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UK Column News Podcast 11th October 2024 · UK Column Radio

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon. It's Friday, the eleventh of October twenty twenty four,
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Speaker 1: just after one o'clock. Welcome to the UK Collin News.
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Speaker 1: I'm your host Mike Robinson joining me today. We have
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Speaker 1: Mark Anderson from the United States and Debbie Evans from
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Speaker 1: Deepest Cornwall. Welcome to the program.
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Speaker 2: Both.
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Speaker 1: Now we're going to get started off with a story
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Speaker 1: from Israel, and this is the arrest of Jeremy Lifredo. Says,
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Speaker 1: Whyette coverage of it? They say American journalists disclosed secrets
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Speaker 1: during Iran attack. Police says Jeremy Rifredo faces is really
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Speaker 1: quote over reporting are Inian missiles striking several Israeli air basis.
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Speaker 1: US fears possible diplomatic incident following reporters' actions. Now, Jeremy
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Speaker 1: Lifredo is an independent journalist who often contributes to the
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Speaker 1: Gray Zone, and the report that he did was for
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Speaker 1: the Gray Zone. Let's just listen to thirty seconds of
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Speaker 1: or so.
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Speaker 3: I'm Jeremy Lfredo for the Gray Zone in Israel where
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Speaker 3: last night Iran fired over two hundred ballistic missiles and
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Speaker 3: retaliation for the assassinations of Lebanese and Iranian political and
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Speaker 3: military leadership since the missile strikes. Israeli authorities have attempted
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Speaker 3: to downplay the significance of the attacks, sinsored the locations
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Speaker 3: of missile impacts from media publication, and claim that Iran
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Speaker 3: was targeting Israeli civilians. What I saw today here in
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Speaker 3: Israel is clear evidence that Iran was targeting the seame
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Speaker 3: Israeli intelligence and military infrastructure that's been used over the
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Speaker 3: past year to carry out brutal assassinations and attacks.
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Speaker 1: So he has been arrested. Kit Clarenberg, who also contributes
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Speaker 1: to The Gray Zone, put this out on his Twitter
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Speaker 1: feed the day before yesterday.
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Speaker 4: I hate to be the bearer about news everyone, but
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Speaker 4: we've had a terrible update in the case of Jeremy Lefredo.
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Speaker 4: Jeremy is a twenty eight year old US citizen and
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Speaker 4: independent journalist who two days ago was arrested by Israeli
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Speaker 4: military officers while crossing a checkpoint in the illegally occupied
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Speaker 4: West Bank. He has been heldn Inn Israeli dungeon ever since,
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Speaker 4: added hearing earlier today. He has been formerly charged with
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Speaker 4: aiding the enemy during wartime and providing information to the enemy.
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Speaker 4: This is despite you know, as as his attorney made
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Speaker 4: clear and clear at the hearing, a spy would never
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Speaker 4: have acted so publicly and transparently. Jeremy has done nothing wrong.
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Speaker 4: These are allegations which can result in life imprisonment or
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Speaker 4: the death to eat.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so that's what he's looking at, life imprisonment or
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Speaker 1: the death penalty.
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Speaker 5: Now.
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Speaker 1: Grayson themselves have said that the charges stem from his
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Speaker 1: Jeremy's report for the Gray Zone that the Israelis are
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Speaker 1: officially police, are holding him on suspicion of serious security
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Speaker 1: offenses for publishing, sorry for publicly publishing the locations of
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Speaker 1: missile drops near or inside sense of security facilities with
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Speaker 1: the aim of bringing this to the notice of the
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Speaker 1: enemy and thereby assisting them in their future attacks. But
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Speaker 1: the point that Grazon makes in their comments is that
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Speaker 1: in fact, he didn't say anything that other media outlets
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Speaker 1: hadn't said, including ABC News and PBS, and they are
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Speaker 1: not facing similar charges. Gray Zone says that originally the
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Speaker 1: judge overseeing Jeremy's case ordered and released, saying that since
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Speaker 1: Israeli military censers agreed to allow Israeli military to publish
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Speaker 1: both word of Jeremy's arrest and the publications that led
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Speaker 1: to his rest that Israel could no longer justify his
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Speaker 1: continued attention. The police then appealed that decision, and so
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Speaker 1: for now he remains in Israeli custody. I wanted to
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Speaker 1: highlight some particular parts of the Gray Zone statement here
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Speaker 1: because they said that the Gray Zone unequivocally rejects these
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Speaker 1: outrageous accusations from Israeli police. We stand by Jeremy's legitimate reporting.
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Speaker 1: The claim that Lifredo and the Grey Zone represent Israel's
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Speaker 1: enemy and wartime merely suggests that the Israeli government views
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Speaker 1: the American people in free press as a legitimate target.
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Speaker 1: They went on to say, we will fight against these
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Speaker 1: charges and ask that you contact the State Department at
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Speaker 1: urge them to act in defense of the citizen detained
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Speaker 1: in Israel. The US has an obligation to defend its
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Speaker 1: journalists who are merely adhering to the ethical obligations to
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Speaker 1: inform the public of pertinent facts. Mark, I wonder if
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Speaker 1: you've get any thoughts on this, because the first thing
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Speaker 1: that strikes me is that if this had been Russia
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Speaker 1: that had pulled this kind of situation, had arrested a journalist,
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Speaker 1: whether it's for the Gray zone or for the mainstream
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Speaker 1: media or however, the US, the UK, the EU would
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Speaker 1: have all have been up in arms about it. We
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Speaker 1: would have been hearing it all through mainstream media publications.
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Speaker 1: And in the meantime, Western media absolutely silent on this.
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Speaker 1: So I've seen RT covering it is real pressive covenant,
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Speaker 1: but in the UK and the United States and the EU,
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Speaker 1: I have not seen any coverage of this whatsoever, complete silence.
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Speaker 1: So you know, I don't know if you've got thoughts
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Speaker 1: on this, but it just seems to me incredibly hypocritical,
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Speaker 1: particularly from the UK government in fact, who are absolutely
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Speaker 1: claiming to defend journalists rights and freedom of speech all
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Speaker 1: around the world.
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Speaker 6: Yes, it always runs into a blockade when it's the
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Speaker 6: state of Israel, always wanting to be beyond reproach, always
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Speaker 6: wanting to be the exception to the rule. One thing
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Speaker 6: to look out for would be journalists organizations like the
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Speaker 6: Society for Professional Journalists excuse me, and other journalistic trade
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Speaker 6: organizations and journalistic advocacy organizations, and see if they raise
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Speaker 6: the stink and say Israel should not be an exception.
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Speaker 6: Maybe Amy Goodman of Democracy now might be another one.
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Speaker 6: Israel should not be an exception, and they should be
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Speaker 6: held to the same standard, and this journalist should be
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Speaker 6: treated fairly and in accordance with the spirit of a
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Speaker 6: free press. I didn't realize till right away as you
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Speaker 6: did this report, Mike, that he was American. So, you know,
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Speaker 6: we claim to be sort of the flagship of the
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Speaker 6: free press and the First Amendment. So let's see the
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Speaker 6: US live up to its image and not help hold
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Speaker 6: Israel to a separate standard.
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Speaker 1: Well, I think we can already see that they're going
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Speaker 1: to do that if we accept the why that's subhead there, Mark,
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Speaker 1: they're saying the US is worried about a diplomatic incident.
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Speaker 1: I mean this clearly seems to suggest that the US
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Speaker 1: is trying to walk away from this reporter.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's really regrettable. He seems to be a very
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Speaker 6: competent reporter. He one thing he did. He's right on
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Speaker 6: the ground, He's right where he can see things firsthand.
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Speaker 6: I don't know if ABC, NBC and some of those
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Speaker 6: kind of reporters in PR, the BBC, I don't know
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Speaker 6: if they have people on the ground, And that might
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Speaker 6: be what particularly worries Israel, is that this reporter is
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Speaker 6: seeing things firsthand.
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Speaker 1: Indeed, so we wish him well and he does need support.
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Speaker 1: So I think we should be all asking minstream media
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Speaker 1: and politicians why they are not commenting on this. But Mark,
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Speaker 1: let's move to the United States then, and sticking with
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Speaker 1: the media to some degree. A potential murder between think
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Speaker 1: tanks and media.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, this is something I've been watching a long time, Mike.
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Speaker 6: You might recognize that picture. That's when I was in
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Speaker 6: the UK last in twenty eighteen, and I'm standing next
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Speaker 6: to this unusually large looking door at the front door
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Speaker 6: of Chatham House and it makes me look like a hobbit.
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Speaker 6: I'm no taller than the doorknob, but the door is
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Speaker 6: actually a very unusually large door. But going back to
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Speaker 6: around that time, I wrote an article our think tanks
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Speaker 6: becoming like the media or actually becoming the media Chatham
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Speaker 6: House's chiefs eleven thousand word articles says globalist think tank
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Speaker 6: network must unite the neoliberal order. And this is just
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Speaker 6: early rumblings at this time, Mike, about what direction think
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Speaker 6: tanks might be going and that they might become more
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Speaker 6: like media. And it's interesting how it is today compared
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Speaker 6: to when I wrote this article. This is some of
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Speaker 6: my writing from that post at my blog The Truthound
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Speaker 6: dot com. Chathamhouse Director doctor Robin Niblett wrote an eleven
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Speaker 6: thousand word article entitled rediscovering a Sense of Purpose to
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Speaker 6: challenge for Western think tanks in a particular volume of
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Speaker 6: the Chathamhouse Journal International Affairs. In it, he declared to
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Speaker 6: devise a common work program. Do think tanks from across
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Speaker 6: the world also need to possess a common sense of
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Speaker 6: purpose after something like one hundred years of think tank experience?
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Speaker 6: The answer is yes, he said, And he echoed the
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Speaker 6: great concerns expressed during early twenty eighteen by Council and
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Speaker 6: Form Relations President at that time, Richard Hass. He spoke
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Speaker 6: to the International Relations Committee of the UK's House of Lords.
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Speaker 6: You shared a video on that.
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Speaker 2: Mike with me.
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Speaker 6: Nibblett, regarding that, noted in his article that he's apprehensive
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Speaker 6: about the rise of populist politics, the implication being that
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Speaker 6: think tanks must either modify their mission or risk becoming
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Speaker 6: increasingly irrelevant, possibly to the point of losing their grip
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Speaker 6: on influencing government policy largely from behind the throne. And
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Speaker 6: we'll move on from there. This is a particular quote
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Speaker 6: from Sir Robin Niblett. He's the former director of Chathamhouse.
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Speaker 6: At this time, he's still a fellow there. He said this,
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Speaker 6: think tanks have to apply a growing proportion of their
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Speaker 6: resources to try and mobilize popular engagement. One approach has
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Speaker 6: been to raise their public profile by commenting more on
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Speaker 6: current policy developments rather than analyzing their underlying drivers. And
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Speaker 6: here's the key part of it. Emphasis added the danger.
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Speaker 6: He thinks it's a danger, at least he did at
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Speaker 6: that time. The danger is that this blurs the line
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Speaker 6: between think tanks and the media. Both things have evolved
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Speaker 6: since then, and we'll move forward. And this is actually
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Speaker 6: from twenty fifteen. So things started rumbling this way, heading
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Speaker 6: this way rather early, almost ten years ago. This is
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Speaker 6: from Kapen or Capan Kappa n when think tanks byplan
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Speaker 6: bypassed media outlets and do their own journalism. So at
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Speaker 6: this point it was it was seen as think tanks
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Speaker 6: bypassing media outlets. And this is just an excerpt from that.
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Speaker 2: Source.
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Speaker 6: Many Washington think tanks have been hiring well known journalists
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Speaker 6: in recent years in an effort to beef up their
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Speaker 6: efforts to get good writers, network with media types and
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Speaker 6: better disseminate information and policy policy proposals to a wider audience.
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Speaker 6: And it refers to a recent Economist article and points
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Speaker 6: out that it's not just op ed articles in the
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Speaker 6: editorial pages, and it's not just differences anymore. Think tanks
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Speaker 6: are becoming more like media. We've seen bits and pieces
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Speaker 6: of that from education thing tanks like Fordham, Carnegie, Brookings
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Speaker 6: and New America. And we'll move on from there. This
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Speaker 6: is that Economist reference making the headlines. The divide between
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Speaker 6: having ideas and reporting on them is dissolving. That divide
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Speaker 6: is dissolving. This is still ten years ago. And what
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Speaker 6: this basically says the left slide was a paywall, so
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Speaker 6: the text began to fade, so I put it in
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Speaker 6: the right slide so you could read it. Rat like cunning,
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Speaker 6: a plausible manner, and a little literary ability. The qualities
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Speaker 6: of a successful journalist one of the breed, are not
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Speaker 6: traditionally valued in think tanks, the semi academic institutions that
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Speaker 6: come up with ideas for politicians. Their policy papers are
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Speaker 6: meant to be dry. Their wants much more politicized civil
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Speaker 6: service than civil servants than excuse me, but increasingly think
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Speaker 6: tanks are doing journalism, not just blogging and tweeting, but
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Speaker 6: foreign reporting too, and we'll go on from there. A
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Speaker 6: think tank Watch is another source. People can look that
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Speaker 6: up and it gets into some of these things think
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Speaker 6: tanks doing journalism, and we'll move on from there. This
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Speaker 6: is from think tank Watch, citing the Economist. Foreign Policy
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Speaker 6: a magazine now runs Democracy Lab, a website paid for
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Speaker 6: by the Legatum Institute l e g. A t U
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Speaker 6: M or Legatum Institute, however you pronounce it, and that's
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Speaker 6: the think tank based in London.
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Speaker 2: It has a.
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Speaker 6: Madget modest budget excuse me for freelance journalists and so
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Speaker 6: on and so forth. People can read these individual slides
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Speaker 6: if they want all the details. But from there we
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Speaker 6: can learn more about Democracy Lab. And this is an
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Speaker 6: ongoing one. It still exists even though this stuff started
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Speaker 6: popping up the better part of ten years ago. Democracy
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Speaker 6: Lab is Foreign Policies home for coverage of transitions to democracy,
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Speaker 6: published in partnership with the Legatum Institute. Democracy Lab also
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Speaker 6: runs Transitions, a blog featuring on the ground coverage of
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Speaker 6: transitioning countries meaning transitioning from autocracy to democracy as they
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Speaker 6: see it, and Democracy Lab this is a little bit
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Speaker 6: more detail about it. When World War II came to
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Speaker 6: an end, there were only a dozen or so electoral
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Speaker 6: democracies in the world. Today there are over one hundred.
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Speaker 6: Many of the current members of the club joined within
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Speaker 6: the last quarter century and so on. A partnership between
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Speaker 6: Foreign Policy Magazine and the Legatum Institute. Democracy Lab is
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Speaker 6: a unique journalistic effort coming out of think tanks to
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Speaker 6: cover the political and economic challenges facing countries that are striving.
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Speaker 6: Here's that theme again, striving to make the transition from
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Speaker 6: authoritarianism to democracy. And that's one sign, Mike, that they're
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Speaker 6: not really objective because they assume all so called authoritarians
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Speaker 6: are not democratic, and they assume all democracies are open
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Speaker 6: and free. And we're learning that the US, the UK,
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Speaker 6: many European nations defined as democracies are actually the ones
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Speaker 6: that are most intent on censoring free speech on social
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Speaker 6: media and the Internet. Now, on this last slide, coming
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Speaker 6: to the current time, we're no longer in the past.
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Speaker 6: The ubiquitous Chicago Council on Global Affairs arguably the most
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Speaker 6: busy thing tank in the US, possibly in the world.
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Speaker 6: The former Chicago CFR they actually formed in twenty twenty three,
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Speaker 6: an actual news outlet. This is not just flirting with
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Speaker 6: the idea. Now they have created what they call their
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Speaker 6: own news outlet. It's called Blue Marble, which refers to
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Speaker 6: image of the Earth in space Blue Marble. And I'll
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Speaker 6: just cite a little bit of this. In twenty twenty three,
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Speaker 6: Blue Marble was founded as a news outlet by the
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Speaker 6: Chicago Console on Global Affairs, an independent, so called nonpartisan,
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Speaker 6: nonprofit organization to transform the way we see our world.
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Speaker 6: At Blue Marble, where prioritizing connection over clicks and pursuing
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Speaker 6: stories that go beyond headlines and beyond borders. We're keeping
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Speaker 6: our eye on the now and the not yet, seeking
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Speaker 6: out what the next generation needs to know to shape
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Speaker 6: a more open and promising world. Like the Apollo seventeen crew,
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Speaker 6: we believe that remarkable things happen when the world the
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Speaker 6: Blue Marble comes into view. And the bottom is just
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Speaker 6: a description of Blue Marble being supported by the Chicago Council.
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Speaker 6: Just basic information. But anyway, Mike, that's basically it. This
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Speaker 6: evolution from think tank to media is moving along, and
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Speaker 6: Blue Marble is, at least at this time, the concrete
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Speaker 6: example that the transformation is almost complete or very well
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Speaker 6: might be complete. So back to you.
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Speaker 1: Thank you Mark, Debbie. Let's welcome you to the program.
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Speaker 1: And well, everybody is aware of the World Health Organization
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Speaker 1: by now, but perhaps we have another organization that people
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Speaker 1: aren't all aware of, World Medical Association.
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Speaker 2: Yes, good afternoon everyone, lovely to be here. And I
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Speaker 2: don't know how this passed me by the World Medical Association.
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Speaker 2: What do they do? Well, let's have a look and
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Speaker 2: see what they do, because they seem to do and
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Speaker 2: all for lots. So if you go to their website
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Speaker 2: you can see that they cover medical ethics hooray we
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Speaker 2: all say to ourselves, human rights hooray, public health campaigns,
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Speaker 2: and they also have a strategic plan. So who are
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Speaker 2: the World Medical Association, Because, like you say, we've all
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Speaker 2: heard of the who, but the WMA so very briefly.
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Speaker 2: Really they were founded in nineteen forty seven twenty seven countries,
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Speaker 2: but actually they were born from the British Medical Association
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Speaker 2: who were concerned over medical ethics. And they're funded by
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Speaker 2: their members. They've got one hundred and fourteen national medical
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Speaker 2: associations and they've got their own strategic plan as well.
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Speaker 2: So when you go further into the website you can
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Speaker 2: see much more information. Here's their strategic plan, the twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty to twenty twenty five, adopted by them at their
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Speaker 2: general assembly in Tbilisi in twenty nineteen. So what do
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Speaker 2: they say. Well, they've got a mission. They want to
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Speaker 2: serve humanity. I mean, this is a very big mission,
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Speaker 2: isn't it serve humanity by endeavoring to achieve the highest
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Speaker 2: international standards in medical education, medical science, medical art, medical ethics,
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Speaker 2: and healthcare for all people in the world. Now, what
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Speaker 2: I'm seeing with this is we know that we've got
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Speaker 2: doctors on the ground in hospitals, and then we've got
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Speaker 2: their associations, and all doctors are part of associations. And
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Speaker 2: this is where we see this part of the pyramid
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Speaker 2: filled in. So let's look at their vision. So they
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Speaker 2: want to represent all physicians around the world. They want
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Speaker 2: to advocate on behalf of physicians of the world. They
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Speaker 2: want to work with partners, and here we go. They
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Speaker 2: want to take leadership. They are ready to lead, They're
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Speaker 2: ready to take accountability for people's ethical behavior. We think
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Speaker 2: this is all great, This is a really good organization,
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Speaker 2: isn't it. But actually, if we go further on and
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Speaker 2: we look at autonomy, human rights and health priorities and deliverables.
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Speaker 2: We can see that they're working partnerships partnerships with their members,
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Speaker 2: but also they're giving advocacy to politicians. They're looking at
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Speaker 2: healthcare that's in danger, so places where there are armed
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Speaker 2: conflicts wars for example. So they've got an awful lot
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Speaker 2: of responsibility. And they also represent doctors in the media
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Speaker 2: and in court too. So following on to the partnership's alliances,
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Speaker 2: because it does sound you know that this has got
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Speaker 2: quite quite good hopes, hasn't it. But oops, here we go.
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Speaker 2: We can see that they are partners officially with the
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Speaker 2: World Health Organization, and not just the World Organization. Actually
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Speaker 2: they're going to be partnered with the World Health Professionals Alliance,
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Speaker 2: which brings in nurses and pharmacists. So we've got all
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Speaker 2: of these associations partnered up with the who. So who's
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Speaker 2: in charge, well, currently in charges Dr Luzanne al Kordami,
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Speaker 2: who's the president. She's also a director for Global Action.
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Speaker 2: She's been very heavily involved with women's Global Health. But
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Speaker 2: of course if she's heading this organization, she's got a
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Speaker 2: Council of Members. So when I went to look at
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Speaker 2: the Council of Members, each country and a lot of
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Speaker 2: countries are involved in this, heavy influence from the USA,
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Speaker 2: heavy influence from Kuwait, Saudi and also Israel. So I
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Speaker 2: just went to look at the U representatives. Please feel
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Speaker 2: free to go to the website to look for your
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Speaker 2: own country because they are all there. So first of all,
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Speaker 2: we've got Professor Phillip Banfield who's a consultant obstetrician guynecologist.
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Speaker 2: He wants to lower maternal and infant mortality and he
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Speaker 2: lives in North Wales. I could prainly have a chat
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Speaker 2: with him and perhaps offer him a few suggestions how
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Speaker 2: to lower maternal and infant mortality. What do you think?
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Speaker 2: And then we've also got Latifa Patel, doctor Latifa Patel,
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Speaker 2: who's a pediatric respiratory doctor. She's up in the northwest
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Speaker 2: of England. And to her credit, actually she did stand
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Speaker 2: up and she talked about Pallenteer's involvement in the NHS,
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Speaker 2: so we can thank her for doing that. And she
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Speaker 2: spoke up quite vehemently as well, because they've picked up
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Speaker 2: this four hundred million pound data deal. And she says
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Speaker 2: and I quote, she is deeply worried. She urges the
20:52
Speaker 2: Secretary of State for an urgent rethink. She fears that
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Speaker 2: patient information maybe use how patient information may be you
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Speaker 2: and also is patient data being exploited? Well, with all
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Speaker 2: of these things going on, at least we should thank
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Speaker 2: her for that. But let's just finish this little segment
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Speaker 2: on the World Medical Association with a few words from
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Speaker 2: the president.
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Speaker 7: My name is Lujanel KODMANI. I am the President of
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Speaker 7: the World Medical Association, representing more than ten million physicians
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Speaker 7: for advocating for health and well being for all with noscrimination.
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Speaker 7: I'm speaking to you here in Geneva, attending the seventy
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Speaker 7: seventh World Health Assembly together with my colleague, to really
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Speaker 7: voice the concerns and a call for actions by physicians
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Speaker 7: and the rest of healthcare workers. I'm here in Geneva
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Speaker 7: to represent you, to represent our members, the work that
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Speaker 7: you have done in really advocating your voice and your
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Speaker 7: concerns regarding several issues, the challenges that you're facing at
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Speaker 1: Health Bill and well thirty eight degrees we're hosting. We're
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Speaker 1: hosting a petition for this and it received several thousand
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Speaker 1: sorry signatures on it. They've now taken it down on
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Speaker 1: the basis that it is in breach of their terms
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Speaker 1: of service, particularly the one which says that the wording
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Speaker 1: and claims in your petition must be factual and true.
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Speaker 1: So what they say is here. We have reached out
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Speaker 1: to the petition starter asking them to edit the petition
25:31
Speaker 1: to include links to reputable news sites that show that
25:35
Speaker 1: this bill will introduce parts of entry forced medication, examinations
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Speaker 1: and interventions as well as mandatory vaccination. The only article
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Speaker 1: we can find that's thirty eighth degrees says the bill
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Speaker 1: does not explicitly mandate compulsory vaccination, and states regulations must
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Speaker 1: allow exemptions from vaccination and include provisions about how someone
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Speaker 1: can show that exemption. They go on to say, we
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Speaker 1: have also found a state from the Northern ended Health
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Speaker 1: Department that says the following, and they quoted as saying,
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Speaker 1: there is currently no public health bill. There is a
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Speaker 1: public consultation on options for inclusion in a new bill.
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Speaker 1: When the consultation is concluded, all the submission submissions received
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Speaker 1: will be reviews and a proposed bill will then be prepared.
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Speaker 1: The Health Minister has stated publicly he does not favor
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Speaker 1: any mandatory vaccination parts being introduced. This option has been
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Speaker 1: included in the public consultation to give people the opportunity
26:29
Speaker 1: to have their say. So the first point I would
26:32
Speaker 1: make here is that there's quite a lot of comment
26:34
Speaker 1: on social media that thirty three degrees, sorry thirty eight
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Speaker 1: degrees was unfair in taking this petition down. I think
26:41
Speaker 1: in fairness to thirty eight degrees, I'm not a fan
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Speaker 1: of thirty eight degrees in any way actually, but in
26:46
Speaker 1: fairness to them, I think that a petition on this
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Speaker 1: issue was not the appropriate way to go. The appropriate
26:51
Speaker 1: way to go was to take part in the consultation.
26:54
Speaker 1: Now that's sadly finished, but let's just run through what
26:57
Speaker 1: that consultation was giving people the opportunity to have their
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Speaker 1: say about. So this was the Department of Health in
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Speaker 1: Northern Ireland public policy policy proposals to inform development of
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Speaker 1: a new public Health Bill for Northern Ireland, and they
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Speaker 1: were saying that domestic regulations may be made for the
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Speaker 1: purposes of preventing, protecting against, controlling, or providing a public
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Speaker 1: health response. They said that the regulations may impose restrictions
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Speaker 1: or requirements on or in relation to persons, things, or
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Speaker 1: premises in the event of, or in response to, a
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Speaker 1: threat to public health. And they highlight for example, requiring
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Speaker 1: a person to submit to a medical examination, being removed
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Speaker 1: to a hospital or other suitable establishment, be detained in
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Speaker 1: a hospital or other suitable establishment, keep a person in
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Speaker 1: isolation or in quarantine, require a person to be vaccinated
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Speaker 1: or to receive other prophylactive treatment, a person to be
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Speaker 1: disinfected or decontaminated, require a person to be vacked, sorry
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Speaker 1: that's a repeat, And that the person provide information or
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Speaker 1: answer questions about the person's health or other circumstances, and
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Speaker 1: that the person's health be monitored and the results reported,
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Speaker 1: that the person's attend training or advice sessions and how
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Speaker 1: to reduce the risk of infecting or contaminating others. That
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Speaker 1: the person be subject of restrictions as to where the
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Speaker 1: person may go or with whom the person may has contact,
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Speaker 1: that the person abstained from working or trading. And so
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Speaker 1: they ask questions such as, do you agree or disagree
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Speaker 1: with the proposed restrictions or requirements that may be included
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Speaker 1: in health protection regulations? Please give the reasons for your answer,
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Speaker 1: So as I say, because there is no health bill yet,
28:34
Speaker 1: the petition probably wasn't the right way to go in
28:36
Speaker 1: any case, let's just bring this one on screen. This
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Speaker 1: is showing that the consultation itself closed on the twenty
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Speaker 1: seventh of September, so it is too late to answer
28:48
Speaker 1: if people haven't done that already. But certainly UK column
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Speaker 1: covered this in time for everybody to get involved in
28:55
Speaker 1: that consultation. So it's that the comment about the petition
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Speaker 1: is maybe a little bit unfair. Maybe this was the
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Speaker 1: right way to go in the first place, but maybe
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Speaker 1: we talked about this a bit more in extra, Debbie,
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Speaker 1: let's change topics and come on to artificial intelligence.
29:16
Speaker 2: Oh yes, let's and how is safe is your data?
29:19
Speaker 2: Because let's face it, data is the new oil, and
29:22
Speaker 2: how safe is your data? Going to be pushing forward? Well,
29:25
Speaker 2: I'm going to introduce you to AC. So AC is
29:29
Speaker 2: the AI Safety Institute. But my question is going to
29:33
Speaker 2: be is how safe is the safety Institute? So let's
29:36
Speaker 2: look at the ministerial forward which came from January twenty
29:39
Speaker 2: twenty four Michelle Donolan then MP. She says that AI
29:44
Speaker 2: is the product of human creation and she says, actually
29:48
Speaker 2: it's a chat gp chack chat GTP was a spot
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Speaker 2: Nick moment for humanity. Really, this is all about acceleration
29:56
Speaker 2: of artificial intelligence and going into artificial general intelligence as well.
30:01
Speaker 2: So moving on, let's look at what AC are going
30:04
Speaker 2: to do. Well, they're going to inform the UK about
30:08
Speaker 2: international policy and about international policy making, and they're going
30:12
Speaker 2: to provide technical tools for governance and regulation. But they
30:16
Speaker 2: are not a regulator. However, it's a bit of a
30:20
Speaker 2: roller close to this because they're going to collaborate with
30:23
Speaker 2: civil society, government, academia and the private sector. So here
30:29
Speaker 2: we go again. We can see another massive private public
30:33
Speaker 2: philanthropic partnership. And the real agenda is actually to promote
30:37
Speaker 2: the UK's position on the global stage. So what are
30:40
Speaker 2: their functions? Well, their functions as well as safety and information,
30:47
Speaker 2: they're also looking at information exchange and this was the
30:50
Speaker 2: one that really stuck for me because they're collaborating with
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Speaker 2: other people. It's a trojan horse for information sharing with
30:58
Speaker 2: pretty much everybody in order to get the UK on
31:02
Speaker 2: the global stage. But the AC Directorate who are they?
31:07
Speaker 2: So this is they're funded and supported by the UK
31:11
Speaker 2: Department for Science, Innovation and Technology. So this is a
31:15
Speaker 2: big deal. And what does that actually mean? Well, if
31:18
Speaker 2: you get slipped to the next slide, it actually says
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Speaker 2: there that AC is the first state backed organization dedicated
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Speaker 2: to advancing the goal. But what are they currently building
31:32
Speaker 2: and running? What are they actually doing? So they're looking
31:35
Speaker 2: at misuse for dual cyber chemical biological attacks, something like
31:40
Speaker 2: cyber polygon for example. That the WEF were talking about
31:43
Speaker 2: their looking at autonomy and could AI make models of
31:47
Speaker 2: itself and replicate itself? And how dangerous is AI? Moving forward? Well,
31:54
Speaker 2: let's move on just on one slide again, because they've
31:58
Speaker 2: they've recruited top talent. So who is this top talent? Well,
32:02
Speaker 2: we've got Ian Hogarth.
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Speaker 8: Now.
32:04
Speaker 2: Ian Hogarth is an entrepreneur. He started off with a
32:07
Speaker 2: company called song Kick, which was basically getting music lovers
32:10
Speaker 2: to their concerts. He was also he's been very involved
32:14
Speaker 2: in lots of startup companies as well. And one of
32:18
Speaker 2: those startup companies I want you to just take notice
32:21
Speaker 2: of is one that's called Anthropic. But he's been involved
32:25
Speaker 2: in something called phasecraft all sorts of things and this
32:29
Speaker 2: is how he's gotten to the top of where he
32:32
Speaker 2: is now with AC. But he's going to model AC
32:34
Speaker 2: on the Vaccine Task Force, which let's not forget, was
32:38
Speaker 2: run by our very own hairy, scary Dame Kate Bingham.
32:42
Speaker 2: But let me introduce you to Ian Hogarth. I think
32:47
Speaker 2: we've got a little bit of video of Ian. Have
32:49
Speaker 2: a listen to what he says about AC. Recently, haven't
32:54
Speaker 2: we about artificial intelligence?
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Speaker 9: Both the opportunities it presents and the dangers it poses.
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Speaker 9: The UK's first ever ais are has been a pointer
33:03
Speaker 9: to manage those risks and rewards. His name is Ian Hogarth.
33:07
Speaker 9: He's been speaking to our technology editors, Zoey climbing about
33:10
Speaker 9: the challengers that lie ahead.
33:13
Speaker 10: The world is waking up to the potential and the
33:16
Speaker 10: dangers of the most advanced forms of artificial intelligence. Across
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Speaker 10: the globe. Countries are racing to try to both harness
33:24
Speaker 10: and regulate this technology. Here, Ian Hogarth, the tech entrepreneur,
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Speaker 10: is the man appointed by the Prime Minister to lead
33:31
Speaker 10: the charge on AI in the UK to ensure that
33:34
Speaker 10: it's developed safely.
33:36
Speaker 11: We've seen the results in terms of how powerful these
33:39
Speaker 11: systems are now, and so the question is if we
33:42
Speaker 11: keep doing that, and we keep feeding these systems more
33:44
Speaker 11: and more computing resource, more and more data, and we
33:48
Speaker 11: keep having stronger and stronger incentives for the private sector
33:52
Speaker 11: to accelerate this stuff, when do we cross a line
33:55
Speaker 11: when these systems become dangerous in a new way where
33:58
Speaker 11: they become, you know, closer to human intelligence or exceed
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Speaker 11: human intelligence. And no one can tell you a definitive
34:04
Speaker 11: answer for when that's going to be.
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Speaker 2: So that's Ian Hogarth, and let's just remind ourselves that
34:10
Speaker 2: AC is working with Google, a Deep Mind, it's working
34:14
Speaker 2: with Oxford University, it's working with so many big organizations.
34:19
Speaker 2: And this is where the question is is how safe
34:21
Speaker 2: is the Safety Institute. So let's look at the safety
34:24
Speaker 2: cases at AC and the collaborations that they're going to
34:28
Speaker 2: be working with and some of those collaborations. If we
34:32
Speaker 2: go on, we'll see that they're working with companies called
34:35
Speaker 2: Apollo Research and Redwood Research. But there's a lot of disagreement,
34:39
Speaker 2: a lot of people saying that this AI is way
34:43
Speaker 2: too dangerous, it poses way too many risks. But just
34:45
Speaker 2: to show you very quickly who they're working with, Redwood Research,
34:49
Speaker 2: this is to reduce risk. And this is a company
34:52
Speaker 2: that is a young startup seed company probably seeded actually
34:57
Speaker 2: from Plural, which Ian Hogarth is got quite a bigger saying.
35:02
Speaker 2: And this is Buck schlegeris this young innovator. And then
35:05
Speaker 2: we go to all Pollo Research, who are working with Google,
35:09
Speaker 2: and they're also working with Anthropic, And I just wanted
35:12
Speaker 2: to point that out because Ian Hogarth, again this is
35:15
Speaker 2: the revolving door. He's got interests in Anthropic. So here
35:19
Speaker 2: we are Apollo Research, and what have they been doing
35:23
Speaker 2: well with their partners again young innovators that seed funded,
35:28
Speaker 2: what have they been doing well? According to BBC News,
35:31
Speaker 2: they've been very busy designing AI bots. That are capable
35:34
Speaker 2: of trading and lying. So we've now got an AI
35:38
Speaker 2: bot that can actually make illegal purchase of stocks, financial
35:41
Speaker 2: deals and it denies, it denies having done it. So
35:46
Speaker 2: these are the kind of people and these are the
35:48
Speaker 2: kind of organizations that's going to be looking after our
35:51
Speaker 2: artificial intelligence. Do you trust the Safety Institute? Is my question?
35:57
Speaker 1: Thank you, Debbie. Right, let's come back to the UK
36:01
Speaker 1: and the issue of devolution, and well you'd be glad
36:04
Speaker 1: to know that the first the inaugural Mayor's Council was
36:08
Speaker 1: held yesterday. So if we're ever going to lift our regions,
36:12
Speaker 1: says the Mayor of East Midlands, Claire Ward, mayors need
36:15
Speaker 1: more pars and proper saying government's devolution plans. That's why
36:19
Speaker 1: it's great to join Angela Raynner in Newcastle to kick
36:22
Speaker 1: off the first Mayor's consul So this was organized by
36:26
Speaker 1: Angela Rayner and they the Government said that regional mayors
36:30
Speaker 1: were invited to the roundtable at the Common Room and
36:33
Speaker 1: Newcastle upon Time to share their views on the development
36:36
Speaker 1: of the upcoming English Devolution white paper. This will set
36:39
Speaker 1: up the government's plans to widen devolution to more areas
36:42
Speaker 1: and deepen the pars of existing mayors and their combined authorities,
36:46
Speaker 1: ensuring they have the tools needed to boost economic growth.
36:50
Speaker 1: But it's not really about economic growth, is it. So
36:54
Speaker 1: this is the slightly promotional graphic for the International Investment
36:58
Speaker 1: Summit that the government was pushing today. This is taking
37:01
Speaker 1: place very soon, and of course this is one of
37:06
Speaker 1: the major top of this all about net zero frankly,
37:09
Speaker 1: and innovation in net zero, innovation in carbon neutral energy production,
37:16
Speaker 1: amongst other things. So this is what they're pushing very
37:20
Speaker 1: hard at the moment, and of course related to that
37:23
Speaker 1: is this whole structure around mayors, this new form of
37:26
Speaker 1: governance which is being created. We've been talking about this
37:29
Speaker 1: for a very long time and highlighting this organization. As example,
37:33
Speaker 1: Andy Burnham heavily involved with it, all the UK mayors
37:36
Speaker 1: heavily involved in it. This is a global Parliament of Mayors.
37:39
Speaker 1: They're holding their annual summit in a couple of months
37:42
Speaker 1: time and we're going to get more of this type
37:45
Speaker 1: of thing from them. So if you want to see
37:48
Speaker 1: some of the background and just have a look at
37:49
Speaker 1: this article the Global Parliament of Mayors and the abolition
37:53
Speaker 1: of the electorate. But Mark I mean, this issue of
37:55
Speaker 1: the rise of the city mayors and the city regions
37:58
Speaker 1: and the city states has been one that you've been
38:01
Speaker 1: following for a very long time. Clearly, this is something
38:05
Speaker 1: that the UK government is pursuing extremely quickly now as
38:10
Speaker 1: we remove the control of or at least the perception
38:14
Speaker 1: of control of Parliament towards this devolved merial organizations. But
38:20
Speaker 1: what we're actually seeing is centralized control coming to the
38:24
Speaker 1: lowest level locally.
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Speaker 6: Exactly, Mike gets local globalism or globalism, and that's not
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Speaker 6: my term, that's the term of these globalists. One of
38:35
Speaker 6: the main things to keep in mind briefly on this
38:37
Speaker 6: is that mayors and city officials are not authorized. They
38:41
Speaker 6: don't have the authority to act beyond to act beyond
38:45
Speaker 6: their municipal function. In the US, there's no authority in
38:50
Speaker 6: city charters, state constitutions and so on for mayors and
38:54
Speaker 6: other city and municipal officials to assume this kind of
38:58
Speaker 6: power for themselves. And that's what they're doing. They're being
39:01
Speaker 6: self aggrandizing. They're grasping at power, grasping at higher authority
39:06
Speaker 6: that they don't legitimately have.
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Speaker 1: That's absolutely the case, and you know, as far as
39:13
Speaker 1: the actual global parliament, as mayors goes and so on.
39:17
Speaker 1: It's separating the idea of democracy from the voter because
39:24
Speaker 1: many of these people are appointed and not elected in
39:27
Speaker 1: the first place. But it's still an area where people
39:30
Speaker 1: don't perceive the dangers.
39:34
Speaker 6: Yeah, the exactly, the mayor's corporations, civil society, which is
39:40
Speaker 6: kind of a meaningless amorphous term, and all these stakeholders
39:44
Speaker 6: another meaningless term. They're the new constituents. The average person
39:48
Speaker 6: is no longer a constituent exactly.
39:51
Speaker 1: The stakeholder stakeholders is retirement. Of course, we hear stakeholder
39:55
Speaker 1: capitalism being bandied, but as we build these public private
39:59
Speaker 1: partnership of which the mayors are a major part. Okay,
40:03
Speaker 1: let's move on then, and Debbie obviously related to net
40:07
Speaker 1: zero policy and mayors absolutely pushing this as hard as
40:11
Speaker 1: they possibly can. Central government big too slow with respect
40:15
Speaker 1: to net zero. The rise of electric vehicles and so
40:21
Speaker 1: on a big part of that. But you've been highlighting
40:24
Speaker 1: the dangers of electric vehicles for quite some time.
40:27
Speaker 2: Yes, I have, indeed, and you know we've all been looking,
40:31
Speaker 2: I'm sure at the devastation that's been going on on
40:34
Speaker 2: the East Coast of the USA with both Hurricane Helena
40:37
Speaker 2: and Hurricane Milton. And I just want to bring your
40:40
Speaker 2: attention to Hurricane Milton first of all, because as I hear,
40:45
Speaker 2: thirty million, thirty billion, sorry trillion at thirty billion trillion
40:50
Speaker 2: gallons of water landed through Milton, unlike Helena. So if
40:57
Speaker 2: we go to the next slide, you can see that
40:59
Speaker 2: Hurricane hell devastated, absolutely devastated. And I hear from that
41:04
Speaker 2: forty trillions gallons of water was dumped on North Carolina
41:10
Speaker 2: and lots of deaths. And PolitiFact, I've been looking at
41:13
Speaker 2: the whole hurricane situation and it's a huge, huge issue.
41:17
Speaker 2: Perhaps we'll talk about it more in extra But of
41:19
Speaker 2: course there's been lots of misinformation and disinformation going on,
41:23
Speaker 2: including PolitiFact very quick to come out and rubbish these
41:28
Speaker 2: posts suggesting that the mountains are full of lithium for
41:32
Speaker 2: lithium iron batteries in Carolina and that this was all
41:35
Speaker 2: part of a land grab involving black rock. However, they
41:39
Speaker 2: were very quick to put this out if your time
41:43
Speaker 2: is short, so you can read it in short, that
41:45
Speaker 2: there was no human weather modification took place, that the
41:50
Speaker 2: state's land is not being seized by lithium mining and
41:54
Speaker 2: that there's nothing to look at here. So I've been
41:58
Speaker 2: watching all of the coverage and I noticed during the
42:02
Speaker 2: briefings I heard this from the officials, and I'd like
42:06
Speaker 2: lead you to listen to it too. Listen carefully to
42:08
Speaker 2: what they say about floodwater and electric vehicles.
42:13
Speaker 8: Warning about lithium ion batteries right now as well. So
42:16
Speaker 8: if you have any type of electric vehicle, whether it's
42:19
Speaker 8: a car, a scooter, a golf carts, a hoverboard, or
42:23
Speaker 8: any power tools that use those, make sure they are
42:26
Speaker 8: moved away from any potential flooding.
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Speaker 12: Never drive through floodwater. Water and EV batteries do not
42:35
Speaker 12: mix water or not only damage the battery, but can
42:39
Speaker 12: lead to dangerous battery fires. Combustion can incur quickly or
42:44
Speaker 12: manifest for weeks or months when exposed to salt water. Additionally,
42:50
Speaker 12: the City of Tampa has opened their parking garages for
42:53
Speaker 12: free for EV owners and flood prone areas. I would
42:57
Speaker 12: encourage you to park your vehicle and one of the
43:00
Speaker 12: parking garages. So do remain high and dry.
43:06
Speaker 2: And I can tell you the one thing that you
43:08
Speaker 2: need after a flood or as before a flood is
43:10
Speaker 2: coming as a car because you need to get away.
43:13
Speaker 2: So thank you so much to Kenny, because he found
43:16
Speaker 2: me some footage of well, what does an ev look like?
43:20
Speaker 2: Spontaneously combusting in salt water? Have a look at this?
43:46
Speaker 2: So pretty horrific, huh. And there are plenty of articles,
43:49
Speaker 2: and I want to draw your attention to the New
43:50
Speaker 2: York Times, Can your electric vehicle catch fire during a hurricane?
43:55
Speaker 2: And then similarly another article Jalopnik who gave a report
44:01
Speaker 2: after Helene saying that ebs were spontaneously combusting in salt water.
44:06
Speaker 2: The article goes on to talk about how, and it's
44:09
Speaker 2: because salt basically conducts electricity. And this was all picked
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Speaker 2: up too in Hurricane Sandy in two twelve. So if
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Speaker 2: the next slide tells you about how the mechanics, I mean,
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Speaker 2: police do go. And I'm not an expert in this,
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Speaker 2: but if saltwater apparently is able to bridge the gap
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Speaker 2: between positive and negative terminals of the battery, you get
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Speaker 2: what's called thermal runway, which is where they short circuit
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Speaker 2: and heat up. And you know, this isn't just hurricanes,
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Speaker 2: and this is floods everywhere, And we only had floods
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Speaker 2: last week in Cornwall. Here's Cornwall Live telling us about
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Speaker 2: the warning after the roads flooded in Cornwall. And I've
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Speaker 2: got a little bit of silent video because it was
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Speaker 2: taken by my son whose language wasn't particularly great. But
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Speaker 2: this was my road last week.
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Speaker 5: All right, this is my house. Ah, I can't get
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Speaker 5: across the road. Oh my god.
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much to Stephanie and everybody who edited that.
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Speaker 2: But yes, I mean I was surrounded. We couldn't get
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Speaker 2: in or out of the house. There were vehicles submerged
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Speaker 2: in water. Now some people might say that's not salt water,
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Speaker 2: but actually we're only five hundred yards from the beach,
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Speaker 2: so nobody knows that it wasn't salt water. And many
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Speaker 2: areas in corn will do flood from salt water. But
45:57
Speaker 2: let's just not forget King char because he's got a
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Speaker 2: real interest in ev and green insurance. We've covered it
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Speaker 2: many times, but we've also covered it on Green King.
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Speaker 2: But here's the insurance post how insurance are supporting King
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Speaker 2: Charles and the Telegraph. Just to end this segment of warning,
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Speaker 2: the electric car premiums are set to saw, especially the
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Speaker 2: Chinese made cars, because those batteries can be particularly sometimes problematic,
46:25
Speaker 2: and repair ability is what is what's going to get
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Speaker 2: those insurance premiums up because they are so impossibly expensive
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Speaker 2: to repair. So that's another reason to auder your electric vehicle.
46:40
Speaker 2: I know you're going to be doing that straight after
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Speaker 2: the program, Mike.
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Speaker 1: I think we discussed that in the last extra Debbie.
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Speaker 1: I think that's doing okay on social media at the moment,
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Speaker 1: actually my little rant on modern cars. But anyway, of course,
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Speaker 1: it's not just the damage to the cars themselves, as
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Speaker 1: we saw from that video clip, it's the damage to
46:58
Speaker 1: surrounding area as well. So I understand why this would
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Speaker 1: be viewed as a major risk by insurance companies. I
47:04
Speaker 1: just want to make one correction to what I said
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Speaker 1: on the Public Health Bill segment. Kenny was kind enough
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Speaker 1: to post in the chat box, and in fact that
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Speaker 1: consultation has been extended to the fourteenth of October, so
47:16
Speaker 1: there's still a little bit of time apparently to make
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Speaker 1: your thoughts felt on that. Now let's move on to
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Speaker 1: the issue of war, and of course here we have
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Speaker 1: the lovely Vladimir Selenski and Mark Rutter who decided to
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Speaker 1: come and visit the funding their care starmer almost forgot
47:37
Speaker 1: his name, eminently forgettable. They actually rolled out the red
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Speaker 1: carpet for Zelenski literally, so here we are and there
47:47
Speaker 1: he is getting as hug in a kiss as usual,
47:49
Speaker 1: they were very happy to discuss the Zelensky is what
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Speaker 1: he's describing as a new plan for peace and so on.
47:58
Speaker 1: Of course, this is all about Ukraine's entry into into NATO.
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Speaker 1: This is this Mark Rot that has made it absolutely
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Speaker 1: clear this is going to be his main priority over
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Speaker 1: the coming days and weeks. Now, as we mentioned on
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Speaker 1: what we mentioned on wednes his program, I think that
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Speaker 1: NATO had said that there would be no media opportunity
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Speaker 1: for this. There were a couple of opportunities, and so
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Speaker 1: Markrot did make a couple of comments, he said, particularly
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Speaker 1: talking about the issue of whether Ukraine is allowed to
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Speaker 1: fire its weapons, his long range weapons into Russian territory.
48:30
Speaker 1: He said, legally, Ukraine is allowed to use its weapons
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Speaker 1: if they can hit targets in Russia that present a
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Speaker 1: threat to Ukraine. But the decision is not up to me.
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Speaker 1: He went on to say, it is up to the
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Speaker 1: individual allies to decide how weapons that they deliver into
48:45
Speaker 1: Ukraine can be used. So very much trying to brush
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Speaker 1: that off his own shoulders. He wanted to head that
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Speaker 1: off to all the various individual countries to decide forum
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Speaker 1: whether those were going to be allowed to be used
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Speaker 1: by Ukraine. In the meantime, the question of whether the
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Speaker 1: upcoming summit on further weapons to Ukraine is going to
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Speaker 1: take place or not is up in the air because
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Speaker 1: the Biden had postponed attending Germany for the litist Ramstein
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Speaker 1: summit because he was worried about what was going to
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Speaker 1: happen in Florida over the weekend. So he's postponed that,
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Speaker 1: but they have not created a new date for it yet,
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Speaker 1: so Zelensky not so happy about that at the moment.
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Speaker 1: We'll see what transpars there. In the meantime, of course,
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Speaker 1: many other things going on around the world, not just
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Speaker 1: in the Middle East and in Ukraine. The pressure on
49:42
Speaker 1: North Africa continues to build, and Ethiopia, as Charles has
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Speaker 1: been highlighting in recent weeks, another area of tension, and
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Speaker 1: this is from the New Humanitarian their headline here, tensions
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Speaker 1: rise in the Horn of Africa's Ethiopia searches for a
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Speaker 1: route to the sea. Now, as Charles is reported, Ethiopia
50:03
Speaker 1: trying to get access to the sea to seaports sort
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Speaker 1: of export and important one in the import stuff, but
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Speaker 1: they're not they're finding that problematic at the moment, and
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Speaker 1: this is mainly because of tensions between Eritrea, Egypt and Somalia.
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Speaker 1: So if you remember, there's a deal between Ethiopia and
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Speaker 1: Somali land to try to do this in Eritrea. Egypt
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Speaker 1: and Somalia are unhappy about that, so they're building pressure
50:28
Speaker 1: on the situation in Ethiopia. But don't worry because the
50:32
Speaker 1: UK has now started pumping money into the region to
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Speaker 1: try to get people that have been fighting in the
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Speaker 1: recent conflict in Ethiopia to put down their weapons and
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Speaker 1: go back into civilian life. I'm going to say very
50:43
Speaker 1: clearly that anywhere the conflicts stability and security money has
50:46
Speaker 1: gone in the past, we've found the conflict in fact
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Speaker 1: escalate and so it would not surprise me if Ethiopia
50:54
Speaker 1: starts to become a bit more problematic in the next weeks,
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Speaker 1: months and years as this money starts to flow in.
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Speaker 1: In the meantime, then with respect to sanctions, the BBC
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Speaker 1: here very keen to tell us all about the fact
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Speaker 1: that UK linked firms are suspected of, as the BBC says,
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Speaker 1: busting sanctions, and this is well, they're saying that basically
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Speaker 1: a number of companies, through free of information requests the
51:22
Speaker 1: BBC has discovered, are under investigation by the Treasury for
51:28
Speaker 1: breaking the sanctions. And they are talking about this being
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Speaker 1: done through an organization called or a body within the
51:35
Speaker 1: format within the Treasury, sorry, called the Office for Financial
51:41
Speaker 1: Sanctions Implementation. Well that's now been added to with a
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Speaker 1: new body, the Office for Trade Sanctions Implementation. So apparently
51:52
Speaker 1: there must be lots of sanctions bust then going on,
51:54
Speaker 1: because more and more various officers are being set up
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Speaker 1: to try to deal with it. So this new Office
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Speaker 1: for Trade Sanctions of the Implementation, which launched yesterday, we'll
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Speaker 1: work with industry to make complying with sanctions obligations as
52:07
Speaker 1: straightforward as possible by issuing guidance and user friendly online tools.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure the companies that are breaking the sanctions are
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Speaker 1: really worried about that, but anyway, we'll watch it with
52:19
Speaker 1: interest to see how that develops. Mark, let's come on
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Speaker 1: to you then, and what's the latest in the US
52:27
Speaker 1: from the general election.
52:31
Speaker 6: Well, Mike, this is a lesson. In contrast, Life News,
52:36
Speaker 6: a pro life news outlet, just to be upfront, although
52:39
Speaker 6: this is not about the abortion industry. Donald Trump now
52:42
Speaker 6: given the best odds to win the presidential race. Of course,
52:45
Speaker 6: people in the UK and throughout the world want to
52:48
Speaker 6: have a better handle on who the next US president
52:51
Speaker 6: will be, since the US claims to be the current
52:55
Speaker 6: empire of the world. And this is from Life News
52:58
Speaker 6: earlier this week, and this is as of October nine,
53:02
Speaker 6: so keeping that in mind when this came out, Republican
53:04
Speaker 6: nominee Donald Trump pulled ahead of his Democratic opponent Kambala
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Speaker 6: Harris on a leading prediction website, a website that's said
53:12
Speaker 6: to be more legitimate than regular polling, rejecting both candidates'
53:16
Speaker 6: odds of winning next month's presidential election. As of the
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Speaker 6: eighth of October, Trump was seen as the slight favorite
53:24
Speaker 6: on this special entity called Polymarket, which gave him a
53:29
Speaker 6: fifty two point six percent chance of returning to the
53:32
Speaker 6: White House, six points higher than the forty six point
53:36
Speaker 6: seven percent change that the site gave Harris. At times,
53:40
Speaker 6: Polymarket showed Trump having as much as an eight point
53:43
Speaker 6: six percent lead over Harris. His biggest advantage on the
53:47
Speaker 6: site since early August. Harris was considered by the site's
53:51
Speaker 6: odds to be the slight favorite to win the election
53:54
Speaker 6: since September twelve, but that was two days after the
53:57
Speaker 6: one and only the debate between her and Trump. But
54:00
Speaker 6: also polymarket showed that Trump is favored to win just
54:04
Speaker 6: enough battleground states to give them a slight majority in
54:06
Speaker 6: the electoral College, the electoral college that the Democrats largely
54:10
Speaker 6: want to get rid of. And we'll move on from there.
54:15
Speaker 6: Life News went on to say, just a couple other tidbits.
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Speaker 6: The site then showed Trump as the strong favorite to
54:20
Speaker 6: win the states of Arizona sixty seven percent, Georgia sixty
54:24
Speaker 6: four percent, and North Carolina sixty percent. Keeping in mind
54:28
Speaker 6: that North Carolina, South Carolina, Florida, and Georgia, however, are
54:33
Speaker 6: being seen as problematic due to the hurricanes, and whether
54:37
Speaker 6: that will actually affect people's ability to vote in large numbers,
54:42
Speaker 6: that's a very big question right now. Polymarket brands itself
54:47
Speaker 6: as the world's largest prediction market, and research shows prediction
54:52
Speaker 6: markets are often more accurate than polls and pundits, although
54:56
Speaker 6: that's according to polymarket itself, which says traders aggregate news
55:02
Speaker 6: polls and expert opinions, making informed trades. Their economic incentives
55:06
Speaker 6: ensure market prices adjust to reflect true odds as more
55:11
Speaker 6: knowledgeable participants joining the process. This makes prediction markets the
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Speaker 6: best source, they say, of real time event probabilities. People
55:20
Speaker 6: use polymarket, which is a prediction market for the most
55:23
Speaker 6: accurate odds, gaining the ability to make informed decisions about
55:27
Speaker 6: the future. So all of this is basically saying that
55:30
Speaker 6: it's more realistic and more accurate to say that Trump
55:34
Speaker 6: is leading Kamala Harris by a fairly significant margin, and
55:37
Speaker 6: we're hearing opposite things, or at least largely different things
55:40
Speaker 6: in the mainstream news. However, this is the contrast I
55:44
Speaker 6: talked about. Election transparency is a real problem. So you
55:47
Speaker 6: can say somebody is going to win or this person's
55:50
Speaker 6: going to lose, but what about the election integrity anyway?
55:55
Speaker 6: An uncertifiable election twenty twenty four This article is about.
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Speaker 6: It comes from republic Broadcasting dot org, originally written by
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Speaker 6: Lex Green. In order for an election to be certifiable,
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Speaker 6: it must be verifiable. We must have total election transparency,
56:11
Speaker 6: lawful procedures, unbiased reporting, secure voting mechanisms, and proof that
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Speaker 6: only legally eligible American voters were able to vote in
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Speaker 6: the elections. If we cannot verify that the elections are
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Speaker 6: lawful and secure, then the elections will not be certifiable.
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Speaker 6: And it talks about the Democratic Party being particularly problematic,
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Speaker 6: wanting illegal aliens to vote in all these things that
56:34
Speaker 6: drastically reduce security and therefore certifiability. And I'll just share
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Speaker 6: some other tidbiths and that will basically winden this up.
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Speaker 6: Also from that same writer on numerous Democrat controlled states
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Speaker 6: are blocking election officials from requiring any form of legal
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Speaker 6: ID to vote. California is a big one there. And
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Speaker 6: all these yellow yellow text areas in this slide are
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Speaker 6: all actually live lengths and show the sources of where
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Speaker 6: this came from. The next one, the Biden Harris Department
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Speaker 6: of Justice is actually suing states for removing known ineligible
57:11
Speaker 6: voters from their state voter rolls. While Democrat control states
57:16
Speaker 6: like Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, which are pivotal states for Trump,
57:20
Speaker 6: they refuse to remove known ineligible voters from their voter roles,
57:25
Speaker 6: and that concerns an estimated two hundred and eighteen thousand
57:29
Speaker 6: of known ineligible voters in Arizona alone. States like Michigan
57:34
Speaker 6: have even unlawfully amended their state constitutions and rushed through
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Speaker 6: new election laws since twenty twenty two, making it illegal
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Speaker 6: for anyone of the state to challenge election results even
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Speaker 6: when the evidence is clear. And the Michigan Secretary of
57:49
Speaker 6: State Benson allegedly has been involved in an illegal collusion
57:52
Speaker 6: election tampering operation with the other swing states to establish unlawful, insecure,
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Speaker 6: non transparent, and fraudulent system in each etc.
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Speaker 2: Etc.
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Speaker 6: So you see these predictions. Donald Trump is getting a
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Speaker 6: handle on this, it looks like he's realistically perhaps going
58:09
Speaker 6: to win. And yet they run into this wall, Mike,
58:12
Speaker 6: of not just democratic problems, democratically caused problems, but also
58:19
Speaker 6: Republicans that claim to be concerned about election integrity but
58:22
Speaker 6: don't really do anything about it. And so we also
58:26
Speaker 6: have the stas affected by hurricanes that where the voters
58:30
Speaker 6: might not even be able to vote in large numbers.
58:32
Speaker 6: And so we see a very contrasting situation where the
58:38
Speaker 6: elections might run up against a wall. And so this
58:40
Speaker 6: might be a particularly problematic election for the US, one
58:45
Speaker 6: of the most problematic in recent history. So there we go.
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Speaker 1: Is it possible for it to be more problematical than
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Speaker 1: the last one?
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Speaker 6: It is actually more more Excuse me, it is possible. Yes,
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Speaker 6: and this is saying nothing. Garland Favrido and the voter
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Speaker 6: ID voter excuse me, voter GA in Georgia whom I
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Speaker 6: profiled and a UK column interview and the solid evidence
59:11
Speaker 6: he has from twenty twenty that that election in the
59:14
Speaker 6: state of Georgia was very unlawful and very likely stolen.
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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, thank you, Mark Debbie. That's a final little
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Speaker 1: video clip here.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and finally, do you want a better digital future?
59:29
Speaker 2: I actually don't want a digital future full stop. However,
59:33
Speaker 2: I would like to extend an invitation to Prince Harry
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Speaker 2: to come and be interviewed to talk to UK column
59:40
Speaker 2: because I caught this little bit of footage when he
59:42
Speaker 2: was talking at arch Well. I'm not quite sure what
59:44
Speaker 2: he means, but he's talking about a better digital future,
59:48
Speaker 2: and then I heard the word experiment. Have a listen
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Speaker 2: to this.
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Speaker 12: We need a better digital future, one that we all deserve.
1:00:01
Speaker 2: We were promised to human experience. Instead we'd been a
1:00:05
Speaker 2: human experiment, human experiment. We should have had a human experience.
1:00:12
Speaker 2: Oh please, Prince Harry, if you're listening, I would love
1:00:16
Speaker 2: for you to clarify what you meant there and what
1:00:19
Speaker 2: better digital future are we heading for.
1:00:21
Speaker 1: Well, he was talking about Debbie, who was talking about
1:00:23
Speaker 1: social media companies experimenting on our children in particular, so
1:00:28
Speaker 1: that was where he was going with that. But thank
1:00:30
Speaker 1: you very much for putting that on there, and we
1:00:33
Speaker 1: need to leave it there for today. Thanks to Debbie
1:00:36
Speaker 1: and Mark for joining us. Thanks to everybody that watched.
1:00:40
Speaker 1: We'll be back in a few minutes if the UK
1:00:42
Speaker 1: called a member for some extra Otherwise, have a great
1:00:44
Speaker 1: weekend and we'll see it on Monday at one pm
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Speaker 1: as usual. Thanks for joining us. Bye bye.