Latest / The Cryptid Huntress / A Shapeshifter & Sasquatch with Bigfoot Field Researcher Tony Green

Transcript

A Shapeshifter & Sasquatch with Bigfoot Field Researcher Tony Green · The Cryptid Huntress

• 0:04
  Bye, Well, good evening, everybody. Welcome to on the Hunt here
• 0:53
  on the Cryptied Hunters Channel. I'm so excited you guys are here tonight.
• 0:58
  I just got home from the World UFO Conference today. What a fantastic conference.
• 1:06
  Wow. We had a great turnout. That place was packed from wall
• 1:08
  to wall today up in Clayton, Georgia, and it was fantastic, y'all.
• 1:15
  I gave a presentation and I had some of my teammates that showed up
• 1:19
  today and a ton of people. I want to thank everybody who showed up
• 1:23
  to that conference today from far and wide, Okay, Greg, Greg showed
• 1:27
  up. Man from Kentucky. Okay, I met a lady that lives on
• 1:32
  the same road that I grew up on today, all right, from my
• 1:34
  hometown. All sorts of cool people were there today, including, like I
• 1:38
  said, my teammates. Okay, I had Matthew del there. David Pardu
• 1:44
  showed up, y'all remember him from our shows, and my good friend Don
• 1:47
  Tart as well. So it was a wonderful time. Thanks again, y'all.
• 1:51
  All right, well, I have another one of my teammates, okay,
• 1:55
  somebody who I go out bigfooting with pretty often. Here in the studio
• 2:00
  tonight, we have Tony Green here in the studio. You guys are gonna
• 2:04
  love Tony. I mentioned his story a couple of times about his shape shifting
• 2:08
  uncle. Okay, that ran in the backyard. It might have turned into
• 2:13
  a dog, but we're gonna talk about that tonight. It's such a cool
• 2:15
  story. I can't wait to get into it tonight. So if you guys
• 2:20
  would like to follow along with all of my shows and everything that I'm doing
• 2:23
  and up to right now, please go to my website. That's the Cryptidhuntress
• 2:27
  dot com. My calendar of events is there the conferences that I will be
• 2:32
  at, including I do have the Full Disclosure Now Conference coming up. Okay,
• 2:38
  that's actually my next event now and my next public event at least down
• 2:44
  in Florida. That's July the fifteenth through the eighteenth. I will be speaking
• 2:47
  there and giving a full gigantic presentation at that conference, so y'all please come
• 2:53
  see me there. And I am also slated to be at the Appalachia Star
• 2:59
  Seed Reunion that's coming up in August, and then I will be at the
• 3:04
  East Tennessee Squatch Out that's gonna be in September and that's with Manimal Research.
• 3:08
  If you guys know Wayne, that's his event, and we're going to have
• 3:14
  a really good time doing some big footing out in the woods at Sasquatch Farms.
• 3:17
  All right, so okay, well let's get to our show tonight.
• 3:23
  Okay. Oh. I also want to thank everybody who is a member of
• 3:25
  my Patreon, and I want to thank all my channel members. And if
• 3:29
  you guys would like to support my channel, become a member of my Patreon.
• 3:32
  And also you can visit my shop that's called war Woman Goods. Everything's
• 3:36
  on sale right now. Okay, I'm trying to fundraise for all these trips.
• 3:39
  I gotta go on, So you guys go and and I do send
• 3:43
  out free merch with purchases. Okay, well Cryptid Hunters merch. Speaking of
• 3:46
  merch, I got some cool alien earrings today at the conference. I'm so
• 3:51
  excited about them. But you guys go to my website to my Etsy shop
• 3:55
  too, and you can find some merch. And yes, I am fun
• 4:00
  for all these events that I'm going to, and I even have somewhere I'm
• 4:02
  going next week. I'm going dog Man hunting. Great, you'll hear about
• 4:06
  that next week. But let's get to our show, y'all. Okay,
• 4:10
  So I am Tony Green in the studio tonight. Tony came into the field
• 4:15
  of bigfoot research around nineteen eighty eight. He was brought into the organization known
• 4:19
  as the Georgia Bigfoot Research and Investigation where grgb R I for short. He's
• 4:27
  had two Bigfoot sightings and has seen quite a few tracks. With twenty three
• 4:31
  or more years experience in the field, Tony always remains calm under pressure,
• 4:36
  which is one of his foretastes. He's got a lot of foetastes. Man,
• 4:39
  Tony's awesome. He takes a biblical and scientific approach to bigfoot research.
• 4:46
  He's a member of the North Georgia Cryptid Researchers. That's on my team.
• 4:50
  Okay, so please help me. Welcome to the show, my good friend,
• 4:54
  Tony Green. Tell how are y'all doing? Tony. I'm so excited
• 5:00
  to have you here. I just love talking with you, and you have
• 5:05
  way more befoot experience than I do too. When it comes to the extended
• 5:10
  amount of time you have spent in the field since the nineteen eighties, Man,
• 5:15
  I was I was still in school back in the nineteen eighties. Okay,
• 5:17
  I was the youngen back then, but yeah, you're like, you're
• 5:23
  one of the OG's on our team that's been doing this research for a long
• 5:27
  time. What guys, you got to it. It's good to be here.
• 5:32
  Thank you. It's always an exciting to chat it up with you.
• 5:36
  And when we're out in the field we often chat it up too. But
• 5:41
  we got me started. Was convenience store at night, working third shift,
• 5:47
  and for well, for all my life, I always believe in Bigfoot,
• 5:53
  you know, always there was always a never uh, never a doubt at
• 6:00
  something like that could be. You know, I've growing up. I watched
• 6:03
  The Move, the I watched Boggy Creek. Of course. My favorite movie
• 6:12
  is The Creature from Black Lake. Then Now in Search of As a and
• 6:17
  as a kid, I was watching, you know, on Sidney Marty,
• 6:21
  the Sydney Marty Cross Super Show. I've watched that show, Bigfoot and wild
• 6:25
  Boy. So I was always interested in Bigfoot. That was never a thing
• 6:32
  with me growing up. So fast forward to you know, eighty seven,
• 6:38
  between eighty seven eighty nine, I was working in the convenience store called Hotspot,
• 6:43
  and I worked third shift and back then, you know, you didn't
• 6:48
  have traffic like you do. Back then, you had pretty much after midnight,
• 6:53
  everybody was in the house. Every there was nobody just riding around except
• 6:57
  for you know, a couple of my friends that I'm at that at that
• 7:00
  store. But when they would come by, it'd be no more than about
• 7:03
  six seven of us and some of the some of the police officers would come
• 7:06
  and hang out with us, and we would talk about the paranormal. We
• 7:10
  would talk about ghosts, we would talk about bigfoot, lockness, monster,
• 7:14
  aliens, all of the paranormal things that we that we pretty much are researching
• 7:20
  now. We would be discussing these things. And one of the one of
• 7:25
  the things that drew them to come into the store to talk to me about
• 7:29
  stuff was now, I'm a black man that listens to heavy metal. So
• 7:34
  they would come in and they would hear like Metallica, Slayer, Anthrax or
• 7:41
  something like that plan and they would it would it would stir up a conversation,
• 7:45
  and so that's how a lot of you know, I saw, I
• 7:48
  met a lot of people. And so we'd be in there talking and stuff,
• 7:54
  and we got on the subject of bigfoot, and you know what,
• 7:57
  could it be what was it doing? You know, Patterson footage and one
• 8:03
  of the guys there, he had a friend that was the head of the
• 8:07
  gb R I. So he asked me if he can bring him up to
• 8:13
  you know, fill us in on all the big the real all the bigfoot
• 8:16
  stuff. So I was like, yeah, bring him on up there.
• 8:18
  So he comes up and over the course of time, you know, he's
• 8:22
  you know, he didn't give us all of the information at once in one
• 8:28
  night. It was over the course of time to where you know it was.
• 8:33
  It was. It was really interesting to say the least. And me
• 8:37
  and him became friends. I would you know, I started going down his
• 8:41
  house and on he had you know, back in the day you had computers,
• 8:45
  but they had a little floppy disc thing. So he would put in
• 8:48
  the floppy disk and he would, you know, show me the different uh
• 8:54
  pictures that they had, footprints and stuff like that, and just really going
• 8:58
  over all this uff that they did. And he asked me if I wanted
• 9:01
  to go. I was like, nope, I don't need to go.
• 9:05
  There's no reason for me to go. I already believe it. I don't
• 9:07
  have to prove anything. So there were two other guys that were gung ho
• 9:16
  about going, so they'd be trying to talk me into going because I just
• 9:20
  I felt like this at the time he's there. I don't have to I'm
• 9:26
  not trying to prove anything to anybody. I know it's there, so y'all
• 9:31
  can go on in the woods if you want to. So time goes on,
• 9:35
  and I think that this was this. You know, by the time
• 9:39
  that they were going to go on a trip, this was in when this
• 9:46
  is taking place in June of at June or eighty nine, I believe it
• 9:50
  is, And the expedition was planned for October. So this whole time,
• 10:00
  I'm they're trying to talk me into going, like you you'll love it to
• 10:03
  be this, that and the other. So I said, okay, I'll
• 10:05
  go if these other two go. So okay, So I go and I
• 10:09
  get. I get the stuff that I need and everything, because I had
• 10:13
  the only the last time I've been camping was in the Boy Scouts, so
• 10:16
  I had no tents, I had nothing, so I would you know,
• 10:20
  I got all my stuff and it comes time to go, and the other
• 10:24
  two drop out, so I'm up there by myself. So I go.
• 10:31
  I go with the uh with the team leader and everything, and he's telling
• 10:37
  me, you know, he's showing me, you know, basically what the
• 10:39
  things you need to do and all that. So that kind of even that
• 10:43
  broke me into camping and literally everything. It's just so you know, you
• 10:48
  know, one of the first things that I you know, you know,
• 10:52
  uh he they kind of showed me I do was make sure you gather your
• 10:54
  firewood and I went. I literally went through like a boy scout type scenario
• 11:01
  with going into bigfooting out all together, camping, bigfooting, guns, all
• 11:07
  of that was in once uh fell swoop through this foot team. So that's
• 11:13
  how I got started in it. After going that first time, I was
• 11:20
  I was hooked. It was, yeah, we gotta go. This is
• 11:24
  this is fun here, this is really fun. And I think it was
• 11:30
  my second night, I want to say as my second night we were going
• 11:35
  out. At the time, I did not have a gun. Actually,
• 11:37
  at the time, I was afraid of guns so to speak. I had
• 11:39
  a fear of just a loud bang of the guns and stuff. So I
• 11:43
  didn't have a gun. I had a little machete and so now I wasn't
• 11:48
  afraid to go out with them. Because I was wanting to Now I'm wanting
• 11:50
  to really see one. I'm wanting to see one to get let me see
• 11:54
  something. Now. So we're going out and about fifty yards ahead of me
• 12:00
  as a guy and he's got his rifle. In about fifty yards behind is
• 12:01
  another guy and they got their rifle, and I'm in the middle and we're
• 12:05
  walking up this fire road and all I hear is duck boom boom, a
• 12:15
  dang mountain lion coming down the hill like charging me. And they shot at
• 12:20
  it and it went back up the hill. And it was from that point,
• 12:24
  honestly, I've never coming up here again without a gun now. So
• 12:28
  that's what that and that whole episode got me into got me into guns.
• 12:33
  So that is how I got started in the field. And another thing back
• 12:39
  then, you know, it's weird to me. I don't want to say
• 12:43
  it's weird. It's more or less fascinating how there is so much technology in
• 12:50
  the field now. When when I started, it was pretty you just had
• 12:54
  your flashlight, you know, and those who had a gun had a gun.
• 12:58
  You had your flashlight. Uh. And on the on the high end
• 13:03
  of things, you have binoculars. So that was pretty much all you had.
• 13:09
  You know, when you're when you're going when you're going out there,
• 13:11
  there was no flears, there was no night vision, nothing like that.
• 13:16
  What we would do when we go out at night is we would get out
• 13:20
  so far away from camp and then we'd cut the flashlights off and kind of
• 13:24
  just sit in the dark and let your eyes get adjusted and then begin begin
• 13:31
  to walk. And you know, you'd see shadows and stuff from time to
• 13:35
  time, but for the most part, you know, that's where the calmness
• 13:41
  comes when the when the pressure gets going, That's where I learned how to
• 13:46
  just like man, if I if you know, I'm out here now,
• 13:50
  so I ain't no need to kind of be scared now. I'm out here.
• 13:52
  If it if it snatches me up, I'm just snatched up. You
• 13:56
  know. The one thing that you know, another thing that keep we come
• 14:00
  too funny is the Albert Osman story where he got snagged up and they took
• 14:07
  him to where they were and they kept it and do nothing with him.
• 14:11
  They just kept it, you know, So I'm like, okay, so
• 14:13
  everything and do nothing to him. They're not gonna too much, do nothing
• 14:16
  to me, and we're gonna try to talk talk ourselves out of this thing.
• 14:18
  If at last hope not. Yeah, yeah, you're gonna pray that
• 14:22
  nothing, you know, nothing snagged you. Like what was I think he
• 14:26
  was in a sleeping bag. He said he woke up to being tossed over
• 14:31
  something shoulder and like a gunny sack or like a potato sack. And Carrie
• 14:35
  for hours, can you imagine that? Always said, you know, there's
• 14:43
  no way I'm bigfoot researching in the hammock. It's not going to happen.
• 14:46
  Oh oh, tony, Okay, So I'm actually going on a dog man
• 14:52
  hunt or let's just say expedition. I'm going to say expedition. That's not
• 14:56
  really what we're doing. But we're going. We're going, We're in the
• 14:58
  middle of it. We're dog men are out. Uh. I can't say
• 15:01
  where. I'll tell you, I'll show because there's a couple of people who
• 15:05
  know where I'm going. Okay, Uh, but we're going and uh and
• 15:09
  we're big whacking. Okay, We're gonna be big bid whacking. Like I'm
• 15:13
  actually taking a hammock setup for the first time in the deep woods, Like
• 15:18
  we're hiking in for my several miles and we're going to be gone for a
• 15:22
  while. I'm like multiple nights. Okay, so this is uh and and
• 15:26
  it's like once you get out there, might as well. I mean,
• 15:28
  there's no point being scared, you know, there's no point. Nothing we
• 15:31
  can do it. I'm not getting out of there in the middle of the
• 15:33
  night. If if worse comes to worst, we're we're gonna have to honker
• 15:37
  down. Yeah, okay, We're down. I know that feeling, and
• 15:41
  it's it's I got that like kind of sinking feeling in my stomach. And
• 15:45
  when I really sit down and think about it, like what am I doing
• 15:48
  with dog Man? I can handle the big foots, but we got a
• 15:50
  dog Man expedition coming up now. One of the things that in doing this
• 15:56
  type of research is that I've learned really is and if you can't trust your
• 16:03
  teammates, you know, you need to take a step back because this stuff
• 16:10
  is dangerous. It can be even apart from Bigfoot or dog Man, you
• 16:17
  still have wild animals that will eat you out there, and you have to
• 16:22
  just you know, rely on your teammates. I know, you know.
• 16:26
  I've never researched the dog Man, although I would love to do that.
• 16:30
  I would love come with me. You're invited going, man, you would,
• 16:37
  you'd fit right in. I would really love to do because I've never
• 16:41
  never researched the dog manber. I think that's that's that's going to be on
• 16:44
  the cards. I'm taking one for the team on this one that yeah,
• 16:53
  we're we're doing a dangerous thing. You know. Fortunately, every creature that
• 17:00
  I've run into, like I said, I've run into, I've had two
• 17:03
  chased, one, one walked out on me. I've never had any aggression
• 17:07
  towards me, never had any aggression. When they would come around the camp
• 17:14
  and circle the camp and stuff like that, they would you know, it
• 17:17
  was more of a playful thing to where they would throw stuff in the fire,
• 17:21
  make the fire go booth when they're ignored. Now, we've had people
• 17:26
  on our team that were real skittish, and you know, you'd have to
• 17:30
  like just calm down, just just calm down this. You can't be all
• 17:36
  you can't be skittish because you'll kill somebody being scared, especially if you've got
• 17:38
  a gun all. You know, you got to just just calm down.
• 17:42
  But yep, that's why we have to trust each other on our team and
• 17:48
  I mean, we repeat repeatedly said on our on our teams like, I
• 17:52
  mean, we would lay down our lives for each other if you have you
• 17:56
  have to be willing to do that. We're in the situations and you have
• 17:59
  to keep your brand, your mind's right, you have to keep your mind
• 18:03
  right. You have to be calm. You have to be cool, cool
• 18:06
  and collected, Calm, cool and collected. You're You're the coolest and the
• 18:10
  calmest of everybody there was. I had one instance where there was there was
• 18:15
  We had a guy that he thought he was getting attacked and we were on
• 18:21
  the same fire road and we were we were This was the first time we
• 18:26
  had night vision. We had a team come down from New York and they
• 18:30
  brought some of their equipment and they had two those small night vision cameras,
• 18:34
  and he had one monocular that was like at the time, a third generation
• 18:38
  monocular where if you look through it, it lit up. It made everything
• 18:42
  look like it was daylight at dark. So this and this was the first
• 18:47
  time that we didn't leave anybody in camp. Everybody was out. So we're
• 18:52
  about a good one hundred yards away from camp in both directions, and the
• 18:59
  team he was with but the monocular his uh, one of the one of
• 19:03
  the night vision camera batteries went down on so he was like, you know,
• 19:07
  I'll just walk back to camp and get the other battery. No big
• 19:11
  deal. Okay, we're not over only one hundred yards outside of the camp,
• 19:15
  so there's really, you know, no big deal. And we're on
• 19:17
  a on a fire road walking. He starts back up the trail and he
• 19:23
  comes over the radio. I see it. I see it. I see
• 19:27
  it, and you can his voice was quivering. Now from where he was
• 19:34
  in the road and where this thing was standing couldn't have been no more than
• 19:41
  about twenty to twenty five feet away from each other. Now that the thing
• 19:48
  that the sasquatch did not realize that the team member could see it, because
• 19:56
  he, like I said, he's got this generation three night vision monocular.
• 20:02
  So he's he's on the radio and it's he says, it's it's standing there.
• 20:06
  He says, I don't I don't know what to do. I don't
• 20:07
  know what it's going to do. So I take off running towards him,
• 20:12
  and in my mind, I'm going to tackle this thing because I'm thinking it's
• 20:21
  going trying to attack my teammates. So I'm trying to you know, I'm
• 20:23
  trying to save him. So I come barreling down down this road and I
• 20:30
  get to where I can see him pointing towards it. And as he's pointing
• 20:34
  towards it, it goes into a relaxed position, and that's when all the
• 20:38
  bulk and stuff came out, and he he in his mind he thought it
• 20:44
  was trying to attack him. So I'm I'm just bolting down through that.
• 20:48
  I'm like, I'm gonna have to tackle this thing. I'm going to have
• 20:52
  to hit this thing. And so I and I'm trying to. I'm gaining
• 20:55
  speed to hit it, and he's still pointing where it's at, so I'm
• 21:00
  going in that direction. And by this time the other teammates coming up and
• 21:06
  we get to the edge of the ravine where it had it had backed up
• 21:08
  and went off the ravine, and we were like, okay, do you
• 21:12
  want to go down here after it? Because all we we didn't have our
• 21:15
  flashlight. All we had was a little night vision gobbled the little night vision
• 21:21
  things, and you couldn't see because we've been looking and looking through those things
• 21:23
  all night. So you can hear them running around down there, and then
• 21:30
  they stop, and then we would get quiet, and then you just didn't
• 21:34
  hear nothing. And then we would like press toward like we were going to
• 21:38
  go, and you'd hear him back off a little bit. It's like,
• 21:41
  man, do you do you do you want to go down there? Let's
• 21:44
  let's let's go like that. But it was a drop. It's like,
• 21:48
  man, we can't because we got we got our teammate here. He's he's
• 21:52
  he's he's down, literally, he's down. It shook him up so bad
• 21:57
  that he was in tears. He was sitting on the ground, you know,
• 22:03
  breathing heavy, and it shook him up. And this is he like
• 22:08
  I said he was. He he was from New York. He researchs paranormal
• 22:15
  So I mean it's it's not like, you know, he was just somebody
• 22:21
  just up there research. He was a researcher. He hung the ghosts and
• 22:23
  spirits and demons and have encountered all that. But when he encountered that that
• 22:29
  sasquatch that close, it shook him up. Well, I can only imagine
• 22:37
  absolutely. Uh. That sounds like a pretty exciting moment, like pretty exciting.
• 22:42
  And I mean, did you feel threatened at all or were you just
• 22:47
  you're waiting. I've never felt threatened. Never. The only time I don't
• 22:55
  even I don't. The only time I felt a threat is we were we
• 23:00
  were we were at the same location and we were going down the ravine that
• 23:04
  we all right, So where we were we was on this we were on
• 23:07
  this place called in this place called Taylor's Ridge. It's up in North Georgia
• 23:12
  and in the in the in the ravine down there is a place called Jenkins
• 23:18
  Gap. So and it how you got down there, you know, it
• 23:22
  walked down and it's back and forth down the down the mountain. So we
• 23:27
  get into the second round, the second curve, and I hear this tree.
• 23:36
  It ain't no wind, uh, And so I looked. I looked
• 23:41
  at my partner. I said that was a tree. He's like yeah.
• 23:48
  And then I pulled my gun and said, no, we're not dealing with
• 23:51
  this today. And I pulled my gun and I said, let's let's go
• 23:55
  down there and see what's Let's let's see what's down there. So we know,
• 24:02
  we walked down to the tree and we get to the tree and you
• 24:07
  can see it was just it appeared to look appeared to be pushed over.
• 24:15
  And now we're talking a tree. It was a It was a tree,
• 24:18
  you know. And we're looking we're looking around the tree for footprints, not
• 24:25
  seeing any footprints or nothing. He's sitting on one in the tree, I'm
• 24:29
  sitting on the other in the tree, and we're just trying to listen to
• 24:33
  see if we hear anything walking away. And as we're sitting there, we
• 24:40
  hear like that, and I looked at him. He looked at me,
• 24:47
  like, did you hear that? He's like, yeah, I said,
• 24:49
  now, it sounded like it was right next to my ear when it did
• 24:53
  that, And he said, the strange thing is it sounded the same way
• 24:59
  to him, But we didn't see nothing. We didn't hear nothing walk away.
• 25:03
  We didn't hear nothing walk up on us. Nothing. So that now,
• 25:10
  that was the only time I've ever felt any kind of I need to
• 25:12
  pull my gun situation. But any other time, like if never felt threatened
• 25:21
  at all. Yeah, we we generally don't pull our guns out. I'm
• 25:25
  not saying I'm not saying everybody carries one, okay, but to be safe
• 25:30
  in the woods, I mean I I sometimes do, okay, sometimes do
• 25:33
  or maybe always do, okay, but sometimes I do and uh, and
• 25:37
  it's for safety purposes one hundred percent. But we're pretty much advised not to
• 25:44
  ever shoot at anything, right Tony, because first of all, there's severe
• 25:48
  retribution that could potentially happen. Okay, you're probably not going to make it
• 25:52
  out of there alive either, right if you pull the trigger, right,
• 25:57
  you got it? You have you have. You have to be aware of
• 26:03
  your surroundings, like for anything. I used to tell this one guy,
• 26:08
  I told I told this one guy. I said, listen, because I
• 26:11
  had a five hundred magnum at the time. I said, I'm gonna go
• 26:15
  down and I'm a camp in Jenkins gap. I said, now, yeah,
• 26:19
  I was going to do that by myself. I said, Now,
• 26:22
  if you hear me shoot, I said, now, here's gonna be It's
• 26:26
  gonna be two things gonna happen. I said. One, there's gonna be
• 26:30
  an awful lot of evidence left behind. I said, so go down there
• 26:33
  and get it. I said. Two, I might not be coming back.
• 26:37
  But I said, now, on the other hand, if I get
• 26:41
  down there by myself and you hear me talking and some heavy footsteps coming up
• 26:48
  behind me, don't shoot I'm bringing him in because I'm gonna talk him into
• 26:52
  following me. And I used to cut up like that, like cause I
• 26:56
  just I never, like I said, I never felt that tree following was
• 27:00
  the only thing that I felt. This thing is trying to stir up some
• 27:06
  but like shooting, like like shooting in that I believe this that and in
• 27:11
  some cases it doesn't work. I've seen reports where people have shot in the
• 27:15
  air and they just look at like they're crazy. So yeah, well see,
• 27:22
  and that that's the thing. Like I I'm really particular, like I
• 27:26
  don't go out in the woods with anybody that's not on my team. Okay,
• 27:30
  our teammates, people that I trust, and I know now, I
• 27:33
  did a field investigation with a group of a team of guys who I had
• 27:37
  not met in person before, but they all have you know, military backgrounds,
• 27:41
  most of you. And I'm you know, I did that that skin
• 27:45
  Walker Cave investigation with these guys. Shout out to drewski Man, Drew and
• 27:48
  all the cryptive warfare operators there. We're all going out to this investigation together,
• 27:53
  okay soon, and but anyways, we did we did that investigation.
• 27:57
  You know, it's important, you know, exactly how people operate. Okay,
• 28:03
  you know, you get the operations order together, you go out and
• 28:07
  do you know, to test the waters together. We tested the waters at
• 28:11
  this place, at that Skinwalker Cave before, and I think we don't pretty
• 28:15
  much trust each other pretty well so far. And I wouldn't go out there
• 28:19
  with them, otherwise they wouldn't have me go with them. You know,
• 28:22
  that's important. None of us are trigger happy. Let's just say. Yeah,
• 28:27
  and really, and when you're doing this kind of research, now,
• 28:30
  I understand, you know, having a gun is because the having the gun
• 28:34
  really is for the other animals, not necessarily for it's for it's for the
• 28:40
  other animals, and it's really to scare them off more than anything, because
• 28:45
  you know, but I've never that was the only time i've in all since
• 28:49
  eighty nine, that's the only time I've ever pulled out my gun was when
• 28:53
  I heard that tree fall. I was like, I was like, well,
• 28:57
  you know, I didn't know what the expect when I heard that tree
• 29:00
  fall, but I knew I was going toward that tree fall, you know,
• 29:03
  because that's the same area, that's the same area that I chased that
• 29:07
  one. You know, that's that's the same you're ready to tackle a because
• 29:18
  I mean, all right, so you know the reason I was ready to
• 29:22
  tackle it because I felt, you know, I'm looking out for my teammate
• 29:26
  this. You know, if if if I felt that you were in danger
• 29:30
  and something's coming at you, I'm going to do what I can to try
• 29:33
  to distract it, to keep it off of you. So that's why I
• 29:37
  was trying. I was going, I was going to I was going to
• 29:40
  do what I can to tackle it. Now far as chasing one, like
• 29:44
  if let's say, if we're up there, okay, and where wherever we
• 29:48
  are, we're doing some big footing, okay, and I see one,
• 29:56
  I'm going, I'm going in that direction where he's at. I'm going,
• 30:00
  I'm if I see one walking just just doing it, I'm calling where it's
• 30:03
  at, you know, because that's what we're there for, to get evidence.
• 30:08
  I'm going to do. Go I'm look, I'm I'm gonna try to
• 30:12
  talk to it, just to see. I canna tell you real quick.
• 30:17
  That just reminded me of this video of a guy who was swimming in a
• 30:21
  river and in a crocodile swim up behind him and he's trying to swim back
• 30:26
  to the bank, and his buddy was on the bank. And as he's
• 30:30
  swimming by swimming to the bank, his buddy just does a DDT on this
• 30:33
  crocodile, okay, like jumps on it and elbows in the water. And
• 30:37
  I was like, man, that's true devotional friendship right there. I mean,
• 30:42
  that is a best that's that's not just a friend, that's a best
• 30:45
  friend, right yeah, yeah, And that that reminds me of kind of
• 30:48
  what you were, what you would have done that, Yeah, exactly exactly,
• 30:53
  because I mean, you know, we're up there and all we have
• 30:57
  is each other when we're up there, and you know, I felt like
• 31:03
  the way he come over that radio, it was like he was going to
• 31:07
  be attacked. And the only thing, the only thing I can know,
• 31:11
  the only thing that in my mind that I could do, was to tackle
• 31:15
  this thing. You know. Now, I know if I if I had
• 31:18
  come up on it and will to hit it like like like I'm in a
• 31:22
  football game, it probably would have knocked me clear. You know, I'd
• 31:26
  still be flying somewhere. But the place where I chased it at Chase One,
• 31:33
  at I was with uh there. We would always go out two to
• 31:37
  two to three people at a time. And this was this was in daylight.
• 31:41
  So we're down there in Jenkins Gap. We're just we're we're we're We're
• 31:47
  probably about two hundred two hundred yards away from where that tree fell. Now
• 31:51
  this is this is this happened before that tree fall, when that This happened
• 31:56
  when I chased it. So, yeah, Daryl in the chat by the
• 32:00
  way, here's another one of our teammates. Good to see you, Daryl.
• 32:07
  I jump and a biffoot okay. And but we're down there, we're
• 32:15
  down there in that in that Jenkins Gap area, and I just happened,
• 32:20
  you know, we're walking and looking and I just happened to see this black
• 32:22
  thing take off. So I took off after it, and you can see
• 32:29
  it kind of like going through trees and and everything, and I'm trying to
• 32:32
  keep up with it, and it was it was it was pacing me.
• 32:36
  It wasn't. It didn't because if I'm sure, if it wanted to,
• 32:38
  it would have outraned me, clean out ran me. But it didn't.
• 32:42
  It kept like pacing me and the other two people. I don't know what
• 32:47
  happened to them. When I got back to camp. They were back at
• 32:50
  camp. And when what made me stop was I didn't see it no more.
• 32:58
  And when I really I didn't see it no more, I stopped and
• 33:00
  it was just definitely quiet. There was no sound, there was no nothing.
• 33:07
  All I had at the time was a single shot shotgun with sixteen sixteen
• 33:10
  gage shotgun with bird shot. It's all I had had it for snakes,
• 33:15
  and I just hauled out. Listen, I'm not running no more. I'm
• 33:24
  going back to camp. If you decide to follow me, that's fine,
• 33:30
  but I'm not running. I'm going to back away and I'm gonna walk back
• 33:34
  to camp. And I slowly backed away, and I walked back to camp,
• 33:39
  and you can hear them on each side, just like slowly like walking
• 33:46
  with me until I got about a good one hundred yards away from camp,
• 33:52
  and then they stopped. Oh wow, Okay, you have nerves of still,
• 33:57
  by the way, nerves of still. You're like, I am not
• 34:00
  running, I am walking. And yeah, you're like David. David Pardue
• 34:06
  just said he keeps his trusty nail clippers on him just in case a guver
• 34:12
  of the big crew. Yeah, that is to just wild. Well,
• 34:17
  you know what, I saw a patch Okay, there is a patch.
• 34:21
  You know, you get patches like bill Crow patches to put on your paths
• 34:23
  and your clothes and your hats. One of them said, I'm too fat
• 34:28
  to run. It's like, I'm just gonna shoot. I'm out of shape,
• 34:36
  get out of shape, because I'll get winded. Because you know,
• 34:37
  if I would, let's say I was to just be freaked out and ran
• 34:42
  back to camp, I had to run up a mountain and I couldn't and
• 34:46
  then they want Then on top of that, you know, you always hear
• 34:50
  this, if you run, animal will chase you. So there's there's these
• 34:52
  things in the back of your head, you know. So I'm just I'm
• 34:55
  not I'm not running, I'm just yeah. You do you think, Tony,
• 35:00
  that sometimes the cryptids out there, be it Bigfoot or dog Man,
• 35:04
  whatever kind of cryptids we're dealing with out there, Do you think that they
• 35:07
  just want to scare us and not hurt us. They just want to scare
• 35:09
  us so that we'll get out of there in some instances, Absolutely, and
• 35:15
  absolutely, and I think they they You know, a dog, friends,
• 35:22
  let's take a dog. A simple dog can tell if a person means any
• 35:27
  harm or something you know. So I think it's the same thing with the
• 35:30
  sisquatch. If you're like down there neandering around and you don't got a clue
• 35:35
  what's going on, and you just they can tell that you're this dude's lost.
• 35:38
  I think they can tell that they and you won't see or hear anything.
• 35:43
  You know, you hear people all the time talk about, well,
• 35:45
  I've been in the woods for so many years, I hadn't seen heard nothing
• 35:49
  because they didn't want you to, you know, simple they they they're not
• 35:53
  threatened by you. I think a dog man would be more or have more
• 36:00
  of regression towards that to where if you get in its territory, it's not
• 36:07
  only going to try to frighten you out of there, it could do damage,
• 36:13
  you know, on some levels. But yeah, absolutely, I do
• 36:17
  believe that if if if you're in their territory and they don't want you there,
• 36:22
  they their aggression will be to get you out of there. Oh yeah.
• 36:28
  And that's extreme on an extreme level, because some with a with a
• 36:31
  sasquatch, what they'll do, what I what I believe they'll do, is
• 36:38
  they'll make noises to get you out of there. And it's funny because they'll
• 36:44
  make if a person is not a researcher. And this is the little nuances
• 36:49
  that I've learned over the years, just off of hearing reports and hearing people
• 36:52
  talk about researchers don't get nothing. We barely get anything. We're out looking.
• 37:00
  It barely happens. But let somebody that ain't got a clue be out
• 37:06
  there in the woods just making hamburgers or something, and these things literally will
• 37:10
  walk up to them and make all kind of get all kind do all kind
• 37:15
  of stuff. And but if a researcher go out there do the same thing,
• 37:21
  he might hear a twig snap. Yeah, exactly. I know.
• 37:28
  It's usually when we're when we're back at the campfire, okay, because you
• 37:30
  know, Bob, Bob always got a lot of the activity back at base
• 37:35
  camp. We were all because we usually have one man, that one person,
• 37:38
  that man's base camp with all our radios, right, and while the
• 37:40
  rest of us will go out at night and we'll break off into teams and
• 37:45
  we do our thing out in the field, and then all the actions usually
• 37:47
  back at base camp all the time. Yeah, And it's almost it's almost
• 37:52
  kind of I'm not gonna say it's annoying because I caught onto it and I
• 37:55
  started staying back at base camp with Bob okay, because that's where the action
• 38:01
  happened. So it's actually a little bit more fun a little it's a little
• 38:05
  creepy too, when everybody's gone, and because that's that's when you're not really
• 38:09
  paying attention. You're thinking all the people are, all the action is going
• 38:13
  to be out in the field, but yet it's right there, it's in
• 38:16
  the base camp. Here's the thing, too, is it always it's always
• 38:22
  all right? So let me put it, it's always in base camp because
• 38:28
  I just think when we go out, how do they know to come in
• 38:32
  when we when we go out if they're not already there. So I believe
• 38:38
  they're already there. When when when it starts getting dusk and we start settling
• 38:44
  in and and doing doing the planning, that's when I believe that they come
• 38:50
  and they and they watch and observe, you know, because they're they're thinking
• 38:54
  we're not. They're not we're not paying them any attention, in which we're
• 38:58
  not because we're you know, we're focused on what we're going to do tonight.
• 39:01
  We're going to go out and and and you know, explore where they're
• 39:07
  they're they're there, and I'm pretty sure a lot of times we walk right
• 39:10
  by. Oh yeah, we do. When we get a distance away,
• 39:15
  they come right to camp and then they'll start doing their circle you know,
• 39:22
  throws. So yep, I had a gigantic rock that fell at my feet
• 39:28
  one night around a campfire from across the creek. So that happens now Tony.
• 39:32
  There's a couple of people asking about talking about whistling. Whistling in the
• 39:37
  woods. Is that something I've always been told to not whistle in the woods
• 39:40
  at night? Have you heard that? What do you think about whistle?
• 39:43
  I've heard that, but you know, I don't know. I do believe.
• 39:49
  I do know. Sasquats do whistle. They do have a whistle.
• 39:53
  And you when they whistle, you actually hear the air and and I wish
• 40:00
  I could replicate it, but I can't. But you hear the air along
• 40:04
  with the whistle and it and they can and it can it can be like
• 40:09
  it'll it can be in ways where it's you know, and then and then
• 40:15
  sometimes it'll have a cadence, you know. Now we have you know,
• 40:22
  try to whistle in the woods to to see if we've got a response that
• 40:28
  we we that's never happened. But I do do know of reports of just
• 40:32
  of whistling. Now we don't know, you know, we don't know if
• 40:37
  it's there whistling to locate one another, if it's a whistle to distract,
• 40:42
  if it's a whistle to you know, we don't know. But yeah,
• 40:46
  they do, they do whistle. Yeah dude, Okay, Boo the Bagel.
• 40:52
  By the way, I want to thank everybody for the superstickers. I
• 40:54
  see you guys. I didn't want to break up the conversation that uh that
• 41:00
  Tony and I are having, so thank you to Boo the Beagle okay,
• 41:02
  and to Mareen the Girl and her gong. I want to date Long Island
• 41:06
  Bigfoot for being a member for four months. Thank you so much of being
• 41:08
  a channel member, t Bone, Thank you for the Superstiger and Reverend Cosmic
• 41:13
  Joe chronicles. Thank you so much. Y'all. Y'all support me as the
• 41:15
  world fam me. I appreciate it. But yeah, do the beagles do?
• 41:22
  Do good manners matter to Bigfoot? What do you think because some researchers
• 41:25
  are rude rather than they kind of want to be what do you call it,
• 41:31
  like where you want to like make them come out like you're rude,
• 41:35
  kind of like Zach Began's does on Ghost Adventures. Yeah. Yeah, Now
• 41:42
  taunting, I think like this, Okay, you're dealing with with a with
• 41:45
  a with a creature with a bigfoot or any other animal. You taunted,
• 41:50
  bad things happen. Yeah, you taunted, doll to what happens? You
• 41:54
  know, bad bad things happen. And I believe that in the same thing
• 41:59
  with the if you get out there and you start taunting a thing, that
• 42:01
  bad things happen. I do believe good manners or put it this way,
• 42:07
  respect matters. You know you you respect it, It's gonna respect you.
• 42:15
  That's I really I feel that way. I try to show them the utmost
• 42:21
  respect. You know, I go in their territory. I'm not gonna be
• 42:24
  out there making calls and all that. And if something, if I start
• 42:29
  hearing stuff, I'm gonna start talking to it, just to you know,
• 42:34
  just to see. I carry that with me. So and that might be
• 42:39
  why. You know, I've been researching for a while, but I've only
• 42:43
  seen two so it ain't like I've had a lot of sighting so to speak.
• 42:47
  I've seen shadows from time to time, and you know, I believe
• 42:51
  that was them going between trees and stuff like that. But I do think
• 42:55
  being nice. Being nice was a long way in any in any with anything.
• 43:00
  It does. Yeah, I mean I try to have I try to
• 43:05
  be diplomatic with people, even you know, I'm watching this chat, go
• 43:09
  by. We've got a great chat tonight, by the way, So for
• 43:13
  the most part, everybody's been very diplomatic, very nice. So thank you
• 43:15
  guys. Everybody's on their best behavior tonight. I appreciate that. But yeah,
• 43:21
  I try to be diplomatic. And you know, I've worked in politics,
• 43:23
  Tony for almost twenty years, Okay, so I know I know how
• 43:28
  that works. And being nice can get you a long way, right,
• 43:30
  you can get you a long way. But just we have to be aware
• 43:35
  of what we're dealing with too, be more what you're dealing with. So
• 43:38
  you but you you've had such a long history of high strangeness and even in
• 43:44
  your family potentially, and you know what I'm going with this, okay,
• 43:47
  because I talk about this experience that you told me about pretty often, okay,
• 43:53
  and uh and you know what you like I said, you know,
• 43:55
  what I'm talking about. You told me a story about I believe it was
• 43:59
  your uncle. Can we talk about that? Yeah, okay, so about
• 44:06
  it. Growing up, my dad would would tell us stories about his family,
• 44:12
  things that they did, and there was a lot of for a lack
• 44:17
  of better terms, dark dark arcs that went on. So in this one
• 44:23
  instance, I think my dad at the time, he was probably in his
• 44:29
  teens, early teens, thirteen, fourteen years old, and this would have
• 44:32
  been around the nineteen fifties, maybe the early sixties, uh in Alabama.
• 44:44
  And he said the he said his his his uncle or yeah, I think
• 44:52
  it was his uncle. It was his uncle that you know, dealt with
• 44:55
  what they call roots and stuff, and he had done something that got in
• 45:00
  trouble with the law. And the police pulled up to the front of the
• 45:05
  house. And he said, as he was in the yard and he saw
• 45:09
  his he saw when the police pulled up, he saw his uncle walk out
• 45:14
  the house, walk across the yard, walked to this tree. And when
• 45:20
  he come when instead of his uncle coming out from behind the tree, this
• 45:23
  dog come from behind the tree and went on and the police. When the
• 45:30
  police left, the doll came back from this from the way he came,
• 45:37
  came back, got to the tree, and then his uncle came out from
• 45:42
  behind the tree and went into the house. Now I couldn't tell you if
• 45:52
  he shape shifted became part of the tree. I don't. I don't know
• 45:55
  because my dad didn't really give any other details other than that. And when
• 46:01
  my when my dad would ask my uncle about that, he would say that
• 46:06
  that's not your business, boy, leave that alone, don't worry about it,
• 46:10
  and and go on. But and my dad he would always tell us
• 46:15
  story different stories about different things regarding I want to say just it was voodoo.
• 46:22
  He called it root working. So that's what he that's what he would
• 46:27
  call it. So he there was a lot of delvin and dabbling. He
• 46:30
  never did it, but he would just tell the stories of family members didn't
• 46:37
  doing it. Now. He he would see he would see ghosts. He
• 46:43
  would he would see ghosts as clear as I'm looking at you. And you
• 46:50
  know, he it was to the point where we would be sitting out there
• 46:52
  on the porch and like this is this is this is the mid seventies.
• 46:59
  Now we'd be snapped on the porch and he would say, move out the
• 47:02
  way. Let that man come through and there'd be nobody there and you would
• 47:09
  move and you would you know, because you're sitting we're sitting on the wooden
• 47:13
  steps, and you would feel the impressions on the steps and we we'd be
• 47:20
  like, we, you know, be looking like what the what? What?
• 47:23
  What was that? He goes, ain't boy, don't worry. But
• 47:25
  that's your uncle, that's your aunt. They're they're they're they're just going home.
• 47:31
  They'll be fine. You'll be fine. They're not gonna let nothing bother
• 47:34
  you. And that's how that's that was his view of it. That's how
• 47:38
  that's how me and my sisters grew up like like that. So it wasn't
• 47:43
  so Bigfoot wasn't hard to believe in well Tony. Do you think that that
• 47:47
  is having that background and having your family being open to the paranormal and to
• 47:53
  potentially just magic and voodoo and things like that, you think that that that
• 47:59
  kind of got you interested as a kid. I mean, you were you
• 48:01
  were just naturally open to the paranormal and you had a natural interest in kryptis
• 48:06
  because of that. That's a that's a possibility because it as far as my
• 48:10
  childhood goes and stuff like that, there was no separation. You know.
• 48:19
  That's that's all we that's you know, we we've heard like that, that
• 48:22
  story I just told you. Me and my sisters heard that story hundreds of
• 48:27
  times, you know, hundreds of times just sitting out just you know,
• 48:31
  talking about different things. So and it's a it's quite the possibility, you
• 48:37
  know, I'm not going to rule it out. You know, when I
• 48:42
  first seen Boggy Creek, it was with my dad. You know, when
• 48:45
  I first seen the creature from Black Lake, it was sitting up on Saturday
• 48:47
  night with my dad. You know, Godzilla movies, sitting up with my
• 48:52
  dad. You know, we've on Saturday nights. That was that was the
• 48:55
  thing, you know, just watching. And he never would say he he
• 49:02
  would he never would say, uh, this is fake or that's phoney.
• 49:08
  He he would say he'd say something like, well, that's why you don't
• 49:13
  live in the woods at night, never know what's out there. He would
• 49:15
  say stuff like that, So what if your dad thing think about Sam Squatch
• 49:21
  and big Foot. He he didn't never really elaborate on it. He just
• 49:24
  he just would say. He would say, that's why you don't go out
• 49:27
  in the woods at night, like that's that's that's that was his that was
• 49:30
  his thing. He and well, when I when I got into it,
• 49:38
  okay, because he was still living at the time when I when I got
• 49:42
  into it and I told him about it, he he said, uh,
• 49:47
  well, I'm trying to think of how you put that. He said something
• 49:52
  like, okay, where you're gonna be so if you don't come back,
• 49:57
  I know I know where to go. Looking like that, he you know,
• 50:04
  he wasn't against it. He was not. He didn't keep me from
• 50:07
  exploring, so to speak. He didn't think I was crazy. He didn't.
• 50:14
  He didn't think we were crazy. You know. Personally, I think
• 50:16
  he believed in it. He just never said I believe in Bigfoot, you
• 50:20
  know, he never come out and just said that. But he would.
• 50:23
  He supported me. He actually bought my stuff to go, you know.
• 50:27
  So yep, so that sounds encouraging though, Like so he was encouraging.
• 50:35
  I guess by supporting you that way, that's wonderful. I mean, I
• 50:38
  think it's important that you know, a lot of people don't have a lot
• 50:40
  of the support that some of us have, you know, from our families.
• 50:45
  I think I think too that aide in my calmness, so to speak,
• 50:50
  because I got support from my mom, my dad, my sisters,
• 50:53
  my kids. You know, my oldest son, he wants to go.
• 50:58
  I just it's hard to get the schedules right. He wants to go.
• 51:01
  So there's all they might be watching tonight too, so but there there is.
• 51:08
  You know, I've always had the support system to do it, you
• 51:14
  know, to go out here to research and stuff, and I've always had
• 51:17
  that, So there's never even you know, it's even thinking back, you
• 51:23
  know, on my job when I tell people about Bigfoot, I've never got
• 51:29
  or you're crazy, or you're this, or you're that. I've never got
• 51:34
  that. You know. Now, what I do tell people, I'm not
• 51:37
  going to try to convince you. You ask me, you asked me a
• 51:40
  question. I'm gonna tell you the answer, but I'm not going to try
• 51:44
  to convince you. You know, now, if you you know, if
• 51:46
  you want to get in a discussion, we get a discussion. But my
• 51:50
  job is that if you if I wanted to convince you, you wouldn't have
• 51:53
  no questions or let me put this way, you wouldn't be asking me questions
• 51:58
  because I'm because I'd be trying too busy trying to convince you this is real
• 52:00
  and telling you why it's real and all this, that and the other.
• 52:04
  I said, but if you ask me questions, I'll tell you the answers.
• 52:06
  I'm not going to try to convince you that it's real. I'll give
• 52:09
  you an answer to make you question, you know, could it could it?
• 52:15
  Could it be true? Versus? Rather than could it not be true?
• 52:20
  And what I really appreciate about our conversations that we have is that you
• 52:22
  are a biblical scholar as well. Okay, and and you you can really
• 52:29
  connect the dots with some of the experiences, you know, some of the
• 52:34
  cryptids and stuff. How do you bring that into your research? Okay?
• 52:37
  How do you bring the biblical aspect of the paranormal of the cryptids? The
• 52:43
  high strange is all that, like, how do you combine that? Well?
• 52:47
  Thinking of like, so by the Bible itself is of supernatural origin,
• 52:52
  Okay, you look at it that way. So it's yes, it's written
• 52:57
  by man, but it's inspired by God to be written by man. Another
• 53:00
  word, God had oversight over the pinning of it and in it. You
• 53:06
  know. I like to tell people the Bible was not written to us,
• 53:08
  but it was written for us, It was written to the people. It
• 53:14
  was written to four thousand years ago. And how I understand how I interpret
• 53:19
  scripture is through the historical lens of the people back then. Okay, they
• 53:24
  had a supernatural worldview, so it was nothing to speak of angels. It
• 53:31
  was nothing to speak of fallen angels. That was part of their worldview.
• 53:37
  Everything was attributed to that, you know. And you go to the Genesis
• 53:42
  six narrative where you got fallen angels that began mating with women and producing this
• 53:47
  race of giants. And out of the giants, you know, you have
• 53:52
  this when a giant. When a giant died, its spirited the the the
• 54:00
  punishment of the of the death, the punishment of the spirit of the giant
• 54:05
  was to roam the earth seeking to inhabit. It was it's it's it's torment
• 54:10
  was roaming the earth disembodied. Okay, Therefore, in order to relieve it's
• 54:17
  torment, it's gonna seek something to inhabit, all right. The Bible also,
• 54:23
  you know, you hear in the in the Book of Ezekiel, it
• 54:25
  talks about the wheel within the wheel, and this description of this this thing
• 54:34
  that's in the sky, see I interpret that as to me, it's a
• 54:38
  throne on wheels. So if you took a throne and put wheels on it,
• 54:44
  that's what you have. That's that's a Jewish interpretation. They call it
• 54:46
  the mirk about which is the throat, which is the chariot. That God's
• 54:50
  throne becomes a chariot. So now what are people seeing in the skies?
• 54:55
  Okay? I solely believe these are fallen angels that are appearing, and their
• 55:14
  appearance has a purpose. That purpose is to deceive, and that's what that's
• 55:19
  what I believe that purpose is to deceive. Because, for example, when
• 55:23
  we go out with our equipment and me, me and me and Trey have
• 55:28
  have this discussion a lot when it comes to this, this this quantum stuff.
• 55:32
  What we're measuring is not physical. We're measuring spirits. We're we're measuring
• 55:39
  spiritual things. And something spiritual does not operate within the confines of time.
• 55:49
  It operates within the confines of eternity, which there is no confines, see
• 55:53
  what I'm saying. So when we get out here and we're asking, well,
• 55:57
  where's this thing going, Well, it's disappearing, why is it?
• 56:00
  Because it's not a physical thing. It's a spiritual thing with it's a spiritual
• 56:07
  things operating with physical properties. You see, like when that like, for
• 56:12
  example, angels, we know angels are spirit beings, but in order to
• 56:19
  cohabitate with women, they have to take upon a physical form. There's still
• 56:25
  a spirit being, but they take upon a physical form. And that's what
• 56:30
  we're seeing, you know, That's that's wholeheartedly. I believe when we're when
• 56:37
  we're talking high strange is we're not we're talking, we're describing. We're trying
• 56:42
  to put in words a spiritual reality that's happening in a physical realm. Now,
• 56:50
  I don't believe Bigfoot is a nephiline or not. I could ask this
• 56:54
  a lot too, well what is Bigfoot? And another thing is this was
• 56:58
  Bigfoot on the arc? You know, I get that. I get asked
• 57:00
  that a lot. I tell you. My answer to that is, I
• 57:05
  don't know. It's possibility. It's possibility. It could have helped no build
• 57:09
  a thing, I said, But I don't know, I said, you
• 57:12
  know, every animal, according to the script was on the arc, so
• 57:15
  by default that would tell me Bigfoot was on arc. You know. But
• 57:21
  that is how I that is how I kind of you know, you know,
• 57:28
  you know, connect the two because people are seeing these things. You
• 57:31
  know, these things are happening. You know, I'm not because because of
• 57:37
  my Christian value and the and and my understanding scripture, I'm not gonna say
• 57:40
  no, you're crazy. That can't be bull It can't be. It can
• 57:44
  be just as easy because the Old in the Old Testament, you see these
• 57:50
  things happening. You see you see supernatural things taking place in the Scripture.
• 57:58
  Not to mention, you have other writings describing the same thing that's described in
• 58:04
  the Bible. You know. So that's how that's how I keep that perspective
• 58:09
  there is. That's what I understand these things to be. And honestly,
• 58:15
  I believe it's going to get much worse. And you're gonna start seeing greater
• 58:19
  manifestations as time goes on. They're gonna become more tangible, they're gonna become
• 58:25
  more real. And one actually, what you're gonna see is one thing building
• 58:30
  upon another, up on another, upon another, and up on another.
• 58:36
  Oh wow, So that could explain why we're seeing so many more bigfoots right
• 58:39
  now. There's so many more dog man sightings and reports. Hey, yeah,
• 58:45
  and people are always asking me, why are why are there more sightings?
• 58:49
  Now? Yeah, why are there so many more reports? And I
• 58:52
  and people always say, well, the veil has spenned. The truth be
• 58:59
  told. There never was a veil. See that's what That's what's interesting cultures
• 59:04
  because you have your physical plane and your spiritual plane side by side. Because
• 59:08
  if there was any kind of differentiat, different uh veil or anything. When
• 59:14
  we if we if we're in prayer and we're praying to God, he's he's
• 59:19
  hearing us in real time. You know, there's no there's nov and then
• 59:23
  the answers come in in real time. So you know, we interact with
• 59:30
  spirit beings all the time every day. If the thing is, here's another
• 59:37
  thing I want, I want, I'm gonna I'm gonna give you something to
• 59:39
  think about. Okay, okay, So have you ever watched You've you've seen
• 59:46
  the show Secret of Skinwalker Ranch. I've seen part I've seen a couple of
• 59:51
  episodes. Have you seen any of the episodes where they're using that high speed
• 59:55
  camera? No, I don't know. I'm so there's so they use this.
• 1:00:01
  It's a it's called a I forgot it's called a it's a high speed
• 1:00:06
  camera. Okay. So basically what it does is if if we're outside and
• 1:00:12
  we're and we're shooting at the sky with this high speed camera, it looks
• 1:00:15
  like we are standing steel. We're like, we look like a steel photo.
• 1:00:20
  But it's I forget how many pictures it's taking per se or how many
• 1:00:23
  frames running per second, okay, but it looks like if you use to
• 1:00:28
  shoot a rocket up with this with this camera, it looks like the rocket
• 1:00:31
  is not even moving. Okay. However, when they have a U A
• 1:00:38
  P or a U F O in the in the in the in the in
• 1:00:42
  the shot, it's moving like this, you see it moving fast. Okay.
• 1:00:50
  So this this is what that tells me. As human beings, we
• 1:00:57
  the fastest we can go is is faster than the speed of sound where we
• 1:01:02
  get our sonic booms. Okay. Now, we have yet to move at
• 1:01:07
  the speed of light because that would literally involve changing your molecular structure. Okay.
• 1:01:15
  However, in the spirit world, in the spirit realm, they move
• 1:01:19
  at the speed of thought, so you would in no way see it with
• 1:01:24
  the naked eye. You would alwly like and so that's why we don't when
• 1:01:30
  we when we see UFOs. When we see a spirit moving through or something,
• 1:01:39
  it physically it literally has to slow down for us to be able to
• 1:01:45
  witness it. That is you, you are actually explaining all this so well,
• 1:01:52
  Tony. That makes so much sense. Everything that you're saying, it
• 1:01:57
  makes a lot of sense. And h and yeah, they've moved at the
• 1:02:01
  speed of thought. It's not see, that's what That's what I like to
• 1:02:05
  tell people too, is like we're thinking in human measurements, human terms.
• 1:02:10
  These cryptids don't exist in human you know, our by our measurements, right,
• 1:02:19
  don't. And that's that's why. I mean, that's and that's really
• 1:02:22
  not a perfect explanation for it, but it's it's an explanation as to why
• 1:02:27
  we don't understand some of this stuff because it's not on it's not on a
• 1:02:30
  human level. It's not it's not within the realm of time. You know,
• 1:02:37
  you're you're you're talking you're talking about beings that have been here before humans.
• 1:02:43
  You know, you're talking about beings that were that have been here.
• 1:02:49
  There's no telling how long before humans, you know, as far on the
• 1:02:52
  on in the grand scheme of the universe, we as human beings, we
• 1:02:59
  are roughly five thousand years old according to scripture, which is young. But
• 1:03:06
  you look at it in the scope of eternity, that's nothing, you know,
• 1:03:10
  that is that is nothing. You know, so you take you know,
• 1:03:15
  and uh even you know, going back to the going back to a
• 1:03:17
  biblical view on this, when you look at Jesus after his resurrection, Okay,
• 1:03:23
  he showed up and to the disciples in a room, right, he
• 1:03:30
  just appeared. But he was physical. He was physically he was physical to
• 1:03:35
  the point he told Thomas to put your finger in the scars to see.
• 1:03:38
  He was able to eat and everything with them. Okay, but then in
• 1:03:43
  a split second he was gone. So because his physical body took upon spiritual
• 1:03:55
  properties which enabled him to move and travel at the speed of thought. You
• 1:04:03
  know, just just you if you think of being somewhere and you being there,
• 1:04:10
  that's that's a that's an immeasurable that's immeasurable time because it's a it's a
• 1:04:15
  it's it's not constrained the time. That's that's that's what I've always assumed.
• 1:04:24
  That's what the ghosts, the orbs are that we're seeing. You know.
• 1:04:27
  It's like you can be anywhere, anytime at any moment in multiple places.
• 1:04:30
  It's you know, the omnipresent soul or whatever. I don't know, it's
• 1:04:35
  it's it's really interesting to try to wrap your head around that. And uh,
• 1:04:41
  and I too have seen you know, you've mentioned your your dad and
• 1:04:44
  your family had seen actual spirits that were solid like you and I right now.
• 1:04:48
  I've seen that too. I've also seen spirits that are you're adescent.
• 1:04:54
  I've seen spirits that are see through. I've communicated with them. I've communicated
• 1:04:59
  and seen or okay, orbs balls of light, spirits, you know,
• 1:05:03
  spirits. I guess it's a ball of energy. And so I mean,
• 1:05:08
  I've experienced that quite a bit. And it's got to think about this.
• 1:05:12
  It has to slow down for you to be able to see it. So
• 1:05:16
  that's that takes that takes it purposely does that so that I can see it
• 1:05:20
  then, right, yep, because you wouldn't because of white. So every
• 1:05:25
  day we we are if let's say it this way, if we can see
• 1:05:29
  into the spirit realm, it would cause us to have a stroke, heart
• 1:05:31
  attack or what have you, because there's so much and it's always around us.
• 1:05:36
  It's always around us. So when you see something it has slowed down
• 1:05:43
  in order for you to see it, because that's the it's natural movement,
• 1:05:46
  is the speed of thought. Okay. So that means that when we have
• 1:05:51
  an experience, let's just say bigfoot for instance, bigfoot, not everybody has
• 1:05:58
  ever. I mean I have never had an up close and personal visible sighting
• 1:06:01
  right here in my face a bigfoot. I've seen them for a distance.
• 1:06:05
  I've had what I consider to be a potential cloak bigfoot run up behind me
• 1:06:09
  and actually hit me, okay, from the back of my legs. But
• 1:06:14
  that even that, even that happening, Tony, there was nothing there that
• 1:06:17
  I could see personally. But something, something was there, but I couldn't
• 1:06:21
  see it. See, it's all about the frequency. It's the vibration.
• 1:06:26
  But there are certain times where they allow you to see them. And we
• 1:06:29
  hear this over and over again. I was allowed to see it, Yeah,
• 1:06:32
  okay, they wanted me to see it. Okay. That that shows
• 1:06:38
  me every looking back on all the experiences I've had with paranormal entities, a
• 1:06:44
  crypti, supernatural, even ets, I was meant to see that. Because
• 1:06:47
  here I am talking about it today and I'm able to express what I experience
• 1:06:51
  and so many other people have experienced it too. Yeah, we were meant
• 1:06:58
  to have those experiences. They it's it's a thing where they just they they
• 1:07:02
  allow you to see them like like uh an or you know, seeing that
• 1:07:09
  that that ball of light, you know that it has to slow down.
• 1:07:15
  It has to slow down because you know if if if not, you wouldn't
• 1:07:19
  see it, because it's because they're all like I said, they're always there.
• 1:07:23
  They're always there. Yeah, they're always there. They're just out of
• 1:07:28
  our line of sight. Okay, they're just too fast. They're vibrating,
• 1:07:31
  they're vibrating differently than we are. I had I had a this is experience.
• 1:07:36
  This is experience, a paranormal experience as far as talking about ghosts and
• 1:07:41
  demons and stuff. After I had get just given my life to christ I've
• 1:07:45
  probably been two years saved and uh me and my me and my first wife
• 1:07:51
  had divorced. We had been divorced maybe about four or five months at this
• 1:07:56
  time, and the kids were with me. So now I'm laying in the
• 1:08:00
  bed and I'm facing out of the door, and their bedrooms is in the
• 1:08:08
  hall, and I'm laying there and I'm trying to go to sleep. And
• 1:08:12
  I start hearing what sounded like wet chains coming up behind me, and it
• 1:08:17
  was like coming from a distance. And I go to turn over to see
• 1:08:24
  what it is. I can't move. The only thing I could move was
• 1:08:29
  my eyes, and I'm trying to cut my eyes to see and it's getting
• 1:08:32
  up closer and closer and closer, and it sounded like wet chains come dragging
• 1:08:39
  across concrete. That's what it sounded alike. And I heard it getting right
• 1:08:45
  up to my ear and it goes, we are what we are? And
• 1:08:51
  I just snatched over and I sat up on the bed and I'm sitting there
• 1:09:00
  and I'm like, did I just have spiritual warfare? And then I got
• 1:09:09
  all of a sudden I felt violated, and I stood up and I said,
• 1:09:15
  in the name of Jesus, I command you to leave. And I
• 1:09:20
  was able to feel where it was at in the house. It was going
• 1:09:25
  from room to room, in every room, I was commanding the name of
• 1:09:28
  you, just leave. Finally, I went to the front door, open
• 1:09:30
  the front door, and I said, I command you the name of You,
• 1:09:32
  just to get out of here. And it gone. I called my
• 1:09:38
  pastor up. We prayed about it, but that voice, that voice that
• 1:09:45
  was oh man, that was two thousand and four, and I want to
• 1:09:55
  say about seven or eight years later. You remember that movie, The Exorcism
• 1:10:00
  of Emily Rose. Yes, yeah, So I decided I'm gonna watch that
• 1:10:08
  movie. Okay, now which got me with that one? What got me
• 1:10:12
  intrigued? And it it's a true story. So a lot of times when
• 1:10:15
  I when I would, you know, i'd watch a lot of movies like
• 1:10:16
  that, and but they would have to be true stories, you know,
• 1:10:20
  because what I would do I would go research to actually vent to see how
• 1:10:28
  much they put in the movie, you know. So it was intriguing because
• 1:10:33
  it was basically a court case against a priest, and basically science versus religion
• 1:10:41
  is pretty much what this was. So I watched the movie. Then I
• 1:10:46
  went and looked it up, and that I would, you know, I
• 1:10:49
  was looking at if they put the actual pictures in the movie, the actual
• 1:10:54
  recordings that they put in the movie. So I'm looking it up, find
• 1:10:56
  out the girl's real name. Then I find recordings of the exorcism itself.
• 1:11:03
  So I messed around there and I hit play. I should have never did
• 1:11:09
  that, because the voice on that recording from that move from from that.
• 1:11:15
  The actual recording of the extrasists of that exorcism, the actual voice on that
• 1:11:21
  recording was the voice that was in my ear. And I was done with
• 1:11:27
  horror movies from that point on. I was, I ain't watching it.
• 1:11:30
  I ain't watched nonsense. Oh, Tony, that is terrifying. Yeah,
• 1:11:34
  that is terrifying. And with those chains, that's weird. I was.
• 1:11:38
  I was good. I was good. I'm not gonna say I'm gonna crack
• 1:11:41
  a joke, but I was gonna say, was it the ghost of Christmas
• 1:11:43
  past? Right? Right? But that's just odd? Yeah, it was
• 1:11:51
  coming and I can hear it coming. You know. It wasn't like just
• 1:11:55
  a boom and a big noise and chains. I heard it coming. It
• 1:12:00
  was like coming from it. It sounded like it was coming from a distance.
• 1:12:02
  And like I said, this the only way to describe it was like
• 1:12:09
  a like if you had wet, heavy logging chain that was fresh out of
• 1:12:15
  water dragging across concrete. Okay, that's that's terrifying. I have not yet
• 1:12:28
  had a terribly horrible experience with spirits and stuff. Okay, I go,
• 1:12:31
  I go looking for danger apparently, Okay, so I have not had anything
• 1:12:38
  like that happened. I've had some scary moments in my life. But but
• 1:12:42
  the fact that that because you were saying, like, there's there's no time
• 1:12:45
  in space in their realm, right, and so the same voice you heard
• 1:12:49
  on that movie was the same voice that was in your ear man that we
• 1:12:59
  were. You know what when we're when we're what we're dealing with in the
• 1:13:01
  spirit realm is you have these because demons are basically the disembodied spirits of the
• 1:13:13
  nepheline. Okay, so you have you have a hierarchy. You have angels
• 1:13:18
  that have fallen, and now what I mean by falling pretty much angels who
• 1:13:24
  have rebelled against God. Okay. Then you have angels who cohabitated with women
• 1:13:31
  to produce a race of Nepheline or giants. Okay. Also you have the
• 1:13:43
  giants, the spirits of the giants that are pretty much condemned to roam the
• 1:13:48
  earth. That is what we're dealing with on a daily basis. And they're
• 1:13:58
  they're you know, they seek to inhabit a body, they seek to they
• 1:14:02
  put their their mission really much pretty much is to destroy humankind in whichever way
• 1:14:10
  possible. That don't necessarily mean they're out to what they're out to, kiel.
• 1:14:15
  But when you see like families destroyed, you know, various things happening,
• 1:14:19
  that they're the root cause of it. Oh yeah, there's a lot
• 1:14:28
  of that going on right now. Okay, a lot of people's lives and
• 1:14:30
  a lot of people are you know, we've been under a massive spiritual attack
• 1:14:35
  as an entire an entirety, okay, especially in the United States. Okay,
• 1:14:41
  all over the world. We've been been under pretty extreme straps with the
• 1:14:45
  past, at least for the past four years now, right and uh and
• 1:14:49
  and suicide rates are up, and depression is through the roof, and we
• 1:14:58
  have to be alert because it when it does it, it wears you down
• 1:15:02
  to where you're not paying attention. And when you're not paying attention, you're
• 1:15:06
  susceptible to a lot of stuff. And that's something we have to be cautious
• 1:15:11
  of. Even like you're like you're going out here, and you notice,
• 1:15:16
  first you had bigfoot, then you had bigfoot with a snout. Now you
• 1:15:24
  have a complete dog man Okay. Now, and these cryptids are getting bigger,
• 1:15:31
  they're getting badd and they're getting more ruthless. Sasquatch sisquatches. Not he's
• 1:15:39
  staying the same, He's just doing his thing. He just he's just doing
• 1:15:43
  his thing. But these other ones are are are They're They're literally terrifying.
• 1:15:48
  You don't know what you're going to get. And not only if are you
• 1:15:51
  dealing with that, but wherever And I'm pretty sure you can attest to this,
• 1:15:57
  because this is the stuff that I've just been hearing. Is where you
• 1:16:00
  got a dog man, you have orbs, you have a lot of you
• 1:16:01
  have a lot of spiritual activity that surrounds this, this this cryptid you know,
• 1:16:11
  with with Bigfoot. In my sightings and Prince, I've never had any
• 1:16:20
  kind of spiritual anything in any kind of spiritual thing with it. Don't.
• 1:16:25
  The only the closest thing I can get to any kind of supernatural paranormal thing
• 1:16:30
  with a Bigfoot was when I heard it grunt, when that tree fail and
• 1:16:34
  I didn't see nothing. Okay, Okay, Tony, I have I have
• 1:16:42
  a couple of questions. Okay, of course I have questions. Okay,
• 1:16:46
  I get asked a lot too. Are are some of these cryptids? Are
• 1:16:50
  they all organic? Are they like natural? Are they from the earth?
• 1:16:56
  Where do they come? From because there is an the theory that some of
• 1:17:00
  the especially dog men, let's you say, are made in a lamb or
• 1:17:06
  in some sort of a cloning program or something like that. What do you
• 1:17:12
  think about that aspect of cryptids? Okay, So for me my belief is
• 1:17:18
  bigfoot. I believe is just an organic being bipedal primate there that are that
• 1:17:24
  have a various various species of it. I want to say there's at least
• 1:17:31
  four different different UH species of a side squatch. And I think we talked
• 1:17:38
  about this before where I believe in the in the Pacific Northwest they're bigger,
• 1:17:42
  more barrel, just a lot larger. You go down to Florida, they're
• 1:17:46
  they're about my height in Florida and and lanky. Here. What what I
• 1:17:53
  saw was it was a little bit taller than me. It was big,
• 1:17:57
  but not as big as so California or Washington State. So I squatch.
• 1:18:02
  Then you have the yetti uh, which is basically they're about the same size
• 1:18:09
  as the ones in the Pacific Northwest. Their white appearance is due to icicles
• 1:18:14
  that have frozen on their fur that you see from a distance. It makes
• 1:18:16
  it look like it's glistening. Then you have the you have the skunk ap
• 1:18:23
  but then you have what I call a swamp eight pretty much like the like
• 1:18:27
  the creature in Boggy Creek is a swamp eight. Then you have one that
• 1:18:32
  I believe it gets confused with a dog man, but I think it's more
• 1:18:36
  of has a snout much like a baboon or something like type three lost like
• 1:18:44
  type three, and but I believe all those are natural bipedal primates that just
• 1:18:55
  have not been discovered yet. Some cryptids I believe are straight all the way
• 1:19:00
  spiritual, they're they're just they're they're a demonic manifestation of something that for some
• 1:19:09
  for some reason, people are seeing and stuff like that. Now, what
• 1:19:13
  about Tony, I'm gonna I'm gonna flash this picture up here. What do
• 1:19:15
  you think about all these dog men types? See, I that's here's the
• 1:19:19
  possible I think about that. Some of those are lab created man sampling with
• 1:19:28
  stuff, and some I believe are pure spiritual. That's uh, you got
• 1:19:34
  you got a combination of both going on there. I do believe that if
• 1:19:39
  it's made in the lab, it's it's it's uh, it's under it's a
• 1:19:42
  demonic influence to do that you know, because you know, I don't think
• 1:19:48
  human beings naturally think that way. You know, like another thing that's made
• 1:19:54
  in the lab. That that that's intriguing to me. It's uh, it's
• 1:19:58
  called a a liger. Oh yeah, yes, yes, now that was.
• 1:20:09
  Now here's the thing that was made in a lab. But it but
• 1:20:15
  it was it was not like I don't think there was any chemicals involved,
• 1:20:19
  you know, I'm just what I'm saying. I don't think there's you know,
• 1:20:23
  because it was a hybrid. Yeah, it was a hybrid animal from
• 1:20:30
  two organic animals, right, they just hybridize it. But this the some
• 1:20:36
  of these I believe some like with the dog men, I believe some are
• 1:20:40
  some are spiritual, and I believe some are possibly concocted in a lab.
• 1:20:48
  Mm hmm. So when so when things are things, I say things,
• 1:20:53
  when uh, cryptids, creatures, let's just say creatures are creating a lab.
• 1:20:58
  And now I really do talk about cloning quite a bit. I'm really
• 1:21:01
  into looking into cloning. And I mean I was even planning to do a
• 1:21:05
  show soon on recycled celebrities. Okay, And it's something that I think we
• 1:21:14
  all should be aware of because when there are bodies that are being cloned.
• 1:21:19
  Okay, what does that do on a soul level? Okay? How does
• 1:21:25
  the soul get in there? The consciousness? How are they transferring that on
• 1:21:29
  it? And is it is? It's just it's hard to wrap my head
• 1:21:31
  around, Tony, because those can be dark entities can be put into all
• 1:21:36
  these cloned bodies. Okay, dark entities, demonic presences, demonic inceed.
• 1:21:44
  Honestly, that's what's going to happen because if you so, if you clone
• 1:21:49
  a human being, let's say you clone a human being, Okay, it's
• 1:21:53
  not born. It's not it's not like, get't go through the portal.
• 1:22:01
  It's it's not born, So you have it has to be animated. Now,
• 1:22:08
  you know. One of the things that's the lot that what goes along
• 1:22:10
  with the lines with cloning. That really that that that I've been really looking
• 1:22:14
  at is AI. You know, AI is you pretty much have a robot
• 1:22:20
  with a conscience, but it has no soul. And you know, we
• 1:22:26
  were talking about demons looking for a body to inhabit. That would be the
• 1:22:31
  perfect body for it to inhabit, one that has either a clone or a
• 1:22:38
  AI or a robot built by it. You know, and the and a
• 1:22:42
  lot. Here's here's one for you. If you go to in the Bible
• 1:22:45
  and Revelation thirteen. It talks about the mark of the beast, but it
• 1:22:48
  talks about who makes the mark of who? Who who institutes the mark of
• 1:22:54
  the beast is an image of the beast that's made by the false prophet,
• 1:23:00
  and the false prophet causes the image to have life, and then the image
• 1:23:08
  produces the mark that causes everybody to get that's a I. And that's right
• 1:23:15
  there in the Book of Revelation. I am a team human. They're joining
• 1:23:24
  me on Team human here. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not cool with
• 1:23:30
  these robots and stuff, none of that. You're not. It's a lot,
• 1:23:36
  Okay, we're still we're still here trying to save humanity. Yeah,
• 1:23:44
  because there isn't what they're calling the transhumanist movement. There's a AI takeover.
• 1:23:50
  Yeah. Yeah. And they're pushing it. They're they're they're pushing it,
• 1:23:56
  you know, And and they're pushing regardless of the warning signs that's taking place
• 1:24:03
  with these things, you know, these you know, they're they're asking these
• 1:24:08
  things questions and they're getting dark answers, you know, getting dark that's right.
• 1:24:15
  Well, hey, I mean people can ask a left Alexa. I
• 1:24:18
  do not have Alexa, and I will never have no shade to all y'all
• 1:24:24
  have Alexa and stuff, but I I am not going to have another.
• 1:24:27
  I mean, we've already got our cell phones listening in, to have a
• 1:24:30
  to have a spine in your home at all times, our TVs are spying
• 1:24:35
  on us, you know. The alexis everything. Yeah, I like my
• 1:24:42
  privacy as much as I like my perceived privacy. I feel like I have
• 1:24:48
  at anything extra that's going to give up what we already are giving up,
• 1:24:53
  giving up more of it, so to speak. Yeah, exactly. Yeah,
• 1:24:58
  I mean we're in weird times now, uh and just throwing the cryptid
• 1:25:02
  factor in with all the craziness in the world right now. I mean it
• 1:25:06
  is kind of like revelations, right, It's kind of like revel incense,
• 1:25:11
  and it is kind of the end Times. And I have a pretty in
• 1:25:14
  depth conversation about this, especially with our friend Dennis Carroll, who's in the
• 1:25:17
  chat today Hunting the Shadows is in here, hey, Dennis, uh he
• 1:25:20
  he he and I talked about the end Times, okay, and I think
• 1:25:26
  it was in regard. I was just about to do a show on those
• 1:25:28
  mall aliens. Okay, down in Miami, there were some some alleged aliens.
• 1:25:32
  I've talked about those today briefly on my presentation at the World UFO Conference,
• 1:25:38
  and we talked about that. I mean, isn't the end times,
• 1:25:43
  Tony, what do you think about that? Okay, We've been in We've
• 1:25:45
  been in the End times since Jesus ascended on high. So we've been in
• 1:25:49
  the end times that long, all right, So when when we talk about
• 1:25:57
  the n time, Yeah, we are living in the end times and are
• 1:26:00
  going to ramp up. It's going to ramp up to a level that where
• 1:26:04
  in Revelation talks about the whole world being deceived. And that's what that's what's
• 1:26:12
  that's basically what's happening. You're gonna you're gonna start seeing a lot of stuff
• 1:26:16
  that it's gonna get attributed to God. But it's not gonna be God.
• 1:26:23
  It's gonna be it's gonna be these these entities and these various beings doing things
• 1:26:30
  because but basically what you're having is you you got where it's just a it's
• 1:26:33
  a full blown deception. It's a full blown deception. For I'm gonna give
• 1:26:40
  you an example. When we read about Adam and Eve in the garden,
• 1:26:45
  it says our text says a serpent appeared to eat Okay, now was it
• 1:26:54
  a snake? That's that's our believe taking liberal sense. Yeah, some people
• 1:27:04
  interpret that as being Oh it was a reptilian. In ancient times, they
• 1:27:11
  didn't view it as a serpent. They viewed it as a divine being that
• 1:27:16
  was in opposition to God. In other words, the title serpent is a
• 1:27:21
  is descriptive of its nature. So you how, you know, I would
• 1:27:31
  say these last days, watch the use of languages because with what what what
• 1:27:39
  you know, the language can be used to hide something more sinister, you
• 1:27:44
  know, you know what I'm saying. Like you know, when we see
• 1:27:49
  a U f O or U A P. You know, we you know,
• 1:27:54
  a lot, a lot a lot of people believe that these they're coming
• 1:27:58
  from other planets and that they're peaceful and and and all that. I've never
• 1:28:02
  I've never foresaw UFO being peaceful, never have. Even before I started anything,
• 1:28:13
  I was like, something right about that. It's showing up, it's
• 1:28:16
  disappeared. It's what's it doing by now? By now, think about it,
• 1:28:24
  we've been they've been coming and doing that. By now, they should
• 1:28:27
  have showed up and said, hey, we're here for this without the other
• 1:28:32
  around. Well, you know, from all the research that I've done,
• 1:28:36
  all the remote viewing targets that I've been given, all these blind targets,
• 1:28:40
  and they're examining the UFOs and ET experiences. It is my it is my
• 1:28:45
  opinion that eats are not all like from outer space. I think I think
• 1:28:51
  that they're Yeah, I think it's more sinister, and I think it's all
• 1:28:58
  of them. Okay, it's either there are some that are are here to
• 1:29:01
  come to try to help and pull push humanity forward, you know, on
• 1:29:05
  a conscious level, but there's some that are abducting humans and experimenting on them.
• 1:29:12
  And you know, here we got the missing four one one stuff going
• 1:29:15
  on, all these missing persons clusters. You and I do bigfoot research in
• 1:29:18
  National Park sometimes and the dangers out there. But there's a lot of dangers
• 1:29:26
  out there. My question is, if this is an advanced intelligent race,
• 1:29:32
  why is it abductimist to do experiments what they're looking for exactly what they're looking
• 1:29:38
  for. And here's another interesting thing, is they always take blood. Yeah,
• 1:29:48
  they take blood. They always a recurring theme and a lot of these
• 1:29:55
  remote viewing targets I'm given too when it comes to cryptids attacking people with the
• 1:30:00
  dog Man, for instance, That's something that I was hesitant to talk about
• 1:30:04
  when it came to that remote viewing data. When I was remote viewing the
• 1:30:09
  LBL, we got people in the chat talking about the land between the Lakes
• 1:30:12
  tonight and I've got to get there. I got to get there. We're
• 1:30:18
  gonna take a trip up there. I know Gerald was talking about going to
• 1:30:21
  and Matthew, I think, so I need to go up there as well.
• 1:30:25
  We've got some we've got some friends up there. But but a recurring
• 1:30:30
  theme with some of these attacks that I have remote you that I do believe
• 1:30:32
  were cryptid related. They're going for that adrenalized blood, and that's why they
• 1:30:39
  are attacking humans. Now what does that tell you, Tony? What do
• 1:30:43
  you think that tells me? This? The Bible says that the life of
• 1:30:46
  all flesh is in the blood, and I had this is God speaking,
• 1:30:51
  I have given it to you for atonement for your souls. In other words,
• 1:30:57
  there is something in blood that the forces are of darkness are trying to
• 1:31:04
  replicate. That's what that tells me. Oh yeah, blood God had put
• 1:31:12
  God has put something in blood that is unique to mankind to bring redemption back
• 1:31:21
  to God through blood. And it is something that the forces of darkness are
• 1:31:28
  simply trying to replicate or trying to figure out what it is. So you
• 1:31:32
  gotta you gotta spirit being trying to figure out what God has done with humanity
• 1:31:41
  with their blood. Oh wow, Well there's always some sort of inversion to
• 1:31:46
  going on as well, and the dark forces like, isn't it true that
• 1:31:51
  they can't create and stuff too? I don't know. See that's and that's
• 1:31:56
  the other thing. Okay, so you got we got one creator. That's
• 1:32:02
  God. He created everything. Everything that man creates is always is made from
• 1:32:06
  something that has already been created. It is not He is not the originator
• 1:32:11
  of it. So the deception is the dark forces can't create, but they
• 1:32:16
  can destroy what has been created or deceive people into making them believe that they
• 1:32:25
  have created this. For example, this is why we got these experiments with
• 1:32:30
  these people making animals in labs. See they're trying to they're trying to do
• 1:32:36
  something that they was not designed to do, and it's basically what it does
• 1:32:42
  is create confusion. When you got confusion, you got lawlessness. When you
• 1:32:46
  got lawlessness, you got a depravity that takes place where these beings can then
• 1:32:55
  control and it's it brings a false sense of security where you think you're at
• 1:32:59
  peace, but it's being controlled by this thing. Hmm. Well, there's
• 1:33:06
  just a recurring theme of blood and needing the blood. And even Dennis and
• 1:33:11
  still is in the chat, still hunting the shadows. Hey, Dennis,
• 1:33:14
  we talk about blood and it's used as in even crypto Bill. We've talked
• 1:33:18
  about this too with conjuring cryptics because people there are there are people that are
• 1:33:24
  into the dark arts, I guess you can call it, who do use
• 1:33:28
  blood to conjure deities and entities, and even on battlefields like the Civil War
• 1:33:35
  battlefields we have, in the Revolutionary War battlefields, all the battlefields. We
• 1:33:40
  have a lot of battlefields, land dispute battles and stuff here in the United
• 1:33:44
  States, we honestly don't know what our true history is. To be honest,
• 1:33:48
  the more I'm looking into this, the less I believe all the history
• 1:33:51
  books right, I think, way way longer, more rich history here,
• 1:33:57
  right, and these things that we live on, but we don't know what
• 1:34:00
  all's been on these lands. But when I'm I'm looking into some of these
• 1:34:02
  cases, like the old green eyes always bring up the land. Whatever I
• 1:34:08
  was remote viewing and at corpsewould man or too, okay, you know where
• 1:34:12
  that is up in North Georgia. I keep getting the same message in these
• 1:34:15
  targets, and the data says, uh, the the land requires blood.
• 1:34:21
  Okay, whatever this is requires blood? So is that fie? Uh?
• 1:34:27
  Now, Now do the people in charge, hey, they whoever they are,
• 1:34:30
  the elite, whoever's politicians, whoever's creating these wars okay and sending our
• 1:34:38
  men into and women into battle? Do they do they do? They do
• 1:34:44
  it on purpose? And I know this is this is this like total just
• 1:34:47
  a thought okay, entertainment purposes only purpose absolutely. I'm in surer and pondering
• 1:34:57
  with my chat okay, uh yeah, but you have to you have to
• 1:35:01
  wonder, like, are are people being sent to certain spots to you know,
• 1:35:06
  we have like constant war in the Middle East, right, Okay,
• 1:35:10
  constant war in the in the Middle East, constant wars all over the place,
• 1:35:14
  all right, or at least that's what we're told. And I believe
• 1:35:17
  there are a lot of there's a lot of bloodshed in certain places over and
• 1:35:20
  over and over again. Uh, it's not for ritual purposes of some sport,
• 1:35:26
  you know. I don't know. Maybe maybe I've I've gone down too
• 1:35:29
  many rabbit holes, y'all. I go down a lot of rabbit holes.
• 1:35:32
  But Uh, but like I've been saying lately, I've been noticing patterns,
• 1:35:35
  okay, And a lot of the same data is showing up in a lot
• 1:35:39
  of these different targets that I'm doing when it comes to conjuring cryptids and and
• 1:35:43
  things being conjured. And you know, even on that battlefield up at Chickamauga.
• 1:35:47
  Uh, they say that there are suicides that happened there to this day
• 1:35:51
  on that battlefield, Like why why would that be? You know, it's
• 1:35:58
  uh, it seems almost parent normal in a way, like something is calling
• 1:36:01
  them there, and that data suggested that the land requires blood. There's blood.
• 1:36:09
  A lot of talk about blood coming up though with all these all these
• 1:36:12
  shows that we're doing. Krytonville says, all wars are created by those in
• 1:36:16
  charge for profit and to gain more power, and there's a ceremonial tie to
• 1:36:20
  it. Okay, I think so too. It took as many breaks that
• 1:36:28
  you need. Yeah, rene people people aged. Telomeres tell mars is a
• 1:36:34
  word I just learned. Uh. I think Alex Jones was saying it or
• 1:36:38
  something kind of that kind of vitamin that he had. It was like,
• 1:36:42
  you got to picture telomeres. It's like your DNA, right. I think
• 1:36:46
  it stops you from aging or so bad or something. I can't remember.
• 1:36:51
  I think I bought a bottle of it though. Okay, so that's why
• 1:36:55
  I'm so. I don't take anything vitamins in a while. But let's see.
• 1:37:00
  Oh yeah, it is about aging, it is about aging. But
• 1:37:03
  anyways, Yeah, we're just talking about blood, tony and that's a question
• 1:37:10
  about the battlefield or something. Yeah, well I was talking about I was
• 1:37:13
  talking about the land requiring bloody, admiring blood, and maybe that's why war.
• 1:37:19
  Like I was I actually after you after you left, while you go,
• 1:37:23
  I was mentioning like the Middle East there's constant war going on there right,
• 1:37:26
  constant warfare all the time. And I don't know if just because the
• 1:37:30
  land requires blood too, and it's uh Cryptiveille said it was ceremonial. When
• 1:37:35
  it comes to wars and stuff, I think ritualistic now. Like so in
• 1:37:42
  one instance in scripture, where Can kills Abel, the Bible says that Able's
• 1:37:48
  blood cried out to God from the ground. And that's how I want to
• 1:37:56
  say, that's how God knew. But there was a repercus for this murder
• 1:38:00
  that takes took place as far as the you know, the blood spilled on
• 1:38:06
  the ground. You got blood spilled all over the place. And I don't
• 1:38:11
  think it's done on purpose. It's just it's it's a result of mankind.
• 1:38:16
  As far as in the Middle East goes the what you're seeing the Middle East
• 1:38:21
  take place, with all the fighting amongst them, it's that's an that's an
• 1:38:27
  ancient war. It's an ancient spiritual it's a spiritual war as well as a
• 1:38:30
  physical war. What you're seeing with what basically, almost to an extent,
• 1:38:35
  what you're seeing manifest between the nations on the earth, is what you're seeing
• 1:38:41
  manifest in the heavens, in the spiritual realm, between angels and stuff fighting
• 1:38:45
  against each fighting against with each other. It's manifested on the earth. So
• 1:38:51
  you're going to always have battles that's just all the ways everywhere. Now,
• 1:38:57
  it's just you know, when you when you talk about where if you're you
• 1:39:01
  know, when you're doing your remote view it and it's your the land is
• 1:39:05
  requiring blood. That's that's that's that's a sinister thing. That's that's that's that's
• 1:39:12
  not actually the the earth itself, but the you have. All right.
• 1:39:19
  So these these dark entities, you know, spirits, spirits in general,
• 1:39:26
  i'll say, fallen angels and stuff like that, they inhabit locations. Okay.
• 1:39:31
  So one of the things that's very important that you'll that you'll notice in
• 1:39:39
  scripture is what they what's called divine geography, okay, where particular spirits operate
• 1:39:51
  over a particular location. You'll see you'll see that in the Book of Daniel,
• 1:39:58
  where Daniel pray and the angel Gabriel comes to him twenty one days later,
• 1:40:04
  and Gabriel tells him, he says, from the day you set your
• 1:40:08
  heart to pray, God heard your prayer, and I am come for your
• 1:40:12
  words. But I was held up by the Prince of Persia. I was
• 1:40:17
  held up for twenty one days by the Prince of Persia. Now the Prince
• 1:40:24
  of Persia is a is a prince spirit that was over the nation of Persia
• 1:40:32
  because Daniel was under the he was he was held in the Persian Empire during
• 1:40:40
  that time. He says that, and the and the and the angel Gabriel
• 1:40:43
  tells him, I have to go back because the Prince of Greece is on
• 1:40:48
  his way, and he's talking about a spirit being. Well, what empire
• 1:40:54
  conquered the Persian Empire, Greece. So these spirits have operate within territories.
• 1:41:04
  When you have a place like corpse corpsewood manor Okay, that's a that's a
• 1:41:12
  dark place. So there is probably a dark spirit that inhabits that place,
• 1:41:19
  and it's and it wants people blood. That's okay, Well that's that's a
• 1:41:27
  perfect example. And yes, and then the gentlemen who lived there were actually
• 1:41:31
  instructed where to build their house because they were Satanists and were friends with Anton
• 1:41:36
  Levy. So you have a you have a anic spirit there that's still there
• 1:41:45
  to it. In other words, just because the people leave, that doesn't
• 1:41:48
  mean the spirit leaves with them, Tony, you won't believe this. So
• 1:41:54
  when I went to go investigate that place ten eleven years ago, I was
• 1:41:59
  with your the guys with Eerg okay, and we got up there. I
• 1:42:02
  had Craig. Craig and Bruce were with us. Who We got there and
• 1:42:06
  there was blood everywhere in the ruins of the house. There was blood splatter
• 1:42:12
  all of it and it was fresh. It was fresh, and it was
• 1:42:15
  it was everywhere, and we and there were but there were pictures that people
• 1:42:19
  the obvious rituals have been done there and are still there to this day.
• 1:42:25
  But you know, we have like were wolf or dog man sightings up there,
• 1:42:28
  bigfoot reports, all sorts of stuff up here and surround what is that
• 1:42:32
  Tryon, Georgia. It's not too far from Tryon or Cedar Town. Yeah,
• 1:42:36
  and uh around, I guess. So there's blood and we were we
• 1:42:42
  were I hate to say hoping, because we were hoping that it was just
• 1:42:46
  it was like a chicken or something like maybe something came up and did like
• 1:42:49
  a voodoo ritual or something. We were we were hoping it was something like
• 1:42:55
  that or or just like, yeah, it turns out it was human.
• 1:43:01
  It was And let me tell you the story behind it. Okay, And
• 1:43:04
  this is interesting for the audience. I might have mentioned this before, and
• 1:43:08
  I did a show on corpse would matter with with Craig by the way,
• 1:43:12
  one of our teams and uh uh. After after we posted that video of
• 1:43:16
  some of our research on the ERG YouTube channel, which I think has been
• 1:43:20
  taken down. Now, okay, well we had a three part series on
• 1:43:24
  Enigma Research Groups YouTube channel, a woman contacted us and said that actually that
• 1:43:30
  blood was from my son. She said, I watched your video. She
• 1:43:35
  said, I watched your video and I can't believe it. You guys ended
• 1:43:41
  up going there a few days or a couple of days after my son had
• 1:43:45
  to be rushed out of there and almost died. She said that was the
• 1:43:49
  weekend before he and his friends had gone up there to they took a Ouiji
• 1:43:54
  board or something. They were trying to you know, it's a local it's
• 1:43:57
  a local spot to get scared for teenagers. Yeah, And so her son
• 1:44:00
  was a young man. Him and his friends went and uh and they decided
• 1:44:04
  to they were going to build a fire, and he took his he had
• 1:44:09
  a knife or a hatchet. I think he had a hatchet, and he
• 1:44:13
  went to go chop a piece of wood and the axe slip and it slit
• 1:44:16
  the artery in his thigh. God. She said that it bled so bad
• 1:44:20
  they thought that he wasn't going to survive. And we had noticed that like
• 1:44:25
  a whole herd, look at her elephants had left out in a hurry.
• 1:44:28
  So we knew that something had happened, but we didn't know what, you
• 1:44:30
  know, we were just like, oh, it's a bunch of kids that
• 1:44:32
  got scared right. Well, actually it was all his friends carrying him to
• 1:44:36
  the car to rush him to the hospital. And that was his book.
• 1:44:41
  Yeah, so it was human. Now, what are the odds of that
• 1:44:45
  land requiring blood? There's a kid who's out there chopping wood and oops,
• 1:44:50
  the axious accident. I was thinking the same thing. I was thinking the
• 1:44:55
  same thing. I was thinking, Uh, okay, so it required blood,
• 1:45:00
  Yeah, say what kind or how much? It just was requiring it.
• 1:45:03
  And you know, and if that's if that's if there's one place like
• 1:45:08
  that, there's many places like that, and it's you know, those are
• 1:45:12
  the areas that you know, you really want to be cautious and careful because
• 1:45:17
  it's dangerous because you know, we can't physically see a spirit less it chooses
• 1:45:23
  for us to see it, but it can sure, it can messle our
• 1:45:26
  mind. It can mess with our emotions. It can mess, It can
• 1:45:28
  stir us up in all kind of ways, especially something that dark and that
• 1:45:32
  powerful. Yeah, it's it was pretty It was. It was sad.
• 1:45:38
  The guy, the kid ended up being okay, he survived, good,
• 1:45:41
  good, he survived. He had some good friends with them that took care
• 1:45:45
  of him immediately and got him out of there. But that was that was
• 1:45:47
  his blood. It was not a chicken. We had our suspicions that it
• 1:45:53
  might have been him, and we were hoping it wasn't. No, thank
• 1:45:56
  you so much for that supersticker. I appreciate you so much. Yeah,
• 1:46:00
  this is an excellent discussion tonight. Uh, we've gone pretty deep into some
• 1:46:04
  of this these topics here tonight when it comes to this. But this is
• 1:46:09
  real life stuff for you and I because we're out here doing the boots on
• 1:46:11
  the ground build research and deep stuff and you know, deep stuff. People
• 1:46:16
  are seeing it, people are experiencing it, and you know, of course
• 1:46:23
  we can't answer everything, but I really try to, you know, do
• 1:46:30
  what I can to bring people comfort, to bring people you know, give
• 1:46:33
  them information or or something else to think about than than the norm. Yeah.
• 1:46:42
  Oh yeah, well we think outside the box. And uh, and
• 1:46:45
  that's and that's that's that's one of my requirements, is I like for my
• 1:46:51
  my research friends, and I mean I don't require it, but you know,
• 1:46:55
  like I, I would prefer everybody have an open mind, okay,
• 1:46:59
  because because that's the only way we're going to start really having an open discussion
• 1:47:02
  about all this, because not judging people for their leads and you know,
• 1:47:09
  their opinions. You get a lot of that too, You got you got,
• 1:47:14
  but you've got to be able to ban some, you got to be
• 1:47:15
  able to bend. It's it's this This field is a give and take.
• 1:47:20
  It's a give and take, Yeah it is. It's uh, it's definitely
• 1:47:26
  given take. But we have a lot of really smart people in the chat
• 1:47:29
  tonight, and uh and in my all, all of my friends, everybody
• 1:47:32
  bring all my shows are super smart and everybody has a different perspective on things
• 1:47:38
  too, which I really appreciate because the things that you said tonight, you
• 1:47:43
  put things so eloquently, okay, with with the space and the time and
• 1:47:47
  and the cryptids and the spirits and everything that sounds they're having slowing down so
• 1:47:53
  that we can see them occasionally, it makes perfect sense. You know,
• 1:47:57
  I have a question too. You know, there's an since where my son
• 1:48:00
  and I, you know, you know, Ben, we were seeing orbs
• 1:48:05
  in the house and his dad could not see them. What do you think
• 1:48:10
  that was? Do you think that Ben and I were just on the frequency
• 1:48:12
  of these orbs and his dad wasn't Let me think about that one. No,
• 1:48:16
  that's what I figured. I'm not trying to stump you on. But
• 1:48:19
  I've been trying to figure that out too, and that my theory is that
• 1:48:24
  Ben and I are on a different frequency and we were in I guess the
• 1:48:28
  orbs let us see them, but not his dad. I'm not saying that,
• 1:48:31
  see, I don't know now here it's the same thing of this,
• 1:48:39
  the same thing like this, Okay, Like when I was talking about my
• 1:48:43
  dad was able to see him. We didn't see nothing, but he was
• 1:48:47
  able to see it. And he's seeing it and we're looking in the same
• 1:48:50
  spot. You know, my sister can see him. I can't, you
• 1:48:57
  know. So I think I think really that depends on the individual, you
• 1:49:04
  know. I think that's more of the more long lines of the individual versus
• 1:49:08
  the actual being, you know, the being. You know, I do
• 1:49:13
  believe they can select who they choose can to see it and who can But
• 1:49:18
  like like like with my like with with my family, I can't see them,
• 1:49:23
  and they have it has to be one of them things where they let
• 1:49:26
  me see it, you know, I'm not if it's I can't see it,
• 1:49:31
  my dad, my sisters, they can see them. I'm glad.
• 1:49:35
  I can't see it, but I can hear. I can hear, I
• 1:49:40
  can feel when something's around. Oh yeah, of sight is both a blessing
• 1:49:45
  and a curse, they say, yeah, yeah for an answer on on
• 1:49:54
  okay, so you and Ben was able to see the or now it wasn't
• 1:49:59
  here what the phone or something. He saw it through the cell phone.
• 1:50:05
  Yeah, you can see it through the screen on his phone as he was
• 1:50:09
  filled because he was videoing it live and he was watching it on his screen,
• 1:50:14
  but he could not see them in real life, in real in real
• 1:50:16
  time, real time, I say real life, right, you can't do
• 1:50:20
  it in real time. But but my son and I were watching them and
• 1:50:24
  actually been following them with his finger going mom ball and so you're moving with
• 1:50:30
  them. An interesting thing is children can see them anyway. I don't know
• 1:50:40
  if that If you know, I'm pretty sure at some time, at some
• 1:50:45
  particular age, they stop, you know, but for the must like you
• 1:50:49
  see babies coop and that's something and you you're standing there next to the baby
• 1:50:55
  and you see ain't nothing there, but it's sure responding to something, you
• 1:51:00
  know, so you know, kids can see them. I think there's an
• 1:51:05
  innocence factor there to where they don't know bad or good or whatever. So
• 1:51:11
  I think there's an innocence factor there. But a concrete answer couldn't tell you
• 1:51:15
  you couldn't. I know, well, us have all the answers. We
• 1:51:18
  don't have all the answers. Shout out to Drewski a Crypted Warfare podcast.
• 1:51:24
  Drewsky and I are going dog man, I was gonna say on a well,
• 1:51:28
  on an expedition. Let's just say very soon. So, uh yeah,
• 1:51:32
  I got to get geared up this week. By the way, Drew,
• 1:51:35
  thank you for listening to us. I'm going to be seeing you shortly,
• 1:51:39
  okay, pretty soon. Uh So, yeah, we're in for We're
• 1:51:43
  in for an interesting couple of several days. Let's just say several days.
• 1:51:47
  But Tony, this is one of the guys. I'm going dog man hunting.
• 1:51:51
  Okay, not hunting, it's hunting not you know, we don't have
• 1:51:56
  a hurting anything. Okaysily, a hunt don't necessarily involve killing anything. You
• 1:52:02
  can dress because address Okay, hunting is hunting is actually another word for looking.
• 1:52:12
  We're looking, we're looking, we're looking for hard, we're looking hard.
• 1:52:15
  Actually, we know that if we just put ourselves in the right place,
• 1:52:19
  they're going to come looking for us, right right, And that's really
• 1:52:23
  what we do right with a lot of our research, Tony, is we
• 1:52:25
  don't go we put ourselves in the area where they are, and then if
• 1:52:29
  we'll just chill out, they're gonna come to us. Ye, just like
• 1:52:32
  we said earlier, how Bob Bob was always getting all the action back at
• 1:52:36
  base camp when we're out there trotting through the woods looking for it. You
• 1:52:41
  know. Really the only thing you know, as far as when we're researching
• 1:52:45
  and stuff, one thing we do and we go into an area, especially
• 1:52:46
  a new area, is you're kind of going in and you're going out,
• 1:52:49
  and you're really looking for signs that you're not wasting your time being there.
• 1:52:54
  You're looking for signs of being there, or of prints, wood structures,
• 1:53:01
  possibly hair, if you can sounds. You know, you're looking just looking
• 1:53:05
  for a sign. Yeah, this thing is here. Okay, So we
• 1:53:09
  get the sign that is there, we understand that it's there. Then we
• 1:53:11
  just set up camp and just sit and wait kind of ignore it, but
• 1:53:15
  not ignore it to draw it in. Yeah. Oh yeah. I mean
• 1:53:23
  if you if you just go out and you ignore it kind of and you
• 1:53:26
  have fun and you kind of forget about it, that's when it happens.
• 1:53:29
  It's kind of the same one. If you want to like manifest anything right
• 1:53:32
  anytime. I mean some of the secrets to manifesting, okay, because I'm
• 1:53:36
  I'm pretty good at manifesting stuff by accident. And that's why I have to
• 1:53:43
  keep my thoughts controlled in a way because if I I mean, you know,
• 1:53:47
  you ever watched that movie Carrie. Yeah, yes, at the end,
• 1:53:53
  I'm not saying I would ever do that. I'm just saying I I
• 1:53:57
  just know that, like my mind is very I'm very powerful. We all
• 1:54:00
  are. We're all very powerful, okay, And whenever I think of something.
• 1:54:03
  That's why I quit watching those scary shows I quit watching in the first
• 1:54:08
  forty eight because I was watching it so much. It ended up. I
• 1:54:12
  always said, if I watched this too much, it's going to end up
• 1:54:14
  on my doorstep. And sure enough, Tony, they started filming on my
• 1:54:17
  street. Okay, eventually, yes indicator Georgia, Yes, sir. Sure,
• 1:54:24
  And so I quit watching it because I don't want to manifest something negative
• 1:54:30
  by thinking negatively about something or watching something that's little vibrational like that. It
• 1:54:34
  won't manifest into my life if I allow it, or if I and it's
• 1:54:38
  not even if I allow it. It's like you do it inadvertently because you're
• 1:54:42
  that's what you're focused on, but you're not really focused on it, but
• 1:54:44
  you are, and it'll start manifesting into your life. Okay, and so,
• 1:54:48
  but we can use that to our advantage when it comes to cryptids and
• 1:54:53
  stuff. You know, you put the intention out you go camping, you
• 1:54:57
  want to see a bigfoot, or you want to have an experience with the
• 1:55:00
  dog man or whatever. But you wanted to be positive. Okay, maybe
• 1:55:03
  not positive, just not just not violent or negative. You want to positive.
• 1:55:08
  Positive That means walking out, Yes, in there a minute, look
• 1:55:11
  at me and keep it moving. Positive from a distance, right from a
• 1:55:17
  distance. Don't come up and scare us and breathe on me when I'm sleeping
• 1:55:21
  okay, but but we go out there with the intention of having an experience.
• 1:55:29
  Okay, well, then go out there and if the less we try,
• 1:55:33
  probably the more possible it will it will be to happen. Okay,
• 1:55:38
  just go there and start having fun and it'll it'll happen. And that's pretty
• 1:55:42
  much how bigfoot research goes because a lot of the times when we're actually out
• 1:55:46
  there and you know, you're in the field, you know, you don't
• 1:55:51
  see anything. The exception is that you do see something as far as a
• 1:55:57
  creature walking or something, you know, like like like when I, like
• 1:56:01
  my first my first sighting was when I chased one. That was my first
• 1:56:04
  actual sighting. But you know, we were out there just basically just looking
• 1:56:10
  and looking for signs and then that happened to have show up. But that
• 1:56:15
  was an exception, not the rule. You know. The second time when
• 1:56:19
  we were we had one up there camping, I had my little my son,
• 1:56:23
  my firstborn son with me at the time. He was probably two or
• 1:56:26
  three years old. So we were camping in the same area but not the
• 1:56:30
  same location that we did our research in and as me and my father in
• 1:56:35
  law, my ex wife and my and my mother in law and my son,
• 1:56:42
  and they started getting late, so they were going to bed, and
• 1:56:45
  we were going to go around on the creek and sit there and chat because
• 1:56:48
  we were being loud. It was we were just having a good old time.
• 1:56:53
  Wasn't even thinking about a bigfoot. Wasn't even thinking about a bigfoot.
• 1:56:58
  And we'd get like, going to go down into the creek and this thing
• 1:57:01
  it comes to the woodline basically, and you can see its eyes reflecting off
• 1:57:06
  of the campfire light, and it started doing doing that number, and I
• 1:57:13
  was like, Mark, what the heck is that? And he's looking eye
• 1:57:17
  level and he finally looks up and he goes to drawa's gun and I stopped
• 1:57:21
  him from shooting at it because you can hear other things walking around the woods
• 1:57:27
  over there. And it started it did that for a little bit and then
• 1:57:31
  it just turned in through the brush coming up. We never heard it,
• 1:57:38
  and we were we were talking loud as we were going down toward that way.
• 1:57:42
  But when it stepped out, it was like, because you know,
• 1:57:45
  we stopped and it stopped, and we're like, okay, and it just
• 1:57:50
  we heard it leave, but we never heard it come. And it and
• 1:57:54
  it and when it left it just was. It was just it just went
• 1:57:58
  through the brush like the like just well at like you know, to your
• 1:58:04
  point, we weren't looking for it. We wasn't even we had we wasn't
• 1:58:10
  even researching. Oh yeah, well you know that was like when when I
• 1:58:15
  had that experience. We had the experience with the ufo uh at one of
• 1:58:18
  the spots that I was at, we call it Ufo Field. Now,
• 1:58:20
  I was with e RG and we were out there and my buddy j T
• 1:58:25
  and I were we were stalking out we were we were trying to blend into
• 1:58:30
  the environment for a large amount of time I'm talking about from three in the
• 1:58:33
  afternoon until after midnight that night, trying to blend in with the environment.
• 1:58:36
  And we were we were determined to have a big foot step on us.
• 1:58:40
  Okay were we knew, we knew it was going to happen, and we
• 1:58:44
  had a plan and the team was all in on it. And we ended
• 1:58:47
  up not having a big foot experience at all, but we ended up having
• 1:58:51
  UFOs and like possible et stuff happening to us. But we weren't expecting that.
• 1:58:57
  We weren't looking for that. We were looking for big foot. We
• 1:58:59
  were folks us on Bigfoot. We knew it was going to be a big
• 1:59:01
  Foot kind of thing, and we ended up getting more than we were expecting.
• 1:59:06
  Yeah, with that because we weren't. We weren't focused on that,
• 1:59:10
  right, you wasn't even thinking about a uf and then hearing that come.
• 1:59:15
  I know as a kid, I might have been. I was. I
• 1:59:18
  would say, you know, oh, man, the seventies big not Bigfoot,
• 1:59:23
  but yeah, bigfoot. UFOs a lot in This monster was kind of,
• 1:59:27
  you know, very very popular. So on Saturday nights, you know,
• 1:59:30
  we would watch Doctor Who and War the Worlds and stuff, some of
• 1:59:36
  these old seventies UFO movies. So I was and when i'd go to bed,
• 1:59:43
  i'd be I'd be scared. I was terrified of UFOs and stuff.
• 1:59:47
  And there was there was one night and I don't know, see I had
• 1:59:57
  my head on the covers, so but I don't know if if if there
• 2:00:01
  was something in the room, and I'm pretty sure it wasn't. I probably
• 2:00:03
  was hearing something crazy. But this is why I sleep with the radio on
• 2:00:09
  to this day. So I'm in the room and I hear I don't know
• 2:00:16
  where it was even coming from. I couldn't tell you but in my mind,
• 2:00:21
  I didn't I'm invaded. All I got when I'm here, all I
• 2:00:27
  got little green Man around my bed and I'm under the covers, and it
• 2:00:31
  just was I don't know, I just they don't know what the heck that
• 2:00:36
  was. But I attributed it to the UFO. And there was no light
• 2:00:40
  in the room. There was no I was my window crack. I think
• 2:00:45
  my window might have been cracked, but it was I remember that to this
• 2:00:50
  day. I was it was like it was real load though you know,
• 2:00:56
  it wasn't like it was loud. It was just because the house was so
• 2:00:59
  quiet. You can hear anything in that thing, and it was It was
• 2:01:03
  just was to day what that was. But I was terrified. Oh gosh,
• 2:01:11
  do you remember what happened after you heard that? Did you fall asleep
• 2:01:15
  or did you just sit up and listen for the rest of the night.
• 2:01:16
  Well, I think I went to sleep because I was probably let's see,
• 2:01:25
  that was nine forty four McCain. I might have been ten or eleven some
• 2:01:31
  around there between ten and twelve. Yep, nothing hit now. Actually I
• 2:01:36
  was under the covers and I was wild away hearing it. You know,
• 2:01:41
  I didn't see no lights I didn't hear no footsteps, but in my mind
• 2:01:45
  because I don't watch Doctor Who in all these day alien movies, So to
• 2:01:51
  me, I'm surrounded. I'm surrounded. I didn't even want to get up
• 2:01:56
  to go pee. I'm surrounded. So that was only in my mind now
• 2:02:00
  because I'm wide awake. I didn't feel nothing, you know. But yeah,
• 2:02:04
  I don't know what that well, it sounds. It sounds like it
• 2:02:09
  was similar to what you experienced as an adult where you so he Adolf.
• 2:02:13
  Adolf was asking, did you hear metallic sounds? Okay, well, Adolf,
• 2:02:16
  you I think earlier tonight, Tony was telling us about hearing chains and
• 2:02:23
  hearing a voice in his ear. Okay, very ghostly kind of voice,
• 2:02:28
  almost a little demonic actually, okay, but but more good. Let's just
• 2:02:31
  say ghostly that was that was a demon? A demon? Okay, Tony
• 2:02:36
  said it said, that's what that was. Yep. Yeah. So but
• 2:02:45
  it's almost like you you've had these experiences since you were a kid. Yeah,
• 2:02:48
  that I like, I don't know if that's I can't say one percent
• 2:02:56
  that was an actual alien things. Like I said, I have been watching
• 2:03:00
  doctor I have been watching oh some kind I watched some kind of UFO stuff
• 2:03:06
  because I was already scared to go to bed because I don't watch this stuff.
• 2:03:11
  So but that I don't know what that was. That could have been
• 2:03:14
  the radio from another room. I don't know, but it was just and
• 2:03:17
  in my head, I'm I'm I'm invaded. You know. It was to
• 2:03:23
  me so and and well in two Okay, yes, Scott, I don't
• 2:03:29
  know if you were here earlier tonight, Hay Scott. Uh, Tony does
• 2:03:31
  like Metallica too, Okay, So I don't know if Adol was saying.
• 2:03:34
  I think he was mean metalent but but you also like Metallica too. And
• 2:03:41
  that's the one thing that I can play. I can play the intro to
• 2:03:44
  nothing else matter on a guitar. Okay, that's the only song I know.
• 2:03:46
  That's the only song I know. Yeah, I can play that on
• 2:03:49
  guitar. I was. I used to be pretty good at it. I
• 2:03:53
  know, useless information one oh one tribu address, But yeah, I love
• 2:03:59
  I love some Metallica's by the way, right, great music. But uh,
• 2:04:03
  but yeah, a lot of a lot of interesting information it's coming out
• 2:04:09
  of you tonight, Tony. Yeah, I've I've liked like the paranormal,
• 2:04:16
  supernatural. That's nothing to me. It's not weird. It's just it's it's
• 2:04:21
  part of being human. You know, these things are there. Yeah,
• 2:04:27
  it's just you know what, I coexist with the paranormal. I think I've
• 2:04:30
  been told actually, when I was younger, I was told that I live
• 2:04:32
  with one foot in this world and the other foot in another. While.
• 2:04:36
  Yeah, in a reality and in true reality all of us do you know?
• 2:04:44
  All of us? Do you know? Because you know, our our
• 2:04:48
  being, our makeup is body, soul, and spirit, you know,
• 2:04:54
  and some don't separate the soul and spirit, but I, you know,
• 2:04:58
  I kind of you know, you got three three things your body, which
• 2:05:00
  is your physical being, your soul which is your mental faculties, and your
• 2:05:04
  spirit, which is your eternal being. And if any of those separate,
• 2:05:09
  nothing operates. Yeah, you know. That's that's something that I really appreciated
• 2:05:15
  about when I met the guys with Enigma Research Group, my original my OG
• 2:05:19
  Bigfoot research group, they were really into the mind, body spirit aspect of
• 2:05:26
  sasquatch and cryptos, right, And I think that was something that you know,
• 2:05:31
  people in the bigfoot research field a lot. When I first got into
• 2:05:36
  like when I went public, and I because I never I never watched any
• 2:05:40
  YouTube channels about bigfoot. I was in my own little bubble with my teams.
• 2:05:44
  I never watched YouTube, I never watched anything. I never went to
• 2:05:47
  websites looking for bigfoot stuff. We were just doing our own thing, okay.
• 2:05:51
  And then when I got into like doing shows, I saw that there
• 2:05:55
  was a divide. Hey, because we got the primate in the wood camp
• 2:05:58
  and then we got the WU Camps Natural X Factor Camp. And I'm one
• 2:06:01
  hundred percent X Factor okay, because I think that there there's a solid flesh
• 2:06:05
  and bone being. But I also have seen with my own eyes and my
• 2:06:11
  own body, like I know with everything in my being, there's something else
• 2:06:15
  going on with bigfoot. There's a spiritual to it, okay. And uh,
• 2:06:19
  and I think that that's we can't discount that, And I think that
• 2:06:24
  we should look in that when we're trying to understand what these things are.
• 2:06:28
  Yeah, well that's that's us, that's that's being you to a t because
• 2:06:31
  I'm one hundred percent primate, you know, I'm bless and blood beat creature
• 2:06:38
  me and yeah, and my whole team. Uh, the leader of it,
• 2:06:43
  he would he would say, stuff, and we me and him would
• 2:06:45
  go back and forth all some type will right, just back and forth,
• 2:06:50
  and he would say, well, bigfoot blinks in and blinks out. And
• 2:06:56
  how when he would say it, you know, because we would be talking
• 2:06:59
  of big okay, and we would just be you know, on our in
• 2:07:01
  our little just going talking, and then he would just slide that in there,
• 2:07:08
  and he would know that would stir me up. And then then we're
• 2:07:11
  then we're going back, I said, man, he don't blink in and
• 2:07:13
  out. There's no blinking, you know, and so then we then there,
• 2:07:16
  then we then there we go. But he fully believed that his term
• 2:07:21
  was it would blink in and blink out. And what he was just what
• 2:07:26
  he where he was describing was you know, you follow a set of tracks,
• 2:07:30
  and you'd be in a field, you follow us the track, and
• 2:07:32
  then they just vanish and then you may pick him up again somewhere else in
• 2:07:38
  the field or something. So to him, it was blinking in and blinking
• 2:07:42
  out. And he would say he would he actually come to the conclusion,
• 2:07:45
  he said, I think they dimension walk. He said, they'll they'll they'll
• 2:07:50
  walk along, you know, in the physical realm. But if they don't
• 2:07:54
  want you to see him, they will basically transfer to another dimension. So
• 2:07:59
  he would call a dimension walkin. So we would always I was always the
• 2:08:05
  primate and he was always the woo, so to speak. And we would
• 2:08:09
  we would, we would just go back and forth. But it was I
• 2:08:15
  didn't never unless I was cutting up with him, because we would cut up
• 2:08:18
  back and forth all the time. We were like brothers basically. But I
• 2:08:22
  you know, I would never discount what he said, you know. I
• 2:08:28
  was like, okay, okay, I can't explain it, but he's still
• 2:08:33
  blood, you know, maybeards you know something you know, but you know,
• 2:08:37
  so I wouldn't. I wouldn't because I see the thing is, I
• 2:08:41
  don't know. There are things we do know. There's things that are a
• 2:08:45
  lot of theory, you know. So when it gets to the mystery,
• 2:08:50
  I'm not afraid to say I have no idea that that's a mystery. You
• 2:08:54
  know. If somebody tells me too a or I at you, I don't
• 2:09:03
  know what to tell you on that. He if you saw a saf squats
• 2:09:07
  turn into an orb, and I've seen I've seen it. I've seen an
• 2:09:13
  alien turn into an orb before. Actually there's a video Matt Matthew delf has
• 2:09:18
  a video. He showed it at the conference today, and it's one that
• 2:09:20
  I talk about a lot, and I hope that one day he'll come on
• 2:09:24
  my show and show it to the world. I hope here's well. I
• 2:09:28
  hope I don't never see. Let's say, if we're we're out researching or
• 2:09:33
  something, right and I walk up on the big Foot and he's right there
• 2:09:37
  and he's looking at me, and I'm looking at it and it vanished.
• 2:09:41
  My researching is over. I'm done, you sund like Craig. Craig said
• 2:09:48
  that. Craig was like, you know, I was out, there's all
• 2:09:48
  fun and games. We're looking for a big old monkey in the woods.
• 2:09:52
  He was like, then we come in and ET and ET comes down,
• 2:09:54
  and then we got all the He's like, I can't do He's like,
• 2:09:58
  we're never going fine, He's like, he was like, it's just it's
• 2:10:01
  not possible. He was like, because they can just disappear into portals and
• 2:10:05
  I don't know what's going on anymore at that point. If I physically see
• 2:10:09
  that, and I'll research it up to that point, let's looking at it
• 2:10:13
  and then it just materialize. I can't do nothing with that. Yeah.
• 2:10:18
  Well, okay, well here here's what I say. Okay, so we
• 2:10:22
  talk about them being interdimensional sometimes. Some people say that, and I've always
• 2:10:26
  said, well, there's an X factor to it. We're not exactly sure
• 2:10:28
  how it works. What's going on. You explained it very well tonight though,
• 2:10:33
  with beings that come in and out and they slow down so we can
• 2:10:35
  see them because they're vibrating differently than we are. Okay, Well, I
• 2:10:41
  believe that we have portals here on Earth. We have natural portals, we
• 2:10:46
  have man made portals sometimes, And when we say interdimensional, I think that
• 2:10:50
  that just means they're walking, they're utilizing these portals. It doesn't mean that
• 2:10:54
  they're just disappearing in the thin air. They're using something that defies like time
• 2:10:58
  and space, like Aholder's stepping into it because they can. I mean,
• 2:11:03
  shoot, I mean we could too if we found a portal somewhere and that's
• 2:11:05
  where maybe that's where some of these missing people are going and stuff at our
• 2:11:09
  national parks, you know, and see that. Uh me and me and
• 2:11:15
  a guy of mine at where a buddy of mine at work. We get
• 2:11:16
  to talking about these portals and and I'll be like, Okay, so I've
• 2:11:22
  done research on bigfoot. I'm not I'm not researched ghosts, but I know
• 2:11:28
  they're there, you know. I've had it an encounter here or there with
• 2:11:31
  that. But a portal and the portals, man, here's why, here's
• 2:11:39
  what. Here's here's my trouble with portals. Okay, okay, let's hear
• 2:11:43
  it. If thinking about how I am with the spiritual and the natural,
• 2:11:50
  Okay, to me, there's no need of a portal if it's a being
• 2:11:56
  of a spiritual stance, because there's nothing to go, there's there's there's no
• 2:12:01
  reason for it. You know, you're talking because a portal, a portal
• 2:12:05
  is going to transfer something. The intention of a portal is to move it
• 2:12:09
  from point A to point B, or point A to opposite point a.
• 2:12:15
  Okay, so we're still referring to time. But if a being can move
• 2:12:22
  at the speed of thought, there's no why would it have to have a
• 2:12:26
  portal? Now, the next question, the next question is, well,
• 2:12:31
  because the Sasquatch are physical beings, right right, So so the next question
• 2:12:37
  I have on that is people are seeing something? Yeah, there is now
• 2:12:46
  there is something even on with that and more so more so now is that
• 2:12:58
  Secret of Skin walk Around. That's my favorite show. Now, by the
• 2:13:01
  way, I need to start working that. It's pretty intense because they're using
• 2:13:05
  straight science. Straight science too basically take measurements and are getting visual pictures not
• 2:13:20
  from a photography camera but from the equipment that they're using, and portals are
• 2:13:26
  basically showing up. So here we are, you know, now here we
• 2:13:35
  are have these discussions. I mean, I think it's cool just to talk
• 2:13:39
  about it and just hear everybody's different experiences and our thoughts on it. Yeah,
• 2:13:46
  and you know, and like I'll always try to all right, So
• 2:13:50
  if this is happening here, can I find this in the Bible? Anywhere?
• 2:13:54
  Can I? Can I Can I see something is opening up or anything
• 2:14:00
  like that? And I haven't found that other than there's one place where it
• 2:14:07
  talks about in Revelation where it talks about the Angel of the bottomless Pit opening
• 2:14:13
  opening it up to allow three spirits like frogs to come through. But this
• 2:14:20
  this location is in the Euphrates River. That's that's that's dried up. So
• 2:14:28
  you know, could could that be a portal? Uh? Could that be
• 2:14:33
  what's described as a portal, you know, so, but that's kind of
• 2:14:37
  where I that's the only thing I can see that would pretty much be a
• 2:14:45
  type of portal in the Bible, that is. But I don't know.
• 2:14:50
  Hey, I can appreciate that you've looked for it in the you see,
• 2:14:58
  because to me, if if I wrote about it, then all right something
• 2:15:01
  And I do understand that the way thing? All right, so you're talking
• 2:15:07
  to ancient people that don't have the necessary the vocabulary that we have to describe
• 2:15:13
  what we're seeing today. Like somebody from three thousand years ago, how would
• 2:15:18
  they describe a helicopter today? A bird? Right? But you gotta figure
• 2:15:24
  out look at what they're they're used to a bird that has wings that flat,
• 2:15:28
  not spin around in the circle. How would they describe that? You
• 2:15:33
  see what I'm saying. So there's a there's there's there's things I have to
• 2:15:37
  when I look at I'm like, okay, what are if I'm an ancient
• 2:15:41
  person looking at this thing with their vocabulary that's limited, how what am I
• 2:15:45
  looking at? You know? What looks like? Uhh, dragon in the
• 2:15:52
  sky? What looks you know what would Because they're gonna drive, they're gonna
• 2:15:56
  they're going to describe things in association with what they know and are looking at
• 2:16:03
  at that present time. You know, So if they've seen the disc in
• 2:16:05
  the sky, they're not going to describe it as a metallic disc in the
• 2:16:09
  sky. They're gonna say something like I saw two suns, or the mood
• 2:16:16
  and the sun was there together. You see what I'm saying, Look at
• 2:16:22
  that stuff. Yeah, you know, I just I just did a show
• 2:16:26
  and I talked about this in my presentation today at the World UFO Conference.
• 2:16:31
  I talked about the Battle of Los Angeles. But when I was talking about
• 2:16:33
  the Battle of Los Angeles, I was talking about the celestial what are they
• 2:16:39
  call it? The celestial event or something of was it? I want to
• 2:16:43
  say fifteen sixty one. I think I was fifteen sixty one, and there
• 2:16:48
  was another one in sixteen sixty something. Okay, We've had these celestial events
• 2:16:54
  that happened where it looked like UFOs. It was like a UFO battle in
• 2:16:58
  the sky. And these have been documented for centuries. Yeah, and it's
• 2:17:03
  interesting to see how they describe it in newspapers, you know, in their
• 2:17:07
  literature right back the right. See, and here's something that the Bible does
• 2:17:11
  say that that I don't think we kind of click on the Bible says it
• 2:17:16
  like this, there is nothing new under the sun. So what we're dealing
• 2:17:24
  with is ancient things. See that show Ancient Alien drives me insane. It
• 2:17:31
  just it literally drives me insane because they'll, you know, they you know,
• 2:17:35
  a lot of it is, well, how can they do this and
• 2:17:37
  why is this and where did this come from? And my my immediate response
• 2:17:41
  is it's giants. It's nefilin. They have and they got divine knowledge that
• 2:17:48
  they're conveying on how to do this stuff. That's it's that's and I'm screaming
• 2:17:54
  at the TV. That's what it is. Oh yeah, oh yeah,
• 2:18:01
  I'm getting to Alien. That's a pretty culture. I haven't watched it in
• 2:18:03
  a long time, but let me tell you that show really they started waking
• 2:18:07
  a lot of people up. Okay, there's like key shows that I remember
• 2:18:11
  throughout the past I'm going to say ten years that have really done like leaps
• 2:18:18
  and bounds for the human consciousness. I think like Awakening especially, that's one
• 2:18:24
  of them. I like it when they really because you know, they go
• 2:18:28
  into a lot of archaeology and they go into and it's not necessarily biblical,
• 2:18:33
  although they do talk about the Bible at times, but they more or less
• 2:18:37
  go to the other ancient cultures that were around at the time of the Bible,
• 2:18:43
  and they look like the Epic of Gilgamesh, do Ugarritic texts and stuff
• 2:18:46
  like that, Kumaran scrolls and various things, the Cuneiform tablets, Kode of
• 2:18:50
  Hammurabi, all these ancient texts that are describing these entities and beings and things
• 2:19:01
  that we're that we're seeing, that we're seeing today, and there was.
• 2:19:05
  Now here's something that that really has interest me more so than anything that I've
• 2:19:13
  ever seen. And it is a rock structure. It's it's a it's a
• 2:19:18
  rock. Okay, it's a it's a rock. And somehow at the time
• 2:19:26
  this this it was it stands upright now, but at the time it was
• 2:19:31
  part of the earth. Okay, you might have seen it. I see
• 2:19:35
  it on YouTube. Okay, But in this rock is a footprint. The
• 2:19:41
  footprint is six point I'll just say six foot tall. That's the size of
• 2:19:52
  the footprint. And it is a legit footprint that you see where it it's
• 2:20:00
  stepp and the mud went between the toes and it lifts up. You see
• 2:20:05
  this footprint, but it's it's it's on a rock face like this, but
• 2:20:11
  at the time the rock was laying down and it, you know, over
• 2:20:15
  one hundreds and thousand years, has got pushed up. But it's and in
• 2:20:22
  in in in Islamic culture. Under in the Qur'an, it talks about Adam
• 2:20:28
  and Eve, but when it describes them and Eve, they're giants, they're
• 2:20:31
  they're very, very tall. So you know that has always intrigued me.
• 2:20:39
  Oh okay, yeah, absolutely. What what do you think about giants?
• 2:20:45
  Okay, because we have Look, you're pretty tall yourself, Tony. Okay,
• 2:20:48
  I'm gonna say that that footprint is almost as tall as you, but
• 2:20:52
  not quite. You're really tall. What do you think about the true giants?
• 2:20:58
  Okay, that's another thing I know that's in the whole of the rabbit
• 2:21:00
  hole. We don't need to be here for three whole hours saying, I
• 2:21:03
  know you probably need to go to bed, but I mean, I just
• 2:21:07
  would love to know, like your opinion on on the giants, the giant
• 2:21:11
  bones and things. So my my opinion on the giants goes back to Genesis
• 2:21:18
  chapter six, you know, and that and that you know, the angels
• 2:21:22
  came and you know fallen angels, you know, cohabitated with women and produced
• 2:21:28
  that race of giants. Now, some texts have them at no more than
• 2:21:37
  seven six to seven feet tall, and then there are some ancient texts that
• 2:21:43
  have them upwards of thirteen to fourteen feet tall. Okay, so Goliath,
• 2:21:52
  you know, was it was a giant, you know, And I see
• 2:21:54
  a lot of when I see people talking about giants, they talked about them
• 2:22:01
  as in the sense of like they were cave men and didn't have a lot
• 2:22:07
  of intelligence. But when I when I go back into the biblical record,
• 2:22:13
  there were a plethora of giants that built cities that like a lot like the
• 2:22:20
  Iron Ages and all these things that that was the result of the information that
• 2:22:26
  giants was given to mankind. I fully believe one of the percent that the
• 2:22:31
  giants it were it was giants that built the pyramids in Giza, that there
• 2:22:41
  were giants involved giants and oh yeah, your extraterrestrials. That was one of
• 2:22:45
  my blind targets. And if if you if you look at the the Hirold
• 2:22:50
  glyphs in Egypt, and you see how where you got this this this being
• 2:22:56
  sitting on the throne, and and you got the people kind of like bowling
• 2:23:01
  down to them. If you if you were to stand that being up and
• 2:23:05
  stand up people straight up, you'll see that this being is a giant.
• 2:23:09
  So giants were all over the Middle East. They were they were I think,
• 2:23:18
  well, now we're here the giant and Kandamarth. Yeah. Yeah,
• 2:23:24
  and see there's another Like the thing with the giants is what the problem is
• 2:23:28
  what happens when they die there it's their spirits that we're dealing with still today.
• 2:23:35
  You know there are that those are demons that when a giant died,
• 2:23:41
  the the it's judgment was to roam the earth until the time that it receives
• 2:23:50
  its final judgment. So like we're a human being, when we pass away,
• 2:23:56
  our spirit goes to heaven, right, so but a but a giant,
• 2:24:01
  because it's not supposed to even be here. It's its punishment is to
• 2:24:07
  roam the earth until the time of until the time of judgment. That's why.
• 2:24:09
  And and they seek so their torment is being disembodied. Okay, So
• 2:24:16
  they seek a body to inhabit. And that's why you reading the New testamenthre
• 2:24:22
  Jesus meets the the Gatherine that that had the legion in him, and it
• 2:24:28
  runs up to him and says, what are you doing here? Have you
• 2:24:31
  come to torment us before the time, because there's a time of judgment for
• 2:24:35
  it, and it knew who he was. So that is my take on
• 2:24:41
  giants. They were. They were all over the the Middle East before and
• 2:24:50
  when the after and after the flood, they came back to the same thing
• 2:24:52
  again. Now I'm not gonna say that they they could have came back again
• 2:25:01
  after the Biblical period, hens to John of Kandahar. Yeah, well,
• 2:25:07
  some people believe that the giants live in inner Earth, They live in caves,
• 2:25:11
  they come out of caves sometimes. And you know, there are some
• 2:25:15
  whistleblowers people that have videos of giants, alleged giants that have resurfaced walking on
• 2:25:24
  the sides of mountains, and some of these people have been disappeared, okay
• 2:25:28
  for exposing it. I mean, I just did a show recently on let's
• 2:25:33
  just say the probability of there being giants in stasis chambers, okay, all
• 2:25:39
  over the world. Also, that giant of Canahar, Let's just let me
• 2:25:43
  just talk about that for a half second, because that was one of my
• 2:25:46
  remote viewing targets, and the data was talking about off world civilizations, it
• 2:25:52
  was talking about the elite, it was talking about the nWo and taking samples
• 2:26:00
  for cloning purposes of something whatever. It was remote viewing. I didn't know
• 2:26:05
  what it was. Yea cloning and stuff. Yeah, yeah, that makes
• 2:26:09
  sense to you like that, that would make sense, right, yeah,
• 2:26:13
  oh yeah. See, Oh man, I know it's deep. Right,
• 2:26:18
  you're just gonna have to come back on the show. We'll do so much.
• 2:26:26
  See, there is so much. See, there's a dark plan.
• 2:26:33
  There's basically just a dark plan of developing this new World order in the see
• 2:26:41
  and basically what you're having is it's it's not even the New World Order.
• 2:26:46
  It's ill. I will like to I like to call it an Old World
• 2:26:50
  establishment because basically what they're doing is what's happening is they're trying to re enact
• 2:26:58
  the Tower of Battle, where everybody becomes under one roof, under one ruler.
• 2:27:03
  The question is who this ruler. That's the problem. One ruler,
• 2:27:07
  and there's gonna be things that's gonna be taking place that we're not gonna be
• 2:27:16
  able to believe what we're seeing, because it's gonna be the deception, and
• 2:27:22
  it's already starting with you know, you have these deep fakes. You got
• 2:27:26
  this AI you got, you know, AI generated pictures and AI generated thing
• 2:27:31
  you got, you got. AI is going to play a big role in
• 2:27:37
  this these coming years, and we're being conditioned for. You're gonna see giants
• 2:27:46
  and if if you don't see giants, you'll see men of normal stature with
• 2:27:50
  the strength and the mind and the and the mental capacity of these giants.
• 2:27:56
  You know, like we were talking about the hybrid tiger and the liger.
• 2:28:01
  Yes, you'll see he'll be You're gonna you're gonna see what will be a
• 2:28:09
  human, normal human man or woman, but he'll have the strength the knowledge
• 2:28:18
  of a giant. That's because of the They will either take the DNA infuse
• 2:28:26
  it with a normal trying to build a super soldier, super soldier. That
• 2:28:31
  was that's part of that data for that giant and candleheart stuff, trying to
• 2:28:35
  build a super soldier. But the super soldier won't be comfort specific. It'll
• 2:28:39
  be it'll be it'll be made for the one World government because everybody will want
• 2:28:46
  a piece of it, and it'll put every nation on a level playing field.
• 2:28:52
  Okay, do you think that. Let me answer this question first,
• 2:28:56
  and I got a question for you. Okay, reindigenizing minds, send me,
• 2:29:01
  send me your information, Go to my website, the Crypti Hunt,
• 2:29:03
  or go send me an email the Cryptied Hunters at gmail dot com. Okay,
• 2:29:07
  I'd be glad to He'll be looking too some stuff. Okay, that
• 2:29:09
  sounds fun. That's what I do. Okay, that's what I do for
• 2:29:13
  fun. Okay, So, Tony, do you think that you and I
• 2:29:16
  are speaking publicly about our research? And I think that experienced? Do you
• 2:29:22
  feel like you and even me because I feel like I've been called to do
• 2:29:26
  this. I would have never thought i'd be doing this, you know,
• 2:29:28
  ten twenty years ago, talking about cryptids to the world. Okay, do
• 2:29:33
  you think we've been called to do this because of what is ahead right now?
• 2:29:39
  And it's kind of helping prepare people a little bit by sharing our experiences
• 2:29:43
  with creatures that aren't supposed to exist that I don't know, I really don't
• 2:29:48
  know. I know for me, my calling is really to bridge a gap
• 2:29:56
  between Jewish and Christians believers, to you know, establish that relationship as far
• 2:30:07
  as the Bigfoot goes. It's I don't know if it's a calling as much
• 2:30:16
  as an opportunity, you know, to to to to share, to share
• 2:30:22
  the stuff. And you know, because when I started, none of this
• 2:30:26
  was happening, and this has gotten broad, has gotten why, there's a
• 2:30:30
  lot of there's a lot of questions, a lot of speculations. You know.
• 2:30:33
  I would hope that the information I give will keep people grounded, and
• 2:30:39
  not to just go after tangents and stuff, but to but to equip them
• 2:30:43
  to say, okay that that may be this, or this may be that,
• 2:30:46
  and no that ain't right, you know, to just to be able
• 2:30:50
  to equip people to make better judgment calls on things. Now, if is
• 2:30:56
  it a calling, I don't. I don't, I can't, I can't.
• 2:31:00
  I don't know. I don't know. You don't. You don't talk
• 2:31:05
  out as much as I do about it. Okay, So I think that
• 2:31:09
  this is a I think the cryptids the media is like a medium of like
• 2:31:16
  of sharing other information with everybody too, you know, like the experiences,
• 2:31:20
  the energy that we're putting out to I don't know, maybe help move things
• 2:31:24
  along a little bit. I mean, I'm trying to figure some things out
• 2:31:26
  myself. Okay, I'm trying to figure this out. People are all right,
• 2:31:31
  So people are needed to expose to put a voice to the voice list,
• 2:31:39
  so to speak, because a lot of people are afraid to talk about
• 2:31:43
  this stuff. They see this, they see something, but they can't talk
• 2:31:48
  about it because nobody's want to believe them. So you provide a platform for
• 2:31:54
  people to discuss what they saw, to try to put it, give it
• 2:31:58
  some kind of perspective, you know. So in a sense, yeah,
• 2:32:05
  that's a that that's a calling, that's something you know, you're you're you're
• 2:32:07
  providing a help and a resource for people who are experiencing some some stuff and
• 2:32:16
  you're you know, you're that welcome voice. Yeah, you can talk about
• 2:32:20
  it. Let's talk about let's let's let you know, don't keep that in
• 2:32:24
  let's discuss this. Let's find out what's going on, you know, and
• 2:32:26
  you basically take them by the hand as well as on your own journey to
• 2:32:31
  discover the truth. There's a thing you never know the magnitude or how many
• 2:32:37
  people you have truly helped to overcome talking about this stuff, bringing closure to
• 2:32:46
  something. Oh yeah, we're all helping each other. We're helping each other.
• 2:32:50
  Absolutely, We're all just walking each other home. That's what my friend
• 2:32:54
  Bryce says, Right, we are. I think I think I hit a
• 2:33:00
  all time record tonight with this show. We've gone over two and a half
• 2:33:03
  hours. Tony. So yeah, I know, I know everybody. We're
• 2:33:07
  all getting tired people. I know. It's it's about bedtime for us old
• 2:33:11
  folks over here. Okay, But Tony, I mean I could talk to
• 2:33:15
  you all day and all night. Okay, you are just you are so
• 2:33:18
  fascinating to talk with. And uh, and I go back. Maybe we
• 2:33:24
  can talk about giants. I'll bring you back on some time, anytime you
• 2:33:26
  want, you come to me, okay, And we can do a giant
• 2:33:30
  episode. Okay. Sometimes I can give you my I'll give you my full
• 2:33:35
  biblical okay, if on that whole Shenanigan thing, but the whole thing,
• 2:33:43
  well, I'm down for it. That's one of my favorite that's one of
• 2:33:46
  my favorite subjects. Somebody asked me too, they said, because we were
• 2:33:50
  talking about Bigfoot in the Bible. He said, do you think bigfoots the
• 2:33:52
  giants? A note? Say, why? Said Bigfoot don't build cities.
• 2:33:58
  Giants build cities. Yeah, I mean he he builds. I don't know
• 2:34:05
  that's that's a good point. That's a good point. There's their own thing.
• 2:34:09
  Okay, And I was gonna ask you a question, but that's gonna
• 2:34:11
  take us down a hole of the rabbit hole. So I'm going to do
• 2:34:13
  therain and I'm going to say thank you so much Tony for being here tonight
• 2:34:18
  and Uh and for sharing you. Thank you so much. This has been
• 2:34:22
  one of I mean, I always have fascinating guests on and co hosts,
• 2:34:26
  okay, but but this was this was a little different, and it was
• 2:34:30
  super I mean, this is very educational. First of all, I want
• 2:34:33
  Tony and Uh. And we also had some of our teammates in the chat
• 2:34:41
  tonight too, some people that go beigfooting with us. We had David Pardue
• 2:34:45
  was in here, and I had Daryl in here and awesome. I'm sure
• 2:34:50
  there was some more I missed him. Yeah, they're probably in bed by
• 2:34:54
  now, okay, but but they did hop in a little bit. So,
• 2:34:58
  Tony, do you do you have any kind of place where people could
• 2:35:01
  find you. You don't have a YouTube channel or anything, do you.
• 2:35:05
  All I got is my email address, and that is Tony G. Three
• 2:35:09
  eight nine at gmail dot com. Tony okay, go ahead three eight nine
• 2:35:18
  at gmail dot com. Okay, and you can find me just on Facebook,
• 2:35:24
  Tony Green, that's me, Okay. I ain't got no other websites
• 2:35:30
  from nothing like that that may be coming, I don't know. Thinking about
• 2:35:35
  it, I think you should. I think you should start your own podcast
• 2:35:37
  when you get a chance. I know you're busy. I've been thinking about
• 2:35:43
  it. I've got a buddy of mine that's been riding me. You oh
• 2:35:48
  man school. Let me get that out the way, because it would it
• 2:35:54
  would take off, Tony. I'm telling you, I know everybody is really
• 2:35:56
  enjoyed having you here tonight. Everybody in the chat, it's been Yeah,
• 2:36:01
  we really enjoyed having you here. So thank you. Thank you for having
• 2:36:05
  me well, thank you, thank you. Hopefully I'm going to be seeing
• 2:36:09
  you out in the woods one day soon. I mean, if I when
• 2:36:13
  I win, when I make it back from the dog Man Hunt, we
• 2:36:22
  do well. I'm scheduled to be at another event, so we'll we'll see
• 2:36:28
  what's gonna happen with that. We're gonna I'll talk to you. It's gonna
• 2:36:33
  be that dog Man thing, and there's gonna be no releap at all,
• 2:36:39
  Yeah, it's gonna be rough. It's gonna be rough. So but that's
• 2:36:43
  what I'm tough. I'm pretending like I'm tough. Okay. Oh man,
• 2:36:50
  it's often and game. So you can't sleep because you're sweaty. Okay,
• 2:36:54
  but we'll see. But no matter what, we're having a good time.
• 2:36:56
  It's fun. Uh. We do it because we love it and we love
• 2:37:00
  the people we do with. Okay, our friends are our family. Okay,
• 2:37:05
  the absolutely for sure. Well, Tony, you have a wonderful night,
• 2:37:11
  and I am so glad for you. And uh and I'm gonna have
• 2:37:13
  you back on Real Stone. You let me know when you're ready. We'll
• 2:37:16
  do it. We'll do a show on giants, right, Okay, heck
• 2:37:20
  yeah, Well everybody, thank you so much for being here in the chat
• 2:37:22
  tonight. Thank you for all the superstickers and for just all the love tonight.
• 2:37:28
  And what a wonderful chat. You guys have really gone for chat and
• 2:37:33
  I love you guys so much, and please come back. I'm gonna be
• 2:37:35
  at Space Out Radio tomorrow night. I believe I have Brian Scene coming on
• 2:37:39
  tomorrow night with Disclosure Now. He's throwing the full Disclosure Now conference that I'm
• 2:37:45
  going to be speaking at and uh uh uh oh did I move loose Tony?
• 2:37:50
  I don't know Tony, just just my love Tony, Okay, But
• 2:37:54
  but yeah, you guys please come back and see me tomorrow night on Space
• 2:37:56
  Out Radio and otherwise I'll see y'all next week. I hope you guys have
• 2:38:00
  a wonderful, wonderful night. You're having a wonderful weekend, and I will
• 2:38:05
  see y'all next time. Everybody go, keep your head on a swivel,
• 2:38:09
  stay safe out there, and we'll see you. So bye bye, bye
• 2:38:18
  bye. Steam Plains streams