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Credlin | 30 July · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Predo Quedlin live from year twenty four.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, Welcome to the program. Here's what's coming up
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Speaker 2: tonight on Predlin, a federal labor MP charged with two
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Speaker 2: counts of assault, the PM refusing to demand that he
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Speaker 2: stand down, and I hotly contested Darwin seat that could
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Speaker 2: now be in play. I'll get you an update from
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Speaker 2: our bloke, ol Matt Cunningham, who broke the story day
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Speaker 2: two of Ben Carroll as Victorian premier. Already it's hard
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Speaker 2: to know where he stands, be that on the white
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Speaker 2: elephant to the suburban rail loop of Dan Andrews and
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Speaker 2: that bronze statue. But the Liberal leader Jess Wilson, well,
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Speaker 2: she's already said Dan's bronze is scraped medal if she's elected.
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Speaker 2: Plus another flashpoint in the debate over biology versus trans ideology,
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Speaker 2: Curly Smith losing her appeal against a finding that she
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Speaker 2: unlawfully vilified two transgender footballers. She says I was just
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Speaker 2: fighting to protect spaces for women. I'll speak to Curely later.
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Speaker 2: And Pauline Hanson puts forward a plan to lock isis
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Speaker 2: linked Austradians from our country. I'll speak to Shadow attorney
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Speaker 2: General Macadia cash to see if they'll work with one nation,
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Speaker 2: but already Tony Burke is refusing to play bare.
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Speaker 3: I would not want to go down a path where
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Speaker 3: somehow we started a principle that countries don't have to
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Speaker 3: take their citizens back.
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Speaker 2: We'll stay with that issue because listen carefully here to
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Speaker 2: the words of former Labor Minister, former army officer Mike Kelly.
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Speaker 4: The bad news is that there's these elements that are
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Speaker 4: rising within the Labor movement that have this unholy alliance
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Speaker 4: between extreme revolutionary Marxists and Aslamist extremists that are trying
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Speaker 4: to pervert the party. And their goal is not a
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Speaker 4: two state solution which is aligned with Hamas, because our
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Speaker 4: mass doesn't support a two state solution.
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Speaker 2: Remember that a Labor insider warning about the rise of
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Speaker 2: Islamist extremists inside the Labor Party. Now listen today to
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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister asked about the return to this country
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Speaker 2: of doctor Jihad, the Australian Islamic state doctor captured in
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Speaker 2: Syria with hardcore terrorist fighters now locked up in a
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Speaker 2: jail in Iraq.
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Speaker 5: Citizenship does bring certain rights under the Constitution and we
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Speaker 5: will do everything we can where of course within the
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Speaker 5: law though, and will also of course provide no support
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Speaker 5: for any of these people to return to Australia.
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Speaker 2: See y Kelly is so concerned about the rise of
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Speaker 2: Islamist extremists. That's his phrase, Islamist extremists inside Labor. Anthony
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Speaker 2: Albanezi and his government, well, they have known about doctor
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Speaker 2: g Hard for four years, and for four years they
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Speaker 2: have kept his existence a secret. We only know about
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Speaker 2: him now because journalist Muhammad al Pharez uncovered the truth,
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Speaker 2: and the Iraqi government well, they answered his questions in
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Speaker 2: a way that our government still refuses to. Here's Alpharees
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Speaker 2: on my show exposing Labour's deception.
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Speaker 6: The government knows everything, in my opinion, and what the
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Speaker 6: Iraqi government told us the Australian is that the embassy
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Speaker 6: in Baghdad is following his case and not just his case,
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Speaker 6: the case of every Australian national in Iraq. So what
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Speaker 6: that tells us is that the embassy in Baghdad operates
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Speaker 6: for the Australian government and what they also our sources
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Speaker 6: have said that Defat was briefed on this back in
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Speaker 6: twenty twenty two and in nineteen. Obviously, as we reported.
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Speaker 2: Labor is lying. The Prime Minister is lying. He's lying
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Speaker 2: what he says. He won't give doctor g Hart any help,
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Speaker 2: and he's playing you for a fool, pretending that if
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Speaker 2: this isis man wants to come back here, his government's
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Speaker 2: all but powerless to stop him. Because the fact is
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Speaker 2: they are not powerless, as former Federal Police Detective Superintendent
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Speaker 2: David Craig has repeatedly made clear.
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Speaker 7: First thing the government needs to be doing is using
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Speaker 7: these temporary exclusion orders. Now, I've seen Tony Burke say
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Speaker 7: that there'll be a constitutional challenge or that the High
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Speaker 7: Court won't like it, or the fact is no high
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Speaker 7: court has actually tested the validity constitutional validity of temporary
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Speaker 7: exclusion orders, so that's a nonsense.
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Speaker 2: He's scared of something that doesn't actually exist.
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Speaker 7: If this is going to push our laws to the
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Speaker 7: High Court, then this is the case to do it on.
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Speaker 2: And if the law need to be boosted, made tougher
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Speaker 2: to cut off any risk of legal challenge, then that's
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Speaker 2: what we have a parliament to do. The Parliament sits
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Speaker 2: again in ten days time. Now, that's more than enough
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Speaker 2: time to get any new bills drafted to keep this
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Speaker 2: doctor g Hard out and the twelve other Australian men
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Speaker 2: linked to ISIS sitting with him in that Iraqi prison. Now,
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Speaker 2: for the better part of a week now, Alberanezi has
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Speaker 2: dodged media questions about this isis doctor, so to Tony Burke.
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Speaker 2: But today the Home Affairs Minister, well, he was also
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Speaker 2: out in front of the camera, forced to respond to
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Speaker 2: draft legislation from one nation to do what the government
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Speaker 2: so far has refused to do, and that's to toughen
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Speaker 2: these laws to keep the terrorists, alleged terrorists out.
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Speaker 3: On all the advice that I've had, something like what's
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Speaker 3: being proposed here at last about thirty seconds in the
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Speaker 3: High Court.
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Speaker 2: I mean, come on, you're not even going to try
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Speaker 2: Tony Burke. You're not even trying. Hansen's bill isn't strong enough,
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Speaker 2: as you say that, it wouldn't last thirty minutes in
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Speaker 2: the High Court, as you say, then you've got a
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Speaker 2: whole apartment at your disposal. Where's your bill, where's your
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Speaker 2: tough legislation? Where is it? Fifteen thousand employees in your
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Speaker 2: own department, and what none of them, not one person,
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Speaker 2: can draft some legislation. You know what's happening here in
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Speaker 2: my opinion Labor wants these people back, that Labor will
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Speaker 2: let these men come back. The brutal truth is that
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Speaker 2: Labor wants them back in Australia. That Labor will let
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Speaker 2: these men come back. Now, whether it's the high Muslim
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Speaker 2: vote in Labor held seats like Burke's own seat of Watson,
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Speaker 2: or whether it's the takeover by Islamist extremists is foreshadowed
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Speaker 2: by Mike Kelly. I don't know, I don't know what's
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Speaker 2: driving this madness, but it's a complete disregard for the
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Speaker 2: first duty of government, and that first duty is to
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Speaker 2: keep Australian safe, because we can't be safe, as Bondi
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Speaker 2: has shown us, if we keep importing hate. And there
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Speaker 2: is no doubt if the allegations about these thirteen men
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Speaker 2: are true, that bringing known terrorist fighters back into this
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Speaker 2: country is importing hate, radical Islamist hate. Now, I've been
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Speaker 2: warning for years that Labor always had a plan to
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Speaker 2: bring these men home. First, you know, the soft cell
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Speaker 2: of the women and children, then the men. It was
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Speaker 2: always about the men. Albanezi and Burke, if they do
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Speaker 2: not keep these men out, if they don't use the
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Speaker 2: laws they have now will pass stronger ones. If that's
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Speaker 2: what's needed. If they don't keep these men out, then
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Speaker 2: know this, Labor is selling your safety for votes. Labor
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Speaker 2: is selling your right to live free from the scourge
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Speaker 2: of Islamist terrorism for vote. That explains the secrecy, That
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Speaker 2: explains the lie of we won't help them at the
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Speaker 2: same time as the government's giving them a passport. It
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Speaker 2: also explains why they're not sitting down with the opposition
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Speaker 2: and with one nation, with whomever they need to find
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Speaker 2: a way through this. Now faced with this same issue
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Speaker 2: of Islamic state before, I was in the room on
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Speaker 2: many occasions where then PM Tony Abbott and then Opposition
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Speaker 2: Leader Bill short And met. We had national security challenges
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Speaker 2: about Islamic state back then too, but they worked through
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Speaker 2: difficult issues like that. Back then, they found a way
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Speaker 2: to agree on draft legislation. When the meeting ended, Abbot
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Speaker 2: and shortened, they shook hands, they walked out of their room,
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Speaker 2: out of the office and into the Parliament and passed
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Speaker 2: the laws needed to keep Australian safe. So trust me
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Speaker 2: on this. It can be done if there's will at
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Speaker 2: the top, and it must be done now. Over the
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Speaker 2: next ten days before Parliament resumes. Albanezi must sit down
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Speaker 2: with all sides of politics now and work this out.
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Speaker 2: Otherwise I guarantee these thirteen Islamist extremists will be here
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Speaker 2: in Australia before you know it. Now, Look, last week
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Speaker 2: I discussed the parallel universe that exists inside the media industry.
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Speaker 2: As you know, I don't call myself a journalist, and
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Speaker 2: I correct anyone that does. If anything, I'm a lawyer
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Speaker 2: by training and a political strategist by profession. Here on
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Speaker 2: Sky News, I host an opinion program and that's what
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Speaker 2: you get every night of the week, my opinion and
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Speaker 2: the opinion of my guests on all the big issues
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Speaker 2: facing our country. But that's an honesty you don't always
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Speaker 2: get from others, do you, From the media types who
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Speaker 2: like to masquerade as straight back journalist, when in fact
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Speaker 2: it's opinion dressed up as straight talk and it's about
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Speaker 2: as biased as you get now. As you know, it's
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Speaker 2: what they say that's a concern, but just as relevant,
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Speaker 2: it's also what they don't say, what they leave out,
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Speaker 2: the questions they're not prepared to ask. The politicians they
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Speaker 2: go easy on, and let's be honest, it's a sheer
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Speaker 2: bloody hypocrisy too, like this, all the manufactured outrage of
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Speaker 2: at a billboard demanding that you senter Alan resign as Premier.
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Speaker 2: Well that's happened. She's now been ditched. But also almost
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Speaker 2: crickets when a female business leader, she's not even in politics,
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Speaker 2: gets threatened with sexual attack. Yes, that's what it is.
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Speaker 2: When you use the object to rape someone ainally and
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Speaker 2: then it gets aired on the taxpayer fund at ABC
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Speaker 2: is so called satire. Well not funny at all. Gina
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Speaker 2: Reinhart gets named and mocked and or the ABC they
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Speaker 2: get shielded by the government, shielded by a female, a
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Speaker 2: female minister at that. My personal review is it's unacceptable.
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Speaker 2: I like any Australian, there's stuff I see on TV
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Speaker 2: that I don't agree with. I respect the editorial independence
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Speaker 2: of the ABC, but I understand they have now referred
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Speaker 2: it to the Ombudsman. I think that was the right
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Speaker 2: thing to do. Labour's Me and Girls, well they've clearly gone.
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Speaker 2: A new member of the team in Artica Wells quick
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Speaker 2: to call a billboard misogyny if it's about a woman
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Speaker 2: on the left, but happy to step around the issue
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Speaker 2: of sexual assault if a woman doesn't vote for them.
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Speaker 2: Gina Reinhart deserves a full and immediate apology from the
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Speaker 2: ABC and for all of that content to be taken
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Speaker 2: offline and that filmmaker shown the door. Now there's been
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Speaker 2: something late today from the woman involved, and sorry, she
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Speaker 2: says to anyone that I have offended. But she doesn't
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Speaker 2: even have the courage to name Missus Reinhart. And while
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Speaker 2: they're all out there trying to humiliate her, well, do
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Speaker 2: you know what she's done overnight? Well, she's kept her
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Speaker 2: promise to the athletes, that's what she's done.
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Speaker 8: Now.
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Speaker 2: After Australia's outstanding metal hall at the comm Games in Glasgow,
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Speaker 2: Missus Ryanhart's paid out over one point two million in
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Speaker 2: cash bonuses to swimmers, as she said she would. Thirty
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Speaker 2: six gold medals. Gold medals are won in the pool,
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Speaker 2: sixteen silver, twenty three bronze. So you do the math,
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Speaker 2: twenty thousand for a gold medal fifteen, she said, if
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Speaker 2: you've got silver and a ten thousand dollars bonus for bronze.
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Speaker 2: And she's paid out so much because our swimming team
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Speaker 2: has done so well. Indeed, out of the one hundred
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Speaker 2: and three medals so far won by our Australian comm
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Speaker 2: Games team, seventy five of them they have been won
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Speaker 2: in the pool. As Olympic legend Dorn Fraser said to
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Speaker 2: the media today, I wish my dear friend Gina had
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Speaker 2: been around when I was swimming, And you know, I
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Speaker 2: want to laugh about this incentive scheme. It's that missus
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Speaker 2: Reinhart's not pouring money into the head office. She's not
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Speaker 2: funding the sports bureaucrats. Every dollar she pays goes directly
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Speaker 2: into the bank account of our athletes. It's money they
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Speaker 2: can use to pay the rent, to fill up their
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Speaker 2: car with petrol to get to training. It's real money
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Speaker 2: that's helping them to be the best in the world,
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Speaker 2: and for that well, our national broadcast. I think she's
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Speaker 2: fair game. Now. The media world has changed dramatically from
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Speaker 2: what it was when the ABC was first created in
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Speaker 2: nineteen thirty two. The ABC is no longer the fair
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Speaker 2: and balanced broadcaster it was created. People have got a
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Speaker 2: whole lot of options now, a lot more than they
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Speaker 2: had a century ago. So why then a taxpayer spending
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Speaker 2: one billion dollar a year to promote this rubbish. I
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Speaker 2: think it's time now for the ABC to move to
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Speaker 2: a subscription model. People want it, they can pay for it,
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Speaker 2: but no taxpayer should be funding any network that openly
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Speaker 2: abuses another Australian and then refuses to admit when they've
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Speaker 2: got it so wrong. Lots to talk about tonight, but
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Speaker 2: we'll get the headlines first from Canbra political reporter Reven Spargo.
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Speaker 1: Good Evening, the Safety Commissioner is taking legal action against
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Speaker 1: messaging platform Telegram. Julie Inman Grant alleges it has failed
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Speaker 1: to remove extremist material from its service. She claims the
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Speaker 1: content included Islamic state executions and beheading videos.
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Speaker 9: It is more important than ever that digital platforms meet
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Speaker 9: their obligations to protect the Australian community.
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Speaker 1: The Commissioner says she could apply to have Telegram locked.
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Speaker 1: The Opposition is calling on One Nation to back its
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Speaker 1: bill to prevent terrorists from returning to Australia. Angus Taylor's
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Speaker 1: message is in response to Pauline Hanson's own attempt to
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Speaker 1: strengthen laws. She's seeking support for legislation that would allow
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Speaker 1: the government to cancel the passports of Australians charged with
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Speaker 1: or convicted of terrorism offenses.
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Speaker 4: I've asked them to support that legislation as they're ready
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Speaker 4: to go. That is how we will prevent Terrists from
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Speaker 4: coming back to this country.
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Speaker 1: The government maintains it's not helping Australians with Islamic state links,
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Speaker 1: but says it cannot deny citizens of passport under the constitution.
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Speaker 1: The Prime Minister is responding to questions over the future
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Speaker 1: of the suburban rail loop in Victoria. The federal government
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Speaker 1: is promising billions of dollars for the project.
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Speaker 5: When it comes to infrastructure, of course, the former government
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Speaker 5: reduced spending on Victorian infrastructure to around about eight percent.
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Speaker 1: Anthony Alberezi says he will work constructively with the state's
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Speaker 1: new premier.
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Speaker 2: Right, let's go to the big news today that was
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Speaker 2: rocking federal politics. Labor MP and remember for the territory
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Speaker 2: seat of Solomon Luke Gosling charged with the alleged assaults
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Speaker 2: the Administrator of Northern Territory. So that's the Crown's representative
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Speaker 2: in the nt our reporter At Cunningham broke the story
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Speaker 2: this morning. He joins me, Now, as I said, big news,
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Speaker 2: it's gone national today. A federal MP up your way
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Speaker 2: charged with assault. What can you tell us this evening?
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Speaker 1: Well, look.
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Speaker 3: Gosling has issued a statement late this afternoon, Peter, I
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Speaker 3: didn't say a lot in that statement, to be honest.
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Speaker 3: He certainly didn't address the issue of whether he would
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Speaker 3: be standing down from those special envoy roles that he
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Speaker 3: holds for Defense and for Northern Australia. He did say
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Speaker 3: that it had been a big day and that is
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Speaker 3: certainly the case. Police arrived at Luke Gosling's home in
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Speaker 3: Darwin this morning where they arrest him and they took
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Speaker 3: him to the Palmestan Police station. He was questioned there
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Speaker 3: for about three hours in relation to these allegations that
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Speaker 3: have been made by the Northern Territories Administrator David Connolly.
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Speaker 3: Now he has alleged that at a tie festival in
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Speaker 3: Darwin on July eighteenth, so almost two weeks ago now,
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Speaker 3: he was assaulted by Luke Gosling. Police interviewed David Connolly
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Speaker 3: last week for about three hours as well. They took
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Speaker 3: detailed statements from the administrator. This is a serious charge, Peter,
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Speaker 3: because of the person that he is involved, as you say,
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Speaker 3: he is the Crown's representative here in the Northern Territory.
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Speaker 3: Does carry a maximum jail sentence if convicted of fourteen
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Speaker 3: years in prison. Now, Luke Gosling, I put it to
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Speaker 3: him directly when I first broake this story last week,
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Speaker 3: those allegations, his denial, and the denial today from his
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Speaker 3: lawyer Martiost.
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Speaker 2: Hey, Luke, you're running with.
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Speaker 3: The administrator on the weekend we gave you didn't want
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Speaker 3: you didn't have a running with him.
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Speaker 10: It's particularly concerning that in a matter of this type
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Speaker 10: police resorted to the power of arrest, where it could
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Speaker 10: easily have been dealt with or noticed to a peer
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Speaker 10: or a summons. It's a concern that that might have
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Speaker 10: some political basis behind it. The charge is fully and
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Speaker 10: completely contested, but we're unable to comment any further other
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Speaker 10: than to say we are assisting police with their investigations
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Speaker 10: and will cooperate fully.
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Speaker 2: Matt, just quickly, do we know anything about the nature
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Speaker 2: of the assault that's alleged to have occurred.
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Speaker 3: Look, my understanding, Peter, is that what David Connolly is
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Speaker 3: alleging is that Luke Gosling brushed past him at that
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Speaker 3: tie festival and ran into him in some way. Now,
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Speaker 3: he's obviously made a complaint to the police about that,
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Speaker 3: and Luke Gosling has categorically denied any wrongdoing. In fact,
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Speaker 3: he said that the allegations level against him. This was
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Speaker 3: in a statement put out last week. He said that
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Speaker 3: those allegations were ridiculous. So it has now been listed
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Speaker 3: for a mention in the Darwin Local Court on the
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Speaker 3: first of September. I think we're going to have to
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Speaker 3: wait for that court process to take its place before
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Speaker 3: we get a better understanding of exactly what has happened
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Speaker 3: at that festival when these allegations of assault are alleged
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Speaker 3: to have occurred.
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Speaker 2: Well, Olivia there, thank you, Matt. I know you'll stay
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Speaker 2: across it for us. Let's go down to the other
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Speaker 2: issues we've got here. We've got senior ministers in Victoria
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Speaker 2: fleeing the sinking ship that is Victorian labor. News today
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Speaker 2: that both Harriet Shing and Lily Dan Brosigo she's the
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Speaker 2: Energy Minister. I'm not sorry to see her go, and
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Speaker 2: ouncing that they won't contest the election in November. Gentlemen, now,
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Speaker 2: Mike panell Use twenty four contributor Carolie kats and Barnas
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Speaker 2: and Deputy director at the IPA, Dan Wild, Well, Carole,
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Speaker 2: you're a Victorian. I know you follow this closely. Dan,
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Speaker 2: you too, you were here during the Andrews years. You've
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Speaker 2: managed to escape. But I'll get a question into both
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Speaker 2: of you. I'll start, though, please Dan, with you on
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Speaker 2: the Royal Commission announced, of course this week by the
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Speaker 2: new premiere. You know, I fear it'll end up a
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Speaker 2: face like that hotel quarantine inquiry. And this is the
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Speaker 2: sort of so called answers we'll get. Have a listen.
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Speaker 10: I can't specifically recall.
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Speaker 2: I can't recall. I presume I did.
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Speaker 11: I don't recall the conversation, and I have.
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Speaker 8: Some memory, but not for memory.
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Speaker 1: I don't recall specifically, not to my recollection.
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Speaker 12: I have no recollection of that.
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Speaker 1: I can't specifically recall.
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Speaker 2: Dan, you know how the game works. They're calling it
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Speaker 2: now because they want to put a labor friendly in
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Speaker 2: the chair and Labor wants to write the terms of reference.
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Speaker 13: Well, that's right, it's say political conjob designed to help
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Speaker 13: Ban Carroll make good on his worth. That he's not
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Speaker 13: Daniel Andrews and he's not just Cinter Allen. Well, of
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Speaker 13: course he's not either of those two individuals. But he
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Speaker 13: was a very senior member of those governments which were
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Speaker 13: very bad governments, and I wonder whether he would have
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Speaker 13: to front such a royal commission. That's unclear, But you're right,
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Speaker 13: it's all about politics, it's not about getting to the
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Speaker 13: bottom of it. And we've already seen this in action
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Speaker 13: with the Anti Semitism Ryal Commission, which is also unfortunately
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Speaker 13: a political conjob, where we're not going to get the
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Speaker 13: truth of the causes of what happened there, nor are
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Speaker 13: we going to get any indication of how to improve it.
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Speaker 13: In fact, Labor is going to use that Anti Semitism
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Speaker 13: Ryal Commission to featherbed anti hate speech laws. I mean,
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Speaker 13: Tony Burke is already paving the way to do that.
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Speaker 13: So as you know, Labor does this better than anyone else.
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Speaker 13: They put their people in, they write the terms of reference,
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Speaker 13: they're probably going to get a heads up about what
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Speaker 13: the questions will be. So sadly, you know, Victorians are
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Speaker 13: not going to be any clearer on just the extent
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Speaker 13: of the corruption under a Ben Carroll premiership.
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Speaker 2: All right, almost forty billion dollars and some of this
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Speaker 2: money coming from other states out of the national budget,
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Speaker 2: of course, has been spent on this suburban rail loop
22:15
Speaker 2: the railway line. I say that goes to nowhere that
22:18
Speaker 2: no one wants. It's supposed to cost all up something
22:21
Speaker 2: like two hundred billion dollars. When asked the Prime Minister,
22:26
Speaker 2: he dodged a question on this have a listen.
22:29
Speaker 8: Would you be glad to see it go?
22:34
Speaker 5: I spoke with Ben Carrol yessay, and I welcome his
22:39
Speaker 5: election as Premier. I look forward to working with him
22:42
Speaker 5: for work constructive with the Victorian government to make sure
22:47
Speaker 5: that the interests of Victorians are well.
22:49
Speaker 2: He's dancing around that one carely, and so too is
22:52
Speaker 2: the new Premier. But it's got to go, of course,
22:57
Speaker 2: it has to go.
22:58
Speaker 8: I mean, he says he'll work construc deductively in the
23:00
Speaker 8: interests of all Victorians. Victorians, the debt is scheduled to be,
23:04
Speaker 8: as you said, two hundred billion dollars by the end
23:06
Speaker 8: of the decade. To put it into context, our interest
23:10
Speaker 8: repayments are twenty four million dollars a day as they stand.
23:13
Speaker 8: That works out to one million dollars an hour.
23:16
Speaker 2: That's just on the.
23:17
Speaker 8: Interest to be repaid twenty four million a day, one
23:21
Speaker 8: million dollars an hour.
23:22
Speaker 2: It is absolutely ridiculous.
23:24
Speaker 8: The money is not there. This was a plan conjured
23:27
Speaker 8: up by Dan Andrews back in twenty eighteen ahead of
23:30
Speaker 8: a state election, before COVID, before the goalposts have completely changed.
23:35
Speaker 8: Victoria is a broken state. We need help with the crime,
23:39
Speaker 8: the health, nurses, doctors, teachers, and it is really insulting
23:44
Speaker 8: to say we'll work with the interests of all Victorians.
23:47
Speaker 8: It is not in the interests of any Victorian to
23:50
Speaker 8: pursue this seventeen kilometers stretch of suburban rail loop when
23:55
Speaker 8: we've got businesses smashed, the highest taxes in the state,
23:58
Speaker 8: and crime recon called highs. It's absolutely ridiculous.
24:03
Speaker 2: He also danced around the Dan Andrews statue. This is
24:07
Speaker 2: the new premier. But Jess Wilson, the opposition leader, Well,
24:09
Speaker 2: she couldn't have been clearer. Have a listen.
24:18
Speaker 6: I have nothing to say on that, and that is
24:19
Speaker 6: not a priority of mine.
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Speaker 1: He's not a priority of mine.
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Speaker 9: Ben Carroll was very tricky today, even refusing to acknowledge it.
24:27
Speaker 9: But absolutely, if we come to government, we will not
24:30
Speaker 9: allow that statue to proceed.
24:33
Speaker 2: You know the Victorian game. Well, Dan, now that Labour's
24:36
Speaker 2: changed the premier, she's got to get sixteen seats. The
24:40
Speaker 2: Coalition have got a bit of a mountain to climb.
24:42
Speaker 2: They're absolutely in front. Let's be clear. They are in front,
24:46
Speaker 2: but it's a big ask. Can they do it? Can
24:48
Speaker 2: they survive the change of premier?
24:52
Speaker 1: I think they probably will.
24:53
Speaker 13: I mean, Labor had no choice but to change change
24:56
Speaker 13: its leader and change premiere. Now, if you look what
24:58
Speaker 13: happened in Queensland when Stephn Miles replaced Palichet, you'd have
25:03
Speaker 13: to say that kind of worked in the sense that
25:04
Speaker 13: they saved a bunch of seats. I think they would
25:06
Speaker 13: have lost a lot more had they not made the change.
25:08
Speaker 13: And arguably Labor ran a better campaign in the campaign
25:11
Speaker 13: period than the LMP, So Stephn Miles did inject a
25:14
Speaker 13: lot of energy. I just don't see it with Ben Carroll.
25:17
Speaker 13: I mean, to me, people say he's a good guy
25:19
Speaker 13: and you know, he's not like the others. Maybe that's true,
25:22
Speaker 13: but I don't see it. He's implicated in all of
25:24
Speaker 13: the terrible decisions that were made, including COVID. I mean,
25:27
Speaker 13: let's not forget all of the COVID decisions that he
25:29
Speaker 13: was a part of. Plus he just comes across as
25:32
Speaker 13: very wooden, doesn't he very uninspiring. You know, that's not
25:35
Speaker 13: a priority of mine, or you know, I don't know.
25:37
Speaker 13: I don't see it happening. Labor had no choice, but yeah,
25:41
Speaker 13: he will save a few seats, but I don't think
25:43
Speaker 13: you'd do much more than that.
25:46
Speaker 2: Let's go to his story about the Smart Energy Counsel.
25:48
Speaker 2: And you remember when we dug into that bogus costing
25:52
Speaker 2: of the Liberal Party's nuclear policy the last election. It
25:56
Speaker 2: all ended back at this charity called Smart Energy Council. Well,
26:01
Speaker 2: we learned today that they donate to the Labor Party.
26:05
Speaker 2: Yes they do, they've got charitable status, but they're also
26:09
Speaker 2: getting a lot of government taxpayer money, nearly half a
26:13
Speaker 2: million dollars to run out a whole lot of green
26:17
Speaker 2: energy pr They've put money into a solar study in
26:21
Speaker 2: Bangladesh and a Chinese clean energy summit. Well, given we've
26:27
Speaker 2: got pensioners in this country who can't pay their power bills,
26:31
Speaker 2: what the heck's going on here? Curly it looks crooked
26:33
Speaker 2: to me. Yeah, well it sure does.
26:37
Speaker 8: I mean, there are other groups that we're wanting to
26:40
Speaker 8: be awarded tenders, but why on earth are they doing
26:42
Speaker 8: some kind of a solar energy study in Bangladesh and
26:46
Speaker 8: one in China when we've got energy crisis here and
26:50
Speaker 8: we need to know how to do our affordable energy. Well,
26:52
Speaker 8: we do know how to do our affordable energy here
26:54
Speaker 8: because we need to start drilling for oil and having
26:57
Speaker 8: gas exploration again. But it just shows they've been awarded
27:01
Speaker 8: seven contracts by the Labor government and so you know,
27:04
Speaker 8: it's a bit of you scratch my back and I'll
27:06
Speaker 8: scratch yours. And it just seems to me to be
27:08
Speaker 8: money for activists. This is not solving any problems for Australians.
27:13
Speaker 8: And you know, as I said, in Bangladesh and also
27:16
Speaker 8: in China, they don't need these studies.
27:18
Speaker 2: It's silly and a waste of money. I'll leave it there.
27:23
Speaker 2: Thank you Caroline, thank you Dan. After the break, the
27:26
Speaker 2: policy push from One Nation and the Coalition to stop
27:29
Speaker 2: those convicted is as fighters returning to Australia and why
27:33
Speaker 2: is it Labor though now right now using the powers
27:36
Speaker 2: it has to keep us safe. Liberal Shadow Attorney General
27:40
Speaker 2: Michalia Cash after the break, Now to the policy push
27:48
Speaker 2: to protect Australians from terror, with One Nation devising a
27:51
Speaker 2: new plan to ban Islamic State linked fighters and terrorist sympathizers.
27:56
Speaker 2: Paul In Hansen's also flag strengthened bow laws for terror
27:59
Speaker 2: offenses and introducing tougher passport blocking powers. We're here to
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Speaker 2: discuss this and more. Shadow Attorney General Backadia Cash. Welcome, Senator,
28:09
Speaker 2: But before we get to all the terror policies we
28:12
Speaker 2: want to discuss, can I get a quick comment from
28:14
Speaker 2: you about the arrest of your colleague, labor colleague, federal colleague,
28:20
Speaker 2: Luke Gosling, charged with two counts of assault. At the moment,
28:24
Speaker 2: of course, the Prime Minister is not requiring that his
28:27
Speaker 2: stand down. Should he.
28:31
Speaker 14: The Prime Minister should stand him aside, and this has
28:35
Speaker 14: turned into a test peter of leadership for Anthony Albanezi.
28:39
Speaker 14: This is not about preempting a court process. It is
28:43
Speaker 14: about the Prime Minister's judgment. These, as you said, are
28:46
Speaker 14: very serious charges. They carry a maximum penalty of fourteen
28:51
Speaker 14: years imprisonment. So the Prime Minister needs to be very
28:54
Speaker 14: clear with the Australian people does he believe that mister Gosling,
29:00
Speaker 14: as charged, should still be his Special Envoy for Defense
29:04
Speaker 14: Veterans in Northern Australia. Mister ALBINIZI also needs to front
29:08
Speaker 14: the Australian people and say when did he first become
29:11
Speaker 14: aware of these charges? What he's actually asked of mister Gosling.
29:16
Speaker 14: And again this is a test for his judgment and
29:20
Speaker 14: his leadership. These are serious chargers and Australians deserve an explanation.
29:26
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll get into isis bands now, we'll also talk
29:29
Speaker 2: about legislation both that I know the coalition's got on
29:32
Speaker 2: the table that Pauling Hanson today has also flagged her
29:36
Speaker 2: own legislation. But let's start at the beginning, because the
29:39
Speaker 2: Prime Minister says, basically, we don't want these people back,
29:42
Speaker 2: but they've got constitutional rights. Basically my hands are tied
29:45
Speaker 2: and we've seen with the women and the children they
29:48
Speaker 2: land back in Australia. David Craig, he's an AFP former
29:52
Speaker 2: AFP detective, he's been on the program. He's made it
29:55
Speaker 2: very clear. The government's got a whole suite of measures now,
29:59
Speaker 2: laws that could ens exclusion orders that could put in place. Obviously,
30:03
Speaker 2: refusal of passports is a power they already have, so
30:08
Speaker 2: why aren't they using them?
30:11
Speaker 14: Because this is a prime minister who has turned his
30:14
Speaker 14: back on the Australian people and Australian values. Let us
30:18
Speaker 14: not forget who these people are, Australians who made a
30:21
Speaker 14: conscious decision to turn their back on Australia, leave our
30:25
Speaker 14: country and join a death cult. I mean, the Coalition's
30:28
Speaker 14: always been clear. We are the ones that have always
30:32
Speaker 14: said the fundamental responsibility of a government is the security
30:36
Speaker 14: of its nation. We put in place the temporary exclusion
30:40
Speaker 14: orders so that you could keep these foreign fighters out.
30:44
Speaker 14: This is a government that has refused Peter to use
30:48
Speaker 14: these temporary exclusion orders. We've said to you them, if
30:52
Speaker 14: you need to beef them up, let us know, we
30:54
Speaker 14: will work with you. We have also brought forward legislation
30:58
Speaker 14: to make it a criminal offense to assist in the
31:02
Speaker 14: return of an ISIS fighter or an ISIS bride. The
31:06
Speaker 14: government voted against that legislation. So this is a government
31:11
Speaker 14: that will make every excuse for returning terrorists while putting
31:16
Speaker 14: the Australian people's security at risk. And quite frankly, when
31:20
Speaker 14: it comes to this bill, I wouldn't believe anything that
31:24
Speaker 14: this government says.
31:26
Speaker 2: So Mike Kelly, former Labor Defense Minister, he says that
31:31
Speaker 2: the party's in thrall to Islamist extremists is a party
31:36
Speaker 2: takeover by them inside labor. Now is that what this
31:40
Speaker 2: is about? Is that what's turning the Prime Minister and
31:44
Speaker 2: Tony Burke's head?
31:45
Speaker 15: Here?
31:45
Speaker 2: Is it about Muslim votes in Sydney and Melbourne.
31:49
Speaker 14: Well, look at who one of the chief instigators of
31:53
Speaker 14: the return of the Isis Brides was, and that was,
31:56
Speaker 14: of course the man who heads up Friends of Tony Burke,
32:01
Speaker 14: a member himself of the Muslim community. So let's be
32:06
Speaker 14: honest here. This is a numbers game and nothing more.
32:10
Speaker 14: For Anthony Albanisi and for Tony Burke. I mean what
32:13
Speaker 14: Prime Minister and what Minister for Home Affairs in their
32:17
Speaker 14: right mind would not do everything that they possibly could
32:23
Speaker 14: to keep these people out. The fact that they have
32:26
Speaker 14: not done that, the fact that they have made every
32:28
Speaker 14: excuse in the world for the return of the Isis
32:32
Speaker 14: Brides actually shows you they're not dinkome about national security.
32:37
Speaker 14: They will not stand up for Australian values. Quite the opposite,
32:42
Speaker 14: they will do everything, quite frankly, to destroy them.
32:47
Speaker 2: Instead of estimates. Recently you uncovered the fact that it
32:50
Speaker 2: was what twenty four hours for the Attorney General signed
32:53
Speaker 2: off the paperwork to charge to arrest in charge ben
32:57
Speaker 2: Robert Smith, I relent to war crimes, but it was
33:01
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks, three weeks. I think it was
33:03
Speaker 2: in relation to some of the women in the latest
33:05
Speaker 2: cohort linked to ice as charged with terrorism and slavery offenses.
33:11
Speaker 2: What's telling last week when we found out about this bloke,
33:14
Speaker 2: doctor g Hard in prison in Iraq, was that the
33:17
Speaker 2: government was briefed about this first four years ago. They've
33:20
Speaker 2: kept this a secret. Now there's also the government under
33:25
Speaker 2: pressure too because they've been asked questions are they providing
33:28
Speaker 2: these women with taxpayer funded housing? And we're not getting
33:32
Speaker 2: a straight answer. Can you understand why people are so
33:35
Speaker 2: angry again?
33:38
Speaker 14: This is a government that by their very actions have
33:41
Speaker 14: shown the Australian people that they will not stand up
33:45
Speaker 14: for those good old Australian values. They will put the
33:49
Speaker 14: rights of terrorists before the security of the Australian people.
33:55
Speaker 14: It no longer no longer matters, Peter what comes out
33:59
Speaker 14: of Anthony alber ease his mouth. He can say what
34:01
Speaker 14: he likes because his actions now speak louder than his words.
34:06
Speaker 14: He doesn't believe in Australian values. He will bring people
34:10
Speaker 14: back to Australia even when he says, my government's done nothing.
34:14
Speaker 2: How do they get a passport?
34:15
Speaker 14: Quite frankly, that's government assisting the process.
34:19
Speaker 2: And then he.
34:20
Speaker 14: Justifies to the Australian people why he has allowed them
34:23
Speaker 14: to return when at law there are actually tools that
34:28
Speaker 14: he could use to keep them out. So again, this
34:31
Speaker 14: is a prime minister. Don't listen to what he says.
34:35
Speaker 14: This is a prime minister that will say anything now
34:38
Speaker 14: to calm the Australian people. Look at his actions because
34:42
Speaker 14: they speak louder than his words.
34:46
Speaker 2: Just quickly, I know you're proud West Australian. This attack
34:49
Speaker 2: on the ABC against gena rightheart. The ABC won't apologize.
34:55
Speaker 2: The minister dances around the issue, even though she's one
34:58
Speaker 2: of the first to get out there and defend women
35:00
Speaker 2: on the left. Given all she does for Australia, she's
35:04
Speaker 2: an enormous philanthropist. As you know, Why doesj to Ryan
35:07
Speaker 2: Hart have to copy this.
35:10
Speaker 14: Or because she's from the right, nothing more and nothing less.
35:14
Speaker 14: She is not a preferred woman in Australia. So let's
35:18
Speaker 14: be very clear here. This is an absolute disgrace that
35:22
Speaker 14: the publicly funded broadcaster even allowed.
35:25
Speaker 2: This to go to air.
35:28
Speaker 14: Peter imagine this scenario. News twenty four publishes something the
35:33
Speaker 14: same content but with a left wing woman. Can you
35:37
Speaker 14: honestly imagine the hysteria that would be coming from the left.
35:41
Speaker 14: Quite frankly, Hugh Marks, you've disappointed all Australians. You need
35:47
Speaker 14: to show a little bit of humility. But in relation
35:50
Speaker 14: to Minister Wells seriously again speaks, says, she condemns, but
35:56
Speaker 14: then fails to take any action. You're either the Minister
35:59
Speaker 14: for Communications or you're a bystander. She's acting like she's
36:04
Speaker 14: a bystander when she's actually the minister.
36:07
Speaker 2: I'll over there, Senator Cash, thank you, good to be
36:10
Speaker 2: with you. There you go, after the break the court
36:15
Speaker 2: judgment against an activist who argues her posts are part
36:18
Speaker 2: of political advocacy when it comes to the protection of
36:21
Speaker 2: women and girls and spaces. I'll speak to her next.
36:30
Speaker 2: Welcome back. Let's gone out of the court ruling that's
36:32
Speaker 2: gone against activists Curelely Smith, who lost her appeal against
36:36
Speaker 2: defining that she'd unlawfully villified to transgender footballers. Now, the
36:41
Speaker 2: posts included photographs of one transgender player. This is one,
36:45
Speaker 2: of course, a biological man who was playing in a
36:49
Speaker 2: woman's football team. Curly Smith, who heads the organization Binary Australia,
36:55
Speaker 2: has argued that her posts were part of her political
36:57
Speaker 2: advocacy and part of public when it comes to the
37:01
Speaker 2: protection of women's spaces. Please to say, Curly joins me. Now, well, Curely,
37:08
Speaker 2: it's a tough ruling. What's your initial response to the decision?
37:13
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me, Peter.
37:14
Speaker 12: Look, of course disappointment, but I also feel a great
37:18
Speaker 12: deal of peace and resolve because this is a conversation
37:22
Speaker 12: that needs to be had. This is a debate that
37:24
Speaker 12: Australia needs to have. And I'm right, no human can
37:27
Speaker 12: change sex. And I'm quite confident in my position.
37:30
Speaker 2: Many would argue, and I do too, that this was
37:34
Speaker 2: a statement of scientific fact of biology. So what does
37:37
Speaker 2: this say about your right, our right the free speech
37:41
Speaker 2: in this country.
37:42
Speaker 12: Well, we don't have free speech in this country and
37:45
Speaker 12: it even goes beyond free speech to truth speech.
37:48
Speaker 2: Men cannot be women and women.
37:50
Speaker 12: Do deserve sex based services sports, we deserve our sex
37:55
Speaker 12: based rights. There are certain instances in society where on
38:00
Speaker 12: change rooms, on the sporting field and different environments where
38:04
Speaker 12: women really do need those sex protections. And basically what
38:08
Speaker 12: my case has shown what other cases have shown in Australia,
38:11
Speaker 12: like sal Grover, is that women have been effectively erased
38:15
Speaker 12: from law. We don't have those protections yet men who
38:18
Speaker 12: want to appropriate womanhood or want to identify as women
38:22
Speaker 12: have far more protections than we do. And I think
38:25
Speaker 12: that that's outrageous. And as I said, it is a
38:28
Speaker 12: debate that we need to have. And if they're so
38:30
Speaker 12: confident that they're men, I sorry that they're women. Let's
38:34
Speaker 12: have the debate prove it.
38:36
Speaker 2: So what do you say to the critics who argue
38:39
Speaker 2: that you were targeting an individual here unnecessarily, what's your
38:44
Speaker 2: response to that.
38:45
Speaker 12: I did not target any individuals. I took information that
38:48
Speaker 12: was in the public domain, posted by the sporting organizations themselves.
38:54
Speaker 12: I took that publicly available information and asked what I
38:57
Speaker 12: think are very reasonable questions that not just myself, but
39:00
Speaker 12: many other astrings are asking. And that is why are
39:03
Speaker 12: men in women's sport. They want to see the examples,
39:06
Speaker 12: They want the evidence that this is actually happening. The
39:08
Speaker 12: evidence was in the public domain and I simply re
39:12
Speaker 12: shared it. And you know, we've all seen the images overseas.
39:16
Speaker 12: You know of Leah Thomas or Iman khalif the males
39:19
Speaker 12: in women's sport, and as you know, an image is
39:22
Speaker 12: worth a thousand words, and what's happened here in Australia
39:26
Speaker 12: is effectively we've been told you cannot use examples, you
39:28
Speaker 12: cannot provide the evidence, you cannot speak about individual cases.
39:33
Speaker 12: And there's also been a strong chilling effect on those
39:36
Speaker 12: girls who do have to play against these male players
39:39
Speaker 12: that they can't call them out, they can't oppose it,
39:42
Speaker 12: and if they do, they will suffer the same fate
39:44
Speaker 12: that I have.
39:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, it's fascinating to me because if you look
39:48
Speaker 2: at how this has played out over the last few
39:50
Speaker 2: years around the world. Well, the debates shifted very quickly.
39:54
Speaker 2: You've got the Olympic Association, You've got swimming organizations everywhere
39:59
Speaker 2: global now holding fast that women's biology is the determinant
40:04
Speaker 2: for participation in women's sport. So the backflips have happened
40:08
Speaker 2: right across the board. Look at Sophie Carningham, Look at
40:11
Speaker 2: what's happening in the UK. They're about sex based rights
40:15
Speaker 2: now protected in law. Why do you think Australia is
40:18
Speaker 2: such a laggart?
40:21
Speaker 14: Oh?
40:21
Speaker 12: Look, we can only speculate, but it seems that you know,
40:24
Speaker 12: in the highest ranks there's such a capture, and there's
40:28
Speaker 12: been a really clever move to use people like me
40:32
Speaker 12: as an example to then create that chilling effect for
40:35
Speaker 12: others not to speak out, because it is very obvious.
40:39
Speaker 12: We've had male and female divisions in sport for a reason,
40:42
Speaker 12: because there are differences that need to be protected. And
40:47
Speaker 12: for whatever reason, the activists have been very successful in
40:50
Speaker 12: the policy guidelines and also in the legal area to
40:54
Speaker 12: make sure that this debate cannot be had, that examples
40:57
Speaker 12: cannot be used, and that women we must be silenced
41:01
Speaker 12: and we must suffer the consequences.
41:04
Speaker 2: Look, I'm conscious that these legal actions cost many hundreds
41:07
Speaker 2: of thousands of dollars, and so too are my viewers.
41:10
Speaker 2: They're alive to that. We're too now for you.
41:13
Speaker 12: Kily consulting with my legal team this week, I believe
41:17
Speaker 12: there are avenues of appeal. They of course will be expensive,
41:22
Speaker 12: but so is the ninety five thousand dollars damages payment.
41:25
Speaker 12: So I will continue as the spokeswoman of binary I
41:28
Speaker 12: will not change my mind that men can be women,
41:32
Speaker 12: and we will continue to raise money. We have fundraising
41:36
Speaker 12: for the legal action at binary dot org dot au
41:41
Speaker 12: forward slash donate.
41:43
Speaker 2: It's very expensive.
41:44
Speaker 12: To continue this legal action, to pay the damages, to
41:48
Speaker 12: raise the awareness, but it is it is absolutely essential
41:51
Speaker 12: because this isn't just about me, Peter. This is about
41:53
Speaker 12: all women and girls in Australia. It's about all people
41:56
Speaker 12: in Australia. And if we don't have the right and
41:58
Speaker 12: the ability to speak free and truthfully about these situations,
42:03
Speaker 12: it doesn't fade well for other situations either.
42:08
Speaker 2: Well powerfully said, I know this has been a huge
42:11
Speaker 2: personal toll on you, but you've got a smile on
42:14
Speaker 2: your face, haven't you. You're determined to fight and I,
42:17
Speaker 2: for one will back you all the way. Kirilee, thank you,
42:21
Speaker 2: thank you so much for having me Peter. She's courageous,
42:25
Speaker 2: isn't she. Now? Just before the break, the annual Gama
42:28
Speaker 2: Festival kicks off tomorrow in remote arnam Land. It was
42:32
Speaker 2: just last year that the PM of course promised he'd
42:34
Speaker 2: always attend the festival. Only that's now another broken promise.
42:38
Speaker 2: He won't be there this year. However, there's a lot
42:40
Speaker 2: of wonderful work being done up in remote communities around
42:44
Speaker 2: arnam Land, and as I mentioned to you. Last week
42:46
Speaker 2: Tourney Abbitt was heading up there to do more than
42:48
Speaker 2: just talk at a festival. Over the last few days
42:51
Speaker 2: he's been camping, and I mean literally, he's in a tent,
42:54
Speaker 2: he tells me, out in a small remote community in
42:56
Speaker 2: East Darnham, about thirteen hours out of Darh and he's
43:00
Speaker 2: working with a whole of local Aboriginal people to improve
43:04
Speaker 2: their water infrastructure. This is so that they can build
43:07
Speaker 2: an economic base, they can have tourism and visitors. And
43:10
Speaker 2: while he's been up there, he's been joined by the
43:12
Speaker 2: former Labor senator Nova Paris. This is her country, which shows,
43:17
Speaker 2: doesn't it, Labor and Liberal the opposites, they can still
43:19
Speaker 2: work together. I was hoping to do a cross with
43:21
Speaker 2: Tony and Nova, but the signal out there is pretty patchy,
43:25
Speaker 2: so they've recorded you this little message about the work
43:27
Speaker 2: they're doing in the community. On the ground.
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Speaker 15: Well, apart from just getting wet, we've just made a
43:37
Speaker 15: wonderful outdoor shower.
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Speaker 2: Good on you, Jimmy, really good. Nov wouldn't have to
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Speaker 2: but for you.
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Speaker 15: Yeah, and thank you for your time. And you've given
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Speaker 15: up as well. You're a very busy man, but to
43:51
Speaker 15: come and spend you know, six days out here and
43:53
Speaker 15: this is just day two. And what you've been able
43:55
Speaker 15: to achieve in two days, how many years has that
43:58
Speaker 15: been in your heart? Need to do trying?
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Speaker 3: I just want to say thank you, because would I
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Speaker 3: say working here, I guess I can't believe, Like it.
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Speaker 12: Just makes me love you great man that you're being
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Speaker 12: here with that.
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Speaker 3: No, I'm doing and working with me and I'm not
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Speaker 3: Norway when you guess makes me up.
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Speaker 5: That's mndisfied family.
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Speaker 15: Yeah, and we should also thank Israel for their big
44:32
Speaker 15: part in all of this is if we wouldn't have
44:34
Speaker 15: been able to do it without my foundation Israel. And
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Speaker 15: you know, with you wanting this, we've been able to
44:40
Speaker 15: all join together. And you are a machine. Tiny over that,
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Speaker 15: you are an absolute machine what you've been able to
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Speaker 15: achieve in two days.
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Speaker 2: And yeah, I'm sure you can just say thank.
44:52
Speaker 3: You, thank you.
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Speaker 13: Everyone has a team coming in and doing.
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Speaker 9: It's just.
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Speaker 3: I call you. You are our angels.
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Speaker 15: Thank you.
45:07
Speaker 2: There you go. We need a bit of good news
45:08
Speaker 2: that weinded and you saw some of those beach shots.
45:10
Speaker 2: It looks like terrific tourism country. I'd watched the Crocs
45:14
Speaker 2: right after the break the heats on Anthony Fauci. Well,
45:17
Speaker 2: there were no answers today in those hearings. I'll show
45:19
Speaker 2: you all of that and what's happening in Europe. We've
45:21
Speaker 2: seen a real increase in terror attacks, Islamist terror attacks.
45:25
Speaker 2: So who's pulling the strings? After the break? Welcome back
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Speaker 2: Coasher Guard and Michael Danby here for the International Panel.
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Speaker 2: But before I bring them in, I want to go
45:37
Speaker 2: first to that extraordinary grilling of Anthony Fauci at the
45:40
Speaker 2: COVID nineteen hearings Capitol Hill in Washington. Of course, he
45:44
Speaker 2: was the government scientist who became the face of the
45:47
Speaker 2: US response, actually the global response to COVID. He should
45:51
Speaker 2: have been giving us straight answers about where the virus
45:55
Speaker 2: emanated from. We know it was China. Of my view,
45:59
Speaker 2: that was out of his life, a lab he had
46:01
Speaker 2: long funded, But that wasn't the sort of answers he
46:04
Speaker 2: was giving the Congress.
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Speaker 1: Have a listen to this institutional color tie you're wearing.
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Speaker 16: On the Advisive Council. I respectfully declined to answer, based
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Speaker 16: upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.
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Speaker 16: What color is a carporate in front of you on
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Speaker 16: the Advisive Council. I respectfully declined to answer, based upon
46:23
Speaker 16: my rights under the Fifth Amendment.
46:26
Speaker 2: All right, coascha gata. We know that he got a pardon,
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Speaker 2: the peremptory pardon, from Biden, before it had even been
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Speaker 2: charged with anything. But clearly he expected he could be
46:36
Speaker 2: He's written this book. It's a big noting book. It's
46:38
Speaker 2: all about him. Given all the chaos, don't we deserve answers?
46:44
Speaker 9: We sure do deserve them. There is an interesting legal
46:46
Speaker 9: question with that part in because some legal analys are
46:49
Speaker 9: saying that actually the pardon means by definition, he cannot
46:52
Speaker 9: be criminally liable, and therefore he cannot invook the Fifth.
46:56
Speaker 9: The Fifth is meant to save you from incriminating yourself.
46:58
Speaker 9: So it continues to be pushed in the legal angle,
47:02
Speaker 9: and Ran Paul has been his arch nemesis. Good for him,
47:04
Speaker 9: he's not letting this go. There's a hearing next week
47:06
Speaker 9: to hold him in contempt of Congress, so they're going
47:08
Speaker 9: to keep trying to bring the heat on him legally.
47:11
Speaker 9: But in the court of public opinion, there've always been
47:13
Speaker 9: two camps. The ones who sort of lionized him as
47:16
Speaker 9: the saviors of everybody, in this pandemic, and then those
47:18
Speaker 9: who were skeptical at best. That second camp is only growing.
47:21
Speaker 9: The showing is only going to further that camp. Yes,
47:24
Speaker 9: he'll sell his book and he'll always have his fans,
47:26
Speaker 9: but he does not come across well. The diary releases
47:29
Speaker 9: don't make him look good. He seems to be obsessed
47:31
Speaker 9: with fame on top of the fact that he was
47:33
Speaker 9: the root cause of the global response, and he I
47:36
Speaker 9: think will go down in infamy for it.
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Speaker 2: It paralyzed the world for two years. You know, Victorians,
47:41
Speaker 2: I don't think they've got their mojo back absolutely around
47:44
Speaker 2: the world. Obviously there were deaths and everything. Michael, How
47:47
Speaker 2: is it when you have a global crisis on any
47:49
Speaker 2: other issue, we drill down, We want the facts, We
47:52
Speaker 2: want to be able to prevent it happening again. We've
47:55
Speaker 2: let China get off the hook, and we'll let this
47:57
Speaker 2: guy get off the hook.
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Speaker 11: Keaven's for Sky and for Shari in particular with her book.
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Speaker 11: The central core of this is this dreadful coronavirus. You
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Speaker 11: talk accurately about its terrible effects in Victoria was funded
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Speaker 11: by the United States. The Wuhan Institute of Virology was
48:19
Speaker 11: funded by a New Jersey based an Sillery branch of
48:25
Speaker 11: Fauci's office. That is disgraceful, and it's against the explicit
48:30
Speaker 11: directive of former liberal President Barack Obama, who said, I
48:36
Speaker 11: don't want the United States involved in any gain of
48:39
Speaker 11: function another word germ warfare research. And that's got the
48:45
Speaker 11: party and that's such wisdom. I mean, these things are
48:48
Speaker 11: so dangerous and in a second rate lab this is
48:53
Speaker 11: exactly what happened, and we're all paying the price for it.
48:56
Speaker 11: So Fauci is no hero. This has been established by
48:58
Speaker 11: the FBI, the CIA, and a lot of scientists who
49:01
Speaker 11: were formerly supporters of his.
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Speaker 2: I woult to play a grade from the president about
49:06
Speaker 2: Rhyan because he was pretty blunt today. We canna hit
49:11
Speaker 2: him very hard.
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Speaker 13: I mean I could actually say that because and that
49:14
Speaker 13: there's very little they can do about it.
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Speaker 5: They've already apologized, but you know, we're going to smack them.
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Speaker 2: A little bit. Where's his headache?
49:23
Speaker 9: Kosher sounds like he wants to keep smacking them a
49:27
Speaker 9: little bit, and he's not a fan of the regime.
49:29
Speaker 9: He's said that multiple times. The other pressure, of course,
49:32
Speaker 9: is how long does this continue? But for now it
49:33
Speaker 9: sounds like he's doubling down, of course, Prime Minister and yeah,
49:36
Speaker 9: who was there, and they're going to stay the course.
49:39
Speaker 9: The biggest cost to him will be if more American
49:41
Speaker 9: soldiers lose their lives. That's really going to and against
49:44
Speaker 9: the midterms. And of course Michael was staying around or
49:46
Speaker 9: certainly saw in France. We saw in Berlin there's a
49:48
Speaker 9: rise in islam As tax, which is exactly what the
49:51
Speaker 9: warlords in Iraq are calling.
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Speaker 11: For, and some of that's funded by them. They use
49:55
Speaker 11: crims like they did here, how they use their professional
49:58
Speaker 11: intelligence officers. They're mainly focused in Europe against dissidents and
50:02
Speaker 11: against the Jewish community. But this is an evil regime.
50:06
Speaker 11: And one of the things that Americans have to think
50:08
Speaker 11: about is you can't stop this Iranian regime. There was
50:12
Speaker 11: a three day cease fire, nothing was being initiated by
50:16
Speaker 11: the Americans, and they made a Pearl Harbor surprise attack
50:20
Speaker 11: on the American basis with ballistic missiles in Jordan, trying
50:24
Speaker 11: to kill as many Americans as possible. What does Trump
50:26
Speaker 11: do with that? You can't surrender.
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Speaker 2: Got to leave it there. I'm sorry about that, but
50:30
Speaker 2: it'll be on the table for next week. I'm sure
50:32
Speaker 2: poor all Iran, well, not poor all Iran, the people
50:35
Speaker 2: of Iran. We'll leave it there. The price Monday. Thanks
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Speaker 2: for great coming. What flags for you on Monday? Wait
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Speaker 2: for Monday. Here's Andrew