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The 2024 Olympics, Part 1 · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha and welcome to Steff.
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Speaker 1: I never told you, precture, I heard.
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Speaker 2: You, and it's that time again, Olympics time. I felt
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Speaker 2: like I was doing a chair And honestly, we can't
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Speaker 2: wait to hear from our different contributors about what is happening.
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Speaker 2: So I feel like this is a call out, yo, yo,
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Speaker 2: send us your information, send us your thoughts, send us
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Speaker 2: your commentary, because we love it. But we decided that
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Speaker 2: we wanted to go down a couple of different routes
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Speaker 2: for this episode on what is happening as it has
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Speaker 2: just started. I know a lot of few games, but
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Speaker 2: there's a lot of things happening constantly, changing wins and
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Speaker 2: controversies and so much. But before we start with what's
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Speaker 2: happening with the current twenty twenty four Olympics, we wanted
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Speaker 2: to talk a little bit about some of the historical things,
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Speaker 2: specifically with the IOC or International Olympic Committee, So we
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Speaker 2: wanted to start with, of course, the women of the IOC.
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Speaker 2: We kind of talked about how they were so delayed
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Speaker 2: and behind and allowing for women to be a part
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Speaker 2: of the Olympics in general, just to compete and how
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Speaker 2: women had to do their own thing, and they were
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Speaker 2: like the IOC was super mad, you know. The French
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Speaker 2: too was like, no, women shouldn't be here, and now
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Speaker 2: we're in Paris anyway, So we wanted to talk about
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Speaker 2: the actual IOC in itself and how the leadership was
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Speaker 2: very slow when it came to allowing the women to
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Speaker 2: be a part of the organization itself. So not only
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Speaker 2: were they slow about allowing women to be a part
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Speaker 2: of it, and I think it took it till twenty
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Speaker 2: twelve for it to have an actual, like equal representation
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Speaker 2: of women in the competitions, not necessarily the competitors, but
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Speaker 2: the competition and games itself. So here's question number one,
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Speaker 2: When did the IOC allow women to be a part
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Speaker 2: of the leadership? Again, I think we talked about this
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Speaker 2: on our feminists around the world just recently. But the
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Speaker 2: IOC was founded in eighteen ninety four and they governed
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Speaker 2: the National Olympic Committees, which there is a total of
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Speaker 2: like two hundred and six, which are kind of take
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Speaker 2: care of their own country and who they bring in
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Speaker 2: to the competitions. So it wasn't until nineteen eighty one
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Speaker 2: that the IOC finally allowed two women to become official
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Speaker 2: members of the IOC, and they were former Olympians. I'm
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Speaker 2: so sorry if I butchered these names. Y'all know, when
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Speaker 2: it comes to the international names and episodes, sometimes it's
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Speaker 2: really hard for us to find that information. So if
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Speaker 2: you know these names and we're saying it wrong, just
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Speaker 2: let us know. But Hearjo Hogman from Finland and Flora
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Speaker 2: Isava Fnesca from Venezuela and Finesco was the first to
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Speaker 2: serve on the executive board, which happened in nineteen ninety Yes.
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Speaker 1: And if you listen to our earlier episode of Feminists
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Speaker 1: around the World, which by the way, this is coming
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Speaker 1: out August second, twenty twenty four, things.
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Speaker 3: Are changing very quickly, very rapidly.
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Speaker 1: You know. We already talked about the first woman to
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Speaker 1: be appointed as the vice president, and she has accomplished
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Speaker 1: quite a lot for so many hears a bit from
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Speaker 1: Wikipedia about her quote. In nineteen ninety two, De France
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Speaker 1: began chairing the prototype of the IOC Commission on Women
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Speaker 1: in Sport. Defrance not only worked towards promoting gender equality
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Speaker 1: and sports, but she also wanted to move toward gender
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Speaker 1: equality in the IOC so women could be equally represented.
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Speaker 1: She believed that without equal representation in the IOC that
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Speaker 1: women's voices would not get an equal chance to be heard.
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Speaker 2: So the Commission, which has since been renamed Gender Equality,
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Speaker 2: Diversity and Inclusion Commission, is running strong. According to Olympics
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Speaker 2: dot Com. Here is how they define the role of
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Speaker 2: the Commission. The Commission advises the IOC Session, the IOC
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Speaker 2: Executive Board, and the IOC President on the implementation of
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Speaker 2: the Gender Equality and Inclusion Strategy to enable them to
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Speaker 2: make informed and balanced decisions to advance gender equality in
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Speaker 2: sport on and off the field of play across the
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Speaker 2: three spheres of responsibility of the IOC, which is the
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Speaker 2: IOC as an organization, the IOC as owner of the
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Speaker 2: Olympic Games, the IOC as leader of the Olympic Movement,
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Speaker 2: and just fyi. According to their website, they still have
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Speaker 2: difference as an honorary member. Also, we're not talking about
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Speaker 2: the money that is made within the IOC, but we
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Speaker 2: know it's in the billions just fyi anyway, and there
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Speaker 2: hasn't been much conversation about what is how it's distributed
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Speaker 2: and whether or not there's corruption. I think there was
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Speaker 2: a dude that was just like, we're not saying that's corrupt,
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Speaker 2: but we're saying there's really no accountability about what is
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Speaker 2: happening with the money, So just let that linger there. So,
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Speaker 2: with the help of a Vice President, Defrance and her
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Speaker 2: new Commissi, the IOC created a new policy that required
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Speaker 2: that women would make up twenty percent of the participants,
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Speaker 2: which seems like a low amount, but they actually failed
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Speaker 2: to do this in two thousand and five, which was
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Speaker 2: the goal date, and would not be met even in
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Speaker 2: twenty twelve. So seven years later still hadn't been met.
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Speaker 2: Y'all twenty twelve. My gosh, I was out of college
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Speaker 2: by this point. I'm old. But as of this Olympics,
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Speaker 2: forty one percent of the IOC membership is held by women,
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Speaker 2: and fourteen of the thirty three commissions are led by women,
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Speaker 2: and at least thirty three percent of women are on
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Speaker 2: the Executive Board, so you know, the numbers are rising. However,
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Speaker 2: I think it's important to note that there has yet
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Speaker 2: to be a woman to be appointed as the President
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Speaker 2: of the IOC, So VP is as high as women
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Speaker 2: have gotten.
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Speaker 1: Yes, so have these policies, commissions and efforts worked. According
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Speaker 1: to the new releases for this year's games, Yes, the
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Speaker 1: IOC set a goal of making the participants of fifty
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Speaker 1: to fifty split in registered competitors, but they didn't quite.
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Speaker 3: Hit the marks.
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Speaker 1: Here are some statistics for this year. According to an
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Speaker 1: ap news dot com article quote one week before the
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Speaker 1: opening ceremony, the official IOC database for the Paris Olympics
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Speaker 1: showed eleven thousand, two hundred and fifteen athletes including backups,
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Speaker 1: registered to compete. Five thousand, seven hundred and twelve and
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Speaker 1: men's events and five thousand, five hundred and three in
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Speaker 1: women's events are of fifty one to forty nine percent split.
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Speaker 1: In track and field, which has qualifying standards the athletes
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Speaker 1: must reach, there were fifty more registered for the men's
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Speaker 1: events than women's one thousand and ninety one to one
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Speaker 1: thousand and forty one. And swimming, the difference was four
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Speaker 1: hundred and sixty four to three hundred ninety three. In soccer,
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Speaker 1: with sixteen teams in the men's tournament and just twelve
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Speaker 1: in the women, the athlete tally was three hundred and
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Speaker 1: fifty one to two hundred and sixty four. The wrestling
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Speaker 1: entry has one hundred and ninety three men and ninety
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Speaker 1: six women with a men only category in Greco Roman.
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Speaker 2: And according to that same report, it shows that the
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Speaker 2: US has the highest number of women competing, with three
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Speaker 2: hundred and thirty eight women out of six hundred and
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Speaker 2: thirty eight delegates, making it a fifty three percentage of women.
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Speaker 2: But with that, it's also noted that one of the
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Speaker 2: reasons include that the men's field hockey team did not
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Speaker 2: qualify for those games while the women's did so. Just
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Speaker 2: put that in the back of your head. But there
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Speaker 2: are other countries that have more women percentage wise. Here's
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Speaker 2: another quote from the AP News article. Guam, a US
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Speaker 2: island territory east of the Philippines, led the way with
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Speaker 2: eighty seven point five percent women seven in this team
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Speaker 2: of eight athletes. According to the IOC database, Guam's seven
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Speaker 2: women are in six different sports. Nicaragua is set to
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Speaker 2: arrive with eighty six percent women six of its seven athletes,
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Speaker 2: in Sierra Leone with eighty percent and by the way,
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Speaker 2: currently there are only two athletes who identify as non
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Speaker 2: binary and transgender among the athletes, Nikki Hilts from the
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Speaker 2: US and Quinn from the Canadian soccer team.
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Speaker 1: Which all Listener wrote in about Yes Listener wrote in
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Speaker 1: be Quinn However, with the number of players becoming more
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Speaker 1: equal and diverse, there are still some issues with that.
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Speaker 1: There are several countries that have not progressed as well.
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Speaker 1: Here's some more information from that AP news article.
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Speaker 3: Quote.
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Speaker 1: Six of the two hundred and five official Olympic teams
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Speaker 1: had no elite level female athlete registered to compete Belize,
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Speaker 1: Guinea Bissau, Iraq, Liechtenstein, Naururu and Somalia. Qatar, which wants
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Speaker 1: to host the twenty thirty six Olympics. WOA has just
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Speaker 1: one woman and its fourteen athlete team, or seven percent half.
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Speaker 1: The Katari team represents men's track and fields.
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Speaker 2: Like really known low numbers to want to host this game.
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Speaker 2: Maybe I'm just.
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Speaker 1: Well, I know, yes, I agree, but also I know
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Speaker 1: some sports folks who are listening will have the.
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Speaker 3: Soccer alarm bells.
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Speaker 1: Are ringing, the football alarm bells are ringing because there
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Speaker 1: was some drama with that too. About and I mean again,
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Speaker 1: there's so many controversies we could get into, but the
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Speaker 1: host country and like what happens right and what it
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Speaker 1: takes to make it is a big one by just
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Speaker 1: no guitars in this conversation before.
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Speaker 2: Right, Well, I mean they didn't host the World Cup,
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Speaker 2: so I mean, huh huh. Anyway, so would that also
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Speaker 2: we should look at leadership within the game, such as
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Speaker 2: the coaches. And here's a quote from CNN dot com.
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Speaker 2: But as female athletes are achieving gender parody on the
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Speaker 2: field of play, female representation in the boardroom and among coaches,
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Speaker 2: where power is concentrated still lags behind. Just thirteen percent
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Speaker 2: of coaches who attended the Tokyo Olympics for women, a
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Speaker 2: number that is widely expected to rise but still remain
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Speaker 2: low in Paris. If you look at women in coaching,
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Speaker 2: you're going to see a small percentage compared to men
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Speaker 2: being in that role because since sports have started, it's
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Speaker 2: been a men's play until the women have had to
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Speaker 2: start showing we can do great things as coaches and athletes,
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Speaker 2: and we're starting to see that shift. Michelle Lewis Freeman,
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Speaker 2: a former Olympian and now the head women's relay coach
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Speaker 2: for the US Track and Field team, told CNN. Freeman
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Speaker 2: is the first woman to hold the post, she says,
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Speaker 2: adding that the societal norms which traditionally prevented women from
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Speaker 2: holding such leadership roles in sports, are beginning to break down,
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Speaker 2: particularly as their work quote speaks for themselves.
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Speaker 1: And the article continues quote. With still such a low
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Speaker 1: proportion of female coaches, they have taken to creating their
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Speaker 1: own support systems outside of their national federations. In the IOC,
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Speaker 1: Vicky Houten, founder of the Female Coaching Network, has created
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Speaker 1: a WhatsApp group for fifty two of the world's best
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Speaker 1: female coaches to support one another and shared advice, as
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Speaker 1: well as vent about a system that still discriminates against women.
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Speaker 1: We've got women who have coached a current Olympic gold
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Speaker 1: medalist that have still not been chosen as team staff repairs,
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Speaker 1: even though that athlete is going to be defending their
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Speaker 1: gold medal, Houten told CNN. She explains that many national
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Speaker 1: teams don't have a standardized way of selecting coaches for
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Speaker 1: a major competition, instead relying on quote, who the head
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Speaker 1: coach wants, rather than considering the needs of female athletes.
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Speaker 2: Right, But the IOC has commented on the fact that
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Speaker 2: the number of women in coaching is low, and here's
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Speaker 2: something from Olympics dot Com. Although pairs twenty twenty four
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Speaker 2: will break new ground. A real gender gap still exists
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Speaker 2: today in the athlete's entourage, where the number of women
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Speaker 2: holding leadership roles such as that of CHEFDA, Mission technical
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Speaker 2: official and coach remains remarkably low. At Tokyo twenty twenty,
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Speaker 2: only thirteen percent of coaches for women. The IOC is
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Speaker 2: committed to addressing the challenge and to supporting Olympic Movement
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Speaker 2: stakeholders to find pathways for more women to reach the
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Speaker 2: highest levels of coaching. Increasing the visibility of elite coaches
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Speaker 2: who have broken those barriers and who are role models
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Speaker 2: for more women to follow their lead is itself a goal,
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Speaker 2: and they have even participated in the hashtag women coach
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Speaker 2: in order to tackle the challenges coming forward, like like
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Speaker 2: a big hashtag that I've seen under their Twitter.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 1: Well, along with that, they have also started the WISH
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Speaker 1: program and here's some information about that from Olympics dot
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Speaker 1: com quote. The program aims to open up more pathways
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Speaker 1: for women to progress into high performance coaching roles at national, continental,
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Speaker 1: and international competitions, including major events such as the Olympic
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Speaker 1: Games and the yog Are Youth Olympic Games. Backed by
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Speaker 1: USD one million dollars in Olympic solid funding, WISH will
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Speaker 1: benefit approximately one hundred women over four years, helping participants
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Speaker 1: develop their leadership skills, confidence and careers and giving them
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Speaker 1: one to one leadership mentoring plus ongoing support from a
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Speaker 1: sport specific mentor. I have to say I have been
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Speaker 1: watching the Olympics a lot since it started. I think
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Speaker 1: it's a nice like I put it on the background,
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Speaker 1: which I feel terrible because people like work their whole lives,
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Speaker 1: and I'm like, I have it on doing research on
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Speaker 1: cheese or.
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Speaker 3: Whatever, which is a true thing that happens.
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Speaker 1: But I have had it on in the background a lot,
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Speaker 1: and I have noticed I've clocked not that many female coaches,
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Speaker 1: especially for women right. And I've also picked up on
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Speaker 1: usually there's three commentators, two or men, one is a woman,
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Speaker 1: and they're supposed to have all been in the sport
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Speaker 1: involved somehow, usually they've won a medal. In the case
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Speaker 1: of US Olympic coverage, I don't. I've heard it's actually
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Speaker 1: wildly different in other countries, so I'd love to hear
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Speaker 1: from other listeners outside.
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Speaker 3: Of the US. But I have picked up on that.
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Speaker 1: So it will be interesting to see how this progresses,
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Speaker 1: especially yeah, when right the next games happened in LA.
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Speaker 2: Actually, one of the stats that I did see is
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Speaker 2: they are bringing more women commentators. I think they said
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Speaker 2: around forty percent. Now I don't know if that's true
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Speaker 2: or not, because we don't hear obviously, we hear very
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Speaker 2: one sided us level of commentators, so it is interesting
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Speaker 2: to see if they have brought more on. I mean,
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Speaker 2: one dude got fired, so we'll talk about that in
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Speaker 2: a second, and the woman that was with him was like,
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Speaker 2: oh god, essentially, but that's all different conversations that we're
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Speaker 2: coming up to in a minute. With high stakes competitions
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Speaker 2: and games like the Olympics, it's not unreasonable to see
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Speaker 2: some controversy within the events, but some do feel a
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Speaker 2: bit too much overall, and we don't want to be
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Speaker 2: too much of a downer in this episode necessarily, I
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Speaker 2: guess kind of all the statistics are not wonderful either,
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Speaker 2: but we are talking about two of the bigger ones
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Speaker 2: that we have seen. I know there's many more. I'm
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Speaker 2: not talking about tennis right now.
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Speaker 3: Either.
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Speaker 2: We'll have an overall wrap up of everything we saw,
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Speaker 2: or at least a lot of things. We saw some
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Speaker 2: of the highlights that caught our attention. Again, yes, we
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Speaker 2: are very US centric, so for our international listeners, please
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Speaker 2: let us know what's going on because we love those
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Speaker 2: perspective as well. We think it's beautiful. We want more
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Speaker 2: of it, as you know, being in the US, were
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Speaker 2: we only see, like from very skewed perspective. I am
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Speaker 2: trying to get more information. TikTok has really helped in
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Speaker 2: seeing different perspectives and I am very grateful for that.
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Speaker 2: Social media come on. But with that, again, this is
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Speaker 2: a call out for y'all that let us know what's
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Speaker 2: going on from your perspective. But we do want to
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Speaker 2: highlight some key things. We're only going to talk about
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Speaker 2: a couple and I think y'all already probably have already
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Speaker 2: figured out we're going to talk about this one specifically.
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Speaker 2: In women's boxing, Italian boxer Angela Karini pulled out within
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Speaker 2: seconds of her fight with the Algerian boxer Iman Khalif,
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Speaker 2: I think like forty six seconds, and this has brought
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Speaker 2: out lots of nasty and ugly comments made by transphobic
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Speaker 2: and biased critics, including she who should not be named,
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Speaker 2: Rawlings herself. Yeah, I named her. This in itself is
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Speaker 2: an issue, but there's something to be noted here for
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Speaker 2: those who scream biological female and all of that nonsense,
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Speaker 2: and I'm calling it nonsense. Khalif has always identified as
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Speaker 2: female as a woman. Here's a quote that's a bit
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Speaker 2: about her from another AP news article. You know, AP
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Speaker 2: News is all all over the Olympics. Khalif was assigned
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Speaker 2: female at birth, and it says so on her password,
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Speaker 2: which is the International Olympic Committee's threshold for eligibility for
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Speaker 2: boxing because of the rift between the sports governing body
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Speaker 2: and the IOC. Khalif is a formidable athlete with respected
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Speaker 2: fighting skills, contending in top international events, including major amateur
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Speaker 2: boxing tournaments over the past six years, such as the
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Speaker 2: Tokyo Olympics. She's won a few regional gold medals.
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Speaker 1: The article continues with her story quote. Born in nineteen
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Speaker 1: ninety nine, Khalif is from rural northwestern Algeria. Her father
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Speaker 1: initially didn't approve of girls participating in boxing, but Khalif
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Speaker 1: said she gave up soccer as a teenager to pursue
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Speaker 1: her new passion, even though she had to travel ten
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Speaker 1: kilometers each way to the gym. Khalif eventually caught the
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Speaker 1: attention of Algeria's national team, making her major tournament debut
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Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen with the first round loss at the
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Speaker 1: AIBA now the International Boxing Association World Championships. She lost
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Speaker 1: five of her first six elite level bouts, but improved
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Speaker 1: and excelled. Khalif was one of Algeria's first three Olympic
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Speaker 1: women's boxers sent to Tokyo three years ago. She won
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Speaker 1: her opening bout, but lost her second to eventual gold
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Speaker 1: medalist Kelly Harrington of Ireland. She also raised her profile
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Speaker 1: by doing well in the next two World Championships, and
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Speaker 1: she even became a UNISEF national ambassador early this year.
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Speaker 2: Right, and she had previously been disqualified from a twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty three World Championship due to quote failing unspecified and
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Speaker 2: untransparent eligibility test for women's competition from the now banned
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Speaker 2: International Boxing Association.
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Speaker 3: Yes, and I would recommend you.
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Speaker 1: See we did a whole episode about the history of
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Speaker 1: the Olympics kind of doing this, so go check that
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Speaker 1: out if you haven't our need a reminder, But yeah,
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Speaker 1: the reason for disqualification has been controversial in itself. More
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Speaker 1: from AP News quote. The circumstances of that disqualification have
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Speaker 1: been considered highly unusual ever since it happened, and Khalif
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Speaker 1: called it a big conspiracy at the time. She had
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Speaker 1: previously competed without issues and was disqualified by the sports
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Speaker 1: governing body only after she defeated Russian boxer Azalea Amineva
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Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty three tournament. The IBA is controlled
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Speaker 1: by Umar Kremlev, who is Russian, and brought in the
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Speaker 1: state owned energy supplier Gazprom as its primary sponsor and
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Speaker 1: moved much of the governing body's operations to Russia. This week,
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Speaker 1: the IOC described it as quote a sudden and arbitrary
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Speaker 1: decision by the IBA in which Khalif and Lynn Uting
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Speaker 1: of Taiwan quote were suddenly disqualified without any due process.
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Speaker 1: Lynn was suspended for failing to meet unspecified eligibility requirements
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Speaker 1: in a biochemical test, and it goes on quote the
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Speaker 1: governing body has revealed little about the nature of the test,
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Speaker 1: including what was tested and who tested it. This lack
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Speaker 1: of transparency would be unacceptable in major Olympic sports, and
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Speaker 1: the IBA has been banned from the Olympics since twenty nineteen.
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Speaker 2: Right, So with all of this negativity, many stand in
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Speaker 2: support of Khalif, and according to the AP News article quote,
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Speaker 2: opinions about Kalif's presence in Paris has ranged widely, often
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Speaker 2: directly correlated with the awareness of the news cycle raging
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Speaker 2: outside the athlete's village. Marissa Williamson Pullman of Australia lost
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Speaker 2: to Khalif in the Netherlands last May, and she said
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Speaker 2: Khalif was particularly strong. I did notice it. But you
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Speaker 2: just keep fighting though, don't you. Williamson Pullman said, It's
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Speaker 2: just part of the sport. All you want to do
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Speaker 2: is win, so you just keep chucking punches. Khalif also
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Speaker 2: receives support from peers like Amy Broadhurst, the accomplished Irish
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Speaker 2: amateur who beat Khalif in the twenty twenty two IBA
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Speaker 2: World Championships. Personally, I don't think she's done anything to cheat,
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Speaker 2: Broughdhurst wrote on social media. I think it's the way
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Speaker 2: she's born and that's out of her control. The fact
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Speaker 2: that she has been beaten by nine females before says
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Speaker 2: it all. And yeah, I think that's one of the
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Speaker 2: conversations that I've seen roll around a lot is that
21:09
Speaker 2: no one had any problems with her until she started winning,
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Speaker 2: and they are now all pissed. And again that that
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Speaker 2: article about how the IBA all of a sudden like
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Speaker 2: she won one because she's been in them repeatedly up
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Speaker 2: until twenty twenty three, and they're like, oh wait, you
21:23
Speaker 2: beat somebody, get out. She's she's disqualified because obviously look
21:27
Speaker 2: at her, look at her gender, questioning her gender, which hmm, suspect.
21:32
Speaker 2: So her next opponent, Anna Lukat Hamory from Hungary doesn't
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Speaker 2: seem too concerned, as she was courted as saying, I'm
21:38
Speaker 2: not scared. I don't care about the story or social media.
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Speaker 2: So I think there's a lot to be said about
21:43
Speaker 2: this conversation. I am excited to see her in the
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Speaker 2: next competitions. But yeah, this is an interesting overall commentary
21:52
Speaker 2: that we see often. And the same thing happened with
21:54
Speaker 2: the runners. The track runners are like, they're too fast,
21:57
Speaker 2: so obviously they're doping. They're too quick, so obviously they
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Speaker 2: may be transgender, which is such a okay, try not
22:04
Speaker 2: to get too angry the sports, but in general, the
22:07
Speaker 2: obvious excuses. I just recently I've seen that coaches and
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Speaker 2: different people from different countries saying that they want to
22:15
Speaker 2: change the rules of gymnastics because Simone Biles wins too much.
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Speaker 2: Essentially was that conversation. So I think there has to
22:24
Speaker 2: be something to be noted in being a sore loser.
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Speaker 3: Yeah that's just.
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Speaker 2: Me, I guess anyway. But yes, hopefully Amon is able
22:34
Speaker 2: to protect herself from all this negativity that's happening around
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Speaker 2: her and just able to compete with her heart and
22:41
Speaker 2: go all in.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, who needs this distraction? It's like such
22:45
Speaker 1: a way true energy and time. Right well, speaking of
22:52
Speaker 1: another recent controversy involved typical sexist Marx, and I did
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Speaker 1: tell Samantha I have been texting my friend Katie I've
23:01
Speaker 1: talked about she's been on the show.
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Speaker 3: Random out of context.
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Speaker 1: Remarks I hear when I'm listening to the Olympics. I
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Speaker 1: should go back and see if any of them were sexist.
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Speaker 1: But anyway, there were some sexist remarks made by veteran
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Speaker 1: commentator Bob Ballard during the four by one hundred meter
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Speaker 1: freestyle relay race. Ballard had the audacity to say the
23:25
Speaker 1: Australian team was quote finishing up, adding quote you know
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Speaker 1: what women are like hanging around doing their makeup. He
23:36
Speaker 1: apologized after saying it quote wasn't his intention to upset
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Speaker 1: our belittle anyone. However, it was too late and he
23:46
Speaker 1: was soon removed as a commentator for the Olympics.
23:49
Speaker 2: Right, and like I said, his co commentator, who Lizzie Simmons,
23:54
Speaker 2: I think they were both employed by Eurosports, was They're like,
23:58
Speaker 2: that's outrageous and try to make a joke about how
24:01
Speaker 2: the men do it to, you know, trying to like
24:04
Speaker 2: push passage. But of course, like it didn't work, in
24:09
Speaker 2: which he did have to come on to Twitter as well.
24:11
Speaker 2: Apparently people were harassing her and they're like, leave her alone.
24:14
Speaker 2: She had nothing to do with this essentially, so at
24:16
Speaker 2: least he did that, I guess by the way, he
24:23
Speaker 2: has actually worked with the BBC for a very long time.
24:26
Speaker 2: So the article that we were looking at was a
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Speaker 2: BBC article, and I was like, huh, I wonder they
24:32
Speaker 2: didn't really try to say too much. But I wonder,
24:35
Speaker 2: but this isn't the only time that we are hearing
24:39
Speaker 2: about sexist comments. Apparently, a French radio commentator also decided
24:43
Speaker 2: to add to the misogyny by referencing one of the
24:46
Speaker 2: French doubles women's team as the one that quote does
24:49
Speaker 2: the dishes, she cooks, she mups. It was not a
24:55
Speaker 2: private show, so I think not everyone was able to
24:58
Speaker 2: hear it, but the people who were were like, what
24:59
Speaker 2: the hell, dude, what the hell? Including is the French
25:02
Speaker 2: doubles team. They hurt it and they obviously were very,
25:06
Speaker 2: very offended by this take. I haven't seen any response
25:10
Speaker 2: or any apologies made, so why twenty twenty four, twenty.
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Speaker 1: Twenty four, I have to say I have and I
25:18
Speaker 1: don't know how to feel about this. I don't know
25:20
Speaker 1: that this isn't necessarily a bad thing, but they have
25:22
Speaker 1: been focusing really hard on like past women athletes that
25:26
Speaker 1: are like watching the events they used to do, who
25:29
Speaker 1: have babies, and the way they'll like focus it on
25:33
Speaker 1: like she has a new life now with a baby
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Speaker 1: as all.
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Speaker 2: Why to stop?
25:40
Speaker 1: It's just strange, Like I kind of get it, but
25:42
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't.
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Speaker 3: Need to see all these babies. I'm here for the volleyball, all.
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Speaker 2: Right, as well as the fact that we don't see
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Speaker 2: that often obviously with the men.
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Speaker 1: No, it's so far I have not seen one. I'm
25:56
Speaker 1: not saying it doesn't exist. But I have been watching
25:59
Speaker 1: a lot of Olympics. I have not seen one example
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Speaker 1: of that. It's always women holding a baby and they're like,
26:03
Speaker 1: she had to give up her sport for to go
26:06
Speaker 1: to motherhood.
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Speaker 3: It's like, what she probably was tired, her body was tired,
26:13
Speaker 3: she wanted a baby.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's in the stage of her life and she's happy.
26:16
Speaker 2: This is what we talk about with women's choices. Would
26:19
Speaker 2: you leave her? Be let her enjoy the game. But
26:24
Speaker 2: with that, it's also important that we talk about some
26:25
Speaker 2: of the good things that we see happening in the games. Again,
26:28
Speaker 2: we're going to do a wrap up at the end,
26:29
Speaker 2: talk about more of these events, probably the good and
26:32
Speaker 2: the bad once again. But you know, just for this episode,
26:36
Speaker 2: just a few of the highlights. Again, I have a
26:38
Speaker 2: feeling by the time you listen to this either a
26:40
Speaker 2: really dated or B you're like, why didn't you cover this?
26:44
Speaker 2: Because look, we were writing and getting things done and
26:47
Speaker 2: you know, checking real time is hard. So just recently,
26:52
Speaker 2: the South Korean women's archery team won their tenth consecutive
26:55
Speaker 2: gold medal. The country has won the gold every year
27:00
Speaker 2: since the introduction of the women's team archery competition in
27:03
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty eight, and I saw a lot of jokes
27:06
Speaker 2: which did make me laugh about how yes, if nothing else,
27:10
Speaker 2: South Koreans know how to use a helbow and arrow,
27:12
Speaker 2: and I was like, damn it, I failed. I need
27:15
Speaker 2: to learn an archery.
27:16
Speaker 3: I got a bowner.
27:17
Speaker 2: Okay, let's let's meet up. Le's see how naturally talented
27:20
Speaker 2: I am in my blood.
27:22
Speaker 3: That's right.
27:23
Speaker 2: Well.
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Speaker 1: Laurence Scrugs is the first black American woman to win
27:28
Speaker 1: individual fencing competition. She made US history by winning silver
27:32
Speaker 1: in the women's individual foil fencing. Here's a bit from
27:35
Speaker 1: today dot Com quote. Scrugs became the first Black American
27:39
Speaker 1: woman to win an individual medal in fencing. As Team USA,
27:42
Speaker 1: it took the top two spots. Defending Olympic champion Lee Keefer, thirty,
27:47
Speaker 1: won her second gold medal by defeating Scrugs fifteen to six.
27:51
Speaker 1: In the final quote, it was shocking for me to
27:54
Speaker 1: be here in the first place. I don't even think
27:56
Speaker 1: I've had time to process that, Scruggs told the Team
27:58
Speaker 1: USA website, super grateful to be able to fence in
28:01
Speaker 1: front of such a big crowd and in such a
28:03
Speaker 1: beautiful space. It also marked the first time American women
28:08
Speaker 1: have finished one two in the Olympics in individual foil fencing.
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Speaker 1: Scruggs is hoping her performance might inspire other girls who
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Speaker 1: look like her to give it a try.
28:17
Speaker 2: Fencing is really pretty. That's what I've decided.
28:20
Speaker 3: I've watched a lot of fins that I have.
28:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that is in shooting. We're not talking about
28:28
Speaker 2: the Korean women again, but like the standing that is
28:31
Speaker 2: happening with them is quite hysterical and fun to watch
28:36
Speaker 2: as a tech talk like the fan camed or the
28:39
Speaker 2: fan all of that, like wow eds a fan, Wow, y'all, y'all,
28:46
Speaker 2: y'all are really invested.
28:50
Speaker 3: I did see.
28:52
Speaker 1: It's funny because I keep getting these headlines and I'm like, oh, yeah,
28:55
Speaker 1: I did see that in like real time. Oh but
28:58
Speaker 1: then I find out there like an.
29:01
Speaker 2: Did you have the moment of like yes, I would
29:03
Speaker 2: call her.
29:06
Speaker 3: I No, I did not have that. No, but I
29:09
Speaker 3: remember being like, oh cool. And then there's someone else
29:12
Speaker 3: that really took off.
29:13
Speaker 1: And then I saw I I saw the little girl
29:15
Speaker 1: who like almost passed out.
29:16
Speaker 3: When Katie the DECKI waved at her. Yeah that was great. Yeah,
29:20
Speaker 3: And I saw that before it like went viral and
29:22
Speaker 3: I was like, this.
29:23
Speaker 2: Is super cute. Yes, we haven't talked about this like
29:26
Speaker 2: swimming or anything. I know we'll come back, y'all will
29:29
Speaker 2: come back because I know there's been a lot of
29:31
Speaker 2: like Canada and Australia and the US have been doing
29:35
Speaker 2: some things. Way to go, clap clap, clup, clup clup.
29:39
Speaker 2: We'll come back to it. But yeah, I think it's funny.
29:41
Speaker 2: And are you talking about the Turkish hit man that
29:44
Speaker 2: swearing he's a hit man?
29:47
Speaker 1: It just comes up to me, I like on my
29:48
Speaker 1: Google feet and I was like, I didn't know this
29:51
Speaker 1: took off.
29:53
Speaker 2: Everybody's like he's not even wearing protective eye care like nothing,
29:57
Speaker 2: that he's wearing nothing, and they're like, yeah, he's definitely
29:59
Speaker 2: a professional. Like they're calling way on the real from
30:03
Speaker 2: the okay, oh y'all. So uh. Then we have Christa
30:18
Speaker 2: Degucci who has won the first gold medal in judo
30:21
Speaker 2: for Canada. So here's a bit about her from CBC
30:25
Speaker 2: Dot ca A. The twenty eight year old one Canada's
30:28
Speaker 2: first ever Olympic gold medal in judah with a win
30:31
Speaker 2: over South Korea's Humming Me in the under fifty seven
30:34
Speaker 2: kilogram category at Arena Champ de Mars on Monday. The
30:38
Speaker 2: gold adds to Daguchi's impressive resume. They includes four World
30:42
Speaker 2: championship medals, two gold, one silver, and one bronze. And
30:46
Speaker 2: apparently she was like when she figured out she won,
30:49
Speaker 2: as in fact like to be the first one to
30:51
Speaker 2: win between men and women for Canada. She's like, oh really,
30:54
Speaker 2: I'm number one? Did that cool? Like that was? That
30:58
Speaker 2: was her amazing reaction. So I was like, yeah, yeah, girl,
31:00
Speaker 2: go ahead.
31:01
Speaker 3: I love it. I love it.
31:03
Speaker 1: We also have Nigeria coming out swinging and women's basketball.
31:07
Speaker 1: In their first game for this Olympics, they had their
31:09
Speaker 1: first win in twenty years against Australia. Here's some more
31:13
Speaker 1: information from iafrica dot Com quote. Nigeria's women's basketball team
31:17
Speaker 1: celebrated a landmark victory against Australia in their Olympic opener,
31:22
Speaker 1: marking their first win at the Olympics in twenty years.
31:25
Speaker 1: Team member Amy Akonkwo, who scored thirteen points, emphasized that
31:30
Speaker 1: unity within the team and a determination to overcome adversity
31:34
Speaker 1: were crucial to securing the win. A Zenei Kalu, who
31:37
Speaker 1: had nineteen points in the win highlighted the team's resilience
31:41
Speaker 1: and the desire to prove themselves at the Olympics as
31:44
Speaker 1: factors for the win. This victory follows a difficult period
31:48
Speaker 1: for Nigerian basketball, which included missing the twenty twenty two
31:52
Speaker 1: World Cup due to internal conflicts between the team and
31:55
Speaker 1: the nation's government. The team aims to reach the quarterfinals,
31:59
Speaker 1: something no African country has ever done, and the win
32:02
Speaker 1: will boost their hopes of achieving that goal. However, they
32:07
Speaker 1: did recently lose to France, but they have an upcoming
32:10
Speaker 1: match with Canada.
32:11
Speaker 3: I love hearing all.
32:12
Speaker 1: The specifics when the commentators explain it to me, Amick, Well,
32:15
Speaker 1: it's culplicated, yeah, but yes, yeah, So.
32:19
Speaker 2: Good luck to Nigeria. We're rooting for you. So lastly,
32:21
Speaker 2: we wanted to talk about Haley Batton. Though she didn't
32:24
Speaker 2: win in the Mountain Biking Cross Country Games, she was
32:26
Speaker 2: able to finish second, with the best ever finished for
32:29
Speaker 2: anyone for the US mountain Biking team. But it's not
32:33
Speaker 2: just that, it's the overall women helping women that made
32:36
Speaker 2: the story different. During the race, Baton had the added
32:39
Speaker 2: challenge of a tire puncture, which inevitably caused a huge
32:43
Speaker 2: delay for her. Third place winner, Jenny Reyesvevs actually assisted Baton,
32:48
Speaker 2: and here's a bit from Nbcolympics dot com. I was
32:52
Speaker 2: so lucky that Jenny Rizvez was behind me, Baton said.
32:55
Speaker 2: The writers passed me on the jump when I had
32:57
Speaker 2: to take the bee line, and she quickly shouted out
32:59
Speaker 2: to my mechanic. Haley has a flat so he was ready.
33:03
Speaker 2: It shows how amazing our sport is and what an
33:05
Speaker 2: incredible athlete she is and writer in person. My mechanic
33:09
Speaker 2: did the fastest will change ever and with the support
33:12
Speaker 2: of Wezved, Baton's medal chances went from bleak to hopeful
33:15
Speaker 2: in a matter of seconds. And if you go on
33:17
Speaker 2: to look at the article from Nbcolympics dot Com, you'll
33:21
Speaker 2: see a wonderful picture of the two of them hugging
33:23
Speaker 2: at the finish line. Baton goes on to say more
33:27
Speaker 2: about the support for each other. I think that the
33:30
Speaker 2: most beautiful part of the sport is that you can
33:33
Speaker 2: be on that start line together and I think, honestly,
33:36
Speaker 2: we want to make each other stronger. Baton said, you
33:39
Speaker 2: give your best fight, I'll give my best fight, and
33:41
Speaker 2: you know, the stronger writer will win. I think it
33:44
Speaker 2: makes those battles so much more rewarding when we both
33:47
Speaker 2: put our heart into it and we did it the
33:49
Speaker 2: right way, and she went above and beyond to help me,
33:52
Speaker 2: And how tough it was to get a flat in
33:53
Speaker 2: that moment, especially at the Olympic Games. To make that
33:55
Speaker 2: a little bit easier was incredible. So we love these stories.
33:59
Speaker 2: I do know that Baton did get a fine apparently
34:03
Speaker 2: like five hundred and something dollars because they went to
34:06
Speaker 2: the wrong place to change the higher I guess there's
34:09
Speaker 2: regulations on where you can do this, but they didn't
34:11
Speaker 2: strip her of the metal, so she still went out
34:13
Speaker 2: with a silver. Of course, that conversation went to had
34:16
Speaker 2: she not gotten that puncture, would she have won the
34:20
Speaker 2: doop doope. But with that, it does show her endurance
34:23
Speaker 2: being able to catch up and proceed to getting the
34:26
Speaker 2: silver again. I love stories like this where you see
34:30
Speaker 2: them actually being sportsmen like and not just getting all
34:35
Speaker 2: out about winning. So it was a beautiful story. We
34:38
Speaker 2: had to include that. Love more stories like this. Honestly,
34:41
Speaker 2: the gymnasts watching the gymnasts supporting each other, and I'm
34:44
Speaker 2: talking about from different countries like I've seen like China
34:47
Speaker 2: being No, I have to watch Simone Biles. I have
34:49
Speaker 2: to see what she's doing. I want to get like
34:51
Speaker 2: and honestly, on TikTok, there's so many things about the pins,
34:56
Speaker 2: everybody exchanging their pins and trying to get all of them.
34:59
Speaker 2: It's the cutest thing seen in a long time. It
35:01
Speaker 2: reminds me of your love of the Friendship bracelets and
35:04
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift. So but I was like, Oh, this is
35:07
Speaker 2: really really, really adorable, and I love that all the
35:09
Speaker 2: athletes are really one hundred and ten percent in in
35:12
Speaker 2: trying to collect these pins.
35:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I do.
35:15
Speaker 1: I was actually my friends about it because we were
35:18
Speaker 1: watching the Olympics together and I never like, I want
35:23
Speaker 1: you to fail unless you're complete douche that I know
35:28
Speaker 1: outside of the Olympics, but like, generally I want you
35:33
Speaker 1: to succeed. When I'm watching the gymnastics, I'm like, I
35:35
Speaker 1: know you've worked hard to be here. I want you
35:37
Speaker 1: to succeed. I'm not like hoping you're going to fall.
35:40
Speaker 3: And so I do. I like seeing that too.
35:42
Speaker 1: Within the competitors of you know you do you still
35:47
Speaker 1: want to win, You're going to do your best to win,
35:49
Speaker 1: but you're not like sitting there.
35:53
Speaker 3: Oh, I hope she breaks her life.
35:57
Speaker 2: Oh my god, like nineties speakure skating world.
36:01
Speaker 3: Uh huh, hey, memories, memories. There's been drama, drama, right.
36:10
Speaker 2: And there's a lot of conversations to be had with
36:12
Speaker 2: the good and the bed. We know there's a lot
36:14
Speaker 2: of protests happening, and we support that as well. We
36:17
Speaker 2: know when it comes to events like this that oftentimes
36:20
Speaker 2: the marginalized people's in that community are oftentimes forgotten and
36:26
Speaker 2: or pushed aside purposely. And that's a conversation that always
36:31
Speaker 2: needs to happen because we know how much money this
36:34
Speaker 2: can make a city, which is why they've bit for
36:36
Speaker 2: it or an organization, which we already kind of mentioned,
36:40
Speaker 2: and the fact that none of it really goes back
36:42
Speaker 2: to giving to that community in itself is abhorrent. So
36:46
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot to be talked about. We've
36:48
Speaker 2: talked about this repeatedly and both those things like you
36:51
Speaker 2: want to enjoy this because it does feel like it's
36:54
Speaker 2: something that unice but at the same time, does it
36:57
Speaker 2: is it more greedy than not? Who knows? But having
37:00
Speaker 2: stories that talk about people's heart and love for the
37:04
Speaker 2: competition does feel like it's something to be noted in
37:08
Speaker 2: that we need to recognize the hard work.
37:11
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, absolutely absolutely I did, Like I watched I
37:19
Speaker 1: got to watch the gymnastics All Around final vive.
37:22
Speaker 3: Yesterday, which was cool.
37:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I did like how one of the commentators,
37:25
Speaker 1: who was a woman, she kept saying like, listen, this
37:29
Speaker 1: is so hard, even if you're watching it and you're like, oh,
37:33
Speaker 1: she fell, this is like the hardest thing.
37:36
Speaker 3: I like actually kept reiterating like.
37:39
Speaker 2: Was it Laurie Hernandez, past Olympic competitor who everybody is
37:43
Speaker 2: loving because she has been hired who was a US JO. Yeah, yeah,
37:48
Speaker 2: she might've been hard because she knows absolutely one hundred
37:51
Speaker 2: and ten thousand percent knows the adverts that they are pudding.
37:54
Speaker 2: I also love right now there's a TikTok trend of
37:57
Speaker 2: like people who have dabbled in gymnastic sort do competitions
38:01
Speaker 2: and putting up there like fails and being like the
38:03
Speaker 2: reason I didn't qualify and dives so oh the dives
38:09
Speaker 2: like painful.
38:10
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, the dives.
38:12
Speaker 2: Yes, that's also become a whole like fan fiction trope
38:15
Speaker 2: with a women dive synchronized diving teams.
38:18
Speaker 3: If you think I didn't know that.
38:21
Speaker 2: As like their name and itself just brought out all
38:24
Speaker 2: the puns. But the Chinese synchronized swimmers, there's tails, there's
38:29
Speaker 2: tails all.
38:31
Speaker 1: Well, there are tales, and there are more tales to
38:34
Speaker 1: be told. We'll definitely do a wrap up when the
38:37
Speaker 1: Olympics come to an end it, but in the meantime, please, yeah,
38:41
Speaker 1: if you have any thoughts, if you have anything you
38:44
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38:46
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38:49
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38:51
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