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- 0:59Speaker 2: All right, God guy, welcome back, Eyl. This is a
- 1:02Speaker 2: state of emergency. Addition, you know, we're talking going back
- 1:07Speaker 2: and forth for the last couple of days, and we
- 1:09Speaker 2: got a lot a lot of dope fire episodes and
- 1:11Speaker 2: the fault that teach people a variety of different tactics,
- 1:15Speaker 2: how to get their bread right, how to how to
- 1:17Speaker 2: you know, become entrepreneurs and navigate the field. That's what
- 1:20Speaker 2: EYL is here for. But we're also a business podcast
- 1:23Speaker 2: on a broader scale. We've touched on almost every single topic. So,
- 1:27Speaker 2: you know, having a conversation with Troy a couple of
- 1:30Speaker 2: days ago, in the midst of everything that's going on
- 1:32Speaker 2: in this world in our country, I'm like, you know,
- 1:35Speaker 2: I don't think we should actually, you know, put these
- 1:37Speaker 2: episodes out. Maybe we should just do like a state
- 1:39Speaker 2: of emergency last minute, you know what I'm saying, addressing topics.
- 1:42Speaker 3: We would have been remiss if we didn't address what's
- 1:45Speaker 3: going on in our community and what's going on in
- 1:47Speaker 3: the world. Really, so when you call me, we had
- 1:50Speaker 3: the same thought. You just like, Yo, it wouldn't sit
- 1:52Speaker 3: right with me if we didn't address it, if we
- 1:54Speaker 3: didn't take some time to really dive deep into this
- 1:58Speaker 3: so that we can make everybody away, which is what
- 2:00Speaker 3: we're known for. So we was on the same page
- 2:03Speaker 3: and hopefully, you know, we're gonna shed the light on
- 2:05Speaker 3: some things today.
- 2:05Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're gonna We're gonna tell you we was
- 2:07Speaker 2: kind of going back and forth because we're still a
- 2:09Speaker 2: business podcast and that's all. And I feel like everybody
- 2:11Speaker 2: has their their their lane and their way to contribute
- 2:14Speaker 2: to society, and you know, our platform is to provide
- 2:19Speaker 2: business information, which is extremely valuable, but like, how do
- 2:23Speaker 2: we tie it in with the social justice So I
- 2:25Speaker 2: think we did a great job of actually tying it
- 2:28Speaker 2: two in and talking about it from business standpoint.
- 2:32Speaker 3: He was adamant about it. I said, YEA, let's just
- 2:34Speaker 3: go no holds ball, let's go no hose ball, let's
- 2:36Speaker 3: just speak our mind. Let's let's just tell the people
- 2:38Speaker 3: how we feel. And he was like, no, we can
- 2:40Speaker 3: keep it business. I'm like, all right, man, fine.
- 2:43Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanted. I think it's important because there's always
- 2:45Speaker 2: a money played behind it, and it's like not just
- 2:47Speaker 2: to inform people, but to actually let people know how
- 2:50Speaker 2: they can make a change and how they can actually
- 2:53Speaker 2: invest in and make some money and do it in
- 2:55Speaker 2: the right way and different things of that nature.
- 2:57Speaker 3: So I'm glad we did because it was, like like
- 2:59Speaker 3: I said all the time, like we learned through the process.
- 3:01Speaker 3: So there's things that I uncovered that I had no
- 3:03Speaker 3: idea about. So now we're gonna do what we do
- 3:06Speaker 3: best and put it in the language to help everybody
- 3:08Speaker 3: else understand it.
- 3:09Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. So this this is gonna be a
- 3:11Speaker 2: special special episode. We're gonna go over a variety of
- 3:13Speaker 2: different topics and like I said, it's going to inform you.
- 3:16Speaker 2: It's also going to educate you, and hopefully people can
- 3:21Speaker 2: use this to bring about real change, not just to
- 3:23Speaker 2: listen to it and just be educated, but to actually
- 3:26Speaker 2: enforce new policy, enforce change, and this hopefully can lead
- 3:29Speaker 2: to some solutions. So before we start, I just wanted
- 3:32Speaker 2: to take a moment in silence for Big George Floyd,
- 3:36Speaker 2: Eric Gardner. I'm gonna do Diallo, Freddie Gray, Sean Bell,
- 3:39Speaker 2: Orlando Castillo, Treyvon Martin, Sandram Blanz. Too many, it's too many, unfortunately, Yeah,
- 3:45Speaker 2: it's too many people for us to name. That's just
- 3:48Speaker 2: a few of black people that have been killed by
- 3:53Speaker 2: the police and uh, the last you know, decade or so.
- 3:59Speaker 2: So yeah, I just want to take a moment in
- 4:00Speaker 2: silence for that, all right. So, so yeah, we're gonna
- 4:05Speaker 2: we're gonna get right into it. You know, obviously, the
- 4:10Speaker 2: times that we're in right now, As I said, rest
- 4:13Speaker 2: in peace to George Floyd. If you saw that, there's
- 4:15Speaker 2: no justification for what happened with that. You know, it's
- 4:18Speaker 2: one of these one of the few cases where I've
- 4:20Speaker 2: seen where there's not even one person trying to justify
- 4:22Speaker 2: every There's always like, well, what did he do? He
- 4:24Speaker 2: was resisting, there's always more just I haven't heard one
- 4:26Speaker 2: person that's actually said like, this is justified. I haven't
- 4:30Speaker 2: heard anybody trying to justify it. It's just like trying
- 4:32Speaker 2: to justify other things. But I haven't heard anybody trying
- 4:34Speaker 2: to justify this. So it's like it brings up a
- 4:37Speaker 2: larger issue of police brutality. And police brutality is not
- 4:41Speaker 2: something that doesn't exist, Like I don't care, Yeah, it's
- 4:45Speaker 2: not We're not gonna act like it doesn't happen. It
- 4:47Speaker 2: doesn't exist, and I don't want to hear about. You know,
- 4:50Speaker 2: there are good cops. That's not the point. Of course,
- 4:53Speaker 2: there's some good cops. Of course, there's some good teachers.
- 4:55Speaker 2: Of course there's something like. That's not the point. The
- 4:57Speaker 2: point is that there's a systematic problem of not only racism,
- 5:01Speaker 2: but police brutality. And the reason why police brutality is
- 5:04Speaker 2: an issue is because These are people that take an
- 5:08Speaker 2: oath to serve and protect the community. So if you
- 5:12Speaker 2: take an oath to serve and protect the community, it's
- 5:15Speaker 2: not the same as a gang member killing another gang member. Like,
- 5:18Speaker 2: these people don't take oaths, they're not paid, they don't
- 5:21Speaker 2: have pensions, so it's not the same. So I don't
- 5:24Speaker 2: want to hear that we're talking about police brutality. There's
- 5:28Speaker 2: times and places and talking about all other stuff, but
- 5:30Speaker 2: right now we're talking about police brutality.
- 5:33Speaker 3: I spoke on a couple of conversations man and shout
- 5:36Speaker 3: out to KRS when he had to line, like, what's
- 5:39Speaker 3: the difference between the overseer and the officer? Right, So
- 5:42Speaker 3: if we go back to the history of it, like
- 5:43Speaker 3: we've seen that the overseer was to watch over the
- 5:46Speaker 3: land and if everyone act out of accordance, they were
- 5:48Speaker 3: handled at that time. And if we look at it right,
- 5:52Speaker 3: you said serve and protect. But the officer, especially in
- 5:55Speaker 3: our communities, has become the overseer. So it's kind of crazy.
- 5:59Speaker 2: Yeah, So all right, earn Aalsia. We talk about the
- 6:02Speaker 2: money plays and this is no different than anything else.
- 6:05Speaker 2: I actually learned a lot of stuff doing research on this.
- 6:08Speaker 2: That's what I realized too, that we we have become
- 6:10Speaker 2: journalists and we take our journalistic responsibility very serious. I
- 6:15Speaker 2: was up till four o'clock in the morning yesterday researching
- 6:19Speaker 2: and I got excited because I didn't even I'm like, yo,
- 6:22Speaker 2: I got excited and learning the information, like I hope
- 6:24Speaker 2: I can relate this in a manager. Yeah, so you know,
- 6:28Speaker 2: I'm interested to actually, you know, have this conversation. So
- 6:32Speaker 2: there's an economic play. There's an economic play behind police brutality.
- 6:36Speaker 2: There's a huge, huge economic play. So every year, cities
- 6:41Speaker 2: across the United States of America, small and large, they
- 6:44Speaker 2: spend millions of dollars in police brutality claims because it's like,
- 6:47Speaker 2: this isn't calm, this isn't new, right, Like it happens
- 6:49Speaker 2: all the time, right, even if it's not to this
- 6:52Speaker 2: extent where somebody gets killed, somebody might get a black eye,
- 6:55Speaker 2: somebody might break somebody's ribs. Like, yeah, it's a lot
- 7:00Speaker 2: of police but that's an issue too, but specifically police brutality.
- 7:04Speaker 2: So police brutality cases, there's millions of police brutality cases
- 7:08Speaker 2: all over the country every single year. Most of the
- 7:11Speaker 2: time it's settled with some compensation being paid, and that
- 7:17Speaker 2: can go from one thousand dollars to one hundred million
- 7:20Speaker 2: dollars like anywhere in between. Right, it depends. So now
- 7:24Speaker 2: what people don't fully understand, I think is that there's billions,
- 7:29Speaker 2: billions of dollars that are paid to victims of police
- 7:34Speaker 2: brutality every single.
- 7:35Speaker 3: Year, all the time. Yeah, there was a settlement for
- 7:37Speaker 3: forty million, this person got twenty five million. Nobody thinks
- 7:40Speaker 3: about they just hit the number. Nobody thinks about anything else.
- 7:43Speaker 3: Where's this coming from? Yeah?
- 7:44Speaker 2: And to create So Chicago in twenty eighteen, one hundred
- 7:47Speaker 2: and thirteen million dollars was paid to police brutality settlements
- 7:53Speaker 2: and judgments. One hundred and thirteen million in just the
- 7:57Speaker 2: city of Chicago in twenty eighteen one year. That's that's amazing.
- 8:01Speaker 2: So it's like, where does this money come from? So
- 8:04Speaker 2: this is this is now you start to peel back
- 8:06Speaker 2: the layers. Because if it's like it's like a movie,
- 8:08Speaker 2: it's like a movie, like you see the Instagram clips
- 8:12Speaker 2: and it's like, okay, so now I feel like I'm
- 8:14Speaker 2: actually a detective. Right, It's like, now you got pill
- 8:17Speaker 2: back the layers.
- 8:18Speaker 3: It's weird. Because at times like when you hear these sellments.
- 8:21Speaker 3: I remember when I'm gonna do the album Dudillo got
- 8:25Speaker 3: to sell them and it was like yah, it was
- 8:26Speaker 3: forty million dollars or something of that sort, and it
- 8:28Speaker 3: was like that felt like a victory. It felt like,
- 8:30Speaker 3: all right, well, he's been compensated for the abuse that
- 8:34Speaker 3: he suffered. And then when you look at like, wait,
- 8:36Speaker 3: where did that money come from? It's like, wait, is
- 8:38Speaker 3: this really a big should we be celebrating that?
- 8:40Speaker 2: That's the crazy thing about it. Nobody ever thought about
- 8:42Speaker 2: where the money comes from. So where does the money
- 8:44Speaker 2: come from? The money comes from taxpayers, right, So taxpayers.
- 8:48Speaker 2: So that's another thing about police officers. Police officers are
- 8:51Speaker 2: public servants. Right, we pay when I say we tax
- 8:55Speaker 2: paying people of the United States of America pay the
- 8:58Speaker 2: salaries and the retireronment of the police department. All of
- 9:03Speaker 2: that comes from tax dollars. So now the taxpayers are
- 9:09Speaker 2: paying for these payouts. That's the first that's the first
- 9:13Speaker 2: part that people need to fully understand.
- 9:15Speaker 3: It's like even before the payout, right, they have no
- 9:18Speaker 3: So you got to understand that part before you even
- 9:21Speaker 3: get to the telements. You've had to go through court
- 9:23Speaker 3: a court case. Right there, there's no financial responsibility on
- 9:26Speaker 3: the side of an officer during the police brutality case.
- 9:29Speaker 3: So literally, the taxpayers pay for their trial. So they're
- 9:34Speaker 3: paying for the lawyers that, they're paying for the judgments,
- 9:37Speaker 3: and they're paying for the settlements. Like there is nothing
- 9:39Speaker 3: that they have to do if the actors committed while
- 9:42Speaker 3: they're on the job.
- 9:43Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the fact. So now so now the taxpayers
- 9:46Speaker 2: pay for it. So it's like all right, so now
- 9:48Speaker 2: now we got deal back, peel back even more layers.
- 9:51Speaker 2: So now a lot of cities, in towns, they have
- 9:55Speaker 2: liability policies. So liability it's like insurance pretty much, right,
- 10:00Speaker 2: So it's like, okay, any other insurance policy, you pay
- 10:03Speaker 2: a premium. So like let's say you have a ten
- 10:06Speaker 2: million dollar liability policy, so your premium for that might
- 10:10Speaker 2: be two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, right, So taxpayers
- 10:15Speaker 2: are paying the premium because that's where it comes from
- 10:17Speaker 2: the budget. So taxpayer is paying two hundred and fifty thousand,
- 10:20Speaker 2: and then a liability company is paying the ten million.
- 10:23Speaker 2: So it's like okay, if you if you get into
- 10:26Speaker 2: a situation and you beat up somebody, a cop. You're
- 10:29Speaker 2: a cop, and you beat up somebody, they sue. Now
- 10:33Speaker 2: they win. So now a liability company is liable for
- 10:36Speaker 2: that to pay that, so they pay it. But ultimately
- 10:41Speaker 2: the taxpayers still paid it in some sort because they
- 10:44Speaker 2: actually paid the premium for the policy. So but that
- 10:47Speaker 2: wouldn't that wouldn't be that bad because it's like, all right,
- 10:52Speaker 2: you're only paying it's still bad because it's like you
- 10:54Speaker 2: you are committing a crime, you are actually abusing somebody,
- 10:59Speaker 2: and where even if it's a dollar or ten percent
- 11:01Speaker 2: of what's being paid, we're still paying for a tax payer.
- 11:05Speaker 2: But it's like, all right, it's still less. It's not
- 11:07Speaker 2: like you're paying the whole thing right now you got
- 11:10Speaker 2: to peel back even one more layers. So it's like,
- 11:12Speaker 2: all right. What happens is that most of these cities, towns,
- 11:16Speaker 2: and especially as more and more police brutality cases start
- 11:19Speaker 2: to be reported, they don't have enough liability because you
- 11:22Speaker 2: got to think about the liability companies are business as well.
- 11:25Speaker 2: They're not just going to try to give away money. Yeah,
- 11:27Speaker 2: it's like they cap it. So now it's like there's
- 11:31Speaker 2: not enough liability insurance to cover a lot of this, right, So.
- 11:36Speaker 3: We need more money.
- 11:37Speaker 2: So now they need more money, additional money in addition
- 11:41Speaker 2: to the liability. So where does that come from? So
- 11:44Speaker 2: now they have to issue bonds. They have to have bonds, right.
- 11:48Speaker 2: So it's like Bethelhem, Pennsylvania, small town in Pennsylvania two
- 11:53Speaker 2: thousand and four, they settle the wrongful death lawsuit for
- 11:57Speaker 2: a seven point eight nine million, So five hundred thousand
- 12:02Speaker 2: came from the insurance, right, seven million, three hundred and
- 12:07Speaker 2: nine seven point thirty nine million came from bonds. So
- 12:15Speaker 2: the vast majority of it actually came from bonds. Right.
- 12:19Speaker 3: So bonds in the sensus like, listen, we're gonna pay
- 12:21Speaker 3: you back this money over a given amount of time
- 12:24Speaker 3: with interests, right, So a lot of times it could
- 12:27Speaker 3: be thirty years, sometimes it could be shorter. So we
- 12:29Speaker 3: just got to understand that part too. So literally, a
- 12:32Speaker 3: municipality is saying, listen, we don't have the money, but
- 12:34Speaker 3: we'll get it back to you. They're gonna raise that
- 12:36Speaker 3: money from the good people who live in that city.
- 12:39Speaker 3: So it's like, listen, the people who live in these areas,
- 12:42Speaker 3: and a lot of times it's over policed areas. So
- 12:44Speaker 3: when we look at the cities, it's over police areas.
- 12:46Speaker 3: When they're over policed, there's gonna be more incidents, there's
- 12:48Speaker 3: gonna be more altercations with law officials. So they already
- 12:52Speaker 3: know like, all right, well, we're gonna set this budget aside,
- 12:54Speaker 3: and if we don't have enough, we're gonna get more
- 12:56Speaker 3: from the taxpayers.
- 12:57Speaker 2: Yeah, And so what happens, what's going on now is
- 12:59Speaker 2: that cities across the United States of America are going
- 13:02Speaker 2: into massive debt because of what they're calling it police
- 13:05Speaker 2: brutality bonds. That's what they're pretty much dead, police brutality bonds.
- 13:10Speaker 2: So that's the crazy thing about the financial industry. They
- 13:12Speaker 2: issue bonds for anything. There was bonds for mortgage backed security,
- 13:16Speaker 2: for your home's bonds, for anything that you really get creative,
- 13:21Speaker 2: you can issue a bond. So now they actually have
- 13:23Speaker 2: police brutality bonds. Right. So between two thousand and eight
- 13:27Speaker 2: and twenty and seventeen, we did some research, LA seventy
- 13:31Speaker 2: four million dollars was paid in police brutality bonds. The
- 13:37Speaker 2: insurance the interest on that was eighteen million. To the
- 13:43Speaker 2: holders of the bond and taxpayers it cost them eighty
- 13:48Speaker 2: nine million. So let me just I just wanted for
- 13:50Speaker 2: people to understand that. So, all right, LA didn't have
- 13:54Speaker 2: enough to pay police brutality cases.
- 13:57Speaker 3: So those are the judgments and settlements, right.
- 13:59Speaker 2: So over and above what they already have in their
- 14:01Speaker 2: budget are over and above the liabillion ran.
- 14:04Speaker 3: That's the scary part too, like we are ready of saying, listen,
- 14:07Speaker 3: we have a budget for it. Let's keep going.
- 14:08Speaker 2: Yeah, So now they have to go to the financial
- 14:11Speaker 2: markets and issue bonds worth seventy one million dollars, right,
- 14:17Speaker 2: So they take out bonds for seventy one million dollars
- 14:20Speaker 2: to pay this Because if you know what a bond is,
- 14:22Speaker 2: it's like it's your somebody's loaning you money. For them
- 14:27Speaker 2: loaning you money, you're paying it back over a court
- 14:29Speaker 2: of time. But it's with interest. So now the people
- 14:33Speaker 2: that loaned them the money, people that loaned them seventy
- 14:36Speaker 2: one million dollars, they got paid an interest of eighteen million.
- 14:40Speaker 3: We're going to talk about who they are too, and
- 14:42Speaker 3: it's said.
- 14:43Speaker 2: They So they made money, they made eighteen The people
- 14:46Speaker 2: that issued the bonds made eighteen million dollars on the bonds.
- 14:50Speaker 2: The taxpayers ended up paying for the whole thing because
- 14:53Speaker 2: you have to pay for the bond and the interest.
- 14:57Speaker 2: So the taxpayers ended up paying eighty nine million.
- 15:00Speaker 3: Right, So you got to sell the bond money, which
- 15:02Speaker 3: is the seventy one if we're talking about LA and
- 15:04Speaker 3: then you talk about the interest pays. So you can
- 15:05Speaker 3: buy those two and that's what the bill is for
- 15:07Speaker 3: the tax pay yep.
- 15:08Speaker 2: Milwaukee during that same time, twenty six million in bonds,
- 15:12Speaker 2: uh three point seven million dollars in interest. The taxpayers
- 15:15Speaker 2: paid twenty nine million. Chicago, Chicago. I don't know what's
- 15:18Speaker 2: going on in Chicago.
- 15:19Speaker 3: Well, Chicago had a lot of high profile cases. One
- 15:22Speaker 3: that comes to mind, and we're gonna talk about a
- 15:24Speaker 3: duration of time, So from like twy ten to twenty eighteen,
- 15:28Speaker 3: we're talking to almost a billion dollars paid. They had
- 15:31Speaker 3: the Lakwi McDonald case where the young black kid was
- 15:34Speaker 3: shot sixteen times and I believe the office's name was
- 15:38Speaker 3: Van Dyk or something like that got sent us to
- 15:40Speaker 3: six years. There was a settlement in that case. So
- 15:42Speaker 3: you got a couple of cases in Chicago that happened
- 15:44Speaker 3: from twenty to ten to twenty seventeen. They had seven
- 15:48Speaker 3: hundred and nine million in bonds seven hundred and nine million.
- 15:52Speaker 3: The interest paid on those on those bonds was one
- 15:55Speaker 3: billion dollars with a B so the taxpayers get the
- 15:59Speaker 3: bill for one point seven There's a crazy part. There
- 16:03Speaker 3: was this quote. I was like, yo, that is it.
- 16:05Speaker 3: I was reading. It was like they said, this is
- 16:07Speaker 3: like the equivalent of paying your rent with a credit card.
- 16:11Speaker 3: Like it's a temporary solution, but the root of the
- 16:14Speaker 3: problem is you don't have enough money to pay your bills. Yeah,
- 16:16Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Think about that, And that's crazy.
- 16:19Speaker 2: I mean because if you look at it, like Milwaukee
- 16:20Speaker 2: paid three million, three million interest on twenty six million
- 16:23Speaker 2: dollars bond, La paid eighteen million on a seventy one
- 16:26Speaker 2: million dollars bond, they're small. The interest is smaller than
- 16:30Speaker 2: the amount of money that they borrowed. Chicago actually paid
- 16:33Speaker 2: more interest than what they So not only are they
- 16:36Speaker 2: issuing bonds, they issuing high interests like credit card, like
- 16:40Speaker 2: thirty five percent or something like that must be crazy
- 16:42Speaker 2: that they paid one billion dollars of interest and they
- 16:44Speaker 2: only borrowed seven hundred and nine million, and the tax
- 16:48Speaker 2: payers pay for all of that tax paid pay for
- 16:50Speaker 2: one point seven billion. So this is something that's so
- 16:54Speaker 2: crazy because it's like, you're paying for police brutality. You are, yeah,
- 16:59Speaker 2: And this is something, like I said, whether you are black, white,
- 17:02Speaker 2: whether you are affluent, whatever, this is something that everybody
- 17:05Speaker 2: should be concerned about because from an economic standpoint, why
- 17:09Speaker 2: do you want to pay for road cops? Why do
- 17:12Speaker 2: you want to pay for that? You're you're not only
- 17:14Speaker 2: paying for it, but you're paying for the interest as well.
- 17:16Speaker 2: Yeah so all right, so now that's that's the third layer.
- 17:20Speaker 2: But here's where it gets really spicy. It's like, all right,
- 17:24Speaker 2: so we're talking about bonds and day, so who's day? Right?
- 17:28Speaker 2: So it turns out that large banks, investment firms, ball
- 17:34Speaker 2: Street investment firms, small regional banks all play a part
- 17:39Speaker 2: in issuing these bonds. Some well known companies that have
- 17:42Speaker 2: played a part, Wells Fargo, Goldman, Sachs, Bank of America.
- 17:45Speaker 3: Bank of Montreal.
- 17:47Speaker 2: So they issue police brutality bonds to town cities, municipalities.
- 17:56Speaker 2: The cities pay them over the court sometime to loan
- 18:01Speaker 2: them money so they can pay victims, and they actually
- 18:05Speaker 2: are making money. So these companies are making money off
- 18:09Speaker 2: of police brutality because they're getting paid interest on the bonds.
- 18:12Speaker 3: And there's a lot of fees that go into doing
- 18:13Speaker 3: these bonds. Right, So, like we said that there's an
- 18:15Speaker 3: underwriter fees that the banks are going to collect the
- 18:18Speaker 3: money on that every time they issue them, so they're
- 18:20Speaker 3: going to every time that there's a case that is
- 18:22Speaker 3: a settlement, there's underwriting fees, the bank gets paid.
- 18:25Speaker 2: So not only do you have the first layer that's
- 18:27Speaker 2: making money is insurance companies for the liability claims because
- 18:31Speaker 2: insurance companies always make money, there's no way around it,
- 18:35Speaker 2: Like that's how insurance companies operate, right, So now you're
- 18:38Speaker 2: paying insurance premiums. So insurance, there's insurance policies and place
- 18:43Speaker 2: for police brutality, they make money. But even bigger than that,
- 18:46Speaker 2: now you have financial institutions that are making money off
- 18:49Speaker 2: police brutality bonds off the interest. So okay, now we
- 18:54Speaker 2: have to look at now it makes more sense why
- 18:57Speaker 2: nothing has changed in the last fifty years, if anything
- 18:59Speaker 2: has gotten worse, right, because there's no incentive for it
- 19:02Speaker 2: to stop. Not only do the police do not pay themselves,
- 19:06Speaker 2: they have no financial responsibility for it at all. So
- 19:09Speaker 2: that's one thing.
- 19:10Speaker 3: Like that's crazy.
- 19:11Speaker 2: The insurance companies is actually making money on it, and
- 19:16Speaker 2: now banks and financial institutions aren't making money on it.
- 19:21Speaker 2: So if there's if there's if nobody's losing money as
- 19:24Speaker 2: far as the cops and people are making millions and
- 19:29Speaker 2: billions of dollars, why would there ever be a real
- 19:33Speaker 2: incentive to change police brutality?
- 19:37Speaker 3: And then all that, right, if this was chess, right,
- 19:39Speaker 3: if we said that those are all the players, we
- 19:41Speaker 3: got to figure out where are we at on that
- 19:43Speaker 3: chess board?
- 19:45Speaker 2: Just pawns getting moved around. That's the reality of it,
- 19:48Speaker 2: and most people don't realize it. So it's like all right, okay, okay.
- 19:52Speaker 2: So and there's different ways how cities use it, Like
- 19:54Speaker 2: some cities use bonds as like part of their budgets.
- 19:57Speaker 2: Some cities use it as an emergency option. Some cities
- 19:59Speaker 2: use it after the liability insurance content, but they're still
- 20:02Speaker 2: getting used. Right, So it's like whole economic strit And
- 20:05Speaker 2: this is what we're talking about politics, and this is
- 20:09Speaker 2: something that people need to be aware of. So it's
- 20:11Speaker 2: like we're not just going to give you the problem.
- 20:14Speaker 2: Hopefully people. Somebody's listening to a bunch of people are
- 20:17Speaker 2: listening and the community's listening, and you never know what
- 20:20Speaker 2: somebody can do with the information. Right. So now it's
- 20:22Speaker 2: like how I see it when we're talking about were
- 20:26Speaker 2: in a political season, right and you're asking these politicians,
- 20:29Speaker 2: You demanding these politicians for these things, right, But a
- 20:33Speaker 2: lot of times you're asking them and you demanded them
- 20:35Speaker 2: for wrong things. You asking them to put body cameras
- 20:37Speaker 2: on these people. It doesn't matter.
- 20:39Speaker 3: But that's crazy. I'm glad you said body cameras because
- 20:42Speaker 3: in my notes I was thinking, like body cameras that
- 20:45Speaker 3: comes out of the budget too, right, So like when
- 20:47Speaker 3: you say you want these things, they have to get
- 20:49Speaker 3: the money to pay for it. So there needs to
- 20:51Speaker 3: be a budget that needs to come flow. You're paying
- 20:54Speaker 3: for those body cameras if you want them, you know
- 20:55Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So like we got to think intense, like,
- 20:57Speaker 3: all right, everything that you're asking for.
- 20:59Speaker 2: You're gonna pay. So the reil in my opinion, if
- 21:02Speaker 2: you want to take a political route. I'm not a
- 21:03Speaker 2: post I'm not opposed to politics. If you want to
- 21:06Speaker 2: take a political route, right, real legislation that can really
- 21:09Speaker 2: make a difference is first hitting police officers when it hurts,
- 21:14Speaker 2: so cutting getting cuts from the pension funds, right, the
- 21:19Speaker 2: police unions across America is probably the strongest, if not
- 21:22Speaker 2: one of these strongest unions TV in every city of America.
- 21:26Speaker 2: That they hardly can ever lose it. They can go
- 21:29Speaker 2: to jail and still keep their pension. They hardly ever
- 21:33Speaker 2: get fired even if they do an egregious act. They
- 21:36Speaker 2: like get put on like punishment or death duty even when.
- 21:38Speaker 3: They get fired, so that that there's a fine line there, right,
- 21:41Speaker 3: and that's where the law comes in. It's like they
- 21:43Speaker 3: can get fired for the offense, but the offense happened
- 21:45Speaker 3: while they were on duty, you see what I'm saying,
- 21:48Speaker 3: So like you're still paying for it because it happened
- 21:50Speaker 3: while they were part of the force. They could have
- 21:52Speaker 3: been fired after it, but they still were doing that
- 21:55Speaker 3: crime while they were on it. So technically your taxpayer
- 21:58Speaker 3: is gonna pay for it.
- 21:59Speaker 2: Yeah, so actionable items my opinion, I'm sure you have
- 22:03Speaker 2: somebody says cutting pension funds right, every for every for
- 22:09Speaker 2: every one hundred million that has to be paid out,
- 22:13Speaker 2: ten percent of the of the pension fund gets depleted.
- 22:17Speaker 2: That's that's an incentive for cops. Not to be because
- 22:22Speaker 2: you gotta realize this a lot of times, this is
- 22:24Speaker 2: the reality of it. Racism is real, right, So you're
- 22:28Speaker 2: not gonna be able to change You're not gonna be
- 22:29Speaker 2: able to change somebody's mine. If somebody looks at you
- 22:31Speaker 2: as less than a human being, somebody looks at you,
- 22:34Speaker 2: you can't change that by doing training, and none of
- 22:38Speaker 2: that's gonna work. But what people respect more than anything
- 22:41Speaker 2: else is money. So if they realize that, look, this
- 22:44Speaker 2: is gonna affect my money, you're gonna think twice about
- 22:47Speaker 2: doing something. So let's say it's one hundred for ever,
- 22:50Speaker 2: one hundred million dollars, ten percent of the total pension
- 22:53Speaker 2: for everybody, because it gotta be across the board. Everybody's
- 22:55Speaker 2: gotta fill. The pain gets deducted. Now the good cops,
- 23:00Speaker 2: he's going to be even more vigilant, and the bad
- 23:02Speaker 2: cops is even going to think about it because it's like,
- 23:04Speaker 2: I'm not just going to do nothing crazy because now
- 23:06Speaker 2: I'm gonna get effected.
- 23:07Speaker 3: Pay I think the second way we can we can
- 23:09Speaker 3: go about this is having them have individual responsibility rather
- 23:13Speaker 3: than having the tax paid pay for it. Let it
- 23:15Speaker 3: come out of it. Like you said, let's affect the money.
- 23:17Speaker 3: Let it come out of their own individual pench pains.
- 23:19Speaker 3: Let it come out of their own individual salaries if
- 23:22Speaker 3: there is misconduct, Right, if you saw that happening, you
- 23:25Speaker 3: would be less likely to commit any type of egregious
- 23:27Speaker 3: offense if you know it was gonna cost you, right,
- 23:29Speaker 3: because you got to feed your family too.
- 23:31Speaker 2: It's just like the NFL or any other thing. You
- 23:33Speaker 2: get fined exactly right, you get fine, you do something
- 23:36Speaker 2: in the NFL, you do an illegal hit, you get
- 23:38Speaker 2: a fifty thousand dollars paycheck cut in your paycheck. So yeah,
- 23:42Speaker 2: like you said, cops, if you get found guilty, if
- 23:45Speaker 2: you because if you have to pay their settling it right,
- 23:47Speaker 2: So if for every settlement that you have to pay for,
- 23:51Speaker 2: we're going to take twenty thousand dollars out of your salary,
- 23:53Speaker 2: We're going to cut your salary about twenty five percent
- 23:55Speaker 2: for the year or so, you know what I'm saying.
- 23:57Speaker 2: So now it's like overtime paid all types of thing.
- 23:59Speaker 2: So now it's like, Okay, you have a financial incentive
- 24:03Speaker 2: put in place not to do these things. Right. Another
- 24:08Speaker 2: thing that they can do is that they can deduct
- 24:11Speaker 2: it from the overall police budget, which will lower the
- 24:15Speaker 2: police budget, which that hurts them. Right. Another thing that
- 24:19Speaker 2: they can do that I just thought about is I
- 24:21Speaker 2: don't understand why cops don't have e ANDO insurance. Like
- 24:25Speaker 2: there's millions of cops all across the country from every persent,
- 24:28Speaker 2: from doctors, financial advisors. Doctors pay so much money in
- 24:32Speaker 2: malpractice insurance, so much money. Like a doctor might pay
- 24:35Speaker 2: thirty thousand dollars a year in malpractice insurance. He might
- 24:38Speaker 2: not ever do anything wrong, but that's the cost of
- 24:41Speaker 2: being a doctor, because when a doctor does do something wrong,
- 24:45Speaker 2: it's all pulled together. Just like a financial advisor has
- 24:49Speaker 2: e ANDO insurance, which stands for ARIZONO Mission Insurance. So
- 24:52Speaker 2: the financial advisor might not do anything wrong his whole
- 24:54Speaker 2: entire career, but if something happens and you know, a
- 25:00Speaker 2: complaint is fouled, then they have E and O insurance,
- 25:03Speaker 2: which every financial advisor has to carry E and O insurance. Right. So, now,
- 25:07Speaker 2: like any other type of insurance, you got millions of
- 25:09Speaker 2: people putting it towards the pot it comes out of that.
- 25:13Speaker 2: So why can't cops have E and O insurance? Two
- 25:16Speaker 2: hundred dollars out of every single cops paycheck has to
- 25:19Speaker 2: go to E and O malpractice whatever you want to
- 25:22Speaker 2: call it, insurance. So now you've taken two hundred dollars
- 25:26Speaker 2: a paycheck out of millions of cops paychecks that alone
- 25:30Speaker 2: could probably pay for at least half of these police
- 25:32Speaker 2: brutality cast it's gonna come out of yacht like.
- 25:37Speaker 3: Just because what you said is so important that it'll
- 25:39Speaker 3: be more than that. Right, because we're not talking about
- 25:40Speaker 3: every city in America. We're talking about over over populated
- 25:44Speaker 3: cities with police presence, right, So if there's a large
- 25:47Speaker 3: police presence in that city, then these things are more
- 25:49Speaker 3: likely to happen. And where those things happen in the
- 25:52Speaker 3: cities that there are predominantly people that look like myself
- 25:55Speaker 3: and shoddy straight up.
- 25:57Speaker 2: Yeah. And when you're talking about voting once again, you're
- 25:59Speaker 2: talking about vot that's important. You have to It's not
- 26:02Speaker 2: good enough just to vote. It's not good enough just
- 26:04Speaker 2: you have to enact real policy change, Like these are
- 26:08Speaker 2: real policy changes.
- 26:09Speaker 3: Before they can even vote, right, Like I know that everybody,
- 26:11Speaker 3: this is a year that the census has come out.
- 26:14Speaker 3: You have to fill that out, y'all, Like you've got
- 26:16Speaker 3: to fill that out, fill out the censors, let them
- 26:17Speaker 3: know who you are, so then you can actually vote
- 26:20Speaker 3: and actually get elected officials in the positions who have
- 26:22Speaker 3: your best interest in mind. Man, people, I've seen people
- 26:25Speaker 3: with this. It's like I got my senses. Whatever, what
- 26:27Speaker 3: is that do with that?
- 26:29Speaker 2: Another thing is that it could it could be legislation
- 26:33Speaker 2: put in place where no financial institution can benefit. And
- 26:37Speaker 2: if they are going to issue bonds, it has to
- 26:39Speaker 2: be zero percent interest. That's the way. It's really no
- 26:42Speaker 2: incentive for them to make your money. You're not going
- 26:44Speaker 2: to issue a bond if it's zero percent interest. So
- 26:47Speaker 2: it's gonna be extremely harder because now it's just easy,
- 26:49Speaker 2: like all right, we get we get in trouble, we
- 26:52Speaker 2: go to Wells Fargo. They're gonna cut us a check.
- 26:54Speaker 2: We're gonna pay it back. It's not coming from us,
- 26:56Speaker 2: it's coming from tax payers anyway, So who cares? WEALTHO
- 27:00Speaker 2: doesn't care because they making money. The police department doesn't
- 27:02Speaker 2: care because it's coming from the taxpayers. The only one
- 27:04Speaker 2: that's that's brought in this bill is taxpayers. So not
- 27:07Speaker 2: only a taxpayer is paying a salary of cops, they're
- 27:10Speaker 2: paying for the mistakes of cops as well.
- 27:13Speaker 3: Yeah, on a daily basis. And like that's the part
- 27:16Speaker 3: that people really got to understand. Like if you're paying taxes,
- 27:18Speaker 3: yeah it's cool, Like all right, we're paying for schools,
- 27:21Speaker 3: but yeah, you're also playing for misconduct. Straight up.
- 27:24Speaker 2: That's a fact man. So you know, it's it's it's
- 27:27Speaker 2: it's a it's a crazy system. We can go on
- 27:29Speaker 2: and on about this, but like I said, and it's
- 27:31Speaker 2: like for those that are saying, like, all, we can't vote,
- 27:34Speaker 2: I'm not saying I'm not we shouldn't vote. I'm not
- 27:36Speaker 2: telling anybody what to do politically. We're not We're not
- 27:38Speaker 2: a political show. I'm just saying as far as instead
- 27:40Speaker 2: of just giving you problems, these are some real life
- 27:43Speaker 2: solutions that you can now how you go about it,
- 27:45Speaker 2: it's up to you. Like I said, we provide the
- 27:48Speaker 2: information applications on you. You know, if you're a young leader,
- 27:51Speaker 2: if you're an old leader, and if you you sparks something,
- 27:54Speaker 2: whether it's through community mobilization, whether it's through boycotts to
- 27:58Speaker 2: these or these institutions that that issue these bonds, whether
- 28:02Speaker 2: it's through political action that can be debated for a
- 28:05Speaker 2: different day, a different show. But you know, the first
- 28:08Speaker 2: thing is to be aware of what's going on.
- 28:11Speaker 3: So we went over that like all last week. We
- 28:13Speaker 3: just kept saying that over and over. Everybody's like knowledge power.
- 28:16Speaker 3: The more you know, the more you know. Yo. The
- 28:18Speaker 3: real issue is that knowledge is power, want it's applied.
- 28:20Speaker 3: So now that you have the knowledge, we've provided some
- 28:22Speaker 3: knowledge for you, hopefully we peel back some layers that
- 28:24Speaker 3: you were unaware of. Now it's up to you. Now
- 28:27Speaker 3: what what do you do with this? What do you
- 28:28Speaker 3: do with you got Where do you apply it?
- 28:30Speaker 2: That's the fact. So in the next segment, we're gonna
- 28:32Speaker 2: go we're gonna switch topics, but staying in the same lane,
- 28:35Speaker 2: and we're gonna talk about investing. We're going talking about
- 28:37Speaker 2: making money from a different twist, all right, So now
- 28:40Speaker 2: we're gonna go into investing. That's what that's what we
- 28:43Speaker 2: You know, people always tune into Shots Market Monday's number
- 28:49Speaker 2: one stock show a whole vi shout out to wall
- 28:52Speaker 2: St Trafford, bro shout out to everybody that we had
- 28:56Speaker 2: on the show to talk about investing. Shot out to
- 28:57Speaker 2: Quentin Martin. The first market show up we've ever done,
- 29:01Speaker 2: and that was the over year ago, So we talked
- 29:03Speaker 2: about investing a lot, right, but it's just like now
- 29:06Speaker 2: we're in the time of being socially conscious. We're in
- 29:08Speaker 2: the time of actually you know, and it does. Everybody's
- 29:12Speaker 2: not socially conscious, but I'm just saying as far as
- 29:13Speaker 2: a lot of people are starting to become socially conscious.
- 29:16Speaker 2: So a lot of people grapple because we do. We
- 29:18Speaker 2: did a show last week shout out the my song
- 29:20Speaker 2: about you know the prison system yep, and it's like,
- 29:23Speaker 2: I you know what I mean, Like I don't feel
- 29:25Speaker 2: comfortable investing in in companies as invested in prison or
- 29:27Speaker 2: it's like now it's police brutality and find out there's
- 29:30Speaker 2: a whole financial play behind that.
- 29:31Speaker 3: I think. I think that was so open the doors
- 29:33Speaker 3: because like a lot of people didn't even realize that.
- 29:35Speaker 3: And shout out to my song because I see him
- 29:36Speaker 3: on the field and he was in Kentucky with the
- 29:39Speaker 3: Breonna Taylor case and now he's in Minnesota with the
- 29:43Speaker 3: George Floyd case too, So shout out to my song.
- 29:45Speaker 3: Who's doing incredible work.
- 29:46Speaker 2: Shout out to my song for sure. So all right,
- 29:50Speaker 2: one thing that we have not talked about so far
- 29:52Speaker 2: in the podcast is socially responsible investing. That's all right, Yes,
- 29:57Speaker 2: socially responsible investing. So this is a interest in conversation
- 30:01Speaker 2: because it's actually a really big thing and it's been
- 30:04Speaker 2: around for a very long period of time. But so
- 30:06Speaker 2: there are investors, right that have social hang ups about
- 30:11Speaker 2: different things. Whether it be about the environment, whether it
- 30:15Speaker 2: be about tobacco, whether it be about gambling, whether it
- 30:19Speaker 2: be about war, another one, weapons of mass destruction, prison
- 30:25Speaker 2: companies that benefit off of prison health.
- 30:28Speaker 3: Healthcare, anybody invested in tobacco, alcohol.
- 30:31Speaker 2: Women, a bunch of different things that people. So it's
- 30:35Speaker 2: like a lot of times just like you know, some
- 30:36Speaker 2: people and I'm not taking aside either way. Some people's like,
- 30:39Speaker 2: you know, I'm ana invest and just get my bread,
- 30:41Speaker 2: get my money, and it is what it is. And
- 30:43Speaker 2: then some people was like, you know, I kind of
- 30:45Speaker 2: want to still invest make money. I believe in that,
- 30:49Speaker 2: but I still have some moral issues.
- 30:53Speaker 3: Your moral compass is going that I don't.
- 30:54Speaker 2: Necessarily want to invest in certain companies.
- 30:58Speaker 3: Fair, Yeah, that's fair.
- 31:00Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's not so so for that they're
- 31:04Speaker 2: actually funds. There's actually funds. Now guy said that the
- 31:08Speaker 2: financial when you start to learn about more about everything.
- 31:10Speaker 2: It's something it's like ice cream. The's a different flavor
- 31:12Speaker 2: for every single person. So there's actually funds, ETFs and
- 31:15Speaker 2: mutual funds in place to four socially conscious investors.
- 31:21Speaker 3: Yeah, I had to pull back the layers on this
- 31:23Speaker 3: because I was like, what you texted to me? I'm like,
- 31:25Speaker 3: I never heard of it. Let's do some research.
- 31:28Speaker 2: Yeah for sure. So you know there there's there's a few.
- 31:32Speaker 2: Like I said, so those are the different topics like environment, gambling, tobacco, alcohol, prison,
- 31:37Speaker 2: social justice, and religion. That's a whole different conversation. We're
- 31:41Speaker 2: gonna talk about that, but so just to kind of
- 31:43Speaker 2: give you a few, there's es g U E s
- 31:47Speaker 2: g U is an ETF, a socially conscious ETF that
- 31:52Speaker 2: does not invest in any company that has anything to
- 31:56Speaker 2: do with weapons, tobacco, jails, even though they actually did
- 32:04Speaker 2: have a private prison in their ETF and then they
- 32:07Speaker 2: found out and there was a mistake and they kicked
- 32:09Speaker 2: it off. So it's like even that, it's like, you know,
- 32:10Speaker 2: you find out you try to get the kosher hot
- 32:13Speaker 2: dogs it was made in a pig slaughtering house. It's
- 32:17Speaker 2: like it's so crazy, but so yeah, but yeah, that's
- 32:20Speaker 2: a ETF, and that ETF has actually done pretty well,
- 32:23Speaker 2: you know, considering because a lot of a lot of
- 32:26Speaker 2: times the performance of these things aren't as high as
- 32:28Speaker 2: other ones, but that one has done pretty well. It's
- 32:32Speaker 2: fifty two week high is seventy five dollars, and it's
- 32:37Speaker 2: fifty two week low was forty dollars a month ago.
- 32:39Speaker 2: So in March it was forty dollars. Right now it's
- 32:40Speaker 2: sixty eight, so it's it's it's up pretty nicely in
- 32:44Speaker 2: a two in a two month timeframe. Another one is
- 32:47Speaker 2: s SGA, which is a women diversity ETF and like
- 32:51Speaker 2: investing companies that hire majority women or have women CEO,
- 32:55Speaker 2: it's like it's focused around women. There's another one called
- 33:00Speaker 2: c r b N which is a low carbon environmental
- 33:03Speaker 2: friendly ETF. So there there's a variety. Like you can
- 33:07Speaker 2: just google socially conscious funds and like kind of just
- 33:10Speaker 2: play around with it in different filters and you can see, like,
- 33:13Speaker 2: you know, what kind of fun you're looking for, you know,
- 33:15Speaker 2: with the situation.
- 33:15Speaker 3: It's interesting. It's interest because I'm thinking to myself, like,
- 33:18Speaker 3: how many investors right are not willing to compromise their
- 33:20Speaker 3: values to make money. And when you when I think
- 33:23Speaker 3: of investors, I'm like, you know what, I think the
- 33:25Speaker 3: more the moral thing is like they just want to
- 33:27Speaker 3: make money. Yeah, they don't put everything else.
- 33:29Speaker 2: I think. I think you know, people and myself included.
- 33:32Speaker 2: You know, I'm not preaching from the choir. We can
- 33:36Speaker 2: conveniently get blind, right, conveniently get blind because it's like,
- 33:40Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like you might see something,
- 33:43Speaker 2: it's like it's not that bad.
- 33:45Speaker 3: It's like like if you were anti war, right, and
- 33:48Speaker 3: it was like, yeah, bones at ninety seven dollars, right,
- 33:51Speaker 3: But I don't want to invest in any company that
- 33:53Speaker 3: has deals with any making machines or any type of
- 33:56Speaker 3: thing that can help in the development of weapons and
- 33:59Speaker 3: masters to strut helping more. There goes that morale. It's like, wait,
- 34:03Speaker 3: well this is a good buye, right, this this is
- 34:04Speaker 3: a good buye at ninety seven dollars. Is it worth it?
- 34:07Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like, I think most people think,
- 34:09Speaker 3: let's just make money.
- 34:10Speaker 2: Oh, they just don't really think about it. You're thinking
- 34:12Speaker 2: about it from that un the standpoint, it's like, yeah,
- 34:15Speaker 2: you know, Boeing has government contracts. Are you thinking that
- 34:21Speaker 2: maybe that government plane is sending a drone and killing
- 34:25Speaker 2: an innocent child in Syria? You're not really looking too
- 34:27Speaker 2: far into it. You could. It's available. It's a lot,
- 34:33Speaker 2: it's a lot easier. This is what happens in a
- 34:38Speaker 2: variety of different things. You don't you don't want to
- 34:42Speaker 2: see certain things. Like you, you're walking down the alley,
- 34:44Speaker 2: you see what's going on, you turn your you turn around.
- 34:47Speaker 2: You walked out the way a lot of times. Most
- 34:50Speaker 2: of the time, yeah, most of the time.
- 34:51Speaker 3: I mean for your own safety a lot of time.
- 34:53Speaker 2: And like I said, I'm not here to shame. We're
- 34:55Speaker 2: not here to shame anybody.
- 34:56Speaker 3: Nah.
- 34:57Speaker 2: But but I'm just saying, I'm just you just want
- 34:59Speaker 2: to provide them in for me.
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- 37:50Speaker 2: Fation for some people that may want to take a
- 37:54Speaker 2: higher level of morality in that standpoint, and may want
- 38:01Speaker 2: to take a higher level of weeding out their investments.
- 38:05Speaker 2: Just give them, Just give them. That's the thing we're
- 38:07Speaker 2: we just hate it. Just provide information. A lot of
- 38:09Speaker 2: time people don't fully understand that, and they don't they
- 38:10Speaker 2: don't they don't even know that.
- 38:12Speaker 3: That exist exactly. So it's like there are a lot
- 38:15Speaker 3: of people in this I guess the quote unquote woke
- 38:17Speaker 3: stage right. So it's like, yo, if you're woke, let
- 38:20Speaker 3: it be in all assets of your life, right, not
- 38:22Speaker 3: just in your individual things that you're doing on day
- 38:24Speaker 3: to day, but even in investment. And this is one
- 38:26Speaker 3: of those things like like you said, prior to this,
- 38:28Speaker 3: I wasn't thinking about it. I had no idea, you
- 38:30Speaker 3: know what I mean.
- 38:30Speaker 2: It's so But then that brings it to another conversation
- 38:34Speaker 2: we talked to get shot out to Mice on last
- 38:36Speaker 2: week's episode was about the prison system. We didn't fully
- 38:40Speaker 2: go into the finances of publicly traded companies, but so
- 38:44Speaker 2: there's prison stocks, like private prison companies that are traded
- 38:50Speaker 2: on the Stock exchange. So a few of them are
- 38:53Speaker 2: cour Civic which is c x W, and g O Group,
- 38:58Speaker 2: which is geo. That's there, that's the symbol.
- 39:00Speaker 3: The crazy thing about cor Cific and this is crazy
- 39:02Speaker 3: that you said that. We don't even speak about this,
- 39:04Speaker 3: but dal Freeman shot out to Daal Freeman. If you
- 39:06Speaker 3: don't know Daalk Freeman, google him. I tell you his background.
- 39:09Speaker 3: But a very a very successful man in the world
- 39:12Speaker 3: of technology.
- 39:14Speaker 2: Uh.
- 39:14Speaker 3: He called me. He said, y'all loved that episode. The
- 39:17Speaker 3: actual the CEO of Courcific is my next door neighbor.
- 39:20Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
- 39:21Speaker 3: He was like, Yo, it's a big business and I'm
- 39:23Speaker 3: glad y'all talked to you episode. Yep, loved it. Sent
- 39:26Speaker 3: me the message and I was like, wow, that's incredible.
- 39:29Speaker 3: He was like, Yo, it's a big business. It's a city. Literally.
- 39:32Speaker 3: You got to think of these prisons, these private business
- 39:34Speaker 3: as cities. They need everything that a city needs. And
- 39:37Speaker 3: when you look at it like that, it's like damn.
- 39:39Speaker 3: He's right. Yeah, and his next door neighbor is the
- 39:41Speaker 3: guy who is in charge of that.
- 39:43Speaker 2: Well, there you have it. So yeah, those are two
- 39:46Speaker 2: private prison companies. Now. The crazy thing about those stocks,
- 39:49Speaker 2: so it's been even on that episode, my song had
- 39:51Speaker 2: said that private prison stocks skyrocketed after Trump got elected.
- 39:55Speaker 2: That is true. Both of those companies I think went
- 39:57Speaker 2: up over one hundred percent in the year following Trump's election,
- 39:59Speaker 2: but they've actually been down for the last like three
- 40:04Speaker 2: year and four years, Like their five year chart is
- 40:06Speaker 2: not really impressive, which is a good thing. I mean,
- 40:08Speaker 2: you know, but just wanted to throw that out there.
- 40:11Speaker 2: We have to tell both sides of the story. So
- 40:13Speaker 2: as an investment, they haven't really they're not booming. They're
- 40:17Speaker 2: not booming right now.
- 40:17Speaker 3: Which is good, which is good, which means that there's
- 40:19Speaker 3: less people going to prison.
- 40:21Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if there's less people going to prison.
- 40:23Speaker 2: But for whatever reason, this stock is just not doing well.
- 40:26Speaker 2: There could be a variety of different reasons why this
- 40:28Speaker 2: stock isn't doing well, but the stock has not really performed.
- 40:32Speaker 2: But what a lot of people don't fully understand is
- 40:34Speaker 2: that a lot of people are invested in especially cor Civic.
- 40:39Speaker 2: Up until last year, at the very least, a lot
- 40:42Speaker 2: of people are invested in Corsific without even knowing it
- 40:45Speaker 2: because through your four to one K, through your IRA,
- 40:50Speaker 2: through your pension plan. So Vanguard and Blackrock were the
- 40:54Speaker 2: two biggest holders I think they still are of private
- 40:58Speaker 2: prisons stocks. Black Rock Vanguard, two of the biggest mutual
- 41:04Speaker 2: fund companies. Everybody loves Vanguard because they have you know,
- 41:08Speaker 2: it's what I'm saying, it's a lot of it's a
- 41:10Speaker 2: lot of right and wrong in life. Right. People love
- 41:12Speaker 2: Vanguard because it's like it's a no load fund and
- 41:15Speaker 2: it's pretty much free to invest, and it's it's cheap,
- 41:18Speaker 2: and they're the biggest hold of prison stocks. By the way,
- 41:23Speaker 2: they also have a lot of four one K accounts.
- 41:25Speaker 2: Black Rock has a lot of four one K accounts, right,
- 41:28Speaker 2: so cour Civic c XW was in a lot of
- 41:32Speaker 2: these probably still are, and a lot of these four
- 41:35Speaker 2: one K make ups because when you invest in a
- 41:36Speaker 2: four one K, nobody knows what they're invested in. The
- 41:38Speaker 2: four one K you have probably three Like four one
- 41:43Speaker 2: K is like a menu and they give you like
- 41:44Speaker 2: twenty different options of how to invest right in twenty
- 41:46Speaker 2: different funds. Now, within one fund, it's like one hundred
- 41:49Speaker 2: different stocks inside of a fund. So if you have
- 41:52Speaker 2: like three different funds, you have like three hundred different
- 41:54Speaker 2: stocks inside of your fall one K that you're invested in.
- 41:57Speaker 3: You can do research on all of them.
- 41:58Speaker 2: Now, I guarantee you no nobody knows any of those companies.
- 42:02Speaker 2: Nobody knows any of those companies, right because you never asks.
- 42:06Speaker 2: It's not like just listed. As soon as when you
- 42:08Speaker 2: they just tell you the name of the company. So
- 42:09Speaker 2: it'll be like Vanguard twenty twenty fund or Vanguard High
- 42:14Speaker 2: interest bond fund or Vanguard small Cap Value fund. Right,
- 42:21Speaker 2: that's the name of the fund. But inside of the
- 42:24Speaker 2: small cap value fund, it's about one hundred and forty
- 42:27Speaker 2: different stocks.
- 42:29Speaker 3: That's when you get that big pamphlet that comes to
- 42:31Speaker 3: your house like that. Probably nobody ever goes through and
- 42:34Speaker 3: there's a bunch of these stocks and you're like, all right,
- 42:36Speaker 3: well did I make money or not? Pretty much?
- 42:39Speaker 2: Pretty much?
- 42:39Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Nobody's individually looking into one
- 42:42Speaker 3: hundred and forty different stocks and then actually researching those
- 42:45Speaker 3: stocks to see if they align with their values and moralities.
- 42:49Speaker 3: It is not happening.
- 42:50Speaker 2: No, it's not. But you can't say that you didn't
- 42:53Speaker 2: know at least because we told you. So you know,
- 42:57Speaker 2: if you're interested in it, you can do further research.
- 43:01Speaker 2: But so, just wanted to talk about the prison thing
- 43:02Speaker 2: because we did speak about that last week.
- 43:04Speaker 3: And it's some other things to know about these srs.
- 43:08Speaker 3: They tend to have a higher fee than regular funds,
- 43:11Speaker 3: and so I was like, what doesn't make sense. Why, Well,
- 43:14Speaker 3: the mutual fund has the person who's providing the fund
- 43:17Speaker 3: actually has to do more research. So there's more work
- 43:20Speaker 3: that the person has to do. Right, if they're gonna
- 43:22Speaker 3: do things that match your core values and your moralities,
- 43:25Speaker 3: it's like they have to find ethnical things that will
- 43:28Speaker 3: work for you. So there's a little bit more research.
- 43:30Speaker 3: So the fees tend to be a little bit higher.
- 43:32Speaker 3: And there's a there's a site that you can go
- 43:34Speaker 3: if you're into social fund uh social responsibility investing. Social
- 43:38Speaker 3: funds dot Com is the website so you can go
- 43:40Speaker 3: research on yourself. So that that's one thing that you
- 43:42Speaker 3: should do. Obviously, do the research and then know your values.
- 43:45Speaker 3: A lot of people don't know their own values, so
- 43:47Speaker 3: like when they're trying to invest, it's like, well, I
- 43:48Speaker 3: believe there's a know your own values before you're going
- 43:50Speaker 3: to go into this type of fund, all right, so
- 43:52Speaker 3: do the research. I just gave you the website. And
- 43:55Speaker 3: another thing is a lot of times and we've said
- 43:57Speaker 3: this website again Social funds dot Com, So you can
- 44:01Speaker 3: go there on your own leisure and do some research there.
- 44:04Speaker 3: But one of the things that it brought to my
- 44:06Speaker 3: mind is like we talk about diversifying when we're investing, right,
- 44:09Speaker 3: but like this type of fund doesn't. It kind of
- 44:11Speaker 3: doesn't allow you to do that, right because if you're
- 44:13Speaker 3: aligning everything with your values, isn't everything kind of going
- 44:17Speaker 3: to be the same if.
- 44:17Speaker 2: You No, No, you can invest in a variety of different
- 44:19Speaker 2: companies that don't that still align with your values, like
- 44:24Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, could be different industries. Like
- 44:25Speaker 2: it's just it's just harder, like you said, because it's
- 44:28Speaker 2: like you've really got to go through every single fine
- 44:31Speaker 2: come because it's like, all right, you're invested in a
- 44:33Speaker 2: tech company, but is this tech company providing software for
- 44:39Speaker 2: weapons of mass destruction? So now it's just so much
- 44:43Speaker 2: more intensive research that you have to do, which is
- 44:46Speaker 2: the fund manager's job. But you can still invest in
- 44:48Speaker 2: a variety like you can invest in tech, you can
- 44:51Speaker 2: invest in you know, farming, you can invest in financial institution,
- 44:56Speaker 2: like you can invest in different companies. It's just that
- 44:58Speaker 2: those different companies have to be in line with what
- 45:02Speaker 2: you feel comfortable with.
- 45:03Speaker 3: I would imagine that these funds are managed by very
- 45:06Speaker 3: very small companies. This feels like a niche thing that
- 45:09Speaker 3: like very small companies do.
- 45:11Speaker 2: No, Actually, Vanguard has well right, right, right, you're right,
- 45:13Speaker 2: you're right, Van Guard.
- 45:15Speaker 3: That's a big one.
- 45:15Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, but so going to what you just
- 45:20Speaker 2: said as far as the niche, so there's different layers
- 45:23Speaker 2: of socially responsible fund as well. Like I said, your Legion,
- 45:26Speaker 2: we just had to provide as much information as we
- 45:28Speaker 2: possibly can till every because there's so many different types
- 45:31Speaker 2: of people in this world. So you got the socially
- 45:33Speaker 2: conscious people that don't want to invest in those things.
- 45:36Speaker 2: But religion is a huge thing in this world, and
- 45:40Speaker 2: now you have religious people who can't or do not
- 45:44Speaker 2: want to invest in certain things because of their religion.
- 45:47Speaker 2: So now you have funds for that. It's fun for everything.
- 45:51Speaker 2: So you have Christian funds like Guidestone is a Christian fund,
- 45:56Speaker 2: and that's dedicated to invest in companies that that have
- 46:00Speaker 2: core Christian values. Kind of a vague situation, but you
- 46:05Speaker 2: know that's what that's designed for. You can do some
- 46:07Speaker 2: research and kind of forget out. Do you have av Maria,
- 46:14Speaker 2: which is a Catholic fund. There's a few Catholic funds.
- 46:17Speaker 2: So av Maria is Rising Dividend Fund, that's a that's
- 46:21Speaker 2: one of their their popular funds, and that's a Catholic fund.
- 46:25Speaker 2: So you know, Catholics, they're really big on like you know,
- 46:28Speaker 2: abortion and a couple other things. That's like real sticklers
- 46:32Speaker 2: for the Catholic Church. So they only invest in companies
- 46:36Speaker 2: that align with Catholic values. And then so just coming
- 46:41Speaker 2: off the month of Ramadan, we have a large listenership
- 46:45Speaker 2: all over the world and that includes America, which is
- 46:49Speaker 2: their huge Muslim population. There is a huge Muslim population
- 46:53Speaker 2: in Africa, huge Muslim population in Europe of course the
- 46:57Speaker 2: Middle East. So we have to say, as some malay
- 47:00Speaker 2: them to all of the Muslims that that tune in.
- 47:03Speaker 2: And one thing about Islam is that that's actually you know,
- 47:08Speaker 2: part of the religion is sharia law. Sharia law, So
- 47:13Speaker 2: people have a misunderstanding a lot of times what sharia
- 47:15Speaker 2: law is. I'm not gonna go into a full but
- 47:18Speaker 2: part of it is investing. Like there's actually guidelines, so
- 47:21Speaker 2: it's not really up for like vague interpretation, like if
- 47:25Speaker 2: you really are a hard line in the religion, there's
- 47:29Speaker 2: financial guidelines of how you can invest. So like interest
- 47:33Speaker 2: is outlawed in Muslim countries, so shouts our good friends
- 47:38Speaker 2: in Egypt, and I was over the house yesterday and
- 47:41Speaker 2: she was telling me that there's no there's no mortgages
- 47:43Speaker 2: in Egypt. No mortgages in Egypt. You just buy the land.
- 47:47Speaker 2: So interests, interest is outlaw. You're not allowed to charge
- 47:51Speaker 2: anybody interest. That's one thing, right. Of course, if you're
- 47:55Speaker 2: familiar with the religion, you know that. You know alcohol
- 47:57Speaker 2: is outlawed, variety of different factors. Gambling, there's no gambling.
- 48:03Speaker 2: Gambling is outlawed. So in Islam you have halal and haram.
- 48:10Speaker 2: Haram is forbidden, Halao is allowable. That's like deemed okay,
- 48:16Speaker 2: so now you.
- 48:16Speaker 3: Have to actually look that up. That was crazy on
- 48:19Speaker 3: the jail Etronic album.
- 48:20Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so now you have you have halal funds.
- 48:25Speaker 2: One of the most popular funds is called a man
- 48:27Speaker 2: of fund. So the man of fund is a mutual
- 48:30Speaker 2: fund based around Sharia law which is halal and allows
- 48:34Speaker 2: Muslims that if you want to, if you want to
- 48:36Speaker 2: follow those guidelines, that you can actually invest and the
- 48:41Speaker 2: amount of fund only invest in alal companies, meaning companies
- 48:46Speaker 2: that don't partake in gambling, companies that don't partake and
- 48:51Speaker 2: interest interest bearing accounts, companies that don't partake in alcohol,
- 48:56Speaker 2: a variety of other things as well, So that that's
- 49:00Speaker 2: something that is a big play as well, because like
- 49:02Speaker 2: I said, I mean, no matter what religion you follow,
- 49:05Speaker 2: if you're Jewish, they have culture funds as well. It's
- 49:08Speaker 2: the same thing kulshure and halal kind of the same
- 49:11Speaker 2: thing as far as like the meaning of it, where
- 49:14Speaker 2: like Jewish people have like if you're a strict hardline
- 49:18Speaker 2: jew you are only really supposed to indulge in kulshure.
- 49:22Speaker 2: But kulture is more than just food.
- 49:24Speaker 3: Right, I think that's that's a crazy misconception that people
- 49:27Speaker 3: only think it's a food.
- 49:28Speaker 2: Then the same thing with allow, like you see to
- 49:29Speaker 2: allow guys or to allow truck. So people when they
- 49:32Speaker 2: think about hallo, especially like if you live in New
- 49:33Speaker 2: York City or like, like you're pretty popular, it's pretty popular,
- 49:37Speaker 2: allow food. And that is a certain way where the
- 49:40Speaker 2: food the animals like are you know, slaughtered and you
- 49:43Speaker 2: say a prayer and certain things. The same thing with kosher,
- 49:45Speaker 2: but that's only part of it. So like with the culture.
- 49:48Speaker 2: That's the only part of it, like you know, as
- 49:50Speaker 2: far as like then's the same kind of idea. And
- 49:54Speaker 2: like I said, that's that's true with a variety of
- 49:56Speaker 2: different religions where it's like, you know, depending on what
- 50:00Speaker 2: religion you subscribe to, that might you know, have a
- 50:05Speaker 2: play in how you choose to invest. So those are
- 50:09Speaker 2: all things to think about as well.
- 50:10Speaker 3: I know they're listening like Yo, damn shitty, sound like
- 50:13Speaker 3: a history professor. This dude literally studies religion like no
- 50:15Speaker 3: Joe and anybody that knows has ever had a conversation
- 50:18Speaker 3: with him, they know, like he loves talking about religion.
- 50:21Speaker 3: Shout de val who always brings it up. She always
- 50:25Speaker 3: talks about how you've taught us so much about the world.
- 50:27Speaker 3: But yeah, I know, this is one of your sweet points.
- 50:28Speaker 2: So history has been my favorite subject since I was
- 50:31Speaker 2: a little kid.
- 50:31Speaker 3: Definitely.
- 50:32Speaker 2: I took a history of religion class when I was
- 50:34Speaker 2: in college and I never study, never got one broken,
- 50:36Speaker 2: got an A plus because I just already knew so
- 50:39Speaker 2: much about religion, all religions. I'm just fascinated by you know,
- 50:42Speaker 2: I think it's interesting to learn about Christianity, Islam, Judaism,
- 50:48Speaker 2: Buddhism seek. I have friends that are all different religions,
- 50:52Speaker 2: and you know, for me personally, I don't think that
- 50:55Speaker 2: there's any one religion that is reigned supreme, whatever you know,
- 51:01Speaker 2: you feel comfortable with. I'm not here to judge, but
- 51:04Speaker 2: I just you know, I always found religion interesting because
- 51:07Speaker 2: I realized how how touchy it is, and it's like
- 51:10Speaker 2: people die over their religion. People will kill you over
- 51:12Speaker 2: their religion, and it's like you can't play around. That's
- 51:14Speaker 2: why we don't really talk about religion too much.
- 51:16Speaker 3: Some people don't want to be separated from.
- 51:17Speaker 2: You can't play around with religion. So it's like it's interesting,
- 51:21Speaker 2: It's interesting to me, and it's fascinating. So I try
- 51:24Speaker 2: to learn as much about religion as I possibly can
- 51:26Speaker 2: because I feel like a lot of times, most of
- 51:28Speaker 2: the time, we just we follow whatever religion we're born into.
- 51:31Speaker 2: And that's not really a belief system. That's more superstition.
- 51:34Speaker 2: When you when you believe in something that you don't
- 51:36Speaker 2: fully understand, is superstition.
- 51:37Speaker 3: You've been You've been bred to believe that.
- 51:39Speaker 2: Stevie Wonder said that, So now when you have a
- 51:43Speaker 2: full understanding of things, not only does it open your
- 51:45Speaker 2: perspective and make you more open to the world. But
- 51:48Speaker 2: at least even if the thing that you do fully
- 51:50Speaker 2: believe in, you can actually believe in it as opposed
- 51:54Speaker 2: to just doing it because everybody in your family does
- 51:57Speaker 2: it and you feel like you're going to be cursed
- 51:59Speaker 2: if you don't do it.
- 52:00Speaker 3: You've been you've stunned the research on your own, You've
- 52:03Speaker 3: allowed yourself to critically think, You've allowed yourself to analyze,
- 52:06Speaker 3: and like, that's the goal in life, right, allowed yourself
- 52:09Speaker 3: and allow others to freely think and freely choose. You
- 52:12Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like I think that is as
- 52:15Speaker 3: an educator, like that's the number one thing I'm looking for.
- 52:17Speaker 3: Can I allow these students to critically think for themselves?
- 52:20Speaker 3: And we should have that same mindset when it comes
- 52:22Speaker 3: to our family and our children.
- 52:24Speaker 2: That's a fact. So the last thing with the stocks,
- 52:26Speaker 2: this is pretty disturbing and it's all a financial place.
- 52:30Speaker 2: So now people might want to invest in black owned companies.
- 52:33Speaker 2: It's like black who are then invest in black But
- 52:37Speaker 2: from an investing standpoint, it's like what if I want
- 52:40Speaker 2: to invest money in the stock market, but I want
- 52:43Speaker 2: to invest in black owned companies.
- 52:44Speaker 3: A lot of people want to do that, right, but
- 52:46Speaker 3: we we buy black.
- 52:47Speaker 2: Shout out to them, Yeah, shout out to we buy black.
- 52:48Speaker 2: Those my people, good good people.
- 52:50Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 52:51Speaker 2: So all right, it's like a black owned fund. I
- 52:55Speaker 2: couldn't find any. I could like a black ETF or
- 52:58Speaker 2: a black mutual fund that only had black companies.
- 53:00Speaker 3: Couldn't find anything. Yeah, and maybe there are awesome. I
- 53:03Speaker 3: couldn't find any either, but maybe there are some.
- 53:05Speaker 2: Well. I think the reason why there are none that
- 53:08Speaker 2: I could find is that out of four thousand stocks
- 53:11Speaker 2: on the New York Stock Exchange, twelve are black companies. Twelve.
- 53:16Speaker 2: That is so disturbing that that's a whole different conversation.
- 53:20Speaker 2: You're talking about economic and that's what people don't fully understand.
- 53:22Speaker 2: It's like black people are so far behind. It's just
- 53:26Speaker 2: it's almost it's amazing. It's like it's like running a
- 53:29Speaker 2: marathon and you like twenty three miles in and you
- 53:34Speaker 2: just started the race, and somebody else is twenty three
- 53:37Speaker 2: miles in.
- 53:37Speaker 3: So it's like we're on a treadmill. There's a marathon
- 53:40Speaker 3: going on, were on a treadmill.
- 53:41Speaker 2: That's not even one percent, that's less than one percent
- 53:44Speaker 2: of twelve twelve out of four thousand companies are publicly traded.
- 53:50Speaker 2: So you were talking about economic empowerment, and it's like
- 53:53Speaker 2: a lot of times it's on a broader on a
- 53:55Speaker 2: small scale when you start looking at it from a
- 53:57Speaker 2: large scale as far as like companies and billions of
- 54:00Speaker 2: dollars and things of that nature, and like publicly traded companies,
- 54:04Speaker 2: there's twelve out of four thousand, like diversity.
- 54:09Speaker 3: I mean, it's crazy. And during the research, I actually,
- 54:13Speaker 3: you know, I was proud to find out that I'm
- 54:14Speaker 3: actually invested in one, well not invested, but I do
- 54:17Speaker 3: business with one at least, And I was I'm looking
- 54:19Speaker 3: at the other ones. I'm like, I don't even know these.
- 54:21Speaker 3: I don't even know these, So you want to run
- 54:23Speaker 3: down field?
- 54:23Speaker 2: Yeah, I got four that I people might know. Citizens
- 54:27Speaker 2: with their symbol is c z b S.
- 54:31Speaker 3: That's what I actually have my mortgage through. So not
- 54:34Speaker 3: that I'm invested in it, but we do business together. Yeah.
- 54:37Speaker 2: Citizens is a black owned bank.
- 54:38Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 54:39Speaker 2: For one, like the number four one, and that is
- 54:45Speaker 2: formally used to be Urban one, which is a radio. No,
- 54:49Speaker 2: it's Urban one. For to one is Urban one, and
- 54:51Speaker 2: it used to be Radio one. Okay, it's a radio syndicate.
- 54:54Speaker 2: No no, RLJ, which is a larging lodging company owned
- 55:00Speaker 2: by Robert Johnson, former owner of BT, former owner of
- 55:04Speaker 2: the Bobcats.
- 55:05Speaker 3: Yep. First billionaires, black billionaire.
- 55:10Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. And then Carver Bank another black owned.
- 55:16Speaker 2: There's a few black owned banks. Yeah, Carver Bank, which
- 55:19Speaker 2: is encouraging that they have.
- 55:21Speaker 3: We have black owned banks that are being publicly traded.
- 55:24Speaker 2: That's important. You want to list a few others.
- 55:26Speaker 3: Well, we have the same one so but.
- 55:29Speaker 2: So yeah, so but so. Not only is this discouraging
- 55:32Speaker 2: as there's only twelve, even more so discouraging than that.
- 55:35Speaker 2: It's like you look at these charts, look at all
- 55:37Speaker 2: of their charts. None of them have good charts, none
- 55:39Speaker 2: of them. None of them. You look at Ian's technical analysis,
- 55:44Speaker 2: would be buys. As far as if you want to
- 55:45Speaker 2: make money, they've all they haven't. They don't. They're not
- 55:49Speaker 2: doing well. As far as on the stock. The stock
- 55:51Speaker 2: has not done well for five years, looking at the
- 55:53Speaker 2: five year chart, and it's not good.
- 55:55Speaker 3: And it's going to be tough to find there a
- 55:57Speaker 3: lot of these companies have a ten year charge or
- 56:00Speaker 3: twentieth even sometimes it goes back to the history thirty
- 56:02Speaker 3: year chart. A lot of these companies that doesn't exist.
- 56:06Speaker 3: It just doesn't exist.
- 56:07Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even know what to say about that.
- 56:08Speaker 2: That's just that's something just to like as far as
- 56:11Speaker 2: working forward to something.
- 56:13Speaker 3: But that's I mean, a lot of that has to
- 56:14Speaker 3: do with a lot of systematic things that were put
- 56:16Speaker 3: in place so that it couldn't exist. We won't want
- 56:18Speaker 3: to ignore that fact, right, So having our own private
- 56:21Speaker 3: own company, or even having a black owned bank systematically
- 56:24Speaker 3: in America for years, that wasn't even a possibility. So
- 56:27Speaker 3: there are reasons why we don't have a long history
- 56:29Speaker 3: of it. So let's not ignore that fact. But like
- 56:31Speaker 3: I said, when we go back to the history of
- 56:33Speaker 3: some of these companies that we look at, we do
- 56:34Speaker 3: look at the ten year chart, we do look at
- 56:36Speaker 3: twenty year or the history of the company's chart, and
- 56:38Speaker 3: that's just not available right now for these companies.
- 56:41Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know that's some information if you're interested
- 56:45Speaker 2: in socially responsive funds, religious funds, black owned companies, you know,
- 56:50Speaker 2: just a different different take on investing because we talk
- 56:53Speaker 2: about investing a lot. So we just want to just
- 56:54Speaker 2: give people a different a different take on it, and
- 56:57Speaker 2: you can kind of do whatever you want with the information,
- 56:59Speaker 2: but it you know, hopefully that that that shines some
- 57:02Speaker 2: light good and bad, good and bad, because everything's not
- 57:05Speaker 2: gonna be a good story. Yeah. Sometimes, you know, it's
- 57:08Speaker 2: just the news is just that we have to just
- 57:10Speaker 2: report what it is. And it's not always it's not
- 57:13Speaker 2: always encouraging, but sometimes you need stuff that's not encouraging
- 57:17Speaker 2: to encourage you. So hopefully some of the information, especially
- 57:21Speaker 2: with the black owned publicly traded company, hopefully somebody listening
- 57:25Speaker 2: to this and make it a goal and have it
- 57:28Speaker 2: and have their company be the stock that everybody wants
- 57:32Speaker 2: to invest in, not just a token company that's on
- 57:34Speaker 2: the stock echange that nobody's invested in that is just
- 57:37Speaker 2: going nowhere. We not only my goal is to have
- 57:40Speaker 2: a publicly traded company. My goal is to be bigger
- 57:43Speaker 2: than Amazon, bigger than Apple, bigger than Google.
- 57:45Speaker 3: We need that type aspiration in our community. We need it.
- 57:48Speaker 2: Why not somebody gotta do it.
- 57:49Speaker 3: Yeah, we make these We make a lot of those
- 57:51Speaker 3: companies what they are, so we can make our own.
- 57:54Speaker 2: That's a fact, all right. So in the next time,
- 57:57Speaker 2: we're going to bring it home with some marketing, all right,
- 58:01Speaker 2: So we're gonna wrap it up with some conversation about
- 58:04Speaker 2: marketing around social injustice, social issue things of that nature.
- 58:11Speaker 3: So you want to take the lead on that, yeah, man,
- 58:13Speaker 3: I mean we've we've seen companies in the past, especially Nike,
- 58:16Speaker 3: when they stood by Colin Kaepernick and had his whole
- 58:18Speaker 3: campaign during the social injustice and him taking the knee,
- 58:21Speaker 3: and we saw the backlash from that from pretty much
- 58:26Speaker 3: half of the country didn't agree with it. And then
- 58:29Speaker 3: this day and age with the George Floyd case, Uh,
- 58:32Speaker 3: we've seen that these companies are taking the stance again.
- 58:34Speaker 3: Not only is Nike doing the for the first time
- 58:37Speaker 3: Don't Do It campaign, which talks about don't turn a
- 58:40Speaker 3: blind eye into to racism, don't turn a blind eye
- 58:43Speaker 3: to police brutality. And it's something that I've been expressing
- 58:47Speaker 3: all week, really like, if you don't stand by me,
- 58:50Speaker 3: if you care about me, if you care about Shaddy,
- 58:52Speaker 3: and you don't feel angered and outraged by what's happening,
- 58:54Speaker 3: then do you really love us? You know what I'm saying.
- 58:57Speaker 3: So not to say that Nike does, but the fact
- 58:59Speaker 3: that they've even spoken, but I know Lebron James has
- 59:01Speaker 3: done a tremendous job about speaking up about these issues
- 59:04Speaker 3: and continues to and there's a lot of other athletes
- 59:06Speaker 3: that do as well. But now we see that Adida
- 59:08Speaker 3: has decided they want to jump in the campaign and
- 59:11Speaker 3: showed unity by I think they tweeted what Nike had
- 59:14Speaker 3: put up, which was which was dope. I thought it
- 59:16Speaker 3: was dope to see those two companies come together. But
- 59:18Speaker 3: then Rebok, which I thought was probably one of the
- 59:21Speaker 3: better messages that I've seen, and their campaign was without
- 59:25Speaker 3: the black community. Rebok wind exists without the black community.
- 59:28Speaker 3: The world when America wind exists, And.
- 59:30Speaker 2: I was like, the world wouldn't exist.
- 59:32Speaker 3: The world the world went exist, but they put America
- 59:34Speaker 3: when exists. But we know that the world wouldn't exist.
- 59:36Speaker 3: So the country that we live in obviously was built
- 59:38Speaker 3: on the back of our ancestors. So to hear, you know,
- 59:41Speaker 3: these companies say that, and more of the companies need
- 59:43Speaker 3: to say that.
- 59:43Speaker 2: Right.
- 59:43Speaker 3: It's not just because like, oh wait, they were looting targets. Now,
- 59:46Speaker 3: Target should make a statement, now this is happening in Minnesota,
- 59:49Speaker 3: the headquarters of your company. You should have a statement, right,
- 59:52Speaker 3: you should be saying something. You should be standing with
- 59:54Speaker 3: these people because of an injustice to me, should be an
- 59:56Speaker 3: injustice to.
- 59:57Speaker 2: You, right, injustice to some as an injustice to all.
- 1:00:00Speaker 2: And I feel like if you have a responsibility to
- 1:00:05Speaker 2: say something, is it thin line? Because it's like some
- 1:00:07Speaker 2: people say, like, all right, you don't want to exploit
- 1:00:10Speaker 2: a situation, right, but also you have to address it.
- 1:00:14Speaker 2: You have to address it.
- 1:00:15Speaker 3: Yeah, Silence almost Like I keep seeing this, and we've
- 1:00:18Speaker 3: been saying that for a long time. Silence in most
- 1:00:20Speaker 3: cases equals complicency, right, So if you're not saying anything,
- 1:00:24Speaker 3: then it means you're complicent, right that you must not
- 1:00:27Speaker 3: feel a way or you agree with what is happening.
- 1:00:29Speaker 3: So anybody in this, especially in this past week or
- 1:00:33Speaker 3: so and for years, because like I said, this has
- 1:00:36Speaker 3: been going on like we were born into this, you
- 1:00:38Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like we've been born into this.
- 1:00:40Speaker 3: We don't seem police brutality from nineteen ninety one with
- 1:00:42Speaker 3: Rodney King up until this week, and it's like this
- 1:00:45Speaker 3: isn't new to us. So for people to continuously ignore it,
- 1:00:49Speaker 3: con sideriously have no stance on it, or continuously try
- 1:00:52Speaker 3: to victimize the victims. That happens a lot, like we
- 1:00:55Speaker 3: victimize the victims of these strgedies. It's crazy to me.
- 1:00:59Speaker 3: So it's it's good to see that some companies stepping up.
- 1:01:01Speaker 3: I think more.
- 1:01:02Speaker 2: I think every company needs to step up and say something.
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: And the companies that don't step up and say something,
- 1:01:09Speaker 2: take note the entertainers and athletes and things. And I
- 1:01:14Speaker 2: wanted to talk about this too because it's like a
- 1:01:15Speaker 2: lot of times people don't understand. It's like I put
- 1:01:18Speaker 2: this on Instagram. It's like having money does not equate
- 1:01:21Speaker 2: to having freedom. And we learned that big different. We
- 1:01:25Speaker 2: made a lot of relationship with NFL players, and we
- 1:01:27Speaker 2: was hanging out with NFL player last summer and he
- 1:01:29Speaker 2: was telling us around the time with Callan Kaepernick, like
- 1:01:32Speaker 2: most NFL players are not wealthy. They're like, you know,
- 1:01:36Speaker 2: one hundred five hundred thousand, maybe seven hundred thousand, but
- 1:01:39Speaker 2: in the grand scheme of things, that's not that that's
- 1:01:41Speaker 2: not real money, and it's like they can't afford to
- 1:01:45Speaker 2: lose their job. So he was like his owner, the
- 1:01:48Speaker 2: owner of that team that he was playing on, came
- 1:01:51Speaker 2: out and said she didn't want anybody taking a knee
- 1:01:55Speaker 2: they don't agree with that?
- 1:01:56Speaker 3: Better not Yeah, pretty much like straight up.
- 1:01:59Speaker 2: In fact, Jarry Jones said that I shouldn't do it. Yeah,
- 1:02:01Speaker 2: he did say that.
- 1:02:02Speaker 3: And what Dak Prescott and Zeke Elliott do They stood
- 1:02:06Speaker 3: up felling the felling a line yep.
- 1:02:08Speaker 2: And so one of his teammates actually decided to take
- 1:02:12Speaker 2: a knee, and not only was he released from the
- 1:02:15Speaker 2: team the next day, his father, who was a bus.
- 1:02:21Speaker 3: Driver or some kind of totally different states.
- 1:02:23Speaker 2: Civic job in a different state, was fired. So this
- 1:02:28Speaker 2: is the kind of pressure that a lot of these
- 1:02:30Speaker 2: entertainers and athletes. So it's like, when you're looking at it, entertainer,
- 1:02:33Speaker 2: First of all, I have an issue with entertainers and
- 1:02:37Speaker 2: athletes being looked at as leaders. And anybody knows me, no,
- 1:02:41Speaker 2: I love entertainers and athletes, but it's like, if you
- 1:02:44Speaker 2: devote your life to entertaining us, or if you devote
- 1:02:48Speaker 2: your life to being an athlete. I wasn't really mad
- 1:02:51Speaker 2: what Michael Jordan said about like, my main focus in
- 1:02:53Speaker 2: my life was being a basketball player. That's not really
- 1:02:57Speaker 2: an issue for me. The issue is that we expect
- 1:02:59Speaker 2: him to be a political leader. There are political leaders,
- 1:03:03Speaker 2: there are doctors, there are scientists, there are financial people.
- 1:03:07Speaker 2: So it's like, I'm not saying that we shouldn't celebrate
- 1:03:10Speaker 2: our athletes and entertainers. The problem comes in when they
- 1:03:15Speaker 2: are celebrated one thousand times more than our engineers, our doctors,
- 1:03:20Speaker 2: our lawyers, our financial leaders are politicians, because now you
- 1:03:24Speaker 2: marginalize those people who really do have something.
- 1:03:27Speaker 3: To exactly, and that was what and that's what Mike
- 1:03:29Speaker 3: said too, to his credit, not that I agree or
- 1:03:31Speaker 3: disagree with it, but he was like, I didn't speak
- 1:03:33Speaker 3: on it because I don't have enough knowledge. That's not
- 1:03:35Speaker 3: what I don't I play ball. I'm saying.
- 1:03:38Speaker 2: I'm not saying to make myself look crazy. I'm not
- 1:03:41Speaker 2: a politician. I'm not a doctor, a scientist. I'm a
- 1:03:46Speaker 2: basketball player.
- 1:03:47Speaker 3: We're not asking, yo, Aaron Judge, what do you think, Like, No,
- 1:03:51Speaker 3: that's not what you're here to play baseball? Play baseball. Yeah,
- 1:03:54Speaker 3: you can have an opinion if you like to speak up, great,
- 1:03:56Speaker 3: I'm not counting on you to speak up.
- 1:03:57Speaker 2: And that only happens in our community. Malcolm said that
- 1:04:00Speaker 2: over fifty years ago, only in the black community when
- 1:04:05Speaker 2: issues come up, do athletes and entertainers take the front line.
- 1:04:10Speaker 2: And it's not wrong that because some of our greatest
- 1:04:12Speaker 2: athletes going Lebron James kudos to him, Muhammad Ali kudos,
- 1:04:17Speaker 2: Sammy Davis Jr. Had a lot to say.
- 1:04:21Speaker 3: Jackie Robbins, Jackie Robbins.
- 1:04:23Speaker 2: It's a bunch of people that have taken political stances,
- 1:04:26Speaker 2: whether it's through a variety of different actions, and we
- 1:04:31Speaker 2: salute that. I'm not trying to downplay entertainers or athletes.
- 1:04:36Speaker 2: What I'm saying is that stop putting so much emphasis,
- 1:04:41Speaker 2: stop over celebrating these people, and over having over expectations
- 1:04:47Speaker 2: for these Like you're expecting people who are not qualified
- 1:04:52Speaker 2: nine times out of ten to speak on your behalf
- 1:04:56Speaker 2: just because they're famous. Right. So it's like if we
- 1:05:00Speaker 2: had political figures, if we had business figures, if we
- 1:05:06Speaker 2: celebrated other people who are more qualified, who dedicated their
- 1:05:11Speaker 2: life to learning about issues that can speak intelligently, if
- 1:05:15Speaker 2: we celebrated them and elevated them, and we do sometimes,
- 1:05:18Speaker 2: like I said, ear your Leader is a perfect example
- 1:05:20Speaker 2: that you know, we definitely appreciate all of the support
- 1:05:22Speaker 2: that we have gotten, but I'm just saying, just to
- 1:05:25Speaker 2: keep it in perspective during these times, is that not
- 1:05:29Speaker 2: only do you sho should you pay attention of who's
- 1:05:31Speaker 2: saying what, but stop putting all of your expectations on
- 1:05:36Speaker 2: people that are here to entertain. That's their job to
- 1:05:39Speaker 2: entertain us. So as an entertainer, you are here to
- 1:05:47Speaker 2: nine times out of ten entertained. You can't expect that
- 1:05:51Speaker 2: person and you shouldn't be looking to that person to
- 1:05:55Speaker 2: be your political or economic voice. Be your own economic voice,
- 1:06:01Speaker 2: be your own political voice.
- 1:06:03Speaker 3: We have the power to do it, we have the
- 1:06:05Speaker 3: knowledge to do it right. It makes no sense why
- 1:06:07Speaker 3: we shouldn't do it while we were not doing it right.
- 1:06:10Speaker 3: We need to celebrate, like you said, celebrate the people
- 1:06:12Speaker 3: who actually are doing the work. Tamika Mary. I thought
- 1:06:15Speaker 3: I saw her on CNN. I was like, Yo, that's powerful.
- 1:06:17Speaker 3: Like I love her voice. She's speaking for a community's
- 1:06:20Speaker 3: speaking for a generation of people. Like we said, what
- 1:06:23Speaker 3: my son's doing, What Stephen Jackson was doing in Minneapolis,
- 1:06:26Speaker 3: I thought it was incredible. He actually had a relationship.
- 1:06:28Speaker 3: I came to find out with George Floyd. These people
- 1:06:32Speaker 3: are They're not You're not looking for them. They're showing themselves.
- 1:06:36Speaker 2: To us and throughout history. And like I said, because
- 1:06:39Speaker 2: like poets have always been celebrated, Like we listened to
- 1:06:42Speaker 2: rap every single day, but there was never a point
- 1:06:45Speaker 2: in time where Shakespeare was more powerful and more valued
- 1:06:51Speaker 2: than Caesar. Right, Like, that's not how civilizations work. That's
- 1:06:58Speaker 2: not how civilizations work.
- 1:06:59Speaker 3: We don't.
- 1:07:00Speaker 2: There's levels, right, there's levels of appreciation. There's levels for
- 1:07:07Speaker 2: people that should be elevated. And like I said, there's
- 1:07:10Speaker 2: always been entertainers, athletes, There's always been poets, musicians, artists.
- 1:07:18Speaker 2: But the problem, and this is when civilizations start to fall.
- 1:07:22Speaker 2: When when Rome built the coliseum, that's to keep people distracted, right,
- 1:07:29Speaker 2: And it's like entertained. So now you're entertaining these people,
- 1:07:35Speaker 2: and they lose track of what is really important.
- 1:07:38Speaker 3: Right, the gladiator becomes the figure.
- 1:07:41Speaker 2: Right, So and that's done intentionally to keep you off
- 1:07:45Speaker 2: what's really going on. And this is done throughout civilizations
- 1:07:49Speaker 2: throughout history. So just pay attention to that, keep that
- 1:07:54Speaker 2: in mind, and understand the level of appreciation that you
- 1:07:59Speaker 2: have for these entertainers. You should have that same level
- 1:08:03Speaker 2: of appreciation for other people because, as Derry Falcon said,
- 1:08:06Speaker 2: the entrepreneurs, the creatives are our future. This is why,
- 1:08:09Speaker 2: this is why un your Lisha is so important. The
- 1:08:11Speaker 2: political figures, the entrepreneurs, the creatives, those are our future
- 1:08:15Speaker 2: because as he said, I don't care how fast you
- 1:08:18Speaker 2: can jump, how far you you're gonna retire. An athlete's
- 1:08:22Speaker 2: career is four to five years if that, if they're lucky,
- 1:08:25Speaker 2: a good rapper might have a three year run. If that,
- 1:08:28Speaker 2: I don't care how many words you can put together.
- 1:08:31Speaker 2: Eventually you're not going to be hot. No more so,
- 1:08:34Speaker 2: what's more important than somebody getting in a booth and
- 1:08:38Speaker 2: being able to put together words that can rhyme is
- 1:08:42Speaker 2: somebody that can actually pay that person.
- 1:08:44Speaker 3: For that economic empowerment, economic freedom. Like that's it, Like
- 1:08:47Speaker 3: we have to get to that point where like Yo,
- 1:08:49Speaker 3: that needs to be celebrated, that needs to be elevated
- 1:08:51Speaker 3: and celebrate on educator too, Like they're the ones that
- 1:08:54Speaker 3: are passing right with They're passing the message on, they're
- 1:08:57Speaker 3: passing the knowledge on that can be a later applied
- 1:09:00Speaker 3: break them the same way that we do a lot
- 1:09:01Speaker 3: of these celebrities.
- 1:09:03Speaker 2: Sure, so this was this was this was a dope
- 1:09:05Speaker 2: episode to startpe for me. You know, it's like everybody else,
- 1:09:08Speaker 2: you know, we're going through a lot right now. And
- 1:09:10Speaker 2: it was just good just to get out here and
- 1:09:12Speaker 2: get some information to the public. Hopefully you guys were
- 1:09:15Speaker 2: able to take some some some some information from this.
- 1:09:18Speaker 2: That's the baility of this man and utilize it.
- 1:09:21Speaker 3: That'sability of it. Like we didn't have to say like, Yo,
- 1:09:23Speaker 3: we need to Yo, we're gonna go do this, Like
- 1:09:25Speaker 3: all right, let's do it today. We're now waiting, like
- 1:09:28Speaker 3: I know, you know, people were like, hey, what's just
- 1:09:30Speaker 3: this is our stands, like we recorded it as we
- 1:09:33Speaker 3: all now to apply some information and make some changes
- 1:09:35Speaker 3: that y'all want.
- 1:09:36Speaker 2: To see for sure.
- 1:09:37Speaker 3: So Troy, yeah, yeah, you know. We we usually you know,
- 1:09:42Speaker 3: shout out what we're doing. But more importantly, since this
- 1:09:45Speaker 3: is like a state of the emergency state of the
- 1:09:47Speaker 3: Union for our community, we wanted to highlight some other people.
- 1:09:51Speaker 3: And I think it would be more appropriate for us
- 1:09:54Speaker 3: to acknowledge some other funds that are happening right now
- 1:09:58Speaker 3: in America and that ca help our community. So you
- 1:10:01Speaker 3: want to start with the first one, you can start,
- 1:10:03Speaker 3: all right, So first and foremost I did the research
- 1:10:06Speaker 3: and decided, you know, the Minnesota Freedom Fund. I think
- 1:10:10Speaker 3: everybody should be aware of what that is. A lot
- 1:10:12Speaker 3: of that is going on in Miniapis right now. And
- 1:10:15Speaker 3: what that fund does is it bails out people who've
- 1:10:19Speaker 3: been arrested for political protests. So they're small bails, but
- 1:10:23Speaker 3: a lot of people are being arrested because a lot
- 1:10:25Speaker 3: of them are peacefully protesting. I want to I don't
- 1:10:27Speaker 3: want you all get confused and think that our people
- 1:10:30Speaker 3: are rioting. A lot of our people are peacefully protesting.
- 1:10:33Speaker 3: The media has portrayed in a certain light. Yes, there
- 1:10:35Speaker 3: are people who are doing other things, but for the
- 1:10:37Speaker 3: people who are peacefully protesting, the Minnesota Freedom Fund bails
- 1:10:42Speaker 3: those people out. And I think it would be appropriate
- 1:10:44Speaker 3: for us to acknowledge the George Floyd Fund. His family
- 1:10:48Speaker 3: fund is a gofund me fund. If you could donate
- 1:10:51Speaker 3: to that, it goes directly to the family. I know
- 1:10:53Speaker 3: they over five million dollars already right now. We can't
- 1:10:56Speaker 3: forget that that is somebody's husband, that is somebody's father,
- 1:11:00Speaker 3: that is somebody's son. And you know, his last words
- 1:11:03Speaker 3: and this hit me yesterday when we were doing the research.
- 1:11:06Speaker 3: His last words were, you know, I can't breathe and
- 1:11:08Speaker 3: calling for his mom. I didn't even know that his
- 1:11:11Speaker 3: mom had passed away two years ago, so that hit
- 1:11:14Speaker 3: me so hard, knowing that in his last moments he's
- 1:11:16Speaker 3: crying to reach his mom who had passed away literally
- 1:11:21Speaker 3: to the day. I think the anniversary of your fur
- 1:11:23Speaker 3: death was this week, So you know, donate to that.
- 1:11:29Speaker 3: We will be doing that and we encourage you to
- 1:11:31Speaker 3: do the same.
- 1:11:32Speaker 2: Yeah, stay safe out there, stay encouraged, stay healthy, and
- 1:11:35Speaker 2: once again recipes to all of the people that have
- 1:11:37Speaker 2: full victim of police brutality throughout the last three hundred years,
- 1:11:43Speaker 2: four hundred, four hundred years in the United States of
- 1:11:45Speaker 2: America and all over the world. Thank you guys for
- 1:11:48Speaker 2: rocking with us. We'll see you next week. Peace.
- 1:11:50Speaker 3: Peace.
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