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Chuck & Buck 7-10 Hour 3: The Ocho, Trade Season and are the Clippers in big trouble? · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: It's time for the cho.
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  Speaker 1: a Friday. Good morning to you all. Yes, it is
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  Speaker 1: a Friday tradition, your eight top stories of the day,
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  Speaker 1: water cooler talk. It's a way to recap the week
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  Speaker 1: and also get you ready for the weekend. Yes, it's
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  Speaker 1: time for the Ocho right here on Chuck and Buck
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  Speaker 1: in the Morning Sports Radio ninety three point three kh
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  Speaker 1: A r F M. Chuck Powell, Ashley Ryan with you.
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  Speaker 1: All right, we get things start different music. Yeah, the
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  Speaker 1: Ulto bed's not working. Oh the Ocho bed is not
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  Speaker 1: and you put another quarter in it. I tried, I tried.
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  Speaker 3: I even moved it.
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  Speaker 4: I went to a different page, to our Friday football
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  Speaker 4: page to see if I could grab it.
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  Speaker 3: There it just goes.
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  Speaker 1: Well, maybe maybe iheart's megan us pay for the Ocho bed.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what's happening. And I've never seen this.
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  Speaker 1: We should get an Ocho waterbed this time. Those are comfortable,
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  Speaker 1: they are.
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  Speaker 4: Very so I'm just gonna grab let's see if I
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  Speaker 4: can grab another bed.
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  Speaker 3: Just bear with me.
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  Speaker 1: Here, Let's just get to one of them Ocho Murphy beds.
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  Speaker 1: We can just pull it right out of the wall.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good hide a bed where we can be
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  Speaker 1: a couch during the day and then when we need
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  Speaker 1: it we pull it out.
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  Speaker 3: That's a great idea. Let's do that. Yeah, I like that.
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  Speaker 1: Or a vibrating bed, those are fun.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone loves a vibrator.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, have you ever stayed at a hotel with
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  Speaker 1: a vibrating bed? I mean, I think you've really gone
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  Speaker 1: to the depths of hotel stays if you have a
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  Speaker 1: vibrating bed. Do they even exist anymore?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I would assume the same ones that vibrate are the
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  Speaker 4: ones that turn around as well.
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  Speaker 1: Turn around, yeah, you know, like there's wall.
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  Speaker 3: No, just like spins in the middle of the room.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I don't think one goes with the other.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what's happening with this bed. So we're
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  Speaker 3: just different one.
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  Speaker 1: But we should certainly invent the thing it does both.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's a game.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, before before what Coslow or mattaal get the idea
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  Speaker 1: and turn it into their next billion dollar operation. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: all right, here we go. Let's get started with a strange, vibrating,
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  Speaker 1: rotating music bed here on this Friday. We will start
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  Speaker 1: with the Mariners, who were swept in Miami, Florida by
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  Speaker 1: the Marlins. Of all teams. Now, I warned you the
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  Speaker 1: Marlins were a better baseball team this year, and they
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  Speaker 1: were going to aggravate you by putting the ball in play.
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  Speaker 1: And they'd been pitching really well as well as of late,
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  Speaker 1: and they had been on fire coming into this series.
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  Speaker 1: But I think we're all in agreement. This had a
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  Speaker 1: lot more to do with how poorly the Mariners played
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  Speaker 1: these last three days than the Marlins were invincible. And
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  Speaker 1: so for the first time this season, Bryce and Bryce
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  Speaker 1: Miller wasn't good. He allowed six runs yesterday over five innings.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, only four of those were earned, as the
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  Speaker 1: M's defense committed another two errors last night, and offensively,
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  Speaker 1: they scored four runs, but they didn't do their part either,
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  Speaker 1: oh for seven with runners in scoring positions. So after
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  Speaker 1: winning five of six games, the Mariners played some of
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  Speaker 1: their worst baseball of the year in Miami the last
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  Speaker 1: three days. Here's what Dan Wilson said after the game.
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  Speaker 5: Now, how we wanted to end the series here, you know,
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  Speaker 5: tough one again today. You know, we had some opportunities
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  Speaker 5: early in the ballgame, just weren't able to capitalize on them.
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  Speaker 5: And and we were able to get some traffic there
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  Speaker 5: early chance, you know, to probably get the starter out
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  Speaker 5: of the game quickly, but just not able to convert
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  Speaker 5: those into runs, and uh, you know, kind of put us.
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  Speaker 1: Behind the eight ball a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: And uh, I thought Rice, you know, just wasn't coming
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  Speaker 5: out of sharp today and and looked like he had
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  Speaker 5: a tougher field for his secondaries. And and you know
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  Speaker 5: the four walks is you know, not indicative of Brice
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  Speaker 5: and and uh, you know again these.
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  Speaker 1: Guys hit hit the ball line the line, and.
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  Speaker 5: They took advantage of the opportunities that they were given.
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  Speaker 5: And you know that was kind of just the difference
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  Speaker 5: in the ball game today. We did, you know, show
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  Speaker 5: some fight coming trying to get back later some of
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  Speaker 5: the bats where we got some traffic, just weren't able
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  Speaker 5: to get that big hit and get back in the
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  Speaker 5: ball games.
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  Speaker 1: Wilson speak, Yeah, pretty much ready image another in there,
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  Speaker 1: you know it. Yeah, you know, tough one got traffic
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  Speaker 1: early and didn't take advantage that sort of thing.
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  Speaker 4: The only abnormality there was. Pitching wasn't good, so he true. Yeah, true, true,
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  Speaker 4: good good pitching, that's true.
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  Speaker 1: Did their part that certainly stood out as something spectacular.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: And that clip I know makes a big difference for you,
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  Speaker 3: doesn't it.
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  Speaker 1: The sweet drops the team to forty seven and forty
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  Speaker 1: seven on the season, and they have been left again
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  Speaker 1: in the American League West standings by the Texas Rangers. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's been another aggravating, frustrating first half for the Jerry
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  Speaker 1: Depoto era Seattle Mariners. Some things never change, but Black
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  Speaker 1: teams from the past in these past few years, they
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  Speaker 1: tend to pick it up in the second half, not
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  Speaker 1: just ten two, they always do. They pick it up
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  Speaker 1: in the second half. And they've gotten across the playoff
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  Speaker 1: finish line, not the finish finish line. They've gotten across
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  Speaker 1: the playoff finish line a couple of times here in
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  Speaker 1: the last couple of years. And they've always gotten close
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  Speaker 1: in the last five six years. And so I have
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  Speaker 1: no doubt that they're going to pick it back up again,
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  Speaker 1: and I think they're going to pull away in the
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  Speaker 1: American League West. But it does not obscure how frustrating
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  Speaker 1: this first half has been for a team that I
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  Speaker 1: think is clearly the best team in the division on
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  Speaker 1: paper and has really grossly underachieved all season long.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they just need to start playing like they're capable of.
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  Speaker 4: They don't even need to play great baseball. They just
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  Speaker 4: need to play good baseball. Which I feel like we've
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  Speaker 4: said about them a lot.
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  Speaker 1: We say it every year and then and then, and
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  Speaker 1: they're really frustrating, is that they will get going for
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  Speaker 1: a little while and then on a dime, they'll just
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  Speaker 1: start playing poorly again. And just when you're sure they're
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  Speaker 1: going to play poorly, then they'll turn it back around
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  Speaker 1: and play well, which is probably what will happen tonight.
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  Speaker 1: They'll probably end up sweeping the damn Tampa Bay Rays
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  Speaker 1: this weekend.
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  Speaker 3: I'll take it.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see because the All Star breaks coming, but we're
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  Speaker 1: not getting out of Florida that easy. Florida is amazing.
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  Speaker 1: It's interesting how much more respect Florida gets in December.
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  Speaker 3: During the year, everyone's a crazy Florida Florida.
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  Speaker 1: And then at the beginning of December, the whole Country's like, Hey, Florida,
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  Speaker 1: how you doing. We always liked you.
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  Speaker 3: Can I come by and bring every relative I've ever met?
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  Speaker 1: Is that?
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  Speaker 3: Okay? Ho fucking It's just the best.
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  Speaker 1: At fifty four and thirty seven, the Rays have the
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  Speaker 1: best record in the America League. They excel at putting
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  Speaker 1: the ball in play, fewest strikeouts in baseball, third, highest
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  Speaker 1: batting average, fourth, fewest home runs Aaron right hander Nick Martinez.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll get the start tonight. Then Griffin Jacks, who
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  Speaker 1: is was a reliever just a year ago, well at
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  Speaker 1: the beginning of this year, but they've turned them into
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  Speaker 1: a starting pitcher. And then they'll throw left hander Ian Seymour.
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  Speaker 1: On the last day of the first unofficial first half
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  Speaker 1: of the baseball season. Seattle will go with Castillo, Gilbert,
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  Speaker 1: and Hancock over the next three days, the last series
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  Speaker 1: before the All Star break. The game itself will be
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  Speaker 1: played on Tuesday. Home Run Derby is on Monday. And
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  Speaker 1: I've brought this up, but we haven't really talked about it.
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna be on Netflix this year. They're gonna put
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  Speaker 1: it on a streaming service.
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  Speaker 3: That's really weird.
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  Speaker 4: And you know what else is weird about it? Too,
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  Speaker 4: that they haven't hardly announced anyone that's in it. Usually
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  Speaker 4: you know people.
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  Speaker 3: I mean they've made like I think.
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  Speaker 1: Guys, well, they don't know who's going to be in
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  Speaker 1: it yet. I think they're up to five. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think they've got the full.
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  Speaker 4: I only saw three people that they'd announced, and I
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  Speaker 4: was like, yeah, Ryce Harper.
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  Speaker 1: Is the most recent. Yeah, Junior Camonaro. Yeah, I'm now
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  Speaker 1: having to do this for memory. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry, I screwed it up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, they've I think they've announced five. I
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  Speaker 1: think there's still one maybe spot left open.
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  Speaker 4: It just feels like, and again maybe it's just my
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  Speaker 4: mind messing with me. It feels like in the past
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  Speaker 4: we've known who was going to be in earlier than this, well,
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  Speaker 4: or it's been a bigger deal. It doesn't feel like
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  Speaker 4: it's been a very big deal made of it.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe they're having to talk to people. Maybe they're seeing
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  Speaker 1: if Mike Trout will do it. Maybe they're trying to
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  Speaker 1: hold a spot open. He's never done it. He's in Philly.
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  Speaker 1: He wanted to make sure he was healthy for the
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  Speaker 1: All Star Game so he could play the All Star
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  Speaker 1: Game near his hometown. Maybe they're holding out that spot
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  Speaker 1: for him in Cason he wants to do it. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, but you're right, it has been a slower
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  Speaker 1: process than normal. I'm actually kind of looking forward to
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  Speaker 1: seeing the derby done by someone other than the ESPN,
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  Speaker 1: because I think they got bad at it. I mean
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  Speaker 1: the camera shots, trying to come up with the cutest
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  Speaker 1: camera shot, and then you couldn't even tell if the guy.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I can tell when a guy's hit a
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  Speaker 1: home run or not.
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  Speaker 4: I just don't like when it's on a streaming service
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  Speaker 4: something like that that people then have to pay for.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I don't like that at all, and I don't
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to pick up Netflix just to watch it,
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  Speaker 1: so I'll figure out another way to watch it. But
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  Speaker 1: but I am kind of curious to see how Netflix
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  Speaker 1: will approach it because I think it needs some fresh
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  Speaker 1: eyeballs on how to cover the home run derby. But
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  Speaker 1: we'll see. Maybe they'll make it worse. Sunday will be
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  Speaker 1: the Futures Game. It will feature Kate Anderson and Ryan Sloan,
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  Speaker 1: and then starting tomorrow at ten am, the Major League
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  Speaker 1: Baseball Draft will be held. That's new to All Star
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  Speaker 1: Week as well. Jonathan Mayo, MLB draft and prospect expert
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  Speaker 1: from Mlbpipeline and MLB dot Com, was on with us
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  Speaker 1: yesterday and told us what he thinks the Mariners might
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  Speaker 1: do at twenty four.
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  Speaker 6: It's not a terrible draft to be pitching lay in
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  Speaker 6: the first round because I think the strength of this
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  Speaker 6: class is the tech. So you might get a player
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  Speaker 6: at twenty four who's just as good as the player
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  Speaker 6: someone gets at ten.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's encouraging news when you're you know, last year
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  Speaker 1: we lucked out got Kate Anderson because of the lottery,
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  Speaker 1: and then this year picking down at twenty four, and
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  Speaker 1: here's Mayo saying you might get I mean, it's such
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  Speaker 1: an even draft after the top ten that you might
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  Speaker 1: get your ten favorite guy on the board might twenty
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  Speaker 1: four might might have been the guy you would have
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  Speaker 1: taken at ten. Right now, Mayo has the Mariners projected
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  Speaker 1: to take Tennessee right handed pitcher Tigan koons doesn't mean
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  Speaker 1: it's going to happen. He also elaborated yesterday with Mariners
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  Speaker 1: and their draft history recent draft history. He says it's
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  Speaker 1: kind of a known fact the Mariners like to get
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  Speaker 1: college pitching or high school hitting. That's ten. That's what
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  Speaker 1: they tend to do. So we'll see what Scott Hunter
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  Speaker 1: does with the draft the next couple of days. But
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  Speaker 1: it is one of the areas that they shine at
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  Speaker 1: as an organization. I mean lately, winning baseball games is
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  Speaker 1: an area they have not shined, said, yeah, Or fundamental
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  Speaker 1: base running or fielding or bullpen decisions, yeah, yep. Hitting
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  Speaker 1: and runners in scoring position also one of those they
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  Speaker 1: haven't exactly excelled out. But the draft they've been really.
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  Speaker 3: Good, excellent. You got that going for us?
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  Speaker 1: All right? Of number four on the O Show, the
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  Speaker 1: Seahawks sale, according to reports, seems down to two top
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  Speaker 1: front runners.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I'll give you a million dollars for this Iceberg thing?
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  Speaker 3: Would that be enough? I million dollars would be great?
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  Speaker 1: Shirt, Hello, Crusher, Charlie. How you doing? Mall right? It's great.
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  Speaker 1: I just got an Iceberg. Yeah, that's pretty much the
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  Speaker 1: type of person we're going to get. Somebody that can
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  Speaker 1: afford to buy an Iceberg.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, well at least they're rich.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. The names that are being brought up
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  Speaker 1: are the Don Kosla and I don't know, I'm Aditya
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  Speaker 1: Mattal one of them Mattal is part owner of the
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  Speaker 1: Boston Celtics is also the heir to a steel magnate. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: Cosla he is a venture capitalist who's with Sun Microsystems,
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  Speaker 1: co founder there. They have similar earning power. They're both
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  Speaker 1: the billionaires fifteen to seventeen times over, and seems like
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  Speaker 1: they've got the cash and the interest to do this. Now.
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  Speaker 1: Whether or not one of them is going to be
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  Speaker 1: a good owner of our football team, I have no
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  Speaker 1: idea how to predict that or even how to analyze it.
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  Speaker 1: But they both have been involved in sports. Matal's with
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  Speaker 1: the Celtics, Coasla's with the forty nine ers in some capacity,
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  Speaker 1: and I would assume Steve Ballmer is not out of
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  Speaker 1: the picture. The reports though yesterday suggesting that these two
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  Speaker 1: guys are the front runners right now.
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  Speaker 3: All right, I just would like it to be someone
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  Speaker 3: with local ties.
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  Speaker 1: So you don't want either one of or Matal, don't.
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  Speaker 4: I still am holding out hope that there's someone local
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  Speaker 4: who's just hanging out waiting in the wings, and then
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  Speaker 4: at the end they're going to swoop in like the
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  Speaker 4: savior they are.
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  Speaker 1: How about Bender? How about Jody and Bender? They make
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  Speaker 1: a lot of money away.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's a great idea.
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  Speaker 1: What about those two?
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  Speaker 3: I think it's a great idea.
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  Speaker 4: When you first said Bender, I thought Benton as I
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  Speaker 4: don't think Benton can, but Bender definitely bend Bend.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good idea.
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  Speaker 1: Whis Britain is ear.
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  Speaker 3: And then Jody can be minority owner.
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  Speaker 1: I trust them.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they put their logo all over the stadium.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see, So we'll find out. We'll find out.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I know it's a huge story. It's just
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  Speaker 1: it's a really difficult way, right. I don't know how
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  Speaker 1: you assess whether or not one of these guys are
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  Speaker 1: going to be a good owner for the Seahawks without
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  Speaker 1: interviewing right exactly. If they want to come on, I'd
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  Speaker 1: like to pick their brain about it. Okay, you are
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  Speaker 1: going to leave Mike McDonald the f alone. Aren't you?
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  Speaker 3: You did better? That would be my first question to
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  Speaker 3: see or hear you ask it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, things are going really well. Stay out of John
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  Speaker 1: and Mike's way. Yeah, thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Don't come in here and f this up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's talk World Cup. Yesterday, the first
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  Speaker 1: of the quarterfinal matches was held France versus Morocco France
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  Speaker 1: heavy favorite, and it turned out that way he crosses
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  Speaker 1: it in the way Babo's rally audio heads it back
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  Speaker 1: in to able to.
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  Speaker 3: Find and Boppe to traffic.
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  Speaker 1: Twenty World Tacos.
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  Speaker 6: Gives Tala the quarterfinal.
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  Speaker 1: Fox with the call there, Yeah, Morocco some dirty birds,
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  Speaker 1: those Moroccans are they? They were some dirty birds. I
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  Speaker 1: mean they were just looking for any opportunity just to
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  Speaker 1: knock a Frenchman down. Brad Evans told us, I mean
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  Speaker 1: he's he obviously he knows a lot more than I
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  Speaker 1: do about this, and he just thought they came out
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  Speaker 1: as flat as what Team USA did against Belgium on Monday.
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  Speaker 1: My assessment of it was they knew they weren't as talented.
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  Speaker 1: They tried to frustrate and bope, they tried to tackle everybody,
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  Speaker 1: and then when they had the ball offensively, they just
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  Speaker 1: basically went four corners. Dean Smith, I think they knew
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  Speaker 1: they didn't have a chance unless they won by fluke,
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  Speaker 1: if they got Imboppe frustrated and thrown out with a
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  Speaker 1: red cart or something like that, or if they got
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  Speaker 1: a favorable bounce and kept to score zero zero until
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  Speaker 1: they got.
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  Speaker 3: That bounce Yeah, they had a little luck.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of the way it felt to me.
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  Speaker 1: But then again, I'm pretty ignorant about this. Imbope scored
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  Speaker 1: again to break a scoreless tie. France goes on to
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  Speaker 1: win by a final score of two to nothing. Today
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  Speaker 1: Spain will take on Belgium at noon, and then tomorrow
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  Speaker 1: you're going to have Norway at England or not at England.
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  Speaker 1: Norway versus England at two pm, followed by Argentina versus Switzerland. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: Team USA thinks about how things might be different in
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  Speaker 1: four years. I mentioned Brad Evans was on with US
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  Speaker 1: again today at seven oh five. I asked him, after
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  Speaker 1: this tournament, after the disappointment of Monday, what is the
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  Speaker 1: state of American soccer as you see it?
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  Speaker 2: The rest of the world has had one hundred year
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  Speaker 2: head start on our national team and we are playing
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  Speaker 2: catch up since really nineteen ninety four, to be honest,
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: was kind of the jumping off point. So we still
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: have a lot of work to do, a lot of growth,
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: and there's no clear cut answer. There's too many massive
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: sports in this country to say we're just going to
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: become a soccer nation. This is a giant melting pot.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: We have everything in this country and it's growing, which
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: is great, but we still need to continue to put
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: that pressure. But it needs to be on ESPN. We
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: need to talk about it consistently. We have to not
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: let this thing die. Most importantly, to keep the pressure
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: on US soccer to get to the next stage.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: Good stuff from Brad today, really good stuff, like like
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: the emotional connection he has to Team USA. I mean
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: he was he's still sad. I mean his Friday he
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: is sad. You could tell, Like as soon as he
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: started the conversation, he even got into talking about how
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: he was a fan for the first time and how
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: he spent a fortune on tickets and just like you've
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: been frustrated in the past, Brad Evans is like, I
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: want my money.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: Back, yeah, which I loved.
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: Was like, and you think about it because, yeah, most
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: of those players don't ever go experience their own game
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: as a fan, and so for him to experience it
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: for the first time as a fan, like buying a ticket, Yeah.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: So have to eat price tag on a ticket to buy.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: That's a big game with big implications to be your
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: first one, like sitting there, well.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you spend the it's it's nice that a former
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: player or current player would spend that much of their
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: money on a game where they show up and the
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: team that they spend it for doesn't show up, and
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: how frustrated you are, Like, I spent that much money
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: on that, and then you have to go home, not
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: just with the loss, but having squandered a fortune to
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: watch a team not show up for you. Yeah, welcome
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: to being a fan, bro.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: It hurts a bit.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: No, that's the way it works. We remain on Lebron
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: watch in this fam We'll take my towns two where
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: answer would be nice, we're you going to take him
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: this fall? We're you taking him? We don't know. Steph
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Curry kind of doubled down on it yesterday saying, yeah,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: we want him, we want him, but it's going to
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: be his decision. And it looks like there are a
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: lot of candidates out there for Lebron's services, so a
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: lot different than the first decision. But this one is
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: it's not nearly as interesting. I'm not saying it's as interesting,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: but just from the standpoint of it does sound like
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: he is just trying to figure out where's the best
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: place for me to write the final chapter of my career,
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: and he's not gonna let money play a role. So
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: truly trying to make the decision on where am I
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: going to be happiest for the next year or two
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: to finish this thing off. So we're all waiting. We're
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: all waiting. We are finally Wimbledon Women's Finals tomorrow at
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: eight am, Men's Finals Sunday at eight am. Coming up next,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: it is trade season, and yesterday Ken Rosenthal got Mariner
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: fans and itzzy by saying suggesting that the Mariners are
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: considering trading one of their six starting pitchers. We'll get
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: into that next. Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: All right, good morning, it is Chuck and Ashley with you.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: And yes, it is trade season. You know, trade season
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: started in June.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: I do love trade season. The weather's been perfect this
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: trade season.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: You get your permit for trade season this year? You
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: know you got to apply.
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: I did because it expired last year because I thought
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: they're like usually, well, no, I guess they are good
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: only for one.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Year, aren't they.
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: Uh?
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I tried, they tried to. I think I got scammed.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: So we'll try to trick me into buying like a
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: three year trade season permit.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: I hate those people. Yeah, poachers basically is that what
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: they are.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So luckily it didn't fall for that again this year.
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: So I'm all good, up to date on the permit
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: and looking forward to going out and seeing what trades
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: I can make happen.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Well, if we're going to a big trade hunt, you
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: gotta have a permit, that's right. Uh, Well, it is
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: a trade season. And now we're getting closer and closer
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: to the trading deadline. So we'll have the All Star break,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: we'll have the draft, and then all the executives say, well,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: we're really focused on the draft. Well, you won't be
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: after Sunday, so we can get into the trade season. Right.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: We have a good two three weeks of trade activity.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: That's the wish. If you like trades like I do,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: if you've got your permit for trade season, then you
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: want the trades to start flying. And of course the
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Mariners could use an upgrade. Well, Ken Rosenthal started the
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: pod a little bit bow Tide. Little weirdo actually knows
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: a thing or two about baseball executives, and so Ken
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Rosenthal said yesterday that, yeah, the Mariners just might trade
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: one of their six starting pitchers in this log jam
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: in return for something to help them at the trading deadline. Well,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: let's break this down. Let's really break this down, because
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: this is really going this would really be difficult to do.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, I get it. We have an excess of something.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Surely somebody else has, you know, a deficit in this
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: area that might want to give away something they have
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: in surplus. And then we can figure it out. Well,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: how many teams are really Just take the first five
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: and then we'll get to castile. Let's take the young
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: five guys, Okay, Hancock, wou Miller, Kirby Gilbert. Put them
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: all in the same group, same category. I mean, can
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: you imagine the anger if you traded one of those
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: five for prospects?
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: Infuriating people would lose their mind.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: We would lose their minds. Yeah, and we're just to
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: get rid of our log jam at starting pitcher. We
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: just like, oh, here's a great opportunity to be sellers
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: at the trading deadline. We'll trade one of our eyes
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: and we'll get a boatload of prospects for Logan Gilbert.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: At this stage, can you imagine can you imagine how
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: well that would go over and cash.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know people would freaking out.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Now this offseason, brace yourself, that's gonna happen. One of
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: those five are gonna get moved. And it's actually, I'll
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: make it more specific, one of those Twoby, Kirby or
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Gilbert are gonna get moved this off season. Kirby will
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: have two years left on his deal, Gilbert will have
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: one year left before where they become free agents, so
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: they'll move. They're gonna move one of them, okay, and
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: try to sign the other one. So that's gonna happen
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: this offseason. But in the middle of the year, in
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: the middle of a playoff push, when you've never won
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: a World Series? Could you imagine the outcry if you
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: move one of those guys?
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: So, I honestly can't imagine.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So, okay, that's off the table, right. Can we
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: all agree that's off please, Voe tie, Can we agree
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: that's off the table?
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: Yes?
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Okay. So then the other possibility for one of those
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: five guys is we're gonna trade one of our great
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: young pitchers are very good young pitchers for a very
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: good to great hitter of similar contract value. Okay, Well,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: what team in the middle of the season, is gonna
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: give up one of their best hitters to us, best young,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: controllable hitters to us for a pitcher. What team's gonna
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: do that. What team is gonna sell that to their
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: fan base? We just we just ditched out on one
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: of our I mean, maybe that's something that could happen
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: in an off season, But when you're at the trading deadline.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: The whole idea behind the trading deadline is that you
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: have buyers and you have sellers, and those that don't
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: feel they're in contention are gonna sell off veteran pieces
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: to get young pieces to help them win starting next
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: year and beyond. That's the premise of the trade deadline.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: So why would somebody just say, oh, we're going to
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: weaken ourselves if they're going for the same thing we're
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: going for, We're gonna weaken ourselves in this area so
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: that we can strengthen this area. No, that's not what
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: you would do. You would keep that area strong and
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: then trade prospects in order to strengthen the weak area.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: You don't want to pay Rob Peter to pay Paul
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: at the trading deadline. That's just that's taken two steps
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: forward and two steps back, so I don't see one
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: of our five guys going, one of the five young
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: pitchers going, So that leaves you with Castile. I figure
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: out how difficult this is to trade, and I'm not
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: saying it can't happen, but you could be a seller.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: You could just say, we don't want the logjam anymore.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Here's an opportunity to get rid of Luis Castile, so
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: we don't have to pay him next year. So you
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: could be a seller. You could trade him to a
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: contender with money. I don't think fans would be happy
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: about that here in Seattle, not to get a veteran
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: piece that could help us back this year, but it
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: might not be a terrible move organizationally. If you could
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: go to the Dodgers or the Cubs, or the Phillies
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: or the Braves, teams with a lot of money that
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: are in contention, that need pitching right now, and you
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: give them a Luis Castillo. They're not going to blink
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: at the salary.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: They never do well, yeah, because it's not real money.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: And then you just get all prospect back or two.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: So you just just pretend Masquerade is a seller. I
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: mean you're still buying. You're still going to buy something
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: at the trading deadline. You're a buyer. We're a buyer.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: But in this particular case, we're just gonna masquerade with Castillo.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: We're gonna clear up this log jam, and then we're
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: gonna get like a prospect. We're gonna get his money
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: off of our books so that we can afford something else,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: somewhere else for the rest of this year. That's a
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: possibility you could possibly do that. I still don't know
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: if Mariner fans are going to I know the immediate
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: reaction to it. Oh, we got was a prospect for Castile.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: But that's what you would get under that scenario. The
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: other another scenario our excess for your excess, our bad
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: money for your bad money. This is not like trading
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: one or the other five. This is trading what looks
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: clearly like our sixth guy. And so what you could
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: do is, let's say Philadelphia. Philadelphia right now is operating
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: like two starting pitchers down from what they thought they
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: were gonna have at the beginning of the year. So
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: if you went to Philly, who's run out of patience
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: with Alec Bohme at third base and he only makes
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: ten million dollars. But they're the Phillies. It's a big
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: market club. So if you pulled maybe, maybe, and I'm
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: still saying maybe on this, like a Castillo for Boom
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: and that gives us a shore fire third baseman and
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: a right handed hitter, And then Phillies get a proven
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: veteran starting pitcher who's not completely washed up and has
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: actually been pitching much better as of late. And the
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Phillies get a veteran to kind of round out their organization.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: I think that's a possibility that sounds possible to me.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: How about the Washington Nationals. I mean, they've surprised everybody.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Have they convinced themselves their contenders at forty eight and
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: forty six with the game's highest scoring team and yet
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: twenty six? Then era would the Washington Nationals go? Not
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: all in, but would they go in? Would they convince
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: themselves like, Hey, if we just get a couple veteran pitchers.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, we've been saving money now for years. Maybe
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: we should go for it. Maybe we could give something
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: up offensively in order to get a Castello. I mean,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: how much could that help Todd? That veteran experience over
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: the next couple of years. Maybe I'm still saying maybe, right,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking no, but at.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: Least closing the door entirely.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Oh, crack the door open a little bit too. Maybe
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: there's someone with that type of thinking.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: You'll put a cup up to the door and listen
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: to the other side.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: I'll make sure that mom and dad aren't having sex
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: before I.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: Go into the bedroom. And then yeah, just and then
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: a gentle knock.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: And then the other thing is maybe there's something huge.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: I brought up a couple of weeks ago. San Francisco
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: is selling, and they're selling. They're trying to get rid
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: of any big contract that they have. So what if you,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you were interested, like in a Matt Chapman.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: They've been interested in Matt Chapman. I think they would
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: be interested in We'll take a year and a half
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: of Castillo. If you take three and a half years
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: of Matt Chapman at way too much money. Yeah, but
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: then again we get a good not great, good third baseman.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Never has been a good hitter, very good defender and
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: okay hitter. He would help our lineup. Okay, now at
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: that much money and through the year twenty thirty. I
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: don't think it's something that Jerry would do, but you
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: could do it. You could, you could do it. Raphael
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Devers is available as well, and yeah, he's another left
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: handed hitter, and he's a pain in the ass, and
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: he's probably passed his prime, but there's no doubt that
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: he's been one of the best hitters in baseball the
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: last five years. But then again, you're taking on a
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: lot of salary, so I don't think it's something they
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: would do. Now. The last thing I would even discuss
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: is what about the Boston Red Sox. Somebody asked me
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: on our sub segment yesterday Contrarasts and Chapman. My initial
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: reaction was there, never going to go for that. But
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: if what if you include a Castillo in that trade.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: If you went to the Boston Red Sox and said, okay,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: we want Contreras and Chapman, that's immediately thirty three million
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: dollars onto your books or thirty three million dollar salaries,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: so half of that for the rest of the year, right,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: and then you'd have to keep Contreras through the next
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: two years at twenty million. Chapman's off the books at
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: the end of this year. Okay, so let's get creative
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: with that, all right. We can't take on that much salary.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: I mean we could, but they won't. Right. But if
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: you took Castillo off our hands for the next year
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: and a half, and you took ref Sneider off of
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: our hands, because Boston missus rob Refsneider.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: Believe it or not, you'll probably go there and start hitting.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: So you take the money back for the next you'll
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: be out from underneath ref Snyder when we're out from
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: underneath Chapman. And then you'll have Castillo next year taking
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: the money of Contreras for next season. And then, of course,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: in order to do that, we will sweeten the prospect
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: honeypot for you if you take the money. So the
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Red Sox aren't exactly wanting for money. They're a big
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: market club. They've got a fortune. But if you wanted to,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: if you will take some of them our money back
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: in this exchange, and then we'll give you a really sexy,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: attractive prospect package. We'll go with Michael Arroyo and at
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Johnny Famelo and maybe a couple of other things. You're
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: not touching Montes, you're not getting Anderson you're not getting Sloan,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: but maybe we'll give you a roy that's the number
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: forty three rank prospect in the sport. Michael Royo's legit.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: So if we did an Arroyo, a Formelo and a
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: really sexy prospect package, but you have to take money
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: off of our books as well. You've got to take Castillo,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: you got to take ref Snyder, and then we'll take Contreras.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: He'll be our DH Chapman rounds out our bullpen beautifully.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Of course, those are two giant headache personalities that you'd
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: be taking on, and I don't know how they would
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: jibe with the clubhouse, but certainly from what are our
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: two holes at the deadline, relief pitching potentially and a
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: right handed hitter that crushes, we would be getting that
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: in the deal, and we would be getting rid of
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: a couple of contracts we don't want, and in return,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: we just give a really sexy prospect package to the
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: Red Sox. Last thing I'd say about it is, but
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: the Red Sox have gotten back in the wildcard race,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: right They've won six straight games. They're back in the
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: wildcard race. They might not even be selling.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: Damn you, Boston so, but you see.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: How difficult that that is to try to figure out, Like,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: how do you then make that work? There's nobody that
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: is just lining up down the street to get Luis
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Castillo at twenty four million dollars and is sixty.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: R right, that's just not happening.
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: Right, right, even if he is getting better, they're just
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: looking at the money and the total.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: The overall teams will look at him as he could
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: help us. Yeah, but what are you How are we
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: going to make this work? Because we're not just going
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: to take money off your hands for what's at best
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: a number three starter right now at twenty four million dollars.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: So it's very tricky. I'm not saying it can't be done.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: You can see how tricky that sounds. And so I
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: get the report from Ken Rosenthal. I get that. You
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: see how it could make sense we subtract from our
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: surplus and then we try to bring something back that
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: helps us in other ways. But there just aren't great
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: bats available on the market at this stage and might
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: not be before August third, and starting pitching is just
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: too valuable to just give away. So it's gonna be tricky.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: It will be tricky to pull off something like that
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: before the deadline. All right, I went too long. Kawhi Leonard.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Next Sports Radio ninety three point three KHRFM. All right,
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Dempster is coming up to the top of the hour.
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  Speaker 1: I have never chatted with Ryan Dempster, so looking forward
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  Speaker 1: to that. The former Marlin, the former Cub, the former Canadian.
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  Speaker 4: No, he probably defected here, I hope because we are.
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  Speaker 1: He seems smart. I think he's wised up. So we'll
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  Speaker 1: talk to Ryan Dempster from MLB Network coming up here
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  Speaker 1: at nine o'clock. I do want to mention this just quickly,
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  Speaker 1: and I do have to do it quickly. But this
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  Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard trade, which was monstrous him going from the
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  Speaker 1: Clippers to the Toronto Raptors, has been held up, and
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  Speaker 1: for a very good reason. Kawhi Leonard is under investigation
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  Speaker 1: along with the Los Angeles Clippers for circumventing the salary cap.
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  Speaker 1: He was taking money from a company Steve Balmer is
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  Speaker 1: part of, and he was taking money on the side.
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  Speaker 1: Now Balmer has said I didn't know anything about it,
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  Speaker 1: but ignorance is not a defense. It still came from
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  Speaker 1: a company, he still got paid, and he got more
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  Speaker 1: money than his contract suggests he should and so that
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  Speaker 1: messes with our cap. Now that is a huge penalty.
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  Speaker 1: In the NBA, this happened to the Minnesota Timberwolves a
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  Speaker 1: few years ago, and they to their general manager and
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  Speaker 1: their i think their owner, were banned from the league
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  Speaker 1: for a year. Wow, and they lost like five first
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  Speaker 1: round picks. So this is like a huge penalty. And
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  Speaker 1: so all of a sudden, Kawhi Leonard gets traded and
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  Speaker 1: then just in the last couple of days, the NBA
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  Speaker 1: is like, hey, wait a minute, we're not done investigating
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  Speaker 1: this crime. And now he's not a Clipper anymore. You're
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  Speaker 1: trying to put him on the Raptors. He might be
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  Speaker 1: suspended from the league for a year. So the Raptors
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  Speaker 1: are like, well, wait a minute, we didn't know that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't want it if we can't play them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So they've had to put the trade on hold
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  Speaker 1: to try to investigate and figure out just how much
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  Speaker 1: blame goes on Kawhi leonard shoulders, how much blame goes
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  Speaker 1: on the Clippers shoulders for this incident, this infraction, and
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  Speaker 1: so it might not happen. This trade might not happen
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  Speaker 1: because there's no way you're going to give all of
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  Speaker 1: that draft capital and wait for a thirty five year
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  Speaker 1: old to sit out a year. So it's put the
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  Speaker 1: trade on hold. Here's the question I have is this
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  Speaker 1: is truly what doesn't make sense to me? Why did
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  Speaker 1: you wait till this week to do this? Yeah, you
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  Speaker 1: had an entire year to get out in front of this.
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  Speaker 1: Then you had the playoffs. They weren't in the playoffs,
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  Speaker 1: they weren't part of the playoff process. Then you had
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  Speaker 1: the off season, and then and a couple of weeks
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  Speaker 1: of the off season. Why did you Why did the
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  Speaker 1: league not get out in front of this? Why didn't
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  Speaker 1: you say, hey, just so you know, Clippers, you're under investigation.
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  Speaker 1: You can't trade that guy because now the Raptors missed
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  Speaker 1: out on other free agents. I mean, who knows what
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  Speaker 1: would have to be undone unwound if this would have
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  Speaker 1: gone any further whatever, Lebron would have chosen Toronto and
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  Speaker 1: then found out, Wait a minute, why he's not.
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  Speaker 3: Going to play her for a year.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm fifty.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe that's what Lebron's waiting for, that's waiting to find out.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe Maybe I don't know, but it just seems really
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  Speaker 1: careless on the part of the NBA not to have
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  Speaker 1: jumped on this and let the Clippers know you can't
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  Speaker 1: trade Kawhi until we finish our investigation. All right. Coming
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  Speaker 1: up next, Ryan Dempster will join us. We'll see if
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  Speaker 1: he swears off Canada for good. Next. Sports Radio ninety
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