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- 0:00It it is the worldwide sports radio network.
- 0:07Dolphins trade Jalen Ramsey and Jonnu Smith to the Steelers, the
- 0:12Pistons guard Malik Beasley being investigated for gambling
- 0:16and LeBron James opts into his player option with the Lakers.
- 0:20And we have a lot more to get into as we were working on
- 0:24Preston Carries committing commitment to going to Georgia.
- 0:29So we'll get into a lot of that when we come back for a new show
- 0:33of job in the mouth. Do you believe in that?
- 0:35You're going to give him a significant, you're going to
- 0:38have a ton of money to spend. Why not pulling in one of the
- 0:41top three offensive players in the league?
- 0:51We're going to be looking at Aaron Judge and saying that he
- 0:53can't win the big game, Michael Jordan said.
- 0:56I played 82 games. You don't see the fun doing
- 0:59that. A game where you got to go for
- 1:02four. I told you, Giant fans, Saquon
- 1:04Barkley at this point. Let's do it.
- 2:04You're listening to Jabba and the mouth.
- 2:08Mouth. Welcome, welcome, Welcome back
- 2:13ladies and gentlemen to a new show of Jabba and the Mouth.
- 2:19It's been crazy. It's been humid, it's been
- 2:22disgusting and sticky out here in Long Island, New York.
- 2:26You know who I am. My name is Harold Marks, my Co
- 2:28host Jabba Chamberlain and the speedster Speedy PD Go to our
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- 2:56It has been sticky. I, I will say this guys and I, I
- 3:00wanted to, to figure out what's going on in the world.
- 3:03Jabba, what's going on? What is going on over there in
- 3:05Nebraska? Is it hot, Is it cold?
- 3:08Is it humid? Is it rainy?
- 3:09Hey, it could be snowing in Nebraska.
- 3:11I've never been there. No, we've got a humidity is, is
- 3:16at its peak point right now, usually around the 4th of July.
- 3:20You usually get there actually not too bad today, but we've
- 3:24been, we've been 90s about 90% humidity.
- 3:27So we've, we've been sticky, that's for sure.
- 3:30It's been sticky here in Long Island, New York.
- 3:32I can't stand this weather and yesterday and I we will get into
- 3:36yesterday and the commitment of Preston Carey, which by the way,
- 3:41it was fantastic. It was a great gathering for all
- 3:43the fans out there. That's never been to a
- 3:46commitment And and it it's crazy because how many people actually
- 3:50show up to event like this. And it was superbly put together
- 3:55by Kelly and obviously her entourage of, of people.
- 3:59Liz, it was just fantastic. It was very well put together.
- 4:03The video that was put up by Jackie Robertson was sensational
- 4:07and Ben Carey and even Preston, it was really sensational.
- 4:10Congratulations to Preston and we will let every fan know if
- 4:14you haven't checked out all of the social media and on YouTube
- 4:19or on any of the social medias that were posting up where
- 4:22Preston is going. Well, we will give you the
- 4:24information in just a few moments.
- 4:25But it was very well put together.
- 4:28It was at the castle in Huntington, NY.
- 4:31I, I don't, I look at that place because I've been to that place
- 4:34many, many times. I've DJ, I've hosted events,
- 4:37golf tournaments with CC Sabathia, AJ Burnett, Plaxico
- 4:42Bores. So many great athletes have gone
- 4:44and played golf over there and they are sensationally built
- 4:49when it comes to the, the guest and, and, and the great venue
- 4:52that they have over there. So I, I loved it over there and
- 4:55it was to me, what I noticed about that place is when you go
- 5:00in and you, you, you get to the castle, you got to go through
- 5:04these bushes and it, it, it's just amazing how it's just very
- 5:08well built and you just like kind of like squeak right
- 5:11through. So it was, it was a sensational,
- 5:14sensational event. And I want to give a shout out
- 5:17to Ben Carey because Ben is a guy that is 100% for his son.
- 5:22And, and a lot of these kids, a lot of their parents, you know,
- 5:25they're obviously they love their kids and they want their
- 5:28kids to succeed. But there are parents out there
- 5:30worried about how much money their kids going to get, how
- 5:33much money they're going to get out of the deals or where
- 5:35they're going to go when it comes to the colleges that they
- 5:38choose. Ben is not like that.
- 5:40He really isn't. He wanted to make sure that his
- 5:42son picked the right school and put himself, his son in the
- 5:45right position to succeed. And by the way, if nobody knows,
- 5:49I'm going to give you the announcement.
- 5:52Yes, Preston Carey decided out of Rutgers Florida, which is the
- 5:57Gators. If you want to know what it is,
- 5:59whatever Florida team that is, Auburn and Georgia, the Georgia
- 6:03Bulldogs, he chose to go to Georgia.
- 6:06And congratulations to Preston. It was great.
- 6:09It really was a sensational and I want to give a shout out to
- 6:12Kelly and Liz. These two ladies worked really,
- 6:15really hard putting this together and I was just happy to
- 6:18be a part of it and be be the host of the events.
- 6:21And that has a lot to do with obviously been asking me and
- 6:25putting me in the position to host the event and and announce,
- 6:30you know, the introductions on where Preston was going.
- 6:34And we had a lot of people. Varsity, varsity high school was
- 6:38there. They were doing their broadcast.
- 6:39All right, it's varsity. Speedy.
- 6:40What was MSG varsity? MSG varsity was there.
- 6:43They were a bunch of people. Newsday was there, Channel 12
- 6:46news was there. Peter Schwartz was there.
- 6:48Everybody, you name it, every media person in the world, when
- 6:53it comes to the big media conglomerates, I'm, I'm trying
- 6:57to choke on my words. All the big media conglomerates
- 7:00were there yesterday and I've been very, very tired.
- 7:03I know a lot of people, if you've watched this show, I got
- 7:06a lot of energy. I'm going to put all the energy
- 7:08into the show. But I didn't get home till late
- 7:10last night. I didn't go to bed till 2:00 in
- 7:12the morning. I had work this morning and
- 7:14look, I'm here and I'm taking care of other things that I'm
- 7:16going, going through medical problems and all that other
- 7:20stuff. I don't want to get into it on
- 7:21the show, but it was a sensational, sensational event
- 7:26and I want to give a shout out to the Carey family and
- 7:28congratulations to Preston Carey for announcing where he was
- 7:33going and, and doing it in front of his friends, his family and
- 7:36the media. It's not easy doing it for an 18
- 7:38year old kid and, and I don't know if anybody's checked out.
- 7:41You don't know who Preston Carey is.
- 7:43He's 6 foot 5-6 foot six, 300 lbs of brute strength and
- 7:47muscle. I, I did call him the Beast.
- 7:50I don't know what his nickname is.
- 7:51I don't know what people call him, but it's a sensational,
- 7:54sensational specimen. He is.
- 7:56It's a sensational specimen. So congratulations to the the
- 7:59Carey family. Speedy, what he picked, he
- 8:01picked a good school, though, the best, the best.
- 8:04So he's he he's he can go to American whiskey anytime because
- 8:07we are a Georgia bar. There you go.
- 8:09There you go. I, I, I remember him saying
- 8:12that. So I have to talk to Ben.
- 8:15Maybe we do an event and when obviously during the season
- 8:19we'll do something at at American Whiskey for the Georgia
- 8:23Bulldogs and, and promote Preston and, and do do our show
- 8:27live at American Whiskey for all the Georgia Bulldogs fans.
- 8:30I think they would really enjoy it And and some of the Long
- 8:32Islanders wanted to go and check out the game at one of those
- 8:35bars where you get a chance to watch just the Georgia Bulldogs
- 8:40and their games. You can go to American Whiskey
- 8:41in Manhattan, NY and Job is one of the owners of the of the
- 8:46facility. So it'll be fun.
- 8:47And I think that would be a great idea doing a live show for
- 8:51the Georgia Bulldogs, who is going to be one of the top three
- 8:53favorites of winning the national championship.
- 8:55So I'm not going to say I don't know how much time Preston's
- 8:59going to have as a freshman this coming season, but the fact that
- 9:02he is going to be on the Georgia Bulldogs, give him two more
- 9:05years. This kid could be a super
- 9:07superstar for the not only as a professional NFL player, but a
- 9:12college NCAA champion, possibly 2 before he even gets on the
- 9:17field and plays a significant amount of minutes.
- 9:19So very happy to be there for Preston.
- 9:21He is a great kid and he has a great calm personality.
- 9:25That's what you want to see with these athletes.
- 9:27Some of these, some of these athletes, we've got them on the
- 9:29show, they're stuck up. Their personality suck.
- 9:32Preston was not like that. He was so eager to to make that
- 9:36announcement in front of his friends and his family.
- 9:38And then not only that, the way he handled it, it's not easy
- 9:42handling something like that as an 18 year old.
- 9:44And the way he handled it was sensational.
- 9:46So congratulations to the Carey family.
- 9:48Preston Carey. I said that about six or seven
- 9:51times and I'm going to say it once again, congratulations and
- 9:54very well done. It was very well put together.
- 9:57Congratulations to Kelly and Liz putting on put on putting a
- 10:00great obviously leveled show, I would say, committee over there
- 10:06at the Castle. So congratulations to all the
- 10:09family and friends that joined us over there at the Castle
- 10:12yesterday afternoon and night. Oh man.
- 10:16Anyways, we have a great show lined up for you at 9:00.
- 10:19We'll be talking to former Orioles, Blue Jays and Yankees
- 10:22Bitcher Josh Towers. He's been on the show.
- 10:24I'm sure Jabba has a ton of stories and and Jabba hasn't
- 10:28been on the show when Josh has been on.
- 10:29So this this is the first time Jabba and Josh are going to be
- 10:33together and and kind of interact with each other since
- 10:36obviously playing against one another over there when he
- 10:39played for the Orioles and Jabba was with the Yankees.
- 10:41So it'll be fun to hear what Josh's thoughts were when he
- 10:44first got the chance to see Jabba on the mountain.
- 10:47And I'm sure Jabba I played I played with amid the Yankees
- 10:49too. That's true.
- 10:50I forgot about that. Yes, you did.
- 10:51So it'll be fun to get both of these guys on at the same time
- 10:55and kind of see their connection as a professional athletes and
- 11:00and MLBMLB baseball player. So it'll be fun here.
- 11:03Rappaport reports that the Dolphins have traded for well
- 11:08cheated Jalen Ramsey and Jonnu Smith for a seventh round pick
- 11:12to the Steelers. The Dolphins reunite with Mika
- 11:17Fitzpatrick and also get a fifth round pick back in the deal.
- 11:21The Steelers will take on a 26.6 million of the last of last year
- 11:27of the last year of Ramsey's deal while the Dolphins will
- 11:30take on 1.5 million of the deal. Adam Schefner reports that this
- 11:34deal is also added a one year $12 million extension with Jonnu
- 11:39Smith for his deal. Mika Fitzpatrick's contract has
- 11:43two years remaining on it with a cap hit of 15.5 million this
- 11:48year and 17.6 million next year. Both players have been Pro
- 11:54Bowlers in four out of the of the last five seasons.
- 11:57After the trade, the Steelers have $21.8 million of cap space,
- 12:03tenth lowest in the NFL, while the Dolphins have just 13.7
- 12:08million, fifth lowest in the NFL.
- 12:11Well, there's a lot to get into this trade and I think it was
- 12:14very evenly traded. I I do believe Minka Fitzpatrick
- 12:17is the best player in this trade.
- 12:20Now, Jonnu Smith had a great season last year with the
- 12:23Dolphins. We'll see what he does over
- 12:24there with Aaron, Aaron Rodgers. We'll see what Aaron Rodgers
- 12:28shows up this year. Is he the team player, Aaron
- 12:30Rodgers or he's a me player, Aaron Rodgers?
- 12:33Because when he's a me player, Aaron Rodgers, he's definitely
- 12:36not the same player. What I do see with this trade
- 12:40and the reason why I think it's evenly matched, I think the
- 12:42problem last year for the Pittsburgh Steelers was the
- 12:45corner positions. They have Porter, who is one of
- 12:49the young, young, some heroes over there with the Pittsburgh
- 12:52Steelers, but they're secondary, especially on the other side of
- 12:56the field, was not too good. Now, Mika Fitzpatrick's been one
- 12:59of the better safeties. He's in the league since he's
- 13:01moved from the cornerback position to the safety position.
- 13:04He has not moved back to the corner position.
- 13:07And the one weakness the the well, he they have a bunch of
- 13:10weaknesses on the defensive side of the ball.
- 13:12But for the Miami Dolphins, it's one of their biggest weaknesses
- 13:16defensively for the last couple of years.
- 13:18As at the free safety position. Now you have Mika.
- 13:21Mika can move inside, he can move outside.
- 13:23He can obviously defend multiple, multiple players.
- 13:27You can put them at the corner position if need be.
- 13:30I think obviously Mika Fitzpatrick is a perfect fit for
- 13:34a Dolphins organization that's been craving for a superstar
- 13:37player. Now, Mika Fitzpatrick is from
- 13:39the New Jersey area and a guy that is always wanted to go play
- 13:43in Florida. This is a kid that has a
- 13:45tremendous amount of ability play for the Alabama Crimson
- 13:48Tide. He is a Nick Saban guy.
- 13:51We all know what he is as a defensive player, but he's just
- 13:55as good on the field as he is off the field.
- 13:58He is a team leader. It's something, and I don't
- 14:01think Jalen Ramsey is. He is not a team leader.
- 14:03He's a me player. We've seen him over the years.
- 14:06He came from the Jacksonville Jaguars, then he went to the
- 14:08Rams. He did win a championship with
- 14:09the Rams. And then over the last couple of
- 14:12years he's been floating around in the NFL, couldn't find a
- 14:15home. And everywhere he goes, there's
- 14:17a problem. On the football field.
- 14:19Everywhere he goes there's a problem.
- 14:21You know, when he's on in a magazine or he's in a newspaper,
- 14:24he has been a Jackass. Now him going to Pittsburgh,
- 14:28he's going to have to learn how to keep his mouth shut.
- 14:30Now, Mike Tomlin has been a player's coach and we've seen
- 14:34the guys that Mike Tomlin has coached over the years, One of
- 14:36them, Brown, he's been in trouble with the law numerous
- 14:39amount of times. Le'veon Bell, another one who's
- 14:42done some disgusting things off the field, which we've heard
- 14:46under Mike Tomlin. There has been guys over the
- 14:49years when we've heard from the Pittsburgh Steelers.
- 14:51And I think if there's anybody I can handle, Aaron Rodgers, it's
- 14:54Mike Tomlin. But why?
- 14:55Because Mike Tommen let's everybody do what they want to
- 14:58do on the football field as long as they win.
- 15:01But the problem with the Pittsburgh Steelers over the
- 15:03last couple of years, they can't get over the hump.
- 15:05They can't get out of the first round.
- 15:07This is 8 years, right? Am I mistaken?
- 15:098 years in a row where they've gone into the playoffs and get
- 15:13and been eliminated in the first round.
- 15:15The last time they ever won in the second round or later in the
- 15:17playoffs, they won. They beat the Chiefs by getting
- 15:196 field goals. Well, who cares about that?
- 15:22The fact is right now, Mika Fitzpatrick is the name in this
- 15:25train because if Miami wants to challenge Buffalo in this
- 15:30division, it's not going to be the New York Jets.
- 15:32I know Jet fans want to believe that.
- 15:34I am a Jet fan. I'm not going to sit here and
- 15:36try to beat around the Bush. Now, Justin Fields has an
- 15:38opportunity this year to show people why he should be a
- 15:42starter in the NFL. But I still think they're a
- 15:44young team. You have a new coach.
- 15:46Aaron Glenn's going to be sensational coach in the AFC
- 15:48East. He's played in the AFC East.
- 15:50He was drafted by the New York Jets.
- 15:52So I believe he's going to be a good coach, but it's going to
- 15:54take a little while for him to implicate his offense and his
- 15:56defense to this team. I really believe Miami is the
- 16:00only team that could challenge the Buffalo Bills for this
- 16:04division. Now, to attack a Viola has to
- 16:06stay healthy. And you can't trust that if he
- 16:09goes down, you're going to trust the guy that used to be the
- 16:12starting quarterback and draft pick by the New York Jets.
- 16:15And you know what I'm talking about, Speedy.
- 16:17Mr. Zach Wilson. Zach Wilson, Mr. Mama Lover.
- 16:20So we all know that we don't want to see Zach Wilson play.
- 16:23Now obviously there coach is on a hockey seat and I do believe
- 16:27he's going to be on a hot seat this year.
- 16:29McDaniels is is a guy that obviously he's young, he's
- 16:33Mighty Mouse. That's what they call him in
- 16:34Miami. Love to watch him go running off
- 16:36off the field, you know, during halves.
- 16:39I love his speeches. I love when he steps on a
- 16:41stepping stool and he he shows his personality on a mic.
- 16:44The problem right now is Miami needs to win.
- 16:47Their ownership wants to see wins.
- 16:48They want to see playoff wins. They have not done that over the
- 16:51last couple of years with Mike McDaniel there.
- 16:53Now if Mike McDaniel figures about what the defense is, which
- 16:58has been a big problem for the team for the last two seasons,
- 17:00how many defensive coordinators have they had in the last four
- 17:03years? It's been horrible for the
- 17:05Dolphins. Their offense will find a way.
- 17:07They have the ability with obviously Hill there and and and
- 17:11the weapons that they have over there as far as far as their
- 17:14running game is going to be even better than it was last year.
- 17:16They're going to be fast-paced and they're going to be one of
- 17:18the better offenses in the league.
- 17:20The defensive side of the ball, you need to add that secondary
- 17:22help. Mika Fitzpatrick could be play
- 17:24multiple positions and he is the kind of guy that you you give
- 17:27him a scheme, you tell him what you want him to do, he's going
- 17:30to go out there and he's going to lead the troops.
- 17:32I don't think Jalen Ramsey's that type of player.
- 17:33Now, John U Smith was never going to be resigned by the
- 17:38Miami Dolphins. I believe that Miami was going
- 17:41to do whatever they can to put him in a trade so they can get a
- 17:44specific player of their of their pickings.
- 17:46I believe Mika Fitzpatrick was a player that the Dolphins have
- 17:50been looking at for the last two seasons.
- 17:51They couldn't get him at the trade deadline last year and
- 17:54Mika Fitzpatrick, I believe out of Pittsburgh, he did get his
- 17:57extension. What was it 2 1/2 years ago?
- 17:59I, I do believe that Mika did not like it in the Pittsburgh.
- 18:03He really wasn't the cornerstone of that defense ever since they
- 18:06brought Porter back, especially at young Porter, Porter junior
- 18:09who has taken over as their lead secondary guy.
- 18:12So I, I do believe Jalen Ramsey is a guy that wants to try to
- 18:16win another Super Bowl. The one thing I could say about
- 18:18Pittsburgh that I could say that they're going to be different
- 18:22this year is the way they're going to pace the game
- 18:24offensively to the defense, defensive side of the ball.
- 18:26Their defense is still going to be their number one priority.
- 18:29Their defense is still going to be elite no matter if Mika
- 18:31Fitzpatrick's there or Jalen Ramsey's there.
- 18:34I, I the problem is, is what Aaron Rodgers is going to show
- 18:38up. Like I just said, that is the
- 18:39question. And what where's the running
- 18:42game coming from? The Harris is not there anymore.
- 18:44Now they're going to they drafted a running back in the
- 18:47later rounds this past year in the draft.
- 18:50They also have Jalen Warren. Who did they extend them in the
- 18:54offseason? They did extend them.
- 18:55What was it 2 years, a two year deal?
- 18:58Jalen Warren when he does play, he plays a majority, the
- 19:01majority of the 1st to 3rd downs.
- 19:04I I think Harris was used not right for the Pittsburgh
- 19:07Steelers and that's why the Pittsburgh Steelers decided to
- 19:10part ways in the offseason with him.
- 19:11I do believe Warren is going to be used a lot.
- 19:13Warren fought injury all season last year and the year before
- 19:17that. If the Pittsburgh Steelers plan
- 19:20to make the playoffs and make a run this year, they're going to
- 19:22have to have a healthy Aaron Rodgers and a guy that's going
- 19:25to have to step back and be more of a team player, not all me
- 19:30player. And and again, going back to
- 19:31that, I don't know if you're going to expect that by Aaron
- 19:34Rodgers. Donu Smith is a perfect fit for
- 19:36the Pittsburgh Steelers because now you I what I believe
- 19:39Pittsburgh is going to do this year is they're going to use a
- 19:42dual threat tight end offense. That's what they're going to do.
- 19:46A lot of teams are doing it now in the NFL.
- 19:48We've heard Aaron Glenn wants to do that with the New York Jets.
- 19:51We all know that the the teams like the New England Patriots
- 19:55were teams that really brought this and implicated this to the
- 19:58the NFL with Bill Belichick and O'Brien.
- 20:01I expect a lot of teams in the NFL to do that this year.
- 20:04And I think Johnny Smith is a dangerous factor if he can play
- 20:08like he did when Miami. Now remember, Pittsburgh don't
- 20:11have the weapons. Miami does not.
- 20:13They don't have Waddle, they don't have Hill, they don't have
- 20:15the speed that Miami has. But what they do have is they
- 20:20have hopefully a competent coach that is going to let his players
- 20:25make the decision on the field. Tomlin has.
- 20:28It's worked for Tomlin over the years.
- 20:30If you look at Tomlin's record, he has the winningest record in
- 20:33the last 12 years as a head coach.
- 20:35The problem is he's has the losing his record in the last
- 20:39eight years in the playoffs. Yeah, and you're and you
- 20:41mentioned something with the Steelers offense like not having
- 20:43a lot too. And that was the thing that was
- 20:44most bizarre to me about the about the straight out what now
- 20:47you talked about it a few weeks ago.
- 20:48Go on your deuce of the day. I think it was when Jonnu Smith
- 20:51was initially in interest with the Steelers.
- 20:53Now they have another tight ending, Pat Fryer move as a
- 20:55solid tight ending. They signed him to a decent
- 20:57contract. But you're right, they're
- 20:58probably going to have to keep him and use an ace tight end
- 21:01formation, 12 formation because they did not address the second
- 21:04receiver position after they traded George Pickens.
- 21:06A lot of people thought they were going to go after a veteran
- 21:07guy or even draft a guy. They they we knew Pickens wanted
- 21:11out already. So they could have done that.
- 21:13They did not go after that. They're trusting Roman Wilson as
- 21:15they drafted last year. And like you said, it could be a
- 21:18mistake when a lot of these guys are just role players.
- 21:19Jalen Warren is a good running back, but again, is he going to
- 21:23be able to handle that level of volume with Caleb Johnson, a
- 21:26rookie, as your other option? That's the thing that doesn't
- 21:28make sense of this trade. Who's their number 2 too?
- 21:30Remember, they traded George Pickens to the Cowboys.
- 21:33Yes. So right now.
- 21:33Who's their number 2? It's Roman Wilson, and then they
- 21:35have DK Metcalf. DK Metcalf is their one target.
- 21:38And can you trust him to be a consistent #1?
- 21:40I don't. Really well health, yeah.
- 21:42The whole thing with DK Metcalf is he's he's he's a top notch
- 21:46player, There's no question. But he plays his pure
- 21:49adrenaline. That's what he how he plays.
- 21:51He plays power football. And whenever you see a wide
- 21:54receiver play power football like him, DK Metcalf is, is a
- 21:58wide receiver in a tight end body.
- 21:59That's what he is. He's got the speed like a wide
- 22:02receiver, but he's as big as a tight end.
- 22:04And that was the problem when he came out of the draft.
- 22:07He was a top end draft pick. Remember, it was his combine
- 22:10that moved him up in the draft, of course, because he was, it
- 22:13was all his combine. It was his.
- 22:16It was his running. It was his, the way he he ran
- 22:18his 40 and it was the way he was benching.
- 22:20I mean, he was bench pressed for, for a guy his size as a
- 22:23wide receiver, I think he benched 225 times, like 28 times
- 22:27or 27 times, which is for a wide receiver is ridiculous.
- 22:30That's something that you see from a defensive lineman.
- 22:33So DK Metcalf is, is brutally strong.
- 22:35The problem with him is when you're that fast and you're that
- 22:38strong and you're, you're lugging up all that muscle,
- 22:41you're, you're going to have problems on a football field and
- 22:43you're playing well, obviously in Pittsburgh.
- 22:45I think this is perfect for DK Metcalf because one of the one
- 22:49of the places, one of the only two places in the NFL that still
- 22:52has grass, it's Pittsburgh and Chicago.
- 22:55So I usually when you play grass, we've heard it from
- 22:58players that have been on the show, you have a better chance
- 23:00of lasting a season and not having knee injuries, Achilles
- 23:03injuries or even hip injuries or even your quad injuries.
- 23:06As we've seen guys like, you know, guys that have played for
- 23:10the New York Giants over the years, Saquon Barkley being one
- 23:12of them that had problems with his quads and, and, and
- 23:15different injuries over the last couple of years playing on on
- 23:18turf. I Pittsburgh, it's a place.
- 23:21Now here's the problem with Pittsburgh.
- 23:23When it gets cold, brutally cold and it's raining over there,
- 23:26your, your cleats stick to the ground.
- 23:27We've heard players that have played in Pittsburgh have
- 23:30problems. Even kickers that we've had on
- 23:31this show have complained about the ground over there in
- 23:34Pittsburgh. So DK Metcalf has played now
- 23:37he's played in Seattle on turf and, and in the rain, but he's
- 23:41not played it, you know, 8 * 8 * a year, eight games a year on,
- 23:46you know, on grass where it, it's definitely harder to play
- 23:49on when it's raining. Yeah, and you're talking about
- 23:51the Steelers like late in the season too.
- 23:53They their two best seasons recently have been 2020 when
- 23:56they started undefeated. They were the last undefeated
- 23:57team left and then they collapsed at the end of the
- 23:59year. And then last year, too, they
- 24:00were eight and three or something.
- 24:01And then when a game when Russell Wilson really struggled
- 24:04the last month of the season, that's where all these drama
- 24:06started with George Pickens. And obviously they ended up
- 24:08moving him eventually. And DK Metcalf, you're like you
- 24:10said, he's a freak athlete, but again, he's a very inconsistent
- 24:14game to game type wide receiver too.
- 24:16So can you trust that as a number one option?
- 24:17That's the reason I don't love this trade for the Steelers.
- 24:19Like I think that Mike Tomlin and that defense can try to make
- 24:22things work. I think their biggest issue over
- 24:23the years has been their run defense.
- 24:25And I think they didn't really address that enough in this type
- 24:28of deal. If they were to trade Minka
- 24:29Fitzpatrick, there's probably a higher end offensive player I
- 24:31think they could have gotten. Now from the Miami standpoint,
- 24:34Minka Fitzpatrick definitely does help.
- 24:36They lost Javon Holland. He went to the Giants and like
- 24:39you said, he could play slack, he can play safety at a very
- 24:41high level and he. Hasn't played corner in a while,
- 24:44that's it's been a couple of years.
- 24:45That's the only thing that concerns me and then the other
- 24:47thing that concerns me on the Miami and is they're going to
- 24:49trust all these pass rushers to come back and be healthy.
- 24:52Chop Robinson a nice rookie year, which does help, but they
- 24:55still need a lot of beef on the inside.
- 24:57It's crazy how a corner jumps to safety and is still a pro ball
- 25:00play. Not many, not many corners over
- 25:03the years that have moved to safety has been as dominant as
- 25:06Mika Fitzpatrick has been over the last couple of years.
- 25:09One of them and I, we, we talk about it, that has been as good
- 25:13as anybody we've seen over the years as Charles Woodson.
- 25:16Charles Woodson, if you remember when he came into the league, he
- 25:18was a corner. When he obviously finished his
- 25:21career, he went from corner to safety and he was a pro ball
- 25:24player. As a matter of fact, if I'm not
- 25:25mistaken, I don't know if this is true.
- 25:27Didn't Charles Woodson win Defensive Player of the Year as
- 25:29a safety? Or was it a corner?
- 25:31I think. He won it as a corner.
- 25:33He was an all pro at both positions.
- 25:34Yeah, so the only person I can remember that move from corner,
- 25:38the safety and as Dominic, as Mika Fitzpatrick has been over
- 25:42the last couple of years is Charles Woodson.
- 25:45It's not very easy to jump from one position to the other when
- 25:48you're you're defending the best and the most talented offensive
- 25:51player on another team. And then moving inside where
- 25:53you're, you're playing free or you're playing where you're, you
- 25:56have to stop those, those tight ends, these fast tight ends like
- 25:59the Gronkowski's, the Travis Kelsey's.
- 26:01That's not easy to do. And that's something Mika
- 26:04Fitzpatrick's done so well all season over the last three years
- 26:08and done it at a high level. Remember, Pittsburgh defense was
- 26:12a top 2 defense for the last, well, top three defense for the
- 26:16last three years. Why do you think it's been a top
- 26:18three defense for the last three years?
- 26:20Well, one of the main reasons Mika Fitzpatrick.
- 26:22And that's why I think Mika Fitzpatrick was the headliner.
- 26:25Everybody keeps talking about Jaylen Ramsey.
- 26:27Jaylen Ramsey is a great corner. Is he a Hall of Famer?
- 26:30I don't know. I know a lot of people love
- 26:32Jaylen Ramsey. I don't think so.
- 26:34I really don't. It's tough to tell he was the
- 26:36same. Guy that took shots at Josh
- 26:38Allen on the GQ magazine when he came into the league.
- 26:41Same guy that opened his mouth about Josh Allen saying that
- 26:43Josh Allen's not going to be any good.
- 26:45Meanwhile, Josh Allen won the MVP this year and he's one of
- 26:47the top three quarterbacks in the NFL.
- 26:49Where's Jaylen Ramsey speaking now?
- 26:51I don't hear Jaylen Ramsey and GQ on Newsday or whatever the
- 26:55hell he's at right now heading to Pittsburgh playing with
- 26:57himself. I, I'm going to tell you this
- 26:59right now, Jalen Ramsey is a problem.
- 27:02He's going to be a problem in the locker room.
- 27:04And we all know what the Pittsburgh Steelers, they do not
- 27:07know how to control their players.
- 27:08We've seen it. Juju Smith, Schuster, remember
- 27:11him with his TikTok. I remember that.
- 27:14And Mike Tomlin obviously pulled him to the side.
- 27:16They didn't even suspend him. He fined him 5000, I think it
- 27:20was $5000 and let him play the next next week.
- 27:23That's something Mike Tomlin likes to do.
- 27:25He's all for the players. And that, ladies and gentlemen,
- 27:28is why Aaron Rodgers wanted to go there.
- 27:30And that is why Jalen Ramsey wanted to be traded to the
- 27:34Pittsburgh. Steel, yeah, they're in too deep
- 27:35at this point with all the all the personalities there.
- 27:38We talked about it with other teams in the past, like
- 27:39sometimes you can accumulate the loud ones and make it to work.
- 27:42Obviously Seattle got that to work with Pete Carroll there in
- 27:44the beginning, and then once it got all sour with everybody, it
- 27:47all started to fall apart all at once.
- 27:49Same kind of thing with the Eagles when they won their Super
- 27:50Bowl in 2017. They had a lot of loud
- 27:52personalities on that team. Without Sean Jeffrey, obviously
- 27:55Michael Bennett. A lot of those defensive players
- 27:58on that first Super Bowl team for the Eagles were were like
- 28:00that. They made it work.
- 28:01But again, not a lot of those teams.
- 28:03There's also the same level of loud teams that don't work.
- 28:05Look at the Browns when they tried to get Odell and Baker
- 28:07Mayfield all at once and they have Freddie Kitchens as their
- 28:09head coach. That was a disaster.
- 28:10Notice the AFC North has been a problem with three teams.
- 28:15The Browns, Pittsburgh and the Bengals, all three teams over
- 28:20the years have had problems. Coaches have had problems
- 28:23controlling their players. Remember Vonte Burfict, remember
- 28:26him? Remember when he just completely
- 28:28nailed in the playoffs? Antonio Brown?
- 28:30Remember that? I don't think anybody gets that
- 28:33hit all right. They've had problems controlling
- 28:35players. Pittsburgh has had problems
- 28:37controlling players. And then obviously I mentioned
- 28:39the Browns, who obviously there's a guy named Watson who
- 28:45can't stay on a football field, got guaranteed money and loves
- 28:48to go massage parlors or at least create his own massage
- 28:51parlors. At the stadium and there was a
- 28:53second round draft pick they had last year that I already got a
- 28:55domestic assault or something like that.
- 28:57There was a linebacker that got suspended for financial fraud.
- 29:01Yeah. Good job, Cleveland, Good job.
- 29:03No, I was just going to say of these two, who do you think it
- 29:06actually has a bigger impact? And I I say this positively.
- 29:09Because they need him more because the Dolphins lost Javon
- 29:13Holland, they have injury prone other corners that have not been
- 29:16great to develop wise. I think with the with Jalen
- 29:18Ramsey, it brings another physical presence with with Joey
- 29:21Porter. They're both the same type of
- 29:22player at this point. I don't know if it's like a deal
- 29:24breaker to like make their defense to to the higher level.
- 29:28Miami needs the defense to be what they were in the
- 29:30second-half of the season. second-half of the season they
- 29:31played very well. It took them a while to get
- 29:34going though. But the problem is you just
- 29:35don't know what they're rushers, how healthy they'll be coming
- 29:38back. Makes sense, but it's just like
- 29:44you look at it because it's so weird when when a trade like
- 29:47this happens because it doesn't happen that often.
- 29:49Now with two star defenders all at once, and that was the that
- 29:51was the thing that was questioning with the Steelers,
- 29:53because the Steelers need more offense than defense and Miami
- 29:56kind of needs more front 7 than they do secondary.
- 29:58But again, at the same time, Minka could do so many different
- 30:01things. It's good.
- 30:02Yeah, and he can, he can adjust and obviously we've seen what he
- 30:05can do. And that's I was just wondering
- 30:06what like how the impact and obviously from from both sides
- 30:11of the ball, but I mean you're getting quality players on both
- 30:14sides. I think Mika's just more more
- 30:17susceptible to being able to do more things in a scheme than
- 30:20than Jalen is. Well, I just want to let, I want
- 30:23to give an announcement. I didn't get a chance to do that
- 30:25in the beginning. Happy birthday to Thomas and
- 30:28Thomas has been a a really good friend, a fan of the show.
- 30:31It is his birthday yesterday. Happy 19th birthday to Thomas.
- 30:36It is a great I watched this kid grow up Eric Martini's nephew,
- 30:40OK and I've known Eric for years.
- 30:43I haven't spoken Eric for over over six months.
- 30:45It's been a long time, but his nephew has been a fan of the
- 30:48show, loves the show and I wanted to just I, I, I didn't
- 30:52get a chance to do that. Happy birthday to Thomas.
- 30:54Happy 19th birthday, almost at 21, man, you're, you're
- 30:58considered a man, but you're still a young kid.
- 31:00Great drummer, great kid, great personality, big Yankee fan and
- 31:04loves Jabba Chamberlain. So keep listening.
- 31:07We will get in to the Yankees. And I'm sure Jabba's thoughts of
- 31:11what's going on with Anthony Volpe, who's been absolutely
- 31:13horrible, really. And the Yankees are going to
- 31:15have to figure out what they're going to do with him.
- 31:17Are they, do they move him or do they send him down to AA?
- 31:20Because I don't even think he can hit a AAA right now.
- 31:22He's had a problem all season long seeing the ball, but that's
- 31:25a whole another story. But to get back to what you guys
- 31:27were saying, Mika Fitzpatrick is the slam dunk player in this
- 31:30trade because one Mika Fitzpatrick is a team player 2.
- 31:35Mika Fitzpatrick wanted to he wanted to go to on down to a
- 31:38Florida team. He re signed with Pittsburgh
- 31:40because Pittsburgh obviously told him that he they wanted him
- 31:44to be there for life and he loves Mike Tomlin.
- 31:47Everybody loves Mike Tomlin, but I think Jalen Ramsey wanted out
- 31:51of the Miami Dolphins. The defense is obviously not
- 31:54been up to par over the last two seasons.
- 31:56This year, last year they weren't good, The year before
- 31:59was pretty good. Their defense played well with
- 32:00all the injuries they had and obviously losing their coach.
- 32:04He goes to the Philadelphia Eagles and wins, wins the Super
- 32:07Bowl the year after. But nevertheless, Jalen Ramsey
- 32:10had no interest to staying over there in Miami.
- 32:13There it's going to be an all offensive team.
- 32:15If Miami has any chance to win this coming season, they're
- 32:18going to have to really be an all out offense.
- 32:21And I could say this about Pittsburgh, they're going to be
- 32:23the complete opposite. Pittsburgh is a defense first,
- 32:26offense second. They've always been that way.
- 32:29And with obviously Mr. Watt there and now Jalen Ramsey, you
- 32:32have two guys that have been elite players at their position.
- 32:35But me losing Mika Fitzpatrick in the middle against tight
- 32:38ends, especially in the AFC, what you're going to have to
- 32:41contend with, you're going to have a lot of problems because
- 32:43you know, these coaches like to go up in the middle when it
- 32:47comes to these tight ends. And it's changed.
- 32:49The leaks changed. Go ask.
- 32:50And we all know Travis Kelsey, we all know the Kansas City
- 32:53Chiefs. The Kansas City Chiefs love to
- 32:55play that middle. They love to throw inside and
- 32:58losing Mika Fitzpatrick, who's so very good at hot, you know,
- 33:01Hawking the ball and and clogging up the middle.
- 33:04Now you sent him over there to the Dolphins.
- 33:06What are you going to do? Jalen Ramsey can't do that.
- 33:08Jalen Ramsey is a one-on-one player and again, they have a
- 33:12good one-on-one player in Porter junior.
- 33:14So I again, you you do have to contend with the teams that
- 33:18you're contending with in the in the in the AFC North.
- 33:22You do have to contend with the Bengals.
- 33:24You have Higgins there and you have have chased there and
- 33:27they're that's probably one of the most dynamic duos in the
- 33:31NFL. But I, I just think giving up a
- 33:33player of this magnitude, a guy like Mika Fitzpatrick, it, it
- 33:36really puts you in a bad position, especially when you're
- 33:39going into a season where you're not really deep at that
- 33:42position. Yeah, and also you mentioned
- 33:44like the Miami's going to have to rely a lot on their offense,
- 33:46still trying to figure out their defense.
- 33:47I know it's the second year of a coordinator that did well later
- 33:50in the season. But again, it's one of those
- 33:52things where can you trust Chubb and Jalen Phillips and all these
- 33:54other guys to come back healthy? Jake, in our private, I was also
- 33:56mentioning losing Christian Wilkins.
- 33:57They've really never been able to replace him.
- 33:59But on the offensive side of the ball, their offensive line last
- 34:02year was a mess though, too. They were, I think, the third
- 34:04worst overall offensive line in the NFL.
- 34:06Like they couldn't have done that in this type of Minka
- 34:08Fitzpatrick or a Jalen Ramsey trade if they knew they were
- 34:10going to trade Ramsey. It's been two months that
- 34:11they've known since they're trading Jalen Ramsey too.
- 34:13So that's the only thing that was kind of.
- 34:14Pitch goes into trade, any off? No, no, no.
- 34:16I'm not saying Pittsburgh, but they could have done around the
- 34:18league too. Like we talked about it one of
- 34:20the weeks you were gone Errol, when you were in Florida, I
- 34:22thought Minnesota was a really good fit for Jalen Ramsey
- 34:25because and they could have traded an offensive line in
- 34:26Washington would have been a good fit for.
- 34:28Jalen, you think Jalen Ramsey wanted to go to Minnesota?
- 34:30I don't know for sure, but like I think schematically speaking
- 34:33from the Dolphins, I think even though I think they got good
- 34:35value in this trade besides Pete.
- 34:36Burstick I don't think there's any player in the NFL that
- 34:39really wants to go to Minnesota, especially unless they getting
- 34:42they're getting paid because Minnesota is a cold place in the
- 34:46winter time. They do play in a Dome and
- 34:49besides the wonderful mole that they have over there, what do
- 34:53they call that Mall of America? There's really nothing out there
- 34:57except hockey and snow. So and farm.
- 35:01And if you like to hunt, if you if you like to hunt, Minnesota
- 35:03is a good place to go. But I don't think Jalen Ramsey
- 35:06is the type of person that likes to hunt.
- 35:08And I don't think Jalen Ramsey is the type of person that wants
- 35:10to go to Minnesota and enjoy his what last two or three years in
- 35:14the NFLI Think he wanted to go to Pittsburgh.
- 35:16I think he wanted to play for Mike Tomlin like everybody else
- 35:19does. And he thinks by playing with
- 35:21Jay, with a guy like Watt over there and the the talent that
- 35:25they have on that defensive line, he can compete and, and
- 35:28become that that superstar pro ball player that he has been
- 35:32over the last couple of years. And was he a pro ball player
- 35:34last year? I don't think he was.
- 35:35Yeah, he was. He was for the last five years,
- 35:37I think. How did he make, how did he make
- 35:38the pro ball with all the dominance of corners in the NFL,
- 35:42especially in the division of, well, in the conference he's in.
- 35:45Yeah, I guess. I guess maybe maybe because
- 35:48because I know Marlon Humphrey got the slot nod, so maybe that
- 35:51gave it another position for another TFC corner to get to get
- 35:54in there with Jalen Ramsey. Was he that?
- 35:55Good last year. He was top 15 corner last year.
- 35:58Maybe, but was he a pro ball player?
- 35:59I mean, again, it's tough to tell.
- 36:01I mean, Sir Tan was the obvious. That's the problem with the pro
- 36:03ball. I mean, yeah, there's because
- 36:05the. Fans vote.
- 36:06The fans vote. That's why Jalen Ramsey always
- 36:08makes it every single year is because of the fans.
- 36:10Because to me, I don't, I, I know everybody looks like these
- 36:13unbelievable statistics, the PFFS and whatever they call
- 36:17them, baseball's got them. And now football's got it.
- 36:20The NBA has got it. All these new statistics I could
- 36:22give a crap about. The fact is when I watched
- 36:25Jaylen Ramsey, he was beaten a lot when I was watching him
- 36:29play, especially when he was playing for Miami.
- 36:31Miami's defense was one of the worst defenses in the NFL last
- 36:34year and Jaylen Ramsey was a part of that defense.
- 36:37So for the fact that Jaylen Ramsey was a pro ball player
- 36:40just tells me why the pro ball is an absolute joke.
- 36:45And I know it's flag football. And by the way, there are a lot
- 36:48of guys that made the pro ball last year, one of them Russell
- 36:51Wilson. How did Russell Wilson and made
- 36:53the Pro Bowl last year? How the hell did he make the
- 36:56pro? Give you that one.
- 36:57You give it that. Give me that one.
- 36:58How about the kid from the Patriots?
- 37:00May. Drake May, yeah.
- 37:01How did May make well also the Pro Bowls like as Jake said in
- 37:05our chat too, it's like it becomes one of those things
- 37:08where it's like a popularity contest.
- 37:09It's not really who the best is. And as we're seeing, we see it
- 37:13in all sports too, when fans are part of the voting, they're not
- 37:16voting because he's the best. They're voting because he's the
- 37:18favorite player or whatever. And you see it, you see it all
- 37:21the time. And I think there's some some
- 37:23things that need to change. But also too, it's like, hey, I
- 37:26get another 50 grand if I, you know, if I'm a Pro Bowler, like
- 37:29hell, let him. Let him keep voting for me.
- 37:31Yeah. I mean, it's it's part of the
- 37:33game. And I don't think they'll ever
- 37:35take the fan voting out of it because it makes the fan feel
- 37:37like they're part of the game. Here's the problem, and I agree
- 37:40with you, here's the problem with the whole pro ball thing
- 37:42and the fans get to vote. When these guys are looked at as
- 37:46future Hall of Farmers, that's one of the things they look at.
- 37:49How many times have they made the pro ball?
- 37:51I know obviously being an all pro player is more important
- 37:54than being a pro ball player, but that's one of the things
- 37:57that the committee looks at. Oh, he's a 10 time, 11 time, 12
- 38:01time pro baller. I mean, Tom Brady was a career
- 38:0422 year pro ball player and he was an all pro player too.
- 38:08But the problem here is that you, you have the fans voting
- 38:12for these players and it doesn't make any sense.
- 38:14I don't think Jalen Ramsey was a top ten wide, top ten corner in
- 38:19the league last year, but he was a Pro Bowl player.
- 38:22Did he make the All Pro team? No.
- 38:25So that's the problem. If you're a Pro Bowl player, you
- 38:28should be an All Pro player too. That's where the NFL needs to
- 38:31figure this out because that's the same thing that happened.
- 38:35I I wasn't a couple years from a jet, one of the linebackers from
- 38:37the New York Jets. He was a all pro player, but he
- 38:40didn't make the pro ball. OK.
- 38:42It made no sense. If you're an all pro player,
- 38:45isn't that isn't that ass backwards?
- 38:46Yeah, it doesn't make sense. If you're an all pro player,
- 38:50you're a pro ball player. That's the way it should go.
- 38:54It doesn't make any sense. There are all pro players every
- 38:57single year that are not voting into the pro ball.
- 39:00How does that make sense? It just it never makes sense
- 39:03with the in in professional sports anymore.
- 39:05Yeah, it's all about money. It's all about the superstars.
- 39:07But guess what? If you're an all pro player,
- 39:10you're a superstar as far as I'm concerned.
- 39:12If you're out there playing your heart out every single week and
- 39:16you're the best defensive player for your team and one of the
- 39:18best defensive players at your position, how are you not a
- 39:21star? I mean, seriously.
- 39:23Once conference based one is the whole league like all pro.
- 39:26Definitely make it matter. But before we move on I would do
- 39:28what I bet you scoops mentioned in a private chat.
- 39:30Tyler Huntley made the Pro Bowl. Yes, the same Tyler Huntley that
- 39:32Jeff thought was better than DAC.
- 39:33Prescott, That's all. Another story, Jeff, That's all.
- 39:36And by the way, I love Jeff. Jeff went back and forth with me
- 39:39about the Knicks signings, which we'll get into tomorrow.
- 39:42But he was like, oh, our team did this and our team that.
- 39:45I don't care less right now. I want to know who the Knicks
- 39:49are going to be bring in as their head coach and until that
- 39:51happens I could care. That's who they bring in for for
- 39:54bench, hell board, even starters because it means nothing until
- 39:57you know who your head coach is going to be.
- 39:59ESPN reports that the Pistons guard Malik Beasley is being
- 40:03investigated by the US District Attorney's office for gambling
- 40:08allegations during a 2023 NBA season with the box evidence
- 40:14from well known sports book noticed some unusual activity
- 40:19starting in January of 2024, especially with.
- 40:22Prop bets Beasley's agent, Steve Haney told ESPN that an
- 40:28investigation is not a charge and gets the same rights of
- 40:33innocence as anybody else. The investigation also revealed
- 40:37that Beasley didn't pay a 650,000 payment on time based on
- 40:43a lawsuit from his former marketing agency.
- 40:46He is also liable to pay 2.25 million for violation violating
- 40:52a breach of a contract with Hazan Sports Management Group.
- 40:57Back in April, Beasley was in negotiations on a three-year
- 41:01deal to return with Detroit, but those negotiations were put on
- 41:07hold amidst this absolute scandal.
- 41:10Last year's John Last year John Day Porter was suspended
- 41:14indefinitely by the NBA after pleading guilty to wire fraud
- 41:18and conspiracy with gambling. Let me tell you guys something.
- 41:23Jonte Porter is no longer going to be an NBA player.
- 41:28That's the facts here. Adam Silver, if it was LeBron
- 41:33James, if, if it was LeBron James, the LJA himself betting
- 41:38on sports, he would have had a slap on the wrist.
- 41:41Slap on the wrist. That's a fact.
- 41:43OK. But because it's Jonte Porter,
- 41:46it's like it's not Michael Porter Junior, and Jonte Porter
- 41:49is Michael Porter Junior's brother.
- 41:52OK John Day Porter will never step on a basketball court ever
- 41:56again in the G League or the NBA ever because of this betting
- 42:01scandal. Now, Mike Malik Beasley is a
- 42:04good player. Is he a superstar player?
- 42:06No. The fact that obviously the
- 42:09District Attorney is investigating this situation,
- 42:13obviously there's some kind of story to it that he is not
- 42:17saying. There is some evidence that
- 42:20states that Beasley had some kind of involvement on this
- 42:24betting scandal with the box, with the buck game.
- 42:27I don't know the truth and I don't know the inside source.
- 42:30The fact is, I don't understand. If you're not betting against
- 42:35your team, I don't think there should be a problem with betting
- 42:39on sports. I don't think you should be
- 42:41allowed to bet on any of the games that you're playing in.
- 42:44That's what I think. But any other game outside of
- 42:48the lines of the game that you're playing, where you're
- 42:51going to affect the game, you can affect the game.
- 42:53It does. It shouldn't matter that these
- 42:55players are putting their own money in the game.
- 42:58Now, obviously there's some inside sources.
- 43:01They know referees, We all know that, but they're not the only
- 43:03ones. You're telling me right now
- 43:05Vegas doesn't have connections with the referees, with the
- 43:07league. Of course they do.
- 43:09How would they get it? Why are why is Vegas?
- 43:12I wouldn't say 90%, sixty, 8% of the time, right?
- 43:16They're 68% of the time, right? Because they have an inside
- 43:19source, duh. So why couldn't the players do
- 43:23it if the NBA could do it? And the NBA is making money on
- 43:27betting. They're 100% making money on
- 43:29betting millions, hundreds of millions of dollars every single
- 43:33year. Now.
- 43:33Meanwhile, the players, when they, they have their hands
- 43:37dipped or they want to make some money out of betting on certain
- 43:40sports games or even not their own games, but other games going
- 43:43on in the league, why can't they bet on sports?
- 43:46It makes no sense. Now with the District Attorney.
- 43:49I, I don't know what the, the United States or how the United
- 43:53States work when it comes to betting.
- 43:55Was it in an illegal state where you can't bet?
- 43:57I I don't know why the District Attorney is involved with this
- 44:00because this is an NBA thing, not a world thing.
- 44:04This is not a United States thing.
- 44:06So I don't understand why the District Attorney is involved
- 44:08with it unless he was doing something illegally where he is
- 44:12stealing money. That's, that's the only thing,
- 44:15stealing from taxes, tax evasion.
- 44:18I don't know why the District Attorney is involved with this.
- 44:20I got to read more about it, but obviously there's evidence that
- 44:24he was working with a sports bookie and and there are a lot
- 44:27of players doing it. And obviously Shay Ohtani was
- 44:31doing it, but he got away with it because the MLB knows that
- 44:34Shay Ohtani is one of the faces of their internationally
- 44:38international baseball. And they know that if Shay
- 44:40Ohtani was caught with that, his career is over.
- 44:43When it comes to baseball, Malik Beasley is not important.
- 44:46LeBron James, different guy. He's the face of he's still the
- 44:49face of the NBA. If Giannis did it, you think you
- 44:52don't think the NBA would get involved and try to hide it or
- 44:54push it under the rug or any of you?
- 44:56And Joel Embiid, the big mouth that he is.
- 44:58If Joel Embiid was doing it, obviously the NBA would have
- 45:01brushed it on the rug or done something to protect their
- 45:03superstar player. It is a big problem.
- 45:06And if you're going to go after the, the, the, what do they call
- 45:09them? The, the smaller puppy?
- 45:11Is that what they call him? The lower door market teams?
- 45:13No, no, no, I'm talking about the player.
- 45:15You're, you're going, you're going after the puppy instead of
- 45:17you're not going after the whale, you're going after the
- 45:19minnow. There you go, you're going out,
- 45:21you're going after the minnow instead of the well.
- 45:23And the truth is, if LeBron James is betting, which he
- 45:26probably is and I, I'm not, I'm not going to try to beat around
- 45:30a Bush. You're going to tell me that
- 45:31LeBron James when he goes to these MMA fights and he's going
- 45:33to these boxing fights, he's not betting on those sports.
- 45:36Come on guys. What kind of what kind of person
- 45:39do you think we are if we wouldn't believe that LeBron
- 45:42James is betting on sports? He's a multi millionaire and
- 45:45throwing away two $3,000,000. Look what Drake did.
- 45:48I mean, Drake week in and week out, a fight is out out there.
- 45:51He's throwing $3,000,000 here, $4 million there, two and a half
- 45:55million here. He doesn't care because it's
- 45:57it's the money that these guys are making.
- 45:59It's endless. But a guy like me, if I'm
- 46:02throwing two and a half million dollars, you best be known that
- 46:04I'm going to know who I'm betting on and I am I'm almost
- 46:08100% sure that he's going to pull out a win.
- 46:10Malik Beasley doesn't know what's going on.
- 46:12He might have an inside source where it's telling him that it's
- 46:16going to be around these points or it's going to be around the
- 46:18over under. I don't know.
- 46:20But the problem right now lies with Vegas, not with the players
- 46:24and not with the referees. It lies with Vegas.
- 46:27Because if Vegas knows what's going on and they have the
- 46:30answers to everything that's going on, why shouldn't the
- 46:32players get the information and bet on it too?
- 46:35And that's what's tough with this kind of situation too,
- 46:37because you're right, there probably is another source now.
- 46:39It's interesting. I know they were saying it was
- 46:41prop bet. It doesn't seem like it was on
- 46:43his game specifically because he actually still played really
- 46:46well that year. Like Jonte Porter, the situation
- 46:48with him was he actually he actually was actively tanking a
- 46:51lot of his games to get prop bets on the under I there's no
- 46:53evidence that suggests that with.
- 46:55Peter, let me ask you a question on the Pistons.
- 46:57Malik Beasley is playing on a Piston team, a young team.
- 47:00You think Malik Beasley is the only player on that roster that
- 47:03was betting on whatever he was betting on?
- 47:05Come on. Probably not not.
- 47:07He's a Malik. First of all, he's a young guy.
- 47:09He's a young guy, by the way, killed the Knicks, killed the
- 47:11Knicks in the first round. He absolutely dominated the
- 47:14boards against the Knicks. He he put a lot, he made a lot
- 47:18of problems for OG and Anobi when he was defending OG and
- 47:20Anobi. I, I, I think Malik Beasley is
- 47:22actually a pretty good player. He's still young, he's still
- 47:25developing. But to put it on like you were
- 47:27saying as a Jabba, he is not a whale and the NBA don't care
- 47:31about him. They if if these stories to be
- 47:33true and they come out to be true, if the NBA suspended for
- 47:36life, it wouldn't matter. But if it was anybody else, it
- 47:40would be Anthony Edwards. Could you imagine if Anthony
- 47:42Edwards is involved in the scandal, how big this would be?
- 47:45Nobody cares about Malik Beasley.
- 47:47Nobody even knows who he is. Unless you're a Detroit fan or
- 47:50you're a basketball fan. Nobody knows who Malik Beasley
- 47:53is. Nobody.
- 47:55Anthony Edwards loses $1 million at a bet he'll find 5 other
- 47:57people to blame before himself. That's what I'm saying.
- 48:00But if it's anybody else, Jalen, you're going to do it.
- 48:03Be smart about it. Right.
- 48:04And it goes back to the story we had last year too with Kevin
- 48:06Durant, too. Kevin Durant was something in as
- 48:09a FanDuel analyst during the NFL season.
- 48:11I think before the basketball season started.
- 48:13He was helping out making bats too.
- 48:15But meanwhile, John T Porter obviously gets to spend for
- 48:18pretty much for life barring some miracle and then Malik
- 48:21Beasley where he's being investigated too.
- 48:23But no, Kevin Durant could be a FanDuel analyst no problem and
- 48:26get football bets out. And Jake, like you're saying in
- 48:28the in the private chat there, you could bet on the NFLI guess.
- 48:31But again, why is he doing it publicly and him getting away
- 48:34with it because LeBron James association has no problem with
- 48:38Kevin Durant has been the other face of their league for quite a
- 48:40while. They'll get no problem.
- 48:41But Malik Beasley, a young kid who won a won a championship
- 48:44with a Nuggets, a good bench player, like you said, a pretty
- 48:46good player with the Pistons this year to help their young
- 48:48team and he's going to get, he's not going to get away with it to
- 48:51the same level. How old is Malik?
- 48:53Malik, I believe is 27. I want to.
- 48:55Say, still young, he's still a kid and he's going to make
- 48:58mistakes. But again, he is not the only
- 49:01NBA player that is doing he's not right.
- 49:04And I like you said Kevin Durant, Kevin Durant had how
- 49:06many Twitter feeds he had like 7 or 8 when that came out, nobody
- 49:10cared when Kyrie Irving sent out anti-Semitic views, nobody
- 49:14cared. As a matter of fact, Adam
- 49:16Silver, who is a Jew, he's a Jewish man.
- 49:18He didn't really do anything. He sat down with Kyrie Irving
- 49:21and pretty much said, listen, Kyrie, we're going to we're
- 49:23going to find you. We're going to suspend you for a
- 49:25couple of games and we're going to bring you back.
- 49:27I want you to apologize to the net fans.
- 49:29He apologized to the net fans. He gets traded a couple weeks
- 49:31later, he goes to Dallas at his press conference right in front
- 49:35of Adam Silver and said, I take back what I said.
- 49:37I take back my apology. I have a right to say and reach
- 49:41to my opinion. And I said what I said because I
- 49:43feel that it was right. So and and and Adam Silver
- 49:47allowed him to say those things and not punish him.
- 49:50But if it was Malik Beasley or Porter or any of these small
- 49:54known unknown guys, he would have dropped a hammer on them
- 49:57for doing something like. That was it.
- 49:58Those like 3 or 4 guys on the next that were doing it too and
- 50:01then they didn't. Then they got that covered up so
- 50:03badly. And again, it's just a matter of
- 50:06like, like you said, class record and again, other sports
- 50:08too, comparing him like the NFL, we Calvin Ridley got a whole
- 50:11year. Jameson Williams got 10 games
- 50:13this year for the same kind of thing.
- 50:14Like you're trying to set an example with that where the NFL
- 50:17doesn't have that kind of power with the players.
- 50:18Now they have player power when it comes to like going where
- 50:20they want to go and stuff, but not to the same level of like
- 50:23they're running the league. Like the NBA is like the NBA,
- 50:25the LJA, LeBron James Association, They've been driven
- 50:28by these stars trying to drive it up.
- 50:30The Players League. Yeah.
- 50:31And and that's going to be more encourage if these other.
- 50:34How many owners lost their teams because of the players?
- 50:38And now I'm not saying the owners were right for what they
- 50:40did because they were racist. They were disgusting people and
- 50:43what they've done in their past, but the NBA took those teams.
- 50:48The players took those teams away from the owners.
- 50:50They had to sell those teams because of what they did in the
- 50:53past. Again, they were not right for
- 50:55what they did and they apologized for what they did,
- 50:58but they did it. And the NBA players said,
- 51:00listen, we're not playing for any owner that's racist like
- 51:03that. So you know what, either you
- 51:05either you sell your team or we're not going to be stepping
- 51:08on your basketball court. And what happened, Remember
- 51:10Chris Paul, remember with the LA Clippers, Chris Paul had like
- 51:14this like picket fence staying that he did in front of LA where
- 51:18he said he will not play for this owner again.
- 51:21And what happened after that? And what was it, I forget the
- 51:23owners name again, Donald Sterling, Donald Sterling.
- 51:25Within weeks, Donald Sterling. Sterling had to sell to the
- 51:28biggest bidder and he got rid of his team just as quick.
- 51:32Because the NBA is run by the players now.
- 51:35You don't see that in the MLB. If there's something like that
- 51:38happening in the MLB, no, the owners would have been fine.
- 51:41They would have sat down with the other owners and they would
- 51:42have figured something out. Or even the NFL.
- 51:45You wouldn't see an NFL team do that or or players can't do
- 51:49that. We have seen so many things over
- 51:51the years in all different professional sports, but the NBA
- 51:55seems to be run by who? It's been run by 1 and the one
- 51:59and only players. That's all.
- 52:00ESPN reports that LeBron James has opted into a 52 point, $2.6
- 52:06million player option with the Lakers for this season.
- 52:10LeBron says he knows the Lakers will be very active this
- 52:14offseason, especially with new ownership buying the team for
- 52:18$10 billion. Rich Paul says that LeBron wants
- 52:21to compete for a championship and understands that the Lakers
- 52:25will still want to build for the future.
- 52:29Paul added that there's no guarantees LeBron will stay with
- 52:33the Lakers after the season, thinking the new ownership might
- 52:38want to build around Luka Doncic.
- 52:40He mentioned that the Warriors reached out about trading for
- 52:44him in February of 2024, and the Heat were open to reuniting with
- 52:49him if they were unable to trade Jimmy Butler.
- 52:54Kevin Love, when he saw LeBron recently, said that Lebron's
- 52:59wife badly wants him to retire after the season.
- 53:03LeBron averaged 24.4 points per game, 8.2 assists per game, and
- 53:087.8 rebounds per game in this past season.
- 53:12All right, and, and we all know that LeBron James runs the
- 53:15league. I call it the LJ.
- 53:16There's no argument to that. LeBron James came back because
- 53:19he's making $52.6 million. I know his wife wants him to
- 53:23retire. He's been on how many SP awards
- 53:26claiming that he might not come back?
- 53:28And then he is coming back. Over the last two years during
- 53:33the playoffs after being eliminated, he's come out and
- 53:36said he doesn't know if he's going to come back.
- 53:37And then he automatically comes in and he opts into a contract.
- 53:41LeBron James is probably going to retire after this year.
- 53:45Now, unless the the the Golden State Warriors are one of these
- 53:48big time NBA teams, maybe even the Houston Rockets, because the
- 53:53Houston Rockets are a team that's rebuilding and have a
- 53:55chance with a young coach in a Duca.
- 53:58Maybe the Rockets would combine him with Kevin Durant over there
- 54:02in Houston and try to make a run for an NBA title.
- 54:04But LeBron James is probably playing his final season as an
- 54:09NBA player. He's he's building his podcast.
- 54:11He has all these different production companies, he's got
- 54:15all these different assets that he's invested in over the last
- 54:18really last 10 years. And he's one of the most, he's
- 54:21one of the more richer athletes we've seen come out of
- 54:24professional sports in history. The fact is, Luka Dodgek is the
- 54:29young superstar. He's going to be 26 years old
- 54:32going into the season. He lost a lot of weight.
- 54:34So far what we've heard, he's lost 20 lbs.
- 54:37He was at one of the NBA playoff games.
- 54:40It looked like he he lost at least 20 lbs, maybe even £15.
- 54:43He looks like he's in a really good shape.
- 54:45And with new ownership, $10 billion that they obviously
- 54:49invested into buying the Lakers, I expect the Lakers and new
- 54:54ownership to build around Luka Dodgek.
- 54:56Now LeBron James is still going to make his $52.6 million if the
- 55:00Lakers fall out this going this coming season and and Luka
- 55:04Doncic isn't enough with LeBron James.
- 55:06I could see LeBron James getting traded at the trade deadline.
- 55:09Reason why is there going to be a ton of teams lining up for a
- 55:13play of this magnitude. LeBron James is still averaging
- 55:1524 points, 8 rebounds, I mean 8 assists in seven rebounds.
- 55:20If you look at his career statistics, LeBron James is a
- 55:23career 2728 point scorer, 8 assists, 8 1/2 assists a game,
- 55:29and 7:00 to 8:00 rebounds a game in his career.
- 55:32So LeBron James is still at the top of his game.
- 55:34Now, LeBron James is not the defender he once was, and LeBron
- 55:39James cannot keep up with some of the younger players that
- 55:41we've seen over the last couple of years in the NBA.
- 55:44But he's still a sensational player.
- 55:46He's still one of the elite players in the NBA.
- 55:48If you were to look at LeBron right now and, and, and put him
- 55:51in the top 15, top 20, I don't think you can argue LeBron James
- 55:54is a top 15, top 17 player right now in the NBA.
- 55:58But the Lakers are going to look to go young.
- 56:02Austin Reeves turned down a $96 million contract this offseason.
- 56:06I think he wants to go to free agency next year and see what
- 56:09free agency is going to offer him.
- 56:11And with new ownership now it's going to be a little bit
- 56:14different for the Lakers and where the Lakers organization is
- 56:17going to go in the future. The only reason why LeBron James
- 56:20came to the Lakers it was because of the bus family.
- 56:23The bus family don't own the organization anymore.
- 56:27Now you're going to look at LeBron James and and think that
- 56:29LeBron James is looking to win that 5th title to tie Kobe
- 56:33Bryant to be considered arguably the greatest, greatest
- 56:37basketball player of all time. Now we all know he's not Michael
- 56:40Jordan, but if he gets his fifth championship, if he goes to
- 56:43Golden State or he goes to Houston, or maybe if he goes to
- 56:46OK C and wins another title, then you could start to consider
- 56:51or people will start even considering the argument that he
- 56:54is as good or even better than Michael Jordan.
- 56:57LeBron James practically has every single playoff statistic,
- 57:02regular season statistic. He is broken record after record
- 57:06after record. There's nothing LeBron James
- 57:08needs to do to prove that he is the second greatest basketball
- 57:11player of all time. I believe that's what LeBron
- 57:13James is. A lot of people would argue me,
- 57:16argue with me. They'll say Kareem, a dual
- 57:18Jabbar, they'll say Kobe Bryant, they'll say Tim Duncan, they'll
- 57:21say Hakim Moulashwin, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson.
- 57:24You could put all these guys amongst the best players right
- 57:28behind Michael Jordan. But the fact is LeBron James is
- 57:32coming back because he's making $52.6 million and I if I'm not
- 57:36mistaken, this is the most money he will make as a professional
- 57:39basketball player. Nobody's going to walk away from
- 57:4252 and a half million dollars. Nobody.
- 57:45I don't believe LeBron James will be a Laker for the rest of
- 57:48the season. I think at the trade deadline if
- 57:51the Lakers fall out, and I don't think the Lakers are going to be
- 57:53aggressive because trade, I mean, obviously the offseason
- 57:57has started, free agency has opened up.
- 57:59Unless they get Giannis, who they going to get there and
- 58:02you're only getting Giannis if you trade something.
- 58:04Who you trading for Giannis, Austin Reeves, nobody.
- 58:08You're going to have to trade a hell of a lot more than Austin
- 58:10Reeves. They get Giannis.
- 58:12You're going to have to trade maybe LeBron James, Austin
- 58:14Reeves and and probably your future to bring in Giannis and
- 58:18and that means LeBron James is no longer with them.
- 58:20So that's not going to happen. I just think there's nothing out
- 58:25there right now. Now this free agency market is
- 58:27not as good as it's going to be next year.
- 58:29I, I don't know where anybody believes that LeBron James will
- 58:33stay with the Lakers by the trade deadline.
- 58:35There are a numerous amount of teams that are looking to win a
- 58:38championship or on the cusp of being one of the elite teams.
- 58:41Any of it. Maybe it goes back to the
- 58:43Cleveland Cavaliers. Maybe it goes back to Cleveland
- 58:46and tries to win a championship with Spider and, and, and the
- 58:49coaching staff over there with, with Kenny Atkinson.
- 58:51This is if they add LeBron James to that roster.
- 58:55I mean, is anybody going to beat them in the East?
- 58:58I, I that automatically makes them the favorites at the trade
- 59:02deadline to win the East. How about the Celtics?
- 59:05The Celtics, obviously you have Brown, you have White there.
- 59:10You don't have, you don't have, you don't have Tatum.
- 59:13He's he might be back at the end of the season.
- 59:15They're saying Jason Tatum will miss the whole season with an
- 59:18Achilles tear. If he's training already.
- 59:20He had his surgery the next day within 24 hours of the Knicks
- 59:24game. The Knicks series, I, I expected
- 59:27him to possibly be back sometime before the playoffs.
- 59:31If Tatian comes back and you have LeBron James and you have
- 59:34Jalen Brown and you have you have a guy like White.
- 59:37I mean, aren't you a contender? Aren't you Eastern Conference
- 59:41contender? Well, LeBron James, they're
- 59:43going to play for the Celtics. Do you remember the last Laker
- 59:47to jump ship and go from Miami to Cleveland to the Celtics?
- 59:52Do you remember that? It was Shaquille O'Neal?
- 59:56Shaquille O'Neal retired as a as a Celtic.
- 59:59Now, he didn't do anything with the Celtics, but he retired.
- 1:00:02Well, he actually retired with, if I'm not mistaken, it was
- 1:00:05Orlando he retired with. But he that's what usually
- 1:00:10happens after your career. You usually, you usually sign
- 1:00:14with your old team and you retire with your old team.
- 1:00:16That's what usually happens. I'm not sure if he retired with
- 1:00:18Orlando or the Lakers, but he retired with one of those teams.
- 1:00:22But his final? Year as an NBA player, if I'm
- 1:00:26not mistaken, it was with the Celtics and if LeBron James
- 1:00:30wants to do that and and and try to fight and try to win a
- 1:00:33championship over there with the Celtics.
- 1:00:35The Celtics are automatically the favorites are coming out of
- 1:00:38the East because LeBron James automatic could you put if Jason
- 1:00:42Tatum comes back and if Jason Tatum, Jaylen Brown, you're
- 1:00:45automatically a championship contending team.
- 1:00:48Right. And especially you're seeing now
- 1:00:50with the way that the salary cap could go up to obviously it
- 1:00:53doesn't matter. I mean, yeah, LeBron, we know we
- 1:00:55can manipulate a lot of. Different because here's the
- 1:00:57reason why. Jason Tatum, if he comes back,
- 1:01:00it will be at the end of the season.
- 1:01:01Insurance already is paying for him.
- 1:01:03So even if he comes back, you're not paying him for a full
- 1:01:05season. So you could bring LeBron James
- 1:01:08contract in with the Boston Celtics at the trade deadline
- 1:01:11because even if Jason Tatum comes back, he's not going to be
- 1:01:14paid. That is paid by insurance.
- 1:01:16It doesn't affect their salary cap.
- 1:01:18It doesn't affect their cap. So they can actually trade for
- 1:01:22LeBron James and not worry about Jason Tatum coming back because
- 1:01:25it won't affect them. Right.
- 1:01:26And that's the luxury that you have when you have these these
- 1:01:30salary cap situations, these aprons.
- 1:01:32Obviously, they traded Drew Holiday in Porzingis just to get
- 1:01:34under it. But like you were saying last
- 1:01:35week, like there's no guarantee that the Celtics don't have
- 1:01:37another big thing in mind too. And they know what's going on
- 1:01:40with the Lakers. They know what's going on with
- 1:01:41the box. And it seems like that too.
- 1:01:42And again, with the situation with the Lakers with with
- 1:01:45LeBron, like he would seem like it was kind of set in stone the
- 1:01:47way he was manipulating it. But again, being he's already
- 1:01:50won a championship there, there's always going to be that
- 1:01:52extra threshold of what am I going to do one more time.
- 1:01:55And obviously these companies out there production wise, all
- 1:01:57this pizza stuff and all that stuff is out there, but.
- 1:02:00Albums are dipped into every single business.
- 1:02:02I know that. And again, at the same time, you
- 1:02:04now bring in new ownership. You have a ownership group that
- 1:02:07comes from the Dodgers. That's obviously they like to
- 1:02:09spend a lot of money too, but they're also very they try to be
- 1:02:11more young and progressive. And that's why I think they were
- 1:02:13mentioning, OK, we're going to try to build around Luka Doncic.
- 1:02:15I'm surprised Magic Johnson didn't buy into the Lakers.
- 1:02:17Yeah. It's interesting because I think
- 1:02:19he has a little bit of a stake, but it's not to the same level
- 1:02:21of those with the Dodgers. And now Andrew Walter the new
- 1:02:25owner or Mark Walter the new owner, if that is there, you
- 1:02:28would think there would be some kind of influence get magic
- 1:02:31involved, especially with Magic now being involved with.
- 1:02:33Washington Magic Johnson will be involved with the Lakers,
- 1:02:36especially with Luka Doncic being there.
- 1:02:38One way or another, Magic Johnson will have his hand
- 1:02:40dipped in with with the Lakers after LeBron James decides to
- 1:02:44part ways with the Lakers organization.
- 1:02:46So will LeBron at some point. That's what I'm saying.
- 1:02:48LeBron James is going to be. I don't know if LeBron James
- 1:02:52will be a part of the Lakers. I think when LeBron James
- 1:02:55retires. Yeah, when I think when LeBron
- 1:02:58James retires, when a team becomes available, maybe The
- 1:03:01Mavericks, because if ownership can't find a way to bring a
- 1:03:05casino over there in Dallas, you know, he loves Cooper flag and
- 1:03:09LeBron James has billions of dollars.
- 1:03:11He by the time LeBron James is ready to buy a team, he probably
- 1:03:15is worth a couple of billion dollars with the assets that he
- 1:03:18has. LeBron James is going to buy
- 1:03:20into an NBA team. Why not the Dallas Mavericks?
- 1:03:22Think about it that way. Think about it this way.
- 1:03:25The Dallas Mavericks have Kyrie Irving, there has Anthony Davis.
- 1:03:29Both players played with LeBron James, both players won
- 1:03:32championships with LeBron James, and then you have Cooper Flag
- 1:03:35there. One of the best young stars
- 1:03:37right now the NBA has to provide, and he has come out and
- 1:03:40said during the Olympic practices that this guy is the
- 1:03:44best American player he's seen come out of United States
- 1:03:46basketball in the last five years.
- 1:03:48That's just a lot about what he thinks about Cooper Flag.
- 1:03:52As a matter of fact, one of the things that were brought up
- 1:03:55after Cooper Flag was drafted, when he was obviously
- 1:03:57interviewed, he said, what did LeBron James talk to you about?
- 1:04:00And he told Cooper Flag, you know, cherish the moments of
- 1:04:05this, this opportunity because you're never going to be at the
- 1:04:08in this situation again. And that says a lot about LeBron
- 1:04:11James, who, by the way, never even played college ball.
- 1:04:13This guy went right to the NBA as a high school player and it
- 1:04:17was already inaugurated as the King.
- 1:04:19So I'm not saying Cooper flag is LeBron James and I'm I think
- 1:04:23he's the next Kevin Durant. That's just my opinion.
- 1:04:25But LeBron James has an opportunity at the trade
- 1:04:28deadline if need be. And and again, the bus family is
- 1:04:31not running the organization anymore and he has no reason to
- 1:04:34stay there. Expect LeBron James if the
- 1:04:37Lakers are not a contending team and they don't have any assets
- 1:04:41where they can make a trade at the trade deadline to bring in
- 1:04:43another superstar to play with him and Luca where LeBron James
- 1:04:46is going to ask to be traded. I I'm willing if you're a bet
- 1:04:50man, Jabba, if they're obviously we're not NBA players, so we can
- 1:04:54bet if you're a betting man, ladies and gentlemen, I would
- 1:04:57bet LeBron James at the trade downline will be traded to a, an
- 1:05:01experiencedly gifted NBA title team.
- 1:05:05And I say experience because I think one of the teams that he's
- 1:05:08going to get traded to as a team that's won a championship in the
- 1:05:10last couple of years or is ready to win a championship.
- 1:05:14And again, there's always going to be the veteran ties because
- 1:05:16we talked about, OK, can LeBron handle the young players too,
- 1:05:18which if the Lakers are going to progress in that direction, are
- 1:05:21they going to want to trade a lot of those younger players as
- 1:05:23well? Like, yeah, you're talking about
- 1:05:24like they don't have this high end younger player that you'll
- 1:05:27be like, OK, this guy's a can't miss type prospect.
- 1:05:29I like to connect. Last year he was kind of up and
- 1:05:31down his rookie year. Rui Hatchimor is not bad.
- 1:05:33Like you said, Austin Reese is probably their best trade option
- 1:05:35and he's kind of frustrated with the team anyway.
- 1:05:37So it seems like he's inevitably going to be out.
- 1:05:39That's going to shoot down your trade value.
- 1:05:40So so like, what do you have if you're the Lakers to be able to
- 1:05:43do that kind of thing? If you don't go to that next
- 1:05:45level with this new philosophy that you're saying you look at
- 1:05:49the way the league is now outside of the Warriors, you're
- 1:05:51looking at a format where it's two stars and you build a pretty
- 1:05:54good core around it, balance players.
- 1:05:57It doesn't really matter of having like the star point guard
- 1:05:59or the star center where I know, OK, you see just one with
- 1:06:01Shadeja Alexander and Jed Holmgren.
- 1:06:03But besides that, you're seeing a lot more of these wing type
- 1:06:06teams and it's really two stars and getting everyone else
- 1:06:09affordable at that point. And maybe that's the Lakers
- 1:06:11mindset. And if it takes trading LeBron
- 1:06:14in order to do that, if the Lakers don't contend right away,
- 1:06:17because we know LeBron doesn't like to play a lot at the
- 1:06:19beginning of the regular season either.
- 1:06:21And if he can't? He's averaged about 62 to 65
- 1:06:24games this season for the last five years.
- 1:06:25Yeah. And again, it's interesting to
- 1:06:27think like if they could fill that void if LeBron doesn't have
- 1:06:30to quote UN quote low man and stuff like that, if he does stay
- 1:06:32healthy. And that's the other question
- 1:06:34that somebody like JJ Reddick keeps.
- 1:06:37Favorite coach if you know. LeBron, If LeBron James knows
- 1:06:40this could be his final season, you would think, think that
- 1:06:43LeBron James is going to play at least 80 games, wouldn't you?
- 1:06:45Thank you. You want you want the fans to
- 1:06:48come and see you for the last time.
- 1:06:49Michael Jordan, We all know the Michael Jordan story.
- 1:06:52He came out many, many times, said teams.
- 1:06:55I mean, fans come to watch me play.
- 1:06:57I wanted to make sure that everybody got a chance to see me
- 1:06:59play at least once when I was playing basketball.
- 1:07:02And that's why he played almost every single game.
- 1:07:04You never see Michael Jordan miss a game.
- 1:07:06He was always out on the basketball court hurt with the
- 1:07:09flu as we saw him in the playoffs.
- 1:07:11That man went out there and played his heart out.
- 1:07:14LeBron James has not been that type of player really over the
- 1:07:16last five years. Now, LeBron James is still an
- 1:07:19elite player. There's no question that he is.
- 1:07:21He's still at the top of his game, Maybe not the same
- 1:07:23defensive player was, even though he's tried to play that
- 1:07:27contagious defense over the last couple of months of the season.
- 1:07:31He's not that type of player anymore.
- 1:07:33But LeBron James still has the ability.
- 1:07:36If he goes to an organization in the right team, he is absolutely
- 1:07:39that boost that that organization's going to need to
- 1:07:42win a title. Yeah, always going to be thought
- 1:07:43of as a missing piece when you're that good in the
- 1:07:45playoffs. And even the durability aspect
- 1:07:46compared to some other NBA players have still been better
- 1:07:49for LeBron, even at age 41, than a lot of Kawhi Leonard.
- 1:07:53And look at Paul George, all these other guys that these
- 1:07:55veterans that are always getting hurt too.
- 1:07:56So there's still an optimism that you would believe if you
- 1:07:59were the Lakers to be able to make that kind of thing work.
- 1:08:01And that's what the new ownership will bank on at the
- 1:08:02moment. And also new ownership thinks
- 1:08:04that they can get something for him.
- 1:08:06I, I mean, LeBron James is a guy that can help A-Team give him a
- 1:08:10boost to possibly win a title. What would you get for LeBron
- 1:08:13James if he's averaging about 25 points per game, 8 assists and
- 1:08:16seven rebounds and can change your roster for the better?
- 1:08:19Even if LeBron James comes off the bench, which that will never
- 1:08:21happen now, even if LeBron James comes off the bench and you got
- 1:08:24a player of this magnitude coming off the bench, what are
- 1:08:27you willing to give up for somebody like this will almost
- 1:08:30guarantee you an Eastern or Western Conference chance to win
- 1:08:33a championship finals to win a championship.
- 1:08:36What would you what would you be willing to give up?
- 1:08:38You're talking about me. I think I think it'll be decent
- 1:08:41though. But you got to remember it it at
- 1:08:43this point you got you got to look at it as a rental, not as a
- 1:08:46long term. So then I think you got to look
- 1:08:48at it like, OK, are we are we just this rental and what are we
- 1:08:52willing to give up or what do we want to give up?
- 1:08:54Or is it worth giving this up to to figure out like, OK, we got a
- 1:08:59shot if we get this guy. That's kind of like it's just
- 1:09:02hard when you get into that rental frame of mind because
- 1:09:04it's like, what do I really want to get rid of knowing this isn't
- 1:09:08going to be long term 100? Percent and that's what a lot of
- 1:09:11other NBA teams have kind of fallen into the trap of too.
- 1:09:14We talked about it last week with the Kevin Durant trade with
- 1:09:15the Suns too. They kind of felt like they were
- 1:09:17desperate at that point. Now at the time when they did it
- 1:09:20I thought it was fine. I like 2023 they had the season
- 1:09:24before where they lost to The Mavericks in the in the Western
- 1:09:26Conference finals, the 67 win team so it seemed like a big
- 1:09:29swing and then they go get Bradley Beal and everything goes
- 1:09:31downhill after that and the Nets have done it the Clippers have
- 1:09:34done it with Paul George and Koi Leonard.
- 1:09:36Obviously, we talked about how that trade really helped OKC get
- 1:09:39over the top the way they did and that meant there's going to
- 1:09:42be some teams, Jabba, that don't think that way.
- 1:09:44They're going to fall into that desperate.
- 1:09:45All right, last plea, tight move.
- 1:09:46If they can get something else around it.
- 1:09:48We mentioned Miami before, like Miami reuniting with Pat Riley.
- 1:09:51They get Jimmy Butler off the books who was disgruntled over
- 1:09:54there. Would they consider a big move?
- 1:09:56Does Pat Riley have something up his sleeve for somebody like
- 1:09:58LeBron? You said the South.
- 1:09:59No, he's not going. LeBron James is not going back
- 1:10:02to Miami. He's not.
- 1:10:04They don't have a chance to win. Even if they had LeBron James
- 1:10:06there with Bam out of bio and Tyler Hero, do you think they're
- 1:10:09going to get over the even against the Knicks with the
- 1:10:12roster the Knicks have? They don't beat the Knicks.
- 1:10:14They don't beat the Cavaliers if the Cavaliers are healthy.
- 1:10:17So I I don't see LeBron, LeBron James, if he knows this is his
- 1:10:21final year, which could very much happen if if he believes
- 1:10:24this is his final year, he's either going to go to the
- 1:10:26Western Conference where he can win with Houston with Kevin
- 1:10:29Durant. Could you imagine him and Kevin
- 1:10:30Durant on a roster they've always wanted to play together?
- 1:10:33Why not go, you know, play your final season at the trade
- 1:10:37deadline with one of your favorite players to play with,
- 1:10:39with Team USA Basketball and go and make a run with Kevin
- 1:10:42Durant. See if you can get over the
- 1:10:43hump. That would be amazing.
- 1:10:45LeBron James ride offs to the sunset like Peyton Manning did.
- 1:10:49Win a championship with one of your best friends.
- 1:10:51I mean, that would be, that would be a storybook ending in
- 1:10:55LeBron James's. Story with the power of the
- 1:10:57LeBron James association help everything out with it as well.
- 1:11:00He's going to definitely try to manipulate as much as possible
- 1:11:02with wherever he ends up going. Again, I don't know how
- 1:11:05frustrated the would be with the Lakers, but it's always
- 1:11:07different with newer ownership. When LeBron, LeBron obviously
- 1:11:10decided to go to the Lakers, it was different with the Buss
- 1:11:12family there. And obviously there's other
- 1:11:13players that have come and gone with the Buss family that have
- 1:11:16had their power. But at the same time, the Lakers
- 1:11:18haven't had the holding power of these players either.
- 1:11:21Look at somebody like Anthony Davis.
- 1:11:22Now, obviously you can't pass up a trade with Luka Doncic, but
- 1:11:25look at all the other stars that have come and gone or even just
- 1:11:27almost went there and get that kind of result.
- 1:11:29And now you're seeing it with LeBron.
- 1:11:30It seemed like a. Surefire, you know who would
- 1:11:32have? Who would have thought that
- 1:11:34after trading Luka Doncic and and Nico Harrison look like the
- 1:11:38the dumbest GM in NBA history and he's really dumb.
- 1:11:42I mean we all know what the Nets have done over the years.
- 1:11:45They've done a lot of stupid things.
- 1:11:46But Nico Harrison trading one of the best young players the NBA
- 1:11:50has ever had, foreign international players the NBA
- 1:11:53has ever had, and then all of a sudden out of nowhere, out of
- 1:11:57nowhere, win the lottery, win the lottery with a 3.8% chance
- 1:12:02of winning it. Listen, that it was like 2 point
- 1:12:05something, whatever it was, it doesn't matter.
- 1:12:08It was a percentage. No chance in hell for him to win
- 1:12:12Cooper flag. And then he wins the best young
- 1:12:14American player we've seen come out of the draft like LeBron
- 1:12:16James have said in five years. That says a lot about where the
- 1:12:21NBA is and how I believe LeBron James has run the organization.
- 1:12:25And that's that's just the facts.
- 1:12:26And if LeBron James wants to go and play with the Rockets and
- 1:12:29play with Kevin Durant, he'll go there.
- 1:12:31If LeBron James wants to go and play with Miami, he'll go there
- 1:12:34there. If LeBron James wants to go to
- 1:12:35the Cleveland Cavaliers and and win his his final championship,
- 1:12:39I have his chance to win and right off into the sunset in his
- 1:12:42hometown, his home, his home area in Cleveland, he will go
- 1:12:45there. So it it's up to LeBron James
- 1:12:48where he wants to go and I think the Lakers will oblige him.
- 1:12:51I don't know what the Lakers are going to get much knowing that
- 1:12:54he is going to walk away from the game.
- 1:12:55He is going to leave. But guess what, you land LeBron
- 1:12:58James. If you're the Cleveland
- 1:13:00Cavaliers or you're the Houston Rockets, you're almost
- 1:13:03guaranteed to go to the Western Conference Finals and maybe even
- 1:13:06make a run to the NBA Finals. That's how good LeBron James
- 1:13:10still is and what LeBron James could give you as a player on a
- 1:13:15basketball court. So there's, again, going back to
- 1:13:18this whole situation with LeBron James and taking the 52 and a
- 1:13:21half million dollars. I only believe he took the money
- 1:13:24because he's making the most money he's ever made.
- 1:13:26And #2 I really do believe he has no interest of staying with
- 1:13:31the Lakers. By the trade deadline.
- 1:13:33I expect LeBron James to ask to be off.
- 1:13:36By the way, another team that would be looking at LeBron James
- 1:13:38is the Golden State Warriors. I, I could see the Golden State
- 1:13:41Warriors if they're playing good basketball and Steph Curry is
- 1:13:43healthy. That's another guy that LeBron
- 1:13:45James and, and Steph has said over the years he would love to
- 1:13:48play with. So I wouldn't be surprised if he
- 1:13:51gets traded to the Golden State Warriors with Steve Kerr there.
- 1:13:54So, and, and they'll have a chance to win a champion.
- 1:13:56Could you imagine him, Jimmy Buckets and Steph Curry on a
- 1:14:00roster? Scary.
- 1:14:02Oh God, they're going to steal all the headlights too.
- 1:14:04They've already done already. LeBron steals headlines as it
- 1:14:06is. We talk about the Warriors, all
- 1:14:07the. Time scary.
- 1:14:09The LJA is back, ladies and gentlemen.
- 1:14:11Mr. Mr. Draymond, Greed is still there.
- 1:14:14He'll steal some other headlines.
- 1:14:15Too, It would piss me the apple off.
- 1:14:16Oh, I know. If if I watch LeBron James go to
- 1:14:19Golden State and win a championship with Steph Curry
- 1:14:21and Jimmy Buckets, I will be. Pissed the FL that would be
- 1:14:24probably. Just I will not be happy.
- 1:14:27I am not. Listen, everybody thinks that
- 1:14:29I'm a LeBron, a LeBron James fan because I think he's the second
- 1:14:31greatest basketball player of all time.
- 1:14:33And I do because he's going to have almost every single record
- 1:14:36when he walks away from the game and he the longevity to do what
- 1:14:40he is doing on a basketball court is untouchable.
- 1:14:42I don't think we'll ever see an NBA player play as long as
- 1:14:46LeBron James and be as dominant as LeBron James has been over
- 1:14:50the last 20 years. OK, that's a fact.
- 1:14:52I don't care what anybody says. You could cut this up and roll
- 1:14:56it up and throw it wherever we want to throw it.
- 1:14:59I, I am not a LeBron James fan. I, as a matter of fact, I don't
- 1:15:02like him as a personality off at the basketball court.
- 1:15:04His politics, his, his political views are absolutely horrendous.
- 1:15:08But what he is as a basketball player, you can't take away his
- 1:15:11greatness. You can't.
- 1:15:14He is the greatest basketball player, right behind Michael
- 1:15:17Jordan. That and that includes over Kobe
- 1:15:20Bryant, Tim Duncan, Kareem Dole, Jabbar or Magic Johnson, Larry
- 1:15:25Bird. This guy is going to go down as
- 1:15:27the second greatest basketball player of all time.
- 1:15:29And you could take back whatever you say about me on social media
- 1:15:32saying I don't know what I'm talking about when it comes to
- 1:15:34basketball. If you guys actually don't
- 1:15:36believe this guy is the second greatest basketball player of
- 1:15:39all time, then you guys don't know basketball.
- 1:15:41Yeah, you do not. Yeah, and I think he there was
- 1:15:43another step that too like he already has.
- 1:15:45I think he's 40 games away from already having the most regular
- 1:15:48season games played record amidst all his load, load
- 1:15:52management and stuff like that too amidst all the other stuff
- 1:15:54to get all the dramas and stuff going throughout the league.
- 1:15:58So his longevity, like we said, as as crazy as he's.
- 1:16:01Incredible. Yeah, he's incredible.
- 1:16:04How could you be 40? What, he's going to be 4142
- 1:16:07years old? He's 41 right now.
- 1:16:09He'll be 42. At the he'll be 42 years old.
- 1:16:11Last year, he's 41 years old. He turned 41.
- 1:16:13He was averaging 24/8 and 7/24, 8:00 and 7:00.
- 1:16:17His career numbers are at 28 or 29, eight and seven.
- 1:16:22This guy's longevity at the top of his game will be unmatched
- 1:16:26forever. Nobody's going to touch this,
- 1:16:29and as much as you think I have a love fest for him, I can't
- 1:16:33stand the man. I don't walk away from
- 1:16:35greatness. When you walk, when you look at
- 1:16:37Alex Rodriguez, there are a lot of Yankee fans that can't stand
- 1:16:39Alex Rodriguez. Oh, he cheated.
- 1:16:41He did this, he did that. Guess what?
- 1:16:43Alex Rodriguez is a top five player of all time.
- 1:16:46And if you guys want to argue that, we could come on this show
- 1:16:48right now and I can go through statistics, new statistics, old
- 1:16:53statistics, and argue my points why Alex Rodriguez is still a
- 1:16:56top five player of all time. You can't take away greatness.
- 1:16:59No matter what he did, he's special and that's what LeBron
- 1:17:04James is. He's a special player and he'll
- 1:17:06always be remembered as the second greatest basketball
- 1:17:09player that ever played in NBA history.
- 1:17:12And then we got Jabba, who could defend Alex Rodriguez from
- 1:17:14knowing him personally. I'm sure Jabba would agree with
- 1:17:17me on that one too, in more ways than one.
- 1:17:19I mean, obviously I get it. But yeah, it's, I guess if you
- 1:17:25wanna go off a matrix and they put it.
- 1:17:27I mean, you can put all their numbers into whatever, but it's
- 1:17:29like we can talk about Barry Bonds.
- 1:17:31Bonds is a Hall of Famer before supposedly he did this.
- 1:17:34I mean, your head doesn't grow in your 30s.
- 1:17:36So I'm gonna put two and two together.
- 1:17:38Yes. He never tested positive, but
- 1:17:40I'm gonna go ahead and throw two and two together.
- 1:17:42But tell Jason Kidd that. Yeah, same time you still got to
- 1:17:46put bat on ball. Just because you take it doesn't
- 1:17:48necessarily make you a better baseball player.
- 1:17:50So yeah, there's there's a lot of things we could argue with
- 1:17:53with a lot of athletes before, you know, things, things I guess
- 1:17:57came to a head and, and, and what have you.
- 1:17:59But yeah, there's there's a lot of guys that didn't need it.
- 1:18:01They they did it for other reasons.
- 1:18:03And who knows what those reasons really, really are.
- 1:18:06Jabba, we have had guys on the show that told us straight out
- 1:18:09they did steroids and we're never Major League players long
- 1:18:12in a week longer than a week and and they did steroids.
- 1:18:17But but because Alex Rodriguez did steroids.
- 1:18:19Oh, he's the worst person in the world.
- 1:18:20Yeah. Did he do bad things?
- 1:18:22Did he throw people under the bus that he tried to threaten
- 1:18:25people? Yeah.
- 1:18:25Alex Rodriguez is not a good person, but as an athlete, as a
- 1:18:29player, you can't argue he's a top five player of all time.
- 1:18:32The numbers would tell you that he is and the same.
- 1:18:34Yeah, you don't, you don't have to like, you don't have to like
- 1:18:37the person, but you got to respect whatever it's I don't
- 1:18:42care like Floyd Mayweather, not a fan, but to never lose in a
- 1:18:46boxing ring. That's that's tough to say.
- 1:18:49And I, you don't have to like him.
- 1:18:51You don't have to agree with what he does.
- 1:18:52I, I get it because I don't with, with a lot of athletes.
- 1:18:55But at the end of the day, I respect of what they did and how
- 1:18:58they did it. To be that successful for that
- 1:19:00long and to do something that less than .01% get the
- 1:19:05opportunity to do it and do it for a long time.
- 1:19:07You got to respect what they do. You don't have to like them.
- 1:19:10You don't have to take them to dinner.
- 1:19:11You don't have to invite them to your kids birthday party, but
- 1:19:14you respect the craft that they do in, in, in any way shape or
- 1:19:17form. And that's in that's not in
- 1:19:19sports, that's in anything. You got to give credit where
- 1:19:21credit's due, even if you don't like them.
- 1:19:22Oh, and, and again, a lot of people on social media would
- 1:19:25think that I'm a big LeBron James lover.
- 1:19:27Like I have some kind of love fest for LeBron James.
- 1:19:30I can't stand the man and I don't walk away and I don't
- 1:19:33trend to the the opposite side saying that LeBron James isn't
- 1:19:37worth every bit to get a chance to watch him play, you know,
- 1:19:40every week or every game or every other game because LeBron
- 1:19:44James plays one game a week. Nevertheless, LeBron James is
- 1:19:47special to watch. LeBron James, if he cares about
- 1:19:51the fans and he knows this is his final year as an NBA player,
- 1:19:55he should play all 82 games. If he's healthy enough to do it,
- 1:19:58he should give every young kid that wants to get a chance to
- 1:20:01watch. One of the greatest basketball
- 1:20:03players of all time. Get to watch him one more time,
- 1:20:05one last time. That's what Mariano Rivera did.
- 1:20:08Remember Mariano Rivera, they, the Yankees made sure that when
- 1:20:11he did that whole trend around for his final season, his Grand
- 1:20:16Tour, they made sure he was out there.
- 1:20:18He was pitching not every single game, but the majority of the
- 1:20:21games. So Derek Jeter, Derek Jeter, you
- 1:20:24know, nobody knew that it was Derek Jeter's last season until
- 1:20:28Derek Jeter pretty much came out, you know, mid, What was it,
- 1:20:32quarter, quarter into the season.
- 1:20:33And he said this was his final year.
- 1:20:35OK. And what did Derek Jeter do for
- 1:20:37the fans? He made sure he was out there
- 1:20:40every single game so the fans could get a chance to watch him
- 1:20:43play. That's greatness.
- 1:20:45That's what you want to see. I want to say, hey, you know
- 1:20:47what? For all the people 20-30 years
- 1:20:50from now, I could say I watched Alex Rodriguez play baseball.
- 1:20:54I watched Derek Jeter play baseball.
- 1:20:56I watched Michael Jordan play basketball.
- 1:21:00I watched Wayne Gretzky play hockey or Marc Messier or Mario
- 1:21:04Lemieux, OK. Or, you know, if you're a cream
- 1:21:07of dual jabbar, I saw Korean of dual jabbar play live.
- 1:21:10That's what you want to say. That's what you always want to
- 1:21:13remember. That's what you want to tell
- 1:21:14your grandchildren, your kids or your great grandchildren.
- 1:21:16And that's what LeBron James stands for.
- 1:21:19As much as you can't stand him and as much as I can't stand him
- 1:21:22because I believe the NBA is the LJA, I don't take away for what
- 1:21:26he has done for the game of basketball and what he has
- 1:21:29delivered as a young man. Remember, he came from high
- 1:21:33school and everybody considered him the King.
- 1:21:36Could you imagine the pressure LeBron James had when he stepped
- 1:21:40on an NBA court? Now, do I think LeBron James
- 1:21:44should have won Rookie of the year?
- 1:21:45No, Carmelo Anthony was rookie of the year when when him and
- 1:21:47Carmelo came out from the draft. Carmelo had better numbers than
- 1:21:51LeBron James. My honest opinion is Carmelo and
- 1:21:54Carmelo. Carmelo Anthony was robbed, was
- 1:21:57robbed for the rookie of the year.
- 1:21:59Nevertheless, LeBron James has won every single thing he's he's
- 1:22:05won rookie of the year, he's won MVPS, he's won Defensive player
- 1:22:08of the year, he's won everything.
- 1:22:10And that's why LeBron James is considered the second greatest
- 1:22:15basketball player of all time. And there are statistics.
- 1:22:18There are records that will never be broken, never be
- 1:22:21broken, because you're not going to see an NBA player play as
- 1:22:25long as LeBron James has played all.
- 1:22:27Right quickly before our guest is in and we have Golf Club New
- 1:22:30York Yankee mania. Shout out to him again the
- 1:22:32Lakers challenge next year. Yeah, they definitely could, but
- 1:22:34they need a lot this offseason. By the way, I want to say
- 1:22:37something for all you Laker fans and I'm just being honest.
- 1:22:42Luka Doncic was traded to be brought in to the Lakers for the
- 1:22:46reason that LeBron James was probably his final one or two
- 1:22:50years going to be moved at 11 point or another.
- 1:22:54I expect LeBron James to be traded.
- 1:22:57Do I think the Lakers are making the playoffs next year?
- 1:22:59They had their chance this year to make a run.
- 1:23:02They fell short. LeBron James will not be a Laker
- 1:23:05at the trade deadline. I guarantee you by the trade
- 1:23:08deadline he will be traded somewhere He is playing this
- 1:23:12final year. He will not be back the after.
- 1:23:15I expect LeBron James to be an owner, maybe even AGM of a team
- 1:23:21really early in his career before he he eventually buys a
- 1:23:24team in the open market. And I do believe it's going to
- 1:23:26be Dallas. I really have this feeling it's
- 1:23:29going to be the Dallas Mavericks because it's very typical
- 1:23:32ownership over there in Dallas do not know what they're doing.
- 1:23:35And they only bought the team because they thought they were
- 1:23:37going to build a casino over there.
- 1:23:38And it doesn't seem like Dallas is going to allow a casino.
- 1:23:42And if they don't in the next five years, expect Cooper Flag
- 1:23:46to leave unless LeBron James comes in and takes over or a big
- 1:23:50name comes in there and takes over and tells Cooper Flag to
- 1:23:52stay there. Because he's going to build,
- 1:23:54he's going to build an organization around him.
- 1:23:57Because I, I just don't think Cooper Flag's going to want to
- 1:24:00be there. I, I think he, his goal or his
- 1:24:03presence on what we've heard over the last couple of months
- 1:24:05is his future could be in Boston.
- 1:24:08So I, that's, that's my opinion. I think Boston is going to do
- 1:24:12everything they can to free up salary to maybe make a move to
- 1:24:16bring in a guy like Cooper flag in the future.
- 1:24:18And that's what, 5-6 years down the road.
- 1:24:20So I expect Cooper flag if if Dallas doesn't get it together,
- 1:24:26ownership doesn't get it together with this casino.
- 1:24:28Cooper flag to say, you know what, I don't want to be here
- 1:24:29anymore. I want to go to my hometown.
- 1:24:31I want to play for my home team and I want to be at Boston
- 1:24:34Celtic. And that's something the Celtics
- 1:24:36absolutely believe could happen. All right, ladies and gentlemen,
- 1:24:40our golf clap of the day. This deserves a golf clap.
- 1:24:45No doubt. Golf clap.
- 1:24:46Golf clap. Our golf clap of the day goes to
- 1:24:51the New York Knicks, and I know a lot of Knicks fans are
- 1:24:53probably upset that the Knicks have not.
- 1:24:56You heard it from me, Not brought in a head coach.
- 1:24:59There are rumors coming out that Mike Brown might be the lead guy
- 1:25:03to get the job, but there's also rumors that the second guy on
- 1:25:06the list is Taylor Jenkins. The reason why the Knicks are
- 1:25:09going to get a golf clap of the day is for Leon Rose.
- 1:25:13Leon Rose, for all the Knick fans out there on social media
- 1:25:16saying that the Knicks are a stupid organization and how
- 1:25:19could you go into a draft without a coach?
- 1:25:21How could you go to free agents without a coach?
- 1:25:23Well, This is why the Knicks went into free agency without a
- 1:25:26coach. Because Leon Rose, everything
- 1:25:29he's touched turned to gold. He brought in Jaylen Brunson.
- 1:25:32He paid Jaylen Brunson $58 million as a free agent.
- 1:25:35And look what Jaylen Brunson has become.
- 1:25:37He's been become Mr. Clutch. As for the New York Knicks and
- 1:25:41and the Knicks first captain since Carmelo Anthony.
- 1:25:43What did the Knicks do after that?
- 1:25:45Well, they made trades trading RJ Barrett.
- 1:25:47They brought in a guy like OG Anobe.
- 1:25:50OG Anobe is one of the best defensive players, perimeter
- 1:25:53wing defenders in the in the NBA.
- 1:25:55You bring in Mikhail Bridges, you bring in Karl Anthony Towns,
- 1:25:58you you, you decided to move players and give Miles McBride a
- 1:26:03big contract. Well, a three-year contract for
- 1:26:05a bench player after training Cretan Grimes and absolutely
- 1:26:09slam dunk that move, bringing a Mitchell Robinson and paying
- 1:26:12Mitchell Robinson to a four year, $60 million contract where
- 1:26:15he's underpaid as a center in the league.
- 1:26:17Everything Leon Rose has done for the New York Knicks has
- 1:26:21turned to gold. So why judge him on social
- 1:26:24media? I'm not going to judge him.
- 1:26:26I think Leon Rose knows what he's doing.
- 1:26:28And my golf clap of the day goes to Leon Rose and the New York
- 1:26:32Knicks because the Knicks are not reaching on this coaching
- 1:26:35search. They're going to make the right
- 1:26:37decision and they're going to put themselves in position next
- 1:26:40year where they're going to make a run for another championship.
- 1:26:42So my golf clap of the day goes to Leon Rose and the New York
- 1:26:46Knicks. When we come back, ladies and
- 1:26:49gentlemen, he's back. Ladies and gentlemen.
- 1:26:51Jabba has never interviewed him on this show.
- 1:26:54And now it's no longer the sports loudmouth.
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- 1:27:00going to have former Orioles, Blue Jays and Yankees pitcher
- 1:27:03Josh Towers on with us here on the Worldwide Sports Radio
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- 1:29:03I, I, I saw Josh. He was like, you know, he's, he
- 1:29:06was hiding and he appears, he reappears.
- 1:29:09He's like a magician, ladies and gentlemen.
- 1:29:10And now, ladies and gentlemen, he's been on our show four or
- 1:29:13five times. He's a great personality.
- 1:29:16He's doing so many things in the world of sports podcasts.
- 1:29:20He's been on iHeartRadio. He's been all over the place,
- 1:29:23including sports betting. We're now talking to former
- 1:29:26Orioles, Blue Jays and Yankees pitcher Josh Towers.
- 1:29:30Josh, what's up, buddy? Listen man, I love those photos,
- 1:29:34by the way, No Golf Club of the day for me.
- 1:29:39What's going on with that? Well, that had something to do
- 1:29:42you want. Me.
- 1:29:45To give you a Golf Club. Do you want me to give you a
- 1:29:47golf? Club.
- 1:29:47No, that's good too right now. Hey Speedy, they changed the
- 1:29:50name of the show and you don't even get none.
- 1:29:52Java gets it. His job would take questions
- 1:29:57over you well. Hold on one second.
- 1:29:58He's in the He's in the logo. He's in the logo.
- 1:30:01There you go. He's hanging from his underwear.
- 1:30:03I I was hanging for the for my underwear for the last four
- 1:30:05years. Wow, that's not dirty shows up
- 1:30:08and now you, I mean you just kicked to the curb again.
- 1:30:13My underwear won't fit on the curb.
- 1:30:14Speedy is just the biggest star as any of us on this show.
- 1:30:17Let me tell you something. Nobody pushed him.
- 1:30:19To the curb. He's still, he's still the
- 1:30:21producer slash Co host of this show and he's a great
- 1:30:25personality. Speaking of Co host and being a
- 1:30:27great personality, that goes to you, my friend, because we know
- 1:30:30the whole background behind you. Before we get into our
- 1:30:34conversation about what's going on in the MLB, what's going on
- 1:30:38with your nephew? I mean, he was playing baseball,
- 1:30:40right? What's going on with him?
- 1:30:42My son. And your nephew, isn't he your
- 1:30:44cousin or your his cousin or your nephew?
- 1:30:46Somebody else was playing college ball.
- 1:30:49It wasn't just your son. No, just my boys like I have.
- 1:30:53I have my son and my adopted son.
- 1:30:56They've been adopted. In college.
- 1:30:58Yeah, no, he's done things. Just laziness on his part, to be
- 1:31:02honest with you. My son actually just had Tommy
- 1:31:04John, unfortunately. Yeah, you were saying that,
- 1:31:06which sucks. Yeah, because he.
- 1:31:07Well, he was going to be drafted pretty high, like top three
- 1:31:11rounds and then then Tommy John. But so we'll see what happens
- 1:31:14now he's going to be that senior kid that hopes to sign.
- 1:31:16But just bad timing. I mean, his fall was awesome,
- 1:31:21like 9 innings, no hits, no walks, 15 punches, just doing
- 1:31:25well, right? And then and then this thing
- 1:31:27shows up out of nowhere, which is unfortunate.
- 1:31:29But when he got hurt, it was January.
- 1:31:32The doctor read the MRI wrong. So we just found out like in May
- 1:31:38that it actually is torn and his somebody with the team, one of
- 1:31:43the trainers or something told him he goes, yeah, dude, I I
- 1:31:46thought it was torn the whole time.
- 1:31:47Like I knew it was torn. And Ryan said why do you say
- 1:31:49anything? He goes, I wasn't allowed to.
- 1:31:52So even though the document wrong and whoever else, he's
- 1:31:55like, I wasn't allowed to say anything and I was like, bro,
- 1:31:57you, we lost three months. Like there was, it's not the
- 1:32:00full Tommy John. This is like 8 or 9 months.
- 1:32:02I don't know if that is, but like we lost three months of
- 1:32:05rehab time. But that's a big deal when
- 1:32:06you're trying to play college baseball.
- 1:32:08So hopefully it works out. We'll see what happens.
- 1:32:11Josh, the New York Yankees and Aaron Judge was breaking
- 1:32:14records. He was doing things that we've
- 1:32:16never seen a player do since Ted Williams.
- 1:32:18I mean, he was unbelievable for the 1st 2 1/2 months of the
- 1:32:21season. And then and then in the month
- 1:32:25of June, he was batting. He's been batting 267.
- 1:32:28He only has seven home runs. He's in kind of a slump right
- 1:32:31now, but he's still batting 354. He has thirty home runs, 67
- 1:32:35RBI's. He's on pace to hit about 606566
- 1:32:39home runs this season and still over over 130140RB is if he
- 1:32:44stays healthy, does he win? Does he win the Triple Crown?
- 1:32:47I. Mean he's always in the running
- 1:32:48now, I mean you don't have to hit but 300 to win the the the
- 1:32:51batting title these days. So that's not that hard.
- 1:32:55He's always going to be in the legal league at home runs and RB
- 1:32:57is because of, you know, where he hits and the power that he
- 1:32:59has. So I mean, I don't I don't see
- 1:33:01why he doesn't He's not always going to be in the talk.
- 1:33:04It's crazy, right, and Java, you can speak on this man.
- 1:33:06It's crazy how and I know we're not picking on Aaron Judge, but
- 1:33:10you know, we expect big things from these guys and and you have
- 1:33:13one bad month where he's struggling a little bit and now
- 1:33:16it's like, oh, what's happened to judgey?
- 1:33:18But usually it's April that he struggles, right, and then he
- 1:33:21has this fantastic April. You know how hard it is to be
- 1:33:24lights out for six straight months.
- 1:33:26It's so hard, right? And so for this to be a bad
- 1:33:29month for him and it's still those numbers, like, it just
- 1:33:33shows you how good this kid is, man.
- 1:33:35He starts slow and kind of to see the way he's, you know,
- 1:33:40managing how he continues to get better because we we've seen how
- 1:33:44there's been like, oh, you know, his strikes don't discipline now
- 1:33:46we've seen how it's gotten better.
- 1:33:48His chase rate has gotten better and you know how he just keeps
- 1:33:50getting better and you know, he he's going to be in the
- 1:33:53conversation especially too. You got to look at it now,
- 1:33:56obviously your favorite player, Errol and and Jazz and how he's
- 1:34:00been hot since he came back. Jazz Chisholm it it's giving him
- 1:34:05it's giving him a little bit of relief.
- 1:34:06But if you look at it as a whole, he really hasn't had much
- 1:34:10thank, thank goodness Goldie got off to a hard stop.
- 1:34:12I mean, he's still hitting 285. But it's just I mean, he's kind
- 1:34:16of done it by himself with no protection.
- 1:34:19He's been walked twenty plus times in the first half already.
- 1:34:22Still nothing compared. And we haven't talked about this
- 1:34:24kid and we'll get it to him tomorrow.
- 1:34:26James Wood is a joke. He has better than Juan Soto
- 1:34:28numbers in the start of his career.
- 1:34:30James Woods an absolute joke. He's the guy that we're going to
- 1:34:33be talking about like this the next couple of years.
- 1:34:34He just, he's quietly doing, I think they all are in
- 1:34:38Washington. I think Washington's the team
- 1:34:39like probably starting next year that people have like where'd
- 1:34:41they come from? And it's like what?
- 1:34:43But he it's like every year, every month, he's doing the
- 1:34:47little things to slightly improve, slightly improve.
- 1:34:50Or it's not like this amazing season that we all get all
- 1:34:53excited and they fade. Like the consistency of his
- 1:34:56improvement is so good. And it's it's, it's done so
- 1:35:01right without anything being rushed.
- 1:35:03Like this dude is going to be a star bro, A star in this game.
- 1:35:08And I and I seen it with the way judges like, you know, struggle
- 1:35:12and he's always had those stupid like, you know, the toe running
- 1:35:15into the fence and getting hit by a ball.
- 1:35:17Like that's just dumb luck, which sucks.
- 1:35:19But I think the way he's gotten better and he continues to get
- 1:35:22better and especially with really nobody around him being
- 1:35:26able to protect him, he's he's going to be in the conversation
- 1:35:31every year. I mean, that's just a long and
- 1:35:32sure, if you look at him, if you look at him right now, he's he's
- 1:35:35first in batting average, 358. He is second in home runs right
- 1:35:40now in a league with 32 rallies. A33.
- 1:35:43Well, he's not like I love it. Always doing and cut you off
- 1:35:46real quick, brother, probably being a catcher.
- 1:35:49It's so hard to continue to do this dude.
- 1:35:52They don't get time to breathe. We don't ever stop talking to
- 1:35:55him. Somebody's always talking to
- 1:35:56him. That's why I catch a swing at
- 1:35:57the first pitch all the time. They're I mean, they're in
- 1:36:00conversation walking up to the plate right with some pitcher or
- 1:36:03some pitching coach. It it's a lot of work for those
- 1:36:07guys to go squat 5-6 hundred times a day and continue to
- 1:36:10drive like this. So I mean, it's amazing what
- 1:36:12he's doing, but I don't think those home run numbers continue
- 1:36:15for Cal. And no disrespect to him, it's
- 1:36:17just his position. So if if he's the only guy that
- 1:36:21judges in in in the race with, it's I judge going to pass it
- 1:36:24pretty soon. So.
- 1:36:25Yeah. So I want to ask about the the
- 1:36:26trade deadline strategy with the Yankees too, because like the
- 1:36:28combined value with the depth of the Yankees looked like they had
- 1:36:30at the beginning of the season with the lineups obviously the
- 1:36:32Torpedo back. Controversy.
- 1:36:34What? Yeah, What depth are you talking
- 1:36:36about? The one that the ones they were
- 1:36:37supposed to have signed, obviously Goldsmith been great.
- 1:36:40Cody Bellinger, they make the trade for and.
- 1:36:42We're. Expecting a bigger.
- 1:36:45With Anthony Volpe, and that hasn't really been there.
- 1:36:49Who was you? The Yankee fan's gonna hit me.
- 1:36:50He's not good. The guy's not good.
- 1:36:52But but people are freaked. Down because his swings long and
- 1:36:56slow. How about fix your swing?
- 1:36:57He's not that good man. It's just this overrated hype
- 1:36:59coming out of minor leagues. That's my opinion.
- 1:37:01But think about it. Everybody wants to say sucks
- 1:37:04does this. He has over 1600 at bats in the
- 1:37:06big leagues. He's a career 228 hitter.
- 1:37:08We're not talking about 300 at bats.
- 1:37:10What are we talking about? That's what I feel about soda.
- 1:37:12Like look at the last three or four years.
- 1:37:14The last four years is like a 268 hitter.
- 1:37:16He had that amazing second year. He's had some good power
- 1:37:18numbers, especially Yankee Stadium.
- 1:37:20But it's like, let's be honest about facts here.
- 1:37:22I mean, again now once the hype of the the bat thing he got is
- 1:37:27gone, he's back to being a 220 hitter or whatever.
- 1:37:30It's just let's face reality with this man.
- 1:37:33Yeah. So what would you do with the
- 1:37:34deadline like approaching with the lineup like obviously they
- 1:37:37might need pitching, but again, they.
- 1:37:38Have had top guys. They had top guys, too.
- 1:37:41They've done well. They, they always need pitching,
- 1:37:43man. I mean, look at the Mets, right?
- 1:37:45When they were going good until this last three weeks, they led
- 1:37:49baseball, I think in starting pitching and bullpen.
- 1:37:51And that's when they're winning. And now that their pitching is
- 1:37:53the worst in the game in the last three weeks, both sides
- 1:37:56starting and relieving, they, they're the worst team in
- 1:37:59baseball the last three weeks. And so you, you always need
- 1:38:03pitching. So whether you go back, I mean,
- 1:38:04are you really going to trust him?
- 1:38:05Weaver pitched in the 7th inning today.
- 1:38:07I mean, you see the closers, the 8th inning guys, he's the 7th
- 1:38:10inning guy. Like who's doing what?
- 1:38:12And you they show that they don't have faith.
- 1:38:14And and even when we were there before, when I was with the Oars
- 1:38:18and Blue Jays, they they've never really understood how to
- 1:38:20run a bullpen no matter who was there.
- 1:38:22So they use everybody. So they're going to need
- 1:38:24pitching no matter what. Somebody's got to keep the other
- 1:38:28team off the boards. I don't you don't look at
- 1:38:30Houston, right? They're winning all the time.
- 1:38:33It's because they don't give up a lot of runs and they do what
- 1:38:35they need to do to win. So pitching's for sure.
- 1:38:38They don't trust Stroman. Plus, I don't know how you could
- 1:38:40trust Stroman. We've had some injuries and
- 1:38:44then, yeah, you can go get a bat.
- 1:38:46Like I'm cool with that. But is that why?
- 1:38:50And I know there's no so no. But is that why they lost the
- 1:38:52World Series last year? Because it wasn't right?
- 1:38:55It's all the little stuff. It's the back end of the bases.
- 1:38:57It's knowing where you're going with the ball before you get to.
- 1:38:59It's getting your ass to first base.
- 1:39:01I mean, Volpe gets off the hook and I'm not picking on the kid,
- 1:39:04but Gerrit Cole takes the heat for not going over to first
- 1:39:07base, right? He should have been over to
- 1:39:08first base, but I'll give him a little pass just because of the
- 1:39:14mental grind he was in that inning to stay in the moment.
- 1:39:18But instinctively, it's why we work every day.
- 1:39:20So our incidents are there when our brains off.
- 1:39:22We all know when the balls to that side we got to get to first
- 1:39:25base. So you know, he takes a little
- 1:39:27heat. Judge took the heat for dropping
- 1:39:29the 1st 5 ball, but Volpe had no idea where he was going with
- 1:39:32that ball ahead of time. And so like if it's a position
- 1:39:34player, if it's coming to me, I'm going here.
- 1:39:36So this side I'm going here. So this side I'm going here
- 1:39:38depending how slow it is. He didn't put himself in those
- 1:39:40situations that balls hit to his right last second.
- 1:39:43He decided to go to 3rd. It's too late there right.
- 1:39:45So I still think they have the team to do it even if they
- 1:39:49didn't go make moves. But they got to clean up the the
- 1:39:53the mental side of the game and knowing where to be ahead of
- 1:39:56time. If they want to be that good and
- 1:39:58and face a team that like Detroit or or LA or even
- 1:40:03Houston, that does the little things right, that gives them a
- 1:40:06chance to where they don't have to score six runs a game.
- 1:40:11You know, it's it's crazy. And by the way, if anybody
- 1:40:13doesn't know, we're talking to the one and only, and we've had
- 1:40:16them on the show quite a few times.
- 1:40:18We're talking to former Orioles, Blue Jays and Yankees pitcher
- 1:40:21Josh Towers. You know, it's crazy when you
- 1:40:23look at the league and we have looked, we, we have seen so many
- 1:40:27young superstars come up over the last couple of years and
- 1:40:31pitching. We, we were just talking about
- 1:40:33it last week. Milwaukee's got a young stud
- 1:40:36right now. Paul Skins is a sensational
- 1:40:39young pitcher right now in Pittsburgh.
- 1:40:41Who do you think I know you mentioned Woods.
- 1:40:43Who do you think is the next guy up that's going to take over,
- 1:40:47you know, in the next 5 years as the superstar of the league over
- 1:40:51guys like Ohtani and Aaron Judge?
- 1:40:53I. Mean those are our two real big
- 1:40:54superstars. I don't know, man, you might
- 1:40:57want to give me some time to research this before you ask me
- 1:40:59a crazy question like that. Is it crazy?
- 1:41:02I mean we before we before we talked about Jay Wood, like he
- 1:41:04would literally he would have been my answer.
- 1:41:06No question about it. I just think the world of this
- 1:41:08kid and and what he's doing. So I you know, without being
- 1:41:12prepared, I'm going to I'm going to stick with that.
- 1:41:13It's it's tough with pitching right, because so many guys are
- 1:41:18so, so damn talented, but talent.
- 1:41:21What's it worth if you don't know how to use it?
- 1:41:24That kid in Milwaukee is insane. I think that's where he's at,
- 1:41:27right? That kid we just got called up.
- 1:41:30He's absolutely insane. But you know, the Cincinnati
- 1:41:34Reds are a prime example. We rush these dudes to the big
- 1:41:37leagues so fast, and you can't rush time and development.
- 1:41:39There's certain things that I don't care how talented you are,
- 1:41:43you need time to learn. And they rush Burns to the big
- 1:41:46leagues. And I was telling my son before
- 1:41:49yesterday, this game, I go, dude, he's going to get torched.
- 1:41:50And he's like, Oh, you know, you know, something's in college.
- 1:41:52You're like, oh, no, he's this, he's that.
- 1:41:54I'm like, I don't care, I don't care.
- 1:41:56You throw 95, I throw 95. You have a change up.
- 1:41:58I got to we all get the same stuff.
- 1:42:00Why, Why did Java pitch nine years in the big leagues and I
- 1:42:02pitched 8 years and you have zero and you got better stuff.
- 1:42:05Why? Because clearly we know how to
- 1:42:07use it. And there's certain situations
- 1:42:08that we've had time to work our our brain through and we've been
- 1:42:11comfortable in certain situations to trust stuff.
- 1:42:14And you don't just throw 100 miles an hour to have a nasty
- 1:42:17slider and fall behind and the ball leaves early so hitters can
- 1:42:21take it a little bit early and then next thing you know, it's
- 1:42:232O, it's 21, it's one O and now you got to come to me and you
- 1:42:26don't have the trust to work on the corners on off of depth
- 1:42:29hill. And now what?
- 1:42:30Now you're just going to serve me a cookie at 100.
- 1:42:32Those go a long ways. And so I think a lot of a lot of
- 1:42:36our issues is, is the rushing and their thing to Burns and is
- 1:42:39a lot of guys like this. I just mentioned his name.
- 1:42:42We're we we've done spring training right?
- 1:42:44We've done April, we've done May, we've done June where we're
- 1:42:47four months into this. Where in his life has he played
- 1:42:50four months straight of of season baseball to where you
- 1:42:54have to continue to be on a routine and continue to work
- 1:42:58colleges what 4050 games, high schools, 2030 games without post
- 1:43:03season minor leagues. He didn't have it like he's
- 1:43:05already at his peak that he's ever played consistently this
- 1:43:08most baseball without a break, he's going to fade.
- 1:43:11And that's part of it too. So we have young guys all over
- 1:43:15the place that are beasts, and we have more young arms that are
- 1:43:18freaks than ever before. Don't don't forget spring
- 1:43:21training too. Josh, as I said, spring
- 1:43:23training, yes, the first part, yeah.
- 1:43:24We, we've had 40 bodies of camp that people don't realize.
- 1:43:27And so now you're at your peak and you still got three months
- 1:43:30of baseball left. It it's it's not that easy, man.
- 1:43:32And and so we have all these kids and, and we're rushing him
- 1:43:37to the big leagues. Look at Dylan Cruz, what are we
- 1:43:39doing? Look at what they did with
- 1:43:43Torkelson. Luckily, he slowly started to
- 1:43:45figure it out. Look at Vaughn and in the White
- 1:43:47Sox, like all these guys should be stars.
- 1:43:49But we rushed the development of every time you get, you do good
- 1:43:53for a month or two or a week or two, we promote you, then we
- 1:43:56promote you, then we promote you.
- 1:43:58Guess what happens when you get to the big leagues?
- 1:43:59There's no more promoting now. Let's do it again tomorrow.
- 1:44:02Guess what? Do it again tomorrow.
- 1:44:03Guess what? Do it again tomorrow and be
- 1:44:05good, Guess what? Do it again tomorrow and that's
- 1:44:08all. And that'll never end.
- 1:44:09And we don't know how to do that.
- 1:44:11And so these guys don't know how to work through success and then
- 1:44:14maintain it and improve along the way.
- 1:44:17And then the first sign of failure, they've never faced it,
- 1:44:19so they don't know how to handle that.
- 1:44:21We've taken that away in the development aspect.
- 1:44:24So we have a lot of players on the offensive side or the
- 1:44:26pitching side that should be, could be, but aren't.
- 1:44:33Hold on. A little while ago, one second.
- 1:44:37Hold on, one second. There was something that you
- 1:44:39mentioned, I would say about 15 minutes ago where you were
- 1:44:43yapping about Juan Soto. What is what is this hatred for
- 1:44:47Juan Soto? Listen, I'm not a Juan Soto guy.
- 1:44:50I was very happy that the Yankees parted ways with him.
- 1:44:53I would never pay him $768 million.
- 1:44:56Why do you hate him so much? Why do you think?
- 1:44:58He's an overrated player. What makes him a?
- 1:45:01I think he's just completely overrated.
- 1:45:02I mean, I do, I think he's talented, of course.
- 1:45:04I think he's a good player. Yeah, he's a subpar outfielder.
- 1:45:07He's what does he do on the bases?
- 1:45:09He doesn't do anything on the bases.
- 1:45:11It's he's in it. I don't care.
- 1:45:13I want everybody to get paid all the money in the world.
- 1:45:15Dude, I like, I don't want anybody to ever like not have
- 1:45:17money, so I root for that. But bro, you give him all this
- 1:45:21money and you act like he's Aaron Judge.
- 1:45:23You act like he's Barry Bonds. He's not.
- 1:45:24He's a, he's a 260 something, 270 hitter who doesn't do well
- 1:45:30with the glove. And there's a million guys in
- 1:45:34baseball with his stats. Like we have a million guys in
- 1:45:36our generation who have the stats.
- 1:45:38You don't even know their names because they were average stats
- 1:45:40for us. And so like I, I just think it's
- 1:45:42so overrated. Part of it is, and, and maybe so
- 1:45:46does the guy that I'm picking on with this.
- 1:45:48Part of it is, is we, we make you believe that that is elite.
- 1:45:57We make you believe that those numbers are elite, that that's
- 1:45:59what it takes to be elite when to me that's average, right.
- 1:46:03And so I think we're teaching the next generation and this
- 1:46:07current generation that you don't have to be very good for
- 1:46:10us to consider great. And if we if that's setting the
- 1:46:13bar for greatness, then our future doesn't look very bright.
- 1:46:17He's not as good to me as what people think he is.
- 1:46:19And and I don't even think it's debatable.
- 1:46:21I agree with you and part of it, the game has changed you.
- 1:46:24You don't have to, like you said earlier, you hit 300, you're
- 1:46:26going to be in the conversation for the batting title.
- 1:46:30And I think that's where it's changed.
- 1:46:32I mean, if you, if you look at his, you know, his last five
- 1:46:34years, it's two, 3246236275. 288 and 2:58 so.
- 1:46:40Nothing to like write home about where, you know, 10 years ago.
- 1:46:44That's a whole we're having a whole different story about
- 1:46:46this. I mean, obviously it's on base
- 1:46:48percentage. He's a below average outfielder.
- 1:46:51Let's I mean, let's we're not and it's not like we're talking
- 1:46:53shit. We're just we're we're saying
- 1:46:55what it is. And I think because the game has
- 1:46:58changed in certain directions and, and certain dynamics of how
- 1:47:03people are portrayed were now it's so analytical and his war
- 1:47:06plus and his on base percentage quantified to the extreme that
- 1:47:10they are now to show the ability of the type of player that they
- 1:47:14really are. I I wouldn't say he's overhyped
- 1:47:17by any means. I think obviously his plate
- 1:47:20discipline, he's, he's going to get on base.
- 1:47:22He's he's going to hit, hit you 260-5270 somewhere in there.
- 1:47:27He's going to play an average at best outfield.
- 1:47:32And I think there's there's certain things and you know,
- 1:47:35it's my son's. Do we forget what he did in the
- 1:47:38playoffs last year? Do we forget what he's done in
- 1:47:40the playoffs before? This guy is a career over 300
- 1:47:43hitter in the playoffs. And that's when you're that's
- 1:47:45where you get your money. That's where you get paid.
- 1:47:47Did you see what he did against Cleveland?
- 1:47:50Did you in the American League Championship?
- 1:47:52He's a career 281 hitter. That's right.
- 1:47:54It doesn't matter if he's a career.
- 1:47:56You said 300. Whatever, It doesn't really
- 1:47:58matter. It takes a team to get to the
- 1:48:00playoffs. It takes a team to win.
- 1:48:02Yeah. OK.
- 1:48:02So we had a good couple weeks of the.
- 1:48:04Here was the reason why the Yankees went to the World
- 1:48:07Series, was he not? Was he the one that hit that
- 1:48:09home run that put the Yankees in the World Series?
- 1:48:13Was there? Somebody on base?
- 1:48:14What do you mean? Was there somebody on base?
- 1:48:17Was there somebody on base? I, I guess there was, I don't
- 1:48:19remember. I just, I just remember the
- 1:48:21shot. I remember his.
- 1:48:23Home run winning the game, but but for his teammates getting on
- 1:48:26base and giving him the opportunity, does he get a
- 1:48:29chance to be that hero? Anybody could be good for two
- 1:48:31weeks, right? A good time to be good for sure
- 1:48:33in the postseason. But like I said, I mean, I don't
- 1:48:35know, man. I just need more consistency if
- 1:48:37we're going to put him as the top 345 guy in the game and and,
- 1:48:42and pay him like he's the best player in the game.
- 1:48:44And and it's it's it's a nice thing.
- 1:48:47My Yankee fans are not sure I met fans.
- 1:48:49What are we crying about? He is doing right now what he's
- 1:48:52done his whole career outside of his second year in baseball.
- 1:48:55And let's go back and look at that team and talk about who am
- 1:48:58I going to pitch to when you have that loaded team and I got
- 1:49:02this kid coming up in his second year, Guess what you're getting
- 1:49:04all fastballs down the middle. I have time to waste time with
- 1:49:07you Soto when I got all those other guys right, so he's going
- 1:49:09to get more pitches to hit anyways.
- 1:49:11But I don't know, man, I just I just to say that he's on that
- 1:49:19level. I just, I completely disagree.
- 1:49:21Now, does he have a lot of great qualities and a lot of things
- 1:49:24that he can do for sure. And can he go out there
- 1:49:26potentially hit 350 with 40? Yeah, No, I think he's very
- 1:49:29capable. Will he do it?
- 1:49:30No, he's never done it. I don't know.
- 1:49:32I just, I, I think it's, it's, it's it's I don't know.
- 1:49:35I don't know. He shouldn't be in the
- 1:49:36conversation. And for the Mets fans to to
- 1:49:39snivel about anything. He's doing exactly what he's
- 1:49:41always done. So you're you're getting what
- 1:49:43you what you thought you were getting outside of we overly
- 1:49:47hyped them to make you guys think that he's doing what Aaron
- 1:49:49Judge is doing and he's he's not that he's not Ohtani and so be
- 1:49:54happy. But like it adds depth, it adds
- 1:49:56protection. Peter longs would definitely
- 1:49:57benefited the first half for it. But now what I mean, I don't
- 1:50:02even know how to to put this in, but they're winning because
- 1:50:05their pitching was amazing, both starting and relieving.
- 1:50:09Offense has not been good all year.
- 1:50:11Now all of a sudden the pitching's dead.
- 1:50:13Soto's unconscious right now and they're losing more games than
- 1:50:17ever. So how does that tie to helping
- 1:50:19that team win? Yeah.
- 1:50:21So I wanted to ask about the another team that spent a lot of
- 1:50:24money this offseason that the Dodgers with the deferred money,
- 1:50:26that whole controversy, obviously, oh, Tiny got the 600
- 1:50:28million and it was deferred money and then they kept going.
- 1:50:32Do you think that's something that should be changed across
- 1:50:34baseball? Is it a problem for it or is it
- 1:50:35just the Dodgers being like that crazy?
- 1:50:38No, it's something we've done for decades.
- 1:50:40Everybody's done this. We've all always done it.
- 1:50:42Frank Thomas did this. Frank Thomas did for like 30
- 1:50:44million which is a ton of money back then when you're signing.
- 1:50:47Hey, today's Bobby Bonilla Day. Yeah, but like everybody,
- 1:50:51deferred money, if this is not new at all by any means, it just
- 1:50:57got highlighted because the Dodgers are doing it.
- 1:50:59But then the Dodgers are signing a lot of guys and everybody's
- 1:51:01getting pissed, the Dodgers for signing all these guys.
- 1:51:03So then we're looking at things to bang them for, but not
- 1:51:05deferred money's nothing new in our game.
- 1:51:07It's been going on for decades. It's smart by players, by the
- 1:51:12way, super smart, especially when you can make 20 million a
- 1:51:15season just to just to see if we like the guy.
- 1:51:18I mean, that's after 20 million. You're sitting pretty good for
- 1:51:21the rest of your life. So for players, for money, I
- 1:51:24just think it's brilliant. I mean, look at Ohtani, look at
- 1:51:26Max Scherzer. The soon as they retire for the
- 1:51:29next 15 years, 20 years, they're going to have 20-30 million
- 1:51:33coming in this season. Like it's beautiful.
- 1:51:35It's brilliant by those guys. Playing with Max and, and
- 1:51:37getting to know Max, I played him against him in college and
- 1:51:40obviously played with him in the big leagues.
- 1:51:42But yeah, he was like, I'll take less money.
- 1:51:45I don't need to get paid much. He got, I think he got a $50
- 1:51:47million bonus and he's like, you could pay me 10 million a year.
- 1:51:51I don't care. And he deferred it for like, I
- 1:51:52think 12 years. And he's like, I don't need to
- 1:51:55get paid 50 million a year. There's other people that look
- 1:51:58at it this way too, where it's like the faster I get it, the
- 1:52:00faster I invest it. But then if I can't live off 12
- 1:52:02million after I'm done, I still invested that I didn't spend it.
- 1:52:06And now I get to sit at home, sit at the crib with the kids,
- 1:52:09play, and next thing you know, I get a check.
- 1:52:11I'll just use Bobby Benny a day. Oh, here's, here's a 7 figure
- 1:52:14check. Now they're 8 figure checks. 8
- 1:52:17figures bro. He's got like deferred money
- 1:52:19from like 3 different teams coming like he's I I used him as
- 1:52:22an example that we're talking. It's funny, I use him as an
- 1:52:25example today. I'm like Max Scherzer is just
- 1:52:27had those brilliant contracts of all time for what he's done for
- 1:52:32his future. But, you know, some people blow
- 1:52:33their money. Some people are very good with
- 1:52:36their money. So it works both ways.
- 1:52:38But you get a lot of money at once.
- 1:52:40And then money stops coming in and in the middle of it,
- 1:52:42depending on how smart you are, you know, you don't look at
- 1:52:44price tags. You just go spend.
- 1:52:45We fight over thousands of dollars of dinner.
- 1:52:48I got it. I got it all fighting and stuff,
- 1:52:50you know, and it's like, it's no big deal.
- 1:52:52And then one day it stops. And if you hadn't made a ton of
- 1:52:55money, it becomes a little bit different place for you.
- 1:52:59So when you make a ton, it's OK. But to now live off potentially
- 1:53:04less money raised to a lot of money.
- 1:53:06And then to have that money coming in every year for years
- 1:53:09and years and years after retire.
- 1:53:11Like it gets to a point where you've done it all, spent it
- 1:53:14all. And now you, you start to budget
- 1:53:17and become a lot smarter with when you what you want to do.
- 1:53:19And interesting. Like Musina Moose was the only
- 1:53:22new job. And I don't know if you've ever
- 1:53:23heard of this before. I don't know why we didn't do
- 1:53:25this, but Moose was the only dude who got paid over 365.
- 1:53:29All of us got paid over six months.
- 1:53:31Moose got paid over 365, which I thought was brilliant because
- 1:53:34then it makes you learn how to structure and budget money a lot
- 1:53:37better and you got money coming the offseason.
- 1:53:39And I'm like, why don't we all do that?
- 1:53:41Like that's that's the way to go right there.
- 1:53:43Yeah, there's, there's a few people that did that.
- 1:53:45He he deferred. I think he deferred for I think
- 1:53:48it was like 3 or five years I think from his last contract.
- 1:53:52But yeah, he, he, he always took that option.
- 1:53:56And I, I think a lot of people really didn't know if you could
- 1:53:58or not. And I.
- 1:53:59Think I never heard of it until I heard Mike do it.
- 1:54:01Yeah, and I think a lot of people were under the the
- 1:54:03premise too. It's like a lot of people and
- 1:54:05you know, it's your agents and your, your financial people, the
- 1:54:08faster you invested. So it's like, yeah, you're going
- 1:54:10to take more. But then it's like, OK, there's
- 1:54:12nothing coming. And it's, there's so many ways
- 1:54:14to look at it. I I think the deferred money's
- 1:54:17brilliant. I do too.
- 1:54:18And if you and it's it's been going on, there's so many people
- 1:54:21still getting paid. Griffey was the highest paid
- 1:54:23dude on the Reds for like 4 years and played with him
- 1:54:26forever. So think about it now, dude.
- 1:54:28And I know we've been out of the game for a second, but think
- 1:54:30about it now. Like, would you not like to have
- 1:54:32a paycheck coming every two weeks right now?
- 1:54:35I do and it's nice but not as big as those ones.
- 1:54:38Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like even even if we would have
- 1:54:40cut that back in half and then now it's still coming in every
- 1:54:43two weeks like it. Yeah, it's just the structure is
- 1:54:45so much better. Yeah, it's it's completely
- 1:54:47different. We are talking to former
- 1:54:50Orioles, Blue Jays and Yankees pitcher Josh Towers.
- 1:54:53You know, Clayton Kershaw is a guy that's probably going to
- 1:54:56walk away from the game and a lot of people are going to, you
- 1:55:00know, after his career is over, what are they going to say about
- 1:55:03him? What what are they going to
- 1:55:04compare his game to? And he could go down as one of
- 1:55:08the greatest left-handed pitchers we've ever seen.
- 1:55:10When? He was that.
- 1:55:11Do you think he's good, Errol? I I for seven or eight years, I
- 1:55:15don't think there was anybody better than him.
- 1:55:16I mean he was untouchable but like.
- 1:55:19Given what you just said about Soto makes me think that you
- 1:55:21would think he sucks because he's awful in the playoffs.
- 1:55:24Well, that's fine. And but.
- 1:55:26Also also, when Clayton Kershaw was at the top of his game, the
- 1:55:29Dodgers were up and down when it came to their lineup.
- 1:55:32Their lineups were never as good as it is right now when you have
- 1:55:35Friedman on the lineup, Mookie Betts, I mean, oh, Tony, it's
- 1:55:39ridiculous. What that when when Clayton
- 1:55:41Kershaw was at the top of his game, who is their best hitter?
- 1:55:44I mean, seriously. Like camping and and.
- 1:55:47There was nobody, I mean, they, they didn't have any, any of the
- 1:55:50roster. They if Clayton Kershaw had the
- 1:55:53roster he had right now and he was at the top of his game.
- 1:55:57He wins multiple championships. Clayton Kershaw is probably the
- 1:56:00best left-handed pitcher we've seen in the last 30 years.
- 1:56:03I mean. When I was there after after O9
- 1:56:06with with the Yanks, I went to the Dodgers.
- 1:56:09He was 22 years old, bro. We usually you pull that roster,
- 1:56:12I'll talk about a roster that should have won, you know,
- 1:56:14Garrett Anderson and Manny Ramirez and Matt Camp and Andre
- 1:56:18Ether. We were loaded on that team to
- 1:56:20walk around that clubhouse on Starstruck looking at that team,
- 1:56:23dude 22 years old and he was our leader, bro.
- 1:56:26He everybody just followed CK everybody he led by example,
- 1:56:31kind of had this Roy Holiday quality to him.
- 1:56:34Like, it's amazing that a kid that young on a team like that
- 1:56:38had that much respect from an early age.
- 1:56:40I mean, it's just, it's part of why he's so damn good.
- 1:56:43But no, he's one of the best pitchers not only just our
- 1:56:46generation, but like ever. He's so good bro.
- 1:56:49That's crazy. That's that's why, because I, I
- 1:56:52want to ask from a, you know, a picture standpoint we have Nick
- 1:56:55Goody is on the show all the time.
- 1:56:56I asked him off, said congratulations to Nick.
- 1:56:59He was working with the Guardians this weekend, did his
- 1:57:01play by play. It was fantastic.
- 1:57:03But Nick, I asked Nick Goody offset, I said, what, what do
- 1:57:07you see Clayton Kershaw being remembered as?
- 1:57:09I mean, obviously his greatness for the 7-8 years of his
- 1:57:12dominance, but what is he going to be remembered?
- 1:57:14Because the World Series that he won, he wasn't really even a big
- 1:57:17name or a big part of those World Series championships that
- 1:57:20he's won, the 2 championships that he's he's won over the last
- 1:57:24couple of years. So what is he remembered as?
- 1:57:26And he said dominant. He was the dominant pitcher in
- 1:57:30the major leagues. I don't think anybody can argue
- 1:57:32that. So that's my question to you.
- 1:57:34Another guy that I want to get into is Carlos Rodon.
- 1:57:37Everybody's taking shots. Yankee fans have taken shots at
- 1:57:40this contract when obviously, yes, Brian Cashman gave him the
- 1:57:44money that he gave him. And I thought he underpaid a guy
- 1:57:47like Carlos Rodon. And Carlos Rodon is having a
- 1:57:50great season. If you look at his numbers right
- 1:57:51now, he's nine and five, 2.95 ERA, 123 strikeouts in his WHIP
- 1:57:57is 1. Why does why does everybody hate
- 1:58:00on this guy now? He's inconsistent, but when he
- 1:58:02is on, he's one of the best pitchers in baseball.
- 1:58:04Let me jump back real quick. In his career, Clayton's 216 and
- 1:58:0894 is win percentage. I mean, it's insanely dominant.
- 1:58:12I don't know what I think about Rodon, right?
- 1:58:13Like he was literally like a like a good night's sleep away
- 1:58:17from being out of baseball and being done.
- 1:58:20And then the White Sox bring them back because I think he had
- 1:58:22no offers. And then he goes out and puts a
- 1:58:24healthy, phenomenal season where it showed off why he was a high
- 1:58:29round pick. And if I'm not mistaken, I think
- 1:58:30he was rushed to past the development stage or some sort
- 1:58:33of the struggles factored into the big leagues and then he
- 1:58:36didn't have any offers. I think it was.
- 1:58:38So he signs back with the White Sox and part of that like it's
- 1:58:42beautiful because now it's personal.
- 1:58:43Now it's like, oh, no one thinks I'm any good.
- 1:58:45And it's like, yeah, your past wasn't very good and it was full
- 1:58:48of injuries. So, yeah, no, we're good, dude.
- 1:58:50And then he's like, all right. So then like the perfect timing
- 1:58:53of he gets an opportunity back to the White Sox and he has
- 1:58:55something to prove. And it just shows that one good
- 1:58:58season and you can get a contract.
- 1:59:00But then I think he went to that next team.
- 1:59:02I was shocked at the contract. I thought that that it was, it
- 1:59:06was a rushed, He was 180 million.
- 1:59:09I thought it was rushed given he had the one Goodyear with the
- 1:59:11White Sox and then he had the next season and then he becomes
- 1:59:14that free agent and he was one of the guys on the market,
- 1:59:17bigger name. I thought it was a very big
- 1:59:20contract given he hadn't proved enough consistency yet in his
- 1:59:24career to be the guy. So again, I don't care what the
- 1:59:28number is to an extent, like like I said, you can give Soto
- 1:59:33$765,000,000. That doesn't make him Hank
- 1:59:36Aaron. He's that's just how much you
- 1:59:38decided to give him. He still is the guy that he is.
- 1:59:42And so 180 million doesn't necessarily mean now all of a
- 1:59:45sudden they got to go win 20 games.
- 1:59:47And, and when it's not young, he's he's, he's still better
- 1:59:51than he had consistently been his first five years.
- 1:59:54And so is he giving you a chance to win?
- 1:59:57Is he making his starts? Is he, is he doing to an extent
- 2:00:00what he should do or did you sign him with the expectations
- 2:00:04that he was going to be Max free 1st 15 starts where he couldn't
- 2:00:07be hit? Like that's not reality either.
- 2:00:09So again, I can't, you can't always let the number skew us
- 2:00:13from what the player is and what what they were doing.
- 2:00:17You have to overpay everybody these days.
- 2:00:19You got to pay. Over.
- 2:00:20Everybody, if you want to get him in New York anyways.
- 2:00:23So the price is always higher in, in in New York, that is
- 2:00:26anywhere else you need depth. And so look, I mean, look, we
- 2:00:30lost Garrett Cole. We got hurt.
- 2:00:31Like we're not invincible. And you can never have enough
- 2:00:34pitchers. The Dodgers have the worst
- 2:00:36throwing program. Whoever's running that needs to
- 2:00:38be fired 30 times. Crazy.
- 2:00:41Don't tell them that because they think.
- 2:00:42They're just geniuses after all the things they've done.
- 2:00:47Every player in the world gets hurt on that team.
- 2:00:48There's no way whoever's running that.
- 2:00:50That's the biggest joke of all time, because it's been like
- 2:00:52that. But that's why they got to sign
- 2:00:53everybody, because everybody. Gets hurt.
- 2:00:55I mean, who doesn't like Tyler? Glass now, I mean.
- 2:00:58He's felt like Glass. His last name is Glass now,
- 2:01:01Tyler Glass now, and that guy. They've used the most starting
- 2:01:05pitching this year. They've used 16 starters.
- 2:01:07It's ridiculous. It's.
- 2:01:09Bro, we just started to sign. It's insane.
- 2:01:11Like this is crazy that everybody gets hurt like that.
- 2:01:14And to me, there's four non negotiables, man.
- 2:01:17It's your phone program, it's your core, it's your running and
- 2:01:19it's your cuff leads. And I like, I'm going to assume
- 2:01:22they're doing none of those four.
- 2:01:23That's what I think is like, I've never seen a team get hurt
- 2:01:26so much. But again, you need pitching
- 2:01:29like you can't just go in with five or six guys and think
- 2:01:32that's going to work. And then whatever you have in
- 2:01:33the minor leagues, but it's always what makes the Yankees so
- 2:01:36brilliant. And I've had this conversation
- 2:01:38with people too. It's like, you know, to be a
- 2:01:40minor league free agent guy like myself.
- 2:01:42And it's like, yo, I got I got 2.
- 2:01:43I got a couple options. One of them is like the Yankees
- 2:01:46and one of them is the Marlins. And I'm thinking about starting
- 2:01:48with the Marlins. And I'm like, no, no, no, that's
- 2:01:50not what you want to do. And like, what do you mean?
- 2:01:51Like it's an easier path to the big leagues?
- 2:01:53And it's like, no, I got it. Seems like it.
- 2:01:55But no, it's not. The Marlins are just going to
- 2:01:57use their guys because they're not really going to use us.
- 2:01:59We're minor league death. The Yankees will use everybody.
- 2:02:02They don't care. They just care about winning.
- 2:02:05And if you have any experience in the big leagues, and I'm an
- 2:02:08example of of them using them like they're go, they would
- 2:02:11rather do that and have a person that they can bring up and use
- 2:02:15for one day or one week that's going to give them the best
- 2:02:18chance of winning right now because that's all it is, is can
- 2:02:21we win today's game job in that clubhouse?
- 2:02:24I never heard anybody talk about anything except how do we win
- 2:02:28today? Everybody collectively talked
- 2:02:30about how we can win today's game and it meant nothing else
- 2:02:33meant anything. And so the Yankees do that.
- 2:02:35They like our 24th, 5th guy was me, Chad Gordan, Sergio Mitre,
- 2:02:42like it's like your 25th, 24th, 23rd guys on it like 6 years in
- 2:02:46the big leagues. That's a good place to be when
- 2:02:48it comes to depth. And so the Yankees, they they do
- 2:02:51this stuff where they bring all these guys and you got Alan
- 2:02:53Winans now is one of them. And, and they do whatever they
- 2:02:56can do to win. But it just also shows you you
- 2:02:57cannot have enough pitching. I do not care.
- 2:03:00It's it's a tough thing. So you know, you can.
- 2:03:03I was shocked at the Orioles. Bro how do you I'm not.
- 2:03:07Eflin and and and who Kyle Gibson like I'm a fan of Kyle
- 2:03:11Gibson's, but how do you how do you let the Bourbons go?
- 2:03:14How do you not go after Freed? How do you not go after all of
- 2:03:17these dudes and load up with what you have?
- 2:03:20And they they have new ownership too.
- 2:03:23They think that they're doing good in the minor league system
- 2:03:25as far as they've had the number one rated minor league system.
- 2:03:28They think they're developing. They don't develop.
- 2:03:30They're one of the worst ever developing.
- 2:03:32They just had the first pick for so many years and they traded
- 2:03:35all these guys and took all these.
- 2:03:36So they got the stockpile of talent.
- 2:03:38But now we're seeing that none of them are developing and none
- 2:03:41of the pitchers have developed. And so it's like shows you guys
- 2:03:44didn't actually develop stockpile minor league prospects
- 2:03:47and then you have the first pick in the draft, which is pretty
- 2:03:48hard to mess up. And and so it's like it's like
- 2:03:51what happens now? And.
- 2:03:52Whenever they develop a player, they they can't sign him, they
- 2:03:56can't bring him up. Manny Machado.
- 2:03:57Look what? Look what he turned out to be.
- 2:03:59He was a superstar. And then they let him go.
- 2:04:01And where does he go? He goes to San Diego and.
- 2:04:04You see what they got for Manny Machado.
- 2:04:06Yeah, I saw what they got, but how?
- 2:04:08What have they won? None of them.
- 2:04:09None of them were left. None of them.
- 2:04:10None of them. What are the Padres get for Juan
- 2:04:16Soto? Like it's like, how do you mess
- 2:04:19that up? You got like 6 dudes and the guy
- 2:04:22they wanted more than anything in the world that was off
- 2:04:24limits. Then the Off Limits guy was
- 2:04:26Gavin Lux and there was all these other dudes that were
- 2:04:31there they could have chose from that are stars.
- 2:04:34Before we let you go, I want you.
- 2:04:36I want you guys both. Of you I.
- 2:04:40Was getting my golf clap. This is ridiculous.
- 2:04:42No, no, no golf clap. Josh, get your thumb out of your
- 2:04:45ass. I got to ask you a question.
- 2:04:47Is there a particular story that you can tell us about Jabba?
- 2:04:50When you first or you met Jabba or you played with Jabba?
- 2:04:54Is there a funny story that you have about?
- 2:04:56Jabba ain't funny to him. It'd be funny to me.
- 2:04:58Every time I hear Jabba's name, this is all I think about.
- 2:05:01Jim Palmer's our TV Guide for the Orioles and Jim's great
- 2:05:04right Hall of Fame guy. And but Jim, you know, he was
- 2:05:07the jockey guy. No, sure.
- 2:05:08You know, he thinks that, you know, he's still in his head.
- 2:05:10He thinks he's super, super famous and he might be in some
- 2:05:13worlds and I love it. That's his ego.
- 2:05:15It's him, but he's a nice guy. So I I think it's great.
- 2:05:18And and you know, there's certain things in your career,
- 2:05:21your life that are said to you and it's usually by people that
- 2:05:23are not that close to you, because people close to us are
- 2:05:25afraid to say the right thing and fear they might have our
- 2:05:27feelings. And so Jim would always, I would
- 2:05:31always hear it down the hall, throw your change up, throw your
- 2:05:34change up. And he would always yell at me
- 2:05:35to throw my change up. You know, I got to force you to
- 2:05:37use it more. You would have good
- 2:05:39conversations with him because the intelligent guy, he would
- 2:05:41always mix himself into the conversation.
- 2:05:43Don't get me wrong, because he likes stock by himself in O 9
- 2:05:46where the Orioles and Jim's the guy that'll just say whatever he
- 2:05:52wants because in his head he's Jim Palmer.
- 2:05:54And I've never he was in the like tunnel and he went to go
- 2:05:59say something to Jabba about something.
- 2:06:01Same thing he would say to me. And he went to go say something
- 2:06:03to Jabba and Jabba's like, yeah, Jim, we know no one gives a
- 2:06:07shit. And he walked away.
- 2:06:08I just to me it was the funniest thing in the world because I
- 2:06:11know Jim so well to hear Jabba just blow his ass off and keep
- 2:06:16walking. And Jim was only in his head
- 2:06:18trying to give like good advice and Jabba just told him where to
- 2:06:21go. And I was like quietly dying
- 2:06:23laughing because known him so well.
- 2:06:26It's like, is it everybody else? Not the best, but to me I've
- 2:06:28always, it always stood out man. To me, I don't know if you
- 2:06:31remember something as simple as that, but it was great.
- 2:06:34That sounds like job it was, right?
- 2:06:36I'll tell you mine before we let him go.
- 2:06:38Josh, my debut was when you hit a rod in the clear benches
- 2:06:41twice. That was your debut?
- 2:06:43What? Fuck dudes like that.
- 2:06:45That should have been headed weeks before that.
- 2:06:47These guys know the story. But Major League Baseball steps
- 2:06:49in and was like, oh, you can't hit him.
- 2:06:50I'm like, you're going to escalate this.
- 2:06:52We've had this issue a million times Yeah, that was fun dude.
- 2:06:55Remember like so and everyone like now every knows but yes, we
- 2:07:00cleared the second time was because I went at Tony pain
- 2:07:02Yeah, Alex thought I was going to him.
- 2:07:03I was going to Tony because Tony.
- 2:07:04I know well and the first time was it's my first, it's my first
- 2:07:08day. I got the bubble guts.
- 2:07:09I had to take a shit. And so I was, I was on when you
- 2:07:14cleared the first time I heard it, I was literally getting off
- 2:07:18the Cam and like, I'm running out because, you know, the
- 2:07:21visiting, you got to go out and then run down.
- 2:07:23So I'm like trying to run and put my stuff together.
- 2:07:26They're like, you might want to run out there.
- 2:07:28I was like, oh, this is a great first impression.
- 2:07:29Yeah. Sweet.
- 2:07:31Yeah, Well, yeah, you got a second time, too.
- 2:07:34Brian Wolf also was making his Major League debut that day as
- 2:07:37well. For us, he came in.
- 2:07:39Oh, sorry, I backtracked. That was the first time we
- 2:07:41should have. Allenton ended it when Brian
- 2:07:43made his Major League debut and he was asked to hit him and he
- 2:07:47didn't do it because it was his debut and he was too nervous to
- 2:07:49do it. That's interesting.
- 2:07:51So, you know, obviously when I was with you guys, I'm in the
- 2:07:53bullpen and we're in New York and we here it is, we're
- 2:07:56fighting again, Johnny Maggots hit or whatever.
- 2:07:58It is a fight. And I'm running out with Mariano
- 2:08:00in slow motion because I was like, MO, I should be in a Blue
- 2:08:02Jays uniform right now and Mogos, hey, just jog slow.
- 2:08:07And I was like, you're the best dude.
- 2:08:08It's like the slowest walk ever. So I didn't have to get involved
- 2:08:11in a fight wearing a Yu when I was part of what started that
- 2:08:15whole shit thing that lasted 4 years.
- 2:08:17Wow started it but. I think the golf clap of the day
- 2:08:19has to be Jabba saying he had the bubble guts.
- 2:08:24And those nerves are like, you can't duplicate those feelings
- 2:08:27anywhere else in the world. I don't care, man.
- 2:08:29Like this something that just takes over.
- 2:08:31And it's that's what I'm saying about all this rush stuff,
- 2:08:34rushing these guys to the big leagues.
- 2:08:36We're putting them in a situation you don't realize what
- 2:08:39you're feeling and how long it takes to to calm that down and
- 2:08:43be able to do your job when you're feeling something you've
- 2:08:46never felt before. Because there's nothing else
- 2:08:49that that gets to it. And now you got to figure out
- 2:08:51how to get rid of all this adrenaline and look at yourself
- 2:08:55as an equal and not look at, holy shit, that's Derek Jeter.
- 2:08:58And look at, oh, there's a hole here and a hole here.
- 2:09:00And he does this in this county, likes to do this.
- 2:09:02And this dude takes a long time. And those nerds are real.
- 2:09:06Well, I'll tell you what my golf clap of the day goes to you for
- 2:09:10joining us for joining us okay, Josh, we love you.
- 2:09:14We do we love you man, we love what you do you do so many great
- 2:09:18things to reach out to your son tell your son we love him and
- 2:09:22keep up the good workout I'm. Looking forward.
- 2:09:24To seeing him, you know, get back into, you know, baseball
- 2:09:27and pitching and getting. East East Carolina, he'll be
- 2:09:30there. He was there on that team and
- 2:09:31they're a good program, so he'll be there.
- 2:09:33Maybe, maybe we'll link your son and Jabba's son together.
- 2:09:36How about that? Place now where's he at?
- 2:09:37What's going on with that? He's a sophomore.
- 2:09:40He he's at Hutch right now. Oh, nice.
- 2:09:42OK. Yeah, he was.
- 2:09:43He was a two way and then wanted to figure it out and then so he
- 2:09:46just got a PRP in his elbow so. So we've had that done too.
- 2:09:50Yeah, yeah, yeah. Does he throw fuzz?
- 2:09:51He's. Like 1994.
- 2:09:54So they're about the same. Yeah.
- 2:09:56Nice. Yeah, 656-5210 it's.
- 2:10:01A beautiful frame, Your last name.
- 2:10:05How about Java? Did you think you had a
- 2:10:06beautiful frame wide? That's all right, as long as
- 2:10:13you're hiding the ball and it sneaks up and it works good.
- 2:10:15Java is a beast. Could you imagine Josh Towers?
- 2:10:20You know, he's in a dugout, goes up to job is as man.
- 2:10:23You got a beautiful frame. I've I've heard worse.
- 2:10:28Trust me, Josh. We love you, man.
- 2:10:32We love. You.
- 2:10:33I love you. Thank you.
- 2:10:34Absolutely, Josh. Good to see you, Josh.
- 2:10:40What a beautiful frame. I love Josh.
- 2:10:43You know why? Because his personality, he he's
- 2:10:46just very, very funny. He's very fluent and he doesn't
- 2:10:49give a crap. He will say whatever he wants is
- 2:10:52he's just like Jabba. No wonder why they click.
- 2:10:55I mean it when when it came back and and the bubble, what would
- 2:10:58he call it? Bubble guts, Bubble guts.
- 2:11:02Jabba, I expect that to be your the most used sound bite of
- 2:11:05yours next week. And those things are real, man.
- 2:11:08Bubble guts. Beautiful frame, I'm sorry,
- 2:11:15beautiful frame, I'm sorry. That was funny when he said.
- 2:11:19You definitely, definitely get fish to make a graphic.
- 2:11:22What is the most beautiful frame for you?
- 2:11:25I said why? UFC 317 featured 2 main event
- 2:11:32championship fights, both ending in under 3 minutes.
- 2:11:36In the flyweight championship fight, Alexander Upon Toha
- 2:11:40defended his title by beating Kai Kara Franzau with a rear
- 2:11:46naked chokehold. By the way, fantastic finish.
- 2:11:49When you get a chance to watch somebody put a rear naked
- 2:11:51chokehold, it's it's really in mixed martial arts now.
- 2:11:54It's almost impossible. You don't see that anymore
- 2:11:57despite being ranked #9 in the UFC rankings, Pantola said He is
- 2:12:03no doubt a top 4 fighter in the UFC.
- 2:12:07After that win, the lightweight championship match, Ela Tupara
- 2:12:11knocked out Charles Olivera, which by the way, was one of the
- 2:12:14most unbelievable knockouts I've seen in a long time, just in 2
- 2:12:19minutes and 27 seconds into the fight.
- 2:12:21And by the way, before the fight, he actually told
- 2:12:24everybody he predicted he was going to knock him out in the
- 2:12:27first round, which is unbelievable.
- 2:12:29So that that by itself is a crazy, crazy story.
- 2:12:34So Ilya became one of just 10 UFC fighters ever to win a
- 2:12:41championship belt in two different weight classes.
- 2:12:43After becoming champion, Ilya is likely to fight Armand so
- 2:12:48Yukiyan and Justin Gagee or maybe even Patty Piblet to
- 2:12:54defend his title. And Ilya says he would like to
- 2:12:57fight Patty. I would love to see Ilya and
- 2:13:00Patty fight. I, I, I think that he doesn't
- 2:13:03deserve a fight right now. Who?
- 2:13:05Patty. No, he just sells fights.
- 2:13:08He doesn't. He's he's #8 you don't give an 8
- 2:13:11guy against him. Yeah, but that's what only
- 2:13:12person in two weight classes to be undefeated.
- 2:13:15No chance to say that. Say that about Conor McGregor.
- 2:13:17And when it comes to putting, yeah, no, I get it.
- 2:13:19I understand. He's he's 2 point O First of
- 2:13:22all, I think Topuria right now is the number one ranking
- 2:13:25fighter right now in the UFCI. Think now after not knocking
- 2:13:28Charles Olivera. Olivera was in the top five, top
- 2:13:316 even with some of the latest losses that Olivera has had.
- 2:13:36Olivera has been one of the top five fighters the UFC has had in
- 2:13:40a very long time and knockout fighter.
- 2:13:43Mixed martial artists can take you down.
- 2:13:46Wrestling, jiu jitsu, black belt.
- 2:13:48I mean, Charles Olivera is a great fighter, but the way Ilia
- 2:13:52just knocked him out the way he did with two minutes and 27
- 2:13:55seconds into the fight was just absolutely incredible.
- 2:13:58And it says a lot about who he is as a fighter because when he
- 2:14:02comes out, there are a lot of fighters that come out and say,
- 2:14:04oh, I'm going to do this, I'm going to do that and never do
- 2:14:06that. As we all know, Conor McGregor
- 2:14:08for years has done things and said things that never came to
- 2:14:11fruition. But I this guy is as a dominant
- 2:14:14as a fighter. We've seen really since I I
- 2:14:17would say Jon Jones. I mean Jon Jones, who, by the
- 2:14:20way, just retired recently and he's I don't think he's ever
- 2:14:23going to come back again. It's pretty obviously that he's
- 2:14:25not. But Ilia, what he did on
- 2:14:29Saturday night just shows you why the UFC has been looking for
- 2:14:33a superstar fighter to to move forward with and he is that guy
- 2:14:36now. Is he going to stay in those
- 2:14:38weight classes? Which class is he going to stay
- 2:14:40in? And it it being that he has
- 2:14:42dominated his weight class. Does he move up in weight class?
- 2:14:46Does he move up maybe 2-2 weights two classes to to fight
- 2:14:50event that gets better competition?
- 2:14:52I obviously he's in a, in a weight class right now that he
- 2:14:55has been really the best fighter in it and maybe he dips TO155150
- 2:15:01now that's a lot of weight. I, I think right now he would
- 2:15:04have to dip. What is it 15 lbs?
- 2:15:06I'm not I'm not quite sure. Let's get Jake in here because
- 2:15:09Jake is the big UFC guy and I, I, I know Jake has followed a
- 2:15:13lot of UFC fights. I'm sure he watched this card
- 2:15:17317. I watched bits and pieces.
- 2:15:19I watched the final fight. I watched bits and pieces of the
- 2:15:22rear naked chokehold, which you don't see in in the way, did
- 2:15:26you? Did you not see the best fight
- 2:15:28of the night? What are you talking about?
- 2:15:29Which one? Which one is that Joshua Van and
- 2:15:31Brandon Rival? Well, with the, Yeah, that.
- 2:15:33I was going to say Java, thank you for that.
- 2:15:35Friend of Joshua Vaughn was. Honestly it was probably fight
- 2:15:39of the night. I know Ilya's knockout of
- 2:15:40Charles was fantastic. They did, they did.
- 2:15:42They won Fight of the Night. Yeah, Alexandra Pantogia against
- 2:15:46Kaikar France like Pantogia put on a fantastic performance as
- 2:15:49well, but that fight Brandon Rival and Joshua Vaughn was so.
- 2:15:53Bad. They didn't.
- 2:15:53They didn't stop. No.
- 2:15:55I was exhausted and they were just taking licks too.
- 2:15:59And it was non-stop. It was it was so fun to watch.
- 2:16:01I just watched I didn't, I didn't watch the the I only
- 2:16:05watched the final two fights of the main card.
- 2:16:07I didn't watch the whole card, the whole 5 fight card.
- 2:16:10I didn't even watch the preliminaries.
- 2:16:12I I didn't get a chance because I was DJ ING that night and I
- 2:16:15was pretty much working. So I was watching it on my
- 2:16:17phone. But I, I wanted to watch the
- 2:16:19Oliveira fight because Ilya, you know, this fight was being, you
- 2:16:24know, graded as one of the best fights the UF CS put together
- 2:16:27and probably the last five cards.
- 2:16:29And this wasn't even a fight. I mean, in 2 minutes, Ilia just
- 2:16:33pretty much dominated the fight 2 minutes and Charles Olivera
- 2:16:38has never been knocked out like that ever.
- 2:16:40I've never seen Charles Olivera just completely get his ass
- 2:16:43knocked out the way he did. So it was incredible.
- 2:16:47That was an incredible show, show of just dominating and and
- 2:16:51why he's probably the best pound for pound fighter right now the
- 2:16:54UFC has. I mean, who's better than him
- 2:16:56right now? Who's better than no he?
- 2:16:58He is number one right now. No, Yeah, right.
- 2:17:00Rightfully so. And you're definitely right,
- 2:17:02Errol. I think like, that's what was so
- 2:17:03crazy about. It's like Charles Olivera has
- 2:17:05been taken down before, but never like that.
- 2:17:07Just absolutely slept like Ilia is punching power.
- 2:17:10Like I know everyone was thinking like, oh, is he really
- 2:17:13going to be able to hang at 1:55 and is he going to have that
- 2:17:16same power? And there's no doubt at all
- 2:17:19after that after knocking out Charles Oliver, sleeping him
- 2:17:22like the KO victory like that. I was absolutely phenomenal.
- 2:17:25And I know, I know you said you didn't watch this fight, but I
- 2:17:27just got to show you this this clip really quick.
- 2:17:29The ending of this of Roy Val and Vaughn, like this fight was
- 2:17:32absolutely this ending was so like it's such a breakneck pace.
- 2:17:37It was a phenomenal fight. They were just going at each
- 2:17:39other the entire night, putting on a show for the fans.
- 2:17:41Like this is definitely one fight of the year.
- 2:17:43You should definitely check this out.
- 2:17:44Errol. This is like the last I'll watch
- 2:17:47the card. But it was it was so close back
- 2:17:49and forth and you know it right here at the OR close grand Roy
- 2:17:53Val was was tagging Joshua Vaughn, but Vaughn was answering
- 2:17:56right back. And it gets almost to a photo
- 2:17:58finish near the end here where Joshua Vaughn almost finishes
- 2:18:02the fight. But you know, Brandon Roy Val
- 2:18:04just hung around the entire time and they bloodied the hell out
- 2:18:07of each other. And it was.
- 2:18:08And it was this pace the entire time.
- 2:18:10Oh my God, yeah. They never, they never stopped.
- 2:18:12They never is a breakneck pace the entire fight.
- 2:18:14Did you, did you see him keep slipping too?
- 2:18:16I didn't know if that was like sweat or like what, because he
- 2:18:20kept. Yeah, I don't know, I I think it
- 2:18:21might it maybe it was the canvas because like they were going
- 2:18:24really fast. Like there wasn't too much
- 2:18:25blood. I mean, they were bleeding
- 2:18:26definitely. So it wasn't from the previous
- 2:18:28fights, but it must have been just from previously, like right
- 2:18:31there. Like it was almost finished by
- 2:18:32Joshua Fond. Like he was right.
- 2:18:34And Brandon Warval was like trying to do everything he could
- 2:18:36to scramble and just make sure he can make it because, you
- 2:18:38know, like 10 seconds right there left like that.
- 2:18:40Finally, me and my brother or my brother, he had a bad head on
- 2:18:44for the fight to just go to the decision and right there, like
- 2:18:47Joshua Vaughn takes down Brandon.
- 2:18:49We're about 5-6 seconds left there.
- 2:18:51Like, Oh my God, like it might really end here.
- 2:18:53Like a photo finish. I will say this, I I'm going to
- 2:18:56get a chance to watch the whole card.
- 2:18:58I'll probably not tonight, but over the weekend I'll get a
- 2:19:01chance to watch 317 again. I the the fight that I wanted to
- 2:19:05watch. I want to watch Elia and I
- 2:19:06wanted to watch Charles. Olivera is one of my favorite
- 2:19:08fighters. I've always rooted for Charles
- 2:19:10because he's such a likable person and so very well, well,
- 2:19:13well respected in the UFC. He doesn't go out there and talk
- 2:19:16crap. He goes out there and fights and
- 2:19:18even when they were doing the weigh insurance, how respectful
- 2:19:21both of these guys are to one another.
- 2:19:23You didn't when Elia knocked him, knocked him out.
- 2:19:26He actually, after he knocked him out, he wanted to make sure
- 2:19:29that he was OK because he was worried about Charles Oliveri
- 2:19:32getting knocked out the way he did.
- 2:19:33So it just shows you the type of respect these two guys have for
- 2:19:37one another. And yeah, I, I think Gili is the
- 2:19:40best pound for pound fighter right now the UFC has to offer.
- 2:19:42But that says a lot about who he is.
- 2:19:45This guy, if you remember when he came into the UFC, he had to
- 2:19:49work his way up to the top and the UFC never gave him any, any
- 2:19:54light, you know, lightweight all the way to the top.
- 2:19:57He had to earn his way to the top.
- 2:19:59When you, when you talk about Conor McGregor, Conor McGregor,
- 2:20:01when he came into the UFC, it took maybe 3 or 4 fights before
- 2:20:05the UFC and obviously Dana White fell in love with him and then
- 2:20:09he was moving up and ranking so fast.
- 2:20:12This guy, it took him a while to get where he was and now you
- 2:20:15know, he's 2728 years old. He, he, he's unbelievable.
- 2:20:18I I honestly think right now there's nobody in the UFC that
- 2:20:23could beat this guy in three different classes.
- 2:20:25Passes, he can move up 10 more pounds, 15 more pounds.
- 2:20:29This guy is one of the best boxers, stand up fighters I've
- 2:20:32seen in a very long time really since Jon Jones.
- 2:20:35I mean, you look at Jon Jones and what he could do with his
- 2:20:37legs and throwing punches, his combination.
- 2:20:40That's what this this kid can do.
- 2:20:41I mean, he could do so many things.
- 2:20:43And by the way he trains, he does kickboxing, Muay Thai.
- 2:20:47This guy is as good a fighter all around, fighter we've seen
- 2:20:49in a very, very long time. Yeah, no, I think you're
- 2:20:52definitely right. You point out the fact with Ilya
- 2:20:54Tapori and how like the the similarities with Conor
- 2:20:56McGregor. I should have put this this
- 2:20:58photo up here really quick. I saw this Ilya and he
- 2:21:01apparently DM Ed, Conor McGregor way back in the day this poster
- 2:21:04here and Conor just put it up on his social media for not too
- 2:21:07long ago right there. Congratulations.
- 2:21:09I'm going to be you somedays. Fair play, son.
- 2:21:11And I think it's such an interesting thing to think about
- 2:21:14that, you know, Ilya it, it's I'm not, again, I'm not calling
- 2:21:17him Conor McGregor, but he definitely has that fighting
- 2:21:21style, that quickness, that, that pull, that that star power.
- 2:21:24And like you and me, we were going back and forth about how
- 2:21:26who should be the next face of the UFC and we were talking
- 2:21:29about Merab. And he definitely has the the
- 2:21:30skill, But Ilia has that, that like that, that star power or
- 2:21:35whereas Merab's kind of he's a little, he does run his mouth
- 2:21:38sometimes, but he's a little bit more quiet.
- 2:21:40He's more humble. Ilia has that like booming
- 2:21:43confidence on the on the brink of, you know, cockiness.
- 2:21:46And it's like it's such a strange thing because you like
- 2:21:48want to hate on Ilia. But then again, he is very
- 2:21:50respectful. Like I thought I couldn't
- 2:21:52believe like at the press fight or pre fight press conference,
- 2:21:56he was straight up telling Charles Oliveira to his face,
- 2:21:58this isn't how I wanted to do, I wanted to fight Makachev.
- 2:22:01And he said, I I I've already won.
- 2:22:04I've got the victory. And like in his face and I'm
- 2:22:06telling I'm like, how can you say that to a man?
- 2:22:08Like you're about to go to war with this guy and you're telling
- 2:22:10him, I already beat you. And and literally he said, I'm
- 2:22:12going to knock. I'm going to knock, right.
- 2:22:15Yeah, like Java, you're right. He he said, I'm going to knock
- 2:22:18him out in the first round. And he did it with ease.
- 2:22:20Like I will say this, Charles, that one moment he had in the
- 2:22:24match where he had ILY in the in the heel hook.
- 2:22:26If he if he clamped that in and he got it on Ilia, he probably
- 2:22:30would have because it's one of the worst injuries you can have.
- 2:22:34Like it's something that you do not want to stay in your.
- 2:22:37Achilles Tenon if once you get a like, you can RIP somebody'd
- 2:22:41Achilles. Tenant right quick, but I will
- 2:22:42say Ilia, he didn't panic, he didn't forget.
- 2:22:45He scrambled like confidently almost, which was insane because
- 2:22:48it's like normally most times fighters in there, they panic
- 2:22:50and you know, it's like you get twitchy, especially with Charles
- 2:22:52Oliveri saw once he was on the ground, like Ilia was kicking
- 2:22:55him a couple of times, but he didn't he didn't want to go to
- 2:22:57the ground with Ilia at all. But even when he was in that
- 2:22:59dangerous position, he didn't you know, he didn't panic.
- 2:23:02He didn't scramble like like in a fear.
- 2:23:05He was confident. He got out of it quickly.
- 2:23:07He kept tagging Charles. And what was interesting to me
- 2:23:10was, is that Charles pursued Ilia a lot and that felt like
- 2:23:15Ilia normally is pressuring all of his opponents.
- 2:23:18And despite the fact he's only 5-7 and I don't believe his
- 2:23:20reach is very long and and Charles had such a huge frame
- 2:23:24and a reach compared to Ilia, but he was pressuring Ilia the
- 2:23:26whole time. So it was almost like Ilia
- 2:23:28baited him in just waiting for him to keep coming and keep
- 2:23:31popping in with that jab. And then he found that right
- 2:23:33hand and knocked him out. You mentioned Merab and the only
- 2:23:36reason why I think Ilia right now is a little bit ahead of
- 2:23:39Merab right now, because Merab is, is a small guy.
- 2:23:42I don't know if he could fight in any higher or bigger weight
- 2:23:46classes because he's really small.
- 2:23:48Ilya, he's not a small man. The guy could he, he drops like
- 2:23:5230 lbs before his fights. He could fight, he could fight
- 2:23:55at 175, he could fight at 185 if he really wants to and he throws
- 2:24:00really, really hard and, and the ability that he has, the way he
- 2:24:04throws, he could fight in the higher weight classes and knock
- 2:24:07a lot of guys out in the bigger and the heavier weight classes.
- 2:24:09So I that's why I think Ilya is the best, best fighter, best
- 2:24:13pound for pound fighter right now the UFC has, and it's so
- 2:24:16funny because Joe Rogan after the fight and the way he Joe
- 2:24:19Rogan wanted to get on his hands and knees and suck him off.
- 2:24:21I mean, Joe Rogan absolutely loves Ilya.
- 2:24:27And you saw it after the fight. Oh, you're the greatest fighter.
- 2:24:30This is one of the greatest dominating fights against one of
- 2:24:32the greatest fighters the UFC has ever had.
- 2:24:34And, and really, Charles Dellavera is a great UFC
- 2:24:38fighter. This guy has been a multiple
- 2:24:40champion. This guy is is is he's a black
- 2:24:42belt in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. He's a good boxer, he's a good
- 2:24:45wrestler. His all around fight games is is
- 2:24:48as good as we've seen in a very, very long time.
- 2:24:51And then he's this guy goes into the ring and says, you know, I'm
- 2:24:54going to knock you out in the first round and embarrass him
- 2:24:56right in front of national crowd and and the national fans around
- 2:25:00the world and just really showed why the UFC now has the next
- 2:25:04guy. And by the way, Ilia is so much
- 2:25:06better than Conor McGregor ever was.
- 2:25:09For anybody to think that, you know, you're trying to compare
- 2:25:12who is better at the top of their game.
- 2:25:14Ilia is a better fighter than Conor McGregor was.
- 2:25:17Now Conor McGregor had that knockout punch.
- 2:25:19He had that left hand. We all know what Conor McGregor
- 2:25:21is. He was more of a boxer.
- 2:25:23His Muy Thai suck sucked. His ground fighting sucked.
- 2:25:27He had no stamina whatsoever. Ilia has stamina.
- 2:25:30He's got the ground fighting. He's got the stand up, he's got
- 2:25:34everything, so for anybody to try to compare Ilia to to
- 2:25:38Connor, there's no comparison. Ilia if he fought Conor McGregor
- 2:25:42at the top of his game, he knocks Conor McGregor out.
- 2:25:45I, I will say I would have loved to see that fight.
- 2:25:48I I think it would be kind of close just because of if you
- 2:25:50remember prime Connor, just how he he had that.
- 2:25:52I understand his stamina was not there and Ilia was definitely a
- 2:25:55better ground fighter. We haven't really have to seen
- 2:25:57it though, because it has just been knocking everybody out left
- 2:25:59or right. But he definitely was a Connor
- 2:26:02was a very like traditional striker.
- 2:26:04And then he of course, he worked on his boxing when he went to go
- 2:26:07fight Floyd Money, Mayweather and things of that nature.
- 2:26:09But it would it would be interesting to see.
- 2:26:11But like, I think I honestly like, and maybe this is just
- 2:26:14like recently by saying, but I might have to give it to Ilia
- 2:26:16because it's his power like again and he's fast, like Connor
- 2:26:20was the same way. But Ilia, it's just like it's,
- 2:26:23it's lightning quick and you, it just comes out of nowhere and it
- 2:26:25doesn't really make sense. And the fact that he moved up to
- 2:26:28the weight and it seems like the power's still there.
- 2:26:30That's what's crazy to me. And and I know we talked about
- 2:26:33you said he could probably move up another weight class and
- 2:26:36personally, but I think what's going to happen is depending on
- 2:26:38whatever happens with Islam Mahachev and Jack Della Madalena
- 2:26:41at the names. I'm not going to lie with you on
- 2:26:43that, depending on what happens. At welterweight, whether Islam
- 2:26:48is to win or lose, I think Ilia will probably wait for Islam.
- 2:26:52The only Personally me I'm a big Justin Gaichi fan so I would
- 2:26:56love to see Justin Gaichi fight Ilia Zeporia because I think
- 2:26:58Justin Gaichi does have the power to match to Poria although
- 2:27:01I am worried about his speed because I feel like he would be
- 2:27:04really fat. Or cagey.
- 2:27:05Too much, right? I'm not his defenses.
- 2:27:09It does scare me a lot of times because he eats a lot of shots
- 2:27:12and you can't with Ilya, you cannot, you can not get tagged
- 2:27:16over and over again. But is an.
- 2:27:19Amazing. He has an amazing jab.
- 2:27:21He could throw the jab and he sets up I Ilia to me, when you
- 2:27:26look at the context of trying to compare his skill, his stand up
- 2:27:30skill to somebody, it would probably be Jon Jones.
- 2:27:33That would be the guy. Jon Jones obviously bigger and
- 2:27:35stronger than he was. But what what Ilia does so well
- 2:27:40is his stand up game hit, the way he sets up punches, the way
- 2:27:42he sets up combinations and then he doesn't need to take you
- 2:27:46down. He dominates you from the waist
- 2:27:48up and he makes sure that you can feel how hard he throws his
- 2:27:51punches. As a matter of fact, Charles
- 2:27:53Aloe Vera at at the press conference after the fight, he
- 2:27:56says that was the hardest punch I've ever felt in my UFC career.
- 2:28:00Could you imagine Oliver coming out and saying that and, and,
- 2:28:04and he's fought some of the best fighters UFC has ever had.
- 2:28:06And he said that was one of the hardest punches I've ever felt
- 2:28:09in my career. That says a lot about the power
- 2:28:12Ilia has and, and what he can do to people.
- 2:28:15It doesn't matter what weight class.
- 2:28:16That's what makes him special. And I, and again, I'm going to
- 2:28:19tell you this right now, I don't think this guy is going to be
- 2:28:21beaten. I don't care.
- 2:28:23In the next three years, years, I think this guy is going to
- 2:28:25dominate. He's going to give up one of
- 2:28:27those belts. I wouldn't even be surprised if
- 2:28:29he says OK, I'm I'm dominated this division.
- 2:28:31I've dominated this division. I want to go into this division
- 2:28:34because I want to be the first three division champion the UFC
- 2:28:37has ever had because nobody had on that.
- 2:28:40Yeah, I have heard that take. Like they said, like Iliad, like
- 2:28:43he's so good and he probably won't be like, even though I
- 2:28:45want him to fight somebody's like I want him to fight Armand
- 2:28:47Saruki. I want him to fight Justin
- 2:28:49Gaichi and I want to like, I think Patti Pimble.
- 2:28:50Like obviously there is the rivalry there.
- 2:28:52It's he's not ready yet. Like he doesn't deserve.
- 2:28:54I know Joe Rowan called him out and said like, hey, you know, we
- 2:28:57could see this fight between you and Patti because you guys have
- 2:28:59had your beef. I think it's probably going to
- 2:29:00be Armand Saruki and or Justin Gaichi and they'll probably have
- 2:29:03Patti fight someone like Dan Hooker or maybe he'll fight
- 2:29:06Gaichi or Armand. And the other will be we'll get
- 2:29:08the chance against Ilia first. But yeah, I think they, you see,
- 2:29:11definitely want to set up Islam versus Ilia and that's probably
- 2:29:15going to be the match up that everyone to see is I'll throw
- 2:29:17this up here too. This was the the power rankings
- 2:29:21after the pay-per-view. And you know, Ilia, obviously
- 2:29:23the number one spot, Islam at #2 maraba #3 Drakus Duplessy at #4
- 2:29:28and then Pantoja, you know, getting his respect that I think
- 2:29:30he violently deserves, deserved to be in that higher rankings in
- 2:29:33the pound for pound rankings. I think he arguably probably
- 2:29:35should be #4 I do like Drakus, but I think that Pantoja has
- 2:29:39proved over the last couple of fights he's had, you know, Cara
- 2:29:42France, Arison as well. And he's, he's just been
- 2:29:47dominant and fantastic. And they, I think they
- 2:29:49definitely want to see to Pori and Makachev.
- 2:29:51And I like you say like I love Justin Gaichi but I am nervous
- 2:29:56for that fight. I think Ilia would also dominate
- 2:29:58Arma. I think he would dominate Patty.
- 2:30:00Like to me Islam is the only guy that I would think it will be a
- 2:30:04good fight. It won't just be Ilia is
- 2:30:06knocking someones ass out again. And that's the problem because
- 2:30:10Islam, he, he likes to and this down his truth, he wants to take
- 2:30:13you down. He wants to wrestle you and take
- 2:30:14you down. And and you're going to get the
- 2:30:16chance to see what Ilia could do on the ground because that's
- 2:30:19what Islam is going to do. But.
- 2:30:20Islam does have hands, though, I will say like he can, he can
- 2:30:24like to me like if you look at him in versus Khabib, like
- 2:30:27Khabib was a straight wrestler. Like he could, he could box, but
- 2:30:31he he just wanted to take you to the cage, tire you out, wear on
- 2:30:34your ground and pound and hurt you.
- 2:30:35Like if you like remember the fight with Dustin Poirier and
- 2:30:39Islam Mahashev, like Islam was boxing with Dustin pouring.
- 2:30:43That's somebody you don't want to stand up on a ground game
- 2:30:45with and box with. Like so I would love to see that
- 2:30:47fight. I like again, like you said,
- 2:30:48though, I don't think he'll want to trade with Ilia.
- 2:30:50He'll probably take him down and wrestle him and hire him out and
- 2:30:53we'll get to see how Ilia does. But that's that's the fight to
- 2:30:56make. Well we'll see what happens it's
- 2:30:59fun when with the UFC and again I haven't really watched the
- 2:31:02full card. I will watch 317 this weekend.
- 2:31:05It's 4th of July weekend. And by the way, I wish everybody
- 2:31:08a happy 4th of July. We'll say that after the show,
- 2:31:11but it it's crazy because I never got a chance to watch it.
- 2:31:15Everybody kept telling me how how good the card was.
- 2:31:18The only two fights that I got a chance to see is the final two
- 2:31:20fights. And I I thought that the Ilia
- 2:31:22fight really stood out for me because I like Ilia.
- 2:31:25I think he, he's up, you know, obviously he's been around for a
- 2:31:29while, but he's up and coming when I mean by up and coming,
- 2:31:31he's it's going to be very hard to to see anybody in any of
- 2:31:36these weight classes beat this kid because the guy is so
- 2:31:38confident and so careful when he's he, he's so, you know,
- 2:31:42precise the way he boxes and way he stands up against people that
- 2:31:47the only way you're going to beat him is taking him down.
- 2:31:49And nobody's ever done that. So until somebody does that,
- 2:31:53good luck trying to stand up with him and trying to knock
- 2:31:55this guy out because the guy's got heavy hands.
- 2:31:58And like Charles Oliveira said at his press conference, this is
- 2:32:00the he is the hardest puncher he's ever been in the ring with.
- 2:32:04So that says a lot about him as a fighter and and how how
- 2:32:07dangerous and how scary this guy could be for the future and the
- 2:32:10US. He's only 27 years old too.
- 2:32:13So he's got a lot of fights left and a lot of opportunity to
- 2:32:16really show who he is. Might go down as the greatest
- 2:32:19UFC fighter of all time. He's got a lot he's got a lot to
- 2:32:22go. But Jon Jones to me, as much as
- 2:32:25everybody says Jon Jones is the greatest fighter of all time.
- 2:32:27To me, he might be the greatest bitch of all time because when
- 2:32:30he I'm. Just so pissed off with Jon
- 2:32:32Jones. And that why?
- 2:32:33Why do you think he didn't want to fight absent all though?
- 2:32:35Because he knows he's going to lose.
- 2:32:37I mean, yeah, it was the there are the legal like a parent,
- 2:32:40apparently. I think there are some legal
- 2:32:41cases that just came up with him.
- 2:32:42He might have gotten into a like a hit and run accident or
- 2:32:45something like that. But to me, the guy I agree with
- 2:32:48Errol, like I think he knows that he's older now.
- 2:32:51He beat up on steep a who was like 40 plus years old, which
- 2:32:54like steep AI got. I respect to him, Grace
- 2:32:56heavyweight of all time, but he just didn't have it anymore.
- 2:32:58He took the easy fight, but the payday and like.
- 2:33:01Well, yeah, and Steep a was he was firefighting 90.
- 2:33:04Percent yeah and he like been laid off for like 3 to 4 like he
- 2:33:07hadn't fought in like 3 plus years.
- 2:33:09And it's like you're just not going to be in fighting shape to
- 2:33:11go up against the heavyweight champ like John Jones, like the
- 2:33:14guy who's arguably the best in the world right now.
- 2:33:16Like I think Tom Aspinall would have won and I wanted to see
- 2:33:19that fight. I'm so freaking pissed off with
- 2:33:21Jon Jones for quitting and like like you said, I think he
- 2:33:24bitched out on it and it bitched out a lot of I mean, Dana White
- 2:33:27said the fight was done and they said they had it ready, but John
- 2:33:30just wanted to drag it along and be a duck like let.
- 2:33:33Me tell you something about Aspinall and why I like Tom
- 2:33:36Aspinall after he heard that he was he was firing, he didn't go
- 2:33:41after he didn't attack John Jones.
- 2:33:43He wished him nothing but the best and he and he sure how much
- 2:33:46class Aspinall has he he went out there and said, listen, he's
- 2:33:50one of the greatest fighters of all time.
- 2:33:52I understand when when somebody wants to walk away from the
- 2:33:54fights and spend time with his family.
- 2:33:55I wish him nothing but the best and I hope I hope he gets the
- 2:33:59chance to spend the time that he wants with his family, which he
- 2:34:02hasn't over the last couple of years.
- 2:34:03That says a lot about Aspinall and and the type of person that
- 2:34:06he is as a professional because he could have went out and
- 2:34:08attacked John Jones and told him go F himself.
- 2:34:11He didn't do that. That's something Connor would
- 2:34:12do. Espinal did not do that.
- 2:34:14And that's something that yet the class and the respect that
- 2:34:17you have to have for a fighter that could go down as the
- 2:34:20greatest MMA, greatest mixed martial artist, UFC fighter of
- 2:34:24all time in Jon Jones. So.
- 2:34:26Yeah, I think like you said, like Tom definitely would have
- 2:34:28been 100% justified in Colin Jones a bitch and just telling
- 2:34:31him like he's a Jackass or whatever because he I mean,
- 2:34:34wasted a year of Tom Espinal's prime.
- 2:34:36Like he was literally sitting on the shelf just training, working
- 2:34:39hard. And they and Dana White and
- 2:34:41Hunter Campbell and all them just said just stay ready.
- 2:34:43Just stay ready. Like keep training, keep, you
- 2:34:45know, be in shape. We'll we'll tell you when the
- 2:34:47fight is. And they just had to be at the
- 2:34:49bend at the well, but they. And the crazy part is they said
- 2:34:52it more than once that we're either close or, yeah, it's
- 2:34:54almost a done deal. And so.
- 2:34:56It's like I, I this is Dana. White's fault This is Dana
- 2:34:59White's fault by the. Way, yeah, I think realistically
- 2:35:02they, they probably didn't have the fight ever ready.
- 2:35:04Like maybe they maybe they like verbally agreed to it, but I
- 2:35:07don't think it was ever written in in like a contract or was
- 2:35:10never signed by Jones and Aspinall.
- 2:35:12Like they probably were just saying that just to like keep
- 2:35:14people's interest around. Because I will say I was excited
- 2:35:17for it. But like I hear tons of people
- 2:35:18online and UFC fans around the world, like they didn't really
- 2:35:21care. They didn't want to watch the
- 2:35:23fight anymore because it's like you kept dangling in front of us
- 2:35:26and then you was like, you never gave it to us was like, people
- 2:35:28aren't going to give a shit anymore.
- 2:35:29Like similarly, like with Connor, like I wanted to see
- 2:35:31Connor versus Michael Chandler and Connor kept getting in his
- 2:35:34party and in his legal troubles. And it's like now most people
- 2:35:37don't even really care. Like Michael Chandler, he went,
- 2:35:40he moved on, he moved on. I didn't want, I didn't want to
- 2:35:44see Connor and and Michael Chandler because to me, I'm.
- 2:35:47Just saying that like if you wait too long.
- 2:35:49No, I wanted to see. I wanted to see Connor and Nate
- 2:35:52Diaz 3. That's what I wanted to see.
- 2:35:54For the. Years, that's what I wanted to
- 2:35:56see because honestly, Nate Diaz won both fights and Conor
- 2:35:59McGregor only won the second fight because if he lost that
- 2:36:01fight, his career would have been over with the UFC because
- 2:36:04he lost two consistently after, you know, before and after that
- 2:36:08fight. I mean, Connor won out of the
- 2:36:10five, his five last fights, I think he won two fights.
- 2:36:13He lost three of them. He he was just inconsistent at
- 2:36:16the tail end of his career. And why?
- 2:36:18Because Conor McGregor had to fight Floyd Mayweather for the
- 2:36:21money. Now, I'm not going to take shots
- 2:36:22at him. He made $100 million.
- 2:36:24He invested in it to whiskey and from there he sold it for almost
- 2:36:28$600 million. You're not going to take a shot
- 2:36:31at a guy that was, you know, living off the streets and and
- 2:36:34working as a plumber or an assistant plumber when he was in
- 2:36:37Ireland and then became one of the one of the great popular
- 2:36:40fighters the UFC has ever had. I just I don't like Connor
- 2:36:44because of what he has done after the fact and what he has
- 2:36:47said after the fact, no matter who he fought and what he said
- 2:36:50about Jose Aldo. That knockout listen, it was an
- 2:36:53amazing knockout, but what a lucky punch, man, that was
- 2:36:57lucky. And I I don't think Jose Aldo
- 2:36:59really expected anything for Conor McGregor and he he got
- 2:37:02colder one. But yeah, Conor wants to stand
- 2:37:04there and talk crap after the fact when Jose Aldo is one of
- 2:37:07the greatest, you know, fighters of his class, his weight class
- 2:37:11in history. Remember, he didn't come from
- 2:37:13the UFC came from what was it? What, what, what was the the
- 2:37:18organization he came from before he went to, you know, before he
- 2:37:20went to the UFCI forget. But I don't know if it was
- 2:37:23Strikeforce. No, it wasn't Trikeforce.
- 2:37:25It wasn't trikeforce. It was, I forget, I got to look
- 2:37:28that up, look that up. Jose Aldo, Jose Aldo, he was
- 2:37:32from like WEC or whatever it was.
- 2:37:34It was something he was from an organization which by the way,
- 2:37:37he was undefeated. And anybody that knows the
- 2:37:38background about Jose Aldo, Jose Aldo was a great soccer player
- 2:37:42and he hurt his leg and it could have been a professional WECWEC.
- 2:37:46Yeah. And UFC signed him and he became
- 2:37:49the champion and held the belt for a little while and then lost
- 2:37:52it. So I obviously from Conor
- 2:37:54McGregor. But again, my problem with Conor
- 2:37:58McGregor doesn't lie about who he is and what he's all about
- 2:38:01and where he comes from. My problem is, is the way he has
- 2:38:04come out and thrown people onto the bus and made himself look
- 2:38:07like a Jackass doing it. That is why I don't like Conor
- 2:38:10McGregor. You can't take take away from
- 2:38:13what he has done since such a short time and how much money
- 2:38:16he's made for the UFC and himself and his family.
- 2:38:19That is incredible. But Jon Jones is a bitch and I
- 2:38:22don't care when anybody says you can take that to the bank.
- 2:38:24He's a bitch. Aspinall would have beaten his
- 2:38:26ass. I, I wouldn't be surprised with
- 2:38:28Aspinall knocked him out in the second round.
- 2:38:30He was fat, he was slow and that's the truth.
- 2:38:33And that's the he fought Steep A because steep A was 40 years old
- 2:38:37and he was just looking for a payday.
- 2:38:38You're absolutely right, Jay and, and, and the reason why he
- 2:38:41didn't want to fight Tommy is because in his eyes, he's
- 2:38:43undefeated, even though he was, he really has a loss on his
- 2:38:46record because, you know, it was a disqualification.
- 2:38:50The fact is he his cheating ways, he cheated against Daniel
- 2:38:54Cormier. He can say whatever he wants.
- 2:38:56He cheated and he's always been in these these these situations
- 2:39:01over the years where he has not kept himself out of the
- 2:39:03tabloids. This is the same thing with his
- 2:39:05family, his brothers and they're great athletes, tremendous
- 2:39:08athletes. He's just, he's a problemsome.
- 2:39:10I mean, yeah. Didn't, didn't, didn't Chandler
- 2:39:13Jones, like, lose his mind on the waiters?
- 2:39:15Like he wasn't saying almost. Chandler Jones is nuts.
- 2:39:18They're all family's nuts. That whole family's nuts, dude.
- 2:39:21His his other two brothers. Chandler Jones and his other
- 2:39:24brother. Arthur was also an NFL.
- 2:39:25Yeah, he was an NFL player. They're all great athletes.
- 2:39:28They're father. I mean, they're giants and, and
- 2:39:32they're obviously Jon Jones is the greatest of all of them.
- 2:39:34I mean, Chandler Jones was great, but Jon Jones is you
- 2:39:37could, he's probably going to go down as the greatest mixed
- 2:39:39martial artist I've ever, ever, But that's because Dana White
- 2:39:42was protecting him for years. Dana White protected Conor
- 2:39:46McGregor, he protected Jon Jones and and I, and I, by the way, I,
- 2:39:50I, I've grew up and I, we have to move on.
- 2:39:54BJ Penn, the stories coming out about BJ Penn and for all the
- 2:39:58stories that probably are true, BJ Penn is a piece of shit.
- 2:40:02OK, that man for if these stories are true or what he was
- 2:40:05doing to his kids and what he was doing to his wife, it's
- 2:40:09despicable. I love BJ Penn.
- 2:40:10I followed him fastest to get a Brazilian Jiu Jitsu black belt,
- 2:40:14Gracie black belt in two years. Fastest American to do that.
- 2:40:18And, and, and you're hearing these stories that he was
- 2:40:20abusing his kids and his wife and threatening them and, and
- 2:40:23talking all this rubbish. If these stories are to be true,
- 2:40:26that BJ Penn should be washed away from the UFC, and should
- 2:40:29be. Spoken about again, it's
- 2:40:31despicable the stories that I heard about BJ Penn and that's
- 2:40:33coming from ABJ Penn fan so. I'm gonna, I'm gonna have to
- 2:40:37look at stuff. I haven't heard about that, so
- 2:40:39it'll be news to me. I'm gonna have to look into
- 2:40:40those stories. It's a horrible story.
- 2:40:42You can read it. He's been, dude, he was arrested
- 2:40:45three times in a week, three times in a week, and it was.
- 2:40:50It's despicable and his I'm not sure.
- 2:40:53I'm not going to don't call me. I think his mom was saying that
- 2:40:56he was doing some abusive things.
- 2:40:58So it's A and this guy is this guy fought in the UFC.
- 2:41:02This guy fought and won multiple championships and he's beating
- 2:41:05up a woman and his kids and threatening them and, and
- 2:41:08talking all this crazy crap that's coming out his mouth like
- 2:41:11though that they're, they have like aliens or they're saying
- 2:41:14that they're, they're he they're demons or something like that.
- 2:41:16He's losing his mind. Maybe CTE.
- 2:41:19And that's something that the UFC needs to look into as well
- 2:41:22because of mixed martial arts and all those punches to the
- 2:41:25head and all the different things that we've been talking
- 2:41:26about over the last couple of years with football.
- 2:41:28I think maybe he has CTE problems as well, but it's
- 2:41:31despicable. The stories are despicable.
- 2:41:33Go check it out. It's it's not it's not very good
- 2:41:36for mixed martial arts in the UFC when those stories come out
- 2:41:39about one of their best fighters and a Hall of Fame fighter in in
- 2:41:42UFC history. So.
- 2:41:43Before we move on to Tom, had a question in the comments
- 2:41:46section. What do you think about the
- 2:41:47recent Jake Paul fight? What do I think?
- 2:41:49I think Jake Paul paid Julio Cesar Chavez junior.
- 2:41:53That's what I think he did. Because if he really fought
- 2:41:56Julio Cesar Chavez Junior, Julio Cesar Chavez Junior would have
- 2:42:01beaten him. I, I don't want to hear anything
- 2:42:03in anybody that wants to deny it.
- 2:42:05Now, I respect Jake Paul because he's training.
- 2:42:08He puts the time in and you got to give him a little bit of
- 2:42:10credit. It's not easy from going to what
- 2:42:14Disney World or being on the Disney Channel to being a
- 2:42:17professional boxer. But who's he being?
- 2:42:20I don't want you see the list. The first person, Nate
- 2:42:23Robertson. Nate Robertson just had a kidney
- 2:42:25transplant or a livid transplant.
- 2:42:27Are you kidding me? He's like he's like 6, 6 foot or
- 2:42:29five foot 8:00 and you're going to sit there and you're going to
- 2:42:31brag about that you beat Anderson Silver who and Ben
- 2:42:36Askin. I mean, by the way, I got to
- 2:42:38give him shout out after winning that fight, going out there and
- 2:42:41trying to raise money for Ben. That says a lot about who he is
- 2:42:44as a as a person. Even though they hate each
- 2:42:45other. That was nice of Jake going out
- 2:42:48and doing what he did. But the guy is a marketer.
- 2:42:51He's a genius. He's a marketing genius.
- 2:42:54If you want to give him some kind of credit, the guy is, is
- 2:42:58one of the best marketing, you know, programming, you know,
- 2:43:02geniuses I've ever seen him and his brother Logan.
- 2:43:05How does it, how does Logan go to the WWE and become a
- 2:43:09champion? How does he go to the WWE?
- 2:43:11And, and with the athletic ability that he have just
- 2:43:15completely be one of the most hated wrestlers in the in in the
- 2:43:19WWE and, and going, you know, being at main events and and
- 2:43:23being like the Co main event and the main event.
- 2:43:26That's incredible. The brothers are just geniuses.
- 2:43:29They're marketing genius. I'll give him credit for that.
- 2:43:31But as a boxer, if he ever gets into a ring with a real boxer,
- 2:43:35he will be knocked the hell out, knocked the hell out in the
- 2:43:38first round. You want to fight Canelo, You
- 2:43:40want to fight a real boxer and get in the ring with a real
- 2:43:43boxer, Good friggin luck. He will abuse you in in about a
- 2:43:48minute. You wouldn't even last a minute
- 2:43:50with a Canelo Alvarez. So it it's just Canelo's.
- 2:43:53Canelo's got a big fight in September.
- 2:43:55Yes, he does. Yes.
- 2:43:56And we, you know he's fighting. Yes, I know he's fighting
- 2:43:59Nebraska. We all know.
- 2:44:00I know, I know. It's more than three hours of
- 2:44:04the show. That was the first Nebraska.
- 2:44:05Reference, by the way, the best I got I got a hat on so that
- 2:44:08that down. Listen, he's the best anti
- 2:44:11dextrous fighter I've ever seen, OK?
- 2:44:13And there's no question. I can't I can't stand freaking
- 2:44:16Jake Paul, man. Like to me, like the fact that
- 2:44:19you even think that you could just like you sound like
- 2:44:21intelligent and people will buy the shit that you.
- 2:44:23I mean, you're right, he's a smart marketer, but like the
- 2:44:26fact he's like, Oh yeah, I can go fight Canelo and be like
- 2:44:28promoter, but then you, you want to turn around, you want to turn
- 2:44:31around and then fight a 60 year old Mike Tyson.
- 2:44:33Like, okay, dude, like whatever. And you fought like 2 minute
- 2:44:39rounds like. What a joke.
- 2:44:42That wasn't Jake Paul's fault. That was Mike Tyson's fault.
- 2:44:46Mike Tyson almost died three months before before the fight
- 2:44:50and. Then you're right, he reached.
- 2:44:52Out to Jake and he said he wanted that fight.
- 2:44:54You know why he wanted that fight?
- 2:44:55Because he was getting 16 to $20 million off that deal.
- 2:44:58Mike Tyson needed the money, OK? So no, I get, I get why they
- 2:45:02did, but I mean, like to me it was just like I was just the
- 2:45:05most boring, horrible thing. That's I think it was nice that
- 2:45:09it was on Netflix because everybody has Netflix.
- 2:45:11It was like it was horrible on Netflix.
- 2:45:13It froze every time it was, well, I.
- 2:45:15Know, I know, but I mean like it was like at least you'd have to
- 2:45:18buy a pay-per-view for it like you could just buy but like dude
- 2:45:21it. Was.
- 2:45:22It was. So boring.
- 2:45:24Like I remember watching 2 minute rounds and I was like
- 2:45:27what the hell is this? Here's the problem.
- 2:45:28Here's. The here's the problem, he got
- 2:45:32Floyd Mayweather that's fighting exhibition fights against Gotti
- 2:45:35and, and embarrassed Gotti, even embarrassing himself after the
- 2:45:39fact. And, and, and by the way, John
- 2:45:41Gotti junior made like, I don't know, like 9 or $10 million off
- 2:45:45of both fights. How does a guy who has no boxing
- 2:45:48experience and by the way, I watched his first UFCI mean I'm
- 2:45:51not UFC mixed martial arts amateur fight.
- 2:45:53I was at the event when he fought his first mixed martial
- 2:45:57arts and I was right there where he said John Gotti Junior and I,
- 2:46:00he was bragging about his son. I'm like your son, it wouldn't
- 2:46:02last a second in the UFC and then he and then he goes out
- 2:46:06there and he goes into the boxing world again.
- 2:46:09These guys have names. If you have a name and you can
- 2:46:12promote it, you're going to make money.
- 2:46:14That's just the way sports are now.
- 2:46:16It's a business. It's not about who's better than
- 2:46:19who or who's the most athletic. It's about, oh, it's Gotti.
- 2:46:22You have the last name Gotti. I'll put you in a ring.
- 2:46:24I'm going to make $10 million off the name.
- 2:46:27If Jabba wants the box right now and he's fighting in Nebraska,
- 2:46:30do you? How many people would go to
- 2:46:32watch Jabba Chamberlain fight? I mean, seriously, it doesn't
- 2:46:35matter who he's. Fighting, yeah, but you gonna
- 2:46:37fight? Who is it?
- 2:46:41Doink the clown. If he fought Doink the Clown
- 2:46:43people would sell out to to. Watch.
- 2:46:45No, no, no. You know, play David Ortiz.
- 2:46:47We'll do Red Sox versus Yankees. No, Kevin Euclis is his number
- 2:46:50one enemy. Yeah, yeah, I can't see that.
- 2:46:54I'd do that for free. I pay to see that.
- 2:46:56That's what we got to set up. We got to set up Jabba
- 2:46:59Chamberlain against Kevin Euclis.
- 2:47:01That would be great because you know, Tom Brady would show up to
- 2:47:05that match because that's his brother-in-law.
- 2:47:07That would be perfect. That would be absolute anyways
- 2:47:15that that by the way, that was a great that was great when it
- 2:47:18comes to mixed martial arts, we got into Jake Paul.
- 2:47:20It was great. Honestly, we're not even going
- 2:47:22to do king of the hill tonight. We're not.
- 2:47:24We don't have to. We just gave you king of the
- 2:47:27hill. We got into the mixed martial
- 2:47:29arts, the boxing. We gave you everything that you
- 2:47:32wanted there. Screw king of the hill tonight.
- 2:47:34That was great. Jake, you are your knowledge
- 2:47:37when it comes to mixed martial arts and combat sport is
- 2:47:39sensational. But again, and Jake Paul is a
- 2:47:42promoter, that's what he is. I I'd love to see him get into a
- 2:47:46ring with a real boxer in the prime of his career.
- 2:47:49And if he he, if he could even get out of two rounds, I'll give
- 2:47:53him props. And I'm talking about 3 1/2
- 2:47:55minute rounds, No2 minute rounds, 3 1/2 minute rounds with
- 2:48:00a real professional boxer. I pay, I pay to see it, but he's
- 2:48:05not going to do that. He's a chicken shit.
- 2:48:07That's it. I I'll challenge him on the show
- 2:48:09right now. I boxed for seven years
- 2:48:12competitively. I was an undefeated amateur for
- 2:48:15seven years. I was 22 O and one I fought.
- 2:48:19I I boxed a lot of good fighters out here in Long Island with
- 2:48:22fate, you know, obviously with, with face, you know, hell, you
- 2:48:25know, mad, you know, protecting face.
- 2:48:27But I I can, I can fight. I challenge Jake anytime,
- 2:48:31anytime he wants to fight. I got to I got to train for six
- 2:48:33months. It's a lot.
- 2:48:35You got to train for six months and I got to run and I got to
- 2:48:37get back into shape. I challenge his fat ass and I'll
- 2:48:40knock him the fuck out. OK, in two rounds.
- 2:48:43I would knock him out in two rounds.
- 2:48:45He's a chicken shit who throws a heavy right hand.
- 2:48:48And that's all I'm going to say about Jake.
- 2:48:49Jake is not a good fighter. He drops his hands, he tips his
- 2:48:52hands and he's just like Conor McGregor.
- 2:48:54He gets two rounds, his hands start to fall.
- 2:48:57And if you do that, he's got a soft chin.
- 2:48:59And that's all I'm going to say about that.
- 2:49:01What's going on over here? What?
- 2:49:03Thanks. Thanks, Raul.
- 2:49:04Yeah. I fought the bugs in Cleveland.
- 2:49:06There, boy, he did. Ghost of Gotham here.
- 2:49:10Javik is going to take Kevin Yukos.
- 2:49:12Believe it no, but I I would love to fight.
- 2:49:15I would love to fight Jake Paul if he obviously I'm not I'm not
- 2:49:19a big name and is get into a ring with a real person.
- 2:49:22I I'm not even a real boxer because I I'm not a professional
- 2:49:25boxer. I'll knock it out.
- 2:49:27I'll knock you out. I will knock you out.
- 2:49:29I'm you you go against these hockey players, these basketball
- 2:49:32players, former this former that UFC fighters out of shape.
- 2:49:36I'm 43 years old you. I am.
- 2:49:38How old is Jake Paul? 28?
- 2:49:40Oh, is it 28 years old? He, he is 15 years of my I am 15
- 2:49:46years of his elder. OK, I get into the ring and I
- 2:49:49promise you guys I beat him in A5 round fight, five round
- 2:49:53fight. What is he?
- 2:49:553 minute rounds? 3 minute rounds, 3 minute
- 2:49:57rounds, 3 minute rounds. I don't think he lasts.
- 2:49:59If he fights 3 minute rounds, 5 rounds with me, he'll I'll end
- 2:50:02him in two or three rounds. I'll end him in two or three
- 2:50:05rounds. He doesn't.
- 2:50:06He's not what he says he is. And I, I any day, anytime I'll
- 2:50:10fight him on the streets. We don't even have to go in the
- 2:50:12ring and sell it. Get me gloves.
- 2:50:15I'll train for a couple of couple of months because I'm
- 2:50:18going to need a couple of months to get my cardio back at least a
- 2:50:21little bit. I got to run a couple of miles.
- 2:50:23But I am absolutely right. I got to drop what, what does he
- 2:50:26fight at 202 O five? I think it's two O 5, right?
- 2:50:29Jake What does he fight AT2O5 was this.
- 2:50:32Last. Well, I don't.
- 2:50:34Know 190 something All right so I'm two I'm 216 today so I would
- 2:50:40have to drop 3025 lbs I would I would need at least at least
- 2:50:44four months to do that because I I definitely need to train my
- 2:50:47body with the stamina and all that other stuff and get into
- 2:50:50the ring and have some you know some some competition with guys
- 2:50:54a little. Bit cruiserweight standing so I
- 2:50:56don't know what. Cruiserweight that is, Yeah,
- 2:50:57Cruiserweight IS191185190. That's what he's at.
- 2:51:01So. I just had to point out too goes
- 2:51:03to Gotham, he says. If he doesn't run from you bro.
- 2:51:05So yeah, you might have to, you have to just train your cardio
- 2:51:07because Jake will be running for me the whole.
- 2:51:09He's a bitch, man. And I'm going to tell you right
- 2:51:11now, I, I know how to stand with them and I, I know how to throw
- 2:51:15combinations. I did it.
- 2:51:16I'm not. And I'm going to tell you this
- 2:51:18right now, I'm not talking crap. I, I will absolutely do it.
- 2:51:21If he wants to do it, you could send this, but you could send
- 2:51:24this to his social media. I will challenge him.
- 2:51:27I'd fight him anywhere. I'd fight him in Disneyland
- 2:51:31right by the, what do they call that?
- 2:51:32The you know, Princess, Princess freaking magic.
- 2:51:36Castle magic. Castle.
- 2:51:38Magic Castle did. Have a Disney show that didn't
- 2:51:40do too great. Didn't have anything doing too
- 2:51:43great. He's the only thing he does
- 2:51:44great is promoting. I got to give him credit for
- 2:51:46that. But if he wants to fight, he's
- 2:51:48looking for a fight. I I'll, I'll be it'll be a
- 2:51:51pleasure to jump in the ring with him and give him a nice
- 2:51:54beat down and I'll do it for free.
- 2:51:56You don't even have to pay me. I'll do it for free.
- 2:51:59Jake, how about this will do. Whoever wins the fight donates a
- 2:52:04certain amount of money to whoever's organization.
- 2:52:08OK, cuz, cuz after I knock you the F out and I beat your ass,
- 2:52:13you can donate to Jabba Chamberlain's foundation,
- 2:52:17whatever foundation he chooses. OK, job will be in my my corner
- 2:52:21after, you know, I spit a couple times in, you know, in, in my
- 2:52:24little bucket. And after I do that, I'll be
- 2:52:26dancing around and shoving my fist up your ass.
- 2:52:29Anyways, there you go. That's a challenge.
- 2:52:32But he's not going to take it because he's a pee wee.
- 2:52:34Anyways, ladies and gentlemen, no goodies, bag of balls, no
- 2:52:37king of the hill. But we have dial it up.
- 2:52:40We interrupt this regularly scheduled hot mix to bring you
- 2:52:43important news. We got a big.
- 2:52:45Broadcast to do here. We're about to dial it up.
- 2:52:50Well dial it up will not be the same without goody saying dial
- 2:52:53it up before every segment. Dial it.
- 2:52:55Up so well, maybe we'll fish dial it all, yeah, but when
- 2:52:58Goody does it, it's like. You want to take it up the SP.
- 2:53:02No. You want to dial that up.
- 2:53:04No, Nathan might with one of his hot ladies, but that's what.
- 2:53:08You bring all the guys in, Let bring Aaron in, Jake, let him
- 2:53:11come in. All right, Nathan, you could
- 2:53:12come. In all of them, Come in, you're
- 2:53:14on some fun. You could dial it up a little
- 2:53:15too. All right.
- 2:53:18We'll start with this. Bring Aaron in.
- 2:53:19Go ahead, bring them all in. Well, yeah, we'll start with
- 2:53:21this one. So Rob Manfred is blaming the
- 2:53:23players for the reason that the baseball has lost approximately
- 2:53:27$2.5 billion. It was a response directly after
- 2:53:30that where Tony Clark, who's the progressive player with the
- 2:53:34players Association, is blaming them as a sales pitch type
- 2:53:38thing. And naturally Rob Manfred is
- 2:53:40trying to throw the players under the bus like he always
- 2:53:42does. So what do we got here for this
- 2:53:44one? You know we don't.
- 2:53:45You don't like Rob Manfred? Dial it up on your least
- 2:53:48favorite commissioner. First of all, Rob Manfred is
- 2:53:51despicable, blaming the players when this is a guy that wouldn't
- 2:53:54even let one of the greatest hitters in Major League history
- 2:53:58in the Hall of Fame. You know what I'm talking about,
- 2:54:00Pete Rose. And this guy has gone out and
- 2:54:02said a lot of derogatory things over the years.
- 2:54:05And then he's gone out there and try to make and change rules for
- 2:54:09the Major League thinking that it's going, yeah, it speeds up
- 2:54:12the game, doesn't make the game better.
- 2:54:13I love those four or five, five hour games when I went to those
- 2:54:17Yankee Red Sox games. So what is he trying to do?
- 2:54:19He's trying to speed up the game and make the game worse.
- 2:54:22The game worked so many years the way it has now.
- 2:54:25Steroids. Bud Selik, he's the one who came
- 2:54:28from the steroid hour, steroid time.
- 2:54:30And then Bud Selik is inducted into the Hall of Fame.
- 2:54:33Why? Because Rob Manfred was the one
- 2:54:35that inducted him into the Hall of Fame.
- 2:54:37His butt buddy. I don't like Rob Manfred,
- 2:54:39whatever you want to call him, he's a free ass.
- 2:54:42That's what he is and what I believe in 2026 or 2027 when his
- 2:54:48contract is up, please somebody take that job.
- 2:54:51He's an idiot, he's disrespectful and he's one of
- 2:54:54the worst commissioners in Major League Baseball history.
- 2:55:01You don't have to really argue this with me.
- 2:55:03Like, it's one thing to see what he does and, and how he's tried
- 2:55:10to change the landscape of certain types of the of the
- 2:55:15game. But when you blatantly go out
- 2:55:18and I've been fortunate enough to work under Tony and a lot of
- 2:55:22other great union leagues and and Michael Weiner and, and guys
- 2:55:25like that. And to, to have him put it on
- 2:55:29the players is, I mean, he's just really in the end of the
- 2:55:33day, trying to make himself look good.
- 2:55:34When, when really all that matters is our guys and we know
- 2:55:39what we're doing. Like, OK, we're costing 2.5
- 2:55:42billion, right? But yet we're setting records
- 2:55:44every year in contracts. Like you, you aren't making
- 2:55:47sense. Like what you're saying is that
- 2:55:49our union is costing us money. I, I don't understand how you
- 2:55:54can even say that when we're setting marks every year, either
- 2:55:57through arbitration or contracts and length of contracts and age
- 2:56:01of contracts. Like the numbers don't lie.
- 2:56:04I would love to know where he's coming up with this 2.5 billion
- 2:56:10and how they where did they lose it?
- 2:56:13I don't understand. I got something for you.
- 2:56:15I got something for you. Rob Manford is making $17.5
- 2:56:19million a year to do, not to do what?
- 2:56:22What is he doing? He's ruined the game.
- 2:56:25He's made the game worse. And he sits there and he's
- 2:56:27blaming the players for billions of dollars of loss.
- 2:56:30How about this? Why were you hiding Otani's
- 2:56:34betting scandal? Why were you doing that, Rob?
- 2:56:36Because we all know you are part of that.
- 2:56:39How much did you pay the FBI to hide or secure the fact that
- 2:56:44Otani didn't do anything wrong? Because we all know he was a
- 2:56:48part of that. So I, I I'm tired of Rob
- 2:56:50Manfred. I hope he for one way or one way
- 2:56:53or another, the the major leagues or the MLB and the
- 2:56:55owners decide after his contract's up that he can take a
- 2:56:59hike. He is a horrible commissioner,
- 2:57:01horrible commissioner. It's terrible.
- 2:57:03But if he like, OK, you make the like, that's fine, OK, like you,
- 2:57:08whatever. You have people in your ear all
- 2:57:10the time. But if you're going to say that
- 2:57:12and talk about us as a unit and the players that have have done
- 2:57:16things for the future generation, tell me, where are
- 2:57:19you coming up with this number and why?
- 2:57:21Why dudes are signing $785 million contracts?
- 2:57:24Like what are we talking about? All right, so for somebody from
- 2:57:27somebody making the game worse to making the game better and
- 2:57:30then we're back to Caitlin Clark.
- 2:57:32Another record for her a record setting shoe deal this time
- 2:57:36selling out immediately within the first day and some more
- 2:57:39growth for the WNBA is we mentioned she could bring in
- 2:57:41billions of dollars. What is that has led to also
- 2:57:44three new expansion teams in the WNBA in Detroit, in Philly and
- 2:57:48in Cleveland. Errol, you can dial it up.
- 2:57:51Well, it's pretty serious and pretty honest here.
- 2:57:54Caitlin Clark is one of the biggest superstars in
- 2:57:57professional sports history. She is going to take the WNBA to
- 2:58:01another level that you couldn't even imagine.
- 2:58:03And for all the ladies and all the people out there that don't
- 2:58:06believe she is the face of women's sports, well then you
- 2:58:09don't know any sport this woman has been taking, been been
- 2:58:14beaten up, thrown around and prosecuted because of her
- 2:58:17talents. She is going to take the WNBA to
- 2:58:22a position and in a place where the WNBA is going to have shoe
- 2:58:26deals that are going to be worth 10s of millions of dollars.
- 2:58:29These players are going to make money that you wouldn't even,
- 2:58:32they couldn't even have dreamed of over the last couple of
- 2:58:35years. She is the face not only of
- 2:58:37women's basketball, professional sports.
- 2:58:40She was what athlete of the year last year for a reason, because
- 2:58:44of what she brings in, the money, she brings in the
- 2:58:46endorsement she's bringing in. And by the way, why do you think
- 2:58:50the new season CBA in the new television deal that they got
- 2:58:52last year, which was over what, a billion dollars?
- 2:58:56Why do you think they got that contract?
- 2:58:58It was because of Caitlin Clark. And you see all these women, all
- 2:59:00these girls out there calling her names, telling her she's not
- 2:59:03good for basketball, pushing her around, beating her up on the
- 2:59:06basketball court and she's breaking records and getting
- 2:59:09triple double S. And she's showing you why the
- 2:59:13the WNBA is needed this for over 10 years.
- 2:59:17And I think she's now going to take the WNBA, NBA and the sport
- 2:59:22to another level we wouldn't even imagine.
- 2:59:24Yeah, we were looking at the record setting shoe deals.
- 2:59:26Now this is among NBA players is among a lot of soccer players,
- 2:59:30the instant success that they've broken like it was one day that
- 2:59:34it's it's spawned to that kind of deal and now you're seeing it
- 2:59:37three expansion teams obviously directly correlated with
- 2:59:40obviously not just like 1 instance with Clark, but so many
- 2:59:42other different things with that.
- 2:59:44I think we're thinking for a while Philadelphia was going to
- 2:59:46get a WNBA expansion team. There's already another new one
- 2:59:49this year with the in Golden State with the Valkyries.
- 2:59:52So there definitely is evident growth of the where getting to
- 2:59:55that $1 billion plateau. And even when she's hurt, like
- 2:59:59she's still getting a lot of the reputation for all the good
- 3:00:01things that she's done and obviously all the jealous WNBA
- 3:00:04players and coaches that we talked about over the last
- 3:00:06couple weeks of what she's done for the game.
- 3:00:09And now you're seeing a bunch of expansion teams go along with
- 3:00:11that too. You're going to get more
- 3:00:12competition that way, more national exposure to the game in
- 3:00:15those cities. By the way, Carl actually came
- 3:00:18out and said Jabba Manford came up with the 2, $1,000,000 number
- 3:00:21due to the lack of 5050 revenue split between owners and
- 3:00:25players. Well, I I mean, he's obviously
- 3:00:28calculating something that doesn't make any sense.
- 3:00:30Yeah. And that'll never happen.
- 3:00:32He knows that. Yeah, he's he's just an idiot.
- 3:00:35That's what the speed speedy real quick, Errol.
- 3:00:38By the way, Indiana Fever won the Commissioner Cup today, so
- 3:00:41Congrats to the. Congratulations, Yeah.
- 3:00:44Yeah, they're doing the playoff tournament just like the NBA, so
- 3:00:46I don't know. Well, let's see how that works.
- 3:00:48Caitlin Clark, that's why. That's all I'm going to say.
- 3:00:51She didn't even play. I know, I know.
- 3:00:53You don't need to play. She doesn't need to play.
- 3:00:55They're winning because of just her presence.
- 3:00:57She could sit on the bench and she gives them a kind of a boost
- 3:01:02that they never had. Just think about it.
- 3:01:04Indiana two years ago won what, three games the whole season?
- 3:01:08They were the other #1 pick two years in a row and then.
- 3:01:10Games. Three games and then she goes
- 3:01:13there and they make the playoffs and now she's not even on the
- 3:01:17roster and they're still winning.
- 3:01:18What does that tell you? One player.
- 3:01:21Probably a job his favorite ass kicker Sophie Cunningham.
- 3:01:27Hey, Speaking of Sophie, did you guys see her her comments about
- 3:01:31the expansion teams saying she was dissing?
- 3:01:34No, no, she was, she was dissing Cleveland in Detroit.
- 3:01:36But I agree with her. I think they should have done
- 3:01:39Miami. I think Miami is a much bigger
- 3:01:42city attractive to a lot of people.
- 3:01:44They they should have done in Miami also in my opinion.
- 3:01:47There's no guarantee there's well, then people came and
- 3:01:50heard, though. They're like you play in
- 3:01:52Indiana. That's not Miami is a good
- 3:01:55basketball city, but it's not great for the other sports.
- 3:01:58Cleveland has been pretty good with all their sports, so I can
- 3:02:00see why that could work over there.
- 3:02:01All right, let's move on. A very sad story in baseball.
- 3:02:04Dave Parker passing away, great Pirates outfielder just before
- 3:02:08his would have been Hall of Fame induction ceremony in July, late
- 3:02:12in July. Very sad story on on their part.
- 3:02:15Rest in peace to a great but another case of maybe a baseball
- 3:02:19not putting a guy in the Hall of Fame waiting way too long to do
- 3:02:22it. So Errol, you can dial this one
- 3:02:24up. It's a shame and and that's the
- 3:02:26problem with Rob Manfred, the idiot of himself.
- 3:02:30He looks at himself in a mirror and I wonder if he actually sees
- 3:02:32himself or he believes he's something that he's not.
- 3:02:35Parker was the absolutely a Hall of Famer.
- 3:02:38He should have been a Hall of Famer 5-6 maybe even 10 years
- 3:02:41ago. But Rob Manfred is a complete
- 3:02:43moron. And by the way, blood Sealix
- 3:02:45even a bigger moron. 22 commissioners that didn't know
- 3:02:48what they were doing but guess what as soon as as Bud Selig
- 3:02:51retires, he goes to the Hall of Fame.
- 3:02:53What in two or three years? It's pathetic.
- 3:02:56Dave Parker should have been a Hall of Famer years ago and he's
- 3:02:58never going to get a chance to experience making a speech in
- 3:03:01front of his family, his friends and all the greats because this
- 3:03:05is a man that and by the way, the Pittsburgh Pirates, you talk
- 3:03:09about Roberto Clemente and, and maybe Dave Parker might be the
- 3:03:133rd or 4th best Pittsburgh Pirate of all time and this guy
- 3:03:17was not inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame quick
- 3:03:20enough. It's again Rob Manford, you're
- 3:03:23an idiot. Please retire.
- 3:03:26Get away from the game. You're hurting the game.
- 3:03:28Every time I look at your ugly face, you make me sick to my
- 3:03:31freaking stomach. Go away, come again.
- 3:03:35Never not to come again another day.
- 3:03:37Go away. If I could actually make a song,
- 3:03:40it would be Rob Manfred. Kiss my ass.
- 3:03:43Drop dead. That's my song.
- 3:03:45And how many, how many guys have played almost 20 years in the
- 3:03:48major leagues? Errol, you talk about it all the
- 3:03:50time. How many hitters?
- 3:03:52Rob Manfred, Manfred, whatever you want to call him, he is the,
- 3:03:55there are a lot of bad commissioners.
- 3:03:57Adam Silva, we all know he the LJA, he runs the LJB.
- 3:04:01And then there's Rodger Goodell, who's just keeps stealing and
- 3:04:03stealing and stealing as him and his family have benefits forever
- 3:04:07and a jet to drive in or fly in wherever he wants to go in the
- 3:04:11whole wide world. And he won't even give his own
- 3:04:14and former players full, you know, full compensation after
- 3:04:18they walk away from the game. This guy Rob Manford is the
- 3:04:22worst commissioner in sports. It's not even close.
- 3:04:27He's the worst. So he needs to go and baseball
- 3:04:31players union, everybody need to push him out.
- 3:04:34It should have been Theo Epstein, but now he he's partial
- 3:04:36owner of the Boston, Boston Red Sox.
- 3:04:39I don't think he's going to walk away from that to be the
- 3:04:41commissioner of a professional baseball.
- 3:04:43So that's. Unfortunate.
- 3:04:45You think he's worse. You think he's worse than
- 3:04:46Goodell, Errol? Yes, yes, I he's so bad.
- 3:04:51At least Roderick, I'll tell you what, Rodger Goodell does good.
- 3:04:54Rodger Goodell knows how to sell a product no matter where he
- 3:04:58goes. He's gone to Germany, he's gone
- 3:05:01to England, he's gone all over the world and he's selling the
- 3:05:05product. Rob Manford, the only time, even
- 3:05:08when he went to Japan, nobody wanted to go and see the Major
- 3:05:11League Baseball players. What he did was he put the
- 3:05:14Dodgers there because Otani and all those Japanese players, if
- 3:05:18it was anybody else besides the Dodgers, those games would have
- 3:05:23never sold out in Japan. Fact.
- 3:05:25And I that just shows you what Rob Manfred is.
- 3:05:28He's a piece of shit. That's what he is.
- 3:05:30He's a piece of garbage. He doesn't belong.
- 3:05:32He doesn't help the game of baseball.
- 3:05:34He's ruined the game of baseball.
- 3:05:36And anybody that we've had on this show, unless they're
- 3:05:39working for the MLB or they're trying to protect something,
- 3:05:42every single one of them would tell you how big of a piece of
- 3:05:44garbage Rob Manfred is. And I don't care if I get, I get
- 3:05:47hired from MLB Network, I could give a shit.
- 3:05:50I hope he's gone in the next year.
- 3:05:52I could care less. All right, we'll move on to the
- 3:05:54next one. You kind of hinted at it earlier
- 3:05:56with the Knicks coaching search, but there was a very interesting
- 3:05:58name that was brought up and that was Don Staley, who is
- 3:06:01obviously the great college basketball coach at South
- 3:06:03Carolina many times national championship.
- 3:06:05James Borrego, another name that was mentioned, the former
- 3:06:07Hornets head coach and a couple unconventional ones, but Don
- 3:06:11Staley was one of them. There's never been an obviously
- 3:06:13a woman hired as an NBA coach. Becky Hammond was the only one
- 3:06:16that was interviewed. But try to do their due
- 3:06:19diligence a little more. What are your thoughts on that
- 3:06:21one? I have that.
- 3:06:22It's pretty sick. It's pretty honest.
- 3:06:24OK, I'm I'm I'm going to be pretty honest with this.
- 3:06:27The Knicks are just trying to sell newspapers.
- 3:06:31That's what they're trying to do.
- 3:06:32There was no thought in their minds to hire Dawn Stanley.
- 3:06:36OK, Dawn's she's been very successful in college
- 3:06:39basketball. That's great.
- 3:06:41This is this is the NBA, OK, The NBA and I just I'm sorry.
- 3:06:48LJA, LeBron James Association. If there's anybody that's going
- 3:06:53to be hired, it wouldn't be Dawn Staley.
- 3:06:55And no offense to her, the Knicks are in a big city.
- 3:06:59They're from, you know, James Dolan.
- 3:07:01James Dolan will never allow Dawn Staley being hired as her
- 3:07:05his next head coach. It was never going to be done.
- 3:07:07I understand what the Knicks are trying to do.
- 3:07:09They're trying to sell newspapers and and sell a story.
- 3:07:13This is just a story, guys. Dawn Staley was never going to
- 3:07:16get higher. Maybe Dawn Staley would be a
- 3:07:18great coach in the NBA. She probably would be.
- 3:07:20It's just the Knicks are not the organization that she would go
- 3:07:25to. She has a better chance of
- 3:07:26taking a job with Sacramento or one of these small cities that
- 3:07:30are looking for a little boost. Not New York, not LA, not Miami,
- 3:07:35not any. Maybe Detroit.
- 3:07:37Detroit's another city. Maybe Staley going to Detroit?
- 3:07:40That makes sense. The New York Knicks?
- 3:07:42Not a chance in hell they would. The Knicks and Leon Rose would
- 3:07:45be eaten up alive if they hired Staley.
- 3:07:49Who's the girl with the Spurs? Becky, that's what I was.
- 3:07:51Mentioning before she's. The only one who got the higher
- 3:07:55interviews in the past. Milwaukee I think was the
- 3:07:56closest one before they hired Booth Holzer.
- 3:07:58In New York, it would never. Work and I was going to say that
- 3:08:01too, because he she also has roots in Philadelphia too.
- 3:08:04So I don't know if she would even want to go to New York.
- 3:08:05Obviously has roots. In that has.
- 3:08:07Coaching in South Carolina, so maybe if there's any chance it
- 3:08:10would be a one of those. That would be that would be a
- 3:08:12very Philadelphia thing to do by the.
- 3:08:14Way and that's and that's what I'm.
- 3:08:15Going to that's. What I'm going to lead back to
- 3:08:17with what we're talking with the WMA expansion, I think it's more
- 3:08:19likely maybe she starts something like that, one of
- 3:08:21those new teams in Philadelphia, especially with her having roots
- 3:08:24there and then maybe gain it that way because I think she has
- 3:08:27a reputation as a great coach. As much as we like to take shots
- 3:08:29at Sean Smith with the Gamecocks when he was on our show, they we
- 3:08:32have had the best last decade women's basketball team.
- 3:08:36But I think there will probably be another layer it has to get
- 3:08:38through. Unfortunately.
- 3:08:39We'll get another job. You're right for the Knicks,
- 3:08:40Sagan, James, Borrego and all these other names being thrown.
- 3:08:43First of all, there's no way. I got it.
- 3:08:45I got to attack Carl here, he says.
- 3:08:47Errol's showing why the Knicks never get it done if they are
- 3:08:50trying to sell newspapers. When?
- 3:08:53When is the last time anyone held a newspaper?
- 3:08:55Dude, if you come here to Long Island, you have newspaper guys
- 3:08:59throwing newspapers all over the place.
- 3:09:02There's newspapers all. You have Newsday, The New York
- 3:09:06Times, The Post, there's newspapers still here.
- 3:09:09You go to a bagel shop, you're going to find newspapers.
- 3:09:12And yes, it's all about selling newspapers and selling stories
- 3:09:16on social media. That's what the Knicks are
- 3:09:18trying to do. Leon Rose is one of the most
- 3:09:21intelligent GMs or presidents we've ever had in New York
- 3:09:26sports. The guy knows how to sell
- 3:09:28stories. He's the one who's selling this
- 3:09:31story. Guys, it's not happening.
- 3:09:33It's never it was never going to happen.
- 3:09:36Take that to the bank. It was never happening.
- 3:09:39It's just a stupid story. Sell it, take it, turn it
- 3:09:45sideways and stick it up your straight up candy ass.
- 3:09:48OK, it's never happening. Never.
- 3:09:51We will round it out with the last story of the day.
- 3:09:53Another layer to the Miami Dolphins we were talking about
- 3:09:56in the beginning they trade for and now unretired Darren Waller.
- 3:10:02He. Is just crazy the.
- 3:10:04Giants he apparently unretired. Now the Giants are trading in
- 3:10:07with a seventh round pick for a conditional sixth round pick and
- 3:10:10are trying to join that loaded offense in Miami.
- 3:10:13You know what's so funny about this story?
- 3:10:15Because Kniffin brought it up to me today.
- 3:10:17He says, guess who's coming out of retirement and coming back?
- 3:10:20And I said who? He said Darren Waller.
- 3:10:22I said who? And he said Darren Waller.
- 3:10:24I said, yeah, the tight end that play for the Giants.
- 3:10:27And how many games did he play for the Giants?
- 3:10:29Like 12. He played two years with the
- 3:10:32Giants and play 12 games. Give me a frigging break.
- 3:10:36I love his story. It's a great story about the
- 3:10:39drug addiction that he had and and, and working at a grocery
- 3:10:42store and then making the Ravens or and then he was spotted by
- 3:10:47John John Gruden on the sidelines and then signed him.
- 3:10:51Made a trade after the game. Great story and he was a good
- 3:10:55player. It's not Tom Brady, it's not
- 3:10:57Peyton Manning coming out of retirement.
- 3:10:59I could give a crap if Darren Waller is coming out of
- 3:11:03retirement. Who the hell is Darren Waller?
- 3:11:06He's not a Hall of Famer. He's he at one time.
- 3:11:09What was it, 2 years where he was an elite tight end?
- 3:11:13He's not Travis Kelsey, he's not anybody.
- 3:11:15Hey, if it was like, I don't know, give me a tight end that
- 3:11:19was great in in the time that he was dominant.
- 3:11:22I mean, honestly, give me one. Give me a George.
- 3:11:26No, he's, he's in the league. The guy that's retired?
- 3:11:29I mean, you could even look back at like when for Brady and
- 3:11:32Gronk, when Gronk retired from the Patriots, then he came out
- 3:11:34of. Retirement.
- 3:11:35And he wasn't like phenomenal, but he was still a solid.
- 3:11:40Antonio Pierce. OK, right.
- 3:11:42Antonio Pierce. Who?
- 3:11:43Who's the who's the guy? Antonio Gates?
- 3:11:45Antonio Gates. Antonio Gates.
- 3:11:46I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Antonio Gates.
- 3:11:48If Antonio Gates came out of retirement after like 10 years
- 3:11:53to play to play NFL football, that would be a story.
- 3:11:56The guy's one of the greatest tight ends of all time.
- 3:11:59He hasn't played in a long time and he wants to come back and he
- 3:12:01wants to compete. That's a great story because
- 3:12:04he's a Hall of Famer. This guy Waller, he's never
- 3:12:07going to the Hall of Fame. He's like he's in the hole of
- 3:12:10shame. OK.
- 3:12:11I could give a rat's ass if Darren Waller ever comes back.
- 3:12:17Greg Olson. I'd be more impressed if Greg
- 3:12:19Olson came back from, you know, the broadcasting.
- 3:12:22And by the way, Greg Olson is a great coach.
- 3:12:24He should get a coaching job in in the near future.
- 3:12:26But I Yeah. And if Antonio Gates came out of
- 3:12:29retirement, I'd actually give a crap.
- 3:12:31And I could give a crap about Darren Waller.
- 3:12:33I'm going to say Evan Neil outside, Evan Neil and someone
- 3:12:37outside. Evan Neil, do you bring up Evan
- 3:12:41Neil? No, I'm saying Evan Neil,
- 3:12:43outside of Evan Neil. You said that about six times.
- 3:12:46I swear to God. Evan Neil.
- 3:12:47Evan Neil is like, publicly. Number.
- 3:12:49One nobody, nobody like you, said Arrow.
- 3:12:52Nobody cares because only the fact.
- 3:12:53Scoop sits on the sitter I. Remember exactly the moment when
- 3:12:57Darren Waller actually came into the to the New York Giants?
- 3:12:59It was a little suspect at first, but hey, yeah, two good
- 3:13:02seasons with the Raiders. And pass liquor.
- 3:13:04There's no there's no reason that nobody should be excited or
- 3:13:06anybody even cares about Darren, Wally even coming.
- 3:13:09Out. Blow my back out.
- 3:13:11Coming out of the league for whatsoever.
- 3:13:12I mean, he's not even gonna be a number one option over there in
- 3:13:14Miami. He's not even gonna be the fifth
- 3:13:16or third or fourth option outside of someone like Dylan
- 3:13:19Waddle. Or Jabba like Martin cocktails
- 3:13:21or even the. 2 running backs that we have over there with
- 3:13:24what's his name be the number fifth option outside of those
- 3:13:30four guys I just named right there so.
- 3:13:32I like anal. And on top of that, I also one
- 3:13:35time when he divorced recently, Kelsey Plum.
- 3:13:38Everybody knows, of course, Kelsey Plum.
- 3:13:40That time she was. Double.
- 3:13:41She just went. That's better than he was, yes.
- 3:13:43I literally he he sent out an Instagram post of him singing by
- 3:13:47the way, he's a terrible rapper. He he makes horrible music.
- 3:13:49On top of that. I went and commented saying I
- 3:13:52could see why your wife is a two time champ and you're not, with
- 3:13:56thousands and thousands of comments eating me up for the
- 3:13:59fact that oh he doesn't have. A great quarterback.
- 3:14:02This and that, It doesn't even matter outside of that.
- 3:14:04He had Derek Carr outside of that with those two seasons that
- 3:14:07he actually put up good. Night Robot.
- 3:14:08It doesn't even matter. Like I said, it doesn't even
- 3:14:10matter what Tuga tuga tuga Vailoa who he's even, he might
- 3:14:13not even actually be helpful or if he's even stay.
- 3:14:16Healthy Breaking News A. Lot of hot ladies.
- 3:14:18He's not even going to be a number two or third option.
- 3:14:20He'll be the number fifth option and nobody cares about Darren
- 3:14:22Wall. No I don't.
- 3:14:23I don't get this story. This is a stupid story and and
- 3:14:26and and the reason why I laugh. Maybe Mike McDonald want.
- 3:14:30I mean, maybe Coach McDonald or McDaniels wants to be in the
- 3:14:33next rap album. I don't know.
- 3:14:34Stop. With this crap, Nathan, you
- 3:14:36actually shut the music up, Nathan.
- 3:14:39Nathan actually brought this story, story up to me today.
- 3:14:43He says, guess who's coming? Oh, breaking news.
- 3:14:45Oh, you're not going to believe this.
- 3:14:46Guess who's coming out of retirement?
- 3:14:48I thought it was Tom Brady or Peyton Manning, he says.
- 3:14:51Darren Waller. I was like, what are we
- 3:14:55actually? Bringing up basically.
- 3:14:58Darren Waller. Come on, man.
- 3:15:01Darren Waller. The only the only retirer that
- 3:15:04or unretirer that if it would celebrate more is EJ Perry.
- 3:15:08Ridiculous. But his story is sensational for
- 3:15:11anybody that knows what he's been through when it came to
- 3:15:13opioids and, and, and all the, the trials and tribulations he
- 3:15:18had when he came from high school and then college and, and
- 3:15:21then falling apart. That is a story.
- 3:15:23It is an amazing story. You got to give John Gruden a
- 3:15:26lot of credit for taking a chance with him.
- 3:15:27But for anybody to sit here and brag about Darren Waller coming
- 3:15:31out of retirement, this guy, is he he, he couldn't stay healthy.
- 3:15:36He's he's, he's as important as the Speedy shit stain right now.
- 3:15:40OK, That's as far as I'm concerned.
- 3:15:43That's that's the truth. Speedy, do you have any skid
- 3:15:45marks? No, that's your nickname.
- 3:15:47That's actually Sarge's nickname for you.
- 3:15:48That first of all, who who, who's, who's Ashley?
- 3:15:52Was the nickname he gave you. Listen, just so everybody know,
- 3:15:56first of all, Ashley, Ashley, if you're listening to the show,
- 3:16:00and I'm sure he is because he's a pain in my ass.
- 3:16:02Ashley wants to come on the show, talk a little hockey and
- 3:16:05we maybe I'll get him on the show tomorrow so we could talk
- 3:16:07about the. Rangers and the others.
- 3:16:10I I want to say something, Ashley.
- 3:16:12Ashley, do you remember when we went to the draft in Dallas?
- 3:16:15Remember what I did to that leg of yours?
- 3:16:17You be careful. Man.
- 3:16:19You be careful, man. You know, I could tell that
- 3:16:21story. I could embarrass you on live
- 3:16:23radio. Anyways, we have one more
- 3:16:26segment of the night and we call that.
- 3:16:29What's that smell? Hold up, what is that smell?
- 3:16:33What's that? Smell.
- 3:16:39Wow, you don't see that every day.
- 3:16:42Breaking news Fish is a grumpy old man.
- 3:16:47All right, ladies and gentlemen, we have the boys and we're going
- 3:16:49to give them an opportunity too. Why not?
- 3:16:52They're they're our interns. They've done a great job.
- 3:16:54Jake, Aaron, Zach will be back tomorrow.
- 3:16:57So let's do it with them. All right, so here's the story.
- 3:17:00This is how we're going to do it.
- 3:17:01Anything you could join us too? It's very simple.
- 3:17:04We're going to we're going to give you a story that's happened
- 3:17:06over the last past week and we're going to tell you what it
- 3:17:09smells like. All right, we're going to go
- 3:17:11first. We're going to go with scoops.
- 3:17:14We're going to go with Aaron, Jake, Nathan.
- 3:17:18Well, I don't have a story for this one all.
- 3:17:20Right one up, Nathan. We'll take, we'll take Nathan
- 3:17:23out. All right, we'll take Nathan
- 3:17:25out. Then we'll have Speedy Jabba me.
- 3:17:28Here we go, all. Right, let's let's get the music
- 3:17:31going. Let's go.
- 3:17:31You're the one who spits it out. All right, so.
- 3:17:34Speedy. 'S mom over?
- 3:17:36This past weekend we had AWWE event known as Night of
- 3:17:40Champions where they had over in Saudi Arabia.
- 3:17:43I just have to come on and say that's called Saudi Arabia pay
- 3:17:46per views, that they've had been going on since 2:00. 1018 or.
- 3:17:50Whatever or have been absolutely atrocious a lot of these Saudi
- 3:17:53pay per views. Are not I'll let you lick my
- 3:17:54butt. And it's really just, I don't, I
- 3:17:57don't know what it is with the quality of wrestling right now.
- 3:17:59I do say Triple H is doing a really good job with the way
- 3:18:02wrestling has been going on and his booking.
- 3:18:04But however the Saudi paper, he's got to go.
- 3:18:07You got Crown Jewel, the United Champions, that was a bust and
- 3:18:09are going to not going to go anywhere as it's going to be in
- 3:18:12Royal Rumble next year. A lot of the matches didn't
- 3:18:15deliver. I mean, you had the king of the
- 3:18:16ring, OK, sure. The queen of the ring.
- 3:18:18A lot of people weren't happy about that.
- 3:18:20You even had the last time ever John Cena was on his retirement
- 3:18:23tour against CM Punk, which was a pretty underwhelming match
- 3:18:27considering these guys have had great matches in the past
- 3:18:30before. So what does it smell like?
- 3:18:31It smells like some Saudi Arabia sand that Triple H shoved up his
- 3:18:36underpants. So there we go there.
- 3:18:39You go. All right.
- 3:18:39So this is something I saw I think within the past week, I
- 3:18:43want to say on Twitter, I had thought of it, this would be
- 3:18:45good for this segment. I don't know if any of you guys
- 3:18:48saw it, but there is if there was a video out there with
- 3:18:51someone trying to get Kelsey Plum to sign one of their their
- 3:18:55rookie cards or like that. And she was very turned off by
- 3:18:59it, didn't want to do it. I mean, it was an older
- 3:19:02gentleman, but he seemed very nice.
- 3:19:05She was very standoffish. She ended up signing it anyway.
- 3:19:08But I was sitting there watching that video and going, man,
- 3:19:11everyone, everyone's complaining about the WNBA, how they don't
- 3:19:14get what they want, the money that they want or, or the views
- 3:19:17that they that they want and they want more people to watch
- 3:19:20them. But then you see stuff like this
- 3:19:21and go, OK, you're only hurting your brand by doing this.
- 3:19:26And then you also see the stuff with Caitlin Clark and go, OK,
- 3:19:29this one generational player is trying to save your, your the
- 3:19:34entire league, but you guys are not willing to pursue other
- 3:19:38things and, and be nice to not even be just just be a normal
- 3:19:41person. Someone's asking to sign
- 3:19:42someone, just sign it. Like to me, I just, I thought it
- 3:19:45was just like you're, you're just ruining your sport.
- 3:19:48Like just just do what you got to do to help your league at the
- 3:19:52end of the day. So to me it's not like it was
- 3:19:55shitting on their own league, essentially just taking a big
- 3:19:57ass doogie on their league and that's it.
- 3:20:00The other one, Aaron, too, I don't know if you saw it too, if
- 3:20:02you guys saw it, where that girl was sitting courtside, She had a
- 3:20:05Caton shirt on. She brought over their shirt and
- 3:20:09she told the girl to do better. I didn't see that.
- 3:20:12But like, you see, it's like, I don't understand the narrative.
- 3:20:16Like, yeah, I get it. Like I think everyone wants to
- 3:20:18at least see some some sort of like uphill battle with them.
- 3:20:22Like they want to see the League do good.
- 3:20:24But then at the end of the day, they're just ruining you for
- 3:20:27themselves. I don't know, Maybe that's the
- 3:20:28way I see it, but I saw that and I I got, I was like, that
- 3:20:32doesn't make any sense. All right, Yeah, So for my
- 3:20:34story, I'm going to go to the NBA.
- 3:20:36Obviously we're right in the middle of NBA free agency, so
- 3:20:38there's a lot of great moves. I'm sure we'll get into that in
- 3:20:40tomorrow's show. But the one I wanted to point to
- 3:20:42was the OR the the free agency move of Miles Turner leaving the
- 3:20:47Indiana Pacers and going to the Milwaukee Bucks on I believe it
- 3:20:51was like a four year, $109 million contract.
- 3:20:54Literally just, you know, weeks or even days after they lost the
- 3:20:58NBA Finals heartbreaking Game 7 to the Oklahoma City Thunder
- 3:21:03when they were one game away, they went on an improbable run.
- 3:21:05It was unbelievable. And the Pacers owners, they
- 3:21:10don't want to pay Miles Turner, who's been there Center for like
- 3:21:14for their franchise for the last like 5 to 8 tennis plus years,
- 3:21:18all because Tyrese Halliburton went down with a horrific
- 3:21:21injury. You don't want to keep this team
- 3:21:22together and try to compete and let alone you go to go to
- 3:21:25Milwaukee, your your main rival after they just cut and waved
- 3:21:28Damian Lillard. Like what, what, what kind of
- 3:21:31logic is that? Like you're just going to throw
- 3:21:33in the town and give up on one year after you just went to the
- 3:21:35finals and we're one game away from winning a championship.
- 3:21:38You're going to throw away one of your key contributors and
- 3:21:40pieces and let him walk to your main rival That?
- 3:21:44That smells like deep, bloody betrayal to me.
- 3:21:47And the shitty smell of a dead deer carcass.
- 3:21:50There you. Go.
- 3:21:52That smells fitted very well with the Milwaukee Bucks steam.
- 3:21:55All right, I'll shift to some hockey.
- 3:21:58These are two Boston radio hosts, Mike Felger and Tony
- 3:22:01Maserati, who took shots at the Bruins claiming that they draft
- 3:22:04too many local prospects, allegedly.
- 3:22:07Well, let's see how many prospects they drafted are from
- 3:22:09New England, Not their first round pick and James Hagan's.
- 3:22:11We know Errol's a Long Island guy.
- 3:22:13They drafted another New Yorker in the third round.
- 3:22:16They drafted a Swedish kid in the second round in Liam
- 3:22:19Peterson and a later draft pick from Minnesota.
- 3:22:21So let's see how many New England prospects are coming
- 3:22:23from there. None to go with that.
- 3:22:26So good job geography goodies. Sony's geography looks better
- 3:22:29than yours at this point. And even if you wanted to not
- 3:22:32like even if you wanted to just reference the northeast,
- 3:22:34Northeast is a good hotbed for hockey.
- 3:22:37So like, why is it a bad thing for them to draft local
- 3:22:39prospects just because of a few of them in workout?
- 3:22:42So what does that smell like? Don't like this one?
- 3:22:44And it smells like a sweaty Kevin Yuklas being knocked out
- 3:22:47by you into a barrel of rotten baked.
- 3:22:50Beans. Hey.
- 3:22:54I just had baked beans the other day, they're good.
- 3:22:57Yeah, but you're knocking him into a a container of rotten
- 3:23:00baked. Beans OK rotten you're not gonna
- 3:23:02rot sound all right I'm going to switch to baseball and I don't
- 3:23:06know if you guys seen this, but this dumbass Dave McCaskill,
- 3:23:11it's been four years in a row of interfering God plays left
- 3:23:15center. He's he's kind of, they try to
- 3:23:17emulate him and his buddies have a contest and they're kind of
- 3:23:21like the Zach Hampel of the other side.
- 3:23:23And, and he, he gives an interview and he's like, yeah,
- 3:23:27I've only been ejected twice. And so he is now banned for 2025
- 3:23:34for the rest of the year. And he can come back in 2026 if
- 3:23:39he follows all the rules. I talked to a colleague of ours
- 3:23:44and Megan Plain who actually did an interview with him and she
- 3:23:47was like, you know, it was interesting.
- 3:23:50He's very, very proud of what he did.
- 3:23:51But you know, when it comes to interfering with games and
- 3:23:54outcomes of games, and I just, I don't like it.
- 3:23:57And then you are proud of it. And you you say you vote.
- 3:24:01You've already gotten thrown out twice.
- 3:24:03Like, OK, maybe once you know, you get a little overzealous and
- 3:24:07you reach out because you're excited.
- 3:24:09But then again, and then now you're banned it it just shows
- 3:24:12that you I have little little leaner man syndrome and it
- 3:24:16sounds like he didn't use his dude wipes and he wipes back to
- 3:24:19front. As long as she's using dude
- 3:24:21wipes and taking care of my 2 hole, I'm good.
- 3:24:27All right, the final. Oh sorry, I was just going to
- 3:24:29say really quick. I know a lot of baseball fans
- 3:24:32have their opinions on him, but like, it's players.
- 3:24:34Do you hate Zach Ample too? I just had to now ask.
- 3:24:37Oh, he's annoying his balls. OK, I, I mean, I get, I get
- 3:24:43like, I mean he's wrote books and whatever, but why he does
- 3:24:48it, it, it, it annoys me and like he'll literally steal balls
- 3:24:51from kids. Yeah, no, I I just wanted to
- 3:24:54know, but that makes sense. All right, my final What's that
- 3:24:58smell goes to one of my worst hated players in NFL history,
- 3:25:05Rodney Harrison to be inducted into the Chargers Hall of Fame
- 3:25:11during 2025 season. I love this Ronnie Harris is set
- 3:25:16to be honored by the club that drafted him.
- 3:25:19The chargers announced on Monday that they will be inducting
- 3:25:22Harrison into the team's Hall of Fame during halftime of their
- 3:25:27week, a Thursday Night Football game against the Minnesota
- 3:25:30Vikings on October 23rd. Rodney Harrison is is explained
- 3:25:35as his physicality, his emotion, his relentlessness, his effort,
- 3:25:40his toughness in his grit. The only thing I remember of
- 3:25:44Ronnie Harrison is Super Bowl 2O7 when he was trying to catch
- 3:25:50on, intercept the ball and David Tyree steals the ball and
- 3:25:56catches it with his helmet and cost, yes, the New England
- 3:26:01Patriots Super Bowl on what, undefeated season?
- 3:26:05You know what that smells like? It smells like an absolute shit
- 3:26:09stain loser that Rodney Harrison is.
- 3:26:12And by the way, probably you could pull that wedgie out of
- 3:26:15Phillip Rivers ass. There you go.
- 3:26:17So that's about it. And by the way, for all the
- 3:26:20Phillip Rivers haters out there, you can kiss my ass because
- 3:26:23Phillip Rivers is a Hall of Famer.
- 3:26:26That's what I'm going to say. When are we going to get Steve
- 3:26:29Weich bat back on the show? Well, I want Steve on the show
- 3:26:33because Steve is going to be kissing my ass after he goes to
- 3:26:36the Hall of Fame. That's what Steve's going to be
- 3:26:38doing. He's going to be you know what
- 3:26:40I'm going to do after he takes me out to a steak dinner.
- 3:26:42I'm going to tell I'm going to have him and his wife at the
- 3:26:44dinner table and I'm going to say, you know what, I'll pay for
- 3:26:47dinner. You know what you're going to
- 3:26:48do? I'm going to pull down my pants
- 3:26:49and you're going to kiss my left cheek and you're going to do it
- 3:26:52in front of all these people out here.
- 3:26:54And then I'm going to send it to ESPNNFL network and I'm going to
- 3:26:58show you how big of a idiot you are when you came out and said
- 3:27:01that Philip Rivers is in a Hall of Famer.
- 3:27:03So I don't know, Steve, I love you, but you're out of your damn
- 3:27:06mind. For all the people.
- 3:27:08TJ Ward, you're out of your damn mind.
- 3:27:10Eli Manning, Ben Roethlisberger and Philip Rivers are in a Hall
- 3:27:15of Famer. That was a crazy take.
- 3:27:16We got to take that and cut that baby.
- 3:27:18Oh, I did already. That is that is absolutely.
- 3:27:21He went. He went Eli Ben, right?
- 3:27:25Yeah, when I was making that clip for Instagram and I was
- 3:27:29going back and rewatching, I was like, I couldn't believe he said
- 3:27:31that. And I was like, if he doesn't
- 3:27:33think any of those guys is over, going like no quarterback in
- 3:27:36this current league aside from maybe Mahomes, I'm like, must be
- 3:27:40at all eligible. Because if that's his logic,
- 3:27:43that's crazy. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.
- 3:27:44And by the way, he said Eli Manning first.
- 3:27:47Yeah, Eli Manning won two Super Bowls, and I know fish was have.
- 3:27:51He was getting a hard on when he heard that.
- 3:27:53He was like, Oh my God. Oh, my God.
- 3:27:56Listen, I understand he's the name.
- 3:27:59He's Eli Manning. He's Peyton Manning's brother.
- 3:28:01The fact is, he even said, I said who was the better player?
- 3:28:05He said you didn't ask me that and he knows the truth.
- 3:28:08Philip Rivers was the better player out of all three of them.
- 3:28:10So how could you say Eli Manning, who, Yes, he won two
- 3:28:14Super Bowls. Yes, he has a name.
- 3:28:16Should go to the Hall of Fame ahead of Ben Roethlisberger and
- 3:28:19Philip. That didn't make any sense.
- 3:28:21TJ. Where are you coming from, man?
- 3:28:23What are you smoking? Anyways?
- 3:28:26I just had to say that we love you, TJ.
- 3:28:28We can't wait for you to come back on the show.
- 3:28:29No one be hating on my guy. I'm not hating on him, I was
- 3:28:32just. We know he's smoking, he's
- 3:28:35smoking, he's smoking the Nathan shrimp cocktail.
- 3:28:37All right, we got to go. Congratulations to Preston
- 3:28:40Carey. Keep listening to us on Spotify,
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- 3:29:26guest on July 16th, Wednesday at 9:00 PM.
- 3:29:29Who is it? Matthew Dennis.
- 3:29:31He was at the Fanatics games this year.
- 3:29:33He was the one of the the fans that competed.
- 3:29:36He was in 3rd place. He got 250250K from Tom Brady.
- 3:29:41Yeah. Where's he's coming on the show?
- 3:29:42Where's my 2? 150K Tell him, hey, Tommy, first
- 3:29:47of all, you were supposed to get me that thing over there in the
- 3:29:50Hamptons with Tom Brady. You never got that for me, you
- 3:29:52little piece. They.
- 3:29:53Never answered back. Bend over.
- 3:29:56Show everybody that ass, that Indian ass.
- 3:29:58Show them that Indian ass. As long as she's using dude
- 3:30:02watch and taking care of my 2 hole, I'm good.
- 3:30:04This makes my pecker harder anyways, that's it for our show
- 3:30:07ladies and gentlemen we'll be back tomorrow.
- 3:30:09We'll have fish back we'll have Zach here.
- 3:30:11We'll have the whole show and maybe we'll add king of the hill
- 3:30:14because we never get a chance. We got to do that that whole UFC
- 3:30:18mixed martial arts thing. That wouldn't be fair because it
- 3:30:20would probably just be me and Jake.
- 3:30:22That wouldn't have been fair. What is fish thinking?
- 3:30:24I don't I don't get it. Hey, you're not going to give me
- 3:30:27any credit on the UFCI Didn't say that.
- 3:30:29I didn't say that. But I I I listen to Jake and I
- 3:30:32listen to his take. I I just it's going to be hard
- 3:30:35to to attack this guy when it comes to his takes when it comes
- 3:30:38to mixed martial arts, You probably you probably have the
- 3:30:41third most knowledge on the show about mixed martial arts.
- 3:30:43So it would have been I'm the only one that's ever had a deal
- 3:30:46with the UFC. So right there, there, you
- 3:30:48child, there you show. All right, you want to show your
- 3:30:50ass? Show everybody your ass.
- 3:30:52I mean, I got Birthmark on my right cheek.
- 3:30:55There you go. Me too.
- 3:30:56Is that what your future wife is looking at right now after the
- 3:31:01show? Sitting down, you stupid ass.
- 3:31:03How do we know you're sitting? Maybe you're sitting on her.
- 3:31:08That would be silence. I'm losing my mind tonight.
- 3:31:12I'm losing my voice. I'm losing everything.
- 3:31:14Anyways, that's it for a show. We'll be back tomorrow.
- 3:31:17Goodnight it. It it's the worldwide sports
- 3:31:20radio network, Radio network.