Latest / Cuff’s Basement / Ready or Not 2 part 2
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- 0:01Speaker 1: I want to apologize to anyone who was hurt by
- 0:04Speaker 1: the situation with Julia recently. I genuinely regret that things
- 0:10Speaker 1: have reached this point, and I take responsibility for the
- 0:15Speaker 1: fact I could have possibly handled things differently. Maybe. That
- 0:19Speaker 1: being said, I cannot apologize for things I did not do.
- 0:23Speaker 1: Julia has made serious allegations, and the way she has
- 0:27Speaker 1: presented them has created a picture I do not believe
- 0:29Speaker 1: is fair or complete. I'm sorry that she feels the
- 0:32Speaker 1: way she does, and I'm sorry that anyone has been
- 0:35Speaker 1: caught in the middle of this, but I will not
- 0:37Speaker 1: accept responsibility for someone else's version of events simply because
- 0:42Speaker 1: it has been repeated loudly enough. I hope people will
- 0:46Speaker 1: eventually understand the full story. Thank you.
- 0:56Speaker 2: Responsibility, and then completely turn it the other way again.
- 1:00Speaker 2: It was switching the dial back and forth 15 times. Useless.
- 1:03Speaker 1: I mean, we hired a serious... We hired Prince Andrew's
- 1:05Speaker 1: PR team. That's serious stuff.
- 1:08Speaker 3: You know that?
- 1:18Speaker 1: Welcome back to Buffs Casement. We are here with Craig.
- 1:28Speaker 1: My co-host and our special guest for this episode, only Mr.
- 1:32Speaker 1: Ryan McDonald.
- 1:33Speaker 2: Hey everyone, great to be here.
- 1:35Speaker 1: And we are talking about Brother Bear. Yep. The Disney
- 1:42Speaker 1: film from....
- 1:45Speaker 2: From 2002?
- 1:45Speaker 4: Just guessing.
- 1:48Speaker 2: 2003.
- 1:48Speaker 3: Damn. So close.
- 1:57Speaker 1: And Ryan really appreciated that.
- 1:59Speaker 2: Where the fuck did that come from?
- 2:01Speaker 1: I have no idea. I have no idea where that
- 2:05Speaker 1: came from. It's starring... We have to do it now.
- 2:09Speaker 1: It's starring Joaquin Phoenix. Yeah. I'm a bear. Rick Moranis,
- 2:14Speaker 1: Dave Thomas.
- 2:15Speaker 2: That was literally in the trailer.
- 2:16Speaker 1: I'm a bear. D.V. Sweeney, Michael Clarke Duncan. Oh, sorry.
- 2:22Speaker 1: I read the wrong notes. We are continuing Ready or
- 2:24Speaker 1: Not 2. I don't know where that was from.
- 2:29Speaker 2: The ether, Ryan.
- 2:30Speaker 1: That's unreal.
- 2:30Speaker 2: I just thought about that movie.
- 2:34Speaker 1: I just, in my brain, I went, think of the
- 2:35Speaker 1: most random movie possible, think of the most random movie possible,
- 2:38Speaker 1: and I came up with that.
- 2:39Speaker 2: I cannot think of it since seeing the commercial on
- 2:42Speaker 2: TV when it came out.
- 2:45Speaker 1: In 2003. 23 years ago. Oh, my God. That's in
- 2:48Speaker 1: season 27 of Cuff's Basement.
- 2:50Speaker 2: And we're covering Into the Blue with Paul Walker and
- 2:53Speaker 2: Jessica Alba.
- 2:54Speaker 1: Oh, that would be way more normal. Wasn't there like
- 2:56Speaker 1: an Into the Blue 2 with Kate Bosworth or something?
- 2:59Speaker 1: That was Blue Crush. That was her big break. She
- 3:04Speaker 1: was very, very hot.
- 3:07Speaker 2: Josh Brolin was the villain.
- 3:11Speaker 1: I'm not all about being woke. I understand wokeness can
- 3:16Speaker 1: be frustrating. But one of the worst movies I ever
- 3:19Speaker 1: saw was 21. And the studio was literally like, this
- 3:24Speaker 1: is based on a book that's only about Asian people.
- 3:28Speaker 1: But let's make them all white. Like, can you understand
- 3:31Speaker 1: why that's offensive? I can understand why that's offensive.
- 3:34Speaker 2: Sure.
- 3:35Speaker 1: That's pretty fucked up. Yeah. That movie was god awful.
- 3:38Speaker 2: Did you read the book?
- 3:39Speaker 1: No.
- 3:40Speaker 2: So what's crazy is, the movie's considered bad. I read
- 3:43Speaker 2: the book's called Bringing Down the House.
- 3:45Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 3:45Speaker 2: Because of the Queen Latifah and Steve Martin movie, they
- 3:49Speaker 2: couldn't call it that. Yes. Yes. So the book is
- 3:51Speaker 2: actually excellent.
- 3:52Speaker 1: Thank you, God.
- 3:53Speaker 2: The book is great. The guy who wrote that book
- 3:56Speaker 2: is named Ben Meserec, who wrote The Accidental Billionaires, which
- 3:59Speaker 2: The Social Network is based on.
- 4:01Speaker 1: Yes.
- 4:02Speaker 2: That book is supposed to be terrible.
- 4:04Speaker 4: Oh.
- 4:05Speaker 2: And then The Social Network is this incredibly respected movie.
- 4:08Speaker 1: It's bizarre. Interesting. Okay.
- 4:11Speaker 2: It's like The Lost World meets Brother Bear.
- 4:15Speaker 1: Yes. Well, so, where we left off... is the leader
- 4:21Speaker 1: of the Chinese family, the matriarch, goes to Grace and
- 4:26Speaker 1: offers Grace a deal. And Craig, do you want to
- 4:32Speaker 1: explain this deal?
- 4:33Speaker 4: Yeah, the deal is, she says, I've had my lawyers
- 4:38Speaker 4: scrub the bylaws, and if you marry my son, we
- 4:44Speaker 4: get the high seat in the council, you get to live,
- 4:48Speaker 4: essentially everything's good. Right. She even says, like, hey, you
- 4:54Speaker 4: don't have to actually be married to him. Just like
- 4:56Speaker 4: it's kind of like a name only. You go do
- 4:59Speaker 4: what you want. He goes and does what he wants.
- 5:02Speaker 4: We get all the power. All's good, right? Win-win.
- 5:05Speaker 1: And she also says he's not a monster. Like, he's
- 5:08Speaker 1: an idiot, but he's fat, he's lazy, he's going to
- 5:11Speaker 1: play video games all the time. And yeah, maybe you'll
- 5:14Speaker 1: have to sleep with him or something, but he's not
- 5:16Speaker 1: a monster. Correct.
- 5:17Speaker 2: Correct. But he will become one. Right?
- 5:22Speaker 1: Well, more importantly, Grace asks, but will they have to
- 5:26Speaker 1: do this? Like, hide and seek? And, like, hunt down
- 5:29Speaker 1: and kill future family members, maybe? And she's like, well, yes.
- 5:33Speaker 1: We will have to do that.
- 5:34Speaker 2: The cycle won't end. Yeah.
- 5:36Speaker 4: Yeah, you are going to have to essentially sell your
- 5:39Speaker 4: soul here to.
- 5:41Speaker 2: Survive for a minute.
- 5:42Speaker 4: To survive with this, yeah. But you live, is the big,
- 5:46Speaker 4: you know, the big.
- 5:48Speaker 1: We win the game, you live.
- 5:51Speaker 2: But her being a conscious person is like, are you
- 5:54Speaker 2: living though? This is going to be in the back
- 5:56Speaker 2: of your head forever.
- 5:58Speaker 1: And then Nestor Carbonell, the leader of the Latino family,
- 6:03Speaker 1: comes in and tries to kill Grace. And then what happens, Ryan?
- 6:10Speaker 2: He is killed.
- 6:11Speaker 1: How is he killed, Craig?
- 6:12Speaker 4: He is killed because Grace takes the Chinese woman's arm,
- 6:18Speaker 4: who's holding the sword and whips it around and stabs Nestor,
- 6:25Speaker 4: who's the leader of the Latino family.
- 6:28Speaker 2: Did he only speak Spanish the entire movie?
- 6:30Speaker 1: No, he spoke English. He spoke Spanglish.
- 6:34Speaker 2: Okay.
- 6:35Speaker 1: And so he dies by the hand of the leader
- 6:39Speaker 1: of the Chinese family. So she's like, even though Grace
- 6:42Speaker 1: grabbed my arm, does this count? And then she... Spontaneously
- 6:48Speaker 1: combusts and dies. And then it cuts back to the
- 6:51Speaker 1: viewing room where everybody's watching how their family performs. And that, like,
- 6:55Speaker 1: the fat Chinese kid is just playing video games, not
- 6:58Speaker 1: paying attention. And he's like, what is, why is everybody.
- 7:02Speaker 4: Elijah Wood is ducking behind the podium. The skip, the
- 7:07Speaker 4: Danforth brother is, like, hiding behind the server. Love this
- 7:13Speaker 4: little scene. Everyone knows what's coming except for him.
- 7:16Speaker 1: He's playing Switch, and he's like, why is everybody staring
- 7:18Speaker 1: at me? And then he explodes. So they're done. They're dead.
- 7:25Speaker 1: And Grace's sister, Faith, says, I'm not used to people
- 7:29Speaker 1: combusting all over me. And Grace says, no, it's always surprising.
- 7:33Speaker 1: It doesn't get old. They discuss that they are, like,
- 7:41Speaker 1: they're history with each other. Craig, do you remember, like,
- 7:43Speaker 1: the abandonment?
- 7:45Speaker 4: Yeah, I wrote down they have this powwow about their history.
- 7:48Speaker 4: Grace leaves when she's 18. The sister was 15 at
- 7:52Speaker 4: the time. You know, just a no-win situation for them
- 7:56Speaker 4: and kind of starts hashing it out about, like, why
- 7:59Speaker 4: did you leave and I had to leave? And you
- 8:01Speaker 4: start to understand a little bit about their history.
- 8:04Speaker 1: I really like this conversation. So Faith says, I lied.
- 8:08Speaker 1: I'm not a social media manager.
- 8:09Speaker 4: I'm a hostess.
- 8:11Speaker 1: Grace says, I outrank you because I'm a waitress. And then...
- 8:14Speaker 1: Faith argues hostesses are prettier than waitresses, and then that's
- 8:19Speaker 1: why they are put in the front of the house.
- 8:21Speaker 1: Good point. But, however, obviously Samara Weaving's hotter than her.
- 8:25Speaker 1: And then Grace says, yeah, but you don't get tips,
- 8:27Speaker 1: and I literally get tips for being pretty.
- 8:29Speaker 4: I like the line where they both accuse each other
- 8:36Speaker 4: of trying to go after Rich Dick.
- 8:39Speaker 1: Yes.
- 8:40Speaker 4: That was very funny.
- 8:41Speaker 1: I mean, don't all beautiful women do that?
- 8:43Speaker 4: I mean, probably.
- 8:47Speaker 1: Yeah. So, my next note is they get the drop
- 8:52Speaker 1: on the twins.
- 8:53Speaker 2: Yes.
- 8:54Speaker 1: Do you want to talk about that, Craig?
- 8:55Speaker 4: Yeah, so after the attack where the guy gets through
- 9:01Speaker 4: the sanitizer, they get his phone, they call 911, but
- 9:04Speaker 4: you find out that the Danforth twins... Ursula and Titus,
- 9:09Speaker 4: who are Sharon and Cheryl Geller, and, and the brother, um,
- 9:12Speaker 4: they intercepted the phones, right, so they know, um, so they,
- 9:17Speaker 4: they call, and they're like, hey, go meet us by
- 9:19Speaker 4: the front gate, so the twins are sitting there waiting
- 9:21Speaker 4: by the front gate, but you find out that Grace
- 9:23Speaker 4: and Faith realize, hey, this is a setup, and so
- 9:26Speaker 4: they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're right up by the gate,
- 9:28Speaker 4: and so the, the twins walk out by the gate,
- 9:29Speaker 4: and they get the drop on them, um, And so
- 9:33Speaker 4: they are able to subdue them, kind of, like, get
- 9:35Speaker 4: their weapons, and they're now holding them hostage. And my
- 9:40Speaker 4: note here is, like, if that's me, like, I'm not
- 9:44Speaker 4: trying to negotiate with those two. I'm just, I'm taking
- 9:46Speaker 4: them out. But in the movie, they try to negotiate.
- 9:49Speaker 4: They're like, we want to escape. Release the gates. Unlock
- 9:53Speaker 4: the gates.
- 9:53Speaker 2: Let me out.
- 9:55Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't, yeah, I agree.
- 9:57Speaker 4: Um.
- 10:00Speaker 1: SMG sells out her brother.
- 10:04Speaker 2: And.
- 10:04Speaker 4: Does she?
- 10:06Speaker 1: I think she does. Yeah.
- 10:08Speaker 4: So, she says... Yeah, because right again, they steal the weapons.
- 10:12Speaker 4: And they're like, unlock the gates or I'm going to
- 10:14Speaker 4: shoot your brother. And Sarah Michelle Gellar Ursula is like,
- 10:17Speaker 4: go ahead.
- 10:18Speaker 1: And.
- 10:20Speaker 4: you know, after this kind of confrontation, the brother confronts Ursuline.
- 10:24Speaker 4: He's like, hey, what was that all about? And she's like,
- 10:27Speaker 4: I was trying to delay. I was trying to stall
- 10:30Speaker 4: until we can kind of get the upper hand. Like,
- 10:32Speaker 4: I didn't actually mean for them to kill you. So,
- 10:36Speaker 4: is it that she sold him out? Or was she
- 10:39Speaker 4: really trying this tactic? I guess we don't really know.
- 10:42Speaker 2: She sold him out.
- 10:43Speaker 4: Okay.
- 10:44Speaker 1: That's my opinion. Because there's a discussion repeatedly, like, Like
- 10:49Speaker 1: Sarah Michelle Gellar says at some point, maybe we haven't
- 10:51Speaker 1: gotten there yet, but whatever. She was like, you know,
- 10:53Speaker 1: dad wanted me to take over the family business. And
- 10:56Speaker 1: then Titus says, he told me the same thing. And
- 10:58Speaker 1: Sarah Michelle Gellar laughs and goes, no, he didn't. And like,
- 11:01Speaker 1: everybody knows that, that he's the loser fuck up and
- 11:04Speaker 1: she's the capable one. So the, I wrote in a
- 11:12Speaker 1: fight with Samara Weaving, Sarah Michelle Gellar would win because
- 11:15Speaker 1: she's the slayer. Um, but in this movie, it's sort of.
- 11:21Speaker 4: She does get a stake through Grace's shoulder.
- 11:24Speaker 1: Yes.
- 11:24Speaker 4: And I wrote down guttural scream number one. Like, Samara
- 11:27Speaker 4: Weaving can just do this amazing little guttural scream, and
- 11:30Speaker 4: she did it many times in the first one. She
- 11:31Speaker 4: brings it back, and this is the first time we
- 11:33Speaker 4: kind of hear it.
- 11:34Speaker 1: Craig's also heard that Samara Weaving guttural scream in his
- 11:38Speaker 1: personal life, he told me. That'd be amazing if Craig
- 11:41Speaker 1: told me, like, you know, like, I used to hook
- 11:44Speaker 1: up with her. It's like, no? In Australia? Yeah.
- 11:47Speaker 4: Hey, this is supposed to be off the pod, not
- 11:49Speaker 4: supposed to be private.
- 11:50Speaker 1: Tim's like, can she be in the podcast? She sure should. Then,
- 11:56Speaker 1: so they sort of temporarily defeat the twins. They don't
- 12:00Speaker 1: kill them, but they defeat them. And then, as the
- 12:02Speaker 1: sisters are arguing, this is when the ex-fiance comes.
- 12:06Speaker 4: Out, right? Yes, because the head of the Latino family
- 12:12Speaker 4: is dead. The ex-fiance is now the new eldest member
- 12:17Speaker 4: of the family.
- 12:18Speaker 1: She's the oldest daughter.
- 12:19Speaker 4: She's out, and yeah, she's now the new hunter for
- 12:21Speaker 4: that family.
- 12:23Speaker 1: So Grace looks over, and she has literally a bazooka,
- 12:26Speaker 1: and she says, I don't want to say it on
- 12:29Speaker 1: the podcast, but it's a great line. She holds up
- 12:32Speaker 1: the bazooka, and Grace looks over, and she says, instead
- 12:35Speaker 1: of the C word, I'm going to say Ryan. She says, hey, Ryan. Bye, Ryan.
- 12:42Speaker 1: And then shoots the bazooka. But because these are all
- 12:45Speaker 1: rich idiots, she shoots it backwards. And, like, it blows
- 12:48Speaker 1: up everything behind her. And she goes like, oh, shit.
- 12:55Speaker 1: The next note I have is, like, the amazing total
- 12:59Speaker 1: eclipse of the heart montage.
- 13:00Speaker 2: This is the best part of the entire movie.
- 13:01Speaker 1: But, Ryan, explain.
- 13:03Speaker 2: So they get into... They're obviously fighting at this wedding venue.
- 13:07Speaker 2: And the... where they trip the DJ stereo of playing
- 13:14Speaker 2: whatever song they're going to play for the playlist in
- 13:16Speaker 2: the wedding, and it's totally clips of the heart. And
- 13:18Speaker 2: it's just them slowly beating the shit out of each other.
- 13:21Speaker 2: And it's just great.
- 13:23Speaker 1: So it's the Latina family, old eldest daughter, and Grace fighting,
- 13:30Speaker 1: while at the same time it's Titus beating the absolute
- 13:35Speaker 1: shit out of Faith.
- 13:37Speaker 4: Yeah, there's also a funny little moment because there's pepper
- 13:40Speaker 4: spray involved in this fight, and so neither one of
- 13:43Speaker 4: them can see, and they're attacking cutouts because they think
- 13:46Speaker 4: they're the person. They're tackling tables, and yeah, it's kind
- 13:50Speaker 4: of funny.
- 13:51Speaker 2: I like how Faith does not cave during this because
- 13:55Speaker 2: Titus is just so overly gruesome.
- 13:59Speaker 1: He's an adult man beating up a 20-something-year-old.
- 14:03Speaker 2: And you can tell he's hurting her based on like
- 14:06Speaker 2: her reaction oh she's getting absolutely but she's also like
- 14:09Speaker 2: the worst thing I can do is is play victim
- 14:12Speaker 2: to him or play even if she is actually scared
- 14:15Speaker 2: is be scared to him um So I love how
- 14:19Speaker 2: she just completely is just decimating him just by pretending
- 14:22Speaker 2: this is not as bad as he thinks it is.
- 14:24Speaker 4: And Tannis is slowly throughout the movie losing his control.
- 14:28Speaker 2: Exactly.
- 14:29Speaker 4: He's going crazier and crazier in every scene. And this
- 14:33Speaker 4: is where it's like, okay, he's full-on psycho at this point.
- 14:37Speaker 1: So Grace is fighting the ex-fiance at the wedding venue
- 14:43Speaker 1: and Grace picks up an electronic keyboard. And baseball bats
- 14:47Speaker 1: her across the face with an electronic keyboard, and I
- 14:50Speaker 1: love that moment.
- 14:50Speaker 2: The noise is so great, too.
- 14:52Speaker 1: Yeah, what, sorry, what?
- 14:53Speaker 2: The sound effect is just so great, too.
- 14:55Speaker 1: Yes. And then, I don't remember how this happens, but Grace,
- 14:59Speaker 1: shortly thereafter, gets a shotgun and kills her. Yeah, yeah,
- 15:04Speaker 1: so they.
- 15:05Speaker 4: Titus has the sister, right? And he gets on the
- 15:09Speaker 4: PA system and is like, hey, you need to come
- 15:12Speaker 4: to the lodge or the lobby. I forget which one.
- 15:15Speaker 4: But you need to come here within 10 minutes or
- 15:18Speaker 4: your sister dies. And Grace is trying to figure out
- 15:21Speaker 4: what to do. She's by the little security tent. And
- 15:24Speaker 4: she sees a closet that says, like, you know, armed,
- 15:28Speaker 4: loaded weapons in here. And she pulls out a shotgun and.
- 15:32Speaker 1: Yeah, and then she, and then so the ex-fiance comes
- 15:34Speaker 1: out to try to, like, continue their fight. She just
- 15:37Speaker 1: blows her away with a shotgun. Like, shoots her in
- 15:39Speaker 1: the stomach. Her stomach explodes.
- 15:40Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. I, I, this is, I had a note here, because, right, she's,
- 15:45Speaker 4: she's been on the defensive for, like, a movie and
- 15:49Speaker 4: a half, if we can consider the first one.
- 15:51Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 15:52Speaker 4: Like, this is a continuation, and she starts singing the, like, run, run, run.
- 15:56Speaker 2: Yes.
- 15:58Speaker 4: Song, like, it's kind of from Hide and Seek, and
- 16:00Speaker 4: it's like, okay, this kind of feels like she's going
- 16:02Speaker 4: on the offensive and the little movie normie in me
- 16:04Speaker 4: is like, yes, finally, let's go. Yeah, and so I
- 16:09Speaker 4: have that also. She's like, the ex-fiance is like, oh,
- 16:14Speaker 4: you ready for round two, bitch? And she just goes, yep,
- 16:16Speaker 4: and just cocks the shotgun and shoots her right in
- 16:19Speaker 4: the midsection there.
- 16:21Speaker 1: One of my complaints is the hide-and-seek song is not
- 16:23Speaker 1: in this movie.
- 16:25Speaker 4: Correct.
- 16:26Speaker 2: It's played like chorally later in the movie.
- 16:31Speaker 1: Well, I didn't like they included it at the beginning
- 16:33Speaker 1: and the end of the old movie. It was like
- 16:35Speaker 1: a key pivotal part. That's how the game starts. I
- 16:38Speaker 1: didn't like that. They didn't include that. And she runs.
- 16:44Speaker 1: So Grace goes into the lodge and she runs into
- 16:46Speaker 1: like the little boy who's a part of the Hispanic family.
- 16:50Speaker 1: And he says, let's dance punta. And he pulls out
- 16:54Speaker 1: two machine guns and she starts like spraying her. But she.
- 16:58Speaker 4: This is.
- 16:59Speaker 1: I didn't like this at all. She goes into the meat...
- 17:02Speaker 1: Like the food freezer. Yep. In the chef's area. Locks
- 17:07Speaker 1: herself in. And the whole rich family is like, well,
- 17:10Speaker 1: you can't break through the door of a freezer. That's
- 17:13Speaker 1: not possible.
- 17:14Speaker 4: It's two-inch glass, they say.
- 17:15Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, that's very possible. But okay. You
- 17:18Speaker 1: have a bazooka. You have machine guns. But okay. And
- 17:23Speaker 1: they say, listen.
- 17:26Speaker 1: We're going to kill your sister unless you come out
- 17:28Speaker 1: of the freezer and die. But Grace says, but I
- 17:32Speaker 1: know if I come out of the freezer, you're going
- 17:33Speaker 1: to kill me and then kill my sister anyway. But
- 17:36Speaker 1: I don't want to watch my sister die. So Grace says,
- 17:38Speaker 1: I have an idea. I will come out if Titus,
- 17:41Speaker 1: you agree to marry me. And they're all like, what?
- 17:46Speaker 1: So they look at Elijah Wood because he's the lawyer.
- 17:48Speaker 1: And he says, ah, the rules are pretty shaky here. Yeah.
- 17:53Speaker 4: It's in play.
- 17:53Speaker 2: It's pretty gray over here.
- 17:55Speaker 1: Yeah. Um, And she says, okay, I'm going to come out. Like,
- 18:00Speaker 1: Titus agrees. I will marry you if you come out.
- 18:03Speaker 1: And then she comes out. And there's a line where, like,
- 18:08Speaker 1: the body... They have this bodyguard that's, like... She's, like,
- 18:10Speaker 1: a very German-looking, thick female bodyguard. And Elijah Wood looks
- 18:15Speaker 1: at her and says, like, don't do anything. Like, nobody
- 18:17Speaker 1: can kill her. It's against the rules. So I'm like, what? Like,
- 18:21Speaker 1: this makes no sense. So she comes out of the freezer,
- 18:24Speaker 1: and her and... Faith, they're reunited, and she's going to
- 18:29Speaker 1: marry Titus now.
- 18:30Speaker 4: What.
- 18:31Speaker 2: I was a little bit lost with this part. It's like,
- 18:33Speaker 2: what leverage does Grace have here? Like, outside of, like,
- 18:39Speaker 2: her making a deal with Titus to survive, like, why
- 18:43Speaker 2: would they need to make a deal with her where
- 18:45Speaker 2: clearly they have her overpowered? Do you know what I mean? Like, it.
- 18:49Speaker 1: Well, she can just stay in the... In this movie world,
- 18:52Speaker 1: the freezer is impenetrable for some reason.
- 18:54Speaker 2: That's right.
- 18:54Speaker 1: So she can wait in there until dawn and then
- 18:56Speaker 1: they all die.
- 18:56Speaker 2: That's... That was just the part to me I was
- 18:59Speaker 2: kind of like... It strained the most credulity of a movie.
- 19:04Speaker 2: You shouldn't care about this.
- 19:05Speaker 1: Yes, I agree.
- 19:06Speaker 2: It just was like, guys, you guys have had these
- 19:08Speaker 2: people on the ropes the entire fucking movie.
- 19:10Speaker 1: It just felt wrong when she comes out of the
- 19:12Speaker 1: freezer and like... And they agreed, and then Elijah Wood says, yeah,
- 19:16Speaker 1: nobody can harm her. It's against the rules. Like, that
- 19:18Speaker 1: just felt very stupid to me.
- 19:21Speaker 2: And also, he's so bullheaded, like Titus. I was like,
- 19:24Speaker 2: I didn't think he'd be even smart enough to take
- 19:26Speaker 2: this deal. He would just kill her, let's go.
- 19:30Speaker 1: Yeah, so then she gets ready for this wedding. She's
- 19:35Speaker 1: in a room getting all cleaned up and dolled up,
- 19:38Speaker 1: but she's still, like, banged up. She has slices on
- 19:41Speaker 1: her face and whatever, but she looks amazing.
- 19:44Speaker 2: My note was, looks incredible in this wedding dress. Looks amazing.
- 19:47Speaker 1: Absolutely incredible. She's getting ready for the wedding. SMG comes
- 19:52Speaker 1: in and gives this speech, and I just wrote, this
- 19:54Speaker 1: speech is stupid. Like, I have no other thoughts.
- 19:57Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 19:58Speaker 1: What is she trying to say?
- 19:59Speaker 4: In two seconds, she's like, hey, Titus is freaking crazy.
- 20:03Speaker 4: You can't control him.
- 20:05Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 20:05Speaker 2: Get out of this.
- 20:06Speaker 1: And then Titus comes in and overhears this speech and
- 20:10Speaker 1: then just kills his sister. And I was like, what
- 20:13Speaker 1: was the point of that?
- 20:14Speaker 2: I got the impression that they thought what SMG was
- 20:20Speaker 2: doing was very similar to what she was doing in
- 20:21Speaker 2: Cruel Intentions. Where she is connivingly very convincing, but she
- 20:26Speaker 2: was kind of not in this movie. But, like, you
- 20:28Speaker 2: could understand how she could, like, shift power with how she.
- 20:31Speaker 1: But where's her cocaine cross necklace?
- 20:33Speaker 2: There you go.
- 20:34Speaker 1: But, no, I thought it was... And then when she
- 20:36Speaker 1: gets killed, I was like, well, what was the point
- 20:37Speaker 1: of her character? She just gets killed. I thought she
- 20:39Speaker 1: was going to come back, and she doesn't. Yeah.
- 20:41Speaker 4: I didn't think it was great. The only thing I
- 20:43Speaker 4: wrote is, like, this is the... Hey, there's no rules
- 20:47Speaker 4: against killing a family member.
- 20:48Speaker 1: That's what Titus says.
- 20:50Speaker 2: Correct.
- 20:50Speaker 1: Titus kills SMG and says there's no rules about killing
- 20:53Speaker 1: a family member, just not a competitive family member. Like
- 20:57Speaker 1: it's not part of your family.
- 20:59Speaker 4: So it might come into play later. So I just
- 21:01Speaker 4: felt like this was a story.
- 21:03Speaker 2: It's like a device. It might. Good.
- 21:08Speaker 1: And they go to the Black Temple. They have like
- 21:10Speaker 1: a satanic wedding. And they're getting married. This also just
- 21:15Speaker 1: didn't look great.
- 21:16Speaker 4: No.
- 21:17Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, this just didn't look interesting. I don't know.
- 21:20Speaker 1: No, I agree.
- 21:21Speaker 2: It's a lame complaint, but I just think it looked bad.
- 21:23Speaker 1: And I just was thinking, like, when they built this resort,
- 21:25Speaker 1: they had a bunch of workers build the Satanic Temple
- 21:28Speaker 1: underneath the resort and then the resort on top.
- 21:31Speaker 2: Whatever. Hey, guys, before we start, this section here, like,
- 21:34Speaker 2: they just never say it. This section here, that pit
- 21:36Speaker 2: needs to be about maybe... I mean, think of the
- 21:39Speaker 2: pit from Dark Knight Rises.
- 21:41Speaker 4: Somebody had to build that.
- 21:42Speaker 2: This is going to keep coming back.
- 21:43Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of H.H. Holmes of The Devil
- 21:45Speaker 1: in the White City? No. He's a famous serial killer
- 21:49Speaker 1: around the time of the Chicago World's Fair. And there
- 21:51Speaker 1: was a famous book called The Devil in White City
- 21:53Speaker 1: that was written about him that Martin Scorsese and Leo
- 21:56Speaker 1: bought the rights to and they were going to make
- 21:58Speaker 1: a movie about it where Leo plays him but it
- 22:00Speaker 1: never happened. But he built, it was called The Murder Castle,
- 22:03Speaker 1: and he built this hotel that was filled with gas
- 22:07Speaker 1: vents and secret passages so he could have people come
- 22:10Speaker 1: in and stay in a room and they would gas
- 22:12Speaker 1: them and kill them and then steal all their shit
- 22:14Speaker 1: and then bring them down to the basement and incinerate them.
- 22:17Speaker 1: In the basement he had an incinerator. But the thing
- 22:22Speaker 1: he would do when he was building the murder castle
- 22:24Speaker 1: is he would hire a contractor to build the secret passage.
- 22:27Speaker 1: And then when the secret passage was done and he
- 22:29Speaker 1: had to pay the contractor, he would kill them instead.
- 22:33Speaker 1: And I just imagine that's what they have to do
- 22:34Speaker 1: here when they're building this black temple in the basement
- 22:37Speaker 1: of the resort. But anyways, so she marries Titus. Samara Weaving, Grace,
- 22:45Speaker 1: marries Titus. And then begins to violently stab him to
- 22:49Speaker 1: death in the neck. It's very brutal. And she says,
- 22:53Speaker 1: it's not against the rules to kill a family member.
- 22:55Speaker 1: I want you to remember it's me who got you. Yeah.
- 22:59Speaker 4: I like that Faith, the sister, is just screaming, fuck yeah,
- 23:02Speaker 4: in the corner. Like, let's go. I did like that.
- 23:05Speaker 2: She's also using a pen.
- 23:07Speaker 1: Yeah, she's using a pen. They're all chanting, shem hem fresh.
- 23:13Speaker 1: But she screams to everyone, get on your knees. And
- 23:17Speaker 1: she explains, like, I am now in charge. So, like, Craig,
- 23:21Speaker 1: I don't know if you want to explain the rules
- 23:22Speaker 1: or the situation now that she has killed Titus.
- 23:24Speaker 4: Yeah, so the idea is, right, she gets married to Titus.
- 23:27Speaker 4: They now control the high seat in the council. She
- 23:30Speaker 4: kills Titus, so she is now the high-ranking member in
- 23:34Speaker 4: the council. And she is basically saying, I run the
- 23:38Speaker 4: show here. I get to do whatever I want.
- 23:43Speaker 2: Great line.
- 23:43Speaker 4: She's like, get on your knees. And then she says,
- 23:46Speaker 4: as my first act, I'm... removing myself from all of
- 23:51Speaker 4: this like i'm done yeah right um she gives up
- 23:54Speaker 4: her council seat and so um you realize that there
- 23:58Speaker 4: is now no high-ranking council member um and she even
- 24:04Speaker 4: says like hey didn't you say mr labelle would be
- 24:07Speaker 4: angry if no one's holding the ring by dawn and
- 24:10Speaker 4: you hear you find out yeah dawn's in three minutes Um,
- 24:14Speaker 4: and so they're like, well, who, who gets the seat?
- 24:17Speaker 4: And they're like, well, whoever's wearing the ring.
- 24:20Speaker 1: In three minutes.
- 24:20Speaker 4: In three minutes. Um, and she's basically, I forget the line,
- 24:24Speaker 4: but she's like, you know, suck on it. And she
- 24:26Speaker 4: flips the ring into this like pit where they're sacrificing
- 24:30Speaker 4: the goats.
- 24:30Speaker 1: It's a pit where they've been sacrificing goats for like
- 24:33Speaker 1: a hundred years. So there's like 250 goat bodies. Some
- 24:39Speaker 1: of them have fully decayed to skeletons. Some of them,
- 24:41Speaker 1: they still have meat on them. There's flies flying everywhere.
- 24:44Speaker 1: It's disgusting. And she throws this ring in. If you
- 24:48Speaker 1: get the ring on in three minutes, you rule the world.
- 24:50Speaker 1: So nobody cares. And they all dive into this pit
- 24:53Speaker 1: of disgusting goat corpses. And they're all fighting over it.
- 24:58Speaker 1: They're all stabbing each other. And it turns to dawn.
- 25:02Speaker 1: No one has the ring on. And the pit explodes with.
- 25:06Speaker 2: Ocean of blood.
- 25:07Speaker 1: Ocean of blood from spontaneous combustions.
- 25:09Speaker 4: I heard they used 150 gallons of fake blood.
- 25:12Speaker 2: Oh, it's real, really?
- 25:13Speaker 1: Yeah, this is.
- 25:14Speaker 2: They have.
- 25:15Speaker 4: Blood cannons on set. Yeah, this is not CGI, supposedly.
- 25:18Speaker 4: This is all practical effect.
- 25:20Speaker 1: I love it. I remember there was a Guinness World
- 25:22Speaker 1: Record for most fake blood used in a movie, and
- 25:24Speaker 1: it was Peter Jackson for... What's it called? Dead Alive?
- 25:29Speaker 1: Dead Alive, yeah.
- 25:30Speaker 4: Meet the Feebles.
- 25:30Speaker 2: There was a lot in Abigail, actually. There was so
- 25:33Speaker 2: much blood in Abigail.
- 25:35Speaker 1: So, there's a lot of explosions, and then the Aziz
- 25:39Speaker 1: Ansari guy comes, and he was like, it didn't get me, like,
- 25:43Speaker 1: I don't know what happened, but I survived, and then
- 25:45Speaker 1: he explodes.
- 25:46Speaker 4: Right in front of him, yep.
- 25:48Speaker 1: And, of course, Mr. LaBelle.
- 25:51Speaker 4: One more time, he kind of, there's a little fire...
- 25:54Speaker 4: He appears.
- 25:55Speaker 1: He's invisible.
- 25:56Speaker 2: He has no labialis played by James Vanderbilt, who is
- 26:01Speaker 2: a screenwriter.
- 26:03Speaker 1: No.
- 26:03Speaker 2: Who works with Radio Silence, made this movie. He wrote
- 26:07Speaker 2: the Scream 5 and 6 scripts. He co-wrote the first one.
- 26:12Speaker 2: He also wrote Zodiac.
- 26:14Speaker 4: Wow.
- 26:15Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 26:15Speaker 1: Okay.
- 26:16Speaker 2: Interesting.
- 26:16Speaker 1: Accomplished guy.
- 26:17Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 26:18Speaker 1: And then the sisters leave the home and they smoke
- 26:22Speaker 1: cigarettes together. And they hold hands and say, I do.
- 26:27Speaker 1: And they take, there was a goat that was going
- 26:29Speaker 1: to be sacrificed. They take it with them.
- 26:31Speaker 2: Love that.
- 26:32Speaker 1: And Faith says to Grace, what are you going to
- 26:33Speaker 1: do with the goat? And she goes, I don't know.
- 26:36Speaker 1: I just didn't want to leave it there.
- 26:37Speaker 2: That was such a great moment. I'll save the thing
- 26:40Speaker 2: that you guys don't care about. That was the whole point.
- 26:43Speaker 1: They were leaving and that's the end of the movie.
- 26:47Speaker 4: How many times are you going to get married this week?
- 26:48Speaker 4: I thought it was kind of a funny line.
- 26:50Speaker 1: Yeah, because she got married.
- 26:51Speaker 4: She got married to Alex.
- 26:52Speaker 1: Twice in a couple days.
- 26:54Speaker 4: Not bad.
- 26:56Speaker 1: And that's the end of the movie. My Ready or
- 27:01Speaker 1: Not To advice is watch any of the three movies instead.
- 27:06Speaker 1: Watch Ready or Not One. If you haven't seen Ready
- 27:08Speaker 1: or Not One, watch it. It's awesome. Ron won. Ron won.
- 27:13Speaker 1: The Babysitter, which I believe is on Netflix, starring Samara Weaving. Awesome.
- 27:17Speaker 1: And also, maybe... It depends. It depends. If you're okay
- 27:22Speaker 1: with vampires, some people can't do Supernatural. If you can't
- 27:25Speaker 1: do Supernatural, then watch Ready or Not 1. It's still Supernatural,
- 27:28Speaker 1: but not as much. But if you're okay with vampires, Abigail.
- 27:33Speaker 2: But Abigail, a lot of it is.
- 27:34Speaker 1: Abigail is awesome.
- 27:35Speaker 2: A lot of it is a break-in thing to it.
- 27:37Speaker 2: It's not as Supernatural when it gets to the end,
- 27:39Speaker 2: but like.
- 27:40Speaker 1: And there's also the Scream King in Abigail. What's his name?
- 27:43Speaker 2: Dan Stevens.
- 27:44Speaker 1: Dan Stevens.
- 27:45Speaker 2: God.
- 27:45Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 27:45Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 27:46Speaker 1: Uh, that, they're all so, those three movies are so good.
- 27:50Speaker 1: Way better than Ready or Not 2. Um, so watch
- 27:54Speaker 1: for Halloween, watch any of those three movies and you
- 27:56Speaker 1: won't be disappointed. But I'd probably, my personal choice, man,
- 28:03Speaker 1: that's really tough. It would be either Ready or Not
- 28:05Speaker 1: or Abigail, like, tie, and then Babysitter's awesome. That would
- 28:10Speaker 1: be my advice. What is your advice, Ryan, for Ready
- 28:12Speaker 1: or Not 2? Um....
- 28:18Speaker 2: God, I'm so bad at this. I got nothing. I'm sorry.
- 28:25Speaker 2: I have no advice for this.
- 28:27Speaker 1: You can't pass on advice. We do this every time.
- 28:30Speaker 1: You didn't watch Hoppers.
- 28:32Speaker 2: I couldn't watch Hoppers. Yeah, I didn't watch Hoppers.
- 28:35Speaker 1: You could have watched Hoppers. I mean, you texted me like,
- 28:42Speaker 1: hey man, I can't watch Hoppers. I'm going to my
- 28:44Speaker 1: uncle's funeral. And what did I say back? I said,
- 28:48Speaker 1: Fuck you.
- 28:48Speaker 2: He won't miss you. That's what you said, which I
- 28:50Speaker 2: thought was the meanest thing I ever heard in my life. No.
- 28:57Speaker 2: Or watch Scream 5 or 6. Those are just as fun. Yeah. Yeah.
- 29:04Speaker 4: Yeah, those are hard to top.
- 29:07Speaker 1: No.
- 29:08Speaker 4: Well, okay. I was trying to be nice. In the
- 29:10Speaker 4: same token that Tim said, Elijah Wood, watch Wilfred.
- 29:16Speaker 1: Wilfred, yeah.
- 29:17Speaker 4: You know it's it's it's a little bit better than
- 29:19Speaker 4: ready or not to it's it's not terrible watch north.
- 29:23Speaker 5: What's that no have you guys seen the good son
- 29:26Speaker 5: oh my god never seen it you've never seen the
- 29:29Speaker 5: good son people hate the good son uh siskel and
- 29:34Speaker 5: ebert like eviscerated it because they said it's like well
- 29:37Speaker 5: this is disgusting you're making a movie about an evil
- 29:39Speaker 5: kid like who wants this I love the good son
- 29:44Speaker 5: the good son.
- 29:44Speaker 1: You've never seen it so I've always talked about the
- 29:46Speaker 1: good son scenario because that's the scenario at the end
- 29:48Speaker 1: of the movie right where you have two people hanging
- 29:51Speaker 1: off of a cliff and you only have the physical
- 29:53Speaker 1: strength to save one who do you save it's like
- 29:55Speaker 1: a brilliant the good son is perfect In my book,
- 30:01Speaker 1: but people absolutely hate it.
- 30:03Speaker 2: I gotta watch it, yeah.
- 30:05Speaker 1: Macaulay Culkin playing a villain. Awesome.
- 30:08Speaker 2: Not too bad, honestly. Makes sense.
- 30:12Speaker 1: So watch The Good Son is your advice, Craig?
- 30:15Speaker 4: I think that was Ryan's advice. Mine was Wilfred.
- 30:17Speaker 2: I've never seen it, yeah.
- 30:19Speaker 1: What's the line in Big L, Devil's Son? He says,
- 30:22Speaker 1: I made every kid from the hood run. I was
- 30:25Speaker 1: just like that little bastard in The Good Son.
- 30:27Speaker 5: Ugh.
- 30:29Speaker 4: Great line.
- 30:32Speaker 1: Yeah. So, Craig, thanks so much for coming back.
- 30:37Speaker 2: Yes.
- 30:37Speaker 4: I've had a blast. Thank you for opening up the basement.
- 30:42Speaker 1: Andy Juno was texting me, like, can I come back?
- 30:45Speaker 1: And I was like, absolutely not. Then you texted me,
- 30:48Speaker 1: can I come back? And I said, yes. Yes, you should.
- 30:51Speaker 4: Listen, I'm just going to go on the record. I'm
- 30:53Speaker 4: an Andy Juno fan. What? Every pod he's been on,
- 30:56Speaker 4: it's been great.
- 30:57Speaker 1: He's like, let's watch a movie that's from another country
- 31:00Speaker 1: where it's about people being stupid. I'm like, shut up, Andy.
- 31:03Speaker 2: Go right back to your original point. Best movies are
- 31:06Speaker 2: American stories, right?
- 31:10Speaker 4: Did you buy that Punisher bumper sticker with the Trump hair?
- 31:13Speaker 2: I did.
- 31:14Speaker 1: Is that you? That was me. That was me.
- 31:16Speaker 2: Just walk by the car on the driveway and you'll
- 31:19Speaker 2: see where it is.
- 31:21Speaker 1: But no, thank you for coming back, Craig. And we
- 31:23Speaker 1: do need to do a podcast with Andy Juno soon.
- 31:27Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, scarily enough, best of the year will
- 31:30Speaker 2: be here in two months.
- 31:31Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. We always do best of the year
- 31:33Speaker 1: with Andy.
- 31:33Speaker 4: That's a great one.
- 31:34Speaker 1: He forces us.
- 31:36Speaker 2: He forces us.
- 31:38Speaker 1: And yeah, you guys always get me great gifts. Ryan,
- 31:42Speaker 1: after the Pixar S-Year list, you bought Cece a Doug
- 31:47Speaker 1: doll from Up, which was so kind. And Cece loves
- 31:52Speaker 1: that thing.
- 31:53Speaker 2: I love it here.
- 31:54Speaker 1: That was so kind. And then Craig. You've got me
- 31:57Speaker 1: several gifts. You got me the Cubs Basement t-shirt, Cubs
- 31:59Speaker 1: Basement shot glasses. You bought CeCe after the last pod.
- 32:03Speaker 1: You bought her a very... I know you didn't really
- 32:05Speaker 1: mean she would use it, but you got her a
- 32:07Speaker 1: Derringer pistol because you were like, oh, it's the smallest
- 32:10Speaker 1: gun I could buy. And you said, don't load it,
- 32:13Speaker 1: but take pictures with her holding it. It'll be cute
- 32:16Speaker 1: for the Christmas card and whatever. And that was really nice.
- 32:19Speaker 4: Punch-up special there.
- 32:21Speaker 2: Matching ashtray coming soon.
- 32:24Speaker 1: Yes, yes. Yes, so thanks so much. Thank you to
- 32:29Speaker 1: Yukon Jack.
- 32:31Speaker 2: Yeah, that was actually really great.
- 32:32Speaker 1: Thank you to Sea Ice for sponsoring my most recent
- 32:36Speaker 1: trip to Ireland to visit the Sea Ice Distillery.
- 32:40Speaker 2: You know they don't have a website? That's so funny.
- 32:42Speaker 2: I looked it up when you were there.
- 32:44Speaker 1: Who has a website in 2026? Nobody. No companies have
- 32:47Speaker 1: websites in 2026.
- 32:47Speaker 2: People who shouldn't have websites have websites in 2026.
- 32:50Speaker 4: Can I, real quick, scary, I was at Total Wine
- 32:53Speaker 4: getting both of these. And I had a guy, and
- 32:55Speaker 4: he was pointing out stuff to me. And I said, hey, randomly,
- 32:59Speaker 4: do you know where this Yukon Jack is? He knew
- 33:01Speaker 4: exactly where it was. And then I was like, do
- 33:02Speaker 4: you know where Sea Ice is? He knew exactly where
- 33:04Speaker 4: it was. And I was like, that can't be a
- 33:07Speaker 4: good sign that you know where all this stuff is.
- 33:08Speaker 1: Do you need help? No, no, you already told me
- 33:11Speaker 1: where the liquor is. No, no, no, I mean like
- 33:13Speaker 1: beyond that.
- 33:14Speaker 2: What if he just said... He gave a look. What
- 33:16Speaker 2: if he just goes, just look in your right hand,
- 33:17Speaker 2: and it was there? Because you asked, you believed it
- 33:22Speaker 2: would be real.
- 33:24Speaker 1: He goes, oh, we don't have it, Craig. And then
- 33:26Speaker 1: he winks at you. Craig. And then you say, okay,
- 33:29Speaker 1: you don't have it in stock? And he goes, no.
- 33:30Speaker 1: And he winks. And then you're like, okay, whatever. You
- 33:33Speaker 1: go in your car. You open the door. It's on
- 33:34Speaker 1: your driver's seat.
- 33:38Speaker 4: I think right after the wink he said, and by
- 33:40Speaker 4: the way.
- 33:40Speaker 2: Praise came in for his gifts. My God.
- 33:42Speaker 4: Buzz balls are over in aisle one.
- 33:44Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 33:45Speaker 1: Well, guys, I can only end this podcast with a
- 33:47Speaker 1: little taste of the.
- 33:49Speaker 4: Old sea ice.
- 33:50Speaker 2: Well, pour a little of it.
- 33:52Speaker 1: Ryan, just a little. A little shot of sea ice.
- 33:56Speaker 2: I'm going to read a.
- 33:57Speaker 1: Sorry, split it with Ryan.
- 33:58Speaker 2: Split it with Ryan. I'll read an excerpt from a
- 34:01Speaker 2: great book while we're doing that.
- 34:02Speaker 1: Okay.
- 34:05Speaker 2: All right. Cheers, guys. To the sea.
- 34:07Speaker 1: To the ice. To the melted glaciers that produce sea
- 34:10Speaker 1: ice in Ireland.
- 34:11Speaker 2: Oh, look at that. Mine still has a lot of
- 34:13Speaker 2: leftovers in there.
- 34:14Speaker 1: It sure does.
- 34:16Speaker 2: Oh alright in a great green room there was a
- 34:24Speaker 2: telephone and a red balloon and a picture of the
- 34:28Speaker 2: cow jumping over the moon and a little toy house
- 34:36Speaker 2: oh wow and a young mouse goodnight comb goodnight brush
- 34:44Speaker 2: and goodnight mush And goodnight to the old lady whispering hush.
- 34:51Speaker 2: Goodnight podcast. Goodnight listeners. Goodnight moon.
- 34:57Speaker 1: Happy Halloween. Don't forget to buckle your shoes.
- 35:01Speaker 2: Fuck.
- 35:16Speaker 1: Buckle your shoes!