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400+ Anti-LGBTQ Bills: Why Pride Matters More Than Ever | This Gay Week · The Karel Show

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  Speaker 3: Happy Thursday, June fourth, It is the Correl Show.
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  Speaker 3: That's got Jacobson. He's in Ukraine.
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  Speaker 3: All right, welcome to the Correl Show.
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  Speaker 4: We're vertical today who with Scott Jacobson in Ukraine in Kiev,
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  Speaker 3: In the world.
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  Speaker 4: But before we begin, Scott, once again, this week we
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  Speaker 4: heard bombing and Kiev twelve dead.
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  Speaker 3: Blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 4: I'm worried to death that you're buried under the rubble
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  Speaker 4: in some apartment complex somewhere, which is not a good
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  Speaker 4: look for anybody. So and you're right, my shirt matches
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  Speaker 4: your walls, which is fabulous. So what's up where you're.
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  Speaker 5: At several dead, more injured. Primarily, the big issue is
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  Speaker 5: I may have mentioned the last session, is the fact
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  Speaker 5: that the things I get through the defenses here tend
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  Speaker 5: to be missile's missiles, particularly ballistic missiles. The anti drone
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  Speaker 5: drones or anti drone technology tends to be very sophisticated here.
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  Speaker 5: So at the absolute lowest end, now seventy percent KOT knockdown,
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  Speaker 5: typically you're talking ninety percent or more. So the real
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  Speaker 5: threats are the ballistic missiles and those two heavy damage.
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  Speaker 5: I was up maybe around one to two a m.
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  Speaker 5: And the bombing went on for several hours. That was
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  Speaker 5: the second biggest of a Mormon that I've experienced in
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  Speaker 5: all of my time here.
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  Speaker 4: And do you see do you sing while it's Do
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  Speaker 4: you sing while it's happening? All the rockets wrecks.
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  Speaker 3: The bombs bursting. Is that beautiful for you? The rockets
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  Speaker 3: red glare and the bombs bursting in air?
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  Speaker 5: Because I've been saying an antison finish, I've.
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  Speaker 4: Maintained our national anthem sucks because it glorifies war. You're
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  Speaker 4: sitting there with the rockets, red glare and the bombs
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  Speaker 4: bursting in air.
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  Speaker 3: And it's not fun, is it. It's not a good
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  Speaker 3: not a good thing.
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  Speaker 5: No. I mean those are the two times when I've
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  Speaker 5: gone it could be three walls of protection into the
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  Speaker 5: bathroom a week or more ago.
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  Speaker 3: That's like to wear three condoms Jesus Christ.
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  Speaker 5: I slept in the bathroom that night, and then I
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  Speaker 5: stayed maybe a quarter of the night in the bathroom
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  Speaker 5: during the June second morning bombardments. I have slept in
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  Speaker 5: a bathroom before directly hits You're likely dead.
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  Speaker 4: But I have slept in a bathroom before, but only
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  Speaker 4: been passing out hugging the toilet. I have never willfully
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  Speaker 4: slept in a bathroom before. Well, then, you guys, not
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  Speaker 4: you guys, but you might as well be Ukrainian. Now
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  Speaker 4: you've been there's a slava Ukraine. You've been there so long.
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  Speaker 4: But your response was the Ukraine's response was to bomb
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  Speaker 4: Vladimir Putin's hometown. I don't think he's going to take
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  Speaker 4: kindly to that.
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  Speaker 5: No, but this is sort of an extension of the
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  Speaker 5: war when it's gone long long enough, and then targeting
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  Speaker 5: of various facilities by Ukrainians, particularly oil refineries and oil facilities,
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  Speaker 5: which they euphemistically call in form sanctions essentially on the
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  Speaker 5: Russian economy, because the oil revenue is the Russian economy,
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  Speaker 5: as Garry Kasparov has been saying for maybe two decades
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  Speaker 5: an hour or more, and that is the main funding
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  Speaker 5: of the war against Ukraine. So when they target that,
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  Speaker 5: it becomes an informal sanction.
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  Speaker 4: Do the people there ever, do they think this is
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  Speaker 4: ever going to end? It just seems unending now, it
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  Speaker 4: just seems like an unending war.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, So mister Bhudanov is Bhutanov. Yes, mister Budanov. Fron harcsttrick.
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  Speaker 5: Mister Budanov, a sort of a major figure politically in
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  Speaker 5: this country, noted that a peace steal or an end
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  Speaker 5: of the war is realistic before the winter, probably because
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  Speaker 5: the significant costs are now reaching the rich, the oligarchs
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  Speaker 5: and the Russian Federation, in addition to it being unignorable
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  Speaker 5: to those sectors of the Russian people who's parts of
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  Speaker 5: the society. And then you see the huge plumes of
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  Speaker 5: black smoke from the refineries being bombed, right so, and
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  Speaker 5: they only produce maybe two hundred or more missiles a
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  Speaker 5: month in the last two attacks that I was here for.
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  Speaker 5: They used seventy or so for the June second morning
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  Speaker 5: and then ninety for the May four morning, so they
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  Speaker 5: used most of the month's production capacity in two mornings.
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  Speaker 5: That's why they're quite significant.
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  Speaker 4: We're having that problem ourself because of Iran. I read
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  Speaker 4: yesterday that the United States is it's going to take
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  Speaker 4: us five years to rebuild the stockpile that we've wasted
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  Speaker 4: in Iran.
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  Speaker 4: Scott Jacobson is my guest. We are doing this gay Week.
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  Speaker 4: He is with the good Man Project. He is a
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  Speaker 4: good Man and we are He is with the good
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  Speaker 4: Man Project, and we do this called this Gay Week
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  Speaker 4: thanks to the SoundCloud listeners on Progressive Voices. You make
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  Speaker 4: it number one every time we do it. Before we
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  Speaker 4: get into it. I just want to give Scott a
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  Speaker 4: little primer on other things. I know he's picked the
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  Speaker 4: stories this week, so he'll tell me a story and
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  Speaker 4: then we'll talk about it. But I just want to
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  Speaker 4: give him a little idea about why we still need
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  Speaker 4: Pride Month in the United States, because it is Pride Month,
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  Speaker 4: and a lot of states, Arkansas, Tennessee and a few
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  Speaker 4: others are declaring it nuclear or family Month because they
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  Speaker 4: want to try to squelch Pride Months. Yeah, well it's
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  Speaker 4: I would laugh, but it's not funny. They're trying to
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  Speaker 4: erase LGBTQ visibility. They're not alone. As of early twenty
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  Speaker 4: twenty six, twenty seven states had enacted laws banning access
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  Speaker 4: to gender affirming care for trans youth, affecting about fifty
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  Speaker 4: percent of transgendered youth ages thirteen to seventeen. Seventeen states
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  Speaker 4: prohibit Medicaid funds from covering gender affirming care for miners,
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  Speaker 4: affecting two hundred and seventy four thousand, three hundred trans youth.
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  Speaker 4: Twenty nine states have laws restricting transgender students participation in
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  Speaker 4: school sports, affecting fifty three percent of trans youth ages
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  Speaker 4: thirteen to seventeen. Ten states have laws restricting or prohibiting
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  Speaker 4: gender affirming pronouns in schools or public facilities, affecting one
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  Speaker 4: hundred and seventy thousand trans youth. Several states have passed
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  Speaker 4: restrictions on bathrooms, locker rooms, dorms, prisons, and public school
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  Speaker 4: facilities base on sex assigned at birth or state defined
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  Speaker 4: biological sex, which is really scary when the state defines
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  Speaker 4: what biological sex is. Some are blocked in court, but
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  Speaker 4: the political intent is clear removed trans people from public life.
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  Speaker 4: States have restricted classroom discussions of sexual orientation and gender identity,
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  Speaker 4: especially in lower grades, but often extending into broader school policies.
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  Speaker 4: The laws are chilling teachers, removing LGBTQ visibility, and pushing
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  Speaker 4: queer students back into the closet. LGBTQ themed books, especially
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  Speaker 4: books about trans youth, queer families, race, sex education, and
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  Speaker 4: coming of age stories, have been targeted heavily through school
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  Speaker 4: board and state level action for banning. Several states attempted
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  Speaker 4: or pass laws targeting drag shows under adult performance language.
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  Speaker 4: Some were blocked or narrowed by the courts, but they
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  Speaker 4: contributed to a broader campaign portraying LGBTQ expression is dangerous
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  Speaker 4: to children. Some states have moved to restrict changes to
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  Speaker 4: birth certificates, drivers, last night school records, or any other
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  Speaker 4: identity documents. The goal is to make gender transition legally invisible.
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  Speaker 4: There has been a continued push to let businesses, medical providers,
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  Speaker 4: adoption agency, schools, and public contractors refuse LGBTQ people. In
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  Speaker 4: twenty twenty five, federal executive orders targeted gender affirming care, education,
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  Speaker 4: military service, and legal recognition for transgendered people, and in
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  Speaker 4: June twenty twenty five, the Supreme Court upheld Tennessee's ban,
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  Speaker 4: finding it did not violate the fourteenth Amendment of equal
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  Speaker 4: protection many states. Now the bands have remained in place.
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  Speaker 4: Twenty three states had explicit laws protecting LGBTQ people from
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  Speaker 4: discrimination in employment, schools, and public accommodations, down from thirty
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  Speaker 4: two states. So we have gone extremely backwards. And then
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  Speaker 4: yesterday a Republican lawmaker, in response to them naming the
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  Speaker 4: renaming Pride Month nuclear Family Month in their state, a
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  Speaker 4: Tennessee lawmaker actually went on true social and posted homosexuality
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  Speaker 4: has no place in American culture.
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  Speaker 3: Just said it out loud, just just.
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  Speaker 4: Period, not not oh, you know, they don't deserve this
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  Speaker 4: or that. But simply said, and this is a lawmaker,
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  Speaker 4: this is a person in government that's elected, said that
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  Speaker 4: homosexuality has no place in American culture. So that's why
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  Speaker 4: we still need pride months. That's why it is still
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  Speaker 4: going on. And that's the state of gay in the
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  Speaker 4: US right now. So you picked the stories this week,
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  Speaker 4: so lay one on me for one of which I covered,
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  Speaker 4: by the way, about the transgendered band in the military.
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  Speaker 4: There's been some movement on that too. It's the one
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  Speaker 4: about the US Court. Basically, what the US Court has
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  Speaker 4: said is you can't kick trans people out that are
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  Speaker 4: already in the military, but you can stop any new
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  Speaker 4: ones from coming in the military. But for the moment,
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  Speaker 4: the US Court has blocked the Pentagon from removing transgendered
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  Speaker 4: troops for now. That does not mean that they can't
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  Speaker 4: stop them from joining. They can, but the ones that
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  Speaker 4: are in the military right now they can't kick out.
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  Speaker 4: That is important for several reasons. Finances have been on
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  Speaker 4: my mind of late, and you know, how I'm gonna live,
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  Speaker 4: How I'm gonna survive. A lot of people, including trans people,
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  Speaker 4: go into the military, not just to defend the country.
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  Speaker 4: But as a career, you know, being in the military
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  Speaker 4: is a career, and when you're in a career, you
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  Speaker 4: like to think about things like your retirement home, you know,
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  Speaker 4: buying opportunities, grants, loans, those sort of things, medical care.
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  Speaker 4: And so if you're trans and you're in the military
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  Speaker 4: now and you're just kicked out, you won't.
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  Speaker 3: Get those benefits.
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  Speaker 4: But if you're able to serve your whole term that
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  Speaker 4: you signed up for, then you'll get the benefits. So
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  Speaker 4: the court saying, hey, you cannot kick trans people out
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  Speaker 4: right now. You can block others from getting in, but
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  Speaker 4: you can't kick the ones that are in out, that
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  Speaker 4: actually is going to help make sure that the trans
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  Speaker 4: people that are in the military now will ultimately get
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  Speaker 4: the benefits owed and deserved to them for their service.
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  Speaker 5: Another big factor is with the military health structure. The
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  Speaker 5: longer someone is in, the more seniority they have in
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  Speaker 5: the military, so they gain further authority, and that actually
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  Speaker 5: may provide so institutional leverage for any violations of equality.
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  Speaker 5: So to say it is absolute, as we've seen with
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  Speaker 5: the firings of very high ranking officials in the military.
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  Speaker 5: Che mystery saith, but This is good in terms of
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  Speaker 5: representation and protections because you have a higher and higher
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  Speaker 5: ranked advocates essentially because it existentially impacts on them too.
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  Speaker 3: It's all fucked up to me.
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  Speaker 4: I maintain gays, lesbians and trans to just get out
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  Speaker 4: of the military, serve your country some other way.
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  Speaker 3: Right now.
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  Speaker 4: I said that before under don't ask, don't tell. If
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  Speaker 4: you can't be who you are, be open and be
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  Speaker 4: respected by it. You're basically almost you have pledged to
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  Speaker 4: give your life.
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  Speaker 3: You know, if.
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  Speaker 4: Something happens and if you can't be respected and treated
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  Speaker 4: like every other soldier, get the fuck out. You know
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  Speaker 4: the military doesn't deserve you. And you know there's a
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  Speaker 4: big thing there, like does the country deserve gays and
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  Speaker 4: lesbians serving?
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  Speaker 3: And right now it does not.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it doesn't. The United States does not warrant
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  Speaker 4: gay people, trans people, by people putting their lives on
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  Speaker 4: the line for this country with its current policies, it
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  Speaker 4: doesn't warrant it. If I am gay, I would not
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  Speaker 4: fight for this country. I would not not not in
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  Speaker 4: the state that it's in now, because they don't respect me.
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  Speaker 4: They wouldn't want me to fight for them. Obviously, the
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  Speaker 4: military is full up. They don't need more people, they
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  Speaker 4: don't need gays, they don't need trans Now we know
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  Speaker 4: the opposite of that is true, and that they're bleeding
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  Speaker 4: people at the seams and they really need people to
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  Speaker 4: sign up, but they just keep making these discriminary practices.
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  Speaker 4: So you know, if I were gazed, i'd say, it's
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  Speaker 4: say on the military aid, join the peace Corps, or
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  Speaker 4: do something else. But you don't have to join the military,
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  Speaker 4: but that's just me.
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  Speaker 3: I'm petty.
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  Speaker 5: Or come to Canada and join our military.
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  Speaker 3: Well we're gonna take you over again, didn't you hear?
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  Speaker 5: Of course?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yesterday they had a referendum in Alberta.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah did that fail?
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  Speaker 5: Of course?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well you say, of course, you know.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, but Trump yesterday again spoke of annexing Canada, like
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  Speaker 4: like you guys would just sit there and let that happen,
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  Speaker 4: and like the Brits, because let's remember it's pretty Columbia.
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  Speaker 4: You know, the sovereign is still the king, you know,
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  Speaker 4: so like the bridge would just sit there and let
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  Speaker 4: us and next Canada. But he seems to think, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I could do it, but he's demented. The poor thing
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  Speaker 4: is sickest can being demented and we have to suffer with.
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  Speaker 3: It all right, next next six And I just told you,
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  Speaker 3: and I just told you why we need it.
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  Speaker 5: I know, with parades and parties and community events, celebrity
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  Speaker 5: LGBTQ plus people. So celebrations and organizers have emphasizing the
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  Speaker 5: roots in Stonewall and quote acts of resistance unquote. So
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  Speaker 5: there have been major celebrations in Los Angeles, Chicago, San Francisco,
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  Speaker 5: and New York. If I recall correctly, when I travel
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  Speaker 5: the United States on Amtrak, I believe I traveled to
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  Speaker 5: all of those cities except San Francisco.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, ground zero.
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  Speaker 4: Well, we hope Pride is this weekend, and they appointed
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  Speaker 4: Kathy Hilton as the ground Marshall, and everybody is apoplectic
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  Speaker 4: about it. They're like, what the fuck does Kathy Hilton
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  Speaker 4: have to do with being a Grand Marshal Again, Well,
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  Speaker 4: she's an ally and she supported the abbey. The Abbey
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  Speaker 4: is mostly a straight bar. Now they act like it's
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  Speaker 4: this big bastion of gainness.
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  Speaker 3: It's not.
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  Speaker 4: The Abbey has gone almost straight. And Kathy Hilton's claim
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  Speaker 4: to fame as she birthed Paris Hilton, I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 4: uh and Oh, she's an ally, so that gets you
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  Speaker 4: to be a grand marshal in the parade.
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  Speaker 3: Now just because you'll like us. Oh, look a straight
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  Speaker 3: person that likes us, let's put her in the parade.
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  Speaker 4: So that's weho this weekend. They're also paying a bunch
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  Speaker 4: of music artists that they shouldn't be. I really feel,
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  Speaker 4: and this is going to be an unpopular opinion with
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  Speaker 4: the gays, which I'm not foreign to, the best thing
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  Speaker 4: to happen for the gay pride festivals has been for
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  Speaker 4: corporate sponsorship to dry up. Gay Pride festivals got too
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  Speaker 4: big for their breeches. They became these big concerts with
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  Speaker 4: Mariah Carey, and she has done Pride by the Way,
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  Speaker 4: and and all these other people. If they want to
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  Speaker 4: come for free, fine, if Mariah's in town wants to
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  Speaker 4: drop by and do a few numbers for her gay aunt, fine,
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  Speaker 4: But paying Mariah paying you know whoever, No pay David
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  Speaker 4: Archiletta instead. He's gay, you know, but and not as
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  Speaker 4: much as Mariah. So I really believe that the lack
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  Speaker 4: of funding is the best thing to happen to gay
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  Speaker 4: pride festivals. It's making them contract and reevaluate what they
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  Speaker 4: are what their purpose is and why they exist.
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  Speaker 3: The first Pride was a riot June twenty eighth, nineteen
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  Speaker 3: sixty nine, and.
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  Speaker 4: We have forgotten that it's not just a time to
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  Speaker 4: party and drink and go see Mariah Carey. It really
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  Speaker 4: is a time for political rallies, for candidates to come
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  Speaker 4: and talk about their platforms, and for people in the
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  Speaker 4: community to speak to the community, the leaders of the
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  Speaker 4: HRC and Glad and all of them. Instead it's become
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  Speaker 4: beerd tents, dance tents, big artists performing, and late night
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  Speaker 4: drunken parties. That is not what Pride is supposed to be.
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  Speaker 4: So I think contracting not having the money they used
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  Speaker 4: to have. Like Long Beach, the best thing that happened
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  Speaker 4: to Long Beach two weeks ago was for Pride to
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  Speaker 4: be canceled the actual festival because they had a smaller one.
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  Speaker 4: You know, they had a smaller one headed by Jewels
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  Speaker 4: and Delta Work at a park in Long Beach where
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  Speaker 4: the first Pride was held, by the way, and it
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  Speaker 4: was much more organic to the community, much more community focused,
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  Speaker 4: and was much less about Thelma Houston and thea Austin
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  Speaker 4: and Robin s who were going to perform and more
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  Speaker 4: about local performers who didn't charge, just showed up and performed,
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  Speaker 4: and speeches from politicians. You know, that's what this is
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  Speaker 4: supposed to be about. So I believe as we enter
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  Speaker 4: Pride Month, one of the best things has been the
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  Speaker 4: lack of corporate funding because it's made them rethink the scope,
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  Speaker 4: the size, and the purpose of what a Pride event
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  Speaker 4: really is.
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  Speaker 3: But that's just me.
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  Speaker 5: Also, in the current political climate, it's very cliching to say,
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  Speaker 5: is it not a best time or one of the
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  Speaker 5: best times to engage in political rallying through these.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, midterms are you know, primaries were yesterday all
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: over the places, including California. Midterms are in November. We
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: have Democrats have to win or the country has fucked.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: You know. If we still have a Republican House and Senate,
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: we're done. So if I were running a gay Pride festival,
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: everything would be about are you registered to vote?
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: Who are you voting for?
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: I would get the candidates out there. I beg every
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: candidate to come and do speeches right in the parade,
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: meet and greets, go and press the flesh. Yes, you know,
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: this is a time, as Donald Trump.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: Says, the gays love him?
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, if they just you think they love you
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: because you do this all the time, and you know
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: you think you're jacking off two people.
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  Speaker 3: At a party here.
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: But so, yes, now is the time for more political speeches,
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: more political rallying, less beer tents, less Mariah Carey, and
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: more peat boota judge. That's I couldn't. I just can't
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  Speaker 4: be any clearer about that, at least in my view.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: Next story next story, Bring it on.
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: Reuters. So Donald's Parliament has approved the Human Sexual Rights
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: and Family Values Bill, which must be signed by President
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: John Dromani Muhamma to take effect. It criminalizes quote, funding, sponsorship,
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: or promotion of LGBTQ acts.
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  Speaker 3: Because we're not part of families.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I love when they name these bills the family,
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: because I guess. I guess I had no parents, I
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: don't have a sister, I obviously don't have a Obviously,
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: gays are hatch like the eggs and aliens.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we we sit in.
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: A room somewhere historage originated.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well no where it's like alien We sit
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: in a room somewhere. No show.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: All right, we're back with a special half hour edition
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: of this Gay Week. No, it's like it's an alien.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: We sit in a room somewhere and then a straight
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: person comes and leans over us, and then we attach
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: ourselves to their face. That that's how, that's how the
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: gays obviously get here. You know what, fuck Ghana and
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: every other African nation that is going this route. It's
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: going to lead to your downfall because when the right
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: in America, who is funding this, by the way, when
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: they fall and they're going to and your funds dry
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: up in your country, guess what's gonna happen. A swing's
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: gonna go the other way. Because there are gay people
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: in Ghana, there are gay people in Botswana, there are
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: gay people in Nigeria. There are gay people in South Africa.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: There are gay people all over. In Nairobi, there are
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: gay I'm looking at a map of Africa as we speak,
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: and everywhere I look on their map. In the Congo,
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: there are gay fucking chimps in the Congo. There are
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: gay gorillas in the Congo. So as I am looking
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: at the map of Africa, you know what I don't see.
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: I don't see one area there that doesn't have gay people.
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: And so this notion that somehow they can make these
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: laws and gay will be gone. It's just stupid. The
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: same in the United States, they think we can make
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: these laws and suddenly trans people will just be invisible.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: Or be gone.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: No, you can't stop pride, even if you defund it,
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: and you can't stop gay, and you can't stop trans
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: and you can't stop by why Because it's human and
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: animal nature. It is natural, it is normal. It exists
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: in every country, in every demographic everywhere.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: And you can legislate all you.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: Want and rail against it all you want, and talk
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: about your fictitious deity in the sky all you want,
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: and guess what, it's not going to get rid of us.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: So we're here, we're quhere, and you're still not used
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: to it, which is amazing to me.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: But fuck, I may.
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: If there's a shout out to two people who I've
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: interviewed before who are made your advocates in Ghana. One
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: is Russell Muol who's now vice president of Humans International
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: and the founder and president of Opera Atheists, in addition
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: to Alex Kofei Donkor, who's the main runner of LGBT
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: plus Rights Ghana, the Cereal other groups. But those the
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: two that come to mind. So I people want to
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: look further into this or to sport groups to counter
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: some of these efforts, they can look into them, induy.
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: And just the fact that those groups are there prove
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: my point. Ghana can make all the laws against gays
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: it wants to, but there's gays there and they're gonna
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: be there and they can't jail them all, you know.
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's called a gay cruise. You know, you're
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: trapped on a boat with one hundred and fifty gay
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: hairrybacked men, but whatever, you know, so it's a bear cruise.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: But you know what I'm saying.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: So you know the fact that these organizations exist means
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: that guess what, they're here. That's what I will never understand.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: And especially in the United States, we now know that
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: it's about ten percent. That's you know, threety four million people.
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: We're not going anywhere. We've never gone anywhere. We've always
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: been here. We've always been in Europe, We've always been
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: in Russia, we've always been in Africa, We've always been
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: every where, and we're always going to be. This notion
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: that they can legislate against actual tax paying, law abiding citizens.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: It's amazing to me all because they're appalled at the
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: way they have sex or something. I don't even know.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: I don't even know what their problem is.
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: And the three other people that popped up for to
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  Speaker 5: add to this a few more Ebenezer Piga of Rightifi Ghana,
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: Leila Larriba of One Love, Sister's Ghana, Angel Maxine, a
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: major transgender musician activist of a Ben Ali Kim Fiazzi,
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: as well as Sister Deborah and One Love the Koube Lore.
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: Those are some names that are coming up in these
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: domains of activism.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: Too, and I'm glad they're there.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: They you know, they they because these people need help,
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: you know, and they need to feel. That's what pride
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: is about. That's what it was, why it exists so
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: you don't feel alone. So you can go show up
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: someplace and say, wow, look at all the other gays.
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: You know that, that's what it's about out and it's
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: not going to stop. If they can outlaw pride, it's
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: still going to happen.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: People will risk getting arrested, they will, you know. So
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: that's that's that all right, before we go it's killed. Yeah,
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: well yeah, and I've risked that many a time just
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: by being me, my world. Welcome to it.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: All right, we'll leave today with some cases that are
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: pending that could affect LGBTQ people.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: Let's go down the list. Go ahead, now, I may say.
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: So, pardon.
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  Speaker 3: I did?
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: Yes so to LGBT related matters. It's been court dock
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: and from Reuters. As a transnder sports case from Idaho
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: and West Virginia, conservative justices appeared inclined to uphold bands
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: on transfer athletes joining female teams. Twenty five other states
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: had some of the laws and ruling is expected but
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: late June.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: The court, yes, they will rule against gay during Pride month.
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: That's how these people are. During June, they will do
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: a transgender sports ban. You wait and see.
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: Many may consider in these sort of groups that are
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: doing this Pride month illegitimate and therefore completely dismiss it.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I consider them completely illegitimate and completely dismiss them.
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: So the quart to Colorados bound licensed counselors using quote
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: conversion unquote talk therapy with LGBT minors, treating the prohibition
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: asself as a free speech virrelation rather than a regulation
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: of professional.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I want one of those cases and that's why
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: it's going to the Supreme because the state Supreme in Colorado,
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: I believe, said that she had the right that you know,
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: it is free speech, she had the right to talk
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: to her client about conversion therapy. Didn't change the fact
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: that conversion therapy is still outlawed in Colorado. It just
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: said that as a therapist, she had the right to
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: talk to her client about that.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: We'll see how that goes. What a barbaria.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: Twenty fucking twenty six and we are talking about conversion
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: therapy to convert a human being? Why don't we have
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: straight conversion therapy?
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: Oh wait, we do. It's called whiskey.
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: Never mind, I'm sorry, I forgot it doesn't It doesn't
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: take much to make a straight person gay. It just
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: to you know, what do they say down and what
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: do they say over in the Marine Corps base over
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: in California. There, what's differ between a gamrine and a
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: straight marine A shot of Jack Daniels in a twelve
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: pack of beer. So yeah, so it doesn't take much
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: to convert straights to gays, But gata straight that's a
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: that's a bigger conversion.
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: There's one small note from the website Human Progress about
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: the legality of homosexuality catalog from the year seventeen sixty
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  Speaker 5: to twenty twenty five and the legal status the number
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: of countries as a seventeen eighty eight has nineteenth country
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: thro the time and by the time in a pretty
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  Speaker 5: continuous line up towards EGO twenty five and it was
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: one hundred and forty.
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• 29:24
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