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Bonus Episode: Dangerous Music, Great Rock n' Roll, and More Shocking Allegations · DISGRACELAND

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  Speaker 1: Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life,
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  Speaker 1: just to touch to get you through. Yeah me too.
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  Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome
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  Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode,
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  Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after party.
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  Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after
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  Speaker 1: the party, the bridge to get you from one full
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  Speaker 1: episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig
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  Speaker 1: into the dirt. On this bonus episode, we are talking
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  Speaker 1: about this week's subject to the Disgraceland full episode, the Cramps,
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  Speaker 1: and even more shocking Sean Combs allegations, some batshit awesome
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  Speaker 1: Halloween merchandise from Disgraceland, and of course we are diving
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  Speaker 1: into your voicemails, text and more, and as always, a
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  Speaker 1: whole lot of rosie. All Right, discoes, let's get into
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  Speaker 1: it all right. Real rock and roll is supposed to
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  Speaker 1: be dangerous, whether it's the fear of Elvis Presley's swinging
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  Speaker 1: hips that are gonna result in your teenage sister getting pregnant,
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  Speaker 1: or the grimy, dark image of the Rolling Stones. The
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  Speaker 1: anti Beatles at the time asking in newspapers and on billboards.
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  Speaker 1: If you'd let your daughter marry a rolling stone, of
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  Speaker 1: course you wouldn't. Led Zeppelin, the sex Pistols, the Ramones,
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  Speaker 1: black Flag. I can go on and on with well
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  Speaker 1: known example after example of rock stars living and behaving dangerously.
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  Speaker 1: We all know these stories. Led Zeppelin and the Mudshark,
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  Speaker 1: Sid and Nancy and the Chelsea d d Ramone and
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  Speaker 1: the Heroin. We take it all, these stories, of course,
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  Speaker 1: a little bit further here in Disgrace Land. We make
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  Speaker 1: it as as much as we can to be specifically
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  Speaker 1: about crime, true crime. Obviously, Jerry Lee Lewis marrying his
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  Speaker 1: thirteen year old cousin. It's not dangerous enough. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: we talk about the rock and roll pioneer allegedly murdering
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  Speaker 1: his wife because that happened. So you know the drill,
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  Speaker 1: You know all of this. That's why you're here. The
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  Speaker 1: true crime is a part of the danger that is
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  Speaker 1: a part of rock and roll. Okay, the danger is
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  Speaker 1: integral to rock and roll. It's the true crime is
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  Speaker 1: just an unfortunate byproduct of a necessary ingredient that makes
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  Speaker 1: rock and roll so compelling historically speaking, anyway, because right now,
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  Speaker 1: in the now, rock and roll is dead. We know
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  Speaker 1: this in part because there is no danger in today's
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  Speaker 1: rock and roll bands. If you can even find rock
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  Speaker 1: and roll bands today, I'm speaking now specifically about bands
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  Speaker 1: in the mainstream, rock and roll bands in the mainstream.
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  Speaker 1: When I say if you can even find a rock
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  Speaker 1: and roll band today, I mean in the mainstream. Know
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  Speaker 1: that there are great rock and roll bands out there
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  Speaker 1: on the club circuit, out there killing it. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: we're talking about modern culture, okay, because when we talk
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  Speaker 1: about rock and roll as a whole historically, we're talking
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  Speaker 1: about a culture shifting force, not a backbench subgenre. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: there are no rock and roll bands on the charts anymore.
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  Speaker 1: I say this a lot. I'm never gonna stop talking
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  Speaker 1: about it. I find it. I find it to be
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  Speaker 1: a very shitty reality. But the reason I'm talking about
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  Speaker 1: it right now today in this bonus episode is because
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  Speaker 1: this is what the Cramps, from this week's full episode,
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  Speaker 1: we're getting at. Okay. The Cramps talked a lot about
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  Speaker 1: the difference between rock and roll and rock. The Cramps
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  Speaker 1: were on a mission to save rock and roll, and
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  Speaker 1: they could tell back then in the seventies, eighties, and nineties,
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  Speaker 1: that rock and roll was dying. The Cramps, of course,
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  Speaker 1: like I alluded to, had a specific definition for what
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  Speaker 1: rock and roll was. Dangerous music for teenagers, Okay, dangerous
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  Speaker 1: music that separated the cool kids from the squares. By
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  Speaker 1: that definition, it's hard to think of any consequential rock
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  Speaker 1: and roll bands today that are making noise and that
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  Speaker 1: are actually dangerous. Again, I know they're out there, I
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  Speaker 1: know they're alive and well, but unfortunately they no longer matter,
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  Speaker 1: not to the scale that the artists, the rock and
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  Speaker 1: roll artists that I mentioned before, mattered when it came
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  Speaker 1: to culture. Okay, these the rock and roll bands today
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  Speaker 1: are no longer appearing on the charts and driving culture
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  Speaker 1: like Elvis was, like the Rolling Stones did, like the
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  Speaker 1: sex Pistols, the Ramones, etc. Today, Coldplay, Hosier, how to
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  Speaker 1: say that? Hosier Hosier, and Billie Eilish. These three artists
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  Speaker 1: currently occupy the number one top rock album, the number
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  Speaker 1: one rock song, and the Hot Rock the number one
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  Speaker 1: Hot Rock Alternative song chart positions on Billboard. It's hard
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  Speaker 1: to call any of these artists rock and roll by
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  Speaker 1: any traditional definition. Again, Play Hosier and Billie Eilish it's
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  Speaker 1: hard to call them rock and roll. It's even harder
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  Speaker 1: to claim that they're dangerous. They are about as safe
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  Speaker 1: as it gets. And this is how you know your
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  Speaker 1: parents likely wouldn't be annoyed or threatened if you put
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  Speaker 1: a cold Play song on when you're out for a
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  Speaker 1: riding the car with your mom, or if, like me,
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  Speaker 1: you are a parent, you're likely not going to be
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  Speaker 1: annoyed or threatened. If your kid is sitting there and
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  Speaker 1: puts on you know, Billie Eilish or Coldplayer or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: You might have a question about their taste, but whatever.
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  Speaker 1: And the reason why, of course, the reason why we
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  Speaker 1: aren't threatened or annoyed particularly is because these artists are safe.
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  Speaker 1: They're not dangerous. Okay, to the extent that any of
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  Speaker 1: these artists are even rebellious is it's contrived. It's not
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  Speaker 1: actual rebellion. Now, I'm not criticizing these artists. Whatever, do
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  Speaker 1: what you gotta do, Okay, I don't care. Make whatever
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  Speaker 1: music you want. People clearly love it. I don't, but whatever,
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  Speaker 1: it does not matter. I'm not criticizing the artists. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not criticizing the people who listen to these artists. I'm
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  Speaker 1: simply trying to make a point that the Cramps were
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  Speaker 1: right that rock and roll was dying, and now it
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  Speaker 1: is dead. And there is a massive difference between the
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  Speaker 1: rock artists on the charts today and the rock and
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  Speaker 1: roll artists on the charts from years past. But you
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  Speaker 1: know what isn't dead hip hop. It's not only the
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  Speaker 1: dominant music for us that's driving culture. It's also more
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  Speaker 1: dangerous than modern rock music in every possible way. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking about current chart topping hip hop stars too,
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  Speaker 1: not just the names from the past that we all
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  Speaker 1: know that we've talked about in Disgraceland. Okay, I'm talking
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  Speaker 1: about Young Thug. Okay, Young Thug is on trial currently
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  Speaker 1: on a criminal conspiracy beef. Another artist w N Melly,
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  Speaker 1: if I'm pronouncing that correctly, is about to be tried
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  Speaker 1: for a second time on a double murder charge. Those charges,
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  Speaker 1: criminal conspiracy and murder, they rival the true crimes from
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  Speaker 1: the rock and roll artists that we've covered here in Disgraceland.
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  Speaker 1: And yes, like I said, we've covered plenty of hip
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  Speaker 1: hop artists in the past and in the present, where
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  Speaker 1: in all cases the danger is front and center is
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  Speaker 1: very much a part of the artist's disgraceful behavior. And
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  Speaker 1: this is because, as we know when it comes to
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  Speaker 1: rock starts, when it comes to musicians, the danger is
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  Speaker 1: baked into the cake, so to speak. And part of
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  Speaker 1: the reason we love a lot of these artists is
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  Speaker 1: because they behave badly, and that behavior causes us to
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  Speaker 1: question many things, including the reasons why we sometimes support
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  Speaker 1: or supported these artists in the first place. These stories
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  Speaker 1: about Johnny Paycheck shooting a guy in a bar, about
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  Speaker 1: Easye funding his hip hop career with drug money, about
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  Speaker 1: guns and roses starting a riot. Somehow, these stories incredibly
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  Speaker 1: seems safe compared to the stories being alleged by one
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  Speaker 1: hip hop star currently, that, of course, is Sean Ditty Combs.
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  Speaker 1: New allegations were released this week against Combs, and let's
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  Speaker 1: consider for a quick second just how fucking nuts and
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  Speaker 1: outside the rails the behavior of this hip hop star
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  Speaker 1: actually is. Now, I've gone over everything in the federal
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  Speaker 1: indictment and I talked I think it was last week,
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  Speaker 1: perhaps it was the week prior about this attorney from Houston,
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  Speaker 1: Tony Busby and the one hundred plus cases complaints criminal
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  Speaker 1: complaints that he is bringing against Ditty outside of the indictment.
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  Speaker 1: Now he's released I believe six of these lawsuits this week. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so that's new. And these lawsuits are going to be
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  Speaker 1: expanded as well, and I'm not going to go through
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  Speaker 1: all of them, but I am just going to tell
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  Speaker 1: you that they are completely shocking. I'm going to read
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  Speaker 1: you one of the complaints here. I'm not going to
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  Speaker 1: read it from the indictment because it's it would honestly
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  Speaker 1: take up it would take up the entire episode. But
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  Speaker 1: I am going to read to you verbatim from a
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  Speaker 1: Business Insider. This is from October fourteenth. I'm recording this
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  Speaker 1: on October sixteenth, and I'm reading you a direct from
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  Speaker 1: the Business Insider article because I don't want to miss anything,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't want to I don't want anybody to
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  Speaker 1: claim that I'm sensationalizing anything. And I want you guys
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  Speaker 1: to know that what I'm about to read you is
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  Speaker 1: a summarized version of what is in the actual lawsuit, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: in the legal paperwork and the complaint. And by that
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's it's uh. I don't want to say
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  Speaker 1: it's cleaned up. I mean, yeah, it's cleaned up a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. It's not as shocking. Yet it's still super shocking.
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  Speaker 1: So it says here the nineteen page and again, this
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  Speaker 1: is one of six one of six lawsuits. Okay. The
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  Speaker 1: nineteen page lawsuit is one of two filed Monday that
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  Speaker 1: names an outside company as a defendant beyond the companies
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  Speaker 1: belonging to Combs. It was filed on behalf of a
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  Speaker 1: John Doe who now lives in Ohio. The plaintiff, the
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  Speaker 1: John Doe, alleges that he was orally raped by Combs
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  Speaker 1: while working in the stockroom of a flagship's store. The
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  Speaker 1: plaintiff said he worked for Echo, a rival company to
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  Speaker 1: Combs's Sean John brand that was also carried by Macy's. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so here we go. On the day of the attack,
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  Speaker 1: did he entered into the stock room with three armed bodyguards?
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  Speaker 1: This is what the lawsuit says. One or more of
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  Speaker 1: the guards struck the plaintiff, So it says here he
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  Speaker 1: may have been pistol whipped, that's what he's alleging, causing
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  Speaker 1: him to fall to his hands in knees. The plaintiff
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  Speaker 1: says in the lawsuit that one or more of the
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  Speaker 1: bodyguards threatened to kill him. So let's just take a second. Here,
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  Speaker 1: let's move beyond the Business Insider article, here, beyond the
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  Speaker 1: legal documentation, and let's try to put ourselves in the moment.
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  Speaker 1: You're a dude working in a stock room. You're just
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  Speaker 1: having your fucking day. Man. You know, and I've worked
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  Speaker 1: in stock rooms before, when I was younger. I've worked
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  Speaker 1: in factories. I I know what it's like. You're off
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  Speaker 1: in your own your own head. You might have headphones on,
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  Speaker 1: you're chilling, you're thinking about lunch, that sandwich you packed,
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  Speaker 1: You're getting ready to go, take a load off for
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  Speaker 1: about forty five minutes before you jump back into your day.
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  Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, one of the biggest hip
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  Speaker 1: hop stars on the fucking planet walks in with three bodyguards.
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  Speaker 1: Pistol whips you. Pistol whips you at work, and, as
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  Speaker 1: far as I can tell, for no reason. And then
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  Speaker 1: and then the plaintiff claims the Combs demands he blows them,
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  Speaker 1: performs oral sex. The plaintiff goes on to say that
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  Speaker 1: Diddy was calling him Echo because that's the brand he
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  Speaker 1: worked for. That's that's who he was stalking the shells for. Again,
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  Speaker 1: you're sitting there, Sean Combs walks in with three security guards,
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  Speaker 1: pistol whips you, is calling you echo the name of
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  Speaker 1: the company you work for, demands that you give him
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  Speaker 1: head and then orally rapes you, or so you claim,
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  Speaker 1: all while you're just waiting to fucking go on your
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  Speaker 1: lunch break. Then, and this is the shit that gets me,
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  Speaker 1: the specificity, the details in these lawsuits, in these legal documents. Then,
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  Speaker 1: the lawsuit alleges that after the assault, Combs grabbed armfuls
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  Speaker 1: of Sean John merchandise from the stock room, went out
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  Speaker 1: onto the retail floor and began passing out merchandise to
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  Speaker 1: an adoring crowd as if nothing had happened. The plaintiff
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  Speaker 1: reported in the same day to company security, but there
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  Speaker 1: was no follow up and he was soon barred from
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  Speaker 1: the store, the lawsuit alleges, and it should be mentioned
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  Speaker 1: that Diddy, through his lawyers, has denied that this or
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  Speaker 1: any of the other allegations I mentioned in passing so
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  Speaker 1: far have actually happened. Okay did He's claiming that he's innocent,
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  Speaker 1: and the same thing that he said about the federal charges,
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  Speaker 1: the same thing he's saying about these churches. Now, you
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  Speaker 1: may say, Jake, you mentioned that the diddy stuff is shocking,
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  Speaker 1: perhaps more shocking than anything that you've covered in disgrace Land.
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  Speaker 1: But really, Jake, it's just it's just some rape. It's
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  Speaker 1: just some pre lunch break rape, you know, getting a
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  Speaker 1: little rapie before the lunch truck pulls up to the
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  Speaker 1: to the Macy's loading dock. The details, again, the details
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  Speaker 1: and the sheer horror of this action are as bad,
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  Speaker 1: or sorry, worse than almost anything that I've that I've
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  Speaker 1: covered so far. And and then when you start to
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  Speaker 1: get into some of these other allegations that have come
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  Speaker 1: out over the last few weeks that are outside of
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  Speaker 1: the federal indictment that the now famous one thousand or
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  Speaker 1: ten thousand whatever it was bottles of lubricant sexual lubricant
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  Speaker 1: that were seized, and the allegations that that lubricant, that
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  Speaker 1: that lubricant was dosed with drugs that tranquilize you so
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  Speaker 1: that they can use it to massage women and get
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  Speaker 1: them to pass out and then abuse them sexually. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I can't even I can't even wrap my brain around this.
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  Speaker 1: And as if the actions weren't bad enough, as if
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  Speaker 1: the crimes and the allegations themselves are not horrifying enough.
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  Speaker 1: They are particularly horrifying when you take into account that
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  Speaker 1: these claims go back I think almost thirty years, three
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  Speaker 1: decades of this behavior. So when I look at it
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  Speaker 1: like that, yeah, it is way worse than anything that
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  Speaker 1: I've covered. Okay, all of this goes way beyond anything
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  Speaker 1: that we've spoken about here, and disgrace saying, yes, even
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  Speaker 1: the Big Larch cannibalism episode that was one incident a
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  Speaker 1: psychotic reaction to a drug. This, this Ditty stuff is
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  Speaker 1: a sickening criminal conspiracy allegedly spanning years, decades, and beyond
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  Speaker 1: the federal indictment, there are, of course, these separate lawsuits
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  Speaker 1: that I've been talking about where the behavior described in
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  Speaker 1: these suits involves the criminal conspiracy, the sex trafficking, drugging
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  Speaker 1: underaged men and women to forced sex upon them unknowingly,
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  Speaker 1: and now even now even the threat of murder. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not going to go into the other lawsuits of these
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  Speaker 1: new six, but there's there's one where Ditty threatens one
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  Speaker 1: of his victims with murder if if they say anything. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: And of course, again Sean Combs denies this, saying through
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  Speaker 1: his attorneys on Monday that the lawsuits filed here that
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  Speaker 1: I'm speaking about were done so to quote unquote Garner Publicity.
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  Speaker 1: And they further say, mister Combs and his legal team
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  Speaker 1: have full confidence in the facts, their legal defenses, and
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  Speaker 1: the integrity of the judicial process. The lawyer said in court.
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  Speaker 1: They go on to say in court the truth will prevail.
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  Speaker 1: The mister Combs has never sexually assaulted anyone adult or minor,
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  Speaker 1: man or woman unquote. So there you have it. However,
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  Speaker 1: if even a portion, if even a portion of this
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  Speaker 1: is true, then this story is as dangerous as it gets.
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  Speaker 1: This artist is as dangerous as they come. Part of
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  Speaker 1: me doesn't know what to do with all this, you know,
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  Speaker 1: It's like it's I keep saying this, it's the biggest
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  Speaker 1: music and true crime story of all time, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: the music and true crime is what we do. Yet
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  Speaker 1: I'm confused as to how to how to deal with
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  Speaker 1: all this. It's there's so much of it that is
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  Speaker 1: so shocking that at a certain point it's not shocking,
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  Speaker 1: and it makes it seem like what I've been doing
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  Speaker 1: is is child's play. Suddenly telling the story of Jerry
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  Speaker 1: Lewis getting away with murdering his wife feels cute compared
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  Speaker 1: to thirty years of this alleged Diddy behavior. It's so much.
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  Speaker 1: And again, we get the headlines, we get the memes,
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  Speaker 1: the notifications, were becoming desensitized to the whole thing almost,
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  Speaker 1: or at least I am, because I'm deep in it.
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  Speaker 1: But the details in the ditty criminal complaints, they're more
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  Speaker 1: shocking in a lot of ways, again, like I said,
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  Speaker 1: than anything that I've seen in my research for Disgraceland
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  Speaker 1: thus far. And then, of course, where this goes? Man, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: as I've been saying, this is a question of where
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  Speaker 1: does all this go? And who else was involved beyond Diddy.
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  Speaker 1: Now Tony Busby, who filed those lawsuits this week, who
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  Speaker 1: has the one hundred plus lawsuits that he's going to file,
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  Speaker 1: is doubling down on his claim that there will be
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  Speaker 1: names soon that will shock us. We will see and
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  Speaker 1: just you know, for an update, you know, he has
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  Speaker 1: reached out to those big names, to those people that
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  Speaker 1: he has evidence against in these criminal lawsuits who are
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  Speaker 1: involved with Diddy, and he's essentially shopping settlements. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to pass judgment on the people making these claims.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna pass judgment on Tony Busby. Not
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  Speaker 1: all criminal attorneys are the stereotype. But I'm just giving
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  Speaker 1: you this information so you know, I think there's a
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  Speaker 1: slim chance. Then in the final analysis, we sit back
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  Speaker 1: and go, this was a money grab and Diddy was
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  Speaker 1: innocent and he walks away. I think that is a
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  Speaker 1: very there is a very slim chance of that happening.
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  Speaker 1: At the same time, are we going to see culture
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  Speaker 1: imploding evidence that is going to tear down some of
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  Speaker 1: the biggest A list celebrities on the planet. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think it's going to go that far either. I think
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  Speaker 1: it'll be somewhere in the middle, perhaps closer to that
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: last scenario that I just mentioned. I want to update
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  Speaker 1: you guys a little bit here on jay Z and Beyonce.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was in last week's episode I was
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  Speaker 1: speaking critically of jay Z and how he hasn't really
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  Speaker 1: defended himself on anything like that. Well, we have we
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  Speaker 1: have new news on that. Piers Morgan the Journalists had
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  Speaker 1: Jaguar Wright on his show. I've told you guys, who
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  Speaker 1: Jaguar Right is. Jaguar Right went off kind of on
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  Speaker 1: jay Z in Beyonce with these wild allegations that she's
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  Speaker 1: been making on TikTok that are I just I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to refrain from repeating them here, but they
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  Speaker 1: are connected to Diddy. Of course, jay Z and Beyonce,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: their attorney promptly went after Piers Morgan. Piers Morgan had
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: to issue an apology, so that says something. And apparently
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: jay Z and Beyonce have been issuing cease and desist
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: letters to content creators on TikTok who are repeating some
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: of the allegations that Jaguar Right is repeating. So I
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: just wanted to update you there because I made a
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: point of mentioning how they they hadn't really jay Z
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: and Beyonce hadn't really said anything. I do want to
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: also mention that there's still you know, even though jay
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Z and Beyonce have spoken up here through their attorney
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: at least or through their attorney's actions, I should say
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: they've acted through their attorney, not spoken up. I do
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: want to say that it's still kind of crickets from
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: the entertainment industry on the Diddy allegations. So that's telling
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: I believe, So the Diddy allegations. My larger point beyond dangerous. Okay,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: they are legitimately scary. They're monstrous. So here's a question.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Would you leave your kid alone with the guys in
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Coldplay while you went off for a pack of smokes?
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Maybe?
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Probably okay? But would you leave your kid alone with
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Sean Combs Apps fusolutely not. If these allegations are true,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Shawn Combs has taken the danger of rock and roll,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: the danger of hip hop, obviously way over the frigging line,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: to a point where, like I said, even I am shocked,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: which is very hard to do. But still, Sean Combs
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: is not a rock and roll star. He's a hip
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: hop mogul, and rock and roll is dead despite the
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Cramp's best intentions, and Shawn Combs he's in jail attempting
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: for a third time to get out on bail before
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: his trial begins on May fifth, twenty twenty five, but
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: the judge might just rule that he's too dangerous to
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: be let out. We shall see if these allegations turn
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: out to be true, than Shawn Combs is, like I said,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: truly a monster, scarier in more dangerous guys and anything
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Halloween can serve up than anything in a Cramp song.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Scarier and more dangerous than any horror movie. And speaking
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: of which, next week's full episode in Your Disgrace Slam
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Feed is on the film Poltergeist and the curse connected
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: to that movie. This movie scared the hell out of
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: me when I was a little kid. I don't find
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: it to be as scary now, and I showed it.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: We showed it last year to my oldest son. I
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: don't think we let our youngest watch it, and he
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: was scared. He was super scared. There's something about polder guys,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: where I don't know, like this sort of like just
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: before puberty years, you know, ten eleven. I don't remember
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: how old I was when I saw it, but it
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: was the perfect age for me to be freaked out
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: by it. So when you're listening to this next episode,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: next episode in the Disgraceland feed on Poldier, guys, I
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: want you guys to be thinking about what movies scared
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: the hell out of you when you were a kid. Okay,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: that's going to be the question of the week next week.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a quick break. I'll be back in
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: the flash with your voicemails, text, dms and more. All Right,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: we are back. Thanks guys for listening to this bonus
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: episode of Disgraceland. I want to update you guys on
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: the live stream that we had planned for last week
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: October ninth. We were, of course postponed due to Hurricane Milton,
• 23:01
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• 23:05
  Speaker 1: tornadoes we weren't planning on anyways, We are working on
• 23:09
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• 23:11
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• 23:14
  Speaker 1: you'll hear that here in the upcoming bonus episodes, upcoming
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: after party episodes. Also want to let you guys know
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: we are fully ensconced in the Halloween season right now
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: in Disgrace and you can tell from our programming We're
• 23:27
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• 23:30
  Speaker 1: hope you're loving it as well. We just released our
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: episode on the Cramps. We put back into the feed
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: one of the archive episodes on Black Sabbath. We did
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: some auzy stuff. But back to the Cramps and Black Sabbath.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: We have these two new merch items that I'm really
• 23:45
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• 23:48
  Speaker 1: a Masters of Reality, Black Sabbath design for Rock Rolla,
• 23:52
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• 23:55
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• 23:58
  Speaker 1: we've got for you guys. We did in collaboration with
• 24:01
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• 24:06
  Speaker 1: these two new shirts that we have, they're gonna be
• 24:07
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• 24:10
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• 24:13
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• 24:15
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• 24:20
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• 24:23
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• 24:26
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• 24:28
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• 24:32
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• 24:34
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• 24:36
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• 24:40
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• 24:42
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• 24:44
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• 24:46
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• 24:50
  Speaker 1: I have to hold myself back from buying them for
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: my family all over the place, but I'm not going
• 24:54
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• 24:56
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• 25:00
  Speaker 1: You're gonna love it all right enough for me. Let's
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: hear from you, guys six one seven nine oh six
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: sixty six three aid to send me a text or
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: voicemail just like this caller from the six to one
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: nine on the question of the greatest rock and roll
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: band of all time.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: Hey, Jake, this is Jesse from the six one nine.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: I'm just gonna keep it simple and brief man. For me,
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: it's clean. I'm forty seven. I can think back to
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: the very first songs that I ever heard from them,
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: and here it is, all these years later, especially with
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: the resurgence from Bohemian Rhapsody back with Wayne's World. Thank
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: God for that. They're just transcendent in everything. I mean,
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: you've got, you got some slow rock, you got some
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: fast rock. You just got popped through them too. But
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: they're still one of the best, if not the best
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: rock and roll bands ever. Just my opinion from a
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: young man from San Diego, California.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Jesse, thanks for the voicemail, my friend. I
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: appreciate you. My wife will appreciate your message even more
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: though she is a massive Queen fan, which reminds me.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, we used to have a framed version of
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: the bicycle race poster. If you're Queen fan, you'll know
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: that came inside of the Jazz album. It's an incredible photograph,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: credible poster. It's a bunch of well, fat bottomed girls
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: on bicycles and uh, it's great. And now I'm wondering,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: where the hell where is that? I have that somewhere.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of gonna find it. I want to put
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: it back up. All right, let's check in with the
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: five to four to Roho on the same question.
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: All right, so you want to know what the greatest
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: rock and roll band of all time? Okay, So if
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: we're gonna for any user crash he already you set up.
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to say Motorheads only because it was
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: vastly popular, but not commercially popular, kind of like you know,
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: there were mines of cramps so forth, but it had
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: such a wide base of fans, and they were all kids.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: Most kids who did they identified with the insane rock
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: well rock and roll actually, but yeah, So I'm going
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: to go ahead and say it was Motorhead to make
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: great rock and roll band. I mean even Lendy says
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: it himself and concert he says, we are Motorhead, we
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: play rock and roll. So there you go, all right, droll,
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: I agree with you. Take five four roh, Motorhead. Great answer, Motorhead.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: You know, I talk a lot in the in the
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: in the previous block about how when we're framing this
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: question of great rock and roll bands, I like to
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: lean into these bands that are pushing the culture. And
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: even though Motorhead was subculture, they were pushing the culture.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Motorhead was a presence in the nineteen eighties, and every
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: high school in America you could you could find that
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: that iconic Motorhead logo on a jean jacket of a
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: gearhead somewhere in America on any given day, and I
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: would argue pretty much any high school in the United States.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: So Motorhead were definitely counterculture, but they were pushing the cultures.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: So I love your take here. All right, let's check
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: out the eight six four.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: What's happening, Jake?
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: This is Will in age sixty four. First off, I
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: just want to say, I hope you all being safe
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: from Florida. We just got through Helene in South Carolina
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: and it was wild. We were without power from of
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: the week. My homies in Ashville of really going through it.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: I hope you're really being safe down there. A couple
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: of things we connected on teaching through Instagram. Fucking love that.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: I want to say, maybe you should look into Vince Giraldi,
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: that was famous for doing the Charlie Brown music. As
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: much as I put him on.
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: The map, he I'm pretty sure he had some back
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: and forth with the people.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Doing the cartoon and he wasn't too happy, especially with
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: the vocalized version of Christmas times here even like those
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: little brass and there with him.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: But to go on, people that die too young.
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: I'm still going over your entire catalog of the episodes.
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: But dude, Jeff Buckley, like, what a fucking tragedy man,
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: what a talent that we really didn't get to see
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: fully blossomed.
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: The way he went out was disgraceful and just upsetting.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: It sad, but I mean, I always thought, you know,
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: as much as everybody was very you know, very taken
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: with what he did. You know, there was a couple
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: of snakes in the grass, you know, really just out
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: for their own trying to push this too. But Jeff
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Buckley as like one of the best albums, and it
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: happen to be one of his only so like, I
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: thought that was a really cool one. I still think
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: they need to do an episode of Tim Armstrong given
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: his crazy.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: History with Ivy and Rancid.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: But dude, just want to say, I appreciate what you do.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Keep fucking doing it, man. We love it, man, we
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: love it. Be safe down here in Florida. Much love.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Eight six four. Thanks for the call. I hope you
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: guys are doing okay post Helene. Love that you're digging
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: on the Keith Jarrett, I remember, I remember our DM exchange.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Vince GERALDI I'm definitely familiar with, not just because of
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Charlie Brown and the Peanuts, although that was if I'm
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: being honest, that was what hit me to. Vince has
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: a great album that you probably know of, called Black Orpheus.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: If anyone is interested, check that out by Vince Giraldi.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: It's j Vince Gerraldi is a hip fucking dude man
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: jazz guy. I think even hung out with the dead
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: early in the early years. I could be wrong about that.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: I know he died young, but I think there was
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: some San Francisco connection there. A six four I I
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: did not know about his beef over the vocalized version
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: of Christmas Time is here. I love that. I love
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: knowing that that I find out to be very interesting
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: because although he apparently was beefing with it, I think
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: that that the version of that song on the from
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: a Charlie Brown Christmas or whatever it's called, is incredible
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: and I love it. And oh, Jeff Buckley, Yes, great answer, great, great,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: great answer, And we have a Jeff Buckley episode. I
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: don't know if you've heard it or not. I'll drop
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: the number and the date later here in the Bone
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: episode so that you can find it in the archive.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: All right, Ted from Texas called in, Yeah, and he
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: had to take kind of controversial take. I'm not gonna
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: mention I'm not going to play the voicemail from Ted,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: but Ted, I want to address your voicemail even though
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: I don't want to play because I don't want to give.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: I don't want to give too much time to this theory,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: the theory, your theory. You mentioned that someone else had
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: mentioned on a podcast that Diddy was responsible for killing Tupac,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: and I don't but I can't go there. If that
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: comes out in this whole Diddy debacle, I'll be shocked.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: I will really be shocked. I think we will truly
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: be entering into uncharted territory there, very uncharted, chilling territory there.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: And I go back and forth in my thinking historically
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: on who I think killed Tupac and who I think
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: killed Biggie and all to say, I just I just
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: don't know. I have I have had strong opinions at times.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: I no longer have those strong opinions. But I can
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: also say confidently that I do not believe that that
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Sean Combs killed Tupac Shakure. I just because it was relevant,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: I wanted to address it here. All right, Let's do
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: some texts and DMS five one to erho texts in
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: best rock and Roll band of All Time? Rolling Stones,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: it's Keith. He's a lifelong student and fanboy of American music,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: and he did it better than any American rocker. Exit
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: on Main Street is the press play album The Stooges
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: and MC five popped into my head too, you know, yeah, yeah,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: I hate that the best rock and roll band of
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: all time is an English band. I just do because
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: rock and roll to me is an American art form
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: and we gave it to the world. But the Stones
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: gave it back to us better than anyone else did,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: at least for a minute. There good solid four or
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: five year run, maybe a little longer. I don't know.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: I have mapped it out in my head. I actually
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: I have, I just can't remember. I'm pretty sure I
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: mapped it out in my Exit on Main Street episode
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: on the Rolling Stones. But you know, and I guess
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: if I'm going number two for greatest rock and roll
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: band of all time, I would go led Zeppelin, another
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: English band. Maybe the Beatles are up there too. God,
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: I hate that it's not an American band. Who are
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: the great American rock and roll bands? That's a question.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Who are they? Grateful dead but still by the Cramps
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: definition of rock and roll, Nah, not even close. Though
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: the Dead were dangerous, they truly were. You know, I've
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: talked about that too. Okay, you really this is a
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: great text, you really got me going here five one
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: to oh, oh see what I did there? The Kinks
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: though again English, you really got me. But then van
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Halen maybe van Halen, I don't know. Six or four
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: to one, writes in Since your latest question is about
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: best rock and roll bands, I'm going to say in
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: history the answer is led Zeppelin, and times the answer
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: is low cut Connie, Great Tech six four to one,
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: and I think I agree with you. I just mentioned
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: led Zeppelin, and I definitely agree with you when it
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: comes to low kut Connie and break a little news
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: here sixty four to one. I'm gonna have Adam on
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: the show next week on the bonus episode. As a
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: little addendum at the end is a little interview talk
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: about low Kuk Connie's movie, Adam's movie that he is out.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: So there you go. Anyone knows who low kak Connie is,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: You're welcome in advance. Anyone who doesn't go find low
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Kuk Connie and again you're welcome. You will love them.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Amazing rock and roll band. Five three zero Rights in
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: the Cramps. Yes, one of the best episodes ever. Well,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: thank you very much. Five three oh, I appreciate that.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Eight four or five rights saying, Hey, I hope I'm
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: not reaching you at a bad time, so polite. Eight
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: four or five you're definitely not from Massachusetts. Eight four
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: or five says, my name is Luke and I'm a disco.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: I was listening to your after party episode from September
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: twenty six. I believe I was hoping to reach you
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: in order to ask would it be possible for me
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: to still sign up for the upcoming book club. It
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: is on the Exorcist right, Yes, it is Luke, and
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: I was supposed to put this information out on how
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: to sign up. You can sign up if you're an
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: All Access member, but we don't need to be an
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: All Access member. Anyone can join, and I gotta get
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: that information out. I'll have more information next week, and
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: I in here in the bonus episode, and then of
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: course in the socials that's on the twenty ninth. I believe. Okay,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: So Luke, thank you. I gonna make a note nine
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: oh four text in. It's Spencer text in more about
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: the greatest rock and roll band. A lot of Keith,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: a lot of Rolling Stones. I mean, Keith is the
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: avatar for a rock and roll star. Spencer's talking about
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Exit on Main Street, A five six rights in rock
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: and roll question from the after party. I hope I'm
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: not too late. Zz top Rio Grand Mud is badass.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: I came to it way too late. ACDC. It's all
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: straightforward rock and roll, but as a teenager, it was
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: led Zeppelin for me. Lots of Dare I say consensus
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: here on the greatest rock and roll band of all time?
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Lots of led Zeppelin, lots of Rolling Stone ones, ac
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: DC pulling up the rear a bit in the third,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: you know, I would go ACDC. I think Bond Scott
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: is probably the greatest rock and roll front man of
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: all time in my estimation, but Brian Johnson is not.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: I like Brian Johnson a lot. I love him actually,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: but he's no Bond Scott. And just there's you know,
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: I can't I can't go there with ac DC because
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