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Two-Up: Switch 2 Pre-Order Chaos & Oblivion Remastered · Multiple Nerdgasm

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  You'll be proud of me. I did something very Australian the last few days. Did
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  you? Well, I played two up. Oh, yes. It was Anzac Day. Yes.
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  Welcome to Multiple Nerdgasm with your
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  hosts Matt, Luke, and Dan. Multiple
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  Nerdgasm, your guide to all things
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  nerdy. Antic day yesterday here. So today's
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  Saturday. So yes, happy day. I've never played it before.
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  Okay. And I knew the basic idea behind it, but now I understand the rules. I
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  know that I have, but I was just thinking now I don't remember how it
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  works at all. Like I remember the basics of it. Like there's three coins on a
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  ruler essentially. Yeah. And then you bet with people in the crowd. And if two
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  or more turn up heads, heads wins. If two or more tails, then tails wins. But
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  I do know the reason why it's only sort of legal for one day a year. Yeah. So
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  for non-Australian listeners, this is a like you can just gamble in the streets
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  doing this game one day every year. It's it's [ __ ] illegal any other time.
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  Yes. Because the government you can't tax it. Like there's no way to make
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  money off it. But also it can lead to a lot of fights because there is a lot of
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  the honor system in this. But it's so Australian that you're allowed to do it
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  on Ant. Yeah. Cuz if your heads if you're betting heads and people are
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  betting like $50 hundreds of dollars for this and they're betting against someone
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  whose tails they just hand the money to the person whose tails and the person
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  whose tails holds that money in their hand, right? And then spin comes and
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  it's just the honest support. No, it's heads you get it back or tails I keep
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  it. Yeah. Right. And there were times where like I could have people just
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  handed me money. I had it in my hand cuz I was tail. You could just run off. Bug it off
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  cuz Yeah. But that was actually quite a bit of fun. I'm going to actually try and do it
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  a bit more next year. Yes. Only one day the price of it gone up.
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  The How come the price of random street gambling have gone up? Well, I don't
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  know. I remember like I've done it before in the past and I've seen people
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  and people used to like save up their $5 notes to get ready for it. Now it's now
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  it's hundos. Yeah. Bets was starting at 50. [ __ ] hell. All right. Where'd you
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  do it? Like RSL club or something? I know. At a pub. Just a pub. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Okay. I could have walked down to the RSL or one of the other three pubs on
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  the street that had it. Yeah. Yeah. It's so funny that that's a thing. I forget
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  that. I forget that's like a weird annoy. It is very strange. Like it's
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  just it's just a thing they do in Australia where legalize this one
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  specific type of gambling on one day every year. Next year I'm going to try
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  and spin the coins cuz I actually understand how that works now. Okay. So
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  when you go into the center to spin, you're actually putting money down. And
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  the idea is that you're saying you're going to spin heads three times in a
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  row. And the second you spin tails, you're out. Yeah. So what will happen is
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  you put say 50 down. someone else has to put 50 against you and then the next
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  time around you just have that same 50 in. So you get heads the first time they
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  then put a 100 in the next time and then you put nothing more in and then on the
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  third one someone's got to put 200 in. Right. And then you just if you get head
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  three times in a row it's all yours. Okay. I don't want to do that once because
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  that seems a cheaper way to play. And to to be clear that's not what Anzac
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  Day is about technically. No, Australian New Zealand Army Corps. Yes. It's like
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  memorialize soldiers who died at war at war. Yeah. For I think it was like
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  originally for World War I, I believe. Right.
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  The Great War. The Great War. Great War. The Great War that was going to end all
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  wars before we got a sequel. Yeah. And they renamed the Great War to World War
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  I. Yeah. Because, you know, Yes. World
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  War I episode one. Yeah. Uh, New Kaiser and that's where George Lucas got the
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  idea from. That's right. Just go back and rename stuff. That's where George
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  Lucas got the idea for World War II. Yeah. So, yeah. Cool. That was my weekend or
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  my day off yesterday. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Long weekend, I assume. We got two long
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  weekends in a row. We don't get as many long weekends here. We don't love
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  holidays as much as Australia does over here. Especially religious holidays.
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  We've talked about this. Yeah. Like you'll get like you get like one
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  religious holiday and that's just Christmas day, isn't it? Right. Yeah.
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  Exactly. And um because in a Easter for listeners who aren't in Australia or
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  maybe this is British thing as well. That's probably where we get it from.
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  But like in Australia, Easter is like a 4-day weekend. Friday and Monday off. We
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  get Good Friday, Easter Monday. Like it's Yeah. The whole thing. Nothing.
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  Nothing. Which it's so it doesn't make much sense to me because it's I forget
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  every year. Can't start. When's Easter? Oh, [ __ ] yeah. Oh, wait. No, I mean, but
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  the thing is you celebrate Easter over there. Yeah, of course. Like, it's a big
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  thing. Yeah. Yeah. Especially Yeah. Yeah. It's still a big thing. It's not a
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  big big thing. The big holidays here are uh Independence Day, July 4th. That's
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  the big holiday, I would say. Like, that's the one everyone's like, "Fuck
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  yeah, we're awesome." America. Yeah, that's a that's a good time. Yeah. Um
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  and uh I guess Christmas um you got don't you? We like we have
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  all those and like um there's a there's a holiday just here in Rhode Island.
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  It's the only state that still celebrates uh victory over Japan day.
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  Uh all the other states were like nah Rhode Island's keeping that strong.
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  It's not a holiday, not like a day off, but it's No, it's sort of weird. Like,
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  you even have like an Easter egg hunt at the White House type of thing. Like,
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  it's Easter. Yeah. That's the other thing, too, is the traditions here is
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  different, right? You get presents at Easter here. What? Um Yeah. Right. So,
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  they don't We don't chocolate eggs not really a thing, right? The eggs You
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  actually paint real eggs, don't you? Yeah. Or they're little plastic eggs
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  with stuff in them. And it could be candy or little toys or whatever. And
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  that's what you hide around. You don't hide chocolate eggs like in Australia.
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  In Australia, all the eggs are chocolate. Listen. Yeah. Basically all
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  of the eggs. Uh and you get [ __ ] big ones. Like big chocolate eggs. Don't
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  have those here. Um Yeah. And so and you get a basket is
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  the main thing you get from the Easter Bunny. And the basket will have like
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  candy and eggs and stuff like that, but like toys and things. Okay. It's like
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  it's like Christmas, too. So, are you doing that or Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yep.
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  We're obliged to legally obliged to do that for LRA. So Yep. Yeah. Well, it' be
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  sort of weird not to when she'd go to school and that's Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I we
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  like, you know, I would mix in I mean, right now she doesn't give a [ __ ] But I
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  will mix in some Australian stuff. Like I tried to get um some Cadbury eggs, but
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  I couldn't get them. So I have to Let me know next year. I'll get you some. Yeah.
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  Cheers. I was Yeah, I have to plan better for that. And a big chocolate
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  bunny. You need a big chocolate bunny. You get little chocolate bunnies. You
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  can get lint ones that Oh, no. You don't want fancy. You want the terrible
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  chocolate. I know, but they don't have them here. You can only get the fancy
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  ones. And I think the only reason they even exist is cuz they're like foreign
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  and in, you know, like they I think you just they're like European ones. So,
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  yeah. No, no, you need the terrible chocolate ones.
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  Yeah. Yes. I was trying to get um what was I trying to get? I found there is an
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  Australian like lolly thing website that will get stuff. It's [ __ ] expensive
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  though. Yeah. Yeah. And it's a sh It's also because if
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  you're going to do an order from there, you're going to sort of bit a bit of
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  weight. So it's also the shipping also becomes expensive as well. Yeah. Cuz if
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  I'm going to get it, I'm going to get a bunch of stuff
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  like party mix and stuff. I can buy a few pounds of runs and yes, I'll get
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  that and then I'll get something else. And then I looked at the shipping and I
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  went, "Oh, a few pounds of runs is expensive to ship." Yes. Which sucks.
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  I'll do it one day. I'll do it for my birthday next year. I'll have to do like
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  a like a treats swap or something. Yes. Cuz I'm sure there's stuff here that you
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  want. And I I reckon we meet in Hawaii one year. We do a treat swap there.
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  That'd be [ __ ] good. Yeah. Yeah. Just two suitcases. One is just full of
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  No. Well, you don't want chocolate from here. You want um No, you want It's It's
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  also It's to do with like the sugar and also the heat, isn't it? Well, I believe
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  there's a reason there was there's enzyme. [ __ ] what is it? Either they
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  put it they leave it in or they take it out. There's some enzyme in the
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  chocolate and it's the uh Hang on. Let me check. Which is why our chocolate
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  tastes better even though I don't like chocolate. Yeah. Chocolate
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  enzyme America. It's Yeah, there's something different about it. Yeah.
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  Protein. Come on. American chocolate tastes weird. What do we got here? What
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  do we got here? due to a substance called butyric acid that is often added
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  they add it to American chocolate for some reason. So you could
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  just not add it and have good chocolate I guess so. Yeah. And it's just Here we
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  go. Why do they add it to chocolate here and not anywhere else? Uh it's a cheaper
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  method of manufacturing chocolate. It's milk preser. It's literally a cheap product and
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  Hershey's puts it in the chocolate and that's become what
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  people that's the taste of chocolate here. So, and I think it's kind of gross. I
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  mean, I've gotten used to it, I suppose, cuz I don't notice it so much, but Yeah.
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  Yeah. But then I get um Yeah, if you get like real stuff. Yeah. There's like a
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  place called Ocean State Job Lot up the road and they have like like wholesale
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  stuff and you can get like you know Milka like the the probably like a Austrian or German
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  chocolate and I've bought one of those there and been like oh my god it tastes
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  so [ __ ] good cuz it doesn't chocolate's meant to be. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And if I get some
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  Cadbury and just cuz it's like why it's the taste of chocolate that I know like
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  I grew up with. It's I'm sure if I grew up here I'd feel differently about it. I
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  don't know. I've heard that even Americans say that they prefer
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  definitely there are Americans who prefer it. Yeah. I just don't know if
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  everybody would. I just need runs and
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  candy corn. A candy corn. Okay. I don't Well, it's the same thing with runs. I
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  just eat so much of it, it makes me sick. And the same with candy corn. And
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  I can't stop eating either of them. Candy corn is [ __ ] weird. All right.
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  I mean, that's easy. That's like a dollar for a giant bag of it cuz it's
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  literally just sugar formed into it. $10
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  for like 150 g or something. Really? Yeah.
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  Okay. It's not fair. Oh, should we let people know that um Dan's not here? They
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  may have figured that out. Maybe they thought maybe he was just had he just
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  has nothing to say about any of this. Yep. No, no, he's not here. He's uh he's
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  on vacation, I assume. He's on the other side of Australia, I believe. Yeah. He
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  wanted to get as far away from you as possible without leaving the country.
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  Mhm. And that's how that's how you do it. Yeah. Oh, I have to tell you
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  something sucked about Anzac Day here. Go on. Just in New South Wales,
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  supermarkets and bottle shops were not open at all. Oh, at all on that day.
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  Okay. Yeah. Every other state they opened at like 12:01 and then at New
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  South Wales brought in something last year and it was just I only found out on
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  the day and I had no food in the house and I was going to go shopping that day.
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  Huh. And it was just a little annoying. Just completely shut. Yep. Like so I had
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  to go thing that's different here and maybe times have changed. I think I
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  would have trouble switching back to this, but when we were growing up in
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  particular, tell me this is different now. I don't think it was that different
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  when I left. Shops in Australia are open from 8 or
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  9:00 a.m. to 5 or 6:00 p.m. Yeah. Except Thursdays when it's late night shopping
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  and they're open till 9 or 10. Is that still the case? Each state does have a a
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  different late night shopping night. Most of them it's Thursday. In CRA, it's
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  Friday nights late night shopping. But yeah, it's the same. sort of like it's
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  only 9 to 5 but 5:30 cuz here man shops
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  are just open from like 6:00 a.m. to [ __ ] midnight. Like I know like
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  shopping centers like Wworth and stuff they'll be open till like 11 and stuff
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  but yeah just a normal retail they're like pretty much 9 to 5. No I'm I was
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  just thinking I I I'm used to that now. Like I could just go if it's [ __ ] 10
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  p.m. and I want to go buy pants, I'll just go to Nordstrom and they're open
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  like depending on the day. 24-hour Kmarts, I think. But yeah, that's about
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  it. Yeah. Yeah, cuz that's right cuz Kmart and Broadway was the place you'd
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  go if it was late at night and you needed to get something. Yeah. And it
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  might be different in this It might be different in Sydney. They might stay
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  open later, but I just wondered if they changed it. But yeah. Yeah. I know in
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  CRA where there's no one here, so they be crazy for them to stay open. and
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  serve no one. Yeah. I was just thinking late night shopping, that's not a thing here cuz
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  that's just every day. It's just every day is late night. Yeah. And then like
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  even when it's a holiday stuff's open. Yeah. Like Yeah. No, bank holiday. They
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  have bank holidays. But it's just weird here. It was just uh Yeah. Normally they
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  used to open late, which was always fine. Yeah. She She's not opening at
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  all. That's weird. I was I had beer, so I was happy, but I still went to the pub
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  for lunch and dinner and just stayed
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  there. But yeah, I had to eat. Yeah.
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  So, I had uh I wouldn't say excitement, some disappointment the other night. Switched
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  two pre-orders when happened the other night here in the United States at
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  midnight the other night. Okay. On the 24th 4th. Yeah. Midnight like the olden
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  days except on the internet. Like the old days was more fun. I remember we we
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  used to go to EB Games at midnight for the launch of things. Yeah. But it was
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  to receive the game, not to pre-order it. That's right. Yeah. I remember the
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  pre-orders they went on the Wii launch. Yeah. They were like
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  um here if you're doing a pre-order and it it's a time thing, it'll be like
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  10:00 in the morning or something like it when everyone's on. Yeah. Right. No,
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  see that's saying back in the day it was fun like the Wii watched and we all went
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  to um well I went to [ __ ] what's the shopping center near Dan? Um
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  it's a big shopping center in Right. Yeah, I know. I was first in line at the
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  Sydney EB like the Sydney City. Yeah. Yeah. Right. That's right. You went to
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  the city and I also went to a couple of Halo launches and they were like super
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  fun. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's good stuff. And uh you'd line up outside EB Games
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  and they would, you know, let people in the roll the door one at a time. Yeah.
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  Well, anyway, so this happened on the internet and um my experience was I
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  wasn't sure if I was even going to get one, but I was like, well, let's have a
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  look. Yeah. So, I stayed up and I had the Walmart app open. Yeah. Looking at
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  the Switch, too, and it just said not available yet. Yeah. and you refresh
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  every now and again, right? At midnight, I refresh and the app crashes. And I was
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  like, "Oh, fuck." So, I reopen the app
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  and instantly it says, uh, you know those things where it's like prove
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  you're not a robot and you have to like hold the button, not like a recapture,
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  but you got to hold the button or whatever. And it just kept doing that
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  over and over and over again. And I was like, "Oh, God's sake." So, I I'm like,
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  "Okay." So, I opened the website instead of the app. And uh the website mostly
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  functions, but as soon as you try and go to a switch two page, same thing happens
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  and it shits the bed. So I was like, well that's not working, is it? And then
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  it was like it was it was like now I have to have one. Like you know what I
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  mean? Like it went from like it went from let's just have a look to now like
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  I have to have one. So, I went to um the Best Buy website
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  and that also they were just not available on there and I I found out
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  later they [ __ ] up the timing or something, but anyway, it doesn't
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  matter. Couldn't I would probably wouldn't have got one anyway. Um and
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  then I went to GameStop, same thing. Couldn't couldn't get the page to load
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  or anything like that. So, then I went to target.com. Y um and they had them
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  and I got one had one in my cart trying to check out literally [ __ ]
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  trying to check out. I've got my credit card in there and I'm just [ __ ]
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  submitting the order over and over and over again and every time it's like
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  something has gone wrong and I'm trying everything. I'm trying like just putting
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  my card in hitting submit trying um Apple Pay on my phone like just the open
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  Apple Pay just [ __ ] pay on there and it would open up the Apple Pay screen
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  and I'd be like yes let's go and then it would say no something went wrong. That
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  went on for maybe 10 minutes and I was like, "Ah, [ __ ] it. I'm going to bed."
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  Yeah. Um, and I'm glad I did because as per uh the article we've got in here and
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  other articles, apparently that continued for hours for people because
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  it's not it's you're not really competing against the other people.
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  You're competing against the scammers and their bots. And even if their bots
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  aren't working because of like the whole the button thing, they're still just
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  hammering the site. And even if you managed to place an order, all of the
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  retailers cancelled a bunch of them anyway because they sold more than they
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  actually had. So it was it's basically it was a [ __ ] disaster. And if you
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  got one, congratulations. Do you want me to pre-order you one now? No, no, no,
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  no. Okay, cuz I can do it right now from JB Hi-Fi. I could do it right now.
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  Really? I can check Hit check out button right now. All right, let me try this.
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  Let me go to walmart.com. Uh, yeah. Actually, I've ga take it out
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  of my cart because I have purchased stuff by accident before. Accident.
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  All right. Pre-order. All right. Switch to Mario with Mario Kart. That's Mario. Yeah.
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  Pre-order. Remove. Remove. Remove. Okay. Now, when I click pre-order, it doesn't
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  say anything on the product page, but on when I click it, it says, "We're sorry.
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  This item is demand, and we can't add it to your cart right now." M. So, I think
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  maybe they still haven't even figured out if they have enough. So, anyway, I
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  did not I did not pre-order a Switch, too. Not for lack of trying, but I was
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  not able to. I'll probably end up doing the same thing I did with the original
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  Switch. I'll just wander in the day of and go, if they've got one, I'll get
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  one, and if they don't, I don't care. And then not play it. Yeah. So, there's
• 19:03
  still the the Nintendo pre-orders haven't happened yet. They happen later.
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  I don't know why. Uh, but there's so the the process for that was you could if
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  you go to the Nintendo website and you're logged in, if you have
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  a Switch online account with a certain number of hours of play time over the
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  last few months, then you can click a button or I guess maybe you can click
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  the button anyway and then they'll just check all that stuff later. But then
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  anyway, if you meet this criteria, they will send you an email when their
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  pre-orders go up. Yep. And you'll be given the opportunity to pre-order. So,
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  they're kind of controlling it that way. So, that's still going to happen. And I
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  have registered for that. Yeah, that that should be good cuz that's you're
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  not going to be competing against um scalpers there. Yeah, because they'd
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  have to have met the criteria. Yeah. And they'll meet on one account and not
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  they're not going to be able to meet on multiple. So, scalpers are everything
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  now. I know. They're already on eBay for like 700 bucks. The [ __ ] are they?
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  They're not selling the not selling units, selling the pre-order itself.
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  Yep. Which is [ __ ] annoying. And eBay's eBay don't care. They just get
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  money out of it. Yeah. Yep.
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  Yeah. So anyway, yeah, switched to pre-orders like and then uh I felt less
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  bad about it cuz even like the Verge had an article and like staff members and
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  people like uh like uh like Jeff Keley I think said he couldn't get one and I was
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  like well if these people couldn't get one I'm glad I went to bed. I'm
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  surprised he's not someone who goes here's your give me one. Yeah. Yeah. like cuz
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  he's Yeah, he's one of the people who should just be getting a free one. We
• 20:38
  should be one of the ones getting a free one. The way I talk about Switch all the
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  time. That thing I never play. Maybe it'll be at PAX and I'll ask for
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  Actually, I don't know if Nintendo's even going to be there. We'll see. Oh,
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  yeah. I'm not going to be here. Oh, not next week. The week after.
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  The week after. Okay. This time to discuss that. But yeah, uh there was
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  also I saw this week people laughing about the fact that there had been a lot
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  of backlash about the price uh in particular the price of the games and
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  there were a lot of people saying no one's going to buy this. Nintendo has
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  [ __ ] dropped the ball or whatever. Turns out they're wrong. They are buying
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  it and they've bought all of them and it's it's going quite well. like they're
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  just the really the first ones to really be upping their prices. That's been
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  coming for a very long time. Yeah. Cuz I heard uh on a tech podcast I listened
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  to, they were talking about it and like I hadn't considered this, but like if
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  you look at the price of games over time compared to like inflation. Well,
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  they've never been cheaper than they are right now. This is the cheapest games
• 21:46
  have been if you compensate for inflation thing. And it's kind of it's
• 21:50
  it's actually quite strange that they not more expensive already. So
• 21:55
  yeah, I think we might just have to when I grew up like playing getting a Sega
• 21:59
  Mega Drive game that was $100, right? To buy a brand new game today is $100. Like
• 22:05
  it's that's 30 years where it didn't really It's not like they're getting
• 22:10
  cheaper to make. They keep Yeah. So I think we can expect this
• 22:16
  to become normal. Yeah, I think going to be 80 or $80 is the price here that
• 22:21
  everyone's [ __ ] crying about. I'm really interested to see how much um
• 22:25
  Grand Theft Auto 6 is going to be. Yeah, right. They can kind of sell it for
• 22:30
  whatever they want. Yeah. Like within reason. Within reason. I reckon that's
• 22:35
  going to I think that'll be more expensive than 80. Yeah. Right. Yep.
• 22:40
  Hyundai. Yep. With how how well everyone's waiting for that game, they
• 22:46
  can Yeah. They can Yeah. She said, "Chudge whatever they want. People are
• 22:49
  going to buy it." I'll tell promise you this now, Rockstar. You can price that
• 22:53
  thing at whatever you like. I'm not going to buy it anyway. So, you can make
• 22:57
  it $10. I'm not going to buy it. I don't care. Oh, actually, that's not true. If
• 23:01
  it's $10, I might buy it cuz I'd be like, it would trigger that thing in my
• 23:04
  brain where I was like, I got to get this before they put the price up. I'm
• 23:08
  not particularly interested in it. Please don't price it high cuz I am
• 23:12
  going to buy it. Yeah, cuz I'm actually in the middle of playing Grand Theft
• 23:15
  Auto 5 yet again and I'm going to play it again. Hang on. Is this because there
• 23:22
  are achievements or you actually enjoy this game? I enjoy that game. And
• 23:26
  because there are achievements back, I'm actually looking forward to playing
• 23:29
  through it again. And they've just it's just come back to Game Pass again and
• 23:34
  there's two versions of it on PC. Okay. Yeah. Cuz for those who don't
• 23:39
  know, Luke doesn't play games for enjoyment. plays them to get
• 23:41
  achievements, which is where my enjoyment comes from. I was going to say
• 23:44
  he derives enjoyment exclusively from acquiring achievements in games, which
• 23:49
  is sad, but I'm going back to playing a game that was before I really got into
• 23:54
  Yes. Um, achievements. I would like to talk about this. So, what have you been
• 23:59
  playing? I've been playing Oblivion. Okay. Just the old Xbox 360 version. No,
• 24:04
  I've been playing the remastered version. Uhhuh. This game is
• 24:08
  pretty. Yeah. Yeah. I've seen some I've played I I got to the character creation
• 24:15
  screen and then I was like I was like I'm going to only play this.
• 24:21
  I can tell cuz the even just the music I I I realized I think I played Oblivion
• 24:27
  more than I played Skyrim to be honest. I played Oblivion a [ __ ] lot back in
• 24:33
  the day. like, "Yeah, I'm remembering this game now cuz I remember I went
• 24:37
  through I closed all the Oblivion Gates and just I'm remembering it all now and
• 24:42
  I'm going, I love this game." I finished this game at least twice, which is not
• 24:46
  common for me to even finish a game at all. So, like, yeah, as soon as it
• 24:50
  loaded up and the music started, I was like, "Oh, this is I'm going to be I'm
• 24:56
  being taken back to and they've even kept bought 360 to play it." They've
• 25:02
  even kept some of the mistakes in there. Like there's some voice acting mistakes
• 25:05
  in there. They're still in there. There's a voice actress goes, "Hold on,
• 25:09
  let me take that line again." And that's still in there. So, it's just they've
• 25:12
  just updated the graphics. That's funny. Well, they have done I did see in the
• 25:17
  Well, they said this in the thing, they did re-record voices for nonhuman races
• 25:22
  because it used to be that um they because of the disc space. This
• 25:28
  is what they said in the in the little launch video thing that um they didn't
• 25:31
  have disc space to have completely different voices for all the you know
• 25:36
  like the kajit and the uh what are the reptile ar what are they called? I can't
• 25:41
  remember at the moment starts with a I can't remember the lizard. The lizards
• 25:45
  lizards green kids. Um and the orcs yeah um anyway so but apparently they've got
• 25:52
  new voices for for those because huge install. Yeah, it's likeund and
• 25:57
  something gig, right? Yeah. Which I was expecting. Normally with like these
• 26:01
  games like remaster, they still been quite small, but this is I'm actually
• 26:06
  excited for them doing Fallout 3, but we'll get to that later. Yeah. Yeah.
• 26:12
  Yeah. I saw something float up about that. But yeah, so the other interesting
• 26:16
  thing for me about this is that Oblivion remaster is Unreal Engine 5. So, it's
• 26:22
  the new Unreal Engine, but it's got the old engine behind the scenes as the
• 26:27
  puppet master apparently. I don't know how exactly they did this, but I think
• 26:30
  that's really interesting that the old game is still there. It's still there.
• 26:34
  That's sort of running everything and
• 26:36
  handling it and then Unreal with a Yeah.
• 26:41
  Cool. But no, I do I was not expecting it to be this look this good. It just
• 26:47
  looks like a new game. Like, yeah. And I think I'm really enjoying this because
• 26:52
  like Sh's come out quite a few times and we've all played it a few times. Yes.
• 26:56
  Yes. This is a bit like that, but it's I don't quite remember the story. I don't
• 27:00
  quite remember the quest. So, it's completely new again. Yeah. It's not
• 27:05
  like in Skyrim where I start a new game of that and I I'm going to go to right
• 27:09
  run and here I don't remember any of the names of the cities or anything. Yeah.
• 27:13
  Right. But I'm already joined the major's guild and the fighters guild.
• 27:17
  I'm gonna have to That's the thing is as soon as I started I was like I got to
• 27:21
  the character creation and I was like I'm gonna have to wait because I'm going
• 27:25
  to abandon every other game. Yeah. If I start this and then maybe I should just
• 27:28
  do it anyway. It doesn't really matter. I just I was like no no no I kind of
• 27:32
  want to spend a bit more time in Death Straining which I have done. Oh yes.
• 27:34
  It's gotten a bit slowed down. Definitely. It does. And that's why you
• 27:39
  need to be careful with trying to deliver everything. That's I'm going to
• 27:43
  get [ __ ] bored. Yes. But then when you do progress, you get like the
• 27:47
  motorbike and I think you get a car. Like it does speed up a little bit. But
• 27:50
  yeah, I just got a quest where I was like, it said to me, uh, you sure you
• 27:56
  want to deliver this on foot? It's pretty heavy. And I was like, oh, that
• 27:59
  might be a hint to not take that yet. Yeah, maybe I can use that bike outside,
• 28:04
  but I know there's a bike outside the building that I can't use yet. So, I was
• 28:07
  like, "Oh, okay." Yep. Yep. You want to get the bike and then Yeah. I I do want
• 28:12
  to go back to that game as well, though. But this is just Oblivion's just so much
• 28:15
  easier. Yeah, I'm probably going to end up just playing Oblivion.
• 28:20
  But yeah, cuz I need to become ahead of the fighter skill, the major skill, the
• 28:23
  thieves guild, the assassin's guild. I need to take over all Grey Wolf. Gray
• 28:26
  Fox. I mean, gray fox. Grey Wolf. Gray Fox. And then the uh the Brotherhood.
• 28:32
  Yep. Dark Brotherhood. Dark Brotherhood. I need to do them all again.
• 28:37
  No, just such a great game. And yeah, and and I'm sure you've
• 28:43
  seen like Yeah, evidently the same company that did this remaster because
• 28:47
  this isn't Bethesda Direct. No, they worked with some Virtuos I think or
• 28:53
  somewhere some company in Paris and evidently they're doing the same thing for Fallout 3.
• 29:00
  Okay. That's confirmed. I saw there was something about it.
• 29:05
  It sounds like it was confirmed as much as this was okay. before it dropped.
• 29:10
  That's the other thing, too, is that that like had this not leaked the week
• 29:16
  before, this would have just like come out of nowhere. Yep. Cuz and it
• 29:20
  obviously like all the marketing stuff, they were thinking it was going to come
• 29:23
  out of nowhere because they did the the video that I watched was this long thing
• 29:26
  about the tech and all that kind of stuff like I said. Uh and then at the
• 29:30
  end they were like, "Oh, by the way, it's available now." Now, I was like,
• 29:34
  "What?" And that's what I that's I honestly think that's what they were
• 29:37
  aiming for. This was one of their big and you can play it now like they did
• 29:41
  with Fallout Shelter and how I think they seemed like this. The only reason
• 29:46
  it didn't happen is cuz the studio that did it put up that gallery on their
• 29:50
  website early by mistake and someone saw it and it's like ah that's a shame. It
• 29:55
  is. Stop. Why is my alarm going off? Cuz
• 29:59
  it's time to wake up and do the podcast. But Fallout 3, I'm pretty sure cuz if
• 30:04
  they do Fallout 3 and it looks this good. Yeah. Yeah, I'll replay that for sure.
• 30:11
  Because if they do New Vegas, even better. Oh. Uh, see the only
• 30:17
  thing is I don't think they do New Vegas. Why? Not really Bethesda. Yeah.
• 30:21
  Yeah, you're right. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So, so I like I said, I
• 30:26
  didn't get very far. I just got to character creation there. I I saw in the
• 30:29
  video that like leveling and some other things are different. How How are you
• 30:34
  finding that? I you didn't notice. I I thought this was the same where you had
• 30:39
  to sleep to level up and you're doing the maybe that stuff's the same, but
• 30:44
  they did they just said they've made some changes, some quality of life
• 30:47
  changes to leveling and stuff. Okay. I know I'm doing a lot of jumping around
• 30:52
  at the moment. Okay. So, is it a requirement to leveling to your
• 30:57
  acrobatics? Yes. So, you got to get your acrobatics up. The only way to do that
• 31:01
  is really to jump. So you're just jumping everywhere to build that up. And
• 31:04
  then once that levels up, yeah, you've got your experience bar which goes up
• 31:08
  when you level up different things. And then you can then sleep and then
• 31:13
  increase your strength and stuff and Mhm. But yeah, so yeah, at the moment
• 31:18
  jumping and sneaking everywhere and I've already gone straight to the bow.
• 31:23
  Ah, don't Okay, I'm I'm going to try not to do that. I I I I already I've I've
• 31:28
  already strengthened my skill far too much up in the bow and I can't actually
• 31:31
  attack with anything else at the moment. I'm going to try not to maybe I'll just
• 31:35
  try and not use a bow at all because that's Oh, that's why you I always do is
• 31:39
  just end up shooting them with a bow from a distance. Yeah. And even now at
• 31:43
  the moment, it's actually easier for it's better for me to shoot them with a
• 31:45
  bow close up because my Oh, that's all
• 31:49
  we're face. Yes. Over and over. All right.
• 31:56
  Oh man. Yeah. Get on it. Let's do this. I will. And uh some other news related
• 32:01
  this week. Uh I think people were curious and probably the makers of this
• 32:06
  mod were concerned. There's a a mod called Sky Oblivion, which is a a remake
• 32:11
  of Oblivion being made in the Skyrim engine. Yes. And that's been ongoing for
• 32:17
  a very long time. And people and the developers worried, are they going to
• 32:20
  shut us down now? M and Bethesda have come out and said, "No, it's fine. Fine.
• 32:26
  You're not going to compete with what we just released, so go for it." And yeah,
• 32:29
  what you're doing is largely pointless now, but uh please proceed. Yeah. Yes.
• 32:34
  Because I don't know. This looks better than Skyrim to me at the moment. Yeah.
• 32:39
  And absolutely, from what I've seen. Yeah. I think um
• 32:46
  Yeah. Cuz it's like it's Unreal Engine 5. It's like and they're using all the
• 32:50
  new features of the engine. It's just like another another level. Yeah. So
• 32:54
  like yeah, go make it and that and it's good experience for you. You might
• 33:00
  get a job out of it, but yeah, play this. Doing mod stuff's good for that.
• 33:05
  If you want to go well if you want to go become a drone and get worn to a husk.
• 33:12
  Yes. During crunch, that's a good way to do it. I'm I'm just
• 33:17
  messing. It's not always like that. I'm sure it depends where you are. I think
• 33:21
  yeah, there's always going to be crunch. That's I'm going to assume if you work
• 33:25
  at Bethesda that probably happens, but maybe it's worth it for you. No, but I
• 33:29
  think what we what sort of I think we spoke about last week like Bethesda's
• 33:34
  maybe lost that um stay back and work on your own type
• 33:39
  of stuff to just stay back and work on this. Like they've lost that bit of
• 33:42
  independence that I think they used to have. Sure. Yeah. I think crunch is one of
• 33:48
  those probably the most unfortunate thing about the game industry because
• 33:52
  it's one of those things where it's like the film industry I imag well from what
• 33:57
  I've seen in the film industry is that you've got people there's a never-
• 34:00
  ending line of people who love the thing the game or the film or whatever and
• 34:05
  they want to do it. Yep. And so you could just treat them like [ __ ] and just
• 34:10
  grind them up and then spit them out the other side and then there's always a
• 34:14
  thousand more kids who want to work for [ __ ] all work 16our days for [ __ ] all. I
• 34:20
  sort of also get it because while you're making the game, you're not making any
• 34:25
  money off of that, right? It's just all cost. You don't make the game until it's
• 34:29
  out. So you do want to get it out as quickly as possible. So that's where
• 34:32
  it's a we're setting this date, get it done. Yeah. Yeah. And it's hard because
• 34:36
  I, you know, I work in software. It is hard because in theory, especially with
• 34:41
  something as complicated as a game like, you know, like a Skyrim or Oblivion or a
• 34:45
  Starfield or whatever, there will always be bugs. Yes. Always. So, in theory, you
• 34:52
  could just sit on it forever and never release it if you were like aiming for
• 34:56
  it to just be like bug free. Well, I love like at the beginning of this game,
• 35:00
  it basically goes, "Hey, here's a story line. you can go or you can go any
• 35:05
  direction you want. It actually just says that at the start. And yeah,
• 35:09
  there's a point in Oblivion where if you don't do any of the main quest, then you
• 35:15
  can go out in the world and everything's fine, but if you trigger like I think
• 35:19
  maybe if you close that first gate, if you get that far, then they start
• 35:23
  opening up everywhere. Yeah. And you kind of have to finish the main quest to
• 35:27
  stop that from happening anymore. Yeah. So, yeah, I actually unfortunately just did that.
• 35:33
  Well, that's all right. Just go close them all. I like closing them all. Yeah,
• 35:37
  it's my thing. But that's why I sort of like I kind of like what Rockstar has
• 35:41
  sort of done with Grand Theft Auto 6. It's coming.
• 35:46
  Yeah, you'll get it. You'll get it. Calm down. We're not telling you a date
• 35:50
  because we don't know what the date is yet. But I guarantee they're still doing Crunch.
• 35:56
  Yeah. Yeah. At certain point, but this is the Yeah. Like with Cyber Punk, it's
• 36:01
  like maybe you should have just not said, but it's hard.
• 36:06
  Cyberpunk, keep going back. They could have fixed that all that problem so
• 36:10
  easily. I know. Just Sorry, PlayStation 3 and Xbox One. Stop coming to it. Yeah,
• 36:17
  you guys are out. That's what they should have done. That destroyed it for
• 36:20
  them cuz remember we played it on the Series X, didn't we? Mhm. Also, yeah.
• 36:26
  And we Yeah, we had no issues. Couple of bugs. I had one bug. I had to do a hard
• 36:30
  restart and that was it. And Yeah. Right. I never did. Played through it,
• 36:34
  finished it, loved it. Yeah. Yep. I mean, the version that was out at launch
• 36:40
  compared to what it is now. Yeah. With the Especially with the expansion is
• 36:44
  like I I wish it was at launch what it is now. Yes. Because it's hard to I'm
• 36:50
  not going to play through the whole thing again. No. But I do wish that it
• 36:53
  had all the I think if they had have gotten rid of those other consoles, it
• 36:57
  could have been closer to what it is now. Yeah. Because they would have spent
• 37:00
  the time on on implementing all this stuff. An unplayable game. Yeah. Yeah.
• 37:05
  Cuz the the changes they made over time were like [ __ ] It's so good now. It's
• 37:10
  such a good game. It's just so hard to go back and just replay it. Yeah. I
• 37:14
  can't do the whole Especially when I completed everything 100%. I don't have
• 37:18
  time. Yes, I'm playing um Breath of the
• 37:22
  Wild again from scr from the start with LRA. I so wanted to play that game.
• 37:29
  Yeah, well, you can have a switch. Somewhere in somewhere in that house of
• 37:32
  yours is a Switch. I know it. The weapons just annoy me in that game.
• 37:39
  No, you're not allowed to do that because what game is it? There's a game
• 37:43
  that you like, a recentish game that you enjoy that also has weapon. Oh, no. I'm
• 37:49
  fine with weapon degradation. I'm Oblivion has it. Yeah. Okay. But the
• 37:56
  problem with what I found with Breath of the Wild is I need to have like three or
• 37:59
  four weapons to go into one battle. Oh, okay. Like it was you had to switch so
• 38:06
  often. Okay. Trying to think what what's the game I'm thinking of. Oh, and it was uh a
• 38:12
  vowed, I think. Um that's No, they
• 38:16
  didn't degrade, did they? No. There was the upskilling you had to do
• 38:21
  and you had to got to certain point where you had to focus on it a lot. I'm
• 38:23
  thinking of something. There was something I was I I don't know. I've got
• 38:27
  no problem degradation. That's fine. That happens. I'm doing that at the
• 38:31
  moment. I' got my repair hammer and I go and fix my stuff. But okay, you can't
• 38:36
  fix stuff in No, it's just Breath of the Wild. this is going to break and then
• 38:40
  you need to get a new one. And it does happen quite quickly. You're right.
• 38:43
  Yeah, depending on what what it is. Yeah, when you get the Master Sword, it
• 38:46
  doesn't though. I think I think you got to recharge that. But also, but it still
• 38:51
  lasts a lot longer, but I I'm not going to struggle to get that far. I just I can't.
• 38:58
  Well, anyway, we're we're playing it. She thinks it's fun. She mentioned just
• 39:00
  randomly in the car the other day we're driving and she goes, "That was so funny
• 39:05
  when those goblins were having a dance party and then you threw a rock on them."
• 39:10
  Like you there be cold blood cuz they were I was like, "Yeah, that was funny."
• 39:16
  Yeah. So, does she play or is she just watching at this stage? She's just
• 39:21
  watching, which is ideal for me. Yeah. That means I just get to play games and
• 39:25
  she watches and she's like, "Come on, let's go play that game." And I'm like,
• 39:27
  "Okay, sure. Um, she will take she will have a go and like and she's pretty
• 39:33
  good. Like she's good with a controller like better than I would have been at
• 39:36
  her age. Well, if we didn't have games like that. Now, are you teaching her to
• 39:39
  play inverted? Yes. Excellent. Yes. Not teaching her. I'm just That's how the
• 39:45
  controller is. So, she she's going to be learning it whether she wants to or not.
• 39:49
  Cuz if you're taking it over, this is how you get That's how I taught my niece
• 39:51
  and nephew as well. Yeah. Like cuz I'm taking over my controller. I'm not
• 39:55
  switching it over. This is And I can't play the other way. I can't either. It's
• 40:00
  It's instant change for me. As soon as I load up a game, if I push up and it
• 40:03
  looks up, I'm like, "No, that's the one feature I wish we lost when they moved
• 40:09
  on from the Xbox 360. You could set that on by default for all games." I
• 40:14
  remember. But now we're really becoming the minority,
• 40:17
  you know? Strange though, and it's it's because of like flight sims for sure.
• 40:22
  But I can't can't not do it. It's from playing too much X-Wing versus TIE
• 40:28
  Fighter. I can burn into my muscle memory on PC. I can now if I'm playing with mouse.
• 40:34
  I'm not actually good with a mouse anymore because I haven't played a game
• 40:38
  like that in ages. I'm in between and so yeah, but controller. No. Yeah, it's got
• 40:45
  to be inverted. Yep. Otherwise, I just like end up looking the wrong
• 40:51
  direction. Like I've had some games that I've played that you can't invert. I
• 40:56
  just Well, I'm uninstalling that cuz I can't play it. It'll hurt my brain too
• 41:00
  much. Yeah. I mean, it depends. I If it's first person, yeah, it has to be.
• 41:07
  Otherwise, I'm not going to be able to play. Oh, yeah. First person. Third
• 41:09
  person, that's what I'm talking about. If it's other games, like a puzzle game
• 41:12
  or something, I can normally I'm trying to think. Third person, maybe I
• 41:17
  could wrap my head around it, but I don't know. I'd have to try. I might be
• 41:22
  wrong about that. For some reason, I feel like maybe I could do it if it was
• 41:25
  third person because it's different. But Oh, that's Zelda.
• 41:29
  It's definitely inverted. I had to invert it. Okay, never mind. Never mind.
• 41:33
  Yep. Yeah. Okay. We can't retrain our brains. We're too old. Yeah. Way too
• 41:39
  old. Yeah. Unfortunately, you're Oh, yeah. Happy birthday. By No, thank you.
• 41:42
  Yes. Yeah. Sorry. I'm 44.
• 41:48
  Yeah. Sure. And you're 45? Yeah. That'll
• 41:51
  be math works. Don't remind me. We did. Did we talk about this on the
• 41:56
  show? I got I saw a thing the other day and I was like, "No [ __ ] way." It's
• 41:59
  the 20th she's 20th anniversary of Revenge of the Sith. Mhm. Yes. I saw
• 42:03
  that as well. How the [ __ ] did that happen? I remember Midnight Screening
• 42:08
  going to see that. And I was an adult when that came out. How was it 20 years
• 42:13
  then? Yeah. Not like just an adult like I'm 18 or anything. Like an adult adult
• 42:18
  full-time job living at a home. Hell, I was married. Yeah. No, I was I was not
• 42:25
  married, but I was like I took my little my little brother. It wasn't my little
• 42:29
  brother anymore. It was just my brother. Yeah.
• 42:33
  Yeah. So strange. But I was thinking
• 42:36
  like remember the the gap between when
• 42:41
  so Return of the Jedi to Phantom Menace
• 42:44
  was what 15 years and uh I wasn't No,
• 42:49
  not even 13 years. No, no, it would have been 83 to 99. Okay. So, yeah. Okay. So,
• 42:55
  16 years. Yeah. And and so the gap from from us waiting for more Star Wars would
• 43:01
  be less than that, right? We didn't see, you know, we weren't that aware of it
• 43:05
  until we would have been a bit older, but that felt like forever when they
• 43:08
  were like, "There's new Star Wars." And it was like, "Oh my god, it's actually
• 43:11
  not that long, is it?" No, apparently not cuz it's been 20 years since
• 43:15
  Revenge. I mean, I know there's been Star Wars since then, but I almost don't
• 43:18
  count them in a way. Yeah. Like they were different because we already Yeah.
• 43:24
  But just that that because the Phantom Menace coming out was like a big deal.
• 43:30
  Yes. in a way that the sequels and stuff weren't as big a deal. They weren't a
• 43:35
  big deal. No, the prequels I remember there were people lining up. I used to
• 43:38
  watch a site called countdown.com. There were people just lined up to buy tickets
• 43:42
  like months before and because we were we were always told there's not we're
• 43:46
  not getting any more Star Wars. Star Wars is finished. There's three of them.
• 43:48
  That's it. It's done forever. And then suddenly it was like, "No, you're
• 43:51
  getting more." Yep. And it felt like we waited so long and finally, but it
• 43:55
  wasn't that long. It was like 10 years max. It really was for us. But for some
• 43:59
  reason it does seem longer. Yeah, it feels like we waited an infinite amount
• 44:04
  of time and then but but yeah, it's been been way longer since Revenge of the
• 44:10
  Sith. And I will say like Revenge of the Sith, I sort of like that was getting
• 44:14
  close back to what Star Wars was, I think. Yeah, it's definitely the best of
• 44:18
  the the prequels. I on a rewatch I was I'm like, h yeah, it's not very good,
• 44:22
  but it's not very good, but it's best of them all. like there's a lot of fighting
• 44:27
  and it's fast-paced again. Yeah. Yeah. I think the
• 44:33
  um my my my controversial Star Wars opinion is that the Anakin Obi-Wan fight
• 44:38
  is rid is stupid and it's too much. There's bits of it that are really good
• 44:43
  and then it's just like [ __ ] off. Let's wrap it up. It's just too much.
• 44:48
  Exactly. So, it's too much.
• 44:52
  And then when she dies of being sad. Oh, don't remind me. Yeah, that's it, too.
• 44:59
  And then the the the worst part is that it could be ambiguous, except there's
• 45:03
  literally a [ __ ] robot there that goes, "There's nothing wrong with her,
• 45:06
  mate. She just doesn't want to live anymore." It's like, "No, cut that line
• 45:10
  out. Come on, leave it ambiguous at least." Like, she just gave birth to two
• 45:14
  children and she's just um checking out.
• 45:18
  Stupid. Yeah. Yeah. But anyway, no, we just don't think about it. Have you
• 45:24
  started watching Andor yet? Cuz I think that is out. Is it? I didn't know it was
• 45:28
  out. I think it is. Andor or it is very very very close.
• 45:35
  It is out. First three episodes are out. Is it
• 45:41
  right? I remember they were releasing April 22nd. Yeah, it is. Okay. Okay. I
• 45:46
  need to be I'll be watching that for next week then. I've been watching Black
• 45:49
  Mirror. Um the latest season of Black Mirror. They've just done another Star
• 45:53
  Trek one, haven't they? Yeah, the USS Mallister. Yep. Yeah. I never watched
• 45:59
  Black Mirror. I think there's really I've seen like one or two episodes and I
• 46:03
  think it's I might just go and watch the V the episodes. Sure. The the key Yeah.
• 46:09
  ones you should watch. Um watch Bander Snatch. That was good. That was like a
• 46:13
  little movie that they did. The choose your own adventure movie. Okay. That's
• 46:16
  really good. I watched the one where it's the guys that are
• 46:21
  playing the virtual reality and then just end up Yeah. ruin each other and
• 46:25
  then the girlfriends are just sort of just go they they got to have their boys
• 46:30
  died. That's a [ __ ] funny episode. And uh yeah, some of them are so so
• 46:36
  good. This season is good. It's [ __ ] dark though. Uh there was
• 46:40
  like the first episode of this season. I guess I won't spoil anything, but it's
• 46:44
  just it's very it's very dark, very depressing, but also it's kind of
• 46:49
  like it's it's close enough to like you could see that that might happen. And
• 46:55
  it's Yeah, it's I was reading something that I think they're sort of maybe
• 46:59
  getting to the end of it that they're sort of starting to run out of I don't
• 47:02
  know, man. This season makes me think maybe not because there was like I said,
• 47:06
  there's been a couple there there's one episode that I thought was really
• 47:09
  boring. Um, and I I think I did doze off in it a bit. Uh, and I've heard people
• 47:16
  are really mixed on it, but all the others have been really good. Like, uh,
• 47:19
  yeah, it might have just I read that I read saw an article. It might have been
• 47:23
  then that episode just come out. Oh, I could do I could do slight spoilers, I
• 47:26
  suppose, right? Cuz you don't Okay. Okay. I don't care about spoilers.
• 47:30
  As we everyone knows the rules for a movie, you get a week. No, for a movie
• 47:36
  two weeks. For a TV show, you get one week. Okay, if you really want to watch
• 47:40
  something, you should be able to watch it in that time frame. So, the first
• 47:44
  episode is about this couple who they're married and they um they do the same
• 47:50
  thing on their anniversary of a year. And anyway, she um has like a a brain
• 47:54
  aneurysm or something like that and they say, "Oh, you know, like she um she may
• 47:58
  never wake up." But then this woman comes in, she's like, "I'm from this new
• 48:01
  company. We have this thing. we put um we can replace the part of her brain
• 48:06
  that's not functioning with like this um with this system and it's cloud-based
• 48:12
  and so um we offload the the processing to the cloud and then blah blah and it's
• 48:18
  like you know it's like a little bit like yeah okay sure whatever but then so
• 48:21
  then don't look too closely at this yeah yeah but then it's like okay and and
• 48:25
  then eventually he's like well I don't have a choice do I otherwise she's gone
• 48:28
  basically so they're okay so they agree to do Um and then so she but she's got to they
• 48:35
  said the only um downside is that she will have to sleep for longer during the
• 48:40
  night because we have to um like you can't use up all the server time. So
• 48:45
  it's like so there's like a period where she's going to have to be offline or
• 48:48
  whatever and it's like okay but then anyway so the it actually does kind of
• 48:52
  make sense. The premise of it is as they go along this so then they get the thing
• 48:56
  and then they're like oh yeah but you have to pay for the subscription and uh
• 49:00
  and then they're like okay it's like like $300 a month or something like that
• 49:04
  and then in a certain point um she's like he's like she's sleeping more and
• 49:09
  they're like oh yeah you want to upgrade to the plus if you want her to be awake
• 49:12
  more often or whatever and and then she just starts doing
• 49:16
  ads in the middle of conversations and stuff and then and then they're like oh
• 49:20
  yeah you're going to have to upgrade. It's It's really fun, but it gets it
• 49:23
  gets really dark though because Yeah. And it's uh It's It's good. It's just
• 49:30
  Yeah. I think I might just It's like on the edge of that like you could see
• 49:33
  them. You could see that happening.
• 49:36
  Yeah. Just that scummy [ __ ] like
• 49:41
  Yes. Everything comes back to money. Look, I might just try and find a list
• 49:45
  of like what which Black Mirror episode should I watch and just go and watch
• 49:48
  them. Oh, yeah. So, it only works in uh in within reception area, but then they
• 49:54
  upgrade the system, but then they're like, "Oh, yeah, you have to pay extra
• 49:56
  for the for the travel plan where you can like leave your hometown otherwise
• 50:01
  they leave and she just goes." Yeah, it's
• 50:06
  funny even though that was really good. Yeah. Okay.
• 50:11
  Depressing as [ __ ] No, it's weird because I do know I've quite like Black
• 50:16
  Mirror. I just don't watch it for some reason.
• 50:19
  Yeah. No, recommend it. And uh the other good one was Paul
• 50:24
  Gamati's in one where it's it's was
• 50:27
  called uh eulogy I think where
• 50:32
  uh it was a really good episode where it was about like an ex-girlfriend of his
• 50:36
  has died and he gets a call and it's um a service that the the daughter of the
• 50:42
  woman has organized and they send you a little device and you put it on and look
• 50:47
  at photos of the person and remember things. Okay. records them for the for
• 50:53
  the funeral. And uh anyway, it's it's there's quite a lot to it. The story is
• 50:56
  complicated. It's good. Like he's it's basically him remembering what happened
• 51:01
  between the two of them and realizing that maybe he was a [ __ ] and like and
• 51:05
  whereas he has always blamed her or whatever. It's really good. But also the
• 51:08
  technology aspect of it is just like oh so interesting.
• 51:12
  It's good. Good episode. I like Yeah. Cuz that's the whole thing Black Bear is
• 51:16
  that whole sort of connection with technology and where it can lead and
• 51:20
  where Yeah. Yeah. And it's Yeah. Sometimes it's like really dark and
• 51:23
  sometimes it's really funny. And Yeah. Like the one with um this is an older
• 51:27
  one with what's her name? Ron Howard's daughter. Bryce Dallas Howard where it's
• 51:31
  like you have like like a social score like the you know like the Chinese
• 51:35
  social score thing y and that and then yeah like that one's very funny too
• 51:40
  where but like again funny but like you go oh that could happen. That type of
• 51:46
  stuff is sort of already happening. That's what I mean. Yeah. And then like
• 51:49
  yeah, you make a mistake and your score drops and then you can't get a job and
• 51:53
  you're like yeah the price of your groceries goes up based on your your
• 51:57
  ratio of your score and stuff. Sort of um the awful with that as well when they
• 52:02
  go to a planet it's all about your ratings and Yeah. Right. Yep. So if you
• 52:08
  do something you like people go Yep. you upvote you, they'll downvote you. And if
• 52:11
  you go down too low, people will treat
• 52:14
  you like crap. And Yeah. There you go. But yeah, and that's we
• 52:20
  are sort of at that stage. Well, look at um I'm going to bring up that's how I
• 52:24
  judge people. How many friends you got on uh on X? Well, it's not even that.
• 52:29
  Like look at Neil Gaiman at the moment. Like he's been down and
• 52:36
  now he must cancelled. [ __ ] we don't have any. Yes, I
• 52:42
  brought him up. I know. Yeah, I know. What are you doing? I don't have any
• 52:46
  news about him this week. Dan's not here. He probably has news. Yes, I'm
• 52:51
  sure. We'll take advantage of the fact that Dan's not here. We'll take
• 52:54
  advantage of Dan. Yes, next week when he's next week. When he's here, I'm sure
• 52:59
  he'll have Neil Gaming News for us. Even though I think we should stop talking
• 53:03
  about it, but what do I know? Um, I mentioned last week or the week before
• 53:09
  that I wanted to play an online game with you guys again because we don't
• 53:13
  doing that. I suggested I floated Conan and I don't know if you floated on the
• 53:16
  podcast or if it was later you suggested Minecraft. I suggested Minecraft.
• 53:21
  So we have a Minecraft. We do. I I haven't seen my invite yet cuz I need to
• 53:25
  install it and I will. Okay. I was going to say of what you I've sent you guys an
• 53:29
  invite and every time I log on there I'm like still just [ __ ] me in here any
• 53:34
  other buildings or anything. Oh like resource wise. Resource wise let me know
• 53:38
  what you're looking for. I will go start decided I'm going to start a strip mine.
• 53:44
  Okay. Is that as sexy as it sounds? Yes. Cool. Just next to the house there's
• 53:49
  going to be a strip mine. It's just naked Luke mining everywhere.
• 53:54
  There is a canyon next to our Okay. camp. So, I might just start on the
• 53:59
  other side of the canyon. Okay. Yep. All right. Well, yeah, I sent you an invite.
• 54:04
  It's a just a um they have two plans that is
• 54:09
  uh one is you and two people and I was
• 54:12
  like oh that's perfect unless we want to
• 54:16
  extend the offer to patrons at some point. We'll see. I I don't want to do
• 54:22
  that yet. I'm I'm I'm just floating the idea. If that would interest you, let us
• 54:25
  know. Yeah. Yeah. But it's also possible we will lose interest in this within in
• 54:30
  about 5 minutes. Yeah. So, I don't want to actually make that official until we
• 54:34
  determine if you let us know how interested you are, that might sway us a
• 54:38
  little bit. Exly. That's why I'm bringing it up is that if that's
• 54:40
  something you're interested in, if that would entice you, let us know and maybe
• 54:45
  I can upgrade and get some more. I'm going to play I'm going to stay up
• 54:48
  tonight playing a blooming, but tomorrow I'm going to play Minecraft. Okay, cool.
• 54:54
  Well, that's the good thing about it is that you can just potter around a little
• 54:57
  bit and you don't have to commit to it. It's so different though. That's the
• 55:01
  other thing. So when you ask me what do I what when you say what what you want
• 55:05
  resource wise I don't know because there's stuff in there that so I played
• 55:11
  it we've talked about this before I played it when it was in beta that was
• 55:14
  quite simple and I played tons and tons and tons of it and that's what I was
• 55:19
  used to and then they over time they introduced things like they didn't even
• 55:22
  have hunger or anything like that when I originally played it. You ate food that
• 55:26
  restored your hearts and that's just how it worked. Yeah, but now you have like a
• 55:29
  hunger and then now there's magic. Your hunger affects you also. You're
• 55:33
  sprinting and then Yeah. And then like a a [ __ ] traveling trades uh you know
• 55:39
  trader, a merchant showed up in our thing. There was a merchant in our
• 55:44
  little camp when I started it the other day. Okay. And so that that's new. And
• 55:49
  like so anyway, there's just it's it's very different. Farming is a big thing
• 55:55
  now. I I've been I've seen some mods though that are insane. But I just hope
• 55:59
  we get leaf. There's like dead leaves on the ground that you can pick up and do
• 56:04
  stuff with now. It's just all this new stuff that I'm like I don't know. I
• 56:06
  don't know what that's for yet. So So anyway, that's why I don't know the
• 56:11
  answer to that. I have to figure it out as a team. Well, that's fine. I'll just
• 56:15
  start my ship mine. I'll create some chests and just put [ __ ] in. Yeah, I
• 56:18
  assume we want I would have said iron. I go iron, diamond. Yeah, iron diamond
• 56:24
  gold and obsidian if you can get it. All right, that's like what I think based on
• 56:31
  when when we were originally playing it, that's what there was to get. So I think
• 56:36
  that's you got to stick with the basics. That that would still be useful, would it not?
• 56:40
  Yeah. And it's named Tortuga. Tuga
• 56:45
  because I named it Tortuga. Mhm. Because I thought that would be funny. And then
• 56:51
  I don't know if it did this on purpose because I said that called it Tortuga,
• 56:56
  but there are [ __ ] turtles everywhere. And Tortuga means turtle in Spanish. So
• 57:03
  awesome. I like I said, could be a coincidence, but that's a bit weird.
• 57:08
  That's a bit weird. Yeah. But I I am actually kind of happy we went Minecraft
• 57:13
  over Conan because why is it? Because the issues we
• 57:18
  had with Conan last time. the issues we had. I only needed one more achievement
• 57:22
  in Conan. Oh, yeah. Jumping someone's head. Yep. And all I did would not I got
• 57:28
  to a point where I just knew where all cuz that was just you needed iron for
• 57:32
  that. Yes. And it was I knew where iron was. I just run get the iron and come
• 57:36
  back. It's But there's more to Conan than that you guys. Okay. Not for you.
• 57:42
  Yeah. I um Yeah, cuz I was remembering to So if anyone doesn't know, we talked
• 57:48
  about doing Con and Exiles. We did have a Conan XL server for a long time, but
• 57:53
  there's an the the problem with it on the Xbox in particular is
• 57:59
  that I think what like a patch came out and they and they just reset the world.
• 58:04
  Reset the world. And then I emailed them and I said, "What the fuck?" And they
• 58:06
  were like, "Oh yeah, it's not compatible with the new patch version, so that's
• 58:10
  that." And I was like, "Wait, so this could just happen at any time? Like,
• 58:14
  [ __ ] that." And that's what we're paying for. No, we lost everything, which I think
• 58:20
  Minecraft has got that sorted. I would hope so. It's Microsoft running
• 58:25
  it now. Yeah. So, yeah, that was through GPortal. And I
• 58:29
  mean, not their fault, I suppose, but still frustrating. I may actually build
• 58:35
  cuz I may build stuff to get us all achievements. Okay, do it. like the stuff about like
• 58:41
  jumping off slime for 60 m or something or Okay, so anyway, the world is
• 58:47
  multiple realms chasm I think it's called and uh and I named the map or
• 58:53
  whatever they asked me the names for things I put Tortuga as the name for the
• 58:57
  the world. Excellent. I will be there tomorrow. Very good. Yeah, you see my
• 59:03
  little hvel. There's only a hole at the moment. Creeper blew a hole in the side
• 59:07
  of it. had to fix that. Yeah. Do you want me to put a fence around?
• 59:13
  Keep them out. Yeah, I do. Set off some lighting. Yeah. Okay. Yep. Yeah. Yeah.
• 59:17
  Yeah. Yep. Do what you want, mate. It's, you know. Yeah. Whatever you think. I'm
• 59:22
  not going to have a house. I'm not going to get too attached to uh to anything in
• 59:26
  there because it's just, you know, just for fun. Yes. And I think you got a week
• 59:32
  coming off soon. I do. And there's a lot we could do in that week. That's true.
• 59:38
  Yeah, it's got PAX is at the tail end of it, but uh that's fine. Yeah, I got uh
• 59:44
  I'm jealous you got to pack. You should be. Have you Have they been
• 59:50
  announcing what's going to be there yet or? Yeah, it does seem still smaller
• 59:54
  than uh ye oldie days, but you know, like I think like Devolver's got a booth
• 59:57
  and uh Behemoth is going to be there. I didn't see Nintendo. I looked cuz I was
• 1:00:02
  hoping Switch to, but they usually are there. So I I don't know what they
• 1:00:06
  normally do make an appearance. It's sort of Sony and Microsoft that are
• 1:00:10
  Yeah. No Sony, no Microsoft. Um yeah, but a lot of the uh Oh, what's the
• 1:00:15
  what's the Tiny Build? Tiny Build. They'll they've got stuff there. So
• 1:00:19
  yeah, it'll be it'll be good. I like a lot of I prefer it when it's sort of
• 1:00:23
  like the big three there. You see more of the I'm actually when I get a package
• 1:00:28
  of straight, it's all the indie stuff that I really love. The My absolute
• 1:00:32
  favorite was when Yes. the big names were at PAX and also Bethesda was next
• 1:00:37
  door in the comedy club and we could get invites into the Bethesda thing where
• 1:00:43
  they would have like the themed cocktails and stuff and like that was
• 1:00:47
  those are like my top tier. That would have been amazing. PAX [ __ ] memories
• 1:00:51
  was just going to get shitfaced with all the people from Bethesda and then going
• 1:00:55
  back into packs. That was Well, yeah. That's cuz I remember few years ago I
• 1:01:00
  went to one and then last year I run into a few people there and they
• 1:01:03
  remember me from the time I just stayed in the club. The comedy club. I stayed in the club
• 1:01:09
  cuz I had like more they had like sessions set up like people come in this
• 1:01:12
  time this time. I just stayed. Yeah. Right. And just started talking to them
• 1:01:16
  all while setting up for the next one and they don't remember me last year and
• 1:01:21
  hopefully I'll remember them this year and Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a shame. I don't
• 1:01:27
  think Bethesda's doing that anymore. That's That was at Laugh Boston, which
• 1:01:30
  is right next to the convention. No. Yeah, Bethesda's more got a bigger
• 1:01:34
  footprint at Pax Dolls, I think. Yeah. I
• 1:01:38
  think it's similar to Microsoft and Sony where they've realized, oh, we don't
• 1:01:43
  really need to do that. Yeah. And also, it's always what I found weird is
• 1:01:47
  because I there'll be a huge line for a game that's already out and I'm why are
• 1:01:53
  you lining up for this or Yeah. Other top tier memories of like
• 1:01:59
  when we first started going to PAX, they were good, too, cuz there was stuff like
• 1:02:02
  I remember the very first PAX I went to had Colonial Marines, which obviously
• 1:02:06
  that didn't work out, but we did go in and do the demo with Randy Pitchford
• 1:02:11
  like just in in a in a little room with him and like those were the days. And
• 1:02:14
  then also at was it Pax Oz where CD Project showed us Witcher
• 1:02:19
  3 back in the day and it was literally it was just a team from CD Project. Yes.
• 1:02:25
  Just showing you the game like it doesn't just doesn't happen like that
• 1:02:28
  now. It's too big. It's got like it's [ __ ] enormous. But yeah, just like
• 1:02:33
  Oh, and Vampire that vampire game too. again. Again, just those kind of
• 1:02:37
  sessions, those memories are like that that was that was I'm so looking forward
• 1:02:41
  to this year cuz Dan is coming for the whole thing. Yeah. Yeah. This year. So,
• 1:02:47
  cuz I think this is if you're going to PAX go and hassle him. Yeah. Go
• 1:02:51
  Pax, come hassle me. Yeah. And we'll go Pax Prime again one day.
• 1:02:58
  Yes. Yes. Yeah, we should do that. Yep. But look, if you want to come hassle us
• 1:03:01
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• 1:03:04
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• 1:03:09
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• 1:03:50
  going to talk about some more stuff. We've got some uh some some Well, we've
• 1:03:53
  got a geek of the week of the week. Everybody probably knows who that's
• 1:03:57
  going to be. This is a tough one, though. But we'll uh geek of the week is when
• 1:04:04
  somebody dies and Luke gets to decide if they're geek worthy of geek of the week.
• 1:04:10
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• 1:04:16
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• 1:04:21
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