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Know the Enemy: NC State · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  Music and welcome back to the Boundary
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  Corner Podcast along with my partners Brian Siegler, Jonathan
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  Talley, and Shelton Moss. I am Curtis Wilson in this
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  Your friendly neighborhood pharmacy, Three O 1 S Main St.
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  in Blacksburg. Go visit him one last game
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  weekend Boys in the Burg. How's everybody doing this
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  Wednesday night? Man, it's it's it's good to kind
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  of change it up a little bit. We've had a few weeks where, you
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  know, we've had some a little different tally's got the merch
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  there. Go get that, go get that down.
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  But hitting us up tonight? Yeah man, it's nice to switch it
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  up a little bit, Do it on a Wednesday doing things a little
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  different. Got to keep y'all on your toes.
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  Yeah man, you never know where we going to be.
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  We just pop out anywhere. BCP, not to be confused with
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  BBC. We back.
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  We got Sheldon back in the building, Got a little Peach
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  crown and tea in my cup tonight. Feeling good?
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  Win. Not only a win, a ass kicking.
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  Hey, man, it's all good. All good.
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  Andretti already in here. He ready to roll?
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  We got Mr. Drones in here. Ready to roll.
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  Hey, it's a good night, man. A kid had a game last night.
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  He got his ass kicked, twisted his ankle.
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  Oh, he twisted the Yeah, but that ain't good.
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  Man. Oh shit.
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  Yeah, he he just tweaked it a little bit.
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  He He played through it and had to.
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  Put a brace on it. Hold on, 'cause I know he plays
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  baseball. Is it his push off ankle?
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  That's right. No other.
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  Yeah, you can deal with the land in.
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  Angst. We'll live with it.
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  How you been, man? You have taken a little bit of a
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  sabbatical the last few weeks. How's life?
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  Life has been good. I did take a sabbatical just to
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  refresh and focus on other things, but I'm back.
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  I got some some good stat Nuggets as always for this
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  podcast. How was Tulsa?
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  It was awesome. So for those who don't know, I
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  was in Oklahoma. The weekend before this past one
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  working with the Charlotte 49ers football team went out to Tulsa.
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  OK, got a big come from behind overtime victory there we got we
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  got out as soon as we could which is nice but it was it was
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  it was good first time ever going to Oklahoma.
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  So I had. I had a great time.
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  That was birthday weekend too, right?
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  It was birthday weekend. We had a nice steakhouse dinner,
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  got to celebrate, a little bit of a dessert.
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  So All in all was a pretty good, pretty solid trip.
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  I I would, I would definitely recommend Tulsa.
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  All right. Definitely recommends Tulsa.
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  Yeah, Mr. Drones. I do you one better.
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  So give me your send me your information and I'll get you a
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  cup. There you go.
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  There you go. Tally.
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  Hooking a man up here. All right, fellas.
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  All right, fellas. There you go, Tally.
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  He heard you out there. Awesome.
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  Awesome. Well, we do have a football game
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  to talk about and we are going to talk about that.
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  But we're going to hit this first and then we're going to
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  talk about some of the stuff that happened in the Hokie
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  sports last week. Just for a bit.
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  First of all, rally for Robbie. I'll see it as my hashtag there.
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  We don't know quite yet where they're going to be located this
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  week for the game. Grayson Wimbush.
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  Give him a follow. He can tell you where it is.
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  As always, it is $7.00. It is always at the pharmacy.
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  Then know it right there. Get this for this season.
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  Great 'cause to support. All right, let's talk about
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  hoops, both men's and women's. First, let's talk about men's
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  because literally on this TV back here, don't see it right
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  there. We just finished watching a game
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  versus Campbell. I got to watch some of the
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  second-half. Tally Texted said he was
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  watching some of the first Shelton Watt.
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  Would anybody like to give their thoughts on this game?
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  I'm just going to say not to sound too negative.
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  Wasn't shooting good in that first half.
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  I think we was like, oh for 10 before we hit our first three.
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  Couture hit it and if this team is going to live and by live and
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  die by the three we cannot play a CACC teams that way.
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  You play a Virginia like that or a Duke like that or North
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  Carolina State like that you're going to be down quick.
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  So, I mean, they did. I can't say kid, look, kid looks
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  different, you know? He kind of, he cut his half, so
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  he definitely like, he just appearance looks different, but
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  it looks like he slammed up a little bit or just like muscled
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  up a little bit. And I think he's averaging like
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  16 and 10 right now, you know? I know it's only been like three
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  games, but last year he only averaged like 4 points.
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  So he's taking on a bigger role this year and he looks good.
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  So I was watching with my son and he was like.
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  They're not hitting those shots. How they win and I was like what
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  a team they're playing is not doing good either and that big
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  man is, is doing work. So yeah, I.
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  Think he ended up with 24 and 15?
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  Yeah, something like that. I think he had like the 1st 10
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  points, so he he he was doing some work.
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  So that's, that's what I seen from the day.
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  Sheldon, what about you? I know you got to watch a little
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  bit more of it than I think we did.
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  I know. And you were telling us, You
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  were telling us beforehand. Sheldon Dalton count November in
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  college basketball the way. Well, I mean it's it's it's
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  just, you know, hard to know how to react to these types of games
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  because you're playing a inferior opponent that you
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  should take care of business of. And it's sometimes it's hard to
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  get get those kids up for it. But I thought, I thought Lincoln
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  had a great game. He has really polished his
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  offensive game around the paint 24 and 15, just has really good
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  length and athleticism and he puts it to good use.
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  The problem is, you know, I just don't know who can really.
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  Create their shot outside of Padula or Kid right now.
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  Obviously they didn't have Nickel Tyler Nickel who's out
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  sick, but you just look at the offense and they just they
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  nothing's clicking right now and they don't have the offensive
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  weapons. I don't think that they did last
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  year to to some degree. So we'll see how it all plays
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  out. I know it's still early, it's
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  still November, but I do have some concerns.
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  But I'm I'm going to try to wait and just take the pragmatic
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  approach and see if they can figure things out in the next
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  couple weeks. Brian, anything.
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  I don't know how much you got to see.
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  Yeah I mean right now to me the MJ Colin lives are coming to
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  fruition like I thought we were going to see some some different
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  business out of him. We we're not seeing that yet.
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  The rest of the team just did not have a good shooting,
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  especially in the first half. Good shooting night, you know,
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  thankfully, you know kid was doing some work and we had some
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  some some some key points here and there then and and played a
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  little bit better. The defense that I think we did
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  you know got the gate so I know it's I know the opponent isn't
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  great so it's really hard to kind of put a put a stamp on
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  that or grade on that but you know they they they think they
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  shot under 25% from the field and right at 20% from 3:00 we we
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  weren't much better from three but we were at least in the kind
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  of upper side of the 30s from from field goals so.
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  You know, it's hard, hard to take away a lot of positives
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  from that, but you got to win. That's that.
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  That's the biggest, biggest piece you can take away.
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  Yeah, got to win. And unlike Friday night against
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  the Gamecocks, you know we lost by two.
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  But there's something I noticed and it's both games.
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  I didn't see it in the Cop and State game, but the first part
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  of the game, I was kind of doing stuff and it reminds me of the
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  football team. This year we are starting super
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  slow, We're starting cold. We can't find the groove and
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  that proved to be Doom versus South Carolina because we
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  stormed back in the second-half and and yes, you can say, well,
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  if Padula turned, turned the ball over right there at the end
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  with a chance to tie, we could have tied it and maybe won that
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  game. The whole thing is if you're
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  having a battle back that hard and you shoot like you did in
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  the first half again this game and last game, there's going to
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  be a lot of problems throughout the season and they've got to
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  get that figured out. And I was mentioning LeBron for
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  both. Y'all hopped on, unlike last
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  year. This year, with Auburn around
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  the corner and with Boise State coming up, two teams that were
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  in the NCAA tournament, you're going to probably somewhere
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  between if you don't win either one of those games.
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  What, Four and four? Four and 4-5 and three going
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  into conference play. And that's not good.
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  Let's talk about they've got Wofford later this week.
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  I'm sure that'll be on a CCACCNX.
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  I'm pretty sure it is. And watching that little thing.
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  Let's talk about the women's game last Thursday.
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  First of all, what a game. Regardless, you know what a
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  game. Hokies come out on the the
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  losing end of that. So Sheldon, did you get a chance
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  to watch a game or you working on Thursday night?
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  Which one Iowa Tech last Thursday?
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  Yes indeed I was actually I was there it was an awesome game it
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  was lived up to five I'm I'm only about 30 minutes light rail
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  from the Spectrum Center so I went down there with a friend.
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  I would say regardless of yacom it was just fantastic to watch.
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  I mean every it lived up to the billing you had Caitlin Clark
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  going off and George Amor going off hitting a a buzzer beater 3
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  in the first quarter from half court.
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  So great game. I think biggest take away is.
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  You know tech's got to work some things out.
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  I think they got really hurt by foul trouble because they they
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  had, I think they had two, two of their wings, Kayla King and
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  Carly Wenzel had you know 3 plus fouls in the first half and they
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  just, they Kenny just couldn't play them.
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  So you had to go with you know four big line UPS that were
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  really bad for spacing and shot creation and against a team like
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  Iowa, it's just it's just not going to work.
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  So you know, credit to Kayla Clark, I thought she the way she
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  drives and the way she uses her her arm to sort of initiate
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  contact. She's really, really good at
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  drawing fouls and that obviously hurts.
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  We just they just couldn't defend her.
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  So I mean it is what it is. You you lost to you lost to the
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  best part in the court, so can't make too much of it.
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  But I just thought it was a fantastic game and I think Tech
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  has has a lot of a lot of room to improve.
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  That's a crazy thing to say. You said it's a lot of room to
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  improve and to me it means this team's good.
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  This team's going to hang with anybody in the country all year.
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  You mentioned more and a lot of people were jumping on Liz
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  Kittle. Liz Kittle went 16 and 16 and
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  she got elbowed in the face and she was out.
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  Where me and Brian, we were sitting downstairs on Thursday
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  night playing poker when she cooked that elbow to the face.
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  Me and Brian, we said me and you kind of mentioned like, man,
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  we're not the same team. Because at that point I think we
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  were like, up. And then this did that when the
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  swing happened, when she took the elbow right there.
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  Yeah, it felt like that was kind of.
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  Even though she really didn't miss that much time in terms of
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  court time like you know there was a little bit of like a a
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  sigh there that it took. I think it took the team a
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  little while to kind of reboot a little bit because by the time
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  you know we we kind of got back in the groove we were down like
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  you know four or five at that point.
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  And then it it ballooned a little bit further after that
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  before they kind of made that run at the end to make it a a
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  pretty tight one at to close out.
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  Yep, tell anything on this. You watch a game, you get a
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  chance. To Yeah man.
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  I mean, I I I didn't get to watch the whole game, but I
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  watched a little bit of it and then went back and watched some
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  highlights. And I mean it's a lot of ladies
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  that was balling on that court and kind of like Y'all said when
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  Kitley gets hurt, well, it's out of the game a little bit when
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  you have a a fixture on your team kind of how she is.
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  You know, man, she was 66, you know, and skilled and can move
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  like she's taking up a lot of space on the court.
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  So everything that she does affects the game, even if she's
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  just standing there with her hands up.
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  You know, people got to shoot around her.
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  They got to pass around her. So her being out, you know, that
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  kind of that kind of hurts the team, even if it's just for a
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  little bit of time. And I think Shelton kind of hit
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  it as well. The foul trouble when you're
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  playing, you know, a team that's got guard oriented like like
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  Iowa was, it's just like you got to, you got to find a way to.
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  Keep everybody on the court and Caitlin Clark is like James
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  Harden, man, prime James Harden, like she finds the files, she's
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  going, she's going to initiate the contact and find the files,
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  man. So I think what I liked about it
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  was seeing that match up early in the season because we expect
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  that that woman's team to be good, seeing them go against
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  another team that we expect to be good.
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  And seeing a show in like that is what you expect.
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  So, you know, you didn't expect to go in and get blew out or the
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  blow somebody else out, you know, So then I think that'll
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  help them in the long run. All righty couple last piece
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  with hokey sports. Real quick to wrap up Wrestling
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  happened last Friday night. Sheldon, I know you.
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  I know you pay attention to wrestling in November because I
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  know you pay attention to wrestling all season.
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  I hope that was sarcastic. I hope that was sarcastic, by
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  the way. But you all you talked about it
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  all last year how much you liked wrestling.
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  I've I've slowly gotten into it, yes.
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  But I'm very much a a novice in the sport.
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  That's why we're going to bring if you call and if you cook and
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  educate I should give you his number and you just text him all
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  the time. We lose 2412 but we only lose
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  four of six matches and and everybody's like if you look at
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  the score we got the doors blown off.
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  You would have think we lost so many matches, but wrestling's
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  that weird sport where how you lose determines on how many
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  points you're given. You know, you get pinned and
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  that did happen. Unfortunately, I think it's Sam
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  Fisher. That's like an 8 pointer right
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  there. You lose another way, it's five,
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  you lose another way, it's four. I don't think it's bad.
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  It's early in the season. We're still a good team.
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  To me it's an after getting into it and having a friend like
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  Fuqua out there who can tell you what's happening, it is a
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  fascinating sport to watch. Yeah, I mean, I was watching.
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  I watched a little bit, you know, I think, you know, having
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  a couple upsets, I think is what kind of shifted the tide even
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  bigger. So Eddie leaves it right off the
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  bat. You can get smashed.
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  Yeah, you have a couple upsets. Then you have have one pin that
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  really kind of swings the the momentum in the other direction.
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  You know the if you look at the matches themselves, it wasn't
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  wasn't that big of a discrepancy, but it was kind of
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  how it went down. They kind of played the played
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  the role there in in that big. You know, they where they
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  doubled us up in points, so tough one, but you know they
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  turned it around, got another easy one out the gate there.
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  So I think there's still going to be a good squad and I think
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  you know we see these guys settle in a little bit.
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  Hopefully they can put out a better show in, especially once
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  we get to some of the ACC. Showdowns there.
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  You know who's a you know who's a wrestler whisperer that people
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  may not know in hokey Twitter? Joe Rogers.
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  Joe Rogers knows a lot about wrestling and I talked to him a
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  lot about wrestling, man. He he was a wrestler.
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  I'll let him tell the story if he ever wants to tell it.
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  But I talked to him a little bit about the match and he said that
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  we're we were, we were. Wrestling, two guys that were
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  not really supposed to be wrestling because two of our top
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  guys didn't make weight, they came in too heavy.
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  So that kind of put us at a disadvantage.
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  And I think he said another one of our starters was wrestling
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  overseas or something this year. It was a couple of things that
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  happened that kind of weren't expected that weren't expected.
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  So if anybody wants to know about some wrestling when he
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  ain't talking crazy. He actually had some pretty good
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  talks about wrestling Joe Rogers.
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  Shout out to Joe, hit him up. Joe Rogers say hey man, I don't
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  want to talk about fucking LED lights today.
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  I want to. Talk to wrestling and guess
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  what, man? He'll give you some good info.
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  I'm telling you, that's my guy, man.
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  I understand. All right, real quick this week.
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  End of the week, another good big match up.
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  Rutgers, the top 15 match up up in Piscataway.
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  Hopefully a better show in that Ohio State.
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  Before we get to our game, we got to talk about one thing
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  that's happened in college football already.
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  There were two firings this year.
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  Pat Fitzgerald got fired early, early in the season.
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  I think full season started. Mel Tucker got fired by the way
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  I looked on Pete Tammel's reporting.
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  The guy who replaced Fitzgerald, who has gone five and five.
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  Tally. We met me and you talked about
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  it earlier like they're like, how do you even that team's five
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  and five. Dave Braun is the guy.
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  He's been the interim coach. He's going to get the label
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  removed, going to be the head coach.
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  But over the weekend, at no shocker, several firings.
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  Couple of them justified. Couple of them, whatever The big
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  one was, Jimbo Fisher got fired. Yeah, fuck him.
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  I hate Jimbo. Well, you can hate him, but I'd
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  like to. He's rich.
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  He's rich. He's.
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  Rich without having to do shit for the next several years?
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  Well, OK, his buyout's 70. Five.
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  He'll be he, somebody said. He'll be in Google buyout of the
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  whole staff. Yeah, ain't it?
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  No, I didn't. What is it you already want to
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  know? 150 million.
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  To do shit. To do nothing.
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  They didn't do nothing, A 150 million.
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  I mean, that's just saying that the guys, well, first of all,
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  how stupid, that's how stupid money they have down there.
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  Most people will have that clause in the contract that says
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  if you get another job, we ain't paying you no more.
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  Right. We ain't paying you no more.
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  Thank you, Rex 76,000,000. I was $1,000,000 off.
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  Man's going to buy a house down in Pensacola with that 76
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  million, but that's crazy. So you got Texas A&M now open.
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  Andy Avalos, who have Boise got fired, and Zach Garnett,
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  Mississippi. Zach Garnett was put in the
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  worst possible spot. Yeah, he was in a bad spot.
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  I mean and you know, so you got those fires.
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  Going, I don't know, man. The new from the new from
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  Northwestern was in a bad spot, too.
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  He was having car wash Dickens up there.
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  Like it was some crazy stuff going on up there.
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  And did y'all had this? Like, yeah, people transferring,
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  they had people get naked. Rubbing.
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  Hey, go read the story, man, I'm.
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  I'm, I'm ready. I'm ready.
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  I'm just a mess. They had some crazy stuff going
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  on up there, so five and five. There's no way.
• 20:20
  If you told me he was going to win five games with what was
• 20:23
  going on up there, I would have said you crazy.
• 20:26
  I swear that that's the first time Car Wash Dickens has been
• 20:29
  said on a podcast. Car wash Dickens, Man, that's
• 20:33
  the first time car Wash Dickens has ever been done.
• 20:36
  Like, I've seen a lot of crazy stuff in football locker rooms.
• 20:39
  I've never heard of anybody saying you got to go through a
• 20:42
  Dick car wash as what? That's how we going.
• 20:46
  That's how we going to haze you, bro.
• 20:48
  That's some crazy. Hey, some of y'all football
• 20:51
  players, man, if y'all want to be gay.
• 20:53
  It's cool to be gay in 2023. Just go be gay, man.
• 20:56
  Stop doing the crazy shit in the locker rooms.
• 20:59
  Do like Dwight Howard Shit. Go do what he did.
• 21:02
  We don't care. Just don't be taking it out on
• 21:05
  any Dwight. Howard Catches Astray on
• 21:07
  Boundary Corner podcast. White Howard, That's just for
• 21:11
  him being terrible with the Lakers, All right.
• 21:12
  Obviously a lot of guys getting fired, a lot of coordinators
• 21:15
  already fired as well. I always like it.
• 21:17
  I I keep up with that stuff because and always this trickle
• 21:20
  effects and who's going to get you?
• 21:22
  And then people start. I almost want to create a fake
• 21:24
  Twitter account and just start throwing out random rumors.
• 21:27
  You might as well Chris Marr to Mississippi State.
• 21:31
  He coached there five years ago. They want him do it.
• 21:34
  Why not? All right.
• 21:36
  Well, you know who. You know who does that, though,
• 21:38
  Curtis? For real?
• 21:39
  The agents. The agents put out so many smoke
• 21:42
  screens. Just so they can get more money
• 21:45
  for their, for their, their guys, where they are.
• 21:48
  So, yeah, you might as well do it.
• 21:49
  They doing it. All righty.
• 21:52
  All righty. Real quick.
• 21:53
  Here it is Now time to tell the truth.
• 21:56
  And it's tell the truth Wednesday, not tell the truth
• 21:59
  Tuesday. A a segment we started this year
• 22:03
  and we always start with the good and what went well.
• 22:06
  And I need to ask you all this question, was that the same team
• 22:09
  that played at Louisville two weeks ago?
• 22:11
  Because that didn't look like the same team.
• 22:14
  Same players, same bodies, different souls, different
• 22:19
  coaches. That team came to play the the
• 22:21
  coaches came to coach. That was one of the, I'll say
• 22:26
  that's probably like the maybe second or third game.
• 22:29
  I think that we've like head and shoulders out.
• 22:33
  Coached another team. Yeah.
• 22:35
  In the prior era, I mean, they haven't.
• 22:37
  There haven't been many. That was one of them.
• 22:39
  We had his shoulders out, coached that other team and we
• 22:43
  outplayed them too. Yeah, which?
• 22:45
  Which is just as important. Yeah, definitely something.
• 22:50
  Tally, you mentioned we were more physical.
• 22:53
  We were aggressive. We were mean at points in times.
• 22:57
  And the one thing I love because Boston College prided itself on
• 23:00
  controlling the clock. We controlled the clock, We
• 23:03
  controlled the game beginning to end, and I want to start with
• 23:05
  offense because I'm not kidding. I'm looking at the box score and
• 23:08
  it's been reiterated 600 yards of total offense.
• 23:14
  That's nuts. 237 passing 363 on the ground and that they
• 23:20
  weren't. They're not a maybe adjusted
• 23:22
  their bad They weren't a terrible defense.
• 23:24
  It was not like they were the 106th ranked defense in the
• 23:28
  country. They were somewhere in the 40s
• 23:30
  or 50s. Sheldon, anything.
• 23:34
  I'm going to throw it to you because these guys been
• 23:35
  chatting. I don't.
• 23:37
  I don't know if you worked Saturday or did you have to
• 23:38
  catch it on the back end in replays?
• 23:41
  Yeah, I was able to watch, watch the vast majority of it.
• 23:44
  I kind of chewed out a little bit towards the second-half just
• 23:47
  because it's such a blowout, but.
• 23:49
  Yeah. But yeah, it was good.
• 23:51
  It was good. But let's Well, Sheldon wasn't.
• 23:54
  Sheldon wasn't worried at all. No, he was.
• 23:56
  The whole week he was like, what are y'all talking about?
• 23:59
  We're going to beat them and we're going to beat them
• 24:01
  handily. And I'm like, dude, I don't
• 24:02
  know, man. I don't know if you watching the
• 24:06
  same fucking team I'm watching. And he was cool.
• 24:08
  Yeah, you are. I need to bet with him, Chip,
• 24:11
  he, he texted us. Was it Saturday?
• 24:14
  We will win And it's just like, yeah, it'll be alright.
• 24:17
  We will win. I OK.
• 24:18
  Dude, Whenever he hits people with that though, it's usually
• 24:21
  like he's got his reason. He pretty spot on when he goes.
• 24:23
  On man and with the weight gain. All right, well let's talk about
• 24:26
  some of these guys. Let's talk about Kyron drones
• 24:29
  first because Kyron drones 219 through the air, 2 touchdowns,
• 24:34
  135 on the ground included an unbelievable 59 yard run that
• 24:39
  was a wild ass run. One thing I noticed and and
• 24:43
  y'all tell me about this, he is looking more and this was this
• 24:48
  was the one that really jumped out to me on those reads.
• 24:52
  He is getting more decisive on his pulls.
• 24:55
  He is getting more decisive. He is giving.
• 24:58
  He's also getting more leeway. He knows he's starting to see it
• 25:01
  better, in my opinion, because there were a couple times he
• 25:04
  ripped it out of Tooten's gut and just took off up the middle
• 25:06
  and maybe that was the the play. But it just looked like I know
• 25:10
  exactly what I'm doing on this play.
• 25:13
  The one that impressed me the most was when he kind of pulled
• 25:16
  it late. The DN, the Reed DN kind of slow
• 25:20
  played a little bit and he held it to the last second as soon as
• 25:23
  he saw him lean just a little bit, pulled it out, did a little
• 25:26
  little stutter, step out wide. It got, I think was about a 15
• 25:29
  yard gain on that one. But yeah, I mean, definitely
• 25:33
  more decisive in the reeds. The the confidence level is is
• 25:37
  through the roof right now for him and you you see it playing
• 25:41
  out. It looks like the leadership is
• 25:42
  developing a lot more on the field.
• 25:45
  He he's he's feeling more comfortable with checks.
• 25:47
  You see him checking, not waiting on the call coming in
• 25:50
  him him checking it, that's that's a big deal.
• 25:53
  It it's showing that he's really confident in the offense now and
• 25:57
  we're starting to see that come to fruition in terms of yardage
• 26:00
  output, scoring output, Ally, what you got.
• 26:04
  I don't know, man. I'm just a fan.
• 26:05
  I just watched the game. But watching and seeing stuff
• 26:09
  that I've seen and been talking about, hey man, kind of seem
• 26:13
  like we know what we talking about.
• 26:15
  I mean, the more and more comfortable that Kyron gets,
• 26:19
  it's like it's scary to watch him play.
• 26:21
  You know, I would. I do want him to protect himself
• 26:24
  when he's playing, but he's a football player, you know?
• 26:26
  I don't want him running 20 times and running people over 20
• 26:29
  * a game, but. When he makes up in his mind
• 26:32
  that he is going to leave his his stamp on the game, that's
• 26:36
  what he does at the beginning of the game.
• 26:38
  And I hate that it takes him doing that for the team to like
• 26:41
  come out and wake up. But when he does that man like
• 26:45
  you see a different offense. Like it'll be one run where
• 26:48
  you'll see him just he picks somebody out and he punishes
• 26:52
  them like they don't when you get to the third and fourth
• 26:56
  quarter and you keep having to hit a person.
• 27:00
  No2 then drones. Then you know you might get hit
• 27:03
  by Felton, you may get hit by right?
• 27:05
  Like you don't want to keep hitting them.
• 27:07
  People, you know, I've seen in games where we're taking the
• 27:11
  fight two people, they give up. It's too much, you know.
• 27:14
  So the only thing that, and I don't want to keep going back
• 27:18
  to, you know, the bad. But the only thing that pisses
• 27:21
  me off is because we had that nice stage to show what our guys
• 27:25
  can do when we went to Louisville, I feel like.
• 27:28
  We didn't have the confidence to do it and I feel like that was
• 27:31
  the coaches that didn't have the confidence to do it.
• 27:33
  But again somebody put it in the in the in the in the comments
• 27:37
  which we talked about it last week.
• 27:40
  Just have a routine. You know I know the big story
• 27:43
  that came out where they said the team you know they had the
• 27:45
  early wake up call. You know hell you got to fight.
• 27:49
  You got to bring. If that's a routine you got to
• 27:51
  have or you got to do things like that to get your team up,
• 27:54
  then you got to do it. You know, go wake some people up
• 27:57
  early and bang on the walls. Whatever you got to do, piss
• 27:59
  them off because they showed winning the game and look like
• 28:02
  they was pissed off. But I like what I seen.
• 28:04
  If we can do that every week, win or lose, I'm happy.
• 28:08
  Yep. All right, I'm going to flip it
• 28:10
  over here because we we talk about the run, you talk about
• 28:12
  the punishing runs. But he was 12 for 17219 yards
• 28:16
  and two touchdowns. And if you look at his season
• 28:19
  stats, you know, right at 60% throwing the ball over 1500
• 28:23
  yards, nine TD, 2 picks and Sheldon, I hit you up.
• 28:29
  And just where is it looking like?
• 28:31
  What's his favorite parts of the field?
• 28:33
  Is he, is he lean one way or is it is he is he more of a shotgun
• 28:37
  type guy where it's all around? What are you seeing when you did
• 28:40
  that little dive force? Well, I haven't looked
• 28:45
  specifically at some of the passing directional splits, but
• 28:50
  I think they're definitely targeting the sidelines.
• 28:53
  Taking some of those deep shots down field, sort of going away
• 28:55
  from more towards the middle of the field, I can pull up his
• 28:58
  directional splits in a second. But you know and and they've
• 29:01
  also worked, you know, behind the line of scrimmage, the
• 29:03
  screen game with some of those swing passes to the running
• 29:06
  backs. So I think the staff has done a
• 29:07
  good job of you know, making easy throws and and throws that
• 29:12
  have a very low chance of being intercepted.
• 29:15
  And as Kyron has built off his previous successes, as he gets
• 29:18
  more reps and experience, he's able to handle a bigger load.
• 29:22
  And you've kind of seen the running game open up more which
• 29:24
  opens up of course passing game two.
• 29:26
  So I think just a combination of you know easy, simple throws and
• 29:30
  and get your get your playmakers out in space and go east to West
• 29:33
  because that's where you know that's where the running backs
• 29:36
  are at their best. I mean obviously Tech is not a
• 29:38
  team that can run between the tackles.
• 29:39
  So you get those guys outside and and in space where they can
• 29:42
  make plays, that's where they're at their best.
• 29:44
  Yeah. And Speaking of two guys who are
• 29:46
  getting outside in space, it was the Quan and Quan show up there
• 29:49
  Saturday. Daquan Wright, Daquan Felton,
• 29:52
  both leading the way. Both Felton over 100 yards, did
• 29:58
  not get a touchdown, but had that 70 yard bomb where they
• 30:01
  jumped. Kyra knew they jumped and he
• 30:05
  launched it. That's what a good quarterback
• 30:07
  does. If you know you're going to get
• 30:10
  5 and there's going to be another play, get it downfield.
• 30:13
  He dropped a dime on that. And what I loved about that is
• 30:17
  if you looked at the corner. Like he saw the jump and like,
• 30:20
  hesitated just a little bit. Quan ran right by him.
• 30:23
  Drone saw that, put it up there, right on his fingertips, 70
• 30:27
  yards later. That was a big play, man.
• 30:29
  And that's just playing together, man.
• 30:30
  The more you play together, you know what the person on the
• 30:34
  other end is going to do, you know?
• 30:36
  That's why, again, we'll talk about it in the state of the
• 30:38
  program. Big what ifs, you know what I
• 30:41
  mean? Yeah.
• 30:42
  Oh, yeah. Oh yeah, And then and then
• 30:44
  Daquan kind of showed out this We got Daquan's bronze boy,
• 30:48
  Daquan Ryan, boy 4. Tight in man tight in.
• 30:52
  Well listen he he Brian has said literally and this goes back
• 30:56
  years now Daquan Wright is not an 86.
• 30:59
  Daquan Wright is a good good player and and and he had a good
• 31:04
  game some that one catch where Kyron put it between guys and he
• 31:09
  just snatched. It did he catch him with one
• 31:11
  hand. One hand?
• 31:12
  What's the full extension? Yeah.
• 31:14
  And kept going. Yeah.
• 31:17
  I mean, and it and it just shows you the development of him.
• 31:19
  It shows you the development of the past game and shells.
• 31:22
  Have you been able to get those splits yet?
• 31:25
  Yeah, I'm looking at it right here actually.
• 31:26
  So what's the split look like? Yeah.
• 31:29
  So I'm just kind of kind of coming through it.
• 31:33
  He's drones has been most successful, actually, sort of,
• 31:36
  between the numbers in that zero to 10 range.
• 31:39
  So I think that's probably the result of we're seeing some more
• 31:42
  RPO slants. We saw 1-2.
• 31:45
  I can't remember who it was the I think the second or third
• 31:47
  touchdown against BC, whoever ran that that inside slant but
• 31:50
  in breaking route for the Tuddy. Think it might have been lame,
• 31:54
  but someone check fact checking on that wide.
• 31:56
  Eye. Yeah, it was.
• 31:58
  Guys now. It was guys now, yeah.
• 31:59
  Yeah, Yeah. So, so they've had success with
• 32:01
  that, which I think is great to see because you know we haven't
• 32:03
  always seen. You know the coaching staff that
• 32:06
  can take advantage of those of those numbers.
• 32:09
  So and then elsewhere you know he's doing pretty well between
• 32:13
  the numbers 10 plus yards down the field and also behind the
• 32:17
  line of scrimmage, you know both to to the field side and also to
• 32:22
  to the boundary side. So I mean pretty good splits
• 32:25
  overall nine to two touchdown reception ratio.
• 32:27
  I mean, I like the numbers and I think the the staff has done a
• 32:30
  good job of sort of truncating the passing game to where again,
• 32:32
  you're not, you're not making risky throws, you're just kind
• 32:34
  of taking. What what the defense gives you
• 32:36
  and and kind of what suits the strengths.
• 32:38
  But it's also a thing too. A good coaching staff will
• 32:41
  effectively you talk about the zero to 10s behind the lines,
• 32:45
  boundary field, whatever you pepper that somebody makes a
• 32:49
  mind miss. People come up, they come up,
• 32:52
  linebackers start turning their heads right, They're going out.
• 32:56
  Safety start putting their nose. They don't come back.
• 32:59
  And then you have the plate of Felton and then you have some of
• 33:02
  those deep bombs. You have the I still love that
• 33:05
  RPO slant that he threw to lane back there in the weight game
• 33:09
  because we peppered him and we've been running the ball.
• 33:10
  Well, he hit that thing and that safety walked up and as soon as
• 33:14
  he walked up, he pulled, he cocked, he fired.
• 33:18
  And as soon as you hit his like they ain't nobody back there,
• 33:21
  he's gone. All right, well, let's talk
• 33:23
  about the running game, because Kyron carried the load.
• 33:27
  But base shell tootin, you know, give him his credit as well.
• 33:31
  You know, 78 yards, not one, not 2-3 touchdowns.
• 33:36
  What a difference he's made, right Tally?
• 33:38
  Oh man, they could have. He probably could have had 150.
• 33:41
  They took him out. You know what I'm saying?
• 33:43
  He we we need him for the rest of the games.
• 33:45
  Like he made it a point that the fuck BC up.
• 33:48
  Like, you know, he was committed to BC and then he's flipped and
• 33:52
  came here. You know how that is like, we're
• 33:55
  usually the one who get the revenge games.
• 33:58
  This these people, they didn't give this kid a chance and like
• 34:01
  the Boogie Bashrooms and the Daz Newsom's of the world used to
• 34:04
  fuck us up, you know what I'm saying?
• 34:06
  It was good to have somebody on our team.
• 34:09
  They won't let the fuck somebody else up.
• 34:11
  It was like. That's the third touchdown was
• 34:14
  an angry run, man. It's just, hey, you could tell
• 34:16
  it meant something to them, you know what I'm saying?
• 34:19
  But even more than that, when you talk about, you know, going
• 34:21
  back to what Curtis said and what Shelton said, you know,
• 34:25
  peppering different plays and. Like, I hate to use the term
• 34:30
  fucking people up, but when you keep fucking people up with
• 34:33
  certain plays, like their eyes are going to start, you know,
• 34:36
  turning and looking at different things.
• 34:38
  If you go back to the Malachi Thomas touchdown, him and Felton
• 34:42
  was slapping hands, walking into the end zone and the the corner
• 34:46
  or the the linebacker, whoever was on Felton was so scared that
• 34:50
  he was going to beat them deep. He never turned around to look
• 34:53
  at the running back. If you go look at that play, he
• 34:56
  is following Felton all the way to the end zone.
• 34:58
  He never turns and looks at the running back.
• 35:00
  So Felton didn't even have to block him.
• 35:04
  He just ran him off. So when you when you are a
• 35:08
  threat, when you are a star, you know people have to take notice
• 35:13
  of you. They have the game plan for you.
• 35:17
  So somebody like, I know we're going to get the defense like
• 35:19
  APR, even if he doesn't get another sack.
• 35:23
  People have to game plan for him.
• 35:26
  He's on their minds. So they have to run certain
• 35:28
  plays because he has done what he's done in the past, you know,
• 35:32
  so we, we haven't had that in some years on offense and
• 35:37
  defense where people are game planning for our players.
• 35:40
  So it's crazy to think, man, we still ain't seen this offense at
• 35:44
  full strength. Like, you know, we ain't even
• 35:46
  going to start talking about. Next year and all of this stuff,
• 35:50
  but you still ain't saying that full string.
• 35:52
  We'll save that for state of the program too.
• 35:54
  Yeah, definitely. Now Seld, I asked you to look up
• 35:57
  something inside the 10 yard line because Basial Tootin's
• 36:00
  three touchdown runs were all inside the 10.
• 36:03
  And I wanted to find out how good were we last year inside,
• 36:07
  because in my mind, maybe I'm lying to myself.
• 36:10
  I felt like we were not a good team inside the 10 yard line
• 36:13
  last year. You were lying to yourself?
• 36:15
  Yes. Oh, OK.
• 36:17
  So the number last year was success rates, so rushing
• 36:22
  success rate inside the 10 we were about 62% which ranks 19th
• 36:26
  in the country. So obviously it's a pretty good
• 36:28
  number. I would say when it comes to you
• 36:31
  know those types of like field splits, you you you don't want
• 36:35
  to make too much out of them just because you know most of
• 36:38
  the issues with sample size, you're kind of, you know, cherry
• 36:40
  picking one particular segment of the field.
• 36:44
  You know, it's possible for team maybe doesn't have a great
• 36:46
  offense, but maybe they get lucky inside of 10.
• 36:47
  I mean I I saw when I was running the numbers like
• 36:49
  Northwestern, their offense was terrible last year, but I think
• 36:51
  they were second in rushing success right inside of 10.
• 36:54
  So you know make of that what you will.
• 36:56
  But obviously, you know, you got to, you got to be able to
• 36:59
  convert when you can and they've done a really good job of that
• 37:02
  last week. It's pretty simple.
• 37:04
  Last year you only get down there three times and you scored
• 37:07
  two times out of the whole year. You know what I'm saying?
• 37:10
  Like you get down there versus Wofford and Liberty and score.
• 37:13
  Fuck it. Now you had a good year inside
• 37:16
  the 10, but we wasn't getting inside the 10 a lot.
• 37:18
  So that's what the problem was. Well, I'll throw this out to
• 37:21
  y'all, y'all know who, how many we got this year And I know I'm
• 37:24
  I gave away. We gave three Saturday.
• 37:27
  How many we time. We scored inside the 10 yard
• 37:29
  line this year. Running the ball, just running.
• 37:32
  How many we got? No, ten.
• 37:34
  We got 10 touchdowns inside the 10 this year and to me, I know I
• 37:39
  don't know how it goes to success rate.
• 37:41
  But when I think of just kind of think of this season offenses,
• 37:44
  we got one more thing to look at.
• 37:48
  All right we played ten games. If you can score a bomb on one,
• 37:52
  a short yardage on one, a medium play on one, that's 21 points.
• 37:58
  And you know, if you get down there once again.
• 38:01
  All right, Sheldon, real quick, let's talk about the offensive
• 38:04
  lines. Give me some good grades, give
• 38:06
  me some bad grades and give me some snack counts because I felt
• 38:10
  like we were mixing it up a little bit more in numerous
• 38:13
  positions. Yeah, so First off to start with
• 38:17
  the offensive line. A little bit of good, Little bit
• 38:20
  of bad. Xavier Chaplin was the best
• 38:22
  grader at left tackle. He was around a 75.
• 38:26
  Kade Moore, Center, was pretty average.
• 38:29
  Or Clements a little bit above average.
• 38:31
  Braylon Moore a little bit below average And then trying to find
• 38:35
  Clements here. Yeah, Clements just kind of
• 38:37
  average too. So you know there was some some
• 38:40
  hit or miss I mean I think and Bob chicken there too with with
• 38:44
  40 snaps he was right around 62.7 which again is kind of a
• 38:48
  barely, you know, passing grade. So I think what PFS basically
• 38:52
  said was it was an OK offensive line performance, really just,
• 38:57
  you know, it was mostly just drones in tune.
• 38:59
  Making plays happen and also I think the the wide receiver
• 39:01
  blocking, at least from what I saw from guys like Felton was,
• 39:03
  was pretty solid. How much did Brody and how much
• 39:06
  did Johnny Garrett get? Because I know John, I saw 79 a
• 39:10
  few times on the field Saturday. Yeah, so Brody played 40 snaps
• 39:14
  and he was OK and then Johnny Garrett played 17 and he was a
• 39:19
  little bit, a little bit below average.
• 39:21
  Nice. Brian, What?
• 39:22
  What did you take from watching the tape?
• 39:25
  I I'm it's kind of the the same thing we're we're improving.
• 39:28
  We're seeing some incremental steps forward in terms of play
• 39:32
  overall. I think getting Brody in there
• 39:34
  more has helped a lot with that. He's he's looked pretty good
• 39:38
  from from what I'm seeing on the tape.
• 39:41
  But I think more than anything, it's Bowen and Drones really
• 39:45
  becoming very comfortable with how this offense is flowing
• 39:48
  right now, and that's opening up a lot, and it's making the
• 39:52
  offensive lines job a lot easier.
• 39:54
  Because when you have a running threat and especially now that
• 39:56
  we've been working the ball outside east to West with the
• 39:58
  running backs, a lot more, you know drones is really the guy
• 40:01
  that's attacking up the middle and that's a little bit, little
• 40:03
  bit more effective with that misdirection than just running
• 40:05
  like an inside zone with with your running back.
• 40:08
  So that's where you're seeing some of those additional creases
• 40:11
  opening up there I think. So that that's helping a lot.
• 40:14
  And then once you get that happening, you know, you get the
• 40:17
  safety's creeping up, you get the linebackers kind of keying
• 40:19
  on the running backs and. I know you've got some
• 40:21
  additional room to operate in the passing game too.
• 40:23
  So it's it's all kind of feeding on it on itself right now which
• 40:26
  is great for us because we're we're seeing some success in in
• 40:29
  all phases on offense right now all.
• 40:32
  Righty. Well, that's going to wrap up
• 40:34
  what went well for the offense. We got to go to the defense.
• 40:37
  I I know we've got a lot to do on this, but when when we have a
• 40:40
  good thing, we got to talk about it.
• 40:42
  And I want to ask Tally, Tally, you sitting there at the house,
• 40:45
  it's about 11:00. I don't know if you made a
• 40:46
  sandwich watch a game or not, but they get the ball first.
• 40:51
  What was your thoughts with the first play of the game, man?
• 40:54
  Well, you know what? I actually was not at the house
• 40:57
  making sandwiches. I was on the road going to the
• 41:00
  casino. My wife was off work.
• 41:03
  My wife was off work. She's been she.
• 41:06
  She started a new job at the hospital.
• 41:09
  She's been working a lot of hours and she was like, hey, I'm
• 41:11
  off this weekend. We went to a concert Friday
• 41:13
  night. It was like old school hip hop
• 41:15
  Twister juvenile. We went to that, yeah, we went
• 41:19
  to that Friday night. Had a good time, you know, Got
• 41:22
  home by 10, man. We got home early, we old, went
• 41:26
  to bed, got up early the next morning, hit the road.
• 41:28
  So we're on the road to the casino.
• 41:31
  It's about 3 1/2 hours away and I got my phone sitting down, you
• 41:35
  know, I got my headphones in and 1st play of the game
• 41:39
  defensively, fucking Dorian strong with that ugly ass 44 on
• 41:44
  that I've been talking about for years.
• 41:46
  It's like. Why are you going to try to
• 41:48
  throw the ball to my side of the field?
• 41:50
  You know, he jumps in front of it, dies.
• 41:53
  I'm like, is he in? Is he out?
• 41:54
  He was in pick. Hey, we taking it back the other
• 41:58
  way, you know? So that was exciting, man.
• 42:01
  That was exciting to be on the road.
• 42:04
  The defense came, the whole team came to play.
• 42:07
  But like, it just feels good for Dorian, man, like him being
• 42:10
  injured last year. I heard somebody talk about it.
• 42:15
  I can't remember who. On one of the podcasts, I think
• 42:17
  it may have been Don V talking about, you know, the last time
• 42:21
  Dorian was in Boston College, he got a pick.
• 42:24
  You know, when he got the pick, when he was there, he was seemed
• 42:28
  like he was anxious with the ball.
• 42:29
  You know, he's looking to the sideline.
• 42:31
  What do I do? What do I go, no, this, this
• 42:34
  game, he said I know exactly what to do.
• 42:37
  You know, you ain't going to throw the ball to my side.
• 42:39
  I'm going to take the whole team down here.
• 42:41
  We're going to celebrate. So.
• 42:42
  That was that was good to see, man.
• 42:44
  I was ecstatic to watch just him have a great game like that, but
• 42:51
  the whole team as well. Brian what do you think about
• 42:53
  that second one when you watched it?
• 42:55
  I mean that first one you said it tally.
• 42:57
  He just, he undercut it. He just like I know it.
• 43:01
  And if listening to him talk, if y'all didn't hear his interview,
• 43:04
  he was like we saw that play dialed up.
• 43:06
  As soon as he stuck his like foot in the ground.
• 43:08
  I knew what he was doing. I just knew what I had to do.
• 43:11
  LeBron, let's talk about the second one because at that point
• 43:14
  in time that that had a hurt them because you knew as soon as
• 43:18
  Castellano throw it, he thought that oh, he's open.
• 43:21
  I got him. He did not have him because
• 43:25
  Dorian had inside leverage in good position the whole way down
• 43:29
  went up made the play ball was a little under thrown.
• 43:32
  So I mean, and and this is going to, you know, looking at big
• 43:36
  picture, I mean, Dorian's really had quietly a very, very good
• 43:40
  season. And I think he's fought like
• 43:43
  getting things like this, getting on the stat sheet in a
• 43:46
  meaningful way. I think he's going to be good in
• 43:48
  terms of like all ACC accolades and things like that.
• 43:51
  But I mean, he's quietly had a very good year out there at
• 43:54
  cornerback. Now Sheldon what is the what is
• 43:57
  the statistics say about him is I mean does the data like his
• 44:01
  play? Do they not like his play
• 44:03
  because he does have 3 picks, 5 pass deflection, 16 tackles?
• 44:08
  What are they saying about his grades?
• 44:11
  Well, the analytics love Jordan Strong.
• 44:14
  He's 56 out of all Power 5 cornerbacks this season.
• 44:17
  I think there's there's about 250 qualified in the year, 48th
• 44:21
  in coverage. And he has the second best
• 44:24
  passer rating when targeted among all Power 5 cornerbacks in
• 44:28
  the country. So right around 14.6, only
• 44:31
  completing 29% of their passes. And you mentioned the three
• 44:33
  interceptions the longest pass play he's allowed this season,
• 44:36
  18 yards. So he's been he's been locked
• 44:39
  out of coverage the entire season.
• 44:42
  That is, that is Dan well and that's why we got that's why
• 44:46
  Shelton's here because Shelton knows where to go, what to look
• 44:50
  for that's second in the country that's that's impressive really.
• 44:56
  So is the 18, let's roll off, let's talk about, let's talk
• 45:00
  about the front seven Nets in a couple ways.
• 45:03
  This VC Russian attack was ninth in the country, coming in 211
• 45:07
  yards a game. They went for just 124, their
• 45:10
  season low, the first time they had been held under 150 since
• 45:15
  the first game of the season, way back on Labor Day weekend
• 45:18
  against Northern Illinois. And you know, you take a look at
• 45:22
  it and something we talked about like if if we can get that
• 45:26
  stopped and force them to throw, I said three.
• 45:31
  He threw 2. They were in Prop there.
• 45:35
  There's ABC fan out there that will tell you that game flow
• 45:38
  dictated the way this went. Oh, you killed him.
• 45:41
  If, if, if everybody see that Brian?
• 45:45
  Killed him that way. Yeah, that was fucking dumb.
• 45:49
  I mean, game flow, your first play of the game, you threw a
• 45:52
  pick like you're a running football team and you thought
• 45:55
  you were going to catch us slipping and say, hey, they
• 45:58
  hadn't been tested. We going to throw the ball on
• 46:00
  the first play of the game. No, it didn't work.
• 46:02
  So your game for was fucked up. That didn't have nothing to do
• 46:04
  with us. You got your ass beat.
• 46:06
  Take care of him. Here's what it is.
• 46:10
  My band said that they abandoned the run after they went down 10
• 46:12
  and like, I'm watching the tape back and I'm like motherfucker
• 46:17
  after. After we went down 10, you ran
• 46:19
  like I think you had like 7 or 8 plays on the next drive and six
• 46:23
  of them were runs. Shut the fuck up.
• 46:26
  And they still ran the ball more than they passed it.
• 46:28
  And 28 to 20. Yeah, people are going to,
• 46:31
  people are going to cope, you know, They just, they just
• 46:34
  weren't able to to run the ball or throw the ball like they
• 46:37
  wanted to. Yep.
• 46:39
  That's OK. Well, the.
• 46:42
  Other thing was you told me Castellanos had 46 yards.
• 46:46
  You could have told me he was under 50.
• 46:48
  I'd have told you we were going to win the game.
• 46:49
  It didn't even matter. His biggest was 12 and that was
• 46:52
  like the second, the second play on that second drive when they
• 46:55
  scored. That's we we talked about how
• 46:59
  important it was and it seemed like all game again and I and
• 47:04
  again I'm I I can't, I can't sit there and break this down.
• 47:07
  Brian probably could. It looked like similar to
• 47:09
  Schrader. The run lanes were not there and
• 47:13
  I know they were down and you can say, but that would even be
• 47:17
  more of an opportunity for run lanes to open and they just
• 47:19
  weren't there. Yeah, they just.
• 47:23
  I mean. I think rolling into the next
• 47:26
  game, that was a great game to have.
• 47:27
  Rolling into the North Carolina State game because it's going to
• 47:31
  be more of the same. I know we're going to get into
• 47:32
  it a little bit later, but their they knew their strength.
• 47:38
  I know that their top running back was out, but it's football.
• 47:41
  Everybody had somebody hurt. I bet safety was out.
• 47:44
  You know, like, I I love to see fans talk about somebody being
• 47:48
  injured. You know what I'm saying?
• 47:49
  Like. Louisville's running back was
• 47:52
  injured and their backup running back beat the shit out of us.
• 47:55
  You know it's football. So making me and we we we had
• 48:00
  arguably our best wide receiver since the second snap of Purdue,
• 48:03
  so. Let's say our starting tidy in
• 48:05
  was out before the season. Our probably arguably best wide
• 48:08
  receiver hadn't played. It's a lot.
• 48:10
  It's football. Things happen.
• 48:11
  So they had that number one rusher, which is their
• 48:14
  quarterback, and he wasn't getting loose.
• 48:17
  He ran for 46 yards, so. Kudos to the defense.
• 48:20
  We got to give a shout out to Marv, man, we don't hear his
• 48:23
  name enough. Like Marv is doing a pretty good
• 48:26
  job with the defense adjusting. I think somebody may have talked
• 48:29
  about it last week, talking about wanting to see the
• 48:31
  adjustments quicker. Was that you, Curtis, or was it
• 48:34
  Brian? That was me.
• 48:36
  Yeah. Like there was a whole range.
• 48:39
  Yeah, that first drive, you know when they went down, because
• 48:42
  when you talk about game flow, whatever your buddy was talking
• 48:45
  about Brian, like we went down. We get the pick, we get three
• 48:50
  points. We're going to talk about that a
• 48:52
  little later too. And what went bad.
• 48:54
  Parker Clemens, I'm coming for you.
• 48:57
  We we get the three points, they get the ball back.
• 49:01
  I'm in the car. I'm like, this might be a long
• 49:03
  day. Like we can't get off the field
• 49:05
  on 3rd downs. They're just quarterbacks just
• 49:09
  scampering for 10 yards, 8 yards here and they go down and they
• 49:13
  end up running back, bust a big run on us.
• 49:15
  They go down and score. It's 7:00 to 3:00 so.
• 49:18
  We had to make some adjustments, you know, because those running
• 49:22
  lanes was open in that first drive.
• 49:24
  So I'm glad to see that our coaching staff is adjusting and,
• 49:31
  you know, making some game flow adjustments like we did in this
• 49:34
  game because sometimes I don't be feeling like they can.
• 49:38
  They know how to do that and they proved me wrong this week.
• 49:40
  So kudos tomorrow for having the boys ready to go making
• 49:44
  adjustments on the fly. And we got to say Kudos the
• 49:48
  Cheetah too. And he got them.
• 49:49
  Defeat them. D BS Baller.
• 49:51
  He did that. He did that.
• 49:53
  I want to also talk about Brian. You said something last week.
• 49:57
  What do you talk about? If we didn't do it, it was not
• 49:59
  going to be a fun day tackling. We did that pretty well.
• 50:03
  We wrapped up pretty good, man. We wrapped up pretty good.
• 50:06
  Now something I noticed and I asked Sheldon to look us up for
• 50:09
  us, Sheldon, what were the linebackers?
• 50:10
  Snap counts and then grades because.
• 50:13
  I think I saw 38 out there, a lot of 39393838.
• 50:18
  OK. Yeah, they, they, their numbers
• 50:20
  shouldn't be that close together.
• 50:22
  Yeah, they messing this up, I know.
• 50:24
  What? What we got there?
• 50:25
  So Tisdale played the most, but he played 34.
• 50:29
  He was a 56th grade again, probably, I would say probably
• 50:32
  60 is sort of like passing slash serviceable.
• 50:35
  So Kelly Lawson played 33 snaps. He was not great.
• 50:39
  Jane McDonald played 24 and then Jane Keller played 16.
• 50:42
  So those are the top 4 linebackers.
• 50:44
  It's good to see McDonald and Keller get in there a number of
• 50:47
  snaps. That's to me key and that and
• 50:52
  did what was McDonald's great Just wondering if Keller if
• 50:55
  Tisdale was a. 50 McDonald McDonald was around A50, so not,
• 50:59
  not. Great.
• 51:00
  Not great. But sometimes you don't need to
• 51:02
  be great. All right, real quick.
• 51:04
  Special teams. That was one of the best onside
• 51:08
  kicks I've ever seen in my life. I mean, that thing slid and
• 51:14
  homeboy did not know what to do. And just Jalen Jones just
• 51:17
  getting in there to poop. Yep, scooped it up.
• 51:20
  But let's fire Stu Holt. Y'all that the the the guy on
• 51:25
  the second line froze, man. He was not expecting that at
• 51:28
  all. By by the time he reacted, Jones
• 51:30
  was already in there with the ball.
• 51:32
  Right and like perfectly angled right past that, the guy on the
• 51:36
  front line. Like I said, being on the road,
• 51:39
  man. Sometimes like I'm phone or go
• 51:41
  out of service or I got to answer a call or something and
• 51:45
  then I get a text message it it says I think it's Shelton says
• 51:48
  ballsy call. And I'm like that was a ballsy
• 51:51
  call. And then I go back and see we
• 51:55
  fucking kicked our own sidekick. Like, OK, pretty cool.
• 51:59
  But it was a, it was an executing to your point Brian,
• 52:01
  it's where it was done. Because you know usually you're
• 52:05
  going to go more angle with an on psychic not not to sneak up
• 52:08
  the middle like you said, it froze that guy froze him up.
• 52:12
  Now one play I know Stally saw because we texted about it, was
• 52:16
  the lane punt return tally. Did Luke Shields really block
• 52:19
  that man in the back, or is it just?
• 52:22
  I'm going to say fuck though. No, he didn't block him in the
• 52:24
  back, man. It might have been some contact,
• 52:27
  but he didn't block him in the back, man.
• 52:28
  He man, let us get the touchdown.
• 52:30
  Quit playing around. Y'all trying to let them stay in
• 52:32
  the game. They were going to catch the ass
• 52:35
  whooping no matter what. They don't need to try to save
• 52:36
  them. Hey man, good job, man.
• 52:39
  Karma jumped in there and Lane got that touchdown anyway on
• 52:41
  that. And so we drive that little.
• 52:44
  Inside the five touchdown so lots of good all over the place.
• 52:48
  So let's flip it over real quick.
• 52:50
  I'm going to try to wrap this up in about 5 minutes here.
• 52:52
  What went bad? Y'all we we got to start with
• 52:56
  stoppage. Procedural penalties tally.
• 52:58
  Go ahead. You said you got to call him
• 53:00
  out. He had a He had an average game,
• 53:02
  but that first drive, seeing that play.
• 53:04
  Parker just stay. It's fourth and one.
• 53:08
  We are in the red zone, just stay on sides.
• 53:12
  He was so early. I know he wanted to go do some
• 53:14
  good. I know he wanted to block
• 53:17
  somebody and get a first now, but just stay on sides, man.
• 53:21
  You can't jump off sides and move us back and we got to kick
• 53:25
  a a field goal there. So yeah, procedural penalties,
• 53:28
  man. Let's not do that.
• 53:30
  Don't do that again. Well the bad thing is that we
• 53:33
  the play actually happened and we got the first down, but it
• 53:35
  was he was offsides before the play happened, so.
• 53:37
  Right way outsides all. Right, the other thing, Kyle
• 53:43
  Lowe quit trying to angle the ball, Kick It Out of bounds.
• 53:47
  He kicked another one out of bounds.
• 53:48
  That made me lose my mind. That's the that's the drive they
• 53:53
  scored on, too. That's the drive they scored on.
• 53:54
  That is, the drive they scored on started well, kind of, kind
• 53:57
  of set them up nicely there and they kind of took advantage of
• 54:00
  that. Now the other thing I'll say in
• 54:03
  I don't like this. Going into the game this week
• 54:05
  against NC State, we put the ball on the ground five times.
• 54:08
  We recovered three of them, two were late in the game.
• 54:12
  I am hoping this week they are working like hell to everybody
• 54:15
  keep, stay on the ball because that is not good at all, not
• 54:21
  good at all. We don't talk about the Grant
• 54:23
  Wells fumble. We got to talk about the Grant
• 54:24
  Wells fumble. You don't talk about it, I mean.
• 54:30
  He doesn't took, he doesn't took enough punishment.
• 54:32
  Man, he took so much. Grant That's the one we'll say
• 54:35
  from BCP. Put the ball in your fucking
• 54:37
  outside arm when you're running. I mean, you had nobody in front
• 54:41
  of you, nobody around you. You've been playing football
• 54:44
  long enough. You've probably been doing this
• 54:45
  since peewee. Switch that ball to the outside
• 54:47
  arm. So even if it does get punched
• 54:49
  out, it might just go out of bounce like.
• 54:53
  He that ball is no way that that ball is supposed to stay on a
• 54:56
  line and it and and tiptoe down the sideline and go out of
• 54:59
  bounce in the end zone like that's just not supposed to
• 55:02
  happen on a straight. You need to on a straight man,
• 55:05
  Grant. You better say your prayers.
• 55:06
  I'll. I'll say this man.
• 55:08
  I can tell that Grant's been running like running like those
• 55:10
  40s or 50 yard gassers because he hit about 45 yards and he
• 55:15
  lost all that. All that juice, man.
• 55:18
  He was quick too man with his with his ankle being bad.
• 55:22
  I didn't think he was going to have the juice like that like he
• 55:24
  was getting loose for a minute until the until that old man
• 55:28
  caught a winning grant like 30 years old.
• 55:30
  So you know what I'm saying? He about to be us in a couple of
• 55:32
  years a couple of them beers start catching up with him.
• 55:35
  He he, he got a little tired and started falling down.
• 55:38
  But yeah, man, we ain't going to get on Grant too hard.
• 55:40
  But yeah, you got to you got to put the ball in your outside on
• 55:42
  him, man. Good read by him, though.
• 55:44
  I'll give him that read. Very good.
• 55:45
  Read We. Wanted the 50 Burgle.
• 55:48
  All right, real quick. I'm going to go through all
• 55:49
  y'all one thing. You were not prepared for what
• 55:52
  we were not prepared for, Tally. What I wasn't prepared for.
• 55:56
  What were you prepared for? Let's see.
• 56:00
  I wasn't prepared to beat them by fucking 30 points.
• 56:05
  I wasn't prepared for that. All right, Brian?
• 56:08
  Yeah. I wasn't prepared for a decisive
• 56:10
  Rd. victory. I expected us to win that game.
• 56:12
  I was not expecting us to dominate them cover to cover and
• 56:16
  make them look, frankly, like a bad fucking football team.
• 56:20
  Cap. Sheldon anything?
• 56:23
  Yeah well, I was. I wasn't prepared for how well
• 56:28
  they limited Castellanos in the run game.
• 56:30
  I mean if you didn't know he he came into coming to the game he
• 56:35
  he was the leading rusher and designed rushing yards among all
• 56:38
  quarterbacks in the entire country.
• 56:39
  I think he has 695 rushing yards, leads the country, leads
• 56:43
  Power Five and four Smith's tackles.
• 56:45
  Leads the entire country in first down runs.
• 56:47
  Again, this is all among quarterbacks like he he is a
• 56:50
  very, very good runner with the football and they held him to I
• 56:52
  think like 2.9 yards per design rushing attempt, like 2929 yards
• 56:57
  on 10 carries. So they they did a great job on
• 56:59
  him that was, I mean basically that was the entire game plan
• 57:02
  'cause we know BC doesn't have the guys outside of him.
• 57:04
  So the way the way they shut him down was surprisingly
• 57:08
  unexpected, but pretty nice to see.
• 57:10
  Very nice. For me it was just the offensive
• 57:12
  domination, 600 yards. I mean, if you would have told
• 57:15
  me four. 5500 out of an happy 600 is unbelievable and it's
• 57:18
  great to see from it All right. Things we got to do moving
• 57:22
  forward what y'all got. Let's clean up the penalties,
• 57:26
  all right, We're going to say that every week until we get the
• 57:28
  get it done. He won't.
• 57:30
  Stick it up, clean it up. Just not at crazy times, man.
• 57:34
  You know what I'm saying? Like 4 for one.
• 57:36
  Don't jump out. Like, I feel like we've been
• 57:38
  doing that for a while. Jumping off sides on 4th and one
• 57:41
  no matter whose fault it is, stay on sides.
• 57:44
  Don't you shut my my thing is protect the damn football.
• 57:49
  Because when we protect the football, we're a hard team to
• 57:52
  be. Chilling.
• 57:54
  You got anything? Yeah, I just, I want to see more
• 57:57
  from the right side of the offensive line.
• 57:59
  I mean, there's too many snaps where I think Parker, Parker,
• 58:01
  Clements is just out there getting cardio.
• 58:04
  I just, I need, I I need more, man.
• 58:06
  Bob Chick, I need more. Just need more from y'all.
• 58:09
  Just got to get more and we'll be, we'll be we'll be grooving
• 58:11
  there to get that. Tally talked about it, Rex
• 58:15
  talked about it. Don't change the road routine.
• 58:19
  Figure out something like that every week.
• 58:20
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  All right, well, let's hit it up here with Know the enemy for the
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  NC State Wolfpack. And Brian, don't you start us
• 1:00:01
  out here with the offense led by somebody we're all familiar
• 1:00:05
  with, Robert and I. Yeah, we are looking at a
• 1:00:09
  multiple spread option offense that they'll run tempo
• 1:00:12
  occasionally when they get a a good running play, good good
• 1:00:15
  first down play there definitely A-Team that's not afraid of the
• 1:00:19
  trick play. They'll use a heavy use of
• 1:00:22
  motion to kind of shift gap gap responsibilities and create some
• 1:00:25
  mismatches in the in the running game and and occasionally in the
• 1:00:29
  passing game as well. He had a great season in 2021
• 1:00:34
  with UVA and had some instant success in 2022 at Syracuse.
• 1:00:37
  But you know, really, he hasn't improved the offensive numbers
• 1:00:43
  at all here compared to Beck's offense last year at NC State.
• 1:00:48
  And I mean from a defensive side, I mean, this is a very
• 1:00:52
  similar offense in terms of strengths and weaknesses that
• 1:00:56
  we've seen with Syracuse and BC. You know, over the last three
• 1:01:00
  weeks or so. So you know that that's
• 1:01:02
  something I think that kind of plays in our favor a little bit
• 1:01:04
  is that we're kind of familiar with the type of attack we're
• 1:01:07
  we're expecting to get. All right, Shell, none of this
• 1:01:10
  team ranks one O 5 in total offense.
• 1:01:12
  They are not great statistically, but as you
• 1:01:15
  started doing some breakdown, do they do anything good?
• 1:01:18
  Is there anything we need to be like?
• 1:01:19
  If they start doing this, they might have a decent offensive
• 1:01:23
  day. I mean looking through the
• 1:01:26
  numbers honestly there's not a lot.
• 1:01:27
  I'm just you know being real now their opposite line has been OK
• 1:01:32
  if you want to kind of relay that that segment into it.
• 1:01:35
  But you know they, they are solid OK in the run blocking
• 1:01:41
  game. I think they've got a couple of
• 1:01:43
  good receivers, starting with Kevin Concepcion who again will
• 1:01:46
  talk about, you know he's he's pretty big on yards after catch,
• 1:01:49
  so. You know, some decent, decent
• 1:01:52
  wide receivers. But in terms of just team
• 1:01:54
  results, I mean, I was looking through the stats today.
• 1:01:56
  There's just there's just not a lot there.
• 1:01:58
  I mean, they don't generate a ton of explosive plays either in
• 1:02:00
  the running game or the passing game.
• 1:02:01
  You know, their success rate's not great, it's just it's pretty
• 1:02:05
  bleak for them all around. All righty.
• 1:02:08
  Well Tally, I'll let you lead off with the first player here.
• 1:02:11
  Man, the first player we're going to talk about is their
• 1:02:16
  wide, I mean, their quarterback #5.
• 1:02:19
  On the stat sheet, number one in Hokey's hearts, Brandon
• 1:02:24
  Armstrong. Mean he's no stranger to Hokey
• 1:02:27
  Nation man. He's been playing at UVA
• 1:02:30
  transferred over to North Carolina State because he got
• 1:02:32
  tired of losing, getting his ass beat.
• 1:02:34
  So he thought it'd be better for him to go over there and play.
• 1:02:36
  He's got 6 touchdowns, 6 interceptions.
• 1:02:42
  Earlier this season, he got his He got his job, took by.
• 1:02:47
  Morris. Then Morris decides he wants the
• 1:02:48
  red shirt. Probably going to transfer, in
• 1:02:51
  my opinion. I don't know.
• 1:02:52
  But Brendan Armstrong, man. Red Rocket, what you got?
• 1:02:56
  What you got on him, Brian? I I call him Brendan arm weak
• 1:03:00
  because he does not have a very strong arm he he he he cannot
• 1:03:05
  push the ball down the field very well you know pretty pretty
• 1:03:09
  decent with with with the intermediate stuff but he's
• 1:03:12
  probably he's really going to be.
• 1:03:14
  A design run, scramble, drill that that's his bread and butter
• 1:03:18
  that that's where he's at his best throwing.
• 1:03:21
  He's better on rollouts and improv than he is confined to
• 1:03:24
  the pocket. If we can get him in obvious
• 1:03:27
  passing situations, that's the better for us.
• 1:03:30
  He will escape, make plays with his legs.
• 1:03:31
  Obviously we've seen that. And you know when when he was at
• 1:03:37
  UVA, remember all them UVA fans joking?
• 1:03:39
  We got Baby Tebow. Baby T bowl.
• 1:03:42
  Yeah, he's he's pretty much a worse or smaller Taysom Hill at
• 1:03:46
  this point. That's really all he is.
• 1:03:48
  All right. Sean, you got anything on him?
• 1:03:51
  Yeah, so about middle of the pack.
• 1:03:53
  As far as PFF grade, he has been a lot better than MJ Morris, who
• 1:03:57
  really struggled when when he played his four games kind of
• 1:04:01
  below average passer rating. He has not been as turnover
• 1:04:04
  prone the last couple years when it comes to interceptions, but
• 1:04:07
  he does have a case of fumbleitis with 19 total fumbles
• 1:04:11
  in four years as a starter. So definitely something to keep
• 1:04:14
  an eye on, especially if he starts.
• 1:04:15
  If he starts scrambling, he's not running like he used to in
• 1:04:19
  terms of just the the big running plays and he's and his
• 1:04:22
  receivers have not done him a ton of favors when when it comes
• 1:04:25
  to driving passes. In terms of the passing splits
• 1:04:28
  like Brian was alluding to, the deeper accuracy has been not
• 1:04:32
  great. As an aside, it was actually
• 1:04:34
  much worse for MJ Morris. Again, it was arguably the worst
• 1:04:38
  deep ball passer than type R5 before they made the switch and
• 1:04:40
  he decided to retro. But still not great for
• 1:04:43
  Armstrong. And in terms of style stats, NCC
• 1:04:49
  is much better running play action.
• 1:04:51
  With Armstrong in there, I think their completion percentage is
• 1:04:54
  about 17% higher when they're running play action, which is
• 1:04:57
  one of the biggest differentials in the country compared to when
• 1:05:00
  they're when they do not run play action.
• 1:05:01
  So play action, passing a big bread and butter staple for
• 1:05:04
  them. All righty and to me, when I
• 1:05:07
  went deep diving through the stats lines this week, they
• 1:05:11
  really only have one guy who was absolutely leading this team in
• 1:05:17
  everything stat wise when it comes to receiving.
• 1:05:19
  That's the true freshman. That's right, I said true
• 1:05:23
  freshman Kevin Concepcion. He's 511.
• 1:05:26
  He's 185 pounds. He was a three star out of the
• 1:05:29
  state of North Carolina in 2023, the 23rd ranked player out of
• 1:05:34
  Julius Chambers down in Charlotte, NC And so far this
• 1:05:37
  season's just, statistically speaking, 50 receptions over 570
• 1:05:43
  yards, little over 11 per catch, 6 touchdowns.
• 1:05:47
  But that's not all he does right Brian?
• 1:05:50
  Because they've used him quite a they've used him a few times in
• 1:05:53
  the run game as well. Yeah, he's got, I think like
• 1:05:56
  about 20 carries or something on the season.
• 1:05:58
  He's their primary receiving threat.
• 1:06:02
  Use a lot on trick plays, use on, use them on jet sweeps.
• 1:06:06
  They like to even line him up and just run, run zone with him
• 1:06:09
  as well from time to time. Really good quickness and change
• 1:06:13
  of direction. Top end speed is good but not
• 1:06:16
  elite. He's more of a yards after catch
• 1:06:19
  guy as as Sheldon was alluding to.
• 1:06:22
  And yeah, I mean he's he's really their primary threat
• 1:06:25
  outside of the quarterback running the football.
• 1:06:28
  All righty and Sheldon anything additional on Concepcion?
• 1:06:32
  Because I mean, to be a true freshman putting up these kind
• 1:06:35
  of numbers, I mean that's it's not Shatty at all.
• 1:06:39
  Yeah, he's been, he's been really great.
• 1:06:40
  Obviously the the slot receiver, the 10th best grader in the ACC
• 1:06:44
  among receivers now. He is not a big, he is not a big
• 1:06:48
  yards per catch guy, only around 11, you know playing the slot
• 1:06:51
  I'm sure has an impact in that. But what he's very good at, as I
• 1:06:55
  alluded to, is yards after catch.
• 1:06:57
  He has totaled the 390 yards after catch this season and he
• 1:07:01
  is also graded as the best pass blocker in the ACC.
• 1:07:05
  So I guess NC State likes to, you know, pass back with the
• 1:07:08
  right receivers a little bit. So that's that's one strength of
• 1:07:10
  the scam as well. Super interesting to see that.
• 1:07:13
  All right, let's flip because as me and Brian started chatting
• 1:07:16
  about this skill position wise, we really couldn't find much
• 1:07:22
  else because there is no other wide receivers on this team.
• 1:07:27
  And I'm saying this, there's nobody else.
• 1:07:30
  There's nobody above 200 yards receiving.
• 1:07:33
  There's no running back above 300 yards.
• 1:07:35
  I mean, we're we're 10 games in, 10 games into the season.
• 1:07:39
  That's saying there's nobody that can get 30 yards a game
• 1:07:42
  from them other than Brendan Armstrong.
• 1:07:43
  So Brian, I'll let you go with this sort of hodgepodge of who
• 1:07:48
  else are you thinking of? Because I looked at the injury
• 1:07:50
  report today and Michael Allen, you know, he got hurt during the
• 1:07:55
  weight game. And yeah, I mean, they're going
• 1:07:58
  to use them. Yeah, they're they you know,
• 1:08:00
  they got some other receivers out there.
• 1:08:02
  They get very limited targets. Conception's really the guy when
• 1:08:06
  it comes to the running back. They rotate a bevy of running
• 1:08:09
  backs in there. The guy to keep an eye on
• 1:08:11
  probably is going to be Kendrick Raphael.
• 1:08:14
  He had a pretty decent snap count against Wake.
• 1:08:18
  He is a freshman, but he's really kind of the guy that the
• 1:08:23
  the the flavor of the month. He's kind of the guy that's
• 1:08:25
  getting the most run of late. But expect to see, you know 5
• 1:08:29
  plus bodies in the backfield including Concepcion at some
• 1:08:32
  point at the running back position this week.
• 1:08:35
  That is pretty wild to see. I don't know, Sheldon already
• 1:08:38
  alluded to just a few minutes ago about their run game.
• 1:08:40
  Brian talking about pretty good run blocking grade.
• 1:08:43
  Did the tape kind of. Did the tape kind of say that as
• 1:08:47
  well? Yeah, I called them above
• 1:08:48
  average in the run blocking. They do a pretty good job of on
• 1:08:52
  their double teams, getting to the second level, things like
• 1:08:54
  that. I called their pass pro very
• 1:08:57
  mid. I'd.
• 1:08:58
  I'd call their blitz pick up poor.
• 1:09:00
  OK, all right. Anything else?
• 1:09:03
  I know you already mentioned the run grades.
• 1:09:05
  Anything on the pass pro grades for that offensive line group,
• 1:09:08
  Sheldon? Yes, exactly what Brian said.
• 1:09:11
  So in terms of pass protection, they do not have anyone that
• 1:09:14
  grades particularly highly, none that are awful, but just none
• 1:09:18
  that are really stand out their highest graded player.
• 1:09:21
  I'm looking through it here. So Dilnick, man, their center is
• 1:09:26
  up there. He's, yeah, he kind of took over
• 1:09:31
  for Lyndon Cooper, who was trucking a little bit.
• 1:09:33
  They moved him around a couple positions, so he's not starting
• 1:09:36
  anymore. They got left tackle Anthony
• 1:09:38
  Bellman started every game. And Anthony Carter, their left
• 1:09:41
  guard, has played both guard spots.
• 1:09:43
  He is their worst grade among starters at 58.9.
• 1:09:46
  Now again, 60 is considered passing.
• 1:09:49
  So All in all, that's not terrible.
• 1:09:50
  It's just on the whole kind of a pretty average to maybe slightly
• 1:09:54
  below average unit. And then they've also got right
• 1:09:58
  guard Timothy McKay. He's struggled in the past, you
• 1:10:00
  know, three games or so. And then right tackle Jakarius
• 1:10:03
  Peak. Started the last three games.
• 1:10:05
  They switched him over from left tackle, but he did have his best
• 1:10:08
  game of the season last time out against Wake Forest.
• 1:10:10
  So again, no real standouts there, but also no guys that are
• 1:10:14
  really that too bad either. All righty.
• 1:10:17
  So there it is, some information on the NC State offense and I'm
• 1:10:23
  going to put this up here just because he's our buddy and he
• 1:10:27
  does know some people with confirming that Michael is hurt.
• 1:10:30
  So OK, and that's that's someone who put up some decent stats for
• 1:10:34
  them this year. Pull it up here real quick.
• 1:10:38
  Michael Allen had went 52 rushes for 251 yards averaging right at
• 1:10:44
  5A game. So as far as it goes, yards per
• 1:10:47
  game, him and Kendrick Croft, AL, that you mentioned there,
• 1:10:50
  Brian, were the leaders there in yards per gaming with the guys
• 1:10:54
  who got some carries. So that is an interesting turn
• 1:10:56
  right there. All right, let's flip to the
• 1:10:58
  other side of the ball because this team is not built on
• 1:11:00
  offense, it is built on defense. Brian, what are we seeing?
• 1:11:04
  Yeah, we got the Tony Gibson 335 stack there.
• 1:11:08
  Super aggressive uses. Pressure and confusion to gain
• 1:11:13
  advantage over offenses. Lots of disguise coverage.
• 1:11:17
  Still mostly going to be cover 3, cover one, cover 6.
• 1:11:19
  But they're they're going to disguise that and.
• 1:11:22
  Kind of make things look a lot different than what we're used
• 1:11:24
  to just because of the the nature of the three three fives
• 1:11:27
  alignment there. And yeah, I mean it's it's this
• 1:11:32
  is this team lives and dies by their defense.
• 1:11:35
  They honestly, God do and to me they live and die by one player
• 1:11:38
  and that is the 6th year. Yes, I said sixth year.
• 1:11:41
  He was a 2018 commit there a would.
• 1:11:45
  Just leave. He didn't leave last year.
• 1:11:49
  His NIL deal must be really big. He must not.
• 1:11:52
  Well, actually, I'm going to ask pay.
• 1:11:54
  I'm going to ask Sheldon the question on Peyton Wilson in
• 1:11:56
  just a second here. He was a top 50 player when he
• 1:11:59
  came out. He was a four-star, a 97,
• 1:12:01
  ranking on 247 and so far this year he is a Benderick
• 1:12:06
  semifinalist. When you get into the to be the
• 1:12:10
  semi finalists of some of those, your stats are good, your play
• 1:12:13
  is usually good and so far this season 112 tackles, 12 for loss.
• 1:12:18
  He added four sacks of that two picks.
• 1:12:21
  He also scored a touchdown, 6 pass deflection, 2 fumble
• 1:12:25
  recoveries. He is able to do it all.
• 1:12:27
  He is everywhere and it's been like that it pretty much his
• 1:12:31
  entire career. And Brian, why is that?
• 1:12:34
  It's simply that he's the best player on both sides of the
• 1:12:37
  football for this team. I mean, he is.
• 1:12:39
  Probably probably even head and shoulders at this point.
• 1:12:42
  You know he's the outside linebacker.
• 1:12:43
  They use them very heavily in blitz packages.
• 1:12:47
  He's a lot plays, a lot of backside in the run, support on
• 1:12:49
  the on the weak side. There really good instincts in
• 1:12:52
  pursuit, really good at kind of working through the shit as it
• 1:12:56
  as it were. He he, he's able to get through
• 1:12:59
  there, make plays, doesn't get caught up in blocks and things
• 1:13:03
  like that very often. Just really good speed as well.
• 1:13:09
  Kind of tracks the ball well especially in coverage as well.
• 1:13:12
  So he's he's not really a a liability in coverage like some
• 1:13:15
  of your linebackers would be All righty the the stats say it.
• 1:13:21
  Bronze Eye says it. Do the do The deep analytical
• 1:13:24
  points say he's elite. Yes.
• 1:13:27
  I mean, there's really nothing that he's not excel at.
• 1:13:29
  So, fifth highest graded ACC defenders, second best among
• 1:13:33
  linebackers. He's good in the run defense,
• 1:13:35
  good in tackling and also excellent in coverage with the
• 1:13:37
  56 passer rating against, which is really good for a linebacker,
• 1:13:41
  second in ACC in tackles and also leads to conference and
• 1:13:45
  stops, which PFF categorizes as a a tackle.
• 1:13:49
  That is a loss for the defense. He's got a 54 in the year.
• 1:13:52
  I think the next closest guy is not very close, probably like at
• 1:13:56
  45. S 9 best.
• 1:13:58
  The next closest guy's pretty good and obviously he's been in
• 1:14:01
  college for six years. He's a Buckus Award finalist.
• 1:14:04
  I'm sorry, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:14:06
  There's just, I mean, there's just nothing that he doesn't do
• 1:14:09
  well. I think what you put, you can
• 1:14:12
  put up what Robbie said. I think him just being injured
• 1:14:17
  often is why he probably came back.
• 1:14:19
  He'll probably have some unfinished business because he's
• 1:14:21
  been hurt just about every year. So I think that's one of the
• 1:14:25
  things that brought him back. But next we'll talk about a big.
• 1:14:31
  Davin Van from what Cary, NC he was class of 2020.
• 1:14:38
  He was a four-star 247 athlete composite ranking.
• 1:14:45
  Let's see here. It's kind of weird though when I
• 1:14:47
  looked up his stuff because he was ranked very high, but his
• 1:14:52
  offers didn't kind of match up to what his ranking was.
• 1:14:55
  His biggest offers with North Carolina State and Louisville.
• 1:15:00
  You know, and then he has a couple other offers kind of
• 1:15:03
  peppered in there, but they're smaller yet.
• 1:15:06
  App State, Central Michigan, Coastal Carolina, East Carolina,
• 1:15:14
  Liberty. He may have just got the North
• 1:15:16
  Carolina offer and decided, hey, that's where he was going to go,
• 1:15:21
  but it didn't have a lot of big, didn't have a lot of big offers
• 1:15:25
  coming out of high school from what I can see.
• 1:15:29
  Let me see here had another stat for you, but we'll just start to
• 1:15:33
  Brian. Brian, what you got on him?
• 1:15:36
  Yeah, I mean he's another very strong run defender.
• 1:15:39
  I really like what he does. He's a very versatile player.
• 1:15:42
  He's ADN, but they'll kind of line him up all across the
• 1:15:44
  interior there from A5 all the way to a a shade or a one.
• 1:15:48
  So you can really kind of do everything.
• 1:15:51
  I'd. I'd say he's probably an average
• 1:15:54
  pass rusher overall, but he will occasionally flash and he's
• 1:15:56
  really good at collapsing and pressing the pocket.
• 1:16:00
  All righty, Callie, did you? I got the stat line pulled up
• 1:16:06
  here. What was catching your.
• 1:16:07
  Do you recall I got the stats pulled up here?
• 1:16:12
  I mean, he's got like 34 tackles, 5 1/2 sacks this year.
• 1:16:16
  Yeah, that's what it was. I was looking at his at his
• 1:16:19
  sacks, just kind of seeing what his sacks was.
• 1:16:22
  Yeah, 5 1/2 of this year leading the team.
• 1:16:24
  So I mean pretty daggone good on that end.
• 1:16:27
  And again, it's another good player.
• 1:16:30
  Again high rank and I think probably it's what you said to
• 1:16:32
  Alec, probably got committed early and just stayed there.
• 1:16:35
  That's where he wanted to play carries not far from Raleigh, I
• 1:16:38
  can tell you. Well, that's what Robbie said.
• 1:16:40
  He said. Yeah, he said the school isn't
• 1:16:42
  that good, I guess so. Probably didn't have a lot of
• 1:16:44
  people coming there to look at it, you know.
• 1:16:47
  All righty. Shout out to Robbie.
• 1:16:52
  Shout out to Robbie Robbie. I'm probably filling in the gas
• 1:16:56
  for us. I always love it.
• 1:16:57
  Exactly, exactly. All right, one more player we're
• 1:17:00
  going to look out here, and that is the cornerback, Aiden White.
• 1:17:05
  Aiden White, a 2022 All ACC cornerback.
• 1:17:08
  And I mean if you take a look last year at what he did, he was
• 1:17:12
  really good with 46 tackles, 4 picks, 9 pass deflection.
• 1:17:16
  So real deal. He was a three star 88 when he
• 1:17:20
  came out of Christ School down in Arden, NC, a top 20 player in
• 1:17:24
  the state of North Carolina that year and this year he ain't
• 1:17:28
  shabby either, 27 tackles, he's got 2 picks already, 7 pass
• 1:17:34
  deflections in nine games. So he has missed a game this
• 1:17:37
  year and again to me, probably a guy who's probably going to
• 1:17:42
  leave after this year after having these two really good
• 1:17:45
  back-to-back years for NC State. Brian, what's the tape telling
• 1:17:48
  you on him? Yeah, he's a he's a very
• 1:17:50
  balanced corner, really good at playing the run in the past, not
• 1:17:54
  afraid to stick his head in there and make a play in the run
• 1:17:56
  game. Pretty sure tackler for a
• 1:17:59
  cornerback. In terms of coverage.
• 1:18:02
  I like him more in man than in zone, but he's he's not a
• 1:18:05
  slouching zone either and he plays a lot longer than his 6
• 1:18:09
  foot height. Even when he's covering tall
• 1:18:11
  receivers he's he's high pointing the ball, well, he's
• 1:18:14
  getting the ball out of their hands.
• 1:18:16
  So you're not going to create a lot of mismatches against him
• 1:18:18
  even though he's you know 6 foot or probably more like 511 in the
• 1:18:24
  in the in the shoes there. So really good cornerback.
• 1:18:28
  Definitely someone you don't want to test too often.
• 1:18:31
  All righty. So that kind of wraps up the
• 1:18:33
  players we're going to look out there, and now what we're going
• 1:18:35
  to look at, we're going to take a look at the Hokie keys to
• 1:18:37
  victory, things that each of us feels like has to happen
• 1:18:40
  Saturday for the Hokies to get the win.
• 1:18:42
  And since he's been quiet for a few minutes here, Sheldon,
• 1:18:45
  what's your key on this? What do the Hokies have to do,
• 1:18:48
  or what do we have to prevent NC State from doing?
• 1:18:53
  I would say just defensively, you know, don't allow successful
• 1:18:58
  run plays on 1st down. I mean I feel like I kind of say
• 1:19:00
  that a lot, but it really is true.
• 1:19:02
  Like so much of football is just predicated on 1st down success,
• 1:19:05
  like first down is there to set up second down, which is there
• 1:19:09
  to ideally set up third down. So if you're successful on 1st
• 1:19:11
  down, ideally that's going to set you up for more success on
• 1:19:14
  the later downs. And I think when you look at NC
• 1:19:16
  State's offense, they their their inability to generate
• 1:19:19
  explosive plays. Is going to make it very
• 1:19:22
  difficult for them to continue with drives if they are behind
• 1:19:26
  the sticks on 2nd down. So you know just take care of
• 1:19:30
  business on those early downs and I think they'll be good.
• 1:19:32
  I think, you know, defensively, I I, I don't have any too too
• 1:19:37
  many concerns about, you know, tech's ability to, you know, get
• 1:19:39
  a few points on the board. But just take care of business
• 1:19:42
  on those early downs and they'll be cooking.
• 1:19:44
  All right, bro, What do you got? Yeah, and this'll you know
• 1:19:48
  playoff of Sheldon's. I I I think early success on on
• 1:19:51
  both ways. If we're if we're successful on
• 1:19:53
  early downs on offense we're getting you know solid plays on
• 1:19:57
  1st down. I think that bodes well for us.
• 1:20:00
  Sheldon mentioned it earlier, they're most successful in the
• 1:20:03
  passing game off play action if you're holding them to.
• 1:20:08
  No gain or short gain on 1st down play.
• 1:20:11
  Action becomes less of a factor in their offense, so success on
• 1:20:14
  early downs is definitely going to be the key on both sides.
• 1:20:17
  All right. What you got, Tally?
• 1:20:19
  Man, somebody put it up earlier too.
• 1:20:23
  I can't remember who put it up in the comments, but just still
• 1:20:26
  a possession, you know, special teams.
• 1:20:29
  We had a onside kick. Do that again.
• 1:20:32
  If we need it, you know, fake pun.
• 1:20:34
  If we need it, like find a way to steal a possession from him,
• 1:20:37
  you know, because that's we got to have some kind of success
• 1:20:40
  besides just being able to. It is Robbie.
• 1:20:44
  I should have knew who it was. Continue special teams
• 1:20:47
  surprises, you know, like we got to find a way to steal a
• 1:20:51
  possession from them because they're going to come in and
• 1:20:54
  they're a good team. But guess what?
• 1:20:56
  They're coming into our house and we need to beat them.
• 1:20:58
  So let's do that. Steal a possession, is what I
• 1:21:00
  say. All righty, I'm kind of with
• 1:21:05
  you. But on the opposite side, don't
• 1:21:06
  let them steal the possession. Protect the football at all
• 1:21:09
  costs. They are one of the best ball
• 1:21:11
  Hawking, forcing turnover teams in the country.
• 1:21:15
  I don't lie, back it up there, #5 in the country, they have
• 1:21:19
  taken the ball away 20 times this year, 20 times in 10 games.
• 1:21:25
  That means they're getting 2 turnovers every game.
• 1:21:28
  We we we give it up two times. That ain't going to be good at
• 1:21:31
  all. They have 14 picks and they have
• 1:21:34
  4-6 fumbles. We protect the ball and we play
• 1:21:38
  clean. I don't think their offense is
• 1:21:41
  good enough to continue to drive the ball.
• 1:21:43
  And I think we've got enough playmakers because we've got
• 1:21:46
  more than one where I think we can score some points.
• 1:21:49
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  We'll go reverse here. Brian, you start us off, all
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  right. I don't think that's the order.
• 1:22:46
  I think I had Sheldon leading off.
• 1:22:47
  Oh, Sheldon. We're we're starting with Vt.
• 1:22:54
  Yep, Yep. Tech game.
• 1:22:55
  What do you think? What's?
• 1:22:56
  Your Yeah, yeah, I've got, I've got the Hokies.
• 1:22:59
  I think this is a big Senior Day opportunity.
• 1:23:02
  I think a win against a good team like Into State would
• 1:23:04
  validate a lot of the work that Tech has put into their
• 1:23:06
  improvement this season. And I think they are just due
• 1:23:09
  for a win against a really solid opponent.
• 1:23:11
  So I've got Tech all. Right.
• 1:23:13
  Who's next? Brun, it's me, OK?
• 1:23:16
  It's me. Who do you got?
• 1:23:18
  I got the Hokies man. I think this is like like
• 1:23:22
  Sheldon said, this is a big opportunity to kind of prove
• 1:23:24
  yourself against a quality opponent.
• 1:23:26
  I feel like we've ratcheted up our play against.
• 1:23:30
  You know we've we've we've seen some of the bottom end of the
• 1:23:32
  ACC. We've seen like a couple of them
• 1:23:34
  kind of the middle of the pack ACC teams.
• 1:23:36
  This is kind of flirting with the with the top half there,
• 1:23:40
  Let's see how we do. But I think we can pull it off.
• 1:23:42
  I think it's going to be a big day for the defense shutting
• 1:23:46
  down that that horrible NC State offense.
• 1:23:48
  I think the offense on our side is going to do enough to pull
• 1:23:52
  out a victory there. I've got the Hokies on on this
• 1:23:55
  one. It's going to be tight there at
• 1:23:57
  the end, but it's going to be 2724 Hokies.
• 1:24:01
  All righty. Yeah.
• 1:24:01
  So you got me here next and I'm not far behind you, Brian.
• 1:24:07
  I do think the Hokies win this game and I think it's more of
• 1:24:10
  predicated on the NC State offense because I think we we
• 1:24:15
  see the Hokies and there's been one game this season where we
• 1:24:19
  struggled to move the ball. That was Louisville game.
• 1:24:22
  Every other game we have moved the ball, and even as good as
• 1:24:25
  the NC State defense is, I think we're going to pop them three or
• 1:24:28
  four times while we win this game in My prediction, 2716 is
• 1:24:32
  because I think eventually that defense is going to wear out.
• 1:24:36
  And being Hokies fan, we saw, we've seen that how many times
• 1:24:39
  in the past where offense can't do anything three and out or get
• 1:24:43
  a first down and then immediately go three and out
• 1:24:46
  right after and I think we win the game. 2716, it's not going
• 1:24:51
  to be just the 21 nothing and it's over in the first half sort
• 1:24:55
  of a slow grind and by the fourth quarter their defense is
• 1:24:58
  so gassed, especially the way they blitz.
• 1:25:02
  Like Robbie said, also protect drones because they're going to
• 1:25:05
  bring the pressure. You see this one playing out
• 1:25:08
  more like Wake. Yeah, you could say kind of like
• 1:25:13
  Wake. Yeah, kind of like Wake.
• 1:25:16
  Just with Wake, it was more we just kept in in engulfing them
• 1:25:20
  on offense, on defense, more and more and more where I think this
• 1:25:25
  is going to be a little vice versa.
• 1:25:28
  Well, it's up to me, huh? Man, y'all know how we are, man.
• 1:25:33
  We all ride together. Here at BCP.
• 1:25:35
  We got everybody. We picking the Hokies to win
• 1:25:38
  except me. I'm picking NC State.
• 1:25:40
  I got to fade the Hokies. I have to go back and look at my
• 1:25:44
  record. It's been very bad this year,
• 1:25:46
  but most of the time when I fade the Hokies, they win.
• 1:25:49
  So I'm saying I'm the reason that they winning.
• 1:25:52
  Every time I fade them they come out and prove me wrong.
• 1:25:55
  So bulletin board material, it's been fade tally all year the
• 1:26:00
  Hokies are playing. Tally Tally's fat ass face on
• 1:26:03
  the board saying we going to lose, let's go win.
• 1:26:08
  All righty, Tally going NC State.
• 1:26:11
  He ain't going back to prediction.
• 1:26:12
  He's just saying NC State go win.
• 1:26:14
  So we can. So we have some bulletin board
• 1:26:16
  material for the guys. Take.
• 1:26:19
  Get up there, get up close to the camera.
• 1:26:21
  Big smile so they can get your picture tomorrow, all right?
• 1:26:25
  Well, as always, we always have other big screeners as well
• 1:26:28
  because we watch all sorts of college football all weekend and
• 1:26:32
  Tally, you are leading us off this week.
• 1:26:34
  What is your big Screener of the week?
• 1:26:37
  I got Louisville and Miami. That is pretty much a pick, Em.
• 1:26:44
  I don't know why because I think Louisville's going to beat them.
• 1:26:47
  I know they're going to Miami to to play, but I got Louisville
• 1:26:51
  taking this game. All righty, Sheldon, what about
• 1:26:54
  you on this one? Yeah, I'm taking Louisville.
• 1:26:57
  I don't think Miami is as bad as people think they are.
• 1:27:00
  Although their quarterback Tyler Van Dyke had a weird quote on
• 1:27:03
  Twitter that kind of blew up and maybe got a little bit
• 1:27:05
  misinterpreted by their fan base.
• 1:27:06
  So there's not a the the scene is not great in Miami right now
• 1:27:09
  from, you know, behind the scenes perspective.
• 1:27:11
  So I'm. I'm going Louisville.
• 1:27:15
  All righty, Bryan. Yeah, I'm going Louisville here.
• 1:27:17
  I feel like, you know, I mean it's still early but the
• 1:27:20
  pitchforks are already starting to come out for crystal ball a
• 1:27:22
  little bit. I don't I I still think it's
• 1:27:25
  early. I think he needs a a couple more
• 1:27:26
  years to to fix that culture. He's getting the players.
• 1:27:30
  It's going to take some some more time to kind of turn that
• 1:27:33
  thing around this. So I I don't think they're quite
• 1:27:36
  there yet. I think Louisville takes this
• 1:27:37
  one. Yep, and I'm still trying to
• 1:27:40
  figure out why. It's a half point.
• 1:27:42
  I'm with y'all on Louisville. If you look at the injury report
• 1:27:45
  this week, the biggest loss is Henry Parrish.
• 1:27:48
  One of the kind of the 1-2 back combos down in Miami probably
• 1:27:51
  will not play. For this game, he got hurt in
• 1:27:54
  the Florida State game and to me that's a big loss, especially
• 1:27:59
  against Louisville and especially against the way they
• 1:28:02
  pass. And we saw how that works
• 1:28:04
  straight up. So yeah, across the board, give
• 1:28:06
  us the red, even though Louisville is not ground Rd.
• 1:28:12
  Listen, I think there's a part of us.
• 1:28:14
  I think the reason probably Tally chose this game was
• 1:28:16
  because if Louisville does get upset, we're back in play.
• 1:28:22
  We're back in play. We We still need UNC to beat
• 1:28:24
  Clemson and win out, but we're back in play.
• 1:28:28
  Back in play. All righty.
• 1:28:30
  I am the next one here and I'm going way out West for a 730
• 1:28:34
  game out in Corvallis. A scary place to play for any
• 1:28:38
  top ranked team and that's what's going to be the
• 1:28:40
  Washington Huskies versus the Oregon State Beavers.
• 1:28:44
  And Oregon State is getting the 2 1/2 line at home and.
• 1:28:50
  And I know Oregon State's having a great season.
• 1:28:52
  They're eight and two. DJ is resurrected.
• 1:28:55
  Clearly DJ wasn't a problem in Death Valley.
• 1:29:00
  But in this case, I think what's helping Washington, because I am
• 1:29:04
  picking Washington, Give me the points for the number five team
• 1:29:07
  in the country. The reason I'm picking them is
• 1:29:10
  that was a scare from Utah last week.
• 1:29:13
  Good teams get scared. Usually the next week against a
• 1:29:16
  team who's not quite as good as them, they put it on them.
• 1:29:18
  That's why I'm going with the the Huskies.
• 1:29:21
  What you got, Tally? Yeah, I'm going to go Huskies as
• 1:29:24
  well because anytime I go against them, they come out and
• 1:29:27
  win. So they've had a lot of close
• 1:29:30
  games, but they keep winning there.
• 1:29:32
  You go, Shelton. Yes, I'm going Huskies.
• 1:29:40
  I just. I like their offense, I like
• 1:29:42
  Michael Pennix, and I don't think Oregon State has the the,
• 1:29:46
  the firepower to keep up all. Right Brown brother.
• 1:29:50
  Yeah, I'm riding with the the Husky as well.
• 1:29:52
  I think Phoenix is going to take care of business and it's it's
• 1:29:57
  going to be a tight one but I think they pull it out.
• 1:30:00
  Got them winning out right here all.
• 1:30:02
  Right. Tight one for big peanuts.
• 1:30:06
  You know you hate when that happens, right?
• 1:30:08
  Or you love when that happens. I don't know.
• 1:30:09
  Depending. On what's yours for this week.
• 1:30:15
  All right. I had to go with the the battle
• 1:30:17
  of Kansas. Here we got K State, Kansas.
• 1:30:22
  You know what that line is 8. And to me that's just that's a
• 1:30:27
  little too much for me. So I'm taking Kansas here.
• 1:30:30
  I think it's. I think Kansas State's going to
• 1:30:32
  win the game, but I think it's going to be more like a six or
• 1:30:36
  seven point win. I think the eight is just a
• 1:30:38
  little too much for my liking. Yeah, and I'm with you, the
• 1:30:42
  Sunflower Showdown there at Kansas State.
• 1:30:48
  I'm taking Kansas as well. I think that's too much.
• 1:30:50
  I think Lance Leopold's too good of a coach.
• 1:30:52
  I think it's too big of a rivalry.
• 1:30:55
  So I think again, I I lean Kansas State.
• 1:30:59
  But it's one of those anytime you feel sometimes it's just
• 1:31:03
  certain coaches, right? You don't give that coach that
• 1:31:06
  many points. That man knows how to coach and
• 1:31:08
  motivate. I think Kansas hangs in there,
• 1:31:12
  but I do think Kansas State eventually does win the game
• 1:31:19
  tally. Man, I got to go K State, man.
• 1:31:24
  Leopold's probably about to get out of there.
• 1:31:26
  Hell, I know somebody. All these jobs coming up and
• 1:31:28
  somebody's going to try to come take him.
• 1:31:30
  He might be looking. He might be looking.
• 1:31:33
  To to somewhere. I don't know.
• 1:31:34
  SEC. Anyway, he might be looking for
• 1:31:36
  some more money. K state.
• 1:31:38
  I got them winning this one all right.
• 1:31:43
  Yeah, I'm taking K State. I just.
• 1:31:45
  I just don't like the way Kansas has been playing the past few
• 1:31:47
  weeks. And by contrast, Kansas State
• 1:31:50
  has been kicking the butt. They just ran Baylor out of town
• 1:31:52
  last week, so I think the Cats are hot.
• 1:31:55
  All right, there we go. Just going to throw some other
• 1:31:57
  ones up here from some of the folks listening out there
• 1:32:00
  tonight. That's on the Miami game.
• 1:32:02
  Got a couple on there since Tally brought it up.
• 1:32:06
  Be sure that everyone on on social media, on Twitter, on
• 1:32:09
  Facebook, do not share coaches going elsewhere stories without
• 1:32:16
  checking the veracity of the information first.
• 1:32:20
  There's a bunch of folks that already got bit on two or three.
• 1:32:23
  Different scenarios. They did shout out the drift.
• 1:32:29
  All righty, Sheldon. Where are you going this week
• 1:32:32
  for your big Screener, Sir? I'm going UNC Clemson.
• 1:32:36
  I think it's gonna be a really good game to me.
• 1:32:38
  People have overreacted to Clemson this year.
• 1:32:41
  I think they're. I still think they're a good
• 1:32:42
  team despite their win loss record.
• 1:32:45
  I think that UNC has a better quarterback, even though Clemson
• 1:32:49
  has a better overall team. I've got Clemson to win, but UNC
• 1:32:54
  will cover. Like Clemson wins UN CS cover.
• 1:32:58
  Brian, what are you doing with this one in Death Valley on
• 1:33:00
  Saturday? I'm going the exact same way
• 1:33:04
  that Shelton is going there. I've got Clemson winning, but
• 1:33:07
  I've got UNC covering. That's coming down to the wire.
• 1:33:11
  Probably about a three or four point win there for the Tigers.
• 1:33:15
  All righty. And I am next on this one.
• 1:33:19
  I don't know who's going to win, but I like, I like you, said
• 1:33:23
  Shelton a little earlier. Drake May's the better
• 1:33:24
  quarterback, even though the Clemson's the better overall
• 1:33:27
  team. Give me Carolina.
• 1:33:30
  I'll take the six and a half and probably a very entertaining
• 1:33:34
  game tally, tally. Yeah, I got to go Clemson on
• 1:33:37
  this one, man. You know Devo people like, I
• 1:33:41
  mean what's she up to start it out with Clemson?
• 1:33:42
  They they they they they're rebuilding.
• 1:33:44
  But Devo is a good coach, man. He's going to put up that
• 1:33:47
  material about everybody talking about how sorry they is and I
• 1:33:49
  think that he knows UNC is a a pretty good team.
• 1:33:53
  So I think he's going to go and pull out all the stops and try
• 1:33:55
  to get a big win here. All righty.
• 1:33:59
  There we go, UNC, for our hopes. All right, all right.
• 1:34:03
  Some people like liking Clemson in this one.
• 1:34:06
  All right, there is one more, and I think we're going to
• 1:34:09
  probably start as this is the official beginning.
• 1:34:13
  Or the eve of eight week, we're going to be picking the UVA Duke
• 1:34:18
  game with Duke laying 3 1/2 points.
• 1:34:24
  Come back next week, it'll be a lot more vitriol.
• 1:34:27
  But Brian, what you got on this one?
• 1:34:30
  I got Duke winning because, you know, fuck UVA.
• 1:34:37
  I got Duke winning. I got Duke covering.
• 1:34:40
  I don't know why this line is 3 1/2.
• 1:34:43
  If Riley Leonard's playing, that's great.
• 1:34:45
  I've seen Duke's defense. It's going to be able to take
• 1:34:49
  UVA down enough, and if you really want to know why, they're
• 1:34:52
  going to win. UVA One of the worst rushing
• 1:34:54
  defenses in the country, Duke goes for about 195 to 200 on the
• 1:34:59
  ground tally. Yeah, I got to go.
• 1:35:02
  Duke, man. I mean, UVA is playing pretty
• 1:35:06
  decent ball with everybody. They play, they're playing
• 1:35:08
  everybody close. But when it comes down to it,
• 1:35:11
  they just can't pull out a win in most of the game.
• 1:35:13
  So when you look at a line like 3 1/2, I just think Duke's going
• 1:35:17
  to beat them by a touchdown. All right, Shelton.
• 1:35:23
  Well, I finally got a a game right involving UVA.
• 1:35:25
  I've had an insufferable time picking them against the spread
• 1:35:28
  this year. I I got it right last week and I
• 1:35:31
  will take Duke this week. I think Duke is a good team.
• 1:35:35
  I think UVA, they they've had some moments, but I think
• 1:35:37
  they're going to fall back to Earth.
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