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Drive Time: Think differently · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Jack Wuars. Did you know Jaguars Jaguars? Did you know
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive to m Bryan Sexton, John Osher, Ashland and
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Speaker 1: Sutherland Jaguars. D Time starts right now here we go,
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Speaker 1: Happy Tuesday morning to you. Welcome to Jack's Trive Time
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Speaker 1: on tune in radio and Twitter, Periscope, the whole nine yards.
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Speaker 1: Welcome to April. Everyone, right, sunny day here. I was
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Speaker 1: in Kansas City over the weekend, John Ozier, and it
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Speaker 1: was snowing on easter. I can't tell you how nice
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Speaker 1: it is to be back in Florida. You can go
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Speaker 1: ahead and tell him it's nice to be back in Bida.
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Speaker 1: That's good, and it's uh, yeah, it's nice to see you.
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Speaker 1: How are you great? Yeah, oh, it's good. You know
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Speaker 1: I'm a happy person. You're that kind of guy where
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Speaker 1: you say he's great. Just ask him, that's right, right,
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Speaker 1: if you want to know how you meant? How am
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Speaker 1: I in terms of just my ability to do things?
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Speaker 1: Absolutely great? How is that? I like it? I like
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Speaker 1: it when you're energetically. I'm ready to goad. Morning is it?
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Speaker 1: Because it's April? Because there's a lot happening this month.
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Speaker 1: There's a state of the franchise and the uniform unveiling,
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Speaker 1: and not long down the road, the draft is three
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Speaker 1: weeks from Thursday. Seriously, it's April that's got you all
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Speaker 1: hyped up well, and it has turned into a month
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Speaker 1: that has uh some energy. I don't know that that's
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Speaker 1: why I'm great, but it certainly is a reason to
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Speaker 1: be excited about the jack. It's better than thinking about
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Speaker 1: tax Day, which is coming up in two weeks as well.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's introduce you to the third member of
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Speaker 1: our team. Hello, Ashlyn Sullivan. Are you great this morning also?
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Speaker 1: Or are we just talking about good for you when
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Speaker 1: I am great? Yes, I'm excited for April. Well, then
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Speaker 1: why don't you start with the big things? All right?
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Speaker 1: Big thing? Number one draft for defense, with the money
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Speaker 1: that was spent during free to see with additions like
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Speaker 1: Andrew Normald. Now it's looking like defense might be the
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Speaker 1: big picture here looking at next season when you're going
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Speaker 1: to try to want to pay Ramsey and Hawkway, that's
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Speaker 1: looking like death might be really key here this season.
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Speaker 1: You know, John as I looked at it, and I
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Speaker 1: get it when when people are looking at this roster
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Speaker 1: they think, wow, the defense is set. I gotta get
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Speaker 1: the offense taken care of. And that may be the case.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you may see the first round pickie an
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Speaker 1: offensive tackle, a wide receiver, whatever, but you know, the
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Speaker 1: salary cap says they have to address their defense in
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Speaker 1: this draft too. Because rough numbers now, the Jaguars for
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Speaker 1: two thousand and nineteen are well over the salary cap,
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Speaker 1: something we haven't seen around here in recent years. And
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Speaker 1: so I just I just wrote down some names and numbers.
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Speaker 1: Calais Campbell, Marcel Darius, Malik Jackson, A J. Boy a
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Speaker 1: Um and the two safeties Berry Church and Sean Gibson
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Speaker 1: are fifty seven million dollars against the cap next year.
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Speaker 1: Plus Dante Fowler Jr. Is a guy whether you keep
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Speaker 1: him or not, you may not be able to account for.
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Speaker 1: You have to. You have to start accounting for that.
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Speaker 1: So when you look, I know everyone thinks right here
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Speaker 1: right now, and we're a year to year league. I'm
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Speaker 1: not discounting that, but when you see the amount, not
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Speaker 1: all six of those guys can be here in twenty
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Speaker 1: nine teen on those numbers, So that means value. And
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Speaker 1: twenty nine may fit for a guard, it may fit
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Speaker 1: for a tackle or a tight end or a wide receiver,
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Speaker 1: but it may also fit for a defensive player, and
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars may need to start thinking about nineteen as
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Speaker 1: opposed to because of the way that the CAPAF structure. Well,
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Speaker 1: it's an interesting concept, and I think it's one we're
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Speaker 1: gonna wrestle with all month because obviously they're not going
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Speaker 1: to tell us the draft strategy, and the reality is
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Speaker 1: they may not know it. I would guess with twenty
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Speaker 1: nine they are going to be multiple plans um. It
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Speaker 1: will show us clearly how they're thinking in terms of
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Speaker 1: are are we absolutely win? Now? Are we putting all
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Speaker 1: of our eggs in the two? Didn't? Didn't free agency
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Speaker 1: tell us that it did, except for if you're going
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Speaker 1: if you're going to do that, then there's nothing wrong
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Speaker 1: with coming back on the back end and drafting for
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Speaker 1: best available player, which is what you're talking about. If
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Speaker 1: they do what you do, it's not all in for
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Speaker 1: two great. So a free agent may have told us that,
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Speaker 1: but yet you're raising the point that they might not
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Speaker 1: be doing that. So it's a question to wrestle with.
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Speaker 1: I have no idea. I think they're gonna go offensive
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Speaker 1: line in the first round because there's a thought here
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Speaker 1: that if they go offensive line in the first round,
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Speaker 1: then you're building what Dallas had a couple of years ago,
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Speaker 1: where you can just run and run and that helps
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Speaker 1: your defense. So that would be a move that would
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Speaker 1: also be looking ahead to when some of those defensive
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Speaker 1: players are gone, trying to turn themselves into a team
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Speaker 1: that can be good enough running the ball that it
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Speaker 1: can help a defense that is not as talented as
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Speaker 1: it was. Maybe in two thousand six you could see
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Speaker 1: a blend of the two concepts. Right, use the first
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Speaker 1: pick for the best offensive player, but beyond that second round,
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Speaker 1: third round. Before free agency came, we had the conversation
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Speaker 1: here about they could use this entire draft on offense.
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Speaker 1: You needed you needed players everywhere, offensive line, wide receiver,
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Speaker 1: tight end, running back, you know. Um. But in free
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Speaker 1: agency they addressed everything. They got somebody to fill every slot,
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Speaker 1: including the trade for Cody Kessler last week. So now
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Speaker 1: I'm with you, and I think I used the name
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Speaker 1: Orlando Brown a couple of times, you know, as as
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Speaker 1: that right tackle. I've seen some mock drafts where Connor
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Speaker 1: Williams from Texas or Mike McGlinchey from Notre Dame right
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Speaker 1: you're talking about the best right tackle prospect that you
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Speaker 1: can possibly get in here to shore up the offensive
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Speaker 1: line for the long term. But beyond that, second round,
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Speaker 1: third round, fourth round, defense, defense, defense might make more
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Speaker 1: sense because they went all in in free agency and
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Speaker 1: all in and this year they're all in in this
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Speaker 1: year in free agency, but in the draft they have
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Speaker 1: to think about nineteen. Yeah, I agree, and I would
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Speaker 1: be surprised if there's not a running back mixed in
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Speaker 1: there somewhere again because of the way they want to play,
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Speaker 1: and I just see them overall shifting over time to
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Speaker 1: a team that can be dominant enough running the ball,
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Speaker 1: where that is their calling card as opposed to maybe
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Speaker 1: the defense being all the calling card, which it was
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Speaker 1: last year well and the Ravens, gosh, forever, it seems
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Speaker 1: like they're Their calling card has been defense, defense, defense,
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Speaker 1: and from the Ray Lewis era through today, Baltimore has
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Speaker 1: been able to keep that defense at or near the
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Speaker 1: top of the league for years and years and years.
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Speaker 1: But the way that the Jaguars look like they're building it,
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Speaker 1: that defense is going to be together for two seasons,
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Speaker 1: two dominant seasons, and then you have to start replacing
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Speaker 1: guys quickly. Well, the thing that you hope happens is
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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, Miles Jack and in got way, And I
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Speaker 1: Tellvin Smith, because I'm so good that they become trump
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Speaker 1: players that Jalen Ramsey, if you have to let one
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Speaker 1: of the safeties go, you're still a great defense because
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Speaker 1: he's so good. Miles Jack the same deal, perhaps in godway,
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Speaker 1: the same deal. I don't know that he'll be the
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Speaker 1: dominant player over all the place Campbell is, but as
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Speaker 1: a pass rusher than he's dominant. So you hope that
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Speaker 1: your core guys that you draft well enough that your
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Speaker 1: stars can carry you when you perhaps don't have as
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Speaker 1: many guys who are considered frontline guys. Uh, that becomes
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Speaker 1: tougher because it puts a lot of pressure on the
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Speaker 1: stars and nobody better get hurt. But that's the reality
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Speaker 1: of the salary cap. If you're gonna have superstars, which
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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey is and Miles Jack I think is going
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Speaker 1: to be, then it's a lot harder to have eight
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Speaker 1: or nine guys who everybody thinks of it. Oh, we're
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Speaker 1: set as a starter there. I just think it's interesting,
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Speaker 1: you know, um as Dave and his team with Tim
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Speaker 1: Walsh and John Izick built through free agency. In recent years,
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Speaker 1: they were basically two year intervals too of year blocks,
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Speaker 1: and when you had guys like Jared Odrick and Julius Thomas,
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Speaker 1: you already move on past those guys in two years.
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Speaker 1: You probably don't necessarily want to move on past this
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Speaker 1: group of players, but you're probably gonna have to because
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Speaker 1: of the way they structured it. But you're working into
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Speaker 1: your increments in the NFL now and you have to
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Speaker 1: be thinking, all right, what are we gonna do after that?
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Speaker 1: Um probably worth saying this every time we do the show.
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Speaker 1: The draft has never been more important to the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: that that and not the first round. I'm talking third, fourth, fifth,
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Speaker 1: sixth round. Undrafted free agency guys like a J. Boyer
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Speaker 1: and Andrew uh Norwell um are undrafted rookie free agents
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Speaker 1: who hit it big, but you paid big. You gotta
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Speaker 1: go find some of those guys now because that will
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Speaker 1: allow you to keep your team together longer. At those
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Speaker 1: lower numbers. The draft is paramount, and the good news is,
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Speaker 1: you know it's it's easy to lose perspective on how
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Speaker 1: well the Jaguars have drafted in fourteen and sixteen. In particular,
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Speaker 1: when you consider the draft class of fourteen, uh an
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Speaker 1: inordinate number of players have resigned either with this team
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Speaker 1: or with other teams. Colvin Robinson, Lee Bordles, Brandon Lender,
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Speaker 1: Telvin Smith. That's a huge number for one draft class.
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Speaker 1: And then the sixteen draft class. Obviously, when you have
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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, Miles Jack and e and I Unique and
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Speaker 1: got Way, they obviously need more drafts like this as
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Speaker 1: much as they've built through free agency, those two drafts
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Speaker 1: are huge draft for this franchise, and they put a
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Speaker 1: lot of pressure on that scouting staff to do it
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Speaker 1: again because remember, the draft picks play at such a
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Speaker 1: low fixed cost compared to the guys that you're gonna
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Speaker 1: pay here in the next couple of years. All Right,
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Speaker 1: we're talking about guys who are here and who could
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Speaker 1: be here. How about the guys that might be walking
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Speaker 1: through the door this week. It's a big week for
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Speaker 1: NFL teams as they host draft prospects. Sum are reported
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Speaker 1: to be in Jacksonville, including that guy Bulls owned Hayden Hurst.
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Speaker 1: We'll talk about the value of a visit in big
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Speaker 1: thing Number two, A visits value. This is the week
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Speaker 1: when NFL teams and by NFL draft prospects to the stadium.
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Speaker 1: Each team has thirty invitations. Brian, I know you and
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Speaker 1: I talked about it this morning. This is a big
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Speaker 1: week for those prospects getting a chance to upgrade their stock. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and I know everyone's gonna be looking at the names
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Speaker 1: the tight ends. You know, we just alluded to John
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Speaker 1: who will be rolling through here, and obviously the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: will have some of those guys in um. Everyone's looking
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Speaker 1: for the names they know, the big names that they know.
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Speaker 1: I'll give you two examples of guys who have come through.
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Speaker 1: I remember they rolled in um Uhs the tight end
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Speaker 1: from cow Everyone knew that, right. He spent a lot
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Speaker 1: of time in this general area because they didn't know
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Speaker 1: what to do with him, and so he'd go make
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Speaker 1: a visit with you know, scouting staff or whatever, and
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Speaker 1: then he'd end up back over here. And with him
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Speaker 1: was a big, offensive looking guy. He was a defensive
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Speaker 1: tackle and his name was Seth Payne from Cornell. And
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Speaker 1: I can remember being on the clock in the fourth,
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Speaker 1: fourth round and saying to somebody, I wonder I wonder
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Speaker 1: if this is that where they take that big tackle
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Speaker 1: from Cornell. Sure enough, Seth Payne comes. It is a
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Speaker 1: productive NFL career. Yeah. Yeah, and more and more in Houston,
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Speaker 1: where he became a household name because he was a
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Speaker 1: dominant zero technique you know, nose guard. Um, one of
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Speaker 1: the better nose guards in the league. I'll give you
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Speaker 1: more recent example two years ago. Uh, they're rolling players
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Speaker 1: through and back then we were allowed to talk to him.
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Speaker 1: We set up a little set across the hallway and
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Speaker 1: we'd interview him, and incomes this defensive end from Maryland
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Speaker 1: and I had to ask him, how do you pronounce
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Speaker 1: your name? Uh, it's Yunique in gon Quay right again,
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Speaker 1: not a guy that a lot of people knew. And
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Speaker 1: when they were on the clock in the third round,
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Speaker 1: I got a text from my brother in law who' said,
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Speaker 1: what are the Jaguars gonna do here? I said, try
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Speaker 1: Unique and Gockway. I think the Jaguars really liked him.
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Speaker 1: I did when I interviewed him. He had great answers
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Speaker 1: to the questions. And sure enough, here comes Unique and Gockway.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, the first you know, big name guys, there's
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Speaker 1: value there there's more values for guys like that Unique
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Speaker 1: and Gockway. Yeah, and it's important to keep these visits
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Speaker 1: and perspective in the sense that everybody this time of
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Speaker 1: year gets really excited. Whether the Jaguars talked to so
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Speaker 1: and so with the Senior Bowl, and they talked to
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Speaker 1: so and so with the Combine, and they interviewed him
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Speaker 1: here at some point, Teams interview pretty much everybody somewhere.
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Speaker 1: This has value in terms of, you know, if there's
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Speaker 1: thirty guys here at some point the next week, realistically
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Speaker 1: you're gonna draft two of them. So it's still the
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Speaker 1: odds are that most of the guys that he would
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Speaker 1: get excited about. I think Orlando Brown is one of
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Speaker 1: the names. For example. Well, that's great, except there might
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Speaker 1: be a fifteen of their teams. Also, interestingly, this isn't
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Speaker 1: the only visiting. It gives you an idea of a
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Speaker 1: direction they might go. The fact that there are a
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Speaker 1: tight end certainly gives you. It confirms what we assume
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Speaker 1: and if they'd be looking at that crop. I tend
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Speaker 1: not to get overly excited about the guys who come here,
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Speaker 1: just because it's hard to know if they're actually going
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Speaker 1: to be here. But to me, it overall, percentage wise,
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Speaker 1: gives you some sort of feel for the direction they're looking.
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Speaker 1: And the fact that they're tight ends offensive Lineman certainly
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Speaker 1: makes you think that those are possibilities, you know. And
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Speaker 1: talking about the value of the visit, right because Jack
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Speaker 1: will see these guys on tape, they see them on
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Speaker 1: the college campus, they talked to their coaches and the
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Speaker 1: staff at wherever university they play. They get them in
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Speaker 1: Indianapolis in many cases, you know, So what's the overall
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Speaker 1: value of the visit? And I can remember there was
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Speaker 1: a question that we talked with Yunique about and then
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Speaker 1: those players that year, and it was it was about money.
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Speaker 1: And his answer about money was great, I like it.
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Speaker 1: His answer was his answer was it it's not that
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Speaker 1: important to me. The money isn't my driving factor. And
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Speaker 1: somebody from the scouting steps and so, you know, what
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Speaker 1: would you think they were just you know, quizzing find it?
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Speaker 1: What did you think of the guys? They weren't taking
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Speaker 1: notes or anything like that. But I remember saying, hey,
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Speaker 1: I asked him this question. He gave me this specific
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Speaker 1: answer about what was important to him. And I remember something, Oh,
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Speaker 1: you know, they're looking for every little piece of information.
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Speaker 1: And it's not just when the coach sits down, it's
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Speaker 1: the interaction maybe with the secretary up front. How was
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Speaker 1: he when he walked in? Oh, they said, good morning.
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Speaker 1: He was a nice kid. I liked him. All those
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Speaker 1: little things, every little Again, really low on the Totem
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Speaker 1: poll in terms of the value overall. Too. They want
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Speaker 1: to be exactly. They want to know how they're going
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Speaker 1: to be here in this environment. And I'll bet that
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Speaker 1: it's more important to unique next off season when he's negotiating.
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Speaker 1: But he said it wasn't his driving, right, And your
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Speaker 1: point is that they always like to see players in
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Speaker 1: different situations. They like to see him under pressure, that
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Speaker 1: team around other players to see it. If they're guys
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Speaker 1: who sort of take the initiative and lead in the situation,
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Speaker 1: that's more important at the combine. But anytime they can
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Speaker 1: get guys in situation where they're interacting, then you can
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Speaker 1: see them beyond where you're just interviewing them face to face.
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Speaker 1: Often they're so rehearsed at the interviews that they don't
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Speaker 1: get a real feel for the guys. So those conversations
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Speaker 1: just it's important when they circle back to somebody they know,
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Speaker 1: talk to the player when the player wasn't really on stage,
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Speaker 1: and find out what kind of guy was because they're
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Speaker 1: not here to run a forty or to you know,
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Speaker 1: lift the bar and how many times can you press
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Speaker 1: to or take the wonder lick. It's to see what
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Speaker 1: kind of a person they are in these kinds of settings,
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Speaker 1: the kinds of daily settings and interactions that they'll have
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Speaker 1: with people. Back to Ashland for Big Thing three, A
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Speaker 1: big thing three Spring is here, sprunk, hunt, sprung, whatever
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Speaker 1: you want to call it. April is a big month here.
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Speaker 1: See to the franchise in April nineteenth, where we'll get
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Speaker 1: to look at those new uniforms. The draft three short
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Speaker 1: weeks away. O t S on Mayo. That's the starting dates.
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Speaker 1: Some fook a happening here pretty soon, guys. Yeah, we
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Speaker 1: talked a little bit about it, John of The first
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Speaker 1: thing is is that on the sixt two weeks from yesterday,
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Speaker 1: right the out of season program begins. So the guys
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Speaker 1: who are going to be here are going to come
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Speaker 1: in and start working out, stretching that kind of stuff,
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Speaker 1: and that's really their starting day. O. T A s
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Speaker 1: are when they're on the field, and that's when fans
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Speaker 1: sort of think is the off season program starting, but
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Speaker 1: the off season program in terms of their conditioning, in
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Speaker 1: terms of being here with Thomas lyndsky In, in in terms
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Speaker 1: of starting the process of working towards training camp for
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Speaker 1: the players, that's when that begins, and that's when they're
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Speaker 1: downtime is over a few wills, but it's not started.
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Speaker 1: It's not mandatory though, And I you know, I think
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Speaker 1: we've all heard grumblings that they'll be guys. You know,
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Speaker 1: we've got this roster is different than recent years. You've
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Speaker 1: got some talented guys with some some wide perspectives on
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Speaker 1: the world that travel and are involved in business opportunities.
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Speaker 1: I don't know that you're going to see every player
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Speaker 1: here every day like we have in years. And it's
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Speaker 1: the old thing. If you're if, if you're good enough,
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Speaker 1: I mean I would think players such as Jalen Ramsey
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Speaker 1: Leonard for Nett. It's it's usually higher profile guys who
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Speaker 1: aren't um the It's all okay as long as you
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Speaker 1: show up into say and as long as you're ready
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Speaker 1: to go. A guy like ja I have no idea
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Speaker 1: of Genlevy here or not. But in that case, most coaches,
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Speaker 1: most football people will tell you it's fine if you
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Speaker 1: don't show up. I was an Indie for ten years.
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Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison never showed up at an O t ALL.
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Speaker 1: It's in the Hall of Fame, so nobody cared. So
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Speaker 1: that's the drawing point, and people talk about chemistry, etcetera, etcetera.
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Speaker 1: I think younger players generally should be here during O
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Speaker 1: t A s just or but during the whole thing,
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Speaker 1: just to be part of it. But as you get older,
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Speaker 1: if you're great, so well. And I think that's the
18:56
Speaker 1: thing is the roster was more influx in recent years
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Speaker 1: and guys were fighting for jobs chs. You've got more
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Speaker 1: guys who are guaranteed jobs on this defense, and so
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Speaker 1: I think the expectation is you'll see a lot of
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Speaker 1: guys rolling through here a day here, a day there,
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Speaker 1: but you might not see participation that you have in
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Speaker 1: years passed. Isn't as important. Yeah, the only position that
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Speaker 1: really needs to be here all the time is quarterback,
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Speaker 1: especially once they're on the field. It's it's it's always critical.
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Speaker 1: And you rarely see quarterbacks not in the off season
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Speaker 1: program because they know the value of their leadership that
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Speaker 1: whole thing. Everybody else is sort of a satellite around that.
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Speaker 1: It's not quite foot on the gas time, but you
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Speaker 1: can sense that it's getting closer. It becomes on April six,
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Speaker 1: ozone snapshots. First one JP from Orlando Johnny with the
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Speaker 1: Jags trusting their future in Blake Bordles, should they go
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Speaker 1: ahead and draft another running back in the first round
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Speaker 1: and run the old wing te First of all, I
21:17
Speaker 1: thought JP was working on a shed all weekend, But
21:22
Speaker 1: you know it's it's a bit of a sarcastic question.
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Speaker 1: Obviously obviously not gonna run the wing t, but the
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Speaker 1: question does speak to the point that we talked about earlier.
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Speaker 1: I'm fascinated, Brian to figure out where this team is
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Speaker 1: going to draft running back. Um. I go back and
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Speaker 1: forth one because every time I think, well, they won't
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Speaker 1: draft it until later, I think, boy, this is a
21:42
Speaker 1: team that really wants to run the ball, and you
21:45
Speaker 1: could see them taking the approach We're gonna be the Falcons.
21:47
Speaker 1: We're gonna be the Saints, who in the last couple
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Speaker 1: of years have had two headed running backs who were
21:53
Speaker 1: absolutely dynamic and absolutely help those teams to the Super
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Speaker 1: Bowl and to within a couple of games of Super Bowl. Um,
22:00
Speaker 1: do you drafted that high two years in a row? Boy,
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Speaker 1: that's unconventional. Who's there though? But the way they want
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Speaker 1: to play, Uh, I could see it in the first
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Speaker 1: two rounds, either the two Georgia kids there at the
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Speaker 1: bottom of the second round one something like that. Probably
22:17
Speaker 1: it'd be tough to pass on one of those guys,
22:19
Speaker 1: especially because you want to play the style that Leonard
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Speaker 1: for Nette has right, and you know his style is
22:25
Speaker 1: not gonna let him be active sixteen games. The chances
22:28
Speaker 1: of that are as rare as the Jaguars chances of
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Speaker 1: getting their defensive starts right again this year. So what
22:35
Speaker 1: if you could get a big, bruising back in the
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Speaker 1: Chub kid. I mean, I don't watch a lot of
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Speaker 1: college ball, but from what I see of the tape
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Speaker 1: and the analysis I read that he looks like he
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Speaker 1: plays that kind of for Nette style and he's sitting
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Speaker 1: there at the bottom of the second round. He's healthy
22:48
Speaker 1: when he would be back to what you wanted to
22:50
Speaker 1: be last year, which is for Nette starting uh, Chris
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Speaker 1: Ivory being they expected more from Chris Ivory last year
22:58
Speaker 1: and that's why he's not back. Uh Corey Grant with
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Speaker 1: a change of pace, and then you have T. J. Yelden,
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Speaker 1: who's a very good pass blocker, third down guy. Um,
23:06
Speaker 1: it's important. Remember when we talk about a possible draft
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Speaker 1: pick playing that backup role, that doesn't mean Corey Grant
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Speaker 1: not a factor. I just don't see Corey Grant as
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Speaker 1: the guy that they want. If for Net is hurt,
23:19
Speaker 1: I don't know that you want him starting three games
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Speaker 1: in a row. Well, I remember when Marty Schottenheimer had
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Speaker 1: Christian Nakoya and they went and grab Berry word right,
23:27
Speaker 1: two big bruising backs, because boy could they run the
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Speaker 1: ball in Kansas City back in those days. All right,
23:31
Speaker 1: back to you, Ashlyn, by the way, that was the
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Speaker 1: early nineties before you were born, right. I figured, all right,
23:36
Speaker 1: ozone number two Stephen from Duval Mr. Oh roster looks
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Speaker 1: pretty set for starters. I think A. J. Cann is
23:43
Speaker 1: the weak spot, but we could use an upgrade at
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Speaker 1: wide receiver and linebacker. I know we're almost set up
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Speaker 1: for best available player in the first and second rounds.
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Speaker 1: But what is your gut feeling for the first two picks. Well,
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Speaker 1: you know, and it's so tough because of what we
23:56
Speaker 1: talked about earlier. Brian free agencies skewed every because they're
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Speaker 1: so set up for being a perspective right right, it's
24:04
Speaker 1: hard to I still think they're going offensive line and
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Speaker 1: or tight end both early with maybe a running back
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Speaker 1: in the third round. Um, it just feels like they're
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Speaker 1: gearing up to be that sort of team and that
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Speaker 1: they would like to be that much more dynamic and
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Speaker 1: strong at those three spots. And yet as soon as
24:27
Speaker 1: I say that, I circle back to how much sense
24:30
Speaker 1: it makes to take at least one defensive guy in there. So, um,
24:34
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of theories this month, and
24:36
Speaker 1: I wish I had a better feel for a gut
24:39
Speaker 1: on where they're gonna go. But I think they created
24:42
Speaker 1: that by what they did in free agency enables them
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Speaker 1: not to have to be desperate during the draft. I
24:48
Speaker 1: have read and talk to people who have told me
24:51
Speaker 1: that this is a very deep draft for wide receiver,
24:53
Speaker 1: not necessarily elite, but you look at the Miller kid
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Speaker 1: from Memphis or the I forget his name, the kid
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Speaker 1: from Colorado State. I mean those are guys that will
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Speaker 1: be available in the third, fourth, fifth round, that there
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Speaker 1: are receivers to be had, that there are tight ends
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Speaker 1: that you can find, but the big guys go fast.
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Speaker 1: So I'll go with offensive line, defensive line first two picks.
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Speaker 1: Maybe running back in the third. That would make sense
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Speaker 1: to me because they want to run the ball. You
25:15
Speaker 1: obviously have to be able to stop the run. Big
25:18
Speaker 1: guys are at a premium. I could see them going there.
25:21
Speaker 1: I could really see him this year. If somebody is
25:26
Speaker 1: it is trying to trade into the first round to
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Speaker 1: get a quarterback, I could definitely see this team trying
25:32
Speaker 1: to move back and pick up something in the second, third,
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Speaker 1: fourth somewhere. Because of what we're talking about that there's
25:38
Speaker 1: really not a need position. You could see them being
25:41
Speaker 1: willing to drop back five or six spots to pick
25:44
Speaker 1: up an extra pick. And I'm always the guy who
25:46
Speaker 1: says I never talked trades for the draft because you
25:48
Speaker 1: can't predict it, but it makes sense in this situation. Actually,
25:50
Speaker 1: you've got one more, one more. Let's finished up with
25:53
Speaker 1: Bob from South Carolina, seems to me that a pretty
25:56
Speaker 1: big deals at the entire coaching staff comes back this
25:58
Speaker 1: year knowing the player and the players, knowing the system
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Speaker 1: and what's expected. Therefore building on last year's success with
26:04
Speaker 1: an important improved roster from day one. Yeah, Doug Marone,
26:08
Speaker 1: every time he's talked publicly this year since the Championship game,
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Speaker 1: at the combine end the owners meetings, has gone out
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Speaker 1: of his way to mention that it's a rare thing
26:18
Speaker 1: in the NFL to have your entire staff back, because
26:21
Speaker 1: usually you're either losing guys because you performed well or
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Speaker 1: because you didn't perform well. It's rare to have this,
26:28
Speaker 1: so uh, they need to take advantage of it because
26:31
Speaker 1: there is an element of continuity with Blake Bortles. There's
26:34
Speaker 1: also an element with Nate Hackett and having Todd washback
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Speaker 1: and Nathaniel Hackett back. If they succeed this year, I
26:43
Speaker 1: don't know that you'll get that again. Well, how many
26:45
Speaker 1: times did Nathaniel Hackett say to us last year that
26:47
Speaker 1: Blake Bortles was in his first year in the system,
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Speaker 1: and how many how many times do you have that?
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Speaker 1: And look at how he improved in the second half
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Speaker 1: of that season. So that's to me, that's the most
26:57
Speaker 1: interesting dynamic is how much can Blake imp roof under
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Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett in the second year. How real is that?
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Speaker 1: Nate sure thinks that he's going to take a big
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Speaker 1: step being in his second year under him, and obviously
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Speaker 1: the team thinks. Saturday went side him. He had both
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Speaker 1: coaches and players learning the new systems last year. This
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Speaker 1: year it's just players and just the new players at
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Speaker 1: that which will be handful. So John, thanks too much
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Speaker 1: for Ashlyn Sullivan, Joe Fortunato with Patrick Kavanaugh, we appreciate
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Speaker 1: you joining us on Jack's drive time on a Tuesday morning.
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Speaker 1: Have a wonderful afternoon, everybody, enjoy the sunshine.