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Ross Fulton Analysis: How Chip Kelly Attacked The Oregon Defense · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning for Saturday, October nineteenth. I'm
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  Speaker 1: your host, Tom Moore. The Nebraska game is in seven days.
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  Speaker 1: time we had Ross on the show and we talked
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  Speaker 1: about the Ohio State defense, I am guessing most of
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  Speaker 1: our audience did not have an extremely good time watching
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  Speaker 1: that show. Today we're talking about the performance of the
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State offense against Oregon that went quite a bit
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  Speaker 1: better than the defense did. We're going to start Ross
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  Speaker 1: with the run game, some of the things that worked well,
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  Speaker 1: some of the things that didn't work well, because there
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  Speaker 1: was sort of a mixed bag on offense. What was
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  Speaker 1: it that worked, you know, I guess let's start with
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  Speaker 1: the first one. We're going to start with duo windback.
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  Speaker 1: This is something we've talked about before. I took about
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  Speaker 1: winebackup at times in the past. But how did this
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  Speaker 1: work against the organ ducts?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say overall it was a pretty strong
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  Speaker 2: offensive performance. I mean, I think there were three punts,
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  Speaker 2: and if I'm remembering correctly, it was one was when
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  Speaker 2: Trey Henderson had the first down and seemingly gave it
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  Speaker 2: up to go sideways. One was when Will Howard fumbled
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  Speaker 2: the snap on third and short, and then I think
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  Speaker 2: the third one was also because of self inflicted winds.
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  Speaker 2: So Ohio State moved the ball pretty well. One thing
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  Speaker 2: that I you know, was apparent was that Chip Kelly
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  Speaker 2: was looking for different ways in the run game to
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  Speaker 2: run this duo concept. I grabed this one because it
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  Speaker 2: was it was interesting. We could talk about short yardage
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  Speaker 2: as well. But duo is basically down blocking without a
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  Speaker 2: polar So it's power without a polar, right, So you're
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  Speaker 2: trying to get down blocks. The running back isn't going
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  Speaker 2: to read the Mike linebacker, so in this clip number
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  Speaker 2: thirty and if he comes inside the running backs in
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  Speaker 2: a balance you're trying to make the mic wrong. I
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  Speaker 2: think that Chip Kelly and Ryan Day were running these
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  Speaker 2: variations of duo quite a bit because of the number
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  Speaker 2: of odd fronts that organ uses, so you're trying to
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  Speaker 2: get blocked down and get to the C gap this is.
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  Speaker 2: On this one, they ran a couple of times wind back,
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  Speaker 2: which is it's duo essentially, but the running backs giving
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  Speaker 2: you kind of a counteraction like you can see here
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  Speaker 2: quinch On Junkins steps to the left, to the right,
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  Speaker 2: comes back to the left.
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  Speaker 3: They ran wind back as well.
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  Speaker 2: Unfortunately on the Judkins fumble, that was a situation where
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  Speaker 2: the both guards got beat and the defensive tackles were
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  Speaker 2: right in Judkins's lap before he could do anything. So
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  Speaker 2: that's obviously how not to run the football well. But
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  Speaker 2: this one they added another element to it, which is
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  Speaker 2: this double bonus. So you're basically getting two polers with
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  Speaker 2: the wide receivers, you know, including uh bringing walk On
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  Speaker 2: into the game to get sort of the extra size
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  Speaker 2: body in there, and so they're going to kind of
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  Speaker 2: come around. So they're coming everyone's blocking all the way down,
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  Speaker 2: both receivers are coming around you know, getting enough of
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  Speaker 2: the Mike Libacker to free this up. This was a
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  Speaker 2: I think like a third and three play. Ohio State
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  Speaker 2: again was very good in short yardage and goal line situations,
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  Speaker 2: for all the concern about that in the past. We
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  Speaker 2: obviously see this play here. You saw, like a couple
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  Speaker 2: of times, the use of the full house backfield, the
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  Speaker 2: T formation with a the lead block. So it was
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  Speaker 2: basically a down g play where Donovan Jackson would pull
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  Speaker 2: on a short kick and lead left to run the
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  Speaker 2: ball left between behind the two lead blockers. So different
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  Speaker 2: variety again in these sort of short yardage situations.
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  Speaker 3: But yes, lots of duo.
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  Speaker 2: I mean the downside of this kind of play, and
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  Speaker 2: this maybe gets into the you know, yardage play or
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  Speaker 2: explosiveness or lack there in the run game.
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  Speaker 3: Is duo is not?
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  Speaker 2: I do not personally think at least the best designed
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  Speaker 2: to get the ball in space. Because you got a
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  Speaker 2: lot of bodies in there, right, you're trying to get
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  Speaker 2: all these down blocks. It tends to be more of
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  Speaker 2: a short yardage play and you don't the formationally, it
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  Speaker 2: kind of is a giveaway a lot of times, like
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  Speaker 2: you can see this super tight set that Ohio state
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  Speaker 2: motion into here. A lot of times you'll see duo
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  Speaker 2: run from a tight bunch to that side of the formation.
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  Speaker 2: That's kind of another giveaway, and you can play action
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  Speaker 2: off of it to that. But you got you got
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  Speaker 2: a lot of bodies inside, so you know, it was
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  Speaker 2: an interesting choice.
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  Speaker 3: I guess to focus that heavily on this kind of play.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, as I said, I think it was a response
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  Speaker 2: there to Oregon's use to off fronds.
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  Speaker 1: All right, the next one something It has typically been
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  Speaker 1: a giveaway that OHIOSI is going to run the ball.
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  Speaker 1: They're running out of the pistol. That's been obviously a
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  Speaker 1: little bit less of a tell this year than it
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  Speaker 1: has been in the past. In this case, they were
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  Speaker 1: running it and this was a very successful run, the
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  Speaker 1: really long trevy on Henderson run. If you're listening to this,
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  Speaker 1: I'm wondering which player we're talking about, that's the one.
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  Speaker 2: This is Yeah, Ohios ran this twice back to back
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  Speaker 2: on this drive for two big Henderson runs. The key
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  Speaker 2: was that they caught Oregon here playing cover two. As
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  Speaker 2: a general matter, Oregon was like many teams trying to do.
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  Speaker 2: They were trying to be in one high looks when
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  Speaker 2: they thought Ohio State was going to run the football
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  Speaker 2: and they were in too high split safety either cover two,
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  Speaker 2: cover four combination of that, like we've talked about quarter
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  Speaker 2: quarter a half like cover four to one side and
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  Speaker 2: cover two to the other. When they thought they were
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  Speaker 2: going to pass, Ohio State caught them here. So as
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  Speaker 2: you can see on this play, you know, it's just
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  Speaker 2: a simple pistol inside zone like we talked about against Iowa,
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  Speaker 2: where Will Howard's opening up to the backside, so you
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  Speaker 2: have the relief bubble threats, so you get you know,
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  Speaker 2: a cover two. The concept there, as you can see
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  Speaker 2: at the top, is to have a triangle right, so
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  Speaker 2: you want three three defenders over two receivers.
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  Speaker 3: So they have that there.
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  Speaker 2: The nickel kind of tries to apply late, but he
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  Speaker 2: has to respect the relief threat and so then it's
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  Speaker 2: just Henderson against this safety coming down hill. You got
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  Speaker 2: a man lock with the corner on the backside, and
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  Speaker 2: so back to back times Henderson made that safety miss
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  Speaker 2: and partially highlight this play because a lot of discussion
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  Speaker 2: of why they Ohio State have more rushing years of
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  Speaker 2: the second half, and we're going to get to that,
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  Speaker 2: but in the first half. At least they were able
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  Speaker 2: to catch Oregon sometimes in these two high looks and
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  Speaker 2: take advantage of it.
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  Speaker 1: All right. The next one, this was another successful one.
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  Speaker 1: This is a Mecca Abuka. In the run game, they
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  Speaker 1: seemed like they were doing doing some creative things with him.
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  Speaker 1: This was yo yo motion, which is something we have
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  Speaker 1: seen at times in the past, but not a ton
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  Speaker 1: And then this, this is in a Mecca booka handoff that
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  Speaker 1: worked out and turned into a pretty nice play.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean one quibble I would have.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, I don't have as much nearly as many schematic
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  Speaker 2: complaints about the offense against Orgon as I do with
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  Speaker 2: the defense. I think one thing that I kind of
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  Speaker 2: felt was wanting was getting the football to the outside.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't run the cracked toss play that's been really
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  Speaker 2: successful or the speed option. Again, that kind of goes
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  Speaker 2: to my point about duo, like there's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: insight into your run game. Maybe they you know, I
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  Speaker 2: am sure, in they're scouting they felt like that was
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  Speaker 2: the best way to go. You saw outside zone a
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  Speaker 2: couple of times, but that still isn't really designed to
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  Speaker 2: get the football out in space, and that partially I
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  Speaker 2: think explained some of the lack of explosiveness from the
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  Speaker 2: run game. But you know, they did use different concepts.
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  Speaker 2: So like they did run power Read a couple of times,
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  Speaker 2: which is you're running power but instead of blocking out,
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  Speaker 2: you're the quarterbacks reading the defender and either hands off
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  Speaker 2: on a sweep or runs inside, which will Howard you
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  Speaker 2: have follows the polar a couple of times on that,
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  Speaker 2: and then you did this, and so you know, obviously
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  Speaker 2: a big focus was as well getting the ball to
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  Speaker 2: your two playmakers Jeremiah Smith and a Mecca a Buka
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  Speaker 2: And so here, as you said, creative way to do
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  Speaker 2: it right, you're faking sort of running them out. You're
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  Speaker 2: shifting first of all to begin with, and you're getting
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  Speaker 2: this split back. Look, they gave the split back a
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  Speaker 2: few times to run power Read as well. You bring
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  Speaker 2: it back in motion and this is just lead outside zone.
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  Speaker 2: So you're just getting another blocker now and quinch On
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  Speaker 2: chukins at the point of attack. Everyone's zone blocking. It's
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  Speaker 2: a nice job by g Scott, just riding his man out.
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  Speaker 2: And so I don't want to give the impression that
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  Speaker 2: there wasn't any diversity in the run game. I just
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  Speaker 2: thought that at times, as I said, maybe there could
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  Speaker 2: have been opportunities to try to get the football outside
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  Speaker 2: in the run game in hindsight.
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  Speaker 1: All right, you mentioned earlier that we were going to
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  Speaker 1: get to why the run game stopped working in the
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  Speaker 1: second half. I think this is where that's going to happen,
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  Speaker 1: So adjust your emotions accordingly. Let's talk about the inside
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  Speaker 1: zone read.
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  Speaker 2: Look here, Yeah, I even struggle to say it didn't
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  Speaker 2: stop working. I don't think they relied upon it a lot,
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  Speaker 2: and I think there are reasons for that. They were
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  Speaker 2: passing the ball very successfully. They only had four possessions
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  Speaker 2: in the second half, one of which there were obviously
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  Speaker 2: the two minute drill, so there weren't just a lot
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  Speaker 2: of opportunities in general. This drive, though, stood out to me,
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  Speaker 2: so they got the They were up twenty twenty two
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  Speaker 2: at this point. It was the second drive of the
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  Speaker 2: second half. If I recall correctly, they go back to
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  Speaker 2: back times running zone read, and this is a true read.
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  Speaker 2: You'll see here there's no reliefs attached. The wide receivers
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  Speaker 2: are blocking that on this one. They used an unbalanced formation,
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  Speaker 2: so you have like a four by zero, right, So
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  Speaker 2: Jeremiah Smith is covered up trying to I'm sure, get
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  Speaker 2: Oregon to over commit to that side of the field.
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  Speaker 2: And on the one hand, I can see why Will
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  Speaker 2: Howard didn't pull it here. He back to back place
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  Speaker 2: he gave on the handoff instead of keeping you know,
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  Speaker 2: you have three over three and so I'm assuming he's
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  Speaker 2: reading the outside linebacker or maybe the nickel who stays
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  Speaker 2: or but on the other end, there's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: green grass here and if he's reading the backside linebacker
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  Speaker 2: like he did against Iowa, they should have.
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  Speaker 3: Been a deep read.
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  Speaker 2: Oregon obviously, in response to this three over three, they
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  Speaker 2: bring a corner blitz, they bring the safety down aggressively.
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  Speaker 2: There's just not a lot of numbers. So next play
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  Speaker 2: they run the same thing. It's a different look from Oregon,
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  Speaker 2: but similar issues. So I think that's where Ohio was
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  Speaker 2: in like third or two or third and three. That's
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  Speaker 2: where Will Howard dropped the snap. Again, I'd say these
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  Speaker 2: are minor quibbles. In hindsight, I would say maybe could
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  Speaker 2: have been trying to go for the throat there a
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  Speaker 2: little bit more up six, But I just thought that
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  Speaker 2: the you know, there's a lot of me and maybe
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  Speaker 2: the thought was we're gonna get Will Howard in space
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  Speaker 2: right here with three blockers. It just did not seem
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  Speaker 2: like either Oregon muddy the reads for him or it
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  Speaker 2: didn't come off exactly as they wanted. And so I
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  Speaker 2: just thought in the second half that the run game
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  Speaker 2: it really just kind of took a back seat in general,
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  Speaker 2: although it still served its purpose, as I'll show a
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  Speaker 2: couple of times here on play action and reliefs. You know,
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  Speaker 2: there was one where sorry, like you know, a couple
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  Speaker 2: of reliefs they hit a second level RPO on another
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  Speaker 2: glance route again, and so you know those are extensions
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  Speaker 2: of the run game.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned the past game worked pretty well. Will
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  Speaker 1: Howard completed eighty percent of his passes more than three
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  Speaker 1: hundred yards two touchdowns. I mean, that was a pretty
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  Speaker 1: pretty good day through the air for him. Let's start
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  Speaker 1: with the first one You've got here is a fake
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  Speaker 1: that sets up a tight end delay scene. So this
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  Speaker 1: is you know, this was a long reception by g Scott. Again,
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  Speaker 1: if you're just listening and you're wondering which player they're
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  Speaker 1: talking about, this was the long pass by g Scott
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  Speaker 1: that got him down into the red zone.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and so again, the first thing I would note
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  Speaker 2: is that this is in some ways an extension of
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  Speaker 2: the run game, right, because you're faking outside zone with
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  Speaker 2: an out screen to the side, and the earlier in
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  Speaker 2: the game, Organs Apex or overhand player, whatever you want
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  Speaker 2: to call him, the guy over the responsible over the
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  Speaker 2: number two receiver jumped a couple of Ohio States relief plays.
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  Speaker 2: That was one of the other drives where they punted.
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  Speaker 2: I should say, is they threw a tunnel screen that
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  Speaker 2: got stopped, and they threw a relief and that got
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  Speaker 2: stopped because they were jumping them aggressively. And then there
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  Speaker 2: was a couple of false starts in there as well.
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  Speaker 2: And so here he jumps the relief right, and so
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  Speaker 2: that opens up this seam down the middle. I was
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  Speaker 2: talking about organ a lot of split safety coverages. They
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  Speaker 2: were a lot of either cover two or cover four mixes, right,
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  Speaker 2: and you're trying to get but these cover two looks,
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  Speaker 2: unless you're running Tampa with a pull a deep middle guy,
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  Speaker 2: you have this seam in the middle of the field.
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  Speaker 2: And so, as I said, g Scott, at least shows
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  Speaker 2: that he's trying to get his outside zone steps to
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  Speaker 2: begin with. You're seeing this quite a bit in the
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  Speaker 2: NFL as well. And then he releases up the seam
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  Speaker 2: and so the you know, Will Howard is first looking
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  Speaker 2: at Jeremiah Smith to the boundary. Uh, but Oregon uh
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  Speaker 2: and Cover two they carry that receiver or Cover four,
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  Speaker 2: but that opens up this big hole in the middle.
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  Speaker 2: And so, you know, all game it was looking for
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  Speaker 2: different ways to get to a few concepts, and this
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  Speaker 2: three is three verticals.
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  Speaker 3: Once you look at the bottom there as well.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, you know, so against the cover to Cover two
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  Speaker 2: or split safeties, you're basically trying to get three receivers
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  Speaker 2: against their two deep safeties. And this was one of
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  Speaker 2: the ways they did it off the run game.
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  Speaker 1: Well, here's another look at three verticals. Everyone always thinks
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  Speaker 1: of four verts. That's the famous air raid concept three
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  Speaker 1: verticals that this worked again in in the next one.
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  Speaker 1: This was the a Mecca Abuka touchdown the reception that
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  Speaker 1: he had.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I say, yeah, so you'd like to run four
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  Speaker 2: verticals against Cover three because you get four on three,
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  Speaker 2: and three verticals against Cover two because you get three
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  Speaker 2: on two. So this is a this is a really
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  Speaker 2: nice design. Again, So the concept, right of a cover
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  Speaker 2: four or cover two is you want to be plus
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  Speaker 2: one to the receiver side. Ohio State is in trips
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  Speaker 2: here and a common cover four trips check which this
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  Speaker 2: is a cover four look is against trips. As you
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  Speaker 2: play like the saving, people call it stubby, it's called
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  Speaker 2: special sometimes. Basically, all it means is you're going to
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  Speaker 2: play man demand on the outside number one receiver, and
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  Speaker 2: then inside of that you're going to play essentially cover
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  Speaker 2: two on the two and three receivers. So the guy's
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  Speaker 2: playing the flat, you have someone over the top, and
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  Speaker 2: Ohio State with this look just messes with those reads.
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  Speaker 2: Again give the run fake right, So again that apex
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  Speaker 2: defender between g Scott and a Mecca Buka, he's drawn
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  Speaker 2: to the run fake and he we talked about the
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  Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel run thread. He also has responsibility here if
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  Speaker 2: this is his own read play right. So when we
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  Speaker 2: talk about the run game, it has multiple impacts. But
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  Speaker 2: so as I said, like assuming this is stubby, like
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  Speaker 2: that corn the outside has Jeremiah Smith one on one
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  Speaker 2: or excuse me, Colonel Tape and so he carries the
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  Speaker 2: problem with that though, is they switch right. So nowa
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  Speaker 2: Buca becomes the outside receiver and so either the cornerback
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  Speaker 2: and safety need to switch or that safety has a
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  Speaker 2: really tough job getting over the top. And you can
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  Speaker 2: also see they organ bust the coverage because g Scott's
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  Speaker 2: also wide open down the seam again on the clip.
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  Speaker 2: But this is a great throw and ball from Will Howard.
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  Speaker 2: They ran these kind of wheel routes to a Mecca
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  Speaker 2: buka a few different situations, and he dropped in the
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  Speaker 2: bucket each time. In fact, they tried to set up
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  Speaker 2: again the second to last play of the game and
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  Speaker 2: well when they actually had a BUCA and Will Howard's
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  Speaker 2: arm was hit on that play if if people recall otherwise,
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  Speaker 2: that could have been a completion of sort of one
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  Speaker 2: of those many what ifs on that last drive. But
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  Speaker 2: all game they had a few key concept that they
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  Speaker 2: were using against these split safety looks. You know, whether
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  Speaker 2: it's this wheel route to three verticals or you know
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  Speaker 2: the next concept I'll show with a sort of the
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  Speaker 2: smash in double digs.
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  Speaker 1: All right, well, let's get right through these smash in
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  Speaker 1: double dicks. This is a spoke concept. I know that
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  Speaker 1: because it says so in the notes. Ross walk us
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  Speaker 1: through these smoke concept you talked about except against the
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  Speaker 1: Tampa defense earlier, and this is going up against the
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  Speaker 1: Tampa defense, but this also ends up working.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know why Ryan Day has called it
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: smoke or spoke.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: Excuse me.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: The long story short, it just is basically putting like
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: a smash or China concept to one side, which is
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: just like a corner route with a flat route, so
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: you get like the vertical stretch to one side, and
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: then with these like two digs to the other side,
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: which creates a horizontal stretch. So right, like Ryan Day
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: likes to use the term, as you say, you run
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: away from man coverage and you find the holes and
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: stretch stone coverage, and so they have ways to do that, right,
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: and so they ran this a lot. Again you're getting
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: this is a Tampa two look from Oregon. And so
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: again that the Tampa two right where you drop the
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: whole defenders design to take away those chief Scott the
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: middle of the field throws. Like I showed earlier, Oregon
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: has a nice disguise here, like this is similar to
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: what Michigan has done a lot against how I state
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: the last few years where they show single high and
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: then they're going to drop to a non traditional Tampa.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: It just means you're like bringing different guy. Instead of
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: having your two safeties as your two deep defenders, here
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: they're dropping one nickel as the deep defender, the other
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: safeties the pole runner in the middle. But this is
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: a good concept designed for Cover two, like a smash
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: is a quintessential Cover two beater because you're getting you know,
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: you have a squat corner to the number seven to
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: the boundary, and you're stretching him vertically right, so he
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: has to worry both about that flat route coming from
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: the running back and then Jeremiah Smith in the corner,
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: and then you're trying to hold the backside safeties with
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: those two dig routes. This was another This was a
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: big third and seven throw here. Will Howard had a
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: number of big third and long conversions where Ohio s
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: was in known pass situations that I thought he handled
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: really well. The other thing to note about this play
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: we can talk about is down at the bottom, Oregon
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: runs a eat stunt, which is end first, then the
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: tackle loops around, as opposed to a tech tech stunt,
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: which is where the tackle goes first then the end
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: you put the the first letter of whoever's going first first.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: But anyways, obviously Ohio States lost Josh Simmons. They did
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: a lot to protect Zen in the in the past
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: game at left tackle, like you saw quite a few
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: six and seven man protections where they could full slide
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: the line or slide down and get a tight end,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: you know, blocking down. But Oregon threw a lot at them,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: like as opposed to the problems we talked about with
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Ohio State not moving up front, Oregon was constantly slanting
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: and stunting. That played into obviously Derek Carmon's strengths, Like
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: he was a load all game for the Ohio State
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: right guards to deal with. That was even maybe more
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: of an issue than the play at left tackle, just
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: because of how disruptive he was, and he blew up
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: a few plays himself. As I said, the fumble, there's
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: another pass play on third down before the field goal
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: in the red zone. But here you know they're in
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: a five man protection and so Zen does not have
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: a lot of help. You know, he gets beat eventually
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: by Harmon. You'll note that they put they're sending Harmon
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: right at him right on this stunt, Like that's the
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: and he he gets beat eventually, but he holds on
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: long enough for Will Howard to complete the pass.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: And so I would say in.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Terms of reviewing, you know, the three quarters or so
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: he played, as I said, they did a lot to
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: protect him.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: You know, I think he held up adequately.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: As I said, I think, if anything, right guard was
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: maybe more of an issue in this game than left tackle.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: That being said, obviously, Ohio State moved the football throughout,
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: so none of it was detrimental to the point of,
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: you know, short circuiting what they wanted to do offensively,
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: all right, And.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: So they were right in that game right until the
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: very last play, and that is what we're going to
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: be looking at here. Ran They talked about it kind
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: of a flood concept where they tried to tried to
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: get a bunch of guys to the same side of field. Actually,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Jeremiah Smith kind of running across the middle of the field,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: and you wonder if Will Howard had thrown that he
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: might have been able to get down. And but as
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: that is not how that played out. But what were
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: they trying to do here on that last play.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Of the game. Yeah, so on the last drive again,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: saw a lot of the same concepts that we saw
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: throughout the game. As I mentioned right, so like the
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: wheel to a BUCA. You saw them run smash several
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: a couple of times. This is basically like a souped
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: up version of smash or you might call it a
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: flood concept or a sale concept where you got three guys.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: But essentially ABUCA is on the corner route from this
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: tight bunch stet and I mean I think he's open.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: Personally, I mean, I think that throw is there.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: I get why Ryan Dane will Howard did not want
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: to settle for I know people point out what Brandon
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: in this is open. I mean I personally don't trust
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Ohio State in that situation to make a fifty plus
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: yard field goal. I don't trust any college kicker really
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: to do that. I think that's one of the main
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: differences between the college and NFL. You know, ABUKA would
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: put them inside the fifteen, which I think is where
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: they would want to be, you know, the first down,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: and then you have time with the clock. Unfortunately, again,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: like as I said, right guard, right at the moment
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: that Will Howard's ready to throw, the defensive tackle flashes
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: just enough to take him off a spot and you
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: know he's ready to pull the trigger and that's why
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: he scrambles. They're just a lot of missopportunities on that
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: last drive. A couple of times, you know, Oregon was
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: playing sort of they switched it back and forth between
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: like they're playing cover two there.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: But some man concepts.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: A couple of times he had Travon Henderson sitting wide
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: open in the flat, didn't get to him, maybe most
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: notably the.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: First play of that series where he slipped.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure there was anyone within forty yards of
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Travion Henderson on one side of the field. You know,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: obviously the offensive pass interference, the twelve men. I mean,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: there was a series of you know, what ifs there.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: I think it was again, I think it showed the
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: effectiveness of the Ohio State passing game throughout the day that,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: knowing they had to pass and in a first or
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: second and twenty hole, they were able to dig themselves
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: out of it and get to where they were just
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: hitting those some of these core concepts. As I said
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: that we talked about against split safety coverage. But I
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: think again it's sort of a what if game, and
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: you know, mistakes and iously, both teams have mistakes, but
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: a couple of you know, ill timed drop snap, ill
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: time slip, you know, ill time, not just getting past
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: protection holding it out for half a second longer, as
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: you said, makes you makes you wonder what if they
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: could have gotten the kickoff. But I guess that's that's
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: how it goes when it's that close of a game
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: on the road.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, definitely a game that went down to the
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: very very fine details and the bounces here and the
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: bounces there. Probably not the last time we will get
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: a chance to see Ohio stated in Oregon Play. This
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: season certainly seems like there's at least a decent possibility
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: we will get Part two and potentially even Part three.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: I will just I will put my hand up, sign
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: me up. I will take another one of those games
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: right now. The first one was fantastic. Second one could
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: be even better with even more on the line. So
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• 24:08
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