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Super Bowl Recap, Vikings QB Options for 2026 | TSH Ep. 126 · The Skol Hop

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  Speaker 1: All right, Hey, Vikings fans, welcome in to another episode
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  Speaker 1: of the Skull Hop. I'm Evan and I'm Austin and
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  Speaker 1: we're's just a couple of dudes from Iowa. We like
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  Speaker 1: drinking beer and talking about the Vikings.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we do. And Evan, what did you think about
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  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl?
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  Speaker 1: Man? It was okay? I mean what else do you
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  Speaker 1: want me to say?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Sam Darnold has a ring and some Vikings fans
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  Speaker 2: are a little salty about it, and I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if we're among those.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, But as is usual on this podcast for the
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  Speaker 1: last three years now, we have a lot to talk
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  Speaker 1: about when it comes to the quarterback situation surrounding our
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  Speaker 1: favorite football team.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, there's some other talkers too, but quarterback is an
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  Speaker 2: every topic. So for now, if you want to check
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  Speaker 1: What Art? Well, it's a sad day. What do you mean, IV,
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  Speaker 1: there's no more football for a very long time. I
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  Speaker 1: think the day of morning.
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  Speaker 2: I think you're mistaken.
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  Speaker 1: Why is that?
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  Speaker 2: Because the Saint Louis BattleHawks kick off in less than
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  Speaker 2: two months. Atget it's coming along.
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  Speaker 1: I forgot. You're like all in on the XFL.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's the ufl uflor whatever. Yeah, yeah we are.
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  Speaker 2: We are BattleHawks fans right of sure.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, but the good news is we've we got beer
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  Speaker 1: to drink. We do have beer, and I guess we
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  Speaker 1: do have kind of football to watch.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, we're not going to suddenly turn into a
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  Speaker 2: UFL podcast, but yeah, the beer is here. Evan, what
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  Speaker 2: do we have tonight?
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  Speaker 1: You brought it. It's Birch the Brown Bear, and I
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  Speaker 1: will forever refer to this as Birch the Brown Bear
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  Speaker 1: because even though it's Birch the Bear officially from Big Grove,
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  Speaker 1: that was how we referred to it the first time
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  Speaker 1: we had this way. I don't know how long ago
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  Speaker 1: this was. We haven't been but I don't know many.
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  Speaker 2: An episode ago. It could have been one hundred episodes ago.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, but yeah, we we I think was
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  Speaker 2: it totally mistaking us, like our own fault that we
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  Speaker 2: just kept saying Birch the Brown Bear and then one
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  Speaker 2: of us was like, oh crap, it's actually just Birch
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  Speaker 2: the Bear.
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  Speaker 1: Episode twenty three, So more than one hundred episodes ago.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, Wow, that's crazy. Yeah, we've really been showing a
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  Speaker 2: lot of love to Big Grove lately, but they just
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  Speaker 2: put out so many good beers. This one is kind
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  Speaker 2: of a nostalgic beer for the school hot because you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's just really good and we've had it a couple
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  Speaker 2: This is at least the third time we've had this
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  Speaker 2: on the show. I think I feel like we've had
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  Speaker 2: it be you know, since Oh we.
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  Speaker 1: Did have it twice. Okay, yeah, we did it on
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  Speaker 1: episode thirty nine as well.
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  Speaker 2: Nice, all right, so it's the first time in a while. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: this one just it's an American brown Ale. If you
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  Speaker 2: want to hear our overall, super in depth thoughts on this,
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  Speaker 2: check out episodes twenty three and thirty nine. Uh, and
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  Speaker 2: then of course we'll talk about it a little bit
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  Speaker 2: more now, so you've already you've already poured.
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  Speaker 1: I'm ready. I'm thirsty for some beer.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead and give it a try. Well, I guess
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  Speaker 2: that's that's.
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  Speaker 1: Not how we do things.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a little out of whack. Maybe I am feeling
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  Speaker 2: the lack of football that we will have here for
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  Speaker 2: just a few weeks until the UFL starts up. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: really good brown Ale, good head retention here, School's gol.
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  Speaker 1: Solid beer.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, it's just as good as always Big Grove. I
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  Speaker 2: feel like this is one they don't brew all the time,
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  Speaker 2: which is why we've had a pretty long hiatus of
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  Speaker 2: having this one. But they should be. They should brew
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  Speaker 2: this all the time because it's really good. I would
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  Speaker 2: drink it anytime of the year. It's a good brown ale.
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  Speaker 2: It's just it's not, you know, too fluffy either way.
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  Speaker 2: It's just a really solid brown ale.
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  Speaker 1: Five.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you could throw a few back. This is a
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  Speaker 2: good Super Bowl watching beer. You know, you can throw
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  Speaker 2: a handful back during the Super Bowl. What were you drinking?
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  Speaker 2: What did you end up drinking during the Super Bowl?
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  Speaker 1: Oh? I just had some regular old cores. Okay, but
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  Speaker 1: that's kind of my default. If I've got something in
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  Speaker 1: the fridge, it's probably that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, just the nice, you know, regular cheap beers.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember what I was drinking. I think
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  Speaker 2: I had an Eddie pack from good old Big Grove
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  Speaker 2: as well. So yeah, uh, I guess we can dive
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  Speaker 2: right into it. Of Super Bowl. It was last night,
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  Speaker 2: just about twenty four hours ago, and a former Vikings
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  Speaker 2: quarterback led his team to beating a few other former
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  Speaker 2: Vikings a wide receiver and a center on the Patriots
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks won. Would it ended up being twenty nine.
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  Speaker 1: Till nine to thirteen ok Seahawks? Yep.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, that's it. We don't have a
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  Speaker 2: lot of great things to say.
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  Speaker 1: Honestly, Like the game itself wasn't that interesting. Just was
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  Speaker 1: field goal after field goal after field goal. I think
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  Speaker 1: what was the halftime score. I don't even remember that.
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  Speaker 2: It was like twelve to nothing or nine and nothing
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  Speaker 2: right at halftime. It was one of the first times
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  Speaker 2: the people I've been watching it with we actually looked
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  Speaker 2: it up, like the last time there.
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  Speaker 1: Was nine nothing and then they kicked the field goal
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  Speaker 1: coming out of halftime. We make it twelve nothing early
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  Speaker 1: in the third quarter.
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  Speaker 2: Nice, But yeah, we had looked it up to see
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  Speaker 2: like it when was the last time there was a
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  Speaker 2: Super Bowl without a touchdown in it at all? And
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  Speaker 2: if what we looked up was correct, there has never
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  Speaker 2: been a Super Bowl without a touchdown. Interesting, I think
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  Speaker 2: the closest was I think they said it was twenty
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  Speaker 2: nineteen the Patriots and the Rams. It was when Jared
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  Speaker 2: Goff was on the Rams and they went to the
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  Speaker 2: Super Bowl, and I think the Rams scored something like
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  Speaker 2: a field goal and that was it, and the Patriots
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  Speaker 2: got a very late touchdown to be you know, to
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  Speaker 2: make it so that it wasn't the only super Bowl
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  Speaker 2: without a touchdown. So yeah, we still have yet to
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  Speaker 2: have a Super Bowl without a touchdown. Each team ended
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  Speaker 2: up getting one or two, I think. But yeah, it
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  Speaker 2: was started off as a really slow game. If you're
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  Speaker 2: somebody that goes to sleep earlier, you didn't really care
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  Speaker 2: about the game at all, and you just left the
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  Speaker 2: super Bowl party early. Most of what you saw was
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  Speaker 2: not exciting.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely not like the explosive air raid offense
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  Speaker 1: that the NFL is known for. But I think a
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  Speaker 1: general statement I would make is general statement. Not very
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  Speaker 1: many people would understand where that comes from.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, probably general statement. It's a major issue if people
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  Speaker 2: don't understand that one, which your issue. Oh man, I
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  Speaker 2: guess I'm the captain of that joke. Yeah, that didn't
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  Speaker 2: quite worked.
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  Speaker 1: Into that joke anyways. What was I saying, Oh, I
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  Speaker 1: was making a general statement about how defenses are really emerging,
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  Speaker 1: I think as becoming the more dominant force in the league.
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  Speaker 1: I think I could be wrong, and I mean I've
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  Speaker 1: only been podcasting for three NFL seasons now paying closer
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  Speaker 1: attention than your casual fan would. And I feel like
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  Speaker 1: I've seen that, especially with our team, the Vikings, but
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  Speaker 1: also with other teams, that it's no longer just this
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  Speaker 1: like offense or nothing kind of thing. The defense has
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  Speaker 1: really all defenses have played big roles. So I think
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  Speaker 1: we saw that last night.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and it's interesting because just last week you
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  Speaker 2: and I were talking about it and we expected this
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  Speaker 2: to be a pretty offense heavy game.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I think both of our I don't remember exactly what
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  Speaker 2: our score predictions were, but they both were, you know,
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  Speaker 2: in the realm of you know, twenty eight to thirty
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  Speaker 2: one or something like that. I think you were actually
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  Speaker 2: a little bit less high on the Patriots offensive ability
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  Speaker 2: if I remember right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, which turned out to be somewhat correct.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean their offense really couldn't get anything going.
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  Speaker 2: So but yeah, I mean that first half especially, it
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  Speaker 2: felt like like you just said, the offenses just couldn't
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  Speaker 2: really do anything. There's a ton of sacks. I know,
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  Speaker 2: Drake May got sacked like five or six times throughout
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  Speaker 2: the game. Sam Darnold got hit a few his fair
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  Speaker 2: share of times. It just turned out that the Seahawks,
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  Speaker 2: they got things figured out and they were more consistent.
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  Speaker 2: You know, they would get themselves into field goal range,
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  Speaker 2: getting nine or twelve points before the Patriots scored anything,
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  Speaker 2: maybe even more than that by the time the Patriots scored.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, the Seahawks they did what I thought they
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  Speaker 2: would do overall. I thought they would score more points probably,
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, they were just the better team overall. And
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  Speaker 2: the Patriots were a little bit more impressive to me
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  Speaker 2: than I thought they would be. Their defense really stepped
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  Speaker 2: up for a lot of the game. Sure that the
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  Speaker 2: final score twenty nine to thirteen makes it look more
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  Speaker 2: of a beat down than it really was, but yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, overall, I think there wasn't a ton of
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  Speaker 2: surprises and how the game worked out, and I just
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: kind of feel good for Sam Donald, but also kind
• 10:51
  Speaker 2: of feel jealous of his happiness because the last time
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  Speaker 2: we've been that happy with Sam Donald was when he
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  Speaker 2: went in the locker room for the Vikings and they
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  Speaker 2: like showered them with water bottles and stuff, and Kevin
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  Speaker 2: O'Connell was trying to stay out of the way a
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  Speaker 2: little bit. I think it was after the Packer game
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  Speaker 2: last year, and they were lifting him on his shoulders
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  Speaker 2: and stuff. That was the last time we were really
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  Speaker 2: happy with Sam Darnold as the Vikings quarterback. And that
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  Speaker 2: feels like decades ago at this point, and that was.
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  Speaker 1: Only like a little more than a year ago. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: which is crazy. Well, speaking of that, let's get into
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  Speaker 1: roses and thorns, because we've been doing it, and I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we don't have a game to do roses and thorns
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  Speaker 1: for anymore.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
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  Speaker 1: This might be the last time until we get football
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  Speaker 1: to actually talk about again.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it might be a preseason or I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: we might do some free agency Roses and thorns. You
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  Speaker 2: never know, we might bring it back before for a game,
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  Speaker 2: for a game that we were able to watch.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk roses thorns. You go first.
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  Speaker 2: I love how you timed that out right as I
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  Speaker 2: was taking a sip. You're right there, all right, my rose.
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  Speaker 2: I kind of just talked about it a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Sam Arnold won the Super Bowl. It's kind of a
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  Speaker 2: fun stat right now that Sam donald is the first
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  Speaker 2: quarterback of his draft class to make the Super Bowl,
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  Speaker 2: let alone win it. And remember that draft class includes
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  Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield, it includes Josh Allen, it includes pretty sure
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  Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson, and then of course Sam Donald. I think
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  Speaker 2: those might be the only ones that were first round
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  Speaker 2: picks in that draft class in twenty eighteen. I might
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  Speaker 2: be wrong about that, but I think that's about it.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, a year ago today, you know, if
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  Speaker 2: you had said who of those guys is going to
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  Speaker 2: be the first one to make a Super Bowl, Sam
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  Speaker 2: Donald would probably be at the bottom of that list,
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  Speaker 2: especially since a year ago today he was just coming
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  Speaker 2: off those fresh two terrible games with the Vikings the
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  Speaker 2: Lions game to finish off the season and the Rams
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  Speaker 2: playoff game to get eliminated from the playoffs. So I
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  Speaker 2: don't think anybody would have predicted, you know, Sam Donald
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  Speaker 2: to be the first of those guys to win a
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  Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Also, when you think about the fact that
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  Speaker 2: Josh Allen was coming off as first MVP, I think
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people were expecting the Bills to really
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  Speaker 2: be a contender this year, especially with the way the
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  Speaker 2: season played out and the Chiefs took a dud this year,
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  Speaker 2: and I mean it seemed like Josh Allen didn't really
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  Speaker 2: have anything in his way and oh no, all of
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  Speaker 2: a sudden, they lose one out of two playoff games,
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  Speaker 2: and their coaches fired and they just got to start over.
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  Speaker 2: So in my rose, Sam Donald won the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a Sam Donald fan. I will always be a
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  Speaker 2: fan of that guy. I really enjoyed the season he
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  Speaker 2: had with the Vikings. In hindsight, I do kind of
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: wish the Vikings had tried a little harder to sign him,
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  Speaker 2: but I think they did make an effort to sign him.
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  Speaker 2: It's just he had a better opportunity with the Seahawks,
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  Speaker 2: and obviously it worked out for him and the Seahawks. No,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not one person that's gonna say had they signed him,
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  Speaker 2: the Vikings would be celebrating a Super Bowl victory right now.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's not necessarily the case. I don't think he
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  Speaker 2: would have immediately brought them to the Super Bowl this year,
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  Speaker 2: but you never know, so good for him, Good for
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  Speaker 2: Sam Darnold.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, my rose was that I just didn't really care
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  Speaker 1: about the game, Like that's your rose. Yeah it was.
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  Speaker 1: It was just like it was stress free watching for me.
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  Speaker 1: It was just like, all right, one more football game
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  Speaker 1: for a while, Okay, cool and you know, good teams.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't a bad game. It's not like we were
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  Speaker 1: watching like the Browns and the Bengals play or something
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  Speaker 1: like that, Like, well.
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  Speaker 2: That couldn't happen.
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  Speaker 1: But I know, I'm I mean, they those two teams
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  Speaker 1: play each other, just not in the Super Bowl. But
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't too bad teams, is the point I was
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  Speaker 1: trying to make. And yeah, I don't know. I just honestly,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't really care either way. If I had to
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  Speaker 1: lean in one way or the other, I leaned towards
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  Speaker 1: the Seahawks just because Sam Darnold and the Patriots have
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: so many rings already it's kind of obnoxious. I did
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  Speaker 1: see that they have now lost the most Super Bowls
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  Speaker 1: of any team, So I think they've they're tied for
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  Speaker 1: first with the Steelers maybe with six rings.
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, they have seven.
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  Speaker 1: The Patriots have seven.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there are possessions.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, well then they they've won the most and they've
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  Speaker 1: also lost the most. HM. So I thought they had
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  Speaker 1: six for some reason, but I could be wrong, so yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe they do have SI they're.
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  Speaker 1: Tied with Pittsburgh with six.
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  Speaker 2: I thought they had seven.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe that's because this could have been their seventh.
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  Speaker 2: I know tom Brady he got another one, But I
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  Speaker 2: thought tom Brady's got eight. Maybe I'm way mistaken on that.
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  Speaker 2: It's not a big deal.
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  Speaker 1: Tom Brady might have six. He I think he had
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  Speaker 1: five with the Patriots and then the last one with
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  Speaker 1: the Bucks.
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  Speaker 2: Well, if the Patriots don't have a super Bowl win
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  Speaker 2: without Tom Brady, yeah they do. Who would have won?
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  Speaker 1: I feel like they had one. Weren't they in the
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl in the eighties.
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  Speaker 2: I mean they lost to the eighty five Bears in
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  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl in the superk Maybe that's what I'm
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  Speaker 2: thinking of.
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  Speaker 1: So maybe it wasn't a win.
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  Speaker 2: This is this is great.
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  Speaker 1: We look so smart right now. Well we're not.
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  Speaker 2: We are not a Patriots. Yeah, podcast right tom Brady.
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  Speaker 1: Oh one was the first one they won? Oh one, O, three, four,
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  Speaker 1: and then fourteen sixteen eighteen.
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  Speaker 2: All right, so yeah, tom Brady has seven. I thought
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  Speaker 2: he had eight. So seven six with the Patriots and
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  Speaker 2: there you go.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, so that's where you got the seven probably, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So I stress free. Right, it was just if the
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  Speaker 1: Patriot it would have won, I would have been like,
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  Speaker 1: all right, cool. The Seahawks one and I was like
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  Speaker 1: all right, cool. I kept telling people because people were
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: asking me, and I wore a Viking sweatshirt yesterday I
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: went to the grocery store and a couple of people
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  Speaker 1: asked me, well, who do you want to win? And
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, well, regardless of who wins, a former Viking
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  Speaker 1: will walk away with the ring. Very true. So I'm
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: not that excited about that either way. I'm just gonna
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: drink some beer, eat some appetizers, and enjoy watching football.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: And that's what I did.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: What was the best food food stuffs thing at your
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: super Bowl party?
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: So we didn't have a party. It's just us here
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: at our house, but my wife always makes Velveda dip. Okay,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: so it's Valveda rotel and ground beef and it's yeah
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: it is it good for you? Was I on the
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: toilet a few times? YEA?
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Worth it?
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: But was it worth it? Yes?
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: It was nice. So yeah, we had one of our neighbors.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure it was like it was a cookie bar,
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: but it was made with cookie butter, like the bisk
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: Off cookie butter stuff. It was. It was phenomenal. I
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: only had two of those, and I didn't even have
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: one until like right before everybody was leaving, and I
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: was really pissed that I didn't have one, you know, earlier,
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: because then I would have had like ten of those.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: But those were those were pretty good. We had some
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: pretty good food at where we were at nice.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Let's get into the thorns. Yeah, what's your thorn? All right?
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: So I said, my rose, of course was Sam Donald
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: win in the Super Bowl. So obviously my thorn, of
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: course is that Sam Donald won the Super Bowl. Again,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm like I said, I'm not one that's gonna
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: equate like, oh, if the Vikings had signed him, then
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: they definitely would have won the super Bowl this year.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: And that's how it would have worked, because he won
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: it with the Seahawks this year.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: That guy, but being hindsight is twenty twenty, I kind
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: kind of wish the Vikings had signed Sam Donald. Now,
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: I do defend the whole plan that they executed with
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: letting Donald walk and going with JJ. I think at
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: the time that was the right decision, and who knows,
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: maybe in the future, well we don't know exactly how
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy's going to turn out. He could turn out
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: to be a respectable starter in this league. As of
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: right now, it doesn't seem like that's gonna happen. So,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: of course, you know, the guy that you let walk.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: He won the Super Bowl, so ye. Did he look
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: like the next coming of Tom Brady in that game? No?
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: But he played okay and he did enough to help
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: his team win, So I feel good for him. I'm
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: happy for Sam Donald and good for me. Who cares?
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: If I'm happy for Sam Donald, I could be sitting
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: here super pissed, and again, who would care? And he
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: definitely seems like a good dude. He never heard a
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: bad thing about him. He kept working and he's had
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: a lot of adversity in his career, whether it was
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: earned or not earned. But you know, so, I'm happy
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: that he won the Super Bowl. But I'm also sad
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: as a Vikings fan that I couldn't you have done
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: that for us?
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: You know, so that's my thorn, But it's really more
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: of a petty little thorn that I'll get over eventually.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Interestingly enough, and not that the quarterback rating is the
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: end all be all of quarterback stats, and Drake may
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: had a better quarterback rating, then that's tough.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: He did not look Sam Darnald.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought both quarterbacks struggled obviously. Sam Donald threw
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: for two hundred and two yards, one touchdown, got he
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: only got sacked once, but he had a rating of
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: seventy four point seven.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: He only got sacked one time. Felt like he got
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: both of them got taken.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: He got pressured a lot, but he didn't get sacked.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Drake May had two hundred and ninety five yards, two touchdowns,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: two picks. I think that's really the nail in the
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: coffin for Drake May were the two interceptions.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: And that didn't he have a strip sack that was
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: returned for a touchdown. Yeah, that's tough. Those turnovers can
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: be the difference. I mean, you think thirteen or sixteen points,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: I mean six of those came straight off directly from
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: one turnover, so I mean three turnovers from one guy
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: like that can really be the difference of sixteen points
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: for sure.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: And I saw something too that the Seahawks didn't turn
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: the ball over at all in the postseason.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: The first I'm pretty sure I saw that they're the
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: first team to win the Super Bowl without committing a
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: single postseason turnover, which is wild.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: That is wild. So yeah, it was hard to see
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Sam Darnold win just because we know what could have
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: been with the Vikings. I did see something interesting. I
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: think who was it? Now I'm blanking on the name.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: There's an interview I watched two weeks ago. It might
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: have been like Tom Pellisero maybe was on the Richeison Show.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Perhaps it's kind of coming back to me now, but
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: they were talking about stuff like this, and I think
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Richison was kind of picking his brain, like, well, like
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: how do you handle these like hindsight is twenty twenty moments,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: Like if you're the Vikings and you see Sam Donald
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: have all this success a year later, you know, what
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: do you do with that? And Tom pelisera I thought,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: had a pretty wise comment. He said, when it comes
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: to like what ends up happening on the field, you
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: can't make like these outcome based conclusions at the end
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: of stuff, right, Like you can't like we can't sit
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: here and you know, really say, well, what it could
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: have should have with Sam Donald because we moved on
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: and that was the choice that was made. And you know,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: so while it sucks and it's you know, there will
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: that with it, we as Vikings fans, will torture ourselves
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: with the would it, could have, should have. But somebody,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: quays koc somebody made the decision, probably the guy that
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: got fired, would be my guess to move on from
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: the guy. And now he hoisted the Lombardi Trophy last night,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: and it wasn't in a Viking.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: It's crazy, I was gonna say. I mean, I think
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: while the Vikings ownership kind of made a point to
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: say it wasn't a decision, the decision to fire Quasi
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: dafaments it wasn't based off of one or two sole things.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: It was more of a collection of everything they'd seen
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: over the past four seasons. You gotta know that Sam
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Darnold having so much success and even making it to
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl because Sam Donald and the Seahawks advanced,
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: you know, they won the NFC Championship game before Quaycy
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: was fired. But you got to know that had to
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: have reflected very poorly on Quacy and any of those,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: like you said, decision makers especially. I think it's it's
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: very telling that Quacy had been given a contract extension
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: after Sam Donald signed with the Seahawks. Their extensions. I
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: guess I don't know exactly the timeline of Koc getting
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: his extension because he got his first and a pretty
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: decent amount of time beforehand. But I'm pretty sure by
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: the time either of them Koc or Quaycy signed extensions
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: with the Vikings, Sam Donald was already a seahawk. And
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: then to see you know that guy that these two
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: guys had a hand in letting Walk have so much
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: success and win the Ultimate Prize, it's pretty telling once
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: one of those guys gets fired, so I think, yeah,
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: you hit the nail on the head. It the first one,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: the first scapegoat at least is Quacy, and we'll see
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: how things go. It'll also be pretty telling how the
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: quarterback plays this coming year for the Vikings.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: M Yeah, so my thorn really doesn't have to do
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: with football at all, but everything non football about this
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: particular Super Bowl seemed way too political and it was
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: it was really frustrating to watch some of that, and
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: it like this was the first year where, like my
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: kids are old enough where I felt like I had
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: to have the remote at the ready just in case,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: like because stuff on TV has gotten a little looser
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: too than I mean, obviously the justin Timberlake, Janet Jackson,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: you know that whole thing will live in infamy. But yeah,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: I just felt like there are things that I'm not
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: ready to like talk about with my kids yet. So
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: and aside from that, it was just like everybody seemed
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: to have a political statement to make. There were commercials
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: that had political statements to make, the entertainment pregame and
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: halftime made political statements. We had two halftime shows for
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: the first time ever. You could have chosen to watch
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: the alternative halftime show. I watched both just out of
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: curiosity because I wanted to see it and I teach
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: a mass media class and I wanted to be able
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: to talk about it with my students, and we did.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: We talked about it. We had a pretty good discussion
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: about it today, which was cool. But anyways, it just
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: it's too political. Let's just play football. Let's just take
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: everything else out of it and play the world's greatest
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: game and have fun doing it.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree obviously on the school hop we are
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: never going to focus really anything politically. I don't think
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: either of us have much of a desire, even in
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: our personal lives, to really argue about politics with anybody,
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: whether or not they agree or disagree with us. But yeah,
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like people were just mad for
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: various reasons that didn't really make sense. I would be happy.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: I'd be very happy if they just banned all halftime shows.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: I know you don't like halftime shows, but not a
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: halftime show guy.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Like, I'm a musician. I like music, and I enjoy
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: I've enjoyed a lot of the more recent halftime shows,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: but I did not like feeling torn between, like, well,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: which one do I watch? I don't. There are plenty
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: of things in life where like having options is good. Yea,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: the super Bowl halftime show isn't one of them. And
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: then I don't know. Both both halftime shows were very polarizing, oh,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: which is just it's so indicative of where we are
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: right now, just in history and our country and all that.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: It's kind of unavoidable, but I would avoid it if
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: I were in charge.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: My oldest daughter is still in elementary school and she's
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: getting into band right now, which is awesome, and she's
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: having fun with it and she's actually doing pretty well.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: She made honor band this year, in our first opportunity
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: to earn that. But I'm sitting here thinking, dang it,
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to go to high school football games
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: and like I can't go to the bathroom during halftime
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: when she's performing. Like I do not care about the
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: band or any halftime show. I think I've said on
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: this show. It could be like the super Bowl halftime
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: show could be my favorite band of all time and
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: I would still just not care, Like that's when I
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: go get my food. So yeah, it's it's annoying that
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: it is so polarizing and that if you end up
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: watching it with really anybody, it just becomes the focal
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: point of the conversation and somebody's mad about this, and
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: somebody's mad about that. You never know when people are
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: gonna get in arguments, and it's just like, I don't know,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: can we just talk about the velvet to rotel dip
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: right here, because it's a really good, good job. Yeah,
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: it is annoying when something I love so much in
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: football even you know, it feels like we've been in
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: a there's been something political surrounding football probably forever and
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: I just haven't really noticed, but definitely since the whole
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: Kaepernick thing, it's like, all right, we're I just want
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: to watch Aaron Rodgers get tackled by Anthony Barr and
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: brick his collar bone. I don't care who's kneeling and
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: who's standing and what language people speak, Like, just let's
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: throw the football and I just need the Vikings to
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: win a super Bowl. That's all I care about. It
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: preach it is just annoying. And I agree with that thorn,
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: like why do why do we have to talk about
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: anything other than quarterback ratings and who tore their acl
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: and oh that was a great hit, Like, let's just
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: focus on the football. I don't care about anything else.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: I agree, let's take let's take all the politics out.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Let's do it. But that's just that's not real life either.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: I recognized that.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: I just I'm a child and I just fun. Maybe
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: not fun, but interesting fact because I did a lot
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: with our high school football team at the school that
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: I work at this year, and I realized that for
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: a time, they're not doing this anymore. But for a time,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: they weren't allowing the football players out onto the field
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: during the national anthem ohez and it was because of
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: the whole Colin Kaepernick thing, and they didn't want to
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: put the kids in that position to choose or they didn't,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: or maybe the other way to say it is they
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: didn't want the kids to think they were doing something,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: you know, by neil during the anthem or whatever, so
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: they just kept them in the locker room until the
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: anthem was over and then they brought them out. Yeah,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: so I was like, huh, I didn't realize that.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: And that is interesting because in that situation, you're talking
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: about literal children. Like, let's if there's any level of
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: any media or performance to keep politics out of it,
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: it's when we're just trying to build up kids, and like,
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: that's the truest form of sports is like when kids
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: are playing this game, like learning this game, and that's
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: when it really is more about sports and more about
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: like teamwork and stuff like that. So yeah, if there's
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: any level to keep politics or opinions or anything polarizing
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: out of it, it's definitely high school and younger because
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: they're I mean, I don't care if you're seventeen. You know,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: if you're not eighteen yet, you're a child, Like, just
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: go play the game.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Well, I would argue, even if you're eighteen and you
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: haven't graduated high school yet, you're still a child.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: I'm with you. There too, But like you do, get
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: that legality.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Of I still I teach plenty of eighteen year olds
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: and I remind them very quickly. You still don't have
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: your high school diploma yet. So until you have that,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I'm in charge. Once you have that, go work at
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Wendy's or something. I'm fine with that.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, our local Wendy's could use some more good workers,
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: because I don't know if I've had a time of
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: attending that place in the last couple of years since COVID,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: that place has gotten everything wrong, and I've only been
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: there a few times since then.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: But I don't come to Wendy.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, don't. You're not missing out if you go to
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: our local Wendy's. They're terrible. If you own that place
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: or work there, you suck. Wow, Yes, you're You're on
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: par with Lions fans are the worst fans.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: The schoolhop officially endorses Wendy's.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: No, we endorse that they suck.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: To be fair, not to just completely take a crap
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: on Wendy's, but if I'm going to go to that
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: part of town, I'm gonna go to Culver's. It's right there,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: Come on right there. I love Culvers Culver's is so good.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: You're a trader.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: It feels greasy and it's definitely not healthy.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: You probably get cheese. Curt On Evan, we're a Vikings podcast.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: Are you declaring yourself as a cheesehead? Right now?
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: There are?
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Thank you for tuning into the final episode.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: There are. Let me rephrase that there are three good
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: things to come out of Wisconsin.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Well, I know two of them. I'm kind of curious
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: about the third one. What do you think the two
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: you're gonna say, beer and cheese. I don't know about
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: the third one, Culver's. I think we need to move on.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Now we're getting political v Now this is what's going
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: to divide across state lines.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Well, we don't even live in Minnesota. We're from Aisle.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: You don't have to be a Minnesotan to despise Scannie.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Oh, trust me. I despise everything about Wisconsin, Wisconsin and sports.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Let me let me remind you that every time I've
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: gone to Wisconsin since we've started doing this podcast, I've
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: come back with a twelve pack of moon Man for you.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: Every time.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: We don't need to know, and we don't need to
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: talk about how much I like New Glaris and Moonman
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: every time. It's separate from this this conversation.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: I'm going there in a month. I'm going to Wisconsin
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: in a month for spring break and I will be
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: They have Great Wolf Lodge in Minnesota.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: I've been to that one, and I've been to the
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Mini or the Chicago one, and now we're going to
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: the Wisconsin one. All right, that's what my kids want,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: all right? This is and it's cheaper. Well yeah, the
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Wisconsin one's cheaper than Minneapolis or Chicago.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Also, the internet is still dial up up there, so
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: like there's there's reasons.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Perfect I need a break, all right.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, honestly, there's not a whole lot of
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Viking specific news to talk about anymore. The season's over,
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: The super Bowl is definitely over. Next step we'll have
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: the ramp up to free agency and the draft and
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: all that fun stuff. This is kind of an interesting
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: off offseason because officially the Vikings don't have a GM
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: right now they have Did they ever name Rob Brazinski
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: as like the official interim GM. I don't think they
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: just say he's going to be taking care of.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: The guy until after the draft, is what I picked
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: up on Yeah, but I don't think they came out
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: and like at least they didn't announce that they gave
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: him the official title of like interim GM.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Not that it really matters, because like you said, he's
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: he's the guy in that seat. He is going to
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: be making those decisions. And I think Mark Wilf alluded
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: to the fact that Brazinski and all of the coaching staff.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: He didn't specifically say Kevin O'Connell's name, but he said,
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: you know, with the help of the scouting and the
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: coaching staff, Rob Brazinsky was going to be making those decisions,
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: which to me implies Kevin O'Connell is going to be
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: right there with him and Brian Flores and Wes Phillips
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: and anybody else you know is going to be right there.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: It's going to be a group decision, which probably puts
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: a lot of power in Koc's hands that he may
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: or may not have had in the past. And we've
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: we've talked about it so much we're blue in the face.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: We might as well continue talking about it so much
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: until we're purple in the face.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: The dead horse, Yeah.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: The quarterback position, that's the flashiest one. It's the most
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: important position in sports, and whether you like JJ McCarthy
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: or not, you have to agree the quarterback position is
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: not a finalized, a foregone conclusion of what's happening, you know,
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six as of right now. I'm pretty
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: sure Justin Jefferson was on a few interviews over Super
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Bowl Week and he answered this question a couple of
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: times saying, Hey, we got to get the quarterback position right,
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: and he wasn't saying we need to move on from J.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: He was saying, we need to get JJ where he
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: needs to be and we need that position to be
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: doing what it's supposed to be doing, which is pretty
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: pretty heavy stuff when your franchise player is comfortable enough
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: to just publicly be like, yeah, I'm just gonna answer
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: this question this way and not have it be something
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: he's answering angrily.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: So.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Vikings Territory dot Com one of our favorite sites here,
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: they put out kind of a list of a few
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: positions that are going to be under hyper focus throughout
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: this offseason for the Vikings, and obviously quarterbacks is one
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: of them. We can probably link to the article that
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: we're taking this list from, but at one point, Dustin
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: Baker in this article lists it feels like twenty twenty
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: six quarterbacks that could be options as of right now
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: we're sitting, you know, early February. These are names that
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: could realistically be talked about for the Vikings twenty twenty six. Evan,
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know if we need to go down and
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: read all twenty six of these names. You and I
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: kind of highlighted a few that could be intriguing. I
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: don't know how do we want to go about this.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: Do we just want to kind of highlight or you know,
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: talk about the names you and I have highlighted.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, why don't we talk about the highlighting names? Obviously
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: there are some names on here that I don't think
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: the Vikings would ever pursue, Like Teddy Bridgewater. I don't
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: know that he's a viable option at quarterback anymore. Case
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: Keenum and I'm intentionally naming previous Yeah Vikings quarterbacks here.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: But Joe Flacco, I feel like he's at the end
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: of his career.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: He did Roll Bowl quarterback, Joe Flacco.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Don't even get me started on the joke that is
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. But yeah, let's focus on the names
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: we highlighted. I'll start, and I'll start with probably the
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: sexiest name that's been tossed out there for several months.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: It seems like now that's Mac Jones played or I
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: think it's still currently with the forty nine ers. Was
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: the backup to Brock Purty. I think played a few
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: games this year, started a few games because Brock got hurt.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: I can't remember how many exactly, but he's obviously the
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: flashy one, he's the good one. He had some starting
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: experience in New England. He started eight games, started eight games, Okay,
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: so more than a few. Yeah, And the Niners were
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: still in it there at the end, like they were.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, they made the playoffs, made the playoffs and
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: had an opportunity to go farther. So you got to
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: think that that's one of the options that Koc and
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Brazinski and whoever else started taking a good long look
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: at and trying to figure out, you know, how can
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: we work with the folks over in San Francisco to
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: get him over here. I think if you get mac Jones,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: it's pretty clear that the Vikings want to move on
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: from JJ McCarthy. They think mac Jones is starter quality
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: and I think on paper, Mac Jones is a better
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: quarterback than JJ McCarthy has proven to be. And it
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: might be another Carson Wentz thing, where like maybe JJ's
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: not hurt in camp, but maybe there's some excuse, or
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: maybe there's some maybe there is some phantom injury that
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: pops up in the middle of training camp or in
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: the middle of the preseason, and that's where I could
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: see Mac Jones doing what Carson Wentz did this year,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: but probably playing better than Carson Wentz. Did. I think
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: he would fit well with Kos's scheme and who knows,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: he could end up being the proverbial starter indefinitely. Yeah.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: I mean he's he's twenty seven right now, and I
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: think by the time the season starts he'd be really
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: close to twenty eight. Importantly, the Vikings would have to
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: trade for him, yep. And it wouldn't be no swapping
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: six round picks just to get this guy. I don't
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: think it'd be multiple first round picks, but you know,
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: it might be something that you know it's it could
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: be a Grenard for mac Jones type deal. And don't
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: quote me on that. I'm not well versed in the
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: exact trade value that mac Jones has, but it's not cheap,
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: especially when the forty nine ers multiple times recently, like
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: even this week, have basically said like, we don't anticipate
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: trading him, like we were not really interested in trading
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: mac Jones, which I understand. Quarterback is your most important position.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: And even if you're good with your starter, if you're
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: really good with the back up behind him, that's insurance.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: That's the best insurance you can have. So there'd be
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: no reason to get rid of him. And some have
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: said like the Niners are just trying to tock up
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: his trade value and make it seem like they don't
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: want to get rid of him just because they think
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: they could get more from him if it feels like
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: they have to rip mac Jones away from the Niners.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: So I don't know, I'd be intrigued. You said that
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: you thought if the Vikings got mac Jones, that's immediately saying, hey,
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: JJ's done mac Jones, he's our starter, and depending on
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: what it would cost to trade for him, I could
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: get on board with that. But let's just pretend Jones
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: was just a free agent to be had right now.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: I think he's in that level of competing with JJ
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: McCarthy in camp, maybe he'd have the edge. He's like
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: five years older, he's got a lot more experience, so
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: he'd probably probably would win that quarterback battle right now.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: But to me, it's a lot closer than probably others
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: would think. And you know, I'm not saying you're definitely
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: wrong and you're super dumb for having a different opinion
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: than I do. But I think it'd be more of
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: a battle than we'd think it would be.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: I totally feel that way. By the way I feel
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: personally attacked.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: I'm personally attacking, you know. I just hope I really
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: want you to know that, just kidding. Some of the
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: names on this list I've got that I highlighted, really
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: nobody listed here is somebody I think would immediately take
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: over JJ's job, without question, without a battle, Like oh instantly,
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Hey they signed this guy. That's that's done for JJ.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: But probably the most intriguing for me right now for
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, for one season. I kind of hate
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: to say it, but Aaron Rodgers. I mean, he's obviously,
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: you know, one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time,
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: whether we'd like to say that or not. I think
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: for this twenty twenty six season, he might, you know,
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: if you're just looking to win one year and then
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: take whatever you can get for the future. I think
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers might be okay. He didn't light the world
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: on fire as a Steeler this past year, but they
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: made the playoffs, even if it did take a miskick
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: to get there. But yeah, I think Aaron Rodgers with
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell, I wouldn't mind seeing that. I'm not saying
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: that's exactly what I want to happen, but I'd be
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: okay with it if that happened.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I really only highlighted one other name, and it's
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: a name that I just just out of pure curiosity
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: I would be interested to see, mostly because Koc is
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: known as the quarterback whisper.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I took that title away from him personally,
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: and I did so well.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Just because you did doesn't mean I have to. Will
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: Levis is on my list as another one that would
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: be interested. Like you noted with Mac Jones, He's another
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: one that the Vikings would have to trade for, which
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: just means acquiring him would come at a different cost.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: He might be one of those swap a seventh rounder
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: for a sixth rounder, just being type guy.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: He could be, but he was injured for a while
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: and I think that's definitely affected his career trajectory. But anyways, yeah,
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: i'd be interested, just mostly just for the like, well,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: screw it, let's just see what happens. You know, he's
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: kind of the let's just let's just do it. Let's
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: just do it to do it and see what happens.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: That would definitely be a competition. Will Levis is, how
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: old is he? Twenty six? He'll be twenty seven by
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: the time the season starts, so similar age, hair, younger
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: than Mac Jones, but also what five or so years
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: older than JJ McCarthy. That would I mean, I would
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: expect JJ McCarthy to win out a competition like that.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: But maybe maybe that's what everybody gets better with competition, right,
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: So maybe that's what JJ McCarthy needs, is a guy who, like,
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: it's not like they're bringing in an undrafted rookie from
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: this hometown in Max Brosmer, where I don't care who
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: you are. I don't think JJ McCarthy or really anybody
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: realistically thought Max Brosmer was gonna come in and win
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: a competition between JJ McCarthy and if Max Brosmer does,
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: then absolutely fire everybody, tear it all down and start over,
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: just because he shouldn't. He shouldn't win that competition. Yeah, well,
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: Levis might be another. He's definitely more more of a
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: better quarterback than Max Brosmer. I think that would add
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: to the competition in the room, and I wouldn't be
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: mad about it. Yeah, do you think Will Levis would
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: instantly come in and win the job.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that he would, and I agree with
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: you that I think he'd be one that would bring competition.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: But like I said a minute ago, I think with him,
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: it's just a like let's just see, like let's just
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks kind
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: of thing. And if JJ McCarthy sticks, great, and if
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Will Levis sticks, great, He's kind of a low risk thing.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: There's a little bit more of a risk reward scenario
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: with mac Jones, but with Will Levis's, like you said,
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: probably a sixth rounder or something low like that, Like
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: it's not a big deal, and it could be there
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: could be like a Tom Brady esque kind of nugget
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: uncovered there, or where it could just be a total
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: flop and it's like, no, well we tried it and
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: wasn't for us, and we're gonna move on.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think i'd take Levis over Carson Wentz.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think at this point I would say the same,
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: especially considering the fact that Carson Wentz is quite a
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: bit older and has bounced around the league like crazy.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: He got really really injured and had to have surgery
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: which kept him out of the rest of this season.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: You have to think if Carson Wentz would have been healthy,
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: we probably would have seen more Carson Wentz this season.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: And Carson Wentz and we made this comment before we
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: started recording, so it's good that we're circling back around
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: to us. Carson Wentz was the better quarterback that played
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: for the Vikings this year. I know JJ McCarthy played
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: more games, but and his stats will look better because
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: he played more games. But I think Carson Wentz was
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: the more effective quarterback in the limited games that he played.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: And he also had to deal with all the adversity
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: of being the backup and fighting through injury and knowing
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: that he was basically just crucified out there like Kevin
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: O'Connor was just kept putting him out there knowing that
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: he was hurt and knowing that he was probably gonna
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: like end his season, who knows, possibly even end his career.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he might not play again.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: So yeah, all right, I highlighted a couple more names,
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: but honestly, I'm not gonna talk about Zach Wilson. I
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: have talked myself out of that. I was going more
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: for like the the the Sam Darnold redemption arc, you know,
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: going from the Jets to another couple of teams, and
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: maybe there's something there, but I don't think. I don't
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: think there's really anything there for Zach Wilson anymore. So
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: I'll just talk about the other name I'm highlighted, and
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: that's Daniel Jones. Now there's there's quite a few issues
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: with Daniel Jones, like that that whole scenario. He's coming
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: off of an achilles tear, and it wasn't one that
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: happened in week two of the season. It happened in
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: the back half of the season. I think closer in
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: the middle of the season, but definitely in the second
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: half of the season. So just injury wise, even if
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: he was an MVP level player, which I don't think
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: he is. He's still got to deal with coming back
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: from an achilles tear, which is not easy if he
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: can do it at all. Another thing is he already
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: chose to move on from the Vikings if we believe
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: all the storyline that the Vikings offered him more money
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: than the Colts did, but he chose the Colts because
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: it was a better situation for him, which I agree with.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: Why would he choose to go back to the Vikings
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: unless he knew how they are done with JJ and
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: they've told me that, And I am going to be
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: the starter if I'm healthy. So Daniel Jones, he proved
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: as a cult that there's something there. He's pretty good.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: He's worth if he can get back to that health level,
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: he's worth beingcoming a starter for any team really, So
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: I think it would work out for the Vikings if
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: that happened. But I mean, there's those hurdles you gotta
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: get over, So I don't know. Other than that, I
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: don't see any crazy names on this list that would
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: really get me excited.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: There's one name that we haven't talked about yet.
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm excited to hear what you're saying.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: I added, him to the end of our stuff, and
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: I don't think we've talked about him since we started recording.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: I know we talked about him pre show.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but who is it of?
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: I added a twenty seventh name to the list in
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: all caps.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: Our listeners are on pins and with some question marks.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, will Kirk o.
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: Chains, Oh you're gonna put on the chance?
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: Will he come back to the Vikings? That's I think
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: that's a legitimate question. It is a.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: Legitimate question if he were to sign. I'll let you talk,
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: and I just need to get this out really quick.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: I go.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: If the Vikings signed Kirk Cousins, I that's probably one
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: of the only names that I'd be like, actually mad about.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: I love Kirk Cousins as a dude. I think he
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: has had his time as a quarter back. But regardless
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: of wins and losses or how it worked out, regardless
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: of contract or anything like that, if the Vikings signed
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins again, that would tell me all I need
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: to know about JJ McCarthy, And it would tell me
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: all I need to know about the coaching staff and
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: their confidence and how much confidence I should have in
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: the coaching staff because JJ McCarthy should with the right
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: coaching and the right support, should be better right now
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: than Kirk Cousins is right now. I'd actually be mad
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: if they signed Kirk Cousins again.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: But to that point, you brought in Aaron Rodgers and
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: Daniel Jones into the discussion, Like, wouldn't bringing those two guys,
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: Either of those two guys into the Vikings organization communicate
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: the same thing, Like we've lost hope and this young kid.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: We are going with the guy who just came off
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: of an Achilles' injury or the guy who just came
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: off of in the Call's injury two years ago and
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: then rehabbed his career and took the Steelers to the playoffs, right, Like,
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: the Vikings aren't gonna pay Aaron Rodgers, I don't know
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: twenty million dollars roughly, give or take to back up
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy. The Vikings aren't gonna pay Daniel Jones ten
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: million dollars roughly to back up JJ McCarthy. The Vikings
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: might pay mac Jones less than ten million dollars.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: Oh, I think if mac Jones gets traded or whatever,
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: he's probably I don't know what he makes right now.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: But he probably makes more than ten million.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: He'd be the priciest one outside of Rogers and Jones.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: But he's got a base salary Mac Jones does in
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty six of two point eight million.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: But I mean two point eight that's that's a that's
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: a carckehit.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: Of three point nine. So four million, that's a bargain.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's round up and let's call it five million dollars.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: Now you've got a starter quality guy at half the
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: price or a quarter of the price of Aaron Rodgers. Right.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: Will levis probably even cheaper than that. Oh yeah, yeah,
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. What I will say about Kirk is number one,
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: Kirk cannot expect the same contract that he's used to getting,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: and I think he knows that. I think Kirk is
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: in the spot where he wants to. He just wants
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: to keep going because he's healthy and he's rehabbed from
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: his achilles injury, and he wants to. He wants to
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: see what else he has left in him. And I
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: think there's just a little bit of that kind of
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: motivation in him. Still wouldn't and I applaud him for that.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: Good for him at that age. I think he's a
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: little older than us. I think he's like thirty seven. Yeah,
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: go out and play a few more years. See if
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: you can earn a few more dollars and you know,
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: set your family up basically for life.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: Oh they're already set up. But yeah, I agree with
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: what you're saying.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: But if Kirk were to go anywhere, Minnesota or not,
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: he's not going to get what did what did Atlanta
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: pay him? Like, what was his yearly?
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: It was one hundred and eighty It was so much
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: for four years with like one hundred guaranteed or something.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: And I think I said this last week, but the
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: Falcons look stupid. They look they look absolutely dumb for
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: signing him to that contract because they're going to release
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: him here. And they had signed him when he was
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: a free agent in twenty twenty four to a four year,
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty million dollar deal with ninety guaranteed
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: at signing jeez, nd a total guaranteed. Now I know
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: what a few weeks ago he like adjusted he agreed
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: to like a contract adjustment or whatever. But it kind
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: of made it sound like he did that to be
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: able to make it easier for the Falcons to release
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: him and then he could go wherever he wanted.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: Well, hear me out on this. We're getting down to
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: the point here. Five million dollars for Kirk Cousins, okay,
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: to come back to the Vikings. Five million wouldn't break
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: the bank. It would be a lot to pay a guy,
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: for sure, especially a guy that's going to be your
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: backup on the bench probably. But you said it a
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: little bit ago, and I heard what you said. Having
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: a good backup quarterback is one of the best insurance
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: policies you can have in the NFL, and I don't
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: disagree with that at all. Kirk Cousins knows this organization,
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: he knows this head coach. He knows really everything that
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: you need to know to be a successful quarterback in Minnesota.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: And I think Kirk is at a point in his
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: career where he's okay with being the backup. He did
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: it now for a little bit in Atlanta, and he's
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: a role player now, he's not the quarterback. He's not
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: the guy like he had been for so long in
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: Washington and then in Minnesota and for a time in
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: Atlanta until they drafted Pennix. But I don't know. I
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: think of all those guys on that list. If you're
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: gonna pay five million dollars to anybody, why not give
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: it to the guy that knows what Kirk knows, that
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: has the rapport with the guys in the building, that
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: knows how Kevin O'Connell calls games like right, Like, you
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: almost have another coach that can help JJ McCarthy develop
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: into this player that everybody wants him to be. And
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: maybe maybe that's the last ditch effort. Maybe it's not
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: a like, well, we're waving the white flag. This kid sucks.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: We're gonna move on from him. Kirk, come finish your
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: career here. Let's see what we can do with the
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: last two or three years that you've got left in. Yeah.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: I don't see it that way. I see it as
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: a like, bring him in. He's a coach that has
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: played right, he's played Kevin O'Connell, We know this. Kevin
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: O'Connell former quarterback, Josh McCown, quarterbacks coach for the Vikings,
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: former quarterback. Both have NFL experience, but neither of them
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: have been under center in like a decade, and Kirk
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: Cousins has been under center yesterday. Yeah, you know, like
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: he's got the experience. He knows more about the intimate
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: details of what it means to play at that position
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: than those other two. And I think maybe maybe there's
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: that trifecta. Maybe you bring in Koc, Josh McCown, Kirk
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: Cousins and all all of them just elevate JJ McCarthy
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: to be like the most awesome quarterback that's ever lived.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: It's a pipe dream, but yeah, we're dreaming all.
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: If it worked, I'd be all for it. There's there's
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: a few holes in your argument. Goach's fine, I'm not perfect.
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: But the major one is five million dollars.
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: You don't think that that's a realistic amount.
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: I think Kirk, wherever he signs with, wherever he lives,
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: and whichever roster he's on in twenty twenty six, whether
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: it's on a football team or in a TV broadcast
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: booth or whatever, I think he is not earning anything
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: less than twenty million dollars in twenty twenty six. And
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: I think the TV aspect of it is valid. I
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: think he is probably still of the mindset that he's
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: not going to willingly walk into a situationuation where he's
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: not the starter, And I think there's some validity to that.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: He's still he has shown that he's at least a
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: starter level player on lots of teams. And I think
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of teams that would be okay with
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: all right for this year, this year and maybe next
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: year too. Where the Browns and we don't want to
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: roll with Shadoor, so we're gonna go with Kirk. Or
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: we're the Jets and we don't want to roll with
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: Justin Fields, so we're gonna give Kirk a call. I
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: think there's gonna be enough competition from teams that he's
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: gonna get more than five minutes. I think he'll he
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: might get more than twenty five million. Like he's he's
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: gonna get his money. We've said it a million times
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: on this show. He's a savvy guy. He pays his
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: agents well, and he does that for a reason. He's
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: not gonna do what Aaron Rodgers did this year and
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: play for Pittsburgh for ten million bucks. I think Aaron
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: Rodge just doesn't give a flying f anymore. And he's
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: just like, all right, I'll go play whatever. Give me
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: ten million.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: I've already got yeah, millions upon millions.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: And while Kirk has already gotten millions upon millions. He's
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: not going to say that. He's going to say if
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: I'm playing, I'm getting paid.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: You know, he's a business.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: Good for him. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: Good for him. These players only get so many years
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: to get paid and you can always earn more money,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: like that's that's fine. And I think if he was
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: proving it in this playoffs where he was on TV
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: in various forms, it seems like if that option is
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: out there for him to be on TV for more
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: money than to be on the field, he's savvy. He's
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: going to take that opportunity.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: And I don't honestly, I don't know how much money
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: is in those TV I don't know if it's tens
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: of millions of dollars. But I do know that those
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: guys have to be smart. They have to be studied up.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: Like they they don't just put anybody behind the microphone
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: on ESPN. They don't put us behind the Microphoneah, I know,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: like we'd sit up there and be like, uh, what
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: are his stats again? Who did he play for last year?
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: I don't even know. I mean, they have to know
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: a lot of stuff, and they've got to be able
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: to just you know, rapid fire go all the time.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: So anyways, I don't.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: Know Google Google AI, which could be totally wrong. I
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: recognize this is the biggest asterisk I can give anything,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: But Google AI says Tony Romo earned seventeen to eighteen
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: million dollars a year being on TV. Interesting, that could
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: be way wrong. First off, Two, that's not I'd like
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: Tony Romo. He's good at his job. That's not saying
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: Kirk would be able to walk in and expect Tony
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: Romo TV money right off the bat. That's but still
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: there's there's dollars there. I think if Kirk was getting
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: Starter opportunity to use for ten million dollars a year
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: and he got TV opportunities for twelve to fifteen, he'd
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: be taking the more money. That's what I would do, yep.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: And and I mean being on TV is a lot
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: less dangerous than being the quarterback of an NFL team
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: where you're literally getting hunted down every single play. Yep.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: So I'm probably being very conservative from the Viking standpoint
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: of a you know, a five million dollar Kirk Cousins contract,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: and I know that I'm not saying that that's going
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: to be what actually happened.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: If it were five million dollars, all the stuff I
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: said about being super pissed about it would be very
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: no confidence, very team friendly. Five million bucks. Yeah, let's
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: do that.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: Let's go and maybe Kirk is at a point where
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: he's a little more Aaron Rodgers ass Like it's like,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: all right, No, I've made a lot of money in
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: this league. I just want to keep playing and I
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: want to go back to a familiar place. Yeah. Right,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: And I think Kirk is smart enough, Like he's not
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: just a money grabber. I think he's a cost benefit guy.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: He's a mon's a money's a smart way, but but
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: it's savvy. It's what we've been saying.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's with that cost benefit right, Like okay, Like
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: I remember when he left the Vikings, one of the
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: things he kept talking about in the interviews was, well,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: we got to move the kids to a new school,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: and that's a hard thing. And like he's a family guy,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: and but his wife is from Atlanta, so it was
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: kind of like, well, it makes sense, we'll just move
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: everybody there and then we'll be closer to her family
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: and blah blah blah, and I wouldn't be surprised if
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: they kept their house in Minnesota or kept a property
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: in Minnesota somewhere to like be able to go back to.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know, it's it's probably not likely at all.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: And I'm not going to sit here and there are
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: probably going to be some people in the comments that
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: would want to rip me apart and.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: Say, rip us apart. That's okay, we can take it.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fine, but we have heard the.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: Worst fans have been in our comments section.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: I'm not sitting here thinking, Uh, I'm not delusional enough
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: to think like Kirk Cousins is gonna come back for
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: pennies and he's gonna miraculously turn JJ McCarthy into the
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: greatest quarterback that's ever walked the face of the thing.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: That's not what I'm saying. What I what I'm interested
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: in is having that experience back in the building and
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: just having that trusted, like steady bedrock of a guy who, like,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about Kirk Cousins doing stupid stuff.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: You don't have to. It's kind of like Sam Donald,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: Like Sam Donald, like he.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: He's not gonna get trespassed from a casino at three
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: forty five in the morning.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: The dude won the super Bowl last night, and he
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: cracked a beer in the locker room. Like that was it.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: It wasn't this the most controversial thing he's ever done.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't this. Like he's not like springing the
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: bottle of champagne. You know, He's not like, yeah, he's
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: just no, he's just he walked in and he's just,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: here's my beer.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: That's that's that's the video we saw. We don't know
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: how how he celebrated.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: I'm sure he's celebrated.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: I get what you're saying, though, He's not going to
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: be on a boat with a bunch of people with
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: some substance that may or may not be something he
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: shouldn't have been helding a lot of Stefan Diggs, you
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: know both, you know, Cousins and Sam Darnold.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: Right, So that's I guess that's the point I'm trying
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: to make, Like, if if we have all these if
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: we have literally the alphabet's worth of quarterbacks to pick from,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: twenty six different quarterbacks to pick from, if Kirk Cousins
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: is willing to come back on a team friendly deal
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: that seems really secure to me. That seems like a
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: solid bet to me, especially if if it's cheap and
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: he's willing to play the back seat and just help
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: JJ develop. If he's not, like, no harm, no foul,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: go go get your money somewhere else, you probably will.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I think he's an interesting one. And he's
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: even said in some interviews this week that he's open
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: to it.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but he said that about really an any team.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: Excuse me, there is man, I keep burping. There is
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: one other thing. I think the fans like you and
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: I probably put too much into the idea that having
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: another player who's really good about things around you automatically
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: helps your own development. My personal opinion is, if the
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: Vikings are focused one hundred percent solely on the development
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: of JJ McCarthy, bringing in another quarterback. Maybe it's different
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: than a coach or like a one on one guy
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: to coach him up or whatever, but bring in another
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: quarterback just to be like, Oh, JJ's gonna see how
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins attacks the film room, and Kirk is gonna
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: give him all the tips and tricks and put him
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: under his shoulder and stuff. I just I don't think
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: that's effective. And that's coming from a guy who has
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: never been you know, beyond sophomore football. I haven't been
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: in organized sports in any capacity at all, So I
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: recognize where I stand here. But I don't think even
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: bringing in Aaron Rodgers is gonna be like, hey, like
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: KOC is not gonna sit down with the Aaron Rodgers
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: and JJ McCarthy and be like, all right, eron, you're
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: gonna teach him everything, you know, because honestly, like I
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: said earlier, that's like a coaches job, and some things
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: you can't like teach somebody. Like if you're not motivated
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: enough to do all the work and make all the
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: throws and sit and watch all the tape and do
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: all the work to become great, there's not much that's
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: gonna motivate you, aside from like some crazy story that
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: sparks an article where a player sees Michael Jordan play
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: on TV one time and he's like, I'm gonna be
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: that great. You know, it's gotta be something generational like that.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: But like, if if you want JJ McCarthy to develop
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: into the best quarterback he can be, then it should
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: be focused on JJ McCarthy and not bringing in another quarterback,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: because when a coach is game planning and when they're
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: doing all the stuff and they're in the game and
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: with the helmets on and you know, the talking back
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: and forth, koc's main focus is going to be the
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: quarterback I'm talking to. When we attended the Packer game,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: the final game of the season, the second JJ McCarthy
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: came off the field and he said, I'm out. I was.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: I zoomed in on my phone. I'm like, what's going on?
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: The coach was not talking to JJ McCarthy like that
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: whole drive that they came off the field, and it
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: was like, oh, where is JJ McCarthy. I looked on
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: the sideline and when the offense was on the field
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: or on the sideline, Kevin O'Connell was so close and
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: so directly talking to Max Brosmer. It's like there was
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: nobody else in the stadium. Kevin O'Connell did not care
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: about JJ McCarthy on that moment because he couldn't because
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: his quarterback was Max Brozner. And when you're in the
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: heat of it and you're trying to win the game,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: the coach has to focus the most on the players
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: on the field. So I don't know. If it's all
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: about development, then the only thing that can help JJ
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: is being in the fire and developing there. And that's
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: just my opinion.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: And who knows. Maybe we're sitting here in I don't
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: know what five months, six months. Maybe JJ isn't the
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: quarterback at all, or maybe he is, and maybe it's
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: this ride or die mentality and we're sticking with him
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: and that's what we're doing. And maybe they don't bring
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: anybody in, maybe they bring in some lower level guy
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: to be the backup. But the faith is in JJ
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: all the more and that's what makes sitting here talking
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: about it all the more fun. Is we get lots
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: of stuff to talk about, and we'll get little shreds
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: of information between now and August.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: We'll just keep talking about it until we get to
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: see the product on the field again in September of
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: Man, that's so far away from now.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: I know. That's why today's a day of morning. There's
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: no more football for a while.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: Well, you know what I'm not mourning about.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: What's that?
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: Birch, the brown freaking bear.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: Birch, the brown Bear never disappoints.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: Officially, the beer is named Birch the Bear. It's an
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: American brown ale from Big Grove. We've had it now,
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: I think officially three times on the podcast. I would
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: have it thirty more times. It's a great one. Big
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: Grove has never let us down in their great beers,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: and Birch the Bear it's probably one of the more
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know nostalgic beers of the school, hop just
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: because of the name of it. Evan, was it just
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: as good for you this time as always?
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: It was? In fact, I was crushing it there for
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: a while. You were kind of lagging behind, and then
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: I started talking a bit and you caught up to me. Yeah,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: so good work.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: This is one that we definitely, you know, for listeners
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: peeking behind the.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: Veil.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: Here we record our like minute or so long intro
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: to the episode after we record the rest of the episode.
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  Speaker 2: So this was one that I had to make sure
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  Speaker 2: I left a good sip or two for the intro.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I like this one. It's not even my
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  Speaker 2: favorite type of beer, and this is one of my
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  Speaker 2: favorite beers there are, so it's really good. I like
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  Speaker 2: it a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Good beer where can people find us if they want.
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  Speaker 2: More all the socials. Keep the conversation going by reaching
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  Speaker 2: out on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok YouTube for sure. We
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  Speaker 2: love the YouTube comments. You can also consume us as
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  Speaker 2: a podcast through Spotify, Apple Podcasts really wherever, just because
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  Speaker 2: it gets pushed out to every type of podcast media
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  Speaker 2: even audible and stuff like that. So really wherever you want,
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  Speaker 2: but wherever you are, feel free to give us a like,
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  Speaker 2: drop a comment, subscribe if you can share us out.
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  Speaker 2: If maybe we're not your cup of tea, but maybe
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  Speaker 2: somebody you know is somebody that might like us, so
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  Speaker 2: check us out. I do also want to say last
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  Speaker 2: week I had the chance to jump on vikes Now,
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  Speaker 2: which is part of Vikings Territory in front of the
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  Speaker 2: show Dustin Baker. I jumped on there and I had
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  Speaker 2: a really good, like forty five plus minute conversation with
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  Speaker 2: brevn Baine, who is doing the vikes Now stuff as
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  Speaker 2: a part of Vikings Territory. So yeah, I tweeted that out.
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  Speaker 2: There's a link that'll be on YouTube. It's a few
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  Speaker 2: days old at this point, but it was a good,
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  Speaker 2: good conversation. It's really fun.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually listened to some of that nice on Twitter.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah it's good. Yeah, good stuff. Well it's really good beer.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was a pretty good episode, maybe the
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  Speaker 2: greatest episode yet possibly.
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  Speaker 1: That's cool. It's cool. I act acting, acthetic