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Brewsers #357- DJ Freeman · Brewsers

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Bruisers Podcast, Beer Coffee, Booze and Bruisers. I'm
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  Speaker 1: your host, Roddy John and today we talked to DJ Freeman.
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  Speaker 1: We talk about playing basketball, WWE tryout, and so much more.
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  Speaker 1: DJ is doing absolutely amazing things in basketball, whether it
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  Speaker 1: be helping others and what he's done on the court,
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  Speaker 1: but also he is hoping that he makes the WWE himself,
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  Speaker 1: and he did. You'll find out, but he might have
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  Speaker 1: a second tryout. So you don't hear from me, you
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  Speaker 1: want to hear from him. So, without further ado, here
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  Speaker 1: is DJ Freeman. I would like to welcome to a
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  Speaker 1: show with DJ Freeman. How are you doing today, sir?
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  Speaker 2: I'm great, man. How about you doing well?
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  Speaker 1: So flows listening kind of panished the word picture where
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  Speaker 1: you're at, what's going on around you?
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  Speaker 2: Man? I'm in Oka See, Oklahoma City, just enjoying my
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  Speaker 2: days working, getting money and wrestling playing back. You know,
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  Speaker 2: she's living life.
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  Speaker 1: That does seem very nice. Yeah, I haven't been to
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  Speaker 1: Oklahoma City in a long time. But it's long every dude,
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  Speaker 1: because you guys have definitely built that city up.
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  Speaker 2: Quite a bit, man, for sure, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's go all the way back in time. What
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  Speaker 1: is your earliest memory of par wrestling.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, Like as a kid just growing up watching John Cena,
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  Speaker 2: Sean Michaels, even going back to Hulk Hogan and Andre
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  Speaker 2: the Giant, Like, I mean, I've been a fan for
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  Speaker 2: a while. I went on Peacock when they shifted over there.
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  Speaker 2: I literally watched every match until a current day, So
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  Speaker 2: I mean I've been a fan of it for sure.
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  Speaker 2: I love that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you definitely grew up in a time
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  Speaker 1: where you got to see everything, like because the Internet
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  Speaker 1: was starting to come up, and yeah, it wasn't as
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  Speaker 1: obviously as advanced as it is now, but you could
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  Speaker 1: easily go and get those The DVDs were just like
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  Speaker 1: running like rampant, like there was so much stuff, and
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  Speaker 1: then the network came along, and yeah, like you said,
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  Speaker 1: once Peacock happened, it was like how old can I
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  Speaker 1: go with this like that? Because they have their tape
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  Speaker 1: library is just so massive and nobody thought about that
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  Speaker 1: for a long time, but they have so much stuff
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  Speaker 1: they do.
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  Speaker 2: Even remember the WW encyclopedia, Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Huh, I'm looking at it right now. I got it.
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  Speaker 2: Like my tenth birthday. Man, it was crazy. That's awesome
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  Speaker 2: for sure. Well how did basketball come in your life?
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  Speaker 2: So I grew up playing soccer? Oh, okay, kind of
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  Speaker 2: got taller, man. You know, soccer players are getting shorter
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  Speaker 2: by the day. So got into basketball. So that that
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  Speaker 2: helped me, paved the way to go to college, graduate,
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  Speaker 2: and still got the opportunity to go pro. But I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I've just been been just doing other stuff. So, I
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  Speaker 2: mean I've been playing ball for a while.
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  Speaker 1: What does what does a normal day look like for you? Like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so college schedule? What how that's a week? How many
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  Speaker 1: games do you normally have in a week?
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  Speaker 2: Normally have like two normally played Thursdays and Saturdays in
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  Speaker 2: the conference I was in, Okay, So I mean you're
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  Speaker 2: practicing pretty much every day. Maybe maybe not Sunday unless
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  Speaker 2: you got a tournament or something coming up. But it's
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  Speaker 2: not too hectic. Practices can be long and dragon though. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Oh I imagine, yeah for sure. Well, so how many
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  Speaker 1: coach you only went through one coach or how many
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  Speaker 1: multiple coaches or how many coaches you go through?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I went through I say two sets of them.
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  Speaker 2: So started at Oklahoma Baptist when I graduated in twenty one,
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  Speaker 2: played their two years and then transferred to Angelo State
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  Speaker 2: in San Angelo, Texas. It's in the middle of West Texas.
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  Speaker 2: But you're very successful, so applied to them. They just
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  Speaker 2: finished their season. They had a good season. Oklahoma Baptist
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  Speaker 2: is getting ready to go to the tournament.
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  Speaker 1: So nice them as well. So what did you what
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  Speaker 1: do you think you learned most from both of those coaches?
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  Speaker 2: Man first coach, kind of crazy. I learned how to
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  Speaker 2: I learned how to control myself. So like players nowadays,
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  Speaker 2: even the younger players, they don't understand like you can't
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  Speaker 2: just react off emotions, can just make emotional decisions. You
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  Speaker 2: got to literally like contain yourself, get a grip, think
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  Speaker 2: about what you're gonna say, do, and then go about it.
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  Speaker 2: So that was probably the biggest thing the first year.
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  Speaker 2: Second year, I broke my ankle, had surgery, had to
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  Speaker 2: sit out dang near the whole season, and so I
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  Speaker 2: learned a lot about myself, my physical, my mental, and
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  Speaker 2: my spiritual. So just learn how to do better, go
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  Speaker 2: better by people, and attack every day with purpose.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah for sure, Yeah, I want to get into that. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you said you broke your ankle, You're out almost an
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  Speaker 1: entire year. Did you still go to the games or
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  Speaker 1: did you just watch them on TV? And because it
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  Speaker 1: was too difficult to get.
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  Speaker 2: Out there, So I got my surgery and then my
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  Speaker 2: dad he drove the six seven hours to come get me. Wow,
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  Speaker 2: you brought me back out here. Okay, see, but I
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  Speaker 2: was here for a while. But the moment I could
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  Speaker 2: go back, I went back. And I traveled maybe once
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  Speaker 2: or twice, like I was rehabbing, couldn't walk for six months,
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  Speaker 2: so I mean that was kind of rough, but I
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  Speaker 2: was supporting them the whole way. So it was it
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  Speaker 2: was a process, but we made it through it. For sure.
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  Speaker 1: What was that joint? Like you talked about how you
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  Speaker 1: know you found yourself, you found yourself spiritually, where do
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  Speaker 1: you what do you think was your darkest moment and
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  Speaker 1: then what really took you out of that and kind
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  Speaker 1: of like you know, obviously found you found the purpose
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  Speaker 1: that you needed to.
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  Speaker 2: Man, Like college is hard, you know, life can be
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  Speaker 2: hard at times. I feel like that was one of
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  Speaker 2: my breaking points. Like I have been through multiple seasons
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  Speaker 2: of lives and just nothing was going my way. So
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  Speaker 2: to break my ankle on top of that, I was
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  Speaker 2: devastated man. Then on top of that, you can't walk,
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  Speaker 2: can't be social, you're taking payment. It's always in pain.
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  Speaker 2: So like I was always trying to do it my
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  Speaker 2: own way, do it myself. But I always tell people
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  Speaker 2: that injury was like an unexpected blessing because the only
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  Speaker 2: person I was forgetting about was God in that timeframe.
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  Speaker 2: So I got baptized not too long after that, and
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  Speaker 2: I've been locked in ever since. But dude, I found
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  Speaker 2: so much out about myself and just what I can
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  Speaker 2: do and just keeping faith and seeing what God has
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  Speaker 2: for you can can do for you in my life.
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  Speaker 2: So like that that really helped me change my perspective
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  Speaker 2: on a lot of things.
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  Speaker 1: I love that. That's huge. Yeah, I mean, unfortunately it
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  Speaker 1: takes you to some of the darkest places, but there's
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  Speaker 1: a reason why you were able to find it and
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  Speaker 1: find your way out of it.
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  Speaker 2: Sure.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, so how did the nil with WW kind
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  Speaker 1: of come in?
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  Speaker 2: So I came home, I had an extra year from
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  Speaker 2: breaking my ankle, turned down, schools, turned down other things,
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  Speaker 2: came home to play for Southern Nazarene, and no knocks
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  Speaker 2: to them, they just had a great season too. Wasn't
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  Speaker 2: a bet. It wasn't a best situation. It was. It
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  Speaker 2: was a bad situation for me. And I'm not one
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  Speaker 2: to start things and quit, but I had to walk
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  Speaker 2: away from that. It was bad. So a friend of mine,
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  Speaker 2: one of her friends actually is a part of the
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  Speaker 2: NIL program. She runs track at LCU and love it,
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  Speaker 2: and she sent me the Lincoln was like, yeah, sign
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  Speaker 2: up for the NIL and I was just like I
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  Speaker 2: it was kind of timid because like thinking, WWE, that's
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  Speaker 2: a childhood dream of mine, not expecting to do anything
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  Speaker 2: with it. But I was just kind of like, man,
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  Speaker 2: you know how many other people out here are probably
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  Speaker 2: signing up for this yep. So like she sent it
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  Speaker 2: to me, she said think on it. So I want
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  Speaker 2: to say it was a Saturday, Saturday night. I signed up,
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  Speaker 2: and by Monday I had the DM in my inbox
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  Speaker 2: and I was so shocked, Like and it was literally
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  Speaker 2: the week after I stopped playing basketball for Southern Nazarenes.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know how, what why, but they're rocked
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  Speaker 2: over there. Man.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah again, it does those things lining up for.
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  Speaker 2: You for sure. It was crazy just to see WW
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  Speaker 2: recruiting my inbox right and you.
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  Speaker 1: Were just playing basketball. You were on inn wrestling.
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  Speaker 2: You feel me never for day in my life. But
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  Speaker 2: that was like, it was crazy, But I've been I've
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  Speaker 2: been wrestling with a company out here just to get
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  Speaker 2: my feet wet, get the fundamentals called Unified Wrestling with Oklahoma.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Uh. The owner is Drake Gallows. He's an urban legend,
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  Speaker 2: been wrestling for almost twenty years now. Like, great guy,
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  Speaker 2: great group of guys and girls at the company, the
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  Speaker 2: dojo we call it. But man, they've definitely got me
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  Speaker 2: prepared for the tryout, and I've been enjoying it ever
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  Speaker 2: since I stepped a foot in the door.
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  Speaker 1: Tell us the name of that place again.
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  Speaker 2: Unified Wrestling of Oklahoma. UWO. Nice?
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  Speaker 1: What so? Tell us about your first bump.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't as bad as I thought. It was. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm a physical player in basketball, so I love taking bumps,
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  Speaker 2: even the days we take bumps at the dojo. I'm like, yes, yes,
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  Speaker 2: it makes you feel like a pro wrest You feel
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  Speaker 2: me alive.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Like, the craziest thing was, I didn't know that the
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  Speaker 2: rings have plywood on their own. Didn't know the ropes
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  Speaker 2: hurt like that took some adjustinge to but dude, I
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  Speaker 2: love everything about it. It's like just watching them, watching
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  Speaker 2: my favorite wrestlers of all time wrestle and being able
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  Speaker 2: to get a glimpse of what they do. Like that
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  Speaker 2: breaks so much joy to me.
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  Speaker 1: What was your first event that you went to live?
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  Speaker 2: It had to be in a Monday night raw. So
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  Speaker 2: when I lived in Montgomery, so I'm originally from Montgomery, Alabama. Gotcha,
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  Speaker 2: And that was the time frame of seeing Punkin and Nexus.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, like literally the week John Cena was
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  Speaker 2: supposed to come to Montgomery, Nixus had jumped him and
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  Speaker 2: he was in the hospital. I was like, ooh, that's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Never got to see John seen alive. But I was
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  Speaker 2: just actually at Monday Night raw out here whenever brocc
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  Speaker 2: lands and are tripped, remember that, Oh yes, that was
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  Speaker 2: here the case then until you'll be here on the
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  Speaker 2: twenty seventh of this month, so I'll show up for that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw that they're gonna be Yeah, they're up there,
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  Speaker 1: and then they're gonna be here. I say here in DFW,
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna be An Allen, which I guess is still
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  Speaker 1: technically part of DFW. It's so massive and so out
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  Speaker 1: of the way now, but yeah, I saw that, and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, that's interesting that they're going on tour.
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  Speaker 1: Good for them, which you know, I think. I love
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  Speaker 1: that they're doing house shows because they those guys and
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  Speaker 1: girls need the reps. But also I think we can
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  Speaker 1: start need to do house shows for the main roster
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  Speaker 1: as well. But hey, what do I know, man?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, happy for him. I got to meet a lot
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  Speaker 2: of that a lot of that crew out there, and
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  Speaker 2: they're all great people.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, tell us about your w W tryout.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, it was crazy, like.
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  Speaker 1: Did they fly you out there? Did you or actually,
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  Speaker 1: how did that whole process even happen that Hey you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna is it part of the NA in general? Or
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  Speaker 1: they were just you were just you put out the
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  Speaker 1: effort of like, hey, if you guys want me to
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  Speaker 1: try out, I'd love to try out.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So, like it turns out, so I graduated twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty five.
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  Speaker 1: Congratulations And a lot of people don't make that.
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  Speaker 2: Magnum kumla.
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  Speaker 1: What look at you, sir?
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  Speaker 2: Well you agreeing English with a minor and criminal justice?
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  Speaker 1: What are you going to do with that?
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  Speaker 2: Dude? I wouldn't love to work FBI like behind the.
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  Speaker 1: Scenes, I mean not right now.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, eventually, yeah, eventually, maybe I'll wrestle, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and I say, you wrestle first, then get the FBI later.
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  Speaker 2: It works. Happened. Yeah, I talked to miss Anna Anna
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  Speaker 2: Morris and she was like, yeah, we kind of just
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  Speaker 2: finished our deadline for the NIL So I was like,
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  Speaker 2: dangn I didn't know what none of that meant, you
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  Speaker 2: feel me and she was like, your try already, like
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  Speaker 2: we love to get you out to a tryout. Since
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't playing no more, I was able to attend,
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  Speaker 2: so it kind of like went from communicating to a
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  Speaker 2: lack of communication. So I was just kind of like, dang,
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  Speaker 2: maybe they like moved on from me because I had
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  Speaker 2: to shoot a promo and a few months. A month
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  Speaker 2: went by and she hit me up gave me the details.
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  Speaker 2: We all got on a zoom call, which was cool
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  Speaker 2: seeing everybody involved. Great people that was at the tryouts too,
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  Speaker 2: and they flew us out. We had rooms, we got
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  Speaker 2: some tryout shirts, and then that first night we did
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  Speaker 2: like medicals. We got to attend the NXT show, which
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  Speaker 2: was crazy. Watching all those people every week and being
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  Speaker 2: in the same arism was crazy. Then we got to
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  Speaker 2: do some ring work and talk to some of the
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  Speaker 2: best of the best, Like, man, crazy, like I'm still
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  Speaker 2: on cloud nine about it.
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  Speaker 1: Who was the first person you ran into that You're like,
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  Speaker 1: holy shit, how am I in the same room with
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  Speaker 1: this person right now?
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  Speaker 2: Man?
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  Speaker 1: Because I imagine it was like a trickle situation where
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't just like everybody all I want you, Like
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  Speaker 1: you see this first person and maybe the second person,
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  Speaker 1: You're like, what am I? Why am I here? How
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  Speaker 1: am I supposed to be here?
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  Speaker 2: So like we first arrived and Cam Hendricks he was
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  Speaker 2: in the ring. He was in the ring like rehearsing,
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  Speaker 2: and so it's like a full circle moment. So like
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  Speaker 2: I have a friend named Mark who was our GA
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  Speaker 2: at Angelo State and it was crazy like we were
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  Speaker 2: at Buffalo Wild Wings after church one Sunday and me
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  Speaker 2: I would always talk about, Yeah, I want to be
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  Speaker 2: in the WWE one day, Like I'm gonna get buked
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  Speaker 2: up for that. He was like, actually, my friend used
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  Speaker 2: to he's They used to play football at San Diego
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  Speaker 2: State together and he was his quarterback and he was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he's in WWE right now, showed me a picture of him.
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  Speaker 2: City would connect us never happened, but like I wasn't tripping,
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  Speaker 2: and then I'm walking in. I'm like, yo, like he
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  Speaker 2: looks like mad familiar, Like I know I see him
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  Speaker 2: on TV every week, but like it's crazy. I want
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  Speaker 2: to talk to him and mutual friend right there. So
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  Speaker 2: that was crazy. Then we get to the show and
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  Speaker 2: I see Sean Michaels. I was like almost almost fell out.
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  Speaker 2: I had to take the I was like fangirling, dude.
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  Speaker 2: Matt Bloom was there, Booker T's music hit. He was there.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, wow, yeah, like it's amazing people, amazing
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  Speaker 2: people X Pop. He showed up. That's my dad's favorite wrestler.
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  Speaker 2: So he was like he was nice enough and sent
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  Speaker 2: him a video told him to stay. I was like, man,
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  Speaker 2: that was crazy, Like like I can't even put in
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  Speaker 2: the words like the excitement. I know it seems like
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  Speaker 2: I'm holding it in, but like, dude, like I was
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  Speaker 2: like a little fan and girl out there.
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  Speaker 1: I yeah, no, I completely get it. I uh you know.
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  Speaker 1: I I'd gotten a media pass for the last WrestleMania
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  Speaker 1: that was here in in Arlington. As much as I
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  Speaker 1: want to say Dallas, that is definitely not Dallas.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: It was in Arlington, and I happened to acquire my
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  Speaker 1: way backstage and I start seeing people. I'm like, holy shit,
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  Speaker 1: like I'm not I'm not suppouted to be here, Like
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  Speaker 1: what what is going on? And then I started interacting
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  Speaker 1: with people when I was it just it felt somewhat
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  Speaker 1: normal by the end of it, but I was still like,
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  Speaker 1: there's still clos D Boston. There's Kurt angle Ring mysterious,
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  Speaker 1: you know, joking with people who are like what.
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  Speaker 2: Am I doing? You should have just walked through the entrance.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm trying to get I ain't trying to get
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  Speaker 1: tackled and all off to jail.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like it would have been worth it. Man.
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  Speaker 1: So NXT obviously is filming, and it's it seems a
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  Speaker 1: little bigger on TV and still seems a little small.
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  Speaker 1: But I imagine even in person, it's like there's likely
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  Speaker 1: anybody here, like this is insane.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So, like you go to a Monday night raw,
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  Speaker 2: they might pack out like an NBA stadium, you know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean. I feel like that's cool, Like I
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  Speaker 2: would love to experience that one day for sure. Like, honestly,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like it's kind of like basketball, the gyms
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  Speaker 2: that feel packed, feel tighter, smaller gets loud in there, dude,
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  Speaker 2: you can feel like people are on top of you.
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  Speaker 2: I love that feeling so like on in it like
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  Speaker 2: on TV NX, he looks kind of bigger than what
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  Speaker 2: it really is, right, like they're right where they need
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  Speaker 2: to be. If not, I say they should pack out
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  Speaker 2: stadiums too. But like, man, I enjoy what they have
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  Speaker 2: going like it's literally like it's great. It's great.
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  Speaker 1: Now. I love smaller venues too. It's my thing, Like
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  Speaker 1: I've been lucky enough to go to I think this
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  Speaker 1: year will be fifteen or sixteen WrestleManias. But like every time,
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  Speaker 1: I'm always like it's especially now that I'm in the
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: independent world. I see so many small venues, and I like,
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: I love independent wrestling so much that the bigger venues
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: are nice and it probably looks right on TV, but
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: energy wise, give me that smaller venue every day.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't, I didn't know how big the independent
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: world of wrestling was. Yes, So I talked to a
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: lot of the indie people at the trio, like at
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: the dropouts, Gray Man, like Nikki, it was so many people.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Richard holiday OPC's de but like dude, Like it's like
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: a whole other universe.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's massive for real. Yeah, and I love that
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma is getting so much more wrestling is going on
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: as well. Obviously Texas is on another level when it
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: comes to especially the style that it does. And I
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: am lucky enough to work up in Arkansas, so I
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: get to see what's happening over there. And again, I
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: love it when those people that go and work the
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Arkansas shows and they come work down in Texas. Afterwards,
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: they're like, holy shit, those Arkansas fans love it. But Texas,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: you really got to work for it. On yep, everything,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: you really got to work for it.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: Man, what would you say the biggest difference between states
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: would be like what gets somebody over and what doesn't?
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Oh that uh oh, that's always gonna change. I mean
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: you got to listen. If you're the first one going
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: out there, it can be interesting because they haven't seen
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: anything all night, and so anything you do could be
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: like the biggest thing because it literally is, especially as
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: somebody who's never been to a wrestling show before. But
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: you know, once you get that third or fourth match in,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: then you got to be like, Okay, what were they doing? Earlier.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: What were the fans really getting into earlier? All right,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: let me not do that stuff because they've already seen it,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: so let's change it up and do something else. So
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know, it's always gonna be different with different fans.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: And I mean, I love the seeing more kids. And yes,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: we're seeing obviously the wrestling fans that are always going
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: to be buying the belts or the money in the bank,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: briefcases or whatever it is. But you get you get
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: the parents that bring those kids. They love it like
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: it is it is the best thing ever.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I feel like that's all. That's what it's
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: all about. Like at one point we was those kids,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: you know exactly.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Well, so how would you describe your character?
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: My character? I haven't dug too deep into it, okay,
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: but like even just my persona as far as basketball,
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: like this is my logo. Yeah, I'll probably switch it up.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: But I love spiders so like I have fans in
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: me Spider Man quick like it's more so to spiders.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: So I feel like my life especially is built off perseverance.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Spiders are animal that that perseveres through whatever it is.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: Spider will do anything and his will to survive. So
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: like I feel like as far as character wise wrestling,
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: that would be me like whole Spider persona, you know,
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: like just persevering, like getting the people behind me, getting
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: them against me. However it comes like I'm gonna make
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: sure that I make it through whatever I make it
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: through with, you know. So man, I've been I've been
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: doing a little bit of thinking about it, but I
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: feel like that could that could go somewhere with that.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: The Irakan there you are, how's all you again? Six
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: six okay, so we'll say almost seven foot with wrestling,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Uh okay.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be like that.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you don't need to You're a big man,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: so like you don't I imagine you think you need
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: to do like so much stuff. But your trainers are
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: probably gonna be like work a big man style, like
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: obviously you want to work some kind of hybrid because
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: of the fact that you are always going to be
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: working with people most always working with people a little
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: smaller than you. So having to work every style is
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: gonna be great. And you know, obviously working the big
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: man style is gonna be good. And if again, if
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: you can get like some submissions, especially if you went
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: with the spider gimmick. I think, yeah, that would be
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: great too.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: For sure. Yeah, I think I want to like a
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: mix between a high flyer as a big guy okay
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: and a big guy so like I feel like I
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: could be a little heavier than Javon Evans, y know,
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: but also through basketball, like I have a forty five
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: inch vertical like whoas by it? That's by strong. So
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: like even at training here at the dojo, like we
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: did leap frogs one day, dude almost jumped through the
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: roof and they were like, they're like, I knew he
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: was an athletic, but I didn't know you were that athletic.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: But like humbly speaking, like, dude, I can jump. Yeah,
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: I want to. I want to be able to showcase
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: all of that. That's what people see, that's what they
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: pay to see.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: You know that's true. I mean yeah, jumping right up
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: on the apron. Brock is one of the only guys
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: really that I know off the top of my head
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: that really does that. So yeah, man, crazy, I think
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: that could work. Who are some people that you are
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: looking at when it comes to building either the move
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: set or even just little mannerisms when it comes to
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: the ring, who are you kind of like dissecting.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: I've been watching a lot of Trick. I love Trick
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Williams is Mike work, He's athlete, He's an athletic guy,
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: He's a bigger guy. Shavaan Evans, I actually got to
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: meet him when I was in Orlando.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Awesome booker t.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: And like my favorite is like Mark Henry the dog mentality,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: like getting it done, you know. So like I know
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: I named all black wrestlers. That wasn't a coincidence, but like, dude,
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: I take I take a little bit of like like everybody,
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like I feel like the
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: one person I would love to like kind of be
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: like but would never be like is like John Cena,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: not even from the wrestling aspect, Like dude, I grew
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: up watching John Cena and like hustle, loyalty, respect, like
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: his promos, his music, like the way he carried himself,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: like got me through you feel me right right. So
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Like as a wrestler, I feel like I would be
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: in it for the wrestling, the builds, all of that,
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: but like selfishly speaking, like for me, I'd like to
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: inspire others, like I do that now. With little kids.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: I coach little kids, so like just putting a smile
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: on their faces, putting a smile on other people's faces
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: like the biggest thing, like I feel for me that
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: I would love to do when it comes to wrestling.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: I love that so much. And I love that you
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: already have that mindset of that's what you want to do,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: as opposed to well, if it eventually happens, I would
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: love to inspire you know whatever, But no, you're You're
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: doing it on your own as it is, and then
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: you being on a bigger spotlight will obviously you'll be
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: able to reach more kids, and so that you can
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: inspire more kids. And I love and probably not even kids,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: like grown grown adults too, because your story of your
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: ankle injury and then coming back from that and then
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: finding out who you really are and then find yourself
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: spiritually as well. So that's a huge thing that I
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: think a lot of people can take from and learn from. Sure, yeah,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: I mean John was I wasn't the biggest fan of
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: John Cena, mainly because he was one of those dudes
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: he's got shoved down your throat all the time, and
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, he's never gonna lose is the worst.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: And then but towards the end, like you couldn't deny
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: who John Cena was, and obviously the US Open and
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: then his last tour. Whether he wanted it the same
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: way everybody else did or you know, big money has
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: a lot to say with how the company goes, but hey,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: it worked. It sold them a ton of merch people
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: were talking about it. That's that he'll turn is exactly,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: honestly what everybody wanted at some point, they just maybe
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: not at the very end. But we got it, and
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: we got the meme, and we got now the meme
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: of him smiling basically at the end of a movie saying,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: all right, good enough.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Dude, they're wrong, They're row After that that event with
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: gun they're coming out.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Just the best heat ever it was he is he
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: gun through is so fantastic. I got lucky enough to
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: see him as Walter wearing one of the WrestleMania weekends.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: I think it was a progress show. And then now
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: that he's doing absolutely amazing things, it's Gun there. He
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: doesn't need to be in the title picture, and people still, yeah,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: it's great.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: He might go down as one of the greatest heels
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: uh huh.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: And it's not just because he's foreign, it's because of
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: like just the guy who he is. It's not one
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: of those old school always a foreign guy, so of
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: course we have to do him. But at some point
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: he'll be a good guy, I imagine, So he can't
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: be a bad guy the entire time for sure.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Man, for sure, How do you oh my bad?
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, go for.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Ian to say, how do you feel about how everything's going?
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: As far as the storylines leading up to WrestleMania.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Now, I am not. I still think they're not sure
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: as to what is happening he WrestleMania, which is weird
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: considering how close we are, but almost thirty days. Yeah,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: it's I don't know. I think the whole Drew thing
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: if he's actually going to film Highlander at some point,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: I would have been like, hey, guys, is there a
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: anyway I could just wrestle at WrestleMania and then go
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: film The Highlander like that? If that's what that's happening.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: I have no idea. But you know the storyline of
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Cody and h RK and Randy, it goes back years
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: and years, So I feel like the bill should have
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: been bigger. I mean again, we still have a month,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: so we can still really build this up. I loved
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: what now we're doing with the Judgment day turning on
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Finn Valor, that one coming. I loved it, especially especially
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: JD you given the clothes line, Like, yeah, that one
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: really took me for a loop. But that's how you
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: build up to Domin thin, which I'm okay with. I
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: love that. It's unfortunate that Dominic is not a double
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: champ anymore. I love He's fantastic. I love him.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: You gotta love him. I don't what do you think
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: they're gonna do with the new guy? Is it don Houson? Oh?
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Dan Housen. Dan Housen should be the host of WrestleMania
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: if he doesn't have a mask with the Miz Maybe,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think they should hang out more.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: I think they should need the buddy like opposite or
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: odd couple type situation with Dan Housen and the Miz
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: for a while. I think that would be really good. Obviously,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: we know the move is going to turn on him
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: at some point.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: You're gonna keep cursing, Yeah, I mean it's working. It
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: is who you curse last night the original.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: El Grande Americana.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: That was crazy, and he's he was on the independent scene.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Right, Oh a long time. Yeah, he was signed to
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: AW I think for three years. No, he may even
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: three years. I now we get injured at some point.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: But I mean, comedic wise, he's fantastic. He's really fun
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: in the ring too. I was actually just watching one
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: of his matches from GCW this morning while I was
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: doing cardio, and I was like, he's just like he
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: knows what to do out there with the crowd, so
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: and he's a friend of Seeing Punk, So I know
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: that's definitely one of the reasons why he got signed,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: which is not a bad thing because Dan Hausen on
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: this level is going to be even better because AWA
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: feel like they didn't know completely what to do with him.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: They just kind of threw him with another quote unquote
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: comedic wrestler with Orange Cassidy. But I think by himself
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: or just playing off other people is going to be
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: even better, and the merchandise is going to be through
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: the roof. He's going to be very wealthome for sure. Man.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: That's awesome.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, are you consuming other wrestling now that you are?
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Obviously you're figuring out more about the independen scene.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I am. I still I still make sure I'm
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: ted on basketball, just did any time. But dude, like, honestly,
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: the tryout appearing the way it did, like I feel
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: like I could really do something. It did, like you
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: know what I mean. So I did get a call
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: back they want to see me again. So I think
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: I'll be at the summer Slam tryout coming up in Minnesota, right, yep,
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: that's man. I'm just do what I did the first
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: time and leave it all out there.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, at the end of day, it's all
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: you really can do.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: See what happens. But no, I feel good about it.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: I feel good about all of it. Just blessed. Man.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: It's don't even have the words to express, like my
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: my gratitude and thankfulness towards all of it. So I'm
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: gonna stick with it for sure.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Good. Yeah, as you should. It's an amazing business and
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: you know, again, you're trying to inspire kids at the
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: end of the day, and that's mostly who comes after
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: wrestling chefs, which is always great. But man, well, I
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: mean so as much as obviously basketball and PROG wrestling
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: as the spirit or is a physical sport, it's very
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: much of a mental one as well. What are some
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: mental workouts that you kind of try to, like to
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: keep up with?
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: So I haven't I haven't really experienced too much of it,
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: but I will say for the time being, I've done
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: like a few, like matches at dojo. They're not really
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: like aired other than on YouTube, but just going through
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: the matches, like you can't just go through the motions.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: You can't, but you can't. Like it's literally, like I
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: mean my only reference would be like basketball, Like you
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: literally have to prepare for it. Yeah, like physically mentally,
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: like you have to have the spots down. Like it's crazy.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: So like I could only imagine what else there is
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: to throw into perspective when being an actual professional wrestler. Yeah,
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Like I'm not even sure if I'm guessing booze get
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: to you get to you know what I mean, like
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: not educated enough in it, because I mean I just
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: started maybe two months ago, But that's true. But like, dude,
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: it's crazy.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, as long as they're reacting, I think at
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: the end of the day, that's all the matters.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: True. Keep death in mind going.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Forward, Yes, the last thing you want is no silence
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: or you is silence? That's the last thing you want.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think that would trip me out, like
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: am I doing something wrong? Yeah?
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Exactly, And you get in your own head and you're like, yet,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: what am I doing next?
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Man? Did you do anytime wrestling?
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: No, I've been. I've been. I did backstage interviewing. I've
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: been a ring announcing and commentary now, so no. I
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: mean I kind of know how to work the crowd
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: a little bit, obviously being the ring announcer, but I
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: am not one that really needs to be stirring up
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: a bunch of cheers or booze either way. So luckily
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: I have not been booed yet. But I always like
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: to make start the show, but make sure everybody knows
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: what to do when a good guy or a good
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: person comes out and then a bad person comes out.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: So they'd been doing really well so far.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: I have to get to your next showing, booty, since
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: you please do? Yeah, Man, what do you think is
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: hard or ring announcing or commentating?
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Commentating? So far it's I'm more new to that, but
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: again it's it all depends on the person. Because I'm
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: used I have no issue speaking in front of a crowd,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: no matter how small or how.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Big it is.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: And I know a lot of people really have that issue,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: which you know, being a performer is probably not something
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: you need to be doing unless you're getting in your
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: fear over. But commentary you can do and nobody really
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: sees you. Like, we do it after the show's already done,
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: so we'll do it in posts. But even if you're there,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: nobody's really seeing you do commentary. They might like if
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: WW or whoever, they will put the commentators on the screen,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: but for the most part, you're not being seen at all,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: so that one can be a little easier.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, it works, dude. Yeah, the crowd thing, I
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: feel like I could be good at that. It is
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: nerve wracking at first, especially promos are crazy. So back
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: to Orlando. We had to shoot our promo like literally
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: straight at a camera. Yeah, straight at a camera. You
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: got just NXT talent and other people just you wouldn't
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: expect you're just watching me. Mm hmm. It was. It
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: was a little nerve wrecking I had I remember Bailey
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: was right there.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Oh that's awesome.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: I'm just like god like dude, I can't mess up
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: ard like I'm in the present right here. You feel
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: me so like.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: You almost want to get that mess up out of
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: the way, just so you're like, Okay, I got the
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: one out and then I'm good.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Now. Yeah you feel me, you feel me? But yeah,
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: I can see I can definitely see what you mean
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: by that. Yeah.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Well, I have a second on the show. I call
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: it the five count. It's just five random questions.
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  Speaker 2: Better, let's do it.
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  Speaker 1: Number one, what are you nerding out on right now?
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  Speaker 2: Dude?
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  Speaker 1: W W E love it? How far back have you gone?
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  Speaker 2: Probably like the whole Coogan and Andre to the Giant.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that build up was all. That whole show
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  Speaker 1: was good. Number two. If you owned a liquor company, brewery, winery,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: coffee shop, or dispensary, which one would you own? And
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: what would the name be?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, Maybe like a Starbucks, but I'll call
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: it free Bucks and I'll give out free coffee.
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  Speaker 1: That's I like that. Number three. What would your last
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  Speaker 1: meal be?
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  Speaker 2: Mm? Probably a good platter of Caribbean jerk chicken with
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  Speaker 2: some rice on the side, all right, the side of
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  Speaker 2: fries and Fanta orange.
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  Speaker 1: Love that. Number four? Who or what inspires you.
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  Speaker 2: My mother and father inspire me the most, just the
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  Speaker 2: sacrifices they've made being in the military twenty five years,
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  Speaker 2: but also the sacrifices they made for me and my
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  Speaker 2: brothers to be where we are and not want or
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  Speaker 2: need for anything because they'll help us, like they'll provide
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  Speaker 2: it for us. Like that inspires me. Just them being
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  Speaker 2: them makes me want to be better each and every day.
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  Speaker 1: That's huge. I love that. And number five, what would
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  Speaker 1: you tell your seventeen year old self?
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  Speaker 2: Never give up despite what's going on in your life, Like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't care how hard it gets, how tight money gets,
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  Speaker 2: how unlikely the road gets, Like, stay faithful and be
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  Speaker 2: true to yourself and know that you can do whatever
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  Speaker 2: you want.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Well, if people want to find out more about you,
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  Speaker 1: follow you online, see your journey, help support you in
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  Speaker 1: a way, how can they do so?
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  Speaker 2: Instagram? Instagram is where I post majority of my life.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not really a social person social media guy, but
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to get better at it. But yeah, D
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  Speaker 2: do J I F dot R E E M A
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  Speaker 2: N for freemen. Yeah Instagram, but yeah, keep up with
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  Speaker 2: me here and reach out.
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  Speaker 1: I love it, DJ I can't wait to see where
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: the future holds for you, where with wrestling or anything
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: outside of wrestling, so maybe even the FBI. We'll see. Soh,
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  Speaker 1: I love it. I can't wait to have you back
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  Speaker 1: on the show later and uh it's gonna be fun.
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  Speaker 2: So I appreciate you in your time.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you DJ for being on the show again.
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  Speaker 1: Definitely go follow him on social media see what he
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: is up to. He is up to some very inspirational things,
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  Speaker 1: whether be on the basketball court. We're obviously in the
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  Speaker 1: w w E rings and fingers crossed that that next
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: tryout works out really well for him. So while you're
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: following him on social media, definitely go follow us on
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  Speaker 1: Roady John. That is R O D I E j
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• 38:29
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  Speaker 1: It is official Order john So until next time, make
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  Speaker 1: sure to enjoy life, drink local and cheers.