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#841 Getting on the Same Page · Dr Justin Coulson's Happy Families

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  Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families Podcast. It's the podcast for the
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  Speaker 1: time poor parent who just wants answers.
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  Speaker 2: Now, the more regular you are with it, the smaller
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  Speaker 2: and shorter it can be because it's an ongoing conversation
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  Speaker 2: as opposed to a one off.
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  Speaker 1: And now here's the stars of our show, my mom
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  Speaker 1: and Dad.
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  Speaker 3: We are so glad you're listening to the Happy Families Podcast.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you so much for joining us. I'm doctor Justin
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  Speaker 3: Coilson and I'm Kylie and today we're going to be
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  Speaker 3: answering one of the most commonly asked questions that we
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  Speaker 3: get about making your family happy, in fact, about making
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  Speaker 3: your relationship happier.
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  Speaker 2: But before we get there, I just love it when
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  Speaker 2: we get feedback and oh yes, this week we've had
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  Speaker 2: an absolute doozy coming from Bell.
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  Speaker 4: I love this email.
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  Speaker 3: High Doctor Justin Coilson, actually high doctor Justin Sorry and
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  Speaker 3: Happy Family team. I just wanted to touch base and
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  Speaker 3: offer my thanks to you.
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  Speaker 4: How Belle says this.
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  Speaker 3: I wasn't much of a podcast listener, but I started
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  Speaker 3: doing drive in, drive out work late April this year.
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  Speaker 4: I'd done a few contracts.
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  Speaker 3: But there was one that was a seven hour drive
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  Speaker 3: away from home and I got sick of my music
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  Speaker 3: on replay, so I thought I'd tried the Happy Families
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  Speaker 3: podcast and oh wow, Capital Letters, Oh wow, it made
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  Speaker 3: the trip go so quickly with the anecdotes and laughter
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  Speaker 3: it brings, along with all the parenting tips.
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  Speaker 4: And then Kylie was brought on board.
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  Speaker 2: I mean she got all of that before I came on.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, I love this. So Bell's gone right back to
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  Speaker 5: the very beginning. We get so many emails from people
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  Speaker 5: who go all the way back to the start. In fact,
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  Speaker 5: our son in law has gone back to the start
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  Speaker 5: just recently and has been listening to us from the
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  Speaker 5: very beginning. He pops up now and then, and he
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  Speaker 5: has some funny things to say about what we've been
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  Speaker 5: saying about him over the years, like before he was
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  Speaker 5: our son in law. Anyway, Belle says she started listening
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  Speaker 5: to you, Kylie. The band, to the stories, the love,
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  Speaker 5: the compassion that has.
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  Speaker 3: Shared is just beautiful to listen to. So many episodes
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  Speaker 3: to catch up on. I'm currently listening to episodes from
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty one. She's still got another two years of
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  Speaker 3: episodes to go. And then she says this, and I
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  Speaker 3: so appreciated this, she said, I must say reliving the
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  Speaker 3: pandemic and the lockdowns has not been good, but there
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  Speaker 3: are some tips that are still useful today.
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  Speaker 4: I want to share this though this.
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  Speaker 3: Was a long email, but she says, I'm mainly writing
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  Speaker 3: to say that even though I'm away from my husband
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  Speaker 3: and kids, I've been able to use some of the
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  Speaker 3: strategies with my coworkers who are struggling with some of
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  Speaker 3: the difficulties we face at work. I work in the
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  Speaker 3: aged care sector and we have some residents that struggle
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  Speaker 3: with anxiety, impulsivity, and sometimes even anger. These create big
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  Speaker 3: emotions in everyone. Emotions are contagious, right, she says, I
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  Speaker 3: must admit I felt that I got on my soapbox
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  Speaker 3: when people said things like I'm not going to help
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  Speaker 3: because they just get angry and frustrated.
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  Speaker 4: What's the point.
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  Speaker 3: I was able to talk with the carers and point
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  Speaker 3: out that we need to manage our emotions to help
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  Speaker 3: them manage theirs, and I guess to be the adult.
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  Speaker 3: It was really heartening to have so many tools that
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  Speaker 3: the podcast has taught me and see them working. I
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  Speaker 3: even did five four three to one with a resident
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  Speaker 3: who is visibly anxious and it was able to center
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  Speaker 3: them and bring them back to being okay, it goes on.
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  Speaker 3: It's just such a fabulous email. Belle just says, with
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  Speaker 3: the help of Justin, Kylie and the team, the strategies,
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  Speaker 3: from all the resources, including the podcast, we've become a
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  Speaker 3: happy family most of the time. And I can't thank
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  Speaker 3: you enough. So we just we love your emails podcasts
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  Speaker 3: at happy families dot com dot au.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you so much. Bell.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so we need to talk about today's topic because
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  Speaker 2: it's a question that we get asked time and time again.
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  Speaker 2: How do you get on the same page in parenting?
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  Speaker 3: There's so much what's the word discord, like in couples
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  Speaker 3: where somebody's really dogmatic this is how it's got to
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  Speaker 3: be done, and the other parents saying but what about
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  Speaker 3: or I don't like that, and the tension's horrible right.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and what I hear often is, you know, you've
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  Speaker 2: come from two different homes, you've come from two different
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  Speaker 2: like totally different backgrounds, and you want to do it
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  Speaker 2: the way you were raised.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, And we also kind of think that parenting
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  Speaker 5: just come naturally, like we just naturally open our mouth
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  Speaker 5: and say stuff to the kids. And that will be
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  Speaker 5: what our parenting is.
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  Speaker 3: I usually when I'm asked this, talk about the regular
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  Speaker 3: Sunday meetings that you and I have.
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  Speaker 4: We call it a couple's well, call.
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  Speaker 5: It whatever you want, a couple's inventory, couples meeting, couples connection,
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  Speaker 5: a couple of the resets, the weekly planning meeting, whatever
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  Speaker 5: you want to call it. But a lot of people
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  Speaker 5: look at me strangely, like you really have a meeting
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  Speaker 5: every week to talk about your family, and I reckon,
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  Speaker 5: this is an important thing to just bring up before
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  Speaker 5: we get into our major topic for today and how
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  Speaker 5: to address this question.
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  Speaker 3: We at work usually have to go through meetings at
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  Speaker 3: least on a weekly basis to get across everything that's
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  Speaker 3: supposed to be happening this week at work, and quite
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  Speaker 3: often we'll have like a scheduling meeting with our husband, wife, partner,
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  Speaker 3: spouse to talk about where are you going to be
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  Speaker 3: on this day? I need your help with this, that
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  Speaker 3: and the other, and so that can all go into
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  Speaker 3: the planning meeting. But here's the thing. We make plans
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  Speaker 3: for our kids' educations, We make plans for our ea time,
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  Speaker 3: and we make plans for our holidays. We make plans
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  Speaker 3: for our careers. We make plans for pretty much everything,
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  Speaker 3: our lives, house plans, whatever. And Yet if I have
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  Speaker 3: a conversation with somebody and say what is the most
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  Speaker 3: important thing in your life? Most important, top of the.
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  Speaker 4: List, everyone always says family. It's my family.
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  Speaker 3: And when I say, what's your plan for helping your
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  Speaker 3: family to thrive? What's your plan for being on the
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  Speaker 3: same page as your partner, what's your plan for alignment
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  Speaker 3: and working together? People look at me blankly.
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  Speaker 4: My what?
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  Speaker 3: And I think that if you want to get on
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  Speaker 3: the same page, you actually have to build a plan.
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  Speaker 2: It's about setting your intentions and getting your priorities in
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  Speaker 2: order as a couple. So often as I talk with
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  Speaker 2: other women, what I hear time and time again is
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  Speaker 2: that partners take care of everything outside the home. I
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  Speaker 2: hate this way, and the mom is the one who
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  Speaker 2: takes care of everything else inside.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry I just sounded very judging then, but that really
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  Speaker 3: gets under my skin.
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  Speaker 2: And as a result, you're each carrying your own stresses.
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  Speaker 2: There's no it's not a competition to see who's more
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  Speaker 2: stressed out.
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  Speaker 3: But the big thing with that, though, is if I
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  Speaker 3: see you struggling inside but I've done all my outside stuff.
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  Speaker 3: I've gone to work, I've earned the money, I've mowed
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  Speaker 3: the lawn, I've washed the car.
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  Speaker 4: As if I'm not going to get up and help you.
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  Speaker 3: But if that's where we're drawing the barriers, drawing the lines,
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  Speaker 3: then you're going to struggle and also feel guilty about
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  Speaker 3: asking me. I just well, it gets my goat.
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  Speaker 2: But I think that often in lots of cases, it's
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  Speaker 2: not actually a matter of somebody sitting on the couch
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  Speaker 2: just happily enjoying themselves. The reality is that often in
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  Speaker 2: our home we're both actually juggling things. We're not We're
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  Speaker 2: not watching the other struggle. But the challenge is sometimes
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  Speaker 2: in order to make things run smoothly, we have to
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  Speaker 2: kind of look at where the priority is in that moment.
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  Speaker 3: So every Sunday you and I have a conversation, and
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  Speaker 3: the conversation takes about fifteen minutes, twenty minutes. What's gone
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  Speaker 3: well this past week, what hasn't as a couple, what's
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  Speaker 3: gone well as a couple, what hasn't gone well as
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  Speaker 3: a couple? And what one thing and only one thing
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  Speaker 3: are we going to prioritize to improve how things go
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  Speaker 3: in our couple relationship this week and that one conversation
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  Speaker 3: that we've had for the last how many years has
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  Speaker 3: changed the way we approach each week. It's improved the
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  Speaker 3: intention that we bring to how we interact together and
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  Speaker 3: with the kids.
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  Speaker 2: And I will just point out that only it takes
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  Speaker 2: fifteen minutes because we do it regularly. Yes, well, when
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  Speaker 2: we have long gaps, that fifteen minute meeting.
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  Speaker 4: Ours. Yeah. True. True.
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  Speaker 2: The more regular you are with it, the smaller and
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  Speaker 2: shorter it can be because it's an ongoing conversation as
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  Speaker 2: opposed to a one off.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so this past weekend we have just done something
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  Speaker 3: that makes all the difference in our family. We used
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  Speaker 3: to do it all the time. It's gotten harder as
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  Speaker 3: our parents have aged and as we've lived not so
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  Speaker 3: close to them. But once every quarter. So in a business,
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  Speaker 3: you have a quarterly planning session, right, you get the
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  Speaker 3: team together and you say, here are our quarterly goals,
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  Speaker 3: here's our quarterly focus. This is what we need to
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  Speaker 3: achieve over the next three months. Most businesses run on
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  Speaker 3: an annual goal basis, a quarterly goal basis, then a
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  Speaker 3: monthly goal basis. And we've been doing this in my
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  Speaker 3: happy family's business for years, and several years ago I thought,
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  Speaker 3: hang on, if I'm doing this for my business, I
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  Speaker 3: need to do it for my family. This weekend, we've
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  Speaker 3: just done a quarterly get together. You and I spent
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  Speaker 3: a couple of nights in Adelaide. I was there for
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  Speaker 3: a conference anyway, So you came with me and we
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  Speaker 3: had a couple of days, a couple of nights to
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  Speaker 3: talk seriously about what's going well, what's not going so well,
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  Speaker 3: and what do we want to work on for the
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  Speaker 3: next twelve weeks. And we are going to let you
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  Speaker 3: behind the curtain. We're going to tell you exactly what
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  Speaker 3: we talked about the parenting expert for his family in
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  Speaker 3: terms of how we can be on the same page
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  Speaker 3: and what we want to do to make things go
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  Speaker 3: better over the next three months.
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  Speaker 2: So I think the first thing that's really important to
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  Speaker 2: acknowledge is that we actually ask the same three questions.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, that's right, every summer.
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  Speaker 2: Only difference, the only difference with the couples get away
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  Speaker 2: is that the things that we talk about we talk
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  Speaker 2: about more for starters, there's more topics to talk about
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  Speaker 2: because we go deep.
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  Speaker 4: And that's the real thing is.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, we might spend an hour on one topic
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  Speaker 3: and knowing that we've still got eight other topics to
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  Speaker 3: talk about.
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  Speaker 2: And this is the time where we actually we actually
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  Speaker 2: create the space in our lives, which is really challenging.
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  Speaker 2: We actually create the space in our lives so that
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  Speaker 2: we can talk about all of the facets of family
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  Speaker 2: life instead of just dealing with the here and now.
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  Speaker 3: So let's go behind the curtain. Let's unpack it and
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  Speaker 3: talk about what we discuss. Where do you want to start, Well.
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  Speaker 2: Let's start with daily habits, because we've talked about James
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  Speaker 2: Clear and his Atomic Habits book a lot on the podcast,
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  Speaker 2: and this acknowledgment that those incremental, almost seemingly insignificant things
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  Speaker 2: we do on a day to day basis are actually
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  Speaker 2: what create the success of our lives.
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  Speaker 3: Over the weekend, we really just talked about systems, right,
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  Speaker 3: what's our system going to be in the morning, what's
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  Speaker 3: our system going to be in the evenings, what's our
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  Speaker 3: system going to be on the weekends? Because when you
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  Speaker 3: get your system right, everything flows.
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  Speaker 4: Out of that.
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  Speaker 3: So this is where it gets tricky, right, because I
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  Speaker 3: want to do my exercise in the morning, but I
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  Speaker 3: also want to do a little bit of reading and
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  Speaker 3: some personal growth. I have some spiritual practice that I
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  Speaker 3: want to follow, but you do too. And if I'm
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  Speaker 3: out on a long bike ride and you want to
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  Speaker 3: be down at the beach sitting on your rock and
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  Speaker 3: meditating or having that prayer time. And we've got children
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  Speaker 3: who are waking up, but they don't have direction.
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  Speaker 4: That doesn't work.
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  Speaker 3: So we have to work out how we can not
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  Speaker 3: only get what we want, but also support one another
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  Speaker 3: in getting me supporting you to get what you want,
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  Speaker 3: and vice versa. It requires a whole lot of planning
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  Speaker 3: and a whole lot of thinking to get the priorities
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  Speaker 3: in order get the routine right, to create the system.
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  Speaker 2: And the great thing about this is if you're doing
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  Speaker 2: it regularly, it's not like you're having to start from scratch.
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  Speaker 4: You're asking, although it felt like we started from scratch this.
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  Speaker 2: Week, you're asking, what's going well within your daily routine? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: what's not going well? And where do we need to
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  Speaker 2: tweak things? So we know the big rocks, we know
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  Speaker 2: the things that we want to put in there. But
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  Speaker 2: as family life changes, and as you would know, changes,
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  Speaker 2: every term changes all the time, and what worked last term,
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  Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily work this term, and vice versa, and so
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  Speaker 2: trying to kind of navigate that space can be really
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  Speaker 2: really challenging. But that's why it's so good to be
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  Speaker 2: able to come together and have that conversation, because otherwise
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  Speaker 2: what ends up happening is me. I'm usually the one
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  Speaker 2: who just kind of goes, you know what, it's all
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  Speaker 2: too hard. I'm just going to let God my things.
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  Speaker 2: And then I start resenting you because you're going out
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  Speaker 2: and doing what you want to do, but I feel
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  Speaker 2: like I can't.
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  Speaker 3: And this is about advocating for you. It's making sure
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  Speaker 3: that your needs are mad. So let's get back to
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  Speaker 3: the agenda. We talked about our personal goals and habits
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  Speaker 3: and the systems that we needed to set up individually
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  Speaker 3: but also as a couple, like our regular date nights
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  Speaker 3: and our family time and our family routine. When we're
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  Speaker 3: spending high quality time with the kids, like super Saturday, we.
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  Speaker 2: Actually chunked out the calendar and worked out when our
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  Speaker 2: next getaway was going to be, so that that's that's
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  Speaker 2: already in there we know that nothing else can interrupt
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  Speaker 2: that time.
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  Speaker 3: The kids' activities was next on the list. And we're
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  Speaker 3: dealing in a lot of the moment with kids who
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  Speaker 3: were having some struggles, needing some support, and don't feel
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  Speaker 3: like they're really pulling it together, like they're they're not
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  Speaker 3: feeling competent in the activities that they've chosen to do.
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  Speaker 3: So we've had to do a whole lot of work
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  Speaker 3: around how we can get the kids involved in activities,
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  Speaker 3: but also what our children's needs are. And that I
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  Speaker 3: mean that took like a whole day to talk about
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  Speaker 3: the kids, six, so many of them.
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  Speaker 2: And what I love about that is the opportunity we
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  Speaker 2: actually have with space to pull it together and actually
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  Speaker 2: really spend time on each of the kids. If you
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  Speaker 2: talk about their strengths, talk about their weaknesses, talk about
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  Speaker 2: the struggles that they're having, but most importantly, how can
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  Speaker 2: we as their parents support them better.
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  Speaker 3: So there's a half of other things that we talked about.
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  Speaker 3: We won't dive deep on them, but just briefly. Because
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  Speaker 3: we have a faith background, we talked about our religious
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  Speaker 3: practice and making sure that we're scheduling time in the
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  Speaker 3: calendar to do the things that matter for us. There
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  Speaker 3: we talked about our finances because for goodness sakes, right
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  Speaker 3: now everyone needs to talk about their finances, what is
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  Speaker 3: going on in the world in terms of what it
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  Speaker 3: costs to live, and so on.
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  Speaker 2: We set some goals around the kinds of holidays and
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  Speaker 2: like family time we want to spend together.
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  Speaker 3: In fact, we did more than that. We made a
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  Speaker 3: couple of bookings. So this is not just a time
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  Speaker 3: for us to talk about stuff. We take action.
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  Speaker 4: So we actually pulled the.
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  Speaker 3: Calendar out, worked out when the kids were on school holidays,
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  Speaker 3: and made some decisions, called the holiday places and made
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  Speaker 3: the bookings. So we know where we're going to be
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  Speaker 3: at Eastern next year. We know where we're going to
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  Speaker 3: be in winter next year. We know where we're going
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  Speaker 3: to be in the September October holidays, the spring holidays
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  Speaker 3: next year. That's why we have these meetings, so that
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  Speaker 3: we can lock this stuff in, even if it's just camping.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be expensive, but it's about getting
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  Speaker 3: the dates confirmed, getting in the diary and locking it in.
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  Speaker 2: And the last thing we talked about was our social life.
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  Speaker 2: We love spending time with people. We really enjoy it,
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  Speaker 2: our kids enjoy it, We enjoy it, and we love
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  Speaker 2: having people in our home. So we sat down we
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  Speaker 2: looked at the calendar and worked out the weekends that
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  Speaker 2: you're around.
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  Speaker 4: Who do we need to catch up with.
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  Speaker 2: And who are the important people in our lives that
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  Speaker 2: we want to make sure that we connect with, share
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  Speaker 2: our love with, and enjoy time together.
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  Speaker 3: And again, it's about action. So text messages per sent.
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  Speaker 3: Please come to our house on this date for dinner.
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  Speaker 3: We're really looking forward to catching up with you and
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  Speaker 3: it feels so good to just lock it in the
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  Speaker 3: diary and though, okay, the next three months our social
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  Speaker 3: life is now, there's still room in it, but we've
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  Speaker 3: got the really important.
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  Speaker 4: Stuff bettered down.
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  Speaker 3: We also talked about business and work because that's part
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  Speaker 3: of our lives and we've got to make sure that
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  Speaker 3: we're doing all that now. Once the diary comes out
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  Speaker 3: and we've written this stuff down, we also make sure
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  Speaker 3: we allocate some time for fun. And we did have
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  Speaker 3: some fun while we were in Adelaide.
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  Speaker 2: What are you looking at me like that far?
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  Speaker 5: I'm just saying we had some fun because it can't
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  Speaker 5: all be business. Okay, there needs to be some fun.
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  Speaker 5: That's how we get on the same page. Does it
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  Speaker 5: sound like it's a bit extra, maybe, but I'll tell you,
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  Speaker 5: and it doesn't always work out perfectly. I mean, we're
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  Speaker 5: going to get two weeks into the next twelve weeks
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  Speaker 5: and something's gonna go wrong, the bottom will fall out.
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  Speaker 2: But the great thing is we have a plan. We
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  Speaker 2: have a plan, and when things start to fall apart,
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  Speaker 2: we can go back to the plan.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, what are we missing and we get more accomplished
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  Speaker 3: and we stay more aligned because of that. It sets
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  Speaker 3: the intention and helps us to implement the stuff we've
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  Speaker 3: said we'll do.
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  Speaker 2: And so when we come back together on a weekly basis,
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  Speaker 2: we've got the plan, We've got the quarterly plan. It's there.
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  Speaker 2: It's our blueprint for what we are hoping to achieve
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  Speaker 2: in any given twelve week period.
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  Speaker 3: We really hope that this helps you to create some
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  Speaker 3: alignment in your couple relationship. Hopefully there's ideas here the
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  Speaker 3: kickstart where you're up too, regardless of whether you're going
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  Speaker 3: to get away for a quarterly weekend or just start
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  Speaker 3: having the conversations to get alignment, it makes such a difference.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks for listening.
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  Speaker 3: The Happy Family's podcast is produced by Justin Ruland from
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  Speaker 3: Bridge Media. Craig Bruce is our executive producer. If you
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  Speaker 3: would like more information about making your family happy, please
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  Speaker 3: check out my brand new book, The Parenting Revolution.
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  Speaker 4: And a quick.
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  Speaker 3: Reminder, Tomorrow is our last day for the Smells Like
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: Teen Spirit Summit. Early bird price prices go up on Thursday,
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  Speaker 3: so dive in. We would love to have you there
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  Speaker 3: for the best summit we have ever done and probably
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  Speaker 3: the last summit.
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  Speaker 4: Will ever do.
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  Speaker 3: The Smells Like Teen Spirit Summit so you can have
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: more Nirvana, less drama,