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I CHOOSE ME LIVE BACKSTAGE: Cameron Mathison & Tyler Merritt · I Choose Me with Jennie Garth

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Speaker 1: You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Girl. Welcome
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Speaker 1: back to I Choose Me. I've been inspired and uplifted
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Speaker 1: through this podcast by some of the most incredible people's stories.
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Speaker 1: The two men you'll hear from in this episode, Cameron
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Speaker 1: Matheson and Tyler Merritt, have been through a lot, but
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Speaker 1: their stories aren't defined by the tragedies. They're defined by
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Speaker 1: how they chose to respond. Before we begin, a big
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Speaker 1: thanks to our supporting sponsors HRC Fertility, Mason Pirier and
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Speaker 1: equip Bags. Now let's jump back in with my friend
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Speaker 1: Calina Estrinos as she talks to Tyler Merritt. They have
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Speaker 1: an incredible conversation about Tyler's surprise cancer diagnosis.
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Speaker 2: I found out because I just went and got my
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Speaker 2: kolonoscovie because that's what you're supposed to do at a
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Speaker 2: certain age, and I had no signs, no nothing, and
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Speaker 2: now I'm getting it treated and so thank god I
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Speaker 2: got it taken care of early.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I was about to say, can we talk about that,
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Speaker 3: because I feel like this is huge in so many
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Speaker 3: different communities where people still shy away from going to
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Speaker 3: the doctor, whether it's because they don't have the means
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Speaker 3: to do it, or they just don't think it's going
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Speaker 3: to happen to them. Sure, so can you talk about
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Speaker 3: how important it is in your journey with it.
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Speaker 2: I think fear is legit and real meaning. I have
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Speaker 2: a friend whose father passed away from colon cancer because
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Speaker 2: he had a fear of needles, and so he waited
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Speaker 2: to go. He was afraid to just get his blood drawn,
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Speaker 2: and so he waited until his sixties to get his
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Speaker 2: first colonoscopy and it ended up being the thing that
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Speaker 2: took his life. And it was all because of this
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Speaker 2: fear of needles. So at first I want to say
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Speaker 2: fear is a real, real thing, but I would challenge
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Speaker 2: anybody that I care about to not let that fear
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Speaker 2: from a long life. And that fear can come in
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Speaker 2: multiple different ways. A lot of people just have fear doctors,
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Speaker 2: the fear of the unknown, or the fear of finding
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Speaker 2: out a thing, like some people just don't want to know,
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Speaker 2: like they would rather just not know. But there is
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Speaker 2: a piece that comes and going. I took care of
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Speaker 2: this thing before it got out of control. And then
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Speaker 2: as far as man, we have such a weird health
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Speaker 2: insurance world. I'm lucky enough that I've always had a
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Speaker 2: day job that has had insurance, even though I'm a
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Speaker 2: writer and I'm an actor. But my friends that are
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Speaker 2: actors and performers, they really it's hard for them to
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Speaker 2: get their insurance in line for so many different reasons,
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Speaker 2: like a lot of the rest of the world. But
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Speaker 2: I would press in and say, there are certain things
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Speaker 2: that you have to lean into, whether you're going into
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Speaker 2: an urgent care and paying out of pocket, whether or
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Speaker 2: not you are in the marketplace trying to find things,
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Speaker 2: do something so that you can take care of just
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Speaker 2: your general basic health, because that could be the difference
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Speaker 2: between a shorter life and a longer life. And know
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Speaker 2: that there are those of us that are here that
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Speaker 2: are cheering you on to do that.
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Speaker 3: You know, because you've gone through so much and you're
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Speaker 3: currently going through the treatment right now. What are ways
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Speaker 3: that you stay positive, what are ways that you stay empowered,
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Speaker 3: and what are ways that you make sure you get
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Speaker 3: yourself out of those moments that I know you have
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Speaker 3: sure where you just look at what's going on and
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Speaker 3: just think like, oh man, what can I do?
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Speaker 2: First of all, I get super emotional when I think
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Speaker 2: about this part. But the simple ground based answer. For me.
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Speaker 2: The thing that keisimost encourage is I try to spend
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Speaker 2: as much time as I can with young people because
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Speaker 2: when you see young people, and when I say young people,
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Speaker 2: I'm talking about whether it's my friends like little kids
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Speaker 2: who are you know, three and four and five, or
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Speaker 2: if it's teenagers. You know, I'm fifty, so I'm at
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Speaker 2: what they call like, at least in the black community,
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Speaker 2: unk status status where people are like, what's up unk,
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Speaker 2: And I'm like, man, I hate it, but I know
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Speaker 2: it matters when they're like, yeah, have you heard of
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Speaker 2: this rapper? And I'm like, no, I haven't. I guess
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Speaker 2: I am unk, you know what I mean. Like, that's
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Speaker 2: not real music, you know what I mean. But it's
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Speaker 2: speaking to young people and talking to young people and
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Speaker 2: seeing the hope and faith that they have. I love
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Speaker 2: that so many kids in our community are teenagers right
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Speaker 2: now don't have an issue with the LGBTQ plus community.
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Speaker 2: They don't have issues with people kind of discovering who
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Speaker 2: they are in real time like my generation did. So
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Speaker 2: kind of watching that now inspires me and keeps my
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Speaker 2: head up. It makes me want to continue to move
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Speaker 2: forward because I want to continue to see what kind
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Speaker 2: of beauty these young people are going to ring into
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Speaker 2: the rest of the world that was beautiful.
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Speaker 3: You know, this is all about empowerment, and this is
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Speaker 3: a women's empowerment summit. For I choose me. But why
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Speaker 3: do you think it's important for you to be here today?
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Speaker 3: Why is it important for me men to also have
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Speaker 3: that outlet to feel empowered and to kind of navigate
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Speaker 3: navigate that tape.
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Speaker 2: First, I think it's very important to understand that women
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Speaker 2: do not need us. Let's be very clear, the world
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Speaker 2: would be better if we just let women run it.
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Speaker 2: And I'm not just saying that, I'm just saying that
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Speaker 2: I cannot think as especially as a black man. I
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Speaker 2: can't think of very many situations in my life where
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Speaker 2: if I would have just let a woman run it,
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Speaker 2: it would have been fine. Okay. But with that being said,
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Speaker 2: I think it says more about us as men to
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Speaker 2: take on the responsibility to support women, not because they
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Speaker 2: need it, but because we need to support women because
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Speaker 2: we are nothing without them, and they need to hear
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Speaker 2: that and listen. I would like to say I really would,
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Speaker 2: because it would it would sound good in a book.
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Speaker 2: As being a writer to say that women need us
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Speaker 2: and that's why we need to be there. We are
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Speaker 2: lucky as men to be able to breathe the same
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Speaker 2: air as these women that are changing the world, and
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Speaker 2: we are lucky as men to be able to be
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Speaker 2: in the circle with women that do need some encouragement
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Speaker 2: and to be able to give that. I don't know
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Speaker 2: if it's because, you know, even though I have an
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Speaker 2: incredibly strong father, I don't know if it's because my
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Speaker 2: mother was so strong. But it's an honor to be
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Speaker 2: here today. It's an honor to be in a room
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Speaker 2: full of women that are looking to walk and make
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Speaker 2: their life better and to walk with more strength. It's
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Speaker 2: an honor to think that they would even want myself
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Speaker 2: or Cameron or Ben or vow around at this summit
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Speaker 2: specifically just to just to say, hi, it's beautiful.
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Speaker 3: What do you hope these women take away from today,
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Speaker 3: If there's one thing they could take away from.
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Speaker 2: It, hmm. I hope that they feel seen at the summit.
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Speaker 2: I hope that when they get into their cars and
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Speaker 2: they drive back home or fly home or wherever they
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Speaker 2: go to, they're able to think to themselves, I feel
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Speaker 2: like somebody saw me today, I feel like somebody understood
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Speaker 2: that my place in the world is significant in who
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Speaker 2: I am matters. I think Jenny is doing an incredible
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Speaker 2: job of making sure that that happens today. I just
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Speaker 2: hope that that sticks. I hope that when they wake
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Speaker 2: up tomorrow they can remember today and think to themselves
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Speaker 2: the way that I felt yesterday should extend into my
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Speaker 2: Monday and Tuesday and Wednesday because I was seen on
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Speaker 2: that Saturday.
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Speaker 3: That's beautiful. Thanks Kleina Estrito's backstage at the Women's Empowerment
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Speaker 3: Summit for I Choose Me. I have Cameron Matheson here,
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Speaker 3: Thanks for being here, Thank you for having me. We're
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Speaker 3: so excited to talk to you. And also you're part
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Speaker 3: of the very first mannal Man panel.
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Speaker 4: Yes. For those that didn't get the connection, yes Man
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Speaker 4: panel Manal.
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Speaker 3: How has that been so far? And what was it
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Speaker 3: like for you to know that, you know, they reached
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Speaker 3: out to you to be part of that.
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Speaker 4: Well, it meant a lot to me that that Jenny asked,
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Speaker 4: because you know, we go back and we have an
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Speaker 4: interesting kind of connect we have, you know, we work
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Speaker 4: together many times, and then we also have an interesting
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Speaker 4: connection that we both were in these amazing sort of
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Speaker 4: Eastern psychology philosophy classes but as classes for a while
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Speaker 4: and meditation, and we really connected through that as well.
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Speaker 4: And I guess I technically kind of let her know
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Speaker 4: about them back in the day and she never She
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Speaker 4: really is very grateful for that, and that makes me
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Speaker 4: feel great because I you know, it's just a part
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Speaker 4: of my life, but being here and being part of it.
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Speaker 4: But I thought was an interesting take on a sort
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Speaker 4: of a woman's empowerment kind of day having some dudes
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Speaker 4: show up, and it was helpful for me too to
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Speaker 4: hear Val and Tyler and Ben share their answers and
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Speaker 4: what's happened for them, And yeah, it was, it was.
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Speaker 4: It was meaningful too for myself.
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Speaker 3: Was there something that you learned from that panel yourself
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Speaker 3: that you can take away from from today.
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Speaker 4: I think one of the things is something that Ben
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Speaker 4: talks a lot about in that is male connection. And
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Speaker 4: I know he may try and do that for the
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Speaker 4: younger generations. But at my age, I was married for
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Speaker 4: a very long time, and you know, my I worked
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Speaker 4: very very hard, and so I had my work, and
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Speaker 4: I had my wife, and I had my kids, and
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Speaker 4: I didn't have a lot of social connection other than that.
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Speaker 4: So then when that ended, that marriage ended, I've struggled
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Speaker 4: with that. I've struggled, like and then I've been out dating,
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Speaker 4: so I've been like making female connections per se, but
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Speaker 4: not really spending a lot of time on you know, nursing,
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Speaker 4: nurturing friendships and male relationships. So that's something that was like, Man,
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Speaker 4: I got to step that up.
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Speaker 3: Do you feel like there's been a shift in society
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Speaker 3: to allow men and boys to feel comfortable to have
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Speaker 3: those male relationships and not feel like they have to
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Speaker 3: be so strong get in touch with their emotions.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like the shift maybe that you're alluding to, Like,
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Speaker 4: I think guys have always wanted to hang out and
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Speaker 4: play golf and go on trips and whatever and go
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Speaker 4: you know, who knows what. I think that kind of
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Speaker 4: a guy connection has been socially acceptable for a long time,
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Speaker 4: and I think you're right on some level with the
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Speaker 4: way things have been going in society, and there's more
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Speaker 4: emphasis on connecting a little bit more in a meaningful way.
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Speaker 4: You know, I have friends I've known for a long
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Speaker 4: time that I would love to connect with in you know,
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Speaker 4: a more meaningful way and just sort of really hear
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Speaker 4: how they're doing and what their challenges are and struggles
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Speaker 4: and how they're getting through it, and be there and
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Speaker 4: talk and just you know, that sort of a thing
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Speaker 4: is I think probably more accepted today than it ever was.
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Speaker 4: And I'm not really part of that a circle like that,
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Speaker 4: but I'd.
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Speaker 3: Like to be very nice. Let's talk about things that
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Speaker 3: have been challenging. Wildfires in LA were extremely challenging. You
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Speaker 3: lost your home. I did, Yes, What has been the
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Speaker 3: rebuilding process? What has it been like for you? And
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Speaker 3: how have you been able to keep moving forward?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been really really hard. And I know it's
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Speaker 4: sort of maybe an obvious and boring answer, but it's
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Speaker 4: been harder than I ever would have imagined, harder than
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Speaker 4: you know. I've through the decades, have seen other wildfires
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Speaker 4: take the occasional house here, and they're usually like in
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Speaker 4: LA and you feel horrible, but you don't really know.
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Speaker 4: And with that said, also, different people have different relationships
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Speaker 4: with their home. Some people are renting, some people flip homes.
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Speaker 4: Some people have been there for a few years. Some
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Speaker 4: people have lived in that home and renovated every square
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Speaker 4: inch of that home over decades and have every single
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Speaker 4: piece of existence of their life on earth in that home,
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Speaker 4: and their children were raised there, and everything of their
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Speaker 4: children's life was in that home. And when you lose that,
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Speaker 4: it's very different. And that was our case. So you know,
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Speaker 4: you get a lot of different reactions from people. Oh man,
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Speaker 4: that's tough. Well, it's just stuff. Though at least you're okay,
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Speaker 4: Thank goodness, you're safe. That is one of honestly, just
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Speaker 4: for people listening. Of course, at least we're safe. Of course,
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Speaker 4: it's just you know, on some level stuff. Try not
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Speaker 4: to say that to people because it is so it
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Speaker 4: is one of the most triggering things in my life. Actually,
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Speaker 4: like I'm handling the loss of everything of my life
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Speaker 4: better than I handle those people. That's a funny thing.
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Speaker 4: So just watch that because again, like you don't know,
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Speaker 4: you know, and it's it's so much more than stuff.
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Speaker 4: It's so much there's irreplaceable things, but it's it's not
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Speaker 4: about the stuff at all. It's so tragic and the
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Speaker 4: memories and the house was a part part of our family.
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Speaker 4: And so anyway, all that to say that came after
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Speaker 4: my own life threatening cancer. Then my mom was diagnosed
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Speaker 4: with cancer and lost her life. And then my wife
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Speaker 4: of twenty three years wanted to divorce and left, and
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Speaker 4: then my dog died, and then I lost my house,
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Speaker 4: and so it was like a lot of big things,
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Speaker 4: a lot of loss happened one thing after that, and
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Speaker 4: so the rebuilding process and all that has sort of
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Speaker 4: taken a back seat in many ways. It's the land
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Speaker 4: is still there, and I'm probably just going to move
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Speaker 4: into a different place for a while until we rebuild,
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Speaker 4: until I rebuild with my kids. But there's still tons
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Speaker 4: to be grateful for. And I'm trying to be a
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Speaker 4: positive guy and a resilient guy, and you know, try to,
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Speaker 4: you know, focus on gratitude, focus on compassion. Fifteen thousand
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Speaker 4: families lost, sorts. Things like this are happening around the
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Speaker 4: world all the time, people going through this. So you
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Speaker 4: use your own experience to develop, like, you know, a
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Speaker 4: connection or a compassion for others. And then yeah, just
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Speaker 4: sort of use it as a way to improve myself
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Speaker 4: inwardly as the goals strengthen myself.
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Speaker 3: And you know, you mentioned the rebuilding process when it
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Speaker 3: comes to the home, but you mentioned so many things.
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Speaker 3: I mean, cancer, divorce, your dog, you know, your home,
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Speaker 3: your kids, going to college. Those are a lot of
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Speaker 3: life changing moments that happened to you in your life.
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Speaker 3: So when it comes to rebuilding or possibly restructuring, how
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Speaker 3: are you able to kind of restructure things to make
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Speaker 3: sure you could continue you know, you could move forward,
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Speaker 3: you could stay empowered and true to yourself, also deal
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Speaker 3: with the grief, but also know that you know you
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Speaker 3: still want to put one foot in front of the
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Speaker 3: other moving forward. How did you navigate that?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm still navigating it. And it's a great question,
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Speaker 4: and I think one that I don't really unfortunately probably
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Speaker 4: can't give you like a super great answer because I'm struggling,
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Speaker 4: you know, like it's not it's not easy, it's just not.
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Speaker 4: And I have moments of doing really well, and then
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Speaker 4: I have moments of doing being in a lot of
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Speaker 4: pain and feeling lost and thinking, three years ago I
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Speaker 4: had a beautiful home with a beautiful you know, close
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Speaker 4: wife and beautiful kids and my dog and my like
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Speaker 4: my job I have, I'm also leaving the time I
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Speaker 4: lost my job too, and and then three like it
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Speaker 4: like it just all got it was all God. So
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Speaker 4: there's like this shockingly trans transforming kind of time or
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Speaker 4: the next chapter came very abruptly. And yeah, So to
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Speaker 4: answer your question, though, I feel like in my most
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Speaker 4: I think the main way for me to restructure, the
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Speaker 4: main way to feel like I'm taking steps forward, the
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Speaker 4: main way that i'm I'm I'm i'm it's my responsibility
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Speaker 4: to replace my child, my kid's childhood home too, right,
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Speaker 4: their mom isn't isn't in a place to do that.
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Speaker 4: And so the the main way that I do all
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Speaker 4: of that is by first really deeply accepting what's happened.
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Speaker 4: So even the way I'm talking to you now, there's
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Speaker 4: there's like a level of rejection like this can't all
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Speaker 4: be happening, Like there's no way these things happened. Whenever,
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Speaker 4: well they did. It happened, and you got to accept
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Speaker 4: it patiently and holy and that actually has a very
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Speaker 4: peaceful effect on the mind. And from that space now
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Speaker 4: you can be more solution oriented. Okay, so this did
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Speaker 4: really happen. Man, it's hard to believe, but it did.
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Speaker 4: You know, just accept it, accept it, accept it, accept it.
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Speaker 4: And it doesn't mean I sit back in a corner,
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Speaker 4: curled up in a ball and get beaten up like
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Speaker 4: it you just you know, now I can Okay, so
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Speaker 4: now what? And so I'm looking at buying a new
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Speaker 4: place until i can rebuild. I'm talking to architects about rebuilding.
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Speaker 4: I'm going in the lawsuit against con Edison because they
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Speaker 4: were inadvertently the ones that started the fire. I'm seeing
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Speaker 4: houses and sending videos to my kids because they're very
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Speaker 4: much involved. There's many houses that I would have bought
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Speaker 4: already with that they didn't want. They didn't feel like
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Speaker 4: it was their home, and I'm like, fine, I'm waiting,
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Speaker 4: like we'll do this together. I want, you know. So
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Speaker 4: I'm doing things like that. I'm trying to stay busy
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Speaker 4: with work. On the relationship side. I started dating and
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Speaker 4: getting out there again, and probably a little too much,
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Speaker 4: to be honest, like it was almost a distraction. I
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Speaker 4: wasn't really probably ready for all that. So I'm trying
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Speaker 4: to take more time. I'm going to my classes of
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Speaker 4: meditation and spiritual training and things that can help me
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Speaker 4: feel happy and peaceful. So there's steps I'm taking in
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Speaker 4: the right direction, and then there's many that I take
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Speaker 4: steps back, you know, like you know, but I I uh,
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Speaker 4: it's it. I think the question that you asked is
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Speaker 4: probably good for me to try to answer home alone
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Speaker 4: with a piece of paper, you know, in a quiet time,
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Speaker 4: and and really contemplate and write some things down might
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Speaker 4: be wrong, and then cross them out and try like
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Speaker 4: and really kind of get like a little bit of
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Speaker 4: a like a map as to what some some mixed
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Speaker 4: clear steps are, because right now it feels a little phonetic.
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Speaker 4: It feels a little like I don't know, yeah, where
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Speaker 4: am I on this? And then this gets taken away
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Speaker 4: and you got a new lawsuit and new emails, and
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Speaker 4: then you've got the insurance collectors and then you've got
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Speaker 4: you know, I'm renting right now. But like like it's
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Speaker 4: it's it's just it's crazy. It's whatever you think people
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Speaker 4: like it is logistically, emotionally and financially so crazy. It's
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Speaker 4: crazy when something like this happens and you have like
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Speaker 4: all your eggs in one basket. Right again, if you
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Speaker 4: have all your childhood stuff at home with your parents
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Speaker 4: and you're just renting here, and that's horrible. But it's different,
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Speaker 4: you know, it's different levels. So I'm just kind of
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Speaker 4: I'm just navigating doing my best well.
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Speaker 3: And I know a lot of people use this phrase
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Speaker 3: all the time, but you have to make sure you
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Speaker 3: give yourself some grace too, because that's a lot of
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Speaker 3: stuff back to back to deal with and have to,
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Speaker 3: you know, maneuver through the best way possible. So when
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Speaker 3: you are with yourself present in the moment, what's the
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Speaker 3: one way you choose yourself? Maybe this week? What did
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Speaker 3: you do this week that made you say, you know what,
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Speaker 3: I'm going to choose myself in this moment.
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Speaker 4: It's that's it, Like I knew that that sort of
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Speaker 4: question would come up obviously being here. It's what Jenny's
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Speaker 4: putting out there, and I think it's an amazing thing.
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Speaker 4: And my answer might seem like I'm not choosing myself,
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Speaker 4: but it is the absolute best gift I can give myself.
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Speaker 4: It's the happiest I feel, the most peaceful, I feel
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Speaker 4: the best I sleep, the best version of myself that
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Speaker 4: I can be for others. And that is when m hmm.
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Speaker 4: I I take my inner work very seriously. I do.
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Speaker 4: I try, you know, through different spiritual teachings and meditation classes.
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Speaker 4: Jenny talks about her Buddhism classes all the time. So
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Speaker 4: those are the classes that I, eventually, you know, brought
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Speaker 4: her to and that we go to together. But whatever
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Speaker 4: that means for people. Right. Of course, there's many different
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Speaker 4: faith systems out there, and there's some beautiful teachings in
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Speaker 4: all of them, and I love them all. There's but
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Speaker 4: my teachings are really work well for me. And when
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Speaker 4: I'm so, what does that mean? So that means that
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Speaker 4: I'm watching my mind. I'm training in training and working
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Speaker 4: at reducing negative states of mind like reckgizing and reducing
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Speaker 4: things like anger or attachment and grasping and wanting needing
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Speaker 4: to help me feel better from the outside instead of
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Speaker 4: the inside out. Uh, you know, watching anxiety, watching depression,
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Speaker 4: watching fear, jealousy, all these sort of negative states of mind,
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Speaker 4: and then applying appropriate and effective opponents like learning to
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Speaker 4: love and cherish others, developing compassion, developing patient acceptance, working
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Speaker 4: on gratitude, selflessness. You know, there's there's beautiful virtuous minds
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Speaker 4: that you can replace some of these negativities. So when
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Speaker 4: I'm training in that, and I like to try to
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Speaker 4: train as hard in that as I do on my
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Speaker 4: outer stuff like the body and the gym and the
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Speaker 4: nutrition when I'm but when I'm doing that, it is
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Speaker 4: by far not even close the happiest I am the
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Speaker 4: most peaceful. It gives my life the most meaning. I'm
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Speaker 4: the best version of myself for others, and and that's
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Speaker 4: that's I have. I've been great, Truthfully, in this last year,
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Speaker 4: I've gotten away from that because it's just been a
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Speaker 4: lot logistically crazy and busying. But I'm getting back in
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Speaker 4: and I'm like, oh yeah, oh I forgot. I can
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Speaker 4: actually train my mind like I trained my body, and
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Speaker 4: it's like, it's just so beautiful. And of course I've
22:19
Speaker 4: been doing this for twenty years, so it's silly that
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Speaker 4: I would forget. But I've had some challenging circumstances, so,
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Speaker 4: like you say, I try to give myself grice.
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Speaker 2: Not great that either.
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Speaker 3: Bravos. That was amazing, Thank you.
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. To my kind friends Cameron Matheson
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Speaker 1: and Tyler Merritt, I hope you are as inspired as
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Speaker 1: I am by those conversations. So, you know what, let's
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Speaker 1: all go out there and let's do this. Let's choose ourselves.