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Ripple, Episode 8 (Netflix) · Girls Gone Hallmark | Hallmark Movie Reviews

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  Speaker 1: This is a bramble Jam podcast. Welcome to Girls Gone Hallmark,
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  Speaker 1: a Hallmark review podcast. I'm Megan and I'm a longtime
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  Speaker 1: Hallmark fan.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Wendy, I'm a former Hallmark hater.
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  Speaker 1: Before we jump into today's episode, we wanted to take
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  Speaker 1: a moment to acknowledge what's happening in Minneapolis. The recent
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  Speaker 1: shootings by federal agents during immigration operations, including the deaths
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  Speaker 1: of both Renee Good and Alex Pretty, are tragic and unacceptable.
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  Speaker 1: calling for accountability, transparency, and an end to this violence.
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  Speaker 1: We know that these are heavy times and we're very
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  Speaker 1: great to have you here, and our goal is to
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  Speaker 1: offer you some lightness in the form of escapist podcast
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  Speaker 1: movie reviews. On today's episode, we are discussing the season
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  Speaker 1: one finale of Ripple The Bonus. All episodes of Ripple
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  Speaker 1: are currently available to stream on Netflix. Join us over
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  Speaker 2: and then hopefully you'll.
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  Speaker 1: Decide to stay. This week's episode over on patren is
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  Speaker 1: our approved episode, where we talk about items we're currently
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  Speaker 1: using and loving. None of that is sponsored. But my
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  Speaker 1: favorite part about Approved episodes is we also deep dive
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  Speaker 1: into what is in our TikTok shop carts and the
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  Speaker 1: things that are currently influencing us, which is always a
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  Speaker 1: good time. I love that episode, and in our next
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  Speaker 1: approved episode next month, I'm going to have my very
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  Speaker 1: first TikTok shop order reviews. Ooh, I'm three items deep now.
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  Speaker 1: The floodgates had been opened. The slippery slope.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't it?
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  Speaker 1: It really is? I know.
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  Speaker 2: I just click, click and and and usually arrives pretty quickly.
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  Speaker 1: The in app shopping experience really was revelatory on the
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  Speaker 1: behalf of the Overlords over at TikTok.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, before I share the synopsis, I have a question,
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  Speaker 2: are you are you glad that we are finally finishing
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  Speaker 2: this series?
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  Speaker 1: Oh? Glad? Like, I'm not glad it's over? Are you
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  Speaker 1: glad it's over?
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  Speaker 2: No? I enjoyed it so much. Before I'll jump in,
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  Speaker 2: I was having dinner with my parents over the weekend
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  Speaker 2: and we were talking about shows we were watching. It
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  Speaker 2: was our very own pop culture club at dinner. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's a Patreon episode. Yeah, And we talked about Ripple
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  Speaker 2: and my stepmom was like, yeah, I enjoyed it. It
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  Speaker 2: was very hallmarky and I was like, yeah, it was
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  Speaker 2: made for Hallmark originally, you know. And she's like, and
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  Speaker 2: it was so curious that that comment has has like
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  Speaker 2: stayed with me because my takeaway from the show is
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  Speaker 2: it was very not hallmarky and much deeper and thoughtful
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  Speaker 2: and resonating to me as a viewer, very heavy at times.
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  Speaker 2: So my whole point is I am kind of glad
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  Speaker 2: to see this season end because I just don't know
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  Speaker 2: how much more I could.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I see, Yeah, you needed a break. Yeah, it was.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it was heavy. Like you, I don't find
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  Speaker 1: it to be particularly Hallmarky because we're so deeply immersed
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  Speaker 1: in the Hallmark world, but I think maybe compared to
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  Speaker 1: the vast majority of the other content, it maybe skews
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  Speaker 1: more Hallmark than say, HBO Max. Yeah, you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: it's It is kind of a tough watch though, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's heavy. I have a lot of thoughts about this
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  Speaker 1: episode and where we ended the season though, me too.
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  Speaker 2: I was just thinking, I'm like, I would love like
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  Speaker 2: a whiteboard and to draw like a ven diagram of
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  Speaker 2: like here's how it's Hallmark and here's how it's nice.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I need a whole like.
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  Speaker 2: Dissertation on the series. Anyway, Let's get into episode eight,
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  Speaker 2: The Bonus with a synopsis.
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  Speaker 1: Here it goes.
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  Speaker 2: As the festive season gets underway, the Bars regulars reflect
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  Speaker 2: on their journeys and the strings of fate that drew
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  Speaker 2: them all together.
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  Speaker 1: Our final news and notes for this Ripple season. This
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  Speaker 1: episode is directed by Lisa Soper. She has eight directing
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  Speaker 1: credits total, and also directed last week's episode seven. Her
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  Speaker 1: past work includes shows like Riverdale and pretty Little Liar's
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  Speaker 1: Original Sin for our Hallmark listener as a quick reminder
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  Speaker 1: that she's behind the upcoming True Justice movies True Justice two,
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  Speaker 1: I for an Eye and True Justice three.
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  Speaker 2: Lost Love Hallmark side note, where are those movies? They
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  Speaker 2: haven't been announced yet, right for the schedule, They.
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  Speaker 1: Have not been announced. Of course, we talked about this
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  Speaker 1: last week. The rumor is they're coming to Hallmark Plus,
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  Speaker 1: but that is fully unsubstantiated. Well, the first Hallmark Mystery
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  Speaker 1: of the year was announced, though. Did you see that?
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  Speaker 2: I did see that. It's a Nelly Nose Mysteries. Oh
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  Speaker 2: that's right, what's you I'm excited about because I enjoyed
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  Speaker 2: the first one and was slightly different than than the
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  Speaker 2: other mysteries.
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  Speaker 1: I'll be honest, no memory of it, really none.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I don't remember the details, but I remember
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  Speaker 2: the cast.
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  Speaker 1: I remember the cast too, but Kevin Smith and Pascalhaddan great.
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  Speaker 1: I might need to watch the first one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, honestly, I would prefer a third Cases
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  Speaker 2: of Mystery Lane over O me two Nelly Knows Mysteries.
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  Speaker 2: But that's me, that is me.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: Back to Ripple episode. It was written by Michelle G.
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  Speaker 1: And USA.
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  Speaker 2: Michelle is the creator of this show and has worked
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  Speaker 2: I was looking at IMDb because I know other episodes
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  Speaker 2: were written by other people, but on IMDb she is
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  Speaker 2: credited for with all eight episodes. I don't really understand
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  Speaker 2: the details of writing credits when it comes to episodes
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  Speaker 2: in a series.
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  Speaker 1: Sure me either. I was hoping you can share some clarity.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it's the same everywhere. Right, she has
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  Speaker 1: a team of writers, but perhaps does the bulk of
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  Speaker 1: the right and therefore earns the writing credit. But there
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  Speaker 1: is a writing staff who contributes. Yeah. I think if
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  Speaker 1: you think of shows like what's the show that Elizabeth
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  Speaker 1: Lamee wrote on a million little things like she had
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  Speaker 1: a writing credit, and so I think sometimes they'll be like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: this is your script. You write the script, and then
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  Speaker 1: the writer's room will kind of come together and polish it.
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  Speaker 2: Got it.
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  Speaker 1: I just think it's probably different on every show. That's
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  Speaker 1: all I know. Someone school us drop into our email. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: it's Hello at Girls Gonehollmark dot com. We got a
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  Speaker 1: working on transitioning over.
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  Speaker 2: Because I don't honestly don't even know how to access it.
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  Speaker 2: address is hello at Girls Gonehollmark.
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  Speaker 1: Dot com, the only one that people need at the moment. Yes, okay,
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  Speaker 1: co coo cool. Our regular cast is all back this week.
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  Speaker 1: We do get a few additional appearances, including Jake Epstein
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  Speaker 1: as Jack and Phil Lucy as Victor. Let's take a
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  Speaker 1: quick break and come right back with our first impressions. Hey, Wendy,
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  Speaker 1: what's your first impression of the season finale of Ripple?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, Jake Epstein walks in and my Hallmark
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  Speaker 2: brain goes, oh, I know you such a pleasant surprise.
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  Speaker 2: Peter Benson, Yeah, exactly. It was the Peter Benson phenomenon, totally. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: My first impression is I'm going to need a campaign
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  Speaker 1: to renew season two of Ripple or right now?
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  Speaker 2: How should we do with that?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, but I genuinely think we should launch it.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe we should.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I would love to, I would love a
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  Speaker 2: season two. I'm just like, my brain is just processing, okay, oh,
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  Speaker 2: how should we make this happen?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Okay, I have some thoughts, but stay tuned, folks.
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  Speaker 1: You should be following us on Instagram. Hey, yeah, what
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  Speaker 1: did you like about this episode?
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  Speaker 2: Coming into the finale episode, I said it last week,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, I hope it's forward progress on
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  Speaker 2: healing and hope, and I think we got that, so
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  Speaker 2: I was pleased with that. I also was happy it
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  Speaker 2: wasn't like this big plot swing, you know, like it
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  Speaker 2: wasn't a huge cliffhanger. If this is where it ends,
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  Speaker 2: I can be satisfied with that.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it left a lot of it. I'll talk
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  Speaker 2: about it in my wishes, the stuff I wish that
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  Speaker 2: they had closed the loop on. But I think if
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  Speaker 2: this is all we get, I can reflect back on
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  Speaker 2: it and be like, that was a great one season show.
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  Speaker 1: I agree with you, it was a great one season show.
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  Speaker 1: I liked the tone of this episode. Like you said,
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad this was not last week's episode. Nobody wanted
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  Speaker 1: to end like that. I do think that the tone
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  Speaker 1: of the final episode is very hopeful. We talked last
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  Speaker 1: week about how that is their goal for this show
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  Speaker 1: to kind of be a little light in the world,
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  Speaker 1: and these people are for each other, which I love. Again.
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  Speaker 1: I do have plenty of wishes, but one thing in
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  Speaker 1: particular I liked to kick off this list. I liked
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  Speaker 1: this first full circle moment we get with Ellis. They
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  Speaker 1: are choosing to love themselves. I love that moment where
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  Speaker 1: they're in that shop and they connect with that dude
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  Speaker 1: and they're like cool camera and he's like yeah, from
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  Speaker 1: me to me. And then of course that comes full
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  Speaker 1: circle with Ellis buying themselves a camera with their Christmas bonus,
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  Speaker 1: which brings us all the way back to the first
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  Speaker 1: episode where Ellis's friend and fellow Artis basically sells out
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  Speaker 1: to the man, takes an l and is like, I'm
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  Speaker 1: going corporate, and Ellis is still hanging on to this
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  Speaker 1: hope of making it as an artist. And then of
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  Speaker 1: course we get a glimpse that that's a potential in
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  Speaker 1: their future when they meet Victor. And I appreciated that
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  Speaker 1: we don't know a lot about Ellis when the show starts,
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  Speaker 1: and Ellis has really served as a supporting character throughout
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  Speaker 1: this season, and so to see them and in that
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  Speaker 1: hopeful way and not just in a I stuck around
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  Speaker 1: for Nate and that paid off was nice.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. You know what's funny is in my eyes, Ellis
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  Speaker 2: is one of the main characters of this show. And
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  Speaker 2: I know they aren't promoted as such, but I really
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  Speaker 2: enjoyed the character of Ellis and their storyline and it
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  Speaker 2: talk about closed loop and covered a lot of territory
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  Speaker 2: in one season just on their storyline alone, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like a reconnecting with a romantic person and then that
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  Speaker 2: kind of ending, and I loved I gotta tell you,
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  Speaker 2: I love that scene between Ellis and the patron Victor,
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  Speaker 2: just the whole conversation they have that monologue basically about
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  Speaker 2: like love and loved ending and what do you learn
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  Speaker 2: from it? I thought that was really good and I
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  Speaker 2: was just so happy that this Victor guy's like, oh, hey,
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  Speaker 2: I'm working on this project. I love these photos. Are
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  Speaker 2: you interested?
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  Speaker 1: Like yay?
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  Speaker 2: It was like a total win for Ellis.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like you're proud of them. Yeah yeah, and a.
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  Speaker 2: Win after a hard season of their lives, you know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I love that Nate and.
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  Speaker 2: Chris reconnect and you can clearly see Chris misses him,
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  Speaker 2: Nate's excited to see her at this holiday party. The
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  Speaker 2: party ends, they have this moment Chris is like, I'm
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  Speaker 2: all in, I'm here for you. I want to do
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  Speaker 2: this with you, and I am heartbroken when Nate wants
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  Speaker 2: to put things on pause. I get it, I absolutely
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  Speaker 2: get it. And this is fully side note and maybe
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  Speaker 2: my own baggage that I'm projecting onto this storyline, but
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  Speaker 2: as someone who personally has.
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  Speaker 1: Dealt with.
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  Speaker 2: A potential life ending illness and when you deal with
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  Speaker 2: your own mortality and you don't want to bring people
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  Speaker 2: into that because what if something gets worse or happens.
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  Speaker 2: I fully understand his position on it, but I also
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  Speaker 2: love how Walter comforts Chris and says that you know
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  Speaker 2: Nate's going to get there, He's going to realize that
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  Speaker 2: he wants to move forward with a person, it's more fun, etc.
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  Speaker 1: Etc.
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  Speaker 2: I just loved how all those pieces like work together. Truly,
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  Speaker 2: these people are there for each other. I cannot stress
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  Speaker 2: like how much that was so enjoyable to watch.
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  Speaker 1: I hated, of course, the moment where Nate tells Chris
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  Speaker 1: he needs to take a step back. I was heartbroken
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  Speaker 1: for her because you think, finally they're getting it together.
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  Speaker 1: She's saying everything out loud to him, and I from
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  Speaker 1: a different perspective. Understand Nate not wanting to drag Chris along,
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  Speaker 1: probably not wanting to do the work of fostering a
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  Speaker 1: new relationship when he really just needs to focus on himself.
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  Speaker 1: But the letter that he writes to her about the
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  Speaker 1: plant and the metaphor about the plant her was real
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  Speaker 1: sweet and definitely left things open in a positive direction
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  Speaker 1: for the two of them. It definitely wasn't a closed door.
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  Speaker 1: I felt like there were opportunities for that relationship to
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  Speaker 1: exists in the future, but made me sad.
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  Speaker 2: I love the ending with the plant and the metaphor
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  Speaker 2: and the voice over storytelling we hear what was written
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  Speaker 2: in the letter. I loved all that, and I definitely
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  Speaker 2: think there is an open door there. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: Nate was motivated by hurting her by telling her we
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  Speaker 2: have to pause. I think it's fair that a person
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  Speaker 2: who's dealing with an illness like this says like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: I have to focus inward. Oh.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's totally fair too. I don't think his
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  Speaker 1: goal was to hurt her. Yeah, speaking of Nate and Claire,
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  Speaker 1: the other woman in his life gets a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of redemption, a little bit of a life beyond her
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  Speaker 1: role as Nate's future ex wife and mother of his child.
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  Speaker 1: I like that she and Nate come to kind of
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  Speaker 1: a moment of peace with each other. She chooses to
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  Speaker 1: get the help she needs for what I can only
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  Speaker 1: describe as financial impulsivity. Oh that's so good.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so glad that you shed some clarity on that,
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  Speaker 2: because as I was watching it, I was like, what
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  Speaker 2: is she What does she think is wrong that she
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  Speaker 2: needs help with?
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  Speaker 1: Is it?
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  Speaker 2: Is it spending money? Is it getting wrapped up in
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  Speaker 2: scams or or what is it?
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  Speaker 1: Exactly? Yeah, And it's not one hundred percent clear, but
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  Speaker 1: that's where I took it. And I think that the
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  Speaker 1: need to lie about it and just kind of get
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  Speaker 1: in too deep, but also makes good choices with the
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  Speaker 1: money that she does have. I like that. I feel
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  Speaker 1: like they are in a good place for each other.
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  Speaker 1: When she's like having her little solo night and they
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  Speaker 1: pan to the candle and I was like, what are
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  Speaker 1: we doing here? People? But I'm glad that it was just,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a little fire and led to a meet
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  Speaker 1: cute with her and Jake Epstein. A little fire that
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: leads to a meet cute. I mean, how else would
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: you describe that moment they're all fine, and she's like,
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  Speaker 1: wasn't really a big fire, just a lot of smoke,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like the building has not burnt down. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it just seems to be more of a nuisance than
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  Speaker 1: anything else. And she gets to go have a little
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  Speaker 1: mini date with Jack. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I loved it. I loved it, and I love that
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  Speaker 2: because early on Claire was like this sort of made
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  Speaker 2: out to be a villain a little bit, like she
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  Speaker 2: wasn't completely I wasn't rooting for her.
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  Speaker 1: I felt sorry for her.
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  Speaker 2: Because Nate was like so hard on, like I'm ending
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  Speaker 2: this marriage. She's come a long way in eight episodes.
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  Speaker 2: For me personally, part of me still feels like icky
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  Speaker 2: that it's Aria's ring that is sold and then yeah,
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  Speaker 2: people benefit from it because that's a loss for Aria,
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  Speaker 2: and maybe that all comes back around at some point
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  Speaker 2: well the future, but who knows.
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  Speaker 1: That's funny that you say that, because I was of
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  Speaker 1: all the loose threads of all the things that really
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  Speaker 1: don't come So much does come full circle in this episode,
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  Speaker 1: but a lot doesn't. A lot is still left in
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  Speaker 1: the open. That's one of those big pieces that Aria
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  Speaker 1: never knew and Nate and Chris don't know the origin
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  Speaker 1: of that ring, And I was thinking, I think that's
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  Speaker 1: just like life, like that's going to be one of
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  Speaker 1: those things that they'll know. How would she ever know
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  Speaker 1: at this point? Yeah, you wouldn't, So that's just going
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  Speaker 1: to be one of those things that maybe remains unknown
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  Speaker 1: only to the viewer. Really were the only people who
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  Speaker 1: know the truth? Right? That ring?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like that. You know, what's that Taylor Swift
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  Speaker 2: song about, like the invisible stres, the invisible string, and
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  Speaker 2: that's it?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Walter's arc is probably my favorite of the scene. I
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  Speaker 2: love that he goes from a trend to participant with
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  Speaker 2: all these friendships investing in the bar. I love the
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  Speaker 2: scene between him and Nate in the back office, Nate
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  Speaker 2: invites him to be a business partner, not just an investor.
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  Speaker 1: I loved all that.
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  Speaker 2: I did think it was a It felt appropriate, but
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  Speaker 2: also kind of a little bit weird, like, oh, yeah,
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: you're now a business partner, but you're gonna go on
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: this trip to Napa to learn like so quickly, like
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: him leaving as soon as it happens. But I love
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: that story of like now he's going to pursue something
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: else that he's never known about, but he'll be back.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: I loved Walter.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: I loved Walter. Yeah, that he has this next phase
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: of purpose, Like this whole season was about healing from
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: the loss of Brenda and now he has his next thing.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: What's your read on Tara and Sylvie in this episode?
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: I think it's a fine relationship. Maybe I can write
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: off that Sylvie's busy during a busy holiday season and
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Tara feels a little forgotten. Yeah, I do wish there
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: was more there. I don't know.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: I'm not like rooting for Tara and Sylvie. I think
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: they're fine. I'm rooting for Tara. I love Tara.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, same. You know, when Sylvie was blowing her off,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: I took got a different read on that situation, and
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: it was Ellis who was like, why don't you just
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: go to her house? Right? Sylvie seems thrilled to see
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Tara when Tara shows up, and I think this storyline
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: is more about Tara making room in her life for
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: somebody new. She's still processing the idea of moving on
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: and changing the shape of her life, and I think
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: that's really what it's about. Agree with you that I'm
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: more interested in Tara than Tara and Sylvie.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just one little you know. I talked all
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: season about the one thing that, like, ye feel like
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: I have to like look for and what's the thread
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: that ties it all together. I really did enjoy the
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: bonus being the thing that ties it all together. And
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: and we're talking of course about like literal money as bonuses,
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: but we're also bonuses that well, like.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Walter doesn't just get to be an investor, he gets
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: to be a partner. That's more than he could have
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: hoped for.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: In that regard, It's like all these unexpected little benefits,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: little gifts, right, And I think they already used the
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: gift as a previous title.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I just loved it.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: I'm so glad that for me it had moved away
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: from like trying to find this thing that connects it
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: all together and instead of just like seeing it and
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: not having to decipher it, you know what I mean.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: That wraps up my likes.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Well, I think we may be in the same vein
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: with our wishes. For me, it's a lot of loose ends.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: I want to start with Aria. Yep, she has the
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: biggest question mark over her head for me. At the
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: end of the episode, she and John are not in
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: a good place. I kind of was hoping that we
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: might get a reveal of John's infidelity, but she doesn't
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: know anything about that. John seems to very much have
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: moved on from that that phone call he gets it
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: seems like someone's calling him to letting it let him
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: know that DESI is changing offices? Is that how you
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: read that? And he's like, I don't care, we're not talking.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: But of course Aria overhears the part of the conversation
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: that he's not saying particularly complimentary things. Then, of course,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: via Tara's playlist, she finds the artist Ryan with the
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: tattoo that matches the photo. I kind of had helped
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: we would get a little more information about these things.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: That being said, if we are getting a season two,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: this is great. We need things to lead us into it.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: If we're not just Poorstedney Agadong. I'm like, what is
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: she going on tour? Does she have a f Who's
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: what's going on?
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Exactly, exactly, That's exactly my number one wish. There's
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: too many things left unexplained or under explained, you know,
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: all the stuff like you know, this is the first
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: time I was like, Oh, maybe John's infidelity came from
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: a place I'm I am not excusing his behavior by
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: any means, but maybe his marriage with Aria was very
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: difficult in terms of like taking care of her and
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: protecting her, and maybe his thing was with DESI was
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: easy and fun and opposite of what he had with Aria.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: And I don't know, I just need way more context
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: in the Aria storyline, in the Aria and John's storyline.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: So if they do do a season two, like you said,
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: like here we go, here's where we're gonna lead with it.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: So I'm also a little bit surprised that Walter and
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: the Lisa Gay Hamilton character never connect. They you know,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: they're in close proximity, they're in the same space, they
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: circling quite literally, but they they they have so many
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: instances that bring them very close together, both metaphorically and physically,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: and nothing happens. And so again I think that's it.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: I'm okay with that at a hint of what could be.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: I liked that we saw them finally occupy the same space,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: but again, I would have loved for them to have met.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, something, something connects somehow, Yeah, right.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: She's not. It's not accidental that we continue to see
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: her and she has this whole like needing to find
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: that ornament storyline and all of that right, and then
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: the rest of it. You know, it's like, what's gonna
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: happen with Theed's treatment. Ian is one of the stars
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: of the show, so we assume it's going to be successful.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: But I don't know the big picture that the writers
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: have planned for this show, and I don't know the
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: circumstance an under which Nate and Chris might end up together,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: So I have questions about that as well.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you hit all my wishes. The only other thing
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: I would want to add is the uncertainty of Chris's
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: future professionally. Oh you're great, I okay, fine, be part
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: of like the musical therapy group or whatever. But I
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: think it at her core, Chris is a music manager.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know, producer.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: I don't think she should just abandon that. I don't
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: know why she's at this like crossroads because Aria bounced.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: She's obviously very talented at her job at finding other talents,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: so why wouldn't she just continue to pursue that.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: I think they're hinting that she will when her old
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: boss is at her house. I think for some reason
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: that led me to believe that she's going to get
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: back in the mix, not with her old job, but
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: just this music therapy thing. It's just something to give
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: her a purpose in the meantime. I hope, I hope,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: because yes, she's very talented. How about some did you
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: see that? I have a few.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Oh, let's hear it, you know, not not the typicals,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: but just some funny things. The scene where Tara is
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: in her apartment and she's on the phone with Sylvie.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Did you see that Tara's Christmas tree was a dress form?
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Like it?
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: No, Like the upper the bodice of a dress form
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: was the top of the tree, and then the tree.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Was the skirt. Oh that's fun.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: It was so interesting. But I was like, how does
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: this relate to Tara?
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: What is Tara?
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: What's her Do we know anything about her background?
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Great question.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: I can't recall offhand, Like is she in fashion?
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Is she what? Like?
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: What what's the choice here with the tree? I just
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: thought it was interesting. A couple other things. Nate tossing
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Rebecca's hairclip after Alice finds it in their pocket, I
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: thought was so funny.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Right into the lights, like I'll keep track of it,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: and then throws it into the dishbin moving on.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I enjoyed that. And then the last thing is
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: when Chris tells Nate she's all in as a Gilmore
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Girls person. Yeah, self, maybe you clocked it. I mean
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: that line carries so much emotional weight if you are
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: a fan of Luke and Laura Lai and know what
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: that means between the two of them. I just that's
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: just one of those like phrases that should be trademarked.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: I wonder if it is by Gilmour Universe somehow.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was great. I heard that as well when
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: she was saying that I have a just see that
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: from one marcyta house Oh, who replied to us on
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: threads stop and here's what I love about this. First
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: of all, she was replying to there was a thread
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: about catch up with our Ripperle reviews, and let me
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: read Marcy's reply. She says, Ladies, now, I know I'm
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: supposed to say that the toilet paper should go over
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: not under dove it. So pause right there. She listened
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: to the episode.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, we fully had a conversation about it
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: last night. Oh my god, Oh my god, and dying.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: That she listened. Can you believe it.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: I'm such a huge issues listening to this. I'm such
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: a huge fan. I need her way more on Hallmark.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: I just think she's incredible.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Then goes on to say, but quite honestly, I've never
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: understood why it mattered. It literally works either way. It's
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: a preference, right. Why must humanity have such divides, to
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: which I replied, I said, Marcy, were honored that you
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: listened and responded to such a gem on ripple, and
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: you make an excellent point if only toilet paper arguments
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: were our biggest issue. And then she responds, thank you, obviously,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: and she says, an, FYI, I live in Vancouver, BC,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: because if you recall, I didn't talk to out leaving
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: the United States, and I didn't nowhere.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: She had talked about it on threads right.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Yes, many many years ago, and so she left and
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: has never looked back. So she's a Canadian now. So
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: hi'm Marcie. I feel like we need to induct her
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: into our unofficial girl gang.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Yes, na'am, I'm just.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Gonna call her my friend from here on out.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: That's amazing. That brings me so much joy, hasn't it.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: I'm so like, I feel like flush in my face.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: I'm so happy about it.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: I know me too, me too. Thank you for listening.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Well, I gotta say like, I really enjoyed this series
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: this season. I pray that it gets a season two.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, I see on Reddit, I see on TikTok
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: people talking about it all the time. When people are like, hey,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: give me a show to watch, there's it's I always
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: see ripples suggested I really enjoyed it.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: I really enjoyed it too. I would be thrilled to
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: hear a season two announcement. I had fun reviewing it
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: and it was kind of nice watching it week to week,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: just like parsing it out one episode at a time. Yeah,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: I agree. Well, thank you for listening to this episode
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• 30:27
  Speaker 2: Goodbye bye.
• 30:41
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