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Episode 38: Wizards of Gaming - LEGO "Harry Potter" · Revelio: A Wizarding World Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to episode thirty eight of Revellio four
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  Speaker 1: February nineteenth, twenty twenty six.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Amy, I'm Nicole, and I'm Tom.
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  Speaker 3: Nicole's back yayyy yay, just for one episode and then
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  Speaker 3: I'll be I will not be here the next the
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  Speaker 3: next episode, so I get a another.
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  Speaker 4: Little break from me. I guess. Yeah, glad to be back.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And to today's topic too, because obviously you told us
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  Speaker 5: that you weren't that familiar with the Harry Potter game.
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  Speaker 5: So it's more convenient obviously to have something like you
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  Speaker 5: can you know, bring value to and you know from
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  Speaker 5: your point of view and be like, Okay, yeah, I
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  Speaker 5: think I can, because it happens many times that you're
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  Speaker 5: discussing something it's like like what can I possibly say?
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, But we are continuing today with our discussion
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  Speaker 5: on Harry Potter games. So in this episode we're going
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  Speaker 5: to be discussing the lego Harry Potter games.
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  Speaker 2: But first, listening to.
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  Speaker 4: W W in the Wizarding Wireless Network now for the
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  Speaker 4: latest headlines. So we do have a little bit of
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  Speaker 4: news this episode. So first, if you're following along on
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  Speaker 4: the Audible full cast, audio editions. We're chugging right along
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  Speaker 4: and Dabbled a Fire was released a couple of days ago. Actually,
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  Speaker 4: so we're Yeah, I can't believe that. It seemed like
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  Speaker 4: when we initially talked about it and we mentioned all
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  Speaker 4: the dates and how they were spread out of when
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  Speaker 4: these were going to be releasing, that it just seemed
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  Speaker 4: like so far and here we are already flying at
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  Speaker 4: the halfway Yeah, like the halfway point. Yeah, I'm behind.
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  Speaker 4: I'm still listening through Chamber of Secrets. But yeah, the
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  Speaker 4: good thing is they'll be there forever and to take
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  Speaker 4: your time with. And also Harry Potter Vision of Magic
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  Speaker 4: have announced their next magical destination, which will be Montreal,
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  Speaker 4: which is in Quebec, Canada, So if you are near there.
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  Speaker 4: I've never had the opportunity to go to the Vision
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  Speaker 4: of Magic. I feel like the last place it was
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  Speaker 4: in the States was Chicago. That was maybe the first
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  Speaker 4: location that yeah, maybe the first location they had. But
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  Speaker 4: so I don't know too too much about it, but yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it will be making its way to Canada.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd love to go there. I'd love to seem,
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  Speaker 5: you know, like something very differ friend from the type
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  Speaker 5: of experience that we're used to, like the Forbidden Forest experience,
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  Speaker 5: so hopefully it comes closer. I don't know where it
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  Speaker 5: is in Europe right now, or if it is even anywhere.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think, yeah it's no.
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  Speaker 4: It's I just went to the website and it's in
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if it's currently there or coming there,
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  Speaker 4: but Singapore. So their website has Singapore in montrail.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: But I only missed the Harry Potter exhibition when I
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  Speaker 5: went to Madrid, like by a couple of weeks. So
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  Speaker 5: I was so I was like, oh, I might be
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  Speaker 5: able to go to the Harry Potter exhibition because I
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  Speaker 5: had no idea it was in Madrid. But then I
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  Speaker 5: was like, then I just was there and was checking
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  Speaker 5: the website. I was like the thank you everyone who
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  Speaker 5: joined the exhibition and who visited. We are now closed.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, damn, I missed it. Yeah, but yeah, hopefully,
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  Speaker 5: hopefully soon I get to visit these experiences.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well yeah, hope. I feel like Visions of Magic.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like after Chicago, I feel like it did
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  Speaker 4: leave the States, and I don't know if I'm remembering
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  Speaker 4: right if it went to like Australia or something like it,
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  Speaker 4: I feel like it Dixico or yeah, maybe it was Mexico. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it like did it didn't stay in the States for long.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, this is if you don't know what we're
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  Speaker 4: talking about, it's like an interactive like art experience. So yeah,
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  Speaker 4: hopefully it keeps touring and does well. And yeah, it
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  Speaker 4: looks like this Singapore is like they have on their website.
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  Speaker 4: It's their like premiere in Asia. So yeah, but it
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  Speaker 4: is coming to Canada and yeah, we also learned that
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  Speaker 4: has Bro is going to becoming the global primary toy
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  Speaker 4: licensee for the Harry Potter franchise starting in twenty twenty seven,
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  Speaker 4: and with this partner ship, they will develop a range
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  Speaker 4: of products inspired by both the films and the TV series.
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  Speaker 4: And it looks like this is going to be a
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  Speaker 4: multi year licensing partnership with you know, Warner Brothers Discovery,
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  Speaker 4: and obviously it's coinciding with the HBO series coming out.
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  Speaker 1: So it's interesting because it feels like we haven't really
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  Speaker 1: had like a lot of Harry Potter toys since like
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  Speaker 1: the two thousands. No just Lego really yeah, yeah, who
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  Speaker 1: wasn't in the two thousands? Was it Mattel that had licensing.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like it was.
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  Speaker 4: I think so I was.
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  Speaker 1: I was.
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  Speaker 4: Actually when I saw this story, it made me think, like, well,
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  Speaker 4: who had the licensing before?
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  Speaker 1: I remember like the little like figures they would have,
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  Speaker 1: like the little like doll with like some sort of accessory.
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  Speaker 1: Remember there was like the Ginny Weasley one.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I know. Yeah, I just googled it really quick,
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  Speaker 4: and all it really is mentioned is Hasbro taking over.
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  Speaker 4: I mean there's I think that maybe there's been like
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  Speaker 4: after they had if it was Mattel, I think it
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  Speaker 4: was more just random little like no one hold held,
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  Speaker 4: but like licensing to all of it, because I remember
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  Speaker 4: there was like I think it's a if they're exclusive
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  Speaker 4: to Walmart or if I've just seen them at Walmart.
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  Speaker 4: There's like dolls that are Harry Potter like kind of
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  Speaker 4: like a like Barbie Doll type of doll, and so
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  Speaker 4: obviously whatever, I think they just had like these partnerships
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  Speaker 4: or like these temporary licenses for you know, whatever kind
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  Speaker 4: of product. But yeah, this seems to be the first
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  Speaker 4: time in a very long time that we're going to
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  Speaker 4: have like one company partnering, and it seems more like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: they're obviously to be the primary So I wonder if
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  Speaker 4: you yes, yeah, and those just came out I think
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  Speaker 4: within the last couple of years. And I think there's
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  Speaker 4: like a lot of accessories and stuff for them too.
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  Speaker 4: But hmm yeah, So I guess we'll see. It'll be
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  Speaker 4: interesting to see like more of that stuff come back
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  Speaker 4: on the shelves, and I guess what they come out
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  Speaker 4: with and how they navigate having stuff from the films
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  Speaker 4: and also stuff from the TV show.
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  Speaker 1: What there's Harry Potter, Polly Pockets. Did we know this?
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  Speaker 2: No, like classic Pollypocket?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, like I did see. Isn't there like it's like Hogwarts? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I think they I think, isn't I think it's out now,
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  Speaker 4: Like I think you can get it like Target, Walmart.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I want it. A little sorting hat.
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  Speaker 2: Oh these are really cute.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I just googled it.
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  Speaker 1: It is Oh my gosh, I need.
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  Speaker 4: Forty dollars, which isn't bad, I suppose, but it is
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  Speaker 4: super cute.
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  Speaker 1: There's a little Hogwarts Express train.
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  Speaker 4: Oh well, actually it's on sale right now ab at
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  Speaker 4: because it was originally fifty four to ninety Okay, so
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  Speaker 4: thirty nine is the price.
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  Speaker 1: I do not remember costing that much better. Were not
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  Speaker 1: Were they like, well maybe ten bucks.
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  Speaker 4: Throwing that ip and the price just goes right up.
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  Speaker 4: But no, it's super cute with the oh and I
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  Speaker 4: do love the little attention to detail, like in the
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  Speaker 4: Great Hall, like with even the little like gargoyle statues
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  Speaker 4: on the side and the plates. Yeah it is. It
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  Speaker 4: is really cute. And the cases really cute with a
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  Speaker 4: little wand handle. It's yeah, well, super cute. Well, excited
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  Speaker 4: to see I guess what has Bro does. I don't
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  Speaker 4: know if I'm necessarily in the market of buying like
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  Speaker 4: Harry Potter toys right now unfortunately now that I'm in
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  Speaker 4: my thirties, but excited to see what they what they do.
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  Speaker 4: So next there is going to be a new and
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  Speaker 4: like actually first of its kind, Harry Potter Drone show
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  Speaker 4: that's going to be called Drone Art Show Harry Potter
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  Speaker 4: not a very like creative name, but it gets to
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  Speaker 4: the point of what it is. So this will be
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  Speaker 4: debuting very soon, actually next month in March, but it's
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  Speaker 4: only going to be for three nights from March twenty
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  Speaker 4: six to the twenty eighth, and it's going to be
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  Speaker 4: at the Mirrormar Regional Park in Miramar, Florida, which is
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  Speaker 4: in the Miami area, which I really wish that this
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  Speaker 4: was going to be there February twenty sixth to the
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  Speaker 4: twenty eighth, because I am going to be in the
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  Speaker 4: like Fort Lauderdale, Miami area then, and so it would
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  Speaker 4: have been really nice, but unfortunately it's next month. So look,
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  Speaker 4: this show is described as having around like twelve hundred
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  Speaker 4: synchronized drones. They'll be creating wizarding visuals obviously up in
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  Speaker 4: the air, alongside the iconic music from the films, and
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  Speaker 4: the show time will be about sixty minutes, which is
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  Speaker 4: pretty long for a drone show, and it looks like
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  Speaker 4: guess we'll also receive little led wristbands that will be
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  Speaker 4: synchronized with the drone show as well. So super cool.
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  Speaker 4: And if so, if you're in the area of kind
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  Speaker 4: of southern Florida or you know, anywhere closer there and
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  Speaker 4: can get there, definitely go. I'm hoping that, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I'll have to remember when this is going on so
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  Speaker 4: I can like look on TikTok to see if I
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  Speaker 4: can find some videos of it. But yeah, hopefully this
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  Speaker 4: is successful and it does well, because I could see
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  Speaker 4: if it does well, maybe we'll start to see this
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  Speaker 4: pop up in you know, other cities.
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  Speaker 1: It's a cool idea.
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  Speaker 4: And then lastly, there's just a few kind of like
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  Speaker 4: TV show update things that have kind of been going around.
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  Speaker 4: So the first thing that I saw was that the
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  Speaker 4: CEO and President of Global Streaming and Games for Warner
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  Speaker 4: Brothers Discovery, his name is JB. Perette Parrot. We're terrible
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  Speaker 4: at names here, but he says that the Harry Potter
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  Speaker 4: TV series will be quote the biggest streaming event in
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  Speaker 4: the history of HBO Max and arguably in streaming period.
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  Speaker 4: And he also said that Casey Bloyce, the chairman and
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  Speaker 4: CEO of HBO, doesn't like JB saying this, but he
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  Speaker 4: thinks that it will be the streaming event of the decade.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I believe it.
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  Speaker 4: I do too. They definitely have a lot of confidence
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  Speaker 4: in it, which I think is warranted. I mean, obviously
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  Speaker 4: HBO has put out some like pretty popular series, right,
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  Speaker 4: and I think they definitely like the numbers will have
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  Speaker 4: to rival things like especially I think of Game of
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  Speaker 4: Thrones especially, But I think that I mean, it's Harry Potter.
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  Speaker 1: It's such a huge ip.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I think also too, from like a curiosity standpoint,
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  Speaker 4: like people turn in, tune in when they're curious about
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  Speaker 4: what it will be.
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  Speaker 1: Even people who are kind of mad about it, I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure will contribute to the numbers because they want to know.
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  Speaker 2: I'm still thinking about it.
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  Speaker 4: Tom, But you know you're gonna watch it?
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  Speaker 1: Am I right? Or am I wrong? Like watch it.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it's definitely gonna peak my curiosity. But yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it's uh, this first season at least, I think, will
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  Speaker 5: be huge. But I'm pretty certain the numbers will start
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  Speaker 5: dipping after the first season.
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  Speaker 2: It's just natural.
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  Speaker 1: Because the curiosity will have already been like.
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  Speaker 4: Or I mean, then the numbers could grow if it's
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  Speaker 4: really really good. This is true.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it could happen. But I'm just thinking
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  Speaker 5: about this as you know. It's here's the thing, like,
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  Speaker 5: because other shows like Stranger Things were had this hype
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  Speaker 5: around them, and because obviously you don't you know, there's
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  Speaker 5: this excitement and you know, not knowing what's gonna happen,
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  Speaker 5: and like there's a lot like a lot of the
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  Speaker 5: part that really built up the hype was that you know,
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  Speaker 5: and obviously the ending wasn't really good. But then like,
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  Speaker 5: I think, what what this? I think it's a little
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  Speaker 5: risky to just being calling it the streaming event of
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  Speaker 5: the decade or of it could be the most successful
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  Speaker 5: show of HBO Max of course, But I think it's
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  Speaker 5: just the fact that it's such a known story at
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  Speaker 5: this point and there's no surprise and there's no like, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: just like anticipation for what's going to happen, because we
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  Speaker 5: all know what happens. So I don't know how they're
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  Speaker 5: going to play with that and just be like keeping
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  Speaker 5: people like interested for ten years and just you know, like,
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  Speaker 5: of course the first season does make sense that it's
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  Speaker 5: going to make a lot of numbers because people will
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  Speaker 5: be very curious to see how they handle it and
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  Speaker 5: how everything looks like, and how the characters are interpreted,
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  Speaker 5: and you know, these little like bits that they might
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  Speaker 5: you know, start putting in to fill in the blanks
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  Speaker 5: because there's a lot of time that you're like eight
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  Speaker 5: hours of content. So but then it's like, how is
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  Speaker 5: it going to continue with this ipe being so big?
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  Speaker 4: Well, and I think to that point of like how
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  Speaker 4: how to keep people interested will actually like tie in
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  Speaker 4: a little bit to the next point that I'll make
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  Speaker 4: here in a little bit, But I think that one
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  Speaker 4: thing that it might have going for it in terms
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  Speaker 4: of like I think of, you know, like you mentioned,
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  Speaker 4: like Stranger Things, I think of even again to bring
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  Speaker 4: up Game of Thrones, where over time, the I guess
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  Speaker 4: the way that fans like rated those seasons, like did decree,
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  Speaker 4: like people still came in and watched it. But like
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  Speaker 4: very similarly to Stranger Things, a lot of people really
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  Speaker 4: hated the last season of Game of Thrones, thought they
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  Speaker 4: threw it away. And I think part of what happened
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  Speaker 4: there is like they the first couple seasons are so
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  Speaker 4: great because they worked with the author and they were
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  Speaker 4: really following the source material. And then obviously, like George R.
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  Speaker 4: Martin hasn't finished writing Game of Thrones yet and I
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  Speaker 4: don't think we'll ever actually get the rest of the books.
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  Speaker 4: But then so they got to a point right where
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  Speaker 4: they had to like wrap up the show without having
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  Speaker 4: the source material. There was a lot of tension between
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  Speaker 4: them and George R. Martin, and he started taking a
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  Speaker 4: step you know, or I don't know, he decided to
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  Speaker 4: take a step back, or he was forced to take
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  Speaker 4: a step back whatever happened, he wasn't as involved, and
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  Speaker 4: I think we saw that in the show. We saw
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  Speaker 4: without his source material, without his input, and with the
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  Speaker 4: I almostaid the Duffer brothers though they're stranger things with
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  Speaker 4: the two brothers, they were two brothers. I think too
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  Speaker 4: that did Game of Thrones. You could see they were
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  Speaker 4: then writing it and they were coming up with the
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  Speaker 4: end of the story, and while it was I think
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  Speaker 4: it was still like okay, it wasn't as good as
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  Speaker 4: those first couple of seasons. I think also with Stranger
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  Speaker 4: Things that kind of happened right, where's like we opened
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  Speaker 4: up all these things and then we're like, well, now
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  Speaker 4: we need to finish this, and like we need to
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  Speaker 4: just like hurry rush, kind of finish it. And it
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  Speaker 4: kind of just was like wait, what, Like this was
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  Speaker 4: just a mess when you've had your earlier seasons were great.
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  Speaker 4: I think the thing that's good about Harry Potter is
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  Speaker 4: obviously like to your point of like, we do have
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  Speaker 4: the blueprint already, right, it is a complete series, so.
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  Speaker 1: We do ending you kind of the book, yeah, right,
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  Speaker 1: and they have something to lean on, I guess is
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  Speaker 1: what you know through the whole series.
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  Speaker 4: They don't have to make up their own ending at
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  Speaker 4: the end, you know. And I guess time will tell
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  Speaker 4: to see how long you know, JKR stays on as
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  Speaker 4: a producer and has involvement. But I'm hoping that the
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: fact that they have the whole story laid out in
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  Speaker 4: books for them, wow help.
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  Speaker 1: And this is the first time the films didn't have
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  Speaker 1: that benefit. So I'm kind of curious to see too,
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  Speaker 1: like does that help, Like are they going to be
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  Speaker 1: able to put the correct emphasis on things knowing the
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  Speaker 1: importance of it later on, whereas the movies had some
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  Speaker 1: of those issues where they had to kind of like
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  Speaker 1: quick remedy something later. Yeah, So I'm curious to see
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  Speaker 1: like this because it is gonna be the first time
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  Speaker 1: we'll see that kind of advantage. I guess.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing.
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  Speaker 5: The films did have that level of anticipation and that
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  Speaker 5: like because it was coming out so like one on one,
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  Speaker 5: like the film, a book came out, the film came out,
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: the book came out, the film came out. So there
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: was a lot of people who didn't read the books
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  Speaker 5: and you know, there so they just saw the films
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  Speaker 5: and they didn't know what was going to happen unless
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  Speaker 5: they went online. So there was like this whole Even
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  Speaker 5: in twenty eleven when the last film came out, there
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  Speaker 5: was thousands of people, millions of people that were like,
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  Speaker 5: oh my gosh, this ending, and you know, they were
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  Speaker 5: completely like taken a bat by it. And so in
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  Speaker 5: here it's like, yes, you can add those little elements,
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  Speaker 5: and of course it's going to I think the balls
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  Speaker 5: in their court one percent because they can just include
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  Speaker 5: everything and just make map out the whole, the whole show,
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  Speaker 5: knowing how it ends. So obviously they have a lot
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  Speaker 5: more advantage in that sense. That's what they win, I think.
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  Speaker 5: But they're going to lose a bit of that anticipation
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  Speaker 5: that we had with the previous adaptation, and also you know,
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  Speaker 5: having to prove themselves obviously that you know it's worth
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  Speaker 5: watching and that because like we said, like these films
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  Speaker 5: are incredibly popular to this day. People love them. They're
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  Speaker 5: in theme parks, they're everywhere, and it's very hard to
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  Speaker 5: for people to suddenly, you know, come across this new
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  Speaker 5: adaptation that you know, it's not from something that's been
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  Speaker 5: dormant for some time. You know, you have the Chronicles
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  Speaker 5: of Narnia. It was you know, it didn't even see
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  Speaker 5: its whole run in the films, you know, And same
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  Speaker 5: thing happened with Percy Jackson. So I think again, a
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: lot of people don't read books. They just watch the
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: shows or they watch the films or so it's it's
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: a little complicated to see how that's going to live up.
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: Because yeah, and that's also the issue that I've had
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: with them calling it. I guess obviously it's everything is marketing, right,
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: but like calling it like an original HBO show, I've
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: always had like a little bit of a because it's
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: like it is original because it's HBO in that sense,
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: but it's not a news story, you know. So it's
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: kind of like that's where I have like a little
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: bit of a conflict with what they keep saying. But
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: I mean, of course, like we don't know what's gonna happen,
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: I will tell, But yeah, it's interesting to see how
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: this kind of starts unfolding as we get closer to
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: the release date. It was just you know, a year away,
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: maybe even less.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: So Yeah, I think to the point two of them
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: calling it HBO original too, because that is how they
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: refer to like all of their shows that are like
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: made in house. So obviously, like again to I don't
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: want to keep bringing up Game of Thrones, but that's
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: also considered an HBO original, and I think that they do, yeah,
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: and I think, you know, really they're doing that to
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: distinguish from things that they just have the right to
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: distribute versus something that they're creating for themselves. So I
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: think that hopefully, like that is that's more like why
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: they play into that of like, you know, as HBO,
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: like we're making the show. It's why it's we're calling
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: it original, rather than like this is a thing we
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: came up with. You know, it's still I think, you know,
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: it's still an adaptation. But at least that's my always
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: been my interpretation of like how they use that that slogan.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: I think of yeah, other shows that they get the
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: distribution rights too, but they didn't create themselves. But I mean, yeah,
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: and I guess like to this whole thing we're talking out.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: So the next thing I had here on news was
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: that the actor Lox Pratt, who's going to be playing
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: Draco Malfoy in the series, did like an interview where
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: he teased a bit about how the TV show is
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: going to be showing so much more than the books,
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: and mentioned that we might even get to see like
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: Malfoy manner. As early as season one, Pratt said, quote,
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: you get to see all the teachers in their little rooms.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: You get to see Draco at home. I won't spoil
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: too much about that, but there are some brilliant scenes
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: at home where you start to get an insight into
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: how he is. And I think that you know, to
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: your point, you know, tom of like, how do we
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: keep this interesting and different and get people wanting to
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: come back and watch this when you know we have
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: the books and we have the films. I think we'll
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: probably really play into these kind of moments, right, like
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: not the things that we saw in the films, but
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: the other things from the book that we didn't get
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: to see poor trade and also like these other little
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: side things that we didn't even get to see in
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: the book. I think that that will be their smoking gun,
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: if you know, for lack of a better term, of
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: how they can kind of like really capture people to
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: like stay. And I think like for me, that's like
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: my main driver for I mean, it's Harry Potter. So
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: I'm going to watch any any wishering world content that
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: comes out. But the thing that has me most excited
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: about is seeing those things that we haven't previously seen before,
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: and like what other additions we might get. But I
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: think this quote and this whole thing also like and
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: you'll see, I like added like a million questions that
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: came flooding into my head, you know, is I guess,
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: how do we like feel about this? Right? Like this
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: extra material? Like, do we think that the show writers
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: are just developing it on their own? Do we think
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: that JKR has had any involvement in developing because obviously
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: in the books we don't see in Alfoy just chilling
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: at home, right, so that would be extra stuff? You know?
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: Do we then consider this extra stuff canon? And it's
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: a whole curse Child debate, right and like and do
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: we you know, obviously their biggest marketing thing they're doing
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: here is like, this is going to be a faithful adaptation,
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: and it still can be right when there's exact scenes,
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: But how much is that faithful adaptation marketing challenged when
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: you're gonna start adding in all these other scenes that
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: like weren't even in the book.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a little bit contradictory, but I will
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: say things like this, things like that little tease photo
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: we saw of Nicholas Flamel, like things like that. That's
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: what I want from this. I don't want a recycled
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: version of what we've already seen and what we've already had.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: If you're gonna make some thing like this, it should
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: add to the world and not just regurgitate. So this
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: is what I want. Like, I want extra little things,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: and like obviously I don't want things that are going
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: to feel out of place or like contradict the story
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: we already have, but I want things that are going
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: to kind of fit in alongside the source content that
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: we know so well. And I want to be able
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: to see things that maybe we wouldn't see from the
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: books that are from Harry's perspective.
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: H Yeah, I think that's I do like the part of,
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: you know, seeing the teachers in the rooms and stuff like,
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: I think that's exciting. But at the same time, it's like,
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: how much would we consider all that canon? Because according
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: to the actor who's doing is playing Dumbledore, he said
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: that she's not involved at all, even though she's one
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: of the producers. But he did speak on it because
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: of you know, the trans issue debate, and you know,
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: he weighed in on it and talked about it and said, like,
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: you know, he kind of like balanced it and said, Okay,
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: but the story is really rich and she's not involved
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: in it at all. And I don't know if she
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: said at all, but she he was like, she's pretty
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: much not involved with it. So, I mean, yeah, I
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: don't know how canon this will be or how contradictory.
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: Doesn't have to be contradictory. I think I think all
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: of the video games that came up, like even if
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: it's the card game forgot the name now, but or
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: it could be Hobwart's Mystery or things like that that
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: you know that that stuff it enriches the world.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Is it canon? How canon is it? Well? I think
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: it depends up, you know, to each person.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: You know, people will take the books says canon and
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: maybe nothing that was added into the films, like is
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: you know, the borrow being destroyed in the sixth film Hannon? Well,
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: I mean it depends, you know, to people who love
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: the films. Yeah, to people who you know, hardcore book
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: fans and hate everything that deviates from the storytelling. Uh No,
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: So I guess it just depend on who watches, right.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but yeah, I mean I think it, you know,
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: it is good to hear it, because you know, I
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: do agree. I think I'm more like I'm definitely aligned
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: with kind of like what you had said Amy about
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: like this is kind of like what you know you're
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: looking for, and this is like really, if we're going
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: to redo this, like let's add these things. I think.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: You know, obviously the books are limited in a way
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: by being just from Harry's perspective, right, because you don't
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: get to see Malfoy at home. You don't get to
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: see the teachers in their rooms and stuff like that
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: because Harry is not there, And so you do get
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: to kind of explore that a little bit more in
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: like visual media. And I think actually in the movies,
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: I think the movies were still very much from Harry's perspective,
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: Like I don't think we really got too too much
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: outside of like what Harry was like directly like kind
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: of involved in other than obviously like flashback scenes like
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: I think during you know, like halfwood prints. But I
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: still think very much I see those films through Harry's
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: eyes and Harry's perspective, So yeah, I'll.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Believe very yeah.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think we'll see more of that in
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: the show than we got in the films, because obviously
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: they have the benefit of time, right, Like you can
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: fit you can fit quite a lot into eight hours
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: of Team at.
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: Least the first three books, because after book three, like
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: book four, they're not going to be able to deviate
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: from it at all because it's a very long you know,
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: they were considered to be adapted into two films like
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: Goblet of Fire in the beginning, so it's not going
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: I don't think it's going to be much possible to
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: get that. But for the first few seasons, I think
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: they have that benefit of you know, just including those
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: things that we didn't get to see in the films
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: or or read in the books, which should contribute to
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: people wanting to tune in.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I guess we'll have to see, like what
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: those later seasons look like in terms of like a
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: number of episodes in run time, because I guess if
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: they you know, if the show was really successful and
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: they have the budget to make more episodes for those
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: later seasons, you know, they totally could. I hate that,
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: Like in the last couple of years, Like do you
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: remember like ten years ago when shows used to be
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: like sixteen plus episodes like and then I don't know
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: what happened that. I don't know if it was like
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: part of it. Yeah, I think streaming. I think maybe
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: also like a little bit of like what happened like
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: with COVID and production and now all of a sudden,
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: everything is like six, seven, eight episodes, and it's like
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: we're I'm like, I kind of miss like having twenty
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: episodes in a season. Let's go back to that episodes
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: like you know, yeah, yeah, we just don't do that anymore.
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: And I don't know again, yeah, I don't know if
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: it's a budgeting thing or if Yeah, they just our
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: attention span as a species is going down, and they're like,
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: people are going to fall off if we do twenty
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: episodes of a season. But you know, they definitely like
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: have the possibility to make those, you know, we don't.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: You know, you don't need nothing. There's no playbook anywhere
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: that says you can only do eight episodes and eight
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: episodes only, So maybe you know, those later seasons, will
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: we see more like ten episodes, eleven episodes, twelve episodes
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: to be able to tell the story but also give
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: room for them to like breathe a little bit, because
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: I think, yeah, seeing those things that Harry is not
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: there for but a part are the story and vital
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: to the story is really exciting, and things that we
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: know happened but just you know, Harry wasn't there for,
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: so I guess we'll see.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Like Prisoner of Azkaban, I would be real curious to
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: see some scenes inside ask in prison.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: Mm hmmm.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: I think that'd be kind of cool.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: Or even Seriu Seiri that was me. That was me
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: combining serious and seeing, but even seeing serious like breakout
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: and that whole thing right like that would make such
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: good television. And I'm sure I could totally see us
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: seeing something like that. So yeah, I don't know. I mean,
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: I stay excited for it. I completely understand your reservations, Tom,
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: because I think I do. I think I have reservations too,
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: but I try to like gaslight myself into thinking I'm
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: so excited for this. I don't have any reservations, but
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: but the deep down, I do, you know.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but uh, to go with.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Our main discussion theme for this episode, everything is awesome.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: That's going on in the movie. Yeah, yes, yes, I'm
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: trying to think positively, but yeah, I mean either way,
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: I am somebody who like I'm definitely like ready to
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: be very critical you know, of the show, but like
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: I am still excited. And I do think every time
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: we get these little teasers in these little bits, like
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: it does add to my you know, excitement and like
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: you know, as a as a big fan of Malfoy,
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: like it's excited for me to hear that maybe we'll
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: get more Draco in the show than we got, you know,
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: in the films. It's like what Tom had like thirty
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: minutes or something like that of total run time in
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: the movies. Yeah, and would love to see more about
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: the dynamic at home you don't think of our Malfoy
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: episode and we talked about them, like I'd love to
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: see that dynamic at home, like, but at the same time,
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: I don't want to see it because like, are we
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: going to see like Dobby like earlier and like see
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: the dynamic with Dobby And I don't know why I
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: can handle.
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: That or are they looking like to give Great Go
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: his arc of redemption from the get go and kind
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: of like being like taking a little bit of pins, like, yeah,
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: like what are they trying because Malfo in the first year,
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: So yeah, and you're not supposed to feel bad for him,
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: You're you're supposed to you know, So that's risky if
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: you change that, if you kind of like start putting
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: these It's very common in series today. You know, everything
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: is very like, you know, light hearted, and it's very
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: like everyone's good and no one's you know, no one's evil,
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: and and so I don't know, maybe it's just a
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: little you know, maybe it's less like really small scenes
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: of the kids receiving their letters. It's not probably going
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: to be a whole episode on Malfoy matter, But I'm guessing, like, yeah,
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: what wonder what they might want to do without what
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: do you what they think adds value more than just
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: filling in the blanks, if it really adds value to
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: the story, or if it's going to contradict it to
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: a certain degree.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: But we'll see.
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think that they can still
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: show him like being a prick and also show kind
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: of why he is, you know, like kind.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Of we already kind of get that a little bit
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: in the books.
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, just the way his father kind of talks to him,
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: and the way like Harry observes, like their interactions. I think,
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: like especially you know, during the scene in Borgan and Burkes,
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: like when obviously Harry's there hiding and they don't know
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: he's there, and he's kind of I feel like that's
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: the first time he really is like observing Draco, like
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: with his father. I could see it being moments like that,
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: but I don't think it takes away from like Draco es. Yeah,
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: absolutely being a menace in those at the beginning, but
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: maybe getting a better understanding of like why he became
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: such a menace. See. I love a villain story, right,
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: and I love the backstory of the villain and how
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: they get to become a villain and what made their
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: villain moment. I think they're much more I've talked about
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: this before. I think there's so much more like interesting
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: than heroes, you know. But that's why I like Harry
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: so much, because he's a hero with like a tragic backstory.
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: A lot of heroes don't necessarily have a tragic backstory.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: They just rise to being a hero. So yeah, either way,
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: I'm excited and yeah, but other than that, it's been
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: I think kind of quiet on the show front because
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: I think obviously they've transitioned more to filming inside. I
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: did see a story that talked about some Dumbledore office
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: portrait people that have been confirmed. So I think we'll
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: also get to see more scenes like of Dumbledore, like
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: in his office, which will be really nice. Maybe that's
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: what Locks is referring to. Hear of like the teachers
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: in their little rooms. Not that I think Dumbledore's room
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: is little, but but I think we'll get to see, Uh,
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: that'd be really interesting to see him, like, you know,
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: having conversations with the portraits. And Yeah, so that's what's
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: going on.
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• 35:27
  Speaker 5: So for today's main discussion, like we anticipated the beginning
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: of the show, we're going to be diving into the
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: Lego Harry Potter Games, which, for those of you who
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: don't know, is an extensive compendium of Harry Potter books
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: and films, and it's divided into two chapters, so one
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: of it it's Lego Harry Potter's Year one to four,
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: and then it's Lego Harry Potter Years five to seven.
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: Very straightforward, again, just going straight to the point with
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: the titles, and yeah, it's heavily inspired by the films,
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: creating iconic and pivotal moments from all eight movies while
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: still capturing that broader world building that the books gave us.
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: So before we start talking about it, like I wanted
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: to know, like your general thoughts of it, you know,
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: of the games as a whole, Like what do you think,
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: what are your memories of it?
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: I remember getting this for my Wii way back in
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: two thousand and nine or whenever it was, Yeah, spending
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: like hours working on this, trying to complete all of
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: the wizard level thing and then like the the Hogwarts
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Crest try and get all my little pieces. Mm hmm.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Was that good on the Wii?
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, it worked really well on the way. Yeah,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: I remember it was kind of actually easier I think,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: to like be able to point at things he had
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: to cast spells on because you would just use the
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: because it was like the Wand with the nun Chuck,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: and like you would use the wand to point out
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: what you wanted to point at. So it was a
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: little easier than like other consoles and trying to target
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: where you're shooting the spells. But yeah, for some reason,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: I just have a very vivid memory of sitting in
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: my butterfly chair in the basement, the only piece of
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: furniture in the basement, and like I had hoarded a
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: bunch of those like Nutter butter snacks, the cookies, and
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: they're like in the pocket of my chair. I'd just
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: be playing like Harry Potter eating my Nutter butters.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: How about you, Nicole.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: I feel like I don't remember if I almost think
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: I didn't. Lego Harry Potter was not the first Lego
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: video game that I played. I don't think I am
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: a big fan of the Lego video games in general,
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: Like I think the very first I think maybe the
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: very first Lego game I had was Lord of the
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: Rings for like my twods, and I've played like Marvel
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: like I've played a lot of them. I think I
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: finally got Lego Harry Potter when I got my switch.
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: That might have been the first time. I actually think
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: even before that, I may have had like the iPad
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: version of it. I feel I remember that and I think, yeah,
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: I think that was the first version I had of it,
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: and that was the first the first way I played it,
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: and I didn't really get into it, I think because
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: like the iPad version was not the best, like like
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: having to like you know, drag your finger because like
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: at the time, I didn't have like, you know, of
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: video game controller hooked up to my iPad. I was
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: literally like doing it all with my finger, and it
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: just is not the best user experience. And so I
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: think I like wanted to play and I was so
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: excited by it, but I like fell off just because
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: of the mode. And then once they released it in
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: one game for the Switch, I repurchased it for the
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: Switch and I thought the experience of playing it on
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: the switch was so much better. And I think like
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: Lego games in general just work really really well as
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: handheld games. I do have a Lego game for I
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: had a Star Wars Lego game for my PlayStation four,
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: and again, again, I still think it's so much better
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: on the handheld than you know, on the big screen.
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: But I just think that the I definitely think the
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: Lego games are probably not for everyone, right, Like, if
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: you're like a hardcore gamer, like you're probably not gonna
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: love them because they're very silly, right, They're meant to
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: be fun, and like they're really good for children, like
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: if for if you know, if like if children want
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: to get into like Harry Potter video games, I think
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: Lego is a really good, you know, segue for them
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: before like jumping straight to something like Hogwarts Legacy, right, Like,
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: the Lego games are a better I think that if
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: you just it's yeah, I just I think they're really
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: fun and really silly, but in such a good way,
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: and they're really fun to like go back to. I
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: think they have a really good like replayability to them
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: as well, just because of like how you know, cute
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: they are. And it's also not like it doesn't feel
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: so high stakes like I think of, you know, I
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: think of like some RPG games where you're like, I'm
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: about to be like murdered by this boss that's coming
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: at me, and like you don't really have to, I mean,
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: you do, you know you your Lego's pieces break apart,
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: and how you like how you die. Yeah, but even
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: that's funny, right, You're not like, it's not making like
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: you dying in the game isn't scary. It's like a funny.
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: Thing and it's yes, and we're going to dive into
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: that part as well, the comedic aspect of it, because
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: I think it's one of the major highlights these games have.
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: They just you know, make you laugh and have a
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: good time and kind of like take away a little
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: bit of that seriousness attached to the series. So yeah,
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: so a little bit about how it all began. There's
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: not much backstory on it, but basically, like rumors started
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: happening in two thousand and eight, then there were leaks
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: the following year, and.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: Warner Brothers confirmed the title in mid two thousand and
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: nine for a twenty ten lunch launch. So yeah.
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: The first Harry Potter game, Lego Harry Potter Years One
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: to four, was released in June twenty ten, so it
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: was first released in the UK and then in the US,
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: and it later got platform specific releases as well, including
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: a delayed esp version in August twenty ten and a
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: Mac version in February twenty eleven, and then the follow
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: up to it, Lego Harry Potter Years five to seven
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: was released on November eleven, twenty eleven, in the US,
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: and on November eighteenth in Europe. So that's kind of
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: like a bit of a you know, band between the
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: US release and Europe. Well only a few days, but yeah, still, like,
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: you know, it looks kind of like a little old
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: school when things were released like two weeks from apart,
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: you know, like now everything is so instant, like you
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: get global releases for everything. And a bit about the developers.
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: It was developed by Travelers Tales aka t T Games
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: and published by Warner Brothers Interactive. So something that these
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: Lego Harry Potter games did is that they kind of
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: saved Lego Harry Potter as a franchise. So going back
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: in time, we are in the year two thousand and nine,
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: twenty ten. You know, the Harry Potter sets hadn't been
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: as lively as they had in the past, and they
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: were starting to go down on sales and just you
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: know the variety, so they weren't at the you know,
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: cusp of popularity at that time. But these games really
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: helped spark renewed interest in both the game series and
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: the physical sets, and then came this boom of Lego
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: sets that we know today to this day. So you know,
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: we really should be giving these games more credit than
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: than that, because I didn't know this back actually, like
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: I wasn't really much paying attention to Lego at that time.
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: So but it's cool to see how, you know, when
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: you do something right and you put you know, in
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: the effort and and just pull the strings the way
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: you're supposed to, you can have like this huge market
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: that's going to bring you decades of revenue after it.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: I was just looking up too, because I was kind
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: of curious about like the history of Lego games in general.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: So obviously there were Lego video games in like the nineties.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: It looks like nineteen ninety five there was one. But yeah,
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: the Lego Star Wars, like Nicole mentioned, was the first
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: of these like Lego and IP kind of games, and
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: that was two thousand and five. So Lego Harry Potter
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: came out about five years after they started doing this
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: like film franchise IP Lego thing that they're doing there.
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well it's interesting about that too because I think
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: that in the like kind of I say recent years,
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: but like when I say recent years, I time is weird, right,
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: So I'm I don't mean the last couple of years.
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: I probably mean the twenty years, ten years, right, Like yeah,
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: nineteen ninety five was yesterday, right, Yeah, yeah, that kind
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: of thing. But I think about how because I actually didn't.
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: And it's so funny because I'm like, I can see
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: my game stacks from here, but I can't see what
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: I have. I can't remember exactly which Lego games I
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: had on the DS. I can't remember if I think,
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: I don't know if I had that Star Wars one
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: on my DS, but I do know that I did
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: repurchase it for my Switch when they re got the
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: word is escaping me like reimagined rework, like yeah, when
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: they like, you know, clean up the graphics, remastered that. Yeah,
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: And so I think. But my point of this is
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: that I think that the you know, it's interesting to
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: hear how long the Lego games have actually been around,
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: but there's obviously still some level of popularity there or
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: desire for them for them to reput out, because even like,
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure technically when and Lego Harry Potter got,
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: I guess it was technically also a remaster when it
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: was released for like newer systems, and when they kind
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: of combined it, you could get it in one pack.
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: I do think that was technically considered a remastered edition
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: as well, with like updated graphics and stuff. I could
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: be wrong, but I feel like it was marketed that
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: way as well.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it was.
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it was the release on Switch and
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: it was like kind of like updated. But I think
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: the official quote unquote remake happened last year when they
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: re released the games, so it's kind of it's obviously
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: the same game, but I think they did some tweaks
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: to some of the graphics stuff, And I haven't played
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: that updated version, but it's pretty much the same.
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: But yeah, but I think it's just interesting that like they,
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: you know, to even to go back and remaster a
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: game obviously shows that there's some kind of popularity there.
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: I think obviously it helps that it's like IP driven too, right,
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: Like I think those games that we're seeing them go
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: back and master are a lot of IP But I'm
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: also like excited that they do that because I think
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: it brings more people into playing them. Like, you know,
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: because if a game came out, I don't know, twenty
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: years ago and unless you're really big into gaming and
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: you're like I want to collect older games, like it
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: might be something that passes you by, but when they
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: decide to remaster and re release these things for newer,
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: updated systems, Like I'm sure there's a lot of people
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: that play Lego Harry Potter now that like did not
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: play it back when it, you know, initially came out.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: So I think too, like just the general look of
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: these games helps its longevity, and that like it's very
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: it's legos, so it's like simple in its makeup, and
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: it's built and like everything's Lego, so it's blocks, right,
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: So it doesn't end up looking outdated because it's supposed
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: to look like Lego blocks. It was like more simplistic
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: and that's okay because that's what it's supposed to be,
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: which I think helps a lot. So there's probably not
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: a ton of remastering necessarily, in like the graphics themselves
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: is probably just more and like making it.
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: Like yeah, but I think they did such a nice
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: work with the graphic part because it's partly it's Lego
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: and it's literally like Lego pieces, but then part of
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: it it's like actual three D environments, so it's not
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: a it's not a Hogwarts built out of lego. It's
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: not like the Hogwarts set that you see that they
• 48:39
  Speaker 5: that it's on the market. It's actually like a video
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: game version of Hogwarts. But they do put like lego
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: objects and things and cabinets and different elements. Of course,
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: the students and teachers and all the characters, everything is lego,
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: but a lot of it is also part of that
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: three D environment that is you know, I think it's
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: great because it kind of like it just lures you
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: in a bit more and it's more immersive, and I
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: really love how they played with that aspect as well.
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: So a little bit into the playability and game mechanics
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: of these games. So if we're talking about levels, it
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: features a total of twenty four main story levels per game,
• 49:27
  Speaker 5: which with six levels for each of the years, with
• 49:30
  Speaker 5: Deathly Hollows getting a total of twelve level levels for
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: Deathly Hollows Part one and Deathly Halls Part two respectively.
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: I never counted them, so this is something that I,
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: you know, pulled out of the archives and I was like, oh,
• 49:43
  Speaker 5: I didn't know it was at like actually like six
• 49:45
  Speaker 5: levels per year. So that was interesting because to me,
• 49:48
  Speaker 5: it was like a lot more. But no, I guess
• 49:51
  Speaker 5: it's been a while since I played them, but it
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: does seem like a complete year, you know what I mean,
• 49:57
  Speaker 5: Like it didn't seem like you were just sing little bits.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: Of of of the respective year you were at.
• 50:05
  Speaker 5: But it just I don't know if it was because
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: of the cut scenes as well that were really you know,
• 50:11
  Speaker 5: really well integrated into the into the game. But yeah,
• 50:15
  Speaker 5: they did a really good job with it. And you
• 50:19
  Speaker 5: know a lot of what makes these games, you know,
• 50:24
  Speaker 5: really good at what they're what they do. It's a
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: split screen co op, which, like we discussed in our
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: previous episode, was something lacking in most of and for
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: the most part of the original games.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: So you know, here you can just have two players
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: at the.
• 50:38
  Speaker 5: Same time you're working doing you know, one is you know,
• 50:43
  Speaker 5: casting a spell while the other is fetching something for
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: you or is exploring, and uh, it's it's a lot
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: of fun, it seems, you know. It's the way they
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: split the screen is very intuitive in the sense that
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: it's not a it's not a fixed screen, but it's
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: it kind of like moves as you kind of like
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: explore and and move around so I think that's a
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: very uh, it's a very interesting because that's one of
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: the things of co op that you're like, I don't
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: know if it's gonna work, but it does work, and
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: it's you know, kind of seamless and you don't really
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: you're not paying that much attention to the what the
• 51:16
  Speaker 5: other person's doing.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if I remember correctly, too, Like you can go
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: in and out of two player modes, so like within
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: the same play through of the game, you could have
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: started a solo and then have someone hop in with
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: you for a level and then hop out and then
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: like continue solo. So it wasn't like you'd have to
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: like start a full new game to do two Playerhi
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: was nice.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: I also played the Jurassic Park lego with my boyfriend
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: a few months ago, and it was a lot of fun.
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: And we did the whole split screen thing, and I would,
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: like you said, I would hop on and off, you know,
• 51:55
  Speaker 5: depending on on what was needed at the time.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it's it's a lot of fun.
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: It's really it's a it brings a new you know,
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: a new spice into the gameplay aspect of these games
• 52:08
  Speaker 5: as a whole. And speaking of this, each character has
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: their own special ability, so you can find yourself switching
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: between Harry, Ron, and Hermione quite often in the levels,
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: so you know Hermione obviously, you know. It's kind of
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: like the puzzle solving thinker uh and then Ron for example,
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: in the first three years, he uses scabbers to travel
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: through pipes and unlock doors or fetch important objects, and
• 52:35
  Speaker 5: Harry is kind of like the all round lead in
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: most combat and story progression, including also specific levels that
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: require the use of the invisibility cloak. So just like
• 52:46
  Speaker 5: in the original games, they you know, like we talked
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: about in back when they release Prisoner of Azkaban, they
• 52:52
  Speaker 5: all have like their ability and you kind of like
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: feel a little bit of that nostalgic, you know thing
• 52:58
  Speaker 5: when you know you're reminisces about playing the old games
• 53:02
  Speaker 5: and you're like, oh, I can switch back between the
• 53:04
  Speaker 5: three of them at you know, at will and just
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: you know, use them according to what you know the
• 53:11
  Speaker 5: mission needs to that in that specific moment. So I
• 53:15
  Speaker 5: think that was also a very fun, fun way of mechanics,
• 53:23
  Speaker 5: and unlike some of the original Harry Potter tying games
• 53:26
  Speaker 5: that we discussed, which often restricted exploration and free roaming.
• 53:31
  Speaker 5: The Lego titles encourage meandering through hub areas mainly Hogwarts
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: and diagon Alley, plus transitional spaces like station sections and
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: the Deathly Hollows Campsite Hub while you know you're solving puzzles,
• 53:45
  Speaker 5: assembling objects, collecting large number of studs. And for those
• 53:50
  Speaker 5: of you who are unfamiliar with this, which I also
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: didn't know, studs are the primary coin like currency and
• 53:56
  Speaker 5: almost all TD game like Lego titles, and they're used
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: to unlock characters, bells, and ability. So it's the little
• 54:05
  Speaker 5: coins and you know, things that you you think come
• 54:07
  Speaker 5: across its like tokens and you collect just because it's
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: like Mario when you go and you like.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: Collect as many coins as you can.
• 54:16
  Speaker 5: But this is really this is actually a great accounting
• 54:20
  Speaker 5: because it kind of like allows you to replay it
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: just to collect more because the more you play it
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: and the more the higher you score, the more things
• 54:27
  Speaker 5: you unlock or characters or it's just a lot of
• 54:33
  Speaker 5: fun because you know it has that little like you know,
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: even though it's six levels, they do have like like
• 54:39
  Speaker 5: you said, Nicole, that replay value just to keep getting
• 54:42
  Speaker 5: better at it and just you know, like the old
• 54:43
  Speaker 5: Mario games.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and some of them you have to go back
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: and replay later to complete your Hogwarts Crest. Yeah, you
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: if you play through it the first time and you
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: haven't unlocked certain characters, there's pieces that you might not
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: be to do that level yet, but later, once you
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: unlock somebody, you can go back and do it again.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm hmmm. Yeah.
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: So, and now that you mentioned that, I remember the
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: music at the end of the mission, and which is
• 55:15
  Speaker 5: the kind of I think it's a quidditch one.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: From the first film.
• 55:19
  Speaker 5: And something that I didn't add to this document but
• 55:21
  Speaker 5: I wanted to mention is I love the soundtrack because
• 55:24
  Speaker 5: it's all coming from the films, and they usually use
• 55:28
  Speaker 5: film specific scores for the year you're currently in. So
• 55:31
  Speaker 5: you're going to be hearing some Prison of Azkavat music
• 55:33
  Speaker 5: when you're in year three, going to be hearing, you know,
• 55:36
  Speaker 5: Sorcerer's Stone when you're in your first year, and it
• 55:39
  Speaker 5: just really brings this kind of like nostalgic vibe to
• 55:41
  Speaker 5: the game that it's really nice. And you know, instead
• 55:44
  Speaker 5: of having its own soundtrack the way the Harry Potter
• 55:46
  Speaker 5: games did, the way Hogwarts Legacy does they really said,
• 55:50
  Speaker 5: let's just you know, make use of these soundtrack and
• 55:53
  Speaker 5: just you know, play along, and it works really well.
• 55:57
  Speaker 5: It just really immerses you so much more into to
• 56:00
  Speaker 5: the whole environment.
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: That kind of makes sense too, because you're like really
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: just kind of playing through the movie, right, m hm.
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: And so I mean it it would have been I
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: would have been interested to see though, if they had
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: created their own score, like what it would sound like,
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: especially like being like this kind of like, I don't know, silly, funny, unhinged,
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: tongue in cheek kind of game like what they would
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: have come up with. But but yeah, I agree that
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: I think using the film scores works well for it.
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah. Some would call it lazy that they
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: didn't do their.
• 56:37
  Speaker 5: Own soundtrack, but I think they do it for all
• 56:39
  Speaker 5: of their games, right, I think it's I think for
• 56:43
  Speaker 5: Jurassic Park it's the same. So they kind of like
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: film scores and Star Wars I imagine too the same.
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think that, like, ultimately, I think what's
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: really great about the Lego games from like I guess
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: a sound design perspective is not even like just the music,
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: but all the other sounds like, yeah, the sounds that
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: like the characters kind of make the sounds of like
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: destroying all the legos and everything like that. I think
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: that's really like their sound design bread and butter that
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: So it's like, I think they should focus on that
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: more so than they should focus on having to create, you.
• 57:14
  Speaker 5: Know, absolutely a new score. Yeah, yeah, definitely. So speaking
• 57:20
  Speaker 5: of unlockables, the game is stocked with those, so you
• 57:23
  Speaker 5: have a massive character roster, from students to staff to
• 57:28
  Speaker 5: death beaters, ministry figures, ghost creatures, muggles. There is a
• 57:32
  Speaker 5: total of one hundred and sixty seven playable characters for
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: the first four years, and there's two hundred four years
• 57:39
  Speaker 5: five to seven with a combined total of three hundred
• 57:41
  Speaker 5: and sixty seven characters. So that's a big roster. And
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: some of them are unlucked wise while completing the story mode,
• 57:49
  Speaker 5: and the rest are hidden elsewhere throughout the game. So
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: that also brings a little bit more of that replay
• 57:54
  Speaker 5: value to it because you kind of like want to
• 57:56
  Speaker 5: go back to it just to unlock certain characters. And
• 57:59
  Speaker 5: it's fun because I've even watched one that's spell a Trick.
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: You're playing a spellatrix and it's it's great, Like it's
• 58:06
  Speaker 5: it's a lot of fun to just kind of like,
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: you know, get into another character shooes and just you know,
• 58:12
  Speaker 5: play from their perspective as well. And yeah, that's a
• 58:17
  Speaker 5: lot of fun. I think they do that with again
• 58:19
  Speaker 5: with all of their games. It's part of like their
• 58:21
  Speaker 5: bread and butter, and it seems to work because people
• 58:25
  Speaker 5: love to you know, the more characters they have to
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: choose from, the more engaged they are with the gameplay.
• 58:34
  Speaker 5: So some of the spell categories include obviously the spells
• 58:37
  Speaker 5: that you're taught in classes. So each class when you
• 58:41
  Speaker 5: learn something, there's always this obstacle or something that happens
• 58:44
  Speaker 5: in the class that's usually comical and so you know
• 58:49
  Speaker 5: you have to to pass that level. Instead of having
• 58:53
  Speaker 5: like challenges like you had in the video games, there's
• 58:55
  Speaker 5: like this thing that happens, this event that you have
• 58:58
  Speaker 5: to solve and that's how master the spell. But you
• 59:01
  Speaker 5: can also purchase spells and you can also learn dark magic,
• 59:07
  Speaker 5: so yeah, and some of the other abilities that are
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: included are obviously you know, the invisibility cloak, turning into
• 59:14
  Speaker 5: and in amagi parcel tongue, goblin keys, Mandred handling the
• 59:19
  Speaker 5: time turner use, and more so, it's very complete. That's
• 59:24
  Speaker 5: why I say, you know, I like to talk about
• 59:25
  Speaker 5: it as a compendium because it's very like it has
• 59:28
  Speaker 5: all of the elements that you love from you know,
• 59:31
  Speaker 5: the story, but in one game, and it's not restricted
• 59:35
  Speaker 5: to the play you know, to a specific game like
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: you had in the first tie in games that you
• 59:41
  Speaker 5: have like these elements and these mechanics and these kind
• 59:44
  Speaker 5: of like things that were very exclusive to that particular game.
• 59:48
  Speaker 5: Here's kind of like you have it all in one
• 59:50
  Speaker 5: single in one single title. So that's also really cool.
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think there's so many layers in this
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: game that, like you said, it's just it's something you
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: can play for a really long time, especially with it
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: being technically two separate games but now in one package.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 5: And something that you know, we we already touched on before,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 5: but it's you know, has to do with the comedic tone.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 5: So it really nails it by taking kind of like
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 5: the darker events of the story and it translates them
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 5: into more affectionate, family friendly slapstick you know, moments through
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 5: visual gags or exaggerated character reactions and that you know,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 5: classic we were talking about this is the classic near silent
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 5: Lego storytelling style. We're kind of like, the closest you're
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 5: going to get to a spoken word is a grunt.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 5: You're probably gonna get m mmm. And I absolutely adored that.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 5: I thought it was super cute and so funny. So
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 5: it does feel funny, but it doesn't take away from
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 5: the story, so it's not being it's not mocking the story,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 5: but it kind of like parodies iconic moments and keeps
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 5: that humor, that humor intact while flying through these kind
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 5: of like more darker heavy scenes and moments, because after all,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 5: it's more of a kid's oriented game, but still one
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 5: that adults also will have a lot of fun playing
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 5: and will appreciate. So I just wanted to mention some
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 5: of these moments that I thought were kind of comical
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 5: and that I remember from playing. So one is when
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: Harry brings Cedric's body back after the third task. So
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 5: Cedric is literally in pieces, like we said, when Lego
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 5: character dies, they're just kind of like disembodied, like there's
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 5: like Lego pieces everywhere scattered and Dumblore basically comforts Aimos
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 5: by handling him a little lego instruction sheet to put
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 5: him back together. So he's like mm hmm, and dumbloir appears.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 6: He's like, ah, when I think this is like to
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 6: your point too, that's a really good way because obviously
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 6: this is a really like traumatic and like tragic thing
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 6: that happens in this children's.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 4: Story, right, And I think that, like, you know, a
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: lot of kids do growing up do grow do grow
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: up playing with legos, right, And you're used to like
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: taking like having to like sometimes take things apart and
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: put them back together. And I don't think you necessarily
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: like you think of it from the framework of well,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: my lego piece is just broken up right now. You
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: don't think of it as this lego piece is dead.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: And so I think that like it's a very smart
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: way to kind of like in you know, and obviously
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: again their children's games, but like, yeah, exactly how they
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: approach these darker topics in a children's game, because I
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: think if I was a young child and I was
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: playing this, like I don't know if I would, I
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: probably would think that like Cedric was dead, but like
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: because obviously I read the books, but like, I don't know,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: it doesn't come across, right, and that like way of like, wow,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: this person was just murdered. You're like, oh, they're like
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: pieces fall apart. Here's the instruction sheet to put him
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: back together. I mean, clearly Amos doesn't figure it out
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: because Cedric doesn't come back, and so we don't put
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: him back together. But I think, yeah, it's.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: Just a and it was a very simple instruction sheet.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: Well, right, because the like the the human characters, like, well,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: they don't even come apart really like in real life,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: they're already kind of put together.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 5: But you know, yeah, but yeah, absolutely, because he's actually
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 5: after like in year five, he does canonically appears dead.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 5: So obviously he wasn't put back together, but it does
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 5: open that door of like hope, you know, of just
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 5: you know, thinking of a brighter day ahead. Another moment
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 5: is movie death is omitted, so he simply disappears after
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 5: the seven Harry sequence. Hetwig's death is emitted as well.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: Good because that was traumatic in the film.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes it was another moment.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 5: This one is really bad too, but I couldn't not
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 5: not include it. So Dobby is not actually stabbed by
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 5: Belatrix his knife. Instead, he's crashed, he's crushed by a
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 5: bunch of furniture and his legs are cut off. I
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 5: don't know how much milder that is, but.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: Literally, yeah, I don't know about his legs just getting
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: cut off, like if that was like you know, but
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: again I think it's I think it's again. It's you
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: can think of it through this way of like, oh,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: the pieces are just falling apart and coming up, rather.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 5: Than yeah, exactly if we could ever pick up the
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 5: pieces again, then we'd be able to, you know, relive him.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 5: But it's kind of like all it's it's gone now.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 5: So and then another moment is in the film, book
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 5: and video game, Baltimore kills Nate because he believes name
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 5: to be the master of the Elder One, so as
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 5: long as he was alive, he was never going to
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 5: be able to master it. But in the game it
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 5: is just because Nate eats the last cookie, so againing.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 4: Our children if someone eats you take your last cookie
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 4: at one, that.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 5: Is exactly like it's these really dark moments and the
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 5: absurdity that Lego has, but it's so it's so good,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 5: like like you guys, it's kind of like tongue in cheek.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 5: It's very It's very subtle too, and and it just
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 5: doesn't mock the story, surprisingly because people could be like,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 5: you know, this is insulting, but it isn't, you know,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 5: in a way they do it so with such care
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 5: at the same time, and something as funny as this.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 5: Also, he does, you know, eventually pass away, but it's
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 5: it's never seen, you know.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: The character just goes away.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Yes.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 5: It even mentions, you know, Ron putting his head inside
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 5: of a bucket of water just to get some tears
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 5: off him. Well, he's kind of like in his last
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 5: few minutes. So it's it's like these very very dark
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 5: moments in the book and the films get translated as
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 5: kind of like comical escapes from you know, a little
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 5: bit of that darker tone and heavy moments that you
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 5: know otherwise are pretty hard to come by, you know.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 5: It's it's a good way of dealing with it, honestly.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 5: So I wanted to mention a couple more. One of
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 5: them is when Series falls through the veil, Harry pulls
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 5: off his legs trying to save him, and Series pops
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 5: back out just to ask Bloopin for his legs and
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 5: then goes back through again.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: And I could already hear like the noise is like yeah,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: like hmmm ah oh oh, yeah, it's so good.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: I struggle with that one a little bit more though,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: because like Serious is my guy again, I think it's
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 4: still it doesn't And again too, to your point, I
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 4: don't think that like I don't ever feel this like
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 4: intentional mocking or whatever. I you know, always have seen
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 4: it as a we have to make light of this
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: like tragic scene. And I think because the whole game
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 4: is funny, that's why also why it works, right, It's
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: not like the game is just not funny, and then
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 4: when there's death, it's funny. It's just funny all the time,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: so then it makes sense when the death is funny.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I do I do like how they navigated
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: this one because it actually, weirdly like still feels very
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 4: in character. Obviously it's not a thing that would really happen, right,
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: but it still feels in character for Serious, So I
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 4: can that makes me feel a little bit better that
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: his like his spirit is like still there.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, definitely.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 5: And one more than I wanted to mention is during
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 5: the duo sequence and the final showdown between Harry and Voldemort.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 5: His glasses land on Voldemort, who politely hands them back
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 5: before resuming the fight. So again, this absurdity that happens
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 5: that you know, this humor that you know, that would
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 5: have never happened in any other iteration of the story,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 5: just in Lego, and it doesn't take away from it
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 5: being a very important moment of this climactic scene, but
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 5: it does kind of like give it a more lighthearted approach.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 5: So I think these are really funny. And the fact
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 5: that they don't talk, because I know that in you know,
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 5: subsequent Lego games, they started including dialogue, and I think
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 5: that killed a little bit of that that special element
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 5: that it had, because I think the fact that they
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 5: don't talk and they're so graphic and they're just kind
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 5: of like explaining everything with little drawings. And it's even
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 5: when Harry gets sorted. I remember when he gets sorted,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 5: he gets like, you know, he's in decisive between griffind
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 5: Or and Slytherin, and you know, you see little sounds
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 5: going on. It's a lot of fun, and I think
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 5: it's attributed, you know, for a large part because of
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 5: the absence of dialogue. Just those little grunts and you know,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 5: happy sounds and just laughs and I think brings so
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 5: much magic to the game that to me, it's I
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 5: wouldn't ever want a remake of the game with dialogue,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 5: Like I would rather just have it as it is
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 5: because it just does it, you know it it it
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 5: does what it's supposed to do in such a good way,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 5: and yeah, I just love it.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 4: Well and not having dialogue avoids like what we got
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 4: it universal with the Hermione, the original Hermione, right express
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 4: Like I just imagine I'm redoing it and adding dialogue
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: and it's just like that and I'm just like I
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 4: can't listen to this, yeah, exactly, So you just you
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: just avoid that, especially for I think especially for these
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 4: games where they're like IP based and you like maybe
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 4: have something in your mind of like how it's going
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: to sound because of the actors. It's just like, just
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 4: keep the just don't have dialogue because then you don't
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 4: have to worry about there being a really bad voiceover interpretation.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 4: Also, legos shouldn't talk like they're legos exactly, so, like
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 4: it makes sense that they don't come out in full
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 4: sentences in English or whatever language.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 5: You know, yeah, I think in both the Jurassic Park
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 5: and the Lord of the Rings they have dialogue.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: Hmm.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 4: I wonder if that's that might be. They must have
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 4: remastered Lord of the Rings because I'm pretty sure my
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 4: one for the Twods didn't have dialogue. Yeah, but I
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 4: could be wrong. Yeah, it's been a long, long long
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: time since I played that.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 5: And yeah, just speaking about that a little bit like
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 5: it depending on the version that we were playing. So
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 5: obviously the DS version of the Lego games were a
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 5: bit more condensed or weren't as expansive at the console
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 5: and see versions, so all of the hub options that
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 5: you have like diagon Alley and you know you get
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 5: Hogsmead as well hogsaed Station, like you didn't get all
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 5: of that in the in the console the old handheld versions.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 5: But yeah, like it depended on the the console that
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 5: you played it at, but it was basically kind of
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 5: like the same game overall, even the iPad version. I
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 5: was just looking it back because I remember when you
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 5: mentioned that, I was like, oh, yes, there was an
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 5: actual iPad version, and I think it was one of
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 5: the handheld versions adapted for the iPad. So so yeah,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 5: that's That's also something I just wanted to mention quick.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 5: And one more thing that I want to say is
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 5: that it offers the chance to explore areas that were
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 5: unplayable in the main tie in games, which I think
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 5: is one of the very exciting parts of it and
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 5: something that I loved about it because you get to
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 5: not just see cut scenes, but also you know, step
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 5: into these places and play and explore, you know, and
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 5: you get like Hogsmeat, Platform nine and three Quarters, Private Drive,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 5: Diagon Alley, the Leaky Cauldron, Nocturnale, the Borrow, Grimal plays,
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 5: the Ministry of Magic. We were never able to play
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 5: inside the Ministry of Magic, and here you get like
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 5: a full playable level of it, or even you know,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 5: the playground featured and the opening scene of Order the
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 5: Phoenix right before the Dementors attacked Harry and Dudley, you.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: Get to play there as well.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 5: So I love the fact that they kind of like said, okay,
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 5: what was unexplored in the previous games that you know,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 5: we could kind of like draw people in. So they
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 5: kind of like also included a lot of levels, like
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 5: there's one that's you're basically playing as Ron and Hermione
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 5: Harry's Brumus jings in his first quidditch match, and you're
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 5: just kind of like finding your way up to Snape
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 5: and you have to overcome all of these obstacles. So
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 5: it's great because it kind of sees the story from
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 5: a different perspective in that sense, and it gives you
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 5: like these this this opportunity to play in different locations
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 5: that otherwise you would have never been able to. So
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 5: just some reception about the reception of the game and
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 5: final thoughts. So the critical response overall was quite positive
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 5: for both games, especially on the console and perceived versions
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 5: for the reasons that we talked about about it being
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 5: a bit more like explorable and bigger and just you know,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 5: the scale of it was obviously it allowed more development
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 5: put into it. Years one through four received slightly stronger
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 5: overall pray for the charm soundtrack, faithfulness to the films,
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 5: and the replayability value, and Years five to seven were
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 5: also well received, particularly for humor and accessibility, but scores
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 5: were a bit uneven across platforms because we were starting
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 5: to get more into like the year twenty eleven, so
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 5: we're starting to get like more versions, so we got
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 5: like the DS version, we have the PC Splash console version,
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 5: we have the iPad version too, So obviously it depends
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 5: on which platform you're playing it in. But yeah, again,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 5: like they the humor, the comedic aspect of it was
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 5: always a highlight. How they managed to navigate through those
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 5: like darker moments with the use of this comedy aspect,
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 5: and I like comic relief moments, and so yeah, I just,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 5: you know, was wondering if you guys thought like these
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 5: Lego Harry Potter games actually met fan expect or if
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 5: they kind of, in their way quietly exceeded them.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: Hmmm. I mean that's hard for me to answer, because
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: this was like the first Lego game I ever played.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: M So I think like personally it exceeded my expectations
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: because I didn't know what to expect. I just bought
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: it blindly and was like, it's Harry Potter, I'm going
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: to play it, and then really enjoyed it.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: I remember them being very popular, Like I feel like
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: people enjoyed them.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting to hear. Yeah, it's interesting to hear
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 4: that like the first four games kind of you know,
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 4: have scored a little bit better overall, which in a
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: way doesn't like fully surprise me, Like I guess, I wonder,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 4: like what the reasoning for that is? Is it that
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 4: you know, could it have been? Because you know how
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: originally the games came out in two parts, so is
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 4: part of it that like people picked up the first
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 4: one and then didn't necessarily continue and play the second one.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 4: And I almost wonder if now that you can buy
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 4: them combined, if like more people have played through it all,
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 4: is it, like you know, yeah, I wonder too if
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 4: it's also like story based, right, like do the first
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 4: especially the first two like books for films, Like do
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 4: they translate better for a game? Then later on when
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 4: we get very very story driven, And then also think, yeah,
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 4: is like did maybe because obviously the books get darker
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 4: as we go on, right, so did the fact that
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 4: the books got darker, And obviously you know, we just
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 4: talked about how they worked through that. But I wonder
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 4: if the changes they had to make to like work
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 4: around that, if that, like you know, people didn't love
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 4: that as much because I know you mentioned like they
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 4: score stronger a little bit for like faithfulness to the
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 4: films for the first ones, and obviously those last couple
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 4: ones they couldn't be as faithful to the films because
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 4: there was some dark stuff there. So as you were
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 4: saying that, I was just thinking about, like just wondering
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 4: what it was about years five through seven that, you know,
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 4: maybe scored a little bit lower. And then it made
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 4: me think about your question of like, did did have
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 4: like overall, has Lego Harry Potter met fan expectations? I
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 4: think yes, I think from like a Harry Potter fan
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 4: base and also like someone who's a fan of like
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 4: Lego games. But I also wonder if you dive into
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 4: it more like did certain years meet fan expectations more
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 4: than other years? Could be another way to look at it, Yeah,
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 4: which is I think, Yeah.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say it's interesting because I feel like
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: the film Companion games kind of fell into that same trap.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: And I know we discussed lapsed episode that like the
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: first three games are like a lot of people's favorites,
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: whereas the last several kind of it didn't really translate
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: so well to video game for him. So I wonder
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: if it's just kind of the same deal here of
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: it just didn't translate quite as well in those years.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 5: Something funny this takes me back to is like a
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 5: few years I keep saying a few years ago.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: Again, it was probably two decades ago.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 5: I remember because my brother would read the books before
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 5: I did, and he'd be like, how are they going
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 5: to make a video game out of Order of the Phoenix.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 5: He was like, there's nothing happening, like action wise, it's
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 5: like such a slow paced book, and it's just like,
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 5: you know, Harry overthinking and just being like a lot
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 5: of his internal conflict. And he was like, I remember
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 5: vividly him saying, what on earth are they going to
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 5: do with a Harry Potter video game? And I was
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 5: like hmm, And I was like, I don't know, like yeah,
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 5: and so it kind kind of like, you know, go
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 5: to that point of like saying, maybe the first three
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 5: ones are the ones that were more inclined to go
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 5: by that gameplay mechanic and just translate it a lot
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 5: better than the subsequent installments did. Even though I think
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 5: Goblet of Fire had a huge potential to be an
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 5: amazing game because of the Triwizard Tournament. After that one,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 5: you know, you do get Dumbledoreo's army, but you know,
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 5: a level the level in the game was recruiting students,
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 5: So it wasn't like even something that you would be like, oh,
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 5: let's you know, let's teach them a less the spell
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 5: or that or this. You know, they weren't even learning
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 5: anything in Defense against the Dark Arts. So it is
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 5: it is interesting to see how you know, many times
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 5: we treat Harry Potter as this whole thing, obviously, this
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 5: whole full body of work, but each installment is so
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 5: particular and could really play very well with this me
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 5: medium of video games for some of them, but the
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 5: others might not. So they really did struggle and with
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 5: the last few games like Deathly Hall's Part one and two.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 5: With the original games, they did struggle a lot with that.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 5: So it's very interesting you brought up because I hadn't
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 5: thought about it, and I think it's it's it could
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 5: be a very very you know, I'm thinking it's very possible.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: There's there's truth to that.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean I think even like thinking about it
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 4: from like a film perspective, like I remember, like when
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 4: we were waiting for like film adaptations of those later books,
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 4: like there was a lot of discourse around like how
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 4: are they going to translate this into a film? Right,
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 4: Like How is Order of the Phoenix going to work
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 4: as a film because the same things you just mentioned, right, Like,
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 4: how do we capture some of that? How are we
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 4: going to split Deathly Hallows into two parts when the
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 4: first book, the first part of the book is them
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 4: like camping half the time, right, Like, how is that
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 4: going to be a film that's going to be keeping
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 4: your attention? And so I think that in general today, right, right, Yeah,
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 4: that's funny, it's yeah, I think that. Yeah, so they
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 4: did something right there, but also at the expense of things, right,
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 4: Like you do have to make choices, I think more
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 4: with those later books because there is so much internal things.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 4: There's so much plot driven stuff that really I think
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 4: only works really really well in a book, and so
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 4: you've got to like navigate that while still telling the story.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 4: And I think that unfortunately, like it's hard, Yeah, that's
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 4: exactly it. It's harder to translate that into a game.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 4: And not that those games are bad, but there is
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 4: something just very like whimsical and magical, and I don't
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 4: know about especially like the first two books that I
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 4: think just translate really well into two games, right, because
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 4: I think it's like you've got them discovering there was
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 4: a world, and sorting and the introduction of quidditch and
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 4: the introduction of classes at Hogwarts, Like, there's just so
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 4: much that you can do there throughout the entire especially
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 4: I think a Sorcerer's Stone like that one just reads
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 4: like perfectly translated into a video game, where it does
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 4: get harder, I think after Goblet of Fire. But yeah,
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 4: I still think overall, like I think that it has
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 4: met expectations. I think that I'm very interested. I guess
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 4: to hear like how many fans like have actually played
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 4: like the lego Harry Potter games or if you know,
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 4: because I don't think they get as much, you know,
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I think about when Hogwart's Legacy came
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 4: out right, Like, obviously as a huge game, it gets
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 4: a lot of discourse online. You've got a lot of
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 4: people reaching to play at whether they're Harry Potter fans
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 4: or just fans of RPGs and like video games in general.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 4: And it very much is not just looked at as
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 4: a Harry Potter video game. It's looked at as a
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 4: video game as part of the video games that are
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 4: that are out right now. Whereas I do think Lego
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 4: games are maybe a little bit more niche whether that's
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 4: like kids and adults that are just really into the
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 4: IP or really into Lego games, but they just feel
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 4: more I don't know how much they're talked about in
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 4: the like overall, I don't know if zeitgeist is the
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 4: right word to use here in the video game community.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 4: So I could see maybe to your other point, maybe
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 4: they like quietly exceeded them, because it's like, I don't
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 4: know how much people are like, oh man, there's a
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 4: new Lego Harry Potter game coming out. I got to
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 4: run out and to get it the day it comes out,
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 4: versus maybe you eventually just pick it up and you're like, Wow,
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 4: why didn't I play this sooner? This is so fun?
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm yeah. Yeah.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 5: Also, I don't think it would have had the same
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 5: impact if it was released today as they had back
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 5: in the day, because you would put anything out back
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 5: in the day and people would buy it and they
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 5: would play it just because you know, it was the
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 5: cusp of popularity for Harry Potter back then, and everything
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 5: was still so new, and books the last book had
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 5: only come out a couple of years before that still
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 5: had more movies. We were, you know, just about to
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 5: wrap up that that uh, that event. But I think
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 5: it it just really came out in a time where
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 5: it allowed it for for it to be popular and
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 5: for people to really enjoy them. I do think they're
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 5: very much appreciated in the fandom as a whole, Like
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 5: the first three games of the main titles, and obviously
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 5: Hotwart's legacy, I think it's the one that takes all
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 5: of the credit. Like for most people, it's kind of
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 5: like the best game, and obviously it's the newest one,
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 5: it's the most Obviously it's an open world RPG game.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 5: So like you said, Nicole, like it just it doesn't
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 5: it's not just for the fans, but also for OURPG
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 5: fans as well, and they all had like really really
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 5: high opinions of that game. But I do think that
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 5: Hotwarts Lego Harry Potter, even though it's obviously less popular,
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 5: I do think it's pretty well, you know, received, and
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 5: it is a fan favorite, we could call it in
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 5: terms of what Harry Potter games are good. At least
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 5: in a lot of the YouTube videos that I've seen
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 5: of rankings, Lego is always pretty much out up there,
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 5: which is funny because it's like the Lego games did
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 5: a better work at capturing that than the games did themselves.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 5: So you know, this ties in a little bit into
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 5: this last question that I had that if you know
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 5: they are any better than the original EA Harry Potter games,
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 5: or if we're kind of comparing two different design philosophies,
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 5: And I mean, I think in my you know, I
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 5: think that it's very different design philosophies as well, So
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 5: it's kind of like comparing peers to apples in that regard.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 5: Even though it's the same story and there's a lot
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 5: of elements that they share, it's just very different mechanics.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 5: It's a different objective, it's a different like. So I
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 5: think it's unfair because some are important to compare them,
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 5: but in terms of like how addictive they are her
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 5: in terms of how good they are or how fun
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 5: they are, I think the Lego Harry Potter games as
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 5: a whole do a much better job than the main
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 5: ty in games, just because of how they managed to
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 5: keep it very consistent. And that's something that we didn't
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 5: talk about, but it's consistent all throughout, so even the
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 5: castle design is almost I think it's the same throughout
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 5: the whole of it. I'm not sure if they kind
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 5: of kept the design for the first four of Yes,
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 5: they change it for definitely Holl's Part two, so they
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 5: added that viaduct from the Battle of Hogwarts, but other
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 5: than that, the castle was kind of like the same,
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 5: So they were able kind of like to make it
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 5: a lot more consistent, which, again, like we talked at
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 5: the beginning of the movies, didn't have that advantage and
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 5: they kind of had to play by a year as
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 5: the books were being released. By here, they had like
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 5: a much more They had more room to give us
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 5: something a lot more consistent, and I love a good consistency,
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 5: and I think that it did a great job too.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I mean they're very different than those
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: first EA games, so I guess it's just more of
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: a personal preference. But I will say I enjoyed Lego
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: Harry Potter more than I did the original games.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you can't compare them. I think in
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 4: the same way that you wouldn't really be able to
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 4: compare the original games to like Hogwarts Legacy now or
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 4: Lego Harry Potter to Hogwarts Legacy, and they're just all
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 4: very separate, and I think again, it is a preference thing.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 4: I also prefer the Lego Harry Potter games. That's why
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 4: I've played those, and I haven't played you know, the
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 4: original tie in games. And you know, I did have
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 4: the original Goblet of Fire on game Boy, and I
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 4: don't I think at the found it way too hard
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 4: at the time, and that didn't really play it, whereas
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 4: I maybe I gotta like, let me get what, let
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 4: me start with Hogwarts Legacy is right. I pre ordered
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 4: that game and it's still wrapped on my shelf. I know,
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 4: I know. I think I'm going to end up just
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 4: having to like purchase it on my switch because it's
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 4: been discounted a lot, and so I think, like, if
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 4: I play it on my switch, I'm more likely to
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 4: pick it up over my PlayStation.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 5: Imagine channel opening a YouTube channel channel.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: Those are a lot of money today.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they are. They are. But I think that, yeah,
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 4: Nicole plays their Hogwarts Legacy. Yeah, I think that it's Yeah,
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 4: it's a preference thing. I think the one thing that's
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 4: really great about like Lego picking up Harry Potter is like,
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 4: because one, of course they would, why wouldn't they? But
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 4: I also think it just makes like Harry Potter, video
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 4: gaming more accessible to like the wider audience, because like
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 4: you do get a lot of people who don't like
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 4: playing big like RPG kind of games like, which is
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 4: sometimes me like I've always wanted to get into them
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 4: and want to like them, but I just get so
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 4: frustrated that it just becomes not fun anymore. Or there's
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 4: so many things to remember, and I'm just like I'd
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 4: rather just watch a movie, like or I'd rather watch
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 4: somebody playing through the game, right, Whereas, yeah, I love
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 4: doing that. Whereas I think, like, you know, there is
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 4: a right now, there's such a like like I don't know,
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 4: popularity around like cozy games, right, and like what people
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 4: are calling cozy games, And I see the Lego games
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 4: as kind of like falling into that space because there
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 4: isn't high risk. There isn't high stakes, Like it's a
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 4: lot of puzzles and like right, right, and then you
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 4: get right and then you get put back together. Like
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 4: it's not you know, it's it's it's just you can
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 4: easily like sit on the couch and just kind of
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 4: play through it and not feel like your heart is
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 4: racing because you're having to battle God. I think of
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 4: a Lord of the Rings game I played, and I
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 4: would just remember getting like surrounded by orcs and it
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 4: was just like the scariest of stressful. Yes, it was
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 4: Shadow of Mortor. That was the first thing I got it.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 4: I got it with my place, and it was just
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 4: the most stressful thing ever. Well that's why. That's probably
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 4: also why I haven't played it yet.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: But I always you can take breathers in between the
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: battles and go to the Room of Requirement and just
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: hang out in your little like creature vivariums.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 4: I'm never going to come out of your hypocrits. Well,
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 4: I got I'm just going to stay there. I think
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 4: like I am somebody because I love video games for
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 4: the story. So like I will always play those games
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 4: like on the most basic story level mode. I don't
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 4: want like high, I don't need crazy battle like.
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  Speaker 2: I just want to get the story.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 4: And find out the story. And so I think that, Yeah,
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 4: so I think you can't compare them. I'm glad that
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 4: Lego Harry Potter exists so that there is games there
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 4: for kids and for people who want to just casually game.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 4: It's just yeah, it's just a very excess, and I
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 4: kind of hope that, like going forward, like if we
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 4: if like more Harry Potter video games are on our horizon,
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 4: I do hope that maybe, like obviously I think the
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 4: next project will be Hogwarts Legacy too, but I hope
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 4: that other than that, like there is maybe an appetite
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 4: for making another like simple kind of Harry Potter game,
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 4: but not in a way of like a mobile game,
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 4: because obviously we've got a lot of mobile games that
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 4: kind of like you know, I think of puzzles and
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 4: spells and things like that is a very simple game.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 4: But I would love another like I guess kid friendly
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 4: kind of game.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: Disney dreaml like Valley, but make it Harry Potter. Oh
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: you could in the lake and like the giant slid
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: would come and like help.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 4: Out my god. Yes, that's exactly what I want. Yes, yes,
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 4: like animal crossing Hogwarts.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: Like different characters and like put their little house around.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah you know, but it's so funny because I could
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 4: definitely see with like the popularity of like dream Light Valley,
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 4: which again is another game that I bought forever ago
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 4: and is on my switch and I've not played it yet.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 4: But like with the popularity of that. I'm kind of
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 4: hoping that maybe is it. Is it still port Key
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 4: Games now that's like taken over, is it? I don't
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 4: know if they still call themselves port Key Games or
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 4: whoever it is. That's kind of like in charge of
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 4: like the Wishing World Games, Like I do hope that
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 4: maybe they I think it still is. I think like
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 4: if they see the popularity of a game like that,
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 4: like thinking about like maybe we should make something like that.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 4: I think with the TV show coming out, definitely, I
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 4: think puts Harry Potter back in obviously the mainstream forefront
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 4: a little bit more. And so you always say, right,
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 4: like just imagine like new like just like like Pokemon Go,
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 4: but it's like New catching beasts and the.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 5: Case it could be you a new character and you're
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 5: just out in the world capturing you're.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 4: Working with New, like you're working with New to capture
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 4: the beasts. But it's like in Dreamlight Valley style.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: Yes, and then you can like a graphic weight and
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: like put them where you want to put.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 4: You can help oh my god, you can help New
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 4: decorate in the case like you set up though, like
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 4: you like we need to become game developers because this
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 4: is great. And again we say this all the time,
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 4: but if someone happens upon this podcast and listens to
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 4: this and they develop this, please credit Rebellio Podcast if.
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  Speaker 1: We gave you this idea.
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  Speaker 7: Testers absolutely, but just imagine like you get like you
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 7: collect these beasts when new, and then you get in
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 7: the case with new and like you help create the
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 7: environment for that that beast.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 5: Well, if you get that in Hogwarts Legacy, you get
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 5: something familiar. Yes, you get something pretty similar because so
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 5: you get to like these biomes like these like different
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 5: it looks like new suitcase kind of like because you
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 5: have this whole like huge landscape where you can just
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 5: host your beasts and you can pet them and beat
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 5: them and just kind of it feels very Pokemon.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: There's like a beating pen, so then you can get
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: baby beats.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: M I really like that element they.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 4: See they could also do, like I think because like
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 4: one of my favorite games is Stardoo Valley, which again
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 4: is a very kind of like in it's not I'm
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 4: going to make a comparison that's not right at all.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 4: So like anybody that plays these games is going to
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 4: be like, clearly Nicole doesn't what she's talking about but
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 4: I don't know a better way to describe it, but
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 4: Stardoo Valley, if you've not played it, is very similar
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 4: in the way to games like Animal Crossing and that
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 4: you're like building this thing and you're taking care of
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 4: your farm and your animals and all of that kind
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 4: of stuff. I feel like we could make a Harry
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 4: Potter version of something like Stardow Valley and that maybe
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 4: you're raising, like you have a hippogriff farm and you're
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 4: taking care of your little hippogriffs, or you know, you've
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 4: got your little pen of nifflers and you've got to
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 4: go out and forage for food and bring it to
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 4: your little nifflers. Like I just feel like we could
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 4: somehow make a farming type game around the world.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 5: That's what they're doing with Pokemon now. They're doing this
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 5: animal style.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 4: Are very popular, yes, yeah, and they.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 5: Are kind of like using that to stress on it
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 5: and be like, Okay, there's a market here, let's pokemon
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 5: it and then you.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 4: Know, yeah, I just feel like we could do that
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 4: with Harry Potter, Like I feel like there's certain for it.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 4: There's certain yeah, yes, yeah, especially fantastic beasts like I
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 4: think there's definitely certain ips that wouldn't work well, and
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 4: like a farming style game like I could never imagine
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 4: like Star Wars, like being in like well, I mean
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 4: you could there is a lot of creatures and you
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 4: could take care of creatures and stuff like that. But
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 4: I think like Harry Potter, like you could sellhow make
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 4: it work? You know, maybe you're growing plants right and
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 4: you've got to take care of your mandrakes. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 4: well I would play that game immediately. But yeah, either way,
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 4: I don't think we can compare any of the moral
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 4: of the story of the question that we just have
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 4: started this all with, right is, I don't think that
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 4: we can really compare them at all, which I think
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 4: is a good thing because again, it's just something for everybody. Yeah,
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 4: you can kind of pick and choose what you prefer
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 4: and still engage in a Harry Potter video game.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, So that's all we have for our beloved
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 5: lego Harry Potter games. If you haven't picked them up yet,
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 5: I think us three recommend you to do it, because
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 5: it's a great opportunity to just lay back and enjoy
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 5: and not being stressed, even if you are torn apart,
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 5: there's always going to be a backup, either.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: A manual to put you back together again.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: There's always a manual.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 5: And it's just good, cozy, feel good games that you
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 5: know are perfect whenever you need a timeout. So yeah,
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 5: hopefully this bites a little interest to play these games
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 5: as well. And yeah, that's all we have for today's
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 5: main discussion.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: It's a noise, all right. So last episode we asked
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: you the question do you have a favorite of the
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: Harry Potter video games? And we got a lot of responses.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: So Hufflepuff Bell on Instagram says Hogwarts legacy. I wish
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: they could add more to it. I beat it twice,
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: first as a Hufflepuff and the second as a Slytherin.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: Love the theming of the common rooms and want them
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: to add more years.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 4: Wow, I'm curious if you enjoyed playing more as a
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 4: Hufflepuff or as a Slytherin.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let us know.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: I obviously I play as a Hufflepuff, and yeah, the
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: common rooms are really cool. I'm curious to see the
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: other ones, so maybe I'll have to start as.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 4: The Well, if I ever start playing, you know, i'll
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 4: show you which is obviously going to be amazing because.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: And then Jerry send us an email, and I'm just
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: going to summarize the first bit here. She explains that
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: she doesn't really have a lot of experience with video
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: games because they weren't really a thing when she was
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: a teenager, but she does remember trying out a Star
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: Trek game on a mainframe computer in college. So then
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: she says, quote, so when the types of video games
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: consoles in PC based computer games that you were discussing
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: came out, I was busy with work. I never bothered
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: to buy any, as I figured I would be rubbish
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: at them. And then when I heard about the first
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: person shooter type games, I really didn't want to be involved. Yeah,
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: you didn't miss much. Therefore, the only Harry Potter related
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: gaming I have ever done was the original Potter More.
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: First catching the feather to become one of the beta testers. Yeah,
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: she says she managed to do that even with dial
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: up internet access. Yeah, oh those were the times. And
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: then she says, and then the games inside Potter More.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: I loved the toss the nomes from the garden, catch
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: the pixies, bounce the pudding. Even the game with the
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: spiders was okay. And I loved to collect potion ingredients.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: I couldn't brew potions my internet connection was too slow. Yep,
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: I have that same problem, and or my eye hand
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: coordination was too bad. So I confessed to cheating and
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: giving my login info to a friend who could brew
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: potions to make those I needed to be able to
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: advance in the storytelling. I can never forgive whoever made
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: the decision to destroy the original Potter More. With that
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: lovely artwork and those fun games accessible even to those
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: with lack of gaming skills like me, I want to
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: play Hogwarts Legacy. At least I want to create that
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: lovely place in the Room of Requirement and capture and
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: raise various fantastic beasts. Can you tell I've watched some
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: of the YouTube videos and explore the castle and hang
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: out in the common room and fly on a hippogriff.
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: But I know that I would be rubbish at the
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: spell casting and dueling needed to get to where I
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: can manage to do that. And I am so game
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: ignorant that I am not even sure of a cost
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: effective way to get to play. Though now that I
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: do own a Windows eleven PC, I might be able
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: to question Mark question mark.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 2: That's on your specs, Yeah, on ram near graphic card.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: But but you see, Jerry would play those games that
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: we've been discussing.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 4: That sounds perfect, and I think that, Like, no, I'm
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 4: just gonna say, I think I was thinking of what
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 4: Jerry was saying about the potomer games. Imagine how much
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 4: how cool those games would be now with the technology
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 4: we have now, because they would probably have like an app,
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 4: and like I can just imagine playing those games like
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 4: on my iPad and stuff and it just being so
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 4: much easier than we were having to try to brew
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 4: these potions on our dial up internet. So I agree
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 4: to whoever decided to get rid of all of that.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: And you know, it's really popular now that they could
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: turn something like that into is those apps where it
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: like locks your screen and turns on your notifications so
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: that you can like get away from your phone and
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: like not have screen time, but then it like rewards
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: you with stuff. So like I know there's one where
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: like the little character knit socks and then like the
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: longer you have it up in your phone's locked, the
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: more socks you knit. You could do like a potion
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: brewing and like have all your little potions and then
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: the more you have your phone locked, the more the
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: potions brew.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 2: Mm, that'd be cute.
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys remember, but back in
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 5: the day, the old Potter More Days PlayStation home released
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 5: sort of like a beta game of Potter More and
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 5: it was like the first thing we would get, similar
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 5: to Howard's Legacy.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember that.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 5: There's even a trailer for it. I played it, remember
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 5: playing it.
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 2: It was only like.
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 5: You could do to walk through dagon Alley, the Hogworths Express,
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 5: the entrance hall of the castle. I think you could
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 5: play games as well, like wizard games, and you got
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 5: sorted into a house that project never was never picked up,
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 5: but you did get to access your common rooms and
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 5: it was really cool. Like I was just remembering that
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 5: and it kind of caught lost. It's like a hiad
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 5: and gem that not many people know about, but it's
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 5: fool that, you know. She mentioned game and Potter Moore
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 5: and I was like, oh, yes, I remember this game actually,
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 5: and it was so cool because there was literally the
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 5: illustrations of Pottermore in full three D four.
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: That's cool done really well.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And then we got a couple more responses on Instagram.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: Lucy says, Hogwart's Legacy. I have only played it one
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: time for about thirty minutes as my friend needed help
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: with questions, but it was so much fun, and I've
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: also persuaded her to actually play it in full. It
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: was a very easy, not much arm twisting thing, so
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: we'll have to ask her how that goes. And then
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: Carolyn says, my favorite is still Lego Harry Potter. The
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: humor gets me every time I play those games. Yeah,
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: yey stuff.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 4: So for this episode's discussing question, we would like to
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 4: know what elements would you like to see in a
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 4: future Harry Potter video game? So, as always we'd love
• 1:44:38
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• 1:44:40
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• 1:44:43
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• 1:44:45
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• 1:44:50
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• 1:44:57
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• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: So, next episode will continue with our video games series.
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: We're going to dive into Hogwart's legacy, So if that's
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: of interest to you, you don't want to miss next
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: episode and until next time.
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  Speaker 5: I'm Amy, I'm Nicole, and I'm Toms.