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The Sleeper Agent The Rise Of Lyme Disease From AW Finnegan · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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  Speaker 1: How are you today?
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  Speaker 2: I'm good man.
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  Speaker 1: I have been waiting to share a conversation with you
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  Speaker 1: because you speak a language here that is still one
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  Speaker 1: of the greatest mysteries on this planet. And I'm hoping
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  Speaker 1: that you can share your experiences with us. Beacause I
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  Speaker 1: live in a forest. We all assume that lime disease
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  Speaker 1: comes from deer and deer only, So I'm gonna start
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  Speaker 1: with that, right there. Is it all about the deer
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  Speaker 1: or is there something out here in these trees that
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  Speaker 1: we don't know about?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's deer ticks ticks.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Actually it's carried by birds. Uh, it's carried yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: And I actually think that it came from a birdlined
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  Speaker 3: that Eric Trauve was in possession of in nineteen thirty nine.
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  Speaker 2: And it's carried by birds.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's carried I mean, it's basically carried by all
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  Speaker 3: the land animals and all all the uh and the birds.
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  Speaker 1: That scares the Bajibi's at me because I do maintain
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  Speaker 1: a forest here in South Charlotte, North Carolina. I am
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  Speaker 1: that guy that'll go pick up a dead bird and
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  Speaker 1: bury it because I want to free it from the
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  Speaker 1: evils of this modern world. And now I fear that
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  Speaker 1: maybe maybe that's why I'm constantly in pain and not
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  Speaker 1: feeling well, because I'm so drawn to this book because
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  Speaker 1: nobody can find out why I'm in pain.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh well, well there you go.
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  Speaker 4: See.
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  Speaker 5: That was one of the things that I covered in
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  Speaker 5: this was you did people can be very sick even
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  Speaker 5: even though they go in there and they go to
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  Speaker 5: the doctor and the.
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  Speaker 3: Doctor looks at all the scans, runs blood work.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, tests them for different things.
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  Speaker 3: And they can be infected even though they test negative
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  Speaker 3: because of this whole mechanism that Eric Trava had discovered
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  Speaker 3: called immune tolerance, where it's immunosuppression, it's suppressing your immune
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  Speaker 3: system so they don't make enough antibodies to test positive.
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  Speaker 4: And also you don't have the acute inflammation that you'd
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  Speaker 4: see in somebody with a heavy immune response. It's very
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  Speaker 4: it's almost nonexistent, so.
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  Speaker 2: You can feel it. And that's what happened to me.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I used to go I have permanent headaches
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  Speaker 3: that never go in, and I would go in and
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  Speaker 3: I'd say, I'd say, you know, what's going on because
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  Speaker 3: it feels like my head's being crushed.
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  Speaker 2: And they would be like, oh, we have great news.
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  Speaker 2: We don't see anything wrong with you.
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  Speaker 4: And I'd be like, well, that's not really great news
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  Speaker 4: because my head doesn't. You know, my head feels like
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  Speaker 4: it's being crushed, and you're telling me it's fine.
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  Speaker 1: So are you like me? Then you're popping those pills
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  Speaker 1: that come over the counter left and right, and the
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  Speaker 1: doctor looks at you and says, well, you just screwed
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  Speaker 1: up your liver. You got to figure this out, dude.
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  Speaker 1: You either have to learn how to manage your pain
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  Speaker 1: or you got because you ain't going back to those pills.
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  Speaker 1: What about you?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: No, I mean I take herbal supplements and sue I
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  Speaker 3: don't take any prescription.
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  Speaker 2: I used to back in the day, but I don't anymore.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I kind of it is.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, uh, you've got to balance things out because
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  Speaker 3: even I mean even some of the herbs can be
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  Speaker 3: harmful to your liver, you know, so definitely, I uh,
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  Speaker 3: I just basically try to stay.
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  Speaker 2: As active as I can and eat the best.
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  Speaker 4: That I can.
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  Speaker 2: And there are different things.
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  Speaker 3: I know there's somebody that I know from Japan who's
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  Speaker 3: doing some really important work.
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  Speaker 7: Man reverse some of these time being.
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  Speaker 2: And I hope that continues. His name is Kevin mccam
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  Speaker 2: and he's been doing.
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  Speaker 7: Something called a plasma for reasons that shelters the blood
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  Speaker 7: through a special process and integrates with stem cell growth
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  Speaker 7: factors and he's been having some great results on that.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, that's just something that shouldn't be
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  Speaker 3: available to everybody.
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  Speaker 1: See, And that's how important this journey is for you.
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  Speaker 1: I am so sorry that you have gone through so
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  Speaker 1: much pain, But do you realize how many lives are
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  Speaker 1: going to change on this side of it now that
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  Speaker 1: you've released this book, Because first of all, we're learning
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  Speaker 1: a lot about about Eric Traub. We're now learning about
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  Speaker 1: the man that you're just talking about with all the
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  Speaker 1: different tests, because so many of us are out here,
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  Speaker 1: we all think that we have fiber moralesy or whatever
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  Speaker 1: it is, and then we all think we've got that,
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  Speaker 1: and even doctors will look at that and go, well,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. It could take years before we discover
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  Speaker 1: it in you. And it's and we got someone like
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  Speaker 1: you who's finally said I put a book together. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: it was painful that I had to go through this,
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  Speaker 1: but you gotta know.
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  Speaker 2: M absolutely yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean it was the catalyst for me getting sick
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  Speaker 3: into writing this book.
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  Speaker 2: So I guess that's how it had to happen, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm strong enough to handle it. I deal with
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  Speaker 2: it every day.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, this is something where I discovered why all
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  Speaker 3: of these stealth diseases exist and how people who.
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  Speaker 2: Are who look fine and all.
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  Speaker 3: Of their blood work comes back fine, can actually be
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  Speaker 3: infected even though they're testing negative for things.
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  Speaker 1: Please do not move. There's more with aw Fin again
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  Speaker 1: coming up next, the name of the book The Sleeper Agent,
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  Speaker 1: The Rise of Lime Disease. We are back with aw
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  Speaker 1: Fin again. How is it such a ghost though? Why
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  Speaker 1: is it that we can't you know pinpoint this thing.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's like the great mystery of nature
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  Speaker 1: biting Italian into a human.
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  Speaker 8: Well, I think I think what it is is that
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  Speaker 8: they are using well they're using outgated testing, right, and
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  Speaker 8: they're not It's like they're specifically trying.
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  Speaker 2: Not to find this. I mean, I don't know, I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I try not to think that way.
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  Speaker 3: But then when I start seeing how they were meeting
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  Speaker 3: in the seventies and then all the way in twenty twelve,
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  Speaker 3: they were talking about using disease tolerance as a defense strategy,
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  Speaker 3: which shows me that they're looking at as an acceptable
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  Speaker 3: form of immunity. So they're crazy, But yeah, they had
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  Speaker 3: they had Bill Imlindigate's foundation in nih were publishing a
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  Speaker 3: paper in twenty twelve called Disease Tolerance has a Defense Strategy.
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  Speaker 1: Is this the reason why you call it a biological secret?
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  Speaker 1: Because when I when I came across that, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you you have so many things inside this book that
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  Speaker 1: are going to open the eye of so many people,
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  Speaker 1: and that's one of them that caught me off guard.
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  Speaker 1: A biological secret.
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  Speaker 9: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a stealth, stealth biological weapon. Something that that
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  Speaker 3: tires and exhausts and overwhelms over a long period of
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  Speaker 3: time where it's just kind of spreading silently for decades,
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  Speaker 3: and then you know, then we get to a point
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  Speaker 3: where we're at today, where I know so many people
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  Speaker 3: who are just so sick and worn down from these
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  Speaker 3: stealth chronic diseases, you know, the the chronic fatigue, the.
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  Speaker 2: Joint pain, the headaches, all of that.
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  Speaker 3: And that for a lot of people, it's like it's
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  Speaker 3: it's just enough just trying to get through the day,
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  Speaker 3: never mind trying to do something about this politically or
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  Speaker 3: you know, with the trying to get the public health
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  Speaker 3: system to change this. A lot of people are are
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  Speaker 3: so burned, over burned, that that's really all they can
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  Speaker 3: focus on.
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  Speaker 1: Well see, and that's one of the reasons I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to wish pain upon another human being. But those
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  Speaker 1: law makers, you know, you sit there sometimes and say,
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  Speaker 1: you know, dude, if you could walk even ten feet
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  Speaker 1: in my shoes, I guarantee you would put you would
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  Speaker 1: plant your butt on the ground and say I can't
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  Speaker 1: do it. Well, because we've learned how to do it,
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  Speaker 1: to move through the pain, to you know, to try
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  Speaker 1: to stay positive into and and to you know, to
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  Speaker 1: keep the family together in things.
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  Speaker 9: Definitely, yeah, And I mean I would also say that
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  Speaker 9: that's probably a huge factor in life. A lot of
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  Speaker 9: families don't stay together because this thing is like this,
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  Speaker 9: this divisive construct that is constantly wearing down any unity
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  Speaker 9: we have.
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  Speaker 7: Because one of the things I showed was that it
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  Speaker 7: affects the mental health of a person.
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  Speaker 10: Too, to have these stuff deliver, like so when you
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  Speaker 10: take the immune system out, there's this secondary on the plane.
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  Speaker 2: It's just a really nasty event.
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  Speaker 3: Why they thought this was a good kind of biological
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  Speaker 3: weapon that would be very destructive.
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  Speaker 2: It's just a lot slower, but.
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  Speaker 3: It's very destructive when you really take it all into considerations.
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  Speaker 2: M Mmm.
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  Speaker 1: Let me ask you this question from one author to
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  Speaker 1: another author. Both of us have have endured such a
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  Speaker 1: hardship when it comes to paid How were you able
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  Speaker 1: to type on that computer keyboard? Because I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: can go only so many minutes before I have to
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  Speaker 1: give it up. How did you do it? Please teach
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  Speaker 1: us how we can move through that.
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  Speaker 4: Now?
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  Speaker 6: I don't know because it was there was actually a
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  Speaker 6: few years where I was on the same page. It's
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  Speaker 6: been better lately the last few years. But I don't
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  Speaker 6: I don't really know how.
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  Speaker 2: To answer that.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know why I was able to
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  Speaker 4: why it kind of went away.
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  Speaker 3: But there was a time when I had just I
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  Speaker 3: could barely type.
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  Speaker 10: On the keyboard at one point. You're right, and uh
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  Speaker 10: so I don't really know how to get rid of that.
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  Speaker 10: Oh I know is I try to get out every day.
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  Speaker 10: I like BMX biking, so I try to go out
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  Speaker 10: and do that every day.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, my god, dude, oh my god.
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  Speaker 1: Where can people go to find out more about you?
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  Speaker 1: Because this is a conversation that needs to happen every day,
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  Speaker 1: not just in in something that somebody's going to pick
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  Speaker 1: up on a podcast, But we need to get the
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  Speaker 1: conversation started and hope to God it gets into the
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  Speaker 1: hands of those who can create change.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: My website is the Sleeperagent dot com and I'm also
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  Speaker 3: on substacked with the handle at aw Finnegan f I
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  Speaker 3: N N E G I N.
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  Speaker 4: And I am also at the same handle on x.
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  Speaker 2: And the same handle on YouTube.
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  Speaker 1: You got to come back to this show anytime in
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  Speaker 1: the future. I'm serious about that when I say that
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  Speaker 1: this is something that we need to be talking about
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  Speaker 1: throughout the year, and just to especially as we get
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  Speaker 1: into the fall months and things, because what or even
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  Speaker 1: as we get because this is going to serve as
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  Speaker 1: a great summer starter, but in the fall months when
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  Speaker 1: everybody thinks I can run wild and naked throughout the forest, boloney,
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  Speaker 1: those birds which I just learned about are the ones
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  Speaker 1: that are gonna bite you in the butt. Will you
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  Speaker 1: have yourself a brilliant day today? Okay, sir, know you
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  Speaker 1: bet you. Thank you so much,