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Faith Fuels Creativity: How God Shapes Our Stories and Lives | Episode 224 · Voices for Voices®

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Justin Alan Hayes: Welcome to this episode of the Voices for Voices TV show and podcast.
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Justin Alan Hayes: I am your host, founder and executive director of Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes.
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Justin Alan Hayes: So we are going to pick up our conversation with Scott, otherwise known as EdgiScript his username You've probably heard of him Spiritman and we're going to pick up our part two of the conversation, where Scott was talking about an individual who is now near and dear to his keep up to date with you and all that fun stuff.
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Justin Alan Hayes: So, Scott, go ahead and pick it up as you'd like.
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Scott Edgiscript: Oh, thank you.
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Scott Edgiscript: Yeah, and I just wanted to say real quick, when the last one just kind of cut off like that, I started laughing when we were disconnected because I was like you see, god, I'm so glad we just proved.
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Scott Edgiscript: I don't know what I'm doing.
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Justin Alan Hayes: So yeah.
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Scott Edgiscript: So no, but I really I'm.
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Scott Edgiscript: I'm actually appreciative of those moments.
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Scott Edgiscript: Right now in my life I've come to a place where I've said, you know, thank you God for making me look less so anything that happens, you lift you, glorify yourself.
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Scott Edgiscript: That's one of my prayers throughout the later part of my life is glorify yourself, don't lift me up.
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Scott Edgiscript: I don't need to be lifted up.
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Scott Edgiscript: I'm very happy to explain to anybody how I am incompetent and I can't do this, but but anyway, where where was it?
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Scott Edgiscript: Yes, I was talking about Dragon's Tower, and she's an amazing, amazing person who's just been such an inspiration in my life too.
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Scott Edgiscript: But but where I was going with that too was just to say just, I was thanking God.
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Scott Edgiscript: In that you've given me, you know, if nothing else happens, if I don't see any other fruit, this was enough.
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Scott Edgiscript: You know, I've touched someone's life deeply and I just thank God for that.
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Scott Edgiscript: So anyway, that was kind of going around with that.
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Scott Edgiscript: Sometimes it's hard to see why God has put us in the place he has.
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Scott Edgiscript: It was kind of where I was going with that.
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Scott Edgiscript: I don't know when else should we go.
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Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah, I mean it's really detailed.
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Justin Alan Hayes: On that.
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Justin Alan Hayes: I find myself a lot the old adage, you know, plant a seed, it'll, it'll grow eventually.
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Justin Alan Hayes: I have a hard time, after I plant the seed, to take a step back.
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Justin Alan Hayes: I'm I'm always trying to like, watch it, watch it, watch it, and then and then sometimes be a lot of times, be disappointed and I go well, why isn't it growing?
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Justin Alan Hayes: I did this thing with put this seed and uh, and and I think that's a that's a hard thing for a lot of people is is to have that, that patience, especially with how digitized everything's come with their phones and, uh, how connected we are.
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Justin Alan Hayes: Like, oh well, I did this thing, I did this project, so it should automatically bear the fruit.
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Justin Alan Hayes: And and then we get into, uh, you know, comparing ourselves to others that may have been doing things longer than us.
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Justin Alan Hayes: Uh, and yeah, I do that all all the time.
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Justin Alan Hayes: But uh, you know, look at, you know things my parents have and what they've done, and it's like, well, it's taken so many years for them to be where they're at.
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Justin Alan Hayes: So I can't really compare myself as well as another organization that has been around for 100 years and we've been around for five to say, oh well, why aren't these things happening?
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Justin Alan Hayes: And I find myself in those ruts and so I definitely follow what you're talking about.
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Justin Alan Hayes: It's not for me, it's for God, and at the end of the day, once we're gone, it's going to me.
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Justin Alan Hayes: You know, it's for, it's for God, and uh, and at the end of the day, once, once we're gone, um, it's going to be those good deeds as people that we've touched that are going to really take our legacy.
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Justin Alan Hayes: Um, cause, we even think of presidents and supposed important people, and now, with the Pope passing and there's, there's only so many people that get kind of remembered.
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Justin Alan Hayes: So if we're in it for you know all the glory and the fame for ourselves, uh, it doesn't matter.
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Justin Alan Hayes: We're not going to be remembered like we.
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Justin Alan Hayes: We think we are and I think that's a hard thing to handle, yeah, the.
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Scott Edgiscript: The history books in heaven, I believe, are much different than the history books on earth.
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Scott Edgiscript: And that's one of the things.
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Scott Edgiscript: And your show is about mental health and you have a focus on mental health, and I think that's one of the most important things, for proper mental health is to realize just how worthless you are and how much worth God has placed on you.
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Scott Edgiscript: You can do nothing on your own To take a deep breath.
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Scott Edgiscript: That breath itself was gracious from God.
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Scott Edgiscript: You don't deserve it.
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Scott Edgiscript: You didn't earn it.
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Scott Edgiscript: You did nothing to make it happen.
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Scott Edgiscript: You didn't put this earth in place.
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Scott Edgiscript: You didn't create the atmosphere.
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Scott Edgiscript: You didn't build your own lungs.
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Scott Edgiscript: You didn't do anything.
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Scott Edgiscript: God gave it to you because God said you're worth it.
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Scott Edgiscript: Few years.
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Scott Edgiscript: And one of the things that, uh, one of the things that jumped out at me was that we, we, we don't see the creation of man right off the bat.
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Scott Edgiscript: We see, you know he builds everything else up to that point and it was all for man.
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Scott Edgiscript: He was building the house he was building, uh, and there there's a.
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Scott Edgiscript: There's a lot to this I won't get into here.
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Scott Edgiscript: Take three days, but he was building a house for his bride.
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Scott Edgiscript: It's one of the pictures that we should see in that and did.
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Scott Edgiscript: One of the things that hit me is man did nothing to deserve any of it.
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Scott Edgiscript: He didn't even exist.
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Scott Edgiscript: How could he have done anything to have said God, I deserve what you're giving me when, when he wasn't even in the picture?
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Scott Edgiscript: You know God?
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Scott Edgiscript: God formed the mountains, formed the seas, uh, created the plants, made the animals.
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Scott Edgiscript: He was setting it up for his beloved, and his beloved didn't even exist yet there's nothing man could have possibly done.
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Scott Edgiscript: That's a picture of grace.
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Scott Edgiscript: That's a picture of undeserved, unmerited favor.
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Scott Edgiscript: God said Justin, I love you and I'm going to give everything for you, long before you were ever a thought on this planet, long before you existed as a human being.
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Scott Edgiscript: And that's what I try.
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Scott Edgiscript: That's what I try my hardest, and I fail, like everyone else, but I try my hardest to focus everything I do on God.
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Scott Edgiscript: What makes you happy?
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Scott Edgiscript: Because this life is but a vapor.
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Scott Edgiscript: It's going to be gone.
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Scott Edgiscript: I don't care if you live to be a thousand.
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Scott Edgiscript: This life, in comparison to eternity, is gone.
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Scott Edgiscript: So it's like to me, I relate it to, it's like sitting down and playing monopoly.
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Scott Edgiscript: Yeah, you want to win, you want to do good.
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Scott Edgiscript: It is this fun game and all that, but at the end of the day, the board gets put away and you keep going with your life.
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Scott Edgiscript: That game was just a half hour hour, whatever it takes to, however long it takes to play, and whether you won or lost is irrelevant to you now living your life, and that's this life that we're in here.
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Scott Edgiscript: I relate it to a game we're we're playing this game for, for what's going to happen after this game.
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Scott Edgiscript: This, the board game, closes.
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Scott Edgiscript: We box it up, we put it away and now we step into eternity.
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Scott Edgiscript: Uh, now, now that life is what matters, uh, uh, everything that happens here is, uh, the only thing that matters is God.
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Scott Edgiscript: How am I pleasing you?
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Scott Edgiscript: How did I make you happy?
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Scott Edgiscript: How did I make you smile with what I did?
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Scott Edgiscript: Because then, for the rest of eternity, we're going to reap that reward.
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Scott Edgiscript: And I don't know, I guess I'll I'll stop with that thought.
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Scott Edgiscript: What you got, anything?
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Justin Alan Hayes: no, no, thanks for going into depth, because I, I mean, I, I, uh, I love to learn and and to kind of be refreshed, and and I like your analogy, the board game, where, yep, you're playing your own ball and then the game ends at a certain point and it goes in back into the box and, well, you know, life kind of continues and even when you know we have loved ones, that that passed, uh, really wrote the the same, the same thing, go through grieving and go through grieving at different levels, but at some point it's like, okay, well, the ceremony is going to be over, the burial or whatever instructions that are being done, the calling hours and all that.
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Justin Alan Hayes: Then there's going to be a point where, okay, well, that part's done, and so then it's really up to us to keep them alive in our minds and our spirits.
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Justin Alan Hayes: And that part is really hard even just to think about.
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Justin Alan Hayes: Like, oh, my gosh, like, well, that's gonna be me someday, and then people are just gonna, they're just gonna go get a hold of their lives like oh my gosh, like I thought.
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Justin Alan Hayes: I thought I was, you know, the important person and that and it's like well you know it, uh, my, my cousin, he, he said best we were, uh, we were together a long time and and he said he's like I've been to graceland, and he said you know what's missing?
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Justin Alan Hayes: And I said so I don't know.
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Justin Alan Hayes: And he goes well, all of these things are there, but all this isn't there.
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Justin Alan Hayes: So you can accumulate whatever we want house, car, boat, what have.
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Justin Alan Hayes: You can't take it with you.
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Justin Alan Hayes: And I think that just a good reminder and it really kind of just brings that perspective down to where it is.
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Justin Alan Hayes: I'm guilty of having an ego and you know time yeah, time to time and and I do okay.
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Justin Alan Hayes: Well, when you get, when you kind of get brought back down to the earth and back down to life and uh, like, wow, like what, what's actually going to happen?
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Justin Alan Hayes: And then to your, your point and you know point and the purpose, and why are we here?
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Justin Alan Hayes: And we're here for a reason and many reasons, and some we know, some we won't find out and others will.
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Scott Edgiscript: Yeah, I want to share.
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Scott Edgiscript: There's a friend of mine who's a missionary I want to share.
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Scott Edgiscript: There's a friend of mine who's a missionary and he is a missionary to Mexico and he's a Mexican citizen, came across illegally years ago and he and he jokes about how he would.
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Scott Edgiscript: He was living in LA and the the the agents would come once a week and they would say, yep, you're not supposed to be here, come back, and they deport him.
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Scott Edgiscript: And by that afternoon he was back because he knew how to get back in.
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Scott Edgiscript: And you know they would, they would deport him out and he would just be right back.
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Scott Edgiscript: And it was just a cyclical thing.
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Scott Edgiscript: They just kept doing their job, deporting him.
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Scott Edgiscript: He just kept coming right back and he said that one time, coming right back, and he said that one time.
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Scott Edgiscript: So he moved to Iowa, which is where he moved to Iowa and he's working a factory job and this little Jewish guy wants to keep telling about Jesus and he and he's sick of it, he doesn't want anything to do with it and he keeps telling this guy, get away from me.
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Scott Edgiscript: Oh, I'm sorry, you cool, yeah, yeah, my daughter.
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Justin Alan Hayes: She's trying to like whisper, like whisper, and I'm trying to yeah, everything, everything's good.
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Justin Alan Hayes: No, that's totally cool, yeah anyway, yeah we just had a former uh neighbor where we used live, and she brought an Easter basket for her.
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Scott Edgiscript: And my wife's in the basement.
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Justin Alan Hayes: I'm up here and she's like she's got to go to the dentist.
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Justin Alan Hayes: She's in her car.
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Justin Alan Hayes: I was like, well, give her a hug, say thanks.
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Justin Alan Hayes: She's like no, no, she's already gone.
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Scott Edgiscript: Anyway, sorry, I didn't mean to cut you, no, that's okay, uh, but, uh, hey, once again, proof, it's not about us, um, but this guy, he said he kept, he kept, this guy kept witnessing to my friend.
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Scott Edgiscript: Finally, he says you tell me about jesus one more time, I'm gonna beat the living snot out of you.
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Scott Edgiscript: And he kept going.
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Scott Edgiscript: So this guy with a few of his friends meet him after work outside and they beat him up and he essentially doesn't see him again, leaves that job, goes somewhere else and about a year later he accepts Jesus as a savior and he said and that guy was one of the reasons as a savior.
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Scott Edgiscript: And he said and that guy was one of the reasons.
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Scott Edgiscript: Because he said that, uh, that guy, uh, was willing to be beaten up for this.
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Scott Edgiscript: And he said, uh, uh, that guy just wouldn't give up.
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Scott Edgiscript: And he said that that just kept eating at him and and he and he, he was like it.
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Scott Edgiscript: It must really mean something, this must be real, if he was willing to go through that for me, uh, for this.
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Scott Edgiscript: And.
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Scott Edgiscript: But the thing about the thing I always remember about that story that that makes an impact to me is that guy that he said he was one of the reasons.
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Scott Edgiscript: I, I don't believe he knows you know what happened.
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Scott Edgiscript: So, and that that's why I say it's important to understand.
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Scott Edgiscript: I'm here, I have to obey God when God says go, he knows what he's doing.
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Scott Edgiscript: You might never see the results, that's okay, you don't have to.
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Scott Edgiscript: You just got to trust him that he knows what's going on.
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Scott Edgiscript: So that guy never saw the results of this guy not only turning his life to Christ, but now he's a missionary and he's reaching hundreds, thousands of other people and he's touching lives and he's reaching out to hurting souls that need him.
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Scott Edgiscript: And this one guy might be going.
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Scott Edgiscript: God, you know what's happening.
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Scott Edgiscript: Why am I doing this?
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Scott Edgiscript: I'm not seeing anything.
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Justin Alan Hayes: Wow, when you're in your creative space, is that, is that time that you, uh, you set aside, or is it moments that come up and you're like okay, I gotta stop what I'm doing and I gotta get this down?
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Scott Edgiscript: I'm just, I'm just curious on how that and I know it's probably like- yeah, a lot of different things well, for me it's um, I there there is a small percentage, I'd say about 20 is just.
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Scott Edgiscript: I should work on this, just focus, just sit down, make it happen, uh.
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Scott Edgiscript: But I don't like to do that.
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Scott Edgiscript: As much as possible, I, I want it to be just flowing and it has to come out of me, uh.
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Scott Edgiscript: But there is a certain amount of discipline where you say, look, just set everything else aside and focus.
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Scott Edgiscript: But usually what I try to do is, when I come up with an inspiration for something, when something hits me, write it down, write it down at that moment.
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Scott Edgiscript: And usually I can't write it down.
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Scott Edgiscript: I don't have a pen or paper.
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Scott Edgiscript: So I will, I'll grab my phone, I'll pull up my email and I will email myself, and I will, and I will text hey, this is my idea, and so I send that email to myself, so I don't forget it.
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Scott Edgiscript: And then, when?
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Scott Edgiscript: Then what?
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Scott Edgiscript: What's going on is?
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Scott Edgiscript: I'm working, I'm doing other stuff and I'm constantly thinking, oh, that I got to get in on that, I get, I get hungry for it.
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Scott Edgiscript: So then my first free moment, it's like when I jump in.
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Scott Edgiscript: The juices have been flowing and and I just start writing and I start creating, because it's already been working in my mind for a long time Now.
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Scott Edgiscript: When that?
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Scott Edgiscript: When does that inspiration come?
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Scott Edgiscript: I don't know.
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Scott Edgiscript: You know it just happens Sometimes.
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Scott Edgiscript: It doesn't come.
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Scott Edgiscript: It doesn't come.
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Scott Edgiscript: And you're like, you know, I'm honest, maybe with Spirit man you're like I really told him I'd get him the next comic.
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Scott Edgiscript: I told the artist, paul, I'll get him the next comic and I got to get this done.
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Scott Edgiscript: You know, and you'll sit and you'll focus and you'll and and you'll work on it.
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Scott Edgiscript: And for me personally, the most difficult thing about writing is the blank page to start with.
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Scott Edgiscript: It's it's oh my goodness, it's crazy difficult.
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Scott Edgiscript: Oh my goodness, it's crazy difficult.
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Scott Edgiscript: I might have a few ideas about how it goes, but I don't know how to start and get there to that point, or what have you?
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Scott Edgiscript: Once, it's like once I start writing it the, the damn breaks.
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Scott Edgiscript: It's like what?
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Scott Edgiscript: Sometimes I will write something that sounds dumb, just to get something on the page, or I'll write a skeletal version of it.
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Scott Edgiscript: I won't write in depth, I'll just.
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Scott Edgiscript: I'll just write how are you doing?
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Scott Edgiscript: I'm fine, I need to get this done.
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Scott Edgiscript: Ok, then let's do it.
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Scott Edgiscript: And you know, a very bare bones version that does not sound good at all, but I'm getting the general plot or the general idea of what's happening out.
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Scott Edgiscript: And then when I go back and reread it, it's like now my mind is not focused on creating something, it's following along with that and now things start to flow.
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Scott Edgiscript: At that point, now I start to speak more naturally.
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Scott Edgiscript: Now I'm'm.
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Scott Edgiscript: You know, I wouldn't say it like that, I'd say it like this, and and now it starts to become flesh and not just a skeleton.
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Justin Alan Hayes: That's how I work, so uh, an individual who, uh, I guess what might be, things or topics that an individual as they're growing up might reveal to them or to their teachers or family, that writing, creating might be a way that they want to go and they want to at least try out.
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Justin Alan Hayes: Do you have any, maybe insight?
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Justin Alan Hayes: And I know it's probably there's no one one size fits all, but just kind of overall yeah, no, you're definitely right with that.
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Scott Edgiscript: That one size does you know?
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Scott Edgiscript: Definitely that does not fit all uh.
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Scott Edgiscript: Some advice I would give to people who are thinking about it is uh one, uh.
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Scott Edgiscript: Treat it like you will never make a dime.
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Scott Edgiscript: Treat it like you will never see any money from this at all.
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Scott Edgiscript: Just assume right now you will never have a career in this.
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Scott Edgiscript: You will never make any money whatsoever.
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Scott Edgiscript: Do you still want to do it?
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Scott Edgiscript: And if the answer is yes, then go for it, because then it's a passion growing within you.
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Scott Edgiscript: Now I'm not saying that certain people can't have good careers and make lots of money in things they don't really love.
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Scott Edgiscript: I mean, I have many jobs that I've had in my life I've been very good at and I'm professional and I care and I do the best for my employer, but I have never had one job that I've said.
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Scott Edgiscript: This is the job is why I'm here.
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Scott Edgiscript: The money is why I'm here.
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Scott Edgiscript: I need to make a living.
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Scott Edgiscript: I need to pay the bills.
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Scott Edgiscript: I've longed for a job.
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Scott Edgiscript: You don't have to pay me, I just want to be here.
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Scott Edgiscript: I've never had one, so I'm not worried about making money off of this.
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Scott Edgiscript: I mean, I would love to make money off of this.
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Scott Edgiscript: If my novel sold a million copies, you know if, if spirit man, if it took off, became a major motion picture or something like that, I wouldn't complain.
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Scott Edgiscript: But I'm not looking for that.
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Scott Edgiscript: I love to do this, whether I make a single dime on it ever.
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Scott Edgiscript: And quite frankly, paul and I for Spirit man we put a lot more money into it than we've seen back.
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Scott Edgiscript: We give away the comic as much as possible because we see it as more of a ministry than a money-making venture.
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Scott Edgiscript: But that's the number one rule I tell people is does it come from here or does it come from here?
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Scott Edgiscript: Because if it comes from here, then you're going to love it and you're going to.
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Scott Edgiscript: You're going to.
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Scott Edgiscript: You is going to come out onto the page who you are and your passion and that is going to make the final project so much more believable and real and exciting and emotional and just absorbing.
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Scott Edgiscript: If you, if this is the only thing going on the page, it can be entertaining.
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Scott Edgiscript: I mean, how many?
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Scott Edgiscript: How many movies have we seen in our lives that we came out of and we went?
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Scott Edgiscript: Yeah, I had a good two hours.
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Scott Edgiscript: That was.
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Scott Edgiscript: That was a fun time, never going to remember it again.
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Scott Edgiscript: But yeah, I, I paid my ticket and I enjoyed myself.
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Scott Edgiscript: Versus how many movies or shows you just, you just repeat and they, they sucked you in and they just absorbed you and I am never going to forget that moment and it changed me as a person.
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Scott Edgiscript: That's the difference between writing from here or writing from here.
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Justin Alan Hayes: And I think the reverb a little bit back to that play that you were in and going into that last scene, slip bow have all these thoughts.
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Justin Alan Hayes: You were doing it because it was in your heart and not just in their head.
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Justin Alan Hayes: It made that those comments at the end where her voice was crackling made that all more like okay, yeah, this is what I love to do and if I have an opportunity to be paid to do this type of work, I'd love it.
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Justin Alan Hayes: But the feeling and the chills and uh, just like, oh my gosh, like I'm, we really did affect people and it we're not always, uh, we didn't have to focus on, you know, the the negative things and all those can be be worked on, um, but just just the mere fact that it was entertainment, but it was.
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Justin Alan Hayes: It gripped them from like an emotional standpoint, not just a money standpoint.
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Scott Edgiscript: Yeah, yeah, and in no way am I trying to hint that if anyone makes money off of this it's corrupt and wrong.
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Scott Edgiscript: No, of course not.
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Scott Edgiscript: No, absolutely.
26:17
Scott Edgiscript: A worker is worth his wages.
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Scott Edgiscript: I'm not saying that at all.
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Scott Edgiscript: I'm just saying if you are, if you are truly passionate about this, about your writing, then it's just going to make the product.
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Scott Edgiscript: Not only is it going to make the product better, in my opinion, but it's going to be something you enjoy doing.
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Scott Edgiscript: If it's coming from here and you're doing it for a buck, then you're going to hate it after a while.
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Scott Edgiscript: It's gonna it.
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Scott Edgiscript: It it's just a job, it's not a passion and, as we all know, in any job we've ever had, there come annoyances, there come.
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Scott Edgiscript: Oh, I wish I could find a better career.
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Scott Edgiscript: I wish I could find.
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Scott Edgiscript: Uh, if it's coming from within you, you'll never have that because it's it's, it's who you are, it's what you want to be doing.
27:11
Scott Edgiscript: Yeah, that's the best advice I can give anybody.
27:15
Scott Edgiscript: I mean, there's a lot of little technical things that you know, everyone should to you know, for one thing, a little simple thing learn how to spell, please.
27:25
Scott Edgiscript: But but little things like that, you know.
27:30
Scott Edgiscript: But yeah, yeah, it's just, it's just got to be within you yeah, no, I'm the.
27:36
Justin Alan Hayes: I'm the same way it, being 40, 43, uh years old the first I was in the first part of my life.
27:45
Justin Alan Hayes: Looking at my, my family and the, the, uh, the, my dad, dad and grandpa in their 70s is kind of when they end up passing on first half doing things based off of my mind and want a better title, want a better salary.
28:16
Justin Alan Hayes: I mean, obviously everybody wants to be paid, uh, a good wage and and now with voices for voices and and the things that we're doing now it's more of the.
28:28
Justin Alan Hayes: It's kind of like to your point, like put a lot more money in it than um than that way that we've gotten out.
28:36
Justin Alan Hayes: But I'm pulled in by the, the heartstrings, versus, yeah, the the mind and making the buck.
28:45
Justin Alan Hayes: And uh, I mean people ask me all the time I was like, yeah, like 10 years ago I've never dreamed that I would be at the pendulum, you know, went so much the other way but that hits the hit to your point that you know if you do something you like to do and you would do for no money, then that's something to be a good, good thing to at least to explore and and see.
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Justin Alan Hayes: Now, when you um because you mentioned you prior to, prior to the internet, we got about eight minutes left.
29:25
Justin Alan Hayes: This isn't a plan.
29:26
Justin Alan Hayes: Um, thank you for that.
29:30
Justin Alan Hayes: I should have said that last time it popped up.
29:37
Justin Alan Hayes: As far as the submission process, you mentioned that prior to internet, you had to face-to-face, you had to share to see if there was an interest in it.
29:48
Justin Alan Hayes: How does that process, or has it changed?
29:52
Justin Alan Hayes: You know somebody has a work that they put together and they say, okay, now what do I do?
29:59
Justin Alan Hayes: And not that somebody is going to be interested, but at least to test the waters.
30:05
Scott Edgiscript: You know what?
30:05
Scott Edgiscript: I'll be honest with you, I'm the last person to ask that question to.
30:09
Scott Edgiscript: I have been so blessed.
30:11
Scott Edgiscript: Paul does 90 of everything.
30:14
Scott Edgiscript: Uh, he's online, he knows.
30:17
Scott Edgiscript: I mean, I mean I went to my first comic convention, my first comic con with him with this comic he set everything up.
30:25
Scott Edgiscript: I have been so blessed that, um, I don't know anything about that.
30:30
Scott Edgiscript: I just write and I say Paul, here's my script and he's got it.
30:35
Scott Edgiscript: He sets up the website.
30:37
Scott Edgiscript: He set up our website.
30:38
Scott Edgiscript: Spiritmancomicscom is all him.
30:42
Justin Alan Hayes: It's awesome by the way.
30:43
Justin Alan Hayes: Check it out.
30:45
Scott Edgiscript: Oh, thank you, and it's free.
30:48
Scott Edgiscript: It's free online for anyone who wants to check it out, uh, uh, but all he does, the artwork he does, he does all of that himself.
30:58
Scott Edgiscript: And right now I'm kind of in a I I'm very intimidated by all of that.
31:02
Scott Edgiscript: And it's not that I'm unintelligent, I just, you know, I've got other duties, I've got other things going on, I have other other scripts.
31:09
Scott Edgiscript: When I have free time I just want to write.
31:10
Scott Edgiscript: I don't want to dig into, well, how do I do this and how do I do whatever?
31:15
Scott Edgiscript: So when I started looking to get my novel published, I went the traditional route.
31:21
Scott Edgiscript: I went to publishers and I got some positive feedback.
31:26
Scott Edgiscript: You know, hey, a lot of interest in this, but unfortunately we can only publish 1% of what we get.
31:33
Scott Edgiscript: You didn't quite make the cut, all that kind of thing.
31:35
Scott Edgiscript: But I, other than that, I don't know.
31:39
Scott Edgiscript: A lot of people have told me you can, you have this option, you have this option.
31:42
Scott Edgiscript: You have this option.
31:43
Scott Edgiscript: You can self-publish, you can do this.
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Scott Edgiscript: I have no idea.
31:46
Scott Edgiscript: I have no idea if I have first clue as to how to do that.
31:51
Scott Edgiscript: And and again, I bring that around to.
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Scott Edgiscript: If anything good comes from this.
31:58
Scott Edgiscript: It ain't coming from me, you know.
32:01
Scott Edgiscript: It's coming from God, because I'm, I'm, I'm a brilliant idiot is what I am, you know.
32:06
Scott Edgiscript: So I'm sorry.
32:08
Scott Edgiscript: That's a lousy answer to your question.
32:10
Scott Edgiscript: What do people do?
32:11
Justin Alan Hayes: No.
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Scott Edgiscript: All I did was say I want to write, and God basically threw so many things in my lap that I am just so blessed with and I just I give him all the credit for all of that.
32:26
Justin Alan Hayes: And I think that's a good lesson, that some people innately are able to do that and all the intricacies.
32:38
Justin Alan Hayes: But then if we don't know somebody or we don't have that knowledge ourselves, the best thing kind of if the car needs to take the mechanic and you would go to the specials you find people and reach out to your network to see who's out there who's trustworthy, and then it's okay to ask for help.
33:06
Justin Alan Hayes: I think that that's something that.
33:09
Justin Alan Hayes: I know I've been, I can do everything myself and I can power through it, and well, that may be the case, but it comes at a cost of mental energy, physical energy, depending on what it is, and and so it's okay to ask for as for help and yeah and and paul right now is looking into, uh, what we can do to try to make spirit man a monthly comic.
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Scott Edgiscript: It's been a slow process because I write the script, I hand it to him.
33:36
Scott Edgiscript: He does everything else so he's we've got, we've gotten.
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Scott Edgiscript: He's trying to finish inking and coloring what we have right now put together, kind of a pack, and if we can get some interest, if he can get it out there, maybe we can hire someone else to to be involved, maybe we can start putting it on shelves.
33:56
Scott Edgiscript: He's looking into that right now and but from my part I'm kind of like you know what?
34:01
Scott Edgiscript: I trust you.
34:03
Scott Edgiscript: It's just, I hand it off, I'll, if I can help, let me know.
34:07
Scott Edgiscript: It's not that I'm lazy, it's not that you know I don't know what I'm doing.
34:12
Scott Edgiscript: You know I really don't, so you know?
34:17
Justin Alan Hayes: yeah, I think that that really dovetails into our last couple minutes.
34:21
Justin Alan Hayes: So how can, how can people learn about you, the work you do, spirit man?
34:25
Justin Alan Hayes: Um, not all those, you know, those personal plugs with the work that you do Absolutely wwwspiritmancomicscom.
34:37
Scott Edgiscript: Why do we even say the www anymore?
34:39
Justin Alan Hayes: I do that.
34:42
Scott Edgiscript: But spiritmancomicscom, if you want to check it out, absolutely free for anyone, a print copy if you would like it.
34:48
Scott Edgiscript: There's a way on there you can order one.
34:51
Scott Edgiscript: It does cost because we have to, we, it costs for us to print it, but we basically make zero on it.
34:58
Scott Edgiscript: Uh, we basically give it to you at cost.
35:00
Scott Edgiscript: Um, I, I have a presence.
35:03
Scott Edgiscript: If you're on reddit, uh, you can look up edgy script, edgi script, check out my stuff again.
35:09
Scott Edgiscript: They're they're just me having fun, uh, but if you want to read that, you can, and maybe one day my novel will be published, but I have no idea oh well, thank you for setting aside, you know time to to talk with us and chat and share thank you so much you're.
35:29
Justin Alan Hayes: I definitely value your opinion and what you do and want to get as much clean material into everybody's hands, especially children as we're growing up.
35:44
Justin Alan Hayes: There's lots of choices and to have the background and how you approach things are very very helpful conventions.
35:54
Scott Edgiscript: We've had a couple comments.
35:56
Scott Edgiscript: People walk up and look and goes oh my goodness, your women have clothes on.
35:59
Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah, yeah right, yeah, yeah, and that's a that's, that's a big thing, because the little things they add up in the mind and uh, great, well, do we miss?
36:10
Justin Alan Hayes: Did I miss anything else you wanted to share?
36:14
Scott Edgiscript: No, just thank you so much.
36:16
Scott Edgiscript: I really appreciate it.
36:18
Scott Edgiscript: If you ever want to contact me.
36:19
Scott Edgiscript: If you need me again, give me a buzz.
36:22
Justin Alan Hayes: Absolutely Great.
36:23
Justin Alan Hayes: We want to thank our.
36:24
Justin Alan Hayes: I was able to do it the last episode because we ran right up against time, which is actually good that we were able to max that out.
36:31
Justin Alan Hayes: That's what we like to do.
36:32
Justin Alan Hayes: We want to thank again our listeners, our viewers.
36:35
Justin Alan Hayes: We're well over 200 episodes.
36:40
Justin Alan Hayes: Check us out.
36:40
Justin Alan Hayes: We're everywhere from video, youtube Rumble, and then all the audio platforms, and then all the audio platforms, and we just are grateful about the opportunity to share the work and individuals like yourself and keep doing what you're doing.
36:59
Justin Alan Hayes: And, yeah, we'll definitely be reaching out here in the near future as we all progress, in whatever manner that is, we'll go Great.
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Justin Alan Hayes: So until next time, please be a voice for you or somebody in need.