your tackles likely. I'm from the fact that
- 35:00Speaker 2: Anthony Wilson led Westerding last year. It's part of the problem,
- 35:03Speaker 2: part of why they struggle. Actual so a Chase Wilson's
- 35:08Speaker 2: a potential candidate reads a potential candid game, and there's
- 35:11Speaker 2: gonna be linebackers that have to make tackles here, right.
- 35:16Speaker 2: I don't like going over on these things.
- 35:18Speaker 1: And Ben Cutter is gonna wrap a few people down,
- 35:20Speaker 1: and Cutters going.
- 35:21Speaker 2: To get a few mm hmm. I'm gonna I'm gonna
- 35:26Speaker 2: go under because that's a that's a big jump for
- 35:30Speaker 2: Reid in terms of total number of tackles. And I'm
- 35:33Speaker 2: playing into part of why the unders should be more
- 35:36Speaker 2: popular and these is this is a this is a
- 35:38Speaker 2: tough sport to get through the season unscathed. Yes, and
- 35:41Speaker 2: that number is a pretty big jump that if there's
- 35:43Speaker 2: a game or two where Reed is dinged, it might
- 35:47Speaker 2: be hard to get to that. I'm gonna play the
- 35:50Speaker 2: percentages here a little bit. I think Reid needs to
- 35:52Speaker 2: have a good season for this defense. I think he will.
- 35:56Speaker 2: I'm gonna go slightly under on this. And number was
- 35:59Speaker 2: eighty maybe four and a half, four and a half, okay,
- 36:03Speaker 2: stays healthy, probably gets there, Okay, I'm gonna go two
- 36:07Speaker 2: hunderds in and over, two hundreds in and over. Okay,
- 36:09Speaker 2: I think we can remember this by these No, we won't, Okay.
- 36:12Speaker 1: Oh, I don't have no idea, No, we won't, right, okay,
- 36:15Speaker 1: ready for not we'll like by the time the November comes,
- 36:18Speaker 1: we'll forget. We opened with Robert Morris.
- 36:21Speaker 2: Yeah, I won't have any idea what the questions were
- 36:23Speaker 2: here in a couple of weeks. All right, you want
- 36:25Speaker 2: to go ahead and finish up? Yeah? Number three sure,
- 36:28Speaker 2: number three over under Jaheim Rock, Jaheim White over under
- 36:36Speaker 2: twelve hundred rushing yards this season one thousand, two hundred
- 36:41Speaker 2: rushing yards Jahim over or under. You're not gonna do
- 36:45Speaker 2: some math contacts. Hold on, don't do your math yet
- 36:48Speaker 2: until you get the numbers. Okay, all right? Twenty twenty
- 36:50Speaker 2: three eight hundred and seventy one rushing yards for freshman
- 36:53Speaker 2: Jahem a monster eight yards per carry, seventy yards per game.
- 37:00Speaker 2: Twenty twenty four eight hundred and forty five rushing yards
- 37:03Speaker 2: five point seven yards per carry, which is pretty wild. Guys,
- 37:06Speaker 2: in a year where it was he so burst on
- 37:09Speaker 2: the scene in twenty twenty three, last year didn't feel
- 37:13Speaker 2: that same burst because of course the offense wasn't his
- 37:15Speaker 2: dynamic right, but still almost six yards of carry for
- 37:18Speaker 2: Jaheem surprised me a little bit. If you if you
- 37:21Speaker 2: weren't really looking at that. Just ten times in the
- 37:25Speaker 2: last twenty four seasons has West Virginia had a leading
- 37:30Speaker 2: rusher with less than a thousand yards. So, going back
- 37:34Speaker 2: to what you tried to do right there with Karaco
- 37:36Speaker 2: about somebody's got to make the tackles right. So West
- 37:38Speaker 2: Virginia way more often than not. Fourteen out of twenty
- 37:42Speaker 2: four seasons has had a thousand yard rusher. Eight times
- 37:49Speaker 2: in the last twenty four seasons, has West Virginia had
- 37:52Speaker 2: a rusher go over twelve hundred yards in five of
- 37:57Speaker 2: seven seasons under Ritch. The first WVU had a rusher
- 38:03Speaker 2: player that rushed for over twelve hundred yards. One of
- 38:07Speaker 2: those misses was in two thousand and five and Steve
- 38:10Speaker 2: was only seventy two yards shy of hitting that number.
- 38:14Speaker 2: So rich the first time had those numbers. Year one,
- 38:18Speaker 2: Avon right, with not a lot of other weapons.
- 38:21Speaker 1: That's what I was going to ask you, what did
- 38:23Speaker 1: he finish with?
- 38:23Speaker 2: I was just not a lot of weapons for our guy, Avon?
- 38:27Speaker 2: He went for one two and ninety eight as a workhorse.
- 38:31Speaker 2: Did he really nearly thirteen hundred yards rushing with not
- 38:36Speaker 2: a prolific running quarterback? So that and that's kind of
- 38:41Speaker 2: is that maybe more similar to what you see this year.
- 38:44Speaker 2: A pretty defined one guy backfield right now and no
- 38:49Speaker 2: running quarterback that is probably going to mass a thousand yards.
- 38:55Speaker 1: You're doing a heck of a job trying to beat us.
- 38:57Speaker 2: For me, is the average in Riches seven seasons here
- 39:01Speaker 2: the first time one three hundred and seventy yards for
- 39:05Speaker 2: your leading rusher. Again skewed because you had a couple
- 39:09Speaker 2: of the all time greats.
- 39:10Speaker 1: And throw in here you have one WVU career start
- 39:17Speaker 1: on the offensive line that was it's land and living
- 39:20Speaker 1: inging name last year against UCF. That's the only Now
- 39:23Speaker 1: there's guys that will be on the line that have
- 39:25Speaker 1: started football games right in other places, but like as
- 39:29Speaker 1: far as your West Virginia starts, so that throws a
- 39:32Speaker 1: whole another piece into it. This is a this is
- 39:35Speaker 1: an incredibly challenging question.
- 39:38Speaker 2: I thought this was the most challenging of all of them.
- 39:41Speaker 2: I think. Let me give you a couple more real
- 39:42Speaker 2: quick Jack State twenty twenty four. Hoppy alluded to this
- 39:45Speaker 2: a little bit. You had two players that went for
- 39:47Speaker 2: more than this number over this number. Running back Trey
- 39:50Speaker 2: Stewart went for sixteen sixty two. Tyler Huff, the aforementioned
- 39:54Speaker 2: Tyler Huff went for fourteen to fifty two on the ground.
- 39:56Speaker 2: Some big numbers there. Twenty twenty three, no single play
- 40:00Speaker 2: went for one thousand, but you had a running back
- 40:02Speaker 2: go for nearly nine hundred and quarterback Zion Web went
- 40:05Speaker 2: for seven to fifty four. That season, Rich had some
- 40:09Speaker 2: variety in depth. He had five players that had three
- 40:11Speaker 2: hundred and fifty yards or more rushing. That was literally
- 40:14Speaker 2: a plug and play there. Twenty twenty two, he also
- 40:18Speaker 2: had no single player that went for one thousand, and
- 40:21Speaker 2: war Lewis a running back win for eight forty six.
- 40:23Speaker 2: Quarterback Zion Web went for six seventy six, and he
- 40:26Speaker 2: had four players that went for four to fifty or more.
- 40:29Speaker 2: So his first two years at jack State he had
- 40:30Speaker 2: a little more depth. It was more guys, it was
- 40:33Speaker 2: spread hit. Last year he had two superstars he that
- 40:36Speaker 2: he rode. If Jaheim averages five yards per carry, he
- 40:42Speaker 2: gets home in two hundred and forty carries. So again,
- 40:46Speaker 2: your variables here are. Rich has talked a lot about
- 40:49Speaker 2: the lack of running back depth right now, but you
- 40:52Speaker 2: know you've got Jehem White and he's had two really
- 40:55Speaker 2: solid seasons injury plays back, in workload plays in He's
- 41:00Speaker 2: going to get a workload if he stays healthy, he's
- 41:02Speaker 2: going to get there. And what Rich's system has showed
- 41:05Speaker 2: us because I think this is and this isn't handicapping,
- 41:08Speaker 2: This is just guessing because the main variable here is
- 41:11Speaker 2: the injury part of this. When Rich has had a
- 41:14Speaker 2: healthy back and a clear number one running back, this
- 41:19Speaker 2: number goes, it goes over. Those are your variables. Lack
- 41:23Speaker 2: of depth at running back, which you may be sitting at.
- 41:26Speaker 2: You may be staring at that right now. Hop yes,
- 41:28Speaker 2: without a clearly defined rushing quarterback that may get over
- 41:31Speaker 2: one thousand and a stud running back. I mean the
- 41:36Speaker 2: ingredients are there if health comes along with this, I
- 41:39Speaker 2: think jeems sales. So you're trying to handicap getting a
- 41:43Speaker 2: bunch of carries? Can Jaheim hold up behind an offensive
- 41:47Speaker 2: line that's a little inexperience over or under twelve hundred
- 41:50Speaker 2: yards rushing?
- 41:51Speaker 3: I'm going under for three reasons. One is that he
- 41:55Speaker 3: has not come close to twelve hundred in his previous seasons.
- 42:00Speaker 3: Second of all, if to get to twelve hundred, he
- 42:04Speaker 3: would have to increase his output from last year by
- 42:06Speaker 3: forty percent.
- 42:07Speaker 2: That's a lot. That's a lot.
- 42:09Speaker 3: Third is that you mentioned, which is a very bold
- 42:12Speaker 3: that you have to account for, but you don't know
- 42:15Speaker 3: what it's going to be. In that is, if he's
- 42:16Speaker 3: going to carry the ball two and fifty times, it
- 42:17Speaker 3: is hard to go a season and not get dinged
- 42:19Speaker 3: up and say, well, White can't go this week because
- 42:21Speaker 3: he's dinged up. So for those reasons injury possibility, it'd
- 42:25Speaker 3: have to be a forty percent increase. He's not come
- 42:28Speaker 3: close to that number before. I'm going under now.
- 42:30Speaker 2: In Jahime's first two years, he had a super talented,
- 42:35Speaker 2: very capable running quarterback in Garrett Green. He also split
- 42:39Speaker 2: carries with another big running back in CJ. Donaldson. There
- 42:43Speaker 2: was a lot more people carrying the ball than are
- 42:45Speaker 2: likely to this year.
- 42:46Speaker 1: And three emerging NFL offensive linemen. Why the Collum, Zach Frasier, Dougnesk.
- 42:52Speaker 3: Who knows about the offensive line? You just don't know.
- 42:54Speaker 3: I think so.
- 42:55Speaker 2: Splitting the carries the last two seasons because it was
- 42:57Speaker 2: the same thing last year, right, even though Garrett was
- 43:00Speaker 2: a lot of the season you had, you had a
- 43:01Speaker 2: really a three headed rushing attack. You probably don't have
- 43:06Speaker 2: that right now as it stands. Maybe one develops, but
- 43:08Speaker 2: as you sit here today when you're making this call,
- 43:10Speaker 2: you don't have that. You have one returning guy that
- 43:14Speaker 2: has done it at this level and has done it
- 43:16Speaker 2: extremely well. Hmmm. I'm not a suede. No, I'm under.
- 43:20Speaker 3: I'm trying to I'd love, I'd love for it to be,
- 43:22Speaker 3: but I'm under.
- 43:23Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out.
- 43:24Speaker 2: I don't. I don't. You don't have to qualify that,
- 43:25Speaker 2: that's okay.
- 43:27Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out where you're trying to lead us.
- 43:29Speaker 1: Probably a good direction because I jumped, Like my initial perception,
- 43:33Speaker 1: my initial gut reaction was go under.
- 43:36Speaker 2: Mm hm again, how most of these season long things,
- 43:41Speaker 2: if you're playing the odds, you probably should go under
- 43:44Speaker 2: because of what I mean. The the injury is the
- 43:46Speaker 2: biggest thing here. But man, when if there's no injury
- 43:50Speaker 2: and the other variables line up, Rich's numbers at multiple
- 43:54Speaker 2: places tell you that a back hits this number.
- 43:57Speaker 1: Having watched Jaheim play and having much other running backs
- 44:01Speaker 1: who have had success under Rich, right, you can take Jahem,
- 44:04Speaker 1: he can be Avon Kober right, he can be Quincy
- 44:08Speaker 1: Wilson right.
- 44:09Speaker 3: You know what, it's not physically.
- 44:11Speaker 1: I mean my point is like he's got that it
- 44:14Speaker 1: to him. Okay, he's got that it to him. You
- 44:16Speaker 1: don't look at him and go like, well, there's no
- 44:17Speaker 1: way he'll be able to So I started with a no.
- 44:22Speaker 1: Then you're the fact that there isn't a whole ton
- 44:26Speaker 1: of other guys right now at that running back position
- 44:30Speaker 1: makes me kind of go, well, he's going to get
- 44:32Speaker 1: a ton of carries. Then the the the all time
- 44:34Speaker 1: intangible is does he get hurt? Right? Then? How many
- 44:40Speaker 1: yards are you going to get out of your quarterback rushing?
- 44:43Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
- 44:44Speaker 1: And if you're going to have offensive success, you're going
- 44:46Speaker 1: to have to have a You're going to have to
- 44:49Speaker 1: have a bell cow. And so we know rich when
- 44:54Speaker 1: he finds a bell cow, he rings a hell out
- 44:56Speaker 1: of that bell. And so despite my intuition to say
- 45:02Speaker 1: under you got to have an attraction, Hoppy and I'm
- 45:07Speaker 1: going to say that Jaheim will become the attraction and
- 45:12Speaker 1: I'm going to go over.
- 45:17Speaker 2: Okay mm hmm. Brad, I am super conflicted here join
- 45:25Speaker 2: the club because I want to go over because the
- 45:30Speaker 2: only thing holding me back is injury. But as I've
- 45:34Speaker 2: said many times. Now, that's also the one reason why
- 45:36Speaker 2: you really should probably play unders more often. Right, But
- 45:41Speaker 2: he fits this profile like Tony, you just said that, right,
- 45:43Speaker 2: That's exactly what I keep coming back to. Avon was
- 45:48Speaker 2: so damn durable twelve ninety eight and seventeen ten.
- 45:52Speaker 1: You know it's also creators under itch. No, it's also
- 45:54Speaker 1: crazy we're saying this with a totally rebuilt offensive line
- 45:57Speaker 1: that you have zero idea. Will they be below average,
- 46:00Speaker 1: will they be average? Will they be above average? You
- 46:01Speaker 1: got no clue what I mean.
- 46:02Speaker 3: We keep referencing Avon was an exception in skill and endurability.
- 46:10Speaker 3: We don't see that that much anymore of somebody who's
- 46:12Speaker 3: that durable for that long.
- 46:14Speaker 2: You're right, Quincey did it, Slayton did it, Pat did it,
- 46:21Speaker 2: Noel did it twice, Okay, Wendell Smallwood did it. Crawford
- 46:27Speaker 2: came right up to it. Jahem has shown you a
- 46:34Speaker 2: ton in the last two years. And Jaheem has also
- 46:37Speaker 2: shown you different than what Avon had to do when
- 46:39Speaker 2: it was much more of a grinded out five six,
- 46:43Speaker 2: had to get eight, then got eleven, then had to
- 46:45Speaker 2: get six more and than seven just felt like I
- 46:47Speaker 2: felt like Avon was a lot of Emmett Smith, right,
- 46:49Speaker 2: just had to keep going, keep going, keep going, and
- 46:51Speaker 2: just could stack those carries. Jehem's gonna bust a couple
- 46:54Speaker 2: big ones, isn't he.
- 46:56Speaker 1: That's kind of what I'm thinking.
- 46:57Speaker 2: He's gonna rip off. He maybe doesn't have to get
- 47:00Speaker 2: I said, he has to get to two hundred and
- 47:01Speaker 2: fifty carries. If he averages five yards of carry, that'd
- 47:04Speaker 2: be a pretty significant drop for what he averaged the
- 47:07Speaker 2: last couple of seasons. But counterpoint three NFL minimum three,
- 47:12Speaker 2: probably four. That first year offensive lineman maybe ends up
- 47:16Speaker 2: with five if Remac ends up there last year, multiple
- 47:19Speaker 2: potential NFL offensive lineman, and you just don't know that
- 47:22Speaker 2: this year. Maybe some of these guys end up there.
- 47:25Speaker 2: You don't know that right now. But he doesn't have
- 47:28Speaker 2: to average five. He can average if he averages six again.
- 47:31Speaker 2: What if he everages six and a half, What if
- 47:33Speaker 2: her rips off some more again?
- 47:35Speaker 1: On my pick, he got to have a really good
- 47:37Speaker 1: first two weeks. My man, My man needs to go
- 47:40Speaker 1: like about one, six, three and seventy five yards after
- 47:44Speaker 1: the first two games. Something in that neighbor.
- 47:46Speaker 3: One hundred yards a game, and that's an average.
- 47:50Speaker 1: Yeah, Brad, you're going over.
- 47:52Speaker 2: I shouldn't. I shouldn't. I should not. Oh it's August.
- 47:56Speaker 2: You can go over.
- 47:56Speaker 1: Man, you're over.
- 47:57Speaker 2: Yeah. That's probably fanboy part coming out there too, because
- 48:00Speaker 2: you writ it's easy. The chat. The the selfish part
- 48:04Speaker 2: of this is you want to root for overs, right,
- 48:06Speaker 2: if you want to be right, you want to root
- 48:07Speaker 2: for overs. The play is probably under, but I'm not
- 48:11Speaker 2: doing I'm going over so great, So I say I
- 48:13Speaker 2: come on here and lead with go a lot of unders.
- 48:15Speaker 2: I went to two weeks.
- 48:16Speaker 3: The thing is if you don't follow rich and you
- 48:21Speaker 3: just think, oh, you know, a hurry up offense. Uh,
- 48:25Speaker 3: spread it out, throw it all over the place. No,
- 48:27Speaker 3: they run the ball. They run the a lot more
- 48:29Speaker 3: than they passed the ball, So more bred to your point,
- 48:32Speaker 3: more opportunities probably.
- 48:33Speaker 1: We'll say, jumping Jack. We'll write these down and then
- 48:37Speaker 1: we'll update three quarters of the way through the season,
- 48:40Speaker 1: maybe the three cords the way. When we start in November,
- 48:42Speaker 1: we'll say, Okay, here's where we are, here's what needs
- 48:43Speaker 1: to still happen.
- 48:44Speaker 2: Now, what have we got wins and losses? Bread, No,
- 48:47Speaker 2: that's our three Okay, that's our three categories.
- 48:50Speaker 1: But you're going to come back next Wednesday.
- 48:54Speaker 2: I think these are fun. Yeah, if you guys like them,
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- 50:21Speaker 3: Cannot throw this out, So Brad, again, I don't want
- 50:24Speaker 3: to discourage the over I just looked at something here.
- 50:27Speaker 3: So how many D one teams are there?
- 50:32Speaker 2: One hundred and the thirtieth under thirty one thirty two something?
- 50:36Speaker 3: So last season there were only twenty three rushers who
- 50:40Speaker 3: had more than.
- 50:41Speaker 2: Twelve undred yards? How many twenty three?
- 50:46Speaker 3: So he'd be in pretty elite company if you can
- 50:48Speaker 3: do that, not quite ten percent.
- 50:49Speaker 1: I think he's pretty elite though.
- 50:50Speaker 2: Yeah, see that. I mean that's the thing. I think
- 50:52Speaker 2: you're dealing with an elite back here.
- 50:54Speaker 1: Okay, he's got skidaddle. He can run away from people,
- 50:57Speaker 1: he can run.
- 50:58Speaker 2: Away from the pop bulkings, head down, run inside too
- 51:00Speaker 2: if you need so. And again I think not to rehash,
- 51:04Speaker 2: but I just think you have a dynamic elite guy
- 51:06Speaker 2: potentially I think you've got an offense that that lends
- 51:10Speaker 2: itself to this, and past history has shown if healthy
- 51:14Speaker 2: Rich has a guy that does this more times than not, h.
- 51:21Speaker 1: You know, Rich is going to get him the ball.
- 51:23Speaker 1: I'm just hoping that it isn't a whole lot of
- 51:27Speaker 1: touches via the swing pass, because basically that's almost like
- 51:32Speaker 1: an extended run. So like if they feel okay, let's
- 51:36Speaker 1: just stick in his hands and our guy will be
- 51:38Speaker 1: catching the ball two yards behind the line of scrimmage
- 51:40Speaker 1: and then just ripping up field and we're going, well,
- 51:42Speaker 1: that's that's actually that's a toss. That's just a sweep.
- 51:45Speaker 1: He's just running a swep. Can we get those yards? Probably?
- 51:47Speaker 1: Not right? Maybe added probably not no seriousness. A good
- 51:53Speaker 1: over under would also be his with his catches, you know,
- 51:56Speaker 1: compare where his catches.
- 51:58Speaker 2: I know, but we always we do running back catch
- 52:00Speaker 2: every year and it's never I think it is that's under.
- 52:02Speaker 2: Whenever you want to make the number under. That's one
- 52:05Speaker 2: of the great lies. One, that's one of the great
- 52:07Speaker 2: lies that and tight ends a lot of running backs.
- 52:10Speaker 2: There may be playing some running back in slot this
- 52:13Speaker 2: year trying to get the ball in their hands if
- 52:14Speaker 2: we can't. To Rich's credit, has not said that he's
- 52:17Speaker 2: gone the other way. Rich had said, they have so
- 52:19Speaker 2: many slots, they've been sitting some of the slots back
- 52:20Speaker 2: at the running back position. That's what we should have
- 52:22Speaker 2: done carries for slot receivers.
- 52:25Speaker 1: Yesterday in media, tight ends, Coach Ryan said Rich busted
- 52:33Speaker 1: him a little bit in the team meeting because the
- 52:35Speaker 1: sign on the door said tight ends running or tight
- 52:38Speaker 1: ends full backs on their on their meeting room door,
- 52:40Speaker 1: and Rich said, doing like coach, he goes, do I
- 52:43Speaker 1: miss something here? We have fullbacks. I'd probably go out
- 52:47Speaker 1: there with Sharpie.
- 52:50Speaker 2: Nice Wonder the New Titan. He also had a funny one, though,
- 52:52Speaker 2: he said in saying that though the first touchdown scored
- 52:55Speaker 2: in a bowl game for Jacksonville State's program came from
- 52:58Speaker 2: a guy lined up as the full back position in
- 53:00Speaker 2: an eye stuck it eye formation. You know, we love that.
- 53:04Speaker 2: We love the eye formation.
- 53:05Speaker 1: Handed to the touchdown, I love the eye I love
- 53:08Speaker 1: the ie formation.
- 53:09Speaker 2: School All right, So there you go. So there's over under.
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- 55:43Speaker 2: relax because I know winners right behind it.
- 55:45Speaker 1: It doesn't bother me at all because of basketball.
- 55:48Speaker 3: Oh basketball is I love basketball.
- 55:51Speaker 1: Basketball is my absolute elixir, Like I don't if I
- 55:55Speaker 1: didn't have basketball, Like if Nay Smith didn't invite invent
- 55:58Speaker 1: basketballbably would have to be like hospitalized in the winter.
- 56:03Speaker 1: But basketball is like this, It just it's it's my
- 56:07Speaker 1: lifeblood because it takes you through the ugliness right and
- 56:13Speaker 1: really here doesn't get bad till January. December's fine something,
- 56:16Speaker 1: January February mar like that. When that March comes and
- 56:20Speaker 1: it's still like it's still crappy, you going like enough
- 56:23Speaker 1: is enough. So March kits me through that and then
- 56:26Speaker 1: then the flowers start growing, you go at the lou
- 56:28Speaker 1: window and you start the whole season over again.
- 56:30Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to spring. I'm working on it. Yeah yeah,
- 56:34Speaker 2: I'm already bummed out. Like it's not light at nine
- 56:37Speaker 2: o'clock anymore. Snow wins? Is it? March days are getting shorter.
- 56:42Speaker 2: If we just didn't have to deal with the snow,
- 56:44Speaker 2: that's really my only thing, and quite frankly, only snow
- 56:46Speaker 2: on the roads. If it could just find a way
- 56:48Speaker 2: to snow and stay off the roads, then then winter
- 56:51Speaker 2: wouldn't bother me as much. That's really my issue. If
- 56:53Speaker 2: I niche it down, that's my problem.
- 56:55Speaker 1: I don't disagree with.
- 56:55Speaker 2: I can handle the cold. I can handle everything. That fine,
- 56:58Speaker 2: You're right, we're inside most time we're doing games. It's great.
- 57:01Speaker 2: But having to affect my ride and calculate for bad roads,
- 57:05Speaker 2: worry about bad roads all that.
- 57:07Speaker 3: I can handle snow and even the roads. It's it's gray,
- 57:12Speaker 3: oh yeah, I mean if it snows, if it snows
- 57:15Speaker 3: it's eight inches.
- 57:16Speaker 2: But it's a clear day. I'm cool. But man, it's
- 57:19Speaker 2: that great. It's that gray weather that we took a
- 57:23Speaker 2: turn August thirteen, talking about gray weather. Yeah, just enjoy
- 57:27Speaker 2: get it back on track. All right, let's go, three guys.
- 57:29Speaker 2: I've been telling you about these new sauces, Yeah, from Tutors, Tuitors. Yeah,
- 57:34Speaker 2: we're ready.
- 57:35Speaker 1: Remember I've been teasing those saying, hey, they're gonna get
- 57:37Speaker 1: new sauces for the upcoming, for the upcoming for out. Yeah, hey, Jake,
- 57:42Speaker 1: do you have that one graphic? I'm gonna tell you
- 57:43Speaker 1: what they are, because like the Tutors, the Tutors sauce,
- 57:48Speaker 1: the sauce. Do you heard of sous chefs they got,
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- 58:00Speaker 1: Tutors barbecue sauces. Laying it off that in two ninety five,
- 58:05Speaker 1: it's honey Siracha in good power, three doubles on the
- 58:09Speaker 1: season along with two home runs. Honey Siacha, it's a
- 58:13Speaker 1: saucy pulled pork barbecue sandwich, available now at Tutors. Next
- 58:18Speaker 1: up on our new list, how about folks, some Carolina
- 58:22Speaker 1: gold there. Really, it says it all Carolina gold. Look
- 58:27Speaker 1: at the little driplets there off that sandwich for those
- 58:30Speaker 1: of you that are watching. But wait, there's more. How
- 58:32Speaker 1: about a little sweet terriaki sweet teraiaki. It's just a
- 58:38Speaker 1: it's a bowl. Teriaki just makes you want to go.
- 58:42Speaker 1: Can I have another? That's basically what it does. Or
- 58:45Speaker 1: you can go with their their traditional they use sweet
- 58:47Speaker 1: baby rays, that's their standard, but now they're gonna go
- 58:50Speaker 1: with honey saracha, Carolina gold, sweet teraakei and of course
- 58:55Speaker 1: the original made with the sweet baby rays.
- 58:58Speaker 2: What would you get today?
- 59:00Speaker 1: Get?
- 59:00Speaker 2: I need to I'm starving Carolina gold or serrata me
- 59:04Speaker 2: Carolina gold one, serata two for me?
- 59:06Speaker 3: Really, I start with Carolina gold. Yeah, I'll do that,
- 59:10Speaker 3: all right?
- 59:10Speaker 2: You already all unison. We are very agreeable today. We're
- 59:14Speaker 2: all very agreeable, trying to get along.
- 59:16Speaker 1: That'll change, that'll change.
- 59:21Speaker 3: There's no and you had a snack before the show game.
- 59:25Speaker 2: Yeah you saw a snack, saw me sna But now
- 59:27Speaker 2: you're hungry again.
- 59:29Speaker 1: It's time for your favorite something. It's time for my favorite,
- 59:32Speaker 1: it's time for everyone's favorite. It's time for textual healing.
- 59:36Speaker 1: Your opportunity to write into us, text into us. We'd
- 59:40Speaker 1: love to see her here from you third three oh
- 59:41Speaker 1: four four or four forty eighty three three oh four
- 59:44Speaker 1: four or four forty eighty three.
- 59:45Speaker 2: That's a quick fix for you. I'll take you.
- 59:48Speaker 3: I'll take you thirty seconds seat and I'll give you.
- 59:50Speaker 2: A quick fix. That's interesting, but I think i'll hold Okay,
- 59:52Speaker 2: thank you. That's interesting. That's good.
- 59:54Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well they're good enough, and they're a good
- 59:57Speaker 3: they're a good fix, fair enough.
- 59:58Speaker 2: I know what you're saying. Relatively healthy.
- 59:59Speaker 1: We receiving. Each of us received a box really well done,
- 1:00:06Speaker 1: like a nice blue box with the flying WV onnes say.
- 1:00:08Speaker 1: We had no idea what it was. I still don't. Okay,
- 1:00:13Speaker 1: yeah I did. I'm gonna read this letter to you. Hey,
- 1:00:19Speaker 1: put these on here so I can see it.
- 1:00:21Speaker 3: Only mildly suspicious of boxes, that are right.
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: Russell writes in from Durham, North Carolina. I think there
- 1:00:28Speaker 1: was a college, their college down there in Durham. Yeah, Tony,
- 1:00:32Speaker 1: I'm a doubv you alm huge fan of three guys.
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: Before the game. As a thank you for being such
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: a great representative of my alma mater, I wanted to
- 1:00:40Speaker 1: send you guys signed copies of my Mountaineer mystery series
- 1:00:45Speaker 1: always a West Virginia connection, and the author is mister
- 1:00:50Speaker 1: Russell Johnson. Look at these books he wrote, he wrote
- 1:00:53Speaker 1: this one. It's called Moonshine. Messiah signed it too, Like
- 1:00:59Speaker 1: the Illegitimate, a child of justified and sons of anarchy.
- 1:01:02Speaker 1: The Moonshah Massah leaps off the page with a rarefied
- 1:01:06Speaker 1: air of gritty hillbilly realism. That's by Craig Johnson, an
- 1:01:10Speaker 1: author of the Walt Longmire series. The other one is
- 1:01:14Speaker 1: called The Mountain Mystic. It's a mountaineer mystery. Wes Brown,
- 1:01:22Speaker 1: author writes, Russell Johnson has packed more twists and turns
- 1:01:25Speaker 1: into the Mountaineer Mystic than you'll find in West Virginia
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: back roads. His character's Rome. And then this one, well,
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: he'd really nicely. I love the paper and I love
- 1:01:35Speaker 1: the I love the cover. It's really well done. This
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: is called Miners Miners Myth. The Miners Myth is a
- 1:01:43Speaker 1: high octane Appalachian noir noir where justice ain't always clean,
- 1:01:48Speaker 1: but sure as hell is satisfying, awesome, and he gave
- 1:01:52Speaker 1: us book.
- 1:01:55Speaker 2: I'm in the back of these, I know, thank you.
- 1:01:58Speaker 2: This is this is great. I'm in on this.
- 1:02:00Speaker 3: Ussell Johnson is an attorney who got so sick of
- 1:02:02Speaker 3: billable hours he started writing crime fiction.
- 1:02:05Speaker 1: Well guess what, he should join the Mike Florio fan club.
- 1:02:08Speaker 2: There we did, Yeah, he did, started writing.
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: Why does every attorney want to do something other than
- 1:02:14Speaker 1: practice law? Did you ever notice that except for except
- 1:02:18Speaker 1: for jan Dills, she's the only one that really wants
- 1:02:20Speaker 1: every lawyer we know always has got a side hustle.
- 1:02:22Speaker 3: Russell won the West Virginia Writers Association's Pearls Buck Award,
- 1:02:27Speaker 3: as well as first place for book linked Fiction. For
- 1:02:30Speaker 3: more information, go to Russell W. Johnson dot com.
- 1:02:33Speaker 2: Thank you, Russell. I appreciate that. I'm interested to read
- 1:02:36Speaker 2: all these. Also, bookmarks underrated piece of the reading process. Hopy.
- 1:02:41Speaker 2: I read a lot on my phone too. Right so,
- 1:02:44Speaker 2: but when you have a book, not having a good
- 1:02:47Speaker 2: bookmark is a is a major source of frustration.
- 1:02:49Speaker 3: Otherwise you're reaching for something. Put a sock in.
- 1:02:51Speaker 2: Something, put something in there. I don't want to fold
- 1:02:53Speaker 2: the page on that. Thank you, seriously, Thank you look
- 1:02:57Speaker 2: forward to it. Thank you dig into these.
- 1:02:59Speaker 1: And I don't remember the context of our first textual healing,
- 1:03:03Speaker 1: but the guy right in and says you, okay there, Timmy, Yeah,
- 1:03:10Speaker 1: I'll get it over with maybe December. As a former
- 1:03:13Speaker 1: fat guy, I have to watch my chip consumption, especially
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: after a fried green tomato and bacon sandwich. However, my
- 1:03:19Speaker 1: kids and grandkids don't have the same issue. I think
- 1:03:22Speaker 1: he's referring to that bag we showed you holding in
- 1:03:24Speaker 1: Gomartse chips.
- 1:03:26Speaker 2: Which what were the Mothman ones and then the Pepperoni
- 1:03:29Speaker 2: roll ones.
- 1:03:29Speaker 1: Uh huh, Coach Rod, you can do a lot of
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: stuff with ai coach Rod confirmed unconfirmed photo. There he
- 1:03:39Speaker 1: is in the garden pulling weeds. Remember he went on that.
- 1:03:42Speaker 1: He went on that riff about when he was, you know,
- 1:03:44Speaker 1: growing up. His dad put him in the garden Pollee
- 1:03:46Speaker 1: and there's Coach Rod work in the garden. Maybe maybe
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: he's right near the practice field there.
- 1:03:51Speaker 2: I think he's pulling kind of grooming things up at
- 1:03:53Speaker 2: the push car shore.
- 1:03:54Speaker 1: Absolutely. But in Lexington, Kentucky, guys, there is a Tutor's
- 1:03:59Speaker 1: Biscuit World in Lexington on New Circle Road. Did not
- 1:04:02Speaker 1: know they were in there, probably Shebway probably went there
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: a lot, right, so Oscar was here, Yeah, saw the
- 1:04:08Speaker 1: tutors down there University Avenue and then when he got
- 1:04:10Speaker 1: to Lexington probably saw that on no place like home
- 1:04:14Speaker 1: for him.
- 1:04:15Speaker 2: Unconfirmed. Where's os these days?
- 1:04:19Speaker 1: Jazz Jazz Organization. Texter, I am way late on this.
- 1:04:24Speaker 1: Life's caught up with us doctor's appointments, going out of town, work, travel, baseball,
- 1:04:29Speaker 1: family vacation, finally getting back into a normal routine, and
- 1:04:32Speaker 1: listening to the episode with Dusty Rutledge maybe the funniest
- 1:04:36Speaker 1: guest on the show. This guy writes, not sure if
- 1:04:39Speaker 1: this is Tony or someone who runs the text line
- 1:04:41Speaker 1: for the show. That's me.
- 1:04:45Speaker 2: Dusty was good.
- 1:04:46Speaker 1: Dusty was really really good.
- 1:04:50Speaker 2: Whenever way, the scones we ate on the show sold
- 1:04:53Speaker 2: out fast.
- 1:04:54Speaker 1: Thirty two and thirty two, thirty two in two days
- 1:04:57Speaker 1: in Mountaineer roasting. They were gone, really grateful, grateful bread.
- 1:05:02Speaker 1: You know I told you about her. Yeah yeah, got
- 1:05:05Speaker 1: a micromay, sold thirty two of women in two days.
- 1:05:07Speaker 3: But you could never tell me how to get it.
- 1:05:10Speaker 1: You don't start your crap, Garrett.
- 1:05:12Speaker 3: And now they got Now they have west Over blocked off.
- 1:05:14Speaker 3: It's like East Berlin.
- 1:05:16Speaker 2: I mean you can.
- 1:05:20Speaker 1: There's a lot of infrastructure going on in west Over
- 1:05:22Speaker 1: right now. There's some there. They're into some pipes that
- 1:05:25Speaker 1: hadn't been seen for a long time.
- 1:05:28Speaker 3: And the fact that they have guys in these gray uniforms.
- 1:05:31Speaker 3: You know at checkpoint Charlie.
- 1:05:32Speaker 1: There who deer goes into the house.
- 1:05:37Speaker 2: Just want to go to west Over?
- 1:05:39Speaker 3: I just want to go to west Over via going here?
- 1:05:42Speaker 2: What was?
- 1:05:42Speaker 3: What is the purpose off your physicis?
- 1:05:48Speaker 2: Let me papers, please papers?
- 1:05:51Speaker 1: Why do you want to come to the triangle in
- 1:05:53Speaker 1: west Over? Get over there with the furniture Galleyon used
- 1:05:57Speaker 1: to be.
- 1:06:00Speaker 2: Trying to get to Calisante' what's the hard thing? Have
- 1:06:04Speaker 2: you tried the intestance?
- 1:06:08Speaker 1: Go back where you came from. Hey, three guys, longtime listener.
- 1:06:12Speaker 1: I'm curious what stats are out there around how many
- 1:06:16Speaker 1: big plays per game Zach Alley's defenses have given up
- 1:06:20Speaker 1: historically with his aggressive nature. I'm excited to hear what
- 1:06:24Speaker 1: Brad Drum's up, excited to see the defense flying around.
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: So I took it upon myself.
- 1:06:31Speaker 2: Got up in bread zone.
- 1:06:33Speaker 1: I'm absolutely lying. These are Jed Dreading's numbers.
- 1:06:37Speaker 2: Come up with that. I do my own numbers. He
- 1:06:39Speaker 2: doesn't come up with his number.
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: Now, So this is from Jed Drenning, and he does
- 1:06:42Speaker 1: a great podcast and literally he has a sixty two
- 1:06:46Speaker 1: page pdf that he's that he compiles. He said, he
- 1:06:50Speaker 1: told me the other day. He said, see all this stuff.
- 1:06:52Speaker 1: I go, yeah. He goes, I do this while I'm
- 1:06:55Speaker 1: listening to you. Guys do basketball games in the winter.
- 1:06:58Speaker 1: He goes, that's what I do. I'm at home at night,
- 1:07:00Speaker 1: and I'd just put all these stats together. The He's
- 1:07:02Speaker 1: the savant. So I said, okay, good, I said, I
- 1:07:04Speaker 1: promise if I use any of your numbers, I'm going
- 1:07:06Speaker 1: to give you credit. So credit to the one and
- 1:07:09Speaker 1: only Jed Drenning. But so I've got some basic things.
- 1:07:14Speaker 1: So I've got Zach Alley at Oklahoma. Last year, Zach
- 1:07:17Speaker 1: Alley at Jacksonville State in twenty three he allowed he
- 1:07:23Speaker 1: allowed ten ten yard plus plays allowed at Oklahoma average
- 1:07:35Speaker 1: to be eleven per game, one hundred and thirty six
- 1:07:39Speaker 1: on the season. Just to give you an example, last
- 1:07:44Speaker 1: year West Virginia so one thirty six at Oklahoma, total
- 1:07:51Speaker 1: one eighty six at West Virginia. So scoring defense. I'll
- 1:07:57Speaker 1: give you an example, Zachlast year Oklahoma gave up twenty
- 1:08:01Speaker 1: two a game. Jack State gave up twenty one a game.
- 1:08:05Speaker 1: Last year West Virginia gave up thirty two a game.
- 1:08:09Speaker 1: So ten ten more, I'll give you some. I'll give
- 1:08:15Speaker 1: you some pressures. West Virginia pressured last year one hundred
- 1:08:20Speaker 1: and sixteen times Oklahoma one hundred and sixty six and
- 1:08:24Speaker 1: at jack State one pint eighty.
- 1:08:26Speaker 2: Who jack State had a good defense last year.
- 1:08:29Speaker 1: Yeah, tackles for a loss Zach Alley last year seven
- 1:08:34Speaker 1: point four at Oklahoma, seven one at Jacksonville State, West
- 1:08:38Speaker 1: Virginia last year four point eight. Okay, So last year
- 1:08:48Speaker 1: here's the answer. Plays of twenty yards or more against
- 1:08:55Speaker 1: Oklahoma's defense last year fifty one, which put him ninth
- 1:09:00Speaker 1: in the Big twelve. Plays of thirty yards or more
- 1:09:02Speaker 1: twenty nine put them fifteenth in the SEC. Plays of
- 1:09:06Speaker 1: forty or more fifteen which put them fourteenth in the SEC.
- 1:09:14Speaker 1: But nationally, yeah, I mean this defense is going to
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: give up big plays. He's also going to have a
- 1:09:21Speaker 1: lot of TFLs. He's also going to have a lot
- 1:09:23Speaker 1: of sack It's going to be mayhem. So it's gonna
- 1:09:25Speaker 1: be one of those classic things. Can you can you
- 1:09:27Speaker 1: keep them outside of the goal line, but they're gonna
- 1:09:29Speaker 1: they're gonna get up some plays.
- 1:09:30Speaker 2: The ten plus yards was a little more efficient. Oklahoma
- 1:09:33Speaker 2: was top five in that category. Opponent ten yards or more.
- 1:09:37Speaker 2: West Virginia last year one hundred and sixth in that
- 1:09:40Speaker 2: category ten yards or more.
- 1:09:42Speaker 1: Red zone touchdown percentage. In other words, can you keep
- 1:09:45Speaker 1: them out of the end zone even if they're hitting
- 1:09:46Speaker 1: big plays. They were fourth best in the SEC last
- 1:09:49Speaker 1: year forty seven percent. They were sixth best in the
- 1:09:55Speaker 1: in the SEC last year in sacks, they were third
- 1:09:58Speaker 1: best in tackles for a loss. So there's your aggressive
- 1:10:01Speaker 1: there's your aggressive nature. And they were six the best
- 1:10:04Speaker 1: in takeaways in the SEC with twenty one thirty six
- 1:10:08Speaker 1: in the country.
- 1:10:09Speaker 3: You know, I generally speaking, Tony, I like that aggressiveness
- 1:10:13Speaker 3: because at the college level, guys make the other team
- 1:10:17Speaker 3: screw it up, I mean, increase their chances of making
- 1:10:21Speaker 3: a mistake rather than sitting back there going Okay, they're pros,
- 1:10:25Speaker 3: we're pros, and somebody's.
- 1:10:26Speaker 2: Gonna you know, and play it that way. So I
- 1:10:29Speaker 2: like the risk taking bread to you. I'll tell you
- 1:10:33Speaker 2: in December, there's there's not much worse than getting beat
- 1:10:39Speaker 2: when you're just getting carved up, right, So there is
- 1:10:42Speaker 2: an element of okay, make them do so just if
- 1:10:45Speaker 2: you're gonna get beat. We said that a bunch last year.
- 1:10:47Speaker 2: Ye right, how many times last year and it got
- 1:10:49Speaker 2: turned around a little bit. There were moments where that
- 1:10:51Speaker 2: happened where it's just like, all right, you're getting beat anyway,
- 1:10:54Speaker 2: get up on somebody and get after somebody and then
- 1:10:57Speaker 2: see where it goes. The one thing, though, guys, I
- 1:10:59Speaker 2: mean we can pair last year's Oklahoma stats to the
- 1:11:01Speaker 2: last year's West Virginia's all we want players? Yeah, I
- 1:11:04Speaker 2: mean it's players. I mean, okay, Zach's aggressive with it,
- 1:11:06Speaker 2: it's still players. He had some dudes on that Oklahoma
- 1:11:09Speaker 2: team last year. Who are the dudes this year for
- 1:11:12Speaker 2: West Virginia? Right? Because West Virginia's defenders last year just
- 1:11:16Speaker 2: didn't didn't play enough. I mean, some of your guys
- 1:11:18Speaker 2: that should have been your studs just simply weren't. We
- 1:11:20Speaker 2: talked all season about guys being in the wrong spot
- 1:11:22Speaker 2: coverage wise, especially on that second level, So that that's
- 1:11:26Speaker 2: part of it too. Scheme's great, and I have the
- 1:11:29Speaker 2: utmost confidence in Zach Alley. Who are the guys? Who
- 1:11:32Speaker 2: are your guys? And if Jamory Robinson's not available for you,
- 1:11:35Speaker 2: who's going to be your pass rusher? Somebody's got to
- 1:11:37Speaker 2: go get that quarter. And you know, if you want
- 1:11:38Speaker 2: to be aggressive. What's the best thing that will make
- 1:11:40Speaker 2: an aggressive defense work? Guys?
- 1:11:43Speaker 3: And Zach howly said that when he was on this program,
- 1:11:44Speaker 3: I asked him, is how much what percent is scheme?
- 1:11:47Speaker 3: You guys would teaching me? What percent is scheme? And
- 1:11:48Speaker 3: one percent his players? He said, one hundred percent players.
- 1:11:52Speaker 1: Just is every good coach will say that. Every coach
- 1:11:57Speaker 1: that thinks it's them will be totally wrong. It's got
- 1:12:01Speaker 1: to be players. Texter wanted us to shout out the
- 1:12:04Speaker 1: female umpire that worked for the very first time of
- 1:12:07Speaker 1: the major leagues this past weekend behind the home plate
- 1:12:11Speaker 1: and from all accounts, I mean both managers, so that
- 1:12:13Speaker 1: she was fantastic, which is art. It was great, Right,
- 1:12:15Speaker 1: you got female officials now in NFL, in NBA and
- 1:12:21Speaker 1: now Major League Baseball.
- 1:12:22Speaker 3: Jen paw Oil, Powell, Yeah, paw Oil.
- 1:12:26Speaker 1: It's awesome. Guess what's twenty twenty five? Right?
- 1:12:28Speaker 2: Yeah? Really? Hey?
- 1:12:29Speaker 1: Three has three guys officially reviewed these I'm about to
- 1:12:32Speaker 1: dive in. We got a picture here. Those are big cups.
- 1:12:37Speaker 2: Yeah. I have tried the great I've tried one of
- 1:12:41Speaker 2: these two. I can't remember which one, whichever one was,
- 1:12:43Speaker 2: I liked it. I don't know that I liked it
- 1:12:45Speaker 2: enough to go away from the regular traditionalist. Yeah, but
- 1:12:49Speaker 2: I'm okay with it.
- 1:12:51Speaker 1: This pretty good one. Here and again we always talk
- 1:12:53Speaker 1: about the impact or the expanse of this podcast. Brad
- 1:12:58Speaker 1: and Saberton rights in he wants a big hello, Hello,
- 1:13:03Speaker 1: I'm six thousand miles away. During the textual Healing Hiatus.
- 1:13:09Speaker 1: We went to Greece, representing West Virginia in Greece at
- 1:13:14Speaker 1: the Acropolis and the birthplace. There we go, birthplace of
- 1:13:17Speaker 1: modern Olympics. Here we go the Pena. I say, hup,
- 1:13:23Speaker 1: panathon Yatic Stadium, Pana Panathean, Panathonia, Mikonos.
- 1:13:30Speaker 2: Paneon, Pantheon, Pantheon plus uh.
- 1:13:35Speaker 1: I was going to say that, and my guy Mikonos,
- 1:13:39Speaker 1: take a look at these there's Brad, you know Brad, right, yeah, yeah,
- 1:13:42Speaker 1: you know Brad. And then there was a look at
- 1:13:44Speaker 1: those windmills, sixteenth century windmills lined up, started spinning, got
- 1:13:50Speaker 1: the whole whole country at Greece, game electricity.
- 1:13:53Speaker 2: It's a good trip. That was fun.
- 1:13:55Speaker 1: Six thousand miles away from Sabreton flying the flag. Three guys.
- 1:14:00Speaker 1: Listener Glenn from Glenn Ferris writes, thanks for the Dusty
- 1:14:04Speaker 1: Rutledge episode. He is a state and football program treasure,
- 1:14:07Speaker 1: a football and rich rod lifer who has some of
- 1:14:10Speaker 1: the best football stories ever. I'd love to see video
- 1:14:13Speaker 1: of Dusty working the mic at practice, as I've heard,
- 1:14:16Speaker 1: is a site to behold, and surely his microphone skills
- 1:14:20Speaker 1: were not up to par during the episode one. Oh yeah,
- 1:14:23Speaker 1: he struggled with his microphone.
- 1:14:24Speaker 2: We got it. We have to do something about that.
- 1:14:26Speaker 1: We got to make the person wear headsets is what
- 1:14:28Speaker 1: we need to do. Yes, one last thing is not
- 1:14:31Speaker 1: a big deal. We can do then, thanks. One last
- 1:14:34Speaker 1: thing is Spreads and his boat bowie story from the
- 1:14:37Speaker 1: Summer Camp episode. It's called a boat fender, which protects
- 1:14:41Speaker 1: your boat went mooring to another. Perhaps the senator's neighbor,
- 1:14:44Speaker 1: Chuck has a few for Salepy.
- 1:14:47Speaker 2: His neighbor, Chuck.
- 1:14:50Speaker 1: Chuck's probably got some booies from Mchal's Navy. Probably. I
- 1:14:54Speaker 1: think Chuck buys all stuff at an Army Navy surplus store.
- 1:14:58Speaker 3: Wef Chuck buys something thing. It's good, high quality and
- 1:15:02Speaker 3: well taken care of.
- 1:15:03Speaker 1: I like that. Yes, Ted from Colorado here is how
- 1:15:06Speaker 1: I would define success this season. Seven wins this year
- 1:15:11Speaker 1: and go up from there? Is that too optimistic?
- 1:15:14Speaker 2: Probably five and a half win total? Sevens in play?
- 1:15:20Speaker 3: How do you start? You go three to zero that
- 1:15:22Speaker 3: pit game? Here we go stating the obvious. How large
- 1:15:26Speaker 3: does that loom on so many different levels? Well, I
- 1:15:29Speaker 3: mean if you win that, you think certainly you can
- 1:15:32Speaker 3: get three out of the next nine.
- 1:15:33Speaker 1: Right, But as Mountaineer men's soccer coach Dan Stratford would say, yeah,
- 1:15:39Speaker 1: it's a massive fixture on the schedule. That's what he
- 1:15:42Speaker 1: would say. It's a massive fixture. Texter. My name is
- 1:15:46Speaker 1: Josh and I'm the assistant principal at Myrtle Beach High School.
- 1:15:50Speaker 1: Good gig, I'm a That is a good gig. I'm
- 1:15:54Speaker 1: a first time Texter, longtime listener. I'm texting and to
- 1:15:57Speaker 1: share my thoughts on the new president Mikes. As someone
- 1:16:01Speaker 1: who has had the privilege of knowing Mike, I've seen
- 1:16:03Speaker 1: firsthand as character, leadership, and commitment. He is genuine, has grit,
- 1:16:07Speaker 1: and is the epitome of efforting. He's the perfect fit
- 1:16:10Speaker 1: for our great state and university. Well done, WVU. I
- 1:16:13Speaker 1: can't wait to see what the future holds in store
- 1:16:15Speaker 1: for us and hop great job on your biking adventure.
- 1:16:18Speaker 2: Talk about grit good point.
- 1:16:20Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you.
- 1:16:21Speaker 2: It was gritty gritty, gritty, got effort. First name basis
- 1:16:24Speaker 2: with President Benson.
- 1:16:26Speaker 1: Well, the President will be here on Monday. I probably
- 1:16:30Speaker 1: should have saved that for him when he was here. Anyway,
- 1:16:34Speaker 1: Hey guys, I like this one a lot. Hey guys,
- 1:16:36Speaker 1: I wore my Hope hat for a hike of the
- 1:16:39Speaker 1: Tahoe Rim Trail. It is a one hundred and seventy
- 1:16:43Speaker 1: mile trail around Lake Tahoe. Look up. Unfortunately, there have
- 1:16:48Speaker 1: been no West Virginia connection stories in study. Instead, a
- 1:16:52Speaker 1: few folks have asked, what's the odd shaped oh on
- 1:16:56Speaker 1: the hat? I took the opportunity to talk about the
- 1:16:59Speaker 1: good work you guys do for the WU Cancer Institute
- 1:17:02Speaker 1: and the Food Insecurity program. In two days we will
- 1:17:05Speaker 1: be in Tahoe City. I cannot wait to see the
- 1:17:08Speaker 1: armada of lu Wendell marine pontoons at the marina.
- 1:17:11Speaker 3: I think I see one out there.
- 1:17:13Speaker 1: It will dwarf the Allied invasion fleet for D Day.
- 1:17:17Speaker 1: Thanks for what you guys do for the university and
- 1:17:19Speaker 1: the state. Mister Phil Hall from Ashland, Kentucky.
- 1:17:23Speaker 2: Of a picture, wasn't it was?
- 1:17:24Speaker 1: Well? I tell you what. Some of our listeners have
- 1:17:25Speaker 1: had a good summer. They've been to some places, been
- 1:17:28Speaker 1: to some places.
- 1:17:29Speaker 3: They've been in Tahoe. Brad's at Cheatlink.
- 1:17:32Speaker 1: This next one is our last textual healing and it's
- 1:17:36Speaker 1: super interesting and I'll explain. Hey, Tony, it was a
- 1:17:40Speaker 1: pleasure running into you this morning in front of the
- 1:17:42Speaker 1: football stadium. I know how all of you are into barbecue,
- 1:17:45Speaker 1: and I wanted you to invite the listeners to follow
- 1:17:47Speaker 1: our Facebook page which is called dog Bite Barbecue. We
- 1:17:52Speaker 1: just learned last week that we have been invited to
- 1:17:54Speaker 1: the Jack Daniels Barbecue World's Championship in Lynchburg and we'll
- 1:17:59Speaker 1: have some fun content on the page. Here are some
- 1:18:02Speaker 1: pictures of our recent successes. Let's go mountaineers. So I
- 1:18:06Speaker 1: met this gentleman and his two boys, got two young guys,
- 1:18:10Speaker 1: and he is really good buddies with Luke Darnell. So
- 1:18:14Speaker 1: he's in that same world. There's Luke right there. He's
- 1:18:17Speaker 1: in that same world of doing these world championship uh competitions.
- 1:18:23Speaker 1: Look at them, dude, like those right there, I would
- 1:18:27Speaker 1: annihilate them and there the bones might look at those ribs.
- 1:18:31Speaker 1: Are you serious? Oh, perfect, right, man. So this guy
- 1:18:38Speaker 1: is at a super high level. There's some brisket and
- 1:18:41Speaker 1: some ribs right there. I like how they put that
- 1:18:43Speaker 1: artificial turf underneath that stuff. That's kind of neat and uh.
- 1:18:49Speaker 1: And there's so there's his little guys. He got little
- 1:18:51Speaker 1: guy little guy helpers like those. Yeah, got little guy
- 1:18:56Speaker 1: s sous chefs there. Those guys who are going to
- 1:18:58Speaker 1: be barbecuing by the time they're like middle schoo Well,
- 1:19:00Speaker 1: they'll be doing whole hogs, no question, they'll be.
- 1:19:02Speaker 2: Doing whole hogs.
- 1:19:03Speaker 1: He got them working, They got their own aprons, and
- 1:19:04Speaker 1: they're probably making the little side things there and just fantastic. Yeah,
- 1:19:09Speaker 1: that's how I saw him. I saw him one little
- 1:19:12Speaker 1: one dude had a trophy when I was walking. I
- 1:19:13Speaker 1: was just walking in front of the football stadium and
- 1:19:15Speaker 1: they the two boys and he were walking and he
- 1:19:18Speaker 1: had an aluminum pan of barbecue. This is seven thirty
- 1:19:22Speaker 1: in the morning, and he says, Tony, big three guys, listener,
- 1:19:26Speaker 1: I want to just try this barbecue.
- 1:19:28Speaker 3: Wait a minute, Wait a minute. Wait, So they knew
- 1:19:30Speaker 3: you were walking.
- 1:19:31Speaker 1: There, and I don't think so. I think he was
- 1:19:33Speaker 1: bringing it somewhere at the same time, simultaneous simultaneous passage.
- 1:19:40Speaker 2: What barbecue synchronicity?
- 1:19:41Speaker 1: If he did new if he didn't know that, I
- 1:19:44Speaker 1: was going to be walking at that time. Now I'm
- 1:19:46Speaker 1: scared because that would be stalking, right, that would be.
- 1:19:49Speaker 2: A good I didn't have any he declined.
- 1:19:52Speaker 1: I just had taken something where I can't put anything
- 1:19:55Speaker 1: on top of that that at that hour. Oh, now
- 1:19:58Speaker 1: he comes back about three clock in the afternoon, they're
- 1:20:02Speaker 1: gonna be gonna be sparks coming off that styrofoam. I'll
- 1:20:04Speaker 1: tell you that dog gone much those chicken drumsticks, Like
- 1:20:08Speaker 1: I seriously, I could. I could spin that baby out
- 1:20:12Speaker 1: there and I'll be like a bone.
- 1:20:15Speaker 2: Stand. What's it called dog bite Barbecue?
- 1:20:18Speaker 1: Correct? Dog Bite Barbecue. Check them out on their Facebook page.
- 1:20:21Speaker 1: So if he's bodies with Luke darn now that means
- 1:20:23Speaker 1: like super high level. Yeah, all right, as I get,
- 1:20:29Speaker 1: as I gather our stuff here, I'm hoping there's any
- 1:20:31Speaker 1: nothing that I didn't do. We are coming back on Monday.
- 1:20:37Speaker 1: We will have President Benson, Vice President A d Reren
- 1:20:41Speaker 1: Baker with us in the studio. Look forward to having
- 1:20:43Speaker 1: those guys on there. That's always a good hoot. We'll
- 1:20:46Speaker 1: have next Thursday, we'll come back in and we'll do
- 1:20:50Speaker 1: a minimum of three more over unders. Okay, So when
- 1:20:55Speaker 1: we're back here next Thursday, that's day two next week,
- 1:20:59Speaker 1: can we do more? I can't do Thursday. Excuse me?
- 1:21:02Speaker 2: What I gotta be somewhere.
- 1:21:04Speaker 1: No, dude, let me tell you something about you. Let
- 1:21:06Speaker 1: me tell you somethingoy you and your schedule. Ronnie retired,
- 1:21:10Speaker 1: you're on less. I mean you're you're not committed to
- 1:21:13Speaker 1: this show. It's obviously you're trying to separate. This is
- 1:21:16Speaker 1: exactly what happened with the Beatles. This is your Lennon.
- 1:21:19Speaker 1: I don't know where Yoko is, but you're pulling this.
- 1:21:22Speaker 1: When pulling this group part, you turn your mic off.
- 1:21:26Speaker 2: Go ahead, you're around Wednesday. I'm around Wednesday. All right,
- 1:21:28Speaker 2: we'll talk.
- 1:21:29Speaker 1: Might do wednesday.
- 1:21:30Speaker 2: I got you. I got seriously, I got to do
- 1:21:32Speaker 2: something on Thursday.
- 1:21:33Speaker 1: That's fine.
- 1:21:34Speaker 2: Well, so do we We got to record a show.
- 1:21:36Speaker 2: I understand.
- 1:21:37Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I retirement has turned out to be pretty
- 1:21:40Speaker 3: busy for me.
- 1:21:42Speaker 1: Seriously, that I'm not man.
- 1:21:45Speaker 3: I'm managing retirement like Brad manages his food intake.
- 1:21:48Speaker 1: Poorly, not good. Yeah, all right, Michael, we'll talk.
- 1:21:51Speaker 2: I like you there for over under. Oh I want
- 1:21:54Speaker 2: I want to be there.
- 1:21:55Speaker 1: I don't know why you hate the show.
- 1:21:56Speaker 2: I love the show.
- 1:21:57Speaker 1: Three Guys before the Game your number, episode number six
- 1:22:03Speaker 1: and forty nine. So next time we come on, like
- 1:22:06Speaker 1: on Monday, we probably have more details on that show
- 1:22:08Speaker 1: we're going to do Thursdays before.
- 1:22:11Speaker 2: On that, we might have more details on the food
- 1:22:13Speaker 2: court that's actually in place. That it might be nice
- 1:22:15Speaker 2: if you start telling people so they can plan for
- 1:22:17Speaker 2: that that is actually confirmed and known, rather than something
- 1:22:20Speaker 2: that is not confirmed yet exactly right, Yes, wouldn't that
- 1:22:23Speaker 2: be pr and promotion one on one talk about the
- 1:22:26Speaker 2: things you know are happening. Yes?
- 1:22:28Speaker 1: Absolutely, Well, I think people know the food Court's going
- 1:22:30Speaker 1: to happen Fridays and Saturdays. What they didn't know is
- 1:22:32Speaker 1: we're going to do live shows Thursdays.
- 1:22:34Speaker 2: First of all, that right out of the gate is
- 1:22:36Speaker 2: in that, and that's not totally accurate. There's already a
- 1:22:39Speaker 2: change to that that has been voiced to you that
- 1:22:41Speaker 2: you continue to pass over, and so you're already inaccurate.
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- 1:23:31Speaker 1: our producer, doctor Jake and Jumping Jack was back there
- 1:23:36Speaker 1: as well.
- 1:23:36Speaker 2: Running out of days with jackets done.
- 1:23:38Speaker 1: Man graduated, then then we are going to kidnap him.
- 1:23:40Speaker 2: And all growed up.
- 1:23:42Speaker 1: Keep him here, that's what we're going to do. All right,
- 1:23:44Speaker 1: We're out, stay well, keep up to nears three guys
- 1:23:48Speaker 1: before the game. Over and out
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