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- 0:01Speaker 1: Thank you. What's up, party people? Bueno, como estas? Oh, oh, oh,
- 0:08Speaker 1: it's Mac and Bo.
- 0:09Speaker 2: This is my friend, Mac.
- 0:11Speaker 3: It's a beautiful work Wednesday, everybody.
- 0:14Speaker 2: This is my friend, T-Bone.
- 0:18Speaker 1: That crack's been exposed for decades. You guys are the best. Pony, pony, pony, pony.
- 0:24Speaker 1: They're the best. I love those guys. Y'all be sorry
- 0:26Speaker 1: you treated me this way. Mac, you can't leave the
- 0:28Speaker 1: parade and the funeral. You're listening to the Mac and
- 0:31Speaker 1: Bo Show on... Good morning, Charlotte. Welcome aboard.
- 0:44Speaker 3: It is Mack and Bone radio showtime here. We have
- 0:48Speaker 3: already made it, thanks to the short week, to Panthers
- 0:53Speaker 3: game day eve, ladies and gentlemen, a day away from
- 0:56Speaker 3: the primetime Thursday nighter, for your Carolina Panthers at Lambeau Field.
- 1:02Speaker 3: So you know that's going to be on our mind.
- 1:03Speaker 3: You know we're going to be talking about that. We
- 1:05Speaker 3: had a hell of an exhibition basketball game last night
- 1:11Speaker 3: in Chapel Hill. The Heels survive an overtime test from
- 1:16Speaker 3: the Charlotte 49ers. The fit dog was in the house.
- 1:21Speaker 3: How angry was he during the game, we will ask.
- 1:24Speaker 3: And Charlotte fans... I think y'all might have something to
- 1:28Speaker 3: be excited about. So we'll talk about that. The World
- 1:30Speaker 3: Series extended. Tampa wins in 12 innings last night. Ben Williamson,
- 1:37Speaker 3: the hero, with a walk-off single to win it. So
- 1:41Speaker 3: the Rays stay alive. They're down 3-1. My computer's on
- 1:44Speaker 3: like an idiot. And the Canes get a dub.
- 1:48Speaker 1: Of course they did. That's what they do last night
- 1:50Speaker 1: in a.
- 1:50Speaker 3: Game that was actually available on my television set.
- 1:54Speaker 1: That was kind of cool.
- 1:56Speaker 3: So anyway, we've got a lot of things to discuss.
- 1:58Speaker 1: College football stuff.
- 2:00Speaker 3: Dave Doran says goodbye to the media in a presser yesterday.
- 2:05Speaker 3: Dabo Sweeney talking about all kinds of stuff. And Bill Belichick.
- 2:10Speaker 3: mumbles his way through the goal line, the lack of
- 2:15Speaker 3: goal line cameras in the ACC. So we get a
- 2:18Speaker 3: lot of things to talk about on the show today.
- 2:20Speaker 3: Bones in the house. Fit Dog is in the house.
- 2:24Speaker 3: And unfortunately, Tampa Tammy is in the house as well.
- 2:28Speaker 1: What's up, Bone? What's happening? Good morning to you. Heads
- 2:31Speaker 1: on a swivel today. Zoki has barricaded himself down in
- 2:36Speaker 1: his office area. Tampa Tammy already uh vandalized our window
- 2:41Speaker 1: in the wee hours with a sign that says you
- 2:44Speaker 1: just got buckied with a picture of bucky irving in
- 2:47Speaker 1: the end zone so she's around here back and in
- 2:50Speaker 1: this halloween time of the year i feel like we're
- 2:53Speaker 1: living a nightmare right now we're waiting for her to
- 2:55Speaker 1: pop up anywhere today how old would you say you
- 2:58Speaker 1: think like tampa i'd never asked i guess i'm gonna
- 3:00Speaker 1: ask her today when she's screaming something at me probably
- 3:02Speaker 1: mid mid-20s maybe early mid-20s it's so.
- 3:07Speaker 3: Funny that we're all terrified of like this 24 year
- 3:11Speaker 3: old girl that works on the tv side we.
- 3:13Speaker 1: Thought about hiring uh like a mall type cop to
- 3:16Speaker 1: just hang out outside the window this is where mfg
- 3:18Speaker 1: would have came in handy by the way he would
- 3:20Speaker 1: have just stand there and put on your security outfit
- 3:23Speaker 1: he would she would have worked her way around him
- 3:25Speaker 1: but we need some resistance here yes there will be
- 3:27Speaker 1: no resistance do you have the bell he's terrified of
- 3:30Speaker 1: her he won't go out that bell over there Right
- 3:32Speaker 1: next to you? Yeah, when you see her and we
- 3:34Speaker 1: don't see her, you need to hit that thing. This
- 3:36Speaker 1: is like a tornado drill.
- 3:38Speaker 3: It's been well, and by the way, if people don't know,
- 3:39Speaker 3: Tampa Tammy is the very obnoxious female Bucs fan that
- 3:43Speaker 3: works for WBTV.
- 3:45Speaker 1: Overnight shift.
- 3:46Speaker 3: And she gets done at 7 o'clock and she'll talk
- 3:49Speaker 3: trash to us.
- 3:50Speaker 1: Hell, they could be 1 and 5 and she'll talk trash.
- 3:53Speaker 1: I've gone to were terrified about. I've gone to multiple
- 3:56Speaker 1: people and said, hey, what's going on with her? Can
- 3:59Speaker 1: you can you stop her? Can anyone stop her? Everyone's
- 4:03Speaker 1: afraid of her. No one from the from the people
- 4:05Speaker 1: on camera, off camera. She's an unstoppable. She's like Earl Campbell.
- 4:09Speaker 1: He's terrified of her. I've never seen Fitty shy away
- 4:11Speaker 1: from a trash talk battle. I couldn't get, I couldn't,
- 4:14Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think I could bribe him with
- 4:16Speaker 1: fast food to get him to go out there and
- 4:17Speaker 1: talk to her on those days. Let's not get crazy now.
- 4:19Speaker 2: She's very intimidating, Max.
- 4:21Speaker 4: She's the only person I've ever seen rattle the great,
- 4:25Speaker 4: the tall, the handsome Alex Giles. Okay.
- 4:28Speaker 1: TV anchors over there getting rattled by her.
- 4:30Speaker 5: Oh, man.
- 4:30Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 4:31Speaker 2: Okay. He triples in fear when Tame of Tammy shows up.
- 4:33Speaker 1: There was a Flag Day event outside, and she got
- 4:36Speaker 1: up in some faces out there a year ago. A
- 4:38Speaker 1: what day event? A Flag Day? Flag Day. They did
- 4:41Speaker 1: egg tosses outside and stack races. All right. Apparently, she-
- 4:46Speaker 1: She's intense. She went full Lupinella on the- She is intense.
- 4:52Speaker 3: Anyway, speaking of intense, man, I did not expect that
- 4:56Speaker 3: exhibition game bone to be that intense that late last
- 5:01Speaker 3: night as the Charlotte 49ers. Very cool thing with Wes Miller,
- 5:04Speaker 3: the former heel, now coaching the Niners. They set up
- 5:07Speaker 3: a game for Charlotte to go into the Dean Dome
- 5:09Speaker 3: final exhibition for both teams. Charlotte jumps out to a
- 5:13Speaker 3: 25-10 lead. I mean, the Tar Heels look like they
- 5:17Speaker 3: have never played basketball before. And we're realizing, because I
- 5:20Speaker 3: have not seen this version of the 49ers play, we're realizing,
- 5:27Speaker 3: holy crap.
- 5:28Speaker 1: Yeah, Wes Miller.
- 5:30Speaker 3: Has got some damn talent on this team, especially a
- 5:32Speaker 3: couple of those guards, Bone Man.
- 5:34Speaker 1: And they lost one in Jizzle James, who would have
- 5:38Speaker 1: been part of that. They get the Harris kid, Sunbelt
- 5:40Speaker 1: Player of the Year. I love that Tillery kid who
- 5:43Speaker 1: came with them from Cincinnati, but yeah. They've got some
- 5:48Speaker 1: dynamite ability there on the perimeter. They do.
- 5:51Speaker 3: There's no doubt about it. And they pushed the heels.
- 5:53Speaker 3: I mean, they led about— I don't think the heels got
- 5:56Speaker 3: back in front until the last 10 minutes or so.
- 5:59Speaker 3: And then Charlotte has a six-point lead in the final
- 6:02Speaker 3: few minutes. Stevenson hits a couple of big threes, but
- 6:06Speaker 3: they need a Chris Webber moment. The Heels need to
- 6:09Speaker 3: be Chris Webbered in order to force overtime because Charlotte
- 6:15Speaker 3: is up one. They're inbounding the ball after a Heels basket.
- 6:18Speaker 3: And they forget they don't have any timeouts. They call
- 6:21Speaker 3: a timeout. They get a technical. Of course, Brown could
- 6:24Speaker 3: not hit both free throws because that would be too
- 6:25Speaker 3: much to ask of a Tar Heel last night. But
- 6:28Speaker 3: he hit one, so it goes to overtime. And the
- 6:31Speaker 3: Heels end up kind of taking over in overtime. Bone,
- 6:35Speaker 3: big dagger by Terrence Brown, who played a hell of
- 6:38Speaker 3: a game in his exhibition.
- 6:39Speaker 1: But it was a great game, man. Great game. And
- 6:41Speaker 1: Abel didn't play, right? He was out. He was not
- 6:43Speaker 1: able to play. Exactly. I mean, you just stocked it
- 6:46Speaker 1: up alone right there. I mean, just a two-man game.
- 6:50Speaker 1: But it is interesting that I didn't look it up, Matt,
- 6:53Speaker 1: but top of my head, the Heels, the only program
- 6:56Speaker 1: ever to win a national title in an exhibition game
- 6:59Speaker 1: off the other team calling timeouts without having any. What
- 7:01Speaker 1: a distinction. What a damn distinction. I mean, there are
- 7:05Speaker 1: two ways to handle this. There's the UNC- What do
- 7:09Speaker 1: we have this year? Is there angst vibe? And then
- 7:13Speaker 1: there's the Charlotte part of this where, I mean, you
- 7:16Speaker 1: have to be, if you're a Charlotte fan, you've been
- 7:17Speaker 1: waiting for this moment for how long? Just to enter
- 7:20Speaker 1: a season with some hope, with some excitement, with the
- 7:24Speaker 1: ability to hang your hat on something like Tillery, like Harris,
- 7:28Speaker 1: like Wes Miller. picked fifth Mac in the American, which
- 7:32Speaker 1: is a lot higher than normal. So there's some hype
- 7:35Speaker 1: here and I can't wait to see what Wes Miller does.
- 7:38Speaker 1: Cause I think he's going to be the biggest hope
- 7:41Speaker 1: they have really since Bobby Lutz has been there.
- 7:44Speaker 3: And that's, that is a, that's a long time. Big time.
- 7:47Speaker 3: I'm not trying to trigger Fitty and the Tar Heel
- 7:49Speaker 3: fans today. That's one thing. But I just found myself
- 7:52Speaker 3: excited for Charlotte. Hell yeah. It has been literally 21 years, right?
- 7:58Speaker 3: Since they've been to the postseason.
- 7:59Speaker 1: Not since I've... It was before I got to radio.
- 8:02Speaker 1: Your first year.
- 8:03Speaker 3: It was our first basketball season here, where they went
- 8:05Speaker 3: to the NCAA tournament.
- 8:06Speaker 1: So.
- 8:07Speaker 3: I just want Charlotte fans to be engaged. I want
- 8:09Speaker 3: something exciting over there at Halton. And it feels like
- 8:13Speaker 3: they have a chance to do it. This kid, Keyshawn Tillery,
- 8:16Speaker 3: who came with Wes Miller from Cincy. So this kid's
- 8:19Speaker 3: played Big 12 basketball. So this ain't going to be
- 8:22Speaker 3: too big for him to go into Carolina. And he
- 8:25Speaker 3: had 24 points, was on fire from three early in
- 8:28Speaker 3: this game. You mentioned Chase Harris. Chase with a Z.
- 8:32Speaker 3: I love this name, Boney. I wish my name.
- 8:35Speaker 1: Had a Z. Trav is... Trav is... No, nothing. You'd
- 8:40Speaker 1: be Trazus then, I feel like. Oh, yeah, you're right.
- 8:44Speaker 1: Never mind. I completely botched that one there.
- 8:46Speaker 3: Dude, he's... Harris is a dog, dude. Six of seven
- 8:49Speaker 3: from the floor, getting tough buckets inside. I felt like
- 8:52Speaker 3: Carolina really clamped down late and in the overtime, though, defensively.
- 8:58Speaker 3: But it's like, hopefully Charlotte fans... Watched it. It was
- 9:03Speaker 3: on ESPN +. I know some very small amount of
- 9:07Speaker 3: Charlotte fans I saw behind the bench. Our guy AC
- 9:09Speaker 3: was there, and he seemed, based on the text he
- 9:12Speaker 3: was sending me, pretty damn pumped about the way they
- 9:14Speaker 3: were playing. And the Tar Heels, man, they got work going.
- 9:18Speaker 3: I'm not saying there's not talent there, but they got
- 9:20Speaker 3: work to do.
- 9:21Speaker 1: I have some questions for Fitty based off what we've
- 9:24Speaker 1: seen so far. Obviously, rebounding has been a problem. It
- 9:27Speaker 1: was against Indiana. They were doubled up on the offensive
- 9:30Speaker 1: glass last night. But I look at the overall, what's
- 9:33Speaker 1: the Cameron Fed status? Because I look at the overall
- 9:36Speaker 1: depth of this team, especially up front. I mean, obviously,
- 9:41Speaker 1: you've got a nice freshman there that did a good
- 9:43Speaker 1: job last night. What's the depth like here? on the
- 9:47Speaker 1: bench in terms of the big guys.
- 9:49Speaker 2: Not what it needs to be.
- 9:51Speaker 1: That would be my biggest concern.
- 9:52Speaker 4: Not what you expect the North Carolina front court to be.
- 9:56Speaker 4: Malone said in the postgame he's still ineligible. They're still
- 9:59Speaker 4: fighting for it. him. They believe in his case as
- 10:01Speaker 4: compared to other players that have been granted the fifth
- 10:03Speaker 4: year to play college basketball.
- 10:05Speaker 1: Is he in the courts right now? Is that what's
- 10:06Speaker 1: going on?
- 10:07Speaker 2: Yeah, he needs a ruling.
- 10:10Speaker 1: You better find a Tar Heel judge.
- 10:12Speaker 4: But, I mean, first things first, just credit to Wes
- 10:16Speaker 4: Miller and the way that Charlotte competed. For the game
- 10:19Speaker 4: to not matter, the game mattered more to Charlotte than
- 10:22Speaker 4: it mattered to our group. And that's something that needs
- 10:25Speaker 4: to be fixed. It needs to be fixed really quickly.
- 10:27Speaker 4: Michael Malone has coached three games. He's had to call
- 10:30Speaker 4: timeouts in the first half and all three because his
- 10:32Speaker 4: team commits stupid.
- 10:33Speaker 2: Turnovers and they'll run back on defense.
- 10:35Speaker 1: Horrible starts to these games.
- 10:37Speaker 2: So there's that.
- 10:39Speaker 4: Mack, they had multiple possessions last night against Charlotte where
- 10:46Speaker 4: they were giving up three, four offensive rebounds.
- 10:50Speaker 2: It made sense against Indiana. They have two seven-footers on
- 10:53Speaker 2: the floor at the same time. That shouldn't happen.
- 10:57Speaker 4: And it's going to happen routinely because we're not big,
- 11:02Speaker 4: we're not strong, and there's not a commitment one through
- 11:05Speaker 4: five to go get the ball. But that's very low
- 11:09Speaker 4: on the top of their issues. Mack, if they commit
- 11:13Speaker 4: these types of turnovers for six months, Michael Malone will
- 11:17Speaker 4: be in the hospital.
- 11:19Speaker 1: The psych ward, potentially.
- 11:21Speaker 4: The stress on that man's face. in a preseason exhibition
- 11:25Speaker 4: last night, was appalling. Now it's refreshing that there's accountability.
- 11:30Speaker 3: I wonder what the stress on your face looked like.
- 11:33Speaker 3: I would have paid money for a Fitty and Flounder camp.
- 11:35Speaker 3: Fitty and Flounder were in a house. I would have
- 11:37Speaker 3: paid money for a Fitty and Flounder camp. I got
- 11:40Speaker 3: an early update sent to my phone of... Someone in
- 11:43Speaker 3: the row behind you that said you were all over
- 11:45Speaker 3: a Jersey Mike sub in the game.
- 11:47Speaker 1: Is that true? That is correct.
- 11:49Speaker 4: He was stressing last night. Shout out, Carolina. That was
- 11:53Speaker 4: the media meal last night.
- 11:54Speaker 2: I actually had oil and vinegar on my sub for
- 11:57Speaker 2: the first time. Might have to add that moving forward.
- 11:59Speaker 5: Game changer.
- 11:59Speaker 2: Wow, look at you.
- 12:00Speaker 1: Welcome aboard. Charlotte reporter Cam Williams was a seat behind you.
- 12:04Speaker 2: Oh, man, we sat together in the postgame.
- 12:07Speaker 1: Look at you guys bonding.
- 12:08Speaker 2: We were talking.
- 12:09Speaker 1: Look at you guys bonding. And then, Mac. He said
- 12:11Speaker 1: to me that if Sharwood wins, he's going to come
- 12:14Speaker 1: on the show today and get up in your girl.
- 12:16Speaker 4: I mean, I would have let him. And then at
- 12:17Speaker 4: some point, I got to tell you what happened to
- 12:18Speaker 4: me and Flounder after the game. All-time story for us. Mac,
- 12:23Speaker 4: this team was picked to finish fifth in the ACC.
- 12:25Speaker 4: That might be too high.
- 12:27Speaker 1: I don't mean to be that guy.
- 12:29Speaker 4: I don't know what they're good at. I don't know
- 12:32Speaker 4: what they do good. outside of turn the ball over,
- 12:35Speaker 4: miss free throws, and not rebound the damn ball.
- 12:37Speaker 3: I think you covered it. How about these stats from
- 12:39Speaker 3: a rebounding standpoint, Bone? Sayon Keita, their big dude, starting freshman,
- 12:45Speaker 3: this dude played 33 minutes and had two rebounds. Jaron Stevenson,
- 12:50Speaker 3: two rebounds in 38 minutes.
- 12:52Speaker 2: And Malone called them out in the postgame for that?
- 12:54Speaker 1: He did.
- 12:54Speaker 5: Refreshing.
- 12:55Speaker 1: He did. Refreshing.
- 12:56Speaker 3: Meanwhile, who's the other big? Sam Maduro actually made some
- 13:00Speaker 3: really good plays with steals and buckets. He looks really awkward,
- 13:03Speaker 3: by the way. He had one rebound. So anyway, that's
- 13:06Speaker 3: five boards from those three big players. Your point guard,
- 13:11Speaker 3: Neo Abdalas, had nine.
- 13:14Speaker 4: By the way, Newell Abdallah does not need to be
- 13:15Speaker 4: the point guard anymore. I know Malone's experimenting, wanting to
- 13:19Speaker 4: take the ball out of Terrence Brown's hands. It looks
- 13:22Speaker 4: cleaner when the ball is in Terrence Brown's hands. His
- 13:26Speaker 4: ability to get to the rim... and generate looks at
- 13:30Speaker 4: the rim with how quick.
- 13:30Speaker 2: He is in his moves.
- 13:31Speaker 1: He was attacking last night.
- 13:32Speaker 4: I don't need to see Neo Abdalas in his passive, pansy,
- 13:37Speaker 4: non-decision-making ass.
- 13:38Speaker 2: Trying to win my offense.
- 13:39Speaker 1: Here we go. Here's the problem. Neo had 16-9-5 last night.
- 13:43Speaker 1: It looked like he was terrible. I don't know how.
- 13:47Speaker 2: I don't know how.
- 13:48Speaker 1: Can I make one more note here, Mac, on Charlotte
- 13:51Speaker 1: and their roster? As we try to get to know
- 13:53Speaker 1: all these players and where they came from, and it
- 13:56Speaker 1: can take a little bit of time into a season.
- 13:58Speaker 1: So this kid, Dorian Finister, who had... Sinister Finister, baby.
- 14:02Speaker 1: He had 10 points last night. He was 0 for
- 14:05Speaker 1: 3 from 3. However, he came from Louisiana. where he
- 14:09Speaker 1: shot 44% from three last year. So keep your eye
- 14:12Speaker 1: on that guy as a three-point shooter. There you go, baby.
- 14:15Speaker 1: There you go. Sinister Finister had a hell of a
- 14:17Speaker 1: damn turnaround last night, contested too.
- 14:19Speaker 3: So Charlotte's got some talent. We'll talk about it later
- 14:22Speaker 3: on this radio show. And my God, I'm telling you, Bone,
- 14:26Speaker 3: I had so many plans if Charlotte won this game.
- 14:28Speaker 3: I apologize to Fitty right now.
- 14:30Speaker 1: Well, I don't.
- 14:31Speaker 3: And all the Tar Heel fans, I apologize. But the possibilities, Bone,
- 14:34Speaker 3: Cam Williams was going to come on, you said. How
- 14:36Speaker 3: about Walker Mayle? Walker Mayle was getting a— he was so
- 14:39Speaker 3: close to getting a tax. You want to come on
- 14:41Speaker 3: this show.
- 14:41Speaker 2: By the way— A.C.
- 14:43Speaker 3: Allen Cochran was getting ready to charge Fiddy a ton
- 14:46Speaker 3: on insurance and mock him for the game.
- 14:50Speaker 1: But how crazy is this? Even in Owasso, they still
- 14:53Speaker 1: might come on. That's true.
- 14:54Speaker 3: Because they've got hope now, man. How crazy is this?
- 14:57Speaker 3: All three games they've played, including this exhibition, have gone
- 15:00Speaker 3: to overtime. Heels have won every one of them, including
- 15:04Speaker 3: two in the NCAA tournament. They have all gone to overtime,
- 15:06Speaker 3: which is crazy.
- 15:07Speaker 2: Walker mail, by the way, fraud.
- 15:09Speaker 4: Me and Flounder offered to take him to the game,
- 15:13Speaker 4: buy his ticket, drive him, just have a good guy's
- 15:16Speaker 4: night out. He loves college basketball. We love college basketball.
- 15:20Speaker 4: He's a Charlotte grad. We're Carolina guys. And he rejected us.
- 15:24Speaker 4: He denied us. He could have been there to see
- 15:26Speaker 4: his team. Almost upset Carolina. But he chose going home
- 15:30Speaker 4: to his fish tank instead.
- 15:31Speaker 1: Well, first of all, he could watch them here in
- 15:34Speaker 1: Charlotte if he wants to. Also, it's a night off
- 15:36Speaker 1: for Walker. The guy's got a very busy Hornets week.
- 15:38Speaker 1: So he probably wanted a night off to be with
- 15:40Speaker 1: his woman.
- 15:40Speaker 2: He's got one game.
- 15:42Speaker 1: Here's something crazy. They play a lot. He's involved in
- 15:44Speaker 1: covering the team still. Yeah, podcasts. Here's the crazy thing, Bone.
- 15:48Speaker 1: Is it possible he did not want to be in
- 15:50Speaker 1: the car for all that time with Fitty? Is that possible?
- 15:55Speaker 3: That he thought, eh. A little peaceful night at the
- 15:57Speaker 3: house watching the game. I couldn't imagine that. Like, Finney's
- 16:03Speaker 3: ripping them, and it's like, Finney, you might, let the
- 16:05Speaker 3: guy get you a mirror.
- 16:07Speaker 1: He might not have wanted to hang out with this
- 16:08Speaker 1: guy in the mirror right here. Finney's always so confused. Hey, Mac,
- 16:11Speaker 1: you want to hang out this weekend? Mac says, no.
- 16:13Speaker 1: We're the problem, and it hasn't occurred to him yet. Like, damn.
- 16:17Speaker 1: Maybe they just don't want to hang out with me.
- 16:19Speaker 1: What do we do with this Fitty Flounder story? Because
- 16:21Speaker 1: I'm kind of curious what happened here. That's coming up later, baby.
- 16:23Speaker 3: We can't spoil all the fun here early on. Just
- 16:26Speaker 3: hopefully we forget about it. I do want to mention
- 16:29Speaker 3: the Canes won. The Canes won last night. I actually
- 16:32Speaker 3: got to get this up on TV, too, Bone. because
- 16:35Speaker 3: I'm too cheap to pay for Canes TV right now.
- 16:38Speaker 3: Beat Boston was also off to a great start. Two
- 16:41Speaker 3: to one, an Ajo goal, around eight minutes left, Bone,
- 16:44Speaker 3: in the third period. They then had to kill off
- 16:46Speaker 3: two power plays from Boston late in this game. There
- 16:50Speaker 3: was an amazing fight. I usually could take or leave
- 16:53Speaker 3: the fights. DeLaurier and this goon from Boston, it was
- 16:56Speaker 3: goon versus goon, and these dudes, Bone, fought. I swear
- 16:59Speaker 3: it was like a full three-minute round of boxing. It
- 17:02Speaker 3: was something, man. So anyway, the Canes, 10-2-2 now. Kachetkov
- 17:10Speaker 3: is 8-0-0 to start the season in net. And the Canes,
- 17:15Speaker 3: most points in the NHL. Can you tell, Bone, what
- 17:18Speaker 3: happens when I actually get the Canes.
- 17:19Speaker 1: On my TV? This is impressive. This is a rare
- 17:23Speaker 1: October Canes-Mac appearance here.
- 17:25Speaker 3: I'm telling you, it's the season I want to actually
- 17:27Speaker 3: watch them, and they've got this stupid Canes TV thing
- 17:30Speaker 3: going on. So anyway, that was cool. I'm not going
- 17:33Speaker 3: to claim to know near as much about the baseball game, Bone.
- 17:36Speaker 3: I fell asleep, I think, right when I went to
- 17:39Speaker 3: 10 innings at 2-2. And I've got to be honest,
- 17:41Speaker 3: I really want Milwaukee just to end the baseball season.
- 17:44Speaker 3: I just don't want to pay attention to it. But
- 17:47Speaker 3: credit to the Rays, Bone. They won it in 14
- 17:49Speaker 3: last night.
- 17:50Speaker 5: They did.
- 17:51Speaker 1: They play again today. Or 12, not 14. Feels inevitable
- 17:54Speaker 1: that Milwaukee's going to win, but the Rays survive another day.
- 17:58Speaker 1: Some great defensive plays by Chandler Simpson out there in
- 18:01Speaker 1: the left field last night. When we come back, Panthers
- 18:03Speaker 1: and Packers, both with some key players in doubt for
- 18:06Speaker 1: tomorrow night. Bryce Young talks about short weeks. I did not.
- 18:12Speaker 1: That was not intentional there. And another encouraging Panther stat.
- 18:17Speaker 1: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
- 18:43Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I feel for him. Yeah, so much. He's,
- 18:46Speaker 5: ever since I've been here, been such a big veteran
- 18:49Speaker 5: presence for us. Watching how much he battled throughout this
- 18:53Speaker 5: year to get back. Yeah, I feel for him. He's been,
- 18:57Speaker 5: even his last few days, he's been in great spirits
- 18:59Speaker 5: and he's been positive throughout the locker room. That just
- 19:03Speaker 5: speaks to his character, to the type of person he is. But, yeah,
- 19:08Speaker 5: obviously it's the worst part.
- 19:09Speaker 1: Of the game.
- 19:10Speaker 5: Those things and I'm praying for him. Yeah, I feel
- 19:14Speaker 5: for him.
- 19:15Speaker 1: There you go.
- 19:16Speaker 3: Bryce Young added to the list of people who have
- 19:18Speaker 3: voiced just the, you know, emotions they're feeling and how
- 19:23Speaker 3: bad they feel for Taylor Moten out for the season.
- 19:26Speaker 3: We'll be rehabbing after ankle surgery toward ligaments in his ankle.
- 19:30Speaker 3: The surgery's on his ankle. Then he's got a broken
- 19:34Speaker 3: bone in his leg as well.
- 19:35Speaker 1: Bone.
- 19:35Speaker 3: So that was you could see it when it happened.
- 19:38Speaker 3: And then you could see the cart coming out, obviously.
- 19:40Speaker 3: And then the reaction of everybody. That was a nasty one.
- 19:45Speaker 3: No doubt about it. Cruel world, man.
- 19:48Speaker 1: Cruel world. He just came back from the dang blood clots.
- 19:51Speaker 1: Just came back, and it's out there in meaningless moments
- 19:54Speaker 1: of a game where it's already decided, but yet that happens.
- 19:59Speaker 1: It's par for the course on a day like that.
- 20:01Speaker 3: The most annoying thing about it is I'm sitting there
- 20:04Speaker 3: watching that game, and I'm like, why is Monroe Freeling
- 20:06Speaker 3: not in for Rasheed Walker?
- 20:08Speaker 1: Why have they not put Freeling in? And that happens
- 20:11Speaker 1: because of Rasheed Walker. I started wondering there, and eventually
- 20:14Speaker 1: they did, but I started wondering, hey, get Bryce out
- 20:16Speaker 1: of there. This offensive line is breaking down. He just
- 20:18Speaker 1: took a sack. Get him out of there, please. Definitely.
- 20:21Speaker 3: And then Kenny Pickett took over, baby, on a drive
- 20:24Speaker 3: that I am shocked has not been mentioned, Bone, by Bebop.
- 20:29Speaker 1: Did Bebop tell you? There's no way he was watching.
- 20:31Speaker 1: If he knew that Kenny Pickett was connecting with Mitchell
- 20:38Speaker 1: Evans on a 30 plus yard pass and was running
- 20:40Speaker 1: for 15 yards on a play, you know what I mean?
- 20:43Speaker 1: I feel like we would have heard from him. He
- 20:44Speaker 1: would have viewed it as a rally. Kenny Pickett tried
- 20:47Speaker 1: to rally the team. Oh, we're lucky. Be very quiet.
- 20:50Speaker 3: Let's be quiet about that. All right, so we got
- 20:52Speaker 3: a lot of stuff to talk about with the Panthers.
- 20:55Speaker 3: Let's start with what upset Panther fans yesterday. That DeForest Buckner,
- 21:00Speaker 3: interior defensive lineman, available on the trade block. Panther fan,
- 21:06Speaker 3: I mentioned him yesterday as being a guy that would
- 21:08Speaker 3: make a lot of sense. I feel like Derrick Brown
- 21:11Speaker 3: could definitely use some help. It's a lot of kind
- 21:13Speaker 3: of young guys today. Bone in there with him. Fitty
- 21:16Speaker 3: brought up they, you know, they miss a guy like
- 21:18Speaker 3: A'shaun Robinson. So Panther fans seem like they were rallying
- 21:22Speaker 3: behind this. And then by the end of the day,
- 21:26Speaker 3: he was traded back to where he came from. the
- 21:29Speaker 3: San Francisco 49ers, for a fourth-round pick. What do you think, Bone?
- 21:35Speaker 3: Would you have given up? Now, his contract expires after
- 21:38Speaker 3: the season, and the Panthers would have to clear probably
- 21:41Speaker 3: like $ 7 million, $ 8 million at cap room to make
- 21:45Speaker 3: him fit. They don't really have any cap room. Were
- 21:49Speaker 3: you kind of jonesing on this one or not really?
- 21:53Speaker 1: Fourth round pick, I would say if he was signed
- 21:57Speaker 1: past this year, probably. But with the fact that you
- 22:01Speaker 1: probably weren't going to bring him back, I wouldn't think.
- 22:03Speaker 1: I would say no, probably. But it still was one
- 22:07Speaker 1: of those ones where it's like, man, it was a
- 22:09Speaker 1: good idea in theory. I did not realize he would
- 22:13Speaker 1: go that quickly. Quentin Nelson also went. from the Colts
- 22:16Speaker 1: yesterday to Seattle. For a third and a fifth. It's enticing,
- 22:20Speaker 1: but I would probably lean no on that. We do
- 22:22Speaker 1: have two first-round picks next year. That's an interesting part.
- 22:25Speaker 1: Fourth-round picks?
- 22:25Speaker 3: Fourth-round picks. That's an interesting part of this conversation. We
- 22:28Speaker 3: have one from the Thielen trade. Yeah, so that's an
- 22:30Speaker 3: interesting part of this conversation. You got two of them,
- 22:33Speaker 3: you know? And again, I don't know. There were rumors
- 22:36Speaker 3: last week that he was headed back to San Francisco,
- 22:39Speaker 3: so it might have been something, Bone, that the teams
- 22:41Speaker 3: were in contact, and it's like... The Niners said, we'll
- 22:44Speaker 3: give you what you want.
- 22:44Speaker 1: It was done.
- 22:45Speaker 3: I'm sure Buckner wants to go back. He's a West
- 22:48Speaker 3: Coast guy, played out there. This town's not big enough
- 22:51Speaker 3: for more than one Buckner, I'm going to say right now.
- 22:54Speaker 3: Both the same position, too, man. That's why DeForest said,
- 22:58Speaker 3: I can't live up to that legacy. Shout out, Breslin Buckner.
- 23:01Speaker 3: That's definitely it. But the Colts will still be selling more.
- 23:05Speaker 3: Grover Stewart's another interior D lineman. He'll come cheaper. Then
- 23:09Speaker 3: DeForest Buckner, he's kind of a run stuffer. And I
- 23:11Speaker 3: don't know if you noticed, Bone, we might be able
- 23:13Speaker 3: to use a run stuffer.
- 23:14Speaker 1: Oh, I haven't noticed.
- 23:15Speaker 3: So anyway, we'll see what happens. Trade deadline inside two
- 23:19Speaker 3: weeks away. So that one's one like if they would
- 23:23Speaker 3: have pulled the trade, I would have understood. I would
- 23:25Speaker 3: have liked it. But I'm not going to get on
- 23:27Speaker 3: here and scream that they didn't do it. There's also
- 23:29Speaker 3: the angle, too, of the Panthers honestly looking at this
- 23:33Speaker 3: like the Niners and Seahawks traded for these in these
- 23:36Speaker 3: linemen right from from the Colts yesterday.
- 23:39Speaker 1: What are they trying to do? Win a Super Bowl.
- 23:41Speaker 1: They are in it to win it right now.
- 23:44Speaker 3: If the Panthers look at it honestly, do you think
- 23:46Speaker 3: they think they're winning a Super Bowl this year?
- 23:49Speaker 1: Getting to a Super Bowl this year? I would probably
- 23:51Speaker 1: guess no.
- 23:52Speaker 3: So maybe that's probably part of the thinking there as well.
- 23:56Speaker 1: They're in their own little arms race out there, those
- 24:00Speaker 1: three in the West. Counting the Rams as well. They'll
- 24:04Speaker 1: do something here, I'm sure. They're at a place where
- 24:06Speaker 1: we're not.
- 24:06Speaker 3: With that said, I would like them to maybe try to,
- 24:09Speaker 3: at a cheaper cost, boost the roster before the trade deadline.
- 24:13Speaker 3: Because again, if you don't win the division, you have failed.
- 24:16Speaker 3: I don't want to act, Bone, like we're still back
- 24:19Speaker 3: playing patty cake.
- 24:20Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
- 24:21Speaker 3: Two years away from being two years away. I don't
- 24:22Speaker 3: want to act like that. If you don't win the division,
- 24:24Speaker 3: you have failed this season. even with the injuries. So
- 24:28Speaker 3: there should be some urgency, but they don't have, my
- 24:31Speaker 3: point is they don't have the same.
- 24:32Speaker 1: Urgency as those teams. Those teams are getting pieces for
- 24:36Speaker 1: the now. Can the Panthers, if they want to trade
- 24:39Speaker 1: for somebody, get someone that makes sense now? but they
- 24:43Speaker 1: also have control over for a season or two. Buckner
- 24:46Speaker 1: would be a free agent. Can they get someone that
- 24:48Speaker 1: helps now, Matt, but also is a part of their future?
- 24:51Speaker 1: That would be what I look for. Yeah, now that,
- 24:53Speaker 1: the price is, you know what I mean? The price
- 24:55Speaker 1: will be affected by that, though.
- 24:56Speaker 3: The thing with these guys are, the reason a lot
- 25:00Speaker 3: of these guys are available, and you know this, Bone,
- 25:02Speaker 3: is they're veteran players, and the teams, like the Colts,
- 25:04Speaker 3: look at this and say, or the Chargers with Khalil Mack,
- 25:07Speaker 3: they look at it and say, he's not a part
- 25:09Speaker 3: of our future, his contract's up.
- 25:10Speaker 1: So let's get something for him now.
- 25:11Speaker 3: So that a lot of the guys that are the
- 25:13Speaker 3: best players that are available are in that situation. Let's
- 25:16Speaker 3: talk about the injuries though, because we're playing a ball
- 25:18Speaker 3: game tomorrow night in Lambeau and we go football team.
- 25:23Speaker 3: And we had, I don't know. Are either of these
- 25:25Speaker 3: teams are they good football team?
- 25:26Speaker 1: They're all right.
- 25:27Speaker 3: They're football teams. All right, football teams. They both maybe
- 25:30Speaker 3: should be better record-wise than they are. But anyway, Damian Lewis,
- 25:34Speaker 3: Caleb Evans, Jalen Phillips all did not practice yesterday. We
- 25:39Speaker 3: did have Jalen Coker and Bobby Brown back out there practicing,
- 25:43Speaker 3: so that is good news. And guys like Lewis, Phillips
- 25:48Speaker 3: feels kind of like a long shot. You know, getting
- 25:52Speaker 3: him back out there. We'll see what the injury report
- 25:54Speaker 3: looks like today. But Lewis and Evans deemed day-to-day by
- 25:58Speaker 3: Dave Canales and Damian Lewis especially important. And Coach talked
- 26:03Speaker 3: about those guys yesterday.
- 26:05Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, day-to-day truly just means like a lot
- 26:07Speaker 6: of testing tomorrow because we need to know. We need
- 26:09Speaker 6: to know by tomorrow if guys can move around and
- 26:12Speaker 6: do their job well. So giving two days to be
- 26:15Speaker 6: able to fully recover today. should be advantageous for the
- 26:18Speaker 6: guys that are kind of on the bubble and almost
- 26:20Speaker 6: have a chance to really help us. So they're going
- 26:23Speaker 6: to be in there getting treated right now after meetings,
- 26:25Speaker 6: and they were doing that all morning. So it's kind
- 26:28Speaker 6: of a normal Monday, Tuesday in terms of somebody who
- 26:30Speaker 6: might be day-to-day in terms of a return to play.
- 26:33Speaker 6: And tomorrow would be the day where we would try
- 26:35Speaker 6: to test somebody and get out there.
- 26:36Speaker 1: Have you ruled anyone out yet?
- 26:38Speaker 6: Not right now.
- 26:39Speaker 1: So you haven't even ruled Phillips out yet? But Damian
- 26:43Speaker 1: Lewis is the big one. That's the one that's teetering
- 26:46Speaker 1: and we really could use. Damian Lewis' health terrifies me
- 26:50Speaker 1: based off what the offensive line is going through. Walker,
- 26:53Speaker 1: we know, Mac, that's a problem right now. Fortner hasn't
- 26:56Speaker 1: been as bad lately, but any given game. That could
- 26:59Speaker 1: be a problem. The right side right now, obviously, Moen's injury,
- 27:02Speaker 1: there's problems there. Rob Hunt has been a problem. So
- 27:06Speaker 1: Damian Lewis is the most consistent guy you can count
- 27:09Speaker 1: on right now on the offensive line. And if he's
- 27:11Speaker 1: not in there, that is just a major, major issue. Yeah,
- 27:15Speaker 1: that's the one that I'm going to stress over. No
- 27:18Speaker 1: doubt about it. This just in, I might not stress
- 27:20Speaker 1: over Caleb Evans' injury. I may not stress over that. Caleb,
- 27:24Speaker 1: it's a long season, man. Take care of yourself. Rest up, man.
- 27:28Speaker 1: Get some treatment. You've got a long time from this
- 27:31Speaker 1: game to the next game, so maybe you take a
- 27:33Speaker 1: week off. Get the tricep ready, and then we call
- 27:37Speaker 1: you back and see how you're doing. Oh, man.
- 27:41Speaker 3: All of Charlotte very concerned that Caleb gets some rest. Now,
- 27:45Speaker 3: Green Bay's got some key guys, too, that are in
- 27:47Speaker 3: the did-not-practice category this week. Matthew Golden, one of their
- 27:53Speaker 3: stud-wide receivers. has a shoulder and a foot injury. He
- 27:56Speaker 3: hasn't practiced and his status is completely up in the air.
- 28:00Speaker 3: Two interior offensive linemen, Sean Ryan, the center, Travis Glover,
- 28:05Speaker 3: the right guard, both have not practiced this week. Linebacker
- 28:09Speaker 3: Zaire Franklin, their offense in particular, if they don't have Golden,
- 28:12Speaker 3: that's huge, Boney. And if they don't have two interior guys,
- 28:16Speaker 3: that's huge for them.
- 28:18Speaker 1: The quick turnaround, Matt, can hurt you in some ways,
- 28:21Speaker 1: and it can also be beneficial because the other team
- 28:25Speaker 1: is dealing with the same thing. You wonder if it
- 28:27Speaker 1: was Sunday, are those guys more ready to go? Do
- 28:30Speaker 1: the Panthers benefit? The Golden one especially is huge because
- 28:35Speaker 1: they have both those guys that can fly. Our corners
- 28:38Speaker 1: are both out. We've got all types of problems back
- 28:41Speaker 1: there right now, especially if– The deep shots worry me
- 28:47Speaker 1: with Golden and Watson. You take one out, that'll certainly help.
- 28:50Speaker 1: You had two in there. And that's been my big
- 28:52Speaker 1: concern the whole time was not just Watson, but Golden
- 28:56Speaker 1: and both those guys flying down the sidelines and the
- 28:59Speaker 1: deep shots. That's for as big as I think Lewis
- 29:02Speaker 1: is for the Panthers. golden is equally as big for
- 29:05Speaker 1: the packers and how they would attack the panther.
- 29:06Speaker 3: Yeah that could be nice just uh you know hey
- 29:09Speaker 3: to cut that down to one by the way tucker
- 29:12Speaker 3: craft ain't no damn slouch a tight end either um
- 29:15Speaker 3: but it'll be a little.
- 29:16Speaker 1: Ticked off in this game too because this season ended
- 29:18Speaker 1: last year against the panther it did it.
- 29:20Speaker 3: Did the packers by the way offensive line has been
- 29:22Speaker 3: horrible especially run blocking. So if they lose two in
- 29:26Speaker 3: the interior, how good are the backups? How good are
- 29:28Speaker 3: the guys that play behind these dudes that can't run block?
- 29:31Speaker 7: You know?
- 29:31Speaker 3: So anyway, those are big injuries. You mentioned the Packer
- 29:35Speaker 3: game last year. Dave Canales said he has not really
- 29:38Speaker 3: brought it up with the guys. That was a different team. Uh,
- 29:41Speaker 3: but he did reflect a little bit on the meaning
- 29:45Speaker 3: of that win in green Bay. Oh, by the way,
- 29:47Speaker 3: coming off, getting routed at home by Buffalo before the game, um,
- 29:52Speaker 3: as 13 point underdogs, they got the win.
- 29:54Speaker 1: He talked about it yesterday.
- 29:56Speaker 6: Um, you really, it was, uh, to me, what was
- 29:58Speaker 6: so important about that win was it was an example
- 30:01Speaker 6: of our guys playing together and playing a style. And
- 30:04Speaker 6: there's always a way to win a game. There's always,
- 30:07Speaker 6: there's always a path. And sometimes the path is pretty
- 30:09Speaker 6: narrow and it felt like that, you know, and, and
- 30:12Speaker 6: the wind was a factor in, and it affected our passers,
- 30:16Speaker 6: like just like it affected Jordan Love. And it felt
- 30:18Speaker 6: like the team that, you know, took care of the
- 30:20Speaker 6: ball and was able to get some run game going
- 30:22Speaker 6: was going to have that game. And, but it was
- 30:25Speaker 6: just a, a great mode for us to understand, look,
- 30:29Speaker 6: we can change modes in the middle of the thing
- 30:31Speaker 6: to find a way to win. And it was a
- 30:34Speaker 6: great team win and, of course, a walk-off field goal
- 30:36Speaker 6: for Ryan, you know, in his young career was super,
- 30:39Speaker 6: you know, just critical for the respect of his teammates
- 30:42Speaker 6: and the trust factor that went into it.
- 30:44Speaker 1: Can I quote the great Julie Chen of CBS and
- 30:47Speaker 1: Big Brother? When it comes to the Panthers, expect the unexpected.
- 30:53Speaker 1: So the unexpected, the funniest thing happened yesterday. I don't
- 30:56Speaker 1: know if it's the funniest thing, but I had to
- 30:58Speaker 1: take Caitlin to the dentist office yesterday, and I got
- 31:02Speaker 1: flipped off by a woman.
- 31:03Speaker 3: I'm sorry? By a woman on the way. I was
- 31:05Speaker 3: totally in the wrong, so I deserved to be flipped off.
- 31:07Speaker 3: I thought you meant the dentist. No, that was on
- 31:10Speaker 3: the car ride there. But anyway, at the dentist.
- 31:12Speaker 1: Nervous.
- 31:13Speaker 3: A lady that worked there saw my Panther hat, started
- 31:15Speaker 3: talking about the game. Then a lady behind a desk
- 31:18Speaker 3: was at the game, and she was miserable with her five-year-old.
- 31:20Speaker 1: Son at the game.
- 31:21Speaker 3: Then a woman whose kids were also at the dentist's
- 31:23Speaker 3: office chimes in and says, you know what, though?
- 31:26Speaker 1: Tomorrow, on Thursday night.
- 31:28Speaker 3: Um uh she said the panthers could play well that
- 31:31Speaker 3: when you don't expect things from them that's when they
- 31:33Speaker 3: play their best when you have expectations for them they
- 31:36Speaker 3: let you down and i thought to myself this woman
- 31:38Speaker 3: needs a show on wfnz she completely has the panthers
- 31:42Speaker 3: nailed down to a t but uh further proof of
- 31:45Speaker 3: that bone is this stat the panthers are certain have
- 31:48Speaker 3: won uh have won against the spread 13-0 against the
- 31:52Speaker 3: spread in their last 13 games following losses. So it's
- 31:57Speaker 3: just another, like, I had the stat that they were
- 32:01Speaker 3: 8-3 after losses last year and this year. You said, hey,
- 32:05Speaker 3: 12-10 if you go back to the full Canales regime.
- 32:07Speaker 3: Here's another one. I expect a bounce-back effort. I'm not
- 32:10Speaker 3: saying they win the game necessarily right now. But I
- 32:14Speaker 3: expect a much better effort and a competitive game at
- 32:17Speaker 3: the very least.
- 32:18Speaker 1: No, I'm with you, too. I'm interested in the lady
- 32:20Speaker 1: that flipped you off situation here. I had a situation, too,
- 32:24Speaker 1: the other day. I got a big old honk the
- 32:26Speaker 1: other day from a lady. A big old honk. Yeah,
- 32:29Speaker 1: and my fault, too. I did it. My fault. A
- 32:31Speaker 1: little roundabout. I kind of went and kind of cut
- 32:33Speaker 1: this way. I thought she was going. I didn't realize
- 32:35Speaker 1: she was coming around my way in the roundabout. I
- 32:37Speaker 1: kind of did a little cut off.
- 32:38Speaker 3: Yeah, I tried to cut in front of this lady
- 32:40Speaker 3: because I didn't know the right lane was dying. And
- 32:44Speaker 3: it was supposed to be a right turn lane. And
- 32:46Speaker 3: I thought I could go straight, so I had to
- 32:48Speaker 3: try to cut in front. She literally was like, no.
- 32:50Speaker 3: She's one of those cars that's like, I see what
- 32:52Speaker 3: you're trying to do and you ain't doing it. But anyway,
- 32:54Speaker 3: I was in the wrong there.
- 32:56Speaker 1: I was in the wrong.
- 32:56Speaker 3: See, that's what this show is, accountability. All right, let's
- 33:00Speaker 3: get to Bryce Young. Speaking of accountability, very accountable Bryce Young.
- 33:04Speaker 3: And yesterday, Bryce did his presser. Everything's moved up a
- 33:10Speaker 3: little bit. Everything's off schedule, right? So he's usually Wednesday,
- 33:13Speaker 3: but he was yesterday doing a Tuesday presser. And he
- 33:16Speaker 3: asked Bone about a short week, how it can be
- 33:20Speaker 3: both annoying, but also fun to have your routine changed up.
- 33:25Speaker 5: You just kind of, keep your same process. You just
- 33:27Speaker 5: have to kind of move it up a little bit. Um,
- 33:29Speaker 5: obviously a little more from different days to kind of
- 33:32Speaker 5: add up to the same thing, but, um, yeah, it's, uh, just,
- 33:35Speaker 5: just changing logistics of all that, but still want to
- 33:38Speaker 5: making sure that, uh, you know, I'm still watching the
- 33:40Speaker 5: same amount of stuff and same conversation, still getting the
- 33:42Speaker 5: same prep.
- 33:43Speaker 8: You said nice to have a change. Do you actually
- 33:45Speaker 8: like changing your routine? That doesn't seem like you.
- 33:47Speaker 4: No.
- 33:48Speaker 5: Uh, sometimes, uh, yeah, it's like, it's annoying a little bit,
- 33:52Speaker 5: but um like just trying to find a change but
- 33:55Speaker 5: it makes it more like exciting if that makes sense
- 33:58Speaker 5: it cuts up the monotony so it's like uh yeah
- 34:00Speaker 5: it's a it was a double-edged sword i think i'm
- 34:02Speaker 5: using that phrase right um but uh it yeah it's
- 34:06Speaker 5: cool um especially through the scope of a season so
- 34:08Speaker 5: yeah grateful for the opportunity you're pretty much.
- 34:10Speaker 8: A film junkie anyway so like when it's a week
- 34:12Speaker 8: where you have to rely more on film than the
- 34:14Speaker 8: field if you had to estimate how much hours of
- 34:17Speaker 8: film are you watching.
- 34:18Speaker 5: This week same hours as normal again it's uh you
- 34:21Speaker 5: just move it to different times but you're still watching
- 34:25Speaker 5: the same amount of stuff.
- 34:26Speaker 1: There you go.
- 34:27Speaker 3: Still cramming it all in, but now just less days
- 34:30Speaker 3: to do it. So anyway, yeah, it's got to be
- 34:33Speaker 3: a pain in the ass, but the thing is, Bone,
- 34:35Speaker 3: both teams are doing it.
- 34:36Speaker 1: You know what I mean? It's not like one team is–
- 34:39Speaker 1: that wouldn't be possible. One team plays on Sunday, the
- 34:41Speaker 1: other team it's a Thursday. No, that's not– it's not
- 34:43Speaker 1: possible that both teams play at the same time. When
- 34:46Speaker 1: we come back, Dave Dorn does a goodbye presser. Dabo
- 34:50Speaker 1: defends Chad Morris. And Belichick gets really fired up talking
- 34:53Speaker 1: about goal line cameras. Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.
- 35:21Speaker 5: We've got good coaches.
- 35:24Speaker 7: Like Chad Morse. I know his name is Mud right now.
- 35:28Speaker 7: That is a really good football coach. He is a
- 35:31Speaker 7: really smart football coach. He's detailed.
- 35:36Speaker 1: He's a great collaborator.
- 35:37Speaker 5: He's a great leader.
- 35:39Speaker 7: Like, This guy knows ball. I mean, it's just– and
- 35:42Speaker 7: ain't nobody more frustrated. But I promise you, nobody will
- 35:45Speaker 7: work harder. And we're going to get there. We're going
- 35:48Speaker 7: to get there. We will get there. We may not
- 35:52Speaker 7: get to the top of the mountain this year, but
- 35:55Speaker 7: we're going to get this thing back where it needs
- 35:56Speaker 7: to be.
- 35:57Speaker 3: There you go. Dabo telling everybody, hang with them, baby.
- 36:00Speaker 3: We're going to get this done. I believe we've heard
- 36:02Speaker 3: that before. Tons of Dabo clips on social media. That
- 36:10Speaker 3: was a good one there. I know Chad Morris' name
- 36:13Speaker 3: is Mud right now. Just about everybody involved with the offense,
- 36:16Speaker 3: I believe. They're part of the Mudd family at this
- 36:19Speaker 3: point in time. That offense is stuck in the damn Mudd.
- 36:22Speaker 3: I mean, so many categories, not even the damn top 100.
- 36:25Speaker 3: The good news, Bone, is Florida State's defense. I saw
- 36:27Speaker 3: this on the ACC Network last night. Florida State's defense
- 36:30Speaker 3: has a fair amount of categories. They ain't in the
- 36:32Speaker 3: top 100 either. Clemson goes down there as six-point underdogs
- 36:35Speaker 3: on Saturday. That is interesting.
- 36:37Speaker 1: That is crazy. We are now back to the 90s, Mac,
- 36:40Speaker 1: where Clemson's going to Tallahassee as six-point underdogs.
- 36:42Speaker 3: Yeah, slightly different, but yes, I get your point on
- 36:45Speaker 3: that one. Florida State, they are team Sybil. Good luck
- 36:49Speaker 3: knowing what they're going to do. They could show up
- 36:52Speaker 3: and look like hot garbage. They could show up and
- 36:54Speaker 3: look like a team that pushed Miami and the team
- 36:56Speaker 3: that routed Virginia. Great half against Louisville and then a
- 36:59Speaker 3: horrible second half. You don't know minute to minute what
- 37:02Speaker 3: the hell they are going to do. Clemson, unfortunately, kind
- 37:05Speaker 3: of know what they're going to do on offense. which
- 37:07Speaker 3: is struggle.
- 37:08Speaker 1: Dabo called out Gideon Davidson after a rough game yesterday.
- 37:12Speaker 1: He defended his decision not to go in the portal
- 37:15Speaker 1: for a quarterback. He also kind of talked about how
- 37:18Speaker 1: he was expecting Bone to have Vizina healthy and kind
- 37:22Speaker 1: of have a veteran and a young guy together. But
- 37:25Speaker 1: then Larry Williams is like, well, is Vizina healthy now? Oh, yeah,
- 37:28Speaker 1: he's available now. And Dabo kind of made it seem
- 37:31Speaker 1: like how much better they'd be off, didn't he? But
- 37:33Speaker 1: when Vizina played... He didn't play well enough to even,
- 37:36Speaker 1: I don't think, even keep that job. You know what
- 37:38Speaker 1: I mean? We thought this guy was better than him. Whoops.
- 37:40Speaker 1: So it's just, it's... You know how, Mac, you're not
- 37:44Speaker 1: supposed to operate heavy machinery after some medications because you
- 37:48Speaker 1: get drowsy? I don't think you're supposed to operate machinery
- 37:52Speaker 1: or vehicles after watching Clemson's offense. If you watch Clemson's offense,
- 37:57Speaker 1: you have to just go to sleep immediately. They, well, respectfully, it's...
- 38:03Speaker 1: Watching Clemson play offensive football right now, if you focus
- 38:06Speaker 1: too much on it, you're going to miss all the
- 38:08Speaker 1: other games that are on because you're just going to
- 38:10Speaker 1: pass out immediately. But respectfully, though, you said that respectfully. No,
- 38:15Speaker 1: it's all respect, but they're putting me to sleep every week.
- 38:19Speaker 3: Oh, man.
- 38:19Speaker 1: All right. And I hate to see it because I'm— Respectfully.
- 38:24Speaker 1: Nothing but the utmost respect.
- 38:26Speaker 5: All right.
- 38:26Speaker 3: So let's get to the Dave Doran presser yesterday.
- 38:30Speaker 1: First of all, I just want to acknowledge this. This
- 38:31Speaker 1: is a Ron Rivera move.
- 38:33Speaker 3: This is not done bone very often at all that
- 38:37Speaker 3: a coach after being fired. wants to do a presser
- 38:40Speaker 3: and wants to talk to the media and wants to
- 38:43Speaker 3: talk to the fans and say goodbyes.
- 38:45Speaker 1: A lot of thank yous. I mean, like the first
- 38:46Speaker 1: six minutes were thank yous to like individuals, you know?
- 38:50Speaker 1: So I just want to say that about Dave Dorn.
- 38:52Speaker 3: To me, that's class. Most coaches aren't willing to do that.
- 38:56Speaker 3: And we talked about it yesterday. It really sticks out
- 38:58Speaker 3: because NC State hadn't sent a damn soul out there
- 39:01Speaker 3: to talk about it other than Todd Goble, the interim coach.
- 39:03Speaker 3: Hadn't sent an authority figure out there to say a
- 39:05Speaker 3: word to fans about why we did this and where
- 39:08Speaker 3: we're going. But anyway, let's let you hear what Dave
- 39:12Speaker 3: Doran said, Boney. A lot of interesting stuff in there.
- 39:18Speaker 3: And this is one here where he salutes the state
- 39:21Speaker 3: fans and talks about how he is a Wolfpack fan
- 39:24Speaker 3: for life.
- 39:26Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 39:26Speaker 9: I'm so deeply thankful to the fans and students that
- 39:29Speaker 9: cheered our players on. Um, when I first got here, um,
- 39:33Speaker 9: we didn't sell out. We weren't at capacity. Uh, there
- 39:37Speaker 9: was a lot of empty seats and the ones that
- 39:39Speaker 9: were there, a lot of them left early. You know,
- 39:41Speaker 9: I took a lot of heat for calling fans out
- 39:43Speaker 9: that left early, early in my career. Um, But to
- 39:47Speaker 9: your credit, that changed. And Carter family is a party, man.
- 39:50Speaker 9: It's special. And it's special because of you and your
- 39:53Speaker 9: commitment to being at the games, to cheering on the players.
- 39:56Speaker 9: And I look forward to one day being out there
- 39:58Speaker 9: tailgating with you. Because for years I've driven through that thing,
- 40:01Speaker 9: going over to the indoor for recruiting. I'm like, man,
- 40:03Speaker 9: these people are having a good time. You know, Sarah
- 40:06Speaker 9: and I will be cheering for NC State forever. I
- 40:08Speaker 9: leave here with no grudges. I completely love this place.
- 40:13Speaker 9: And we want to see this program shock the world.
- 40:15Speaker 9: I might be in the mountains somewhere, sitting in a river,
- 40:19Speaker 9: fishing or at the lake, but I'll always be cheering
- 40:22Speaker 9: for the Wolfpack. I promise you that.
- 40:24Speaker 1: That was 1,000% class. He didn't have to do that
- 40:28Speaker 1: at all. It reminds me, Mac, of when Ron Rivera
- 40:31Speaker 1: was fired. That's what I said. Yeah, when he got fired,
- 40:34Speaker 1: and he did an all-time presser. I know you're just
- 40:35Speaker 1: pointing it out again. No, I'm saying, I'm going through
- 40:38Speaker 1: my head of pressers that I remember, guys, that they
- 40:40Speaker 1: didn't have to do it. They could go move on.
- 40:42Speaker 1: It's very similar to that, to reiterate the point that, obviously,
- 40:46Speaker 1: I know you already made.
- 40:47Speaker 3: But it is, and you're right. Not every coach with
- 40:50Speaker 3: his ego is willing to get up there and do that.
- 40:53Speaker 3: And then, so first of all, he does it. Secondly,
- 40:56Speaker 3: he says, I'm a fan for life. I don't hold
- 40:59Speaker 3: any grudges. I'm rooting for y'all for life. He also said,
- 41:02Speaker 3: whoever the new coach is, I hope he accomplishes great
- 41:05Speaker 3: things and I'll be pulling for him. Again, these are things, Bone,
- 41:08Speaker 3: that a lot of these coaches, and I don't hold
- 41:10Speaker 3: it against the coaches that couldn't do this. because, I mean,
- 41:13Speaker 3: they run me out of here. Like, am I going
- 41:15Speaker 3: to sit there and say I'm rooting for the Nets?
- 41:17Speaker 3: So I think we all can understand. But I think
- 41:19Speaker 3: you just got to acknowledge Dave Dorn can have a
- 41:22Speaker 3: gruff personality at times.
- 41:23Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. But I think that's pretty
- 41:26Speaker 1: damn cool. I really do.
- 41:28Speaker 3: He also talked about NIL and how that kind of
- 41:31Speaker 3: affected State. But he also said, hey, it affected a
- 41:33Speaker 3: lot of schools, you know, that you can no longer
- 41:36Speaker 3: kind of develop because he pointed out For how many years, Bone,
- 41:40Speaker 3: were they so good about bringing kids in that were
- 41:43Speaker 3: two stars and three stars? They hit that strength program,
- 41:46Speaker 3: and they end up being NFL players when they leave.
- 41:49Speaker 3: And that development stuff is kind of out the window now, unfortunately.
- 41:53Speaker 1: Do we think that Doran's going to want to coach again,
- 41:55Speaker 1: or is he just going to want to go hang
- 41:56Speaker 1: out now? The way he was talking, it's almost like,
- 41:59Speaker 1: is he not coaching? He might need a break. He's
- 42:02Speaker 1: not going to be a media guy, I wouldn't guess.
- 42:04Speaker 1: He probably just needs a break right now, I would guess.
- 42:07Speaker 4: Doesn't he deserve a role in that department? Like, look,
- 42:13Speaker 4: I hate Dave Doran. Make no bones about it.
- 42:16Speaker 1: I wonder why. Somebody pull up the record of Dorn
- 42:19Speaker 1: against Carolina.
- 42:20Speaker 4: Pull up his record of double-digit win seasons while you're
- 42:23Speaker 4: at it.
- 42:23Speaker 3: So is that why you hate him? That he couldn't
- 42:25Speaker 3: win double digits at State? Did you roll up and
- 42:27Speaker 3: pull up his record against UNC?
- 42:28Speaker 4: It's 9-4, just like his best record was at NC State.
- 42:33Speaker 1: Hold on a minute. You're not exactly racking up 10
- 42:37Speaker 1: win seasons there.
- 42:38Speaker 9: Either, fellas.
- 42:39Speaker 2: Larry Fedora had an 11-win season.
- 42:41Speaker 1: And you love him, don't you?
- 42:43Speaker 4: Is there a better ambassador, though, for that program outside
- 42:46Speaker 4: of Phillip Rivers and Dave Doran? Like, no one embodied
- 42:49Speaker 4: the NC State way more than he did. I think
- 42:54Speaker 4: he just earned the right. Like, if he wants to
- 42:56Speaker 4: roll within that department.
- 42:57Speaker 1: Maybe he doesn't. He benched in fishing an awful lot.
- 42:59Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, maybe, like Bone said.
- 43:01Speaker 2: He benched for a double-digit-win season.
- 43:02Speaker 1: The bass fishing program. They win championships.
- 43:05Speaker 3: Fitty is, I don't even know what to do with
- 43:08Speaker 3: Fitty sometimes.
- 43:10Speaker 1: He is bashing the man. He's bashing the man. Won't
- 43:14Speaker 1: admit it's because he owned you, but then is also complimenting.
- 43:18Speaker 1: There was a lot going on there, Bone, from Fitty
- 43:21Speaker 1: in that last minute and a half.
- 43:22Speaker 2: Yes, Mac.
- 43:23Speaker 4: I hate the man because he beat my football program
- 43:25Speaker 4: nine times and.
- 43:26Speaker 2: Also called us, quote, classless pieces of bleep.
- 43:31Speaker 1: You would love it.
- 43:32Speaker 2: Am I supposed to like him?
- 43:34Speaker 1: I have an idea. You would love it if your
- 43:35Speaker 1: coach said that about the rival.
- 43:37Speaker 2: I don't need my coach to say it. I'll say
- 43:38Speaker 2: it about them on the radio.
- 43:40Speaker 1: Finney, when Belichick moves on, why don't you hire Doherty?
- 43:42Speaker 1: He's 5-1 at Kenan Stadium.
- 43:46Speaker 3: Fitty settle yourself down go try to find a rebound
- 43:49Speaker 3: for your basketball squad please.
- 43:51Speaker 4: I'm trying i was recruiting alex giles down at the
- 43:53Speaker 4: uh the canteen.
- 43:54Speaker 3: Earlier let's move to bill belichick fitty here you go
- 43:57Speaker 3: here's your your guy fitty your guy Bill Belichick, not
- 44:00Speaker 3: quite with the oomph that we set it with on Monday,
- 44:04Speaker 3: but Bill Belichick after the controversial Syracuse game winner in
- 44:09Speaker 3: overtime the other day that we still don't know if
- 44:11Speaker 3: the ball was across the goal line. Bill Belichick says
- 44:14Speaker 3: what any reasonable person says. ACC, wake up.
- 44:18Speaker 10: Well, there's really no good look at the play until
- 44:22Speaker 10: you go to the fans who have posted videos who
- 44:26Speaker 10: had a much better angle at it than, you know,
- 44:30Speaker 10: than anything you could see at the game. You know,
- 44:32Speaker 10: so the replay's up on the board, but I mean,
- 44:33Speaker 10: you can't really see anything. It's from, you know, a
- 44:36Speaker 10: mile away at midfield. So, um, you know, the ACC
- 44:40Speaker 10: doesn't have goal line cameras and I have sideline cameras, um,
- 44:44Speaker 10: like the other conferences do. And, you know, that's something
- 44:48Speaker 10: that I've always advocated. Um, when I was in the
- 44:51Speaker 10: NFL for 20 years, sideline cameras, end zone cameras, like
- 44:56Speaker 10: in tennis, put on the sideline, put on the goal line,
- 44:59Speaker 10: put on that line.
- 45:01Speaker 1: Bill, settle down, man. He's very passionate about this. It's
- 45:04Speaker 1: early in the morning to be playing that audio. It's
- 45:06Speaker 1: a no-brainer. That was the equivalent of Clemson's offense.
- 45:09Speaker 3: ACC, I know you don't have SEC and Big Ten money,
- 45:12Speaker 3: but find some damn money for these cameras.
- 45:14Speaker 1: Crap.
- 45:14Speaker 3: I said it before. I don't even care if they're
- 45:16Speaker 3: portable ones. And when a team's driving, you move it
- 45:19Speaker 3: down to that end. Then you move them down to.
- 45:20Speaker 1: The other end.
- 45:21Speaker 3: But to not have that shot at the goal line
- 45:23Speaker 3: is an absolute joke. There's no doubt about it. By
- 45:27Speaker 3: the way, Bone, a member of the Marlow Militia, now
- 45:30Speaker 3: I don't know if he's a card-carrying member or just
- 45:32Speaker 3: a member in spirit, but Tampa Bay Rays fan texted
- 45:35Speaker 3: in to say, Bone and Mack, shut the bleep up
- 45:37Speaker 3: and let Finney speak.
- 45:38Speaker 2: Wouldn't be nice.
- 45:39Speaker 1: This guy is supporting our guy here, but he said,
- 45:43Speaker 1: what's the point of having Finney, F-I-N-N-E-Y, if he gets
- 45:48Speaker 1: clowned for all his takes? If you're going to support
- 45:50Speaker 1: your guy, at least get his name right. That is
- 45:53Speaker 1: the point, actually. How do you not see the point?
- 45:55Speaker 1: We need somebody we just clown every day. Hey, hey,
- 45:58Speaker 1: I'm Bone. I was clowned also in that role for
- 46:01Speaker 1: about 15 years. Glad to be here. To write a
- 46:05Speaker 1: passage for Fit, man. Trust me, Fitty's going to be okay.
- 46:08Speaker 1: He'll survive. As long as the microphone's on and we're
- 46:10Speaker 1: talking about him, he's fine. Right, Fitty?
- 46:14Speaker 2: You figured it out.
- 46:15Speaker 3: I was going to suggest. That's when you say, okay.
- 46:17Speaker 3: First of all, go Brewers after that text, sir. I
- 46:19Speaker 3: hope they win 48 to nothing in game five. But anyway,
- 46:23Speaker 3: I was going to suggest that, hey, Fitty does get
- 46:26Speaker 3: to talk a lot. That's on his podcast. But then
- 46:28Speaker 3: I remembered, I don't think Flounder lets him speak either.
- 46:30Speaker 3: I don't think any of us let you talk, Fitty.
- 46:33Speaker 3: Our bad fitting.
- 46:34Speaker 4: My man's going to have a 15-minute soliloquy in today's podcast,
- 46:37Speaker 4: and I can't blame him.
- 46:38Speaker 1: He's going to let him go.
- 46:39Speaker 2: I felt bad for Flounder last night.
- 46:41Speaker 1: Why's that?
- 46:41Speaker 2: Because I Charlie Horsed the heck out of him.
- 46:44Speaker 1: I'm sorry?
- 46:44Speaker 4: When Kada Mack had that and one where he had
- 46:47Speaker 4: to go up high, get the ball, and he was
- 46:49Speaker 4: able to finish through contact.
- 46:50Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 46:51Speaker 2: He pushed up seven, I think.
- 46:52Speaker 1: Yeah, it was big.
- 46:52Speaker 4: I punched the ever-loving crap out of Flounder's leg.
- 46:56Speaker 1: You're a touchy seatmate, aren't you?
- 46:58Speaker 4: Oh, man.
- 46:59Speaker 1: Hate to be next to you on an airplane. All right,
- 47:02Speaker 1: we come back. We look back at what we're calling
- 47:04Speaker 1: the double boo weekend in Charlotte last week. Was it
- 47:08Speaker 1: an overreaction or was it fully deserved? Mack, Bone, Finney,
- 47:13Speaker 1: Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.