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- 1:19Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Radio. China in Focus. A ruling by an
- 1:25Speaker 1: international court on the South China Sea dispute hits the
- 1:31Speaker 1: world overnight today. It looks like China maybe more willing
- 1:34Speaker 1: to negotiate on this, taking some focus on Brexit and
- 1:38Speaker 1: certainly putting the focus back on Asia. Eric Shim joins
- 1:42Speaker 1: this now, policy adviser for the International Trade and Regulatory
- 1:46Speaker 1: Group at Alston and Bird in Washington, d C. So Eric,
- 1:51Speaker 1: start with the tribunals ruling, what they said, and China's
- 1:55Speaker 1: response today seeming a bit more cooperative. I don't know
- 1:59Speaker 1: if I go so far as as cooperative today. You know,
- 2:03Speaker 1: yesterday the Chinese Foreign Ministry very quickly came out and
- 2:07Speaker 1: and rejected the ruling in its entirety. Today in China,
- 2:12Speaker 1: the Foreign Ministry followed up with a ninety minute press
- 2:14Speaker 1: conference that was broadcast twice live uh to the nation,
- 2:19Speaker 1: in which the Foreign Ministry rolled out about a thirteen
- 2:23Speaker 1: thousand word position paper in which it defended all of
- 2:27Speaker 1: the claims that China had made and which the tribunal
- 2:30Speaker 1: in the Hague rejected yesterday. UH, So it's definitely rather
- 2:35Speaker 1: firm rhetoric from China. Another senior Chinese official also declared
- 2:40Speaker 1: that that China has the right to UH demarcate an
- 2:44Speaker 1: air defense identification zone over the disputed islands where China
- 2:50Speaker 1: has has claimed sovereignty. So they're not relinquishing any claims today. Eric.
- 2:56Speaker 1: Just to be clear, this case was brought by the Philippines. Right.
- 2:59Speaker 1: This is we're a dispute with China regarding the right
- 3:02Speaker 1: of the Philippines to exploit natural resources in what is
- 3:05Speaker 1: described as the exclusive economic zone. It extends from territory
- 3:09Speaker 1: that it claims in the South China Sea. That's right.
- 3:12Speaker 1: This stems from a long running dispute between China and
- 3:15Speaker 1: the Philippines over territory around the Spratley Islands UH, and
- 3:21Speaker 1: territory that extends it's within UH, mainly within the Philippines
- 3:27Speaker 1: exclusive two nautical mile UM exclusive economic zone. Over the
- 3:33Speaker 1: past several years, China has built artificial reefs UH and
- 3:36Speaker 1: other structures within those waters UH, in effect laying sovereign
- 3:42Speaker 1: claim to that territory and by extension, to to all
- 3:45Speaker 1: the waters where where the Philippines had had previously enjoyed
- 3:49Speaker 1: sovereign control. Well, you know, you have noted that there
- 3:52Speaker 1: are real risks to train in commerce through the South
- 3:55Speaker 1: China Sea and all this. But is there a military
- 3:59Speaker 1: risk here? There is a military risk, and I would
- 4:02Speaker 1: say that the military and commercial are linked. Uh. There's
- 4:07Speaker 1: now a lot of immediate public opinion pressure in the
- 4:09Speaker 1: Philippines saying, hey, we've been vindicated. Uh, those waters are
- 4:14Speaker 1: ours to fish or the ones that are not ours
- 4:16Speaker 1: are at least now internationally open high seas. Uh. The
- 4:21Speaker 1: Philippines has a very lucrative national fishing industry. Many of
- 4:24Speaker 1: those fishing vessels have lost significant revenues over the past
- 4:29Speaker 1: couple of years as they've been increasingly denied access to
- 4:32Speaker 1: their traditional fishing grounds by UH by either the Chinese
- 4:37Speaker 1: military vessels or by what's known as China's maritime militia,
- 4:41Speaker 1: which essentially are fishing fishing fleets under the under the
- 4:45Speaker 1: supervision of China's military. Now we could see uh, you know,
- 4:50Speaker 1: all manner of fishing vessels, whether they be Filipino or
- 4:55Speaker 1: Vietnamese or Indonesian, seeking to return to those international high
- 4:59Speaker 1: seas areas where where China's claims were we're rejected by
- 5:03Speaker 1: the tribunal. The question is are those going to be
- 5:05Speaker 1: met by Chinese navel or other vessels? Are those going
- 5:08Speaker 1: to provoke clashes at SEE which could lead to greater
- 5:12Speaker 1: military involvement by all the parties UH in the region Erica.
- 5:17Speaker 1: Other members of the region include Japan and I wonder
- 5:21Speaker 1: if you could comment on the dispute between Japan and
- 5:26Speaker 1: China in the East China Sea and also the dispute
- 5:30Speaker 1: that really comes when you talk about economic issues because
- 5:34Speaker 1: it has to do with the natural gas projects that
- 5:36Speaker 1: Beijing has been constructing. That's right. The China and Japan
- 5:41Speaker 1: have had UH an extremely long running UH argument over
- 5:46Speaker 1: the Senkaku or as the Chinese city of Dayu islands
- 5:50Speaker 1: in the East China Sea UH. That is a hotbed
- 5:54Speaker 1: for natural resource development, with both National oilk On both
- 5:58Speaker 1: the Chinese National oilk Company in various Japanese oil companies
- 6:01Speaker 1: competing for UH for seabed exploration find um. The Japanese
- 6:08Speaker 1: have long been considering whether or not to submit their
- 6:12Speaker 1: case to arbitration at the Hague, and the Japanese strongly
- 6:16Speaker 1: supported yesterday's ruling, So we might might expect the Japanese
- 6:20Speaker 1: effectively to to take China to court uh sooner than later,
- 6:24Speaker 1: believing that now they've got the weight of international maritime
- 6:27Speaker 1: law on their side. Eric quickly back to China. Those
- 6:29Speaker 1: social media flooded with thousands of comments testy, often for
- 6:33Speaker 1: fane nationalism one of our Bloomberg view people rights, uh,
- 6:37Speaker 1: some even calling for war. This was you know, blocked
- 6:41Speaker 1: to a certain extent. But the fact that the Chinese
- 6:43Speaker 1: let any of these testy comments out does it show?
- 6:46Speaker 1: Is this a little waving a warning flag at the US? Certainly?
- 6:51Speaker 1: Um uh typical Chinese UM behavior. I mean they have
- 6:56Speaker 1: a uh, they have a public that has that has
- 7:00Speaker 1: grown in its awareness of their country's strength, both economic
- 7:03Speaker 1: and military over the last decade and a half. Uh.
- 7:07Speaker 1: In a way, the she government UM may have put
- 7:11Speaker 1: itself in a bit of a corner by sticking out
- 7:14Speaker 1: such a strong position. So it's going to be hard
- 7:17Speaker 1: for China to climb down. And that's where the US
- 7:20Speaker 1: and a lot of diplomatic players will have to enter
- 7:22Speaker 1: and find a creative way to move forward. Thank you
- 7:25Speaker 1: very much. Eric Schimp, his policy advisor, International Trade and
- 7:28Speaker 1: regulatory group for Austin Bird in Washington, d C. Home
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