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- 0:00Three, two, one, zero.
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- 0:11Welcome to the Small Biz Chat podcast with the number one small business expert, Melinda
- 0:17Emerson.
- 0:18Melinda's goal is to end small business failure, and she'll give you the information
- 0:23you need to succeed and live the life you dream of.
- 0:26Now here's your host, the small biz chat lady herself, Melinda Emerson.
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- 0:59Angela Williams is president and co founder of Detail Experts Franchise Systems LLC, an
- 1:05innovative eco friendly mobile cleaning franchise redefining automotive and commercial
- 1:11cleaning.
- 1:12They are a fast growing mobile detail franchise with more than 90 units, and she has deep
- 1:17expertise across finance, technology and operations, and she's leading the company
- 1:22towards an ambitious goal of over a thousand franchisees.
- 1:26For more information, you can go to www.detailexperts with an x, not an e.net.
- 1:33So Angela, welcome to the Small Bitch Head podcast.
- 1:36And please tell us, you know, how did start?
- 1:40Like, how did Detail Experts start and how did you guys get to the point where you wanted to
- 1:44franchise?
- 1:46Thank you so much for the opportunity to share.
- 1:48I'm so excited to share.
- 1:49Detail Experts was actually the idea of our son when he was eight years old.
- 1:54He said to dad, my husband, Emmanuel, why don't we start a business cleaning cars with steam?
- 2:02I mean, why is the eight year old thinking about that?
- 2:03I don't know, but it was a great idea.
- 2:05So Emmanuel, who's totally fascinated with steam and everything mechanical said, I don't
- 2:11know if I can or not, but let me see.
- 2:13So he twirled around with it for two years and then eventually he said, I got it.
- 2:17I figured out a method to clean the extra portion of vehicles with steam, and we
- 2:21submitted a patent at that time.
- 2:23Now my role, being counter that I am, and I said, all right, well, if you figure that part
- 2:28out, then I will begin to help you market the business.
- 2:31So once we got our operations solid, we brought in a consulting team that helped us put the
- 2:37franchise system together.
- 2:38So we've been franchises since 2008, which is absolutely exciting.
- 2:43But if you think about what was happening in 2008, it probably wasn't a great time to start
- 2:47any business, let alone a franchise.
- 2:49So we were fortunate in that we learned a lot and we were able to franchise internationally
- 2:54in Dubai and Abu Dhabi before we franchised in The U.
- 2:59S.
- 2:59So we're super excited, helping franchisees provide cleaning services using our eco
- 3:04friendly patent pending STEAM method.
- 3:11Alright.
- 3:11So help me understand what in the world made you franchise outside of The US before you
- 3:21franchised in The US?
- 3:22Like, that seems like the harder way to do things.
- 3:26So help me understand how you did that.
- 3:28You know, I wish I could say it was planned, but sometimes in business, especially for
- 3:32entrepreneurs, you have to go with where the opportunities lie.
- 3:36We were actually contacted by the Royal Family of Dubai and Abu Dhabi asking us about our
- 3:43system.
- 3:43They were excited because it used less water and what they said to us at that time, hey, we
- 3:49have all the money, we have great luxurious vehicles, but we don't have water and this
- 3:54system could work.
- 3:55So soon after doing all of our investigation, etc, we flew over to Dubai for three weeks and
- 4:01there we were.
- 4:02We were in international waters even before we had begun to expand the franchise here in The
- 4:08U.
- 4:08S.
- 4:10Wow, so talk to us about what were some of your early challenges with that though because it
- 4:15couldn't have been like easy peasy lemon squeezy, right?
- 4:18Oh, absolutely not.
- 4:20Now remember, they are on a two forty system in The US.
- 4:25We're on a 120, so you have to think about the electrical outlets, etc.
- 4:29But more so than anything, it was understanding that not only did they not have water, they had
- 4:36a sand problem.
- 4:38So it's not as easy to keep a Rolls Royce looking nice and shiny with this wonderful top
- 4:44coat and their sand blowing around.
- 4:46So if there was a sandstorm, that was an issue.
- 4:48But I would say the most complicated thing is they were so far away.
- 4:51So thank goodness long time ago, we just used Skype.
- 4:55We didn't do all of this podcasting stuff, but we were on Skype sharing, and it was easy for
- 5:00us to build a connection that easy over Skype.
- 5:05So how did you so from when you kinda figured it out, how how fast did you grow from when you
- 5:12started in 2008 from, you know, to where you are now?
- 5:16How fast did your franchise systems grow?
- 5:18Like, was it like 10 more franchises a year?
- 5:21Like, like how did you grow?
- 5:22What was your plan for that?
- 5:24Yeah, so what was exciting, we had our very first franchise November 2008, and to this day,
- 5:30he's still a franchise owner.
- 5:33Then we had our second franchise in 2009.
- 5:37That was a family, a young family of franchise owners.
- 5:41And then it was that point, I would say the financial or financing industry was kind of
- 5:47slowing down.
- 5:47So people were holding on to the money that they had or they could not get the financing
- 5:52that they needed.
- 5:53So for us, it was twenty eleven, twenty twelve when we started the conversation
- 5:59internationally.
- 6:00So that's when it really blew up because we were able to sell a master franchise, so
- 6:05multiple franchises at once.
- 6:07Then I would say after that, it was when the economy started to come back in twenty
- 6:12fourteen, twenty fifteen.
- 6:13There were new opportunities for financing, so therefore we were able to expand and literally
- 6:19it grew so fast in twenty fifteen-twenty sixteen-twenty seventeen.
- 6:23It's one of those things where be careful what you ask for because you just might get it.
- 6:28So tell us a little bit about your franchise.
- 6:31So what is the buy in?
- 6:32What is the all in?
- 6:33Like, what do you like, tell us what it if I wanted to raise my hand and be a detailed
- 6:38expert franchise today, like, what what is involved in that?
- 6:42Yeah, so the financial investment and I'm going to do simple.
- 6:46Of course, with any business, you need to have operating capital.
- 6:49So it's 70,000 that you need to have to get into the franchise.
- 6:5435,000 of that is the initial franchise fee and roughly 35,000 to get the business going
- 6:59marketing your vehicles, signage, etc.
- 7:04It's a mobile business, so therefore there's not a lot of overhead for building.
- 7:08We've since offered options where they can have a stationary location as well.
- 7:14But the idea is 70,000.
- 7:17Then if you want to add multiple units, it can go upwards of 180,000.
- 7:21So 70,000 basically to get in, plus the ability to scale that business.
- 7:27All right, all right, but the good thing about it is sort of like once it gets set up you just
- 7:32put your open light on and you go out there and get you some customers, right?
- 7:35Absolutely, absolutely.
- 7:37Okay, so now tell us about where you are now, right?
- 7:41So you're at 90,000 franchise units now?
- 7:47Yep, 90 franchise units now.
- 7:50So what's exciting is all of these years of experience, we have been able to help our
- 7:55franchise system understand the dos and don'ts.
- 7:58And with any business, it's a proven system.
- 8:01So we know exactly from your marketing what you need to do every day to make sure you're out
- 8:05there.
- 8:06A closed mouth obviously is not going to get fed.
- 8:08So it's important that our franchisees follow the system and follow the model.
- 8:13As we look at where we are right now, I would say we have transitioned to more of a
- 8:18relationship based franchise.
- 8:20And what I mean by that is, is repeat clients.
- 8:23We primarily service business to business clients.
- 8:26So the Ryder, the Snyder, car dealerships, etc.
- 8:29We're providing services for them that two weeks later we're providing that same service
- 8:34to them all over again.
- 8:35So you have that repeat business.
- 8:36It gives you an opportunity to be able to not only meet your financial obligations, but
- 8:41you're building a deeper relationship with that client.
- 8:44I love it.
- 8:44So, but tell me now, when you think about what keeps your business tight, what are some of the
- 8:53culture markers that have been key to your growth?
- 8:56Like it seems like everybody might not be cut out to do this.
- 9:01So how can you how do you sort of like what kind of systems do you have to maintain the
- 9:07culture of your organization?
- 9:09Well, I'm glad you said that because once you start growing the business, that is a big fear
- 9:14that culturally it could change and I would say that's for franchise system or a family
- 9:18business in general.
- 9:19We meet with our franchise owners often so they are immediately signed a coach and that coach
- 9:26meets with them on minimum once a week And then we meet as a group, all of the franchise owners
- 9:32on a monthly basis.
- 9:34Then we have wonderful conferences that can be delivered in person.
- 9:38And during COVID, we did a lot on Zoom and that type of thing to keep individuals connected.
- 9:44And then we also go out and visit.
- 9:47Maybe that wasn't so prevalent during COVID, but now we go out and visit the franchise
- 9:51owners to see what struggles they may be having, what kind of support they may need,
- 9:55etcetera.
- 9:56So it's that ongoing communication, having a dedicated person to each one that matters.
- 10:01Now how big is your team?
- 10:03Everyone gets assigned a coach.
- 10:05How big is the team that sort of like operates home office if you will?
- 10:09Yeah so there is 17 individuals in home office and each coach could work with up to 15
- 10:18franchise units.
- 10:20Oh, wow.
- 10:21Okay.
- 10:21Okay.
- 10:22So now tell me something.
- 10:23Let's just talk about franchising in general.
- 10:25What do you think makes the franchise model more attractive for entrepreneurs than just
- 10:32starting a business?
- 10:34Yeah, it's really one of those things where you get a jumpstart.
- 10:38A lot of the processes, a lot of the marketing, a lot of the standards that would be needed in
- 10:45the whole system.
- 10:46It's not just one thing.
- 10:47It's the whole system is already set up.
- 10:50It's a proven system.
- 10:51So if you can follow the system and you are coachable, you work along with your coach, then
- 10:56you can achieve that success when you start from scratch, you're kind of figuring it out
- 10:59all by yourself.
- 11:00Not to suggest that in franchising there is not a learning curve because just like you start a
- 11:06new job, there's a learning curve, but in this, the learning curve is shortened because there's
- 11:10a system already laid out.
- 11:13What do you think are some of the biggest misconceptions people have about franchise
- 11:17businesses?
- 11:19Yeah, I think this is probably true anytime you're working with someone in business and
- 11:24that is so when I buy this franchise, I'm automatically going to be successful, right?
- 11:29No, no, that is a myth.
- 11:33You still have to do the work.
- 11:34You have to do the work.
- 11:36So part of our marketing strategy is you have to be out in the community because we don't
- 11:41want this to seem like a corporate franchise from over there.
- 11:44You are local.
- 11:45You are the local representation in your space, so therefore you need to be out.
- 11:49Another misconception is I'm going to be able to make all the money I made in my corporate
- 11:54job tomorrow.
- 11:56No, that's not how it works.
- 11:59I mean, definitely you can get there and that is the goal for most.
- 12:02If we can help most of our new franchise owners get to a standpoint of what they were making
- 12:08previously, they're happy campers, but part of that is the ramp up and you do, any
- 12:14entrepreneur, you're gonna have to spend more hours building your own business, let's say,
- 12:18than you were working for yourself, period.
- 12:21So we kind of help franchise owners get over the fact that this is not just another job,
- 12:27this is something that you are building for your own legacy.
- 12:31So a lot of times I have heard people in the franchise industry, especially when I go to
- 12:37franchise shows because I'm involved in the franchise industry certainly because I teach
- 12:42people who buy franchises how to sell.
- 12:44What my business is.
- 12:45But one of the things that I hear when I'm on the floor listening to people is they talk
- 12:51about this concept of absentee owner.
- 12:54Like you can buy this business and hire you a manager and you know you go off and do what
- 12:59you're doing.
- 13:00What do you think about that?
- 13:02True or no?
- 13:03I think there's some truth to it but but but but but and this is a big but.
- 13:09To be a absentee or semi absentee owner, you have to trust the team that you've hired.
- 13:15If you have a lot of experience in that, and the people that you are putting in front of the
- 13:20day to day to grow your business have experience in doing that, that's one thing.
- 13:25But you cannot say, I'm gonna let my brother-in-law do it.
- 13:28And you know what?
- 13:29He knows nothing about this business.
- 13:30He'll figure it out as he goes.
- 13:32That I think that there will be a lot of disappointment.
- 13:35Semi absentee can work, meaning the franchise owner is involved in the business development,
- 13:40perhaps they're involved in the marketing, and there is someone that manages the operation of
- 13:45the business.
- 13:46But to totally remove yourself from the business operations, I would say is a no no.
- 13:52If you spent money on this business, you need to be there to grow it and if you can't, just
- 13:56have enough money to hire a team of individuals that can make sure your business grows.
- 14:04Okay, well I think that's fair.
- 14:06I just feel like here's what I know after twenty six years in business.
- 14:12If you think you're going to buy a business and be an absentee owner right away, you're giving
- 14:18somebody a license to steal from you and they'll be able to do it before you realize
- 14:23they did it.
- 14:24And so I'm like, I'm not saying that you can't work yourself out of having to be involved
- 14:29heavy in the day to day, but you gotta plan on a year or eighteen months being in there doing
- 14:34the work every day.
- 14:35Like I just, I hear all these people all the time that say all these ridiculous things and
- 14:40I'm always like, look, if you don't know the business, you gotta make sure you know the
- 14:47business before you hire somebody else.
- 14:49That's why I always get in my team's face when somebody wants to tell me how hard it is to do
- 14:54something or how long it should take to do something and I have to remind people that
- 14:57before I had all of y'all I used to do all these jobs.
- 15:02Yes.
- 15:02So I'm very much like I call BS sometimes on people that want to tell me why it took them
- 15:07four hours to do something that could take an hour, right?
- 15:10So I think that it's important to give people a realistic idea and that doesn't say that you
- 15:17can't, you know learn the business and you know become a multi unit holder and have multiple
- 15:22things going on but you got to know how this business runs, yes?
- 15:26Oh absolutely and I would say one step further even if you are going to be semi absent from
- 15:32the business, you have to know how to do the business just in case.
- 15:37You need, let's just take it like this, we have customers where you have to access their
- 15:42facility.
- 15:43If you are a absent owner someone doesn't show up, can you even get in?
- 15:50Ask yourself that.
- 15:51If the answer is no, then I would say that's probably not the right model for you.
- 15:56And then also too, right, employees sometimes don't show up.
- 16:00Yes.
- 16:00That's a real thing.
- 16:02That that is an absolute real thing.
- 16:04I would love to say, oh, no.
- 16:06AI is gonna fix that.
- 16:09That's not one thing that AI is gonna fix.
- 16:11Not early.
- 16:12So if you had someone that was interested in a franchise, not necessarily your franchise, but
- 16:18a franchise, what is the best piece of advice you could give them?
- 16:23The best piece of advice is find something that you can get excited about.
- 16:29And I'll give you an example.
- 16:31One of our early franchise owners, his name was Kurt, and Kurt was a high level executive at
- 16:38one of the food delivery service.
- 16:40And his thing was, know, hey I'm not really a blue collar person but I can figure it out.
- 16:45An exciting part about Kurt, he has exceptional leadership skills.
- 16:49He had the ability to get people to do more than they even imagined that they could do and
- 16:54for that reason he was able to run a very successful business that he was able to grow.
- 17:00So my advice is find something that you can get excited about even if it's not something that
- 17:04you've done in the past, but you can totally get excited about.
- 17:08Be willing to learn the business itself and once you learn the business definitely have
- 17:13leadership skills enough to attract the right people to help you continue to grow that
- 17:17business.
- 17:18Love it.
- 17:18All right, last question for you.
- 17:20What is the best business advice anyone has ever given you?
- 17:27The best business advice I've ever gotten is you need to be prepared to be a business owner.
- 17:35I didn't know what that meant, but it's what she was really saying, her name was Monica, and
- 17:39what she was saying to me is you need to get your ducks in a row.
- 17:43This is not a situation where I'm going to get a business because I have no money at all.
- 17:48It is because I have stacked away and I know I have access to resources over and beyond the
- 17:54cost of getting to the business.
- 17:56Without doing that, I think it's just too stressful.
- 17:59It's one of those things where you don't even know if you can pay your mortgage or your rent.
- 18:03You can't really operate a business from that state in a successful manner.
- 18:09So get your ducks in a row.
- 18:11That was the best business advice, and I tell everybody that every time I can.
- 18:15I love it, I love it.
- 18:16Thank you so much Angela Williams.
- 18:19She is the President and Co Founder of Detail Experts.
- 18:23You have been a wealth of information and knowledge today and we really appreciate you.
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- 19:10So with that, I leave you all, and this is always true.
- 19:14You never lose in business.
- 19:17Either you win or you learn.
- 19:18I'm Melinda Emerson, your host.
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