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The Brain/Gut/Vagina Connection: with Lo Bosworth (Founder, Love Wellness) · QUESTION EVERYTHING

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Speaker 1: Big things happen when you're pretty, pretty bold, pretty clever,
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Speaker 1: pretty strong. I'm Danielle Robe and each week my guests
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Speaker 1: and I have conversations that put a new spin on pretty.
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Speaker 2: This is pretty smart. An AHA moment can come in
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Speaker 2: many forms.
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Speaker 1: Maybe you've realized something about a relationship, or solved a
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Speaker 1: problem at work, or even figured out your friend's boyfriend
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Speaker 1: was cheating on Instagram.
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Speaker 2: That's an AHA. But in AHA health moment.
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Speaker 1: That's a specific kind of victory. It can set wheels
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Speaker 1: in motion to change our physical, mental, and sexual health.
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Speaker 1: Low Bosworth had one of these AHA moments years ago.
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Speaker 1: Now you certainly remember her from her days on Laguna
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Speaker 1: Beach in the Hills. Now, she's the founder and CEO
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Speaker 1: of Love Wellness, which provides multi itemins, supplements, and personal
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Speaker 1: care products for women. The company was born out of
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Speaker 1: her own personal journey to wellness, which started with chronic
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Speaker 1: health problems. Her anxiety diagnosis eventually spiraled into physical symptoms
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Speaker 1: including chronic yeast infections, UTIs, and dizziness. It led to
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Speaker 1: an AHA moment that changed the course of her life.
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Speaker 1: Her mission is to bring that AHA moment to every woman.
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Speaker 2: Today. Low is helping us go.
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Speaker 1: From blah to balanced, teaching us to demystify our own health,
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Speaker 1: including the countless lies women have been sold about our
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Speaker 1: own bodies. And it all starts with trusting and feeding
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Speaker 1: our gut well and our brains and our vaginas.
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Speaker 2: But we'll get into that.
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Speaker 1: So Low your one of the internet's go to wellness cleans.
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Speaker 1: What is it typical day in your life look like
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Speaker 1: right now?
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Speaker 3: All right, well, thank you, that's very nice. So I
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Speaker 3: work full time as the founder CEO of Luck Wellness,
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Speaker 3: and so you know, I'm actually going to work to
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Speaker 3: help build and support a wellness business every day, and
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Speaker 3: so it's always very much top of mind for me.
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Speaker 3: It's kind of like I can't escape it. But in
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Speaker 3: a really interesting way, I have gotten really good at
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Speaker 3: balancing my life, my work life, my social life. And
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Speaker 3: it's in that balance that I find I'm able to
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Speaker 3: kind of be a lot of things for a lot
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Speaker 3: of different people, whether it's you know, somebody on social
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Speaker 3: who's like sharing wellness tips, or you know, my workout
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Speaker 3: for the day, or what I'm meeting and at the
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Speaker 3: office doing, you know, back to back meetings all day long.
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Speaker 3: And also you can't forget about yourself right. Taking care
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Speaker 3: of yourself is a big part of that as well.
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Speaker 3: I'm like a very big practitioner of naps, taking babs,
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Speaker 3: and truly like taking time for myself.
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Speaker 1: So like, when you wake up, are you up at
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Speaker 1: like seven and then you go to your own workout class?
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Speaker 3: No? God, No, I don't wake up at seven. That's
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Speaker 3: absolutely crazy. I don't have children, and so I like,
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Speaker 3: some parts of me wish that I did, and other
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Speaker 3: parts of me are like, wow, I can wake up
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Speaker 3: at like eight thirty and like it's totally fine. I
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Speaker 3: actually like don't have an alarm. I just wake up
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Speaker 3: in the morning. And you know, if I exercise, it's
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Speaker 3: frequently in the morning. I'll do the class by tearing
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Speaker 3: to me or something kind of like that. I've actually
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Speaker 3: gotten into weightlifting recently, and I'm doing this strength training
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Speaker 3: program on obey my mornings. I take it pretty easy.
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Speaker 3: I'm like, I like, purposefully take it easy. I wake
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Speaker 3: up when I want to, I exercise if I want to,
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Speaker 3: but mostly I'm just up in the morning and heading
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Speaker 3: into the office and walking has actually become one of
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Speaker 3: my main forms of exercise. I have an underdeesk treadmill
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Speaker 3: at the office, and I can bust out eight or
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Speaker 3: nine miles in a day.
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Speaker 2: Wait.
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Speaker 1: I have always wondered about these How do you type
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Speaker 1: and walk?
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Speaker 3: It's not hard, It's just not hard. I have a
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Speaker 3: desk that goes up and down, obviously, what is I
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Speaker 3: called a standing desk, and it just has never been
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Speaker 3: a challenge for me. In fact, like my brain works
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Speaker 3: really well when I'm walking. Well, it's awesome.
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Speaker 1: I'm so excited and honestly inspired to hear about your
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Speaker 1: balance life. I'm not sure I'm quite there, but I
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Speaker 1: know that you weren't always either, because before twenty sixteen,
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Speaker 1: at some point you started feeling off, which actually inspired
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Speaker 1: love wellness.
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Speaker 2: When did you start feeling like something wasn't right?
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Speaker 3: I think it was it started to become a parent.
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Speaker 3: In twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen. It was a couple of
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Speaker 3: years after I had moved New York, and I started
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Speaker 3: to experience real anxiety for the first time, not stress
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Speaker 3: driven anxiety or not stress right, because stress and anxiety
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Speaker 3: or different things. I started to experience actual anxiety. It
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Speaker 3: was like palpable, felt like adrenaline from the moment that
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Speaker 3: I would wake up in the morning, and it got
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Speaker 3: worse over time, and then like depression was one of
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Speaker 3: the symptoms that got added, which is very common, right
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Speaker 3: if you're anxious and you don't feel in control, like
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Speaker 3: of course, it's very easy to become depressed as well.
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Speaker 3: And then I started to get UTIs, and then I
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Speaker 3: started to get YaST infections, and I had all of
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Speaker 3: these like low grade mystery symptoms that I couldn't quite
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Speaker 3: connect to any one thing. And I started going to
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Speaker 3: the doctor, all kinds of doctors, and ultimately it took
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Speaker 3: me eighteen months for one doctor to get to like
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Speaker 3: a piece of a root cause. And one of those
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Speaker 3: things that was discovered was that I had really severe
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Speaker 3: vitamin efficiencies and it was like the first tangible piece
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Speaker 3: of news that I had gotten in years that kind
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Speaker 3: of gave me a clue as to why I was
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Speaker 3: not feeling like myself. And before those test results came back,
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Speaker 3: I would never think that vitamin deficiencies was the cause
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Speaker 3: of my neurological issues. But it turns out when you're
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Speaker 3: severely deficient in vitamin B and vitamin D, like, what
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Speaker 3: are the symptoms of that anxiety and depression? And so
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Speaker 3: I was like oh, and it was by way of
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Speaker 3: going through that experience, tons of research, tons of doctors,
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Speaker 3: tons of you know, trips to the drug store, not
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Speaker 3: just for the depression and anxiety, but also for all
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Speaker 3: of sort of like the personal care issues that I
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Speaker 3: was dealing with as well. I really saw a huge
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Speaker 3: whitespace opportunity when it comes to women's health and felt
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Speaker 3: like what I was learning from my doctors at the time,
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Speaker 3: I had never nobody had ever communicated with me about this,
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Speaker 3: that like, your gut health is really important as it
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Speaker 3: relates to brain health as it relates to vaginal health,
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Speaker 3: that there is like a trickle up and trickle down
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Speaker 3: effect from the gut to the brain into the vagina.
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Speaker 3: And so I had these vitamin deficiencies right, And then
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Speaker 3: over time I became aware that the actual root cause
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Speaker 3: was a gut health issue, because if you have gut
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Speaker 3: health issues, you're going to have absorption issues. So I
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Speaker 3: was like, oh, it's vitamin deficiencies. No, it was actually
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Speaker 3: a gut health baseline issue.
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Speaker 1: So it was like two steps behind what you thought
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Speaker 1: it was.
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Speaker 3: Yes, exactly. So first I was like, it's vitamin deficiencies.
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Speaker 3: Then as time went on and I got educated. I
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Speaker 3: was like, it's a gut health It's actually a gut
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Speaker 3: health issue.
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Speaker 1: I was reading that doctors weren't listening to you at
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Speaker 1: the beginning, which is a too common story that here.
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Speaker 1: I was actually watching Bill Maher the other day and
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Speaker 1: he had somebody on that was saying that they had
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Speaker 1: lime disease, and he wrote a book because medicine and
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Speaker 1: the way doctors are trained in America is for the
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Speaker 1: average case, and if you skew it all from the
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Speaker 1: average case, they sometimes don't know how to treat you.
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Speaker 1: And many people's bodies are not necessarily the average average case.
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Speaker 1: You were clearly one of those. How did you get
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Speaker 1: doctors to finally listen?
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Speaker 3: I would also say that the average case is probably
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Speaker 3: like a male body, or traditionally like male body, because
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Speaker 3: even when it comes to research, you know, like medications
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Speaker 3: from like an approval perspective used to be only tested
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Speaker 3: for the most part on men and then like applied
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Speaker 3: to women's self. So for me, it was definitely a struggle,
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Speaker 3: and this is reflective of the experience of a ton
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Speaker 3: of women. I am certain not alone in this. I
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Speaker 3: had to see a lot of doctors that told me
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Speaker 3: I was just stressed out, and I just needed to
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Speaker 3: like cut back on alcohol and sleep more and get
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Speaker 3: more exercise for a long time, like a really really
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Speaker 3: long time. It took me eighteen months for a doctor
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Speaker 3: to run a simple blood panel to be able to say, oh,
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Speaker 3: you actually have like really terrible vitamin deficiencies. Eighteen months just.
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Speaker 2: For the vitamin. You must have been so frustrated.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, But I mean it's normal for I think women
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Speaker 3: specifically to go to the doctor and have complaints and
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Speaker 3: not necessarily be ignored, but that like myself be experiencing
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Speaker 3: a lot of low grade symptoms that one kind of
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Speaker 3: doctor is not necessarily connecting to a different part of
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Speaker 3: the body or a different practice because a lot of
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Speaker 3: like published research just hasn't gotten that far, or what
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Speaker 3: they've learned in medical school is like very focused on
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Speaker 3: like their area of expertise, right, you know. So I
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Speaker 3: never went to a gynecologist who was like, oh, like
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Speaker 3: you keep getting recurrent east infections, you have a gut
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Speaker 3: health problem. Right. It really took like trial and error
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Speaker 3: and doing my own research and education over time, and
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Speaker 3: ultimately getting experts involved in my business that did have
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Speaker 3: a much more modern and holistic perspective on wellness and
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Speaker 3: how different parts of our bodies are connected. And so
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Speaker 3: once I realized to my earlier point that I had
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Speaker 3: a gut health issue, and that your gut microbiome communicates
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Speaker 3: with your vaginal microbiome, it's called quorum sensing your bacteria
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Speaker 3: and your tummy. Literally talk to your bacteria in your
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Speaker 3: vagina and be like, oh, things are great in the stomach,
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Speaker 3: they should also be great in the vagina. Or oh,
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Speaker 3: my god, we just took an antibiotic and all of
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Speaker 3: the bacteria here are wiped out, so they better get
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Speaker 3: wiped out in the vagina too. Like the human body
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Speaker 3: is fascinating, but basically, to try to make a complicated
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Speaker 3: picture more simple, I just realized and discovered that the
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Speaker 3: gut is your master microbiome. It is connected to so
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Speaker 3: many different parts of your body. And if you can
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Speaker 3: take care of and heal your gut, you can take
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Speaker 3: care and heal of a lot of these secondary things.
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Speaker 3: So if you heal your gut, most likely your BV
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Speaker 3: is going to go away, or your UTIs or your
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Speaker 3: depression because it's all connected.
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Speaker 1: That is so wild, because you always hear that so
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Speaker 1: much of disease right, Like, disease starts in the gut,
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Speaker 1: but I honestly had no idea that the gut was
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Speaker 1: linked to your vaginal health so closely.
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Speaker 3: Yes, this is actually like everything that my book that's
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Speaker 3: coming out at the end of the year is about.
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Speaker 3: My book comes out on December twenty seventh, and it
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Speaker 3: goes into detail for the very first time. It's like
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Speaker 3: the first book of its kind that is a five
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Speaker 3: week women's health plan to help your gut, brain, vaginal health.
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Speaker 3: But it also demystifies the science between the GBB axis
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Speaker 3: is what we're calling it, the gut brain vagina axis
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Speaker 3: for the first time. So it's the first book to
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Speaker 3: ever come out to explain to women in like a straightforward,
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Speaker 3: easy to understand way that your gut is connected to
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Speaker 3: the brain and the vagina through the endocrine system, the
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Speaker 3: immune system, and your nervous system, so the vegus nerve
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Speaker 3: runs through them all. There's mucous pathways that are connected
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Speaker 3: to all three. And then your bacteria, your microbiome actually
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Speaker 3: is sort of like the master control of your endocrine system,
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Speaker 3: and it tells different parts of your body like hey
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Speaker 3: make hormones, hey send them here, Like, did you know
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Speaker 3: that ninety five percent of your happy hormone serotonin are
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Speaker 3: actually created in your gut? Yeah? Fascinating.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So, I mean this kind of sounds like a
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Speaker 1: dumb question, but that's like why when you eat sugar
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Speaker 1: sometimes you feel a little down the next day.
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Speaker 3: I mean maybe, right, Like, food sensitivities have this sort
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Speaker 3: of like ongoing chain reaction in the body that creates inflammation. Basically,
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Speaker 3: a food sensitivity can create a gut health issue and
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Speaker 3: start to affect your gut lining. That's what is known
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Speaker 3: as really like leaky gut. Right, Your gut lining becomes
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Speaker 3: sort of permeable because of the things going into your
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Speaker 3: body that your body doesn't like, right, And with that permeability, toxins,
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Speaker 3: pathogens just think of like bad stuff can get through
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Speaker 3: the gut wall lining into your bloodstream and spread throughout
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Speaker 3: the rest of the body. So that's why, like you
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Speaker 3: may get arthritis as a result of eating an inflammatory food,
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Speaker 3: or you may like mentally not feel like yourself after
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Speaker 3: you have gluten right, Like, brain fog is a big
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Speaker 3: complication for people that have a gluten sensitivity, and it's because,
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Speaker 3: like I said, there's this trickle up and this trickle
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Speaker 3: down effect when you are consuming things that your gut
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Speaker 3: doesn't really like jive with, right, I.
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Speaker 1: Mean, it's pretty amazing that you basically had to heal
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Speaker 1: yourself and love wellness, which is your company was birthed
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Speaker 1: out of your pain.
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Speaker 2: I guess we should call.
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Speaker 3: It percent completely.
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Speaker 1: How long did it take you to really feel like
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Speaker 1: yourself again once you figured out what was going on?
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Speaker 3: When I first started the company and I first got
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Speaker 3: interested in supplements because mind you, like I used to
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Speaker 3: think that supplements were like snake oil. I was like,
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Speaker 3: nobody needs supplements, just like, go eat healthy food. The
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Speaker 3: reality is ninety percent of Americans have a vitamin deficiency.
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Speaker 3: And when you start to think about why do we
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Speaker 3: have vitamin deficiencies, it's probably because most of us have
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Speaker 3: a gut health issue because we live in modern times. Right.
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Speaker 3: The food that we eat has preservatives in it has
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Speaker 3: sugar in it, We eat gluten, We drink alcohol, we
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Speaker 3: take intacids, we take antibiotics. All of those things can
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Speaker 3: disrupt your gut microbiome and your gut health. Right, So
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Speaker 3: when you like think about just how you exist day
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Speaker 3: to day, like, chances are high that like you have
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Speaker 3: a gut health issue, and maybe you have a vitamin
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Speaker 3: deficiency issue like ninety percent of your fellow Americans. But
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Speaker 3: like I used to think supplements were like kind of
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Speaker 3: bs until I realized that, you know, just existing as
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Speaker 3: a human in this country and my body every single
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Speaker 3: day really required me to supplement my body because food
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Speaker 3: is just not what it was and we're just not
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Speaker 3: the same with humans we were one hundred years ago.
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 1: I was so happy that you said that because I
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Speaker 1: always felt the same way.
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Speaker 2: I would like, just eat.
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Speaker 1: Spinach, eat your greens, eat, you know, just eat for
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Speaker 1: your body. And because of this interview, I actually did
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Speaker 1: a panel and so I'm looking forward to seeing it
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Speaker 1: comes out. But I just asked my doctor for like
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Speaker 1: a regular vitamin panel.
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Speaker 2: She took my blood.
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Speaker 3: It was very easy, amazing, and I love that for you. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: it's it's a lot more common now to get blood
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Speaker 3: panels because I think, you know, the education on the
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Speaker 3: internet has really evolved in the past like six seven years.
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Speaker 3: Like when I first started the company, people that wrote
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Speaker 3: about it and the press made fun of me and
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Speaker 3: made fun of the company. It was like, Lol, she's
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Speaker 3: making vaginal health products. And now the narrative has completely
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Speaker 3: shifted because so much science and research has been done
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Speaker 3: on you know, the gut women's health at this point
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Speaker 3: to show that you know, what we originally created is
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Speaker 3: really innovative and valid. And so you know, now you
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Speaker 3: can more easily go to Google and type in like
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Speaker 3: teach me about vaginal pH and good information will actually
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Speaker 3: come up, right, or talk to me about my gut
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Speaker 3: microbiome and good information will come up versus years and
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Speaker 3: years ago when you would be on like the ninth
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Speaker 3: page of Reddit, like in weird forums, getting questionable information
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Speaker 3: from strangers on the internet.
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Speaker 1: You know, So, what were some of the I know
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Speaker 1: you mentioned you don't have an alarm, so you're really
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Speaker 1: getting good sleep. What are some of the other changes
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Speaker 1: you made to your routine?
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Speaker 3: So you know, for me, I really do try to
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Speaker 3: focus on gut health, and so for me, dietary changes
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Speaker 3: have been one of the most important ways that I
17:29
Speaker 3: have changed my overall health, and that like leads to
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Speaker 3: improvements in each part of your day. Right, you wake
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Speaker 3: up happier, you are more arrested. You know, you're more
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Speaker 3: focused at work, You actually have energy to exercise, you
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Speaker 3: actually have the motivation and willpower to continue to make
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Speaker 3: good food choices. And so for me, like a diet
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Speaker 3: that is focused on anti inflammatory foods really, to me
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Speaker 3: is kind of the most important baseline thing that I do.
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Speaker 3: Move is incredibly important, but it's about mindful movement. I
18:04
Speaker 3: don't do like crazy high intensity cardio anymore. Like I
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Speaker 3: have been walking and like doing light weightlifting, and my
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Speaker 3: weight has been better managed in the last year since
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Speaker 3: I made that change to my fitness routine than it
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Speaker 3: has been in like ten or fifteen years, right. And
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Speaker 3: then supplementing is really really important. I think about probiotics.
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Speaker 3: It's kind of like the new multivitamin. It's obviously important
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Speaker 3: to take a multi vitamin every day because we just
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Speaker 3: what we just learned about vume and efficiencies and how
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Speaker 3: many people have them. But I think about probiotics as
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Speaker 3: like the new multivitamin and sort of like the new
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Speaker 3: daily line of defense because of all the things that
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Speaker 3: we are putting in and on our bodies every single day, right,
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Speaker 3: and how many of those things can be so disruptive
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Speaker 3: to your most precious microbiome, that is this like living,
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Speaker 3: breathing entity within you that controls so much of your body.
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Speaker 1: If somebody is new to the supplement world, new to
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Speaker 1: love wellness, they go to your website, what do you
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Speaker 1: recommend that like the average person take sure.
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Speaker 3: So we like to start with gut health, right, you
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Speaker 3: can sort of go through like a self check, right,
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Speaker 3: like do I have like mood or concentration issues, Do
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Speaker 3: I have poop problems? Do I have vaginal or urinary
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Speaker 3: tract issues? And those are like the three like main
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Speaker 3: categories that we really focus on from a product perspective
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Speaker 3: at the company. And if you answer yes to any
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Speaker 3: of those questions, chances are high that like you could
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Speaker 3: do some work on your gut health as kind of
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Speaker 3: like the first point of entry. So we have a
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Speaker 3: great probiotic it's called Gut Feelings probiotics, and that formula
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Speaker 3: is actually a prebiotic probiotic combination. But prebiotics is just
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Speaker 3: a fancy term for fiber. Really, Yeah, fiber is just
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Speaker 3: a foods, yeah, And probiotics is just a fancy term
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Speaker 3: for live bacteria. Yes, So a pre probiotic formula is
20:04
Speaker 3: a great formula because it basically provides the life bacteria
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Speaker 3: within a little capsule with a food source. So it
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Speaker 3: kind of is like the gasoline to like keep them
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Speaker 3: going right as they like sit on the shelf at
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Speaker 3: Target and wait for you to buy them. Because ultimately,
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Speaker 3: you want your bacteria, once it's in your body to
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Speaker 3: go through its life cycle, So you want it actually
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Speaker 3: to die and ferment and become a post biotic because
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Speaker 3: post biotics play a role in gut health as well.
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Speaker 3: It helps support your gut wall lining and it helps
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Speaker 3: with community, can help with weight management. So you want
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Speaker 3: your bacteria to kind of guaranteed make it through the
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Speaker 3: life cycle. So I definitely recommend any probiotic formula for
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Speaker 3: your gut be that like pre probiotic approach, and a
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Speaker 3: ton of brands make good probiotics that like match that
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Speaker 3: criteria these days, but gut feelings is a great place
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Speaker 3: to start. And then I always recommend taking a daily
20:58
Speaker 3: fiber supplement, Like fiber is so important detoxing the body
21:04
Speaker 3: via the natural way every day, so it's so so important,
21:08
Speaker 3: So like I am all about increasing fiber for everybody.
21:12
Speaker 3: And then there's a lot of like very straightforward products
21:16
Speaker 3: that we make, like by by bloat, which is like
21:19
Speaker 3: if you have pizza and creates indigestion or water weight
21:22
Speaker 3: by by bloat is like a great go to. We
21:24
Speaker 3: have our pH balancing cleanser, which is for personal care,
21:28
Speaker 3: but it really allows you to practice safe personal hygiene
21:31
Speaker 3: because its ingredient profile supports the vaginal microbiome versus a
21:36
Speaker 3: lot of old school legacy brands personal hygiene products that
21:39
Speaker 3: are full of like fragrance or like parabins. Those things
21:42
Speaker 3: are proven to kill get the bacteria and disrupt the
21:45
Speaker 3: vaginal microbiome. Right, So it's about practicing personal hygiene in
21:50
Speaker 3: a way that is safe and effective for that part
21:53
Speaker 3: of the body.
21:54
Speaker 2: It's so funny.
21:55
Speaker 1: I think I did like a toxin detox of all
21:58
Speaker 1: the products like years ago go and so many people
22:02
Speaker 1: dislike when I tell them to get rid of their fragrances,
22:05
Speaker 1: like that is the number one thing, and people really
22:08
Speaker 1: hold on to their fragrances.
22:09
Speaker 2: But there's they're awful.
22:11
Speaker 3: They're so bad. They're so bad for you. And regardless
22:15
Speaker 3: of the product, whether it's actual like like perfume, or
22:21
Speaker 3: whether it's lotion for your body or a personal care cleanser,
22:26
Speaker 3: the FDA does not require the ingredients that go into
22:30
Speaker 3: a fragrance to be listed on labels and to create
22:33
Speaker 3: a single fragrance. There could be a hundred ingredients in
22:37
Speaker 3: a product to create a single fragrance note, and most
22:41
Speaker 3: of them are synthetic. And even the ones that are
22:45
Speaker 3: not synthetic are still not great for you.
22:48
Speaker 2: They're horrible, Like, chuck them out the window.
22:52
Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. You are absolutely preaching to the
22:55
Speaker 3: choir on that.
22:58
Speaker 1: So we were all first introduced to you on the Hills,
23:01
Speaker 1: and as I was preparing for this interview, I was like,
23:04
Speaker 1: I don't want to ask her about that show as
23:07
Speaker 1: much because I know everybody must oh, it's okay, But well,
23:12
Speaker 1: I was wondering when you started your company if you
23:15
Speaker 1: felt like that helped you, were hindered you.
23:17
Speaker 3: It absolutely helped me. You know, for a long time,
23:21
Speaker 3: I was a little bit down on the entire experience
23:25
Speaker 3: really before I launched Love Wellness, because it was emotionally challenging.
23:30
Speaker 3: Right I was a kid. You're thrust into the public
23:33
Speaker 3: spotlight as the Internet is exploding and online bullying is
23:37
Speaker 3: first a thing, and you really you question yourself, right,
23:43
Speaker 3: everybody on the internet like says you're that ugly and stupid, Like,
23:46
Speaker 3: of course you're going to internalize some of that stuff
23:49
Speaker 3: and have it question, you will question your self worth
23:52
Speaker 3: and value.
23:53
Speaker 1: Right.
23:53
Speaker 3: So for a long time I was kind of down
23:55
Speaker 3: on the experience because I just thought, like, this is
23:59
Speaker 3: really challenge, Jane, for me to have people know who
24:02
Speaker 3: I am when I go out in public, you know,
24:04
Speaker 3: and like sometimes be nice to my face, but behind
24:06
Speaker 3: my back, right be saying stuff that like is very kind.
24:12
Speaker 3: So I was down on it, and I had to
24:13
Speaker 3: go through a lot of like healing and therapy and
24:17
Speaker 3: really growing up to get to a place where I
24:20
Speaker 3: understood that this has given me an invaluable platform that
24:26
Speaker 3: is worth so much, and that my experience is actually
24:30
Speaker 3: such a privileged experience to be able to communicate with
24:34
Speaker 3: so many people. Social media has democratized the entertainment industry
24:39
Speaker 3: because every individual has their own platform, right, Like, they
24:42
Speaker 3: can say whatever they want out into the void. And
24:45
Speaker 3: so it went from being like a challenging experience to
24:49
Speaker 3: one that has become invaluable to me because how would
24:54
Speaker 3: I have built this business without being on that show. Right,
24:58
Speaker 3: My education on the subject matter could still be the same,
25:02
Speaker 3: my interest in the topic could still be the same,
25:05
Speaker 3: but my ability to communicate to an audience in those
25:08
Speaker 3: early days and get my business off the ground would
25:11
Speaker 3: not have existed, and so I'm so so grateful that
25:14
Speaker 3: ultimately I did have that experience, even though sometimes that
25:18
Speaker 3: made me cry a little bit.
25:20
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry it made you.
25:22
Speaker 1: I can't even imagine at such a young age what
25:25
Speaker 1: you dealt with. I was so fascinated when I was
25:28
Speaker 1: reading that you said you weren't really willing to be vulnerable,
25:32
Speaker 1: and so you actually asked to be sort of a
25:35
Speaker 1: secondary character. So even then, at the very beginning, you
25:39
Speaker 1: had some hesitation.
25:41
Speaker 3: I always had hesitation. And you know, it's interesting because
25:45
Speaker 3: my mom always had hesitation, and I think so her
25:49
Speaker 3: adult perspective, she kind of shared it with me and
25:52
Speaker 3: was like, you know, we don't know exactly what this
25:55
Speaker 3: is going to be, so like, let's be careful. But
25:58
Speaker 3: I think I was also young and I was just
26:00
Speaker 3: frankly embarrassed to go on dates on national television, Like
26:03
Speaker 3: I didn't know how to do that or how to
26:05
Speaker 3: handle myself right. And so in a lot of ways,
26:10
Speaker 3: that request to sort of stand to the side, I
26:14
Speaker 3: think helped me in so many unforeseen ways because of it.
26:18
Speaker 3: It did allow me to kind of create my own
26:21
Speaker 3: narrative as I walked away from the show. Right.
26:23
Speaker 1: For what it's worth, I always felt like you had
26:25
Speaker 1: so much self efficacy, like you were a real girl always,
26:29
Speaker 1: So I think it was nice to see on the show.
26:32
Speaker 3: Thank you, that's nice. But yeah, I mean it's like
26:35
Speaker 3: the same thing about like child stars, which I was
26:37
Speaker 3: not one, and you know, but like you like have
26:40
Speaker 3: a child star. Yeah, but like you know, it's like
26:42
Speaker 3: you have a child star and a role and it's
26:44
Speaker 3: hard for them to ever break out of that and
26:46
Speaker 3: like come into themselves in a public way as somebody else.
26:51
Speaker 3: Like I just was always fearful of that. Not that
26:55
Speaker 3: I could predict the future, but I did know that,
26:58
Speaker 3: like I'm not always going to be on this show,
27:01
Speaker 3: and so I don't know, maintaining my own autonomy to
27:05
Speaker 3: a certain degree was really important to me from the
27:07
Speaker 3: very beginning.
27:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you feel I mean, it seems like it
27:11
Speaker 1: all played out in.
27:12
Speaker 2: Such a beautiful way.
27:13
Speaker 1: Are you happy and feeling good about where you're at now?
27:18
Speaker 3: Yes? I think part of that comes from really being
27:22
Speaker 3: willing to like put myself out there though and take risks. Yeah,
27:27
Speaker 3: that's one thing that being on TV really taught me
27:30
Speaker 3: how to do it. Taught me how to have really
27:33
Speaker 3: thick skin and be really strong in my mind, right,
27:39
Speaker 3: because if there's like so many voices saying so many
27:42
Speaker 3: things about you, good, bad, whatever, for years and years
27:45
Speaker 3: and years, you have to be able to find yourself
27:48
Speaker 3: through that. And you know, as a result, you know,
27:53
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm like iron will and so the
27:57
Speaker 3: things that I apply myself to, I'm really like serious
28:00
Speaker 3: about and you know, try to follow through on.
28:05
Speaker 2: That's so awesome.
28:06
Speaker 1: Okay, So we're going to do True or False Women's
28:08
Speaker 1: Health Edition.
28:10
Speaker 3: Okay, oh god, well I know the answers. Okay, I'm nervous.
28:14
Speaker 2: No, you definitely will.
28:15
Speaker 1: I don't know the answers, which is why I'm asking.
28:17
Speaker 1: So Number one, vaginas should always have a fruity smell.
28:21
Speaker 3: Oh that's false, very false.
28:24
Speaker 1: Vaginal discharge is always because of a yeast infection.
28:27
Speaker 3: False.
28:29
Speaker 1: What I eat doesn't impact my sex life?
28:32
Speaker 3: False? Should we elaborate, Yeah, because it goes back to
28:38
Speaker 3: our earlier conversation, like what you eat in the gut
28:41
Speaker 3: actually affects your brain, your mood, and your brain is
28:46
Speaker 3: actually a very important organ when it comes to sex.
28:49
Speaker 3: So think about it like that.
28:52
Speaker 1: Number four semen does not affect vaginal flora. False antibiotics
28:58
Speaker 1: cause yeast infections sometimes true, I can.
29:02
Speaker 2: Get a used infection from scented soaps.
29:05
Speaker 3: Correct, that's true.
29:08
Speaker 1: Okay, And then a quick rapid fire about you, Miss
29:10
Speaker 1: low Bosworth.
29:11
Speaker 2: A wellness trend that is worth the hype.
29:15
Speaker 3: Taking a nice relaxing bath every single day.
29:20
Speaker 2: I like that one. You're most used emoji.
29:24
Speaker 3: I most used emoji. Let me pull up my phone,
29:27
Speaker 3: hold on. I have so many actually right now, I'm
29:31
Speaker 3: really into the roller skate emoji. Okay, it's one of
29:34
Speaker 3: my It's one of my favorites, the roller skate emotion.
29:37
Speaker 3: You're using it for just anything, absolutely anything. It sort
29:41
Speaker 3: of is it just means whatever you want it to mean.
29:44
Speaker 2: Okay, it's like a retro throwback. I'll take it.
29:46
Speaker 1: One implementable health strategy that anyone can do, no matter
29:50
Speaker 1: the budget.
29:51
Speaker 3: Just drink more water.
29:53
Speaker 2: Your go to motto.
29:55
Speaker 3: My go to motto. One of one of them is
29:58
Speaker 3: this is sort of like a well this could be
30:00
Speaker 3: applied to business and your personal life. Loose lips sink ships.
30:06
Speaker 2: That is a really good one.
30:07
Speaker 1: Your most valued piece of advice from therapy.
30:10
Speaker 3: What if versus what is And that is a sort
30:15
Speaker 3: of like anxiety tool that you can implement. What if
30:19
Speaker 3: is anxious thinking? What if? What is is thinking that's
30:23
Speaker 3: based in the in the moment like and grounded in reality.
30:26
Speaker 3: So if you're like having a freak out, just start
30:29
Speaker 3: to think to yourself, what is what is happening right now?
30:33
Speaker 3: Is that I'm sitting right here doing this podcast with you, Danielle.
30:37
Speaker 3: What if thinking is like, oh my god, is this
30:40
Speaker 3: dinner that I'm going to later with these people I
30:42
Speaker 3: don't know going to go good or bad?
30:45
Speaker 2: Thank you for sharing that. I've never heard that and
30:47
Speaker 2: I really really like that.
30:49
Speaker 3: Yes, what is versus? What if thinking?
30:53
Speaker 1: Okay, a book that's changed your life, something you think
30:56
Speaker 1: everyone should read?
30:57
Speaker 3: All right, it's going to be my own book, Love
30:59
Speaker 3: Yourself Well, and it is a book that has helped
31:04
Speaker 3: change my gut, brain, vaginal health and can change yours
31:08
Speaker 3: too in five weeks.
31:10
Speaker 2: What is the smartest decision you've ever made?
31:13
Speaker 3: Oh, to start my business?
31:16
Speaker 1: Okay, I always do a pretty smart question sending these
31:19
Speaker 1: to you, but since we're virtual, just tell me when
31:21
Speaker 1: to stop stop. What's something you wish people could see
31:26
Speaker 1: about you that they don't see at first glance.
31:29
Speaker 3: Hmm, that I am like much funnier and weirder than
31:34
Speaker 3: I think it seems on social media. I always pose
31:38
Speaker 3: I'm like not smiling. I'm like, I'm actually like a
31:40
Speaker 3: nice person. Well, why don't you like smile more on
31:43
Speaker 3: the internet?
31:44
Speaker 1: You know what's cool though, as an outsider, you actually do.
31:47
Speaker 2: Come off that way.
31:48
Speaker 3: Oh okay, that's nice.
31:55
Speaker 1: I want to thank the people that make the show possible.
31:58
Speaker 1: Colleen O'Neill, Jill Salama, Hary O'Keefe, and Phil speed Tech. Okay,
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Speaker 1: you know what time it is. Today's a good day.
32:05
Speaker 1: To have a good day. I'll see you next week.