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IAAI Town Meeting: Oy with the Poodles Already (Season 2 E22 “I Can’t Get Started”) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I Am all in again. Oh that's just you.
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  Speaker 2: I Am all in Town meeting with Suzanne French and
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  Speaker 2: Tara suit An iHeartRadio podcast. Hey guys, welcome back to
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  Speaker 2: another episode of I'm All in Town meeting with myself,
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  Speaker 2: Tara and Suzanne. Hello, OI with the Poodles. Already we
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  Speaker 2: are on season season two finale.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I didn't realize that we got Oi with the
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  Speaker 3: Poodles so soon. I thought it was like the season
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  Speaker 3: four thing.
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  Speaker 2: Well. Also, I didn't realize it was this episode. Like
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  Speaker 2: I actually did think it was early on. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: realize it was like all in this episode, which, by
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  Speaker 2: the way, I just jumped into it. We're talking about
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  Speaker 2: season two, episode twenty two, I Can't Get Started, which
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  Speaker 2: aired on May twenty first, two thousand and two. Yes, listen,
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  Speaker 2: I know what happened at the end. Obviously I knew
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  Speaker 2: what was happening. Yeah, watching this back, it's been a minute.
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  Speaker 2: Not my favorite episode. I mean, it's just not that
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  Speaker 2: it's bad. It was just like an annoying episode. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Like I think it was really entertaining. It was just
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  Speaker 2: annoying as like a viewer because of the Christopher of
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  Speaker 2: it all.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I I am I was. I get really annoyed
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  Speaker 3: with the scene of the two of them on the
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  Speaker 3: couch at the Dragonfly Like I and I've mentioned it
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  Speaker 3: before in another Christopher episode. The way he stares at
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  Speaker 3: her is creepy, and I, you know, I think that's
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  Speaker 3: an acting choice that it was made to, you know,
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  Speaker 3: try and convey that, you know, Christopher is still obsessed
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  Speaker 3: with her. But then she does the same thing, like
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  Speaker 3: she kind of looks at him with her eyes half closed,
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  Speaker 3: and I don't I don't like either one of them
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  Speaker 3: in that scene. And I just I watched this episode
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  Speaker 3: a couple times, and the first time I just watched
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  Speaker 3: it all the way through. But then when I watched
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  Speaker 3: it after that, I had to just skip that scene.
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  Speaker 3: I couldn't even watch it anymore. It's it's just terrible.
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  Speaker 2: Between the couch scene and then when they just like
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  Speaker 2: start kissing in the middle of the wedding, I was like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: we just like.
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  Speaker 3: She's at work, like, don't do that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just I was like, okay, so suddenly
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  Speaker 2: we're in a relationship, Like, yeah, you slept with each
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  Speaker 2: other one night and then you woke up and decided
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna have a whole future.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's I mean, it's it's sort of a
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  Speaker 3: foreshadowing of what we're gonna see in season seven, because
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  Speaker 3: if you pay attention to to Laurelize dialogue only, she's
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  Speaker 3: kind of dragging her feet. She's like, I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: I'm worried about Rory, Like she's very uncertain about it.
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  Speaker 3: But but Christopher is like, it's time, lor the timing's
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  Speaker 3: never been right before.
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  Speaker 1: Lare like, dude, I don't want he calls her Lare.
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  Speaker 3: It drives me crazy, and so he just he was
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  Speaker 3: being pushy about it, and then eventually she's like, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: well I guess we can try. Like she didn't even
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  Speaker 3: seem like she was that invested in it, but he
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  Speaker 3: kept pushing it. And then now boom, we're in a
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  Speaker 3: relationship and we're telling Emily about.
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  Speaker 2: It and like, yeah, okay, and then you tell Emily
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  Speaker 2: like you haven't even talked about anything.
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  Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know, and also like for
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  Speaker 1: him to go to Rory.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, we're jumping all over the place, but we are like,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this is it's the finale. It is what
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  Speaker 2: it is to go to Rory and be like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: like it's different this time, blah blah.
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  Speaker 1: And then what did the phone call come? Right after
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  Speaker 1: he talked to Rory?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he know it was while he was talking to Rory,
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  Speaker 3: his phone rings and he says, oh, it's probably work,
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  Speaker 3: and she says on a Sunday, and he says something like, well,
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  Speaker 3: I'm really important now, and then that she walked away,
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  Speaker 3: and then that's like he walked away to take the phone.
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  Speaker 2: So I got so blown away by the sudden he's
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  Speaker 2: having a baby, which you know, I did think at
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  Speaker 2: one point I was like, could you have imagined if
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  Speaker 2: like lorele I also got pregnant, like what the show
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  Speaker 2: would have been Like? It just made me think, like,
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  Speaker 2: seems like an irresponsible man over here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly that could have been. That could have
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  Speaker 3: been a whole that would have been hold.
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  Speaker 2: Honestly, that would have been, but not not in season two.
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  Speaker 2: If like they brought that up in like season like six,
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  Speaker 2: I would have been okay with it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, been hot mess.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the Christopher of it all is just
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  Speaker 1: so annoying.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. And then that, speaking of Rory at the end,
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  Speaker 3: when he tells Laura I that you know, he's he's
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  Speaker 3: leaving the wedding to go. I don't know why he
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  Speaker 3: needed to leave their wedding right that second. It's not
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  Speaker 3: like she's giving.
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  Speaker 1: He's not giving birth. Yeah yeah, but whatever.
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  Speaker 3: So he tells Lorlai that he's leaving, and and he
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  Speaker 3: tells her to tell Rory, Like, dude, you this, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you just had a conversation about how you're gonna be there,
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  Speaker 3: and you made these promises to her. Now you're going
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  Speaker 3: back on it, and you're too chicken to tell her. Sorry.
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  Speaker 3: But it just he makes me so angry. It's like
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  Speaker 3: being a man and go talk to your kid.
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  Speaker 2: Well, And that's why this episode got on my nerves
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  Speaker 2: because of the Loralai and Christopher of it all. If
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  Speaker 2: you took that out, I actually would have liked the
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  Speaker 2: but like really really liked it.
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  Speaker 1: Mind you.
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  Speaker 2: I say this in the sense of we're overfixating and
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  Speaker 2: hyper analyzing every little thing.
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  Speaker 1: Like as a viewer, it was thoroughly entertaining, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're just talking so forever it thinks like,
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  Speaker 2: oh I love this episode, Like nothing, I disliked it.
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  Speaker 2: I just he's annoying and I literally had a smile
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  Speaker 2: on my face at the Jess part because I knew
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  Speaker 2: it was happening, but I forget that like how sudden
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  Speaker 2: it was. Yes, I was like, oh okay, like really
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  Speaker 2: like holding that in for a while. But yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I just I mean, I can go on about how
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  Speaker 2: annoying Christopher is for a very long time. But I
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  Speaker 2: guess to sum it up, and I'm sure you agree,
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  Speaker 2: is that they jump the gun. They didn't even give
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  Speaker 2: it twenty four hours. They didn't have a conversation between
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  Speaker 2: the two of them before telling Emily and telling Rory.
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  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, and I guess Sherry, Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: We don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I don't think he did tell Sherry no, But
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  Speaker 4: I'm saying like it sounded like it's the whole friends
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  Speaker 4: we were on a break type thing, like it wasn't
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  Speaker 4: like I don't think they actually broke up.
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  Speaker 2: I think they just had an argument and she probably
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  Speaker 2: walked away for a day or two and then.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because he didn't he hadn't told her he was
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  Speaker 3: gonna look for a new apartment. So yeah, I I.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it sounded like it just happened three days prior.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. I I don't know, But let's talk about
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  Speaker 3: the jest things.
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, let's.
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  Speaker 3: Talk about Jess.
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  Speaker 1: Well, he definitely came back to the stars hollow for Rory.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't go totally, but you know what, a piece
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  Speaker 1: of it also made me think that he liked living
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  Speaker 1: with Luke.
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  Speaker 2: I think, so, I think Rory's a big factor.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but Rory's a big factor.
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  Speaker 2: But I think he doesn't dislike Luke, and I think
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  Speaker 2: he likes the discipline a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: I agree with that because the episode before this one,
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  Speaker 3: just to refresh everyone's memory, was where Rory goes to
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  Speaker 3: New York to see Jazz and he asked her how
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  Speaker 3: Luke was doing, like He's made a point to do that.
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  Speaker 3: So I think that I yeah, I think it was
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  Speaker 3: ninety percent Rory and maybe ten percent Luke made him come.
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  Speaker 1: Back fifteen a little. I think he knew.
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  Speaker 3: That Luke's like, Luke is a safe place. Like I
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  Speaker 3: don't know how to really word it, but I agree
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  Speaker 3: with that. I think he knew that he would be
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  Speaker 3: okay at Luke's.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. And then also when.
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  Speaker 2: When he came to the apartment and he was like,
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  Speaker 2: and Luke is like, I called you whatever he said,
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  Speaker 2: I left you voicemails or I called you and you
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  Speaker 2: didn't answer, and I just wanted to make sure you
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  Speaker 2: were there and you got there safe. Like they got
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  Speaker 2: into this whole fight, and it shows Luke's character. They
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  Speaker 2: got into this whole fight, but he was still concerned
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  Speaker 2: if his nephew got back to New York safe. He
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  Speaker 2: wasn't like mugged on the bus, right or whatever he said.
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  Speaker 1: And I think in that moment.
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  Speaker 2: And especially when Luke said, we have to set some
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  Speaker 2: boundaries if you're gonna stay this time, I think just
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  Speaker 2: liked it. I think he actually did appreciate some ground
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  Speaker 2: rules that someone cared, because clearly his mom doesn't care, right,
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  Speaker 2: she cares, but she's not, you know.
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  Speaker 3: She's not really capable of parenting him.
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  Speaker 1: Here we go. That was a nice way of saying, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and I.
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  Speaker 3: Don't know that Luke is either, but at least Luke
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  Speaker 3: is trying. Yeah, And I thought it was I thought
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  Speaker 3: it was nice Jess offered to help him close that
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  Speaker 3: night like that. You know, it showed that he was
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  Speaker 3: willing to compromise.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, well, I also think that saying that
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  Speaker 2: he came for Rory, I think he knows that if
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  Speaker 2: he's coming to be with Rory. He also has to
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  Speaker 2: change because he needed that town to like him. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Rory is the golden child of that town.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and everyone likes for and everyone takes care for.
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  Speaker 2: And when obviously this all happened, they just went after
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  Speaker 2: Jess in the sense of that he's bad, he broke
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  Speaker 2: our child's right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all just his fault.
• 9:37
  Speaker 1: It's not Rory's fault at all, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: So I think he also is then realizing that he
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  Speaker 2: needs to prove to Lorelai that he's not a bad guy.
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  Speaker 1: He can be good for Rory.
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  Speaker 2: Like he's he's kind of like building up to like
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  Speaker 2: what he wants. Yeah, he's he went about the wrong
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  Speaker 2: ways of it to begin, but you know.
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  Speaker 3: Right right, yeah, I mean because he knows the reaction
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  Speaker 3: he's going to get from Lorelei and the rest of
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  Speaker 3: the town, and like when they see him again, they're
• 10:04
  Speaker 3: gonna be you know, they're immediately going to make a
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  Speaker 3: snap decision, uh, you know how they feel about him.
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  Speaker 3: So he he knows that he's got a lot to prove.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Sure, but that kiss at the end was left kiss.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that was good that I did. I liked
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  Speaker 3: the ending of that.
• 10:31
  Speaker 2: I was thinking in the moment, I was like, because
• 10:33
  Speaker 2: I obviously have watched the show, but I don't remember
• 10:35
  Speaker 2: like I was younger, I don't remember little details like
• 10:38
  Speaker 2: oh I remember this finale, Like I actually don't remember,
• 10:41
  Speaker 2: but like I just want to know what an uproar
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: it caused, like this finale caused in households. But the
• 10:49
  Speaker 2: thing is is there was no social media, right, so
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: like unless like you watched with your friend and you
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  Speaker 2: both called each other after, like there's no like, oh
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: my god, did you like you know, I take the
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: summer I turn pretty as a great example of did
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  Speaker 2: you finish it?
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  Speaker 1: By the way season you start it?
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  Speaker 3: I watched two episodes and then I keep forgetting about it.
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  Speaker 1: I have season one, no season three.
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  Speaker 3: I watched season one. Okay, okay, so season three I
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  Speaker 3: watched two episodes and then I.
• 11:18
  Speaker 2: Keep get to like it gets to episode four and
• 11:20
  Speaker 2: then it gets good, gets episode four or five, and
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  Speaker 2: season three just kind of.
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  Speaker 3: Blows you prioritize that in my list.
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  Speaker 1: Well, like the finale was like so.
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  Speaker 2: Monumental because it also changed a little bit from the book,
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: but it was such a talk of the town. It
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: made me think because like, as we're recording this, like
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: that had just happened a week ago, the finale the
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: summer I turned pretty so it made me think of
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: this finale and I'm like, well, there was no one
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: to talk to about it unless you called your friend, right,
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: But it literally left on a cliffhanger, where like now
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  Speaker 2: lauralize alone and now Rory has a boyfriend and just
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: made out with Jess and she says she's going to
• 11:59
  Speaker 2: walk Washington. Yeah, like imagine just now having to wait
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: six months?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah exactly. I know. I know, I can't remember.
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  Speaker 3: I can't remember back that far. I know, like was
• 12:14
  Speaker 3: like in Friends too, like when Ross says the wrong
• 12:17
  Speaker 3: name at his wedding and then we had to wait
• 12:19
  Speaker 3: all that time, Like, oh.
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: My god, I can't imagine waiting on that one because
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: I binged Friends.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I watched it in real time, so but
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  Speaker 3: that we watched everything in real time, but we didn't
• 12:29
  Speaker 3: even know any different. We didn't know what the future
• 12:32
  Speaker 3: was going to be like, so it didn't even occur
• 12:33
  Speaker 3: to us to think about it.
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  Speaker 2: But I wonder if, especially back then, it was like
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  Speaker 2: a way of being like, well, don't worry we're coming
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  Speaker 2: back for season next season.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah that's true.
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  Speaker 1: Imagine like leaving a show hanging like that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that would be bad.
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think what else.
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: I thought it was really funny, and I sided with
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: Emily and Richard about the pity invite.
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: Yes, like they were so right.
• 12:56
  Speaker 3: They were They totally were like when somebody gives you
• 12:59
  Speaker 3: an invitation into something right before, like a major event
• 13:02
  Speaker 3: like that, and you get invited at the last minute,
• 13:04
  Speaker 3: you're like, yeah, I wasn't on the original invite list.
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: Well, cause so I have.
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: I'm a bridesmaid's in my friend's wedding this year, and
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: like we were talking about like her invite list because
• 13:14
  Speaker 2: it's now the time, it's in November, and now's the
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: time when everyone's saying yes no, I'm making final decisions
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: because it's also in New York.
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  Speaker 1: And I asked her. I was like, do you have
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: a backup list? She's like, what do you mean?
• 13:24
  Speaker 3: And I was.
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: Like, like for everyone who says no, do you have
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  Speaker 2: like a backup list? She's like no, I just invite
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: everyone at once, knowing half these people probably won't come.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, okay, but like there are those
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: I have been one of those people who got like
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: the second round of invites, and I know it. They
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: would never admit it, but I knew about it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but I also did. I was told more than a
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  Speaker 2: week and a half in advance, it was, I was
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: told at least like three months in advance.
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  Speaker 3: I still went, yeah, I mean, it's there's no harm
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  Speaker 3: in going, and you got invited, go have some fun.
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  Speaker 3: But you know that, like you're not you were.
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And Luke and Larela. I so, Luke is still really standoffish.
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: I feel like I erased this from my brain while watching.
• 14:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so in the beginning or not at the beginning,
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: but early in the episode, Laurlai works up the courage
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: to come into the diner while and Y were having breakfast. Yeah,
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: and then she and the whole exchange with her and
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: Luke I thought was odd, like she's she's trying to
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: be friendly. We find out that she wrote him a
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: note of apology. He says he read the note, but
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: he's still like not interested in like being friendly again.
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: And I just thought that was interesting. It was kind
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: of an awkward scene.
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: I thought, definitely awkward but weirdly, I think I think
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: that I didn't really blame Luke in this moment.
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: No, I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's with.
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  Speaker 2: Him why he felt that, I mean, his family, Like
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: you know, she said all that stuff about his nephew.
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  Speaker 3: Right and about him, like, yeah, fully blamed him, which
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: was completely inappropriate, and I totally get how hurt he was.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the guy's just trying.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it just was weird to me though, when she
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: was like she was trying to to kind of reach
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  Speaker 3: out to him, and she's like, I want Luke back,
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: and he's he was saying, he's standing right here, like obviously,
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: I don't know, I it just was I just thought
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: the dialogue was weird.
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I just thought that was kind of a weird scene
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: and then we that was the last we saw of
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: them together.
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: For the Yeah, so Amy wrote this, but and also
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: John Stevens, who I'm not sure what other episodes he wrote.
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: But I don't know, you're right because the dialogue also
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: that dialogue.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: Was weird and not about you. But I kind of was.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: A little cringey at the Rory and Dean dialogue with
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: the Pancakes. Yes, like just yeah, sounds that I was like,
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: why are we I don't know, it felt odd, It was.
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: A little odd. It was a little drawn out, and
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: why why would Rory order eggs if she wanted pancakes?
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: What was even the point she could ask for both
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: if she really wanted.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: Exactly, Luke's gonna give her whatever she wants.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: Or she would pick off of Dean's plate, Like yeah,
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know. It felt very like a little out
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: of place at that whole diner scene basically like that. Yeah,
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: but it was so early on. I honestly forgot about it.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: So much more happens, Yeah exactly. That was not the
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: highlight of the episode. But also, like to go back
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: and watch the root of how Oi with the Poodles
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: already are was formed was really funny because I forgot
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: like why it even came, like why it was a phrase.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: Right, and and in the in the plot, it was
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: a completely insignificant moment, like it had nothing. It wasn't
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: anything to the rest of the episode, Like it was
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: so insignificant, and yet it became in the fandom, it
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: became like this huge.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: I wonder why I know, because for me it was
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: just like a funny joke and I was like huhh
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: and then like, well, obviously I knew it was a
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: big deal, but like you know, it is, it didn't
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: stand out to me as like a highlight moment unless
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: does it? Does she say it again in the series?
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: That was it?
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah? So it's funny, like you don't know like what
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: people like, what people are gonna latch onto. But yeah.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: The one thing that I didn't get and I didn't
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: look up the pop culture moment and this is, I
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: guess a question for pop culture.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: But the Jody.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: Uh the part about the letters and Jody, Oh my god,
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Jody Foster. Jodi Foster, What is the pop culture reference there?
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: I didn't I didn't get to look it up.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: I don't remember the dialogue in that scene. But Jody Foster,
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: the guy that attempted to assassinate President Reagan, was trying
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: to impress Jody Foster. That was why he didn't and
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: they found that out via letters that he had written.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: So I think the insinuation they were making in that
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: scene was that Luke was crazy for letting Jess come
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: to town. And that's because it was in that scene.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: It was in the scene where Jess comes back to right.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: You're right, yeah, yeah, And.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: So Luke was saying, you know, everybody thought I was
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: crazy for letting you come back, which or for letting
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: you move here in the first place. So that's why
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: he was saying he should be writing letters to Jodie
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: Foster because he's crazy.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: By the way, I just I actually did just google it.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: I didn't know.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: I didn't do it last time when I was watching
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: in bed, but it says Luke references John Hinckley Junior,
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: a college dropout from a wealthy family who attempted to
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: assassinate President Ronald Reagan.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: You're correct.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Hinckley was reported seeking fame in a misguided effort to
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: impress actress Jody Foster, who with whom he had had
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: been obsessed with since nineteen sixty seven's film Taxi Driver.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Foster plays a sexually traffic twelve year old child in
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: the film as the start of protagonist plots to assassinate
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: a presidential candidate based on a true story. Yes, yeah,
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: I like was watching it and then I was like
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Jodie Foster, and then I kind of like.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Forgot to look at it. I like Jodie Foster as
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: an actress. But I just didn't kind of yeah.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: And see, I am old enough to remember when that happened,
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: so I didn't even have to look.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: At Yeah, my bad, I did not.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: I mean I was in fifth grade when that happened,
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: so it's not like I was an adult. Yeah, I
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: very clearly remember that assassination attempt.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, listen, I was in third grade when nine
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: to eleven happened. I clearly remember that. So there's things
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: that you remember as a kid exactly exactly.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Uh no, no clown pillow, No clown pillow. But I
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: saw Maxine, Yes, Maxine was.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: There was a lot of extra crap in their house
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: in this episode, was there not?
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: I just felt like there was more stuff.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: Maybe maybe I wasn't paying attention.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I like looked and I was like,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: just because there was a lot happening.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: I did like the The one part I did like
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: that had to do with Christopher kind of is when
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Suki was panicking m about the cake and then yes, Laurel,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: I just uses her what happened to like derail Suki
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: and she just like forgets about everything.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was that was.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: That was the one part where I was like you
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: know what that was worked for the plot.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, And I'm glad that we got that scene
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: because that was the only time we got to see
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: Suki in her dress because they didn't show the wedding.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Now, remind me, does the season three premiere start at
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: the wedding?
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: No? No, okay, no, it starts with laurelized dream.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Oh I don't remember it.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So the next episode is Lazy.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Hazy Crazy Days Days.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: So it starts with laurelized dream about Luke that she's
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: pregnant with his twins, and then it goes to their
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: summer town festival thing. And because Rory is in DC, she's.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: In d C right for the that boiler alert.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like literally like twenty three years later she goes
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: to DC.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: Exactly. So yeah, so that's all we saw of the wedding.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: It's also, can I say, it's so nice to be
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: watching this in Fall right now? Yes?
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: Totally.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: I feel like I'm actually in the mood, Like I
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: got a pumpkin spice latte the other day and then
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: it was the first day a Fall a couple days ago,
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, see, I mean the episode we're gonna watch a
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: Summer episode next week. So it's kind of not fall,
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: but just yeah, it's just there's just a lot of
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: Gilmore around right now.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Which, don't worry, in like three weeks it'll be their
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: fall again.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Summer will quickly go to Halloween exactly.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: And then speaking of Soupki's wedding, which we didn't see
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: the actual wedding, but did you notice in the very
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: last scene where Laurela and Rory are walking towards the wedding,
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: did you notice they had the hoopa that Luke ray.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I did actually.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: That it was cool. It was nice to see it again.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: I know, it took me a second because I like
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: didn't I guess I didn't realize it was the same one. Hmm.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: I was just like, oh okay, and then I yeah, yeah.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: Because there was a close up. I forget exactly what
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: the action was, but there was a scene where they
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: like walk past it or near it, and you could
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: see the goat that Luke oh, Gilbert the goat bunny
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: and then there is so this episode also has a
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: deleted scene.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: It does it does.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: It's kind of a nothing scene, and so it makes
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: sense that they took it out because it's kind of hokey.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: But it takes place right after the scene where Rory
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: goes in to get her cast removed and Christopher shows
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: up at the doctor's office right after that, and it
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: shows them. I don't know if you noticed in the
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: episode the way it is on Netflix, when they come
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: out of the doctor's office and they're walking away, there's
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: a weird looking windmill thing in the background behind them.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: In the deleted scene, they walk to that and it's
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: a miniature gall thing.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Oh funny, it's like.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: A single hole of miniature golf. So that's what Rory
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: wanted to do with her cast taken off, because they
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: were like, oh, what do you want to do now
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: that cast he's gone, And she's like, I want to
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: go play miniature golf. So they walked to this weird
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: minister golf thing and she takes one swing and she's like, Okay,
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: I'm done. So it was kind of it didn't like
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: contribute to the story, and it was kind of a
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: nothing thing. But right you we're watching it on Netflix
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: and you're like, what is that weird windmill thing in
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: the background. That that's why it was there because they.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Tell, oh my god, our producer Jackie just sent us the.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Link and I clicked it because I had no idea.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: What's funny is the wind meal is literally just set
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: up in stars hollow.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: Right, Like it's just on the sidewalk.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: It's just literally like probably by where like the like
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: the music shop is.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: It's next to the church.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Oh, next to the church.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, it's right past kids in that corner secret bar.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah it's back in that corner.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: But it literally is in stars. That is so funny.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Also, I was thinking, going back to annoying Christopher, like
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: why do you show up for the cast removal out
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: of all things?
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: Because that's just how he is. He just shows up
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: and everybody's supposed to be excited to see him.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know, to be honest, Like as someone who
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: got a cast removed a year ago, the removal was like,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: oh thank God, like this is over, you know, like
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: then it was just starting. I mean again for my ankle,
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: it's totally different because then I had to start walking
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: on my own physical therapy. But like who cares.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: I know it was it was dumb, and I guess they,
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, they needed a vehicle to get Lorla to
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: invite him to the rehearsal dinner, I guess, but it
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: was dumb and he's like trying to joke around with
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: the doctor and he.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Just he just I think it would have like, yeah,
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: that's all, Like it was annoying. I actually would have
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: preferred if he's like, hey, heard you're getting your cast
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: off today.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Can I take you to lunch after? Yeah?
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: I would have actually liked that a little would have
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: made a little more sense. Yeah, like let's celebrate, let's
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: go to lunch, you know.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. And then you hear him like
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: you could hear him in the hallway, yeah, or he
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: walked in and he's like talking to the staff and
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: he's like, which room is it? Is it this room?
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Like it was At first, I was like, this is
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: a very Emily Gilmour moment in the hospital, you know.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Anyway, well, do we have anything else?
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: I so I have a callback to a previous episode
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: be discussed if you don't mind. So back season one,
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: episode thirteen, which I don't have the name in front
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: of me right now, but oh, it was the Bengals episode.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, so it was.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: It was the.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: Episode where stars Hall was having their rummage sale, and
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: in the beginning of the episode, there's a point where
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: Lane picks up a picture of a kitten in a toilet.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: And when you and I recapped it, you know, whenever
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: we did it a couple months ago, Yeah, it looked
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: to me when I watched it, it looked to me
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: like the image of the cat was digitally replaced.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Right which I'm looking at.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: And we put it on social media and a lot
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: of people some people could see it, but a lot
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: of people were like, I don't see anything. So last
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: week I was doom scrolling on Facebook and somebody posted
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: I can't even remember where I saw it. It was
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: in some Girlmore Girls group.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Huh.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: Somebody posted that on Hulu. They show a different picture in.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: That scene on Hulu.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so Hulu and Netflix and the DVDs are different.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: So the DVD has what Netflix has, Okay, but if
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: you watch it on Netflix, it's a different picture.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: And so I, what's the original on Netflix?
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: I know, I think the original is whatever Hulu has
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: because it was on Netflix that it looked replaced to me.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Oh wait, sorry, and that you texted us which one
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: is Hulu and which one's Netflix.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: We The bottom one is Hulu okay, with the wooden
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: toilet seat that says mom said there'd be days like this. Yes,
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: that's the one that I think was replaced because the
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: top one with the two kittens, that's the one that
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: looks fake when you're watching it. You know.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: I gotta say, when when we talked about this and
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: you told me, I was like, I don't see it.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Putting it side by side with this, I see it.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: And if you watch it back on Netflix and look
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: at Lane's fingers, they look weird. It looks it looks like, ah,
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: I got her fingers are See her fingers are weird.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Her fingers are weird. Look those are her fingers.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: And you can really see it in the video like
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: I just grab screenshots.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: No literally, her.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Her thumb is straight in the original, yeah, and then
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: in the in the other one, her thumb.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Is curved.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: So I just had to I just had to throw
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: that out there because I felt vindicated because so many
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: people were like, Suzanne, you're high. You're like, we.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Don't see half the time. I always believe you. I'm
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: just like, I found it. I believe you. I just
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: don't know what like where how.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I saw that post on Facebook and I
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: was like, oh my gosh, I was right. There's proof that.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: I was right right.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: So just a little fun throwback to that previous episode.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Well interesting, Yes, that was a very interesting one that
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: by far is the most Suzanne finding of all time.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: And I had I didn't. I didn't even get the
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: person's name that put that post, so I have to
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: give credit to that person. But they were the one
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: that noticed on Hulu that well.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Technically you noticed too, so we gotta give use some
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: credit because I just was like, oh, whatever, it doesn't
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: look digital, but sure.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Why like it was there had to be a copyright
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: to that image.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: It must have been. Yeah, I wonder if like they
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: aired it and then whoever owns it?
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm thinking of like we just for some
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: stuff we've done, like for work on our end. Someone
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: would be like, there was like a shirt that had
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: like a pattern on it. It wasn't even like it was
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: just like a pattern, not a picture, And they were like,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: does the company of that shirt have give us the
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: rights to use this in a video?
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: And I was like what, So, I'm sure it was
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: some rights thing. It has to be Yeah.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Well, next week we'll be talking about season three, Episode one,
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Hazy mmm, lazy hazy crazy Days.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: I love this episode, so it's gonna be fun.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: We'll be a good one. More Jess, Team Jess. Sorry, Dean, that's.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: Right, and h and Shane. This is where we're gonna
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: meet Shane.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Oh all right, we're one step closer to the Dance,
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: which is honestly one of my favorite episodes of all time.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: So right, we'll see you next week meeting adjourned.
• 30:12
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• 30:15
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• 30:20
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