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INTERVIEW: Aries Spears On Being Misunderstood In Comedy, Mending Relationships Of Peers, Vlad TV + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club Morning.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody's e j en Vy Jess hilarious, charlamage the god
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  Speaker 2: we are the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 1: You got a special guest in the building.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, Avery Spares.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome brother, welcome back, welcome back.
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  Speaker 4: How you feeling, man, I'm.
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  Speaker 5: Good man, I'm all good man. Last time I saw ya.
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  Speaker 5: You're always over on Hudson Street.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely that we haven't seen you in a long a
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  Speaker 4: long time.
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  Speaker 3: Like TV all the time, all the time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You know, when somebody came in, like, I don't know,
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  Speaker 4: Ay spears, he might be a little upset, I was like,
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  Speaker 4: that's airy. That's how he always is.
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  Speaker 1: He's got some misconception, upset by what.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe they walked in and they said he didn't seems
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  Speaker 2: as lovable as as they were seem But I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: that's aries.
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  Speaker 4: That's how he is.
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  Speaker 1: They don't you know, he's a lovable To the contrary,
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  Speaker 1: I'm very lovable.
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  Speaker 5: I just keep an ice cube scowl on my face
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  Speaker 5: because I don't want niggas to think they can come
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  Speaker 5: up and say anything.
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  Speaker 1: To me like I love you. That's hilarious, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Let me tell you something.
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  Speaker 5: I truly believe I've always been one of the most
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  Speaker 5: misunderstood catching the game because I don't walk around, you know,
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  Speaker 5: pulling a Magic Johnson smiling from temple to temple. So
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  Speaker 5: because I got a you know, a straight, a kind
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  Speaker 5: of certain exterior, there's that, and then people see me
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  Speaker 5: in interviews and based off things I say, Apparently truth
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  Speaker 5: is the new hate, you know, Opinionated is the new bitter,
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  Speaker 5: you know what I mean. I'm just honest about what
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  Speaker 5: I you know, how I feel about things I speak at,
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  Speaker 5: how I see it, how I feel it, and people
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  Speaker 5: misconstrued that shit for hate, which is ridiculous because I just.
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  Speaker 1: Come from an era where you know, you speak your mind.
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  Speaker 3: You think you've ever been understood. Was there a point
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  Speaker 3: where you were and then something happened and people just
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  Speaker 3: started misunderstanding you or you think it was like that
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  Speaker 3: from the beginning.
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  Speaker 5: I just think it was like that from the beginning,
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  Speaker 5: you know what I mean, And especially now because of
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  Speaker 5: this social media age we live in where you got
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  Speaker 5: to push it fire everything. Like I said, when you honest,
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  Speaker 5: that just gets misconstrued. And just because I don't necessarily
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  Speaker 5: go with the grain of the opinion that you like
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  Speaker 5: that's viewed as hate. You know, It's like why I
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  Speaker 5: got to always flow with the traffic, you know what
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  Speaker 5: I mean. If I don't feel it, I don't feel it.
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  Speaker 3: So that makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: I think that in the fact that you so try
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  Speaker 2: to state area in New York and New Jersey from
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  Speaker 2: from the from the beginning, I think that's that's part
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  Speaker 2: of it too.
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  Speaker 1: Bias as fun. But I admit it. I admit it.
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  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. People go, man, you you're
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  Speaker 5: a New York nigga. You on like West Coast, like
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  Speaker 5: no rapp of the thing. If they from New York.
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  Speaker 5: I've given credit where I find credit should be due.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 5: I love a lot of artists today't from New York.
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  Speaker 5: It ain't many, but you know, I just I like
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  Speaker 5: a swag man.
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  Speaker 1: You know East.
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  Speaker 4: It wasn't in beefing, no more like be cool with him.
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  Speaker 6: Absolutely absolutely.
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  Speaker 5: I'm just saying, you know, I'm stumping in my in
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  Speaker 5: my in my belief system. Yeah, man's certain certain rhythm
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  Speaker 5: and cadence and delivery. You know, it is what it
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  Speaker 5: is as.
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  Speaker 2: A comedian, why do you think And I don't want
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  Speaker 2: you to take this the wrong way because I've watched you know,
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  Speaker 2: I come to your shows all the time and a wife.
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  Speaker 2: Why don't you think you are not a bigger comedian
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  Speaker 2: as I think that you should.
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  Speaker 5: Be because my my mouth is my biggest strength, but
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  Speaker 5: it's also on the biggest detriment. No, I don't have
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  Speaker 5: to do it, No, diddy, I know who I am.
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  Speaker 5: I don't play the man.
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  Speaker 1: I don't get in. That's it. You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: All that I know who the sh That whole cause
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  Speaker 1: thing to me is ridiculous.
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  Speaker 3: Let me tell you something like you might be thinking
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  Speaker 3: about it.
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  Speaker 5: No, listen And when I when I did Glad recently
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  Speaker 5: we were talking about Denzel and I and I said, hey, listen,
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  Speaker 5: part of the allure to a Denzel, especially in his
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  Speaker 5: prime or Brad Pitt is besides the talent, they were attractive, attractive,
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  Speaker 5: there's a sex appeal, there's a sexinist m and the
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  Speaker 5: comments was, Yo, what's one thing to kind of say
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  Speaker 5: a man is handsome, but.
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  Speaker 1: To use the word sexy.
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  Speaker 6: Get the fuck out of here, man, Imperial.
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  Speaker 3: You ain't a sexy you said sex appeal?
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  Speaker 5: No, I might have said, yo, I get it. I
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  Speaker 5: know why women like him. He's a sexy guy. He
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  Speaker 5: alludes sex appeal. That's the same thing.
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  Speaker 3: The same thing.
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  Speaker 1: It's the same thing.
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  Speaker 3: Man, you want to say something so bad, I'm thinking
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  Speaker 3: about it, like what. I don't know if I would
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  Speaker 3: say's sexy sex appeals? The same thing, like the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you recognize what your My eyes ain't lying to me.
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  Speaker 1: I know what. I know what he looks like. I
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  Speaker 1: know what attractive.
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  Speaker 3: Now. The other day, then jumped out of car and
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  Speaker 3: he was he's seventy.
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  Speaker 1: Now seventy.
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  Speaker 3: Girls was losing their mind. I'm looking at him like, yoah,
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  Speaker 3: I hope I look that good at seventy.
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  Speaker 1: Telling Hunt looks seventy and she's not. Damn.
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  Speaker 5: You know, white folks age like fruit nigga wants to
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  Speaker 5: go bad niggas over.
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  Speaker 3: They congratulated twenty five years of comedy, man, after long
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  Speaker 3: thirty five thirty five five.
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  Speaker 5: Year started when I was fourteen. Damn yeah, damn yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: How things changed?
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  Speaker 3: Man?
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  Speaker 5: Uh, I feel like it changes every ten years for comedy.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I think that it's it's in terms of
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  Speaker 5: its evolution. Uh, I don't know if it's as potent
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  Speaker 5: as it used to be. Because now everybody with these
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  Speaker 5: cell phones and the platform can get in the studio
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  Speaker 5: fifty four. Everybody shouldn't be allowed in the studio fifty four.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's it's causing, it's diluting the product a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 5: I understand if you know the fifteen minutes of fame.
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  Speaker 5: But substance makes longevity, you know, Substance makes a career,
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  Speaker 5: you know. And I see so many of these flashing
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  Speaker 5: the pants come along and some of it, I listen,
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  Speaker 5: some of it is funny as hell, you know, I'm I.
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  Speaker 1: Get caught up in the scroll matrix, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying.
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  Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, I know the
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  Speaker 5: difference between the undercard and the main event, you know
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  Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like, come on, man, yeah, do.
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  Speaker 3: You still have the same love when you first started?
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely? Absolutely?
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  Speaker 5: I mean listen, I I get frustrated at times and
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  Speaker 5: the moments where I want to quit just because the
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  Speaker 5: politics of it and the bullshit of it can start
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  Speaker 5: to wear on you. But I'm in perspective, what the
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  Speaker 5: fuck are are gonna do? This is what this is
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  Speaker 5: my passion, This is what I do. You know, so
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  Speaker 5: got to ride it to the wheels fall off. What
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  Speaker 5: are the politics for somebody like a you know it's funny.
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  Speaker 5: I recently did Tony podcast and I told Tony the
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  Speaker 5: story where one night Chris and I. I never really
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  Speaker 5: had a lot of interaction with Chris. We went out
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  Speaker 5: to dinner one time and at the end of the
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  Speaker 5: dinner he was just like, hey, man, I can give
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  Speaker 5: three pieces of advice. Keep writing, stay funny, and try
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  Speaker 5: not to piss these white folks off. I listened to
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  Speaker 5: two of the pieces of advice, and, like I said,
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  Speaker 5: my mouth is my biggest power, my biggest detriment. I
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  Speaker 5: say a lot of shit that I think sometimes turns
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  Speaker 5: people off. And again, if they don't know me in depth,
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  Speaker 5: they take it for face value and they think, oh,
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  Speaker 5: he's this way. But you know, again, if you took
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  Speaker 5: time to really hang out with me and do some
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  Speaker 5: self investigation, yeah, there's certain parts that I'm gonna commit to.
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  Speaker 5: But I'm more than that than what you just see
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  Speaker 5: in an interview. So, you know, the politics for me
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  Speaker 5: has been trying to figure out how to navigate through
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  Speaker 5: this mind fuck of what you say and what you
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  Speaker 5: don't say.
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  Speaker 2: You know, so you don't hold your tongue. So do
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  Speaker 2: you ever get to a point where it's like you
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  Speaker 2: scared of saying things now? Because usually some some of
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  Speaker 2: the stuff that when we go to your shoes you
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  Speaker 2: would say off the wall is it was funny, but
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  Speaker 2: now that that awful?
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  Speaker 1: Well stand up I'm gonna always be that. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: changing that.
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  Speaker 5: But in terms of interviews, not that I'm I won't.
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  Speaker 5: I don't like the word scared, but I'm gonna be
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  Speaker 5: more strategic and how I say what I want to say,
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  Speaker 5: you know, because there's a way to say everything, and
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  Speaker 5: it's comics. You know, that's the brilliance of what we
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  Speaker 5: do is to put that make shit smell like roses
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  Speaker 5: if we choose to do that.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, I'm probably trying to think a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more.
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  Speaker 2: Is that because you don't maybe want to make sure
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  Speaker 2: that you're not canceled and you're not on what I can't.
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  Speaker 3: Really cancel you when you got the stage. I don't
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  Speaker 3: think standom comedians can never be canceled.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, in terms of stand up, no, But then you
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  Speaker 5: know film and television where sometimes the bigger, easier money
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  Speaker 5: is to be made that can be taken away from you.
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  Speaker 5: But you know, this is why I love Dave Chappelle
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  Speaker 5: so much. I don't want to jinx it, and I
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  Speaker 5: don't think I am. But I think he's uncancellable, you know,
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  Speaker 5: because he's such a force to be reckoned with.
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  Speaker 3: Something you said does not make a lot of things though,
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  Speaker 3: because the older you get as a comedian, do you
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  Speaker 3: still want to be toring every weekend? Do you want
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  Speaker 3: that to be the way you make money? Would you
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  Speaker 3: rather be able to do something easier or like a
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  Speaker 3: TV show?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, you enjoy it, if you enjoy it,
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  Speaker 5: but you know there's levels to this. So if you
• 8:14
  Speaker 5: at the level where you know, instead of grinding out,
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  Speaker 5: you know, three nights, six seven shows, you do a
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  Speaker 5: theater for one night and instead of commercial you fly
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  Speaker 5: in private, I don't think that ever gets old, you know.
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  Speaker 5: So it's it's trying to figure out a way to
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  Speaker 5: lessen the grind, you know, like I just started doing
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  Speaker 5: data is now for the longest I've always done clubs.
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  Speaker 5: But you know, between the date of the Garden, I
• 8:37
  Speaker 5: just sold out Toronto. I just sold out Boston at
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  Speaker 5: the wilbur So. I'm you know, I'm slowly trying to
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  Speaker 5: get to that point, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, doing the Hulu theater on the May eighteenth. A
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  Speaker 3: lot of people know you from Mad TV, and I
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  Speaker 3: always wondered because comedians, whenever they get it, enounce to
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  Speaker 3: be like from comic view from death comedy jam. I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: does that still matter when people still remember those things?
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  Speaker 1: Not not? If not?
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  Speaker 5: If not, if you, if your position is solidified, like
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  Speaker 5: I'll go places in the in the in the person
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  Speaker 5: will asks me, he whis your credits?
• 9:08
  Speaker 1: Just say Harry Spizz.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody here knows who the fuck I am? What the
• 9:13
  Speaker 1: so they need to know? Hey, I've done they know already.
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  Speaker 3: I might have been watching you on Black TV for
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  Speaker 3: the last ten I might be twenty five.
• 9:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know, right right, right, right right?
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  Speaker 3: Why do you think shows like mad TV, sketch shows
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  Speaker 3: like that didn't have the longevity of like SNL.
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  Speaker 5: Well, you know, other than SNL, Mad TV was the
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  Speaker 5: only sketch show to have that kind of longevity. But
• 9:35
  Speaker 5: you know, listen, Saturday Night Live is the bully on
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  Speaker 5: the block, always has been. Maybe if the powers that
• 9:42
  Speaker 5: be had kind of supported us more like like even
• 9:44
  Speaker 5: Fox didn't really support us like we we had some
• 9:48
  Speaker 5: of the biggest names in music, Wu Tang, Gwen Stefani, Missy,
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  Speaker 5: and our lead into the show was the news. So
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  Speaker 5: when they would finish their segment, they would just go,
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  Speaker 5: all right, now stay tuned for mad TV, wouldn't it
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  Speaker 5: Who's on the show During summer Fox's biggest hits, they
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  Speaker 5: would never promote us.
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  Speaker 1: No teas, no no tease, no nothing. So we we
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  Speaker 1: just we never really got the support that we deserved.
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  Speaker 5: Why, I don't know, I don't know. It just it was.
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  Speaker 5: It was weird, man. You know, we were like the
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  Speaker 5: bastard step child, uh to Fox on our own network.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's crazy that when you realize this is Hollywood,
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  Speaker 3: think game for me because I'm being here cursing everybody
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  Speaker 3: out curse.
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  Speaker 5: No I you know, no, I mean listen, it's it's
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  Speaker 5: part of what goes through the journey. So you know,
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  Speaker 5: always said, I don't really know how this is gonna
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  Speaker 5: end for me. But uh, as much as I want
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  Speaker 5: to sometimes get discouraged, I'm not gonna quit. You know,
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  Speaker 5: I'll die before I quit, or it may kill me.
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  Speaker 5: But either way, man, I'm in it, you know, because
• 10:47
  Speaker 5: here it's funny, I just put as much as I complain,
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  Speaker 5: it's not until you step back sometimes and you put
• 10:53
  Speaker 5: shit in perspective where you go, I have reason to complain,
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  Speaker 5: But then I look back and go my life versus
• 11:01
  Speaker 5: the regular joes.
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  Speaker 1: This is still fantastic.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, the kind of money I'm making one weekend, and
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  Speaker 5: you know, I don't have a boss. I can sleep
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  Speaker 5: in all day if I want, don't have to answer
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  Speaker 5: to nobody.
• 11:13
  Speaker 1: What's better than that?
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  Speaker 7: And I said that to you, And then now we're here.
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  Speaker 6: I.
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  Speaker 5: Know you.
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  Speaker 3: Like, what did you want? Like before before you took
• 11:27
  Speaker 3: a step back to look and appreciate what you have?
• 11:30
  Speaker 3: What did you want? You know?
• 11:32
  Speaker 5: I think that and I and this is one of
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  Speaker 5: those moments WHI I'll say I I I hope people
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  Speaker 5: don't think that I'm being arrogant when I say this,
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  Speaker 5: but I think based on my skill level, I should
• 11:43
  Speaker 5: be getting as just as much or I'll say just
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  Speaker 5: as much as Kevin Hard or you know, Mike Apps.
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  Speaker 5: But again I will take responsibility for why I'm not
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  Speaker 5: because again I I don't I step different.
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  Speaker 4: You know, Uh, was there a particular step that you
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  Speaker 4: know that.
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  Speaker 1: Damn that you stepped on.
• 12:03
  Speaker 3: A case.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I probably shouldn't said what I said
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  Speaker 5: about Jordan Peel, and you know, and and and uh
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  Speaker 5: even at one point, I remember Kevin was on here
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  Speaker 5: talking about the beef with me and him and EPs
• 12:21
  Speaker 5: and uh yeah. You know, listen, man, when you young
• 12:25
  Speaker 5: and you brash, and you're in New Yorker and you're
• 12:27
  Speaker 5: an alpha dog, you you your ego. We want the
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  Speaker 5: beach chess, you know, and that's always who I've been.
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  Speaker 5: So now that I'm forty nine and I'm looking back,
• 12:37
  Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, maybe I shouldn't.
• 12:38
  Speaker 4: Have you did the Cat Williams before Cat Williams?
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  Speaker 5: Probably yes, yes, so you know, but like I said,
• 12:44
  Speaker 5: as long as I got air in my lungs and a.
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  Speaker 1: Shot, I got a shot.
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  Speaker 2: Have you ever spoke to those individuals that you know
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  Speaker 2: you might have went at what.
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  Speaker 3: You said about Jordan Peel?
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  Speaker 5: Well, you know, there was a segment where Vlad had
• 12:57
  Speaker 5: showed an interview where Russell's Simmons had described them and
• 13:02
  Speaker 5: basically said, Hollywood didn't pick them niggas such and such
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  Speaker 5: and such and this is how they and I was
• 13:08
  Speaker 5: saying based on my experience with them, it's like especially
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  Speaker 5: it would fuck me up. Was when they were with mad,
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  Speaker 5: especially Jordan's Kekan, you could always see what it was
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  Speaker 5: talent wise, but Jordan was so quiet and he didn't
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  Speaker 5: really bring it like that, so I didn't know that
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  Speaker 5: really his superpower was writing and directing.
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  Speaker 1: And I just said that, you know, listen, I said, yes.
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  Speaker 5: They are black men. Yeah, black by pigmentation. But you know,
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  Speaker 5: just because we got this skin tone, don't always make
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  Speaker 5: you what this skin tone is. And they were very
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  Speaker 5: I don't even know white wash, but they just you know,
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  Speaker 5: the difference between just because you're a black man, your brother,
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  Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't really have a lot of brother ship to them.
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  Speaker 5: And then I'm like they both married the white women
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  Speaker 5: and they carried themselves certain way. And but listen, was it.
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  Speaker 5: This is an observation that happens to exist. I know
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  Speaker 5: a lot of people in the comments are go, what
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  Speaker 5: defines black. Let's not play that game. We know what
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  Speaker 5: defines It's a rhythm, it's a culture, it's feel, it's
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  Speaker 5: a walk, it's a sound.
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  Speaker 2: But it's a difference between somebody that grew up in
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  Speaker 2: the hood and somebody grew up in the suburbs.
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  Speaker 1: They're still black, but they got a different I say.
• 14:17
  Speaker 5: All the time, I'm a Huxtable nigger. I ain't a
• 14:20
  Speaker 5: good times nigga, you know. I know there's a difference.
• 14:23
  Speaker 5: But even the Huxtable niggas, you could tell all legitd
• 14:26
  Speaker 5: niggas are doing.
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: The jazz hands got.
• 14:33
  Speaker 5: Evans was just as authentic as the Huxtables. But we
• 14:37
  Speaker 5: know these niggas out there, and I'm gonna say one now,
• 14:40
  Speaker 5: and and you had them on your show. I can't
• 14:42
  Speaker 5: stand Larry Elders. I can't stand that coon ass nigga.
• 14:46
  Speaker 5: I can't stand Kansas Owens, you know. And I love
• 14:49
  Speaker 5: when Dave Chappelle referred to her as a brilliant idiot.
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: Because that's just what it is. Yeah, I know too.
• 14:56
  Speaker 5: She's articulate, she's intelligent, but use the wrong way, you
• 15:00
  Speaker 5: know what I mean, Just just just like you, you're
• 15:02
  Speaker 5: intelligently dangerous.
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: So you know.
• 15:05
  Speaker 5: And and I don't care what Larry Elder says. I've
• 15:07
  Speaker 5: seen enough shit on him, read enough shit on him
• 15:10
  Speaker 5: to where I go. Nigga, Please, that's one of the
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: most tap dancing it's ass kissing niggas in the game.
• 15:16
  Speaker 5: Stop it, you know, get the fuck out of here.
• 15:19
  Speaker 5: So now you see I'm trying. You pulled me.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: Back here, trying to watch myself. Goddamn it, the natural
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: shit has happened.
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: I've never seen that with Kean Peel though. Well maybe,
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: but probably they don't discuss politics. I don't know.
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: Well, I don't think they have to discuss politics. But again,
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: and I know to the people that will sit here
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: and go, I'm tired of black people trying to define blackness.
• 15:43
  Speaker 5: Let's not play this game. You know, when you hang
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: around somebody and you talk to him and there's a
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: vibe and an energy, you know what that is. I'm
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: just simply saying they never gave off that energy. And
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: that was my observation. Whether one is to agree with
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: it or not, that's neither here nor there. It's funny
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: about that people. There was a point where people felt
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: like that about Dave.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: Early early, early on.
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: And you know what, when I heard that, that was
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: only because Dave had, like a lot of black comedians,
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: Dave's route was more rooted in like doing stuff that
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: white people saw that black people didn't really see. But
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: once Dave did the Chappelle Show, niggas came late to
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: the Dave party.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: Dave was always that.
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: Nigga but black for instance, like Martin shoe Martin, that's
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: that's biblical in the Yeah, that shit was biblical, right.
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: They didn't have that accessibility to black people the way
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: Martin did. But Dave was always a thousand percent nigga.
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: And then once Chappelle show came out, niggas went, oh, well,
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: waited nigga right here. Now they late to the party.
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: But real comics and real niggas know Dave've always been that.
• 16:49
  Speaker 7: So yeah, what so Comic View then and now I
• 16:55
  Speaker 7: never did come with you know what I'm saying. You
• 16:57
  Speaker 7: watched it, like, how do you feel about it being rebooted?
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: And how the same way I felt about Death Jam
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: being rebooked. Yeah, like you know that, and that.
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: Was something the explosion. And obviously Death Jam came before
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: Comic View. And I tell people this all the time.
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: What made Death Jam so explosive and it was it
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: was inevitable, was because prior to Death Jam, Hollywood only
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: allowed one nigga for a decade, you know, Gregory in
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: the sixties, prior in the seventies, Eddie in the eighties,
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: and black talent had always been out there, we just
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: weren't allowed to shine like that. So once America got
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: a chance to see a thousand niggas at once, it
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: was an explosion. Then followed behind that Comicview, but the
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: genies out the bottle now, so I don't.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: Know how you captured that.
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: What was special then now on TV on TV, and
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: now you got this thing which is a thousand other options,
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: you know, and and you know when you did death
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: Jam or Comicview, you got on there because you earned
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: your stripes. It was talented. Now everybody with this platform
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: is a comedian. And I'm just like, damn like this
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: one nigga on on on Instagra, on social media, the
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: nigga that pulls the cereal on his head and the
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: milk in the walmart.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Have you seen this? He needs like a pep coach.
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: Like he goes in the Walmart and opens a whole
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: box of cereal and dumps the entire thing of cereal
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: and milk all over his body a mask. Well, he's
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: trying to get your attention. But while he does it,
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: he's telling you believe in yourself. What anybody tells you,
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: believe in yourself, you.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Can do it.
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: And meanwhile, in the background, you got all these people
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: in the store like, what is this nigga doing? And
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: in the comments, people are going, yo, man, look past
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: the milk and the message.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: And he had a message. And I'm going, who the fuck, nigga.
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: If somebody's gotta clean that got to clean that, that's
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: not funny. And I said, nigga, if you really want
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: to be impactful with that same energy and that same practice,
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: do that at a police station. Yeah, go into cops,
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: NI believe in his house, put the cereal in the milk.
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: Do that ship at the at the police station. And
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: the people are saying, this is good. Not even come
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: to your house and do that shit in your living
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: room to clean up cereal and milk.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: I want to ask you something about the nineties, man,
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: because growing up in the nineties, it felt like people
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: were not as sensitive as they are now. And I'm
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: not even talking about like it was a great eraror like,
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: and it felt like artistically people could do things like
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: we talk about men on film and I've seen people
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: give you, you know, flack for sketches that you've done
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, but that's how things were back then.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: You're judging things on this era. Back then that was normal, right,
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: So it's like, what do you think happened? Even the
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: black men wearing dresses and all of that.
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, again social media, because everybody's got a voice. Everybody
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: believes it because they have a voice station be heard,
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: they're special. And the fact is everybody ain't special. Some
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: people are fucking dumb. Most people are dumb. Most people
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: don't have talent. Most people, you know, they be quiet,
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: you know, And everybody's got a chance now and because
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: of that, we have to protect and respect everybody's feelings
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: and thoughts. So it's taken away from the purity of
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: being able to just keep what's special special. You know,
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: it's oversaturated. You know, it's horrible.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: Where did that come from? Though? Like, where did that pivot?
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: Where did that shift happen to? Where like the things
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: that were being done in the nineties that were just funny.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: I guess when did that become like a thing where
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: that black man sold out if he were addressed to
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: get on you know, I don't know where This boogeyman
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: theory has always existed within the black community about men
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: in dresses when men in drag has always been a
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: staple in comedy from day one, and my whole thing
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: was listen man. Again, Let's let's have it in perspective.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: First of all, that is a comedic thing.
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: And when you look at all the prominent black men
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: in Hollywood, both comedians and dramatic actors, we have far
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: more black men not in dresses than we do. And
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: when you look at I could go down list of Denzel,
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: Sam Jackson, Van Raims, fucking Wesley Snipes, and it's like
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: we've played everything from lawyers, the judges, to cops, the superheroes,
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: loving fathers, loving husbands, everything under the sun. How many
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: of those have been in dresses. None of the dramatic actors.
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: I mean, I know Wesley did Touwongfu, but other than that, yeah, Denzel,
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: this person that they ain't never been in the dress.
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: But even the comedians who have, let's not play this game.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: It's like, if you're gonna tell me on one end,
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: it's the mean black man. And that's some bullshit. So
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: we now taken the glory away from Jamie Fox Oscar
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: Winners singer, one of the best actors in the game,
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: because y'all loved him when he was Wanda you Love
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: Martin when it was Biblical Mama Paine, the Big Mama series.
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: So do we take the legend of Flip Wilson and
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: throw that away when he was on a show at
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: a time when black people weren't on TV and he
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: gave us a platform where we couldn't be seen. Do
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: we take the iconic status away from Eddie Murphy? You
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: know the clumps Mama Clump resbuseitsche bryor the greatest comedian
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: of all time as the Maid and the toy. So
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: come on, man, let's not do that. And if any
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: of these niggas came to your city to perform, you
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: ain't buying tickets going you going, so stop it, man.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: And everybody you named this is like top tier legendary talent. Yes,
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: like that person would have made it regardless, Yes, yes,
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: and again in perspective, you've seen them in a dress
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: maybe here once or there twice.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: In a movie.
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: Look at their body of work. Most of it is
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: not in a dress. So as long as the scales
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: tip a certain way, yo, we can have a little
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: bit of that for comedic purposes. You know, Tyler Perry.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Motherfucker's a Juggernauts, got.
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: A whole studio, helps to employ a lot of black folks,
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: And now we're gonna deny ourselves a piece of a
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: potential pie because he wore a dress.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: It made him who he is.
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: Now he can use that money to funnel back into
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: our communities and build us up.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: So what are we fighting?
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: You know, it's fucking ridiculous to me.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: Our stand up specials? How do you make stand up
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: special special?
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Nowadays?
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: I just think it starts with the talent. If the
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: talent is special, the rest takes care of itself. So,
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: like I like that great quote by jay Z I
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: forget the uh the documentary when he performed at the Garden,
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: the back to the backstage, Yeah, and he said, uh,
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: just getting the boofly they throw a crack at guard
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: and so you know, get on stage, do what you do,
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: and that's gonna take care of everything else. He gave
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: you the talent, so you know, use it.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:39
  Speaker 7: I also say, what makes some special is not giving
• 23:42
  Speaker 7: him out that just anybody.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, You don't give It's.
• 23:47
  Speaker 7: Like because I like I like, I do like raw comedy,
• 23:52
  Speaker 7: I do like styles from like back in the day, Like,
• 23:55
  Speaker 7: you know, I do like that, but when it seems
• 23:58
  Speaker 7: like it's too commercial, like for instance, that last piece
• 24:02
  Speaker 7: of that third piece of advice that you said Chris
• 24:05
  Speaker 7: gave me trying not to pisch white people. If you
• 24:07
  Speaker 7: can actually see that in a lot of black specials
• 24:11
  Speaker 7: when they trying and tiptoe around stuff.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: I don't, I don't.
• 24:15
  Speaker 7: I don't like that because then it doesn't allow you
• 24:18
  Speaker 7: to be creative. And then what doesn't piss And it's
• 24:22
  Speaker 7: not even just white people, it's all these different you know, communities.
• 24:26
  Speaker 7: Now everything is so since everybody's so sensitive, it's like,
• 24:30
  Speaker 7: because I really, at one point, like I really really
• 24:33
  Speaker 7: want it like a special and I'm not saying I
• 24:35
  Speaker 7: don't now, but it's like, Yo.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: You wanted to be special.
• 24:39
  Speaker 7: I wanted to be special, and I don't want to
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: water myself down just to get that.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Well, I think number one, I don't think you have to.
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: You know, I think part of what makes it special
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: too is you ain't got to pump out five specials
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: in a month.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: You know, there's so many of these dudes.
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: On Netflix who got like DDN, you just have one,
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: they got another one, And I'm like Jada cooking the
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: bird up. Slow cook it, slow man, you know. Uh,
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: And again this is the genius of Dave. Though of
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: all the specials he put out, the only one I
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: really didn't like a lot was the one in the
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: Belly Room. But all these other ones, I can't remember
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: the name, but he did it at the comedy Store,
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: but it was just him in the belly room.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: But all the other ones, uh, were potent.
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: But Dave's a potent motherfucker. But there's so many of
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: these dudes who might not be as potent. But because
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: the opportunity is there, or the money is there, they want.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: To put out these specials, you know.
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: And I'm just like I would rather I would say,
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: you know, put out fewer and make sure that the
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: ones you put out of fire.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Oh but I think they follow with Dave because Dave
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: puts out a couple of specials.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: But Dave, like you said, it's funny.
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: But Dave's Dave, and I ain't a whole lot of motherfuckers?
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: Can can you know?
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Rock like that?
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: You know, if he was still alive, I said, the
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: only comic who could rival Dave is Patrise. So if
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: Patrice hadn't passed or I.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: Mean I ran into him. I didn't see him on stage,
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: like I knew him from like he used to be
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: on that Vage one show all the time, and like
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: I would hear him.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: You saw specials though, right in the room, not in
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: not in full, oh god, elephant in the room, his
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: album Mister p even his half hour Comedy Central special.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: That motherfucker was a monster. I mean, he liked Dave.
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: You're gonna say, what the fuck he's gonna say, You're
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: not diluting his comedy cocaine.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: It's pure that what I'm saying. One I remember him saying,
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: I forgot what radio show he was. He was like,
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: one day we're all gonna be working for Patriai. Yeah.
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: There are three great quotes about three legendary comics that
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: that I think is the credo that we live by. Uh.
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: George Carlin said, Dave Chappelle said, you don't know what
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: the line is in comedy until you cross it. Dave said,
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: George said, you should know where the line is in
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: comedy and deliberately cross it. And then Patrice said, good
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: comedy leaves half the audience laughing the other half horrified.
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: I think those are both three lines we got to
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: live by, you know, as crazy as Roseanne barr is.
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: I remember I read this one book and I can't
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: remember exactly how she said it, but to paraphrase, she
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: was just like, it is our job and duty to
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: say what the fuck we feel, especially when we know
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: this is a platform where we're supposed to be allowed
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: to do that, and people live vicariously through us, which
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: is why they love comics, because we say what they
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: think and what they feel but they can't. So if
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: that is an escape that people must have, which it is,
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: we got to do our job.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: You know, by the way, I just wanted to always
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: tell you you got some of the most gorgeous lips
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: I've ever seen.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: Jesus Christ, I appreciate that.
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: Man.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: You are a guy. I very am. Really, I'm a
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: aries I'm a romantic too. I'm good with it.
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: Thanks.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: It's twenty twenty four. Can you say that without potentially
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: getting canceled?
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: You've got some very If there was some dynamite strap
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: to me with a time and I had to say
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: that ship before the time went out, or I would explode,
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: I'd be a dead.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Like I don't know enough.
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: And as a woman, I would think that if I'm
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: trying to do that, your pussy would dry up.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: You know you're supposed to say to get me wet.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: I was gonna say the other think comedy to get
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: back to the era of.
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: I don't know if it's I don't know if it's
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: to be like like we would go to you would see.
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: I think I think Dave, especially with that special we
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: did about the whole transgender thing, because that was all
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: about the trend. He can lead the way, but in
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: order for that to work, all the other big comics
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: got to get behind that movement. He can't be a
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: solo dude trying to push us forward. But if the
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: bill Birds and the Sarah Silverman's and and Kevin Hart's
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: and the mic Apps, if everybody said fun this within
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: the comic community, we bringing it back of this. No
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: Burt duns, I'm saying. But more than him. You know,
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: Mark couldn't be out there with just him and Reverend Abernathy.
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: You need all the niggas behind that.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: You got the guy like Andrew Schultz. Now, don't give.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Me Jolts is a beast.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: You know, Schultz is a beast, the Shane Gillis is
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: of the world. Right, don't know that those guys give
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: a fuck. I mean they're white, but right, they don't
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: give it. That also is a key factor that I
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: think those don't give a fuck.
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: Calos Miller yeh yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, that there's
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: a small group. Uh, but I'm just saying it's the masses.
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: I feel like that's something we all got to get behind,
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: even if you're not that kind of comic in the
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: name of what we do in this community, how could
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: you not support it.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: You haven't done a specially since what twenty sixteen.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Netflix won't fuck with me.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: That's crazy.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Flex won't fuck with me.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: Is there a reason they have? They told you a reason?
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: Just you know again, you know, one thing about Hollywood
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: is uh And this is why I say, you know,
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: no one does self investigation.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: This ship is very high school. You know, clicks, just clicks.
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: You know, the gods sit with the gods, the preps, preps,
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: jock jocks, and people don't take the time to go, hey, man, listen,
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: I know what I heard, you know, perception, But let
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: me holler at you, let me let me feel you
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: out myself and then they can go Listen. I don't
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: know what experiences those people had, but the vibe I'm getting, Yo,
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: you're cool.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Mo fucker. No one does that, and how they go
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: off for what they hear.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's also a dig riding business though.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Well, ditch sucking and ride.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: So when you sell out the Hulu theaters and you
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: keep doing these theaters, they'll be knocking at.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: You out and that's listen. I listen.
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: I don't give a fuck how it happens, whether I
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: if I can't get through the front, whether I got
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: to go around over under. As long as i'm the
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: roads in the concrete, then I've done my job. So
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: my path and my journey may definitely take longer and
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: be harder, but that don't make it all worth it.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Once I do what I need to do, get to
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: where I need to get.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: I respect the fact that you got such self awareness
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: because a lot of people forty nine years old, they
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: still be holding on to it's that person's fault and
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: that person listen.
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: Let's not get it misconstrued. Some of the shit in
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: this game can can cause you to you know, but
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: I have done some things that I regret. I have
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: done some things. Maybe I suldn't, but it don't take
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: away from the fact that there's still the politics of this.
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: There's still the racism of show business. And maybe and
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: listen again, I started when I was fourteen. I was
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: in Hollywood and was doing Mad TV at twenty two,
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: had done Death Jam with Martin at sixteen, show Time
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: at the Pollowup seventeen for a broke nigga that come
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: from the West Side of New York and Hell's Kitchen
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: to go to Hollywood at seventeen and make a million
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: dollars before I'm twenty one and get network deals and
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: see all of this.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: This business is that'll fuck you up. If you ain't ready,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: you're supposed to lose your mind.
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: They should have a contract. He's going to lose his
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: mind at least one. You gotta This is all new
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: to me. I'm the most successful, you know, richest person
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: in my family. So who prepped me for this? Nobody
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: prepped me and said, hey, I remember Norm Nixon used
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: to be my manager. He was my first manager when
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: I moved out to LA and I remember he took
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: me to Miami and I was probably like, you know,
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: eighteen and I ain't had no money on me, knowing
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: that manager's travel or no, no, no, Norm, Debbie Allen's husband,
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: Oh okay, okay, yeah, And I remember I said Norm, hey, man,
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: let me get ten dollars.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: He goes, WHOA.
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: As a man, you don't ever leave your house without money.
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: My father didn't teach me that, but Norm did.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: So it was like again, I had nobody to pull my.
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: Coketail and go, hey, hey, you you were in Hollywood
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: and you black don't. So I'm doing everything for the
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: first time on my own. So yeah, I made some mistakes,
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: you know, but it is.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: What it is. Have you ever apologized to anybody? Oh
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: of course, yeah, like Kevin or any of those guy
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: behind it.
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: Not Kevin, but Apion and Pharaoh. I said, I said, look, man,
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: if I came off a certain way or made y'all
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: feel a certain way based off of maybe something I
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: didn't say, that I should have said my bad, like
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: I learned with Tony when I messed with him for
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: the first time, I said, Tony, I'm gonna be honest
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: with you. Man. I'm surprised you even had me on
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: because for a long time I didn't even think you
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: liked me, and he goes, dude, I'm gonna be honest
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: with you, it's not that I didn't like you, matter
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: of fact. And he brought up this story that I
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: didn't remember. He goes, we did a gig in Seattle
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: one time, me and you and I forget the other
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: name of the comic. He goes, we all sitting in
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: a limo and the whole time I wanted to talk
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: to you, and I'm like, oh shit, that's Harry Spears.
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: And I said, I never knew you had that kind
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: of respect for me or even liked me, because and
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: we're two New York niggas, so Tony's got his bravado too.
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: But Tony said, dude, I always was a fan, but
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: you always looked so stand offish, and you didn't smile,
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: you didn't really talk to people. Maybe if you saw him,
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: you did that, and that was it. So I kind
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: of just thought you was like most people use that
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: asshole and there was nothing he was basing that off.
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: Like I said something to him. I disrespected them. But
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: that's always been who I've been. I've always just been.
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: When I'm not on stage, I'm quiet, man, I'm very
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: reserved unless I really know you, and then if I
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: know you, we could, you know, turn it up.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I just I don't say much.
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: I've always been like that as long as it's always
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: been like the.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: Issue with Avion, like the whole sketch thing.
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: No, I just, I just I just again said, because
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: I think in passing I would see a peon and
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: Pharaoh and I would just kind of like.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: Did you have a King of New York mentality like
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: I'm a I'm a rap, like I'm the best rapper?
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: A lot like that. He would go to the club
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: and say nothing.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Everybody's even if they.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Club.
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: And you got to understand something like in the nineties
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: when mad TV was at it, heyday, I'm in my twenties,
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: I'm making good money, I'm famous, and I was in
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: a lot better shape.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: I will slim, trim hands, mass nigga.
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: I was getting a lot of pussy be So between
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: all of this coming at me at once, you couldn't tell.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Me ship I had some brad so but you know,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: life is you.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: Know what I mean, And you still but the crazy
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: party that you say, life is humble you. But it's
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: not like you're doing bad in any way.
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: I just you know, I'm just I realized taking a
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: step back, looking going, you could have just stepped different,
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: a little different, you know, may say hello more and
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: engage more, you know, uh, And I wish I had
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: done that.
• 35:31
  Speaker 7: But you know, she was like beings a comedy like
• 35:34
  Speaker 7: bean Comedy, Tony Rocks. You never smiled, like another man said,
• 35:47
  Speaker 7: you never.
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: Smile at that moment, And everybody in the comments was like, yo,
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: it's dope. How Charlamade is so unbothered like you didn't like, Okay, yeah.
• 35:57
  Speaker 6: He's been doing a lot. That's why at least twenty
• 36:00
  Speaker 6: times before man is Beanie Siegull.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: It's like, oh wait, I want to see Beanie turning
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: up a little bit right and let me.
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: And it's funny because talking about perception, and I got
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: to ask you because early on, especially the first time
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: I did the Breakfast Club, there was always this pre warning, yo, man,
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: careful Charlamagne, Charlamagne, try to purposely say things to So
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: the first time I came here, I was talking and
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: I was just when try to.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: And you never did because I don't do that.
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: And now on the second time, I'm going, well, he's older,
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: I'm older, and I'm still not sensing this perception that
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: you this dude who's gonna purposely.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: Try to It's never been there, like I think like
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: you in a lot of ways, just like honesty, I'm
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: asking honest question right, people react how they want to
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: react to it, but I'm never in purposely like all
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: my disrespect this person, I almost say something to get
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: this person called up.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Nahr.
• 36:55
  Speaker 7: And another thing is he don't like to leave shit alone,
• 36:58
  Speaker 7: like if somebody if he thinks you bullshitting' about an
• 37:00
  Speaker 7: answer to here, asks you again another way.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: See, I respect that, though I.
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: Respect that, though you know again I'm direct, you know,
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: and and and and in this pussy era we live
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: in direct honesty confidence. Those are all bad traits. And
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: I never understood that. You know, I love Muhammad Ali
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: to death. You know, I'm handsome, I'm I'm pretty, I'm fast,
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: and I can't possibly be beat. That man made niggas
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: at that time feel like they was worth something, you know.
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: And even though you know we far advanced past that
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: and we know were worth something, I mean, we still.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Need to hear that, we still need to feel that,
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: believe that.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: So you know, we had my gloup here yesterday and
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: he said he feels like comedy is a dying art form.
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: But I know his stance on Dave Chappelle didn't help it,
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: you know, when he came out with that, and I
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: listened comediically, if Dave was a musician, based on his
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: his pace, his awareness, he's Miles Davis and always said,
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: you raw a Carmichael. He has a lot of that
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: same rhythm. He's the lonely and spunk. So I have
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: a lot of respect for Carmichael. But when when When
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: after he came out and then he trash Dave kind
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: of for the for the transgender special, I was like, dude,
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: you you're violating one of the biggest codes in comedy.
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: You're putting your personal ship over the art. You know
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: this badge that we wear called comedy and this oath
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: we've taken that comes before anything, and so you let
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: your personal agenda and feelings come in.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: Front of the cold nigga.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: You don't do that.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Nah, he was wrong for that.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: He apologized on breath because I gave me an'll get
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: a day for exactly what you said. Because I'm like,
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: if you a comed eventually you're going to say something
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: that's going to offend people, if you're going to do
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: something that's gonna un people wrong, right, and not less
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: than twelve hours, he had the joke that was a
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: slave reality show right about him. What was it? He
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: looked at his boyfriend as a slave master teaching him
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: how to read. You know, we didn't see that one,
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: but he said it didn't. It didn't.
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: They only took a part of it and it was
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: like a full on long.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: He said, they try to sexualize it. It don't matter
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: about the setting.
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I want to watch his show because you know,
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: me and my podcast partner we talk about everything when
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: we were like, you know, and it's comics.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: We're interested to see his take on that. With that show.
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: Definitely watch it, watch it in context, listen context. It's
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: extremely important because I remember when Sarah Silverman got in
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: trouble for something regarding like kind of like black face,
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: and of course everybody rah, but contextually when you saw
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: what it was, you I went, it ain't what y'all
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: yelling about. So, you know, and I know sometimes black people,
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: as much as I love my people, we'd be the
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: first to.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Want to each other. Yeah, and it's just like, slow down,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: what's the context and go from there. So definitely watch
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: the show.
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: I do a joke about where the punchline is basically
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: Doctor King getting assassinated. You know, now, when you hear
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: that first of all, that happened in nineteen sixty eight,
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: you would.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Think, damn, that's so long ago. What's it?
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: But the way I tell it the audience, Oh, but
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: then the way I address it afterwards, and long story short,
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: it's a banger.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: It's a banger.
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: So there's a way you can say everything. You know,
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: it's just that's the artist and if you're special, you
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: know how to do that. Anybody don't know how to.
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: Do that now, you know.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: Lastly, I know that there was you was in the
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: news about a couple of years ago. I felt like
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: somebody was taking the old footage of you and taking
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: it out of hand.
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: Maybe not maybe with you and Tiffany had it. So
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: what happened with that?
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: If I can't get into that, you know, I would
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: love to because it's bothering me. Not too because several
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: Vlad appearances, you know, without fail, when you go to
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: the comments, there's the comments Man and Nigga talking about everything.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: But that and I ain't never ran from nothing, you
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: know what I mean.
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: So I want to address it, but my lawyer is like,
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: until this thing is finally put to bed, I just
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: can't touch it.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: We understand well, Madison Square Garden, May eighteenth, the Hulu Theater,
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: get your tickets.
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: And we appreciate you for join us.
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: Brother you and can I also pump my podcast please?
• 41:19
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• 41:27
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• 41:29
  Speaker 5: it up with you. And as I always say, I
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: know it's a lot of episodes, but start from the beginning.
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: It matters comedically, contextually for characters, callbacks, jokes, and it's
• 41:39
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• 41:45
  Speaker 4: There you have it. Every spears is the breakfast Club.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Good morning, wake that ass up in the morning. The
• 41:51
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