Latest / Legacy Living with Dr. Gloria Burgess / Keep Growing with Chris Robinson | Episode #395
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- 0:22Hello, and welcome to today's show, Legacy Living, Make Your Life Count.
- 0:29I'm your host, Doctor Gloria Gloria Burgess, international leadership expert and trusted
- 0:37advisor. Welcome to Legacy Living, Make your Life Count. I'm so delighted
- 0:47that you joined me today. I have a very special guest on our show
- 0:52today. His name is Chris Robinson. Chris A is executive vice president of
- 0:59Maxwell on Entrepreneur Solutions. He's also the founder of R three Coaching, a
- 1:06company dedicated to helping individuals and businesses achieve their personal and business growth goals through
- 1:15speaking, group training, and one on one coaching. Chris is a founding
- 1:21partner of the John Maxwell team, and as the executive vice president of Maxwell
- 1:29Entrepreneur Solutions, he is a product of the product. He leads a global
- 1:36team of over thirty thousand speakers, coaches, and trainers. Chris has dedicated
- 1:44his life to enhancing others by speaking and teaching on leadership and personal and professional
- 1:52development. More importantly, he is the father of eleven year old triplets,
- 2:00a seven year old and four year old twin girls. Today's topic is being
- 2:09a topic that is near and dear to my heart and I can't think of
- 2:14a better person, a better leader, a better human being to address this
- 2:20topic than Chris Robinson. Now. I met Chris in twoenty twelve. We
- 2:27were both attending an international John Maxwell team conference in Florida at a beautiful place
- 2:34in Orlando. And when I met him and heard him speak so passionately about
- 2:40his life, he was on fire. So I can't wait to host my
- 2:49friend, mentor and colleague, Chris Robinson. Before I bring Chris in,
- 2:55I want to take just a minute, just a moment, to connect the
- 3:00dots between today's topic on being and legacy living. Now, there are many
- 3:07many ways that being connects to legacy living, which you'll hear more about later
- 3:13in the show. For now, let me say that legacy living is a
- 3:17way of being and a way of living in the world, so that we
- 3:23make the conscious choice to be the difference we want to see in the world.
- 3:30We make the conscious choice now today, not in some distant future.
- 3:38We make that conscious choice day in and day out, three sixty five,
- 3:43twenty four seven. All right, more about that later. Let me bring
- 3:50in my friend, mentor and colleague, Chris Robinson. So, Chris Robinson,
- 3:58I just want to welcome you today, and thank you so much for
- 4:00being my guest. Thank you so much for having me. I'm glad to
- 4:04be here with you today. Thank you, Thank you so Chris. I
- 4:09know you have an amazing story and I would love for you to tell our
- 4:13listeners, you know, just a little bit about your background and how did
- 4:16you get to where you are today? Oh wow, you know, well,
- 4:20it's been a phenomenal journey and personal growth journey for me to get where
- 4:26I am today. You know, today I serve as the executive vice president
- 4:29for the Job Actual Team, which is the largest speaker coaching training certification program
- 4:34on the planet now with the number one leadership ruler of the world. And
- 4:40to think that I would be sitting here in the role of leading that organization
- 4:44today was really a long stretch of a vision. And I tell you what,
- 4:48I what I'm doing today is because of personal growth and development. And
- 4:55you know, it was because of a dream and desire to simply help people.
- 4:59You know, I started out, you know, really diving into personal
- 5:01growth and development about sixteen years ago when I was working for organization as a
- 5:06salesperson. So here I was a salesperson inside of this organization, going how
- 5:12can I grow and become a manager inside this organization. Now, on paper,
- 5:17I knew that all things were equal, but I had to stand out.
- 5:21You know, I could sell just again as the next person, But
- 5:25how can I get myself to stand out? Well, I decided I was
- 5:28going to take some courses at a local church at that time, and they
- 5:31were offered, of course by John Maxwell, the twenty one loss Leadership on
- 5:36VHS, so the big two TV and VHS. And I decided I was
- 5:42going to take that course, and I began to listen to John Maxwell.
- 5:46I began to apply the principles inside the workplace, and then I took every
- 5:51single course that they offered by John that year because this personal growth stuff was
- 5:56really working, and I decided to you know, I was implementing things inside
- 6:00the workplace, I was getting promoted on the job. The organization I was
- 6:04working with was growing really fast, and I just truly fell in love with
- 6:10personal growth and development. Well, a year later, they had decided to
- 6:15ask me if I wanted to facilitate those courses by John Maxwell. Now this
- 6:18was a big step, Glory, this is a big step, they said,
- 6:21you know, Chris, and so I asked them. I said,
- 6:24well, what does this consist of? You know, I've taken all the
- 6:26classes, but what do I need to do? They said, well,
- 6:29Chris, when you come inside the classroom, press play on the VHS and
- 6:32when you're done, turn off the lights. Now, I think it was
- 6:36that big of a job, but pressing play is the stepping stone to be
- 6:43standing here in front of you today. So I would go back inside those
- 6:46classrooms, I would press play, I would turn out the lights, I
- 6:49would fill out the workbook and I was hearing those teachings again for the second
- 6:54time, and I was applying them at a higher level in my life.
- 6:58So what it allowed for me to learn was to stay away from the most
- 7:00dangerous words on this planet. Most dangerous words on this plan are I've heard
- 7:05that before. Now I would go back in and people would say, hey,
- 7:12I've heard that those are the most dangerous words in the world. And
- 7:15so when you catch yourself asking, you know, or saying those phrase I've
- 7:18heard that before, you need to shift that to a question and ask yourself,
- 7:23how well do I do that? Because if it keeps coming back up,
- 7:27and you keep hearing it again and again, you've got to measure how
- 7:30well do I do that? And is there room for improvement? Who it
- 7:32needs to be the question? But I was going back inside that classroom.
- 7:36I was pressing play, I was turning out the lights. I was applying
- 7:41the workplace. I continue to get from all the job And then you know,
- 7:45I had the opportunity to attend my very first conference. Now, I
- 7:48know most of the listeners were probably confidence junkies and the person growth junkies,
- 7:54and you all remember your first conference that you went to. My first confidence
- 7:59that I actually paid to go to TJ's very first megafest. So this was
- 8:05in Atlanta, Georgia. I lived in Saint Louis and I went down to
- 8:09the Atlanta Dome and this place was filled with people, thousands of people,
- 8:15and you know, there was a life altering moment. An entire weekend,
- 8:20I watched the stage of speakers. I went to breakout sessions. But there
- 8:24was a breakout session that changed me forever. There was a vendor booth that
- 8:31was happening inside the vendor hall. There was a speaker showcase. Now,
- 8:35for those that are listening to the speaker showcase is really like a fashion show
- 8:39for speakers that you get three to five minutes, come out and give you
- 8:41very best on the stage. You're off the stage, and you know,
- 8:46these people were well dressed, they were well spoken. But then at the
- 8:50end of it, they said the magic words going. They said, these
- 8:52people get paid to speak. I said, oh my, I like the
- 9:00sound of that. They said, if you like to find out more about
- 9:03giving paid to speak, come on to the back of the room and we'd
- 9:05love to tell you all about it. So I ran back there as fast
- 9:09as I could and I said, I'd like to find out more about getting
- 9:13paid to speak. They said, we love to tell you. We got
- 9:16a three day boot camp for nine hundred and ninety seven dollars. Now,
- 9:22this was the first time that that had ever entered my ears, was to
- 9:26prepay for training on something that was outside of traditional schooling. So, like
- 9:31any person that hears something like that for the first time, I believe,
- 9:33I said, absolutely not nine hundred and ninety seven dollars for a three day
- 9:39weekend. There's no guarantee, there's no job one, am my. I
- 9:43didn't get it because upme to that point I was okay to spend money on
- 9:46myself, but not investing in myself outside of traditional schooling, which I didn't
- 9:52do very well at and so, but at least I had heard it.
- 9:56And then now I had this vision of, hey, you can actually get
- 10:01paid to speak. So I begin to go back and take my job a
- 10:03little bit more seriously in the ten percent of what I got to do.
- 10:07You know, our friends Cherry Roles says that, hey, what if you
- 10:11could spend one hundred percent of your life doing the ten percent of what you
- 10:16love to do. And I did that. I went back to the office
- 10:20and now I begin to take sales trainings more seriously. I began to participate
- 10:24in toast matters. I began to you know, look for other speakers to
- 10:28get around, and I really began to work on the art and craft of
- 10:31speaking. Whereas most people think I get up, I speak from my heart
- 10:37and I motivate the people. That's not. That's not. But I began
- 10:45to work on the craft. Lauria, I fell in love with the journey
- 10:48of personal growth and development. I fell in love with developing people and becoming
- 10:54the best sales manager in developing people. Not being the best sales manager that
- 11:00could put up the most numbers, but my goal became could I be the
- 11:05manager that produces the most managers? And I love it that and that served
- 11:09me very well because I was a producer of people, not just a producer
- 11:16of sales. And I came into and I found out about the John Maxwell
- 11:22team. In March of twenty eleven, I joined the very first group of
- 11:28people be certified by John Maxwell. You know, it was one of those
- 11:31circumstances where I was in a bad situation. I was one hundred and eight
- 11:35thousand dollars in debt. I just came out of a failed business, and
- 11:41I was trying to figure out how to pay for this certification and knew I
- 11:46needed this particular program, and so joined the team. I plugged in.
- 11:52I knew that it was the path for me to really grow in personal growth
- 11:56and development. And I haven't looked back since. An incredible ride, but
- 12:00I've come a long way from pressing play. Yes, yes, sir,
- 12:05that's an amazing story and amazing journey, Chris. So can you say again
- 12:11about that ten percent, because that's really I got right there. So you
- 12:16know, it's really getting clear on what you want to do and do well.
- 12:20So it's the question that Sherry Rally had posed to me years ago from
- 12:24a book Exponential Living, is, what if you can spend one hundred percent
- 12:28of your time on the ten percent that you love to do, or the
- 12:33ten percent best of you, or the ten percent of your gift, Well,
- 12:37maybe you just spend one hundred percent of the time doing what you are
- 12:39absolutely gifted at. And I didn't realize that at that time that that was
- 12:45really the shift for me. Is you know what I loved about my job
- 12:48as a sales manager of this foreign company was purely people development. All the
- 12:54other stuff I could do without, but what I fell in love with was
- 12:58training and developed through people who become better leaders and better individuals. All right,
- 13:03well, thank you, Chris, So tell tell us why you know
- 13:07finding that ten percent was so important for you and the difference the impact that
- 13:13it made in your life. Yeah. Well, I think it's accidental.
- 13:18I think a lot of people would pick their ten percent, uh, and
- 13:20I think that you should. But I think the ten percent was discovered as
- 13:26a result of how I was impacted. Was I a naturally gifted speaker?
- 13:31Absolutely not. You know, it was funny I spoke with that hard to
- 13:35believe you're so good no, it's not natural. In fact, you know,
- 13:41I've got a client now that saw me speak at one of my very
- 13:45first events, and when our very first meet several years later, eight years
- 13:50later, he goes, you know, I have to confess with the Chris.
- 13:52I saw you speak at one of your very first events, and I
- 13:54said to myself, this guy isn't gonna make it. And I said,
- 14:03oh, man, I said, that's the best news I've heard. Yeah.
- 14:07Yeah, because when people hear you speak after you've been speaking for a
- 14:11long time, they think that it's this natural skill set and this has been
- 14:16developed over time. So for me, that ten percent was a discovery.
- 14:20It's about discovering it. It's about identifying it. It's about picking that that
- 14:24thing that you're going to go after where you actually have some type of gifting
- 14:30towards that. So it's like, my true two percent would be I would
- 14:33love to go play golf, you know, full time quility, but that's
- 14:37not my gifting. Okay, that's not my gift. So that gifting that
- 14:41ten percent of what you say that you want to do one hundred percent of
- 14:45the time, that has to come from you discovering what your strengths are and
- 14:50what you're really capable of doing, what that potential is. Yes, thank
- 14:54you. I know that our mutual mentor John C. Maxwell, talks about
- 14:58being in your strength zone, being in your gifts. Sound so that's what
- 15:01it's all about. Yeah, right, So Chris, you know, I
- 15:05know that everybody has a story and a journey and everybody kind of has a
- 15:09backstory as well. So for you, what flip the switch for you?
- 15:13What flipped the switch for me? Oh my goodness, there was a couple
- 15:18of questions. My wife played a critical role in a switch for me.
- 15:22And this goes back beyond before you know, I got into personal growth and
- 15:26development and before you know, things shifted for me. It was it was
- 15:31twofold because you know, growing up I was I was a pretty wild child,
- 15:37you know, and I was going to be one of two things.
- 15:39I was either going to be dead or in jail. Either be dead or
- 15:43in jail. And that's why I just I just smiled today, going Holy
- 15:46Monkside. I run this large organization and like literally I was going to be
- 15:52dead or jail by age twenty one. I had two d wis at that
- 15:58point in time, and I you know, at that point in time,
- 16:00I decided to make a single choice, one of the best choices I ever
- 16:03made, said, hey, I'm not drinking anymore. All I haven't had
- 16:07a drink since the age of twenty two. I'm forty years old now,
- 16:11so it's been eighteen plus years since I sip of alcohol. So that was
- 16:17one choice. Second choice was that, you know, for me, I'm
- 16:21a person faith, and so it was you know, getting given my life
- 16:26to Christ and then you know, really becoming you know, a student of
- 16:32faith. And that was two of the biggest changes. But again that was
- 16:36as a result of my wife and promptly asked me a question one night and
- 16:41a drunken stupid She said, Chris, could you imagine what your life could
- 16:47be like without alcohol? And in this clear moment, Gloria, in this
- 16:52clear moment, I was drunk as I could possibly be. In this clear
- 16:56moment, I saw with clarity from that single question, what could life be
- 17:03like about alcohol? And I saw a vision of it and there was a
- 17:07piece, there was a piece that came over me. In this drunken stupid
- 17:11I said, I want that. And you know I stopped drinking at that
- 17:15time, and I said, I haven't had a single drink of alcohol since
- 17:22then, and so that was a great, great time point for me.
- 17:26So, Chris, that's an amazing story. And what a wonderful, beautiful
- 17:33wife you have and for her to ask you that question. You know,
- 17:38I'm a person of faith too, and what you saw, I mean,
- 17:41that was a prophecy for your life. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 17:47So I've heard you talk about this part of your life before, and
- 17:52I'm wondering if you would be willing to share. You know, you were
- 17:56in court, I mean, you were you know, so tell us about
- 18:00that part if you would. Yeah, yeah, I mean it was another
- 18:04you know, a judge there was very critical and this is probably one of
- 18:08the best full circle stories that I experienced. And you know, I remember
- 18:14going in. It was Judge Pelican. Judge Pelican Saint Charles County Court,
- 18:18and Judge Pelican was you know, he was a tough judge. And you
- 18:23know at that time I was also I was a licensed stockbroker at the age
- 18:27of nineteen, and you know, so I had this potential, I had
- 18:32this capacity. This judge saw this capacity. He said, Chris, goes,
- 18:37you're either going to be dead or in jail. And so when I
- 18:40say those words earlier, it's as a result of him saying those words to
- 18:44me, you know, because he had the ability to place me in jail
- 18:48at that time. He says, Chris goes, you got licensed at the
- 18:52age of nineteen as a stockbroker because you got a Series seven sixty three and
- 18:56a sixty five. The average person just does passed a Series seven license exam.
- 19:02He was like, you have potential. He says, I'm gonna give
- 19:06you everything that I can possibly give you without sending you to jail. He
- 19:10goes, but if you don't turn around from here, you're either gonna be
- 19:12one or two places dead or in jail. And so he gave me everything.
- 19:18I had, probation, I had, save time, I had to
- 19:22go to AA, I had to have a blow tube in my car before
- 19:26the car would start. And I went through that process of the court system,
- 19:33and uh, you know, that process helped me. I was rehabilitated
- 19:37through that process. But I think primarily to my faith is how I was
- 19:42redeemed of that. But I'm not gonna preach you today, but that part
- 19:52was definitely a part of the process. And it was so great because I
- 19:57remember and I've lived was two thousand and fourteen or fifteen. I was speaking
- 20:03at the event in the same city of Judge Pelican and I sat down at
- 20:08the table. I'm a keynote speaker for this event. Probably three hundred people
- 20:12in the room and I sit down and it is Judge Pelican sitting next to
- 20:17me. Now at that moment, Gloria, I am dripping in sweat because
- 20:22I'm like, I know him, but he doesn't know me. And I'm
- 20:26going back and forth. Do I say anything? Do I not say anything?
- 20:30And I turned to him when I say, Judge Pelican, you probably
- 20:33don't remember me because you've seen, you know, thousands of people in the
- 20:37court. But I want you to know that my wife was changed because of
- 20:41the chance that you gave me. And today i'm your keynote speaker. And
- 20:47I mean the smile on his face, the conversation, the dialogue that they
- 20:51had, and the people that have been impacted because the choices that he's made.
- 21:00Can I just can't explain it. It's been incredible. It's incredible what
- 21:03I get to do. Yes, yes, well, thank you so much
- 21:10for sharing your heart. And uh, you know, Chris, I know
- 21:14that you are speaking life into our listeners. And I know that you know
- 21:19your story is a mirror for somebody else, So thank you again for sharing
- 21:25it being open and vulnerable and real. Yeah. So you you mentioned a
- 21:32word when you talked about your you know, the what switch for you,
- 21:37and the word was process. And so I want to just kind of pivot
- 21:41a little bit and and ask you about the John Maxwell team and what does
- 21:45it mean. I mean, we use this term there, you know,
- 21:48being a product of the product, right, so can you give us a
- 21:51little context and then talk about yeah that Yeah, you know, we're talking
- 21:56about a friend being the product of a product. It's one thing to sell
- 22:00something, it's another thing to actually be something. You know. One of
- 22:04the preferences I've had, you know, in this industry is I've had a
- 22:10chance to meet a lot of big name speakers, a lot of big you
- 22:15know, writers and authors, and you know, what I've come to find
- 22:18out is, you know, I meet some of these people that I've read
- 22:22their great books and I meet them in person, and then I realized that
- 22:26I love their books. There's a there is a difference in the person than
- 22:34what they write, and they're not a product of the products. So we
- 22:37talked about being a product of the Park and John Maxwell team. It's about
- 22:41living what we're teaching. And so why I'm so transparent on every single cause
- 22:48because I don't want there to be this perceived gap of, oh, this
- 22:52is Chris Robinson, He's the long title whatever it is. You know,
- 22:57Chris is no longer while longer Chris is a human that was in pursuit of
- 23:03a dream. And my dream looks just like everyone else's that's out there.
- 23:08It's no different. It's a three part story, just like nor its just
- 23:12like mine. It's dream struggle success. But the difference is is that the
- 23:18people that can hold on to the struggle long enough reach the success. And
- 23:23so when we talk about being a part of the product and you know,
- 23:26enjoying that journey, it's understanding that I'm going to live what I teach and
- 23:33never teach what I don't live, you know, And then I'm going to
- 23:37understand that there's a there's there's time. There's time in order for me to
- 23:42become who it is that I want to become. I'm going to do everything
- 23:47I can along the way to make sure that things line up with that,
- 23:51all right, Thank you, and I love you. Know, you talked
- 23:55about the dreams, struggled and success and a lot of people want success first
- 24:00here, right right, So so thank you for that. So what are
- 24:07some of the other ways, Chris, that you have found, uh to
- 24:11serve others? And why are these you know, why are these ways that
- 24:15you serve so important to you? Yeah? When you say other ways to
- 24:21serve others, I really think that there's one way, you know, to
- 24:25serve people and getting to know people and find out how I can help them
- 24:30as an individual. Okay, not just as a leadership coach, but as
- 24:34a human. How can I help you? So when I work with companies
- 24:38and organizations and I go into work with a manager, yeah, we're going
- 24:42to talk about the business the leadership stuff, but we're going to talk about
- 24:48the personal stuff as well too, Because I don't believe that there's a line
- 24:51of Hey, I'm just here to help you with your with your leadership.
- 24:55If I can help you personally, it's going to help you professionally. If
- 24:56I help you professionally, help you personally. And so there's a whole being
- 25:00in place. And so when we're looking to serve others, it's about serving
- 25:04beyond the scope of what we think that we can best serve them with.
- 25:07And so, well, that's me helping a coaching client get a new house,
- 25:12a new car, patch up their relationship, help them get sober.
- 25:18Yes, I'm there's a Lucia person, but I want to add value beyond
- 25:22what I'm paid to advise them to do. Mm hmm okay, absolutely,
- 25:27So can you unpack this just a little bit more. You talked about,
- 25:33you know, you can sell something, you could probably sell anything. I'm
- 25:37just saying everything. Oh my, but you also talked about, you know,
- 25:45not just selling something, but being something, and I understand, you
- 25:51know, I understand that because that's you know, that's my that's my world
- 25:53as well. But can you just kind of unpack that a little bit in
- 25:56terms of what it means for you and again for our listeners who are all
- 26:00over the world, they may not really fully understand what you're talking about.
- 26:04Yeah. Yeah, So when I talk about you know, living into you
- 26:07know, being more or being what it is that you're selling. You know,
- 26:11you hear the phrase fake it till you make it. Okay, Now,
- 26:15I don't believe in that phrase fake it till you make it. Like,
- 26:21look, it's okay to not be it during the process, but as
- 26:25long as you're in pursuit of it, that's not faking it all right.
- 26:29But when we say, you know, when we try to behave a certain
- 26:30way, model a certain way that we're not, there's a gap and people
- 26:34can pick that up. And so I never want to give off the impression
- 26:40that I'm someone that I'm not, because you know, it's happened to me
- 26:42where I've seen that mismatch of Hey, the book says that you're this,
- 26:47but then when I meet you, it says that you're this. I never
- 26:49want there to be a gap. So it's living into what is that you're
- 26:52saying that you do. So it's about becoming the person. So when I
- 26:56look in the mirror, I look in the mirror and I say that,
- 27:02how do I become Chris Robinson? How do I become Chris Robinson? Because
- 27:07the Chris Robinson I am today isn't the Chris Robinson I was ten years ago.
- 27:11I had to become Chris Robinson today. So as you're looking for at
- 27:15what you want to be, do and have, you've got to say,
- 27:18hey, what do I need to do to become the person worthy of the
- 27:22person that it gets to be do and have those things. I get to
- 27:27run the largest leadership training company on the planet because I became that person.
- 27:33But I wasn't that person five years ago. I wasn't that person ten years
- 27:37ago. I had to become who I am today, and I now have
- 27:41to become Chris Robinson at age fifty that I'm not now. So it's being
- 27:45in pursuit of knowing Chris Robinson hasn't arrived yet. Chris Robinson has yet to
- 27:51be built. Yes, yes, And so what I'm hearing you say is
- 27:55that it's always an act of becoming. It's like, you don't just get
- 27:57to be Chris Robinson stop right, because there's more. There's more ahead,
- 28:04you know. I know Paul Bert well he talks about, you know here,
- 28:07the journey from here to there, and I've used that phrase forever as
- 28:11well. And people think that, you know, once you arrived there,
- 28:14that's it, like I'm done. Right. If you ever think you're done,
- 28:18you're in trouble. Yeah you are. And when I look at today,
- 28:22a lot of people would would think that, hey, I've reached a
- 28:26pinnacle, you know, because I get to leave this organization, but it
- 28:30with every fiber in my body, with every fiber in my body, this
- 28:34is my stepping stone. Yes, this this is not my pinnacle. And
- 28:40I'm just getting started. I'm just learning, I'm just growing and I'm not
- 28:45Chris Robinson yet. Yes, absolutely gotcha. Okay, thank you, thank
- 28:51you. So, I know we've been on a few trips together with the
- 28:55Dry Maxwell team and one that really, you know, sticks with me is
- 29:02the trip to Paraguay, and I'm wondering if you could talk a little bit
- 29:06about, you know, your trips you serve and what those trips have meant
- 29:11to you. Chris. Yeah, those trips have been incredible in so many
- 29:17different ways. You know, it's it's just so humbling because on these trips,
- 29:23for those that are listening, we do these what we call transformational trips
- 29:27and theser trips were invited into the country by the president of that country and
- 29:33we're asked to come in and train at the highest level for the president's cabinet
- 29:38all the way down to school children, and we trained tens of thousands of
- 29:41people in a period of time in order for them to go out and train
- 29:45people over a period of time so that they can transform the values inside the
- 29:49country. And you know, they're humbling because the fact that I'm able to
- 29:56step into an opportunity to be able to be a part of something that big.
- 30:02You know, it's here, I am trying to help a company,
- 30:04and then I get invited to go help a country. You know, there's
- 30:08there's a stretching that happens there if you don't go back the same, you
- 30:12know, and now it's like, oh my no, this is this is
- 30:15this company is little, and you know, I was just trying to help
- 30:18a country grow. But one of the most humbly moments was, you know,
- 30:22each time. You know, We've been in several presidential palaces and I
- 30:26remember standing in uh I think with Guatemala the first time we entered the presidential
- 30:32palace and I'm just looking around, going, how in the world did I
- 30:37end up here? You know, here's a guy that should have been dead,
- 30:41should have been in jail, and I'm standing in a president's palace.
- 30:45You know, when the word says that you know your gifts will bring before
- 30:48a brave man, and it was because of a pursuit of my gifting.
- 30:53It's open up doors that I simply cannot open on my own, and I'm
- 30:59no them, you know, there by appointment, and so for me those
- 31:03trips are amazing humbling. I was in the room when the John signed into
- 31:08a bill and Paraguay and this curriculum to go into you know, all the
- 31:14school system. Again, there's a very small group of people in this room,
- 31:18eighteen people, so the President's cabinet and I'm in the room. It
- 31:22just doesn't make sense and just just truly truly humbling to be a part of
- 31:27experiences. Yes, thank you. So I'm just thinking about the trajectory of
- 31:33you know, that first conference from TD Jake's to John Maxwell to the presidential
- 31:41palace in Para. I mean that's pretty amazing. And to your point,
- 31:45you know, you're not at the pinnacle yet, Okay, so there's more,
- 31:48right, there's more that there you all right, sos Can I ask
- 31:55you a little bit about your family. I know that you know, all
- 32:00of the things that we've been talking about in terms of your work and you
- 32:02know, being at the helm of this incredible organization are hugely important to you.
- 32:08And I just wonder about you know, your family and how you find
- 32:12time for them and you know, what your family means to you as well.
- 32:16Right, Yeah, well it's not finding time for the family. There's
- 32:20too many of them. You have to find time. I've got six kids.
- 32:23I've got eleven year old triplets, a seven year old and a four
- 32:28year old, twin girls, and so there's no finding time. You know,
- 32:32it starts with them, you know, as the foundation. And I
- 32:36think that's another big misconception that people have, is that you have to forsake
- 32:40your family, you know, in order to be in pursuit of business.
- 32:44And I can say that my experience has been quite contrary to that. Everything
- 32:49that I've done with my business, I've built my business around my lifestyle and
- 32:53my family versus being opposite. And then now everything's focused around the business and
- 33:00then it's my family. So I think putting them first, uh has really
- 33:07been critical. And I said, I don't really feel like I had a
- 33:08choice to not put them first, just because of the sheer size of our
- 33:13family. But I've always built built the business around my lifestyle, not my
- 33:19lifestyle, around the business. Good advice, good advice, love it,
- 33:22thank you, thank you. So I know that there's so many, uh,
- 33:28you know, things that you could devote your life force energy to that
- 33:31you could give your gifting to lots of things to choose from. And you
- 33:37know there are a lot of good causes out there as well, Chris,
- 33:38So how do you find the right one? And how do you know,
- 33:44uh, you know where to start to make a difference? Right? Yeah,
- 33:49Well, I mean there's a lot of great causes, but I think
- 33:52part of it is is feeling that calling towards that you know, for me
- 33:57personally, I'm you know, I don't feel like I'm family committed to a
- 34:01cause right now. It's exploratory. You know, there's a lot of things
- 34:06that I support and I get behind. But I think when we talk about
- 34:09getting behind calls is typically you know, something personal that has impacted us that
- 34:15will in triggered us to go all out for some particular type of cause is
- 34:20because of our experience. And I can't say that I've had you know,
- 34:23I've had some significant experiences in life that gets me behind things, but I
- 34:29still have not yet experienced that thing that just goes this is my cause,
- 34:34as I know right now, my calling not my cause. I know my
- 34:37calling is to impact and developing people. But to say that, hey,
- 34:42I'm one hundred percent behind a cause and I'm dedicating my life to that.
- 34:45I'm still in search for that. You know, I can talk about a
- 34:49you know, a recent if we want to go a little bit non every
- 34:52ring incident that occurred with a recent incident that's in the news with the young
- 34:58gentleman that was killed in in the Georgia area of mynors and you know that
- 35:06one you know, I stay away from, you know, political and racial
- 35:09things that watching that and seeing the video live, you know, social media
- 35:15and that happened. You know, that's something that triggered something for me,
- 35:19going man, you know that that could be me just jogging through the neighborhood
- 35:24and and you know, being misidentified, and so that has a little bit
- 35:30of tugging on me. You know, I don't use social media a lot.
- 35:36Uh. You know, I changed my profile pick to his uh during
- 35:39that time and uh, and I never I don't change my profile for anything.
- 35:44I post, you know, maybe four or five times a year.
- 35:47But that triggered something inside that true and true would have an impact on me,
- 35:52our and our justice system. M H. Well, thank you for
- 35:57sharing that. And you know that takes me back to Judge Pelican Uh,
- 36:04you know, you could be dead or you could be in jail. And
- 36:07and the truth is, unfortunately, at this time in our history, that
- 36:12is so true for a lot of you know, people of color, especially
- 36:15men of color. So thank you for bringing that into the conversation. Chris.
- 36:20That's keeping it real, keeping it real. So I am you know
- 36:29that you know, my focus is making a difference, you know, being
- 36:32the difference. Uh. And it doesn't matter if it's like you know,
- 36:36written across the sky. It could be something that just makes a difference in
- 36:39one person's life, and that person could be you. Right. And so
- 36:45my own belief is that we create our footprint, we leave a you know,
- 36:49we leave a trace of ourselves wherever we go. I call that legacy.
- 36:54And so I know that this is a huge question, but I'm just
- 36:58wondering for you, Uh, what what trace do you try to leave with
- 37:02people when you are with him? What? You know, what's the fragrance
- 37:07you want to leave behind? Well, you know, if you had to
- 37:10say a sentence at my funeral, it would be this, Chris impacted my
- 37:15life by the lessons that he talked and the like that he lived. You
- 37:20know. So again going back to being a project of the product. You
- 37:23know, I want people to know or to be able to say, hey,
- 37:27that Chris taught this, but he also lived this. He wasn't just
- 37:31a speaker of this, but he was a model of this. And so
- 37:36for me, you know, that's what I want to leave behind people is
- 37:38say, look, he is part of the product and he's a doer of
- 37:43what he teaches. Nothing can be more significant to me. All right,
- 37:46thank you, you walk your talk, you doc. Chris, Are you
- 37:52working on anything right now, major project that you can talk about that you'd
- 37:58like to share with our listeners? That's TRUC that I can talk about currently
- 38:06right now, nothing that I can talk about at this moment. But more
- 38:09importantly, you know, it's the growing in development of the John Maxwell team
- 38:14is so so important to me and my number one focus, you know,
- 38:17is I want to continue to create a space to help people grow and develop
- 38:22in speaking, coaching and training. And so right now I've got a ton
- 38:27of stuff in the words for John Maxwell teams to continue to grow and develop.
- 38:30The tools and resource available for all our members are excellent. Thank you
- 38:37so much. And Chris, I know that we didn't plan to talk about
- 38:42this particular element. But I know you can talk about it easily, So
- 38:45could you just tell our listeners. You know, I talk about the John
- 38:47Maxwell team on this podcast, but I would love to hear from your words.
- 38:52You know what it means to you? What you know, put a
- 38:55face on those thirty thousand people? What does that? What does that mean?
- 39:00Yeah? You know, for me, what it meant was it provided
- 39:02a community of life minded people that were going in the direction I wanted to
- 39:07go. You know, being a part of the John Maxwell team, you
- 39:10certify speakers, coaches, and trainers, and we truly helped people with personal
- 39:15goals and development. And when I got engaged inside the community, I found
- 39:22my people like these were people that wanted to learn, These were people that
- 39:25wanted to grow. These were people that didn't think it was crazy to get
- 39:30paid to speak, you know, they believe that they couldn't too. And
- 39:35it provided me the tools, the resources and the people that allowed me to
- 39:40grow up to who I am today. You know. So I'm here today
- 39:44as a result of you and your example, your impact. I'm here today
- 39:47as a result of so many of the team members that I was able to
- 39:51meet with, connect with, and grow you know, outside of my home,
- 39:55because a lot of people sitting at home right now, they're a circle
- 39:59of influence is really faltering them forgetting what they want to do. You not
- 40:02have for the spouse, you may not have a support the family. So
- 40:06what does that mean. You've got to get around people that are going to
- 40:08encourage you, build you and believe your dream. And for me, that
- 40:12was the job Nashville team. So you guys are looking for a community and
- 40:16we're here for you, all right, all right, Well, thanks so
- 40:20much, Chris, and so I just want to thank you again for being
- 40:24my guest. This has been amazing. I'm just humbled and so grateful really
- 40:31to have met you. I remember our first meeting down in West Palm Beach.
- 40:36I was at your table, I was in the room, and just
- 40:40to see where you have taken your your dream and your struggles and now your
- 40:46success and your significance in adding value to people over and over and over again.
- 40:54You know, we have what one hundred and ninety no, one hundred
- 40:59and fifty country sixty Yeah, yeah, I want to exaggerate because they're only
- 41:02like, you know, two hundred countries in the world. Yeah. So
- 41:09any any final thoughts or you know, girls of wisdom you'd like to share
- 41:15with our listeners. Yeah, you know, for all those that are listening
- 41:19with you know, I know your current circumstances may line up with where you
- 41:22desire to be right now, but I want to encourage you that you know,
- 41:28with the right knowledge, with doing something, with that knowledge, with
- 41:31coaching and mentoring, you can be do and have what want. And so
- 41:37if I can do it, average old me, anybody can do it.
- 41:43So I want to encourage you get in pursuit of your dream, your passion,
- 41:45your calling. All right, hallelujah. Thank you so much, Chris,
- 41:51Thank you, Thank you so inspiring. Thank you again, Chris.
- 41:58This is just solid gold. Clearly, Chris Robinson is a leader's leader.
- 42:05He makes a difference in his own life and in the lives of so many
- 42:09others, in his own family and throughout the world in his work as the
- 42:15executive vice president of Maxwell Entrepreneur Solutions. As I mentioned earlier, Chris leads
- 42:22a worldwide team of over thirty thousand speakers, coaches, and trainers from over
- 42:30one hundred and fifty countries. To learn more about Chris's work with the John
- 42:36Maxwell Enterprise, you can go to this website. It's the John Maxwell Team
- 42:44dot com. I'm going to repeat that the website is the John Maxwell Team
- 42:51dot com. You can also sign up for a Minute with Maxwell to receive
- 42:57daily coaching videos with John Maxwell himself, and you can sign up for those
- 43:01videos on the website that I just gave you. How cool is that if
- 43:08you're just joining us, I'm doctor Gloria and this is Legacy Living. Make
- 43:15your Life Count. We just heard from my very special guest, Chris Robinson,
- 43:22executive vice president of the Maxwell Entrepreneurial Solutions. If you want to make
- 43:30your life count, if you want to be the change that you seek,
- 43:36be sure to listen to this show again and again and be sure to tell
- 43:42somebody now. You can find me right here on iTunes, Audible, Alexa,
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- 44:00next week. Now, before I close today's show, I just want to
- 44:04give a shout out to all the women, men and our young people all
- 44:08around the world, because you know what we are, the ones, we
- 44:14are the ones we have been waiting for. What do I mean by that,
- 44:20what I mean is, don't wait for someone else to step up and
- 44:23make things happen, because guess what, they might not step up. In
- 44:29fact, they might not even know you're there waiting for them to do something
- 44:35for you. But you can be the one. In fact, can I
- 44:39just tell you something, You are the one. You are the one who
- 44:44can make a difference in your own life so that you can make a difference
- 44:47in the lives of others. It is truly amazing how much impact we have
- 44:54as leaders in the workplace and even in our own homes, especially in our
- 45:00own homes. That's where it all begins, doesn't it. Leading begins right
- 45:06where you are, with you, with your spouse, with your children,
- 45:12your grandchildren, right in your own homes. So, moms and dads out
- 45:15there, even when it seems like your daughter or son isn't paying any attention
- 45:20at all, let me tell you something. They are. They're listening,
- 45:23they're soaking it in, and more than anything else, they are watching you.
- 45:30Because you know what, more than anything else, Leadership is caught,
- 45:35not taught. That's right. Leadership is caught, not taught, the same
- 45:40way that our values are caught not taught. Right, let me be really
- 45:46clear. Your kids are scoping you out. They're observing everything you are,
- 45:52everything you say, and everything you do. Most importantly, they are watching
- 45:59you to see of what you say and what you do line up our actions.
- 46:06Our choices really do speak much louder than our words. A good friend
- 46:10of mine who's a former CEO always says, as a parent or as a
- 46:15leader in the workplace, in any context, your walk has got to talk
- 46:21louder than your talk talks. Yeah, let me repeat that, your walk
- 46:27has got to talk louder than your talk talks. That's what we mean by
- 46:31being Now. Why is that? Because that's how we build the bridge called
- 46:37trust. That's how we strengthen our bonds with those we love. That's how
- 46:44we deepen our relationships one step at a time, inch by inch, mile
- 46:49by mile, and smile by smile at home, at work, and in
- 46:52every area of our lives, every single day. Three sixty five twenty seven.
- 47:01So how is your walk lining up with your talk? You know what,
- 47:07It's never too late to get your walk and your talk lined up,
- 47:09to get your act together, so to speak, so you can take it
- 47:13on the road and make the difference in someone's life that only you can make.
- 47:20Remember this, how you live, How you live is how you lead.
- 47:27How you live is how you be, and it's how you do everything.
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- 49:42about my journey with what Legacy living is all about, not just living and
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