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  Speaker 1: Is the Gold Report.
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  Speaker 2: Well, good evening and welcome to the Bolt Report. I'm
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  Speaker 2: James Macpherson coming up tonight. Matt Canavan says the coalition's
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  Speaker 2: debate on that zero is messy, and that that's okay.
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  Speaker 3: He joins me.
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  Speaker 2: Shortly, I'll talk with author and commentator Andrew Craven about
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  Speaker 2: actress Sidney Sweeney's new advertisement for Blue Jeans and why
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  Speaker 2: the advertisement is now being dubbed Nazi propaganda. Anthony Albanesi says,
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  Speaker 2: claims that Palestinians are not being starved beyond comprehension, but
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  Speaker 2: is everything as it seems.
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  Speaker 3: My panel will weigh in on that one, and.
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  Speaker 2: Mayer staff complain that a new customer feedback app is hazardous.
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  Speaker 3: To their mental health. All of that shortly.
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  Speaker 2: But first, if you're wondering why Anthony Albanesi has not
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  Speaker 2: yet found time to organize a meeting with the US President,
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  Speaker 2: allow me to offer a couple of helpful clues. Trump
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  Speaker 2: was in Scotland overnight for a meeting with UK Prime
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  Speaker 2: Minister Kirs Starmer, and in a deliciously awkward seventy minute
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  Speaker 2: joint press conference, Trump did a better job holding Starmer's
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  Speaker 2: labor government to account than the UK opposition have done
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  Speaker 2: all year. For instance, it's well known that Starmer's labor
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  Speaker 2: government is cracking down on free speech. Just last week
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  Speaker 2: they announced a special task force to monitor what people
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  Speaker 2: say online about immigration.
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  Speaker 3: So naturally, a journalist asked Donald.
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  Speaker 2: Trump if he was worried the British government might censor him,
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  Speaker 2: and Trump never won to waste a theatrical moment, delivered
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  Speaker 2: this gem.
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  Speaker 4: To have a successful social media site. There are new
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  Speaker 4: powers here to censor your site, states Monday for to
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  Speaker 4: censor your site on faith, I mean true?
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  Speaker 3: Is that okay? I don't think he's.
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  Speaker 5: Only good things that you please.
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  Speaker 6: Uncensored may say, we're not censoring anyone.
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  Speaker 2: Q staus q Stahmer blinking like a deer in the headlights,
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  Speaker 2: suddenly giving an impassioned defense of free speech, promising to
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  Speaker 2: uphold it forever.
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  Speaker 6: Sensoring adults are proud, But that can all free speech,
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  Speaker 6: and this culture has been for a very long time.
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  Speaker 2: We're very, very proud of it.
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  Speaker 3: We will protect it forever. Amazing.
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  Speaker 2: But the real fun began when journalists asked Trump what
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  Speaker 2: he thought about renewable energy. They think that'd be a
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  Speaker 2: safe topic in the UK, where windmills are apparently the future,
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  Speaker 2: and also the reason your electricity bill looks like a
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  Speaker 2: luxury car payment. But Trump, with the subtlety of a chainsaw,
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  Speaker 2: replied like this.
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  Speaker 5: When is a disaster.
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  Speaker 7: When we go to Aberdeen, you'll see some of the
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  Speaker 7: ugliest windmills you've ever seen in the height of a
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  Speaker 7: fifty story building, and you could take a thousand times
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  Speaker 7: more energy out of a hole in the ground. This
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  Speaker 7: this spek's called oil and gas, and you have it
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  Speaker 7: there at the North Sea. Win needs massive subsidy, and
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  Speaker 7: you are paying in Scotland and in UK and all
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  Speaker 7: over the place where they have a massive subsidies to
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  Speaker 7: have these ugly monsters all over the place.
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  Speaker 5: So I restricted windmills in the United.
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  Speaker 2: States, Trump dismantled the UK's energy policy, while Kiirs Starmer
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  Speaker 2: sat beside him in eerie silence, no doubt wondering whether
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  Speaker 2: it was too late to pretend that he didn't speak English.
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  Speaker 2: When it came to immigration, Trump didn't even have to
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  Speaker 2: say a word for Kirs Starmer to squirm. Have a
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  Speaker 2: look at the Prime Minister's reaction when a reporter asked
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  Speaker 2: if Kirs Starmer was inspired by what Trump had done
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  Speaker 2: on border security.
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  Speaker 4: The President makes it look easy dealing with illegal migration.
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  Speaker 4: You must be envious of his record is such a
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  Speaker 4: short period of time.
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  Speaker 8: Well, I think we've been discussing irre illegal migration is
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  Speaker 8: a huge issue in both of our countries.
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  Speaker 3: In the United Kingdom.
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  Speaker 2: It is a real cause for concern, and that's why
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  Speaker 2: we must fare down on it. When Starma stammered about
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  Speaker 2: irregular illegal migration as opposed to regular illegal migration, well
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  Speaker 2: it was clear his brain was going into full malfunction.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's called stumbling to find the right lie.
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  Speaker 2: Have look at Starmer's face when Trump explains how a
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  Speaker 2: good government cuts taxes, provides cheap, reliable energy, and has
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  Speaker 2: a sensible immigration policy.
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  Speaker 5: But generally speaking, the one who cuts taxes the most,
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  Speaker 5: the one who gives you the lowest energy prices and
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  Speaker 5: the best kind of energy.
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  Speaker 9: The one that keeps you out of wars. He's kept
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  Speaker 9: you out of wars, But the one that keeps you
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  Speaker 9: out of wars. Here you have a few basics, and
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  Speaker 9: you can go back a thousand years, a million years.
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  Speaker 9: Whoever does these things with low taxes, keep us safe,
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  Speaker 9: keep us out of wars, no crime, stop the crime,
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  Speaker 9: and in your case, a big immigration component. You know,
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  Speaker 9: because I know that your attitude has become strong on immigration.
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  Speaker 3: Starmer looked miserable.
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  Speaker 2: Not to be crass, but he looked like a schoolboy
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  Speaker 2: who just soiled his pants. So I'm watching this and thinking,
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  Speaker 2: how would Anthony Albanese hold up in a presser alongside
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think we all know.
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  Speaker 2: I think Anthony Albanesi knows, which I think is why
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  Speaker 2: Anthony Albanese is so shall we say casual about locking
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  Speaker 2: in an actual appointment.
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  Speaker 10: We'll see each other a lot in the last months
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  Speaker 10: of the year. That's when summit season occurs. Whether Australia
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  Speaker 10: and the United States are both members, of course, of
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  Speaker 10: the G twenty, of the Quad of Apex.
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  Speaker 3: We'll see each other quite a lot in coming.
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  Speaker 2: Months then, And this is my favorite part. Trump was
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  Speaker 2: asked if he was looking forward to it in London,
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  Speaker 2: Sadik Khan, London's woke Muslim mayor has overseen a crime
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  Speaker 2: crisis and some of the most restrictive emissions targets in
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  Speaker 2: the world.
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  Speaker 3: Trump did not hold back.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not a fan of your mayor. I think your manager,
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  Speaker 5: I think he's done a terrible Joe the Mayor of London,
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  Speaker 5: but a nasty person.
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  Speaker 3: I think is a friend of mine Russia.
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  Speaker 5: I think he's done a terrable job.
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  Speaker 2: So here we have Donald Trump, the man our media
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  Speaker 2: insists is a threat to democracy, standing in the heart
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  Speaker 2: of woke Britannia, schooling the Labor government on free speech,
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  Speaker 2: energy policy and urban decay like he's a substitute teacher
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  Speaker 2: with no patients left. You get the idea that Britain
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  Speaker 2: would actually be a much better country.
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  Speaker 3: If Trump visited more often.
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  Speaker 2: Imagine that a regular six month appraisal in front of
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  Speaker 2: the cameras, where the PM has to justify his actions
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  Speaker 2: to an increasingly irritated Donald Trump, if nothing else, would
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  Speaker 2: be good television. And you can bet Anthony Old was
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  Speaker 2: watching all of that on his television. And we all
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  Speaker 2: know what Elbow would have been thinking. You'd have been thinking,
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  Speaker 2: who cares if not seeing Trump sinks orcus and results
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  Speaker 2: in crippling Tariff's Australian industry. There's no way I'm subjecting
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  Speaker 2: myself to any of that. It's a pity for those
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  Speaker 2: of us who'd love to see the Albanezy government held
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  Speaker 2: to account, because Trump would sure do a better job
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  Speaker 2: than the Susan lee let outfit is currently doing.
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  Speaker 11: Well.
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  Speaker 2: There was chaos in New York today as police launched
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  Speaker 2: a massive manhunt following reports of a gunman storming an
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  Speaker 2: office building on Park Avenue and opening fire. Now, if
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  Speaker 2: you were watching CNN, and for your sake, I hoped
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  Speaker 2: that you weren't, you would have caught this remarkable bit
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  Speaker 2: of journalism.
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  Speaker 3: Among them that they did get.
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  Speaker 12: They do know what he looks like, Sunglasses, mustache, mal possibly.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, so, according to CNN, the shooter was possibly white
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  Speaker 2: or not, but possibly maybe.
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  Speaker 3: Let's not rule out whiteness.
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  Speaker 2: Now, why would CNN say possibly white when they had
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  Speaker 2: no confirmed information whatsoever. It's almost as if they were
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  Speaker 2: hoping he was white.
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  Speaker 3: And if you'd been wearing.
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  Speaker 2: A Maga hat, well that's what CNN would have called
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  Speaker 2: Christmas in July.
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  Speaker 3: Let's be honest.
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  Speaker 2: Had CNN said possibly black or possibly Muslim, there would
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  Speaker 2: have been rioting, as in actual rioting, not the kind
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  Speaker 2: CNN call mostly peaceful protests, but less fast.
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  Speaker 3: Forward, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Five minutes ahead after CNN's racially charged clairvoyance, the police
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  Speaker 2: found a suspect and released a photo. I must say
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  Speaker 2: that's a dark shade of white. As you can see
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  Speaker 2: he's possibly white in the same way I'm possibly a
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  Speaker 2: six foot eight Nigerian basketballer about to be drafted.
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  Speaker 3: By the New York Knicks.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, climate hysteria had officially jumped the shark
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  Speaker 2: when Chris Bowen is the voice of moderation in the
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  Speaker 2: development so ironic it could be mistaken for satire. Chris Bowen,
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  Speaker 2: Australia's Minister for Climate Catastrophism, has gently told the United
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  Speaker 2: nations top climate spokesperson to.
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  Speaker 3: You know, maybe tone it down a notch.
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  Speaker 2: Imagine that Chris Bowen, who once warned that climate change
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  Speaker 2: is the greatest threat to our national security, telling the
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  Speaker 2: UN's climate spokesman to.
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  Speaker 3: Cool his jets.
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  Speaker 2: The UN's Executive Secretary for Climate Change, Simon Steele, flew
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  Speaker 2: into Sydney this week to deliver his latest End of
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  Speaker 2: Day's prophecy. Unless the Albanesi government doubles down on its
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  Speaker 2: already economy pulverizing cream energy targets, Australia will descend into
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  Speaker 2: a Mad Max style famine, he said, and I quote,
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  Speaker 2: mega droughts will make fresh fruit and vegetables a once
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  Speaker 2: a year treat I got to say, as climate hysteria goes,
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  Speaker 2: that's a big call. Imagine a future in which bananas
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  Speaker 2: cost more than a small car and an avocado is
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  Speaker 2: auctioned like a picasso. The good news is, if unions
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  Speaker 2: have their way in this country, we might just beat
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  Speaker 2: climate change to it.
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  Speaker 3: But I digress.
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  Speaker 2: Simon Steele said that if the Australian government doesn't increase
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  Speaker 2: its emission reduction targets, our GDP will take a six
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  Speaker 2: point eight trillion dollar hit by twenty fifty. So if
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  Speaker 2: we don't completely destroy our economy with the mission targets,
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  Speaker 2: our economy will be completely destroyed anyway. I think that's
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  Speaker 2: what they call climate science. Naturally, this sort of doomsday
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  Speaker 2: poetry would usually have had Chris Bowen reaching for the
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  Speaker 2: nearest megaphone and wind turbine, But in a surprising display
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  Speaker 2: of uncharacteristic restraint, or maybe just realizing that climate fear
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  Speaker 2: mongering is a foolish game of ever diminishing returns, Bowen
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  Speaker 2: responded with what can only be described as a passive
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  Speaker 2: aggressive eye roll. Bowen said, than, I quote targets are
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  Speaker 2: easier set than met which translated, I think it means, look, mate,
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  Speaker 2: we're already bankrupting ourselves trying to meet the last targets
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  Speaker 2: boh and of course added and I quote, we'll set
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  Speaker 2: a target informed by the expert advice in the national interest.
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  Speaker 2: In other words, we won't be bullied by a bedweather
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  Speaker 2: from the UN when we've got our own bedweathers here
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  Speaker 2: in Caucus and in the Senate, which reminds me, as
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  Speaker 2: climate theatrics go, it's pretty hard to top green Senator
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  Speaker 2: Nick mckim's complete climate breakdown back in twenty twenty three.
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  Speaker 13: People, Senate mckinn, resume your see socia paths like you,
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  Speaker 13: Senator McKim, I'm going to cop interjections from socia paths
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  Speaker 13: like Senator Canavan, I will. And what they've got to
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  Speaker 13: answer for is death, disease, displacement, starvation, people dying of
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  Speaker 13: first arable farming lands turning into desert, and most likely
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  Speaker 13: billions of people dead by.
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  Speaker 1: The end of this section.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my goodness.
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  Speaker 2: But back to the UN's climate spokesman. When Chris Bowen
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  Speaker 2: is listening to your climate retric and saying maybe a
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  Speaker 2: bit much, you might want to review your messaging.
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  Speaker 14: How dare you.
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  Speaker 2: For his part, Bowen was quick to remind everyone that
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  Speaker 2: Australia is already producing record renewable electricity and that our
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  Speaker 2: energy emissions are lower than when the Albanezy government took office.
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  Speaker 2: He left out the part about record energy prices. Sydney
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  Speaker 2: side is being told not to turn their dishwashers on
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  Speaker 2: after dinner, and industry is fleeing the country like climate
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  Speaker 2: activists fleeing a logic seminar. The reality is that for
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  Speaker 2: all his flaws, even Chris Bowen knows that eventually someone
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  Speaker 2: has to explain to actual voters why their actual power
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: bills are skyrocketing and why they're air conditioning only works
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  Speaker 2: on Thursdays. And while the un Simon Steele may believe
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  Speaker 2: that a hotter planet means Australians we were reduced to
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  Speaker 2: bartering for mangoes in the ruins of coals, some of
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  Speaker 2: us still think it's more important to keep the lights
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  Speaker 2: on and the economy functioning than to impress brewercats in Brussels.
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  Speaker 3: In summary, when Chris Bowen.
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  Speaker 2: Is the adult in the climate room, you should probably
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  Speaker 2: check your thermostat because either Hell has just frozen over
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  Speaker 2: or someone finally realized that fear doesn't generate electricity. Well,
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  Speaker 2: I'm about to go to matt Canavan, but as we do,
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  Speaker 2: you'll see some live pictures of Donald Trump. He's in
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  Speaker 2: Aberdeenshar at the moment, and he may be giving a
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  Speaker 2: press conference soon, so if he does, we'll go straight
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  Speaker 2: to him.
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  Speaker 3: But as you can see there, he's on the golf course.
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  Speaker 2: Where else would you expect Donald Trump to be right
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  Speaker 2: now other than a golf course if he's not having
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  Speaker 2: a press conference, embarrassing Kostarma. As I said, if and
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  Speaker 2: when Donald Trump speaks to the media, we'll go straight there.
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  Speaker 2: So that's Trump in Aberdeen, Scotland. I want to talk
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  Speaker 2: gain about the UN Climate spokesman because he didn't just
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  Speaker 2: warn that the world will overheat and fresh fruit and
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  Speaker 2: vegetables could become a once and a year treat Simon
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  Speaker 2: Steel also suggested Australia should cut its mining exports.
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  Speaker 3: Have a listen.
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  Speaker 8: Science tells us we need to transition away from all
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  Speaker 8: fossil fuels as rapidly as possible. So yes, addressing your
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  Speaker 8: own domestic commissions is part of it, but exporting carbon
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  Speaker 8: emissions also needs to be addressed.
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  Speaker 2: Joining me now is National Senator Matt Canavan. Matt, thanks
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  Speaker 2: for coming on the program. You've identified one reason why
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  Speaker 2: mister Steele is so eager for us to stop exporting
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  Speaker 2: colon gas. According to him, will be dead in less
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  Speaker 2: than a year.
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  Speaker 15: Yes, he didn't repeat this claim in his trip to Australia,
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  Speaker 15: but just a year ago this self appointed climates claim
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  Speaker 15: that we she's got two years to save the world. Now,
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  Speaker 15: we've had a number of these clock set by different
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  Speaker 15: alarmis over the years. They never seem to ring true.
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  Speaker 15: It's a bit like the cult leaders saying the end
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  Speaker 15: is nigh. They seem to be loved putting these sandwich
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  Speaker 15: boards on and say we've.
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  Speaker 1: Got two years to live. Well, we're a year.
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  Speaker 15: In to the two year warning, and so perhaps no
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  Speaker 15: wonder that this blike is desperate for us to impoverish
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  Speaker 15: the nation and end our second and third biggest exports.
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  Speaker 15: I mean, this is an absurd suggestion from someone who's
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  Speaker 15: being feted by their labor government. They're treating him almost
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  Speaker 15: like a world leader. They're having more discussions with this
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  Speaker 15: climate stard than they are with the President of the
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  Speaker 15: United States. And this bloke, this bloke is out there
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  Speaker 15: suggesting that Cole and Gash should finish as exports from Australia.
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  Speaker 1: As I say, they're our.
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  Speaker 15: Second and third biggest exports, well over one hundred and
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  Speaker 15: fifty billion dollars of value a year to this country.
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  Speaker 15: And if we end those well, all Australians will be
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  Speaker 15: a lot poorer, especially those of course who work in
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  Speaker 15: these industries. And if this is what the Labor Party
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  Speaker 15: is a little bit of a precursor to what the
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  Speaker 15: Labor Party is planning when they want to host the
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  Speaker 15: Climate conference next year in Australia, it's going to be
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  Speaker 15: a complete and outer waste of time. As I've said
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  Speaker 15: before this the climate conference next year that Labor wants
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  Speaker 15: to hold, it'll be the Voice two point zero. The
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  Speaker 15: UK's Climate conference costs them half a billion dollars five
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  Speaker 15: hundred million dollars. If anywhere like that it costs us
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  Speaker 15: next year, it'll just be like the Voice, completely utterly useless,
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  Speaker 15: just a complete and other waste of money. And shouldn't
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  Speaker 15: our government be focused on lowering power prices for Australians
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  Speaker 15: rather continuing these useless talk fests. They just line the
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  Speaker 15: pockets of major companies, banks and these hangars on that
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  Speaker 15: make a lot of money from the climate agenda.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Chris Bowen responded to Simon Steele by saying that
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  Speaker 2: targets are easier set than met. That's probably the most
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  Speaker 2: honest thing he's ever said as Climate change minister.
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  Speaker 15: Well, it's quite a mild rebuke to obviously it maybe
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  Speaker 15: maybe it is one that a conclusion he's come to
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  Speaker 15: by looking in the mirror because his government has set
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  Speaker 15: an eighty two percent of renewable energy target by twenty thirty. Today,
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  Speaker 15: Ross Garno, someone who's very pro ned zero pro this government,
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  Speaker 15: has come out and said that we're way off meeting
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  Speaker 15: that target, like anybody's sensible looking at the datish seas,
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  Speaker 15: I mean.
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  Speaker 1: What clearly they will be happening here.
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  Speaker 15: In my view it's a Labor Party won't meet it's
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  Speaker 15: immediate targets, those coming due in twenty thirty, so they'll
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  Speaker 15: just set bigger and uglier ones in the future when
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  Speaker 15: they are unlikely to be around, or at least the
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  Speaker 15: current crop politicians are unlikely to be around to be
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  Speaker 15: held accountable for them. Why instead of setting these ridiculous
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  Speaker 15: climate targets which do nothing for the strained people Why
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  Speaker 15: don't we set a cost of living target? Why don't
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  Speaker 15: we set a target to bring down electricity prices, bring
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  Speaker 15: down the cost of everyday items, bring down the cost
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  Speaker 15: of housing and transport for all Australians?
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  Speaker 1: Because please explain to me, James.
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  Speaker 15: Can someone explain how hitting an eighty two percent solar
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  Speaker 15: and wind target in twenty thirty is actually going to
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  Speaker 15: improve the lives of any Australian. How's it going to help?
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  Speaker 15: Because now these were presented as means to an end.
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  Speaker 15: They were presented as ways of getting power prices down.
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  Speaker 15: Now they're just presented as an end like it's the
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  Speaker 15: benefit itself is reaching that target. But how has actually
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  Speaker 15: helped people in their real lives? No one explains that now.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Matt, you said the government should set a target
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  Speaker 2: for bringing power prices down. They did set a target
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  Speaker 2: and that's going about as well. Is there amission's reduction
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  Speaker 2: target or all of that aside? While Chris Bowen is
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: trying to work out how ambitious or not his emission
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: reduction target should be, your own party is debating whether
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: they have targets at all. Earlier today you said it
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: doesn't matter if the coalition debate over that zero gets
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: messy and it's a bit messy at the moment, I
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: must say, But you said right now the coalition is irrelevant.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: Can you explain to me what you meant by that.
• 18:58
  Speaker 15: Well, I just like to face three reality, James. I've
• 19:00
  Speaker 15: always faced reality when it comes to this debate, and
• 19:05
  Speaker 15: the reality is we got thumped at the election. So
• 19:08
  Speaker 15: all this stuff that we're discussing right now in our
• 19:10
  Speaker 15: party room doesn't have that much impact. What is important, though,
• 19:13
  Speaker 15: as I said there is we need to get our
• 19:15
  Speaker 15: house in order and understand what we stand for ahead
• 19:17
  Speaker 15: of the next election, which is three years away.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: So I've been at this.
• 19:22
  Speaker 15: I've been pushing against this radical, costly netsera agenda for
• 19:26
  Speaker 15: three years. Over three years now, I've been consistent the
• 19:29
  Speaker 15: whole time. I can wait another three months. I don't
• 19:31
  Speaker 15: care if it's a little bit messy. If we're out
• 19:33
  Speaker 15: and arguing with each other, I don't have any problem
• 19:36
  Speaker 15: with the difference of opinion. I'm quite comfortable with that.
• 19:39
  Speaker 15: What we need to do, though, is establish what we
• 19:41
  Speaker 15: actually want to fight for ahead of the next election,
• 19:44
  Speaker 15: and in my view, in the last term of parliament,
• 19:47
  Speaker 15: too many cracks were papered over within our coalition.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: You can understand that because.
• 19:52
  Speaker 15: The Labor Party had just a one seat majority to
• 19:54
  Speaker 15: start the term, so we thought maybe just that papering
• 19:57
  Speaker 15: over would get us back in the government. It didn't work.
• 20:00
  Speaker 15: It didn't work. As I say, I'm facing that reality now.
• 20:02
  Speaker 15: I did say that this morning about our relevance, Sir James,
• 20:05
  Speaker 15: But on reflection after question time today, I'm not sure
• 20:08
  Speaker 15: sure I was right because all the government could do
• 20:11
  Speaker 15: was to.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Talk about us.
• 20:13
  Speaker 15: All they did was talk about us today in question time,
• 20:17
  Speaker 15: and so maybe we are more relevant than I think
• 20:19
  Speaker 15: because we seem to be living rent free in their heads,
• 20:21
  Speaker 15: and they certainly can't seem to sprook their own policies
• 20:25
  Speaker 15: at the moment that are leading to higher power prices
• 20:28
  Speaker 15: fewer jobs in this country. So all I've got less
• 20:30
  Speaker 15: to governments to talk about in opposition that they just
• 20:33
  Speaker 15: be and are in no position to change things in
• 20:36
  Speaker 15: the Parliament in the short term.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: Matt.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Both your leader and Susan Lee from the Liberal Party
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: have said they will arrive at a decision on net
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: zero when a review has been completed. When should we
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: expect that? And granted things a bit messy at the moment.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: When will things finally become clear as to where the
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: coalitions stand on net zero?
• 21:00
  Speaker 15: Well, as I say, we have three years, I'm sure
• 21:03
  Speaker 15: it won't take that long. But I not really as
• 21:08
  Speaker 15: I say, in a rush, here really a rush. I
• 21:10
  Speaker 15: mean keep in mind, I mean, I know the media
• 21:12
  Speaker 15: always want this right, but the general public aren't following
• 21:14
  Speaker 15: these things as closely as.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: You and I are.
• 21:17
  Speaker 15: Kevin mind, ahead of the twenty ten election, it was
• 21:20
  Speaker 15: only six months before that election that the then coalition
• 21:23
  Speaker 15: changed leader and to put Tony Abbott in and finally
• 21:26
  Speaker 15: decided that it would oppose Kevin Rudd's carbon pollution reduction scheme.
• 21:30
  Speaker 15: So it did take effectively two and a half years
• 21:32
  Speaker 15: in that term to settle the position, and within six
• 21:35
  Speaker 15: months less than six months later, Kevin Rudd was gone,
• 21:38
  Speaker 15: he was no longer Prime Minister, and Tony Abbit effectively
• 21:40
  Speaker 15: won the twenty ten election, but for Tony Winsor and
• 21:43
  Speaker 15: Roboke Shot frauding their own constituents. So you know, the
• 21:47
  Speaker 15: idea that somehow we need to have all of our
• 21:50
  Speaker 15: policies and decisions made years out from an election is
• 21:53
  Speaker 15: just not consistent with the electoral history. Of this country.
• 21:56
  Speaker 15: People will look close at us ahead of the next election.
• 22:00
  Speaker 15: Right now, what we need to do is establish what
• 22:02
  Speaker 15: we truly believe in, what we think is right for
• 22:03
  Speaker 15: the country, and.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Have that debate. And what I really would hope we do.
• 22:07
  Speaker 15: James, or hope we have the debate for a start,
• 22:10
  Speaker 15: which we haven't had on that zero. And secondly, when
• 22:12
  Speaker 15: we do have that debate, we have it about what's
• 22:14
  Speaker 15: best for the country, not what's best for the party,
• 22:16
  Speaker 15: not what's best for particular individual seats or members of Parliament.
• 22:19
  Speaker 15: Because we'll never win an election if we focus on
• 22:23
  Speaker 15: how is it that we can get more of us
• 22:24
  Speaker 15: in a job? If that is our fundamental guiding principle,
• 22:28
  Speaker 15: we won't win because we need to be able to
• 22:30
  Speaker 15: present to the Australian people a plan that helps them,
• 22:33
  Speaker 15: not us.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: You know, we can't talk.
• 22:34
  Speaker 15: We can't expect people to trust us and support us
• 22:37
  Speaker 15: if all we're talking about and worrying about is how
• 22:39
  Speaker 15: do I keep my seat. We've actually got to make decisions,
• 22:42
  Speaker 15: have courage and be bold and guided by our principles
• 22:46
  Speaker 15: to say this is our plan to make your life better.
• 22:49
  Speaker 15: This is how we think you will do better under
• 22:51
  Speaker 15: a liberal national government and then and then.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: We'll be competitive and possibly win. I think we can
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: absolutely win the next election.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Well, look forward to seeing how all of this unfolds.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Matt Canavan, thanks for your time tonight. Well after the break,
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Anthony Albanesi says claims that Palestinians are not being starved
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: beyond comprehension, but is everything as it seems, and has
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Australia found our very own Greta Tunberg in the form
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: of our newest and youngest senator.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: My panel is up in a moment. Well.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Anthony Albanesi has continued to speak out over the conflict
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: in the Middle East, telling the Labor Caucus that claims
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: there is no starvation in Gaza are quote beyond comprehension.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: This is despite Israel's PM Benjamin Ett Yaho insisting there
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: is no starvation in Gaza and no policy of starvation
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: in Gaza. And while there's no question civilians in Gaza
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: are experiencing terrible conditions, there's been some controversy over the
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: way this crisis has been portrayed in the media. For instance,
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: the photograph of a reportedly starving boy that went right
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: around the world, and that Anthony Albanese himself has commented
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: on well, there are now numerous reports that the boy
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: was suffering from a rare disease that exacerbated his condition.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Others have wondered, why if the boy is skin and
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: bone from starvation, his mother looks comparatively healthy. Now, I
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: don't know the truth of what's going on there. All
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: I know is there are conflicting reports. And then there
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: was this story from CNN today that caught my attention,
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: starving Palestinians complaining it was beneath their dignity to have
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: to fetch food.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: Now dropped from the.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Sky, joining me as Sky and his contributed Joe Hildebrand
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: and the spectators fire at will host Will Kingston. It
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: seems to me where being told the Palestinians are being genocided,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: though not badly enough for harmus to release the hostages
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: and surrender, and Palestinians are being starved, though not badly
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: enough to be grateful for air drops of food. Is
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: that too cynical a take, Will.
• 24:54
  Speaker 11: No, I don't think it is. In fact, I'll maybe
• 24:56
  Speaker 11: more cynical than you, James. I'll present you with the challenge.
• 24:59
  Speaker 11: I'll present from watching with a challenge, could I please
• 25:02
  Speaker 11: get one photograph of a starving Garzen adult. I've seen
• 25:09
  Speaker 11: the photos that you just referenced of kids with cerebral
• 25:12
  Speaker 11: palsy who have mass propagandas have put into photographs to
• 25:17
  Speaker 11: demonstrate or pretend that there is some sort of starvation
• 25:20
  Speaker 11: going on. I've seen ai photographs on the front of
• 25:24
  Speaker 11: the New York Times and other major global publications to
• 25:27
  Speaker 11: try and pretend that there is some sort of mass
• 25:29
  Speaker 11: starvation going on. I still haven't seen one single photograph
• 25:34
  Speaker 11: of a starving Garzen adult. I put that on Twitter
• 25:36
  Speaker 11: the other day, and I've got the usual condemnation.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: No, You're terrible, You're all for your evil. I still
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: haven't seen it.
• 25:43
  Speaker 11: The fact of the matter is that Israel has done
• 25:46
  Speaker 11: more than any other country in the course of human
• 25:49
  Speaker 11: history during warfare to try and support an enemy civilian
• 25:55
  Speaker 11: population during wartime is extraordinary what they have done. Quite frankly,
• 26:00
  Speaker 11: I think it is bordering on anti Semitic what we
• 26:04
  Speaker 11: are hearing from the Australian government with regards to these
• 26:07
  Speaker 11: frankly conspiratorial theories about starvation and all of this sort
• 26:11
  Speaker 11: of thing that's going on with respect to Israeli government in.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Gaza, John Keen to get your takeout Prime Minister is
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: effectively called the Israeli Prime Minister and his ambassador here
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: in Australia liars.
• 26:25
  Speaker 16: Yeah, Look, I think undeniably the conditions in Gaza are
• 26:28
  Speaker 16: absolutely horrific. It's very difficult to get a clear and
• 26:32
  Speaker 16: an unbiased view of what's going on, because of course
• 26:36
  Speaker 16: what government there is is still run by her Maas
• 26:39
  Speaker 16: or what used to be her mass a kind of
• 26:41
  Speaker 16: shell of its former self. If we're to understand how
• 26:44
  Speaker 16: much of the leadership has been taken out, and you
• 26:47
  Speaker 16: have a ban on journalists going in there, so you're
• 26:51
  Speaker 16: not necessarily getting outside a journalist who are able to
• 26:54
  Speaker 16: report on these things, and so you're getting Palestinian journalists
• 26:58
  Speaker 16: who obviously have a particular set of views. I think
• 27:02
  Speaker 16: it's clearly I mean, I think you can believe Benjamin
• 27:04
  Speaker 16: Ettnia when he says there is no policy in starvation,
• 27:08
  Speaker 16: while at the same time saying, well, clearly people some
• 27:11
  Speaker 16: people at least are starving. The word of the Israeli
• 27:15
  Speaker 16: government goes against something like I think one hundred other
• 27:19
  Speaker 16: aid organizations and ngngos, And again you can say, well, yes,
• 27:24
  Speaker 16: for example, might have a particular take, or these organizations
• 27:28
  Speaker 16: might have a particular bias or particular sympathy. But I
• 27:30
  Speaker 16: think when it gets to you know, Israel's word against
• 27:34
  Speaker 16: pretty much literally everybody else, I think there's pretty clearly
• 27:39
  Speaker 16: something happening that is catastrophic. And yes, you can say
• 27:42
  Speaker 16: that this is the fault of Hamas and Hermas is
• 27:45
  Speaker 16: hijacking these supplies, and maybe that's why Israel is reluctant
• 27:49
  Speaker 16: to provide as much as they otherwise would, although I
• 27:52
  Speaker 16: know they have actually increased their supplies, so it seems
• 27:56
  Speaker 16: that even they are conceding that what they were doing
• 27:57
  Speaker 16: before wasn't enough. But you know, just because Hamas is
• 28:01
  Speaker 16: evil and is using its population as human shields, doesn't
• 28:04
  Speaker 16: mean that everyone else has to play that game too
• 28:07
  Speaker 16: and say, well, Hamas is using you, you know, starving
• 28:10
  Speaker 16: you to death for propaganda purposes, and we're just going
• 28:13
  Speaker 16: to let that happen. So I think a lot of
• 28:15
  Speaker 16: these things can be true. At the same time, I
• 28:17
  Speaker 16: don't think it's helpful to call it genocide or throw
• 28:20
  Speaker 16: names around or get outraged by it. But I think
• 28:23
  Speaker 16: it's equally it'd be naive to say that you know,
• 28:25
  Speaker 16: everything's going fine and there is no starvation, there is
• 28:28
  Speaker 16: no problem.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: Home to Australia, and yeah, sure we'll go ahead, Joe.
• 28:37
  Speaker 11: Don't you think it is odd notwithstanding everything you've said,
• 28:40
  Speaker 11: and I agree that not everything is rosy there of course,
• 28:43
  Speaker 11: that you have not seen a single image or piece
• 28:46
  Speaker 11: of physical evidence to demonstrate starvation in Gaza apart from
• 28:50
  Speaker 11: the here so that you've just mentioned.
• 28:52
  Speaker 16: Yeah, look at it's very difficult to know. I mean
• 28:54
  Speaker 16: not everyone who you know star You can be very
• 28:57
  Speaker 16: very hungry before you end up looking like, you know,
• 28:59
  Speaker 16: actively a skeletal you know, s caedezal human form. You
• 29:05
  Speaker 16: can have people who are you know, who have been
• 29:08
  Speaker 16: had food two weeks ago, who might be starving and
• 29:12
  Speaker 16: might be struggling to eat, and there have been plenty
• 29:14
  Speaker 16: of reports of people saying that, including journals on the ground.
• 29:17
  Speaker 16: But they don't look skeletal. They don't look as horrific
• 29:20
  Speaker 16: as the photo of that boy that's been circulating around
• 29:23
  Speaker 16: the world. So you know, not every hungry or starving
• 29:26
  Speaker 16: person looks like you know that, you know, the fly
• 29:30
  Speaker 16: bitten you know, Ethiopian image of the nineteen eighties, or
• 29:34
  Speaker 16: indeed the extreme image that we saw on the front
• 29:37
  Speaker 16: page of the Daily Express. And I think the fact
• 29:38
  Speaker 16: you're getting so many conservative outlets and conservatives who would
• 29:43
  Speaker 16: be very pro Israel allies normally saying all right, this
• 29:46
  Speaker 16: is actually enough. I mean, either they've all been sucked
• 29:49
  Speaker 16: in as well despite their previous support, or this is
• 29:52
  Speaker 16: a bit of a turning point.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: I think what's interesting is the fact that there are
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: questions and valid question in the same time great concern.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: For the Palestinians there.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: It's just interesting the way how government is just so
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: hardline to disbelieve anything the Israeli say. I want to
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: bring it home for a second, because Pauline Hanson moved
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: a motion in the Senate yesterday to scrap net zero.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: But I want to get your reaction to Senator Charlotte
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Walker's reply. Senator Walker is, of course the twenty one
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: year old labor senator here she was.
• 30:25
  Speaker 14: The motion put forward by Senator Hanson to scrap net
• 30:28
  Speaker 14: zero indicates a severe lack of knowledge and a complete
• 30:32
  Speaker 14: disregard for the future of our generation, the future of
• 30:36
  Speaker 14: our country.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: Joe, have we found our own Greta Tunberg?
• 30:42
  Speaker 11: Look?
• 30:42
  Speaker 16: I think you know I'm a big fan of the
• 30:44
  Speaker 16: apocryphal Winston Churchill quiet and fact. It's been attributed to
• 30:47
  Speaker 16: just about everyone that if you're not a socialist at
• 30:49
  Speaker 16: a teen, you have no heart, and if you're still
• 30:51
  Speaker 16: a socialist at forty, you have no head. I would
• 30:54
  Speaker 16: expect a young, young, idealistic senator to be all in
• 30:58
  Speaker 16: on such matters, and I find it very heartwarming. I
• 31:01
  Speaker 16: thought Pauline Hanson's most was pretty silly, and so did
• 31:04
  Speaker 16: virtually the entire Senate. So I think I think Charlotte
• 31:08
  Speaker 16: is simply saying what what most people of her generation
• 31:11
  Speaker 16: would say, and is reflecting what most senators felt about
• 31:15
  Speaker 16: the silliness of the motion.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Let me ask you will, because Senator Walker told the
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Senate that Pauline Hanson was a know nothing just hours
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: after she'd posted this video, will.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: The next lap I'm gonna be rucking over that based
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: trip crew making on them because you want to do.
• 31:40
  Speaker 14: Me, Let's flips the on one handa flips and I'm
• 31:43
  Speaker 14: gonna be sipping don't.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: And as I said, not long after calling Pauline Hanson
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: and know nothing in the Senate, what was your take
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: on that, Joe?
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: If it started?
• 31:56
  Speaker 11: I don't think Wincent Churchill was specifically referring to people
• 32:00
  Speaker 11: elected office when he made that quote, and if he was,
• 32:02
  Speaker 11: he was hoping that they had been elected office after
• 32:05
  Speaker 11: they reached the age of forty, not when they were
• 32:07
  Speaker 11: the idiots at the age of twenty. This extraordinary, how
• 32:09
  Speaker 11: this absolute dunce has managed to get into the Australian
• 32:12
  Speaker 11: Parliament at the age of twenty one.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: Like good honor.
• 32:15
  Speaker 11: I'm sure it's a lovely girl and all that sort
• 32:16
  Speaker 11: of stuff, but you know, I think she did a
• 32:18
  Speaker 11: couple of year shuffling papers in a union office or something.
• 32:21
  Speaker 11: She's got no experience whatsoever. It is a sad indictment
• 32:24
  Speaker 11: on the current state of Australian politics that she is
• 32:26
  Speaker 11: in the Senate and she's spouting all of the sorts
• 32:29
  Speaker 11: of tropes that, in fairness to her, her generation has
• 32:33
  Speaker 11: been taught through twelve years of schooling. It is sad,
• 32:37
  Speaker 11: but it is unfortunately it is a reflection of where
• 32:40
  Speaker 11: we are at as a country and where our polity
• 32:43
  Speaker 11: polity is.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Indeed, Will Kingston, Joe Hildebrand, thanks for your time tonight.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: Well stick around because coming up after the break, I'll
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: ask author and commentator Andrew Claven why actress Sidney Sweeney's
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: latest advertisement is being dubbed Nazi propaganda. Plus, we'll talk
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: about what really went on with Trump and Epstein.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: That in the moment. Welcome back to the program.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Joining me now is my favorite author and commentator, Andrew Claven. Andrew,
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: thanks for coming on the program tonight. I want to
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: talk to about Donald Trump, who has been in the
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: UK or Scotland rather, where he met with UK Prime
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Minister Kirs Starmer. The pair had a long discussion on
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: a number of issues, including the situation in the Middle
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: East and the war in Ukraine. Here's what President Trump
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: had to say about the situation in Gaza.
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: We're going to be getting some good strength for we
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: can save a lot of people. I mean, some of
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: those kids are that's real starvation stuff. I see it,
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: and you can't fake that. So we're going to be
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: even more. We did some air lifts before, some air drops,
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: and the people are running for it, and the Prime
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: Minister is going to help us. They're very effective with that.
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: You've done that before and for many they've done that
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: for one hundred years.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: Very well, so, Andrew.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Obviously, the whole world is talking about the situation in Gaza,
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: and there's a small matter of fifty hostages still under
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: the tunnels in Gaza. What do you make of the
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: president's comments there, Well.
• 34:19
  Speaker 6: Of course he's right that there's tremendous suffering going on.
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: There always is suffering in a war zone. There's always
• 34:24
  Speaker 6: more people who civilians heard in war zones than soldiers,
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: and that's what's happening.
• 34:29
  Speaker 9: Now.
• 34:30
  Speaker 6: What's appalling is that it really is the United Nations
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: apparently conspiring to keep a that the Israelis would happily
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: let in, and Hamas, of course, you know, colluding with
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: the UN to make sure there's as much suffering as possible.
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: It's hard to believe, it's hard for civilized people to believe,
• 34:48
  Speaker 6: but Hamas and they're like, use civilian suffering in order
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: to turn the opinions of people against Israel as if
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: they were the cause, instead of the fact that they
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: haven't released these hostages. I think Trump is not fooled,
• 35:01
  Speaker 6: but he's also quite right that the suffering is real
• 35:03
  Speaker 6: no matter who is doing it. And I think it
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: will be a good thing if we can get it
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: in there, and if we can get it past the
• 35:10
  Speaker 6: UN conspirators and Homas to the people who actually need it.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: The President also confirmed he would shorten the fifty day
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: window that he offered Vladimir Putin earlier this month for
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: a ceasefire deal to be agreed or face sanctions and tariff's.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: The deadline is now ten to twelve days. Seems to
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: me like Trumps pretty much given up on any good
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: faith negotiations with Putin, so he's just fast forwarding to
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: sanctions and tariffs.
• 35:37
  Speaker 6: Now, yeah, he's sick and tired of Putin seeing one
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: thing on the phone and then bombing people in Kiev.
• 35:44
  Speaker 6: I think the thing is American presidents have historically been
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: fooled by Putin. We had Barack Obama sending vlad the
• 35:53
  Speaker 6: idea that he would be more flexible after his last election.
• 35:56
  Speaker 6: We had George W. Bush saying he looked into Putin,
• 35:59
  Speaker 6: Saul or whatever he did, and saw what a great
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: guy was. But Donald Trump has an excuse, which is
• 36:03
  Speaker 6: that the Putin he's dealing with in this administration is
• 36:06
  Speaker 6: a different person, essentially than the Putin he was dealing
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: with in the first administration. In his first administration, Putin
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: and he had shared interest, economic interests, things that they
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: could negotiate about which is Trump's strong student where he
• 36:19
  Speaker 6: feels comfortable, and so he had a perfectly good relationship
• 36:22
  Speaker 6: with Putin despite the fact he is what he is.
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: But now this is a man who has gone into
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: a war and he is now knee deep in the
• 36:28
  Speaker 6: big money and he doesn't really know how to get
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: out of it. And the thing about a dictator is
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: if you don't get out of it something like this,
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: you tend to disappear. So Putin is really not just
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: fighting for the Ukraine. He's fighting for his life, and
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: he doesn't really have a lot of leeway to be
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: flexible in negotiations. And I think that Trump has now
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: figured that out and is now just going to do
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: what he can to make them suffer. You have to
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: remember that we don't trade with Russia, so whatever sanctions
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: we put on are going to be put on indirectly,
• 36:57
  Speaker 6: and I don't know how much of an effect it
• 36:59
  Speaker 6: will have. At least he's sending the signal that he
• 37:01
  Speaker 6: gets it now and that he's not dealing with the
• 37:04
  Speaker 6: man who's negotiating good faith.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Okay, so all of that is going on, the President
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: is still dealing with this small matter of Jeffrey Epstein.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Trump's currently suing the Wall Street Journal for stories that
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: he claims are fake, including that he sent a birthday
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: card to Epstein with the drawing of a naked woman
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: on it. Here's some of what Trump told reporters who
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: keep hounding him on the Jeffrey Epstein issue.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: I never went to the island.
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: But Larry Summers, I hear went there. He was the
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: head of Harvard and many other people that are very
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: big people. Nobody ever talks about them. I never had
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: the privilege of going to his island, and I did
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: turn it down, but a lot of people in Palm
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: Beach were invited to his island. In one of my
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: very good moments, I turned it down.
• 37:48
  Speaker 9: I didn't want to go to his island.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: Andrew, I'm really interested to get your take on the
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Epstein issue, particularly as it pertains to the relationship with
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump. Is this something that journalists will just keep
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: pushing continually and it will pretty much be impossible for
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: Trump to distance himself from it.
• 38:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah, this is an unusual unforced error on Trump's part.
• 38:11
  Speaker 6: It's not so much what he did, it was the
• 38:13
  Speaker 6: way that he did it. This is something that both Cash,
• 38:16
  Speaker 6: Betel the head of our Federal Bureau of Investigation, and
• 38:19
  Speaker 6: his sidekicked Dan Bengino, who I think is a terrific
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: guy and very trustworthy. This is something before they joined
• 38:25
  Speaker 6: the FBI, they said, there's secret files. We want these
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: files to released. We will make sure they're released. If
• 38:30
  Speaker 6: Trump had simply let them come out before the cameras
• 38:33
  Speaker 6: and explain how their position to change what they had
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: actually seen, if he'd let them just show the information
• 38:38
  Speaker 6: that they had and show why they changed their mind,
• 38:41
  Speaker 6: that probably would have ended the story. But instead the
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: information was leaked at the end of a holiday weekend
• 38:47
  Speaker 6: to a kind of left wing, you know, center left
• 38:51
  Speaker 6: news organization Axios, and it just felt like we were
• 38:54
  Speaker 6: being kind of shoved off, that the people who had
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: been promised more information were being kind of kicked out
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: of the way. And he went even so far as
• 39:02
  Speaker 6: to call them stupid for falling into the Democrat game.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, we're going live to Scotland, Aberdeen, whereas you can see,
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump is about to cut a ribbon to open
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: a new golf course and we'll listen in and see
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: what he's got to say.
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: Last night, I also want to thank your first Minister
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: who's here? John? Would you stand up? John Swinney who
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: was a terrific guy and loves golf and loves the
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: people of this country, and we really appreciate it. You're
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: really very special guy. Thank you very much for everything. Jean,
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: my son Eric has worked so hard on this and
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: it's been truly a labor of love for him. And
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: we started with a beautiful piece of land, but we
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: made it much more beautiful. And the area has given
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: us really really welcomed us. If you remember, at the beginning,
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: it wasn't quite a welcome, but it wasn't bad. But
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: with time they've liked us more and more. Now they
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: love us, We love them. They've really put it out
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: and they know how good this whole complex is. Trump International.
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: We have the first course, which we call the Old Course,
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: and the second course, which we call the New Course,
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: because that's the best way to describe anything else gets
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: too complicated. They don't know which is which, but they
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: know the old and the new and it's going to
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: be something very special. And the big question is which
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: is going to be better, if there's such a thing.
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: Because we've had such great ratings on the first I
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: don't know if you can match them on the second,
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: but the second should be every bit as good. The
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: land is of equal quality right on the North Sea,
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: and it's going to be really, it's going.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: To be great.
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: I look forward to playing it today. We'll play it
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: very quickly, and then I go back to DC and
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: we put out fires all over the world. We did
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: one yesterday's. You know, we stopped the war, but we've
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: stopped about five wars. So that's much more important than
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: playing golf, as much as I like, it's much more important.
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: I want to just thank Sarah Malone for having been
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: with us right now. From the beginning, she was young
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: and not experienced. Now she's still young and very experienced.
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: So I just want to thank you and and my
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: son Don for being with us all the way. Has
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: always been with us. And he's a great guy. And
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: he's got some great golfers in the family, Kai and
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: he's got one right over there, that little one. She
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: may be one of the most talented in the whole family.
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: He's something special, right, So that's Chloe. You'll be reading
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: about her someday walking down the eighteenth hall of some
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: great course. I think, right, she's very talented. Actually, so
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: I just want to thank everybody. This has been an
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: unbelievable development of land. They said it couldn't get zoned,
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: it was an impossibility, and Sean Connery said, let the
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: bloody bloke build his golf course. Once he said that,
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: everything came into line. John and I were talking about
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: it last night. Everything came into line. I want to
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: thank By the way, the primary was here last night
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: and was really very gracious and loves the place, loves
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: the area. So I just want to thank you very
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: much for coming and we gave him a little preview
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: and it was really very nice. And we just signed
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: a very big deal, as you know, with the European Union,
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: but also with the United Kingdom. The United Kingdom was
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: a week before and it's a very big deal and
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: a great deal for the country, and it's a great
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: deal for everybody. So I just want to thank him
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: and everybody that works so hard on they've been trying
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: to get it done for twelve years. We got it done,
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: so somebody did a good job. So I just guess
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: we're going to be hitting a couple of balls and
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: we're going to play the round, and Laura, I want
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: to thank you with the head of the Republican Party
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: for during the election, which was the time they counted,
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: and she was fantastic. And Ron and Larry, thank you
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: very much and everybody. We just had tremendous, tremendous support
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: from everybody, especially the family. These are very hard to build,
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: and you won't be built anymore. You'll probably never see
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: another course built in the dunes, not dunes like this.
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: For the groundskeepers, who I know so well from number one,
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: the first thing I said, which is better the older
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: the new? And they were unable to give me an
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: answer they actually meant it. But great job you've done
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: with your course, superintendent, who's been here for a long time.
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: And we just want to thank you and to all
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: of our friends, to all of our great friends, thank
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: you very much. So I'll be playing quickly and then
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: I'll be heading back and I look forward to that,
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: but I really look forward to playing. So thank you everybody,
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: and thank you to the media. The meat has been terrific.
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: Believe it or not. I didn't use them. See I
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: didn't use the word fake news one time, not one time.
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: Today they're not fake news today, they're wonderful news. But
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: I just want to thank you. They've treated us really
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: well and they respect what we've done really at a
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: level that you rarely see nowadays. So I really very
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: much appreciate it. And we're going to go out. We're
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: gonna have a good time. Thank you, all of the
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: dignitaries and all of my friends. It's going to be
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: a special day, and it's going to be a special year,
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: and it's going to be a special decade, and we're
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: going to make all of our countries strong and great
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: and really wonderful again. And that's happening, and it's happening
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: very fast. And we love Scotland. My mother was born
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: here and she loved it. She would come back here
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: religiously once a year during the summers with my sister
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: Marianne and sometimes my sister Elizabeth. But they would come
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: here religiously and stornaway. That's serious Scotland, by the way,
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: there's no doubt about that. So the Isle of Lewis
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: I want to just thank everybody and have a good
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: time today, play well, enjoy yourselves and many many years
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: we'll see each other many many years. Thank you very
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: much everybody.
• 44:48
  Speaker 12: And ladies and gentlemen. Before we cut the ribbon. We
• 44:50
  Speaker 12: want to present something to a very very special person,
• 44:52
  Speaker 12: a person who's truly become a member of our family,
• 44:55
  Speaker 12: and that's Sarah Malone. She's dumped sixteen years of her
• 44:58
  Speaker 12: life into this incredible.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: Well he's to cut the ribbon there in Aberdeen Sheer.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: So we've got the pictures there on the screen. I
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: might bring in our panel, Graham Lloyd and Michael Danby
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: just as Trump is lining up there to officially open
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: the golf course.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: Trump's a remarkable president.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: One minute he's stopping wars, the next minute he's opening
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: golf courses, and ever the entertainer, always enjoy.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: The way he talks to the media.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: So as you can see there, this is a brand
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: new golf course in the dunes, and he will cut
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: the ribbon with style, no doubt. Let me bring in
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: our panel Graham, Michael. What do you think of Trump
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: there talking about how one minute yesterday I'm stopping wars
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: and today I'm opening a golf course.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: It's just typical Trump.
• 45:48
  Speaker 17: Really, Yes, well that's right. I mean, what do you
• 45:54
  Speaker 17: say that He stopped five wars in the last few days,
• 45:57
  Speaker 17: so he's on a roll. Now he's building golf course
• 46:01
  Speaker 17: in the sand journes that you'll never be allowed to
• 46:02
  Speaker 17: do again. And it's all thanks to Sean Connery. So
• 46:06
  Speaker 17: the guy lives a charmed life.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: Entertaining. You've got to say, is he did not It
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: was a very good day, he said, but he didn't
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: do that.
• 46:19
  Speaker 18: He was very smart not to accept that invitation. But
• 46:24
  Speaker 18: he's a remarkable person. Just look at the contrast between
• 46:26
  Speaker 18: him and He's Starmer at that press conference on issues
• 46:29
  Speaker 18: of free speech and immigration, and look, love him or
• 46:33
  Speaker 18: hate him. If I was an American, the main thing
• 46:36
  Speaker 18: I'd look to the fact is that there's no more
• 46:38
  Speaker 18: eleven million undocumented people coming across to you with southern border,
• 46:44
  Speaker 18: and you have to give him credit for it.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, certainly when a reporter asked Keir Starmer at
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: that press conference, what do you think of Trump's success
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: in stopping illegal immigration? As I said earlier in the show,
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: so Trump didn't even have to say a word, and
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: Kir Starmer was squirming. In fact, I heard journalists Graham
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: say they love that press conference because they were able
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: to put Kir Starmer on the spot by asking Donald
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Trump questions.
• 47:16
  Speaker 17: I think that's right, and it's a public service, isn't it.
• 47:19
  Speaker 17: You've got a guy here who speaks his mind and
• 47:21
  Speaker 17: calls things out. I think his comments, particularly about the
• 47:26
  Speaker 17: proliferation of wind turbines across Scotland, are well made and
• 47:30
  Speaker 17: would be appreciated by people there who know they're basically
• 47:34
  Speaker 17: paying for these things to not generate electricity. So I
• 47:37
  Speaker 17: think he brings a refreshing frame of mind to political discourse.
• 47:42
  Speaker 17: Whether you agree with them, or like him or dislike him,
• 47:46
  Speaker 17: It's something that world leaders really need to be subjected to.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: While we're watching Trump there at the golf course, I
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: want to ask both of you about tariffs, because Trump
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: has postulate that he may just apply twenty percent tariff
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: across the board for nations that don't yet have deals. Obviously,
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: Australia currently has a ten percent trade tariff with the US.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: This would be a much worse position.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: And of course we're in this spot because Albaneze still
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: hasn't organized a meeting with Donald Trump.
• 48:18
  Speaker 18: Michael, he's going to meet him on the sidelines of
• 48:21
  Speaker 18: international conferences. Oh yeah, twenty minutes here or ten minutes there.
• 48:26
  Speaker 18: It's pathetic. We should have been there at the inauguration.
• 48:30
  Speaker 18: We should have been there since then. I'm sure despite
• 48:33
  Speaker 18: all of the people's fears about him, rud is trying hard.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: But it's a hopeless cause.
• 48:40
  Speaker 18: If we get an extra ten percent on the tariff's
• 48:45
  Speaker 18: so twenty rather than ten. It's one of the worst
• 48:49
  Speaker 18: failures in Australian foreign policy and is down to Wong
• 48:54
  Speaker 18: and Elbow. So you can spend day and night thanks
• 48:58
  Speaker 18: with the ABC discussing gars Are and bashing up on
• 49:01
  Speaker 18: the Israelis, but the real Australian national interest is not
• 49:05
  Speaker 18: looked after all seven days, including the Great Wall of
• 49:08
  Speaker 18: China and Bandas, but nothing on Taiwan's human rights or Tibet.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Graham, if that twenty percent tariff does end up
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: applying to Australia and Trump said you'll make up his
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: mind fairly soon, it's just a massive failure on the
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: part of our government in terms of Australian business.
• 49:33
  Speaker 17: Well, I think that's certainly. The criticism there about engagement
• 49:36
  Speaker 17: is well made. We haven't been in the room, we
• 49:39
  Speaker 17: haven't been able to make the negotiations with Donald Trump.
• 49:44
  Speaker 17: But what's coming through very clearly is that Australia is
• 49:47
  Speaker 17: a bit player in the whole thing. We're sort of
• 49:49
  Speaker 17: being dragged along in the other basket, if you like.
• 49:54
  Speaker 17: So Donald Trump's flip flopping. It's ten percent here, it's
• 49:57
  Speaker 17: twenty percent there, it's going to be twenty five percent
• 49:59
  Speaker 17: on main exports, and then suddenly pharmaceuticals are in the frame.
• 50:04
  Speaker 17: It's really a very difficult situation on the trade front,
• 50:07
  Speaker 17: and I think the biggest blessing is that we're not
• 50:10
  Speaker 17: really that exposed to the US as a trading partner.
• 50:14
  Speaker 17: But this whole tariff episode has to play through the
• 50:19
  Speaker 17: global trading world and we'll have to see where we
• 50:21
  Speaker 17: end up.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: Of course, we wouldn't be in this position if there
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: was some sort of personal relationship between Albanezi and Trump.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: The thing that gets my goat, Michael, is you watch
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: Trump meeting with leaders like Kirs Starmer, who couldn't be
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: more ideologically different to Trump, and yet star has taken
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: the effort to build a personal relationship. Trump will meet
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: with King Charles Again. They've got massive differences, I would say,
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: in terms of ideology, but they've built a relationship. Alban
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: ideological differences, but it hasn't been to build the relationship.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: You've absolutely nailed it. How could he be so free
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: with Keirs Starmer.
• 51:02
  Speaker 19: In fact, he says, you know, he's a bit more
• 51:04
  Speaker 19: liberal than me, but we're good friends. And it actually
• 51:10
  Speaker 19: is proof of why Australia needs to have those meetings
• 51:12
  Speaker 19: with him personally, because he the administration is very much
• 51:17
  Speaker 19: from the top and he makes personal decisions about people.
• 51:21
  Speaker 19: The fact that our guy has never meet him and
• 51:24
  Speaker 19: he's been in for months, he will think that that's
• 51:26
  Speaker 19: weird when he eventually does get.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: To meet him. I hope that we don't have a.
• 51:31
  Speaker 18: Disastrous meeting where Albow is forced to sit in the
• 51:34
  Speaker 18: Zelenski chair, because even though Trump's now doing the right
• 51:38
  Speaker 18: thing and defending Ukraine against Russian aggression, Zolensky was in
• 51:44
  Speaker 18: a terrible position for weeks there, and I hope Albo
• 51:48
  Speaker 18: doesn't do the same for Australia.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, like I said in my opening, I think
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: Anthony Alberanezi watching.
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: You mentioned Zelensky. I mean that was terrible.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: But even what Kiir Starma today talking about immigration and
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: energy policy and Trump making perfect sense whilst Starma sat
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: there awkwardly, I don't think Albanezy wants to do that.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: Michael Graham, thanks for your time. Tonight, and that's all
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: the time I've got but stick around. Coming up now
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: is Sherry, hosted by Deniko de Giorgio.
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: Good Night,