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Hour 2: GOP's strategy. · The Mark Simone Show

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Speaker 2: Mark Simone. More Mark.
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Speaker 2: Hey, it's Friday. It's a beautiful Friday. Really nice out.
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Speaker 2: It's going to be like that for the next two
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Speaker 2: days and then some rain on Sunday. We'll get to
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Speaker 2: Mayor Mamdani and the Department of Homeland Security responding to him.
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Speaker 2: It's interesting what happened last night in those phone calls.
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Speaker 2: We'll get to that. We'll get to Bruce Blakeman. He's
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Speaker 2: going to be... campaigning upstate New York. President Trump will
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Speaker 2: be there. President Trump, uh, and vice president Vance will
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Speaker 2: be all over the place. Vance going to Ohio, president
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Speaker 2: Trump going to Syracuse today, Tennessee and Alabama tomorrow. Uh,
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Speaker 2: Virginia on Sunday, nonstop, uh, campaigning till the end. It's
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Speaker 2: 25 days till the midterms. Uh, Bruce Blakeman has a
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Speaker 2: debate coming up this week. Nobody will see it cause
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Speaker 2: it's on New York one, uh, The moderators, New York won,
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Speaker 2: very left-wing, very biased. So that'll work against him. But
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Speaker 2: he's good at that. He's really good when he's cornered.
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Speaker 2: He's much, much smarter, sharper, more articulate than Kathy Hochul.
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Speaker 2: So this should be interesting. So the shooting last night
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Speaker 2: caused a lot of protesting last night, caused Mom Donnie
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Speaker 2: to go into a rage. Now, some of that was grandstanding.
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Speaker 2: Same thing with Letitia James, who's up for re-election. and
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Speaker 2: had a bad debate earlier in the evening last night. But,
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Speaker 2: you know, she's yelling and screaming and, well, not yelling.
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Speaker 2: She's talking in that very serious voice of hers. Mom
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Speaker 2: Donnie yelling and screaming, looking livid. But again, a lot
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Speaker 2: of this is grandstanding for the camera.
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Speaker 3: The individual who was shot.
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Speaker 4: Has been identified as 28-year-old Oscar Belgal. He has two
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Speaker 4: prior arrests in New York City, one for robbery in 2023,
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Speaker 4: in which he pleaded guilty to fourth-degree grand larceny and
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Speaker 4: received five years probation, and one for criminal sale of
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Speaker 4: a controlled substance in 2025, which is still pending.
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Speaker 2: Actually, that's a police commissioner tissue. You know, this is
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Speaker 2: the problem. He's a career criminal, gang-associated, And he shouldn't
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Speaker 2: have been out in the street. You know, crazy New
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Speaker 2: York judge's probation. Even though he pled guilty, he gets
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Speaker 2: probation for robbery. But apparently, DHS revealing that they don't
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Speaker 2: want ICE agents to go out in the street and
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Speaker 2: have to do this, that there are 15,000 illegals in
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Speaker 2: New York, many of them in custody, who are criminals,
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Speaker 2: who have committed crimes. They want to have them just
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Speaker 2: turned over to ICE. They don't want to have to
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Speaker 2: go into the streets and try to find them and
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Speaker 2: arrest them in the street. And DHS revealing that the
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Speaker 2: Mamdani administration has absolutely refused to cooperate in any way
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Speaker 2: or turn them over. Now, Mamdani said he was on
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Speaker 2: the phone for two hours last night with Trump.
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Speaker 5: For the past two hours, I have been on the
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Speaker 5: phone with President Trump and Secretary Mullen negotiating the release
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Speaker 5: of the man ICE agents shot. those negotiations were unsuccessful.
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Speaker 5: Just moments ago, ICE put the man in an unmarked
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Speaker 5: vehicle and whisked him away.
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Speaker 2: Okay, now, Mamdani is not giving you the whole story there.
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Speaker 2: That's the statement you keep hearing. He tried to get
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Speaker 2: the guy out of ICE custody. He was unsuccessful. Well,
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Speaker 2: apparently now, and when he says he was on the
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Speaker 2: phone with President Trump for two hours, he was on
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Speaker 2: the phone with Department of Homeland Security for two hours.
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Speaker 2: He was on the phone with Secretary Mullins for two hours.
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Speaker 2: The president was five minutes of the two hours. And
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Speaker 2: here's apparently the real story. This is what really happened.
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Speaker 2: Mamdani wanted ICE to give up this guy, release him.
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Speaker 2: The administration agreed to release him if the NYPD would
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Speaker 2: take him into custody. Remember, this guy's a criminal. He's
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Speaker 2: a career criminal. Shouldn't have been on the street anyway.
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Speaker 2: He's an illegal here illegally. And according to the ICE agents,
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Speaker 2: we're waiting for the body cam footage to absolutely confirm it,
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Speaker 2: but according to ICE agents, he tried to kill them.
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Speaker 2: He tried to run them over, ram them with his car.
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Speaker 2: So that's a guy who has to be arrested, locked up,
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Speaker 2: and really should be deported. But that was the sticking point.
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Speaker 2: They agreed to release him to the NYPD if the
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Speaker 2: NYPD held him into custody. Now, here's the key to
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Speaker 2: all this. This is the big takeaway. The problem was
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Speaker 2: Mamdani said no. Mamdani refused. Mamdani said he wanted him
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Speaker 2: released back into the streets. That's what Mamdani was fighting for.
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Speaker 2: And ICE said they can't let this guy back into
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Speaker 2: the streets. He's a career criminal. He's dangerous. He just
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Speaker 2: tried to run over cops. He's got a criminal rap sheet.
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Speaker 2: He's gang affiliated. No, they were not going to release
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Speaker 2: him back in the streets. But that's what Mamdani was
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Speaker 2: fighting for. to have this guy released into the streets. Now, Mamdani,
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Speaker 2: of course, grandstanding for the cameras. His anger looked real
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Speaker 2: because I think this is what really eats away at him.
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Speaker 2: This gets him right in the heart. He's like what
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Speaker 2: they used to call a bleeding heart liberal. He loves
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Speaker 2: these criminals. He loves these illegals. He loves these guys, criminals.
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Speaker 2: It's like this Alvin Bragg. Don't put him in jail.
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Speaker 2: Release him. And this is the hatred he has for ICE.
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Speaker 2: They're coming into New York and taking... are criminals away
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Speaker 2: from us.
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Speaker 5: New York City will not stand by while ICE agents
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Speaker 5: shoot New Yorkers, and we will not back down from
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Speaker 5: the demand that so many, including myself, have put forward
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Speaker 5: time and again. This is an agency that must be abolished.
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Speaker 2: Now, there's nothing you can do about this. You could have,
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Speaker 2: Mamdani could sit right there, and for hours we could
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Speaker 2: try to explain to him they're not shooting New Yorkers.
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Speaker 2: They're going after criminals, actual criminals, gang affiliated with criminal
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Speaker 2: records that are here illegally. They violated all kinds of
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Speaker 2: laws just being here. And since they got here, they're
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Speaker 2: violating more of our laws. You could explain this. You
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Speaker 2: could have a million people try to talk. There's nothing
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Speaker 2: you can do. You will never budge this guy one
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Speaker 2: inch on that. There's nothing you can, that's why I
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Speaker 2: always tell you, don't argue with these people. There's nothing
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Speaker 2: you can tell them. Nothing is going to change their mind.
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Speaker 2: It's not a thing about logic or, you know, anything
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Speaker 2: like that. There's nothing you can explain to them. It's
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Speaker 2: in the heart. It's what they used to call the
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Speaker 2: bleeding heart. There's nothing you can say. But we're waiting
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Speaker 2: for that body cam footage. Hopefully, Secretary Mullen has confirmed
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Speaker 2: there is body cam footage of all this. If they
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Speaker 2: never release it, well, that's a little suspicious. But let's
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Speaker 2: see if we get it later today. Now, remember, it's
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Speaker 2: also an election, so they're going to use this. It's
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Speaker 2: not just their normal grandstandings. but this is election grandstanding
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Speaker 2: as well. Now, uh, the wall street journal, I don't
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Speaker 2: know what happened or when it happened. Exactly. The wall
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Speaker 2: street journal used to be an actual newspaper. It used
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Speaker 2: to be a prestigious sort of a newspaper. Uh, it
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Speaker 2: then just turned into, uh, I hate to say a rag, basically. Um,
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Speaker 2: it's just gotten worse and worse and worse. You can't
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Speaker 2: count on it for anything anymore. Uh, about four or
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Speaker 2: five months ago, some, there was an interview with Scott
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Speaker 2: Besant where he brought this up, the treasury secretary. He said,
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Speaker 2: it's no longer a newspaper. It's like a little features magazine.
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Speaker 2: They should call it the main street journal. It's not a,
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Speaker 2: it's not a legitimate news source anymore. He really went
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Speaker 2: after them. So, uh, in the past week, they've gone
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Speaker 2: after him publishing this story about how violent his temper,
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Speaker 2: his temper is. And he's throwing these temper tantrums and
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Speaker 2: he threw, uh, a ketchup bottle against the wall. Well,
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Speaker 2: everybody in the room, everybody that works with him said
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Speaker 2: this never happened. This is the wall street journal. And
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Speaker 2: once again, he said, you know, they're not a newspaper anymore.
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Speaker 2: They're not a news source anymore. You can't count on
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Speaker 2: them for anything. So the, uh, story yesterday that broke
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Speaker 2: about Kimberly Guilfoyle, she was engaged to John jr. Remember
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Speaker 2: before that TV star, she was one of the five
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Speaker 2: on the five. She was at Fox. Uh, but at
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Speaker 2: some point, uh, They got.
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Speaker 6: Rid of her.
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Speaker 2: And then the Don Jr. engagement, that ended. And, you know,
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Speaker 2: it's awkward. So the president appoints her to ambassador to Greece.
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Speaker 2: You know, if your son breaks up with this woman,
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Speaker 2: what are you going to do? It's a little awkward. Well,
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Speaker 2: you send her 4,000 miles away.
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Speaker 7: Perfect.
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Speaker 2: The story comes out that she was getting donors to
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Speaker 2: pay her bills, that she got into some credit card debt.
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Speaker 2: Owed 100,000 American Express. Now the donor has come forward
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Speaker 2: and backed this up. It was the Wall Street Journal
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Speaker 2: that released the story. So that was the problem. It
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Speaker 2: may be true, but the Wall Street Journal is no
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Speaker 2: longer credible and nobody takes them seriously anymore. So they
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Speaker 2: asked Rubio about it. they caught him on the runway.
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Speaker 2: They asked him about, you know, he's the secretary of state.
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Speaker 2: He's in charge of these ambassadors. What are you going
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Speaker 2: to do about it? This is not the forum where
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Speaker 2: we're going to address that.
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Speaker 3: It's as simple as that.
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Speaker 2: Suffice it to say, our ambassador is doing a great job.
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Speaker 2: Our ambassador has been a strong ambassador here. Yeah. So
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Speaker 2: somebody cut out the best part of the clip, which
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Speaker 2: is then he said, I'm not going to take you seriously.
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Speaker 2: He's talking to the Wall Street Journal. Just you say
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Speaker 2: you have the source. I don't take you seriously. It
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Speaker 2: doesn't work this way. Let me know when you get
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Speaker 2: some actual evidence. Well, Problem is, the donor has come
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Speaker 2: forward and spoken on camera saying it's true. She wanted
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Speaker 2: him to pay her credit card bill, $ 100, 000 to American Express.
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Speaker 2: And that she kept telling him, you know, he said,
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Speaker 2: I can't. She said, well. you wire it right to
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Speaker 2: American Express that way there's no paper trail connecting you
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Speaker 2: and me and he said now this is interesting he
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Speaker 2: said I can't do it my wife will kill me
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Speaker 2: my wife will go what does that imply that there's
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Speaker 2: something she's worried there's something romantic between him and Kimberly
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Speaker 2: I don't know what it means Or his wife might
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Speaker 2: just be, maybe means she's going to get mad that
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Speaker 2: I'm wasting $ 100, 000 on you. But he didn't do it.
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Speaker 2: But this is what the Wall Street Journal is claiming.
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Speaker 2: And it may be true, but nobody trusts the Wall
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Speaker 2: Street Journal anymore. But the donor has spoken publicly. Now,
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Speaker 2: there's all kinds of people calling for her to step down,
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Speaker 2: that this is terrible, illegal. I don't think it's actually illegal.
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Speaker 2: And the ambassador, it's not really... an ambassador doesn't really
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Speaker 2: do much of anything. You sit in the embassy. Now, remember,
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Speaker 2: if it's a serious problem kind of a place, like
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Speaker 2: in the Middle East or some really troubled war zone
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Speaker 2: kind of, anything serious, they send a real ambassador, a
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Speaker 2: real professional, career public service. Those are the ambassadors in
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Speaker 2: those countries. But when it's just a fun kind of place,
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Speaker 2: it's usually a big, huge donor who gave a lot
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Speaker 2: of money becomes, if you give a ton of money
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Speaker 2: you become the ambassador to France. If you gave the
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Speaker 2: most money, you can be England. You can be the
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Speaker 2: ambassador to the court of St. James. Give a ton
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Speaker 2: of money. You're the ambassador to Spain. You'll get the
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Speaker 2: fun European countries. Or if the president needs to do
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Speaker 2: a favor for somebody, you're the ambassador to Greece. That's
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Speaker 2: how she did that. Now, the problem with becoming the ambassador,
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Speaker 2: you don't do much of anything except throw parties. And
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Speaker 2: people don't know this, but, uh, When you're one of
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Speaker 2: those ambassadors in France or England, you have to pay
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Speaker 2: for the parties yourself. You have to fix up the
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Speaker 2: embassy yourself, your quarters. You have to furnish it. So
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Speaker 2: there's some people that turn down the ambassadorship because it's
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Speaker 2: going to cost them a couple of million between redoing
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Speaker 2: the embassy and throwing the party. So a lot of
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Speaker 2: people don't want to spend the money. And there are
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Speaker 2: plenty of people that are ambassadors all over the place
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Speaker 2: to these fun countries. that are not in any way qualified.
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Speaker 2: Remember Caroline Kennedy, they owed her something. She was ambassador
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Speaker 2: to Japan. There's nobody that knows less about Japan or
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Speaker 2: has any talent as an ambassador than her. There are
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Speaker 2: people that, I don't want to mention names. I don't
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Speaker 2: want to say what administration it was, but can I
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Speaker 2: say which one? No, I can't say because it'll identify
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Speaker 2: the person. The guy gave so much money He was
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Speaker 2: in the construction business or real estate. He gave so
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Speaker 2: much money that he was going to be an ambassador.
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Speaker 2: That's how much money he gave. But he had somebody
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Speaker 2: go to the president-elect and say, he said, you better
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Speaker 2: give him something important. He doesn't want some stupid country,
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Speaker 2: some little island somewhere. You better give him a really
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Speaker 2: important ambassadorship. So the president said, okay, you tell him
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Speaker 2: we'll make him the ambassador to NATO.
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Speaker 8: Wow.
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Speaker 2: So he went back and he told the guy, You're
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Speaker 2: going to be ambassador to NATO. And the guy said,
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Speaker 2: what the hell is that? He goes, what's NATO? I
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Speaker 2: never heard of that. And he said, it's the North
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Speaker 2: Atlantic Treaty Organization. That guy said, I don't know what
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Speaker 2: that is. Where is it? He said, Brussels. And he said,
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Speaker 2: where the hell's Brussels? And he said, Belgium. And the
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Speaker 2: guy said, I thought you were going to get me
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Speaker 2: something good. Brussels, Belgium, NATO. I've never heard of this.
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Speaker 2: That's how ignorant the guy was. That's who gets made
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Speaker 2: ambassadors a lot of times. It's just a dumb donor
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Speaker 2: who gets it very often. So don't take them that seriously.
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Speaker 2: But again, if it's a serious place, you know, Middle
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Speaker 2: Eastern trouble spot, they always send a real professional to
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Speaker 2: be the ambassador. So, hey, Joe Rogan re-signed with Spotify. Wow,
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Speaker 2: it's been that long. Yeah, it's been almost six years.
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Speaker 2: So the deal is up. Remember the original contract? Rogan, Spotify.
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Speaker 2: popular podcast he got it was a 250 million dollar
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Speaker 2: contract he was getting like 50 million a year for
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Speaker 2: his podcast uh it's got 18 million followers on spotify
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Speaker 2: 21 million on youtube so rogan renewed it's expected thought
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Speaker 2: that it's at least the same amount probably a little
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Speaker 2: bit of a raise so figure it's 300 million for
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Speaker 2: the next five years good for him uh david ellison
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Speaker 2: uh Skydance chairman says, don't worry, CNN, the boss will stay.
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Speaker 2: We're not going to tamper. We're looking for stability. CNN's
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Speaker 2: in last place. It's got nobody watching. It's got the
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Speaker 2: worst ratings in the world, last place. Let's keep that stable.
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Speaker 2: We want some stability. Actually, what people think is really
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Speaker 2: going on, CNN is a disaster ratings-wise, financially. What's really
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Speaker 2: going on is they're going to do layoffs. There's going
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Speaker 2: to be tons of layoffs, not just CNN, but all
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Speaker 2: through the, you know, when you buy a, big thing
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Speaker 2: like that, you got to do layoffs because some of
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Speaker 2: it's a mess. CNN's a total mess. So instead of
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Speaker 2: tampering with the editorial interfering, they'll just lay off everybody.
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Speaker 2: They'll do it that way. There's going to be a
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Speaker 2: lot of layoffs over there. Also, they'll cheapen things. You know,
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Speaker 2: remember MSNBC? It was at NBC, Rockefeller Center, NBC, the
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Speaker 2: studio was like 10 miles long. It was unbelievable. Well,
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Speaker 2: NBC threw it out. There's no MSNBC anymore. They threw
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Speaker 2: them the hell out of the company and out of
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Speaker 2: the building. Now they're in a little studio in Times Square.
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Speaker 2: It doesn't look quite the same. And they don't have
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Speaker 2: the resources. They can't cut to correspondence all over the world.
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Speaker 2: It's a different. So they'll do that to CNN. They'll
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Speaker 2: trim it down, cut costs, lay off a lot of people. Hey,
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Speaker 2: Well, hey, let's take some calls. 800-321-0710 is the number.
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Speaker 2: 0-7-10. Let's go to Jacqueline in Brooklyn. Jacqueline, how are
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Speaker 2: you doing?
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Speaker 3: Good morning, Mark.
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Speaker 9: I'm doing fine, and I hope you're doing well also.
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Speaker 9: You were talking earlier in the show about how these
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Speaker 9: fake polls work and the demographics that they specifically target.
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Speaker 9: And you had a lady that called in yesterday. She
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Speaker 9: was an older lady, like myself, and she said that
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Speaker 9: she's never been polled.
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Speaker 2: Okay, but that doesn't matter. They're not supposed to poll you.
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Speaker 2: You're supposed to find somebody like you that they poll.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, but what they've done, they've gotten away from the
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Speaker 9: traditional telephone call polling, and in order to get their
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Speaker 9: demographic target group, they're going after people online. I have
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Speaker 9: been watching movies online, and as of last year's mayoral election,
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Speaker 9: I can't tell you how I was bombarded every 10,
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Speaker 9: 15 minutes with these ads for Mamdani, and that's the
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Speaker 9: group that they're going after.
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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, this doesn't work that way. What
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Speaker 2: the polling companies do, they do everything. They do cell phones.
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Speaker 2: They do online. They even do some landlines. They do
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Speaker 2: every type of stuff. The way they rig it is,
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Speaker 2: I hate to keep explaining this over and over and
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Speaker 2: over again, but there's two kinds of polls. There's the
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Speaker 2: real polls. Those cost a fortune. That's what the candidates use.
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Speaker 2: There's the public polls, which are very cheap. They're about 3,000,
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Speaker 2: 4,000 a poll. And they use every method of reaching people,
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Speaker 2: but they deliberately reach the wrong people. You're supposed to
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Speaker 2: use likely voters. They don't do that. They use sometimes
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Speaker 2: registered voters, which means anybody. But most of the time,
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Speaker 2: it'll just say adults, which means whoever they want. They
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Speaker 2: could go in the faculty lounge at Columbia and do
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Speaker 2: it there. That's one way they rig it. Now, In
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Speaker 2: their defense, they can't afford to do likely voters. It
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Speaker 2: costs a lot of money to pinpoint the likely voters.
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Speaker 2: So that's one reason that real polls are very expensive.
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Speaker 2: So they don't use the right group. They use adults
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Speaker 2: instead of likely voters. They deliberately make Republicans way too
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Speaker 2: low in the sample. They usually put them about 23%, 24%.
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Speaker 2: They should be 38%. So they undersample Republicans. Right there,
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Speaker 2: that's like.
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Speaker 2: A seven, eight-point bias right there. And then they use
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Speaker 2: the wrong demographics deliberately. Like they'll just use people in
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Speaker 2: their 20s or something like that. So that's the way
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Speaker 2: they do it. And they do it deliberately. It's to
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Speaker 2: suppress turnout. And there have been a few studies of
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Speaker 2: all these polls. And then they'll find that they were
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Speaker 2: wrong and that 97% of the time they were wrong.
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Speaker 2: It was in favor of Democrats they were wrong. So,
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Speaker 2: I mean, they're very, very slanted. But, again, they cost $ 3, 000,
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Speaker 2: $ 4, 000 a poll. The real polls that are deadly accurate,
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Speaker 2: campaigns use them. Those can cost a million dollars a month.
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Speaker 2: And they're not public, although we have John McLaughlin, probably
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Speaker 2: the best of all of them. We have him on,
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Speaker 2: and sometimes he'll tell us what's going on in them.
19:48
Speaker 2: Let's go to Bob. Brian in Long Island. Brian, how
19:51
Speaker 2: you doing?
19:53
Speaker 7: Hey, Mark.
19:53
Speaker 2: How are you?
19:55
Speaker 7: I'm talking about the ice shooting yesterday. I was listening
19:58
Speaker 7: to the top of the hour news, and the girl says,
20:02
Speaker 7: the mayor wants ice out of the city because they
20:04
Speaker 7: shot a man. But it's just classic fake news. If
20:07
Speaker 7: you don't know any better, you think it was just
20:09
Speaker 7: a guy. She leaves out of the report that the
20:12
Speaker 7: guy's a criminal alien. He's a gang member. He's got
20:15
Speaker 7: an extensive rap sheet. He tried to run them down
20:18
Speaker 7: with the car.
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Speaker 2: Let me just clear up some of this. We don't
20:22
Speaker 2: know that he's a gang member. They're saying he's gang affiliated.
20:26
Speaker 2: We don't quite know what that means. It's not an
20:28
Speaker 2: extensive rap sheet. He's got a few things on that
20:31
Speaker 2: rap sheet. But he is a criminal. And if this
20:35
Speaker 2: is all true, they haven't released the body cam footage yet.
20:38
Speaker 2: They've confirmed it exists. But if it is true what
20:41
Speaker 2: they're saying, that he tried to run them over, they
20:43
Speaker 2: are totally justified in shooting him. Let's go to Kathy
20:47
Speaker 2: in North Carolina. Kathy, how you doing?
20:51
Speaker 8: Morning, Mark.
20:52
Speaker 2: Yes, Kathy. Where are you going? I hear a car noise.
20:56
Speaker 8: I know.
20:56
Speaker 7: I'm driving.
20:57
Speaker 6: I want to do.
20:57
Speaker 8: A quickie with you.
20:59
Speaker 2: Oh, I'll be right there.
21:01
Speaker 7: Okay, thanks. How you doing?
21:03
Speaker 6: Okay, look, you guys covered that story a couple of
21:05
Speaker 6: days ago about Social Security. You know, Trump was going
21:08
Speaker 6: to send out, you know, payments to everybody, and I
21:11
Speaker 6: kind of blew it off.
21:12
Speaker 7: And I'm like, sure.
21:13
Speaker 10: Guess what?
21:15
Speaker 9: I got it. And it really helped this week.
21:17
Speaker 6: I'm just so laughing about the whole thing.
21:19
Speaker 2: How much is it?
21:22
Speaker 10: I mean, it's $ 100.
21:22
Speaker 8: Oh, okay. Exactly.
21:25
Speaker 6: And it was that extra money left over. I don't
21:30
Speaker 6: know if Doge found it, which would really be the
21:32
Speaker 6: feather in my cap. But I just I really profoundly
21:36
Speaker 6: want to say it was like it was like a
21:38
Speaker 6: little gift.
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Speaker 9: It was great.
21:40
Speaker 2: Well, it's good to hear. Good to hear. President keeping
21:43
Speaker 2: his word on giving money back to voters. Let's go
21:45
Speaker 2: to Stan in Astoria. Stan, how are you doing?
21:49
Speaker 7: Hi, Mark.
21:50
Speaker 10: Mark, I was wondering, who do you feel more sorry for,
21:53
Speaker 10: Gayle King having to work with Nora O'Donnell or Nora
21:56
Speaker 10: O'Donnell having to work with Gayle King?
21:58
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a no-brainer. Nora O'Donnell, obviously. They're both kind
22:02
Speaker 2: of useless. In real life, Nora O'Donnell is a very
22:04
Speaker 2: nice woman, very nice person. Gayle King is the most
22:07
Speaker 2: awful vulture in real life. You don't want to be
22:11
Speaker 2: anywhere near Gayle King.
22:14
Speaker 10: Mark, as long as you've been following the morning news shows,
22:17
Speaker 10: have you ever known CBS News, the morning show that
22:20
Speaker 10: they have, ever to be out of third place, out
22:23
Speaker 10: of a three-team race?
22:24
Speaker 2: No, never.
22:26
Speaker 9: Never.
22:26
Speaker 2: It's always in last place. It's always going to be
22:29
Speaker 2: in last place. It's a total disaster. It was a
22:32
Speaker 2: good question, Stan. Thanks for calling. They should get rid
22:34
Speaker 2: of it. You know, after 40 years of last place, CBS,
22:38
Speaker 2: stop doing a morning show. You've got plenty of morning shows.
22:41
Speaker 2: Do something else. Bring back Captain Kangaroo. That was more successful.
22:47
Speaker 2: Anybody remember Captain Kangaroo?
22:49
Speaker 3: If this were.
22:50
Speaker 2: 50 years ago, you'd be watching Captain Kangaroo, Mr. Green Jeans,
22:55
Speaker 2: Bunny Rabbit, and the Grandfather Clock. Remember that? Anyway, hey,
23:03
Speaker 2: when we come back, the dean himself, the greatest political consultant,
23:07
Speaker 2: campaign manager of all, Ed Rollins, we'll talk to him next.
23:12
Speaker 2: on 710WOR.
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Speaker 1: The Mark Simone Show, now nine till noon weekdays on 710WOR.
23:22
Speaker 2: Well, hey, let's talk to the dean himself, Ed Rollins.
23:26
Speaker 2: Nobody has run more campaigns, more successful campaigns. He's been
23:30
Speaker 2: in a number of administrations, White Houses. Nobody knows this
23:33
Speaker 2: stuff better. Ed Rollins, how you doing?
23:37
Speaker 3: Doing pretty well. How are you doing?
23:38
Speaker 2: I'm good. How are the Republicans doing midterm-wise? Looking better,
23:42
Speaker 2: isn't it?
23:46
Speaker 3: No? Mark, I don't know where you drink. Whatever you're drinking.
23:53
Speaker 2: But isn't it good to be a little behind right
23:56
Speaker 2: now with momentum and surging? Registration looks good. What do
23:59
Speaker 2: you think?
24:01
Speaker 8: Well, we've got to make sure the voters turn out.
24:02
Speaker 8: And that's what the president's efforts are out there trying
24:05
Speaker 8: to do at this.
24:05
Speaker 3: Point in time.
24:06
Speaker 8: And obviously, we won't know until Election Day. people are
24:11
Speaker 8: actually voting in absentee ballots already. It's a lot of
24:15
Speaker 8: little things that keep happening, like Ambassador Guilford asking someone
24:20
Speaker 8: for $ 100, 000 to pay off our American Express. You know,
24:22
Speaker 8: that becomes a big story, and that's a story people
24:25
Speaker 8: understand and don't think of it positively in the sense of, sure,
24:30
Speaker 8: I'd like to have someone give me.
24:32
Speaker 3: $ 25, 000, $ 60, 000 to pay off my bills.
24:34
Speaker 8: And she's our ambassador to Greece, and she was engaged
24:37
Speaker 8: to her son, Those things become the story, and it's
24:40
Speaker 8: hard for the president to drive what he wants to drive.
24:43
Speaker 8: What he should be doing is he should be out
24:45
Speaker 8: there saying, I need a Republican Congress to finish the job.
24:49
Speaker 3: Here are the four or five things I want to
24:51
Speaker 3: do in.
24:51
Speaker 8: The last two years of this term. I can't do
24:57
Speaker 8: it if the Democrats are in control and they'll roll
24:58
Speaker 8: back everything we have. That's got to be the message
25:01
Speaker 8: for the last two weeks here.
25:02
Speaker 3: And they put.
25:03
Speaker 8: A congressman on the other side, and you're saying, I
25:05
Speaker 8: need to go back and help the president.
25:07
Speaker 3: None of that's occurring.
25:09
Speaker 2: Hey, when he does these rallies, he's really great. These
25:13
Speaker 2: rallies are really something. But, you know, he'll talk for
25:17
Speaker 2: two and a half hours. Would it be more effective
25:19
Speaker 2: if he had a nice, tight message and he spoke
25:22
Speaker 2: for like 20 minutes?
25:23
Speaker 8: Of course it would. It would be much better if
25:26
Speaker 8: he wasn't doing rallies. It would be much better if
25:27
Speaker 8: he's going around these different places with the congressional seats
25:30
Speaker 8: and the Senate race and.
25:31
Speaker 3: Do local TV or local radio. He'll get as much play.
25:35
Speaker 3: He makes news wherever he goes.
25:38
Speaker 8: And he can stay on script for five or ten
25:39
Speaker 8: minutes and drive his message.
25:42
Speaker 3: And he can do everything.
25:43
Speaker 8: But he gets in front of these audiences, 6,000, 7,000,
25:46
Speaker 8: whatever they may be. And it becomes about his rally
25:52
Speaker 8: and what he wants credit for. And the reality is
25:55
Speaker 8: at this point in time, it's really how do you
25:57
Speaker 8: help the congressmen and the senators who are in trouble
26:00
Speaker 8: and follow your lead?
26:01
Speaker 3: So that's just my advice.
26:04
Speaker 8: And I don't see any– there's no polling that's showing
26:07
Speaker 8: anything's positive coming back. There's nothing but negativity out there
26:10
Speaker 8: and all the ads. And so we're down to, you know,
26:15
Speaker 8: who gets the road up. Democrats right now are more
26:19
Speaker 8: intense than our side is, but it's still possible.
26:23
Speaker 2: All right. Now, Ed Rollins, you've run a lot of campaigns,
26:26
Speaker 2: a lot of rallies, a lot of presidents, worked with
26:30
Speaker 2: Reagan and even Ross Perot is another billionaire. whatever they're
26:35
Speaker 2: doing wrong. Is there ever a moment where you can
26:37
Speaker 2: sit them down and say, listen, you're doing it wrong.
26:39
Speaker 2: Here's what you need to do. Is this, is that
26:41
Speaker 2: ever possible with these guys?
26:43
Speaker 3: No, no, absolutely. Absolutely not. Uh, Reagan was a tremendous candidate.
26:50
Speaker 8: Reagan was a performer and he was a good president
26:53
Speaker 8: and he knew, he knew his audience and he could basically,
26:57
Speaker 8: and he listened and he said to me when I
26:58
Speaker 8: was running his presidential campaign, he said, uh, you're my director.
27:02
Speaker 3: Tell me what to do. I'll basically try and perform it.
27:04
Speaker 3: And if I don't like what you're telling me, I'll,
27:06
Speaker 3: I'll not do it, but, uh, we'll talk about it. Uh,
27:08
Speaker 3: most candidates, especially when.
27:10
Speaker 8: They get in the heat of the last closing weeks
27:11
Speaker 8: of the campaign, uh, think they know what the audience
27:15
Speaker 8: wants and they're trying to drive it. Trump basically is
27:18
Speaker 8: combined by, he feels he's being treated so unfairly by
27:22
Speaker 8: the media that he goes out and he beats up
27:24
Speaker 8: the media that has to cover his message. Uh, and
27:27
Speaker 8: so at the end of the day here, uh, He's
27:29
Speaker 8: got to get his votes back. Right now, 25% of
27:34
Speaker 8: his voters who voted for him two years ago aren't there.
27:38
Speaker 8: They're not necessarily voting for Democrats, but they're not enthusiastic
27:42
Speaker 8: and they're not giving him a brewery.
27:44
Speaker 3: So he's got to basically reinforce that base.
27:47
Speaker 8: He's got to basically energize Republicans to turn out and vote.
27:51
Speaker 3: And that's a tough challenge.
27:52
Speaker 1: Yeah.
27:53
Speaker 2: So last night, Michigan, there was a debate, Rogers, El-Sayed.
27:57
Speaker 2: Rogers was pretty good. El-Sayed was pretty crazy. It's like
28:00
Speaker 2: neck and neck. What do you think will happen in Michigan?
28:04
Speaker 8: That's going to be the last race probably decided and
28:06
Speaker 8: probably the one that decides whether we get the Senate
28:08
Speaker 8: or not. Right now, it's the last couple of.
28:14
Speaker 3: Polls, two or three points differential, which means anyone can win.
28:17
Speaker 8: And I think it's a question, again, is who has
28:19
Speaker 8: the money, who has the resources, who gets their vote out?
28:23
Speaker 3: And I think to a certain extent, Roger still has
28:25
Speaker 3: a shot at it.
28:26
Speaker 8: But I would not say at this point in time
28:28
Speaker 8: he would be viewed as a favorite, other than the
28:30
Speaker 8: fact that the candidate he's running against is someone who
28:33
Speaker 8: obviously is very objectionable in his view.
28:36
Speaker 2: Hey, one thing about these Trump rallies, they'll get 10,000,
28:38
Speaker 2: 20,000 people show up. They make everybody fill out this
28:42
Speaker 2: thing and they make everybody get registered. Doesn't that help?
28:45
Speaker 2: That's kind of the ground game there, isn't it?
28:47
Speaker 8: Well, one of the problems with, you know, I was
28:50
Speaker 8: White House political director and ran these stuff. Once you
28:53
Speaker 8: have to decide in the closing weeks of a campaign,
28:56
Speaker 8: do you want the White House to basically come in
28:58
Speaker 8: and get a big crowd for the press, which obviously
29:02
Speaker 8: you do.
29:03
Speaker 3: And take volunteers away from the campaign in order to
29:06
Speaker 3: do that? There's not an unlimited number of volunteers.
29:08
Speaker 8: Republican activists basically should be out at this point in
29:11
Speaker 8: time doing everything they can to get the vote out
29:13
Speaker 8: for the candidates and not basically running around worrying about
29:17
Speaker 8: how many people are there for the press. So that's
29:20
Speaker 8: why I say he'd be better off not going into
29:24
Speaker 8: all these places. It takes a lot of time and
29:26
Speaker 8: attention to build a crowd of 6,500 or 10,000 or 15,000.
29:29
Speaker 8: It's not quite the enthusiasm it once was.
29:33
Speaker 3: So those are decisions that need to be made.
29:35
Speaker 8: And obviously, the Congressional Committee and the Senate Committee have
29:38
Speaker 8: to decide whether we want to their money where their
29:40
Speaker 8: priority is and the president has to start spending his
29:43
Speaker 8: money more plentiful.
29:46
Speaker 2: Yeah Ed Rons is this another problem the rally might
29:49
Speaker 2: not be the best thing but the president you probably
29:51
Speaker 2: went through this with some of them they want to
29:53
Speaker 2: do the rally because they want to get the hell
29:55
Speaker 2: out of the white house they want to go somewhere
29:57
Speaker 2: and speak.
29:57
Speaker 8: No listen this is the This is where the president
30:01
Speaker 8: has fun. He wants to go out there and beat
30:03
Speaker 8: the press up. He wants to beat up the Democrats.
30:05
Speaker 8: He wants to basically get attention for things that he
30:08
Speaker 8: thinks he's done that are sustainable. Now, whether the public
30:15
Speaker 8: thinks that at the same time, the public is talking
30:18
Speaker 8: about affordability and what have you.
30:20
Speaker 3: He's not out talking about those issues.
30:21
Speaker 8: He's talking about the issues that matter to him, and
30:24
Speaker 8: they may not be the same issues mattering to the voters.
30:27
Speaker 10: Yeah.
30:28
Speaker 2: Hey, but one of the things I don't think Democrats understand,
30:30
Speaker 2: you go into the heartland of America, real working people
30:32
Speaker 2: working day and night, they don't care about the ballroom.
30:35
Speaker 2: They don't care about an arch. Even Kimberly Guilfoyle, it's
30:39
Speaker 2: not an issue for them, is it?
30:41
Speaker 8: Well, it's not an issue today, and that's why you
30:44
Speaker 8: shouldn't be talking about it. You should be talking about
30:46
Speaker 8: gas prices and food prices and things that aren't working.
30:50
Speaker 3: You go to Nebraska, you need to talk about the
30:52
Speaker 3: farm situation, the farm chaos.
30:54
Speaker 8: You go to I never thought I'd see the day
30:56
Speaker 8: in my lifetime, and I've been doing this for a
30:58
Speaker 8: long time, as you say, where we have to worry
31:00
Speaker 8: about Kansas.
31:01
Speaker 3: We have to worry about Texas. We have to worry
31:03
Speaker 3: about Iowa. Those are our states.
31:05
Speaker 8: Those are places we should win easily, not even have
31:09
Speaker 8: to go there. But we've got to fight for all
31:11
Speaker 8: these things at this point in time. That's what scares me.
31:14
Speaker 8: That's what scares me.
31:15
Speaker 2: So if you could turn the clock back, go back
31:18
Speaker 2: to January and talk to the president, what would you
31:22
Speaker 2: tell him to do? to prepare himself for the midterms
31:26
Speaker 2: that he hasn't done?
31:27
Speaker 8: I would tell him that he has to basically get
31:30
Speaker 8: a new roadmap. Obviously, first of all, get out of
31:33
Speaker 8: the war, which would keep gas prices down, and basically
31:38
Speaker 8: listen to the polls, listen to the public. You've got
31:41
Speaker 8: good pollsters yourself who know what's going on, and listen
31:45
Speaker 8: to what they're telling you people want to hear. When
31:47
Speaker 8: you go out and you talk to an audience that
31:48
Speaker 8: doesn't want to hear your message, then you're not going
31:52
Speaker 8: to do very well. Now, the 6,000, 10,000 people that
31:55
Speaker 8: are in front of him in a rally are his
31:57
Speaker 8: most diehard supporters, and they may very well want to
31:59
Speaker 8: hear the message of the greatest president ever. But the
32:03
Speaker 8: independent voters, and the big dilemma here is, independents are now,
32:07
Speaker 8: the plurality of voters in America are independent.
32:10
Speaker 3: We're getting killed among independents.
32:12
Speaker 8: And the president basically did very well among independents two
32:15
Speaker 8: years ago, who now lost that vote.
32:17
Speaker 3: And that's the vote that's going to take us down.
32:19
Speaker 2: Well, except New York. You know, it turns out in
32:21
Speaker 2: the latest polling, Bruce Blakeman is very strong with independents.
32:25
Speaker 2: Is that going to be a big factor?
32:28
Speaker 3: Same, same drill. If he gets the independent vote, he's
32:30
Speaker 3: going to win. If he doesn't get the independent vote,
32:31
Speaker 3: he's going to lose.
32:32
Speaker 8: Wow.
32:33
Speaker 2: Well, because it looks like right now he's got 60%
32:35
Speaker 2: of independents. Pretty good.
32:37
Speaker 3: He's got to maintain that and make sure they vote.
32:40
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, Ed Rollins, brilliant as always. Nobody knows this
32:43
Speaker 2: stuff better. Ed Rollins, great talking to you. We'll do
32:46
Speaker 2: it again soon.
32:47
Speaker 7: Thank you. Great. Thanks, Bob.
32:49
Speaker 2: Thanks. Take care. Speaking of Bruce Blakeman, he'll be with
32:52
Speaker 2: us later in the show. We'll talk to him in
32:55
Speaker 2: the next hour. And I think he's going to campaign
32:58
Speaker 2: later today with President Trump. I think they're both headed
33:01
Speaker 2: to Syracuse. Well, we'll get the answer when we talk
33:03
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33:06
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33:08
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33:26
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33:33
Speaker 2: Well, hey, Sunday night. Were you a big 30 Rock fan?
33:38
Speaker 2: They're having the 30 Rock reunion, Radio City. It's Sunday night.
33:43
Speaker 2: and apparently they've lowered the ticket prices. Ticket prices just
33:47
Speaker 2: dropped 30%. Apparently they're not selling this out. It's a
33:50
Speaker 2: lot of seats. It's 6,000 seats at Radio City. They
33:53
Speaker 2: say everybody will be there, Tina Fey, Alec Baldwin, Tracy Morgan,
33:57
Speaker 2: and the rest of the cast, confirmed to appear. This
34:01
Speaker 2: will celebrate the 20th anniversary of the pilot of 30 Rock,
34:07
Speaker 2: 20th anniversary. Now, it's one night only. It's Sunday night,
34:10
Speaker 2: Radio City, They say it will not be televised. This
34:12
Speaker 2: is not where you, you know, they're doing this for
34:15
Speaker 2: a TV special. This will not be televised, but there's
34:18
Speaker 2: some tickets left. 30% off Radio City Sunday night. Now,
34:26
Speaker 2: these bad polls, the network's apparently promoting the hell out
34:29
Speaker 2: of these bad polls. I'm explaining to you the fake
34:32
Speaker 2: public polls. Why are they doing it? Well, they're trying
34:34
Speaker 2: to suppress GOP turnout ahead of the midterms. You run
34:38
Speaker 2: these polls. and it discourages Republicans from even bothering to vote.
34:43
Speaker 2: That's the reason they do that. Now, you can always
34:46
Speaker 2: tell who's in trouble by how many attack ads they run.
34:51
Speaker 2: You'll notice Kathy Hochul is suddenly spending millions on nonstop
34:56
Speaker 2: attack ads on Blakeman. That's because he's doing very well.
35:00
Speaker 2: She wouldn't panic and do that if she didn't need to.
35:02
Speaker 2: He'll be with us in the next hour, so we'll
35:05
Speaker 2: ask him about that. There's a debate. Hochul Blakeman debates
35:10
Speaker 2: coming up Tuesday night. Well, we'll get to that. We'll
35:14
Speaker 2: get to that in the next hour. Lots to talk
35:15
Speaker 2: to him about. It's going to be a beautiful Friday, sunny,
35:19
Speaker 2: 70 degrees, kind of the same tomorrow, rain on Sunday.
35:22
Speaker 2: We've got another hour to go, so stay right there.
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35:28
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