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The Island Of The Giants (Feat. Heather L. Arnold) · Cosmic Peach

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  Speaker 1: This ain't my first time.
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  Speaker 3: At the rodeos.
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  Speaker 1: MHM.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome to the occult Rejects.
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  Speaker 5: Our guest today is Heather l Arnold, the researcher and
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  Speaker 5: owner of Ancient Aruba Tours and the author of Forthcoming
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  Speaker 5: of the Forthcoming, The Islands of the Giants, the Lost
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  Speaker 5: Race of Giants of Aruba, can Bonier and Crocco. I'm
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  Speaker 5: saying that correctly. I screw that up.
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  Speaker 4: A serious universe.
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  Speaker 5: A Syracuse University graduate and former TV industry professional, Heather
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  Speaker 5: has spent the past several years combining colonial archives archaeological
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  Speaker 5: reports in the caves of the ABC Islands for evidence
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  Speaker 5: of a long forgotten race of elongated skull giants. And
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  Speaker 5: she's here to share what she's uncovered. But before we
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  Speaker 5: get to her, we will talk to the other rejects
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  Speaker 5: and introduce them first. Heidi, we got Heidi Love Unfiltered
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  Speaker 5: Rise Podcast, The Mormon Slawyer.
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  Speaker 4: What is going on?
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  Speaker 6: Not much?
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  Speaker 4: Not much.
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  Speaker 6: I'm so happy to be here, especially with friends. I
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  Speaker 6: love it.
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  Speaker 7: It's gonna be awesome, Heather. I'm so excited to hear
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  Speaker 7: from you. So I'm excited for this show and find
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  Speaker 7: me at the Unfiltered Rise everywhere podcasts are served.
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  Speaker 4: Awesome and thank you so much. Ready and now next
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  Speaker 4: week got Julia from Cosmic Peach. What is going on? Julia?
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  Speaker 8: Hey, Nick, thanks for having me. I'm really excited about
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  Speaker 8: this one. It's one of my favorite subjects to talk about.
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  Speaker 8: And thanks for allowing me to be a part of
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  Speaker 8: the Occult Reject so I can meet awesome guests like
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  Speaker 8: this because this subject is definitely, like I said, one
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  Speaker 8: of my absolute fave topics. So excited for the show.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, thank you for joining us, Julia, and I
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  Speaker 5: assume like when I have top notch researchers with me
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  Speaker 5: on the show, I got to bring the heat good guests,
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  Speaker 5: so you know it works out.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you. And we got Tim Kastantine us today.
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  Speaker 5: Very exciting I'm very happy he made it with us
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  Speaker 5: from sixth Censory Podcast.
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  Speaker 4: Please Tim, let everybody know where they can find your
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  Speaker 4: amazing work.
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  Speaker 9: Hey, Nick, thanks for having me. Always good to be
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  Speaker 9: here on the show. I love the show. I love
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  Speaker 9: being a part of it.
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  Speaker 4: Hell Y oh, thank you, thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you for Yeah. You can find me at sixth
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  Speaker 3: Sensory Podcast.
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  Speaker 9: I spell it out six Spotify, YouTube, Patreon and some
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  Speaker 9: other places. And uh, Heather Arnold, thanks for being here.
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  Speaker 9: I love your work and like I told you before,
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  Speaker 9: but I also love your energy. So I'm really looking
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  Speaker 9: forward to this.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you man. Thanks for joining us. Tim,
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  Speaker 5: and finally to Heather. Please Heather, let everybody know like
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  Speaker 5: what you would like to plug, where they can find
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  Speaker 5: you or whatever you'd like to promote.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Thank you for having me. It's
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  Speaker 1: great meeting all of you. It's nice to have this format.
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  Speaker 1: I don't believe I've ever had this many people on
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  Speaker 1: a podcast four so I kind of I like it
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  Speaker 1: because it'll be something new for me. I am. I
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  Speaker 1: have been here now all together for eight years. I
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  Speaker 1: have been studying the giants. However, for now going on,
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  Speaker 1: it has to be eighteen years. I have an amazing
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  Speaker 1: daughter who is half a Ruben and half American, and
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  Speaker 1: I currently do tours following in the footsteps of the
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  Speaker 1: Giants called Ancient Aruba Tours. They'refore our private tours. So
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  Speaker 1: if you're ever in Aruba, you can contact me through
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  Speaker 1: social media. I have my ex account is Heather l Arnold,
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  Speaker 1: my Facebook is Heather l Arnold, and my Instagram is
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  Speaker 1: Heather l Arnold, so you can find me on all
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  Speaker 1: three of those platforms and you can contact me there
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  Speaker 1: via a private message and we can arrange tour. I've
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  Speaker 1: done many tours with people that have seen my podcast
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  Speaker 1: on x and see my podcasts on YouTube and et cetera.
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  Speaker 1: So if you're ever in Aruba, or you know someone
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  Speaker 1: coming to Aruba and they're very interested in archaeological tours,
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  Speaker 1: I don't just do the sites of the Giants. I
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  Speaker 1: also show other strange, bizarre, sometimes creepy sites that I
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  Speaker 1: have to do with death and burials and things of
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  Speaker 1: that nature that no tour will take you to. So
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  Speaker 1: and I would love to say it here, but if
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  Speaker 1: I say it and then some other tour company hears me,
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna take all of my tour stops, but it's
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  Speaker 1: an excellent tour and if anyone would like to join
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  Speaker 1: me for a private tour, police feel free. Also, I
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  Speaker 1: am currently writing my book The Islands of the Giants,
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  Speaker 1: the Lost Raies of Giants of Aruba, Bonair and Caresu,
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  Speaker 1: And if you follow me on my social media then
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  Speaker 1: you'll know more about my writings. And I look forward
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  Speaker 1: to seeing you in Aruba and telling you about the giants.
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  Speaker 5: Awesome, that's good for you. That's some crazy stuff. So
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  Speaker 5: I guess I like to get into it. What was
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  Speaker 5: it that got into giants.
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  Speaker 4: Studying this?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great question. So I came to Aruba
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  Speaker 1: and I was here on a vacation and I started
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  Speaker 1: doing some hikes and looking at the petroglyphs and the
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  Speaker 1: pictographs here, and I noticed something very strange, and that's
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  Speaker 1: that they were similar to drawings that are seen all
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  Speaker 1: over the world and including out west, including in Europe,
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  Speaker 1: South America, even similar ones on Easter Island, so far
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  Speaker 1: away Japan even has similar drawings. And so that struck
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  Speaker 1: me as odd. And then I tried to delve into
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  Speaker 1: the history that is taught to the kids here in
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  Speaker 1: school about Aruba, what is the ancient history, And they
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  Speaker 1: don't really go into much ancient history. They kind of
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  Speaker 1: start the history at the time the Vespucci came to
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  Speaker 1: the island, which is where I then started my to
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  Speaker 1: do my research. So it's interesting because they say, like
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  Speaker 1: Aruba was founded in fourteen ninety nine, which is when
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  Speaker 1: Vespucci first set foot on this island with several of
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  Speaker 1: his men, after he took a ship here from the
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  Speaker 1: mainland of what is now Venezuela. We are currently sixteen
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  Speaker 1: miles by the way off the coast of Venezuela, so
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  Speaker 1: I can actually see Venezuela from here. And so once
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  Speaker 1: I began to realize that why is there no history
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  Speaker 1: before Vespucci came? It doesn't even make sense. And then
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  Speaker 1: I realized that the kids in school are taught that
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  Speaker 1: Aruba was called the useless island because it's so arid.
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  Speaker 1: It's a desert island. Throw anything here. You can't have livestock.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, that's changed and there have been methods to
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  Speaker 1: change that, but at the time that was the name,
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  Speaker 1: which I thought was very odd because Aruba has gold
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of gold, some of the most gold
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  Speaker 1: of anywhere in the Caribbean, and other not just gold,
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  Speaker 1: semi precious stones are found here. Crystals. There's a whole
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  Speaker 1: mountain called Crystal Mountain here that's been raped in, pillaged sadly,
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  Speaker 1: but nonetheless you can still find some gems if you
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  Speaker 1: look around. And so then I said, no, there's got
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  Speaker 1: to be something hidden, There's something going on. Why are
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  Speaker 1: they calling it the useless island? Why was Vespucci so
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  Speaker 1: invested to come to this little, tiny island. It doesn't
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  Speaker 1: make sense, especially when you're already in South America. Why
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  Speaker 1: are you coming up to these islands? And so then
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  Speaker 1: as I did more and more research, I started with
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  Speaker 1: Vespucci and I started reading his letters that he wrote
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  Speaker 1: after he first came to Aruba. And there's where he
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  Speaker 1: tells that he details in details, specific detail of all
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  Speaker 1: the places he's visiting on his journey. And he's very
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  Speaker 1: specific in his descriptions. He is he takes with him
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  Speaker 1: on his journey, by the way, top scientists, philosophers, uh doctors,
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  Speaker 1: people who are experts in flora and fauna, people who
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  Speaker 1: would we would consider today anthropologists. So he's he's considering
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  Speaker 1: these also research missions, you know, not just probably looking
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  Speaker 1: for treasure, which of course he most likely one hundredercent was,
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  Speaker 1: but also trying to report back about these all these
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  Speaker 1: strange cultures he's coming across that are so foreign to
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  Speaker 1: the Europeans at that time. And he had just left
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  Speaker 1: an island. Incidentally, in his writings, you can actually get
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  Speaker 1: this book, it's called Letters from the New World. And
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  Speaker 1: he had just left an island where he saw it's
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  Speaker 1: off the coast of Ennezuela closer actually yes, it's actually
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  Speaker 1: closer to Colombia. And he had seen a human being
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  Speaker 1: spun around on a spit over a fire, being prepared
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  Speaker 1: to be eaten, and he details it very much. So
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  Speaker 1: he details what people are eating, where people are wearing,
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  Speaker 1: what they are even their sexual practices. He's very involved
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  Speaker 1: in detailing these people, and so he does he details that.
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  Speaker 1: And then the next thing, the next place he goes
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  Speaker 1: is Aruba. So he and interestingly, after his encounter with
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  Speaker 1: the giants, he encountered the giants in Aruba and he
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  Speaker 1: details it. But after that encounter he said that he
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  Speaker 1: thought he was going to die the day he met
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  Speaker 1: the giants, because that's how big they were, informidable. And
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  Speaker 1: yet he had just come from an island where someone
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  Speaker 1: was being a human was being cooked over a fire
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  Speaker 1: on a spit, but that he wasn't nervous about that,
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  Speaker 1: but the giants really really scared him. And he details
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  Speaker 1: and grape depth about coming to the island from mainland Venezuela,
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  Speaker 1: which by the way, for a backstory and which would
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  Speaker 1: be a whole wonderful, amazing book if I had the time.
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  Speaker 1: Columbus was actually the first person to hear about Aruba.
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  Speaker 1: He heard about Aruba from the mainland Arowak from Venezuela,
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  Speaker 1: and they told Columbus that there was gold in Aruba
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  Speaker 1: and that there were giants. So when he went back
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  Speaker 1: to Europe, Columbus he told the Medici brothers, they were
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  Speaker 1: the ones financing all of these journeys. Oh you know,
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  Speaker 1: next time, we're going to go to Aruba and we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna They're okay, we're going to have a little problem
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  Speaker 1: with giants, but there's gold there. And so what Amerigo
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  Speaker 1: Vespucci did is he married one of the Medici daughters
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  Speaker 1: and basically framed Columbus and said he embezzled money from
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  Speaker 1: the Medicis, and he and Marigo Vespucci was awarded the
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  Speaker 1: permit to come to the New World. So he was
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  Speaker 1: he Actually, you know that you have to think about
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  Speaker 1: what went on there. But and that could be a
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  Speaker 1: whole other book and a whole drama in and of itself.
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  Speaker 5: That's something interesting. You said, the Medici family. Correct, Sorry
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  Speaker 5: to interrupt, you said the Medici family. I'm sorry, you
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  Speaker 5: said the Medici is correct. Yes, I just recently had
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  Speaker 5: covered a Marsilio Ficino. He was kind of like a
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I would say he's gonna cult this an
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  Speaker 5: alchemist and he was also a Catholic priest at one point.
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  Speaker 5: And he the only reason he got to where he
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  Speaker 5: was going is because the Medici family funded him. His
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  Speaker 5: father worked for the Medici family, so he was able to,
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  Speaker 5: like Yo, they gave him money to open up schools everything.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, very interesting. You know, there's still powerful to this day,
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  Speaker 1: there's still an active family. There's still powerful with one
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  Speaker 1: of the wealthiest families ever on earth in modern times. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: so they So when Vespucci came, he came to he
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  Speaker 1: had a small ship. He left the bigger ship over
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  Speaker 1: in the mainland of South America and came over to
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  Speaker 1: Aruba and immediately noticed footprints in the sand, giant footprints
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  Speaker 1: in the sand, and of course the men were intrigued.
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  Speaker 1: They already had heard that there were giants on the island.
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  Speaker 1: The people on the mainland told him that there were giants,
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  Speaker 1: but they were generally peaceful unless they felt threatened, and
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  Speaker 1: then they were not peaceful anymore. And he also heard,
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  Speaker 1: interestingly that they worshiped the sun, which is very interesting,
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  Speaker 1: and so he came over. He sees the footprints, and
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  Speaker 1: he and the team they start to follow the footprints
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  Speaker 1: and they come across these women, and there is an
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  Speaker 1: older woman and what looks like a mother, and then
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  Speaker 1: two teenage girls. And the men are shocked at the
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  Speaker 1: size of even the teenage girls. He describes them as giants,
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  Speaker 1: that they were naked, that they seemed wild, they couldn't speak.
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  Speaker 1: They were drinking brackish water, which is interesting because if
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  Speaker 1: you live in a place like a Ruba, drinking brackish
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  Speaker 1: water is probably one of the smartest things you can do,
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  Speaker 1: because you're losing so much salt constantly in this tremendous heat.
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  Speaker 1: So he then follows the women and the girls into
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  Speaker 1: their village, and so they have this full blown village
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  Speaker 1: which I know exactly where Espucci came in on the island.
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  Speaker 1: I know exactly where the village was. I know there's
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  Speaker 1: pottery still there, most advanced pottery I've ever seen in
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  Speaker 1: my life. And I could go on about that site.
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  Speaker 1: That site is just incredible. And so then he's the
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  Speaker 1: men that are like, okay, let's steal the two teenage
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  Speaker 1: girls and bring them back to Europe because they're so
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  Speaker 1: you know, they're giants, They're giant girls. So as they're
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  Speaker 1: coming up with this plan, all of a sudden, thirty
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  Speaker 1: six men come into the camp and they have these
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  Speaker 1: massive weapons, weapons so large. He goes on to describe
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  Speaker 1: them and says, I can't I wouldn't even be able
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  Speaker 1: to hold them, to carry them, to pick them up myself.
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  Speaker 1: They're trying to imagine what could these weapons? Even before
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  Speaker 1: what were they doing. And the men were so large,
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  Speaker 1: he said, even if they were kneeling and I were standing,
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  Speaker 1: they would still be taller than me. So he they
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  Speaker 1: immediately abort mission on stealing the girls, and they decide
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  Speaker 1: to just go back to the boat. They're so terrified
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  Speaker 1: they don't want to do more any further. They forgot
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  Speaker 1: about the gold so as they're going back to the ship,
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  Speaker 1: right behind them are the giants. And the giants are
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  Speaker 1: so tall that even when the men get back on
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  Speaker 1: the ship, they're still walking in the water. The giants
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  Speaker 1: are still walking in the water and above the water
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  Speaker 1: because they're so tall. So viz Bucci gets so freaked
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  Speaker 1: out he orders his men to shoot off cannons to
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  Speaker 1: scare them, and that was the only way they retreated.
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  Speaker 1: And at the end of this letter he's writing, he says,
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  Speaker 1: so I call this island the Islands of the Giants
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  Speaker 1: due to the large statued people who live there. And
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  Speaker 1: so that was the beginning of me realizing, wow, this
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  Speaker 1: was called the island of the giants. So then I
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  Speaker 1: found a map from fifteen o two. How the map
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  Speaker 1: is Mundy and it's by one de la Cosa, And
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  Speaker 1: on the map it actually has Aruba noted as the
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  Speaker 1: island of the giants. And so the giants weren't just
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  Speaker 1: here in Aruba, though they were also in Bonaire and Currasau,
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  Speaker 1: which are all three islands. Were one island that were
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  Speaker 1: torn apart by a series of three mega tsunamis starting
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  Speaker 1: in five hundred BC to thirty five hundred BC, and
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  Speaker 1: so these mega tsunamis geologically show that the islands were
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  Speaker 1: once one and now are consequently three different islands, and
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  Speaker 1: so these giants were on all three islands. They had
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  Speaker 1: elongated skulls, massive bodies, massive bones, big teeth. They were
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  Speaker 1: big people. They were not skinny people, and they were
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  Speaker 1: not like NBA players. They were very large, heavy people.
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  Speaker 1: Their bones are much thicker than ours. Their teeth were
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  Speaker 1: different than ours, they had shovel shaped teeth. Their heads
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  Speaker 1: were naturally elongated, as proven in the archaeological reports, because
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  Speaker 1: not only did they find a fetus that had an
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  Speaker 1: elongated skull, and it takes at least six months to
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  Speaker 1: make a fetus elongated. If the fetus does not is
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  Speaker 1: not born with an elongated skull, if you're just doing
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  Speaker 1: head binding, the headboarding and all that, you would have
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  Speaker 1: to wait six months for the skull to form into
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  Speaker 1: that egg shape, for example. But this fetus already had
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  Speaker 1: an elongated skull and there was no evidence of head
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  Speaker 1: binding had with the headboards. No, the archaeologists were searching
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  Speaker 1: for it. They wanted they wanted to find evidence that
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  Speaker 1: this wasn't a natural occurrence because they couldn't believe these
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  Speaker 1: people were born with elongated skulls. They had very very
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  Speaker 1: complex rituals of death, their their their rituals of death
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  Speaker 1: were to me far exceed their rituals of life. I
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  Speaker 1: think they solely focused on the afterlife. And and yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they have tons of evidence still here right in front
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  Speaker 1: of our faces. People will be on a beach and
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  Speaker 1: not realized there right behind a Kneian burial ground with
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  Speaker 1: like hundreds of bodies of giants still in the ground,
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  Speaker 1: which is even more incredible. And there's actually even a
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  Speaker 1: giant skeleton on display on the island of Bonaire in
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  Speaker 1: their archaeology museum right now to this day. I just
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  Speaker 1: recently saw it a year ago. I tried to check
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  Speaker 1: up on it every now and then, and the government
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  Speaker 1: admits it was a giant. So that's how I got
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  Speaker 1: into the giants. It drew me in just from learning
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  Speaker 1: about the history of Aruba, putting together a tour company,
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  Speaker 1: which I had another tour company before that was more
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  Speaker 1: Jeeps and Harley Davidson's and through that tour company and
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  Speaker 1: trying to put together an accurate tour is when I
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  Speaker 1: just came across all this information and the more I
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  Speaker 1: unraveled a mystery, another mystery occurred, another mystery occurred, and
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  Speaker 1: it got me so intrigued and wondering, you know, what
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  Speaker 1: more is it to about the giants, about their rituals
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  Speaker 1: and their burials, and to know that even though the
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  Speaker 1: giants were here probably about seven five thousand to seven
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  Speaker 1: thousand years ago, they still left a lot of evidence
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  Speaker 1: on these islands that is still you can still uncover
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  Speaker 1: and explore and learn about.
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  Speaker 8: Was there some kind of an extinction event, like what happened?
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  Speaker 6: Like what what happened to the giants?
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's a good question. So in two thousand and
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  Speaker 1: two there was a report done by geneticists here on
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  Speaker 1: the island where they chose only certain people to test,
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  Speaker 1: and these people had to because a roupit it is
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: a very aurplace. They didn't have a large slave presence,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: so there weren't a lot of genetic people with different
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: genomes coming in and mixing with the population. This is
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: a very closed island in that sense, so the genetics
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: of the people are pretty intense to when they were
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: basically here before Amerigo Vespucci. So they did an analysis
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: of people who only had from going back to their
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: great great great grandmother. No one could have left the island.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Everyone had to be on the island have all on
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Reuben heritage. And so they came up with a pretty
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: good sample size of people, and they tested their genetics,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: and they found that they had an ad mixture of
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: an ancient DNA that they could not specifically attach to
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: any one group of people. And it was the conclusion
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: of the geneticists that this was the basically the genetics
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: of the giants, of this archaic race of people that
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: were here before more mainland people from Venezuela than eventually
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: came over. And so what this means and what I've determined,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: and I think it's pretty much accurate, is that the
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: giants began to die out. There's a berthing chamber not
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: far from here of where the giants were giving birth,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: and you can see on the wall the ticks of
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: how many births they had, and they didn't have a
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: lot of berths. I think because they were giants having babies.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of complications involved with giants
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: having babies, and they were clearly the dominant elite class
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: of people ruling on the island. I think eventually What
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: happened was they were dying out and they began to
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: breed with the average statued people on the island who
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: had a later period, people who had come from Venezuela, Colombia,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: the northern coastline of South America. And because of that,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: that is why I believe the ancient DNA is still
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: alive in the people. Because it was a matter of survival.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: They rather than die out, they just made it themselves
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: out and then became average statuted. But you can still
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: talk to people on the island who will tell you
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: about uncles from a long time ago who were giants.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: There were huge people, and they have big hands and
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: big jaws, and everything about them was big. As a
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: matter of fact, one of my friends told me a
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: story about a great uncle she had who was a boxer.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: He was so big. He was a boxer in South
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: America and he was so powerful he ended up killing
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: someone in the ring and they couldn't let him box anymore,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: and she swore he was a giant. And you'll hear
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: stories about people from people here who are a real
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: old time of Rubens, who tell you the stories about
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: how they had this one person in their family who
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: was just massive. So maybe there was some genetic recall
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: that occurred and the giant came out more predominantly. I
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: don't know, but it's pretty interesting. So I think that's
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: what happened to the giants. I think it made the
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: most sense.
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: Was there birthing area shaped like a honeycomb? I'm curious.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Well, I guess you could say that because it's in
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: a cave system. I'm actually looking right at the cave system.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: It's a cave system with many caves. Each cave had
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: a specific function. One cave had burials, and the burials
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: were very bizarre. There was a giant in the middle
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: of the burial, and then the rest of the people
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: were like spokes in a wheel coming out. You'll also
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: see that type of description of a burial from the mounds.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: I know you have spoken I believe to Gregory Little,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: and he also has mentioned in some of these mounds
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: they found remains of giants and they were buried like
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: spokes in a wheel, with one central burial that occurs there.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Then you have one part of the cave where they
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: were actually living. You can see those oyster shells and
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: conch shells and all extinct fossils of shell life that
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: wasn't no longer exist, but did at the time of
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: the giants. And then you'll see a couple of caves
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: with drawings, all sorts of drawings, and in those caves
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: are just drawings, and then in the birthing chamber, it's
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: just the birthing chamber. So you'll see there's a drawing
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: of a mother and she, excuse me, she has a veil,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: and she has a baby in her stomach, and she
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: there's a cup mark cut out of the stone of
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: the limestone of where her belly button would be which
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: and also of her eye, and then next to her
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: are all these slashes. And due to the analysis of
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: that one specific petroglyph of this veiled woman with the baby,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: I found a report done by Harvard in nineteen seventy
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: one who came to these caves to look at them.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: They were actually studying the extinct shell life that they
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: had found in the one cave that was being habitated
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: by the giants, and they recognized this petroglyph as being
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: something that's found worldwide, and so they immediately called it
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: the pregnant mother glyph. And after I researched that further,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: I found that there's drawings of this pregnant woman globally,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: including as far away as Japan, So so to me,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: I think it's one of burial chamber. It makes sense.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: It's secluded, it's hard to get to. It was a
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: matriarchal society as well, so I think that they were
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: very protective of their their births, especially if this is
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: an elite class. I'm sure they had a lot of enemies.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: So so you could you could say that it was
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: like a honeycomb because it is in a cave system,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: and are all parts of the cave that you can
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: go around and crawl.
• 25:45
  Speaker 7: Through, and it's very I know this is random, but
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: is there any pictures of Pazuzu in that room?
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: I'm sorry, Any deities, Like any deities.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: You know, the closest thing to understanding what the most
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: of them are geometric patterns. To be honest, there's nothing
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: that she is. The only specific like you can tell
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: she's a human or human like and and she's you
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: could right away you could tell it's a it's a
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: human like form. But other than that, it's a lot
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: of geometric patterns. Nothing that you could specifically say is
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: a figure or something that you can attribute to another
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: type of drunk. It's kind of geometric patterns, which you've
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: probably seen globally as well. It's kind of that repetitive
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: geometric patterns of the swatsticker, but the old right, the
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: ancient way of the drawing. And then a lot of
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: dots and you know, things like of that nature, diamond shapes,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: wavy lines, things like that type of thing. It's a
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: rather complex petroglyphs site. And sadly, since I've been going there,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: now a lot of tours go there. I don't take
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: tours there because it's such a dangerous hike. I don't.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: I can't even believe tours go there. I would not
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: want that liability. But they take tours up there, and
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: now everyone breathing and everything now has degraded the quality
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: of the drawings, which is really a shame. And now
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: someone has begun amateur excavating in the caves, I guess,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: looking for giants, and then there's some like some like
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: voodoo going on in there, and so it's like it's
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: just very very sad. So I'm yes, yeah, Ruba doesn't
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: protect it. There's nothing I can do, and so that's
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: that's going to inevitably happen to sites that aren't protected. Sadly.
• 27:48
  Speaker 10: I have a quick question, do you know about the
• 27:51
  Speaker 10: Patagonian giants that were reported by European explorers for like
• 27:55
  Speaker 10: three hundred years of interactions. Would these giant be in
• 28:00
  Speaker 10: any way related to them or is there sort of
• 28:03
  Speaker 10: a network between these different civilizations.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: That's a great question because you know the proximity, we're
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: right by South America. I always tend to think like
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: I think all of the giants might have had some
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: sort of genetic connection. I mean, they were just so strange.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: A lot of them had red hair. The giants here,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: the archaeological reports show were light skinned and light hair.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: They were not Native American and that's a pattern. You
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: find a lot with these giants that they're not there
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: kind of light skin, light hair. I believe the Patagonian
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: giants were worth the same. Even Darwin. Charles Darwin met
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: with the Patagonian giants. And that's why people it's so frustrating,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: people saying why is there a suppression of the giants?
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: And I you know, and people always say, oh, it's
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: because of Darwinism. You know, Charles now everyone's at Charles
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Darwin and trying to protect Charles Darwin. I mean, it
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: doesn't even make sense because Charles Darwin writes about I've
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: read his writings. He writes about the Patagonian giants, and
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: he is amazed that the genetics of the giants and
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: how it seems to be a whole different race of
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: people different from Homo sapien sapien, and so he's mystified
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: by it and he accepts it, and that's something that
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: he was intrigued by. It was one of the most
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: fascinating parts, he said, of his research with studying the giants.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: So it's clearly not anything to do with, you know,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: standing for Charles Darwin. But I think for sure there
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: in my mind there has to be some sort of
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: genetic connection because they're all contemporaneous to one another. So
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: to me, I think they were they were connected, But
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: I don't have any proof, but just a hunch based
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: off of my knowledge.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: I think they were definitely connected.
• 29:56
  Speaker 9: I mean, I'm looking at you said Vespucci came to
• 29:58
  Speaker 9: your island in fourteen ninety nine, and uh, in my research,
• 30:04
  Speaker 9: I found that these giants were like pretty much all
• 30:06
  Speaker 9: up and down the coast there of South America.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: I've got a list here. This is from an episode
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: I never put out, so I just pulled it up.
• 30:13
  Speaker 9: But it's like Pigafeta was in the fifteen twenties, he
• 30:16
  Speaker 9: recorded a giant Magellan, same time period recorded a giant.
• 30:20
  Speaker 9: Sebastian Munster fifteen forty four, recorded one Thomas Cavendish fifteen
• 30:26
  Speaker 9: eighty seven, Subalt de Wert fifteen sixty seven. And it
• 30:30
  Speaker 9: just the list just keeps going on and then and
• 30:32
  Speaker 9: even into the seventeen hundreds. Even the speaking of Darwin.
• 30:36
  Speaker 9: The people who really really pushed for Darwin the most,
• 30:39
  Speaker 9: the Royal Society, the British Rural Society. They even said that,
• 30:44
  Speaker 9: you know, the existence of giants has confirmed in like
• 30:47
  Speaker 9: a seventeen sixty six paper that they published. So it's
• 30:51
  Speaker 9: it was all down that coast. There's got to be
• 30:53
  Speaker 9: a connection. But I think you're definitely in a honeypot there.
• 30:56
  Speaker 9: I think those islands there is like I don't know,
• 31:00
  Speaker 9: like there's a book called History and Conquest of Mexico
• 31:03
  Speaker 9: that deals with your area of the world because they
• 31:05
  Speaker 9: came through there. I'm sure you know about that, yes, yes,
• 31:09
  Speaker 9: but what about other islands nearby. Is there like untapped
• 31:13
  Speaker 9: giant research to be.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Done, Yes, and I just started doing that. It's almost overwhelming.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: So I just came across the paper last week I
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: think it was last week or a week and a
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: half ago of these different figures found all across the Caribbean,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: and the most fascinating figurines are from Martinique and Saint Lucia.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: We also have very strange figurines here, I mean very
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: very strange, with three fingers and strange eyes. They don't
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: appear to be human, but they're human like they have
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: like they're they're in a kneeling positions. Yes, it's right exactly.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: That's when I saw those those mummies. It's a and
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: you know Peru is not far from here. I mean
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: when I saw those mummies, I was like, my god,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: the statues here all have three fingers. I mean, it
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: just was like, now the story is getting even crazi
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: or crazier, Like it just doesn't stop at giants. You know,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: there were it was a genetic soup here and yeah,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: so now I came across all these pictures in the
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: archaeological record of what I've been to Easter island that
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: they look like moi, I mean elongated skulls. They have
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: their hands in the same position, which is, you know,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: on their bellies. It's interesting. One of the figurines almost
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: looks olmec, which is very strange, and another has a
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: hump on its back, which is quite interesting. Because the
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: prime the most prominent burial in one of the largest
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Caribbean ancient cemeteries, which is here in Aruba. It's called Melmuk.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: It's the Malmuk Cemetery. It's a protected area, thank goodness.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: But it's filled with shell middens with ancient bodies in
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: them that during the pandemic that were just leveled and
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: big mansions built there. So sadly no one is maintaining
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: these sites and they're slowly being to destroyed. But the
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: central burial is a female and she's also considered the
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: oldest one in the entire group of all the burials.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: They are only on earth seventy two burials, but stopped
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: there because they just I guess ran out of funding
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: or time or but there's hundreds of more bodies buried
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: in that cemetery and she was the most complex burial,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: so they determined her to be the leader of the
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: entire tribe. And she also had a hump back. She
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: had a hump on her back, and she was given
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: the most elite burial with grave gifts and huge shells
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: of sea turtle on her and she was elevated on
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: a platform in the center of the entire cemetery. And
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: so it was interesting to see this figurine in Saint
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Lucia that also had this hump back. So I wonder, now,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: you know, do the other islands also hopes the secrets
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: of the giants. I can't imagine them just staying here
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: in Aruba now in Bonaire end in Currosau. But I
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: do know and the archaeologist archaeologists have stated that there
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: was a breakaway civilization of the giants and two and
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: they moved to two locations. The one location was at
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: the caves in Cuba, which I love to go to.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: They found the same type of burials with the central
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: burial and then the other people like spokes in the wheel. Also,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: the giants were obsessed with Isosceles triangles, I mean crazy
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: obsessed on their tools. Today you could still see they
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: would etch in Isosceles triangles. Their burials were in the
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: forms of Isoceles triangles. So when they went to these
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: caves in Cuba, they saw the same thing, these burials
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: in the shape of Isoceles triangles. And they also determined
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: that the skeletons were the same with the elongated skull
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: and the giant bones, and they found the same situation
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: in Colombia, a small, small area of Columbia. So I
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: think in the archaeologists believe these were two breakaway civilizations
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: that started here and down here in a rub of
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: bon air, cures out and then branched off to these
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: other locations. But there's so much work to be done
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: in these other Caribbean islands, and sadly, you know, there's
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: not a lot of archaeology being done. There's a lot
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: of the I mean, it's taken me years to amass
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: all the archaeological reports, field notes, photographs of the giants,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: a lot of money, a lot of time I've had
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: to go with. Interestingly, a lot of these archaeological reports
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: are in medical libraries at universities, which is quite interesting
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: to me. I mean, why if these giants aren't real,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: why do you have books archaeological reports on the giants
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: and a medical life, right, I've met of medical universities.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense.
• 36:11
  Speaker 11: So throwing people off the trail.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: So yeah, well, I think I think they want to
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: educate people about the giants personally, I think they want
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: them to know. Yeah, look there were giants too, you know.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: But the fact is, like, I mean, why they're so
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: hard to get these reports. I mean they're so hard
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: and it's cost me money or in an amount of time.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: I think that now I'm way over one hundred archaeological reports.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: So so yeah, it's it's it's interesting that it's almost
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: been Yeah, yeah, to throw people off the trail, for sure,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: But also I think to hide these things and play
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: in sight as well. So I would love to do
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: more research on the other islands and looking at their
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: artifacts as the first step, but each island has such
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: a complicated story, you know, with archaeology and how much
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: you can research, and so then I'll my main focus
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: will always be these three islands, and then I will
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: always try to find more information on the other islands
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: too as I can, but it's such a big job
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: and I believe I'm the only person in the Caribbean
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: studying the giants. But through my research, I'm learning more
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: about the other giants that or potential giants that existed
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: in the islands as well.
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: I have a question for you.
• 37:32
  Speaker 8: So you do the tours, you live there, obviously you've
• 37:34
  Speaker 8: been studying it for a very long time. But can
• 37:38
  Speaker 8: you explain like when you go to these sites, is
• 37:42
  Speaker 8: there a feeling like do you get any vibe, like
• 37:46
  Speaker 8: is it a dark feeling?
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: Is it like.
• 37:48
  Speaker 8: A astounding kind of like, oh my god, these things
• 37:54
  Speaker 8: were here and like I'm walking amongst like the remains
• 37:57
  Speaker 8: of you know, what, what does it feel like?
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Like, what's what's that like? Well, yeah, I have to
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: tell you. One of the sites that for sure is haunted.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know the land is haunted. It's funny
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: because now they're building a house in this one area
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: that is I've had the craziest, spookiest like wig out
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: like crazy, like I got to get out of here
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: experience it. I mean, really scary. You get really nervous,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: especially if you're by yourself. You know, you could get
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: in your head. But it's a very strange feeling. And
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: there's a couple of places generally associated with the caves,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: and there's this one area and you know, I was
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: at the beach and there are these little beach huts
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: set up, and I was the only person at the beach,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: and I'm sitting there just relaxing. I'm not even listening
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: to music, just looking at the water and you know,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: and and all of a sudden, I heard like a
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: knocking on the side of the wall of the beach hut,
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: and I was like, what is this? So I thought
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: it was the wind, and then there was one on
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: the other side, and then one on the other side.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: So I jump up. I'm running around and looking, but
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: there's no one there. I mean, I'm in the middle
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: of nowhere. And then I would sit down and then
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: then knocking would happen again, and then I'd get up
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: and run around, and then it would go away, and
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: then it was knocking on all sides. I was like,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, this place is haunted. And since then,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: I have met many families in Aruba, actually, and I
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: interviewed a couple of them and recorded it who told
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: me about that exact site and that they had they
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: saw very tall ghosts, very tall shadows. They didn't even
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: know anything about the giants, and they were just telling
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: me the ghost encounters that they had had and that
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: they were the first thing I say, they were so tall,
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: and I said, do you know this island was called
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: the Islands of the Giants? You know that it was
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: probably the ghost of the giants. And not far from
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: there as a house that when I was moving here,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: I thought, Oh, it's such a beautiful home. I would
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: love to rent it. And it came up when I
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: I was still living in New York. It came up
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: for a rental and then it like it was rented
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: right away because it was so cheap, which was another
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: I was the wife's house so cheap, But then it
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: went right back on the market, and then it went
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: off the market. And so once I got here, I
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: realized the problem was that it was the house is haunted,
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: that the people were hearing babies crying and knocking and
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: things were falling, and so they could never keep people
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: in the house. And now it's totally abandoned, and next
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: to it now they're starting to build a new house.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: And I said to my friend that that house isn't
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: going to make it either, because it's the land that's haunted.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: It's not the house, it's the actual land. So there's
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: that place, and then yeah, there's another cave that in
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: that cave actually specifically also it's a height you have
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: to climb up into the caves. All these caves are
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: at the top of giant, giant limestone bluffs and you
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: have to climb up them. It's very difficult and very dangerous,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: and as you're walking to go to begin your ascent,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: you feel someone behind you all the time. And the
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: crazy part is I was needing someone to start the
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: hike and they were late, so I figured, well, I'll
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: just go to the base of the cave and then
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: just wait and then we'll walk together, because it's dangerous
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: and I don't want to do it alone in case
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: one of us falls or I fall, and then I'll
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: be stuck up there. So as I was walking, I
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: kept sitting looking behind me, thinking someone's behind me, someone's
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: behind me. And then my friend came and he said,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: I said, did you feel like weird? He said, it
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: took me so long because I kept going back and
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: thinking like someone was hiding behind me. And then a
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: friend actually came from the Netherlands recently and he said,
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: have you been to that cave? It's really creepy, always
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: feels like people watching you. And so, yeah, that cave
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: is really weird because in that cave was found three
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: burials of three females and two monkeys. And the monkeys,
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: which are not indigenous to Aruba, we're giving a leap burials,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: which is very strange and by elite burial. Basically what
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: would happen? These people were obsessed with death. This was
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: a massive culture of death because the cemetery where they
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: eventually would bury all the bodies is most of the
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: year covered with water, so it's only about a couple
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: of maybe five weeks of the year that you can
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: bury bodies in that cemetery. They so if you died
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: in December, which is rainy season, I mean, what are
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: you going to do? You're not going in that graveyard.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: So they would, I believe, And now studying cultures that
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: are similar in proximity and culture to the ritual to
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: the giants, I believe they kept the bodies out and
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: let them be eaten by you know, animals such as
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: like the Parsi do with their Tower of Death when
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: they put the bodies at the top and let the vultures.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: In India, they let them eat the bodies. I think
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: that's what happened, because after the body became skeletal, they
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: would take where this island is filled with manganese and
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: they would take the locally sourced manganese and make it
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: into a paste and cover all the elongated part of
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: the skull with this okra color. And the monkeys also
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: had this okra on their skulls. It was so crazy,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: they were so these monkeys were giving like these elite
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: barrows with these three women. One was like an older woman,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: like a mother maybe, and then the two were younger females.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: And it's believed because it's a matriarchal society and if
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: they were a shaman, for example, they probably couldn't be
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: around men, and perhaps they were training the monkeys to
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: assist them. I've been to India and if you go
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: to Kujurajo on the temples in India, you will see
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: the devadasis. The devadasis where the holy women. They were
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: women that only the priests could interact with. They couldn't
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: be around men, had to be chased, chase chaste, and
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: they the only thing that could assist them were these
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: trained monkeys. And you'll see on the reliefs on these temples.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: The women are getting like the ready to do a
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: dance or ritual dance, but they're putting on their makeup
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: and the monkey will be holding like a palette of
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: makeup or a makeup brush or helping them put bells
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: on their ankles. So I immediately And in ancient Egypt
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: it's the same. Also also in Peru, monkeys were used
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: for the females to help them assist in their female
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: duties because they couldn't really be seen by anyone else
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: because there was so everyone's so afraid someone would take
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: their power, and so the monkey was really became a
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: part of their family. So there were There's actually another
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: burial there also, so it could be there are three
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: monkeys there, there were only female. They all are filled
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: with okra. The entire opening of the cave is filled
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: with okra. And I have pictures of this on my Instagram,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: on my Facebook. I don't know if I posted in
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: on X and you'll see the entire front of the
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: cave it's just red, this red okra. It's also a
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: summer solstice marker. On the summer solstice morning, the sun
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: will come up and shine of its light right on
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: the main grave, the main burial of the central female,
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: and it was there where she was with a monkey
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: as well. So that's another eerie place. And then we've
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: also been photos when I've gotten home and looked at
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: my phots, strange lights, strange orbs, orbs that look like barcodes,
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: orbs that like are rainbow orbs but in a circle,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: very strange. I've never experienced that. And I've been to
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: very strange places, for example, like the megalithic chambers of
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: New York and New England, which have very strange, strange
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: things going on in there. I mean, I've had all
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: my equipment during their batteries, during my phone, dream, my
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: watch stop. It's just very strange things. But the strangest
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: stuff I've had happen is here in Aruba.
• 46:09
  Speaker 9: That's what Frince Zimmerman talks about, the paranormal activity connected
• 46:14
  Speaker 9: to mounds.
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: What about these caves though, you talked about these caves
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: in Cuba. That's very interesting.
• 46:20
  Speaker 9: I've heard there's tunnels from the caves in Cuba up
• 46:23
  Speaker 9: to Florida.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: Do you think you guys have those down there in Aruba?
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: The tunnel very funny you say that yes, as a
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: matter of fact, some of another creepy, weird story. So
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: there is in the National Park there's a cave that
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: I've been dying to go to. But it's a privately
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: owned cave. So anyone who owned property was in the
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: National Park before it became a National Park with grandfathered in,
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: so they got to keep their land. And so a
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: lot of people eventually ended up just selling it to
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: the government because it's such a very difficult place to
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: try to function. It's very remote, dirt road, no water,
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: no services, nothing, so so eventually, but this cave still
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: remains in private hands and it is closed and this
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: is called this cave incidentally is called the Tunnel of
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: Love and the story and it's in the newspapers. You
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: can look it up, so you have to do a
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: lot of digging. I had the article, but I'll try
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: to find it and post it. This cave was very
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: strange because at an entire boy Scout group went with
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: a I believe was a Dutch researcher Aruba Bonarakure style
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands. So there's a
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: lot of the history is connected to the Dutch in
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: terms of their investigations, and so they took a boy
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: scout group to the Tunnel of Love, which is called Hullabaloo,
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: it's like the ancient name, but then they called the
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: Tunnel of Love. So anyway, they parked outside, they were
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: in these school buses and they all went in the
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: cave and they never came out again. And they have
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: in the in the report in the new newspaper, just
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: the school buses still lined up and no one came
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: out of the caves ever, and they never found them.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: They even had streng come on what Yes, I have
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: to look up the article. It was in the local newspaper.
• 48:19
  Speaker 6: Disappeared trace.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: The creepiest part is seeing just the school buses parked outside.
• 48:26
  Speaker 6: Hell yeah, way strange.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: So that cave has been closed ever since. So it
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: is rumor that that cave goes all the way to Venezuela,
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: that you can actually walk in that cave. Now, I
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: told this story on a podcast and I used to
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: date the head of CHY. My ex boyfriend is the
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: head of archaeology here in Aruba. So just so you
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: know a lot of this stuff I tell you he's
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: told me, but doesn't want to tell it himself because
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: he's an archaeologist, so he doesn't want to taint his halo,
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: so he funnel information to me. And so now it's
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: so crazy. So now he's telling us so he was
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: on a punt. Now he's starting to podcasts, but he
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: does him locally. Okay, that's nice. But now he's using
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: my information and acting like it's you know. So now
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: he's telling people that that cave did go to Venezuela.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: So just recently he admitted that that cave went to
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: Venezuela after everyone saying, no, that's a story, it's a myth.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: And then people started saying, well, what about the boy Scouts?
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: Where did they go? What happened to the boy Scouts?
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: I mean they didn't disappear. It could also be a portal.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, who knows, you know, I.
• 49:38
  Speaker 8: Means, all right, that's that's another question I was going
• 49:42
  Speaker 8: to ask you, Actually, you know it could be portal.
• 49:45
  Speaker 8: But do you think that there are pockets of these
• 49:48
  Speaker 8: let's just say, survivors that went underground?
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: Do you think that.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: Too?
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: Because okay, this is another crazy story. So culture, I swear,
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: I swear you could look it up. This is in
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: the new This one's in the news. This one was
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: on television here on the news. So there's a guy
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: here who was a firefighter and he wanted to be
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: in the Guinness Book of World Records. So right before
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: the pandemic, I believe, and even I think, going into
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: the pandemic, he went and lived in a cave. So
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: he lived in this cave for one hundred days. And
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: this cave is very complex, another complex with all these
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: different rooms and stuff. But he was in one of
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: the primary rooms because there was a hole so he
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: could get oxygen, but the rest of it you would
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: probably lose oxygen very quickly. So at night he was
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: obviously sleeping in the cave and there were people posted
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: outside to make sure he wasn't cheating, essentially because he
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: was trying to get into the Guinness Brookle World Records.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: But I don't I don't actually know what happened. Then
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: there was some sort of controversy, but eventually he did
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: not get into the Innisbrookle World Record. But when he
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: came out, first of all, he looked horrible. I mean,
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: I know, I mean it was all there was like
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: the guy, I mean, he looked like, I mean, he
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: was a healthy, guy, was a firefighter. He came out.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: I mean it looked like he looked like a ghost,
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: to be honest. And he told the story and I
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: have it. I've actually posted about on my Facebook several
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: times about his fighting every night with bigfoots, with these
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: giant bigfoots that would come and like and he has
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: a video of them, and he tried to get a
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: video of them, and he had it was on the
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: news here. He it was like this creature and they
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: would take him to a room with other bigfoots where
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: even though it was black, there was a light in
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: the center and they would tell him messages like telepathically,
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: like all these messages, and he kept saying, stop taking me,
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: and there's like we were going to keep you. And
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: there was threatened. They were they were quite aggressive. They
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: wanted him to leave, especially they wanted him out.
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: Of the cave.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: So interesting. There is a cave system, another cave system
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: not far from there, of a series of three caves,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: and in every cave are these giant paintings. Ancient. They're
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: they're been termined to be determined archaeologically to be archaic
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: at least seven thousand years old of bigfoot, giant bigfoot well,
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: a giant with their arms. You can see their hair.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: How they made this so and and and it's at
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: the mouths of these three caves. So one of the
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: bigfoot is reaching out trying to grab you. It's very
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: It's another place with eerie, creepy feelings. You'll get a
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: very strange, heavy feeling when you go to this cave.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: It's very it's nerve wracking. It's a strange place. It's
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: protected by a giant beehive of killer bees. It's very strange.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: And all over lining all three of the caves are
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: these giant paintings of these bigfoots. And I have photos
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: of them on my social media as well as a
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: screenshot of the video that was shown on the news
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: channel here of the video the man took when he
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: was living in the cave of the strange bigfoot. He
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: was fighting every night. So I'm only I'm always wondering,
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: is there a connection between the giants? Did they go
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: into ground and become these like strange bers. I don't.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but it's a very interesting correlation between
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: him seeing these creatures and he didn't know about those caves.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: Most people in the room but don't know about the
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: caves with the drawings of the bigfoots, which is good
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: because you want to keep it that way because although
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: it's on in the National Park last time I went,
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: there's now graffiti on the walls, et cetera.
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: So there's a there's a case in Russia that I
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: looked at. It's called the Russian wood Goblins, and it's
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: the same sort of thing.
• 53:53
  Speaker 9: There's also portals too, going back to that, but there's
• 53:56
  Speaker 9: it's a weird section of Russia where they see these
• 53:59
  Speaker 9: big foot like creatures. There's Dolmens in the area, and
• 54:04
  Speaker 9: there's cases of missing time and there's cases of people
• 54:07
  Speaker 9: who go into a poral and don't return for twenty years.
• 54:10
  Speaker 9: But you also have the big foot aspect of it
• 54:13
  Speaker 9: too and the dolmens. But I was gonna ask you
• 54:15
  Speaker 9: are there dolmens around?
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: Yes, I found I've mapped now I think I'm up
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: to thirteen on the island. A lot of them are
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: on private property, so it's just depends on someone saying,
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: you know, I think, or they don't even realize that
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: they're always looking at this stone and until I start
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: posting things and they see my work, then they all
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: of a sudden say hey, I think I have a
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: strange stone on my property too. So when since I've
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: moved back here, I've been saying that people have been
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: so gracious and invited me onto their property and allowed
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: me to at least take photos. I don't say where
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: the stones are, especially if it's private property, but I
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: do have them mapped. I have them mapped on Google Earth.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: And incidentally, all of the balance stones and Dolman we
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: have here, and the balance stones in particular, all form
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: a pattern and they go from northwest to southeast intersection,
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: inter secting the island in three parallel lines. And this
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: is a pattern that was also noted by the archaeologists
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: as where the Petroglyff sites are. So if you and
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: they did map all the Petrocgliff sites, they also follow
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: a northwest to southeast pattern. These Dolman and standing stones
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: and balance stones also follow a northwest to northeast pattern.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: They connect each other. And also in the burials, the
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: people were facing from northwest to southeast. That's how they
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: were buried.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: So the.
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: Fault lines of Aruba also run northwest to southeast. So
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: I think there is a we have I mean, we
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: have an earthquake just a couple of days ago. We
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: are in a very hot, hot seismic zone here in Aruba,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: and there was just a I don't know if you
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: heard about an earthquake in Bogata, Columbia. We felt it here.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: So and that was like a six point something earthquake.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: So we're in a very hot seizemic zone. So it's
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: it's not the first place on Earth where these dolmen
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: and bound stones have been coordinating with fault lines. We
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: see this also with the in Salem, New York. I
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: don't know if you have ever in North Salem, New York.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: There's this balanced stone. It's like pink granite, and it's
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: on these three little tiny quartz stones, and it's also
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: right next to a fault line. And if you are
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: to listen to the legends of seeing Native Americans in
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: for example, Arizona, the Zooni, for example, they will tell
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: you that those fault lines are poor. That's what initiates
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: the portal to begin and give the power to the portal.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: So and and the archaeologist told me at one site.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: We have another site here called the Io Rock Formation,
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: which is just strange rocks, all rock balanced and I
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: also Petrogs there that he told me because I was.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: I was staying at an airbnb before I moved there,
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: right at the base of this Io rock formation because
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: it's so beautiful, very but I kept having nightmares, like
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: every night, having nightmares. And I had him over for
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: dinner and I said, you know, nice, so many nights
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: I'm walking around with sage and freaking out over here.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: And he goes, well, what do you expect your next
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: to eight portals? And it's a summer solstice, and this
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: is a scientists. Well yeah, archaeoldists, and so he I said,
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: what do you mean. He goes, yeah, he said some
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: of them come in like you can bring you here,
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: come in, some go out, and some go both ways
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: and out. And he said there's probably things coming in
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: and out and they're just giving you a hard time
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: as you're sleeping. So I never stayed in that house again.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: That was the last time I stayed in that house.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: It was it was too much. I mean, the nightmares
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: were so vivid you would wake up and still be
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: thinking about the nightmare the next day. It was just
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: too overwhelming for me. So yes, I think, for sure
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: there are many portals on this island, and I think
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: that there was a way that the giants knew how
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: to harness that energy in a way that we still
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: don't know what to do or how to do it, sadly.
• 58:40
  Speaker 8: Well, there's a lot of you know, depictions of giants,
• 58:43
  Speaker 8: in my opinion, in ancient Egypt, hieroglyphics with like huge
• 58:48
  Speaker 8: people and then like a tiny person standing next to them.
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 58:53
  Speaker 8: Acontin was like supposedly a god king with this elongated skull,
• 58:58
  Speaker 8: big eyes, kind of like some weird pooch belly thing,
• 59:02
  Speaker 8: kind of like the hump back. It's just like weird anatomy.
• 59:06
  Speaker 8: And so I think that it's everywhere. I think that
• 59:08
  Speaker 8: there were little pockets of it all over the place.
• 59:11
  Speaker 8: But you know, the Egyptians, I feel like we're silly
• 59:14
  Speaker 8: with portals and magic and all kinds of stuff. So
• 59:19
  Speaker 8: if they were into it, I would assume that most
• 59:22
  Speaker 8: of the giant races had some type of knowledge information,
• 59:29
  Speaker 8: something they knew what was up basically, and it's been
• 59:33
  Speaker 8: you know, forgotten to us, like why can't we why
• 59:36
  Speaker 8: don't we know how to do this stuff? Like how
• 59:39
  Speaker 8: did they figure it out? Like where did they come from? Basically,
• 59:43
  Speaker 8: you know.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: What I mean.
• 59:44
  Speaker 11: Here's a couple of clues that I pick up.
• 59:47
  Speaker 10: If you think about the shape of Akanat, compare that
• 59:51
  Speaker 10: to kind of the shape of the moi, right, the
• 59:54
  Speaker 10: big giant heads on Easter Island. They got the same
• 59:58
  Speaker 10: pooch belly, they got same elongated features, and all sorts
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 10: of other things.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 11: It's very similar.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 10: And what they were practicing is what Greg Little calls
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 10: the path of Soul's religion. And so this goes into
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 10: the caves, this goes into all these other things that
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 10: had to do with the stars. This was a fully
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 10: formed religion that maybe we just don't fully understand today.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 10: But it seems like this is the crossover between giants
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 10: and people and this sort of astral realm type existence.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 10: And again, they're always obsessed with death.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: Really, the islands here are called the Antilles. So I
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: am in the lesser Antilles. Above me is the Greater Antilles.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: So the Antilles means of Atlantis.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 8: So I was waiting for you to say that.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: These islands were believed to be the remnants of Atlantis
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: after the flood event or whatever occurred. I think it
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: was a flood event, and so if you're now with
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: all this information coming out about the Pyramids and these
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: you know, scans of what's going on beneath the pyramids,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: which we've all heard about for so long, and thankfully
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: science is now catching up. And if you think that
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: maybe the Egyptians were an offshoot of the survivors of Atlantis,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: then perhaps the giants are all connected to these original
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: people of Atlantis, in which case that would make sense
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: that the giants here would also be manipulating portals and
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: also obsessed with death and going to the path of souls.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: There's a petroglyph here that it's I think of one
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: hundred percent it's demonstrating the path of souls. And I
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: actually was going to talk to Gregory about it, because
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: I did. I went there on a night hike to
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: check it out to see if it aligned with Orion's
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: I believe it's a petroglyph of Orion and it's showing
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: the Milky Way and different planets. It's it's a huge,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: huge petrigal panel, and it's in a very secluded area.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: It's also protected. It's in the National Park. But it
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean that something couldn't happen. God forbid. But it
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: is also I believe it is showing the Path of
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: souls and since there was such an obsession here with death.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, just to go back to
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: their obsession with death, the power of the giants didn't
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: die when they died the giants. The power of the
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: giants was maintained in their bones. So they really worshiped
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: the bones, and so they were obsessed with Yeah, they
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: and they know they didn't practice cannibalism, they didn't do
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: human sacrifice, they didn't even really do cremation because they
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: were obsessed with keeping the bones. And so the Path
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: of the Souls had kind of that concept of that belief,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: which is so ancient and so prevalent in archaic cultures,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: I think was also going on here as well. And
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: I think this petroglyph panel one hundred percent dictates that
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: with and it was connected to Orion.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 11: That Graverard you mentioned.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 10: You said that it was a sky burial and that
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 10: in December there's no way they could get to it.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 10: Part of the Path of Soul's religion is the leap
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 10: over water, so maybe they did go out there during
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 10: December during the time period that they use for the
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 10: start of this journey right at that spot.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: So, yes, that's true. Yeah, there's a lot of water here,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: So that's a very good observation. That could definitely be
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: something too that that is the whole path of the souls?
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: Is this the whole year long path of the souls
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: of this and that is part of it, as well
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: as this preservation of the bones and then the painting
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: of the bones and the deliberate way they would bury
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: the people in the form of Isoceles triangles. They were
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: so obsessed with Isosceles triangles that even some of the
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: major sites on the island formed giant geoglyphs of Isoceles triangles.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: All their tools have little triangles on Isoceles triangles. Where
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: we uh, we had a group of a student archaeologists
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: here doing a dig at the giant site where Spuci
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: met the giants, and I went with uh. I saw
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: the site, but then I went with the archaeologists and
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: actually were cleaning some of the artifacts and categorizing them
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: as part of you know, volunteering my time. And yeah,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: it was it was interesting because the every single tool
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: we picked up had these Isoceles triangles on them. Everything
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: there's stone tools, there there's shell tools. So yeah, I
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: think there is also connection with Isoceles triangles and these
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: ancient cultures as well. I don't know if it has
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: to do with Triangularum, which I have hypothesized because Triangularum,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: which is a south a southern hemisphere constellation, can actually
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: because I live right by the equator, I essentially live
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: on the equator. So there's about a couple of day
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: period at this time of year, for just about an
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: hour where you can see at dust triangularum. Some it
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: leaps over the equator and you can see very very
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: very close to the to the to the line of sight,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: and then it just dips below and then you don't
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: see it. So I almost wonder was there a connection
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: between Triangularum and these Isoceles. This obsession was Isoceles triangles,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: because that's what connects all these sites to the ones
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: here in the Caribbean, are these Isoceles triangle the burials
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: and the tool marks and the way that the stones
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: are set up there. There's own monoliths and megalists are
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: also set up in the form of Isoceles triangles. So
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: the waves, yes, that could be too exactly, Yes, it
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: could be something with energy.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 5: It actually brings me to a question that was trying
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 5: to get back to, but I didn't want to interrupt.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 5: About going back to the caves. You said some of
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 5: them had certain purposes. Was there any of them that
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 5: might have been known for, like healing or anything like that.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: I don't specifically see any evidence of that. I would
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: have to assume because I'm sure some of the caves
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: have certain harmonics. I know that by the giant skeletons
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: that were found hallucinogens, there was a mushroom that they
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: were growing here that I promise you everye Reuben is
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: trying to figure out what mushroom that is. I don't know.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: I think it's extinct because no one's come up with
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: it as far as I know, and I would hope
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: I would know. But they were definitely using hallucinogens, so
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: they were making a t so that was what they
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: could determine the archaeologists, and that's in the archaeological report.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: There was also a plant that also is not here anymore,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: that they were making a hallucinogenic drink with. So it
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: wasn't ayahuasca, but I'm assuming it's something along those lines,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: and I'm sure that they were. Of course this would
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: only be the shaman, This wouldn't be the general population
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: was involved in these things at all. These First of all,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: the caves, most of them are so completely inaccessible and
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: hidden from plain sight. I mean you could walk by
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: it one hundred times in a day and never even
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: see that there were a cave system above you. So
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: they were very secretive. And I think they probably did
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: do something with psychedelics in these caves, and if that
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: had something to do with healing, I would assume it would.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: But other than that, I don't see any or in
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: the archaeological report, in my own investigations, anything that could
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: really point you to that. But I mean it would
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: be safe to assume if they're using Hallucinen's there's something
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: that's going on that spiritual of a spiritual level. Not
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: sure if it's healing, but maybe the messages that they
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: got were healing to the people.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 4: The reason I ask is I just wonder if sometimes
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: some of the stuff written on the walls is more
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: of like especially with like the spiral waves, if it's
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 4: more of like telling you the frequency to play.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: The Yeah, you know, there is a in New Jersey
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: there was a group it's off. It's on the part
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: of Princeton University that is studying the harmonics of the caves.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: And I actually wrote them a letter because I wanted
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: them to come to Aruba and test the harmonics of
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: the caves to see if they were at because they
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: were finding that certain caves with all these with all
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: the petroglyphs, we're hitting certain at certain tones that would
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: like reverberate and shake almost the whole cave. And so
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: I wanted them to come to test it, but they
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: were too busy and they were on another part of
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: the world, and I never followed up with it again.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 10: But if you look up, if you look up the
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 10: home holds frequency, they have very easy to follow formulas
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 10: to where you can measure that just by taking the
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 10: dimensions of a room, so you can actually frequency yourself. Yeah,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 10: what is it called Helmholtz frequency?
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, Yeah, it's great information. Thank you. I'm
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: going to try it. I will definitely try it because
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: I've been wondering that for years about the harmonics of
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: the caves. I know in certain areas, especially the one
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: cave with the bigfoots, if you clap at one area,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: you'll hear it in another part of the cave, so
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: you won't even hit sorry, you won't even hear it
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: so much like by you, but you'll hear it really loud,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: really far away, in like another part of the cave.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: So that's you know, that's what really got me thinking
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: about the harmonics of the caves so and what the
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: frequency would be. So yeah, for sure that could be that.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: It could be the harmonics as well. That's something to
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: think about and more research has to be done.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 10: Usually, usually with big open spaces, it's a much lower frequency,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 10: so you're talking like four hertz or whatever. But most
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 10: of these sites like the Dolmens and stuff like that
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 10: up in New Grange and all these other places, they're
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 10: all around the four hertz range.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 11: And so what.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 10: They say is that once you hit that Helmholtz residence,
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 10: then that's when people start really tripping out. So you've
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 10: got that combination of a lot of really powerful hallucinogens
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 10: going on in that same area.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: Wow, very interesting. Now I'll have to check it out.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: Thank you. That's definitely something to look at, and it's
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: definitely another component, I think, another layer.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 8: The hieroglyphics or whatever. The depiction that you mentioned in
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 8: the one cave that have like the Milky Way and everything.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 8: It sounds like the opening to the movie Prometheus, like
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 8: they left these you know, they left these sigils and
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 8: stuff for us stuff find, and you know they end
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 8: up finding these giant people. But anyway, so it made
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 8: me think of this. There are a lot of islands
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 8: kind of like Aruba that have legends of giants that
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 8: I have studied. You're obviously the authority on the Aruba
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 8: side of things, but I know that there are other
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 8: islands with legends of giants. But they also report a
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 8: high amount of UFO activity, and they also report like
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 8: things flying in and out of the water and disappearing,
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 8: just weird stuff like that. I'm not a huge alien person,
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 8: but I do believe that there's some weird stuff that
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 8: people are seeing. So what about Aruba, Like, are people
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 8: seeing stuff coming up out of the water? Is there
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 8: any weird lights in the sky? Stuff?
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: Like what's going on with that? Yeah, we see usos
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: all the time. All the time. We see them. We
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: see them as like in the daytime. Even I was
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: with my ex father in law. My ex husband is
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: a ruben, so I was with him when before my
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: daughter was born, and I had a high balcony and
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: we were sitting on the balcony during the day and
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: there were all these strange lights like moving and getting together,
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: and it was during the day, so it was just
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: so daring. And I had just moved to Aruba. So
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: I thought, was this a thing? I don't know? So,
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, I thought, because we have military bases around us.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: We have the Dutch military here, we have the US
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: Air Force as a base in Curasu, so I thought,
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: maybe this is military maneuvers. And I said to him,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: I said, what are those lights? And he looked at
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: me like a ghost, like he saw a ghost. He
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: had no idea, he couldn't explain it. I've never seen
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: anything like that. I have heard from people that I've
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: interviewed personally by specifically the rock formations, the balance stones.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: One of the largest balance stones that I've ever seen
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: my whole life. This the man is, he's a respected
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: man in the community. He's you know, in his sixties.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: He's got me. He's not crazy. He told me. When
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: I was a kid, we would see lights coming out
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: of there going in there. The lights would sometimes would
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: be so bright we always thought they were just portals.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: We didn't know if they were UFOs. He said, sometimes
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: the lights would dance. The other site I told you
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: about where the house was that and where I was
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: on the beach with the knocking. I interviewed people there,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: my old school of Rubens, and they tell me all
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: the times they would they called them the dancing lights.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: They would just see lights moving across the sand and
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: they were scared. They didn't know they were scared, but
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: they didn't try to interact with the lights. Because this
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: is also deeply Catholic country. So it's interesting because you
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: have all these strange phenomenon and all this crazy ancient
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: magic really occurring on the island and coupled with society
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: that's very Christian and so but to them, you know,
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: they also hold their indigenous qualities, so they try to
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: mesh the Catholicism with There are supernatural experiences. So they saw,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: you know, they and they didn't attribute any of this
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: to God or angels or anything. They attributed right away
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: to something supernatural. They knew right away they thought it
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: was UFOs. They thought it was something alien or they
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: didn't connect it to ghosts, and they just assumed and
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: we also have strange and I witnessed that too, strange
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: like strange like little tornadoes, but there's no wind and
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: there's none. Yeah, really remote parts of the island, particularly
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: the same part of the island where I told you
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: with the house that no one would rent that part
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: of the island. Yeah, I saw it and I was
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: with my friend and I said, what is in front
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: of us? And we were like, oh my god, you
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: couldn't believe it. There was no way, there was no
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: there was nothing. We don't know how this thing could
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: whip up. It was like in the Mummy, the movie
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: The Mummy, I don't know if you know, and they
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: whip up you know, the sand, the sand and the
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: engulf sea. I mean, it was like that was It's
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: very strange. And that's another common phenomenon seen on the island,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: particularly at these ancient sites. And that's what's what's important
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: to remember. These aren't happening in the middle of the
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: capital of Aruba or by the tourist area. These are
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: specifically happening at these ancient sites that are filled with
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: archaic knowledge and artifacts and history, et cetera.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 10: So there is any do you have any dowsers on
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 10: the island.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: No, but I have thought about trying to pick up
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: that that hobby, just to see if I could. I
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: have had I don't know, if you know Tim Walter,
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: Scott Walter here and he was, you know, he wanted
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: to check. I took him to some sites as well.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: But uh, and I know that he knows dowsers. He
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: had asked the same question. But I haven't had as
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: far as I know, no doubt dawsers have been here,
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: but that would be another interesting angle.
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  Speaker 8: I find it highly interesting that there's an air Force
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 8: base out there. Sorry Nick, go ahead, No, no, no,
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  Speaker 8: I mean, I just think the military knows what the
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 8: f is up and they try to get themselves as
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 8: close to it as they possibly can.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: And they say it's not a military base. It's just
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: as they're doing a kind of ships that when I
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: have to do my passport stuff, I have to go
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: to the US embassy and the US Embassy in the Curresou,
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: so you know, and it would make sense if you're
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: going to have the embassy, you would want some military presence.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: I'm sure that was the deal that they made. And
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: so they have a military base that they have one
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: that is known, and I believe it's the I don't
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: know what it is, but they work with the Dutch
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: Marines because we also have the Dutch Marines here. And
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: then we have US Coastcard down here, we have US
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: Navy down here. Uh yes, I want to pleasant and
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: so then you know when I landed when I went
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: to Kristel last time, it was a year ago, and
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: I realized, Oh my god, why they are all these
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: US like air air Force planes here? And then I realized, wow,
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: it's a US air Force base. And they did research. Well,
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: it's not an air Force base. It's a part of
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: the right. They all these fancy things at air Force base.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: Of course, you land, you're going to see you Wow,
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: there's all these US Air Force jets there. I mean,
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: what are they doing? Man? They just sight seeing.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 9: I don't think they're like the Catholic Church. Nick knows
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 9: what I'm talking about. They want to put their bases
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 9: right on top of the ancient science, just like it's.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: Agree at Alta Vista, at Alta Vista Chapel, they put
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: it exactly on top of an ancient site that was
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: a religious site to the giants. As a matter of fact,
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: the giants kept like burning down the churches there were.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: Then the priests talk about this and they write about
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: it that and they're frustration. The priests are frustrated because
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: they cannot keep these churches intact because the giants keep
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: burning them down. And uh, I think that's another part
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: too of the demise of the giants. Sadly, a lot
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: of them I think probably got killed because they were
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: just getting in the way of everything that the plans
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: that the Europeans have for the islands. And we're cooperating,
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: but we do have an ancient site. It's one of
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: the most ancient sites on the on the island down
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: on top of it, as well as another ancient site
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: that I'm going to go to on the solstice where
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: they also found burials, and another ancient site where there
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: were burials. There are three Catholic churches on all three
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: of those sites, and everything has been desecrated, everything.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 6: Just like Tim knows what's up.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 8: I was going to mention that too. I mean, of course,
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 8: so you got to have your military presence, and then
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 8: you also have to follow that up with like some
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 8: kind of religious institution, mostly Catholic is what I've found.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 4: But Wow.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 8: May I mean, Heather, You're kicking my ass. I had
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 8: no idea about some of this stuff. You're amazing girl.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 11: This is crazy.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: I appreciate the opportunity to share it. You know, you
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: spend all these hours of your life researching something and
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: then you know, I'll try to talk to my family
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: about it. In their eyes, just glass arena to be
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: around certain people and who appreciate it. So I'm really
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: enjoying speaking with you all.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 7: Is there a lot of lapis lazuli around in that area,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 7: like that's in any of the caves or like on
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 7: the f I have heard that there.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: Is lapis, I have not seen any. We do have greenstone,
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: for sure. We have gold. The whole island is filled
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: with gold, tons, tons and tons of quartz crystal. As
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: a matter of fact, the archaeologists determined that all of
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: the ancient rituals of the giants were done on quartz crystal.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: So on the mountain we have called crystal. It's literally
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: called crystal saro crystal, which is puppi mental for crystal
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: crystal mountain. There were burials in there. You can still
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: find ruby rose cord. You could find rubies. So there
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: are some semi precious stones here for sure. Yeah, so
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: uh that they say also Onyx is here. And interestingly,
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: and this is now three times. It came up. It
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: came up in the archaeological reports, it came up and
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: some of the exploring I've done, and it came up
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: when these amateur archaeologists came here, the student archaeologists, and
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: I was helping them cleaning the artifacts. All three times.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: In some of these antient burials there had part of
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: the grave gifts they found pieces of green glass, So,
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: which is very odd because that would mean that what
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: would they do? How were they making glass? They had
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: to get to such a high temperature. I have found
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: some of their ovens that they had. They were very
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: interesting ovens. They would put them. They would take a
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: giant stone and just I don't know how because these
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: stones are diar right when the you know it's it's
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: a hard stone. Everyone's oh, it's only seven on the
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: moor stale. Well then you try to put a hole
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: in the direct. So they would put these holes in
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: the diaryte and it's like a tunnel and you could
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: see the black you know, they had they got it
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: so hot. I don't know how they did it, but
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: if they were making glass, that's that just blows my mind.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: And in three burial sites there were pieces and it's
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: always green. So the archaeologist told me she thought was
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: polished jade, which would be even crazier if there was jade,
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: because the I mean, but but you think, Okay, the
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: Maya had jade, and that's in South America. Maybe they
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: were trading with, you know, the Maya. Were they the Maya?
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know because they're also. One of the caves
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: in Bonair has drawings in it, and an archaeologist from
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: Florida State University who was an expert on proto Mayan
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: and Mayan writing, came to Bonair and wrote and it
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: was in the I have the article. It's in the
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: Miami Herald. In nineteen seventy he wrote an article stating
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: that he believed that the drawings, the writing in the
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: cave and Bonair was proto Mayan and he was shocked
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: at how far the Mayans had come and how prolific
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: they had come. While he was kicked out of the college.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: They threatened to take away his license to teach unless
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: he wrote a retraction, which I also have that in
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: the Miami Herald, apologizing for saying that they were proto
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: Mayan draws and that they could not have been my enjoys. Meanwhile,
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: this was an expert. They was the only guy in
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: the whole world at that time who could read proto Mayan.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 8: And he's an idiot apparently because he just I guess.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 11: They just moved.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 10: They just proved that the Mayans were the inspiration behind
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 10: the Mississippian culture. They have the artifacts to prove it.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 10: They were going up through the Gulf.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: Yes, of course, they were in Georgia. Yes. And they
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: were in Georgia exactly, Yes, and they and they even
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: were in Arizona. There are places in Arizona where you
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: see petrogliss and you're right away. I was with my
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: friend Jeff wool Wine hiking out there. I said, this
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: looks Mayan because I had just come from Easter Island
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: and Peru, and you know, you see all these drawings,
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: it's the same. It's the same gersah Utah as well. Exactly.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: So I think the Maya were one of them was
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: prolific ancient societies ever on the planet, and it's I
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: don't know why people are afraid to say that there's
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: this guy, he's a he's a blogger and I.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 3: Have to look up his name. I'm blanking on it.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 9: But he's been talking about the Mayans in the South
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 9: and Alabama, Georgia in that region, but he's been completely
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 9: shut off from the archaeological world. I mean, he's got
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 9: death He says he received death threats on his blog
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 9: all the time. Still they're still like over here, they're
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 9: still suppressing it.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: It's just unbelievable because it is a major component. It's
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: another piece to the story. And you know how much
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: interaction with the giants having with the Maya. Where they
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: the same people? You know, because when you I mean
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: I just went to Belize and you see these Mayan temples,
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: I mean there are giants all over those temples, giant heads,
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: giants faces, giant bodies, giant temples, giant pyramids, you know,
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: everything nice.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 6: Appear all at the same time.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 8: That another question that I'd love to know the answer too,
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 8: because if they were so tight, you know, it's like
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 8: their best these or whatever, and they are all just disappearing,
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 8: like with little denote trace of where they went. I mean,
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 8: what are you what are your thoughts on like ancient
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 8: technology and stuff, because I do believe that some of
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 8: the giants had ancient technology.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: I mean to move the stones that they've moved. If
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: you see the size of these stones, I mean, they're
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: bigger than cars and I can't even I don't. And
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: every stone here, especially the balanced stones, are pointed on
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: one end and pointing to something. They're always arranged in
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: a very specific and deliberate manner so that it's either
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: pointed to a burial. And this was also noted in
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: the archaeological report that these stones were or and the
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: petroglyphs were always pointing you to something. So sometimes the
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: stones were pointing you to a balanced stone, support to
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: you to a mountain. For example, right outside my window,
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: I have an extinct volcano. A lot of the focus
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: was towards that volcano. And some of the stones are
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: pointing to burials, some of them are pointing to caves,
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: some of them are pointing to other petroglyph sites or
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: other balanced stones, and some of them are pointing to
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: specific areas where they want you to look at specific times,
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: for example, the equinox, sunrise or sunset. A lot of
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: the solar alignments that occur on the island are usually
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: at sunset and at sunrise, because those are the most
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: distinct times of the day when the sun is actually moving.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: We don't have much movement of the sun here because
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: we're on the equator, but at the solstices and equinoxes,
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: you will see the sun move, and it's specifically at
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: sunrise and sunset, so a lot of those stones. Also.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: The site I'm going to go to on Saturday for
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: the solstice has slit. It's a it's a it's a
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: rock shelter. It's totally hidden. It's a rock shelter with
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: drawings all around, but on one wall there's only one
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: drawing and it's of a man and or a human running,
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: like you could tell he's in the state of running.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: And as the summer, so the sunset sun cuts through
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: this slit that they've made in the stone, and it slowly, slowly,
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: slowly engulfts the man so until he's like, oh, you
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: totally in light and in the light, and then he's
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: in the in total blackness. It's such a bizarre, strange
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: Petrick Glyph. It's I always feel like it's either the
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: beginning of the opening of a portal just the way
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: the stones are and how you can't see it when
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: you have to really know where the sight is. A
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: bunch of burials were found at the base of this
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: stone structure, so I think, yeah, I think that could
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: denote a portal as well. I don't know, but if you.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 11: If you got a drum, bring it with you.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: Yes, I've thought about that, right, Yeah, Yeah, that's a
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: good point. Yeah. I actually I have a friend who
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: has a really nice drum. I shouldn't invite them. It's
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: just hard, do you know, when to try to disclose
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: these places to too many people because they're now protected,
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: so it's you know, you get very nervous and people
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: are so savvy nowadays. You give a couple of hints
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: and they can find it. So I try to be
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: very cautious about who I bring to those sites. But
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: that one I've never posted about because I don't it's
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: an unprotected area. But it's an amazing thing to see.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 10: At the solstice, we have some standing stones or Dolman's
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 10: up here. They call them glacial erraticsow. Somehow these nine
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 10: hundred pound boulders got dropped in the middle of an
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 10: island in a lake on top of three rocks, all
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 10: on top of three rocks. Where are you based out
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 10: of I'm in Wisconsin.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, yes, Wisconsin has a lot.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 11: Yes.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: As a matter of friends, I am on social media.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: I forget which one of the platforms it was. I
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: posted those pictures to an archaeol, a group of archaeologists,
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: and they all told me they were glacial erratics. I
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: said no, but I'm in a Aruba. There were no
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: glaciers here, so you have to come up with something else.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: What's going to be next? What's the next? Excuse? Everything's
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: a glacial erratic? I mean, come on, the glaciers were
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: that intelligent, and they would put them specifically in a
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: certain direction, facing the solstice next to a fault line.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 11: Come on, over and over and over and over again.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: Right exactly, I mean. And then and then, like you said,
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: like two like a couple of little pointy stones, and
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: then there's giant sixty time boulder and it's really a
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: ridiculous well.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 11: In my area. One of them had ogum writing on it.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: Oh yes, interesting.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 10: From Ireland and it's the l bomb oh ball. Because
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 10: the Celtic people were mercenaries for the Canaanite Phoenicians, so
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 10: they were worshiping ball.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 11: And it's like the only.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 10: Way any of this makes sense is if you actually
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 10: declare that those.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 11: Copper minds up in Michigan are real. They'll never do that.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: Oh no, there's no way I mean that. And then
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: think of how far away the copper has been found
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: globally all over the world. This copper was transported. So yeah,
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: that's interesting. Have you seen those Have you been to
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: those stones?
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 11: Have you? I really want to? I mean, uh, I
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 11: mean you said this Saturday, so maybe I'll head up there.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely if you have stuff like that in
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: your backyard, you should totally check it out. It'll change
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: your life, you know. I mean when I lived in
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: New York, I would I was. I've seen like so
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: I tried to see as many megalithic chambers as I could.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: I'm going back to New York actually next week and
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: I plan on seeing a couple more. And yeah, it's
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: so cool to like have these sites right in your backyard.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: And you know, and then I always said, if the chambers,
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: especially in the megalithic chambers in New York and New England,
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: if they got popular and the archaelogists got involved. There
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: would just be like a velvet rope in front of
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: it and we would just be looking in. You know,
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: let's enjoy this while we can still go in it
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: and feel the energy and explore it. But the archaelogists
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: will never touch those sites either. It's never ever. But yeah,
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: you should check it out. I'd love to hear about
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: what you find out.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 11: Yeah, definitely will.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 9: So somebody sent me this and I got to read
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 9: this because I want to run it by. They said,
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 9: I once had the honor of being allowed to take
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 9: a stone from the cliffs side next to Serpent Mound,
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 9: and it amazed people for years as the red sandstone
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 9: held a magnetic charge.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 3: To this day it makes a compass wiggle, though the
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 3: charge has faded. So I thought that's interesting, and.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 9: I was going to ask you anyway about Serpent Mount
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 9: but as we were talking about Ruba, it reminded me
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 9: of this message.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: You know, I've been to Chaco Canyon at the summer
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: solstice sunrise at Casa Rin Kanata Kiva and they only
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: let in one hundred people, literally one hundred people, not
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: one hundred cars. One hundred people. To count you in
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: the car, you have to get there at one o'clock
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  Speaker 1: in the morning because the line of cars and you
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: want to be the first or the second one, make
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: sure you get in. So I've seen it twice and
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: I brought it with me a trimeter and as the
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: sun was rising, there was a strawberry moon was setting
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: and the sun was rising. I had the trimeter and
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: this is an experiment I saw on YouTube someone do,
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: so I recreated it. As soon as the sun was rising,
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: I had it on the stone of the side. The
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: meter was going crazy all of the my compass I
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: had old school compass, same things. Everything was fine until
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: the sun started to come up and started to rise,
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: and then the light event occurred at Cassamrin Kanata kiva,
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: which is where the sun goes through one square and
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: then it and there's tea pillars there. I don't know
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: if you've ever looked at that kiva, but it goes
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: through one square and then it follows and then it
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: lights up another one of the windows and then the
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: whole thing goes away and it's it's amazing. But at
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: that moment, the trimeter and my compass were going crazy.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: And that's sandstone, so it's the same same concept. So yeah,
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: it's I think one hundred percent hold to charge because
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: I noticed it. I saw it.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 10: So I was just listening today about Goldbecky Tepi, and
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 10: they found other sites that have those exact kind of
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 10: tea pillars that now align perfectly with the summer solstice.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 10: So there's groups of people that are heading up there
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 10: for that. But I guarantee you it's got the same
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 10: sort of electromagnetic event.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: I think so too. I think these sites get energized
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: at that time the stone there's this combination of light
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: and stone and the intensity of the light at that
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: time too. I don't know's it has to be something
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: because I witnessed it firsthand at John o'kenyon. And even
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: when you go like every summer solstice we would visit
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: a megalithic chamber, Winter solstice, we would go to the
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: winter solstice megalithic chamber where there are all these alignments
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: and and there's a feeling that you get that stays
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: with you for days after you go to those sites
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: on those specific celestial events, which it's very positive. As
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: a matter of fact, when I lived in New York,
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: if my daughter and I were ill, we would drive up.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: I would drive up to the chambers and just sit
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: in the chambers with her to just try to just
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: get the energy of the stones and try to heal.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, and it works. I mean, it does work.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: It's not like working like taking night quill, but it's
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: definitely working like alleviating your symptoms and getting you better faster,
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: and it's very spiritual and energetic. So yeah, I think
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: there's I think that, like, you know, just going back
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: to the earlier discussion, there's definitely a healing that's involved
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: with this light and stone.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 5: I think I'm actually I'm supposed to uh, you know,
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 5: I spoke to somebody today, I forgot his name. Some
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 5: guy is supposed to be pretty much following around and
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 5: like filming stuff at Mount Pilot. I'm gonna be going
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 5: to Mountain Pilot for the solstice, and he was telling
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 5: me the same thing that if you have the chance
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 5: to like take off your your shoes and actually stand
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 5: on that ship for a minute, he's supposed to actually
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 5: heal you. But yeah, I'm able to go there for
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 5: the summer solstice. Will be there tomorrow at this point,
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 5: actually at this time, will be there. I think you
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 5: mentioned Scott Walter. From what I was told, he's supposed
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 5: to be there and I'm something I don't know specific,
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 5: something he's doing Tuesday. I'm supposed to film him actually
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 5: doing something. Oh wow yeah Mount Pilot.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, he's summit now.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because yeah, the Cosmic Summit. Yeah yeah, that's why. Yeah,
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 4: so I should have just said that the play would be sense.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 9: Is it Isolet Mountain in outside of West of Salem,
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 9: North Carolina.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 4: I think it's in Greensboro. I don't know where.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, then that's.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 4: I'm coming from Greenville. I have no I I just
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 4: to know where I'm going on the GPS.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's I think he's he's there now at
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: the Cosmic Summit, So that would make sense. So yeah,
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: so you'll see Scott. Yeah, he was here last year.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: I think it was with Haley, his girlfriend. So they
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: were here and we hung out for like I guess
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: we're here for five days. But I took him to
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: some sites. He was blown away, he was really impressed.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 5: I think he's supposed to do something about the Knights Templars.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 5: I could be wrong. Again, this is what the person's
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 5: telling me. You know who knows.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's wrapped up with the Knights Templar. There were
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: no there, I don't. I mean, we have a Rescrusian
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: society here, the Rescusion of the Freemasons have so many
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: of their lodges and the meeting places here. The whole
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: island is riddled with secret societies.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 4: That's interesting.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: He wanted to try to tie the Templars into it.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he ever came up with it.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: I don't study enough about the Templars. If they come up,
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: they come up, but I don't dismiss it. But it
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: is interesting that we also have and he is a Freemason,
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: so that's also interesting.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 3: Well, secret societies have a way of just finding these places.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: Don't they exactly exactly, especially with giant bones exactly. They
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: want to hear about giant bones. There's a secret society
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: involved too.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 10: The Knights Templar were the ones who started the Order
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 10: of the Golden Circle, yes, after the Civil War, and
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 10: they went down to Aruba as well. So you've got
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 10: that huge connection of like the fleeg southers right, the
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 10: carib Yeah, we have.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: What the Freemason I guess, I don't know what you
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: call it a meeting house I don't know the technical term.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: We have lodge, thank you. They're the highest order, like
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: the temple of the Sun, so I guess that's thirty
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: third degree in higher So we have Yeah, I have
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: one right by my house. They're scattered all over the island.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: I think we have six of them. And then right
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: on the beach is the rescrutionion lodge. And my ex boyfriend,
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: who was an archaeologist, is a rescrusion. So it's interesting
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: that the archaeologist is the rescrution. Don't forget Anthony Faucius
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: also a rescrution. So interesting how these gatekeepers seem to
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: always be in our face and really determining what we
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: can hear, what we can learn, and what we can know.
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: So it's a strange connection.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 6: But yeah, very aspect of life, Yes, for sure.
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: Yes, it's always a gatekeeper. So yeah, so the archaeologist,
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: he is an active rescusion. His father was the president
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: of the Resocriution Society. He was the the Caribbean island's
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: only pathologist, which is also interesting. So he would also
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: do autopsies on the ancient skeletons that they found. So
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: I always tried to get a lot of information out
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: of them, thankfully, from the archaeologists I did. From the father,
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: he's a little older, he's in this eighties, this late eighties,
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: so his mind was a little bit all over the place.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: But if you go in their house, it's filled with
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: rescution symbolism and poems and they're really it's like going
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: into like a house of the lodge of rescucion, I mean,
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: ox all over the place. Is very odd, but it's
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: interesting because that is that really defines who they are.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: You know that that's the place from which they come.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: And so so that's actually the scary part about it.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: You know, how much more do they know that we
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: don't know?
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 5: So I think I want to I want to ask
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 5: this is such a random, weird question. And it's only
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 5: because it was something that I noticed myself seeing because
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 5: I stopped at a bunch of lodges when I lived
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 5: in Long.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 4: Island, when I lived in New York too, Oh whereabouts,
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 4: if you don't mind.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: Me asking, No, sure, I grew up in Sayville.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 7: And I.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 4: Went to connect question Oh my god, shut me out. Wow.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: And then and then I moved to Seaford. So I
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: moved here from Seaford from county.
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 5: Well, all right, but uh, from going all these Masonic lodges,
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 5: this is gonna sound weird. But I somehow noticed it
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 5: and then started googling other lodges and I would start
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 5: to even notice. And another reason why I'm asking this
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 5: because I'm assuming in a ruber it's only so big,
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 5: there's only so many people there. I started noticing, like
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 5: maybe you'd find a town that would have like three
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 5: or four lodges, which is a little weird. And for
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 5: some reason, neither right next door or within blocks away
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 5: there's a funeral home. And it's like, what do you
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 5: need five funeral homes for when there's only a thousand
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 5: people in the fucking town.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: Yes, do you know by the lodge that's very close
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: to my house there are two funeral homes each other
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: literally next door to it. Literally their other lodge has
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: a cremate, a crematorium.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 4: Yo, I cover it.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 5: Over one hundred of them on the United States all
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 5: have a funeral home either walking distance or.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: Cremation was just legalized on this island. So this is
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: a Catholic country, right, so they're not allowed to cremate
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: the human body. They only had the cremation the crematorium
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: set up for animals, but now they have a huge
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: bold because they're running out of space to bury the bodies.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: And you can't bury bodies in the ground here in Aruba.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: They have to be in like like New Orleans, you know,
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: they have to be above ground, and they're running out
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: of rooms. So now people prefer to just cremate the bodies.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: So now all these crematoriums are cropping up, and there
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: are Masonic temples literally on the same block.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 5: What I noticed I was like filming a bunch of
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 5: fom because I was just I was trying to see
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 5: like that, the architecture, just anything about these buildings are significant.
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 4: And as I was editing all of them.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 5: As I'm editing all of them, I'm like, yo, like
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 5: or even as I'm walking, I'm like, yo, at a
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 5: funeral home, wasn't there a funeral home over by so
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 5: and so on? As I started going through all the footage,
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 5: I'm like, why is there a funeral home home next
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 5: to these Masonic lodges?
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: That's exactly yeah.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 4: I just started googling lodges and then the funeral homes
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 4: in the area, and I'm like, right next to each other.
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: They're right next to each other. Yes, yes, same here,
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: and and it's a Ruba. It's so far away, it's
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: over two thousand miles away. It's the same.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 10: It's a final destination for all these human trafficking.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 5: Yes, that's part of the tunnel system, is connecting all
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 5: those things.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: Yes, right, exactly. Yeah, that's very interesting.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 11: Yes, funeral that's cool.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 4: I was just like, what's the odds you're even going
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 4: to realize that? But that's great.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, once you said, because you said, like you said,
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: it's a small island, so right away the first one
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: I picked.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 4: Why do we need ten funeral homes?
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: It's very and it's funny because there are only one
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: hundred and ten thousand people on the island, Like, how
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: many people are dying?
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 8: Yeah?
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 4: Right, it's like, yo, if you need that many, you're
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 4: going to go extinct. I guess, right.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: Exactly. I mean why there's so many doesn't even make sense.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: I mean that's why I'm always saying, how do these
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: things stay in business? I mean there's one person who
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: dies a month. I mean, you know, thank god.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean I mean, did I ask you
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 4: rub question?
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: Sure? Please?
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 11: What about that case?
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 10: About Kurk vander whatever the guy, what was you're.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: In vander suit? Yes, yeah, it's crazy. His mother taught
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: at my daughter's school. She was an art teacher. He
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: went to my daughter's school. I mean this was like
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: a yeah, no he was. His father was believed to
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: be a freemason as well, and so yeah, I mean,
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It still haunts the island to this day.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: I don't think she's alive at all. You know, at
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: this point, I think, you know, something terrible did happen
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: to her, and I think involves human trafficking. Aruba is
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: a human trafficking hub. If you look on the CIA
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: or State Department website, it's one of the first mornings
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: that they give especially for young people putting drugs in
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: your drinks at these clubs serving underage people. Aruba has
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: one of the lowest ages of consent in the entire globe.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: It's fifteen years old. So you have to like with
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: my daughter, I have teenage daughter. I mean, I don't care.
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: I'm so strict with her. I don't care at all.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: I said, when you get to be my age, you
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: will understand exactly why I'm being the strict with you.
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I'm very very conservative with her. You know,
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: some of her friends are going out and drinking already.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: You know they also have no drinking age essentially, So
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: it's a yeah, it's a it's definitely a place where
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: you have to watch out. As a matter of fact,
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: I had friends come into town and you know, friends
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: of friends, and I saw them and they said, oh,
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: our kids are they're teenagers. Oh they're going to this
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: club and this come. I'm like, tell them be careful,
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: especially the girls. You got to if you forget, you
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: leave your drink and you go to the bathroom, you
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: come back, throw away the drink. Don't worry about the money,
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: don't you know. That's a thing that happens here. A
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: lot of these guys would work with the bartenders, so
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: they knew where to bring in the girls and then
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: where they could drug them. They could film snuff films
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: like a lot of evil.
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 7: You got to get a can You just got to
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 7: get something that's like literally skilled or something. Yes, it's
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 7: probably with those two yeah.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: Exactly, because it's an it's an operation here. It's a
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: it's a very organized operation. So and and they're powerful,
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: so you have to really and the law isn't on
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: your side. I mean, if you're fifteen years old and yeah,
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: that's it. That's the age of consent. That's it. It's
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: literally I think it's the youngest age of a consent
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: except for like one of the Arabic nations or something.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: It's like really, but that's something that you know, you
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: have to think about too, so that that case still
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: haunts the island. It will always haunt the island.
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 9: Is it like a government secret societies and they all
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 9: working together?
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: Well, I think yeah, a lot of the government officials
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: are in the secret society, so I would I would
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: say yes. Also, you know, I mean we're right by
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: South America, you know, by cartel activity, drug activity, it's
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: it's a major jumping off point for all things like
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: really evil in the world. Sadly so at the a.
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 10: Thirty second degree of freemasonry makes you a brother with
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 10: all of the pirates at sea. They be behind drug
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 10: trafficking operations, human trafficking operation since the beginning.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 11: You know.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 4: There's another weird question, but sorry, like kind of it's
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 4: on the same thing. But rotary club you have you
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 4: noticed any of those?
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: Of course, we have a rotary club.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 4: You gotta have your boats. They have boats and they're
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 4: from me. And anyways, they in the in.
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: The center of the town and around your side. I
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: have a picture of it. It's on my social media,
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: a picture of me standing in front of a monolithic
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: stone that they took from one of the rock formations
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: here where there were two monoliths. One is on the
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: ground broken and the other one they took. They literally took.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: I even asked the archaeologist maout and they put it
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: in the center of town. And that's their like monument,
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: the Rotary club monument. Is this ancient stone that they
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: took from this temple complex here in Ruvan moved it. So, yes,
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: the Rotary Cup of Aruba is here.
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 4: Lions Club too, let's throw that club as well.
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: If you don't, of course, yes we do.
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  Speaker 10: Spot They probably all come down from the States and
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  Speaker 10: do whatever they want to down there, have the big
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  Speaker 10: conference whatever, it's anything.
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  Speaker 6: A big sigil, yeah, whatever, exactly in the giant bones.
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  Speaker 4: Right, well, you.
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  Speaker 5: Wonder if that has something to do with it. Absolutely
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  Speaker 5: odd fellows have like bones in their temples.
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  Speaker 4: Suppose you know, the help.
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  Speaker 6: In the marrow and all that saying, you know.
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  Speaker 11: That's it's always been a sex cult. That's what they're
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  Speaker 11: doing in there. They're doing strange stuff with those bones.
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  Speaker 10: I'm telling you, it's interesting that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we're on an island that had giant giants.
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  Speaker 6: They call it a boner.
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  Speaker 4: I had to do it. At least a female could
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  Speaker 4: get away with that on.
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  Speaker 7: Sorry, I was gonna say it, but I was waiting
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  Speaker 7: for you, Julia.
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  Speaker 6: You know, I am the foulest one.
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  Speaker 9: Well, you got to wonder too, if any of this
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 9: stuff is a remnant of like so, so Julia talked
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  Speaker 9: about like maybe the Egyptians were Atlanteans, and then Headless
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 9: talks about the Canaanite Phoenicians coming over here. So like
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  Speaker 9: if and that's all in the Mediterranean, You've got like Egypt,
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 9: Middle East, and Mesopotamia all meet right there on that sea.
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  Speaker 3: And we know that they were coming over here. We're
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 3: starting to find all those ships and everything else. They
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 3: were coming in the copper mines. Of course they were
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 3: coming over here.
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  Speaker 9: So did they come and did they bring their pagan
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  Speaker 9: religion with them? And is there a remnant of that
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  Speaker 9: still lingering on these islands?
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  Speaker 1: That's yeah, that's a great that's a great question. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: for sure, because they were definitely over here. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we know for sure that people were traveling by boat,
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  Speaker 1: So that's very that's very possible.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, continue the elites really like to go on Onalysis's
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  Speaker 7: boat and hide out the logs as well.
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  Speaker 1: Well.
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  Speaker 10: The Path of Soul's religion was transmitted by the Manoans,
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  Speaker 10: and the Minoan civilization really took that religion everywhere they went,
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  Speaker 10: and so you find a lot of it in North
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  Speaker 10: America and probably down with the with the giants as well,
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  Speaker 10: So I mean that's probably where they picked it up from.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, the Manoans had an island with filled with caves
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  Speaker 9: beneath it.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I didn't know that. That's amazing.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, the Cadaanite Phoenicians, it's the same group.
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  Speaker 4: They just.
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  Speaker 8: It's definitely the same group because even in Peru, the
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 8: elongated giant schools that they've in Peru, they're all redheaded.
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 8: You know, it's like why do they all have similar
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 8: physical features? But are you guys big Donovan fans at all?
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 8: Do you listen to Donovan head listen to you? Do
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 8: you know that Atlantis?
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  Speaker 11: Yes?
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 8: They He literally talked about how Atlantis knew you know,
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 8: it could foresee its fate. So it sent out ships
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  Speaker 8: in seven different directions, and they made little capital cities
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  Speaker 8: all over the world, and they spread their culture and
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 8: their anyways. I know it's just a song, but I
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 8: really do think something like that happened.
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  Speaker 6: I think that they they set.
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  Speaker 8: Up like workshops all over the place.
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  Speaker 4: And the more you know, the more they did.
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 11: That theory is confirmed.
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  Speaker 10: That's the real problem is like the more you know
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 10: about this stuff and you see how it all spread out,
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 10: and it's all these very similar motifs being transmitted all
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 10: the way across the world.
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  Speaker 1: That had to be that and something that no one's
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 1: bringing up. With the Naska mummies, you know, the ones
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: that I don't know. I think you guys did a
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: show about the mummies, the three fingered Masca mummies that
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 1: they had these implants, right, they have these implants. The Perakis,
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: the elongated skulls of Paracas also had implants, and I'm wondering,
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 1: is there a connection, And no one has brought that up,
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: but I know I believe it's. Doctor Stephen Greer is
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: now down in Peru and he's doing testing on the implants.
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: The metal of the implants in the Colombian sphere that
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: just crash landed, that has all that strange writing on
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: it that they've deciphered in AI to have some like
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: message about higher consciousness. He's going down there with NASA
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: scientists to study the metal of the sphere and also
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: the metal of the implants of the Nasca mummies. So
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: I would love if you would also connect it, if
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: it could be connected to the implants and the elongated
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: skulls of the Parakas mummies, because it's the same thing.
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, I saw those and when I was in Lima, Peru,
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: I saw the skulls. I have pictures of it actually
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: my social media of the of the implants in their
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: in their heads and their teeth and their the back
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 1: of their head. I mean it's bizarre. I mean, implants
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: that are totally healed and completely stuck if fused into
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: the bone. It's just absolutely bizarre. And I kept trying
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: to figure out what would be the purpose.
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 6: Of voice the skull technology.
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 7: Yes, right, exactly, Yeah, that's like I mean those earphones
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 7: now even you can buy, like yeah, it's a real.
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 10: Think about the Aztec piercings, right right, The Aztecs had
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 10: piercings all over.
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  Speaker 11: That could have been a memory of that same sort
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 11: of implant.
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 8: Like an homage, right, like something that they had their consciousness.
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 6: What if it's in their consciousness. M so interesting, very interesting, weird. Yeah,
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 6: that's crazy cool.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, anybody were using the.
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 9: Copper for that too, just like connecting like they were
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 9: they think that they were putting copper on top of
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 9: the mounds over here in North America. And it's a
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 9: similar concept, I think to the tips of the pyramids,
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 9: because the pyramid tips used to be different or coated
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 9: in gold or some substance, and it was able to
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 9: signals and frequencies and all that were able to travel.
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, exactly, I agree.
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 7: That is very interesting one of these I was trying
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 7: to look while you were speaking about the Isosceles triangle
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 7: because it was driving me insane, and so I was
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 7: just trying to like go down a little rabbit hole there.
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 7: And it does talk about the connection between worlds with
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 7: this representation on occultism, So that would make a whole
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 7: lot of sense if you're if you've got you know,
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 7: something in you to store and the connection to the
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 7: higher realm that was I was talking about I didn't know, right, implants,
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 7: So that's yeah.
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the implants are fascinating to me. I can't wait
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 1: to hear. I hope we hear the results.
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 6: You know, you never really agreer. He can't be trusted.
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's we never hear anything about it again,
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 1: so you won't even go.
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 7: You know, they're doing all these big hearings right now,
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 7: and he's like, I'm sorry, I have a sniffle, I
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 7: can't come. And then they showed him at some like
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 7: place where he was talking and they're like, clearly you're
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 7: not sick, and they just have been doing this on
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 7: and on exactly.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: Yes, Yeah, it's very disheartening, but hopefully someone yeah, you
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: never know, but most likely will find out.
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 5: I hope you so you can compare it, that'd be great.
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry, So I hope you do, so you can
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 5: at least compare it to your stuff.
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 4: That would be great.
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. Yeah that's what.
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 6: Maybe they'll leak out something and we can all run
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 6: with it.
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and we can figure it out, all of us,
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 7: you as everybody just go on a mission.
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah, anybody out there.
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 4: Exactly, Yes, did anybody have any other questions? I guess, well,
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 4: it's almost too hot. Was actually a little bit longer
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 4: than I thought it great, Yeah, yeah, I was if anything,
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 4: maybe get you back on in the future put.
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 6: Down a rabbit hole with your ice Aaucles triangle. Sorry.
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I was really surprised to hear as much as
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 5: I did, and I was surprised how much.
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 4: I guess you were into other things too that we
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 4: talked about. I wasn't expecting all that.
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, definitely, So yeah, anytime, I'd love to come
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 1: back on. Yeah, it's just fun. It's great speaking with
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 1: you all. You're very knowledgeable, and I appreciate.
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 4: It, of course, No, thank you.
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 7: It's nice to decompress, right, like you said, with other
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 7: people that get it, because like my family just looks
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 7: at me.
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 6: Like I have out of my ears exactly.
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't even try to explain it anymore, you know,
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: it's anyway everything I say comes true anyway.
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 6: So well, you got a good track record, there you go. Sorry, good.
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 5: All right, Yeah, so I guess we'll wrap it up now.
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 5: I'll let everybody plug their shows again and then Heather
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 5: and we're done. You can let everybody know where they
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 5: can find you. Julia what is up? Please let everybody
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 5: know again where they can find your amazing work.
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 8: Some asshole also known as my husband is mown the
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 8: grass right now, so I hope you can't hear it,
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 8: But a Cosmic Peach podcast wherever you listen to podcasts. Heather,
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 8: it was so amazing to meet you and to listen
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 8: to your amazing research.
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 1: I was away.
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 8: You kicked my ass today, loved it, loved every minute
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 8: of it. Thanks so much, Nick for letting me be
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 8: a part of this one.
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 4: Hell yeah no, this was again, like everything that you
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 4: just said was mind blowing. And thank you for joining us.
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 4: And tell Colby I said, what's up? And I miss him?
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 7: Hi, I will, I'll tell him he's an asshole for
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 7: Juliet No, just kidding. No, I am Heidy, love of
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 7: the Unfiltered Rise. I'm everywhere podcast is served. I'm happy
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 7: to be part of the Occult Rejects. Happy to be
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 7: here as always. And Heather, you were just fascinating. I
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 7: appreciate you so much, thank you.
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you very much Heidi for joining it.
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 4: I appreciate it. And we got Tim Constantine from sixth
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 4: Century Podcasts. What was going on?
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 3: So yeah, Hey, happy to be here again. This was great.
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 9: My podcast, sixth Century Podcast is on Spotify, app with
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 9: YouTube and Patreon.
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 3: Thanks Nick, Thanks all the other rejects here.
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 9: Everybody brought something awesome to the table, especially Heather.
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 3: Heather, thank you. This was great.
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 4: Thank you definitely, Thank you very much Tim for making it.
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 4: I was excited when I show you pop up, so
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 4: I appreciate it and we got Headless Giant.
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 11: You can find me in just a little while.
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 10: We're gonna go live on the Headless Magical mail Bag.
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 10: If you have a scary or occult story, or if
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 10: you have a mall dream, if you've got a dream
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 10: about a mall that's like post apocalyptic, I want to
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 10: hear about it.
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 11: You send me an email.
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 10: At Headless Giant Podcast at gmail dot com.
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 4: Thank you, Yes, Headless Giant Podcast. That's it.
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 5: There's no ciphering, no just decrypting anything steady. Thank you
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 5: so much, Neflix and finally Heather, please again, thank you
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 5: so much. Like everybody said, you blow our minds. There
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 5: was so many things I did not think we were
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 5: going to talk about that we did and it was
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 5: amazing and we got to have you back on in
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 5: the future.
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 4: Heather. Please let everybody know where they can fund you.
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 1: Stuff great. Thank you so much, You're so great being here.
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 1: Please follow me on all social platforms at Heather l Arnold.
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 1: And if you are coming to a Ruba, I know
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 1: someone coming to your room. I do give tours and
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 1: you can contact me on my social media. My tour
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 1: company is called Ancient Aruba Tours.
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 5: Awesome, and thank you again so much, and thank you
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 5: all for joining me as well. And that is the
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 5: end of another record rejects until the next one. Everybody
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 5: be well later.
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  Speaker 9: The patons patent name of the Englan