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- 0:36hey kids, welcome back to another episode of the CFL Outsiders.
- 0:43I remain as always here one hundred percent impartial, completely unbiased, and at different odds host Old Man Shouting at Clouds.
- 0:54Joining me as usual this week we have our panel of experts, MJ.
- 1:00Hey everyone, I just want you to know based on one two-quarters of one preseason game, I am now accepting apologies for everyone who told me that Trey Ford was washed up not good
- 1:17because words I heard were dazzle and cinematic.
- 1:21Yes, indeed.
- 1:22And don't adjust your sets.
- 1:25You're not seeing double.
- 1:26It's MJ2 as well this week.
- 1:29Hi everyone, uh really happy to be here.
- 1:31I am so excited.
- 1:33Thursday is the first game of the season and I'm so glad that the Ti-cats are playing on Thursday and not on Saturday.
- 1:41Yes.
- 1:41And joining us again from somewhere in Europe, an an undisclosed location perhaps, perhaps not.
- 1:48It's the man who's taken time from his vacation to be here because he's so dedicated, GT.
- 1:54Hey everyone, good morning again.
- 1:56It's still four o'clock in the morning.
- 1:58I'm still drinking beer.
- 2:00And uh this week I'm coming to you live from Prague.
- 2:04Um been having a great time.
- 2:06a couple things that because last week I just want to get let everyone know I was kind of jet lagged in last week's episode.
- 2:12So sorry for no energy and uh then the internet doing its thing too and it kind of made it all messed up.
- 2:18But I apologize for last week's
- 2:20version I hope this week's will be better.
- 2:22A couple of things I'd like to clear up right off the top from last week that I didn't get to mention because uh the internet didn't allow me to was that first of all shout out to
- 2:31some new friends that I made in uh Budapest last week, Frank and Amy Stelke from Boston, uh who immediately became subscribers to the show.
- 2:39So I hope that you did what you've had a chance, Frank and Amy to watch the the
- 2:43Some of last week's and you will stick around for a little bit while at least and become a regular.
- 2:49Appreciate all our chats on on Doug Flutie and and general stuff.
- 2:54So that was real fun.
- 2:55And the other thing that happened in Budapest that was terrific was that I was able to hook up and spend a few minutes or actually a few couple of hours with Oz Davis from the
- 3:04Rouge, White and Blue.
- 3:05So we had
- 3:06Yeah, so we had the two of the two of two CFL podcasters hanging out and having beers together in Budapest though, which was kind of fun.
- 3:13and a fun fact that not a lot of people, including myself, might know is that like this group here, we've never actually met each other.
- 3:21We've been podcasting together for uh now what, this is our second season and we've never physically been in the same space.
- 3:27Well Oz and Joe Pritchard, who run the Rouge, White and Blue, have never met each other either.
- 3:33And they've been doing it for over 10 years.
- 3:36So it is possible.
- 3:37those and uh and it was fun to know I did not know that when I met with Oz, but that was great.
- 3:43so shout out to him as well.
- 3:45And yeah, other than that, the only thing that I can tell you from this side of the pond is unfortunately, uh last week in Vienna, the Vienna Vikings were not in town, so I didn't
- 3:55get to go to their game.
- 3:56They were on the road.
- 3:58but there was lots of posters everywhere for the Vienna Vikings, which seemed to be more
- 4:02More postering around town for them than I've seen in most CFL cities.
- 4:06That's the update, kids.
- 4:08we like to hear what's going on and especially well, first of all, hello and welcome to the latest to members of Outsider Nation.
- 4:16And I hope hope we can entertain you.
- 4:18And I did not know that about about Oz.
- 4:22and Pritchard I they just they seem like they've they work so well together
- 4:26I did want to mention to folks it is a brand new season, which is why we're excited.
- 4:30my disappointed part is, of course, well, the show's team lost its final preseason game, so I have to be a little disappointed.
- 4:38But really excited about what's coming up and how we're going to have a fan.
- 4:42I do I I mention that mostly to see MJ's reaction.
- 4:45Ha.
- 4:46Anyway, I want to remind you, we're we're definitely we're past the preseason.
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- 6:19Yeah, there's a couple of lines for the song I could use but I won't.
- 6:22I just wanna jump up and down his head to the dock.
- 6:25I just jumped up.
- 6:26You're our man.
- 6:27uh
- 6:32look it up.
- 6:33It's amazing.
- 6:34I thought I wasn't sure whether you were doing Alice's restaurant or the shopping channel there for a little bit, old man.
- 6:39It was one or the other.
- 6:40I wasn't sure which.
- 6:43my impersonations aren"t I got that I thought I'd talk about.
- 6:48I don't know if you've seen this GT bin over in Europe, but they dropped the or the they've given out the Riders Grey Cup rings from uh from last year.
- 6:58And I've seen some criticisms.
- 7:00Most people tend to seem to be thinking it's
- 7:04It's pretty good.
- 7:05Apparently go hard is now a good thing, and I've seen a lot of that on it.
- 7:09So just to let you know, real quick, they put together a committee.
- 7:12Trevor Harris, Jameer Thurman, Jorgen who's the bac long snapper who's retired now, Corey Mason, Jeremy O'Dea, um designed this sucker.
- 7:21It's got the
- 7:23Logo or the writer's logo over top of a gray cup.
- 7:26It's got, I believe it is 14 of one type of stone to recommend to uh recognize every victory of the season.
- 7:34It's got another type, and I don't know what these differences are, but four of them at the bottom for the four previous gray cups and one in the gray cup itself to represent
- 7:43this victory.
- 7:44It's like the um Argo's done before.
- 7:47It's a class, so you can open it up.
- 7:49The inside is then Mosaic Stadium.
- 7:52And on the upper part of the inside is a authentic piece of the Grey Cup Game Ball Leather, which apparently they had a tradition I didn't hear about before it.
- 8:04They were putting a burn on one of the beams above the entrance to the locker room last year for every win.
- 8:09So they've replicated that now on the leather.
- 8:12That's what they've given out.
- 8:14Who's seen it and what are your thoughts?
- 8:16I just looked it up.
- 8:17This is really fun.
- 8:18I I really like that it's interactive and I know that's not the first one, but I do like the idea that it does include like some of that game ball leather.
- 8:27That's a that's special.
- 8:29Like that's a great memory for someone to keep.
- 8:31Yeah.
- 8:33It is gaudy and therefore perfect.
- 8:35Yes.
- 8:36Everything a championship ring should be right in your face.
- 8:39Look at this.
- 8:40Yeah.
- 8:41Exactly.
- 8:43Oh, all I know is it's dazzling.
- 8:46I was gonna go back and search their reports for the last four Grey Cup rings and see if they use uh some sort of w wording like that for those, but I know it was dazzling and as
- 8:56for uh
- 8:56The piece of field or whatever it is that you mentioned there.
- 8:59I that's the first I've heard of that one 'cause I did not read the articles.
- 9:02But that just reminds me of the old Black Oak Arkansas record where you got a square inch of Arkansas when you bought the album.
- 9:09they they gave you a a titled land deed for one square inch of Arkansas when you bought the record.
- 9:15I have to admit that may be the part I like about it the best.
- 9:18The fact that it's the leather from the ball and there's a little chunk of it in there for it.
- 9:22I like that.
- 9:22But anyway, unless there's anything else on that, we'll we'll jump along to some of the other big news that's been going on.
- 9:29And that is the broadcast deal has been announced.
- 9:33And I think.
- 9:34We might have talked about this a little bit last week.
- 9:36I can't remember if it came out or not.
- 9:38If we didn't, anyway, it's a big change.
- 9:41The CFL on T S N will be carrying the bulk of the games, but not the Saturday games.
- 9:49Saturday games are going to what I'm told is pronounced Dazone.
- 9:53D-A-Z-N.
- 9:55I don't get it anyway.
- 9:56It's a streaming channel.
- 9:57they'll be handling all of the Saturday games.
- 10:00And two playoff games.
- 10:02And then they've well, no, sorry.
- 10:05One one game a Saturday.
- 10:06Yeah, sorry.
- 10:07I should thank you for that, MJ.
- 10:08they'll be handling one evening Eastern game a week.
- 10:11they won't be doing anything out of the West, so it sounds like it'll be basically Toronto Hamilton.
- 10:16maybe the other two cities with it.
- 10:19uh that's a streaming platform that people will now have to subscribe to.
- 10:23YouTube has also been named as a special promotional partner, I believe.
- 10:29So we'll have to see what that means.
- 10:30There's no word on that at all.
- 10:33Um I have a bit of a mini rant on this, but before I do that, I'll I'll let you folks jump in.
- 10:40Have you heard any about this while you're over there, GT?
- 10:44Yeah, I was able to read uh through it a few times and try to keep uh keep gist of what it was.
- 10:50It's we all knew it was coming to a streaming service.
- 10:53We all wanted a streaming service.
- 10:54None of us thought about the cost of a streaming service, I think, until it flap it's now slapped us in the face, although z there's no cost associated with it as of right now.
- 11:04They haven't figured out what it's going to be.
- 11:06The one thing I did read was that Dizone is also, of course, their international partner, so there will be no more CFL plus.
- 11:13Uh as such, it w so if I'm sitting here next year, I will be watching games on DZone rather than on CFL Plus, which may be much better be for the international market because
- 11:24Dizone did say they are going to do their own broadcast team.
- 11:28So it'll be interesting even for outside of the games that they um have on Saturday nights, what they're going to do for the rest of the games internationally, whether
- 11:37they're gonna
- 11:38do their own broadcast or whether they would just again use the TSN broadcast or not.
- 11:42But that'll be a nice change.
- 11:44It'll be a great change to have another broadcast team of some sort to give competition to TSN's broadcast team to maybe have to up their quality So that'll be good.
- 11:55And DZone is of course a streaming service that you do have to pay for.
- 12:00But they have not yet said whether they will have an actual CFL only subscription model or whether they will have you will have to buy the entire channel, which I think is about $25
- 12:11a month Canadian, if I re if I'm getting my numbers right.
- 12:15However, they did say as well that DZone will be carrying all the games internationally and they will be doing that for free, like it is sort of for CFL Plus.
- 12:25So
- 12:26I'm not sure if I've already in my you know, miserly mind, wondered whether we'll be able to use a VPN in Canada and be able to pick up the games for free off of a VPN and then not
- 12:37have to worry about you getting the subscription rate and how long if that does work, how long it'll take for shut us down.
- 12:45But nonetheless, that's gonna be my first option.
- 12:48But we shall see.
- 12:50but anything, I think it's interesting.
- 12:52I think it's good.
- 12:53Um
- 12:53That again, DZone it does have a lot of other broadcasts, international things that they do.
- 12:59they seem to be um pretty high profile.
- 13:02They they get a lot of pressed and they seem to do things right.
- 13:06So I I'm I'm okay with this.
- 13:08You know, I'm not big fan of having to pay for another package, but I don't know that anywhere else you don't have to pay for another package uh either.
- 13:15So it it's kind of today's world.
- 13:18Well, this is similar to what the NHL has done with the, you know, Monday night prime games or um app like baseball with Apple T V.
- 13:28And so I feel like it makes sense that this is sort of the way things are going.
- 13:32I feel like they're testing out to see how this works, how people respond.
- 13:36Because in our house we get cable because we watch a lot of sports and sometimes streaming isn't the best.
- 13:43But I was also just in Europe and
- 13:46everywhere do zone that's the games that they were playing that's what they watch and so i got really excited i mean minus the pay for the part i don't like but the the new
- 13:57commentators and and what that means and what that's going to look like and i think you're right that competition of what are we trying to build how are you going to differentiate
- 14:06your broadcast from this one
- 14:08And getting to know some new personalities is always um kind of interesting, but I wonder, yeah, like you said, GT, if they're going to continue to have those commentators for all
- 14:18the games or use the T SN broadcast and just broadcast that.
- 14:23different crew.
- 14:24So there won't be any like they might use the TSN cameras, but they're not gonna use the crew, like the commentators or the panel.
- 14:31I was like the I was thinking Yeah.
- 14:37but I don't know about the rest of the games that they don't have the broadcast rights to, but they are going to broadcast internationally.
- 14:43That's where I'm gonna that's where that's I would think so.
- 14:49I would think so.
- 14:49I actually be speaking of which I thought it was kind of funny that they did the big announcement and then within the next couple of days there was a preseason game on CFL
- 14:58Plus.
- 14:59And the one that I watched and there was oh coming next year and D zone as the next big thing and it was all T S N moments T S N highlight packages.
- 15:10I kinda thought, I guess you had to use but nonetheless I thought it was a little amusing.
- 15:15I sincerely hope that it is better than Blue Jays on Apple TV, which is objectively awful.
- 15:25It is so awful and like just infuriating.
- 15:29So I hope that they get some good people in, and I was like, hmm, I wonder what CBC people they might pull over.
- 15:36It's like maybe Darren Flutie might come back or Gregory Frerez.
- 15:41Yeah.
- 15:42I'm like, hmm, you never know.
- 15:44I'm it ex it'll be interesting to explain to our dad that his BC Lion games are not on Saturday nights on TSN.
- 15:53We're we're gonna sorry dad, we're gonna get texts about it.
- 15:56We might have to split the zone three ways and two houses get to watching one game per week.
- 16:02Like
- 16:02well, yeah, that's that's another thing.
- 16:05Will you be able to split like, you know, at least into different rooms?
- 16:09So will you you know, if you want to watch the zone in two different or three different devices at the same time on an account and so on.
- 16:16So all those streaming kind of questions that you have with any streaming device have not been answered and it's at least a year away.
- 16:23It is a year away, so I guess we will learn more as they go, but there are lots of questions for sure.
- 16:28most major leagues in the North America do this.
- 16:32Like NFL you need like seven different s subscriptions to watch NFL football.
- 16:38MLB and like we are lucky in Canada with the Blue Jays that like ninety eight percent of the games are on Sports Net because if you are a a fan in the US, good luck finding your
- 16:48game.
- 16:48Good luck.
- 16:49They're everywhere.
- 16:50They're blacked out.
- 16:51it's a mess.
- 16:53I think NBA does something.
- 16:54Yeah, Prime, Monday Nights, um, NHL.
- 16:57I mean, I think I think some people were hoping that it wouldn't be Dizone because things like Apple and Prime, a lot of people already have.
- 17:04Most people have a Prime account, most people have a Netflix account.
- 17:07So DZone is a little bit of a tough pill to swallow when if you don't pay for the yearly package, it is $35 a month.
- 17:14uh
- 17:16really like the fact that it is designed because they are sports oriented.
- 17:21watching yeah, watching like that
- 17:24Baseball on Apple TV was brutal.
- 17:27Um if you are a fan of the game and not just a fan, it was really hard.
- 17:33Um same thing we watch a lot of hockey in our house and to do the prime, it it was really hard getting used to different commentators and how they do things and like they threw a
- 17:44lot of money at it, but I don't think it had I mean I guess they get better at it the more they do it, but that's what I'm hopeful is that at least the zone specializes focused
- 17:53is only does sports.
- 17:56And so that to me means like maybe we'll get some really good production quality because this is something that they they already do.
- 18:04Well I think I personally agree with just about everything you say.
- 18:07uh I've got one issue not even so much with the broadcast deal itself.
- 18:12I think that like you said it's it's got a chance to increase the international viewership of the CFL.
- 18:19I think that it's something that we were gonna get no matter what, and maybe going with a sports service is a good thing.
- 18:25Now I will say that they have
- 18:27Apparently 20 million subscribers worldwide.
- 18:31It's hard to get an answer on that for Canada.
- 18:35It looks like in Canada they're probably somewhere between about 400,000 and a million.
- 18:41And I reading between the lines, it looks like it's on the closer to the lower end at this point.
- 18:45Maybe that'll up a bunch with the CFL.
- 18:48But my problem with this is not the deal, but there are people out there
- 18:53That are defending this to the death of what a wonderful thing it is.
- 18:57And they keep saying the same thing.
- 18:58So it's an extra 25 bucks a month.
- 19:00Well, we don't know if it's going to be an extra 25 bucks a month.
- 19:03It's going to be whatever it's going to be.
- 19:04And I can't see the price going down.
- 19:06And they're going, but what's that?
- 19:08You know, anybody can afford that.
- 19:09If you're a real fan, you're you're gonna bid just pay that.
- 19:13And then they turn around and say, and the great thing about it is this is this like platform that attracts all the younger people, the young men and and younger families.
- 19:22Well, if you're a young family, twenty five bucks more a month that you're not budgeted for can be significant.
- 19:28And I really I get annoyed at people who just assume that that everybody can just afford a little bit more of this.
- 19:37So are you chasing away fans you have that are young fans who now can't see their team three, four times a year and does not chase them away, but does that reduce the engagement
- 19:48on it?
- 19:49this is like when T um CFL moved from C B C to TSN.
- 19:54So but a little bit same difference.
- 19:56but they started with like f it's like someone pointed this out to me.
- 19:59I don't even know if it's true or not, but that like they went from they went from fifteen games originally over to TSN and then the rest were on C B C.
- 20:07And they're like, Well you were your family just would have paid for cable to watch all those games.
- 20:10And I was like, I don't think our parents paid for cable to watch fifteen games of CFL football.
- 20:16We just didn't watch them.
- 20:17And then actually for about 10 years, I didn't even have cable because I couldn't afford it.
- 20:22And I just did I went to um I was living in Calgary.
- 20:25I went to one CFL game a year when the Ti Cats came to town, and that's the only thing I could afford to go to.
- 20:29so we're already paying for a hundred streaming services.
- 20:32I pay for TSN, I pay for SportsNet, I pay for Prime, I pay for Netflix, I'm so adding twenty-five to thirty-five dollars a month extra is a big deal.
- 20:40Yeah.
- 20:41It is a big deal and for for four games a month, it is a that is a big chunk of change.
- 20:47And I r didn't really appreciate the three down guys calling me out like that 'cause I'm like I have been very poor where I couldn't even watch football because it wasn't on a
- 20:56free broadcast.
- 20:57And how many people did they lose moving f it from C B C to T S N?
- 21:01I mean, do they ever have numbers on that?
- 21:03I don't know.
- 21:03I don't remember.
- 21:04But I mean it is good competition for TSN because like let's be honest it's getting a little like uh slack over there.
- 21:10So they they do need some competition.
- 21:13Well, and I guess I don't know much about broadcasting at all or numbers, money, but I I was curious why they didn't go back to C B C.
- 21:21Maybe C B C doesn't have the money um that they were looking for, because that's how I watch all of the Northern Super League soccer games.
- 21:30like the Canadian Base or Basketball League is on C B C as well.
- 21:35W H L is on.
- 21:37Yeah.
- 21:37so I'm I'm just it it looks like C B C is kinda cornering the market on a lot of those sports that families watch.
- 21:44And so that got me thinking, well, it was like I guess always follow the money.
- 21:50So was it did they even maybe consider and I guess w I I'll never know and not that that matters, but I'm just really curious why they went with um DZON streaming um paywall
- 22:01versus a deal with C V C and it probably does come down to money.
- 22:06Because they want twenty year olds who are betting.
- 22:08They don't care that you're s five year olds watching the game.
- 22:11They want twenty year old men who are betting.
- 22:14That's where the money is.
- 22:15That's where money is now.
- 22:17That's it that's where it is.
- 22:18That's where all sports is going.
- 22:20They don't care if you're at the stadium.
- 22:23They don't care if you're necessarily even watching it.
- 22:27They just want you betting on it.
- 22:28And I think part of it, my conspiracy is, is that they hope that they'll accidentally think it's an
- 22:33NFL game and just start watching it.
- 22:39Like, like when it goes on to the zone and they're pulling all the NFL games.
- 22:43I'm like someone they're just hoping some like guys hanging out are just accidentally gonna start watching it.
- 22:50And that's their new demographic.
- 22:53exactly.
- 22:53And and and it might have been the money some bit, but I do think it's more of that.
- 22:57The fact that they're trying to and to their credit, you the you do need to lower the age of your fan base if you wanna stay healthy and financial and all.
- 23:06And they're looking at the fact that apparently, I don't know, but I'm told that an awful lot of people in that young generation just don't bother with cable.
- 23:14They do everything through streaming now anyway.
- 23:17So there's that
- 23:18But if you're paying for cable, you are paying probably at least a hundred bucks a month for a minimum package that would have T S N.
- 23:25And if you're not, then if you want to watch the CFL, yeah, this isn't under twenty five bucks, but you're also already paying thirty bucks for T SN streaming.
- 23:33So now you're at fifty five bucks a month, you know, for for half the year, that's not a a small ch chunk of change.
- 23:40But
- 23:40get a discount on my TSN subscription because I'm gonna be down four games a month?
- 23:46Not a chance
- 23:47luck.
- 23:47Good luck.
- 23:49Now
- 23:49gonna ask if you got a press discount 'cause you're in a podcast.
- 23:54I should!
- 23:55Can I write off my TSN subscription?
- 23:58I I think so.
- 23:59It's important to be able to do this.
- 24:00Yes.
- 24:02Anyway, I will say the upside the two upsides to the deal that I do see are the fact that they're taking over the preseason games, which means we should see better production,
- 24:15better value on that, because they're not gonna go in with just a a a cut down stadium crew because that's their product going ahead.
- 24:22that the preseason games are gonna be on YouTube.
- 24:24okay, are they 'cause the initial announcement I heard was D uh Zone, whatever.
- 24:29um d the you preseason's gonna be on YouTube.
- 24:32Okay, well we'll see how they do with that.
- 24:34The other good thing with this deal is they were talking about the fact that there there's also going to be coverage of the combine out of it.
- 24:40Now whether that'll be YouTube or or or DZone, I don't know, but that
- 24:45it'll be on YouTube so with that's free for everyone, right?
- 24:47Like that'll be nice.
- 24:50Yes.
- 24:51And l and my last thought on it was I think possibly this explains the expanded playoff format because they needed two playoff games to give to Dzone and they didn't have enough.
- 25:04Which fits that fits into the no ties because if we're thinking about gambling, can't have a tie.
- 25:09Yeah.
- 25:10Yes.
- 25:11I will point out that I think it was JC Abbott on three down about two or three weeks ago who said there is no guarantee we'll never have another tie in the CFL.
- 25:21'Cause the name the the rule doesn't say anything about what happens if you're in a game that's tied and has gone far enough to be considered a result and then you get a rain
- 25:31delay of eight hours.
- 25:34You get a tie.
- 25:35And or do they change the rule for that?
- 25:37Trust somebody to find the most obscure thing that it could be.
- 25:40But anyway, what did y'all think of the fact that Ryan Dinwiddie came out before even watching Drew Brown in a game and named Jake Maier his starting quarterback?
- 25:51Drew was so mad in that game, he was like throwing like his life depended on it.
- 25:56He's like, I'll show you what's up, Ryan.
- 25:58Like
- 25:59Yeah, interesting.
- 26:00I don't know.
- 26:01I don't I don't even know what ri he's a magician though, so who knows?
- 26:05It's probably gonna be amazing.
- 26:06He's the quarterback whisperer, yes.
- 26:09I'm not surprised at all.
- 26:10He's it's some from the day he was hired in his first press conference, he said, I'm not comfortable with Drew Brown.
- 26:16He flat out said, you know, it's gonna be an open content.
- 26:19He didn't even have Jake Maier in those days.
- 26:21He didn't even have another quarterback and he was already downplaying Drew Brown before last season was basically over.
- 26:29So he did he get a fair shake at at training camp?
- 26:32Who knows?
- 26:33Um was it was it already preset that Maier was gonna be the guy?
- 26:37who knows?
- 26:38but it certainly reminds me a little bit of the Edmonton scenario from the past few years where it was like, yeah, no, uh, we're talking through our R, but it's really going to be
- 26:47someone else.
- 26:48It's not going to be Trey Ford and it's not going to be Brown.
- 26:51it's both it's interesting that both of those guys signed almost identical deals three years ago and when they moved to new teams, by based on their
- 27:00on the same agent and now they've both been relegated to backup status on on different teams, or at least in Tre Ford has.
- 27:08so but at least Dru Brown's still making the starter money.
- 27:11So you know that's not so bad for him and good for him.
- 27:14At least he's got that this year in his bank.
- 27:17but uh I would be pissed and I don't blame him if he it looked like he was, even though he was doing his best in the interview that I saw not to look like he was.
- 27:25He was
- 27:26He still looked like he was and he deserves to be pissed, if he didn't even get a fair shot.
- 27:30hey, it's all Jake Maier will fool ya That's all I can say.
- 27:35Yeah.
- 27:35stamps fan, you know very well, yes.
- 27:38Yeah.
- 27:38uh
- 27:40I don't know.
- 27:41It was a bold move.
- 27:43give uh give Coach Dinwiddie his credit.
- 27:45he believes in what he does and moves ahead with bold move.
- 27:48I did find it interesting that after doing that in the s game, the the next preseason game where they got to play, they gave Maier over a quarter to play and he was six for nine and
- 27:59thirty five yards and did not look near as good as he did the week before.
- 28:04And then Dru Brown came out and they gave him two drives where he went seven for eight and two touchdowns.
- 28:08And all of a sudden, real quick, he was off there.
- 28:11do not want a quarterback controversy going at this point.
- 28:15But uh yeah, after after his first touchdown, this didn't happen.
- 28:19Well, part of it happened.
- 28:20After his first touchdown, he came running over and and he talked to Jake Maier of course, is the way the quarterbacks always talk after s usually after a series or stuff like that.
- 28:30But in my mind, he ran over and he said,
- 28:32That's how you do a starting performance.
- 28:37No
- 28:38I was just is it not working?
- 28:41Can you hear me?
- 28:43okay.
- 28:44sorry.
- 28:44I was just
- 28:45we're just we're just way more aggressive than you are, MJ too.
- 28:48So yeah so yeah, you got fight for your right as you know, as the beastie said, fight for your right to party.
- 28:54Come on, let's go.
- 28:55Yeah.
- 28:55This is bare knuckle broadcasting.
- 28:58Ha ha ha.
- 28:59But I can't help but think after coming out of a training camp, you've got all of your offensive team thinking, okay, so we're going with Jake Mayer, but what if you wanna stick
- 29:10with Dru Brown?
- 29:12And so I don't know, that's like you like as a player I think that that would be good that you had a clear direction from your coach and you knew, but also when you're seeing this
- 29:25like backup
- 29:27get the results, that that might be tricky yeah, controversy.
- 29:32Yeah, it's possible.
- 29:33I ha I had in my notes from later in the game that the starting unit that were out there at the start of both preseason games didn't seem to have quite the jump in their step that
- 29:43they did the first week.
- 29:45And is that maybe 'cause they're Brown people.
- 29:50And I I don't think we're gonna see the full on sulk that we saw in B C a few years ago when Nathan came back and
- 29:56replaced VA.
- 29:58But if you don't really believe in the quarterback you've got out there, do you perform as well?
- 30:03So is there gonna be any kind of a quarterback?
- 30:06Yeah, is there gonna be yeah, exactly.
- 30:08Is there gonna be any kind of locker room repercussions?
- 30:11Who knows?
- 30:11lessons.
- 30:12No lessons have been learned.
- 30:14That's exactly it.
- 30:15I'm like we've lived this before.
- 30:16they just forget them.
- 30:19Or or yeah.
- 30:22This time it'll be different.
- 30:23This time it's me doing it.
- 30:25Yeah it
- 30:26Good luck, Jake.
- 30:27Hope you do well.
- 30:33Yeah, that's right.
- 30:35We don't No wait!
- 30:37Yeah, we're we're Argo fans.
- 30:39Forgot about that.
- 30:41Ha ha.
- 30:41Hard to forget.
- 30:43I'm moving on.
- 30:45Uh the th they did the cuts and most of them were again people that we've never heard of.
- 30:51Rather than run through a sort of a team by team thing, I've got a list of about yeah maybe a dozen people here that I'll just ramble off the names and then we can talk about
- 31:02it from there about whether you thought it would happen or whatever.
- 31:05So this is in no particular order of teams because of how I put them together.
- 31:09I
- 31:10lineman Vandal from Toronto, who's been a starter, was released.
- 31:14tackle Kendall Randolph from Winnipeg was released.
- 31:17Defensive lineman, Kenny Onyeka from Hamilton.
- 31:21Defensive lineman, Dylan Wynne.
- 31:23Chico Bennett Jr.
- 31:24from Saskatchewan.
- 31:25I added him in there.
- 31:26That's not a name that you're probably going to be familiar with.
- 31:29He came into the Riders camp, or he came in with the Riders late last year and got into a couple of games.
- 31:34And everybody was saying at the start of the season.
- 31:38At the start of camp, he was the front runner to get a starting position at that extra D end.
- 31:43So to see him gone is a little bit strange.
- 31:46Casey, the linebacker from Toronto also surprised a lot of people.
- 31:50Deonte Ruffin from BC, Tyson Blackburn.
- 31:54they're both DBs, Tyson Blackburn out of Toronto.
- 31:57DeAndre Lamont, another D B out of Winnipeg.
- 32:00The kicker out of Saskatchewan Kim, and I'm told that came down more to nationality than anything.
- 32:06And this one who is probably not going to be a name most people recognize, but it was the MJ curse on him, so I had to say that Bly from Ottawa also got cut.
- 32:16Yeah.
- 32:17I know.
- 32:18Any thoughts on any of those?
- 32:20Are they people that are past their prime?
- 32:22Are there s ones I also I didn't have Hergey Malala from uh BC in there and he was
- 32:29cut Newton.
- 32:30He had three touchdowns in that preseason game and they cut him the next day.
- 32:36And I'm actually surprised Dylan Wynne got cut, but
- 32:39You know, th there was there's what happened to Super Mario Alfred, so I'm thinking the way to get cut in Ti Cat camp is score a bunch of touchdowns.
- 32:46Yeah, do well.
- 32:46We don't like that.
- 32:49We might win a gray cup that we that can't be happening.
- 32:52No no.
- 32:54No no Can't have you show up Kenny Lawler.
- 32:56Enough with you.
- 32:58The Argo spies.
- 33:00Argo spies, maybe you're right.
- 33:03Hmm.
- 33:05So there was there wasn't there wasn't a lot of names that I was surprised uh actually there was a fair amount.
- 33:11As I had suggested there was going to be guys that were you know, pretty big names that get cut and there always are.
- 33:16I mean I think Dylan Wynn's pro MJ is probably your biggest, but again, he's thirty two going on, thirty three years old.
- 33:22As a defensive lineman, that is sort of the end of your shelf line.
- 33:24He's gone through what, three teams in the last three years, I think.
- 33:28So
- 33:29that's also shows you something and they just moved on.
- 33:33they just, you know, it's I'm not that surprised by him.
- 33:36I was a little bit will I think he get another job?
- 33:39Yeah, he might get another shot, especially as an injury guy.
- 33:42Um, midway through the season, you might see him get another job.
- 33:45A lot of these guys also get re signed, as I think is also on the rundown that they get signed immediately to other teams.
- 33:51Guys like Blackburn from Toronto got re signed immediately into Eb I think it's a he's gone to Edmonton.
- 33:57Um the one that surprised me out of the Argos the most was um was Casey.
- 34:02He really looked good last year when he was in and I I'm surprised that it's been two or three days and he's not re-signed somewhere else.
- 34:10So either he's taking his time or he's just you know to decide where he wants to play or maybe if he wants to play.
- 34:18but that one was probably not the fact that he got cut, that surprised me, but the fact that he hasn't re signed somewhere, that's also surprised me.
- 34:26Um
- 34:27news.
- 34:28Breaking news, he's re signed.
- 34:30Go ahead.
- 34:31I'll tell you about it in a minute.
- 34:32Okay.
- 34:33and the the one the another one that was um prior to the cuts that surprised me as much as anything was in Calgary where they released just like minutes, literally minutes before,
- 34:45apparently before the uh the announcement of the um
- 34:48starting lineup for last week's preseason game.
- 34:50They they cut the defensive back that they've signed as a free agent out of Edmonton And then he's already re-signed in Hamilton.
- 34:58So I was surprised at that because I was quite high on him coming into coming in because he has such an outstanding rookie year.
- 35:04but then he was you know had a bad injury and was was injured all of last year.
- 35:09So maybe it came down to some something like an injury and the stamps just didn't think he was going to be able to go.
- 35:16Or they said, you know, we're not comfortable, will you move to the practice roster?
- 35:20And he just said no.
- 35:21so they cut him early.
- 35:23So that one was a little to me was was surprising.
- 35:27and yeah, there's a few other guys that I'm sure will show up on other teams roster because there is a always a bit of churn after uh training camps.
- 35:35And Deonte Ruffin was, I think, probably just a an age thing again, getting to the end of his career.
- 35:41Anything else from either of the MJs?
- 35:43Anybody surprised you?
- 35:45Well, Mazzoli and McLeod Bethel Thompson remain free agents.
- 35:51So shocking.
- 35:52Just in case you were wondering.
- 35:54Who do you think will sign first?
- 35:56We should have a like a speaking of gambling, we should have a
- 36:00camping.
- 36:00What's the over under what's the w what's the over under on or yeah, or or what are the odds of the the the Thompson signs perform Mazoli Well I gotta tell ya but the the one
- 36:16that surprised me based on previous stuff, so who knows where his level of play is at, but
- 36:20I was quite happy for Winnipeg when um when they picked up DeAndre Lamont uh out of Ottawa.
- 36:27I thought that two yeah, two years back, him and Webb on the boundary side in Ottawa, I thought were the best combination in the league.
- 36:36And then Webb went off to Saskatchewan and Lamont seemed to play okay, but mm w what I saw of him playing in the preseason, he seemed to be doing okay, but he's gone, so who knows?
- 36:46Now you like you said, GT, that yeah.
- 36:49Devodrick Bynum signed with uh re-signed with or signed again with Hamilton.
- 36:54So I had him Edmonton's Calgary Hamilton as his trajectory.
- 36:59Kendall Randolph with Winnipeg Cut is with Toronto and Ottawa has signed three people.
- 37:04They th signed Casey out Toronto, they signed Benjamin Victor out of Edmonton, who I should have probably had on my list of notable cuts, but he only played four or five games
- 37:14at the end of last season.
- 37:15And they also signed a global defensive lineman.
- 37:19Kamari
- 37:20It's got probably a French thing spelling on this or something.
- 37:23Anyway, Kamari Meunier Bailey, perhaps.
- 37:25Am I close on that?
- 37:26I don't know.
- 37:27He's uh didn't play much last year, but he was in the global draft last year and they picked him up from Winnipeg.
- 37:35And that otherwise, yeah, we're just looking to see where the dust settles.
- 37:38I'm gonna jump this one one ahead on the rundown so nobody gets too confused.
- 37:42I'm sh I imagine you heard even in Europe.
- 37:45I I think I sent a text saying, Are you even coming back if being in Europe gives the stamps this kind of luck?
- 37:51Because they re-signed Hutchings and then announced this week that him and Arimilade are both cleared to play.
- 37:59Which seemed early.
- 38:00did Reggie get cleared to play?
- 38:02Because I haven't seen that.
- 38:05Okay, yeah.
- 38:06Last I saw he was
- 38:07did not participate.
- 38:08So yeah.
- 38:09they cleared him he's on the active roster now.
- 38:11Okay, yeah, because I did not see that either because the last interview I saw was after I think Monday's practices and di and Dickinson said Reggie wasn't quite ready yet.
- 38:21So that's good news as well.
- 38:23They'll probably ease him in a little bit more, but I imagine Hutchings Flo Orimolade are gonna be ready to go.
- 38:30Um I'm not surprised by Flo Orimolade because the he you know the interview was a couple months ago with with uh their own
- 38:38in house guys um and and they interviewed him and he said he would probably be ready for for the start of the season.
- 38:44so that's great news obviously and then Hutchins coming back disappointed for him on one hand but happy to have him back again and super happy that he signed a three year deal as
- 38:54well when he did manage to come back.
- 38:56so that's terrific.
- 38:58And I think yeah that that line
- 39:00Now looks like the line that they had in the first half of last year rather than the second half of last year when that defense was pretty darn awesome.
- 39:08So they've got all almost all of the pieces back.
- 39:12um I think the stamps are looking pretty good at this stage of the game.
- 39:15They're they're looking almost like a not a lot of turnover, a couple of small pieces, unlike they needed last year.
- 39:22And I think, yeah, it's gonna be a good start for them.
- 39:25So that's great news.
- 39:26cup year.
- 39:27Like you're building f to win at home, right?
- 39:30And I think that's exciting to come back and sign 'cause especially when you already know like Hutchings coming back, he knows that system, he knows that team.
- 39:40And especially like yeah, cup run year, like
- 39:43That's an exciting time to get into like back at the team.
- 39:47I've been noticing like I'm at the McMahon Stadium for some of the Calgary Wild games and they've been sprucing things up for the start of the season, so starting to get exciting
- 39:57for for Calgary.
- 39:59Like that's excellent news for them.
- 40:01Yeah, I was surprised when you said that about Bagleton 'cause I did look at today's injury reports.
- 40:06He was still listed as did not participate with a knee.
- 40:09They list Hutchings on there with his hamstring as limited and Orimalade was full.
- 40:16Yeah.
- 40:17is active and not on the injured list.
- 40:19That's well that's good news to see.
- 40:21Yeah.
- 40:21So but whether he's ready to play this week may or may not.
- 40:25I don't know.
- 40:26Cause like I said, it I'm just going by what they said there.
- 40:29So still Yeah.
- 40:33D doesn't M Yeah, exactly.
- 40:36He'll be there or not.
- 40:37that's what Dickinson said is that Reggie's not he's not coming along as fast as uh as they thought he might be.
- 40:44And he's uh and if he's able to play he will because Dickinson's and if anybody's able to play, I play them.
- 40:51But if he's but if he's not he won't play.
- 40:53So I don't I honestly don't expect him to to be on the on the active roster this week.
- 40:59He's on the roster, but I don't think he'll be on the active roster this week.
- 41:02He'll be
- 41:04I hope this doesn't turn into like an Adam Bighill kind of situation where you think you're back but you're not back and when you're back you're not the same.
- 41:14Um 'cause how long was he out last season?
- 41:20Yeah.
- 41:21Maybe a little more.
- 41:22Yeah, hopefully he'll be ready.
- 41:24Yeah.
- 41:25think it was the first or second game when he went down.
- 41:27So yeah.
- 41:29Yeah.
- 41:30So yeah.
- 41:32he's able to come back and perform as he wants to, but 'cause he's getting up there.
- 41:40Yeah.
- 41:40definitely or has the potential to help unless he's really lost a lot from the injury.
- 41:45I would not expect that.
- 41:46I think he'll do just fine.
- 41:48And regardless of that, I think you have to say the the stamps prospects, especially for those first two, three, four games of the season, look a lot better now than they did a
- 41:57week ago.
- 41:58Because we were yeah.
- 42:01We were expecting no Hutchings and a Orimalade back.
- 42:04Yeah.
- 42:04why we picked them to win Great Cup.
- 42:06We knew.
- 42:06Yeah.
- 42:08There we go.
- 42:08Alrighty, so that's the good news for the Calgary folks.
- 42:17Hey, that's where we are.
- 42:18We're choices don't sit well, but
- 42:23Okay.
- 42:25I also wanted to mention CFL expansion, 'cause interestingly enough, it all became could be something exciting when they came out that there was a group looking at building a
- 42:35whole entertainment district and stadium and everything in Halifax.
- 42:39And then the president of the Laval Rouge Orge or said that they would be welcome they would welcome CFL into
- 42:48Quebec City, if there was a new stadium.
- 42:50And then about three days later, cold water got splashed on that when somebody came forward and said, this group that's building in Halifax, the fellow who owns the land has
- 43:00pulled out and is now saying he's using it for something different.
- 43:03So I don't Yeah, so so I don't think that that that's gonna happen quick.
- 43:10However, out of Quebec City today reporting, and I don't know the Quebec City media landscape, so I'm not sure
- 43:17Quite who this is.
- 43:18I think he's one of he's a radio personality there.
- 43:20Uh Sylvain Bouchard did a feature.
- 43:24I think it was about a 15 minute feature on this saying that there have been a group of businessmen in Quebec City that have been working for over a year on putting together a
- 43:33plan for a CFL team.
- 43:36They're extremely excited about it.
- 43:38They think they can get it done.
- 43:39They're looking at putting a 25,000 seat stadium in on the grounds of the Colisee.
- 43:46Now that I'm think is probably a sporting venue in Montreal.
- 43:49Does anybody know?
- 43:49Am I pi pronouncing that wrong?
- 43:52Colisea I believe is the old hockey arena where the old Nordique used to play out back in the day.
- 43:58then they built that shiny news uh arena, which I don't know what it's called.
- 44:03that I think actually Carl Perado that owns the Alouettes now, I think he built hoping to get the Nordique back into the NHL.
- 44:12Um and I think maybe the ramparts in the Q still play out of there.
- 44:17And so maybe they're using it, the the land that was available for where the old Colisea used to be, Now that's that's just off the top of whatever little bit of head I have left.
- 44:27So
- 44:28that makes sense to me.
- 44:29It's more than I know about it.
- 44:30The other thing is despite what they said last week with the president of Laval football, said they'd need their own stadium, that the PEPS facility would not work for CFL
- 44:39football.
- 44:40what this fellow is saying now is that that is definitely true.
- 44:44They're building a new stadium.
- 44:45But that Laval is open to them playing out of PEPS for a year or two as the stadium gets built to establish a franchise.
- 44:53So who knows, maybe
- 44:54Show me the money.
- 44:57Because it's three to four hundred million minimum in a scale down stadium, five to six in today's world as costs have gone up since any of the newly recent ones have been built.
- 45:08So to get something that's
- 45:09reasonable you're looking at half a billion to more and who's gonna pay for it?
- 45:14That's what it comes down to for expansion of this league in every city they want to go down.
- 45:19Without a stadium, there's no expansion.
- 45:22And without money, there's no stadium.
- 45:24And without a reason for government to spend money, there's nobody that's gonna build a stadium because there in this country no one will spend their own money to build a stadium
- 45:33for ten dates a year.
- 45:35So unless you're going to bring in a bunch of other things and you're able to do that and the city will relax your bylaws enough that you can have concerts and et cetera, et
- 45:44cetera, that you can use the stadium for more than 10 dates a year, it's not financially feasible to build it.
- 45:50Every time one of these stories come out, the first thing you need to ask is who's paying for a stadium?
- 45:56And if there's no stadium and if there's nobody paying for it, and these fly by night things in Halifax, like the one that was announced last week, is exactly the same
- 46:05proposal, just on a piece of a different piece of land than the last proposal in Halifax was.
- 46:10And they all want to say, just like Ottawa.
- 46:13Well, Ottawa wanted desperately and was willing to do it.
- 46:16And the guys that that um
- 46:19got the red blacks back in the league.
- 46:21They also threw a lot of their own money in.
- 46:23So if you don't have your own money and if you're not willing to spend it, again, pfft it's pie in the sky.
- 46:29And all these stories can jump out and everything else.
- 46:32But show me the real money, not the storied money, not some guy from Saskatoon that wants to build a stadium in Halifax like that last proposal was.
- 46:43No, let's get real
- 46:45investors with real dough with real commitment and make and continue on the progress that we've had in having new owners recently that are deep pocketed and have the sense and the
- 46:57money to be able to back themselves up for the long term.
- 47:00Because otherwise we're just back into the cycle of rinse, wash and repeat of guys buying teams and then three years later bailing on them.
- 47:08And I don't want to see that for this in this league at all anymore.
- 47:11I'd rather stay at nine teams than have that.
- 47:14on a tenth or eleventh or twelfth team.
- 47:16And then you're just back into the same cycle of just running around trying to get somebody else to pick up the pieces.
- 47:22So yeah, that's my that's my story on expansion.
- 47:27What they need to do in Halifax is partner with the Halifax Wanderers, the soccer team.
- 47:33and the tides.
- 47:34yeah, yeah, they they you know, again, read what ha what the wanderers want.
- 47:39They want their own.
- 47:40They're soccer guys.
- 47:42Soccer never wants to partner with anyone.
- 47:45They're the best in the world.
- 47:46It's the grand old game.
- 47:48It's whatever they call it.
- 47:50They are the most insulated and insecure
- 47:54uh and inward looking people there are because they just think they're they are the best game in the world and that's all there is to it.
- 48:01And they want what they want and they want nothing less and nothing to share.
- 48:06And the wanderers do not want to share a stadium.
- 48:09They want their own private little pitch for their own little club that they can all go out and jump up and down for an hour and a half every week and make a lot of noise and
- 48:18that's what they do.
- 48:19So
- 48:20Yeah, sorry, again, I'm off on a tangent, but it's just, you know, when they hear these stories about sharing, no, no, no.
- 48:27They don't want to share.
- 48:29They do not want to share.
- 48:31are teams that do.
- 48:32The Forge share with the Ticats.
- 48:34And that's a really great part of it.
- 48:37because the Ty Cats were there first and they had no choice for the Forge to get into the league if they wanted to go into Hamilton, they had to share.
- 48:46If they can get do a way where they don't have to share, that's what they want to do.
- 48:52If somebody in Hamilton if somebody in Hamilton, if somebody in Hamilton, if somebody in Hamilton had said that they wanted to buy or they were willing to build their own stadium
- 49:04ten thousand or fifteen thousand or whatever they wanted for soccer alone, the forge would run to it with their arms up in the air saying thank you very much.
- 49:13They don't want soccer does not want to share.
- 49:17They just don't.
- 49:19think
- 49:19where are all the women's soccer teams playing?
- 49:22well they renamed it McWoman Stadium.
- 49:26So they play out a McMahon.
- 49:27they again, guys, you're arguing my point.
- 49:30They had no choice again in Calgary because there was no place else for them to stay.
- 49:38They all they play be where they have to because they have to share the stadium.
- 49:43If they are allowed to build their own stadium, they won't share.
- 49:48If they and the wanderers field, they own it.
- 49:52The wanderers field, they're not giving up that.
- 49:55It's go back to BMO.
- 49:57Why, how and how BMO happened.
- 49:59all that because Laval won't share with them either.
- 50:01So maybe CFL are just a bad partner to partner business with.
- 50:05Maybe no one wants to b do business with CFL football.
- 50:08Because Laval, the Rouget R are like no, and then I don't think you're gonna get a CF a Quebec City team in without support of the Rouget or fans.
- 50:17You're you're not.
- 50:19the dinos, like the Calgary U Sports, they're looking at building their own field and that's a real problem for the stamps as well, because if you don't have that university
- 50:30income, what does that do as well?
- 50:32So
- 50:32Stamps wanna build um their field at the chuck wagon races.
- 50:37Like around them during the game, it'll be kind of fun.
- 50:42It'll replace their horse who does whatever the stuff.
- 50:46uh everybody, whether you're university, soccer, football, whatever, you want your own stadium, and usually it's a pie in the sky, but there's too stuff to what GT says.
- 50:55I mean, look at the white caps whining about they're gonna leave if they don't get a their own stadium out of in Vancouver.
- 51:01Well MLS is still soccer.
- 51:06No.
- 51:06white caps for that because they
- 51:08it's ex it's extortion.
- 51:10That's what it is.
- 51:11It's city it's sports extortion, which is what sports has been living off of for thousands of years and will continue to live off of because fans like us all freak out that our
- 51:22team's about to leave and then the city or the government or somebody hands up these sports team that are owned by rich people already a whole wack of dough to build a stadium
- 51:32again.
- 51:32It's extortion based on the same principle that's been going on forever.
- 51:37And it will never change.
- 51:38The only people that have it right are the teams that are big enough, that make enough money, that can build their own stadiums and deep pocket owners that are willing to do it
- 51:47because they know it works.
- 51:49On these middling level sports leagues, they cannot and in Canada especially because of the psychology of this country, there's not a chance somebody's gonna invest in their own
- 52:00building
- 52:01unless they're getting something back and you know and
- 52:04who don't share their building are the like raptors and the blue jays.
- 52:09Everyone else is sharing stadiums and arenas with a multiple with do they share okay, so the only people are the the blue jays.
- 52:19That's it.
- 52:19Everyone else is piggybacking and sharing and divvying up.
- 52:24So, I mean that's just the way it's gonna go.
- 52:26It's just the way it's gonna have to be like when the Ticats like they were threatening to move the Ty Cats, we just started calling them the Quebec City Tig Tigra shots because
- 52:34we're like, fine.
- 52:35Fine.
- 52:37But then they ended up building where they were, but I mean I mean this the government of Alberta just paid for the Flames new hockey arena.
- 52:44I I'm wait I'm waiting for my season seats for that since I am a taxpayer but
- 52:49Yes.
- 52:51Well
- 52:52that's what I say.
- 52:53It doesn't happen.
- 52:54we could apply maybe Stuart Johnson can apply to the Sovereign Sovereign Wealth Fund and the federal government can build them for us.
- 53:01Just create a public company and run the s the football through it.
- 53:05Yeah, you can go in like Randy did.
- 53:07We don't really have a plan, but we'd like a few million dollars, please.
- 53:11Any anyway.
- 53:12is a great spot for a thirty thousand Steve.
- 53:16Like it'll be fine, it'll be fine.
- 53:19I I I'm calling time on this one before we somebody starts swinging here.
- 53:24It's it is an a a a passionate topic.
- 53:27Who knows where it'll go?
- 53:29I will say this the the article or the what I saw out of Quebec City today was not pumping up and saying, we're gonna get a team right away.
- 53:37They were saying that there's a lot going on that people don't know about it, that it's been in the plans for about a year, that they have several local wealthy business people
- 53:48in
- 53:49engaged and talking about it, that they have a spot for the stadium.
- 53:53they know their they say the budget for the stadium's gonna be four hundred and twenty-five million, which is in within the reasonable range of it there.
- 54:00Two weeks ago the president of the uh Laval University team s changed from saying we don't want CFL here to we'd welcome them as long as they have a stadium.
- 54:10And this is saying apparently now Laval is open to talking about at least a short-term share.
- 54:15So
- 54:17I feel more positive about Quebec Dit City than I have about Halifax in a long time.
- 54:21I'm not expecting it.
- 54:23and that may be why all of a sudden the shift went from la about this time last year from Halifax to Quebec City publicly by the league and by a lot of other people, that maybe,
- 54:34you know, Quebec City's a n the better option and there was and and that might be why, because that that was stuff going on there that we weren't aware of it.
- 54:43Yes.
- 54:44So
- 54:44there's a first someone throws a pass in the new stadium with a new team, then I'll get excited about it.
- 54:52Yes, exactly.
- 54:53With Jared Deggy as quarterback, 'cause that's what three down did three down built a team out of the cuts and and he was their quarterback.
- 55:00Anyway, going on again.
- 55:01I'm stuffing one more thing in here that I didn't necessarily have on on what I sent out to you guys.
- 55:06I'm not sure if I mentioned this during the the signings and that.
- 55:10news came out City Sau, who was a uh Regina drafter
- 55:15I I forget where they draft him anyway, two two years ago, has been down in the NFL ever since.
- 55:20The Houston waived him.
- 55:22Now I'm pretty sure that given the state of the how they're looking for linemen all over down there and the fact that he did start for half the first year with New England, he'll
- 55:33probably get some other NFL shots.
- 55:35But I also saw that and I thought, yeah, there's a bunch of Ryder fans whose eyes are lighting up because he's down there.
- 55:42Now they're saying, okay, send them back and just bring Kyle Hurgal We like the idea of Peyton Collins, Sidy Sow Logan Ferland, Kyle Hurgle and uh Jamarcus Hardrick.
- 55:51We'll take that as a line to start.
- 55:53Pipe dreams in the prairies.
- 55:55And from there, MJ, you had said you wanted to talk a little bit about the fact we're back to Pride Month.
- 56:01Yeah, happy pride everyone.
- 56:03I just wanted to give a special shout out to four teams who like stepped up and posted about pride.
- 56:12So shout out the Redblocks, the Lions, the Ticats and the Bombers.
- 56:16You guys are the best.
- 56:17Good stuff.
- 56:19Let's get everybody else joining in.
- 56:20Okay.
- 56:23And then I'm on I'm throwing in another question that isn't on here for you guys because I was thinking about this as I was going through the games.
- 56:30um when they were doing the Ottawa-Montreal game, they kept saying, Well, you know, it's a surprise that Maier's is a starter, but if you look at the two of them together, they
- 56:38probably have the best quarterback tandem, starter and backup in the league right now.
- 56:42And I thought, no.
- 56:43Hot a chance.
- 56:45No who w this was this this was during the this
- 56:50t it was on TSN.
- 56:53It was on TSN and it was on Friday night, and there was a new broadcaster getting his first taste of it.
- 57:01Other than that, I'll I'll let you try and figure out who that might be.
- 57:05Someone previewing Friday nights on TSN.
- 57:09I don't want to say a name because we don't want him mad at us again.
- 57:14Yes, Mr.
- 57:14Wilson, Luke Wilson.
- 57:16Him and and um and LaPolice were both on Doing Color, and they were both saying this a bit.
- 57:20But that raised the question and and it got me thinking about it a bit, and it's been a bit of a hard one for me to answer.
- 57:26So let's just go around.
- 57:28We'll start with you, MJ.
- 57:29Who do you figure the best to what team is best set up with the combination of backup of starter and backup?
- 57:37Aloettes.
- 57:38With Crum and uh with Alexander and Crumb?
- 57:40Yeah.
- 57:41MJ two.
- 57:42I really like the I really like Hamilton with Bo Levi and um Trey Ford.
- 57:49Like I G G G's just gonna laugh.
- 57:53But I I don't know.
- 57:54I get so excited.
- 57:56I I believe in the hope.
- 57:58I believe in the story.
- 58:00Yes.
- 58:02Cause I feel like yeah.
- 58:06No.
- 58:07No.
- 58:08Reality check.
- 58:10The best quarterback room in the league, whether you want to say it or not, is absolutely in Toronto 100%.
- 58:19Nobody else comes even close.
- 58:22I'm sorry.
- 58:23You've got the last two MVPs of the Great Cup.
- 58:29You've got a quarterback that could have been
- 58:31um the MVP of the league last year and and was in the running until he got injured.
- 58:36late in the season and he's the backup this year because you're bringing back a guy who set the league on fire the year before and went sixteen and two and was an MVP in the gray
- 58:48cup.
- 58:49And when in in the half game that he did get to play in the playoffs before he went down was on fire again.
- 58:55So I I I don't know
- 58:58Like everybody else is like one injury away from going to a second team guy that may or may not be good.
- 59:06and nobody has the depth that Toronto has.
- 59:08No one has the depth that Toronto has.
- 59:10So absolutely not a chance.
- 59:12Toronto's by far the best quarterback room in the league.
- 59:18So so we're gonna end up picking four teams for the four of us.
- 59:21I like this.
- 59:22Cause while I agree with it's part of what you say, GT, there's also the fact Kelly hasn't played for a year.
- 59:28He's coming off an injury.
- 59:29Will he be I I'm not ready to anoint him the best.
- 59:32And our buckle, I think, is we'll see if we get the same R buckle under Coach Miller that we got under Dinwiddie, because Dinwiddie seemed to be the R Buckle whisperer.
- 59:40So I was thinking about it and I and I didn't like Toronto.
- 59:44I
- 59:44Until this weekend, this weekend actually changed my mind a bit.
- 59:47I thought, you know, as strange as it sounds to say, the best combination I was leaning towards Cody Fidgiardo and Taylor Powell.
- 59:56But then Powell looked so bad on this weekend, and Chase Bryce has looked so good in the two preseason games that maybe that's it.
- 1:00:06Because they've got the best quarterback in the league.
- 1:00:09So if Bryce has made the step, you know, Nathan and and him, they could be it.
- 1:00:14That's who that's who I'd give my best shot to right now.
- 1:00:16Time will tell.
- 1:00:17Fortunately we can always burn the tape if any of us embarrassed ourselves too much.
- 1:00:21No, we can't.
- 1:00:22It's on YouTube and it'll be there forever.
- 1:00:24hopeful hopefully time won't tell because that means one of the main quarterbacks is going down.
- 1:00:30the best the best situation is we never get to see backup quarterbacks, right?
- 1:00:34Uh unless we're unless we're into the games that don't matter late in the year.
- 1:00:38so in reality, hopefully this is all kind of redundant.
- 1:00:42So
- 1:00:42Academic.
- 1:00:43I like that idea.
- 1:00:44Yes.
- 1:00:45Moot point.
- 1:00:46Okay.
- 1:00:46T S I was just watching T S N before I jumped on the podcast and they had Milt Stiegel on talking about what does Winnipeg do to protect
- 1:00:57Colaros this year.
- 1:00:58Like they were talking about his age, the number of concussions, and then they started um talking about all the things they've done to try and like support them.
- 1:01:07So we're gonna they're probably gonna r run more.
- 1:01:10Like Olievera gonna ask for the ball.
- 1:01:12I'm like, Yeah, but he did last year.
- 1:01:13Um they brought in some new old linemen and so all I could think about was when you asked that question was well it's not Winnipeg
- 1:01:23Yeah.
- 1:01:24no no, it Elgersma could be great in the future.
- 1:01:28He needs a lot of seasoning and yeah, despite what Mr.
- 1:01:31O'Shea says, what Coach O'Shea says, nobody else I believe thinks Zach Colaris is the best quarterback in the league.
- 1:01:37Yeah.
- 1:01:38I mean the the the best solution would be to wrap him up in bubble wrap like the Michelin man, but it's hard to throw with that, so
- 1:01:44I think he needs like a harness and then they can just lift him up and then he just avoids all the tackles.
- 1:01:51I think that would be their best plan.
- 1:01:54Maybe he'll get like a special rule.
- 1:01:57Like Zack has flags now.
- 1:01:58You have to flag Zach.
- 1:02:00You're not allowed to
- 1:02:01that rule for about three years now.
- 1:02:03Breathe on Zach and you get a flag.
- 1:02:07Okay.
- 1:02:09Moving along, I'm gonna I'm gonna throw another question at you folks.
- 1:02:13Put you on the hot seat because we are going into the regular season and we did this as a group last two weeks ago, I think, looking at when we filled out our predictor.
- 1:02:23But for from each of you now, I'm gonna ask for your who do you think comes out of each division?
- 1:02:28in the Grey Cup.
- 1:02:29So who are the two Grey Cup teams and who wins it?
- 1:02:32And let's start with J two, 'cause you're the the semi guest here.
- 1:02:37You're the
- 1:02:37Well, like for me it's really easy to pick from the West.
- 1:02:41Like I honestly think that Calgary is I don't know, there's something about hosting the Great Cup.
- 1:02:46There's something about yeah, bringing back some of these key players and
- 1:02:51hope that VA has like a great year so we all know when VA can play.
- 1:02:55Uh they're unstoppable.
- 1:02:57I'm putting my money or I'm yeah, I'm gonna say Calgary for the West.
- 1:03:02And then when it comes to the East, I always want it to be the Ti Cats.
- 1:03:06but I don't know this year.
- 1:03:08I don't know.
- 1:03:08I've I I'll just say the Ty Cats because I don't want to say the Argos.
- 1:03:13And who wins it?
- 1:03:14Calgary.
- 1:03:14I I honestly think that Calgary could win this year and that'd be so fun to win it at home.
- 1:03:20Okay, how about you, G T?
- 1:03:21Um
- 1:03:22Well, like I said, I think I was kind of talked into t taking Calgary when we were together last time, although I had originally picked B C.
- 1:03:29So I'm still gonna go with B C because I think B C they win the West.
- 1:03:33They win uh they get home field advantage.
- 1:03:36And I think that's the big difference for them going into the West final.
- 1:03:40that game i it makes a a big difference that then they don't wanna have to play on the road.
- 1:03:45So I'm gonna take B C and then get them uh
- 1:03:49up against I still I still gonna take Montreal.
- 1:03:53I'm feeling less confident than I did earlier about Montreal, but I'm still gonna take Montreal.
- 1:03:58and then I will take BC over Montreal.
- 1:04:00Hey.
- 1:04:01And MJ.
- 1:04:03I think it's gonna be Calgary and Hamilton and Calgary's in a win because Hamilton does not win at McMahon.
- 1:04:09True.
- 1:04:10probably appear to be a homer, of course, because I'm gonna pick Saskatchewan out of the West.
- 1:04:17I I know everybody's head over heels on top of BC, but I still see some flaws there.
- 1:04:24And the thing is, while Saskatchewan lost players, their system, their culture, I think, will carry them through.
- 1:04:30Could be wrong, so I'm picking them.
- 1:04:32And Montreal.
- 1:04:33I think Montreal w is is same sort of thing.
- 1:04:35He's still just there further ahead than Hamilton is at this point, and they've got the experience behind them.
- 1:04:41I think it'll be a great game.
- 1:04:42And I have no idea, but because I'm a homer, I'll say Saskatchewan to repeat.
- 1:04:48So there you go, folks.
- 1:04:49You can throw your bricks at us on that.
- 1:04:51Tell us where we're wrong.
- 1:04:52The uh other bits of news before we get to sort of the games and that.
- 1:04:56The the CFL app.
- 1:04:58And the brand new site.
- 1:05:00Big news.
- 1:05:01It's gonna be here in September.
- 1:05:04I was just about to look it up.
- 1:05:05I'm like, oh I didn't no, never mind.
- 1:05:07Put the phone down.
- 1:05:08No, no.
- 1:05:10False alarm.
- 1:05:12They announced today.
- 1:05:13They said it would be ready before the start of the season.
- 1:05:16They didn't say which season.
- 1:05:18Season doesn't start till Labor Day!
- 1:05:20Yeah.
- 1:05:21Yeah.
- 1:05:22I love it.
- 1:05:24Oh fa thank you, MJ.
- 1:05:26Okay, sorry, I'm under control.
- 1:05:28Go ahead.
- 1:05:29and the the CFL fantasy had a complete meltdown on Sunday night and most I s I'd say eighty percent of people weren't able to do their CFL drafts because it just completely
- 1:05:38crashed.
- 1:05:39So good job CFL.
- 1:05:40Yep.
- 1:05:41the new fantasy game is here, but as you said, apparently it just did not far too much traffic and they weren't ready for it.
- 1:05:49as far
- 1:05:49sorry they built it because they thought that they wouldn't have as many fans.
- 1:05:54Yeah.
- 1:05:54don't know I don't know.
- 1:05:56But
- 1:05:57on our weekly Pick'em, it works on my laptop, but not on my phone.
- 1:06:01Who's using a laptop?
- 1:06:03Walk onto my laptop?
- 1:06:05I was so mad.
- 1:06:06I was so mad.
- 1:06:07that'll take take ninety percent out of the people play and pick I don't know.
- 1:06:12frustrated.
- 1:06:13I had to wait all day to join that fantasy league.
- 1:06:16It was so
- 1:06:16Yeah.
- 1:06:17So yes.
- 1:06:19Hey, and and that's the other thing.
- 1:06:21The other big news is we are back with the CFL podcast network fantasy league and it's not just me representing this year, MJ is as well.
- 1:06:30Yay.
- 1:06:32You wanna tell the folks how you explained to me you're gonna do your picking?
- 1:06:36It's gonna be based on Vibes, Tarot, and my kids Montreal Alouette pics.
- 1:06:40Ready to run the table.
- 1:06:42So I so so I I expect you to to clean up the league.
- 1:06:46It should you should do well.
- 1:06:48Anyway, yeah, so we'll be reporting on that.
- 1:06:50I'll drop on start dropping on Thursdays again.
- 1:06:53Old man plays CFL fantasy.
- 1:06:54We're not doing the new fancy one where it's you have the waiver wire and all the rest of that, because you can only have six people in a team and the league's too big for that.
- 1:07:02So we're back to the the weekly fantasy league each week two.
- 1:07:06People will go head to head.
- 1:07:07You win, you it helps you, your total points helps you, all that.
- 1:07:11So Thursday, probably only an hour or two before game time, because I'm looking for as many of the depth charts as I can.
- 1:07:18I'll put out what I'm doing this week and why.
- 1:07:20And if you want to listen and do the opposite, go ahead.
- 1:07:23Yeah, anything else anybody has to say about fantasy before we jump on?
- 1:07:27No, okay, here we go.
- 1:07:28I again I'm all over the place.
- 1:07:30I I don't know why I bother sending you guys a rundown because I'm changing it all over the place.
- 1:07:33I had the injury reports next, but I thought let's talk about them before we do our game predictions.
- 1:07:38So they're fresh in our head, if that changes anything.
- 1:07:41So let's just jump ahead to
- 1:07:44The covering of what happened with the games on this week.
- 1:07:50And there wasn't uh a whole lot to talk about.
- 1:07:53I think probably I'm the only one that that saw them all.
- 1:07:57is that true for everybody?
- 1:07:59It was bits and pieces where you could.
- 1:08:00I don't blame your pre season.
- 1:08:03Yes.
- 1:08:04But I but because you can on the app you can or on the the G T C F L Plus you you could Yeah.
- 1:08:12Yes.
- 1:08:12Well I I started it.
- 1:08:14Four o'clock's when the game started, and I intended to go till four in the morning and just watch them all.
- 1:08:18But by about one, I was dead tired.
- 1:08:20So I left I left the last one Calgary and Edmonton for Saturday morning.
- 1:08:25Not a not a lot to see there.
- 1:08:27two started at four uh in the east.
- 1:08:30One one Hamilton twenty over Toronto fourteen.
- 1:08:34Anybody see any of that?
- 1:08:35Anything to talk about?
- 1:08:37Ford Cinema!
- 1:08:38It's like Every Instagram post!
- 1:08:41Every Instagram post from the CFL!
- 1:08:43Trey Ford dazzles!
- 1:08:47That's all I heard about from that game.
- 1:08:49Yeah, he looked better.
- 1:08:51And including there was a vintage Trey Ford moment where he got flushed out of the pocket, scrambled right to to the sidelines, somehow put on the brake short of the sidelines,
- 1:09:03looped back around the other side and threw a touchdown pass into the end zone.
- 1:09:08So it's the stuff he can do.
- 1:09:10my greatest joy was that play against the Argos with him in a Ty Cat uniform.
- 1:09:16It was just could anything better have happened on Friday night for me personally?
- 1:09:21No.
- 1:09:21That was amazing.
- 1:09:22all I needed today.
- 1:09:24Yes.
- 1:09:24And it the thing is that and that big scramble was great, but that was Ford magic that we've seen forever.
- 1:09:29He also looked good through the rest of the time he was in there.
- 1:09:33it was a heavy wind.
- 1:09:34He was throwing passes accurately into the wind.
- 1:09:37He was making the right reads.
- 1:09:39He wasn't scrambling too early from what I saw.
- 1:09:42So, all in all, an encouraging performance from him.
- 1:09:45I also enjoyed the announcers talking about the wind and the trying to like call the punts and the kick the That was fun.
- 1:09:56Love the radio guys.
- 1:09:57Yes.
- 1:09:58The radio guys were all
- 1:09:59There was at least three or four times out of the eight games where the radio guys spent a lot of their time freaking out about the weather and the fact they were in temporary
- 1:10:08facilities and that they thought were going to blow over, floods, whatever.
- 1:10:13It sounds like they were working in some rough conditions.
- 1:10:16about the only other thing that I had to note from this game, uh they did announce that the Argo's first home game of the season is August 20th, which is ouch, awfully hard for
- 1:10:24Argo fans.
- 1:10:25but on the upside, apparently they're got a deal where your for forty bucks gets you a ticket and all you can eat selective snacks.
- 1:10:31So that sounds like a good deal, Falcon People.
- 1:10:35Mm-hmm.
- 1:10:36Anybody else anything?
- 1:10:37I don't
- 1:10:38made a big video today about moving their head off of stuff to Guelph and they made a big thing with that box that said Ti Cat Tears and all God, the players up I'm like, if you
- 1:10:48were gonna make a video like this, a very high productive video just like why didn't you play your games in Guelph?
- 1:10:53But anyway, moving on.
- 1:10:56hand, at least they're putting out videos trolling their their rivals.
- 1:10:59And I like that.
- 1:11:00Yeah.
- 1:11:01Yeah.
- 1:11:02Because I mean again I said I wouldn't bitch you but the C FL plus stuff but this pre season, but one thing that became obvious was how good the
- 1:11:10the well the standard of the game, the what kind of cameras they were using it was, but also the commercials, the halftime, how much that was worth sitting through had everything
- 1:11:20to do with the team hosting the game.
- 1:11:23It was obvious because there were some like BC, Saskatchewan, Edmonton did really good job mixing stuff up, a lot of promoting their team and that.
- 1:11:32When the when it was time for the Argos to have their game on it, it was the
- 1:11:36No ta no talking, the pictures of the guys in the little square dancing around or flipping the football in the loud music every break, every time.
- 1:11:45So it doesn't seem like the Argos put a lot of stuff into that.
- 1:11:49So that's why I'm glad to hear they're at least doing some videos like this.
- 1:11:53Yeah.
- 1:11:55Okay.
- 1:11:56Montreal three at Ottawa twenty seven.
- 1:12:02And this was again, it was all Montreal backup, so the score didn't mean much.
- 1:12:06I mentioned
- 1:12:07one where they had like the three th I tried to watch this game.
- 1:12:10I I did try because I was like, Oh, like with my kid, I was like, Yes, let's watch the other skin.
- 1:12:15And I was like, Is that Luke Wilson?
- 1:12:17I was like, right.
- 1:12:18And then I'm like listening and I'm like, that sounds like Rod and I'm like, listening and I'm like, That sounds like Lapo.
- 1:12:25And there's three of them like chitter chattering, and I was like, This is this is I can't.
- 1:12:29It was un watchable for me because of the w three of them, like
- 1:12:33I just I couldn't do it.
- 1:12:35I was like, you know what?
- 1:12:35I'll watch the shaky camera on the Guelph game.
- 1:12:39That's like moving.
- 1:12:40I'm like, I'll deal with that over this.
- 1:12:41Ugh.
- 1:12:44get closer to the real season and you expand the team.
- 1:12:46Like T S N expands their panel.
- 1:12:48We've expanded our panel tonight, you know where Yes.
- 1:13:00Okay.
- 1:13:00Good well I I I th I think that you're good on that.
- 1:13:04I actually the
- 1:13:05What?
- 1:13:05obviously brought Luke in to put the training wheels on before he went live on his own next Friday night.
- 1:13:12If he just sticks to talking football, he's not bad.
- 1:13:15That's the best I can say.
- 1:13:16I'll wait until he's the only one there without having Lapo to to nudge him in the ribs when it's time to shut up.
- 1:13:23Should have like the broadcast like a live game on the side just to practice, but we didn't actually have to hear it.
- 1:13:28But well.
- 1:13:29Hopefully it gets improved.
- 1:13:30They don't need three guys in the booth.
- 1:13:31That's what I know.
- 1:13:33you don't definitely do not and I would not expect that back.
- 1:13:35I think like I said, that was just the training wheels.
- 1:13:38the next game B C thirty at Winnipeg nineteen.
- 1:13:42Anybody see it?
- 1:13:43Any thoughts on it?
- 1:13:44'Cause I don't have much at all again.
- 1:13:46my husband would like to point out that the Winnipeg radio guys were his favorite of the preseason.
- 1:13:51He enjoyed them a lot.
- 1:13:54Doug Brown's an interesting guy.
- 1:13:58Yes.
- 1:13:58Yeah.
- 1:14:01Yeah.
- 1:14:02looking.
- 1:14:02When did Tim White sign?
- 1:14:06Was he plain?
- 1:14:08He's not gonna be playing in preseason.
- 1:14:10last he played in the first preseason game.
- 1:14:13Got three catches for fifty seven yards, if I remember right, and they're building their whole offense around him, we're told.
- 1:14:19This is what I was texting MJ about today and trying really hard not to like I I don't know, how do you not laugh like I was struggling to type it out.
- 1:14:28Anyway, so I was just trying to look.
- 1:14:31Braylon Addison back to coach with him.
- 1:14:33He's been with him for five seasons.
- 1:14:35I was like, let's check in with Redblack and Ticats fans to see how the last five seasons have gone.
- 1:14:41Oh no!
- 1:14:43was trying to look at his stats to be like maybe maybe, you know maybe the air is better in Winnipeg for catching balls.
- 1:14:52I don't know.
- 1:14:53I said it's because it wasn't important.
- 1:14:55Yeah.
- 1:14:56It's it's possible.
- 1:14:58him catching this ball, so ah
- 1:15:02I mean to be o to be honest, the the three catches he made were nice catches.
- 1:15:05He ran good routes.
- 1:15:06They were right there and he didn't drop them, which is you know, for Tim that's 'cause he does drop some that are right there.
- 1:15:13But no, he looked okay.
- 1:15:14I did I did see someone on uh the CFL Reddit today when they saw my post about Addison being added to the coaching staff of a bomber fan saying, Can he still play?
- 1:15:24So I'm not sure they're
- 1:15:26They're convinced of their of their receiving crew there.
- 1:15:29But no, I I didn't have them much on this.
- 1:15:32I said last week in Saskatoon about the nineteen year old very skinny, pale prairie boys f stripping their shirts off to show off.
- 1:15:41Apparently they start them young in the prairies 'cause in Winnipeg they had a bunch of ten year olds there doing the same thing.
- 1:15:48Yes.
- 1:15:49Yes.
- 1:15:50And the
- 1:15:51And the only other thing that I ha said was their third string guy that they have Perkins.
- 1:15:55He was in there, looked good running, but not necessarily didn't look fantastic as a passer to me.
- 1:16:01So mind you, he'll get the game by default because he stuck around.
- 1:16:05So or he'll get the the position by default.
- 1:16:08Anything else?
- 1:16:08No, okay, so Calgary twenty one, Edmonton eighteen.
- 1:16:12And again, like I said, the last game that I saw out of all this, and that's but the only comment I have.
- 1:16:17It was just please let's get on to the preseason.
- 1:16:20My favorite part of this game was that the Radio announcers just talked over the CFL fantasy ads.
- 1:16:27They were just like, no, we're just gonna keep talking.
- 1:16:29This so they just kept their show going over top of all the ads.
- 1:16:33It was so great.
- 1:16:34I was like, ha, take that.
- 1:16:36Like they're just like, hmm.
- 1:16:38And then I felt bad for them because they were doing that whole night at the knot hole thing.
- 1:16:42And we had
- 1:16:44Lightning, like a huge storm blew in and the weather was just awful.
- 1:16:48It was poor it's been pouring rain for four days.
- 1:16:51So I'd felt I felt bad for them during a lightning delay at Clark Stadium, there's like no cover for you.
- 1:16:58Like there's really no concourse for you to be in.
- 1:17:02So I'm not quite sure where they put everyone.
- 1:17:05Anyway, it's just it's just unfortunate.
- 1:17:06I think they probably would have had a lot more people there if it hadn't been the weather.
- 1:17:10So
- 1:17:11it could be.
- 1:17:11It was the hour delay at the start and that pushed the game into the evening and the the lighting looked worse than at a lot of the high schools I've seen football games played.
- 1:17:21That it was
- 1:17:22had a professional game there since the th well they since well and then the the Edmonton FC used to play there but that's like s that was like six years ago.
- 1:17:32we were talking local broadcasters.
- 1:17:34Apparently there's a standard joke if you're a local broadcaster and and somebody's helmet came off, you have to say, I hope his head's not still in there, because I heard that on
- 1:17:43three different games this weekend.
- 1:17:46Yes.
- 1:17:47Rankin again look look good and bad.
- 1:17:50He looked like he, you know, he got zero zero or less yards or big runs.
- 1:17:54Cody did look like he
- 1:17:55c rush and he's gonna t have two thousand yards this year, old man, he told us.
- 1:18:01Yeah, he told us all that's what's happening.
- 1:18:03if if they don't take away the negative yards, yeah, maybe.
- 1:18:07He might Uh, sorry, that was mean.
- 1:18:11That was mean, Justin.
- 1:18:12No, yeah, like I said, it's just uh it it seems to be the style.
- 1:18:15Anyway, what else did I see?
- 1:18:16Cody Sorry, go ahead.
- 1:18:18I was just gonna say, the elks were busy because after I mean this is after the game, but they um they went down to where we've got a lot of family that lives in Wainwright, and
- 1:18:29the whole crew of the elks showed up in Wainwright to help with one of their spring camp nights with the Wainwright commandos.
- 1:18:38So my cousin has all these photos of her kids with with the elks, and I thought that's so cool, like what a garbage.
- 1:18:46weekend to be traveling and I guess um she said Noah Curtis who comes from Florida commented that the ducks on the field for the reason that they were playing inside in the
- 1:18:57arena is the most Canadian thing he's ever experienced.
- 1:19:01yeah, I'll give him that.
- 1:19:02No one wants to play in the rain.
- 1:19:04Yes.
- 1:19:05Well, it's great to see teams getting out and like you said, involved in community like that.
- 1:19:09But and I I did think I did think Cody made some was making decisions fast, which is good to see.
- 1:19:15Other than that, I don't know.
- 1:19:18you could see that Mark Killam is from the Dickinson coaching tree 'cause they both made challenges that had absolutely no hope of of winning with three minutes left under three
- 1:19:27minutes left in the game.
- 1:19:29Just
- 1:19:29about it.
- 1:19:31Perfect.
- 1:19:32And the first time, officially the first time, I have seen the new kneel down rule in effect.
- 1:19:38The game was the flag was whirled at thirteen seconds to go after one kneel down.
- 1:19:44So it's yeah, it just gonna take some getting used to.
- 1:19:49the only thing that the only thing that I thought interesting in the game was that well, a couple of things.
- 1:19:54First of all, I thought Edmonton's number ones looked really good.
- 1:19:57I don't know if they were playing against Calgary's number ones on defense, but their number ones on offense looked very good.
- 1:20:02But beyond that, the only other thing from the Stampeder point of view was that I thought Jacoby Griswold looked pretty good going in late in the fourth quarter.
- 1:20:11um or midway through the fourth quarter.
- 1:20:12I thought and he he had that one run where he was moving really fast for a big man.
- 1:20:18He's two sixty, they said.
- 1:20:19And he was going really fast and made a couple of nice open field moves as well.
- 1:20:24So I was very surprised in the cuts that he didn't make the team even as a um on the on the of reserves or whatever because they cut him outright
- 1:20:34And and they added Woolridge to the um practice roster, which means that Calgary only has two active quarterbacks, which is unusual and they haven't done that for I don't know
- 1:20:46since when.
- 1:20:47They've always had three quarterbacks on the bench.
- 1:20:49so this year they'll at going into the season, they'll only have VA and Josh Love out um and
- 1:20:56technically Quincy Vaughn as a quarterback as well.
- 1:20:59But really he's a tight end.
- 1:21:01So so that's I was pretty surprised at that, that they didn't keep that they didn't keep Woodridge on the regular roster and Griswold on the practice roster.
- 1:21:10Um because I he I thought they they both looked like they deserved spots.
- 1:21:14That was the only that was the only thing that I saw out of the game.
- 1:21:18Yeah.
- 1:21:18Yeah, I would agree maybe with Wildridge, you know, m like you say, maybe don't make Vaughn a quarterback, list him as a tight end.
- 1:21:25He can still do your short yardage but really I would say uh no insult to Tommy Stevens.
- 1:21:31he's a fantastic third down quarterback, short yardage quarterback, the best but that we've seen in a long time.
- 1:21:37But I don't see him as a viable passer and that and he was their third guy for two or three years, so
- 1:21:44I don't see this as all mu that much different for Dickinson's strategy.
- 1:21:48Yeah, no, you're right in that.
- 1:21:49But the I just um because Vaughn is really a tight end.
- 1:21:53He's not a quarterback.
- 1:21:54He's their tight end short yardage guy.
- 1:21:57He's not their quarterback short yardage guy.
- 1:21:59So I thought they could have carried a really a third quarterback on the active roster, uh, especially a young one like Woodridge, and that would have given him
- 1:22:09you know, sideline views of the game and got him a bit more rather than just being on a practice watcher and watching film all the time.
- 1:22:16So I thought that th they they could have done something like that.
- 1:22:18That's all.
- 1:22:19Well it's interesting that Calgary didn't even have to attempt a field goal.
- 1:22:24I I like I didn't watch the game, but I'm looking at the stats and they didn't have any field goal attempts.
- 1:22:29Interesting.
- 1:22:31And I can't rem I don't think they attempted and missed any, but then it wasn't Paradise that was in there.
- 1:22:37So
- 1:22:37that's who I was just looking, so yeah.
- 1:22:40Hm.
- 1:22:42Getting getting down towards the the the end as we've covered a lot here, we even though he's off in Europe, GT's going to do an impromptu power rankings and then he's gonna put
- 1:22:53out a power ranking for you folks every week so you can direct your negative comments to him.
- 1:23:00So so GT, what have we got this week?
- 1:23:04the same as last week.
- 1:23:05Nothing's changed.
- 1:23:06There's no games.
- 1:23:07There's no point in changing anything because nothing's changed.
- 1:23:10So the yeah, so whatever I said last week I will repeat again this week.
- 1:23:15How's that?
- 1:23:16I don't know what they were.
- 1:23:17I honestly don't remember, but nothing's changed.
- 1:23:19So there's that.
- 1:23:20After this after this week I may make some changes, but I remember it being semi remember it being Saskatchewan number one and then Montreal and then I think it was Hamilton, Cal
- 1:23:31Hamilton BC, Calgary, that kind of
- 1:23:33So yeah, something like that.
- 1:23:35And then uh and then going into it uh once the real games begin, then we can really talk.
- 1:23:40Yes.
- 1:23:41I okay, I like that and it gives people an incentive that didn't watch last week to to go back and watch it.
- 1:23:47Now
- 1:23:48Or w or was that two weeks ago?
- 1:23:50I don't know.
- 1:23:50Maybe whatever it was.
- 1:23:51You can go back you could go back you could go back and you could go back and watch every episode we've ever done to try to find it.
- 1:23:57How's that?
- 1:23:58exactly.
- 1:23:58There's there's there's two full seasons on there.
- 1:24:02The first one with just my dull monotone going.
- 1:24:06Anyway, so full disclosure b letting letting you behind the curtain here.
- 1:24:11because GT's in Europe, we haven't been communicating as much and I wasn't certain he'd get the power rankings together.
- 1:24:18Plus, when we talked about the power rankings, I put some out there and and you kind of corrected me and and made a good point that
- 1:24:24Power rankings aren't necessarily about who's gonna win the end of the season.
- 1:24:27It's a snapshot in time, right now, who's where.
- 1:24:31And I thought, okay, well, one way to judge that then is to say who's going to win the games this weekend.
- 1:24:38And those three will obvio the three winners will obviously be towards the top, and the three losers will get get arranged towards the bottom, and then the other three teams not
- 1:24:47playing, I'll just scatter in where they've been.
- 1:24:49So this is my one and only, just in case GT hadn't been available.
- 1:24:53My one and only power rankings and then we'll be it'll all be on him from the here out.
- 1:24:59With great power comes great responsibility.
- 1:25:01Remember that, GT.
- 1:25:03So so so my power rankings based on the Okay.
- 1:25:10My power rankings based on on that criteria was again, I put Sask at the top because they're the champs and they're not playing and you know all that.
- 1:25:19Number two was Montreal.
- 1:25:21And if you follow through these, you'll be able to figure out what my game picks are too by doing it.
- 1:25:24But anyway, so number two, I had Montreal, number three, I had BC, number four I had Calgary, number five, I had Edmonton, number six, I had Hamilton, seven, Winnipeg, eight,
- 1:25:39Ottawa, and nine, Toronto.
- 1:25:41So that's it.
- 1:25:42You can throw bricks at me this week or comments or whatever you want, but
- 1:25:44Why is our podcast team at the bottom?
- 1:25:48Well, because they're not playing and that's where they ended last.
- 1:25:51Same as the Grey Cup team automatically gets to go the top one until they play.
- 1:25:56The last team gets to go last until they f until they play.
- 1:26:01Alrighty.
- 1:26:02So now we gotta start talking about the the games this weekend.
- 1:26:06I'll run through because there are some notables on the injury reports.
- 1:26:10I won't give you everyone.
- 1:26:11In fact, some of them look like they're mid season.
- 1:26:13They're pages of injury reports out there.
- 1:26:15But I'll tell you for the Montreal game, we already know these people, Montreal at Hamilton.
- 1:26:20We already know these people are already out for the for the week they've been announced at.
- 1:26:24So Deadman and running back Stevie Scott III are both out with hamstrings for Montreal.
- 1:26:31Hamilton, Bridges is out with a groin, and McManus, their new linebacker, is out with a knee injury.
- 1:26:39And Braxton Hill.
- 1:26:40Braxton Hill, the other linebacker, is was listed as
- 1:26:43Questionable with a calf, so we'll have to see what happens there.
- 1:26:47What's going on in the water in Montreal that everyone has hamstring injuries over there?
- 1:26:51I don't know.
- 1:26:51was it last year that everyone got injured?
- 1:26:57And it's happening again this year.
- 1:26:58of them.
- 1:26:59There w there was a spade of Achilles as well and and some people just coming back from them that we'll see here.
- 1:27:04But yeah, but it was Davis wi Alexander with his hamstring with the news last year, but it looks like others, yeah.
- 1:27:12So anyway, moving on to the Winnipeg game.
- 1:27:14They haven't said who's in or out, so I can just tell you whether if they were on the list a significant person and and whether they were parti did not participate or limited.
- 1:27:23So did not
- 1:27:24Participate was Kevin Clarcius with the receiver with a knee, Santos Knox, linebacker with an ankle, and Cam Allen, who I believe they've been playing at safety with a knee.
- 1:27:36And limited was Major Williams, who is a name that most of us probably won't know, but it looks like he's slotted in as one of the starting corners this year, I'm told.
- 1:27:46So see how that goes.
- 1:27:48On the Calgary side, they still had.
- 1:27:51Bagleton did not participate with a knee.
- 1:27:53Sheldon Arnold in a DB did not participate, ankle, and another DB, Ben Lebras with an illness.
- 1:28:01And then as far as the limited ones goes, there was Barnes with a hamstring, Hutchings with a hamstring.
- 1:28:07You'll may probably have to help me with the name of the lineman here.
- 1:28:10GT, I always get it wrong.
- 1:28:11Jack Kurdila?
- 1:28:12Am I saying that right?
- 1:28:15Yeah.
- 1:28:15knee and uh paradise is limited with a groin injury.
- 1:28:20then the last game of the week, Edmonton at Ottawa.
- 1:28:23Edmonton has uh couple of defensive linemen.
- 1:28:26Barrows, who's uh the veteran, is out with an Achilles night, and I'm assuming we'll probably be gone for the year.
- 1:28:33And then Darien Newell, who
- 1:28:36again you unless you're a real fan, you probably won't recognize him.
- 1:28:38He was drafted in twenty five, but then could not sign because of performance enhancing drugs on his in his testing.
- 1:28:47So he sat for a year.
- 1:28:48He came in, he's out with an Achilles, and again, I'm thinking that's probably the season.
- 1:28:53And then also did not participate where Boyko from the O line with a hand injury and Joe Robostelli, who they brought over from Saskatchewan as a receiver, was out with a
- 1:29:02hamstring.
- 1:29:03On the D on the limited was a very good DB Cordell Jackson with a head injury and Noah Taylor from the D line with a hamstring.
- 1:29:12And then for the Ottawa side, Nick Mardiner, receiver, was out with Achilles.
- 1:29:16I think he lot missed all last year, if I remember right.
- 1:29:19So that's probably just him slow coming back.
- 1:29:23and then uh
- 1:29:24D-lineman Daniel Ofogo, I believe is pronounced.
- 1:29:26He's out with a foot, did not participate.
- 1:29:29And limited, where Alonzo Adai with a hamstring and uh Amari Henderson with a knee.
- 1:29:34So some injuries in the backfield there.
- 1:29:36We'll see where they get to.
- 1:29:37That's just as you're going through fantasy.
- 1:29:39And if you're making your pick'em predictions, you might want to know that.
- 1:29:43And this brings us to our pick'em predictions, the first ones of the year.
- 1:29:48And don't forget these go up on Instagram too and uh and whatnot.
- 1:29:53So let's start with since we've got two Hamilton fans here, we'll we'll start with the MJ.
- 1:30:00MJ one or two can pick who wants to go first and tell me who's gonna win Montreal or ha at Hamilton.
- 1:30:06Three, two, one, tie cats
- 1:30:09Oh, we did
- 1:30:10You do the stereo very well.
- 1:30:11It's an out of sync stereo, but it's there.
- 1:30:14Okay.
- 1:30:14Okay.
- 1:30:15GT.
- 1:30:16Um
- 1:30:16Hmm, that's a tough one.
- 1:30:18I'm gonna take Hamilton.
- 1:30:19Okay, I'll be the uh the lone man out.
- 1:30:22I'm going with Montreal.
- 1:30:23I think they're further ahead at this point than than Hamilton is.
- 1:30:27But again, we'll see what happens.
- 1:30:29Hopefully Mr.
- 1:30:30Alexander really is as healthy as they say.
- 1:30:32Okay, so GT you get to go first on uh this one because it's Winnipeg at Calgary.
- 1:30:39Yeah.
- 1:30:40Calgary's just as you just said, way further ahead, cohesiveness wise, coaching staff wise, everything wise.
- 1:30:46They're just yeah.
- 1:30:48That Calgary.
- 1:30:50Okay.
- 1:30:50MJ two?
- 1:30:51Yeah, if it's not Calgary we have some problems.
- 1:30:54I am picking Calgary.
- 1:30:55Yeah, Calgary.
- 1:30:56my husband also picks Calgary.
- 1:30:58Yeah, so yeah, they're that.
- 1:31:02Yeah.
- 1:31:04is oh I was gonna say I didn't realize you were married to Jeff.
- 1:31:13You'd have a much more professional setup for your for your podcasting.
- 1:31:18Anyway, we're it's a sweep.
- 1:31:20I'm with I I'm with uh Calgary as well.
- 1:31:23So we're good there.
- 1:31:25Um closing sorry sorry and then to close out the weekend that so those are of course Thursday, Friday games, Saturday we're closing out with Edmonton at Ottawa.
- 1:31:34I haven't gone first yet.
- 1:31:36I'm going I thought I would be going with Ottawa at this until they put Maier first.
- 1:31:41I just I can't.
- 1:31:42I I can't.
- 1:31:44So Edmonton.
- 1:31:45Jump in someone.
- 1:31:46Edmonton, okay.
- 1:31:48I also have Edmonton.
- 1:31:50I I really wanna pick the Red Blacks, but I d uh I think it's gonna be the Elks.
- 1:31:56The only road team that's gonna win this weekend.
- 1:31:59Um, no, no.
- 1:32:02Montreal's gonna win.
- 1:32:04Oh no, no.
- 1:32:06No they're not.
- 1:32:07The podcast picked the Ti Cats
- 1:32:09did.
- 1:32:10But but you didn't say the only road team the podcast picked.
- 1:32:13You said the only road team to win and you know me, I'm I'm really good at predicting things unless they're in the future.
- 1:32:20Um I I I think that's it.
- 1:32:23MJ, if w when you get your graphic that you do up on Instagram, can you pop it up on the drive for me and I'll put it up some other places too?
- 1:32:30For sure.
- 1:32:31Yep.
- 1:32:31Cool.
- 1:32:32Alrighty.
- 1:32:33But other than that, I think we're um Have we missed anything?
- 1:32:36Anything else?
- 1:32:37Anybody really got it to get out their chest?
- 1:32:41am so ready for real like week one football.
- 1:32:45So
- 1:32:46grade game one?
- 1:32:49I know but who?
- 1:32:50Who who've they've got?
- 1:32:52Lapo?
- 1:32:53No.
- 1:32:54Marshall?
- 1:32:55Al's Ti Cats.
- 1:32:56It's gonna be it's gonna be Marshall, right?
- 1:32:58Yeah, it'll be yeah.
- 1:32:59will be the Marshall will do the the the game, the color will be Ford.
- 1:33:04Dwayne Forde I think he's back.
- 1:33:06But I mean, that's okay.
- 1:33:09Yeah, but I I think you're right.
- 1:33:11I think I heard Rod and Lapo saying they're doing the the Edmonton game.
- 1:33:16okay.
- 1:33:17Well
- 1:33:18I could be wrong.
- 1:33:20Dusty, yeah, and Glenn Suiter We'll see you.
- 1:33:25Suiter can be very good when he's on.
- 1:33:27If he's off, then we'll hear three hours of football cliches.
- 1:33:31So
- 1:33:32am excited for Dusty's commentary about VA
- 1:33:36Yeah.
- 1:33:37If I had to pick one to call my my real life, it would be him.
- 1:33:42I was just gonna laugh about the injury reports.
- 1:33:45I just started my soccer season and already the list of women that are out.
- 1:33:51it's kinda hilarious.
- 1:33:52I'm like, this is starting to sound like a football team, but really there's only ten of us.
- 1:33:57it's it can happen.
- 1:33:58Like I said, I read off the the relevant players that were there, people that we would recognize.
- 1:34:05But there were at least a couple of the teams that had twelve, fourteen people on the on their injury lists already.
- 1:34:12Alrighty, so um I guess that just brings us down to closing thoughts.
- 1:34:17If you wanna give any social media where you're available you can and why don't we again we'll start with GT.
- 1:34:23you can find me on Blue Sky as always, GT Barnum at Bluesky.social dot net, whatever it is.
- 1:34:29And that's it for me.
- 1:34:30I'm uh gonna pack and get ready for the next stage.
- 1:34:34And figure out where that's from.
- 1:34:38yeah.
- 1:34:38The sun's up now at least, so
- 1:34:40Yeah.
- 1:34:41Okay, well, I hope you catch your train, plane, or automobile or whatever it is, and move on.
- 1:34:47And we'll we'll talk to you whenever we talk to you again.
- 1:34:51Or carry on, my wayward son.
- 1:34:55MJ2.
- 1:34:56I don't have a personal social media, so if you want to get in touch with me, um you can message MJ and she will text me and that is how you can get in touch with me.
- 1:35:07But I'm so happy.
- 1:35:08CFL is back.
- 1:35:09I've been looking forward to this.
- 1:35:11I gave MJ the Ti Cat jersey that we bought off of GT last year so that she would have it for opening game.
- 1:35:18Um so you better see that.
- 1:35:22We better feel
- 1:35:23wear it next podcast.
- 1:35:25Yes, and it and we'd better see that on well, I won't see it because I'm not Instagram on Instagram, but the folks better see a picture of you on Instagram.
- 1:35:33Yeah.
- 1:35:34There's your assignment.
- 1:35:37Yes.
- 1:35:38Cover reporter MJ's assignment for Okay.
- 1:35:42And your turn.
- 1:35:43Any other thoughts and
- 1:35:45Um yeah, you can just you well, we're on Instagram.
- 1:35:50you can find our pics there.
- 1:35:51Uh eventually GT's power rankings will be there in a nice fun format.
- 1:35:56Clips yeah.
- 1:35:57Clips from the show, news, commentary, all the things.
- 1:36:01Uh you can find me personally on Blue Sky at Sports of Plants and I will be talking some C B basketball.
- 1:36:09I'm getting better about it.
- 1:36:10I'm starting to learn things.
- 1:36:11always of despairing about Blue Jay baseball and I will be as we all know, I like to live post um C F L games when I watch them, so follow along.
- 1:36:20Sounds great.
- 1:36:21And uh as always, you can get me on Blueska I'm oldman dash SAC at bluesk or dot blue sky dot social whatever.
- 1:36:31Uh I did mention we put in we now I've set up again a proper email address for us, the CFL outsiders, all one word at gmail dot com.
- 1:36:40We're as far as the CFL outsiders goes, we're on I think all the Canadian social media now we're on.
- 1:36:47Gander, we're on Eh!
- 1:36:49we're on North Social.
- 1:36:50we're on just about every other one of the major ones except Facebook, which we just refuse to.
- 1:36:55They we've been trying to do Moob or I have, but it allows me to do one post a day, so I don't know what's going on there.
- 1:37:01And other than that, I'm just yeah, I am tickled pink to have real football going.
- 1:37:09I wish it was four games.
- 1:37:11I wish the riders were playing, but that's beside the point.
- 1:37:14I
- 1:37:15These three games that we've got this weekend early season games are always hit and miss, but I'm excited.
- 1:37:20These all have the potential to be some very good games.
- 1:37:25So hopefully we'll be reconvening with a lot of energy and a lot to talk about next week.
- 1:37:31But until then, until next week, for GT, for MJ, for MJ too, this is old man saying, Get the hell off my lawn.