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#542 Banned Books Week and Sex Education: The Depravity Robbing Children of their Innocence · Claymore: Become Who You Are

• 0:10
  Speaker 2: I'm with my good friend, tom Hampson, undercover police, undercover crime for child sex trafficking, child porn and all kinds of other things.
• 0:20
  Speaker 2: Tom, we're going to be talking about Banned Books Week.
• 0:24
  Speaker 2: Banned Books Week is another nefarious thing I can't believe.
• 0:30
  Speaker 2: Thank God you're working with me here, and when I say thank God, I mean thank the Lord and Savior, jesus Christ.
• 0:36
  Speaker 2: When we see what's happening and that's why we reminded our audience again about your background when we see what's happening with children today, tom and stealing the innocence, you and I do a presentation as probably people realize now we've mentioned it a couple of times called Stolen Innocence, and we get worked up.
• 0:58
  Speaker 2: I get worked up.
• 0:59
  Speaker 2: I mean it's amazing to me what happens.
• 1:00
  Speaker 2: And now explain to our audience, tom, a little bit about Banned Books Week and where it comes from and what they're trying to do.
• 1:07
  Speaker 2: It's amazing.
• 1:10
  Speaker 2: And I'll just say this last thing first is that the pornography.
• 1:13
  Speaker 2: When I look at LBGTQ books, when I see all these gender ideologies, when I see all this, it's a very thin veneer and we see pornography underneath it.
• 1:24
  Speaker 2: It's a very thin veneer and we see pornography underneath it.
• 1:27
  Speaker 2: And so I think they wrap it up in these gender ideologies because they have this vocabulary that pushes back on parents, pushes back on anybody that has the real good of a child in mind and they call you all kinds of names, right, and that a child should be able to see anything and everything.
• 1:49
  Speaker 2: And parents are just in the way.
• 1:52
  Speaker 2: Parents are just in the way.
• 1:53
  Speaker 2: The state knows better.
• 1:55
  Speaker 2: And so let's talk about this, tom, because I think people need to get used to what your articles and what you're writing so that they know what they're coming up against.
• 2:05
  Speaker 2: When you're in a school board meetings, when you're fighting for your students, expect to be pushed back, expect to be called a book banner, expect to be called a hater because you actually love your child.
• 2:16
  Speaker 2: It's backwards, but that's what they call querying of our society, tom.
• 2:21
  Speaker 2: So I'll throw it in your hands.
• 2:24
  Speaker 1: Well, the Banned Book Week was started, I think, in 82.
• 2:28
  Speaker 1: I think that's what the research showed by Judith Krug, who had been involved with the American Library Association.
• 2:36
  Speaker 1: She was the director of the American Library Association Office for Intellectual Freedom at the time and she was contacted by a group of publishers who were concerned that some of the books by authors that they had weren't being bought by libraries because of activism.
• 2:56
  Speaker 1: Activist, parents, activist, you know, busybodies, I guess they would think they were and they thought they wanted Judith Krug to do something about it with the American Library.
• 3:06
  Speaker 2: So the parents?
• 3:06
  Speaker 2: Are you saying that the parents were trying to keep these books out of the libraries already at that time?
• 3:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, at that time, and it's not even the terrible kinds of books that we've got now.
• 3:17
  Speaker 1: It's other kinds of books that were just at the beginning, when authors were starting to write romance novels, that were sexualized.
• 3:25
  Speaker 1: They had teen books about sexual activity that had sexual innuendo in them, that parents were trying to get out of the libraries, and I think the publishers really were trying to limit the damage to their bottom line, the damage to to their bottom line.
• 3:47
  Speaker 1: So they wanted the library association to do something to to to counter this effort by normal citizens who were opposed to what was being put in libraries.
• 3:54
  Speaker 1: So they started this thing of the banned book week and they started tracking the number of books or which books were most objected to over the years.
• 4:05
  Speaker 1: And so now it's come up to every year they've got this banned book week and they feature the top 10 books that are the target of most objections by parents and other people in the community.
• 4:19
  Speaker 1: And they're trying to paint the people who object to this as though there are some kind of Nazis that want to drag these books out and put them in a pile and burn them in the middle of the parking lot.
• 4:30
  Speaker 1: And that's not what this is at all what's been going on for the most part.
• 4:36
  Speaker 1: Now, there are some there have been some people that are unreasonable in the things that they want to get out of the library I have to admit that but for the most part, this banned book week is targeting normal parents who want to protect the innocence of their children.
• 4:56
  Speaker 1: There are materials that are in the library that are not suitable for children to read suitable for children to read and the American Library Association, though, has a policy, has a standard, that any library that's part of the American Library Association has to allow any materials, or any electronic or otherwise that are available to anyone in the library to be available to everyone.
• 5:20
  Speaker 1: So you cannot restrict materials by age, and this is something that is nonsensical.
• 5:28
  Speaker 1: So if, for example, a parent says, well, this book is not appropriate for a 10-year-old and it should be put into an adults-only section, the American Library Association would characterize that parent as a book banner, somebody that is really trying to infringe on the rights of children, because children have the right to see anything that they do.
• 5:51
  Speaker 1: Well, anybody with an ounce of common sense knows that that's not true that children.
• 5:57
  Speaker 1: There are materials in libraries.
• 5:59
  Speaker 1: There are materials, there are things everywhere that children are not allowed to see, that books or movies have ratings.
• 6:08
  Speaker 1: Tv shows have ratings that are that where they limit who can see the movies.
• 6:14
  Speaker 1: If you have a 12-year-old that goes, shows up at the movie and there's an R-rated movie on, they're not going to let that 12-year-old in the movie unless they're accompanied by an adult and the adult says it's okay.
• 6:25
  Speaker 1: Well, in that case I think the adult should be prosecuted for child neglect or something.
• 6:32
  Speaker 1: But an accompanied child can go in and get whatever they want or see whatever movie they want, just like in a library.
• 6:40
  Speaker 1: If an adult wants their child to see the book, the adult should be able to check it out for them, although I disagree with the wisdom of that adult.
• 6:52
  Speaker 1: When it comes to schools, however, there's a different issue.
• 6:57
  Speaker 1: In public libraries you want books to be moved from a children's section or from a general availability section into an adult section.
• 7:07
  Speaker 1: In schools we want them out of the schools.
• 7:09
  Speaker 1: There's no reason for a child to be able to go into a school library and read books like Gender, queer, all Boys Aren't Blue and things like that that have adult themes in them.
• 7:23
  Speaker 1: That were many of these books.
• 7:28
  Speaker 1: They have sections in there on rape and sexual activities that are unusual sexual activities, bdsm, anal and oral sex, things like this that a parent should be able to expect that their child isn't going to get exposed to that when they drop them off at little Lincoln grade school.
• 7:54
  Speaker 1: This is not something that they should be exposed to and the parents should be able to trust that that's not happening.
• 8:01
  Speaker 1: So any school that has that material in it they need to get rid of it, and if the parent wants their child to have access to that material, then they can check it out from the local library or they can buy it on Amazon or some other bookstore.
• 8:14
  Speaker 1: So that's the issue.
• 8:19
  Speaker 2: The issue, tom, is that they want to get between a parent and a child, that there are no—you and I make this clear when we present stolen innocence to churches, to communities, to anybody that will listen that they state very publicly that this is no longer a moral issue.
• 8:39
  Speaker 2: Sex is a pleasure-based thing that everybody has a right to Look.
• 8:44
  Speaker 2: We're adding minor attracted persons to the LBGTQ flag now.
• 8:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's what they want to act.
• 8:53
  Speaker 2: So that's what they want to add.
• 8:55
  Speaker 2: So pedophilia and all of these.
• 8:59
  Speaker 2: It's amazing how far we've fallen.
• 9:02
  Speaker 2: And for them to blatantly come out and say that everything that an adult looks at, a young child should look at, is like you said.
• 9:11
  Speaker 2: It's preposterous, but this is exactly what they're doing.
• 9:13
  Speaker 2: Is Emily Rabinsky I know that they only serve, I think, one or two years as the president of the ALA, the American Library Association?
• 9:23
  Speaker 2: Is she still in charge or did they?
• 9:23
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure if she's still the president it.
• 9:25
  Speaker 1: is she still in charge or did they?
• 9:25
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure if she's still the president, they, it is just a one-year term yeah, so so whether she's very much involved in the in the hierarchy of the yeah, so she's an open marxist, yeah, so, yeah, that's what I was going to say.
• 9:37
  Speaker 2: She's.
• 9:37
  Speaker 2: She's an open marxist, which is an atheist and and takes morality out.
• 9:42
  Speaker 2: And this is what they do now.
• 9:43
  Speaker 2: She calls, she calls herself, and this is her title, not anything I'm putting on.
• 9:48
  Speaker 2: She says she's a lesbian Marxist.
• 9:50
  Speaker 2: Now why they've got to always put the sexual labels in there.
• 9:53
  Speaker 2: Well, we see why.
• 9:54
  Speaker 2: Because when you add those labels, now anybody that goes after a Marxist says hey, you're an atheist, you have no morality, et cetera.
• 10:05
  Speaker 2: Not when she adds lesbian to it, you'd say, well, you're a hater.
• 10:12
  Speaker 2: We have this thing going on, that if you're a Marxist, that's one thing, but it's better to be a lesbian Marxist.
• 10:17
  Speaker 2: It's better to be, let's just say, a black or a blue or a purple lesbian Marxist, because it gets smaller and smaller and you go higher and higher in the pecking order.
• 10:29
  Speaker 2: It's an amazing battle going on.
• 10:32
  Speaker 2: It's really a battle for the human heart, tom.
• 10:35
  Speaker 2: And look, do what you want as an adult if you're not hurting other people, but when you bring your pain and suffering and hurt and I don't know who, hurt her at some point, but I'm sure something happened in her life to twist and distort her heart.
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: But now for her to be able to push that down on everybody's children.
• 10:57
  Speaker 2: This is what's really bad.
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: Well see, there's a nefarious part of this.
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: It sounds this banned book week sounds like it's just sort of slandering parents or anybody that wants to restrict access to these children.
• 11:11
  Speaker 1: But there's an insidious evil element to this as well, because there is a movement to recruit children into a sexualized lifestyle.
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: Sexualized lifestyle, whether it's to a certain extent.
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: There's a movement to try to recruit children into the LGBT community, but beyond that, it's recruiting children into engaging in this, in sexuality, as a way that's joy-based and pleasure-based.
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: It's this age-old dichotomy between those who are Apollonian and those who are Dionysian, in other words, those who are more reserved and morality-based, and those who are totally pleasure-based, that want to indulge the pleasures, and today that's called sex positive, to be sex positive.
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: So there's a whole group of people, whether it's people who are in the LGBT community or people who are heterosexual, who are interested in just totally unbridled sex whenever you want to have it.
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: There's that group that are part of the sex positive community, that want to indoctrinate children into that lifestyle, so that they too will be just very open to have sex whenever and with whomever they want, which is what Planned Parenthood wants every kid to engage in.
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: They they have an international planned parenthood has the wrote the sexual rights of the child to include they have a right to engage in sex whenever and with whomever they want.
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and and again.
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: You know, if somebody's listening to this and think, well, I, I'm okay with that, I said you're, you may be okay with it, but not for my children.
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: And I have a right as a parent.
• 13:07
  Speaker 2: Here's what we're forgetting in all this I have a right as a parent to say no, I don't want my kids exposed to this at a young age.
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: And I think that if we're in public schools and it's I say no, I don't want porn showed to my nine-year-old or eight-year-old little kid and you want it.
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: I think we have to have some prudential judgment here that says, hey, no, let's err on the side of not robbing a child of their innocence.
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: But this has again been thrown out.
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: John Paul II grew up free.
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: When he was about 19 or 20 years old, the nazis came in and then the communists followed them right away.
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: Right away, he saw an attack on marriage and the family, right.
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: So the first thing they do is it's throw god out, which they think is going to to, to take your this morality out.
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: Then they, they attack right away.
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: They give you free access to abortions or very, very cheap but certainly accessible abortions, and then they make marriage or divorce very, very easy.
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: They're going to go right after them the father and the mother.
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: They like them to work different shifts, keep them apart from each other, et cetera, et cetera.
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: So John Paul II said what communism, Marxism, could not do in Poland, which was brutal, brutal, he said, which was attack marriage and the family, destroy the infant and the woman, take God totally out.
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: It went underground and so when communism was overthrown it came back to the surface and then he said see what communism couldn't do in Poland, which was again this attack on God and marriage and the family and the meaning and purpose behind it.
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: He said cultural Marxism, bringing in a sexual revolution would, because, he said, this is what they'll bring into Western civilization, this is what will twist and distort the human heart, this will allow us to indiscriminately kill the unborn, to actually twist and distort the meaning and purpose behind our sexuality.
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: And this is what we're seeing.
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: And so many people have been sitting in this proverbial pot of moral relativism for so long they don't see the problem with this, tom, and this is why I want to talk about this again today with you, because if people have a conscience left and they should somewhere buried beneath all of this, the Bible would say, and biblical teaching would say that you can't totally take away somebody's conscience.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: It's laying below the surface, sometimes with sewage all over it, toxic, this toxic mess, but at the end of the day it's still down there and maybe we can wake up just a couple of people, tom, to say no, you know, the government, the state, does not have a right to rob the innocence of children.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: Well, and they are doing it intentionally.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Illinois, for example, has an age of consent of 17, which I think is too low Personally.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Personally, I think it should be 21, but 17 is not high enough.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: But it is 17.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: And yet in sex education classes in Illinois they teach the principle that children can have sex as long as there's consent.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: Well, why are you teaching this to a 12-year-old when the law says they don't have the capacity to give consent?
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: They don't have the.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: And children?
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: It's true.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: It's not just the law, it's reality.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: Children don't have the reasoning capacity to make that decision to engage in sexual activity because it's a consequential act.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: You can't even rent a house or an apartment, I think, until you're 21, without a co-signer.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: There's a number of things you can't do until much later.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: So why would you be able to give consent to somebody to invade your body when you don't have the reasoning capacity to do that?
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: And why are they teaching that in school?
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: yeah, yeah why?
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: it's because they want to indoctrinate children into this.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: And and was it george lukacs?
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: And the way he believed to get the state to have more control over over people was to separate them from their parents, to get them looking at their parents as the enemy.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: And so to do that, he promoted the idea of teaching children to engage in sexual activity and saying this is great, and get them involved in a sexual, in, in sexual relationships with other people, to to defy their parents on that, on that issue, and that, in effect, would would make the parents the enemy for the children and the teachers that are teaching them that sex is okay and it's good and engage in it whenever you want to, and that would make them their friends yeah, and, and you think that that's not a way to break up marriage in the families and stuff, but it is and it's amazing.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Here's one of the books that are on your list All Boys Aren't Blue.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: This is by George M Johnson and it says right on the front of it Tom, a memoir manifesto, memoir manifesto.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Now, anybody that's studied Marxism and cultural Marxism like we have knows right away that when you put those words on there, you're after an ideology.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: So here, let me just read something here, tom, and stop me at some point, so I don't get crazy.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: But Losing my Virginity Twice.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Now again, this book is in.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: I just checked again.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: It's in the high schools, in our local high schools here.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: So, as genderqueer is a perfectly normal, which is normalizing all these sexual activities for 10-year-olds is in my granddaughter's elementary school, I just checked and so all these books are still available, you know.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: So they definitely haven't gotten banned.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: But here's what he writes I never daydreamed about sex with another boy.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: When I did think about sex, I was a girl.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Now this is a boy writing, a man writing.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: I was a girl having sex with a boy.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: I created an alter ego in my mind, named Dominic, that looked how I would look if I was a girl and she would have sex with any of these boys I was dreaming about.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: He goes on to talk about sex education and he says I had sex education in school.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: He said this whole birds and the bees conversation, which never really made sense to me, because who cares about how birds and bees are mating?
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, they're trivializing, of course, a parent teaching you about the birds and the bees, right, which is not an easy conversation for a parent to have.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: He goes through all of this stuff and then he said what they didn't teach me is about having sex between two men.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: I learned it in a Catholic school, he said, and so I had to focus on masturbation instead of sex, primarily because I could not imagine myself having sex with anyone else.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: And he goes on to say how he else.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: And he goes on to say how he finally met a boy.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: He said they started to text each other.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Now, this is what his actual experience was.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: And then he goes on to describe how they sat down next to each other and this boy unzipped his pants.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: He reached down and pulled out my dick.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: He quickly went to giving me head.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: I just sat back and he describes all of this and anal sex.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: Now this is again.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Does my 15-year-old granddaughter need to read this stuff?
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: I don't think so, tom.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: At the end of the day he says this though Now this is in the front of the book.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: He says, writing in this book, the truth of the matter is these things all happened to me as a child, a teenager and a young adult.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Now this is the author's note in the front.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: So he said I'm going to be telling you my story.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: This book will touch on sexual assault, including molestation.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Now this is his own experience his loss of virginity, homophobia Now this is his own experience his loss of virginity, homophobia, racism, anti-blackness all these things that happened to him.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: And he goes on to describe this.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: He describes, basically a dysfunction in his own growing up in his own family and being molested right, but here's the last point I'll make, tom, he says this in the front of the book these things happened to me.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: I was the victim.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: But then he goes on to normalize this for everybody else, normalizes these experiences that he had, that he was molested and all these things, and then basically goes on to tell people that this is perfectly normal and you just I can't get my head around it, you know.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Well, and is this really the kind of thing that we want to fill children's minds and hearts with?
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: You know, whenever I hear these passages read, the only thing I can think of is Philippians 4.8.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable, if anything is excellent or praiseworthy, think about these things.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: Isn't that what we're supposed to be teaching children?
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Think about the things that are good, that are noble, that are right.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: They're going to be exposed to the darker side of life soon enough, but in childhood we want to fill them with what are the admirable things, what the ideals are that we're seeking, not fill them with all this depravity and debauchery that they're going to encounter soon enough anyway, and we need to equip them to be able to handle that by giving them the certainty of what they're called to become.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: You're not finding that in schools now, kids aren't even being taught how to read and write and calculate or learn about science.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: They're all failing.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: In Chicago, it's less than 10% can read at grade level.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, here's a school out by me now and I'm way west of Chicago, so this would be a far west suburb and so away from the Chicago public school system.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: But here I just pull up the proficiency standards in the same elementary school where my, where my grandkids go again with these books in there.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: The reading proficiency standard, tom was, is 24% at this school and the, the, the math proficiency is 24 or 25%.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: So this is 24 or 25% are reading at state proficiency levels which have been dumbed down through the years.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: It shows you how incredible this is.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: You know my heart, tom, goes out to young people today, growing up really in this twisted, distorted, toxic culture.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: You know they've been repeatedly lied to about the meaning of marriage, the family, authentic love and our sexuality.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: And particularly disturbing again is the sexual indoctrination, grooming, desensitizing our children's consciences in these schools.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: I bring all this up because what we're seeing today, report after report after report, is anxiety, depression, suicide, all of these things.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: When you take young hearts, tom, and you rob them of their innocence, you take away meaning and purpose to love and our sexuality.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: The LBGTQ now up to 39% of this generation, 18 to 24 years old, is confused about it and considers himself LBGTQ.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: They don't even know what that means, tom, but 39, almost 40% of them, consider themselves.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: They're just confused and we're confusing them and, anyways, it's causing damage to the individual heart and the individual soul.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Well, it's also yeah, it's causing them confusion, causing them to become depressed, increase their anxiety.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: All of these things flow out of that, and books like Boys Aren't Blue.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Is that really building up the child?
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Is that making them aspire to something greater than themselves, something higher, a higher kind of living, or is it just getting them down, descending into a lifestyle that leads to more depression?
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: This is a dead-end lifestyle.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: It is a dead-end and again, I'm with the John Paul II Renewal Center, so I have a lot of John Paul II wrote a lot about this.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: He said this in another passage.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: He says closely connected with the formation of consciences is the work of education, which helps individuals to become ever more human exactly what you're describing, tom leads them ever more fully to the truth, instills in them growing respect for life, for love, for relationships, and trains them in right interpersonal relationships.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: He said when you take that out and you attack their sexuality especially.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: He said when you take that out and you attack their sexuality especially.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: They know this trivialization, to trivialize sexuality is among the principal factors which have led to a contempt for life, and only a true love is able to protect life and protect a young person's heart.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: We have to be talking about true love and if we don't, you know, abortion becomes nothing.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: To take a child at 10 years old and to be able to put them on puberty blockers, soon to go into cross-sex hormones and even to mutilate their bodies as young as 13 to 16 years old young girls are having their breasts removed.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: You know you can't make this up, tom.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: No, it's amazing.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: No, and how doctors can go along with that kind of thing.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: I just don't know.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: I watched the vice presidential debate last night.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, tell me what you think about that comment that Governor Walz made about.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Well, they don't have.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: They don't allow children who are aborted to just die if they're still born alive.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Well, that's not true.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: So basically he lied to cover up exactly what the law is.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: There's been at least eight late-term abortions in Minnesota where the child born alive was a, was allowed to just die on the operating table because they all he did was was comfort care.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: They didn't give life-saving Tom, they put them in a closet most of the time, and they put them in a closet because they don't want to hear this child crying while it's dying.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: And you said eight.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Now these are eight.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: I said at least these, at least eight have been documented yeah, so, so.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: But here's my point.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Somebody had to document those when that child is dying.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: They don't document this stuff.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Somehow those eight made it out into the public domain.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: How many actually happened, tom?
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: If eight got out there, I mean, who knows you?
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: know, but we lost way more than eight.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: He lied and said it wasn't true yeah and it's.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: That's not what he says, no, that the law doesn't say that.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Well, it does say that yeah and uh, and it's happening, and so it's uh and who lie and you know what those report.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Those, those two interviewers will not fact check him.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: No, this shows you again.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: They're going to fact check.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Jd Vance made a comment on that.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: He said I know you're fact checking me for everything, why don't you fact check this guy?
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: But they're not going to do it.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: It's amazing how it goes about.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: This is that, even with the banned book weeks, they are misrepresenting everything about banned book weeks, just like they misrepresent what they're doing with abortion and what they're doing with children.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: And it's to demonize the people who have a conscience and think that this kind of behavior is wrong.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Children need to be taught self-sacrifice.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Love is self-sacrifice.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: It isn't the way you feel.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Just because someone doesn't want a baby doesn't mean that that baby shouldn't be allowed to live.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: They are wrong.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: They talk about my body, my choice.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: There's another body involved.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: I thought that over and over, tom.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought that up While they were speaking.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: What Governor Walz never talks about is the death of that human being.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: Isn't it amazing?
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: You know, they just like they don't.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: It doesn't even matter that that's another human being that's laying in that closet, dying in there.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter because it's small.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Who cares about it?
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: And it just shows the heart.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: You know you read from some of these books, some of these books that people object to promote abortion as a legitimate way for these children to deal with with unwanted pregnancies.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah and that should not be taught in schools.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: It's basically a contraception, you know, for a lot of people.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: And when you start to think about that right, when you start to think about it's Planned Parenthood and SECAS, who's the education arm of Planned Parenthood, when you think about you know that these are, you know, marxists.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Sikas is a Marxist organization.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Sex education for social change, I mean there's, that's their mantra.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Of course, planned Parenthood is making money off of not only abortions, but they found out that they can make more money off of are the puberty blockers, because once a child goes on puberty blockers and once somebody goes on cross-sex hormones later on, you know they have to go monthly back to buy those.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: You have a lifetime patience.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: So if I only get two or three abortions out of somebody, I only make money two or three times.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: I can get these people to come back monthly for the rest of their lives to buy.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: And so the pharmaceutical companies are in there.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: All these people are in there trying to get a piece of our children, and this is the main point that people got to wake up to it's your children, your grandchildren, our children in this country that are being used as pawns in a very evil game.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Um, and and that's the main point, no matter what else you think about it, planned Parenthood is the largest producer of sex education material, which incorporates an indoctrination of children into engaging in abortion, engaging in transgender activities, getting them to go the hormone route and the surgical route.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: These are things.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: So they are promoting their own.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: It's a circular thing.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: They create the market and then they capitalize on the market.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: They get paid for creating the market, they get paid for capitalizing the market.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Reminds me of that trading places thing, that movie, that comedy, where they tell the guy that they make money on both sides of the transaction.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: They make money when people buy, they make money when they sell.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing right.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: And this is exactly what's happening with these operations now that they make money in every aspect of it.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you think about this.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: The bottom line and what we can get to here is that what was the again Marxist and cultural Marxism, and it could be called anything you want it modernism, progressivism, globalism, secularism, whatever you want to call it, it's the same thing.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: It's an anti-creation.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: If God is a creator right, that's what you and I believe Then he creates marriage and the family right as part of his creation and part of the sign of the beauty of marriage and the family in the world, which is bringing God's love story into the world.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: This is the best way that children should be brought up, with a mom and a dad and a family Look, we all know this right.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: And parents should be the primary educators and decide on the education of those children because they're parents, because they're parents, and parents have a right because they're parents.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: But when you take God out, then what happens?
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: So God the creator goes out.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Then the anti-creation story comes in.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: What's the anti-creation story?
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Right, I will show you another side of creation, an anti-creation.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: I will destroy the human life, created in Imago Dei in the image and likeness of God.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: How do I do this?
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: I don't like God, I hate God.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: God is out.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: Well, I can't kill God, but I can be the anti-creator and I can kill the human person, create it in the image and likeness of God.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: I will start with trying to break up marriages in the family.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: I will actually kill right the baby in the womb.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: I will actually separate them in these school systems, in these ideologies, and all of this is breaking down that imago Dei, the anti-creation.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: You think about all these other ways to have sex anal sex.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: You talked about oral sex, whatever.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: There's no fertility there, tom.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: There's no fertility.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: It's an anti-sign.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: The reality is our sexuality.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: You know, my wife and I have all the same organs, you know.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: You know we have the same body of the system, skeletal system.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: We both have muscular system, digestive systems.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: The only system that's different, what's the only system that's different between my wife and I?
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: The reproductive system.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: It's the only one we have all the same.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: I have 10 fingers, she has 10 fingers.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: I have two lungs, she has two lungs, etc.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: Etc.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: I have two eyes, two whatever, one stomach she's got one stomach.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: The only thing that's different is our sexual organs, our reproductive organs, because they're made to be complementary.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: Whenever you get in between and you twist and distort it.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: You have, you take out life and and you take out life and you take out fertility.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: If you want to continue that though, that anti-creation story, if a man and a woman do come together, I'll take out the baby that comes out of that.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: It's amazing, tom.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Well, the other thing is, there's a major thing that's fundamental to all of this.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Well, the other thing is, there's a major thing that's fundamental to all of this, and that is our way is to look at love as being a sacrifice.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Love is sacrifice.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Yes, it is what's happening now with schools, with the sex education, with Planned Parenthood.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: They are promoting the idea that love is a feeling.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: There was even a.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Wasn't there a movie or a record that was made on that?
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Love is a feeling?
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Isn't there back in the 60s or something?
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: yeah, yeah, that's right yeah, but there's people have in our age, today, people have come to accept the idea that love is some kind of a feeling and that goes counter to what it really is, and we further reduce that down to to an to sex.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Young people to your point, tom, and I meet them.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: We have an apostolate that actually presents to young people.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Not only do they think it's a feeling, but they think that they're going to find love in that act.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: That's what they're told.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: These young girls, especially that we meet, get very emotional when you start to talk about authentic love and how a young man would treat them if we really loved them, because they see what they're missing out on.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: They see that they've been lied to and I mean, can you imagine how many young girls are anxious, nervous, because they're being used and they know something's wrong, but nobody there to protect them, nobody's there to articulate this to them.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: They're searching for love and they think that giving their bodies away to some young man even, they'll find love there at the end.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: And of course, our sexuality was created to be an expression of authentic love.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: But, like you said, tom, it's a sacrifice.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: It's a person giving themselves totally to another person.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there was something that I recently posted about a dad.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: What love is it says you may sacrifice, die for your children, but would you live for them, would you sacrifice time for them, would you do all these things for them?
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: That's what real sacrifice is that.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: It's uh, it's spending time with them.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: It's, uh, giving up your time for their, for their benefit if you find, if you find that forward to me, afford that to me, because I have a presentation coming up for parents very soon, in a few days, and I would love love to be able to read that to them.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: Hey, tom, I put my glasses on a couple times to read something because you had quoted something from Philippians.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: I want to read something from 1 John 2, and this might kind of sum it up.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: And St John is writing about the evils in the world and he says I'm writing to you, young men, because you have overcome the evil one.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: I write to you, children, because you know God the Father.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: And I write to you, earthly fathers, because you know him from the beginning, who he is.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: God abides in you and you've overcome the evil one.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: Now here's the main flux of this Do not love the world or the things in the world.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: If anyone loves the world, love for the Father.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: God.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: The Father is not in him.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: For all that is in the world the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, the pride of life is not of the Father but of the world.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: And the world passes away and the lust of it.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: But he who does the will of God abides forever.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: And then he goes into talking about the Antichrist, which is the Antichrist again, is the anti-creation, tom, and he just wants to take down creation.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: The opposite of love, a lot of times we'll think, is hate and it could turn into hatred.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: But the opposite of love, which is what you described so well self-sacrificial giving of one person to another, the opposite of that is not hate.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: The opposite of that is lust of using the other person as an object and not seeing them as a person to love, but a person to use.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: And that's exactly what this is, tom, that we're talking about.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: So let's wrap this up, brother, while you're looking.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: You can look for that later on.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: I actually found it.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: So I would die for my child.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: This, a quote, is I would die for my child.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: I believe you, but would you live for them?
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Would you get yourself healthy?
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Would you eliminate distractions?
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: Would you lead them more intentionally?
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: You'd only have to die once.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: You have to live every day.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: Do that send me that, will you?
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: I want to read that is that from an article or no, it's just, uh, it's just a meme.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: That was that sent out.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's perfect, it's exactly perfect.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: You know saying and that's the way to go out right now, you know, eternity does not mean, uh, tomorrow.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: We're already eternal beings, tom, aren't we?
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: You know the the the day that we were exploded on this stage as a, as a zygote, as a single cell with half of my mom and half of my dad's DNA in it, we are already eternal beings.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: Jeremiah, chapter one right off the bat, god says I knew you when I formed you in the womb.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: He knows you right away.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: And at the end of the day, you are an eternal being.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: We're all eternal beings.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Our destiny is eternal life.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Eternity doesn't mean tomorrow.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Eternity means forever.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: We're eternal beings.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: These people are making a decision, tom, to be God, to play God, to rob the innocence of children, rob the child's life itself, mutilate their bodies, child's life itself, mutilate their bodies, twist and distort their hearts, their innocent hearts.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: God says over and over in the Gospels Jesus many times brings children into the midst of his disciples to teach them about the beauty of childhood innocence and how that we need to take the heart of a child to actually know God and to come in a close relationship, because when you're in—and he knows these adults are no longer innocent, but the idea is to take that on, because only as we were really innocent as young people we were really open to the awe and wonder of the world, the awe and wonder of creation.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: The awe and wonder of the world, the awe and wonder of creation, the awe and wonder of God who loves us.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: When you can twist and distort that and rob them of their innocence very quickly, you can take a child down and lead them on the wrong path, and that's exactly what we're seeing right now.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: Thomas, any final words there?
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Brother, thank you so much for being with us today.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: Good to be here.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Hey, thanks everyone.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: Hey, we got to wake up.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Children, just focus on kids.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: If you get confused sometimes with all of the different messages you hear, I was listening to the vice presidential debate, like you were, tom, and you can get really confused.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: In fact, do you remember afterwards?
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: They?
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Do you remember afterwards they were interviewing some people and I don't know if it was on all the channels, but the one I was watching.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: They were interviewing people later on, asking them what they thought about the debate, and they were all confused.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: People were humming and hawing.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know about this and you could just see that they were living on the surface of things they have.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: No, they've been living in this proverbial pot, within this moral relativism so long.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: They cannot see right in front of them what we were describing here today, tom, and today's show.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: I think that's why it's so important.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: You know, when you get confused, watch.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: There's two pillars of life, of creation.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: It's the child in the womb, it's marriage in the family, and we've seen both of those come down in the United States.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: Roe v Wade.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: It got thrown back to the States.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: You heard that last night, but yet we're still voting.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Right, we're making it into law to kill our own children, and this is a big battle, and you better know which side to be on with this, because, again, we're eternal beings here.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: And the other thing is when we said that marriage is meaningless, there's no purpose anymore in 2015.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: And we said anybody can marry anybody and it doesn't matter anymore.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: And so those are the two pillars, and it's not about the individual person that had an abortion or the individual person my neighbors down the street that are gay.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: This is not what it's about.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: It's about when it becomes ethical and we say this is an ethical thing that you have a right to murder children when you have a right to take away a child from their mother, which I just saw another picture of took away a mother you know the baby right away the same day, takes this baby that's born to a surrogate mother in the hospital, brings this baby into a room and hands the nurse these are pictures, videos.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: You see these all over the internet hands them to this man, this bulky, hairy man lying in a bed next door to this woman in a hospital bed, with, you know, like he just had the baby, like he just delivered the baby, and they put the baby on his chest and you go, oh my gosh, what a picture.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: What a picture, tom.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: Sorry, I thought we were going to end there.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: I had to get this out of my system.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: Well, it's horrible.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: About 60,000 people died in the 10 years in Vietnam and everybody looked at that as being a terrible thing and it was.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: And it was.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: But every year there's been over a million children who've been aborted in this country, just in this country, and so many people don't even blink an eye to that they don't blink an eye, and it's becoming more common what I just described, that you're not only not maybe they make it through the womb, but you're actually taking them away from their mothers.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: You're giving them away to two strange men.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: We don't know what's going to happen to that baby, but I'll tell you at some point I wrote an article about it.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I wrote an article about it.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah Well, you know I mean right, and let's bring that up next time again because you know it's very important to talk about.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: These are victims to these children.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: When you hear their stories later on, tom, it's not a pretty picture.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: People want to know who their mom is.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: This is natural stuff.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: This is you know, even if you took out the divine revelation, right revealed truth of God, the Bible, out.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: This is nature's laws and this is a natural law.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: You know, we know this.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: You know, in nature, an animal doesn't reach into their womb and take out their child and discard it into a garbage can.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: It doesn't happen.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: It's only human beings that have decided to do evil.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: It's amazing to me, tom, that we accept this readily, but that's where we're at in this state.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: But if we said something like that in a library, we'd get kicked out.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: No, we would never get kicked out of a library, would we Tom?
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: Hey.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: God bless you.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: Hey, thank you, Tom, Thanks for being with us.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: Thanks everyone.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: Talk to you again soon.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Bye-bye.