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Is this Good for Golf? · Sports Exchange

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Happy Wednesday, everybody. Welcome to another edition of the Sports Exchange. My
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name is Scott Morgan. Rof'm MotorCity mad Mouth. I'm excited tonight because you
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know what, it's offic show. Our merchandise is out there, so when
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you go inside the chat link, go ahead and look for it, and
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then you can find your favorite South Florida Tribune and MotorCity mad Mouth merchandise out
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there, so feel free to click on the link provided in the chat.
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I'm also happy because I got a couple of new fresh voices and faces here
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to the broadcast on the Sports Exchange. I want to introduce Leo Haggerty,
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a guy that I work with as well on Friday. Welcome to the Big
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Show, Leo, Hey, thanks for having me. Scott, finally get
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to get on with you on your own show. Well you know, I'm
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hoping he'll be coming on more often. I love working with you on Ralph's
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show, so it was a natural bringing you on here, and I'm glad
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we get to do this. So but that said, but you know what,
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Joshua Door, one of our biggest followers, wants you to do a
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dog check, So just say dog check, dog check. There you go,
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good enough. Gosh, all right, well that said Bow knows that
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drill well too, well, there you go. But that said Bow knows
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that drolls. You don't have to say it, but Bo, welcome to
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the Sports Exchange. Thanks for having me on. Guys, and last but
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not leaves, we got George Ikhorn. Hey, good to be with y'all.
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You and I. Let's have a great show. We'll do that.
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We got a loaded show. We're talking golf, we're talking football, and
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we're talking basketball. With that said, let me get to the first topic.
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Okay, Bo, obviously I guess you want to deffurrough this, but
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the topic is anyway, the PGA Championship invites seven live players. Is this
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good for golf? Bo? What do you know? Well, so I
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don't follow golf. To me, it is a drinking game with my friends.
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That being said, they're going to have to do something like that because
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the live Tour, although they're throwing a lot of money at it, just
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isn't. They're just not competing quite the same way. So they're they're going
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to have to They're going to have to incorporate some of them to bring some
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balance to golf in general. So it'll probably be fine. Okay, that's
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good enough, George. I was encouraged by the move, guys, because
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you know, last year they had a sort of a tentative kind of announcement
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that they were going to try to work together more often. And the PGA
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Championship, which obviously is one of the one of the Grand Slam events,
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is going back to Valhalla in Louisville, Kentucky for the fourth time, and
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that's I believe May sixteenth to the nineteenth, and I think it is good
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because I want to see all of these stars that are supposed to be the
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top players in the world, and the fact that they are allowing seven of
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them to from the Live Tour to be part of the PGA of America's event,
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which is, like I said, a Grand Slam event, the PGA
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Championship. I'm encouraged by that. I know they say that negotiating or the
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talks between those two tours is not maybe progressing as fast as some people would
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like, but like I said, when you've got a big event like this,
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I think it's important for the fans, for the viewers at television viewers,
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and of course the golfers themselves. To be on the same in the
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same great tournament of these Grand Slam events. So you know, I'm glad
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that liv got a few slots in there. And also I understand Tiger Woods
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is going to play too, so that it to be a really good field.
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I can't go to Joshuador's comment and falls into the GMTA stands Great minds
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think alike. We know that Bo was not a big fan of dog checks.
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We got that part. Okay, that's fine. Leo's a new guy.
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He gets used to deal with the guys. Golf is better when the
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best players are in the same field. No personal cashuall it is in George
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and I experience with the cart and with the cart and the indie series.
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We're not going to get into that. But you're better off reunited instead of
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not being united. With that said, Leo, you have the worst.
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You had the last word on this. Well, you know what, guys,
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I don't care who you invite as long as his name is not Jesus
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Christ Scottie Shepards. He's on fire right now. Let's be honest. Because
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last five events he's one two, Sandwich the second second place and then won
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the next two. There's nobody hotter. And I said this, and Scott,
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I think you can remember this, like two or three months ago,
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Scottie shepperd ever figures out how to put no one's going to beat him.
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All of a sudden he changed cutters and look what he's doing now. So
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yeah, bring anybody you want to. Scottie Scheffer's on fire right now.
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Well, hey, you know, boy, I hate to ask you this
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what Josh was doing? Question bo, why are you anti dog check?
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Uh? Yeah, just not my thing, I gotta know. Yeah,
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good enough. You get plenty of other uh you know participations. So was
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a question for Leo. Are you a hockey fan? Oh? Absolutely,
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I can even tell you what off sides is? So yeah, you gotta
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be a hockey fan. Right, Well, good, next time we bring
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on the show, we'll do more hockey tonight, though, we're gonna stick
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to the business in hand. And yes, Josh, real quick, you
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talked about Nascar. How about that finish in Kansas in the Alps. Have
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you ever seen that close to finished where ink was the difference in one thing
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within the other. Wow, Well, if you're gonna do that, you
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might as well talk about the incredible finish of the Kentucky Derby as well,
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because I'll tell you what what it was. It a three horse photo finish.
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My goodness, that was unbelievable, misstic Dan won by a nosehair,
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not a nose, a nose. And I'll tell you what, I didn't
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think anything could top that. And then you haven't held four hundred that.
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I've never seen a NASCAR finished that close. So yeah, we had great
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finishes. Yeah, it doesn't happen that often, but Scott and I know
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that there was a real close one in five hundred and two one year.
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Yeah, way back in the eighties, I believe it was. But yeah,
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I was a great race. Yeah, a thousandths of a second is
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crazy, Yeah, it really is. You can possibly get right there,
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uh any closer than that, they were going to have to add a digit
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to the uh to the counter. And yet ironically they occurred on the same
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weekend. So you talk about incredible finishes in the first week of May,
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can you imagine a kind of a sports month we're in for I don't know.
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All right, now onwards we go Aaron Donald JJ Watt talking about unretirement
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for this year. All right, George, I'll let you lead off with
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this guy, Well, uh, we might as well throw Tom Brady in
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again. I mean, you know, the guys they talk about retirement.
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But you know what, I got to say this that it is not just
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recently. We've seen a lot of guys do this and ladies where they want
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to come out of retirement. They're athletic careers. They announces as being finished
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or over or concluded, and then all of a sudden they say, gee,
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what am I going to do with my time? Or gee I could
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still hit the golf ball or I could still throw the football. Doesn't surprise
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me. I do not know if this is going to happen with those guys.
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But boy, oh boy, you talk about getting you know, getting
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the itch to to come and and come out of retirement and start resume your
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pro career. I shouldn't they started resume it. I don't know. I'm
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not them. I can't speak for them. I assume they're in a physical
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condition that would would allow it. But maybe you can shed more light on
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a bowl because I don't know, does it obviously must revert back to the
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last team they played for as far as who has the rights to the player,
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even though they don't have a current contract. But I don't want to
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get into all that, Manusha, unless you guys want to. But I
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don't mind Scott. I mean, if that's what they want to do,
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and there's a there's a suitor out there or a buyer out there, all
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the more power to them. I don't know. We'll see, all right.
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Let me go to Joshua door real quick before he puts the bow in
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here, because you've got a bowl in there. Anyways, bruins and five
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yeawl you change your tumbe pretty good. Bow is not a fan of josh
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and the guys. You know, that's funny. I have no problem with
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the guys. I just not jumping in on the dog checks like I don't
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know, Come on, John, to me a favor. Don't get overly
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sensitive here, find out loud. Yeah, they're here to talk sports.
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That's not every There aren't many shows that talk about donks. We allow it
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to go. You know, you know, many years ago, I used
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to be a fan of greyhound racing, you know, many years ago.
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And in fact, you know I'm gonna before I turned it over to Leo
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and Bow. Well, no, you know what, I'll get to the
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dog racings or mine, so both, since it was your topic, what
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are your thoughts about it? Yeah, so I mean the two are different,
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right because JJ Watt has been removed from the sport for a couple of
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years now, right, And Aaron Donald he walked away at the end of
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this last season, so he would if he were to come back, he
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would be a ram, right, That's how we got That's how we would
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land. And it seems like for Aaron Donald because he definitely still has,
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you know, life in the tank, and I think the time away from
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football can make you realize maybe you're not quite done. So I think Aaron
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Donald probably has the best chance of coming back. When you listen to JJ
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Watt, he was He sent the message out to Demiko as Hey, if
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you really need me, I'm still training like I played, give me a
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call, but only if you really need me. And he would add an
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interesting element to that team. But that one seems like a less likely scenario.
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But Aaron Donald coming back, it could be a very real thing.
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And as a fan of the Seahawks, he would land in my division.
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And so I hope he stays retired for you know, for my quarterback's sake.
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I'd like to see that. As a sports analyst, obviously, you
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want to see him back on the field because he's one of the best ever
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do it. That's interesting, Okay, Leo. You know what, guys,
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I hate to deal with the minutia, but they got to come back
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to their teams. That has a contract on him. So I got a
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feeling that the Bucks, in the Rams and Houston, they could get a
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whole lot of trade value for these guys. You know what, if people
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even think Tom Brady can play anymore, that's you know, trust me,
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he's done sticking for him. I'll tell you what. The last pass he
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made against Dallas, they were playing rock paper scissors in the Dallas secondary to
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figure out who's going to intercept it in the end that one. So,
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yeah, hey it's time. And you know what, after that roast the
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other night, I don't know how you could even come back when you actually
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get up and say, hey, the NFL spent twenty million dollars. I'm
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told him I did it, and you know what, there was no doubt
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he did it. That's the funny thing. So you know, white even
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bother, but yeah, that's it. Aaron Donald, He's got a shot
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JJ, maybe a little bit down the road. Brady, absolutely none.
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All right, Candy to the chat, Candy to the chat. Room.
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Will start off with Robert Ordell. Josh I told you don't try and poke
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the bear. He will destroy you, all right now, Joshua Door is
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a fan of yours, okay, because Robert Wardell is in his head right
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on. While I know I like this one here, this is a great
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one. This is a compliment from this guy, Leo. I can see
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Leo being a good ball buster in other words, and he's not in his
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head. We got to get Leo back on here. He's already winning the
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popularity in the chat anyway. Oh and I were talking about you in the
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queue at the draft party. It's humor. You gotta be witty, and
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really, Bow was professional. The thing in these guys is they're trying to
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be professional. Great mind thinking like Robert. But you know what Joshua Door
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is learning. He's getting there once he understands our personalities. He even got
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coach John finum Mago to say a dog check yesterday, and that wasn't easy
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to do, but he did get to do it. Once coach figures it
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out, you would have had fun. Uh, if you would have came
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to the draft party we were at, you'd had a time. Here you
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go, all right, now, out onto my dog story. Okay,
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once upon a time I used to like to go to the greyhound races here
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in Hollywood, over on Pembroke Road and Pembroke Road in US one. I
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enjoyed over the Hollywood dog track. Now let me tell you this. Okay,
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many years ago, when I was doing a seminar out in al Paso,
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Texas, I went to the dog track out in Wars Mexico. And
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if anybody's ever been to war As Mexico, oh, is that a dirty
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place? But I figured, what the heck? So what I decided to
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do was I decided to depend on a dog named Bill Walton. I figure,
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maybe the dog's got to be better than the actual basketball player. What
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do you think happened? Bill Walton, the dog, not the player?
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Finished? And last my I started drinking in my pop and I and I
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got sick off the water in Mexico and lost with Bill Walton's go figure.
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But I still like greyhound rach Josh, And I don't know if that's what
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the dog check, but it was. At least he got a dog story
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out of me. Now as far as staying on point here, okay,
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with Donald, you've got a championship ring. If he comes back, it's
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gravy jj wats yearning for that championship ring. I can actually see him coming
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back. And he's already said he would to Jamiico. Ryan is what he
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said, if you really need me. So one has a ring, the
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other one doesn't. We'll see how it plays out from there. All right,
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well, let's let's keep it going next year you're in Seattle. Will
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make it happen for talking about all these parties and also at the dog track
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in Mexico they eat the lose out. I I don't even forget that.
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Thank god I had dinner. Josh. Let me jump in here real quick.
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I'll be Seattle doing a football camp out at Pacific Lutheran in July.
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If you're down there, big boy, let's get together. Yah, that's
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what I mean. That's what we like to do. We bring on new
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people when you come in that area, Bengal, that's what you have there.
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Okay, So that's what it's all about. And like I said,
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I've dealt with a lot of individuals at sports media before and when Leo and
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I go on Ralph Williams External Bump Show, we have a lot of fun,
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don't we. Oh it's hey, it's it's fair game from the time
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you walk in the door there, buddy, that's for sure. Yeah,
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you and I. You and I definitely are the life of the show,
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and Ralph does what he's got to do. But when you put Scott and
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Leo at each other, I'll tell you what it is a It is a
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lot of fun and there's never a dull moment when we go out there and
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get on. That's why. And the FAU all year, I mean,
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hey, what the heck it was finn Yeah, and we met over at
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USF at the Sundome as I call it, not the Yingling Center. I
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never knew it was anything but the Sundome and that's a place where I got
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my degree. We did take a photo. So, like I said,
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I'm looking forward to bring in Leo on more shows. We just get to
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pick up where we left off on Fridays, right, Leo, good stuff,
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right, Hey, it's not for the paint of heart. If you
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can't take it, get out of the kitchen, because it's getting hot.
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Yeah, well you know what, Ernie Harwald came up with that one.
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If you can't stand you know the kitchen, you know. All right,
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So I don't know where you heard it. I heard it from Ernie,
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all right. Third topic to not wa is mishiling a prime marketing opportunity?
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All right, Bo needs a clarification on this. Yeah, so this is
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something that it's it's disappointing. You know. Of course here in Seattle,
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we live in a market that has a w NBA team, one that's been
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highly successful through the years. Right, they won four championships, and you're
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coming off their best draft class ever. Right, most people have an idea
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of who the top seven draftees were. Right. And unlike a lot of
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drafts where there's a huge gap between the end of a season and then there's
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the draft and then another big gap before the season starts, for the WNBA,
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their national championship was just over a month ago, Right, lots of
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TV coverage, lots of hype around Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark and you know
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all all of those top players. Right, So then you go directly into
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the WNBA draft. Largest viewership it's ever had by a large margin. Right,
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So then two and a half weeks later, just a few days ago,
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we hit the preseason for the WNBA. What's crazy about it is,
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I bet none of you even knew because they are not marketing at all.
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And if they were, if they were smart about it, because people are
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still prime to watch basketball, right, NBA is in their chance. They're
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in the playoffs right now, right, so in between these games, they
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could be hyping up these preseason games where they have, you know, last
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year's national champion going against Kitlyn Clark, the number one overall pick, like,
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you could be hyping these things up, and their media train is just
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not really doing it at all. And so for most people, you'd have
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to look up the fact that preseason has already started, even here in Seattle,
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you're not really seeing anything that's letting you know. The WNBA has started,
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and they're sitting on all of this great media that they just went through
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the national championship and they're doing absolutely nothing with it. Interesting, very interesting,
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All right, Leo, what's your take on this? You know,
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not only are they sitting on it, they haven't realized that Caitlin Clark is
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the exponential change in the WNBA. I had my reporters fighting over who would
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cover her. That's how I mean. You look at last year. Yeah,
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Connecticut had a good season with the men, but when you talk about
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one player, it was Caitlin Clark. Men, women didn't matter. And
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you're exactly right. W NBA is missing the boat on this because they should
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be hyping this up to the nth degree, because this is your one shot
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to get this done. You're not going to get another Caitlin Clark. Come
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out that somebody's hitting jump shots consistently from the logo and they are whoever is
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running the media for the WNBA, they need to be looking for a job
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because they are missing the boat completely. Hey, that ship may have sailed.
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That's what's even worse about it. Yeah, all right, George,
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No, the ship has not sailed. Leo settled down. I agree that.
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I'm sorry, George, it hasn't sailed. It's sunk now, it's
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not. No, it's not. It's far from that. Caitlin is going
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to do a good job. I do agree with Paul that they did skip
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a beach. I believe the reason is, don't forget they still cawt out
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to the NBA. Mister Silver he you know, you've got a commissioner of
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the w NBA that that that lady that was there for the draft, and
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I mean, don't get me wrong, it just was not the best of
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timing because the fact that the NBA was starting its postseason. I'm not giving
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them any excuse, okay, And I do agree that they and like you
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said, bow well, then got gone make up for it now during the
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NBA playoffs. But don't forget so much of that commercial time every minute is
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allocated in those games by the networks. But if I'm a ESPN or I'm
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you know, ABC or whoever is doing the w NBA, Fox Sports,
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whatever, I want to be at the table there and I want to have
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that discussion. Bo. I agree that they should have talked about this a
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long time in advance, that hey, look, you know, it's a
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banner year for the NCAA women and we need to you know, piggyback on
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this. I know what, I know exactly what you're saying. Detroit.
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Now, I'm to us, they took the w NBA team that Detroit chuck
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out of here. And if Scott knows, even though they won championships,
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even though they had great management from Bill Davidson and Tom Wilson and and Bill
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Lambia's head coach. I mean, Detroit lost that franchise. So don't I
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mean, I know what you're saying, Leo, but no, don't don't
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bury them yet. Okay, don't bury the w n b A yet.
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There's still a lot of exciting teams. But like I said, I am,
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I am with you on the fact that this marketing opportunity they cannot close
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the door on right now. So well, you know, let let let
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me float the conspiracy theory part of it. That is so because the NBA
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it does control, you know, the w n b A right Like,
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they're there, They're control, They're controlling interest in it. Are they realistically,
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especially with the new TV contract coming up, are they deliberately stunning the
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growth because it's a tax shelter for him? You know, I'll jump on
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that one because I you're right. And here's what my blog today was talking
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about what's broke and needs fixing. My blog was the NBA. There are
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three things in the NBA right now that really make it unwatchable for some people.
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One, the constant whining of players, especially superstars. Hey, you're
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not getting fouled every time you take a shot. Stop it the second the
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embellishment of contact. Look at the Knicks last night with the When I was
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watching soccer, I was looking for Manchester United and man City City. The
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first day, the last two minutes of the game are the longest time.
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It is almost unberrible, a lot the last two minutes of the NBA because
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they are reviewing everything fall. It's terrible. So the n behas to get
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its house in order because they are losing viewers by the millions right now because
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it's just unwatchable. All right, Well, let me add a few things
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to this, because this is a good topic, better than I thought it
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was. Bo Now that I hear what's coming out of number one, maybe
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I took a dumb pill, but I'd like to know why the WNBA is
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on Ion Television, the home of crime shows number one on Friday night,
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number two. I also believe that Caitlin Clark's addition to the league will be
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the equivalent to Larry Burdon Magic Johnson to the NBA when obviously the NBA was
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on tape delay. So I believe that this is an opportunity for Caitlin Clark
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by herself, okay, to go out there and make that impact. And
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by the way, as if it isn't good enough, she's already got a
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seven figured endorsement deal to begin with. So there's anybody that I could classify
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as a savior for the WNBA, Caitlin Clark will bring that audience. But
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give me a break Ion television. I'm used to watching crime shows on that
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and I'm not used to watching women's basketball, and I would think they have
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to rethink that thing. Ad Lot, George, Okay, you know,
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I know the Detroit Shock loss. There is the Houston comments. If you
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look at the WU NBA. Okay, how many championship teams did they lose
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that went defunked? Now, Leo, I'll tell you one thing about the
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NBA. What killed it? Forget about your three points and I'll tell you
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why. Lolow management killed it and Charles Barkley isn't helping it. I think
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I don't agree with you, guys. I don't disagree with you at all
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on any of this. But you know, the crazy part of this is
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that South Carolina goes undefeated, and that's a side story to Caitlin Clark.
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The fact that somebody doesn't see this where the three the four bus say,
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Caitlin Clark put it on the top of the mountain. She's there. She
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should be the face of the WNBA. And they're not doing that, Or
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if they're trying to do that, they're doing a piss poor job of it,
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that's for sure. I on TV, here's what's scary, Scott.
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Maybe that's the only network that wanted it before Caitlin Clark shows up. Now
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they're stuck with it. Well, you know what, great mind thinking like
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Leo. I'll leave it at that because that's a winner. Katy, come
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on here and do a little bit of promotion. Two more topics to get
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to. I know that Leo and Bob have other shows. We got a
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to you scat all right, Well, you know I enjoyed the dialogue going
27:48
on in the chat room between Joshua Ador and Robert Wardo. This is really
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good. So Josh, you really have to explain to Robert. Okay what
27:56
your dog checks are all about? You really do, because this guy here
27:59
is do to the program. But boy, I'll tell you he's pretty good.
28:03
Yeah, besides everybody trying to do them, Josh, I'll let you
28:06
guys figure it out them. So two topics. I want to get to
28:08
the United Football League. You were numbers surprisingly good, bo, give us
28:14
the details. Yeah, So, I mean it's it's something that I worried
28:19
that this league was going to be stunted growth wise because of when they were
28:25
blending them together. They lose half the teams, they completely you know,
28:29
alienate markets that they already had teams in, right, they made it a
28:33
regional sport by getting rid of Florida and New York, New Jersey, Seattle,
28:40
Las Vegas, all those all those areas lost their teams, and so
28:45
I was curious if people were really going to tune in. And the DC
28:48
Defenders, you know, their game this weekend had just just over one point
28:53
two million viewers. And so what it's showing you is that people are tuning
29:00
in, and the need for spring football is there. It's you know,
29:07
it's prevalent. So what it is is it's encouraging that one of these leagues
29:12
might finally work. I mean, that's really the biggest thing we're looking for
29:17
here, and they've already started talking about they may start to add teams back
29:22
in moving forward, not for not for this season obviously, but for next
29:27
year. There's a potential the year after there's still you know, there's the
29:30
same potential. So if if the viewership can stay up, then we may
29:36
actually see this thing start to grow back out of this regional sports that they
29:41
created. All right, Leo, what's your take on it? You know
29:45
what, guys, let's let's be honest here, this league was starting to
29:49
take off. The USF beout, so COVID hit. I mean Seattle has
29:55
drawn twenty twenty five thousand out there for their games and then would hit and
30:00
shut everything down. Tampa was drawing fifteen to twenty thousand. Yeah, all
30:04
of a sudden, and their idea of the kickoff was revolutionary. Look,
30:10
the NFL has even adopted it, because if you have ten kickoffs in the
30:15
NFL, nine or ten of them are not even going to be returned because
30:19
he's got kicking it out of the end zone. Now you're kick it out
30:22
of the enzon the Balkins out to the forty. That's gonna change a whole
30:26
lot of thought by special team coaches. So yeah, the NFL, they
30:30
took that right away. I would love to see this workout for the United
30:34
Football League simply because now that eight teams will become twelve next year, you'll
30:41
start to get the teams back. You'll get a Florida team, you get
30:44
back in New York, New Jersey team Seattle deserves to come back in.
30:48
Yeah, you're gonna see that happen. Pittsburgh needs to come back in.
30:52
So yeah, I think you're gonna see that happen because the smartest thing they
30:59
did is the these teams are playing in their home city. How dumb was
31:02
it last year? They're all playing and can't Ohio. Yeah, I'm gonna
31:06
support that, or you lost your mind here, guys. You got to
31:11
play where your where your name is. If I'm the you know, the
31:17
Saint Louis battle Cats or whatever they are, battle Hawks, get it right
31:22
there out the battle Hawks. Right they got a plane next to the Mississippi
31:30
River. They can't be playing it, can't, Ohio? Well they are.
31:33
Actually, they're one of the best franchises in there, and they packed
31:37
the place up. Which I'll just say this before I turn over to George.
31:40
The Saint Louis BattleHawks to me or an example that the NFL should be
31:45
back in Saint Louis. It'll be for another day. And if you can
31:48
draw well there, then you're doing well. I do want to add a
31:51
couple of things to it. So unless you have more things that you want
31:53
to hate, say there, Leo, anything you want to add to it.
31:56
No, that's enough. Hey, okay, well number one, Okay,
32:05
Saint Louis BattleHawks are a model franchise in spring. Why do you think
32:07
aj Mccaerron decided to leave Cincinnati to go back to the battle Hawks to continue
32:13
to play well, obviously know he loves the city and he wants to play,
32:16
and they put in forty thousand plus number two. Last night edition of
32:21
Inside the Picksman, we talked about Jake Bates, the Michigan Panthers kicker who's
32:27
kicked three sixty yard field goals in one year. And when you talk about
32:30
the historical significance, I don't think the NFL's had a kicker kick three in
32:37
the league. Is a kick three in a year and we got this guy.
32:39
So I'll talk about creaton start. Now. When it comes to expansion,
32:43
you better believe it's gonna happen, and it's gonna happen exponentially. And
32:46
I'm glad that they did merge. And you can't forget the fact that you
32:50
have box in ESPN working together and they have a lot of resources and good
32:54
commentators, promote the sports properly, and they're staying to ten games. The
32:59
only thing I'd like to see maybe is if you increase the amount of teams
33:01
at least maybe make it a twelve game season. On top of playoffs and
33:05
then go from there instead at ten. Other than that, I think,
33:08
is this to me has been unbelievable, George, go ahead, Well,
33:14
we do have a team in Detroit. And just to correct you, Leo,
33:16
last year there were three cities, not just Canton. Detroit was one
33:22
of them, and I believe Birmingham and Canton. There were three cities last
33:25
year. So Detroit was the home to the Michigan Panthers and the Philadelphia team.
33:31
Right that said, we are not packing the place, Okay. Fort
33:37
Field holds sixty two three thousand for Lion games. We're lucky to get ten
33:42
to twelve thousand this year. That are showing up for the Panthers. I'm
33:46
just laying it out there. They're they're not giving up on Detroit yet.
33:52
Yeah, go ahead, Leo. Is that because the line's success right now?
33:55
Because that was the loudest stadium I've ever seen bay Well, no,
34:01
I mean that's a double edged sword. Okay. Because the Lions is successful
34:06
means that a lot of a lot of people can't get tickets to the Lions.
34:12
So I think that the spillover it was hoped for would come out for
34:15
the Panthers in such a way. But that being said, don't forget the
34:21
draft. I mean that was the sole story for Detroit posting that draft,
34:24
and people put up a lot of money to have parties and to have watch
34:29
parties and to buy souvenirs and all that. So you got to give the
34:34
Panthers a pass this year only because so much has been happening with Detroit in
34:38
the NFL and the Lions. So I know I'm contradicting what I said about
34:45
ten to twelve thousand, but I think that Detroit is still going to be
34:49
a good franchise for them. But I agree with you guys and the expansion.
34:53
Yes, definitely, four more teams next year, Scott, no question
34:57
about it. And you guys Leo and Vo talked about it too. I
35:00
mean, you got to get back to New York, you got to get
35:02
to Florida, got to get into some of the major areas as well.
35:06
But no, I agree, they've did some innovative things. I think I
35:09
think the UFL is here to stay. Well let me add this though,
35:14
the First of all, the Panthers haven't helped their cause any because their first
35:17
two seasons weren't very good. Anyways, they backed into the playoffs, so
35:22
they think an under five hundred mark. And then the year before under Jeff
35:24
Fisher they were awful at what two and eight? So if they can put
35:28
together some winning seasons, we all know. Hey, listen, Detroit support
35:31
mediocre team. What do you think if they get a winner, they're going
35:35
to even go ballistic? Don't forget many years ago to the Pintake Silverdome when
35:38
the Michigan Panthers put sixty thousand people in that stadium for a playoff game at
35:44
the Silverdome way back then. So you don't give up on the Michigan Panthers
35:47
at all. And I think that with any kind of legitimate success, they're
35:52
going to be fine. All right, final topic of the night. Should
35:54
Jamals Murray have gotten more than a one hundred thousand dollars fine for throwing a
35:59
heating back at the reptor in the game? All right, Leo, go
36:01
ahead, I'll let bow Head the last word on this one. Yeah,
36:05
I think she'd get a flying because you should have started throwing something else in
36:07
the heating bad. You should just have thrown that guy a cane or a
36:10
walker, because guys, how bad is the officiating right now? In the
36:16
NBA. Here got the whistle blows and ten guys look around and going what
36:22
are they gonna calls? It's just terrible, and you can see the players
36:27
are just getting frustrated. It's basically football and BVDS, which is terrible because
36:34
they're allowing so much contact. I mean, Jalen Brunson has gotten forty points
36:39
four straight games in a row. That's because all he does is go in.
36:45
He backs in, backs in, shoulders in, fakes up and then
36:49
Booth gets contact. So yeah, they the NBA, they can't ignore it.
36:54
But one hundred grand eh, I don't know, that's the little to
36:59
see for me. Yeah, to me is a slap on the wrist.
37:01
All right, let's go to the chat room. I like some of these
37:05
chats, one of them coming from Robert Ordell boy caught the NBA they stole
37:07
the Sonics. Well, you know what, Seattle should get a team anyway
37:10
that in no matter of if it's a matter of when they're going to get
37:14
one. That was a great that was a great franchise. It's just unfortunate
37:17
that they could get their stadium situation results in a timely manner after they had
37:22
a long time. But if then when they get it again, I can
37:24
guarantee that Sonics will be one of the most premier franchise on the planet.
37:29
Joshua Door, Well, yes, Leo, you should be a permanent edition
37:31
to so wait, you're already here to begin with, not that I had
37:35
a doubt working with you on Ralph Show, but and also agree with Robert
37:38
Ordell feels the same way. See Leo, Now you got up your building
37:43
a following here. My goodness, seriously, dude, all right, you
37:45
know what po this is your topic, want as you go ahead and talk
37:50
about it. Yeah. So, so to your point, Leo, the
37:54
officiating has been wildly inconsistent. So uh, I get it, that's for
38:00
sure. Yeah, so I get the frustration for sure. But on the
38:07
other end of it, he throws his head. It doesn't actually hit him,
38:09
but then it slides onto the floor under the players that are in motion,
38:15
right, so you could legitimately hurt somebody doing this. So they give
38:17
him a hundred thousand dollars fine, which is nothing for an NBA player.
38:22
He makes that one hundred thousand in the first quarter of one game, so
38:27
that's not going to affect him in any way. Right. But here's where
38:30
here's where the argument gets interesting. Because say that doesn't hit the floor and
38:37
slide past him, say it hits him in the back, You're getting suspended,
38:40
Like there's no you're making contact with a ref. You're getting suspended for
38:45
sure. Right, that thing slides onto the floor, and rather than the
38:49
player, you know, kicking it, he steps on it. He's done
38:53
for the series. Right, You're certainly getting suspended for that. So now
38:59
all of a sudden, you're setting a weird precedent because now you're levying you
39:05
know, you you're disciplinary action on the outcome, not the intent, because
39:12
the intent was to hit the hit the ref. Right, So all of
39:15
a sudden, you're just you're creating a weird situation where you're showing that this
39:22
is actually sort of an acceptable thing to do because you're not actually doing anything
39:28
for throwing this stuff at the ref. Nothing really happened. When you know,
39:32
another player a couple of days ago through a ball at a fen that
39:36
was one hundred thousand dollars fine too, So you are you're not actually providing
39:40
any discipline for tantrums, right, So, I mean, the last thing
39:47
you need is a one hundred thousand dollars fine that these guys can pay in
39:52
their sleep. You need to do something that actually affects the team so that
39:58
from within they want these guys to kind of step in line a little bit,
40:01
because if tantrums and throwing stuff are now okay, you're going to see
40:07
some pretty ugly stuff on basketball court. Question you want to act this.
40:13
We think maybe the NBA didn't want to suspend them because the thought of Minnesota
40:17
going on instead of Denver is not what the NBA wants. Well, there's
40:22
no doubt, there's no so I mean, and here's here's kind of the
40:25
weird thing about it is if you were get if your plan was we need
40:31
all our stars because we need we need the eyes on the TVs. Right,
40:36
So then do you do you apply that suspension to next year? Right
40:42
in the regular season, nobody's watching anyway, right, right, So you
40:49
still do the fine, and then at the beginning of next season you do
40:52
a three to five game suspension for throwing stuff. Right, But for you
40:55
to just be like, hey, it's one hundred thousand dollars fine and that's
40:59
it, and these guys make that lasen their shoes up, it doesn't do
41:02
anything. All right, Well, you know what, let me go out
41:06
there and bring up a past situation that George and I are also familiar with
41:09
Laren Lague throwing at Bert Camp and Eiras. Okay, larryon League. Obviously,
41:15
I remember talking to Bert Camp and Airis about it many years ago.
41:19
Ironically in Tampa, del w opens Field, I was working for the Tampa
41:22
Trivia Bert Camp and Eiras throws a bad at him. Okay, and then
41:25
Bert Camp and Iris gets to play in the World Series, and then he
41:29
served as suspension the first week of the year. Boot care. Now,
41:31
I'm going to simplify this whole topic under one or two sentences. And by
41:37
the way, I like what Robert Wardell said, officiating is crapped to the
41:40
Vegas e fix is always in. Pretty hard to go out there and argue
41:44
against that comment. Good one. I really like that. But here's what
41:46
you got, okay, ready, and then I'll hand it over to George
41:50
and we'll rap his puffy up. Number one. Here's the difference is David
41:53
Stern would have suspended Alvin Adam Silver to me is a you know, yes
42:00
man to the players. Okay, So all you have to do. To
42:04
summarize this topic is David Sterns versus Adam Silver discussion over period. George take
42:09
it from there. Well, I'm not gonna stop at that. I'll take
42:15
it a step further. Okay, Mark Davis was the referee. Mark has
42:20
a lot of experience in the NBA. Say what you want about the officiating,
42:23
but what Michael Malone jed and the way he ran out of that court
42:28
and went face to face and jawed a jaw, And you mean to tell
42:31
me Malone doesn't get a fine for that behavior. Come on, this is
42:37
terrible, This is terrible. I agree with you, Scott. The way
42:39
Silver is running this league. There's no consistency on the calls. There's no
42:44
consistency, like you guys said both and Leo on the suspensions or the amount
42:49
of the fine. And you are absolutely spot on. Bol You're leaving your
42:52
sport susceptible now for all kinds of bad stuff happening. Okay. And I
43:00
know we saw the malice at the Palace. We were we lived through that
43:04
era here in Detroit and Aubert Hills. And I'm telling you you're spot on
43:08
because now what you're doing, you let Malone got away with that. Okay,
43:13
go and draw a job with official Come on, we all know that,
43:15
Oh you get a technical fall if you run on the court. I
43:19
don't care if there was a timeout or not that was uncalled for it.
43:22
So yeah, there's no consistency. The league has so many problems, and
43:27
one of them definitely is officiating. Scott yea and I haven't been to an
43:30
NBA game in a while. Don't regretit one bet. But here's the thing,
43:34
Okay, I want physicality and the bad boy eras and defense, not
43:37
Pandycake Petticat Baker's man. All right, Candy wants you to go ahead and
43:44
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43:46
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