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CONFERENCE TOURNAMENT FUTURES (Part 1) | College Basketball Best Bets · Toadstool Sports

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  Speaker 1: Yep. Inside I want to kill myself. We are on
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  Speaker 1: Own seven run over the last two days after tonight
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  Speaker 1: it was just complete bullshit. So that's that's I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: start off this show horrible Sunday one and five.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know.
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  Speaker 1: What to tell you about that.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't want to do this anymore. I have
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  Speaker 2: never seen anything like this.
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  Speaker 1: Man with the slump continuing. Two straight losses, not a
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  Speaker 1: good day at all all in four that.
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  Speaker 2: Have not had a good season.
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  Speaker 1: Man with wookends the slump that I'm on, and the
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  Speaker 1: slump continues.
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  Speaker 2: I've reached a new pink.
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  Speaker 1: Actually, I'm going to burn my browins hat man, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what is going on with the bruins arch hape?
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  Speaker 1: Is that what it is? I don't even know it's
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  Speaker 1: It's March ninth, I think who even knows?
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  Speaker 2: Man, I don't know what day it is anymore.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't even know what day it is anymore. Man,
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  Speaker 1: back with you after the worst day that I could
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  Speaker 1: possibly have, Back with who as I always am until
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  Speaker 1: I die at least oh and two. Yesterday and yesterday
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  Speaker 1: it did not go well for me. Own five, the
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  Speaker 1: worst month that I've ever had in my eighteen years
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  Speaker 1: doing this.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what to even tell you about this anymore.
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  Speaker 1: To the slump series, the slump discontinuous, the slump continues.
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  Speaker 2: Somebody fucking kill me, please.
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  Speaker 3: I don't even know what I should do at this point,
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  Speaker 3: other than potentially end it all.
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  Speaker 1: What's up, everybody, It's towed back with you, toadstool sports.
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  Speaker 2: This is gonna be I'm gonna do a.
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  Speaker 1: Few videos, at least a few, I guess. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: try to talk about my thoughts on every conference tournament
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  Speaker 1: in college basketball, just because college basketball is, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, March Maddis is my obsession.
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  Speaker 2: I kind of consider this to be the start of
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  Speaker 2: March Madness.
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  Speaker 1: We do have several conference tournament brackets are already out,
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  Speaker 1: and the conference tournaments actually start tomorrow, only the opening
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  Speaker 1: round game of the Horizon League, which has the weirdest structure.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm gonna talk about the ones that are out
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  Speaker 1: so far. I'm gonna talk about the betting odds. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not gonna like fill out the brackets, but you'll probably
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  Speaker 1: kind of get my thoughts on like what I think
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  Speaker 1: about these teams and whatever. I'm gonna bring Ken Palm
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  Speaker 1: up right now as well, just so I have that
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  Speaker 1: up as well. Yeah, I mean, it'll just be my
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  Speaker 1: thoughts kind of spur in the moment. I don't even
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  Speaker 1: know what some of the betting odds are. I kind
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  Speaker 1: of know what the bracket structures look like now for
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  Speaker 1: a lot of these conferences. Some are insane, So I
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  Speaker 1: will talk about that and then but I will talk
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  Speaker 1: about generally, I am gonna I'm gonna talk about every
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  Speaker 1: single game, like I'm gonna do like a betting breakdown
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  Speaker 1: on my daily show for every single conference tournament game.
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  Speaker 1: So I will do that as well, which is something
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  Speaker 1: I did last year as well, and I have sporadic
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  Speaker 1: bets on some of them as well. But basically, what
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  Speaker 1: you want to look at small confer it says, basically
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  Speaker 1: every team is trying to win because the small conferences,
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  Speaker 1: it's pretty easy, right, Like the winner is gonna make
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  Speaker 1: the NCAA tournament and none of the other teams are,
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  Speaker 1: So the motivation is not really a question like every
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  Speaker 1: team is trying to win the whole thing if they can.
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  Speaker 1: But you do have other like situational aspects to this
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  Speaker 1: where you'll have like, I think that it's actually an
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  Speaker 1: advantage when a team is played like one game already,
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  Speaker 1: or maybe even a couple of games already, and they're
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  Speaker 1: up against a team that hasn't played yet, because those.
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  Speaker 2: Teams are already used to playing.
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  Speaker 1: Like a lot of times, it'll be like in the
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  Speaker 1: same arena as well, depending on the structure of the
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  Speaker 1: conference tournament and where the sites are. So I think
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  Speaker 1: the teams have an advantage if they've won a game,
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  Speaker 1: especially if it wasn't like a huge effort game or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: and they got that momentum, they got used to the
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  Speaker 1: arena they're playing and whatever, shed the nerves and they
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  Speaker 1: get into the next game. So there is an advantage
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  Speaker 1: I think to a team that's already played up to
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  Speaker 1: a certain point, which you're gonna see. With how insane
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  Speaker 1: the Sun Belt and the WCC tournament structures are, the
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  Speaker 1: Sun Belt especially, you could wind up with a situation
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  Speaker 1: where a team is playing like a ridiculous amount of
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  Speaker 1: games in a row, one game per night, up against
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  Speaker 1: the team that hasn't played for like five nights, which
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  Speaker 1: is an insane scenario, and then it's like, well, which
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  Speaker 1: one wins out does the winning momentum win out or does.
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  Speaker 2: The rest win out? Or is the rest of the
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  Speaker 2: team too rusty?
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  Speaker 1: Is the team that has all the momentum too tired
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  Speaker 1: at some point? So you have to try to like
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  Speaker 1: balance that eventu although I think again, after like one
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  Speaker 1: or two games played, I think that team that has
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  Speaker 1: played those games might have the edge. So that's something
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  Speaker 1: to look for as well. And obviously you want to see,
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  Speaker 1: like which teams do you think are actually like the
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  Speaker 1: better teams and are they overseeded in the tournament underseated
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  Speaker 1: in the tournament. You do want to look at previous
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  Speaker 1: matchups between the two teams as well, although I haven't
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  Speaker 1: really done that for this. I'm just trying to identify
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  Speaker 1: like futures betting opportunities. I'm not really a futures guy.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not really gonna recommend, like I'm not gonna put
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  Speaker 1: these out as official plays, but I'll tell you what
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  Speaker 1: I think, like where I think there might be some
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  Speaker 1: value on the futures in these conference tournaments, And at
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  Speaker 1: least for these you're gonna know if your bet wins
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  Speaker 1: within like a few days for the most part, so
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  Speaker 1: your money's not gonna be tied up for that long.
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  Speaker 2: So there is that, and you might get like hedging opportunities.
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  Speaker 1: If your team, you know, moves on multiple rounds or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: then you might be able to hedge some of it
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  Speaker 1: back on their opponent or whatever and come up with
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  Speaker 1: some wins, you know, come up with a guaranteed win
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  Speaker 1: that way, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Charles, what's up, dirty sock?
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  Speaker 1: What's up?
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's get into it, man.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna start with the Horizon Tournament, which is the
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  Speaker 1: most insane tournament structure that there is. This actually starts
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  Speaker 1: tomorrow with a game, and I'll show you the structure here,
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  Speaker 1: the bracket. I'm using ESPN for this. I will show
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  Speaker 1: DK for the odds here, and then I'm gonna look
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  Speaker 1: at Ken Bomb as well, just to see. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna bring up like the Horizon Conference specifically. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna try to get this done this way. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know how long this is gonna be. This is gonna
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  Speaker 1: be readhearted. What's up man? Thanks for hanging out? All right?
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  Speaker 1: I mean this is just gonna be like kind of
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  Speaker 1: spur of the moment, just like a hangout. More so,
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  Speaker 1: so I brought up the Horizon. You could see what
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  Speaker 1: we have here for ken BOM's rankings of these teams.
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  Speaker 1: I want to bring up like they're overall well, they're
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  Speaker 1: overall net rating, I guess on this page. He doesn't
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  Speaker 1: let you sort. Come on, ken Bomb, I just re
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  Speaker 1: upped my account with ken Bom. So by the way,
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  Speaker 1: I will tell you, I think it was like twenty
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  Speaker 1: seven or it might have been twenty five dollars a year.
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  Speaker 1: It's definitely worth it. So, oh god, but you can
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  Speaker 1: see who I am. You can see my username up there.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, all right, Horizon League, so we can see
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  Speaker 1: the odds here. We're gonna look at the bracket structure
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  Speaker 1: here as well. This is the Barbasol sponsored by Barbisol.
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  Speaker 1: It's a very manly sponsor. At least that's your shaving
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  Speaker 1: cream and whatever. So the way this tournament works is
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  Speaker 1: every team in the conference makes the tournament. The bottom
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  Speaker 1: two seeds are the ten and the eleven seed. They
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  Speaker 1: play tomorrow night, so that'll be the first conference tournament
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  Speaker 1: game that we get to see. Then the winner of
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  Speaker 1: that game will play the number one seed. Right state.
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  Speaker 1: The rest of the structure is I guess the two
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  Speaker 1: is playing the nine, the three is playing the eight,
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  Speaker 1: the four is playing the seven, the five is playing
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  Speaker 1: the six.
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  Speaker 2: But then there's a reseeding that goes on.
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  Speaker 1: So what happens after this big round gets played with
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  Speaker 1: the you know, the one through nine seeds, plus either
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  Speaker 1: the ten or eleven. After those winners are determined, then
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  Speaker 1: there's a reshuffle and the two lowest seeds that advance
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  Speaker 1: out of all of those play each other, and then
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  Speaker 1: the winner of that game gets to play the best
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  Speaker 1: seed that advances.
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  Speaker 2: From those are you following me here?
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  Speaker 1: And then the second best seed out of the winners
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  Speaker 1: gets to play against the third best seed, and the
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  Speaker 1: winner of that game would go to the championship. And
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  Speaker 1: then the best seed that had won out of the
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  Speaker 1: first round versus whoever the winner of the lowest two
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  Speaker 1: seeds is out of the first round, the winner of
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  Speaker 1: that game also makes the championship. So if that makes sense,
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  Speaker 1: If that all makes sense, They're the only conference that
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  Speaker 1: does this, So this conference does become kind of chaotic,
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  Speaker 1: and I think they have.
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  Speaker 2: Changed this structure recently.
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  Speaker 1: Now what we have here is so Cleveland State and
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  Speaker 1: indian I You Indianapolis are playing in the first game.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about that game tomorrow as a
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  Speaker 1: part of the betting. I think there is a way
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  Speaker 1: to bet that game it's over. I'm probably not gonna
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  Speaker 1: do it, but I think it's gonna be a ridiculously
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  Speaker 1: high scoring game. We know IU INDI is just a frenetic,
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  Speaker 1: fast paced team. They can't play deepfense. Cleveland State is
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  Speaker 1: also horrible on deepfense. So there's all that, and then
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  Speaker 1: the way the seeding worked out is Wright State did
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  Speaker 1: get the one seed. Robert Morris came out really strong
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  Speaker 1: towards the end of the season. They're the winners of
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  Speaker 1: this conference last year. They moved over to this conference
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  Speaker 1: not that long ago, and they are.
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  Speaker 2: The second seed.
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  Speaker 1: The three actually want to be Detroit Mercy, who I
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  Speaker 1: think is actually pretty overrated.
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  Speaker 2: Oakland I think is a legit team in this conference.
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  Speaker 1: They wound up being a four seed, and then Doug
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  Speaker 1: Gottlieb thrown chairs out. There is the five seed with
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  Speaker 1: Green Bay, and then we have IPF W, Northern Kentucky, Milwaukee,
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  Speaker 1: and Youngstown State rounding out the rest of those seeds.
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  Speaker 2: There. Garrett, what's up?
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for hanging out.
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  Speaker 2: Win's kill Wilson coming back?
• 9:48
  Speaker 1: I don't it. I almost said Caleb Williams. That wouldn't
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: been good Sunbelt tournament where they only have the sun
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  Speaker 1: Belt DraftKings and or DK and FD. I think I'm
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  Speaker 1: allowed to say it though those both have all of
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  Speaker 1: it up right now.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway, this is gonna take me a while. I
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  Speaker 2: keep doing this.
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  Speaker 1: If we look at the odds for this Horizon tournament here,
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  Speaker 1: oh crap, everything got taken down.
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  Speaker 2: Oh no it didn't.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, what for the Horizon, right State is
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  Speaker 1: a two to one, they have two to one odds.
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  Speaker 1: Then Robert Morris is next at plus two to eighty,
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  Speaker 1: so the one seed does have the best odds to
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  Speaker 1: win it. The two seed as the next. But then
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  Speaker 1: notice Detroit Mercy is only ten to one even though.
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  Speaker 2: They're the three seed.
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  Speaker 1: Oakland as the four seed, is plus four twenty five.
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  Speaker 1: And I think Oakland is actually where the value is
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  Speaker 1: in this tournament because they won it like two years ago.
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  Speaker 2: They still have the same coach from then.
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  Speaker 1: I think Oakland has a lot of coaching experience as
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  Speaker 1: far as this tournament is. And the other reason I
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  Speaker 1: like Oakland is that they played a gauntlet out of
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  Speaker 1: conference schedule like they played like Michigan State Perdue, and
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  Speaker 1: they played both those teams really close too. I think
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  Speaker 1: they might have played Houston as well, Like they really
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  Speaker 1: really tested themselves out of conference. And this is why
• 11:07
  Speaker 1: it's like the tom Izzo approach. It's to battle test
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  Speaker 1: you for scenarios like this. So I think they're set
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  Speaker 1: up well to make a run in a tournament like this.
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  Speaker 1: So Oakland would probably be the way that I would
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  Speaker 1: look as far as like a future, like getting some
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  Speaker 1: actual value there. Yeah, I don't know if I have
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  Speaker 1: a whole lot else to say about that, but I
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  Speaker 1: do think the Right State is probably gonna get you know,
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  Speaker 1: a decent They're probably gonna get.
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  Speaker 2: Through like the first round at least.
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  Speaker 1: And then, of course, the way the reshuffle works is
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  Speaker 1: if they beat the winner of Cleveland State versus IU Indy,
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  Speaker 1: which they should, even though Cleveland State beat them once
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  Speaker 1: in the regular season. I think that was a massive fluke.
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  Speaker 1: I see probably Robert Morris advancing as well. I wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: be shocked if Detroit Mercy goes down almost immediately, and
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  Speaker 1: then I don't I don't know about Green Bay or IPFW.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't see them really getting through.
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  Speaker 1: But then because of the reshuffle, you'd basically wind up
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  Speaker 1: with if Wright State wins, which they should, they will
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  Speaker 1: skip this round. Now that's kind of the problem with
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  Speaker 1: Oakland is depending on who wins these first games, Oakland
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  Speaker 1: might wind up having to play this extra game here,
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  Speaker 1: and that's kind of the issue. But they're you know,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they're one of the best teams in the conference.
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  Speaker 1: So even if they do have to do that, I
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  Speaker 1: think that's okay. They'll have to play one extra game,
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  Speaker 1: but there is yeah, I mean, they will have to
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  Speaker 1: play like multiple games because they think all these teams
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  Speaker 1: have to play multiple days in a row, except the
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  Speaker 1: winner of the ten eleven game I think doesn't play
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  Speaker 1: on Tuesday, and then the rest of these games are
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  Speaker 1: on Wednesday.
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  Speaker 2: So it's a very weird structure.
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  Speaker 1: But then from Wednesday on, I think it's every night
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  Speaker 1: the games get played.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, do with all that what you want.
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  Speaker 1: I guess every game is gonna be on ESPN Plus
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  Speaker 1: up until the final games where you get ESPN U,
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  Speaker 1: ESPN two, ESPN whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Out for another week.
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  Speaker 1: I still, you know, me, I still think North Carolina
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  Speaker 1: is an overrated team. Well, yeah, skipping, they're skipping a
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  Speaker 1: day after this opening round game, and then what I
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  Speaker 1: want to know is, like I think the okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so I wanted to know, like where these games are played.
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  Speaker 2: So for the opening round game.
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  Speaker 1: It'll be played at Cleveland State, so they're the home
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  Speaker 1: team in that game, so they actually play at their
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  Speaker 1: home site. Then this big first round, if you want
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  Speaker 1: to call it that, the better seed does host, so.
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  Speaker 2: Those teams are all at home.
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  Speaker 1: And then after that then it becomes neutral neutral locations
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  Speaker 1: after that at Indianapolis.
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  Speaker 2: So that's so that's how it works out there.
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  Speaker 1: And then as far as the game's being in Indianapolis,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I mean, I you, India is an
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  Speaker 1: Indianapolis team, but I don't see them even getting to
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  Speaker 1: play in Indy, so I don't see that happening.
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  Speaker 2: And then you know, I mean, ipf W, I guess
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  Speaker 2: is close geographically, but I don't think that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna help that much as far
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  Speaker 1: as the site is concerned, like helping one team like
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  Speaker 1: massively over another. But yeah, I think Oakland would probably
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  Speaker 1: be the way that I would look as far as
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  Speaker 1: the future in that one. Yes, they are. As far
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  Speaker 1: as what ken Baum has for his ratings, here he
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  Speaker 1: has Robert Morris is actually the best team, although they're
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  Speaker 1: one hundred and forty six in the country, Right State
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  Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty third and then Oakland at one
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  Speaker 1: sixty two, So the odds makers actually are in line
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  Speaker 1: with what he has there. And if you like defense, though,
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  Speaker 1: I mean that's kind of the issue there. Oakland is
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  Speaker 1: not a very good defense. Robert Morris is a good
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  Speaker 1: balance between offensive defense. Northern Kentucky, believe it or not,
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  Speaker 1: actually is as well. Uh so Northern Kentucky. I mean
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  Speaker 1: they could be maybe kind of a sleeper here to
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  Speaker 1: make some noises well, although they're playing Oakland in the.
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  Speaker 2: First round though, so that that is the problem.
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  Speaker 1: So Oakland actually has kind of like a difficult draw
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  Speaker 1: in that first game, but they do get to play
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  Speaker 1: them at home. I think if they get by that,
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  Speaker 1: they should probably get to I think they're probably gonna
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  Speaker 1: get to the championship game, and then I would I
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  Speaker 1: think Robert Morris. I prefer Robert Morris over Right State.
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  Speaker 1: I think I just think that Right State is I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, the experience is not quite there. Robert Morris
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  Speaker 1: did it last year at the very least, so we'll
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  Speaker 1: see what happens, although I know the teams are all different.
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  Speaker 2: Now, Zach, what's up? Thanks for hanging out?
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  Speaker 1: All right? But yeah, those are my thoughts on that.
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  Speaker 1: I think Oakland and then Robert Morris would probably be
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  Speaker 1: the two ways that I would look there before I
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  Speaker 1: would look at Right State. Okay, next conference, we'll talk
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: about I'm trying to find ones that starts. That was
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  Speaker 1: March second. Let's find March third. All right, we'll go
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: to the Patriot League next. As far as the Patriot League,
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: this is a much more us you know, a much
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  Speaker 1: easier structure to understand, though. I don't know why this
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: stupid table is like on top of the bracket. What
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: is going What are we doing here? Man? Wow, they
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: really screwed this up, didn't they? Or maybe I did.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe I just have to zoom out or maybe I
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  Speaker 1: have to shrink my window. I don't know what is
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  Speaker 1: going on with this. Uh yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Hold on, let me see if I maximize it.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: Does that help? No? It doesn't. But actually, these are
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: all the teams though, so you can get the gist
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: of it. Anyway, though there are nine teams in the
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: Patriot League. I'm pretty sure, Army is the worst team.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: So on Tuesday, Bucknell was gonna play Army. The winner
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: of that team gets to play the number one seed Navy.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Oh and then, actually, no, my mistake. I think Lafayette
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: is playing who the hell is the ten seed? Then?
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah, I don't know why they did this.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Oh holy Cross, Holy crap, holy Cross. That's right, So
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: holy Cross is hidden under this table. Horrible, horrible graphics.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: Fuck you, Patriot League. Holy Cross is the ten seed
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: there playing Lafayette on Tuesday.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: So that's what that is.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: So the winner of that game will play the two
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: seed Lee High. So that's how this tournament works. So
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: the eight, the seventh through ten play each other, and
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: then the tournament structure is pretty normal after that, with
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: all the rest of the teams joining in after that. Obviously,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: Navy ran away with this conference. They are the best
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: team in this conference. See if I remember his Yeah, nope,
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: I didn't get that.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: What is it that. It's not PL. Oh no, it
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: is P, I said, pat It's PL. Anyway, Navy is.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: One hundred and thirty six in the country. According to
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Ken Bumman. The next closest team besides them is actually
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: American now at two forty one, and then Colgate at
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: two fifty four, and then pretty much everybody else is
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: just ass so well, actually BU was two fifty.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Nine, So yeah, it's Lehigh.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: I don't think Lehigh is legitimately like the second best
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: team in this conference whatsoever. So I would not be
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: looking at Lehigh in this in this tournament.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: Man, what are we? What? Oh my god?
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Oh, I guess they don't have odds on it yet?
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: What dude? Really? Oh?
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Man?
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Hold on, I wonder if DraftKings has it. I'm gonna
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: see right now, DraftKings has it? Or sorry, FanDuel, let
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: me see college basketball conference, dude, if the conference tournament
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: is out, you would think they would have odds on it.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: They don't. The Patriot League doesn't have odds. I don't
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: know why.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: I'll bring FanDuel into my my other window, but yeah,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: they don't have it. So I don't know, man, or
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: that didn't work. Oh my god, I hate dude, I
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: hate Firefox.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: There we go, all right? There it is. Yeah, so
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: they don't have it either, So I don't know what
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: to tell you about it.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: But as far as the Patriot League, I mean, Navy
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: is the best team in the Patriot League. They're expected
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: to win this conference. Let me bring the bracket back up.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: You know, I think Navy's a bit overrated, though ken
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Bum does have them very very lucky, although they are
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: far and away the best deepmense in this conference though,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: so really it is their conference to lose. It would
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: be kind of a big deal because they have not
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: been in the tournament since nineteen ninety eight, and these
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: service academies usually don't make it that far. Man, But yeah,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: I think they'll make it past the winner of buck
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: now An Army. They do get a bad draw in
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: this tournament, though, because they're facing as I showed you
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Be You and American are both pretty competitive in this conference,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: and in fact, even though American is the five seed,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: they're actually the second best team in this conference.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: And then Colgate is third.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Colgate gets a way easier draw because Lehi is an
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: overrated two seed. I Thinkate is gonna get to the
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: championship game, and I just don't see them. I know
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: they lost to Lehigh both times in the regular season,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: but I just don't really see this side of the
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: bracket being a huge issue at all.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: So I think Colgate will get there.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Navy in their matchup against whoever wins BEU versus American,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: they might get tested.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not gonna say Colgate will definitely get
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: through because their ass their ass as well. But I
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: think American will get by BEU. I mean, Americans just
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: kind of been I don't know. I mean, they haven't
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: been good in the later part of the season and
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: be you got hot.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: But I think American should be able to beat them.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: And by the way, I think these are all I
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: don't know where these games are actually being played, that's
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: the thing. Some of these.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Let me see, it looks like the.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Top seeds actually are are the hosts of these Yes,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: so these games are all played at tournament sites and
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: then the last few rounds.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Get played on CBS Sports for TV.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: The rest I think around the ESPN Plus for the
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: most part, so I get to watch them all with
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: ESPN Plus, which a lot of times I do. I'll
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: at least try to tune into a little bit of
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: each of the games. But yeah, so in this conference,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: there's no neutral sites, so Navy is actually hosting the
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: whole thing as far as far as they go. At
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: least so the higher seed will host every game in
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: this conference tournament, so that is an advantage in Navy.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: We don't have the odds yet.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think, you know, if you
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: want to like shoot for a team that's not gonna
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: be the favorite to win it, I think Colgate would
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: be it because they have a really easy path in
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: this tournament, even though I know they didn't do well
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: against Lehigh, but LEA is just a fast paced team
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: and they're just really not that good in my opinion.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: So but Navy is still the team to beat in
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: this conference. It's just the problem with it is the
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: structure that they have to play.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Bu or American.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: That team whoever wins that game might be a little
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: bit tired because that's gonna be a tough game between
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: those two. So maybe Navy has a good setup there
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: because they're probably gonna have an easier game against buck
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: now slash Army. So yeah, and yeah, I don't really
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: see any of the other teams being able to do
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: a whole lot here. You never know, of course, but
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Colgate I think might be some value in that tournament.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: All right, sun Belt, this is the most insane tournament
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: structure that there is.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: As you can see here. So this whole thing is
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: in Pensacola, by the way, So the whole thing is
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: at a neutral site. I don't know if that really
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: helps any of these teams or not, because I think
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: North Florida is not that close. I think North Florida.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: I might be wrong. You can check me on that,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: but I think North Florida is all the way in Jacksonville.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: And you know, so I don't or No, North Florida
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: is not in this conference right They're in the a Sun.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: What am I saying, which I haven't talked about yet,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: but what am I saying? Yes, so I don't even know,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: like which one of these seeds is closest to Pensacola.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: I don't even know.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: U South Alabama, I guess would be Jeff, where do
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: you see the odds? Why don't I see those? When
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: do they just put them up? I'm looking at it
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: right now when Yeah, they don't have it right now.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know where you're seeing that, but yeah, I
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: mean it might be worth firing on that for Colgate,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: although you know, I kind of still expect Navy to
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: win it.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: But you know, if you're looking for some value.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: I think Colgate is set up, you know, pretty well
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: in that bracket structure there.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Okay, also, let's go to.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: The sun Belt here, So the Sun Belt is actually crazy, dude.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: So you can see here.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: The first couple of games that are between the twelve
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: through fourteen seeds, and every other team gets at least
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: one by, to the point where the one and two.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Seeds get a buy. Through five rounds, they get five bys.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: And then the three and four get four bys, the
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: five and six get three bys, the eight and seven
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: get two bys, and the nine to ten get one by.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: This is an insane tournament structure. And the problem is
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: the one and two seeds might have some rusts, you know,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: because they're not gonna play for a whole bunch of time,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: and they're gonna run into a team that already played
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: and won their game, you know what I mean.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: So that's kind of a problem.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: So the buys are just supposed to help these teams,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: and in a way it does because they don't have
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: to win as many games, so.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: They have fewer chances to get knocked out.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: But a lot of times you see something insane happen
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: in this tournament. Although I think they change the structure recently,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: but still like it is just kind of insane where
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: you might like you just run into a team that
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: has momentum and you're you have to shed the rust
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: and you might be like in a whole you know.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: I don't think that the teams that are playing in
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: the opening rounds are gonna are gonna, you know, make
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: a run in this tournament or anything. Between Louisiana Georgia State,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Old Dominion and Louisiana Monroe, I don't see that happening. Well,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: I think Old Dominion is undervalue, though I don't think
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: they're that bad. And let's see if ken Bum bears
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: that out. Yeah, I mean he has Old Dominion being
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: the best out of those teams significantly so. So I
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: think they're the one team that's playing in the first
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: rounds that actually is decently competitive with the rest of
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: these teams. As I've been saying all year, I think
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Georgia Southern is like the most overrated team in this conference.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: They just play fast, they can't play deepfense. They're they're
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: just not very good in my opinion. Interestingly, Arkansas State
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: is the best Power rated team according to ken Bum
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: and they wound up the seven seed in this conference.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: As I talked about, this was the conference that had
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: seven teams within one game of each other going into
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: the final day, and six teams wind up tied in
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: second place. Troy wound up alone in first place, and
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: all the other teams wound up tied a game behind them.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, the next six teams all did and Arkansas
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: State wound up losing all the tie breakers, which really
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: really sucks because I think they're good. They're a nice
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: balanced team, although they do play ridiculously fast, so that's
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: kind of a problem.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: But that's the thing, man.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: I think Arkansas State could definitely make a run in
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: this tournament.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: They'll enter the tournament two days into it.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: But are they gonna be able to make, you know,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: make a run of five games in a row.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's the problem.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: They're gonna have to win five games in five days
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: to win the tournament, and when you play that fast,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: I don't think you could do it.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: I think you just run out of steam, man. So
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: that really sucks for Arkansas State.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: I think they can make a run because they're the
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: best team in this tournament, but I just don't think
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: they're gonna be able to go all the way, but
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: their side of the bracket is actually pretty easy. Coast
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: of Carolina. I don't believe that they're even really that
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: good at all, so I don't see them doing really
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: much of anything as a three seed. I think they
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: might go down right away. South Alabama is a pretty
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: decent team. Kenbam has these teams in order, Arkansas State,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: then Troy, who is the one seed, as them as
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: the second best team, then Appalachian State, then South Alabama,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: then Marshall, so he has Marshall as the fifth best team,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: although there isn't that much of a disparity between that
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: group of teams. But I think Marshall is a pretty
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: overrated two and Coastal is an overrated three. So Arkansas
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: State it sets up decently for them, but you know,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: I mean South Alabama.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: The thing about South Alabama is they might.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: They're gonna be entering this tournament cold, and if they
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: have to play an Arkansas State team has momentum, they
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: might get knocked knocked out by Arkansas State. Man. But
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: I think whoever wins that game could definitely beat Coastal
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: and probably would be a favorite over Marshall's things. So
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: I think there still might be some value looking at
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Arkansas State or South Alabama and then maybe Hedge and
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: then as far as the top part of the bracket here,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: you know, James Madison maybe a little bit interesting because
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: they started playing better towards the end of the season.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: They're actually better the Coastal even though they're the nine seed.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: I don't think Southern Miss is that good. I don't
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: think Texas State is that good. So you know, James
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Madison could get through a couple of games here. I
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: think I think app State versus Troy is gonna be
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: like I assume app State is gonna win whoever gets
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: through to their game. Because the thing about app State
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: is I'm gonna talk about this more when the game
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: actually happens. App State plays slow. They're one of the
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: only teams in this conference that plays slow, and that's
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: better for like the rust factor, you know what I mean,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: because they won't have played for a while. But I
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: talk about that in football, like a slow defensive team
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: could shed the rust way more easily because they don't
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: rely as much on you know, like finas type of
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: offense and stuff like that, and on rhythm, you know
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: what I mean.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: They're more of a grind out team.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: So I think app State could definitely win and shed
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: the ross pretty easily, and I expect it probably will
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: be app State facing Troy on this side of the bracket,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: and Appstate might be able to beat them. The problem is,
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: I think app State actually did beat them by like
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: twenty points the one time they played them this year.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: But I don't like that because that means app State
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: might not take Troy as seriously and Troy might, you know,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: like get up for the game a little bit more,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You know, if you believe
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: in the geography, Like I said, South Alabama actually is
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: closer to Pensacola, so them and Southern Miss I guess,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: so I don't see Southern Myss doing a whole lot,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: but maybe there's some value with South Alabama there as well.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: But I think there is value in app State even
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: though they did smoke Troy already. I think app State
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: is the best defensive team in this conference. They are.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Ken Bomb has them at one thirty two. South Alabama second.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: I think No Coastal is actually second best, so you know,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Coastal is actually good on defense. It's just their offense
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: is horrendous. They're very in balance, and then Marshall is
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: actually really good on offense as far as this conference
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: is concerned, but their defense is terrible, so they're really
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: in balanced as well. So I'm not really not buying
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: into Marshall a whole lot here. I'm looking at the odds.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Troy is at plus one seventy, Marshall is at plus
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: two to seventy five, but of course that's because they
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: get these buys, you know what I mean. And then
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: app State at plus five point fifty I think is
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: worth a look, so, you know, because they really I
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: think they're gonna win their first game and then they
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: have to beat Troy and then they'll be in the
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: championship game, you know what I mean. Really, it would
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: really be an interesting championship game if they do get
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Arkansas State. Arkansas State by the way eight and a
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: half to one. So even though they're the seventh seed
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: and they have to win five games in five days,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: they still have the fourth best odds to win this conference.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: And then South Alabama's next at eleven to one. I
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: think those three teams are really where the value is.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: App State Arkansas State South Alabama. APP State would only
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: have to win two games, Like I said, they would
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: have to go through Troy. But then on the other
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: side of the bracket, Yeah, I could see Arkansas State
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: still doing it. Man, they made a crazy run in
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: this tournament like two years ago. I want to say,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: as I think the eleven seed, although I think the
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: tournament structure was a little bit different. It might not
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: have been different, I don't know, but I remember they
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: just kept winning and they made a run like all
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: the way to the championship game where I believe that
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: might have been last year. Even I believe they lost
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: to Troy. That might have been last year. I don't know,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: but yeah, I think APP State, Arkansas State South Alabama
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: are the teams that have the most value here. This
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: tournament is usually chaouducks. So I'm kind of expecting that
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Troy doesn't actually win it. We will see, but it'll
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: be really interesting if you get APP State in Arkansas
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: State in the final, because App State's gonna play really
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: slow and Arkansas State's gonna play fast, and they might
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: just tire out too much. An app State might grind
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: them down, you know what I mean? Yeah, And then
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I think that's about it, you know, And as I said,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: I don't trust Georgia Southern.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: So like I think if Old Dominion beats you a Monroe.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Which I think they should, I think they could definitely
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: beat Georgia Southern. I think they'd be the favorite in
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: that game against Georgia Southern. So Old Dominion getting through
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: a couple of games might happen as well there. But
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about that as we get to the
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: you know, as we get to the days where these
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: games actually happen. You're rooting for Marshall. Why I'm not.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want to see mine. I don't
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: want any I don't want the Miami Ohio people to
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: have any fuel behind them with the fact that Miami
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Ohio beat them. Marshall is an ass defense too, so
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: I don't want that to happen at all. I think
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Marshall's gonna get bounced. All right, what else do we
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: have as far as March third Patriot League Sun Belt,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: that's it, all right, March fourth tournaments that start here.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: We have the Ohio Valley up first, I guess because
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: the bracket is out for that. This is gonna be.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: A difficult one to predict.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Man, This is more of a straightforward This is an
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: eighteen tournament, very very straightforward. Where well, it's not totally straightforward,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: I guess, because it's an eighteen tournament with multiple byes
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: in there. So the one and two seeds get two
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: bys and the three and four get one by and
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: then the five through eight play in the opening round
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: on Wednesday. These games are all played at a neutral
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: in Evansville, Indiana, Evansville, by the way, being in the
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: Missouri Valley Conference, so it's not you know, it's not
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: a site of you know, one of the teams in
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: this conference. I think it is played at the University
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: of Evansville, though I think I'm not sure about that,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: but it'll be. Yeah, So it's all neutral site and conference.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: This is gonna be an interesting one. Memory. I think
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: a lot of different teams could make noise in this tournamental,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: and I think it'll mostly be the top four seeds
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: is probably where you're gonna Really it's three out of
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: the top four that I think could actually do it,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: or you're from the area. All right, Uh, fair enough,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: all right. The one thing that sticks out to me
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: is that Morehead State was in the driver's seed. They
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: were the one seed going into yesterday, and they must
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: have lost or something because they're now the two seed.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: I don't buy Morehead State, man, I just don't. They're
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: not that good. I think they're the most overseeded team
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: in this tournament. Ken Bomb has them two hundred and
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: eighty second in the nation. I know this is a
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: bad conference and the best team in it is now
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Tennessee State at two oh seven, but Tennessee Martin two seventeen,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: CMO at two twenty six, Morehead is way down. He's
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: got more Head worse than SIU Edwardsville, worse than Lyndon
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: would So yeah, he has them as like the sixth
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: or seventh best team in this conference. So Morehead State
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: is not the way that I would look. I think
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: they're gonna get bounced U Team Martin. Unfortunately for U
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Team Martin and for Tennessee State, they're gonna have to
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: play each other, and there if U Tam Martin beats well,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: if SIU Edwardsville beats Eastern Illinois and they should, that's
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: not an easy game for U Team Martin either, man.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: So unfortunately, U Team Martin, who was the best team
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: in this conference up until the last couple of games,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Like they lost some of their games late in the season.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Now they have to play an extra game, and they're
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: gonna have to go through probably SIU Edwardsville and Tennessee
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: State if they expect to get through, I don't know
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: if they're gonna be able to do it.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: Man. And then linden Wood and Little Rock over here.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I trust linden Wood because this
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: is a team that hasn't been in Division One for
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: very long. Little Rock I don't think is that good,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: but they've got really competitive and late in the season
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: against some of the good teams.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: In this conference.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: So I think Little Rock, you know, they might be
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: able to get it done in that game.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: But I think Semo.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Semo would be the team that I would that I
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: would go with to win this conference. Man, as far
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: as like future value, like their side of the bracket
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: is just so weak, I don't see them really losing it.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: Lindon would or Little Rock, even though Little Rock did
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: make some noise morehead Like I said, they're a fraud
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: in this conference. So I think Semo is going to
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: be in the championship game. So yeah, I think the
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: value is with them. As far as this tournament, we
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: have Tennessee State at plus two twenty. As far as
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: the odds, you Team Martin at plus three seventy and
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Simo at plus four hundred, a same odds as Morehead
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: by the way at plus four hundred, even though SEMO
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: has to play an extra game. And then I say
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: you Edwardsville's at eleven to one because they have to
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: play another game in addition to that, Yeah, I think
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: CEMO at four to one would be the way I
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: would look for future value in this one man, because
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Tennessee Stay and you Team Martin have to play each other,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: which just sucks for both of those teams kind of
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: although of course the winner of that of that game
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: could definitely win this conference, you know what I mean,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: It'll probably be the winner of that game if assuming
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: that game happens, which I think it probably will, it'll
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: be Tennessee State or U Team art and up against
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: CMO in the championship is what I would imagine happens
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: in this tournament.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: But you never know.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, upsets can happen, like I said, but I
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: think the way the bracket sets up for CMO.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Is just really really advantageous to them.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: So that's how I would look in the Ohio Valley,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: the Big South starts on the same day.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: This is gonna be.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting. Man, this is a really I
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: think this is a two horse race, although you might
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: be able to argue it's a one horse race in
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: the Big South. High Point is clearly the best team
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: in this conference. They are the one seed, Winthrop is
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: the two, and then there's everybody else. Radford probably is
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: the third best team and they wind up getting the three.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: U and C Asheville and Longwood have kind of a
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: history of making some noise in this tournament, but don't
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: know if they're really going to be able to.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: The top nine teams in this conference.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Might this might be? This is the entire conference ye
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: because Gardner Webb is historically bad. They are awful, and
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: they still made the the conference tournament here, so every
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: team in the conference makes the tournament. The eight and
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: nine seeds have to play in the opening round, which
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: is USC Upstate and Gardner Webb. I think USC Upstate
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: is going to be close to a double digit favorite
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: in that game. That's how horrible Gardner Web is, so
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: usc Upstate probably wins that one, but I don't think
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: they're gonna get by high Point. Winthrop does have it
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: a little bit more difficult, but you saw what I did.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: I faded them and gave you Charleston Southern against them
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: the other day, and Charleston Southern beat them. Probably wouldn't
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: happen again. Man, this time Winthrop has something to play for,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: because in that game they really didn't because they were
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: basically locked into the two. Winthrop probably would get them
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: back and win that one, and then this the rest
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: of this bracket might be chaos between Asheville, Longwood, Radford
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: and Presbyterian. Really any of those teams that they could
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: get through there. And then as far as where these
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: games get played, the whole thing I think is played
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: in Johnson City, Tennessee.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: It looks like here, so the whole I think this
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: they used to play.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: I want to say they used to play in like Greensboro,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: North Carolina. I want to say something like that, but
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: now they're playing in Tennessee. Whatever. I don't know if
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: that's a real huge advantage to any of these teams.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: I forget where some of these teams are, but they're
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: mostly in the Carolinas, so yeah, it's all neutral site.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: I don't really see high Point losing it, man, especially
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: because Winthrop is clearly the second best team in this
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: conference as well, and it's really those two teams then
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: everybody else. High Point is in ken Bump's top one hundred.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: They're really really good on offense. Let me say the
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: Winthrop is the best deepfense in the conference though, so
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: it is really probably gonna come down. I think it
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: will come down to high Point and Winthrop in the
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: championship game, and it'll be offense versus defense. Although actually,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: let me say, actually, no, Winthrop is not the best defense.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: High Point actually is my mistake. That's just how bad
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: the defense. I was looking at the offensive ratings. That's
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: just how bad this conference is defensively. Man. The Winthrop
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: is the second best team in the conference in both
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: offense and defense. High Point is the best in both,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: but they're more of a an offensive team.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: Winthrop is still pretty offensive though offensive.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Now, the problem with Winthrop is they have the best
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: player in the conference in Logan Duncombe, and he's hurt
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: right now, so I don't know if he's gonna play
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: in this tournament or not, so that is definitely something
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: to watch for. You know, he's the best player according
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: to Ken Palm in the conference, and I believe he
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: is the top scorer for Winthrop, So if he's out,
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: that's gonna be a huge deal for Winthrop as well.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: This is probably this is a tournament that I don't
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: even know if I would want to even bet on.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: I just don't think there's a whole lot of value
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: anywhere in this tournament. High Points minus won sixty to
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: win it. Winthrop is plus two ninety, and you know,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: Winthrop was really competitive against high Point during the season, so.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: You know, it's just that I just don't love it.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, high Points side of the bracket has set
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: up really nicely for them too, I think.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, that's just the way that it is.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: It. Actually, I'm trying to figure this out right now
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: because there's no way that the yeah this is why
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: why does it say AVL versus eld Oh, this is
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: a Asheville versus Yeah. Yeah, So I don't know, dude,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: why did they draw the bracket this way? It makes
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: no sense because the winner of this is like stupidity
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: some of these conferences. Dude, they need to hire a
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: new art department, because this is a really really straightforward
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: bracket in this conference. It's just that the eight to
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: nine play each other and whoever wins that plays the
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: one seed. But besides that, it's a really really standard
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: eighteen tournament where the winner of the four to five
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: is going to play the winner of the one versus
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: the eight nine, and the two seven winners playing the
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: three six.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Very straightforward, so I don't know why they haven't.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: Set up like this. So, yeah, high Point gets to
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: play USC Upsett or Gardner Web. Clearly they should win that,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: and then they'll play whoever gets through Asheville versus Longwood, which.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: They should win that as well.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: I think it sets up better for them because Winthrop
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: is gonna have to go through either Radford or Presbyterian,
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: and those teams are actually pretty competitive this year. Presbyterian
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: those like, yeah, Radford, actually you would see Asheville, Longwood, Presbyterian,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: and actually, well Charleston Southern is actually ranked higher than
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: all of those teams in ken Bom believe it or not,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: so they're a pretty undervalued team.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: So Winthrop having to play them.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: Right out of the gate, though they did just play
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: them and lose to them. That's actually probably not that
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: great for Winthrop C. I mean, this high point should
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: win this conference, man, but they're not.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Like a huge favor to do so. But we'll see.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'll be kind of disappointed if they don't,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: because I like the best teams to get through.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: But we'll see what happens in that tournament.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: Man. I just don't really see much value betting on
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: any of these other teams in the futures market, you know, Yeah,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: I just don't really see it. So I mean, if
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: you want to get really really crazy, I guess it
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: would be Charleston's Southern at thirty to one. But right
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: out of the gate, they'd have to beat Winthrop for
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: a second straight time, and I just don't really think
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: that's gonna happen.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: But you know, they're not going to be a huge on.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: I don't think they'll well, I don't know, They'll probably
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: be about a nine point underdog in that game, I
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: would guess.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: All right, So that was the Big South.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: The Atlantic Sun I mentioned, but we have not talked
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: about it yet. So let's do the Atlantic Sun. I
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: don't know how many of these other conferences we have here.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: I think there are a few more the Atlantic Sun.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: The top four teams get a buy into the second round,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: and then the rest of the teams play each other
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: in the first round. So it's a twelve team tournament
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: structure here.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna take my.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: Watch off here because it's constricting my wrists. Man, Central
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: Arkansas got the one seed. They got hot at the
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: end of the season. They beat Austin P like a
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: couple of games before the end of the season. I
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: still think Austin p is the best team in the
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: conference though, and they got the two seed. Not really
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: sold on Queens, even though their coach I think still
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: follows me hopefully on Twitter. They're the three seed. They're
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: a really good offense, but they're not good on defense.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: I just don't trust the team like that. And lipscum dude,
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, they're still dangerous in this conference. Like even
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: though they wound up the four seed, they didn't do
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: well in the later part of the season, but they're
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: not a bad team really, And I think the bracketing
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: structure is not very helpful to Central Arkansas here because
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: they might get Bellerman right away. Even though Bellerman, I
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: mean Bellerman. They've beaten Central Arkansas, Austin P and Queens
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: this year.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: I think the only one of the top four teams
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: they didn't beat is Lipscomb. So Bellerman, I mean, they've
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: been kind of giant killers in this conference.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: But they go all offense.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: They're the worst defense, I think in all of Division
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: one according to Kenbam, which is not good. Yeah, that's ridiculous,
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: But their offense is actually quite good. They actually have
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: the best offense in this entire conference, with Queens being second.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: But like I said, those two teams, they just are
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: horrible on defense.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: Both teams are and for some really weirdly.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: Bellerman plays slow, Queens plays fast like you would expect.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: But as far as how these teams rank out, according
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: to Kentbam, He's got Central Arkansas actually is the best
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: team now, then Austin P, then LIPSK than Queen's. So
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: the bracket does not do does not do any favors
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: for Central Arkansas. Man again, because Bellerman has shown the
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: ability to beat all these teams. They have Florida Gulf
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: Coast on their side of the bracket, as well as
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: the five seed and Lipscomb as the four. Lipscomb is
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: pretty dangerous as well, man, and they're gonna run into them.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Gulf Coast, I think, is the next best team in
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: the conference after all those teams that is listed, and
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: then Bellerman, believe it or not, is actually the next
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: best after that. So the bracket is really really dangerous
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: on Central Arkansas's side, and I don't even know if
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: they're gonna get through Lipscomb, who does have kind of
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: the history in this conference, you know, I think they
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: won it two of the last three years, so I
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: think Austin P there is actually a lot of value there,
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: like they might wind up having to get through Stetson.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Stetson is a very high variance team because they just
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: jack up three pointers. But I think it sets up
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: really nicely because Queens is really the most dangerous team
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: on Austin P's side of the bracket, and Queens just
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: can't play defense, man, So Austin P as far as
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: defense is concerned, they're the best defense in the conference actually,
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: and then Lipscomb is second, and then Central Arkansas, So
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: I see probably US getting probably a Central Arkansas Lipscomb
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: game on this side, and then I think Austin P
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: should be in the championship game against the winner of
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: that team. Looking at the odds in this tournament here
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: they are Austin p has the best odds to win it. Actually,
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: even though they're the two seed, that's who I would
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: probably play in.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: The futures market. They're at plus two to h five,
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: so there's still a dog there.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: A Central Arkansas is at plus two to fifty, then
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: Queens at plus four hundred, Lipscomb at plus four to
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: seventy five, and you could see Bellerman is actually they
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: have the eighth best odds to win it, interestingly, and
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Florida Gulf Coast has the fifth best odds to win it.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: Then there's kind of a drop off after that. They're
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: sixteen to one, Bellerman fifty five to one. I think
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: Austin P is the way to play this though, man
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Like the tournament bracket is just really soft on their side.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: And then I don't hate the idea of lips Comb
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: either at plus four seventy five. They're gonna have to
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: get through Central Arkansas though, but they do have kind
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: of you know, they have the experience as a program
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: in the conference at the very least, so I think
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: that's probably where the value is in one of those
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: two teams. But the bracket sets up pretty nicely for Austin.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: P there.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: All right, Summit League is next up here, and then
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: how many do I have left here? I'm gonna talk
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: about the Northeast and the West Coast, and then I
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: think that's it for tonight. All right, so this will
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: be yeah, like an hour long video. Al Right, that's
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: not too bad. All right. The Summit League, Now, this
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: is a pretty straightforward bracket as well. It's basically an
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: eighteen bracket, although it's a nineteen bracket, but the eight
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: and nine play each other. Those two teams are absolutely horrible.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: Oral Roberts and Kansas City. Kansas City is so bad
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: that I think they fired their coach. Maybe that'll spark
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: the team, though, you know, it's one of those situations
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: where you know you might get that fired coach phenomenon there.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: But whoever wins that game, I don't think they're getting
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: by North Dakota State, who is the one seed and
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: is debatably the best team in this conference. The winner
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: of this conference should be either them or Saint Thomas.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: But we'll see and Saint Thomas is a two seed.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: I think they got a really really bad draw because
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: they got to play celt Dakota State and celt Dakota
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: State that team, man, I mean that is a I
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: think they're probably the most underrated team in this conference
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: and they have a lot of history of winning in
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: this conference. Like that is a dangerous team, I think
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: in celt Dakota State. So that doesn't do Saint Thomas
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: any favors there, man. The later rounds of this tournament
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: will be on CBS Sports. The opening rounds are only
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: on the Summit League Network. I try to shout out
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: where the TV is in these conference here. I don't
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: think I did with those last couple though.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: Let me see you real quick.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: For the Sun Belt, those are all ESPN Plus until
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: ESPN two has the final game. For the Atlantic sun
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: that I just talked about, I don't know. I feel
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: like my autism is overtaking me here. Those are all
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: on ESPN Plus until ESPN two has the final. And
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: then for the Big South, let me see, those are
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: all ESPN Plus until the championship ESPN two. I see
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: a pattern there, and then I think I already mentioned
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: the Ohio Valley, right, I think I already talked about that.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know, did I?
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: Those are all Actually no, I didn't.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: Those are all the ESPN plus until the semi finals
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: are ESPNU and then ESPN two has the final. All right, anyway,
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: Summit League, I think again it should be either North
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: Dakota State or Saint Thomas. I would like to see
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Saint Thomas get it for the first time, get into
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: the turn because they've never been, and they've been in
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: transition for a while, and.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: They're really close.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: I think to North Dakota State and Kenbom's rankings, I
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: don't even know where does he have in North Dakota
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: State now, where are they?
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: He might have Sat Thomas.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: Actually he has them better now, But of course he's
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: factoring in the fact that North Dakota State just didn't
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: put in an effort against Saint Thomas. So remember the
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: game where North Dakota State played Saint Thomas for real,
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: North Dakota State one. Although it was at North Dakota State.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: Saint Thomas won at home, but it was a game
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: where North Dakota State I don't think they really put
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: in an effort because they'd already won, you know, the
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: they'd already won the Uh, they've already gotten the one seed,
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: so it didn't matter. But Saint Thomas is the highest
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: ranked team in the conference acord to Kenbomb, North Dakota
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: State is second, and there's a huge drop off to
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: the next team, which by the way, is South Dakota State.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: Like I said, even though the seventh seed, they're the
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: third best team in the conference by ken BOM's rankings,
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: although there is a significant drop off there. And then
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: believe it or not, Denver is the fourth best, and
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: then Omaha, who is the winner of the conference last year,
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: and North Dakota State gets to pretty much avoid all
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: those teams, so the bracket setup is a lot better
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: for them. Like I would be shocked if they didn't
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: get to the championship game. Omaha might pose a little
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: bit of a threat to them, assuming that they get
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: by celt Dakota. But yeah, North Dakota State should get through,
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: whereas Saint Thomas right away, there'll be a favorite all
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: these teams.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: All these games are a neutral on a neutral site.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: By the way, I think these.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: Are always in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. Yeah, that hasn't changed.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: I'm used to that. So Saint Thomas will be a favorite.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: They should get by, but that's not the matchup that
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: I think they wanted. And then they're gonna have to
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: get through the winner of North Dakota and Denver. And
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: like I said, Denver is actually not that bad of
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: a team either. So Saint Thomas really got a bad
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: draw here. They're on a more difficult side of the bracket,
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: which is not great for them. Celt Dakota is the
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: next best team in the conference after Omaha, by the way,
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: and then North Dakota. I told you, even though North
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: Dakota is the three seed, they're like the seventh best
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: team in the conference. That's not good at all. Uh So,
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: you know, I think Denver could definitely beat North Dakota.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: I think there'll be a favorite there. It'll be one
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: of those games where the lower seed is favorite. You know,
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: I'll talk about it when the game happens, but you know,
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: that's Friday, you know. I like to look at that
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: type of thing where you know there's a seed versus
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: odds make or mismatch, you know what I mean. I
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: do like to look for situations like that for maybe
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: betting purposes this. Let's see what else are they gonna
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: say about this? But yeah, like, I think it's a
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: bad draw for Saint Thomas. Man, like they should get
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: through here. I think they should get to the championship game.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: But North Dakota State, I think is probably gonna win
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: because they just have an easier setup on their side.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: Saint Thomas actually has better odds to win it, believe
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: it or not, based on what I just said though,
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: and the fact that their side of the bracket is
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: more difficult. Yeah, I think there might be some value
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: in North Dakota State there. Man. Saint Thomas is plus
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: one thirty five North Dakota State's plus one forty. That
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: seems insane to me based on the draw that North
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: Dakota State got, I think for future purposes, I think
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: I would look towards maybe grabbing North Dakota State there.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: And then Denver has the third best odds at plus
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: eleven hundred, which is really insane, and then Seth Dakota
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: State at plus twelve hundred. Like I said, the oddsmakers
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: know what they're doing, man, So there might be some
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: value in Denver. I don't really think sheelth Dakota State
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: will beat Saint Thomas. But maybe you know Saint Thomas
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: coming off of a difficult game already, maybe Denver they
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: sneak through and maybe they cause some problems. They've already
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: beaten St. Thomas once, although that might mean St. Thomas
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: will know how to deal with them the next time.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: But there might be some value in Denver. Man. So, unfortunately,
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: the way this sets up, even though I like Saint Thomas,
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: I'd like to see them win, I think the better
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: value betting wise in the future market is North Dakota
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: State and Denver. Unfortunately, so that's probably the way that
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: I would be looking there, or if you want to
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: get really crazy South Dakota State, I wouldn't really blame you.
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: For looking that way either. Okay, what else do we have?
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: We have? I think we have two or three left.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: We had the Summit, I already did the sun Belt.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: We have the Northeast. Let's talk about that one next
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: because that's on the fourth. This conference, I don't know, man,
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: this is a bad conference. This is a weird This
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: is the one that I mentioned this morning. So new
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: Haven is in their first year in Division one, in
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: transition so they're not allowed into this tournament at all,
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: so they're not here, even though they would be otherwise.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: We wound up with a very standard eighteen tournament here,
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: and it looks like the NYC network is gonna have
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: all the opening round games, then ESPN Plus has the
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: semi finals, and then ESPN two has the championship, again
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: following that pattern there. Long Island is the best team
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: in this conference. They got the one seed, and they
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: get a really weak eight seed, Chicago State, right out
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: of the gate, so I don't see them losing that game.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: Then it's gonna get weird because Lemoy In the fourth
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: seed and Mercy Hursts the three seed, are both ineligible
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: to make the NCAA tournament. So this is a this
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: is a ridiculous conference right now. Man. Those two teams
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: are in like their second and or third year of eligibility.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: So we get a really, really weird situation where I
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: think you will get effort out of those two teams
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: because they're gonna want to, you know, kind of prove
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: themselves and they're not gonna be able to play after
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: this tournament, so I think they will go all out.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: But it's gonna get really interesting if one of those
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: teams makes like the final or something.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they will.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: I don't think Lemoyne is gonna get by Long Island,
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: but they might. I mean, I think Long Island did
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: kind of struggle with them a couple times this year.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: And I think their geographic rivals too, of the Lemoyne dolphins,
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: because you know, we have dolphins up in the northeast,
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: right Lemoyne. I think actually Lamoyne is in Syracuse, so
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: they're not that close. Long Island is on Long Eye. Yeah,
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: you know those all those dolphins in Syracuse. Although, dude,
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: I'm in Boston, I'm near the coast. We legitimately had
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: dolphins in the water. I saw, dude, I saw one,
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: like while I was commuting one of those days, like
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: last summer, there was a dolphin like in one of
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: the rivers, like off of the Atlantic Ocean. There.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: It's it's total madness. It's insane.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: But anyway, as far as this turn this conference is concerned, yeah,
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: it's insane.
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: A couple of those teams are ineligible.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: As far as ken Bam has this thing going, he
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: definitely is Long Island as the best team, even though
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: they're not a very good team. Uh, they're decent defensively,
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: even though they also play pretty fast tempo and they're
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: a very lucky team, but they are the best defense
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: in the conference. As far as the overall ratings are concerned,
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: Long Island is the best team. Then there is a
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: pretty big drop off to the next best team, which is.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: Mercyhurst.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: It looks like then Lemoyne, so very interesting one of
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: those teams could actually make it, and then Central Connecticut
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: is the fourth best team after that, and then you know,
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: unfortunately for New avern they were like the sixth best
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: team according to Kenbom and they're ineligible for even this tournament.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: By the way, all these games are being played on
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: campus site, so the better seed hosts these games. So
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: I do see Long Island like very likely gets through
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: the first game. They might have to play Lemoyne. Though
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: Stonehill is a good defensive team, but they can't score.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: So if Lemoyne gets through that one, it could be interesting.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: It could be kind of an issue for Long Island
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: here Man and the Mercy Hurst. It's gonna be really
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: interesting if Mercyhurst makes the championship.
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: Game because they're ineligible.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: You know what, I mean that would set up maybe
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: some betting opportunities to bet on them, because at that point,
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: I think the team that has made it would actually
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: get the tournament bid without having to win the championship.
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: I think that's how it works, unless they give it
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: to the regular season winner, which would be Long Island,
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: and it might wind up being Long Island anyway getting there.
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: But we'll see.
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: I thinks this is gonna be a chaotic tournament, man
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: where some upsets could happen. Last year's Central Connecticut lost
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: in the finals, a big, big favorite against Saint Francis,
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: who I think is in this conference. But I guess
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: they were bad. They were so bad they didn't even
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: make the conference tournament. Yeah, one team gets left out.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: I guess it was Saint Francis. That's insane that they
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: want to worst the Chicago State. Chicago State's bad, dude.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: All right, let's see what we have for I don't
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: know why the Patriot League doesn't have odds up yet,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: because the rest of these conferences looking they do.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: Wait a minute, what.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: I guess this one is actually not on DraftKings for
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: some reason. Yeah, but it is on fanduels, So I'm
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: gonna look here, I guess very very good. Fandel doesn't
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: have the Patriot League though, but they do have the
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: Northeast Conference. They have Long Island as a favor to
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: win it at minus one seventy. They don't even have
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: a logo for Mercyhurst and Lemoyne yet, no Jersey colors yet.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: Mercy Hearst has the second best odds at plus six hundred,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: and you know what, that's probably where the value is
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: to be honest. And then Central Connecticut and Lemoyne are
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: both at plus six fifty. Long Island should win. They
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: are easily the best team in this tournament. But you
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: know what I said, Mercyhurst, if they get to the
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: championship game, they're ineligible to make the tournament.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: So if it's Mercyhurst against Long Island, and Long Island.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: Doesn't need to win that game because they're gonna be
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: awarded the NCAA tournament bit anyway, Mercy Hearst would be
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: in a really really decent position to potentially win that game.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: So I think that's probably where I would go in
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: the future market. Is Mercy Hurst at plus six hundred,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: if that makes sense, because if they make the championship
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: game then, and I know they have to get by
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: Central Connecticut. I wish wouldn't be that easy, but Long
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: Island has to get by Lemoyne. It would be really
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: insane if Mercyhurst and La Moyne are in the final
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: and neither team is allowed into the conference into the
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: NCAA Tournament. I mean, that would be absolute madness. That's
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: March madness, man, if that happened. I think in that scenario,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: Long Isle would be award of that too, but Mercyhurst
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: would actually probably be a slight favorite in that game.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I think they're based on a lot of
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: these scenarios. It looks pretty beneficial to look towards Mercy
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: Hearst in the future market there. So that's how I
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: would look at that conference. And then what else do
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: we have here? Although they will be on the road
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: for those games though, And then let's see a lot
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: of these ones haven't finished yet. West Coast, I think
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: is the last one I'm gonna talk about here.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: Let me see.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: Talking about the Northeast, talking about the Patriot. Oh, I
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: haven't talked about the talk about the Eye, Well, I
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: don't know. I guess I'll talk about the IVY even
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: though that doesn't start until March fourteenth. So I was
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: gonna do these in chronological word, but the IVY is
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: already settled, so I guess I could talk about it now.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: Come on, man, I want to just make sure I
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: hit them all. Ohio Valley whatever, that one was, Big
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: South a Sun Summit, yep, I hit them all. Sun
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: sun Belt Horizon, yep, I got them all. Northeast, all right,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: I got them all. West Coast is the last one.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: And this conference tournament is kind of insane. I was like,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: where's the bracket? This conference tournament is? Uh, that's the
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: women's Wait one of them is the one of these
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: is the women's.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this one is the women's.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, Loyal and Mary maud, they're not the
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: one seed in other women's they are, though men's is here.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: So this is like the Sun Belt memory you could have.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: You could have a team playing potentially in this case,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: you could have a team playing a sixth game, whereas,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: by the way, in the Sun Belt, you could have
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: a situation where you have a team playing a seventh
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: game in seven nights, potentially against the team a team
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: playing in only their second game and two nights, which
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: is insane, But in this conference tournament, you could have
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: a team playing a sixth game in sixth nights against
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: the team playing, you know, the second game and two nights.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: Don't see that happening here though, because we know, really
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: this is a three team race. Here. It's Gonzaga as
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: the one seed. Saint Mary's did just beat them at
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: home each they split.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: The season series.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: What else is new with the home team winning each game.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: Saint Mary's the two seed. Santa Clara has been really
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: good this year as well. They're the three seed, so
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: one of those teams very very likely to win.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: I think the next best team in this conference.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: Is probably San Francisco, even though they're the five seed.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: I think they might wind up getting through to face
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: Gonzaga here. I don't really see many of these other
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: teams doing a whole lot. Pacific as the sixth seed,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: they actually weren't that bad this year either. I don't
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: know how Oregon State got the four because I don't
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: think they're that good. Seattle was actually okay as the
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: seven as well, So the tournament setup is very very
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: advantageous to Gonzaga.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: I think they're gonna have one pretty easy game.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: Get to the final, and then they'll be up against
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: still probably either Saint Mary's or Santa Clara. There, we'll
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: see what happens, and if it's Gonzaga Saint Mary's, of
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: course it'll be Gonzaga, you know, basically their offense versus
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: Saint Mary's defense. Gonzaga does play faster than Saint Mary's typically,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: in Saint Mary's will try to slow it down to
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: be that typical type of matchup there. As far as
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: the odds are concerned, in this conference, Gonzaga is minus
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: two to end to win it. Like, that's how weak
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: their side of the bracket is and how much better
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: they are than the rest of this conference. Saint Mary's
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: is plus two thirty, Santa Clara's plus six point fifty.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: I don't really see a ton of value there, you
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: know what I mean. San Francisco's at twelve to one
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: there and then Oregon State seventeen to one, so, like
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: I said, in Seattle eighteen to one, Pacific twenty five
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: to one, So, like I said, Oregon State's a bit
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: of an overrated team. I don't know how, I honestly
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: don't know how they got the four seed but Gonzaga,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: they're twelfth in the country according to ken Baum, and
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: you know they're they're good. They're the best team in
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  Speaker 1: the conference. Saint Mary's only ten ranking spots behind them, though,
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  Speaker 1: and then Santa Clara is fifteen behind that, So you know,
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  Speaker 1: of course, if it's Gonzaga Saint Mary's, anything could happen.
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  Speaker 1: But I think the reason for the odds being the
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  Speaker 1: way they are though, is because again, because the setup
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  Speaker 1: for Gonzaga is just way easy on their side. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Oregon State's nowhere close to we have, believe it or not. Actually, Pacific,
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  Speaker 1: according to Kenbaum, is the third best team, then Seattle,
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  Speaker 1: then San Francisco, then Washington State, then Loyal and Mary Mount,
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  Speaker 1: then Oregon States, Oregon State's whatever, that was like the
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: sixth best team. That's insane, dude, no seventh best team.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know how Oregon State's there, man. So
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  Speaker 1: I do think San Francisco probably does get through to
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  Speaker 1: face Gonzaga, but Gonzaga should dispatch of them pretty easily,
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  Speaker 1: I would imagine that. But that's again, that's another reason
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  Speaker 1: why Saint Mary's and Santa Clara don't have really great
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  Speaker 1: odds here, because look, at their side of the bracket.
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  Speaker 1: It has Loyal and Mary Mount, Seattle and Pacific all
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  Speaker 1: on it. Uh, so that's gonna be crazy. One of
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: those teams which every team makes it through could actually
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: potentially battle Santa Clara there and then whoever gets through
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  Speaker 1: that those places stough. Santa Clara is significantly better than
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: those teams still, so I still see it probably playing
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  Speaker 1: out as planned.
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  Speaker 2: Santa Clara probably.
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  Speaker 1: Still gets the win there. Probably Saint Mary's then beats them,
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  Speaker 1: but you never know, because Santa Clara will have a
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: game under their belts. They have that advantage at least,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: and Saint Mary's blew them out the last time they
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: played them, so Santa Clara might be able to flip
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: the script there. And this will be on a neutral
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: site this time Saint Mary's versus Santa Clara. They split
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: the season series one and one as well, with the
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: home team winning each game. This whole tournament is on
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: a neutral by the way, this is in Las Vegas
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  Speaker 1: at the Orleans so you can go bet on the
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: tournament and watch it live. And by the way, I
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: think these next two weeks are a couple of the
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: best weeks to be in Vegas man during conference tournament week,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: especially actually this particular week, the small conferences, because some
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: of them are in Las Vegas, Like the West Coast
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: Conference Tournament is in Vegas, the Mountain West is in Vegas.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: I think the PAC twelve used to be but they're
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: gone now, so that's that is Unford. They're coming back,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: they're reforming, but you know, you used to have a
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: bunch of conferences.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: The Whack is also in.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: Vegas, but I think the Whack is probably gonna not
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: exist for much longer.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: But you get a lot of action in Vegas, man.
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  Speaker 1: I think I've never been there during that week of
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: the season, but I think it's super fun.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: Like a lot of the people will come for the first.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: It gets like too touristy and too crowded during the
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: actual first week of March madness, you know what I mean.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: Everybody wants to be in Vegas for the first week
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: under the actual tournament. But I think conference tournament is
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: actually more fun, probably although I haven't done it, but
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: that is what I would imagine because they're like, you know,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: the tourists don't really do that, you know what I mean.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: So if you're gonna go to Vegas. I think it
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: might like going this week or next week would would
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: actually be possibly better and more fun, and there won't
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: be as there won't be lines that are as crazy
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: at the casinos. You might be able to get seats
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: at the casinos in this sports books, you know, watch
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: the games or whatever. Yeah, those are my thoughts. Man.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: I don't think I would play anything in the future
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: market in this West Coast conference at all. I'm not
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: giving out any of these official plays, but you know,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: I think there is some value to be had in
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: some of these conference tournaments, the more chaotic ones. Maybe
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: not so much this tournament, which looks like it's gonna
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: plan out, it's gonna play out pretty much as planned,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: I think, but we'll see maybe not. And you know,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: the other thing is once you start getting to conferences
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: like this, there is that extra motivating factor which is
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: gonna come into play more in the big conferences where
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: it's you're gonna have teams that need to win those
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: tournaments to get into the tournament at all, versus teams
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: that are already in the tournament and they don't want
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: to over exert themselves, you know, over extend themselves, because
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: why would you right, if you're already basically locked into
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: your seed in the NCAA tournament. So that's why you
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: see a lot of these better teams drop out of
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: the conference tournaments because it's just not really as important
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: to a lot of them, you know what I mean.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: And in this conference, I don't know if we're gonna
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: get any of that. Like Gonzaga is clearly gonna be
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: in in the tournament in some capacity, you know, so
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: you might see a little bit of that, like maybe
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: they just won't have quite as much of a reason
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: to win that last game, but they don't have to
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: make a run in the tournament though, they only have
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: to win two games. So I mean, Gonzaga I think,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: does wind up winning this conference more often than they don't, So,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: you know, playing two games not really that difficult anyway,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: So it might not come into play too much here,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: but you might see whoever their opponent is might have
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: a little bit more motivation there because Saint Mary's and
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: especially Santa Clara are not guaranteed a tournament spot right now.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: They're more bubble teams, so you might see them having
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a motivational edge against Gonzaga in
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: that final. If that's how it plays out, all right, man,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: that's uh yeah, that's gonna do it. Those those are
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: the early conference tournaments. I'll probably do another one of
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: these on like Wednesday. Oh wait, I didn't do the IVY.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: Let me do the IVY real quick. Do we have
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: odds on the IVY? We do not. I'm gonna bring
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: up all the tabs I just closed. Hold on, no,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: where's Fandel here it is? Do we have IVY?
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: We don't. I'll wait.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: I'll wait on doing the IVY, man, because it doesn't
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: start for a while. Although I can kind of probably
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: tell you what the bracket looks like right now. Let
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: me see IVY. It's a four team league in the IVY.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: I'm surprised that they already finished, though, but they have.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: Let me see here.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: They have. Yale got the one seed, Harvard got the two,
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: that's what we thought, Penn has the three, and then
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: Cornell got the four. Cornell I think is better than Penn, though.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: Actually I'm not showing this. Hang on, so I'm just
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: showing you the bracket right now. Yale did just lose
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: to Cornell. But these are all on a neutral site now,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: or they're going to be in Ithaca, New York, and
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know what TV is gonna have them. We
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: see ESPN Plus for the semifinals, it looks like, oh
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: no ESPNU for the men's excuse me, and then an
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: ESPN News I guess, and then ESPN two has the final. Anyway,
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: I'm not really not paying attention to the women's over here.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: We don't even know what seeds they are yet, I
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: guess with the top four have been determined, I don't
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: know anyway. Yale is the best team for the men's here.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: I think they should get it done near Cornell did
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: just beat them. But actually, what's really ridiculous is that
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: this is a home If this is in Ithaca, this
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: is basically a home game though for Cornell, So why
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: does why does Yale get.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: Fucking screwed like that? Dude? Because Cornell is in Ithaca?
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: So why does Cornell.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: Get to host the fucking tournament? That seems like some
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: bullshit to me. Man, I don't like that at all, Like,
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: why would the conference even want that? Because that might
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: hurt Yale and you might wind up knocking out your
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: best team. I don't know about that. Harvard. I think
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: will absolutely be Penn. Pen is not that good. So well,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: you know what, let me bring up ken Bum. We'll
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: talk about the IVY now. Though I don't know what
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: the odds are yet. Yale's the top one hundred team
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: in the country. According to kem Bam, he's got Harvard
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: the second best team in the conference, then Cornell, then Penn,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: but Pen is not that far behind. Actually, I don't know.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: I just Penn just they just don't seem like they're
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: gonna be able to do it. Cornell is a massively
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: imbalanced team though, man, Cornell, they're they're all offense, no defense.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: Penn and Harvard are a bit more balanced. I think
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: Harvard should get by Pen there, although I guess we'll
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: see because they're actually not that much different from each other.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: According to Kembom.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: That's a lot closer than I thought it would be, though,
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: and then.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: Yale should be Cornell.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: But the fact that it's in Ithaca is kind of ridiculous. Man.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: So you know, when the odds for this come out,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say that Harvard you might want to
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: look their way, because I was gonna say Penn's overrated
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: and Harvard should get by them. But now I'm thinking
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: that maybe maybe there's value in playing Cornell because they're
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: playing at fucking home. I don't know, man, I will
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: see what the odds look like when they come out,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: but that's.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: Gonna be weird, very very weird.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be kind of a shame if
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: Yale doesn't get into the NCAA tournament, because they're clearly
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: the best team in the IVY, even though they have
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: struggled against some of those other teams. They only they
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: beat Harvard one out of two times and barely got
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: by them. I think the home team won each matchup,
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: I think. And then they lost to Coronell the other night,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: which I did say. I liked Cornell to cover in
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: that one. But it's it's gonna be kind of insane, man,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: where Like Yale's probably only gonna be They were like
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: a four point favored in that game at Cornell, and
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: this game is basically at Cornell, so they're probably gonna
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: be about a four point favorite in this game too,
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: which is really ridiculous. We'll see what happens, man, It's
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: March madness. Those are my thoughts on the conference tournaments
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: that have the brackets already decided for them. It starts
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: tomorrow man with the Horizon, so we'll see. I'll be
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: back tomorrow morning with the normal show, and I will
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: get mad about tonight. I don't know how many games
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: I have to break down on that show tomorrow, we'll see.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: I might do it early because I don't know when
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: my appointment with the bank that I have to go
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: to is, But we'll see. That's gonna do it for now.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: I'll be back. Thanks guys for hanging out. Peace,