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Trekcast 441: Terrarium · Star Trek Podcast: Trekcast

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  Speaker 1: Trek, the Galaxy's most unpredictable Star Trek podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Why Idaho, New York in Michigan.
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  Speaker 3: This is Trek Castle, Galaxy's most unpredictable Star Trek podcast.
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  Speaker 3: Let's see Today on the show, we're going to talk
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  Speaker 3: about the strange New World episode Terrarium. Plus we've got
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  Speaker 3: Star Trek News and your listener feedback. I am Scott's
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  Speaker 3: Strong Beard Bowders with Daniel Reyes and now the man
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  Speaker 3: with the okayest beard, Dan Lombardo.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, it's the Omega Beard. Come on, mega Beard.
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  Speaker 3: I mispronounced that. I mispronounced that. Oh man, Yeah, let'na
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  Speaker 3: be fighting words, Dan.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the great beard off has begun.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I listened to the show last weekend.
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  Speaker 6: The gray beard off, Beard off either one.
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  Speaker 3: I think the camera's hiding it, but I got quite
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  Speaker 3: a few grayish, whitish gandolf hairs in there too, so
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  Speaker 3: I've got to go, yeah, oh, you do you have
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  Speaker 3: beard hairsty?
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  Speaker 1: That's right, that's right.
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  Speaker 2: Both my beard hairs are gray.
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  Speaker 1: I'll do of them. That's right there.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, how's already doing? You were you were.
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  Speaker 6: In the military. I'm sure you've heard the term he
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  Speaker 6: shaved for the chocolate bar. Have you ever heard that one?
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  Speaker 1: Sure?
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  Speaker 6: Sure, yeah, yeah, Daniel could actually shave the chocolate bar.
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  Speaker 2: That's right, that's right, that's right. Yeah, yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 3: One of the most uncomfortable moments in the military I
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  Speaker 3: ever had was drill sergeant.
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  Speaker 2: Came up to me and he's like, did you.
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  Speaker 3: Shave, soldier? And I said, yes, Treil Sartin. He goes,
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  Speaker 3: when did you shave? And I said last night? Real sorry,
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  Speaker 3: this is like five o'clock in the morning. He got
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  Speaker 3: I mean his his I could, I could, I could
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  Speaker 3: tell what he had for breakfast that morning. He got
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  Speaker 3: so close to me, it was it was very, very
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  Speaker 3: homo erotic.
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  Speaker 2: He just looked at me. He got right up in
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  Speaker 2: my face.
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  Speaker 3: He's like un assceptible and like Roger that Dril sart.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, he just wanted to He just wanted to get
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  Speaker 1: close to me.
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  Speaker 2: And now I enjoyed not shaving.
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  Speaker 7: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well we got special Forces. He because you know
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  Speaker 2: Space Force.
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  Speaker 3: You know they normally make you shave, but he must
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  Speaker 3: be the special forces kind.
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  Speaker 6: Well, you know, I don't get the seal on my
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  Speaker 6: face anymore with the with the mosk.
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  Speaker 3: Right, I'm allowed to have the beard now, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: your your space.
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  Speaker 4: Doesn't matter in space? Worce.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have the little light ups on your shoulders
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  Speaker 1: as well?
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  Speaker 7: No, no, we do not.
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  Speaker 6: We do not have the uh uh target acquisition lights
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  Speaker 6: as I like to right?
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  Speaker 2: Oh oh do the do the do the mag boots
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  Speaker 2: have their own spilt in sound effects?
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  Speaker 7: Yes?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, perfect, except that in space you can't hear them.
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  Speaker 6: You can hear them in the laps.
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  Speaker 1: That's right, that's right.
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  Speaker 2: That's great.
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  Speaker 1: Do they light up green? Just so you know it's
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  Speaker 1: on not the fact that you stick to the ground.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to space force cast everybody.
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  Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. We're learning so much today.
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  Speaker 2: Oh Daniel, how you do it?
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  Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm good. It's it's my brother's birthday month.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, happy birthday?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well his birthday's not until the fourteenth, But just
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  Speaker 1: because he has a down syndrome doesn't mean he's stupid,
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  Speaker 1: and he realizes that we will celebrate as much as
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  Speaker 1: he wants all.
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  Speaker 2: Month long, a long happy birthday.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So we went out to Tai food with him last
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  Speaker 1: night and he was so excited.
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  Speaker 2: That's awesome.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, but uh oh, you guys have been what
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  Speaker 1: you been up to, dan Ah the grudge go.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: So the garuge sale was was okay. We did it
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  Speaker 6: Sunday and Monday, okay because those were not because we
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  Speaker 6: felt those were the best days, but mostly because I
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  Speaker 6: couldn't get my acts together in time to do it
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  Speaker 6: on Saturday. We made a few hard bucks. But what
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  Speaker 6: was nice is I just sat out on the driveway
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  Speaker 6: for hours with my wife, sipping coffee and chatting, and
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  Speaker 6: I said to her, you know, we should do this
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  Speaker 6: again next week, not a yard sale, just sit outside
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  Speaker 6: zip coffee.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, nice, nice.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I forgot to supply your yard sale.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't send you a Michael Burnham, you know, like
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  Speaker 3: a daily plan. I'm sorry, I'll let me know, let
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  Speaker 3: me know the next time you have a grade sale,
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  Speaker 3: I'll send you another one.
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  Speaker 1: You got to know, how were those devil dogs.
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  Speaker 4: I did not purchase the devil dogs.
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  Speaker 7: I just saw them and and you know, I thought
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  Speaker 7: of you guys.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I have fond memories of those devil dogs. For
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  Speaker 3: those who don't remember or don't know, haven't been listening
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  Speaker 3: that long. Dan once sent me a package of double dogs.
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  Speaker 2: That was great. I could not stop laughing.
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  Speaker 4: For those For those who are not longtime listeners.
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  Speaker 6: I used the phrase devil dog on the show thinking
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  Speaker 6: that Drakes was a national company and currently Drake's is
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  Speaker 6: a regional company, and and uh, most people outside of
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  Speaker 6: the Northeast had no idea what I was talking about.
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  Speaker 6: Fast forward to a week later, I'm mailing devil dogs
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  Speaker 6: all over the country.
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  Speaker 1: That's right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just found myself doing the card maneuver.
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  Speaker 1: Oh nice.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, oh I'm looking, I'm wrinkly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, should we get yeah, should we get to
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  Speaker 1: the news then? Yeah, we're doing all this talk. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: do you got some in the car?
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  Speaker 4: Let me just go to the devil dog container.
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  Speaker 1: You know, some kids might want snacks. Maybe you got some,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Star Trek news.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so our first bit of Star Trek news
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  Speaker 1: comes first from screen rants and uh, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if you know this, but is Star Trek Day. It
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  Speaker 1: is the anniversary allegedly, it's the anniversary of Star Trek
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  Speaker 1: premiering on uh, you know on NBC. Yeah, NBC in
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  Speaker 1: nineteen sixty six. So yeah, that happened on September eighth.
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  Speaker 1: So that is the big anniversary, so they call it
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  Speaker 1: Star Trek Day. But another thing that's happening tomorrow, which
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  Speaker 1: we do with Star Trek Show. Right, Like we keep
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  Speaker 1: up on this, you would think we would know this
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  Speaker 1: was coming. This is the first that I see on it,
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  Speaker 1: and it's coming out tomorrow. Star Trek Con will be
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  Speaker 1: released tomorrow. That audio podcast thing they're doing. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so you can go look on your on your podcast
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  Speaker 1: catchers and apps and you can sign up for it.
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  Speaker 1: It's supposed to hit tomorrow. I imagine it'll be a
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  Speaker 1: weekly thing. I don't think they're gonna just dump it
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  Speaker 1: all that one. But I didn't know what was coming
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  Speaker 1: out tomorrow. So your guess is as good as mine. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so there you go. Okay, Yeah, Scott's like, all right,
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  Speaker 1: adding it to my phone.
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  Speaker 2: I get I just added it right now, So here
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  Speaker 2: we go.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. So yeah, that's that's the first
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  Speaker 1: news story. Next one comes to us from trekmovie dot com.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know if you've guys have been watching
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  Speaker 1: the New Alien Earth show on Hulu.
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  Speaker 2: No I have not.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So the show creator, Noah Holly, is out there
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  Speaker 1: making the rounds and doing interviews and Originally, Noah Holly
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  Speaker 1: was going to produce a Star Trek film. So because
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  Speaker 1: he's out the line, right, yeah, one of the many.
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  Speaker 1: But because he was out promoting Alien, he talked a
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  Speaker 1: little bit about uh, his sheld Star Trek film and
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  Speaker 1: so basically what it would have done, according to him
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  Speaker 1: is it would have brought about a new crew, a
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  Speaker 1: new a whole new ship, new crew, all that, but
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  Speaker 1: the there would be a three movie arc about Data,
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  Speaker 1: the character Data. So it sounds like he wanted Brett
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  Speaker 1: Spinner to come back and reprise Data as well. But
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  Speaker 1: that's not one hundred clear. Could have been maybe this
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  Speaker 1: would have been This would have been yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Three story arc about Data. It was called Generation's Insurrection
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  Speaker 3: and Nemesis.
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  Speaker 1: I know, I know, but uh, they must have some
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  Speaker 1: metrics that show Data is like wildly popular, so gotta
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  Speaker 1: put them in the movies again. But yeah, you wanted
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  Speaker 1: to do a three story arc about Data and a
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  Speaker 1: new crew.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he was arguably the most popular character on
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  Speaker 3: the Next Generation.
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  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, yeah, you know so, But I mean,
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  Speaker 1: what would you do with Data and another crew like
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  Speaker 1: that's would it be the same Data? Would it be
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  Speaker 1: like here's the third brother we found and now you know.
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  Speaker 3: Nine, and then they did O'Brien centric storylines. Yeah, you
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  Speaker 3: just you just have another crew another you know, and
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  Speaker 3: and you do a data centric story around data and
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  Speaker 3: sort of the crew of that of whatever ship is
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  Speaker 3: just sort of you know, tertiary a waiting game.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, data went haywire again. Who could have seen
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  Speaker 1: this coming the movie? Yeah, yeah, I mean that's probably it.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, all right, another news story about something
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  Speaker 3: that didn't happen, and that's not gonna happen, so right right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. We also had a quick bite about Wilson Cruz
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  Speaker 1: from Start Trik Discovery Now saying that he was very
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  Speaker 1: upset that they never got a musical episode. Apparently a
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  Speaker 1: lot of the Star Trek Discovery actors were come from
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  Speaker 1: musical theater, so they had talked about doing a musical
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  Speaker 1: episode and they never got to and so he's like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I really wanted to do one, and whatever couldn't couldn't happen.
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  Speaker 1: So when when Stranger Worlds did it, he was like
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  Speaker 1: very jealous.
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  Speaker 3: I would like to comfort Wilson Cruz by saying that
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  Speaker 3: Trek cast has never done a musical episode.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, health or welcome.
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  Speaker 1: And then our last news story comes to a from
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  Speaker 1: Boston dot com and uh, take a look at this house?
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  Speaker 1: Does that stream Star Trek to you? Because apparently this
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  Speaker 1: home is considered a Star Trek home.
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  Speaker 2: I mean.
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  Speaker 4: It all.
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  Speaker 3: The first thing it makes me think of is like
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  Speaker 3: if the Borg assimilated those crusty, white faced people from
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  Speaker 3: Star Trek, the second one, the second JJ film.
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  Speaker 1: I like on Dan's like really looking at it, like,
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  Speaker 1: what the hell is that?
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  Speaker 6: Like what?
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  Speaker 4: Because I'm on my phone, it's.
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  Speaker 3: Like I know, I know, yeah, yeah, even on my computer,
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, uh, it looks like to me, it looks
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  Speaker 3: like somebody did a really bad plastering job.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it looks like Star Trek at all.
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  Speaker 2: Are there any is that it?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's some interiors and it's it's nicer on
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  Speaker 1: the inside, but there's the overview at the top which
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  Speaker 1: looks like melted ice cream.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, is it does Does it have like a
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  Speaker 6: a bridge themed home theater or something?
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  Speaker 4: What's what's going on? This?
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  Speaker 1: This ugly amount of plaster is one point four million
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  Speaker 1: dollars to begin with, right, and then you have to
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  Speaker 1: live in Boston on top of that.
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  Speaker 6: But then so here's here's here's the thing about the
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  Speaker 6: northeast and the closer.
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  Speaker 3: You should be a real estate agent, yeah, Boston, or
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  Speaker 3: or work for the Boston Chamber of Cavers.
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  Speaker 1: That's right.
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  Speaker 6: Here's the thing with real estate, and especially near a
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  Speaker 6: city like Boston. Uh, one point five million dollars is nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Rightly not? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Man, I could have the gutt branch out here for
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  Speaker 2: one point five million dollars.
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  Speaker 6: It's really sickening. I can't wait to get out of
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  Speaker 6: this area. You know what, I could sell my want
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  Speaker 6: my house eight years ago. I could sell it for
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  Speaker 6: twice what I bought it for. The problem is I
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  Speaker 6: can't go anywhere because everything else is is twice the price.
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  Speaker 1: Also, mine is tripled from what I burnt bought it at.
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  Speaker 3: H I've got a plot of land that we bought
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  Speaker 3: last year that's next door to us.
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  Speaker 2: I'll sell it to you for a good price.
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  Speaker 1: There you go.
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  Speaker 2: You'll have to build on it.
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  Speaker 1: But you don't want the ice cream Collarsdrik house. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: the the inside looks nicer, but that's relative.
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  Speaker 2: There is nothing.
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  Speaker 3: There is no Star Trek fan anywhere that would without context,
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  Speaker 3: look at this house and go, oh, Star Trek.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the the closest thing I can think is
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  Speaker 1: it kind of looks like you know, the when they
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  Speaker 1: land on a like on a less technologically advanced planet
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  Speaker 1: and they have those like weird shaped homes. Like that's
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  Speaker 1: the closest thing I can think of. But even then,
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  Speaker 1: was it.
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  Speaker 4: Used in an episode or something with film?
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  Speaker 1: There just just that they call it the Star Trek
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  Speaker 1: House locally that it's inspired by Star Trek.
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  Speaker 3: I bet, I bet there's some Star Trek geek that
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  Speaker 3: the rich geek that lives there probably has his own
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  Speaker 3: Star Trek podcast, goes to Star Trek conventions and comic
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  Speaker 3: cons and he just self proclaims himself like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: oh wait, that sounds a lot like me.
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  Speaker 1: Oh wait, he give the looks more like Joba the
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  Speaker 1: hus vacation home.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: It's funny how sometimes local, local things will we'll just
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  Speaker 6: get named something and the name will stick. So there's
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  Speaker 6: a building nearby and it's and it's two domes, it's
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  Speaker 6: two semi circles and they're joined together by like like
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  Speaker 6: a small building in between. And one day I called
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  Speaker 6: it the Booby Building because it looks like a set
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  Speaker 6: of prests as you drive. And uh yeah, that's that's
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  Speaker 6: what that builuildings called. Now it's the it's the boobie building.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a marijuana of course it is.
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  Speaker 3: We have a residential home in our near the near
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  Speaker 3: our county that a bunch of domes that looks like boobies.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, boo house, boob house.
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  Speaker 1: There. There's a guy in uh in Spokane Valley. He's
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  Speaker 1: got what they call the castle house because over the
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  Speaker 1: course of thirty years he has literally been converting his
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  Speaker 1: actual home into an actual castle because he doesn't have
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  Speaker 1: an h O A So good luck stopping him. No,
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  Speaker 1: he's got like turrets and it's crazy Google, is that?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, his home is his castle literally. Yeah, and that's
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  Speaker 1: just right.
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  Speaker 2: And you know what I applaud that. Yeah. Yeah, you
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  Speaker 2: own land.
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  Speaker 3: You own your house on a piece of land that
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  Speaker 3: you own, you know, and just don't even get me
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  Speaker 3: start at h O A s.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah what you want?
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  Speaker 7: All right?
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  Speaker 1: So there's there's your ugly as star trek as for
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  Speaker 1: one point four million. Enjoy living in Boston.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the prices of land, Like Dan, you might I
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  Speaker 3: have a question for you you you live in the
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  Speaker 3: New York area. Do you live near New York City?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not asking for an address, but okay, I.
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  Speaker 7: Mean it's commutable, it's commutable.
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  Speaker 2: But no, I always.
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  Speaker 3: Look at I always look at like I've been watching
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  Speaker 3: a lot of Blue Bloods, and they always show they
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  Speaker 3: pan across the city, and they show like I'm in
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  Speaker 3: the first couple of seasons, so they're showing one trade
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  Speaker 3: World War trade center and being built, and they always
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  Speaker 3: pan across.
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  Speaker 2: Even when I watched Friends.
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  Speaker 3: I would look at this Central Park like this, there's
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  Speaker 3: there's there's this metropolis of buildings that are three inches
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  Speaker 3: from each other, and then you've got acres and acres
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  Speaker 3: and acres of open like four wrist and grass and
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  Speaker 3: this giant rectangle.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, how many times have developers begged the
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  Speaker 2: city please let me have a piece of this? Oh?
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  Speaker 2: For sure? You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's a lovely place.
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  Speaker 7: You get mug.
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  Speaker 6: You have people that are born and raised in New
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  Speaker 6: York City and they lived their whole life there and
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  Speaker 6: they and they just never they never leave.
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  Speaker 4: And that's the close Central Park.
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  Speaker 6: It's like the closest thing that they get to nature,
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  Speaker 6: the country nature.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, right right, that's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: I mean that that that that piece of land has
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  Speaker 3: got to be worth half a trillion dollars if they
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  Speaker 3: were to sell it off.
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  Speaker 2: Well, God not New York though. Well I noticed like
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  Speaker 2: in parts of it there is a little part that
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  Speaker 2: jets out that like they've tried to claw way at
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  Speaker 2: it a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's not a perfect rectangle. It's it's I
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  Speaker 3: don't know what that area is, but mm hmm, I'm
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  Speaker 3: curious about it. My wife and I have actually been
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  Speaker 3: talking about maybe making a trip to New York sometimes
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  Speaker 3: the next couple of years.
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  Speaker 2: I've never been. I'd like to. I'd like to visit,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I'd like to go to the well.
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: You know, the the best thing about visiting New York
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: City is that there's still time to go somewhere else
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: and stuff.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, let's all go to Boston.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Let's yeah, I heard.
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: If you do, if you do make a trip to
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: New York City, Uh, let me know.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: And you you were, you were one of the points
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: of interest that we were talking about.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: So I can tell you a horrible hotel will not
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: stay at.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: Okay, oh all right, well let's uh, let's move on
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: to the main topic then.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: All right, fun will now come out.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: All right, it's our main topic. Is we are reviewing
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Start to Exchange in the Worlds Season three, episode nine, Terrarium. Yes, yeah,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: did you want to do the recap?
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Scott No?
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: No, yeah, sure, okay.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: So basically this episode is about Ortegas crash landing on
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: a planet and coming to face to face with another
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: crash landed pilot who happens to be a gorn, and
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: comedy ensues.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: That's right, it's hilarious.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: That's that's that's basically a lot of chatter on this
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: about this episode online.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: You know a lot of people uh making comparisons between
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: this and Starship My uh, I'm sorry.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: What's the name of the movie? Yes, Enemy Mine with
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Dennis Quaid from It.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Also reminded me of that one, that one enterprise episode
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: where Trip is on the planet and it's hot and
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: he's stuck with the other guy and they can't communicate.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Oh right, right right, yeah, it reminded me of that.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: I thought it had strong Darmock vibes too.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that too. I mean, it's nothing new they've done
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: they've done episodes like this before, but it was a
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: classic Star Tric episode.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Right right. Yeah? Uh. I thought it was a good episode.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: I really enjoyed it. There was a couple of.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: Things I didn't you know, Ortegas is I don't think
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: would be able to take a part of the tricorder
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: and make a one way uh communicator, uh universal translator,
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: but I did. I did like the interaction between her
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: and and and the Lady Gorn.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was, it was fun. It was it was fun.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: I also man teaching an alien how to play chess
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: mm hmm. I found that I don't know how long
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: they were there, but it would it would take like
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: I speak English, and it would take if I didn't
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: know how to play chess, it would take Ortegas a
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: month to teach me how to play, right.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: I wondered about that because she she crashed lands and
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: she's like I'm hungry, like immediately, you know, right, and
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: looking at her rations and trying to figure that out.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: My thought was when she went through the wormhole, was
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: there like some sort of time dilation? So maybe for
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: her it felt like she was on that planet for
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know, a week or so and for the Enterprise.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: It was only a few hours.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the first thing that I was thinking about it.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: But going through a wormhole or you know, a black
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: hole or something like that, is time does some weird stuff,
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: and I didn't. I was disappointed they didn't address that
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: in the in the show.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: But yeah, oh, Wilson's that enterprise episode I was talking about.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: It's called Dawn, okay, cool and uh yeah, yeah, I
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: mean they this is uh, you know, a classic episode
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: set up. You're you're on a planet with the enemy
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: and can you make friends?
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Right right?
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I I enjoyed it. It felt like classic Star
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Trek to me. I thought it was really dealt, well done.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: I may even say it might be my favorite episode
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: of the season so far.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, it was. It was good. It was good.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I I thought, I don't know that
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: the ending was a little disappointing. I I thought maybe
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: I think I think I saw somebody online say, you know,
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: it would have been interesting if they had saved the
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: Gorn and brought the Gorn on board, and maybe that
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: Gorn could have helped h Noonians saying deal with some
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: of her issues, Like maybe there could have been some
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: sort of interaction in the next episode or next season,
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: you know, where this Gorn maybe becomes some kind of
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: ambassador or some kind of you know, I don't know
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: where they're where they're going story wise with the Gorn, but.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I I guess my one criticism was,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: like earlier in the season, we had the thing where
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: where Ortegas was acting up because she had that issue
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: with the Gorn, like she she saw one in the
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: in the reflection. She it seemed like she was somehow
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: being influenced by Gorn because of her attack with them earlier, right,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: So I thought somehow that would have played into this,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: like maybe she could mentally I don't know, like word
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: for word communicate, but at least like get impressions from
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: the pilot or something like that, something something to make that, Yeah,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: that tie in a little bit more other than just oh,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: I happen to be here with the Gordon.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Right right.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm also wondering what they're gonna do, Like I
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: don't know much about the Gorn in the original series
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: other than that famous Kirk Gorn episode. Like I don't
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: remember in the original series, was this an ongoing thing?
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: Did they I don't remember in that particular episode, did
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: they say, oh, we've never we haven't talked to the
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: Gorn since five years ago when we had the Great Gorn.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: War anything like that. I don't remember what the backstory
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: is and the Gorn.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I know that we're unshackled from Cannon and
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: all that. But is there any way that what we've
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: seen in Strange New Worlds or Enterprise could lead up
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: to a Kirk Gorn battle on on that planet. Which,
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: by the way, that that alien at the end, that
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: was the same alien from what I read online, that
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: person that showed up was the same alien as the
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: person that put the Gorn and Kirk together in the
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: original series, right right species?
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the Metreon, Yeah.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Metreon, that's right, Yeah, the Metro. It was Metreons that
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: did the They were doing the thing.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: You never seen them in the episode, but it's like
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: a one line thing. Yeah. So so yeah, in Arena,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: they're only mentioned. It's a mention. Yeah, you don't see them. Okay,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: so that's they added it.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: So it's the one elderly Gorn in Arena that fights
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Captain Kirk.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh, Desiree says, I thought she was hallucined might
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: be hallucinating, referring to when I said that she saw
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: the gorn reflection. Oh oh, okay, okay, yeah, she might be,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: I I guess. But she was also acting up a
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: little more defiant, a little more, you know, speaking up
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: when she wasn't supposed.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: To right ear.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we thought through about halfway through the episode, you know,
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: Desiree says maybe that this is like a fever dream
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: and she's like still unconscious in a shuttle. I'm like, yeah,
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: that's what I And then when she said that, I'm like,
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: I was ninety percent sure that that's how they were
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: gonna play it. Yeah, And when they ended the episode
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: like no, this wasn't a few I was surprised. Yeah,
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: you know, because she hit her head at the very
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: beginning of oh yeah, she had blood coming from her head,
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: and I thought for sure that yeah.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I thought it was weird.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: That this this uh chunky rock in space would have
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: a class M sort of you know, breatheable atmosphere.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: There's dan Able says enjoyed the episode until that part,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: and I rolled my eyes. I think he's meaning when
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: the Metrian shirt up.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they really wanted to. I think the writers,
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: you know, all the Gorn writers, Gorn episode writers probably
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: look at Arena and so Gorney, there's so yeah, we've
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: been talking about uh starting yeah Hub yeah, Gorn Hub
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: and you Gorn.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: So I spent the why I didn't know the names
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: of all these places anyway?
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Why do you?
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: Because you know I've heard you.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Your Bob's not watching, right, We're good.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: I hope that. So.
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: I spent most of this episode wondering if it was
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: occurring in her head.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it does. Does said the same thing.
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: Because they you know, they kind of hinted, they kind
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: of hinted a couple of times in previous episodes that
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: you know, she wasn't all right upstairs.
• 29:06
  Speaker 7: Yeah, So are they ever gonna circle back to that
• 29:12
  Speaker 7: or I don't know.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, definitely got some PSD going on, and she's
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: got Yeah.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: She was more defiant in earlier episodes, so yeah, yeah,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 29:30
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: Another thing that happened during this episode, boy, Una is
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: very tolerant of insubordination. Oh Oohura gave her false percentages
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: and she just let that slide.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: And the pike, Yeah, Pike let Pike.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Pike, let a slide like that's that's a court
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's a court martial offense, both both of them.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: That's a court mark. That's that willful and you did it.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: On purpose and for the sake of undermining my whatever. Yeah,
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: they're Una and Pike are all about their They don't
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: mind in subordination at all.
• 30:11
  Speaker 7: Yeah, except except when it's our tegas.
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: Right, you know, she got she got suspended a couple
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: of episodes ago.
• 30:19
  Speaker 7: We're not doing the exact same thing, but you know,
• 30:22
  Speaker 7: in subordination.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So are we gonna see uh Are we going
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: to see uh Uhura? You know, on on on kitchen duty.
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: That's always that's always bothered me about Star Trek. I've
• 30:35
  Speaker 7: talked about it in the past.
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: That's always bothered me that, you know, people will do that,
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: they'll they'll be insubordinate and you know if as long
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: as it works out in the end, it's okay. It's like, no,
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: that's not that's not okay, Right, that's not okay. Wharf
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: Wharf should have been bounced out of Starfleet thirty years ago.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Yep, he uh, I mean he's murdering dudes while on
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: duty and it's like, fine, Oh, he's a cling on
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: he can get away with.
• 31:07
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's well.
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: That that was one I was referring to, the one
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: where he went back to save joon Zia instead of
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: completing the mission.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they just said you Cisco just said you probably
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: won't ever get a command of your own, and then
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: I think everything. The only long term consequence I can
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: think of is Tom Paris. He got demoted from lieutenant
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: to ensign in the U in the episode about the
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: Ocean planet.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: And that lasted for half a season.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you know, apparently time in grade doesn't
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: mean anything, because he then got promoted again to the
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: lieutenant and you know, Ensign Kim is just chilling over
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: there and Ops going what the F dude.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: I gotta say, man, this Gorn costume was pretty great.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Loved it, that's all real.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it's very well done.
• 32:10
  Speaker 6: It's like they're trying to bridge the gap between the
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: c g I Gorn that we've seen on this show
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: and what Kirk is going to be with in a
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: few years and kind of do something in the middle
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: that maybe they could sell it to us that this
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: is the same the same.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be like, Okay, did I'm trying to
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: remember did did the Enterprise and the Enterprise didn't have
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: a choice on who they sent down to that planet
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: in the original series. I wonder if the Gorn had
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: a choice, like if the metro Metro gone don Metro
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: dome guy.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if if they.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: Said choose, choose somebody, and the gornre like, hey, let's
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: let's send Ralph like he's he's already like, he's already
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: like four hundred and twelve, he's old.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: We want to get rid of him. Anyways, he's kind of.
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: Clumb along in the clock of slow.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's, yeah, along in the claw. Let's send him down.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: And so that's why you have the the geriatric Gordon.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: I've tried to give I'm trying to give them any
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: kind of canted reason why he's that way.
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: I liked uh Ohura.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: She she played I don't remember the actress name, but
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: she played a a desperate friend. Yeah, yeah, you know,
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: she was grasping at straw. She was she really, really
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: really wanted to save her friend. You can tell that
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: there's a big friendship there. I liked the little conversation
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: they had at the end where Ortegas is like, you know,
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: they were talking about the fact that Noonan saying shot
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: and killed the Gorn, and she was trying to reconcile
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: that with the fact that, well, you know, Lon's my friend,
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: and so was that Gorne. And I know that Lane
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: was just trying to help me, and so was the Gorn,
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: and you know, so I think I just like that
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: little interaction.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, except that she's not gonna remember her friend murdered
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: her their friend, so right.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So I thought that it was neat that she
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: was able to keep a little piece of that Gorn game. Yeah,
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: that was cute that she did that little because apparently
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: when they played chess and then they played a game
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: that the Gorn knew, and then part of the game
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: was to eat the piece that you won with ed
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: ed Otaegus does this little thing where she pretends to
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: eat it, that hides it like like like the Gordon
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: either a three year old or a puppy. Yeah, I mean,
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: look at those eyes on that Gorn, that that Gorn
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: can like probably put Jeordi to shave with what it
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: can see or what she can see, it.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Will tell it rock candy.
• 35:02
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, why was she on this mission alone?
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Honestly? You know what, they explained it away by saying
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: it was a weight issue.
• 35:17
  Speaker 7: Yeah, so that's just dumb.
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, put her on the mission with you know,
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: some crew and number five that doesn't matter, and that
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: guy dies in the crash.
• 35:35
  Speaker 7: That's so much more believable than you know, in a
• 35:41
  Speaker 7: way team of one that doesn't.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: I will tell you why they didn't do it, because
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: then it becomes her saying, I'm hungry. There's a dead
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: dude right there. It's kind to go cannibal. I promise
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: you that was brought up in the writers.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: To do that.
• 36:00
  Speaker 6: Sh shuttle decompresses and he and he gets blown out,
• 36:06
  Speaker 6: right because she's the pilot and she's she's strapped in
• 36:10
  Speaker 6: to the pilot seat, she doesn't she doesn't get blown out,
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: and then you know she repressurizes the cabin before impact
• 36:16
  Speaker 6: or what I mean?
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Come on, yeah, be a.
• 36:19
  Speaker 7: Writer, Be a writer.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: That's good advice, Daniel.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: Has anybody ever told you that just gotten in your
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: face and grabbed you by the lapel your jacket said?
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Happens all the time.
• 36:36
  Speaker 7: I'm talking to the the powers that be mm hmm.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Hey, well, Daniel gives the writers too much credits. I'm trying, man,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: they don't know sometimes.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: Boy, Yeah, I'd like to know who's in charge of
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: braiding Lawn's hair. Man, she's got She's got these really tight,
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: different every week braids. Yeah, like we've only seen her
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: with her hair down like once a couple episodes ago,
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: I I'm kind of surprised they didn't set up a
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: two part finale because next week's episode is that's it.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: That's the finale, that's it. Yeah, yeah, well it might
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: be part one of the two parts that it could
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: be Part two is next season.
• 37:27
  Speaker 7: That's you know, standard Star Trek procedure.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: We do know what it's about for next week. Yeah,
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: there's one line. It says, when an ancient and evil
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: alien force resurfaces, Pike must make a difficult decision to
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: stop it from spreading.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: So now when I'm curious, because you said resurfaces, does
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: that mean resurfaces for them or resurfaces for us?
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Who knows?
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, mm.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: Hmm, Like is it something they've never seen before that
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: we have, or something that they've seen before? What ancient
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: thing have they seen before?
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: That it's gonna be Abraham Lincoln.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Yep, it could very well be Abraham Lincoln. Yeh or
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: or q Or.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: Mott has breeding skills. Matt the barber.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: It'd be perfect if they had a barber.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: It is such a jeep cut that he deserves this
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: warning warning Nerd alert, nerd alert, Yeah, absolutely, yeah, Bolean,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: I had to look that up.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Bolian Yeah, mhmm.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: But overall, you guys liked the episode.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: I did, Yeah, I did. Yeah.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: I think it was one of my favorites, if not
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: my favorites, of our the season.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: You know, I liked uh Ortagis is growing on me,
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: and which is sad because I think she's gonna have
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: a hero's death in the series. I don't think she's
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: gonna get transferred. I think she's going to straight up
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: you know, she's gonna take She's gonna be to have
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: the death where she takes the shuttle, flies it off
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: in a way that nobody else could and slams into
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: another enemy ship and she's just like, tell everybody I
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: love them, peace out, and then.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: You know you got to make room Forulu.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: I think she's.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: Gonna totally you know, have her like it's gonna be
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: like an Independence Day.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: Yep, exactly the words of my generation.
• 39:46
  Speaker 6: Up your and then Boots Canada and just go crazy.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, uh ah. Do you do you think that
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: they will kill her off like last episode of the
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: last season.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: Or we have I hope, I mean, I hope they
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: don't kill her off before that.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: And I hope they don't kill her off before that.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: And if they do have any you know another thing
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: I was thinking about, if they do have another death
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: towards the end of the series, I hope that they can.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: Sometimes they do and sometimes they don't. I hope they have,
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: especially if it's main character, a full fledged memorial service,
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: like you know, I want, Oh Scott, he's there, he
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: can play bagpipes.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: I hope they have.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: A Wrath of Khan style memorial service. I think that
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: would be fitting if there's a death towards the end
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: of season five.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: H A Wolf wants to know, how are the predictions
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: going so far this season?
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, I don't even know.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm looking at them every week.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: Very well, so we can have we can have those
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: results next week.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well next week A surprising amount of them. We
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: need to decide on during the episode. All right, so yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: it's you know, yeah, yes, absolutely, okay, but uh we
• 41:26
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• 41:36
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• 41:46
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• 41:48
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• 42:08
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• 42:52
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• 42:52
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• 42:54
  Speaker 8: Working on my midbeard here?
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: There you go on midbeard club.
• 43:00
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, some people have mid beers in this group.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: So some some people barely have anything.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're getting the email this week too, but it
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: was from a It was from a lawyer in somewhere
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: in Europe saying that I had an uncle die and
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: leave me eight million dollars eight million.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: Oh there you go, so you can buy a house
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: in Boston.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll have to get on that.
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, buy like a thousand square foot little high I
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: think that's the new the prints of whatever needs five
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: hundred dollars to whatever.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: I think that's a new scam.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: Either that or I just missed out an eight million euros,
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: So you know, I hope.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: That's how they were. The letters. Yeah, this prince needs
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: like five million dollars, so you know whatever, you can
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: send us like three bucks. That help.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I sent him an email back.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: I said, would you just like my credit card information
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: now so we can avoid all the email back and forth.
• 43:58
  Speaker 8: And here's my mom's social Security number checking at her.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Too, so you anyways, as was this week's episode.
• 44:09
  Speaker 8: Yeah, this week's episode was finally one of the better ones,
• 44:14
  Speaker 8: you know, actually enjoyed it?
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: Did you enjoy about it?
• 44:19
  Speaker 8: Well, it was just besides the captain being kind of
• 44:26
  Speaker 8: I don't know, he's kind of complacent. He doesn't really
• 44:30
  Speaker 8: do anything. He just lets his career kind of walk
• 44:33
  Speaker 8: all over him.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: It seems that way, doesn't it.
• 44:36
  Speaker 8: Yes, it's like for a captain, it's like, well I
• 44:40
  Speaker 8: kind of see how he ended up in that chair pike,
• 44:42
  Speaker 8: So wow, it's too complacent, like, ah, sure, you do whatever.
• 44:56
  Speaker 8: Let the kids run around with scissors, it's all right, man.
• 45:02
  Speaker 7: Yeah, we're living constantly.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: You're cutting in and out a lot down.
• 45:17
  Speaker 6: Man.
• 45:18
  Speaker 8: I want to hear what Dan's saying.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: So yeah, sorry man, Yeah.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: Oh Dan, I think you need a nose hair trimmer.
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: Oh no, that's right, hey, that he he had that comment,
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: He asked for that.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: He's like, he's moving.
• 45:42
  Speaker 8: Like a Scott the moment to say that too, because he's.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: Gonna give me back so bad.
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, probably that phone right now, right hold on,
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: I'm getting a call from a New York number.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, better run.
• 46:00
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I'll show you New York real quick. You never
• 46:06
  Speaker 8: been to New York.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: For satellites, don't they?
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they do. Yeah, all sorts and.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: The record I was joking.
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: I think you are very well manicured in your nasal department.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: H uh.
• 46:26
  Speaker 8: One thing I didn't like was the ending of this episode.
• 46:30
  Speaker 8: I mean it was, it was good, and then that
• 46:32
  Speaker 8: ending just like I didn't need the other alien popping
• 46:35
  Speaker 8: up either.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: Oh no, I didn't need that.
• 46:43
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I didn't need that at all. I was like,
• 46:45
  Speaker 8: I don't like this part. All right, there is Yeah,
• 46:50
  Speaker 8: let's see.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: Ope, hey much better.
• 46:53
  Speaker 8: What are you saying?
• 46:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah, talking about timelines, Dan, I'm just I'm not convinced
• 47:01
  Speaker 6: he's gonna end up in the chair anymore.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: Oh really, because the time end of where I'm at too, hmm.
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the unshackled and the timeline is consolant.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: Or maybe it doesn't have to be.
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: Maybe he does end up in a chair, but it
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: doesn't have to be as as tragic as original series Pike.
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: Maybe it can be as.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: Not gradual, as well as as a JJ Pike only
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: not getting shot.
• 47:40
  Speaker 8: Was kind of like in a chair, but he could
• 47:42
  Speaker 8: talk and do other things.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: Right, And in the next movie he was he was
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: I think he had just a cane.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he had a game.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: So maybe maybe the the metrodomes or what. Maybe some
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: omnipotent alien rays can be like, Okay, you've you've made
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: a sacrifice and and you've done this, so you know,
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: here's a trade off. You're gonna be in a chair,
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: but your face isn't gonna be all screwed up and
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: you won't have to uh talk through a you know,
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: a beepy thing and well that's a that's a bridge
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: too far. Whoa, chaz, biz, that's a bridge too far.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: Let's not talk about the hair.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: Let's not you know, will Ours out here quoting uh
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Lincoln Park saying in the end it doesn't really matter.
• 48:29
  Speaker 7: Yeah what uh.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, some of us are feeling numb about it.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, absolutely, it makes you want to break stuff.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: Oh wait, that's linked, that's Linda's gitt Never mind, I'll
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: just keep rolling, rolling, rolling.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: Oh well, I mean.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: Uh, A wolf wants to know if we've been watching
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: Alien Earth.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: Yes, not, No, I've watched I've only seen two Alien
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: hold on I've seen is the aliens? I get aliens
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: of predators, Alien aliens probably, Yeah, so I've seen aliens
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: first and Alien.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: Most of the alien films. Okay, my favorite is is Aliens.
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: The second one, I haven't really I don't remember any
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: of the other ones. I don't even remember the first one.
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: The second one. I watched it over and over and
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: over again when I was a kid.
• 49:30
  Speaker 8: Okay, I watched They're actually excellent.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like them.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: I think I will. I think.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: I started watching the Predator movies too. I watched the
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: first Predator and.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: Second one is all right, Well I want to get
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: to I.
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: Heard praise really good, so I wanted to get to that.
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: But I don't know what I need to watch in
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: order to enjoy watch Prey. I can just watch Yeah,
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: you don't connect.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: And I keep seeing tiktoks of scenes from another Predator
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: movie where the predator and the human, Like it looks
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: like the predator has respect for the human and gives her.
• 50:06
  Speaker 8: New one up and coming one.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like it's uh like it's an old timey like.
• 50:17
  Speaker 7: In the.
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: This this has got to be this has got to
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: be footage from something that's already been out.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Okay, there's one like really universally terrible Predator film.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: It was made I don't know, like fifteen years ago,
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: ten years ago, something like that. Predator shows up and
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: they even like hand the humans a predator type suit
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: to wear.
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay, it's horrible, so bad, it's awful.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: I can't wait.
• 50:48
  Speaker 8: That came out like about five or six years ago.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: There's yeah, so awful.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: And then like as Alien Versus Predator is that when
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: they first merged the franchises.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Or first yes, yes, they did two of those movies.
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: Okay, I was the first one because I want to
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: watch that one.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: Probably they're just dumb fun. If you overthink it, it's
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: it's it'll drive you mad.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: Oh. I don't think I've ever been accused of overthinking anything.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: Over those So yeah.
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: When I when it overthinking life, absolutely overthinking when I'm
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: watching a movie or TV.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: All right, I checked my door. Sometimes I forget to
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: pick it back up.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: But yeah, well, Lily got one more episode left and
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: then we got our big predictions, so that'll be exciting.
• 51:39
  Speaker 8: And then what's prediction next week?
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: Then Pain.
• 51:46
  Speaker 8: Pain the Gorn are showing up next week?
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: Well, is it an ancient evil is reservicing? So we
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: already done, We've already done the Romulan. No, it's gotta
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: be something resurfacing. So I don't. I don't know. Man,
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: there you go.
• 52:15
  Speaker 8: This damned communists, rid of capitalism.
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: And he's going to direct the episode. He's gonna go
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: from executive producer to director.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: Oh god, no, do we know this director episode?
• 52:29
  Speaker 9: Uh?
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: I didn't see on here, let's see.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at IMDb. I don't think. Yeah, there's not
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: a lot of information on IMDb about it.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: It's called New Life and New Civilizations. I know that.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: September eleven, oh a.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: Wolf was predicting there were kind of Captain girlfriend's other side.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: Girlfriend.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. We call her Captain girlfriend.
• 53:04
  Speaker 8: And everybody knows Captain Girlfriend Gorn babies because she's got
• 53:08
  Speaker 8: superpowers from like three different places, right gor.
• 53:12
  Speaker 7: It's right, it's right in front of you. When when
• 53:14
  Speaker 7: does it come out?
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: Number eleventh?
• 53:16
  Speaker 7: Oh no, Alcada, Alcada is coming new?
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: Okay, you're back, they're back?
• 53:25
  Speaker 8: Or is the American sy op? I'll put my tinfoil
• 53:28
  Speaker 8: hat on is all planned to begin with? It's the
• 53:30
  Speaker 8: Federation that did it well.
• 53:32
  Speaker 7: Three five.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: I was an inside job.
• 53:34
  Speaker 7: Yes, I hate this time of year.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: I hate Yeah.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: The Internet it's never good.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: No, no, it's never done a single good thing.
• 53:46
  Speaker 8: Every just stay off the X and Twitter.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: What the hell, it's all It's all bad, It's.
• 53:51
  Speaker 8: All that whole week or actually two weeks.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, it feels like we're kind of winding down
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: on It's All bad. Yeah. So, and we got we
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: got more shows coming. We even got some stuff planned,
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: like a terrible movie we're gonna review at some point.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: I've also I've also heard some chatter about like, uh,
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: we we ended before this season. We ended with a
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: marathon watch of Star Trek movies, and we ended at
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: Star Trek six, and we've got We've got four more
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: that's true. Uh that could be watched.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we did that.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, generations and the rest would be Uh.
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: I'm kind of I'm kind of looking forward to watching
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: the next generation movies and talking about them because i
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: I've I've got them all in Blu Ray. I'm gonna
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: watch them, watch them once, you know, all the way through,
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: and the I'm gonna watch it again with the director's commentary.
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: Some of them have Jonathan Frakes and Marina Sertas.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so clips of that on TikTok.
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm looking forward to that. So sometimes we're
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: now in the end of the year, you review all four.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, we'll do that.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: Well then that's pretty much it, wrapping it up. We'll
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: be back next week with the finale and our predictions.
• 55:12
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