Latest / UK Column Radio / UK Column News — 7th September 2026
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- 0:03Speaker 1: Thank you.
- 0:08Speaker 2: Good afternoon. It's Monday, 7th of September, 2026, just after
- 0:11Speaker 2: one o'clock. You're watching UK Column News. I'm your host,
- 0:14Speaker 2: Ben Rubin, and I'm delighted to be joined in the
- 0:17Speaker 2: studio by Mr. Brian Gerrish. Hi, Brian.
- 0:19Speaker 3: Pleasure to be here.
- 0:21Speaker 2: Always a pleasure to be here on a Monday. Now,
- 0:24Speaker 2: we have got a lot going on in the country
- 0:26Speaker 2: at the moment. We're going to be talking about the
- 0:28Speaker 2: rewiring of the British state, the transformation behind the scenes
- 0:32Speaker 2: of the entire system of governance in the country, including
- 0:35Speaker 2: the Looking back at some rather prescient reporting by Brian
- 0:39Speaker 2: and Mike back in 2017, including some very familiar faces,
- 0:44Speaker 2: basically the same people in the same organisations involved at
- 0:46Speaker 2: the UK column we were talking about back then. We're
- 0:49Speaker 2: going to be looking at escalating tensions around the Falkland Islands,
- 0:53Speaker 2: including one of our closest allies and best friends on
- 0:56Speaker 2: the international scene. It seems to have a keen interest there.
- 0:59Speaker 2: in one of our most strategic assets in the South Atlantic.
- 1:03Speaker 2: We'll be looking at the desecration of a temple in
- 1:07Speaker 2: the city of London. But before we get into that,
- 1:11Speaker 2: we're going to be looking at the issue of the weekend,
- 1:14Speaker 2: the protests on the south coast of England, which kicked
- 1:19Speaker 2: off on Saturday morning. in the port of Dover, where
- 1:23Speaker 2: hundreds of men dressed all in black with their faces covered,
- 1:27Speaker 2: without signs, without phones, without any kind of banners or flags,
- 1:32Speaker 2: like completely unidentifiable, descended on Dover port and blocked one
- 1:38Speaker 2: of the UK's busiest, in fact, I think it is
- 1:40Speaker 2: the UK's busiest port, causing delays to business and leisure
- 1:44Speaker 2: travellers alike. In protest against illegal immigration, and small boat crossings.
- 1:52Speaker 2: So we can see here some footage from the scene.
- 1:55Speaker 2: Got another video taken by, I believe by a bus driver.
- 2:00Speaker 2: I'm just gonna play these without any of the audio
- 2:04Speaker 2: predominantly because there's not really much being said and there's
- 2:08Speaker 2: a little bit of foul language, nothing aggressive. You can
- 2:12Speaker 2: certainly get the idea of what's happening here. You generally
- 2:15Speaker 2: seem to be a quiet, and peaceful protests. There were
- 2:19Speaker 2: no arrests made on the day, but they have predictably,
- 2:24Speaker 2: I suppose, been demonized by a lot of the political class.
- 2:28Speaker 2: So Farage condemned this, Robert Jemrick condemned this, both of
- 2:33Speaker 2: them from reform. Others in the government have described this
- 2:36Speaker 2: as thuggish behavior. Predictably, or maybe less predictably, I don't know,
- 2:42Speaker 2: even the right-wing press, so the Daily Express have come
- 2:44Speaker 2: out and described this as frightening. with terrified women trapped
- 2:48Speaker 2: in cars as masked protesters stormed over. But then actually,
- 2:54Speaker 2: when we abandoned the mainstream media and just head to
- 2:57Speaker 2: social media, people sharing stuff, we can see a rather
- 3:00Speaker 2: different story. So this photo was shared by someone in
- 3:03Speaker 2: the Southeast Patriots group on, I believe it's on Facebook.
- 3:06Speaker 2: He was saying, it's the safest train.
- 3:07Speaker 4: In the world.
- 3:08Speaker 2: They're lovely lads. They seem to be having a pretty
- 3:11Speaker 2: decent time. and actually it's just about hiding their identity.
- 3:16Speaker 2: So I'd imagine there's fewer repercussions coming their way.
- 3:19Speaker 3: Well, as the police take on more and more facial
- 3:23Speaker 3: surveillance and the CCTV cameras, that actually becomes more and
- 3:28Speaker 3: more important for people to be able to protest without
- 3:32Speaker 3: being digitised and labelled an instant terrorist. But I can
- 3:36Speaker 3: imagine that people face with a lot of, young men
- 3:40Speaker 3: totally in black could be a bit... Could be intimidating.
- 3:45Speaker 3: It certainly could be intimidating.
- 3:47Speaker 2: One thing I did wonder, though, Brian, especially just so
- 3:50Speaker 2: that we're kind of being honest with ourselves, when we
- 3:53Speaker 2: talked about Just Stop Oil, for example, in the past,
- 3:56Speaker 2: when they've gone around shutting down motorways and that kind
- 3:58Speaker 2: of thing, so my view is that essentially they probably
- 4:02Speaker 2: have valid concerns, but their energy is being directed in
- 4:05Speaker 2: the wrong way Do you think that this is probably
- 4:09Speaker 2: the same issue here, but more on the right wing
- 4:11Speaker 2: as opposed to the left wing of the political sphere?
- 4:13Speaker 3: I absolutely do think that. And I would like to
- 4:16Speaker 3: know who is actually behind the organisation and the decision
- 4:20Speaker 3: that everybody is going to turn up dressed solely in black.
- 4:24Speaker 1: Yes.
- 4:24Speaker 3: Because this is the bit that makes me think there's
- 4:27Speaker 3: more to this protest than simply a group of good
- 4:30Speaker 3: people deciding that they're going to go and make their
- 4:33Speaker 3: voices heard. There's something about this protest. Yeah, it's certainly
- 4:37Speaker 3: very well organized. And actually, it wasn't just an isolated incident.
- 4:41Speaker 3: So the Dover protest dispersed on Saturday. But then on Sunday,
- 4:46Speaker 3: the second protest, also on the south coast, but further
- 4:49Speaker 3: to the west in Hampshire, this was in Portsmouth, began
- 4:55Speaker 3: on Sunday where we had demonstrators blocking roads and essentially
- 5:00Speaker 3: trying to prevent around 140 illegal immigrants from It crossed
- 5:04Speaker 3: the English Channel in a single dinghy, so a big dinghy.
- 5:07Speaker 3: They were trying to stop them from coming ashore and
- 5:11Speaker 3: leaving the city. And the government condemned this, again, as
- 5:16Speaker 3: intimidating and thuggish. And the police were urging people to
- 5:21Speaker 3: avoid the area and had actually placed a dispersal order
- 5:25Speaker 3: as well. So that essentially means anyone failing to comply
- 5:28Speaker 3: with their direction to leave the area could potentially be arrested.
- 5:33Speaker 3: So this is also kind of fizzled out overnight. It
- 5:38Speaker 3: does seem that we're going to enter a period now
- 5:42Speaker 3: of increased direct action. Because people are genuinely getting frustrated,
- 5:49Speaker 3: particularly on the subject of immigration, which they see as
- 5:53Speaker 3: being uncontrolled. I believe it's absolutely controlled because the control
- 6:00Speaker 3: is deliberate. But people see it as out of control,
- 6:04Speaker 3: the government not doing anything, and they want something to happen.
- 6:07Speaker 3: But as many people will know, particularly people who watch
- 6:11Speaker 3: the UK column, I'm always warning that people are focused
- 6:14Speaker 3: on the boats, which is a tiny, tiny fraction of
- 6:17Speaker 3: the total number of people coming in through a government
- 6:21Speaker 3: orchestrated migration system. So I would say people have got
- 6:25Speaker 3: to look wider and they've got to dig deeper.
- 6:28Speaker 2: Yeah, I completely agree with that. Now, you asked a
- 6:31Speaker 2: very good question, Brian, which is who is behind all
- 6:34Speaker 2: of this. And certainly one of the key figures, the
- 6:37Speaker 2: key public faces of this is a fellow from Portsmouth
- 6:41Speaker 2: called Danny Tomo. Let's have a little listen to what
- 6:43Speaker 2: he had to say about his organisation, the Patriot Platform.
- 6:51Speaker 5: This is a warning to the British authorities, to those
- 6:56Speaker 5: that have pledged to protect us.
- 6:58Speaker 2: You have failed.
- 7:00Speaker 5: Our communities are changing so dramatically that we, as patriots,
- 7:08Speaker 5: feel our country is falling apart. The amount of crime
- 7:14Speaker 5: being committed by men coming into this country by small
- 7:18Speaker 5: boat is unacceptable. And we, the patriotic movement of this country,
- 7:24Speaker 5: do not believe that they are taking it seriously. We
- 7:29Speaker 5: are putting together a resistance movement for every city and
- 7:34Speaker 5: town in the United Kingdom. From the hills of Scotland,
- 7:40Speaker 5: to the fields of Wales, to the streets of Northern Ireland,
- 7:44Speaker 5: and of course, England. We have an opportunity to take
- 7:51Speaker 5: back control. And what that means is, is sending a
- 7:56Speaker 5: very clear message to those that need to hear it.
- 8:00Speaker 5: This is not a protest movement. This is not a
- 8:03Speaker 5: flag waving movement, even though they are important elements of
- 8:09Speaker 5: a resistance. But now we have to change the MO.
- 8:14Speaker 5: We are creating a resistance movement in every city and town.
- 8:20Speaker 5: You will be connected with patriots that live next door,
- 8:25Speaker 5: live up the road, live on the other side of
- 8:27Speaker 5: the city. And we will be able, away from social media,
- 8:32Speaker 5: away from all these platforms, to come together and resist
- 8:39Speaker 5: and push back on what is going on.
- 8:45Speaker 2: Sounds good, doesn't it?
- 8:46Speaker 3: It reminds me of somebody.
- 8:48Speaker 2: Oh, really? Also called Tommy.
- 8:51Speaker 3: Also called Tommy.
- 8:52Speaker 2: Or Tomo, perhaps. Yeah, so that was just a clip
- 8:55Speaker 2: from a video that we shared on Thursday last week.
- 8:58Speaker 2: So that went kind of viral on YouTube. It's got 295,000
- 9:02Speaker 2: views and counting, still going up as we speak. from
- 9:06Speaker 2: an account with just under 5,000 subscribers. And a number
- 9:10Speaker 2: of people, in particular, Mark Collett, former youth leader of
- 9:14Speaker 2: the BNP, was slightly skeptical of this. Obviously, he's aware
- 9:17Speaker 2: of Danny Tomo. He's been on the scene for a
- 9:19Speaker 2: little while now, building this network around the country, very
- 9:23Speaker 2: publicly going around and establishing groups in towns and cities
- 9:26Speaker 2: around the UK, pushing out on social media. But so
- 9:29Speaker 2: many people have been removed from YouTube and removed from
- 9:32Speaker 2: other platforms over the past 10, 15, 20 years. To
- 9:35Speaker 2: see this kind of pop up and look like it's
- 9:38Speaker 2: being pushed and promoted by the algorithm is a little
- 9:40Speaker 2: bit suspicious. It is surprising, yes. Now, I should point
- 9:44Speaker 2: out that he goes on in that video to say
- 9:47Speaker 2: that they're not asking people to commit crimes. It's just
- 9:50Speaker 2: about meeting and connecting with fellow patriots. He describes it
- 9:56Speaker 2: as our last opportunity to do something about what's going
- 10:00Speaker 2: on in the country um but then he does ask
- 10:02Speaker 2: you to pledge allegiance to something called the patriot platform
- 10:08Speaker 2: which he did mention in that clip that we just
- 10:09Speaker 2: showed um and here's their website so this is real
- 10:13Speaker 2: people real britain real talk um Britain doesn't need more commentators.
- 10:17Speaker 2: It needs people prepared to act. Yeah, completely agree with that.
- 10:20Speaker 2: We still believe in what made Britain great. We've had enough.
- 10:25Speaker 2: Conviction must become action. Again, I agree with all of this.
- 10:28Speaker 2: If you refuse to look away, you belong here. Fantastic.
- 10:32Speaker 2: Really well presented and well put together. But then the
- 10:35Speaker 2: kicker comes here where they actually ask you for an
- 10:37Speaker 2: extraordinary amount of information. to sign up to this thing, right?
- 10:42Speaker 2: So in order to join the Patriot platform and subsequently
- 10:45Speaker 2: to pledge allegiance to this platform, you have to give
- 10:49Speaker 2: them your name, date of birth, phone number, email address,
- 10:52Speaker 2: where you live, your town, county, and your postcode. And
- 10:56Speaker 2: for me, this just looks a bit like a data
- 10:58Speaker 2: harvesting operation.
- 11:00Speaker 3: So you wear balaclavas and you hide your face when
- 11:03Speaker 3: you do the protest, but you're actually working with an
- 11:06Speaker 3: organisation that which is sucking in all the information the
- 11:10Speaker 3: state would need to label your right-wing extremists. And that
- 11:14Speaker 3: data is just being collected in one database and shared
- 11:18Speaker 3: with whom? We've no idea.
- 11:20Speaker 2: Well, exactly. Shared with whom? And this is the entire country.
- 11:24Speaker 2: So this is not just a local protest. This is,
- 11:26Speaker 2: as he said in that clip, every city, every town
- 11:29Speaker 2: around the UK. So the potential for subverting a genuine
- 11:34Speaker 2: nationalist movement here I think would be quite significant and
- 11:37Speaker 2: actually something very similar happened with the EDL in the
- 11:40Speaker 2: early days which ended up with hundreds of people being
- 11:43Speaker 2: arrested many of them going to prison and funnily enough
- 11:48Speaker 2: Danny Tomo was actually really good pals with Tommy Robinson a.k.a.
- 11:52Speaker 2: Tel Aviv Steve. And they've known each other for some time.
- 11:56Speaker 2: You can see here on X over the weekend, Tommy
- 11:59Speaker 2: Robinson saying that he's always been a friend of Danny Tomo,
- 12:02Speaker 2: but I'm now a fan. So he's really backing this
- 12:05Speaker 2: direct action. They go way back, apparently. So here's him saying,
- 12:10Speaker 2: you'd be proud of our boy this week, Bomber. Miss you, lad.
- 12:12Speaker 2: So I guess that's Bomber in the bottom right-hand side
- 12:15Speaker 2: of this image that Tommy appears to have in his house.
- 12:17Speaker 2: So he's got a little portrait of himself with Danny
- 12:21Speaker 2: Tomo and Bomber in the house. So it's the same networks.
- 12:28Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 12:29Speaker 2: The same networks and potentially some of the same kinds
- 12:32Speaker 2: of funding patterns as well. Because actually, let's have a
- 12:35Speaker 2: little listen to this clip of Danny Tomo talking about
- 12:38Speaker 2: the possibility of getting some money coming into his organization
- 12:42Speaker 2: to support his activities from overseas.
- 12:46Speaker 6: Next thing is I get an American think tank contact
- 12:49Speaker 6: me and they say, we understand that you haven't, you
- 12:54Speaker 6: haven't really got any funds for this.
- 12:55Speaker 3: What's your plan?
- 12:56Speaker 6: And I said, well, I've got some scaffolding, a couple
- 12:58Speaker 6: of guys coming up with some scaffolding. They said, what
- 13:00Speaker 6: if we can give you some money to make it
- 13:01Speaker 6: what it needs to be?
- 13:03Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 13:03Speaker 2: Okay.
- 13:05Speaker 6: What are you talking? Five, 10?
- 13:07Speaker 3: We can, 30,000 can be on the table. So who
- 13:12Speaker 3: was that organization?
- 13:14Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. But 30,000 from an American think
- 13:18Speaker 2: tank in order to support ground operations in a UK
- 13:23Speaker 2: patriot movement. What do you think that they want for
- 13:25Speaker 2: that money in return?
- 13:26Speaker 3: Control.
- 13:27Speaker 2: Control.
- 13:28Speaker 3: If they haven't got it already. Yes.
- 13:30Speaker 2: And importantly, what is all of this distracting everybody from?
- 13:35Speaker 2: Because for me, the small boat stuff, although it is
- 13:38Speaker 2: important and needs to be addressed... is a bit of
- 13:41Speaker 2: a distraction from the total gutting and looting of the
- 13:50Speaker 2: country that's going on right now, including a lot of
- 13:55Speaker 2: the devolution program that we've been talking about over the
- 13:58Speaker 2: past several months. And the UK column has been warning
- 14:03Speaker 2: about for over a decade.
- 14:06Speaker 3: And we're going to continue to warn people because this
- 14:09Speaker 3: is where the real seat of the destruction is. The
- 14:12Speaker 3: boats are a distraction. They're a tiny proportion of the immigration.
- 14:17Speaker 3: We need to look in another place to see who's
- 14:21Speaker 3: destroying the country and how it's being done. Now, a
- 14:25Speaker 3: little bit of black humor. I'm going to thank the
- 14:27Speaker 3: Institute of Government that was busy flagging up. They've been
- 14:31Speaker 3: to the Reform Party conference and they've been talking to
- 14:34Speaker 3: people there. And I got this email alert. There was
- 14:39Speaker 3: some information on it. What is Reform UK's vision for
- 14:43Speaker 3: devolution and local government in England? Now, this is an
- 14:46Speaker 3: interesting question, because if we, the UK column, say the
- 14:50Speaker 3: problem is the devolution agenda, it now appears that reform
- 14:55Speaker 3: has stepped into the middle of that agenda. So are
- 14:58Speaker 3: they friend or foe? That question might upset a lot
- 15:01Speaker 3: of people, but we've really got to look at what's
- 15:03Speaker 3: going on here. Now, the little report here talks about speakers.
- 15:09Speaker 3: We've got Councillor Stephen Atkinson, leader of Lancashire Council, but
- 15:15Speaker 3: also leader of the Local Government Association Reform UK group.
- 15:20Speaker 3: Local Government Association, very powerful in injecting politics into local councils.
- 15:26Speaker 3: We've got Justin Galliford, Chief Executive at the Norse Group.
- 15:30Speaker 3: I'll come on to that a bit more in a minute.
- 15:33Speaker 3: We've got Lyndon Kemp-Carran, the Leader of Kent County Council.
- 15:37Speaker 3: We've got a Cash Bourne Programme Director, Devolution at the
- 15:41Speaker 3: Institute of Government, because let's remember the Institute of Government
- 15:45Speaker 3: is absolutely pushing this agenda as hard as it can.
- 15:49Speaker 3: We've got a Councillor, Daniel Sutherland, Leader of Calderdale Council.
- 15:54Speaker 3: And in case you haven't seen it, here's the Norse
- 15:56Speaker 3: Group logo at the bottom. And they've effectively helped make
- 16:02Speaker 3: this event with the Institute of Government happen. Now, if
- 16:05Speaker 3: you've never heard of the Norse Group, don't be surprised.
- 16:09Speaker 3: I hadn't until fairly recently, but they were created back
- 16:13Speaker 3: in 1988 by Norfolk Council. So this is a corporate
- 16:18Speaker 3: business interest created by a council created And if you
- 16:23Speaker 3: want some more details, obviously go to the North website,
- 16:26Speaker 3: have a look at some of the key people, Andy Wood,
- 16:29Speaker 3: the chairman, Lord Gary Porter, CB, independent non-executive director, and
- 16:36Speaker 3: Craig Phillips, independent non-executive director, which you can see more.
- 16:41Speaker 3: And let's just have a little look at this video
- 16:44Speaker 3: clip where the North Group chief executive is telling us
- 16:49Speaker 3: a bit about Norse Group itself. Now, let's have a
- 16:54Speaker 3: listen to what he says.
- 16:57Speaker 7: At Norse Group, as a business, we're really focused on people.
- 17:01Speaker 7: Of course, our staff, many of you, how we can
- 17:04Speaker 7: develop and make sure that you get the very best
- 17:06Speaker 7: out of working for us and with us. And of course,
- 17:10Speaker 7: also those people in our communities, the communities that we serve.
- 17:14Speaker 7: And to do that, we always keep our values at heart.
- 17:17Speaker 7: An important part of our values is working in true
- 17:20Speaker 7: partnership with customers around the country to make sure that
- 17:24Speaker 7: the things we do add value, not just financial value,
- 17:27Speaker 7: but also social value, doing the very best in those
- 17:31Speaker 7: communities that we work in and that we serve. And
- 17:35Speaker 7: even through current times of uncertainty with LGR and the
- 17:39Speaker 7: change that may herald for local authorities, our priority is
- 17:43Speaker 7: focusing on our people and the communities that we're proud
- 17:46Speaker 7: to work in to make sure that where we can,
- 17:49Speaker 7: we do our part in contributing to improving people's lives
- 17:52Speaker 7: around the country.
- 17:55Speaker 3: So it all sounds good. 320 odd million of companies
- 17:59Speaker 3: started by a local authority, but it's all for our benefit. Now,
- 18:04Speaker 3: I've got another video here, which is them talking about
- 18:07Speaker 3: local government reorganisation. They're absolutely in the mix. But this
- 18:11Speaker 3: comes up as text on screen. We need to play it.
- 18:16Speaker 3: I'll try and do a little bit of a description
- 18:20Speaker 3: as this plays through. But let's have a look at
- 18:22Speaker 3: this clip. Now, apologies for that if you couldn't actually
- 19:32Speaker 3: see the screen, but they're very big on the whole
- 19:36Speaker 3: question of English devolution. They say that this is going
- 19:39Speaker 3: to cause complexity and pressure in local authorities. But this
- 19:44Speaker 3: actually gives huge opportunities. So challenge is good because we
- 19:48Speaker 3: can make great steps forward and it's all for your benefit,
- 19:52Speaker 3: of course. But towards the end, they're getting into the
- 19:55Speaker 3: real meat of it because what are they talking about?
- 19:58Speaker 3: They're talking about local trading companies, even more companies being
- 20:04Speaker 3: set up by the local authority itself. So are you
- 20:08Speaker 3: dealing with a local authority working in the best interests
- 20:11Speaker 3: of the, um, of the constituents, or are you dealing
- 20:15Speaker 3: in a local authority, which is really, um, part of
- 20:19Speaker 3: the private sector?
- 20:21Speaker 2: Well, it's the public private partnership.
- 20:23Speaker 3: Thank you.
- 20:24Speaker 2: It's that it's, it's the merger is we, we make
- 20:26Speaker 2: the laws and we profit from them at the same time.
- 20:29Speaker 2: And the North's group have been the pioneers of this. And, um, it's, it's, uh,
- 20:34Speaker 2: Fascinating to see them in the mix with reform, actually. Yes.
- 20:39Speaker 2: I think the two things that jump out of this
- 20:41Speaker 2: for me is that Common Purpose was very heavily involved
- 20:45Speaker 2: with the Norfolk Community Foundation. And that's one of the
- 20:49Speaker 2: things Martin Edwards was talking about a good few years
- 20:52Speaker 2: ago now, early UK column work. And Norfolk Group is
- 20:56Speaker 2: absolutely in that kind of network. This is all very
- 20:58Speaker 2: closely linked. I'm not saying that they directly work with
- 21:01Speaker 2: common purpose to my knowledge, but they're certainly in that
- 21:04Speaker 2: same kind of area. And also, I think something that's
- 21:06Speaker 2: really crucial to point out is that Sandringham is in Norfolk.
- 21:10Speaker 2: So one of the key royal palaces, one of the
- 21:13Speaker 2: seats of power outside of the capital is in Norfolk.
- 21:17Speaker 2: So this is all happening in their backyard. And one
- 21:20Speaker 2: would have to wonder whether they know about it.
- 21:23Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 21:23Speaker 3: So I'm going to emphasise around audience, the royal people,
- 21:28Speaker 3: getting very emotionally involved in those protests against the rubber boats.
- 21:32Speaker 3: The real destruction of the country is happening within the
- 21:36Speaker 3: public sector and the political sector, and we can see
- 21:40Speaker 3: what is going on if we look in the right places.
- 21:44Speaker 3: So the Institute of Government Report got more interesting because
- 21:50Speaker 3: one of the people they spoke to was Danny Kruger,
- 21:55Speaker 3: who's head of Reform UK's unit for preparing the party
- 21:59Speaker 3: for government. Now, I have known of Danny Kruger for
- 22:03Speaker 3: quite some time and will share with the audience why
- 22:06Speaker 3: that is. But first of all, let's have a listen
- 22:08Speaker 3: to a little bit of audio where he's responding, where
- 22:13Speaker 3: Danny Kruger is responding to the Institute of Government.
- 22:18Speaker 1: So.
- 22:19Speaker 8: My job, and Leo's, is to think about preparing for government.
- 22:22Speaker 8: So that means the machinery of government, ensuring the state
- 22:26Speaker 8: functions well. And so the answer to your question is,
- 22:30Speaker 8: you know, we're actually policy blind. We're trying to make
- 22:32Speaker 8: government work well for any future administration. Obviously, there is,
- 22:37Speaker 8: you know, this conference is all about setting out some
- 22:41Speaker 8: specific plans about energy security, about immigration, about law and order,
- 22:47Speaker 8: about tax. But there's also, you know, we're here talking
- 22:50Speaker 8: about our plans for the civil service. There's reforms needed
- 22:53Speaker 8: to the judiciary as well and to parliament. So, you know,
- 22:57Speaker 8: there's a set of policies that are being announced. But
- 23:01Speaker 8: let me just try and answer the question a little
- 23:04Speaker 8: more broadly. You know, what's interesting? And your interest, Alex,
- 23:07Speaker 8: is the Institute for Government, impartial and non-partisan, is that
- 23:15Speaker 8: it reflects the fact that there is an increasing consensus
- 23:18Speaker 8: And the irony is, here we are, we are a
- 23:20Speaker 8: very anti-establishment party. We think there is a profound problem
- 23:22Speaker 8: with what we call the blob, an institutional bias in
- 23:26Speaker 8: the center of government and in the institutions that run
- 23:30Speaker 8: our country, hostile to the national interest, antipathetic to the
- 23:36Speaker 8: instincts and the values of the British people. We are
- 23:39Speaker 8: resolutely determined to challenge and disrupt the elite system of
- 23:44Speaker 8: power in our country.
- 23:49Speaker 3: So the sting in the tail, because this is Danny
- 23:51Speaker 3: Kruger talking about disrupting, but disrupting is the technique by
- 23:56Speaker 3: which the other side has got into the public and
- 23:59Speaker 3: political sector in the UK and destroyed it from the
- 24:04Speaker 3: inside out. I was very interested to hear him say that.
- 24:06Speaker 3: But apparently the problem isn't that the country is being
- 24:10Speaker 3: destroyed in a calculated manner. It's we've got a bit
- 24:14Speaker 3: of a problem with institutional bias. And we've got a
- 24:17Speaker 3: little bit of a problem with a blob of people
- 24:20Speaker 3: who aren't doing the right thing. This is absolutely ridiculous
- 24:24Speaker 3: because reform knows that the country is now under a
- 24:27Speaker 3: massive political attack from the inside. There's no substance. This
- 24:32Speaker 3: is like hearing one of the other parties talk. Now,
- 24:35Speaker 3: if we go back in time, the UK column in
- 24:38Speaker 3: 2017 was absolutely on the case of of what was
- 24:43Speaker 3: going on and really we were predicting what was to come.
- 24:47Speaker 3: And we were talking about Danny Kruger himself. So this
- 24:52Speaker 3: is the UK column report going back in time to
- 24:56Speaker 3: the 8th of November, 2017. I've got quite a long
- 24:59Speaker 3: clip here of that news report. We need to watch
- 25:03Speaker 3: it and listen to it because UK column team, Mike
- 25:07Speaker 3: Robinson and myself couldn't really have done better to warn
- 25:11Speaker 3: people what was coming, whatever it is, some nine years,
- 25:16Speaker 3: 10 years later. Let's have a listen to this UK
- 25:20Speaker 3: column news clip. Okay, well, we've got the blockage on
- 25:26Speaker 3: child abuse investigations in UK. We've got the rise of
- 25:30Speaker 3: EU military unification, which of course sucks in British troops,
- 25:34Speaker 3: although we supposedly got Brexit. We've got the UK threatening
- 25:39Speaker 3: nation states. to behave themselves or else. What's really going
- 25:44Speaker 3: on in UK itself? Well, we're going to come back
- 25:47Speaker 3: to big society. And we'd like to thank a lady
- 25:50Speaker 3: called Kate who sent in an email containing this. I'll
- 25:54Speaker 3: just read a little.
- 25:54Speaker 2: Bit of it.
- 25:55Speaker 3: But she starts off by talking about common purpose being
- 25:59Speaker 3: a legal doctrine that imputes criminal liability on the participants
- 26:04Speaker 3: involved in criminal activity for all that results from such activity.
- 26:09Speaker 3: And the point she's making is that the phrase common
- 26:11Speaker 3: purpose has a position at law in that you can
- 26:16Speaker 3: be convicted of common purpose, which results in a criminal activity.
- 26:21Speaker 3: But the reason she's put that in, presumably, is because
- 26:24Speaker 3: she's seeing the charity Common Purpose, something completely different, but
- 26:28Speaker 3: it has the same name, coming up in relation to Uprising,
- 26:33Speaker 3: which apparently is a national youth leadership development organisation And
- 26:38Speaker 3: it says we're recognised at government level as a pioneering
- 26:41Speaker 3: charity championing the critical issues surrounding diversity, social mobility and equality.
- 26:49Speaker 3: The mission is to break the cycle of unrepresentative power
- 26:54Speaker 3: in the UK by developing new community minded and socially
- 26:58Speaker 3: conscious leaders so that our future decision makers truly represent
- 27:03Speaker 3: our diverse communities. We want to change the face of
- 27:07Speaker 3: power in this country, quite literally. And they call themselves Uprising, Mike.
- 27:13Speaker 3: With a name like that and an agenda as blunt
- 27:16Speaker 3: as that, shouldn't they be on one of the lists
- 27:18Speaker 3: for potential domestic extremists?
- 27:21Speaker 4: I would have thought Prevent might have been interested.
- 27:23Speaker 3: One would have thought that. So we're going to thank
- 27:25Speaker 3: the lady very much for sending that in to us.
- 27:28Speaker 3: What did we do? Well, of course, we went to
- 27:30Speaker 3: the website to see for ourselves what sort of things
- 27:33Speaker 3: were being talked about. And my goodness, it was a
- 27:36Speaker 3: fascinating trail. So lots of very, very glossy images. Here's Uprising.
- 27:43Speaker 3: You can see the logo top left, developing the leaders
- 27:46Speaker 3: of tomorrow. The first thing that came into my mind
- 27:49Speaker 3: is that the young lady there has got a headscarf on, Mike.
- 27:53Speaker 3: We're not seeing the BBC climb all over this organisation
- 27:56Speaker 3: because they're demeaning ladies who want to wear the hijab.
- 28:01Speaker 3: in this photograph. So clearly this organisation must be approved
- 28:05Speaker 3: by the BBC. Well, we can bring up a little
- 28:08Speaker 3: bit of about us because that's always good. We've heard
- 28:12Speaker 3: about the National Youth Leadership Organisation and it says our
- 28:18Speaker 3: programmes run in London, Luton, West Midlands, Cardiff City region,
- 28:23Speaker 3: that's an interesting expression, Greater Manchester. We've also worked in Merseyside, Bedford, Tamworth, Litchfield, Stoke-on-Trent, Blackburn,
- 28:32Speaker 3: and we've a growing movement of 3,300 uprising alumni who
- 28:39Speaker 3: importantly remain involved in their community and with our work.
- 28:45Speaker 3: That's fascinating, isn't it? So they've admitted that they want
- 28:48Speaker 3: to change the face of power in this country. There's
- 28:52Speaker 3: nothing mentioned here about democracy, but you're putting 3,300 activists
- 28:56Speaker 3: in amongst communities to do our work. Fascinating stuff. Let's
- 29:04Speaker 3: have a look at this bit here. We go on
- 29:07Speaker 3: to history and purpose. It was born in East London
- 29:11Speaker 3: in 2008, and we started life as a small pilot
- 29:15Speaker 3: project under the wing of the Young Foundation.
- 29:17Speaker 4: Of course.
- 29:18Speaker 3: And it was started to help identify and support a
- 29:22Speaker 3: new generation of talented adults from diverse backgrounds. Now you
- 29:26Speaker 3: picked up on the Young Foundation there, Mike, because of
- 29:29Speaker 3: course we've seen the Young Foundation at the back of
- 29:34Speaker 3: common purpose activity and also at the back of big society.
- 29:38Speaker 4: Just about every change agent organisation seems to have funding from.
- 29:43Speaker 3: The Young Foundation. From the Young Foundation and a gentleman
- 29:45Speaker 3: called Geoff Mulgan was one of the key players in
- 29:48Speaker 3: very close to the Cabinet Office. Well, they want to
- 29:52Speaker 3: change government. Who wants to change government? Well, none other
- 29:58Speaker 3: than David Cameron, which is quite extraordinary. Here he is.
- 30:02Speaker 3: And there's a series of videos. Nick Clegg is another
- 30:05Speaker 3: one of the supporters of this organisation and Miliband as well,
- 30:11Speaker 3: but decided to have a look at David Cameron. We
- 30:14Speaker 3: haven't got sound on this, but you don't really need it.
- 30:17Speaker 3: What was he having to say? Well, towards the end
- 30:20Speaker 3: of this, He says that basically, I promise you that
- 30:24Speaker 3: I will do everything I can to support you in
- 30:27Speaker 3: the months and years ahead. He's talking about this particular
- 30:31Speaker 3: charity because the principles that have guided this organisation have
- 30:36Speaker 3: never been more important in Britain. The idea that it's
- 30:39Speaker 3: not where you were born or who your parents are
- 30:42Speaker 3: that matters. It is who you are and what you
- 30:45Speaker 3: can do for our country.
- 30:48Speaker 2: Yes.
- 30:49Speaker 4: Whose country?
- 30:50Speaker 3: Well, this is the key thing, their country. It doesn't
- 30:54Speaker 3: matter whether you were born here, and that doesn't impinge
- 30:57Speaker 3: on what colour you are or what religion you are.
- 31:00Speaker 3: But according to these people, it doesn't matter whether you
- 31:03Speaker 3: were born in UK. It doesn't matter whether your parents
- 31:05Speaker 3: were born in UK. It doesn't matter whether your parents
- 31:09Speaker 3: or grandparents might have died fighting for this country. That
- 31:13Speaker 3: doesn't matter. You've just got to be acceptable material for
- 31:18Speaker 3: this new organisation supported by David Cameron in the background?
- 31:22Speaker 4: I mean, it was David Cameron that started using the phrase,
- 31:26Speaker 4: our United Kingdom. And I always wondered what was in
- 31:29Speaker 4: his mind when he said that.
- 31:31Speaker 3: I mean, I have suspicions, but.
- 31:33Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 31:33Speaker 3: Well, this is what most people have forgotten about, is
- 31:36Speaker 3: that the Conservatives unleashed the big society programme. And that
- 31:42Speaker 3: big society programme has never gone away. In fact, it
- 31:46Speaker 3: is expanding under the surface. And of course, Uprising is
- 31:51Speaker 3: one of the organisations creating the so-called social change agents
- 31:57Speaker 3: who are driving change, which has never been discussed in Westminster,
- 32:01Speaker 3: has never been put to the British public and has
- 32:05Speaker 3: never had a democratic vote on it. So if you
- 32:08Speaker 3: don't know what Big Society is about, you can go
- 32:10Speaker 3: on the UK column website, just Google Big Society and
- 32:14Speaker 3: and you will come up with some of the articles
- 32:16Speaker 3: that have been written. But we had a little look
- 32:19Speaker 3: at the people involved with this organisation. MPs, some of them,
- 32:25Speaker 3: so-called business leaders, people with very high-level financial influence, local
- 32:32Speaker 3: authority leaders, the great and the good. Don't know how
- 32:36Speaker 3: these people got there, but these people have put themselves
- 32:40Speaker 3: forward to say they're going to change our society as
- 32:44Speaker 3: they require. There's not going to be any vote on it.
- 32:48Speaker 3: So no democratic mandate for changing the face of power
- 32:51Speaker 3: in this country. Many would call this sedition, but it's
- 32:56Speaker 3: a charity and David Cameron backs it, so apparently it's okay.
- 33:00Speaker 3: We were fascinated to find this lady embedded in it.
- 33:05Speaker 3: If I get her name right, it's Roshanara Ali, MP.
- 33:09Speaker 3: She's the co-founder of Uprising, apparently, and she's also founding
- 33:13Speaker 3: chair of One Million Mentors. And that brought into my
- 33:17Speaker 3: mind a million change agents, Mike, which, of course, we
- 33:21Speaker 3: know is being used to pull the NHS apart. So
- 33:26Speaker 3: the Young Foundation backs this organisation. If you're not familiar
- 33:31Speaker 3: with the Young Foundation, I would encourage you to go
- 33:34Speaker 3: and have a look at them because this is another
- 33:37Speaker 3: quango foundation organisation. heavily politically involved to change society as
- 33:42Speaker 3: they require, not the way that a democratic vote would
- 33:46Speaker 3: change it. But one of the names that immediately came
- 33:50Speaker 3: back up in looking at the Young Foundation was this gentleman,
- 33:54Speaker 3: Danny Kruger. And for those of you not familiar with
- 33:58Speaker 3: this man, he's been involved with a lot of these organisations.
- 34:04Speaker 3: But of course, he was one of the big advisers
- 34:06Speaker 3: to the Conservative Party. And he came out with some
- 34:10Speaker 3: statements fairly recently, which we'll bring up on screen. But
- 34:14Speaker 3: here it says he's the founder and former chief executive
- 34:17Speaker 3: of two charities, Only Connect, a criminal justice project. Pity
- 34:23Speaker 3: that can't get involved in child abuse. And the West
- 34:26Speaker 3: London Zone for Children and Young People, a place-based early
- 34:31Speaker 3: intervention project. But of course, his power base comes from
- 34:34Speaker 3: the fact that he was special advisor to to David
- 34:37Speaker 3: Cameron as leader of the opposition. So it's all getting
- 34:40Speaker 3: a bit incestuous now. And if I can bring him
- 34:45Speaker 3: in on screen, this is the bit we need to remember,
- 34:50Speaker 3: that he was the man who said that the Conservatives
- 34:53Speaker 3: planned to introduce a period of creative destruction in public services.
- 34:58Speaker 3: I think we're seeing that, aren't we? We are seeing it.
- 35:01Speaker 3: And of course, he wasn't the only person to know
- 35:04Speaker 3: what was really going on. Because Nicholas Bowles MP said this,
- 35:08Speaker 3: the Prime Minister and his deputy Nick Clegg want their
- 35:12Speaker 3: people power revolution to unleash chaotic effects across local communities. Chaotic, therefore,
- 35:19Speaker 3: in our vocabulary is a good thing. And of course,
- 35:22Speaker 3: Nick Clegg is also involved with uprising. So this is
- 35:27Speaker 3: the destruction of democracy in UK being carried out by
- 35:31Speaker 3: charities like and foundations and ultimately big banking money with
- 35:36Speaker 3: the full support of former politicians. I'll just bring this
- 35:41Speaker 3: headline in to say, well, it's not just us seeing
- 35:44Speaker 3: what's going on. Britain has voted for chaos. And we've
- 35:48Speaker 3: also got mention of chaos here with these key articles.
- 35:52Speaker 3: So what's the ultimate plan? Chaos and breakdown in order
- 35:57Speaker 3: to bring in a new society.
- 35:59Speaker 4: What you're saying is, what you're talking about is big
- 36:01Speaker 4: society and a parallel policy agenda with big society is
- 36:06Speaker 4: the city's agenda, the breakup of national governance, national government
- 36:11Speaker 4: in this country and devolved administrations, not only in Scotland,
- 36:16Speaker 4: Wales and Northern Ireland, but also in the so-called city regions.
- 36:20Speaker 4: And this is an interesting little article from the Centre
- 36:22Speaker 4: for Cities. The UK's Metro mayors have changed British politics
- 36:27Speaker 4: in just six months. So this is apparently a kickoff
- 36:32Speaker 4: of their new Metro Mayor blog series, so that's very good.
- 36:35Speaker 4: They say that since the election of the Metro Mayors,
- 36:39Speaker 4: they have changed the landscape of British politics, offering a
- 36:41Speaker 4: voice for urban Britain, which had previously been missing, and
- 36:45Speaker 4: taking tangible steps to improve the lives of the people
- 36:48Speaker 4: living and working in their city regions.
- 36:52Speaker 2: And who was the Metro Mayor that they were talking about?
- 36:57Speaker 2: Danny Burnham.
- 36:59Speaker 3: Of course. So 2017, the UK column, absolutely on the
- 37:04Speaker 3: money with what was going on in the country. And
- 37:07Speaker 3: we're looking back now, what a prediction. The boat people
- 37:11Speaker 3: are symptomatic of the chaos. They are not the causes
- 37:15Speaker 3: of the chaos. They are not the people orchestrating the
- 37:18Speaker 3: destruction of the United Kingdom. So every time we get
- 37:24Speaker 3: the public attention focused on a few rubber boats, these
- 37:28Speaker 3: people destroying the country and now in clear view of
- 37:35Speaker 3: the wider public in UK, simply carry on with what
- 37:38Speaker 3: they're doing. And the idea in my mind that Danny
- 37:41Speaker 3: Kruger has changed his spots when he uses the term disruption,
- 37:46Speaker 3: which is one of the key terms used Before you
- 37:50Speaker 3: can make the major change, you have to destroy, you
- 37:52Speaker 3: have to disrupt the existing system of government. It's obvious,
- 37:58Speaker 3: and we warned you back in 2017. We'll talk about
- 38:01Speaker 3: this more in the UK.
- 38:03Speaker 2: We certainly will, Brian, yes. And you warned us back
- 38:06Speaker 2: in 2017, and all of the same people and organisations
- 38:09Speaker 2: are still in the game today.
- 38:11Speaker 3: With more, because that system has expanded.
- 38:13Speaker 2: Plus, plus, plus, yeah, exactly. loads to talk about an
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- 40:47Speaker 3: troubled times.
- 40:48Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to be fantastic. Now, coming up later
- 40:52Speaker 2: on today, this evening, 7pm, we have the weekly banter
- 40:57Speaker 2: session where they'll be talking about the need to return
- 41:00Speaker 2: to analogue in beauty. Doesn't that sound fantastic? After that,
- 41:04Speaker 2: at nine o'clock, we'll have Carl Czar talking about 30,000
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- 41:17Speaker 2: tomorrow at one o'clock military matters episode 10 brian and
- 41:20Speaker 2: charles will be talking about um all the goings on
- 41:22Speaker 2: in the uk military anything to comment on that.
- 41:25Speaker 3: Well there's people need to tune in because there's been
- 41:29Speaker 3: so much happening um we could be having a military
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- 41:35Speaker 3: to leave that as a teaser. Tune in and hear
- 41:37Speaker 3: what we're talking about.
- 41:39Speaker 2: Okay, and then finally, you just wanted to mention this
- 41:41Speaker 2: interview you went at last week.
- 41:44Speaker 3: This interview is up on the UK column website. It's
- 41:47Speaker 3: about a lady who's unable to see her daughter, a
- 41:51Speaker 3: little baby that social services stopped her contact with at
- 41:55Speaker 3: 11 weeks old. But as this lady has been fighting
- 41:59Speaker 3: for contact, She's now ended up in the position where
- 42:02Speaker 3: the local authority is putting costs on her. And she's
- 42:07Speaker 3: essentially been deemed, I'll call it vexatious. So she has
- 42:11Speaker 3: to ask permission to go through the court to fight
- 42:15Speaker 3: for contact with her children. And this is happening to
- 42:19Speaker 3: thousands of parents, thousands of mothers across the country. So
- 42:23Speaker 3: whilst we're looking in various directions, I'm going to say
- 42:27Speaker 3: people need to understand that the state can take our children,
- 42:32Speaker 3: and there is nothing at the moment we can do
- 42:34Speaker 3: about it until sufficient people stand up to be counted.
- 42:39Speaker 3: But a truly incredible interview by this young mum, Caris,
- 42:44Speaker 3: and I recommend it to everybody, particularly those who are
- 42:49Speaker 3: mums and dads or grandparents themselves.
- 42:51Speaker 2: Yeah, fantastic. Fantastic. Okay, so back to the rewiring of
- 42:57Speaker 2: the British state. Last week, I talked you through this diagram,
- 43:00Speaker 2: which essentially describes 30 years of Manchesterism. So this is
- 43:05Speaker 2: Andy Burnham, our new Prime Minister's governing philosophy, which actually,
- 43:09Speaker 2: as we revealed, was developed largely by Jim O'Neill from
- 43:13Speaker 2: Goldman Sachs and Baron Jonathan Kestenbaum. who is now, amongst
- 43:18Speaker 2: other things, one of the trustees at the Rothschild Foundation
- 43:21Speaker 2: and also Lord Sainsbury and his Centre for Cities, which
- 43:24Speaker 2: came up in that report that you just saw from 2017. So, again,
- 43:27Speaker 2: just the parallels between what was happening then and what
- 43:29Speaker 2: we're seeing today are absolutely extraordinary. Now, in the wake
- 43:33Speaker 2: of that report that we delivered last Monday, on the Tuesday,
- 43:37Speaker 2: Andy Burnham stepped up in the House of Commons to
- 43:40Speaker 2: deliver his report. First speech as UK Prime Minister. Mike
- 43:44Speaker 2: did talk about this on Wednesday, but I wanted to
- 43:45Speaker 2: just focus in on a few clips that were particularly pertinent,
- 43:49Speaker 2: given what we've been talking about in terms of devolution.
- 43:52Speaker 2: Let's have a little listen, first of all, to his
- 43:53Speaker 2: diagnosis of the problem in the country.
- 43:57Speaker 1: What I bring back to the House after 10 years
- 44:00Speaker 1: away is a clear diagnosis of what has gone wrong.
- 44:05Speaker 1: Let me lay it out clearly, particularly for the right
- 44:07Speaker 1: honourable gentleman, since he asked. From the 1980s, this country
- 44:13Speaker 1: took a series of wrong turns. Political power was centralised,
- 44:20Speaker 1: economic power privatised, the country de-industrialised. Austerity followed, hollowing out
- 44:28Speaker 1: councils and depriving them of the agency to act to
- 44:33Speaker 1: reverse any of this. And then Brexit compounded the damage,
- 44:38Speaker 1: ushering in a decade of low growth and stalled regeneration.
- 44:43Speaker 1: Change begins with honesty, Mr Speaker. I'm not hearing much
- 44:46Speaker 1: of it this afternoon.
- 44:51Speaker 3: Well, Ben, I've just got to say, utterly disgusting to
- 44:54Speaker 3: watch that man and hear what he has to say,
- 44:56Speaker 3: because he knows what the problem is, because the problem
- 45:00Speaker 3: was the orchestrated destruction of this country from the inside.
- 45:05Speaker 3: This was the attack on cities, the corruption that came
- 45:09Speaker 3: in with the European Union regeneration money, the centralisation of power,
- 45:14Speaker 3: common purpose in the office of the Deputy Prime Minister.
- 45:19Speaker 3: This man knows what was destroying the country because he
- 45:22Speaker 3: was part of the regime that was creating that destruction.
- 45:26Speaker 3: Now the chaos is there for everybody to be seen.
- 45:29Speaker 3: He's got the audacity to stand up and say that
- 45:32Speaker 3: he is going to fix it. No, he's not. What
- 45:35Speaker 3: he's going to do is create the state that was
- 45:38Speaker 3: wanted in the first place. So If you're upset about
- 45:41Speaker 3: rubber boats, you need to brace yourself because you haven't
- 45:45Speaker 3: seen anything yet as to what these people are going
- 45:49Speaker 3: to do with this country. It will be unpleasant and unrecognizable.
- 45:54Speaker 3: So Andy Burnham, the longer he's allowed to get away
- 45:57Speaker 3: with this nonsense. the worse the situation's going to be.
- 46:01Speaker 3: Feeling a bit motivated today.
- 46:02Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, that one got you going, didn't it, Brian?
- 46:04Speaker 3: People have got to understand the sheer hypocrisy and the
- 46:08Speaker 3: viciousness of people like Andy Burnham in the political arena.
- 46:12Speaker 2: Yeah, couldn't agree more. Let's hear him talking again now
- 46:17Speaker 2: about his theory of growth for the country.
- 46:21Speaker 1: The government I lead will be relentless in giving people
- 46:25Speaker 1: and places what they were promised 10 years ago. Ownership
- 46:28Speaker 1: and control and from that control over their destiny comes
- 46:32Speaker 1: change and growth. I say this with confidence I do
- 46:37Speaker 1: I do let me explain why I because it is
- 46:42Speaker 1: backed by a decade of personal experience turning around one
- 46:48Speaker 1: of the UK's former industrial heartlands and turning it into
- 46:54Speaker 1: the fastest growing city region in the country, booking the
- 47:00Speaker 1: low growth trend. It has given me, Mr Speaker, a
- 47:04Speaker 1: clear theory of growth, and I will apply it to
- 47:07Speaker 1: all parts of the UK, learning from what has been
- 47:10Speaker 1: achieved in Greater Manchester. For a long time, the country
- 47:15Speaker 1: did not have ambitions for its regions outside of London.
- 47:19Speaker 1: It even talked of the managed decline of Liverpool. It
- 47:22Speaker 1: took the devolution of power out of this place to
- 47:26Speaker 1: allow our big city regions the ability to set new
- 47:29Speaker 1: ambitions for themselves. Now, I want every single place across
- 47:33Speaker 1: our regions and nations to be able to do the same,
- 47:36Speaker 1: creating the conditions for good growth in every postcode.
- 47:42Speaker 2: Good growth in every postcode that has destroyed the fabric
- 47:46Speaker 2: of Manchester.
- 47:47Speaker 3: And then he talks about ownership. We're going to give
- 47:50Speaker 3: people ownership. But of course, in Manchester, they can't afford
- 47:53Speaker 3: to buy the properties and many people can't afford to
- 47:57Speaker 3: rent the properties. So hypocrisy, just breathtaking.
- 48:01Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly is. And let's finally have a little listen
- 48:04Speaker 2: to his view on the role of government in driving
- 48:06Speaker 2: economic growth.
- 48:09Speaker 1: It is a clear answer to the question with which
- 48:12Speaker 1: this country has long wrestled. Who in government drives growth?
- 48:17Speaker 1: My theory of growth requires it to be driven with
- 48:19Speaker 1: the full authority of the very centre of government in
- 48:23Speaker 1: close partnership with HM Treasury. Number 10 North has been
- 48:27Speaker 1: set up with that full focus. The single front door
- 48:31Speaker 1: on which regions can knock to get quicker joined up
- 48:35Speaker 1: decisions from Whitehall and through which power and resources will
- 48:39Speaker 1: be passed to them. Resources will include human resources. This
- 48:45Speaker 1: is because a state which has grown too large at
- 48:49Speaker 1: the national level now needs to redirect civil service capacity
- 48:54Speaker 1: regionally and locally, repairing the damage of austerity and making
- 48:59Speaker 1: the service of place the state's first priority.
- 49:04Speaker 2: So my view is the state should have zero role
- 49:08Speaker 2: in economic growth. Its only job should be national security
- 49:11Speaker 2: and the administration of justice. If he can manage that,
- 49:15Speaker 2: which apparently he can't, actually.
- 49:18Speaker 3: But he is standing there in Westminster telling that audience,
- 49:23Speaker 3: and most of them do not understand what he's really telling.
- 49:26Speaker 3: He's telling them that your jobs are not going to
- 49:29Speaker 3: be there for much longer because I, Burnham, is going
- 49:32Speaker 3: to replace it with his new system of government created
- 49:36Speaker 3: behind a secretive number 10 closed door in the North.
- 49:42Speaker 3: It's truly astonishing. They're talking about the destruction of the
- 49:46Speaker 3: constitution of this country, the complete destruction. None of it
- 49:52Speaker 3: discussed at all in front of the House.
- 49:53Speaker 2: None of it. Absolutely none of it. And this is
- 49:58Speaker 2: all being done in plain sight. I mean, he's up
- 50:00Speaker 2: there in Parliament talking about it. They also issued this
- 50:03Speaker 2: document at the end of July rewiring the state. So
- 50:07Speaker 2: it's fairly definitive. They're telling us what they're doing here.
- 50:10Speaker 2: And within this, it basically explains the agenda top to bottom,
- 50:15Speaker 2: the ambition to transform the political and economic structure of
- 50:20Speaker 2: the entire country to completely retrain and reframe essentially the
- 50:24Speaker 2: civil service to create a future civil service that's going
- 50:27Speaker 2: to administer this new system. It's all going to be
- 50:29Speaker 2: governed through new and modern forms of public participation. So
- 50:33Speaker 2: this is all the citizens assemblies and stuff that we
- 50:35Speaker 2: talked about previously. And crucially, We want to move quickly
- 50:39Speaker 2: to deliver this agenda because they are, I think they're
- 50:41Speaker 2: scrabbling around at the moment. This is getting a little
- 50:43Speaker 2: bit desperate because unfortunately for them, people like UK Column
- 50:46Speaker 2: have been calling this out. And I believe more and
- 50:48Speaker 2: more people are beginning to wake up to what's actually
- 50:51Speaker 2: going on here. Also worth noting, this is an exceptionally
- 50:55Speaker 2: well planned out programme that we're being pushed into. This
- 51:00Speaker 2: from the local government information unit describes the next several
- 51:06Speaker 2: years actually of activity of this devolution agenda. You can
- 51:08Speaker 2: see here from 29th of June 26 with Burnham's first
- 51:13Speaker 2: speech talking about rebalancing power in the country. They've essentially
- 51:17Speaker 2: got a whole bunch of milestones running all the way
- 51:19Speaker 2: out to July 2029, at which point we'll have full
- 51:23Speaker 2: strategic authority coverage across England and That's at the end
- 51:26Speaker 2: of 2028. And then public service geographies aligned. I'm not
- 51:29Speaker 2: quite sure on the civil service gobbledygook, but that essentially means,
- 51:33Speaker 2: I think, that their power grab will be complete.
- 51:35Speaker 3: Yes, that's lockdown of government to the lowest level.
- 51:39Speaker 4: Yes.
- 51:39Speaker 3: That's what they're hoping to get by 2029.
- 51:42Speaker 2: Exactly. AKA, what I think is it's basically a stitch up.
- 51:46Speaker 2: And interestingly, local government information unit have been at this
- 51:51Speaker 2: for quite some time. Actually, you were talking earlier on
- 51:53Speaker 2: about Norse group. founded in 1988, just a year before
- 51:58Speaker 2: Common Purpose, we were founded in 1989. Even earlier than
- 52:02Speaker 2: that was the Local Government Information Unit, which was founded
- 52:06Speaker 2: in 1983. And funnily enough, Brian, we've got a familiar
- 52:10Speaker 2: face on their board. Look, there's Tudor Evans.
- 52:13Speaker 3: That's just a coincidence.
- 52:14Speaker 2: Just a coincidence. How did that happen? And they're already
- 52:18Speaker 2: racing ahead. You know, we've been talking about this for
- 52:20Speaker 2: quite some time. We've talked about local government reorganisation over
- 52:23Speaker 2: the previous 18 months. Surrey are actually taking the lead
- 52:27Speaker 2: on this stuff. So they've got a programme called Future Surrey.
- 52:31Speaker 2: And you can go to their website and you can
- 52:33Speaker 2: read all about what they're up to. But here's a
- 52:35Speaker 2: little glimpse into it. So here you have Surrey, which
- 52:38Speaker 2: has been divided into two now. So you've got West
- 52:40Speaker 2: Surrey and East Surrey. And then importantly... you've actually got
- 52:44Speaker 2: a new strategic authority that's going to get landed on
- 52:47Speaker 2: top of this. So we've been sold this as a
- 52:49Speaker 2: way of giving people more power and reducing complexity. And
- 52:56Speaker 2: actually what's happening is they're just reorganising things and then
- 52:59Speaker 2: putting another layer of administration on top. And for my money,
- 53:03Speaker 2: more complexity basically means zero accountability. You know, this is
- 53:07Speaker 2: going to be completely impenetrable from a ground level as
- 53:10Speaker 2: just a normal member of the public trying to actually
- 53:12Speaker 2: get this power structure to do anything that we might
- 53:18Speaker 2: want it to do. And really importantly, we have to
- 53:21Speaker 2: remember is that this has always been soundly rejected by
- 53:24Speaker 2: the electorate, not least in 2004 in the North East
- 53:27Speaker 2: England devolution referendum, where the voters said 78% to 22% no.
- 53:33Speaker 2: It's a total humiliation for Blair and Prescott. They should
- 53:35Speaker 2: have cancelled the entire devolution program if they were actually
- 53:38Speaker 2: interested in democracy. But instead of that, they cancelled all
- 53:41Speaker 2: the other referendums and they went ahead and did it anyway.
- 53:44Speaker 4: Right.
- 53:45Speaker 2: So there we go.
- 53:46Speaker 3: That's what dictatorships do.
- 53:48Speaker 2: Yes, exactly what we're looking at, Brian.
- 53:50Speaker 3: Now, of course, another part of the democratic system, another
- 53:56Speaker 3: part of the constitutional system is the church. And if
- 54:00Speaker 3: you're going to do a real job in destroying the country,
- 54:02Speaker 3: you have to destroy the church as well. Now, many
- 54:05Speaker 3: people last week emailed me this story. It's about St.
- 54:10Speaker 3: Paul's Cathedral, which has announced it's going to take out
- 54:15Speaker 3: a four-year partnership with the London nightclub Fabric. Now, many
- 54:22Speaker 3: people very hot under the collar about this. They were
- 54:25Speaker 3: talking about desecration of the church. They couldn't believe it.
- 54:29Speaker 3: They were surprised. Well, UK column not surprised at all.
- 54:33Speaker 3: We'll show you.
- 54:33Speaker 2: Why in a.
- 54:36Speaker 3: About the fact that churches are now to be made
- 54:39Speaker 3: into rave venues. And there are many little video clips
- 54:43Speaker 3: circulating online. Let's just have a look at a few seconds.
- 55:04Speaker 3: So I don't need to do too much on on
- 55:06Speaker 3: that because it is pretty gross, but nobody should be
- 55:10Speaker 3: at all surprised about this for a variety of reasons.
- 55:15Speaker 3: Let's ask that question on screen. Why the surprise? Well,
- 55:19Speaker 3: if you go and have a look at the UK
- 55:21Speaker 3: column again over the years, we have put up article
- 55:25Speaker 3: after article talking about the demise of the Church of England.
- 55:28Speaker 3: And of course, the destruction of the Church of England
- 55:32Speaker 3: is coming from the inside. by its own senior clergy
- 55:36Speaker 3: and the Archbishop of Canterbury. But that article there talking
- 55:41Speaker 3: about the church investing in pornography, weapons and embryonic stem cells.
- 55:48Speaker 3: Charles from the UK column has been reporting on a
- 55:51Speaker 3: lot of this. We've got this article here talking about
- 55:55Speaker 3: the trillions available to the Church of England and its
- 56:00Speaker 3: green agenda with overseas investors. But of course, meanwhile, There's
- 56:05Speaker 3: no money to pay for the church roofs. So all
- 56:08Speaker 3: of this hidden in plain sight. The church has got
- 56:12Speaker 3: to be destroyed if the whole of the state in
- 56:15Speaker 3: this country and the constitutional arrangements have also got to
- 56:19Speaker 3: be destroyed. Now, the BBC is in the background effectively helping.
- 56:24Speaker 3: This is not specifically about the church, but the BBC
- 56:27Speaker 3: here crowing about how this lady, Gloria Steinem, has changed
- 56:32Speaker 3: the lives of generations of women. This is by Women's
- 56:35Speaker 3: Rights and Women's Libs. But the BBC is showing what
- 56:39Speaker 3: the end result is with a massive article and many
- 56:43Speaker 3: articles all about K-pop. And of course, these are the
- 56:47Speaker 3: liberated women and role models for young girls in the
- 56:51Speaker 3: UK now from the age of six and upwards. And
- 56:55Speaker 3: the BBC just can't get enough of them. There is
- 56:58Speaker 3: article after article about praising them for their performances and
- 57:03Speaker 3: music and show. But of course, what's it doing to
- 57:06Speaker 3: the minds of very young children and particularly young girls? Well,
- 57:10Speaker 3: absolutely destroying them. Where do they want to go with
- 57:13Speaker 3: the churches? Well, I think it's going to be the
- 57:17Speaker 3: temple prostitutes is going to be the next stage inside
- 57:20Speaker 3: the churches, if we can call them churches. You prefer
- 57:25Speaker 3: to think of it as a temple. Well, I certainly
- 57:28Speaker 3: think of... St Paul's is a temple. I don't think
- 57:30Speaker 3: it's a Christian church. I don't think it's ever been
- 57:32Speaker 3: a Christian church. I think it's a Masonic temple, but
- 57:34Speaker 3: we can talk about that a lot more in extra.
- 57:37Speaker 3: And we can talk about fabric as well, because I
- 57:38Speaker 3: know quite a significant number of people who were probably
- 57:42Speaker 3: involved in that thing from my old days as a,
- 57:44Speaker 3: as a club promoter. And, you know, I don't think
- 57:47Speaker 3: that there's necessarily anything.
- 57:48Speaker 2: Wrong with, with raves or, or nightclubs or even that
- 57:51Speaker 2: kind of music. Right place, right time. But I mean,
- 57:55Speaker 2: there's really just, you know, it's, it's a, let's just
- 58:00Speaker 2: say it's a step too far going after cathedrals is
- 58:04Speaker 2: extraordinarily disrespectful. And I can't quite believe that they're doing it,
- 58:08Speaker 2: to be honest with you.
- 58:10Speaker 3: Okay, well, we have a few minutes left and I'm
- 58:12Speaker 3: going to end on the subject of oil. And obviously
- 58:16Speaker 3: everybody's suffering as they go to fill up their car
- 58:19Speaker 3: these days as the prices continue to climb. But a
- 58:22Speaker 3: lot of very interesting politics going on. And thank you
- 58:25Speaker 3: very much for the person who said to me, Brian,
- 58:28Speaker 3: have you been paying attention to Netanyahu's son, Yair, who's
- 58:32Speaker 3: been talking out on social media about the Falkland Islands?
- 58:39Speaker 3: And you'll see what the connection is with oil in
- 58:41Speaker 3: a minute. But here, War Monitor had posted that the
- 58:46Speaker 3: US is considering opposing Britain's sovereignty over the Falkland Islands
- 58:51Speaker 3: if defence spending under Andy Burnham is not increased. That
- 58:55Speaker 3: was a Telegraph report. Well, don't worry, because Andy Burnham
- 58:58Speaker 3: is going to spend and spend and spend to support Ukraine.
- 59:02Speaker 3: But young Netanyahu posted there, the Falkland Islands belong to Argentina.
- 59:09Speaker 3: now this sort of exchange of um posting went on
- 59:13Speaker 3: and um uh yeah here is talking at one point
- 59:19Speaker 3: about the falkland islands being a group of rocks 8
- 59:23Speaker 3: 000 miles away from uk and um And he also
- 59:28Speaker 3: starts to dig at us in this country, that his
- 59:33Speaker 3: point was not the Falkland Islands, but British hypocrisy and
- 59:37Speaker 3: hostility towards Israel with their recognition of Palestine on half
- 59:42Speaker 3: of our land and capital city. So this is a
- 59:46Speaker 3: pretty vicious attack. Obviously, the UK police won't be visiting him.
- 59:51Speaker 3: But if we go through the main tweet here, This
- 59:54Speaker 3: is what he had to say. You got offended by
- 59:57Speaker 3: my comment about the Falkland Islands, a bunch of rocks 8,000
- 1:00:01Speaker 3: miles from your shores.
- 1:00:02Speaker 5: Good.
- 1:00:03Speaker 3: Now imagine how we Israelis feel about your government's recognition
- 1:00:07Speaker 3: of Palestine over our ancestral heartland of Judea and Samaria,
- 1:00:12Speaker 3: its denial of our sovereignty over our capital Jerusalem at
- 1:00:15Speaker 3: the Golan Heights, and its consistent meddling in our internal
- 1:00:20Speaker 3: affairs and bashing of our country. These lands are in
- 1:00:24Speaker 3: the heart of our country, which is already roughly the
- 1:00:27Speaker 3: size of Wales, not lands 8,000 miles from your shores.
- 1:00:32Speaker 3: Your government criticise our country's response to October 7th in Gaza,
- 1:00:37Speaker 3: while it's clear that if your country had been invaded
- 1:00:39Speaker 3: by a terrorist group that killed, raped, tortured and kidnapped
- 1:00:43Speaker 3: thousands of Brits while firing thousands of rockets at your cities,
- 1:00:47Speaker 3: as we've experienced on October 7th, your responses would have
- 1:00:50Speaker 3: been much harsher. Britain flattened Germany during World War II,
- 1:00:55Speaker 3: killing millions of German civilians. The casualties caused by British
- 1:00:58Speaker 3: forces in Afghanistan and Iraq were also much higher than
- 1:01:02Speaker 3: those in Gaza, despite the fact that neither of these
- 1:01:05Speaker 3: countries had attacked Britain. Since the biggest massacre of Jews
- 1:01:11Speaker 3: since the Holocaust, we have experienced nothing but hostility, anti-Semitism,
- 1:01:15Speaker 3: and blood libels from your government, and alliance goes both ways. Well,
- 1:01:21Speaker 3: remember that The UK public are told that Israel is
- 1:01:24Speaker 3: our friend, but quite clearly in the Netanyahu family, that's
- 1:01:29Speaker 3: not the case. Now, this exchange caused quite a lot
- 1:01:32Speaker 3: of pushback. And one person here commented, you're going to
- 1:01:37Speaker 3: turn every Brit against Israel. Maybe that's what you want. Well,
- 1:01:41Speaker 3: what does he want? We're not too sure of. But
- 1:01:45Speaker 3: John Galt here said that 90% of all British military
- 1:01:49Speaker 3: casualties since 1982 were was suffered fighting the enemies of Israel.
- 1:01:54Speaker 3: But Israel has never sent a single IDF soldier to
- 1:01:57Speaker 3: help Britain and never sent a single IDF soldier to
- 1:02:01Speaker 3: help anyone. And of course, Yeh are not fighting with
- 1:02:04Speaker 3: the IDF himself. He's been hiding in the States. But
- 1:02:08Speaker 3: if we follow this through, we get into a deeper area,
- 1:02:13Speaker 3: which is to do with oil. And John Galt here
- 1:02:17Speaker 3: flagging this up again, talking about the discovery of the
- 1:02:21Speaker 3: sea lion oil field in the Falklands. And if we
- 1:02:25Speaker 3: make this a bit easier, excuse me, we've got to
- 1:02:27Speaker 3: come into the Israeli energy industry. And so, first of all,
- 1:02:32Speaker 3: we've got the powerful DELEC group. And this is also
- 1:02:38Speaker 3: under the, sorry, working with the control of Yitzhak Teshuvah.
- 1:02:44Speaker 3: And if we bring in a little bit more, excuse me,
- 1:02:47Speaker 3: suffering today, We see that this company, Ithaca, is actually
- 1:02:54Speaker 3: heavily involved in North Sea oil and gold gas, working
- 1:02:59Speaker 3: from Aberdeen. And we've also got a powerful element looking
- 1:03:04Speaker 3: at energy in the eastern Mediterranean. But we've also got
- 1:03:08Speaker 3: this size, another Israeli company called Navitas. And that is
- 1:03:15Speaker 3: here with the Israeli E & P Group. And now
- 1:03:19Speaker 3: we see that it's actually got 65% of the sea
- 1:03:22Speaker 3: lion Falkland oil discoveries, which in phase one is 11
- 1:03:28Speaker 3: wells with the production, which is supposed to go online
- 1:03:33Speaker 3: in 2008 of 50,000 barrels a day. So it's very
- 1:03:38Speaker 3: interesting that as the young Netanyahu ramps up the angst,
- 1:03:43Speaker 3: and of course he's kowtowing to the situation with Argentina
- 1:03:46Speaker 3: at the moment, that there is Israel in the background
- 1:03:51Speaker 3: with control not only over North Sea oil, but oil
- 1:03:55Speaker 3: recently discovered in the Falklands. So if we put a
- 1:03:59Speaker 3: notice over the top of this, as we see rising
- 1:04:02Speaker 3: oil prices, it can only be good for Israel that
- 1:04:07Speaker 3: the war with Iran is pushing up the oil prices
- 1:04:11Speaker 3: because Israel is hoovering in the profits from the North Sea.
- 1:04:15Speaker 3: but also will shortly be hoovering up the profits from
- 1:04:19Speaker 3: oil around the Falkland Islands. So is Israel our friend,
- 1:04:24Speaker 3: as the Conservative and Labour parties like us to believe
- 1:04:28Speaker 3: with Conservative and Labour friends of Israel? Or is something
- 1:04:33Speaker 3: rather different going on here that we are being taken
- 1:04:36Speaker 3: for a ride by a hostile state? I'll leave it
- 1:04:40Speaker 3: to the audience to decide what's really at work.
- 1:04:43Speaker 2: That's a very, very, very good question, Brian. And I
- 1:04:45Speaker 2: must say, I haven't seen Tommy Robinson talking about this.
- 1:04:49Speaker 3: No, well, of course, there's a lot that the so-called
- 1:04:53Speaker 3: right wing don't want to talk about, particularly if they're
- 1:04:56Speaker 3: tied in with Israel and Israeli funding itself.
- 1:05:00Speaker 2: Yeah, just keep on talking about small boat migrants, shall we?
- 1:05:03Speaker 2: And also the idea that the current Labour government is
- 1:05:06Speaker 2: some kind of enemy of Israel, given what I've described
- 1:05:10Speaker 2: in terms of Manchesterism essentially being a totally Zionist economic
- 1:05:13Speaker 2: policy and political policy. So anyway, yes, lots for us
- 1:05:18Speaker 2: to get into in Extra, which we must progress to
- 1:05:21Speaker 2: post-haste because we're out of time today, unfortunately. So much
- 1:05:25Speaker 2: to talk about. We could probably sit here all afternoon.
- 1:05:28Speaker 2: Thank you so much for everyone who's been tuned in
- 1:05:31Speaker 2: at home in the UK and all around the world.
- 1:05:35Speaker 2: Don't forget, tonight we've got German at seven, Carl's at nine.
- 1:05:38Speaker 2: Big interview tomorrow with Brian and Charles. And of course,
- 1:05:42Speaker 2: Mike and the team will be back on Wednesday for
- 1:05:44Speaker 2: the news at one o'clock UK time. Until then, take care. Goodbye.
- 1:05:48Speaker 3: Bye-bye.
- 1:05:54Speaker 4: Thank you.