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Between The Pipes: Adrian Denny on the Mammoth's win over the Penguins, Utah in on Dylan Larkin and Hellebuyck (?) + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: This is the Sean O'Connell Show, your home of the
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  Speaker 1: best inside of your utes. Let's get back to OC
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  Speaker 1: from the Murdoch Chevrolet studio of ESPN 792.1 FM.
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  Speaker 2: Hour number three here on the Sean O'Connell Show. And
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  Speaker 2: on Wednesdays, we welcome in Adrian Denny, brought to you
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  Speaker 2: by Aladdin Industries and Valley Plumbing, Heating, and Cooling for
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  Speaker 2: Between the Pipes. Our Utah Mammoth Insider here with us
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  Speaker 2: in studio once again.
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  Speaker 3: Hi, Adrian. What's up, brother?
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  Speaker 1: How's it going?
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  Speaker 3: You know, I'm great. Having a good time.
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  Speaker 2: We've got a massive football game this weekend at our
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  Speaker 2: respective alma mater.
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  Speaker 3: You are also a Ute.
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  Speaker 4: I am, and I was on the field at Rice
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  Speaker 4: Eccles Stadium last night. We had a mixer with our
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  Speaker 4: season ticket members. And so, yeah, we're on the field.
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  Speaker 4: We had autographs being signed afterwards. Of course, Mike Fulton
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  Speaker 4: and I kind of snuck away and attempted some field goals,
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  Speaker 4: which my kick almost hit our guy who was shooting
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  Speaker 4: it on the iPhone. So that's, that's, that was what
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to be doing on mammoth daily tomorrow is
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  Speaker 4: kicking a football at a camera. but Mike was able
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  Speaker 4: to successfully execute an extra point that I held.
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  Speaker 3: I held, I spun. Oh, for real laces out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Laces. Well done.
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  Speaker 4: So you'll, you'll see me take about an extra five
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  Speaker 4: seconds because I'm so focused on getting the laces in
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  Speaker 4: the proper spot, but yeah, Bryce Eccles, it was, it
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  Speaker 4: was fun being on the field with, with a big
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  Speaker 4: game coming up on Saturday and, uh, the.
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  Speaker 2: Winter classic coming to Rice Eccles stadium on new year's Eve,
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  Speaker 2: which is going to be a blast.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So, uh, Yeah, great to have our season ticket members
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  Speaker 4: up there, but a lot of winter classic chatter, a
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  Speaker 4: lot of football chatter. There's some good crossover with Ute
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  Speaker 4: football fans and Mammoth Nation. You know how I am, OC,
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  Speaker 4: talking Utes football. I can get a little passionate.
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  Speaker 2: How do we make arrangements so that when you see
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  Speaker 2: the Utah Mammoth winter classic sweaters, I know you're sworn
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  Speaker 2: to secrecy on these types of things and the City
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  Speaker 2: Connect type ones that they're doing now.
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  Speaker 3: Have you already seen those?
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  Speaker 1: Nope.
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  Speaker 3: Have not. Just saw the teaser. I'm looking in his eyes, people.
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  Speaker 3: I have not. I believe.
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  Speaker 4: I will be honest with you. There are things that
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  Speaker 4: I will hear about in advance.
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  Speaker 3: Before it's public. It's usually.
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  Speaker 4: on the hockey side, like, like a lineup thing for,
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  Speaker 4: for that night or something that that's coming or something
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  Speaker 4: to watch for, uh, from, from a Jersey standpoint, from
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  Speaker 4: a major team standpoint, uh, do not usually, uh, see
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  Speaker 4: it before I'm on the treadmill or I'm on the
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  Speaker 4: elliptical and the, uh, team alert comes in on Twitter. Cause,
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  Speaker 4: cause folks, folks are asking us about that last night
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  Speaker 4: at the mixer. And I'm like, You know, you guys
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  Speaker 4: all hear mammoth daily, right? Like, do you know how
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  Speaker 4: many mornings I wake up after doing a mammoth daily episode?
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, I wonder if I should have said,
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  Speaker 4: should we have really touched that? Like you've heard the podcast,
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  Speaker 4: you know, people are the corporate public relations is probably
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  Speaker 4: not going to be slipping anything to us that they
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  Speaker 4: don't want out.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Fair enough.
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk a little hockey here. Utah mammoth improved to
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  Speaker 2: seven and three. They're now three and one at home, five,
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  Speaker 2: four victory over the Pittsburgh penguins.
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  Speaker 3: The other night we had a blast. I went, I
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  Speaker 3: attended as a fan, brought the whole family.
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  Speaker 2: We were coming down the Canyon from family pictures. Everyone
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  Speaker 2: dressed in their finest ended up at the mammoth game
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  Speaker 2: and the kids were spilling popcorn and screaming for the mammoth.
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  Speaker 2: It was It was a blast, and a high-scoring game
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  Speaker 2: like that gives the kids something to look at. Probably
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  Speaker 2: a little bit higher scoring on the Penguins' side than
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  Speaker 2: the Mammoth we're comfortable with, but I think pretty important here.
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  Speaker 2: We talked all last season about not having great options
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  Speaker 2: behind Karel Vemelka and Sebastian Kosa in this one. He
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  Speaker 2: did enough, including a game-saving save. There would have been
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  Speaker 2: a cooler way to say that. a game saving stop
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  Speaker 2: with like one second left.
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  Speaker 3: With Sidney Crosby, like two feet away from it.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: So key save at a key moment.
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  Speaker 4: And he's now two and one as part of the
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  Speaker 4: team's seven and three stars. So that's, that's the big
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  Speaker 4: thing there that, you know, the challenging part for mammoth
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  Speaker 4: goaltending right now is actually pretty good for the rest
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  Speaker 4: of the team, but they're leading the NHL and shots
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  Speaker 4: allowed like Pittsburgh at 19 shots on Monday. Sebastian Coase's
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  Speaker 4: first NHL start in Columbus on October 3rd, he saw
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  Speaker 4: 18 shots. So mammoth goaltending has not seen a lot
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  Speaker 4: of shots. They're averaging just averaging just over 20 a game,
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  Speaker 4: but there were spurts in that Pittsburgh game of eight
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  Speaker 4: plus minutes in each period where the Penguins did not
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  Speaker 4: have a shot on goal. And so for the goalie, he's,
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  Speaker 4: he's down there just, you know, um, humming and talking
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  Speaker 4: to himself and singing songs.
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  Speaker 3: And then he got Nate Schmidt, um, uh, one of.
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  Speaker 4: The defensemen who's always going to, you know, be talking
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  Speaker 4: to him, trying to keep him in the game and, and,
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  Speaker 4: and that stuff. But when you don't see a lot
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  Speaker 4: of rubber and then all of a sudden you're shorthanded
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  Speaker 4: or you have Sidney Crosby coming straight at you, it's you're,
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  Speaker 4: you're just not quite in the groove. So that's one
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  Speaker 4: thing that's really good. But for the goalies, sometimes it's a,
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  Speaker 4: it's a challenge, especially to make your numbers look good
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  Speaker 4: when you see 19 shots in a game.
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  Speaker 2: And now, once again, the rumor mill is on fire
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  Speaker 2: that another goalie, a former Vesna Trophy winner and Olympic
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  Speaker 2: gold medalist with Team USA, that Connor Hellebuck, whose suspension
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  Speaker 2: ends in two days, is about to move. Multiple sources
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  Speaker 2: reporting that a Winnipeg Jets trade, blockbuster trade, it's being
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  Speaker 2: described as involving Connor Hellebuck, is imminent. And It seems
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  Speaker 2: to be Buffalo, a little bit of New York Rangers talk,
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  Speaker 2: but the Mammoth right there in the mix with that.
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  Speaker 2: And we've talked about this, I think, every time we've
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  Speaker 2: had you come on here. You know, heated up, cooled off,
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  Speaker 2: maybe he's heating up again. And it's either going to
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  Speaker 2: happen or it's not. But when you've got, like you said,
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  Speaker 2: you've got a good problem in goal right now, are
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  Speaker 2: you willing to interrupt that, change it, alter the flow
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  Speaker 2: of the season that started off the right way?
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  Speaker 3: Even for a blockbuster trade.
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  Speaker 4: You know, the thing about Karel, the Melka and Sebastian
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  Speaker 4: Kosa right now through 10 games is they win. So
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  Speaker 4: Sebastian Kosa is two and one as a backup last year,
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  Speaker 4: it took several months to get the second win for
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  Speaker 4: V tech Vana check. So that's, that's the biggest thing
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  Speaker 4: with goalies and Karel, the Melka over the last three
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  Speaker 4: years is fourth in the NHL and wins. He was
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  Speaker 4: second last year. So you're looking at, at the win
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  Speaker 4: loss record and bill Armstrong makes this really, really easy
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  Speaker 4: for me. Oh, see being out in front of things.
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  Speaker 4: So when you and I are talking about, you know,
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  Speaker 4: guys rumored to be involved in trades and the mammoth
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  Speaker 4: are listed in every single article. I don't have to
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  Speaker 4: worry about coming on with you and then going back
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  Speaker 4: in to the Select Health Ice Center an hour later
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  Speaker 4: as Bill Armstrong's walking down the stairs like, Adrian, just
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  Speaker 4: heard you talking OC.
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  Speaker 3: What do you know? What do you got?
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  Speaker 4: I'll see Bill first thing in the morning when I
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  Speaker 4: walk in or Chris Armstrong or But Bill makes it
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  Speaker 4: so easy for me not to be awkward, OC, because
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  Speaker 4: he says my job every day is to improve the
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  Speaker 4: hockey team. And by saying that, you know that when
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  Speaker 4: a name comes up, when a name doesn't come up,
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  Speaker 4: when anything's happening, that Utah's making a call. Utah's involved.
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  Speaker 4: Utah's weighing in. What's the best thing for the organization?
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  Speaker 4: And I think we could all pretty much see, you know,
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  Speaker 4: aligned expectations from the players to the coaches, to management,
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  Speaker 4: to ownership, to mammoth nation, that what the expectations to
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  Speaker 4: win this year, next year, the year after that, and
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  Speaker 4: going through to, know 2034 which is logan cooley's eighth
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  Speaker 4: year of his contract along with nick schmaltz john marino
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  Speaker 4: goes till 2035 right the expectation here is to be
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  Speaker 4: good every single season and i think everybody sees that
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  Speaker 4: right we're not talking about we're trying to play meaningful
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  Speaker 4: we want to be in the playoffs we want to
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  Speaker 4: win we want to be you know carrying that that
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  Speaker 4: stanley cup on a parade Um, I was, I was
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  Speaker 4: talking to Jeff right here from Fox 13 on mammoth
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  Speaker 4: daily last week.
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  Speaker 3: And he says, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I think we've got a parade route that we're going
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  Speaker 4: to have established on that, that path that's going from
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  Speaker 4: the gateway to the Delta center. And I said, we're
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  Speaker 4: not even going to have to close the road. And
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  Speaker 4: he says, well, hopefully we, we have a parade before
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  Speaker 4: that's done. So, you know, um, that's, that's the expectation. And, and,
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  Speaker 4: Bill's going to be on the phone, and we've talked
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  Speaker 4: about David Ludwig, the assistant GM before, who has everything
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  Speaker 4: just completely mapped out from salary boards to comparables to
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  Speaker 4: the prospect pool to a move we want to make
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  Speaker 4: in a year maybe.
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  Speaker 3: So that's what I'd say about that.
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  Speaker 4: But Bill makes it easy, so I don't have to
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  Speaker 4: worry about coming on with you And, you know, saying something,
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  Speaker 4: the GM or the president of hockey operations, he'd be like, Hey, Adrian,
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  Speaker 4: come over, come over here.
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  Speaker 3: For a second.
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  Speaker 2: They are involved in the discussions. The question for me
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  Speaker 2: that I think is maybe most important to answer here.
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  Speaker 2: You just, you just brought up comparables, right? When you
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  Speaker 2: look at Hellebuck, Hellebuck's accomplishments significantly outweigh anything that Corral
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  Speaker 2: Vamelka or Sebastian Cosa have accomplished, but their actual numbers
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  Speaker 2: in like the goals against average last season, Vemelka and
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  Speaker 2: Hellebuck were almost the exact same, right? So if you're
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  Speaker 2: trading for the name or you're trading for the Stanley
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  Speaker 2: Cup experience, you're trading for the gold medal experience, you're
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  Speaker 2: trading for the Vesna trophy or whatever, I guess the
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  Speaker 2: price becomes a little bit different or your interest becomes
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  Speaker 2: a little bit different.
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  Speaker 3: But if you're just trying.
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  Speaker 2: To look at this from an analytical perspective, and I
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  Speaker 2: don't know how much that weighs in and how much
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  Speaker 2: it does not, Like you're getting good play in goal
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  Speaker 2: right now. And of course there is the cost because
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  Speaker 2: they're calling this a blockbuster potential trade for a reason.
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  Speaker 2: What are you willing to give up to obtain somebody
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  Speaker 2: like Connor Hellebuck if you're willing to? And it feels
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  Speaker 2: like that ask is going to include part of your
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  Speaker 2: young prospect pool at the very least, maybe one of
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  Speaker 2: your more established important talents like a Gunther or Cooley
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  Speaker 2: or whomever, And I think that's where my interest in
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  Speaker 2: a trade like that begins to erode rapidly.
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  Speaker 3: And I'll be fair.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's, you know, it's recency bias and it's
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  Speaker 2: this familiarity thing where it's like, look, we're, we're relatively
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  Speaker 2: new to hockey and we've rapidly fallen in love with
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  Speaker 2: this young core for the Utah mammoth because we believe
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  Speaker 2: in this potential. dyed-in-the-wool hockey guys are going to have
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  Speaker 2: a different outlook on it than we do just because
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  Speaker 2: we bought the sweater, we know who these people are,
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  Speaker 2: you don't want to see them go anywhere. But I
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  Speaker 2: look at what recent Stanley Cup teams have done, I
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  Speaker 2: look at what the projected Stanley Cup teams for this
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  Speaker 2: year are doing, and you're looking at it, you're saying,
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  Speaker 2: even if he's the best goaltender in the league, which
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  Speaker 2: his numbers last year did not say that he was,
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  Speaker 2: even if he's the best goaltender in the league, am
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  Speaker 2: I willing to trade away this many goals of offense
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  Speaker 2: per game in order to get that? Am I willing
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  Speaker 2: to erode some of this foundation that we have so
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  Speaker 2: meticulously built? And I think that's where something like this,
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  Speaker 2: whether it's Hellebuck or anyone else becomes a much more
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  Speaker 2: complicated discussion for me.
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  Speaker 4: And you got to hand it to Winnipeg because they
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  Speaker 4: have stood firm on this. The trade request became officially
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  Speaker 4: public in late, August, but you know, it was made
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  Speaker 4: earlier than that. And Winnipeg's always been, you know, a
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  Speaker 4: team that is going to get the deal that they
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  Speaker 4: want slash the best deal.
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  Speaker 3: We kind of talked about it over the summer.
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  Speaker 4: I thought, I thought the price for Brady Kachuk going
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  Speaker 4: to Florida was a little light and I thought the
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  Speaker 4: price for Quinn Hughes going to Minnesota was a little
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  Speaker 4: white too. So you got to hand it to Winnipeg for,
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  Speaker 4: you know, making sure they're, they're getting a deal that,
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  Speaker 4: that they want and they feel, feel good about though. You,
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  Speaker 4: you have heard also, you know, feedback that stick taps
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  Speaker 4: to Ottawa and, and stick taps to Vancouver for just
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  Speaker 4: making it go away and getting the, the cloud out
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  Speaker 4: of there. Um, Kevin shovel day off, by the way, uh,
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  Speaker 4: Winnipeg jets, GM played for the Salt Lake golden Eagles
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  Speaker 4: got hurt and ended up starting his career with the
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  Speaker 4: Utah Grizzlies as an assistant coach for Butch Goring before
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  Speaker 4: he went to the Chicago wolves, went to the Blackhawks
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  Speaker 4: and ultimately became a GM of the, the Winnipeg jets. So,
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  Speaker 4: Being part of the Grizzlies family over there for a
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  Speaker 4: number of years, I did hear it several times when
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  Speaker 4: we had a hockey decision to make. Dave Elmore, the
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  Speaker 4: owner of the Grizzlies, would say.
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  Speaker 3: Let's call Chevy. Call Chevy, see what he thinks.
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  Speaker 4: You look at the numbers from last year, Vemelka 38-20-3,
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  Speaker 4: and that's to talk about the wins and the losses,
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  Speaker 4: but better goals against average and a better save percentage
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  Speaker 4: than Ben Halibut, and you talk about the cost and
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  Speaker 4: what Winnipeg's asking for. You've also heard that Utah's pretty
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  Speaker 4: bullish in trade discussions on what they're willing to part
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  Speaker 4: with and what they'll do to get a deal done
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  Speaker 4: when there's something that they want, like a Vinnie Trochek.
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  Speaker 2: Um, Hellebuck makes about $ 3 million a year more than,
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  Speaker 2: than the Melka does also. So that matters when you're
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  Speaker 2: talking about these discussions, because again, the depth and breadth
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  Speaker 2: of this Utah mammoth roster appears to be one of
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  Speaker 2: their strengths and they haven't had to pay the big
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  Speaker 2: $ 18 million a year, average annual value contract that some
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  Speaker 2: of these other teams have, but they've, they've spread it out.
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  Speaker 2: You know, there's a bunch of guys in that eight, nine, 10,
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  Speaker 2: $ 11 million range now.
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  Speaker 4: And the Mammoth do have cap space, right? But as
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  Speaker 4: you said, you add Schmaltz, you add Cooley, Marino's coming
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  Speaker 4: in next year with a contract that's going to start.
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  Speaker 4: That's one thing that, in particular, they've been really good
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  Speaker 4: at is categorizing items. We're going to pay this for this.
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  Speaker 4: This is what's going to be here. um, you know,
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  Speaker 4: you look at 15, 16, $ 17 million contracts across the,
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  Speaker 4: the NHL, Logan Cooley, 10 ish is, is the highest on,
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  Speaker 4: on Utah's roster right now. So the, the, they do
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  Speaker 4: have slotted for every position, what, what they're willing to pay. And,
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  Speaker 4: and Karel Vomelka is on a, on a nice deal
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  Speaker 4: for a goalie right now, pushing, pushing five ish. And, Kosa,
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  Speaker 4: same thing on a two-year deal. So you have two
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  Speaker 4: goalies that are in the range of, you know, seven-ish
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  Speaker 4: million on your roster total that you like both of them.
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  Speaker 4: And the track record for Vemelka and the upside for
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  Speaker 4: Kosa looks good. Tomorrow night at Seattle, what do you
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  Speaker 4: expect from the Mammoth? Seattle is off to another good start. Uh,
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  Speaker 4: they beat Detroit in a shootout last night. And I
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  Speaker 4: always root for the team that the mammoth are playing
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  Speaker 4: next to just blow the doors off their opposition, because
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  Speaker 4: psychologically that tells me that, you know, when we go
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  Speaker 4: in the next night, maybe they, they won't be quite
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  Speaker 4: as on point that they're coming back from, from road trip.
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  Speaker 4: Utah was able to handle Seattle last year. They've won
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  Speaker 4: four straight games against them, but cracking they're, they're, win-loss
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  Speaker 4: record is similar to Utah's right now. I think OC,
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  Speaker 4: you know, early stages of the schedule, playing on a
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  Speaker 4: Monday night at home versus on a Tuesday, I think
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  Speaker 4: that was really good for the Mammoth to just kind
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  Speaker 4: of be able to recharge and reset for a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: It had been every other day, every other day, every
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  Speaker 3: other day.
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  Speaker 4: You play Saturday against Edmonton at home, bear set after.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, you know, were tired, but you got to
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  Speaker 4: play through it. They didn't practice Sunday, played a good game.
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  Speaker 4: Monday did not practice yesterday, uh, practice today before they
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  Speaker 4: had to, to Seattle this afternoon. So I think the Tuesday, Wednesday, uh,
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  Speaker 4: between games, which Utah has not seen a lot of
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  Speaker 4: going back to that Olympic schedule from last year can,
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  Speaker 4: can be somewhere that extra day arrest can really, really
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  Speaker 4: be helpful at this point.
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  Speaker 3: Seattle tomorrow night.
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  Speaker 2: And then before I see you again, Saturday, Tuesday, A
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  Speaker 2: really good Tampa team at home Tuesday night. A really
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  Speaker 2: good Minnesota Wild team at home tied with you right
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  Speaker 2: now atop the division.
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  Speaker 3: How many points do they need in those two? In
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  Speaker 3: those two? Split them.
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  Speaker 4: Like you win in Seattle tomorrow, you've guaranteed another at
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: least two out of three week, which they got last
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: week beating Toronto, winning in Edmonton, losing in Edmonton.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: But it was disappointing how the Edmonton game went.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: Went. They still took two out of three. You started
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: the week off Cosa in goal against Pittsburgh.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: You win it.
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: And Andre attorney told us we're going to see more.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: We're going to see more of a, not necessarily a rotation,
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: but more of a split with the Melka and, Kosa,
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: whether that's 80, 20 or 70, 30, 67, 33 in
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: terms of workload. But he said, when we're playing Toronto, Edmonton,
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: Edmonton on a week, like we're going with, we're going
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: with our goalie. So I think you can expect Karel
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: Vemelka against Tampa Bay. Who's seven and two. Minnesota's off
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: to a good start. They came from behind against Edmonton
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: last night, ended up losing in overtime because they took
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: it too many men penalty. But I think, I think
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: if you, You win in Seattle, you settle for a
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: two or three week, you start off with Minnesota, you
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: either beat them, don't beat them, but the grand picture
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: of it is three or four before you head on
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: the road for six straight. I think that's manageable.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: The competition, it's heavy.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: Playing Edmonton on back-to-back nights, probably not that high percentage
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: of a situation to sweep them just because you It's
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: easier when you're playing one-offs to do that. I noticed
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: that in the AHL and the ECHL, you're splitting every
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: weekend because if you went on a Friday, the team
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: that you beat is countering back. So sometimes it was
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: best to lose in overtime to start the weekend on
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: the home-and-home and then go back on the Saturday and
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: beat them and get three or four points.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: Before I let you go, Utah-Houston game day, night game.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: I know you'll be there. I won't be there. You
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: won't be there. I won't be there, buddy.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: But I was talking to some Mammoth fans at our
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: mixer last night. That will be there.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: That's a tough choice to have to make, actually. But
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: what do you think? What's going to happen?
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: I think the Colorado game is probably the best thing
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: that could have ever happened. Face some adversity. Have to
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: push through a game late. Their games had not been close.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: Rice Eccles late start conference play. That's not Oregon. I
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: think that bodes pretty well for Utah.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Let's go. That's between the pipes.
• 22:15
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• 22:18
  Speaker 2: and cooling.