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Joe Rogan Drools Into JD Vance's Mouth To Provide Controlled Opposition To BFFLs Epstein & Trump · Papa Gut

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Oh dude, I totally understand that Rogan doesn't give a about
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the Epstein class. If you guys have watched Rogan,
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he stays away from criticizing any Epstein people like any of
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the Epstein class comes on RFK, whoever else.
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He has been like avoiding talking about it for a long
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time, but now all of a sudden the files are too big to ignore.
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So what does Trump do? He sends his boy JD Vance.
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Go on Rogan, ask him these questions that are tough
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questions with no meaningful pushback so that we can get a
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new narrative out here. Oh that's a very interesting
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concern. Well, here's my good answer that
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everyone knows has failed. Oh OK yeah you know what?
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I'm a fuck. I have a traumatic brain injury.
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It's all marching orders. The strategy of skepticism, the
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strategy of holding to task on the Epstein files is nothing
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more than a strategy from Joe Rogan the plant.
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I don't give a fuck if I sound like a conspiracy theorist.
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This makes perfect sense to me after watching Joe Rogan fluff
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Trump's balls in the softest ballest interview I've ever seen
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in my entire life on Trump. He is a an OP dude.
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And if that this positive evidence ever existed, it was
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probably destroyed after 2006, 2007.
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Right, This is not true. He's saying these things so that
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you think that it's all gone and there's just no reason to care
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about the open cloud anymore. That's the whole point.
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All right, guys, JD Vance had a had the conversation with Rogan.
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I was considering watching the full thing, but it's three hours
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and honestly, I'm so busy. You guys know, we're getting
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ready for the baby. Like I'm actually very busy.
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I got to clean out for the stream and everything.
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And you know, this is what it is.
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So this guy's content's better than mine and Brogan's anyway.
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So like, hey, let's do like a react to it.
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It's about JD Vance. A lot of it centralizes around
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Epstein, which is crazy. They, they must be like really
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afraid of this whole Epstein, this whole Epstein thing.
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I guess probably because Trump ran on releasing it and decided
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not to because he's in it like a lot.
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Only like 38,000 times. So yeah, man, let's give it a
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watch. You guys know the drill really
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quick. We're going to plug the
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exclusive videos. Right now the plan is to release
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I'm trying to get myself a better schedule 'cause it's, you
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know, a lot to do between getting the house ready and this
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and that. So this is the backlog should be
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another one going up by the time I release this about Lindsey
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Graham. So yeah, Rob and die Ed channel.
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I'm going to start pushing this more.
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I'm going to start doing more clips for this with my podcast
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on my wife. We're having a baby.
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That's the most recent episode. It's a lot of fun.
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I really see myself pushing this harder and harder because I just
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All right, so that's all in the description.
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So let's watch this Now. Enough of the plug.
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Say this with all candor, like we absolutely screwed up the
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comms of the Epstein files, but we just did.
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But do I think the reason we screwed up the comms is because
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we were trying to hide something?
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No, I think the reason we screwed up the comms, the
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Epstein files is 1, you know, Pam said, Pam Bondy said The
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Client List is on my desk. Right.
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Well, she they had binders, there were there were 100%.
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Binders of nothing basically. But those binders were largely
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documents that had already been released, right?
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To who did that so so. Here's let me try to what was
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the? Purpose of that performative
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display of the Epstein files and she was saying there's 10s of
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thousands of hours of film. I don't know what the purpose of
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it was, why but. You're the vice president.
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Why? I know that the effect of it was
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to make people mistrust the entire effort.
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I don't understand what that means.
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Listen, man, like here's the here's the deal.
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I think that Trump's presidency is interesting because
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everything that happens is because of Trump.
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And they're just kind of they're just kind of puppets for Trump.
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I mean, Vance used to say that Trump was basically like the new
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Hitler, and now he's completely walked it back.
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You know, if I wanted to be really charitable, I think that
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like other, you know, political conservatives like JD Vance and
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and other, you know, politician people, I think that they're
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just trying to wait out Trump to get him out of the way.
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And they know that they have to start making themselves look
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better and better as time goes on, unless Trump, I guess,
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decides to be a dictator. But I mean, I don't think people
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understand the timeline of events when it came to the
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Epstein files. A lot of people first and
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foremost will say why didn't Biden release it?
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Jelene Maxwell could still was still in her appeal so Biden
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couldn't release it. Also, Trump wished Gelane
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Maxwell good luck in her trial. That's fucking crazy.
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She was helping Epstein, sex trafficking, rape girls.
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That's number one. Number two, Trump ran on
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releasing it. Then he got to the point where
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he could release it and he decided that he wasn't going to
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release it and so he threw it to Congress even though he could
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have released it. Congress voted to release it,
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but they had no actual enforcement metric.
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It was like, you have to release it, but there was no punishment
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metric attached to it. So it didn't really mean
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anything. And they've been slowly
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releasing like percentages, like one, 2% of it heavily redacted,
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removing Trump's name where it heavily incriminates him.
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And there are there's a Democrat, Ted Lieu, who says,
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and maybe he's wrong, but you would just release the Epstein
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files to prove it where there's allegations that Trump raped and
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threatened to kill girl little girls in the files, which I
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think is very believable. I mean, this person raped at
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least one person, E Jean Carroll.
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He used to brag about walking in on locker rooms of events that
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he the pageants that he owned just because he could.
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That's fucking crazy. Could you imagine?
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Like even if it was your 20 year old daughter, some old man just
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walking into the pageant and was looking at her naked?
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That's fucking crazy. So this guy's obviously a brazen
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pedophile rapist. And it's really thankfully, the
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only good thing about it is it seems to be slowly killing the
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the pressure of the Trump administration.
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But I mean, Jesus Christ did this shit's fucking crazy.
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All right, so we have JD Vance on Joe Rogan's podcast promoting
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a book, but really he's using this to try to set himself up to
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run in 2028. So he needs to distance himself
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from the Epstein files fiasco and he's.
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Probably not going to win. Yeah, the the problem is like
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Vance is not going to be able to win.
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And this is assuming Trump doesn't do some kind of
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dictatorship. But Vance can't win.
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And the reason why Vance won't be able to win is because every
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time Trump comes into office, he spirals us into a into a bad
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economy. Now, in his defense, COVID was
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uncontrollable. He did push COVID conspiracies,
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but at the end of the day, that was going to set us up for for a
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rough time. But every single time the
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economy is rough, the Democrat has voted in.
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People intuitively understand, even like mogga rapist
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conservatives, that Democrats are better for the country.
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And So what happens is like, Bush destroyed everything.
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Well, we had like Clinton, yay, everything was balanced.
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Bush destroyed the economy, right?
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OK, we're going to vote a Democrat.
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Obama got us back to a strong, healthy spot.
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They voted Trump in. He started destroying the
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economy and massively inflating our deficit spending before
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COVID even happened. COVID happened, the economy's
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bad. What happens?
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Joe Biden gets voted in. Joe Biden, by the end of his
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presidency, puts us in a decent spot.
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Trump comes in and he's making everything harder, right?
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Like ridiculous tariffs, destroying relationships with
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other countries. Everything is worse for
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everybody. Gas prices are up for an
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unnecessary war in Iran that he wanted to go into because Israel
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told him to, right? So like, what happens is like,
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we're going to feel more economic pressure by the end of
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this and like a Democrat's going to win because everybody
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understands intuitively that Democrats are better, even
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Republicans. But Republicans have like this
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emotional baby brain where they have faith that the Republicans
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will come in and make everything better by cutting their taxes
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when they don't really ever do anything except for help
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billionaires. And maybe like the top 10% who
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are already doing well while forsaking the rest of the people
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at the bottom and making sure jobs die more and more to a is
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dominance, which is already massacring jobs.
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And they'll pretend they care about factory jobs disappearing,
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but then they're like, yeah, let AI do whatever it wants so.
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The Iran war disaster while also appeasing Trump in his base
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which is nearly impossible. He's just getting roasted by
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both the neo con MAGA crowd and the anti Israel America First
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crowd. Oh, that's another reason why
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Vance came in. He has a brown wife.
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I should have led with that. I don't care but MAGA is racist.
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They they'd rather brown people be looked at as demons by the
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Trump administration than for them to actually do better in
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the world. Like MAGA is so hateful they're
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OK with spending more money to harm brown, gay and trans
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people. It's insane, actually.
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Like Tucker Carlson, Marjorie Taylor Green and Nick Fontes
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fans like most of the top comments are about Peter Thiel #
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Thier and JD being compromised. And people like Ben Shapiro
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don't like JD either because he thinks he blames Israel too much
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and he tries to pander to conspiracy theorists and Tucker
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Carlson fans and. Well, you know what?
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I salute you, Captain Israel. Hey, at least Ben is consistent.
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Except he's not, because he used to hate Trump and then he
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decided to cum Guzzle. We saw that in the Ben Shapiro
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video. We watched you guys like this
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one. Ben Shapiro's company is
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drowning, but at least his sister is hot.
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It's kind of true. It's kind of true, dude.
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It's kind of true. It's incredible stuff.
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And Democrats, apparently, people are even calling him a
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Nick Fontes. I thought he was going to say
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something else. That was crazy.
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Sorry, my brain's broken. Porter now even though Nick and
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his fans hate him so it seems like he's only losing.
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People here. Like Dave Smith called this the
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worst case scenario for JD because the Warhawks are mad at
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him but also he's still doing a half ass defence of the war so
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he's going to have a lot of trouble separating himself from
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that and peace. What happens?
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When you have to take marching orders from Trump, people have
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to also understand that, like Trump has a strategy and it's
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such a low IQ strategy, but it works for MAGA because they're
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fucking stupid. But they're starting to wake up
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and it's, I'm going to do something really fucking stupid
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and then I'm going to blame somebody else for it because
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they're the ones who like announced it.
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Like Pam Bonnie Bondie, she's handling the Epstein case.
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Trump is the one telling her what to do, but she takes the
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fall, right? That's how it all works.
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So basically you're all just like they're they're everybody's
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there just like fodder for Trump.
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That's it. What's my thoughts on Dean
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Withers? What a funny question.
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I was at the gym today. Oh, getting getting swole.
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And I was I thought about it and I was like, I don't have any
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energy for like calling out like any really anybody on the left
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right now. I'm just being honest with you.
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I know that there I guess there are some bad people.
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I haven't seen anything bad from Dean Withers.
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I guess he's young and kind of cringe, but like also I'm old
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and kind of cringe. We just he's I'm not his
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audience. He's not my audience, but I
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haven't really seen anything that I care.
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I really makes me care in a negative way.
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You know, he seems smart and he's young.
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He's fine, you know what I mean? I, I have no strong opinions on
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a lot of people. There's so many other.
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I either would rather this is the thing.
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I'd rather spend my time either criticizing like right wing,
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like insane figures because they're fucking horrendous.
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Like we're talking about like what's what's something cringe
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from Dean Withers wanting too much health care and maybe
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having a silly voice. I don't know, Versus like what
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the what is the right doing? They're fucking going to war and
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bombing brown people because that's two different things to
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me. So I have no real energy for it,
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which I think is fine and appropriate.
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Cause again, the left right now, it's just like some of it's just
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kind of cringe versus like the right being terrible.
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Meanwhile, you know, I remember specifically Ben Shapiro, he
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like refused to criticize Andrew Tate in a meaningful capacity
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all the way until like the really bad sex trafficked rape
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guy until all of a sudden, you know, Hamas attacked Israel
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people. And then, you know, Andrew Tate
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was like, Oh my God, this is fine kind of a thing.
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So the right doesn't hold themselves to task.
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They finally are so like, you know, if they're not going to
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hold themselves to task on people downplaying Epstein, why
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the fuck do I have to hold myself to task on calling people
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out like Hassan specifically? But but like, it is nothing to
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call out Dean Weathers for. I'm just like fucking ranting
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right now. All right, thank you for this
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comment. How do you deal with getting
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older? I'm 25 right now and I'm scared
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of death of aging. It's comforting to see you take
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it. Well.
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You look great for 45. By the way.
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I thought you were in your early to mid 30s.
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All right, well, I'm fucking 36 and I deal with aging in the way
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where I understand that like I'm unhealthy and I have, but I have
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control over de aging myself physically by being productive
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in my execution of working out and I do work out.
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I am like kind of muscular. I'm not going to get up and show
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my quads or anything, but I am pretty big.
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I'm pretty strong. I do functional strength
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training. I do Zurcher squats, which have
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been great for my hips. I do Jefferson curls, which have
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been great for my lower back. I have been doing like short
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pauses on all my reps I've been doing full deep movements.
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My shoulder is fixed. I used to drive a bus a lot and
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I parked buses a lot. So I would whip my, you know,
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when you're, you're parking a 28 foot long bus over and over
12:52
again all day. You're whipping and you're
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tearing apart your rotator cuff. My rotator cuff is feeling much
12:56
better. I'm more athletic now because
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I've been walking like 1/2 hour a day four days a week after I
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work out. I've been eating more
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vegetables, especially in the morning, which have been good
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for my gut Biome and my fiber and like my colon.
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I've gotten my health under control with, you know, taking
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medications which have been really helpful, the correct
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medications plus all the different, like I'm slowly
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eating better, especially again, getting in my fiber intake.
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I am healthier now about 36 and I was probably at 25.
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I'm more flexible. I can get on the floor and clean
13:31
things on the floor and bend over with my back and pick
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things up without my lower back and my spine hurting, which is
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huge, or my hips hurting. I'm just in a better spot and I
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feel a lot better than I used to.
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And a part of it's really motivating.
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Well, the part of the motivation for me is that like, I'm going
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to be having a kid and I'm going to be having a kid at 36.
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And that's just what God gave me, which I'm so thankful for.
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And I want to be able to keep up with her when when she's 15.
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So I need to start now and I need to get my shit together,
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you know? So that's kind of where I am.
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And I take it slow. I haven't been going super fast.
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It's been 2 years to get to this point, really longer than that.
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But I'm not getting into it of like slowly just doing better
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than I was before to get myself up to this point.
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And now like, yeah, I'm pretty decently healthy and I'm I'm
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just going to continue to slowly get more and more healthy and
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take myself more and more seriously.
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So that's how I dealt with it for workout wise, Wendel 531.
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I always say this 5 by 5 strong list by Mark Crypto.
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I always say this and I might release a workout video at the
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beginning of next year, so where I'll talk about everything.
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But right now I'm still getting confident and comfortable with
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the routine that I've been doing, which has been going
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really well. So Oh, you actually thought I
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was 45? Oh, OK, people in the stream
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were trolling. You believed him.
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OK, OK, OK, that's funny. Anyway.
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Peter Teal in the Epstein class, especially based on the
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comments. On whoa Twitter I love.
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And if he can't manage? It's a good insult.
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To do that, I don't think he is because it's true the chance in
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2028, but he seems to be leaning more towards Tucker Carlson's
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side because Tucker helped him get his VP position and they're
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good friends and Tucker's kind of under the teal umbrella.
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And so I think the plan is to get Tucker out ahead of the Iran
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war and anti Israel sentiment growing so then he can use his
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credibility to back JD because. JD Well, Tucker's another
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grifter. Remember when he got fired from
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Fox? He cost him like $800 million
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because he was knowingly lying about the voter fraud.
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Like the machines being broken and he was in text messages
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being like, I don't even believe this.
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No, he's a Griffler. He is definitely going in that
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direction, but he has to walk a fine line right now because he
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still has to support Trump's decisions and placate the pro
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Israel faction. He has to make, he has to hope
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that the Coco Melon white people, that's what I call the
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people on Twitter. We'll forget about everything
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that happens 2 seconds ago, which is new shining
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information. Whoa, she's.
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Having a lot of trouble doing like with this podcast, he just
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ended up upsetting everybody like the Ben Shapiro, Fox News
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demographic think he's trying to undermine the president because
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he's too soft on Iran and wants to have peace talks with them.
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He also blames Israel for sabotaging any kind of diplomacy
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with Iran. And kind of.
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Based. You know that there was again,
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there's this time article that came out yesterday.
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A friend sent it to me. It's like worth reading because
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it lists a bunch of people who have quite literally been paid
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by a former Trump campaign person who was himself paid by
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certain elements within the Israeli government.
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And those people are attacking me viciously for quite literally
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trying to accomplish the negotiation objective that the
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president set for the country, saying that we should not be
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negotiating with Iran, we should just keep the military campaign
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going indefinitely. And that is that is their
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explicit position. And funny because Lindsey.
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Graham was apparently one of the people that convinced Trump to
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go and attack Iran for no fucking reason.
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Coming after. Me saying that, you know, people
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have come after me and say that I'm influenced by Qatar, that
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I'm influenced by foreign government.
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Trump is you. Got a fucking plane from them
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permits that. You know, I take my marching
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orders from Tucker Carlson and there there's just so much
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bullshit out there when what I'm actually trying to do is
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accomplish what the president of United States told me to
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accomplish, I believe. That which is.
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A settlement of this that accomplishes our objectives.
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Iran doesn't have a nuclear weapon.
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We have the free flow. Well, if we.
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Stayed in the Iran deal, they wouldn't have even tried to make
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new ones, but OK of oil and. Gas, they were adhering.
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To it, by the way, and and. Like, I should be clear, you
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know, like, I don't actually mind.
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I don't mind foreign governments try to influence the United
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States all the time. You know, Israel does it, other
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countries do it. It's just sort of the nature of
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the beast. What bothers me is actually when
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Americans allow meaning, American leadership allows that
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influence to affect their judgement and to affect what
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they are advocating for. That's what really bothers me.
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People are always going to try to, well, that's happening,
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influence the United States of America, whether they're allies
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of ours or whether they're enemies of ours.
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Again, when I open up the pages of Time magazine and I see that
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there's a literal foreign influence campaign being funded
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to tank the very deal that I was pursuing.
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And oh, by the way, many of the people who were receiving that
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money were actually attacking me in completely dishonest ways.
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You know, my response to that is we'll go to hell.
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I'm going to do what I have to do for the American people.
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I represent Americans 1st. And that's the way that I've he
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represents the Epstein. Class 1st tried to to.
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Do this job, but then. What's funny is I think that I
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understand that what JD Vance's his existence is for his
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existence right now is to round out Trump politically, right?
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So Trump is like just a fucking super pro Israel cum guzzler,
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fuck pedophile, whatever. Vance exists to be like, maybe
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Israel isn't the greatest thing in the world.
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The idea is like, OK, I don't like Trump, but I think I like
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this Vance guy and I still like the Conservative Party.
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I think that that's like the Trump strategy.
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Hey, Vance, I want you to take the there's no perspective that
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Vance publicly has that is not Donald Trump's perspective or
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like, Hey, I need you to do this.
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And optically it makes a little bit of sense.
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I mean, if you wanted to do something really fucking stupid,
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you know, it's like you could have two different people exist
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in like the same atmosphere than just like different attractions
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to things, right? Like we were talking almost
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before, like you asked me about Dean Withers.
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Like Dean Withers is there then there's like there's space for
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Dean Withers for like young people who want to be, you know,
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politically and debate active and blah, blah, blah, blah.
19:42
And there's a space for like a fat guy that reacts to videos
19:43
who's oh so sexy and like handsome.
19:46
And he's like in terminally online spaces as but not as
19:49
terminally online, right? The difference is that Trump and
19:52
Vance are like right next to each other.
19:54
But that's kind of the marching order.
19:55
That's the idea. That's the strategy, right?
19:58
And. Whenever he's asked if he agrees
19:59
at the war, he says he backs Trump's decisions and Iran can't
20:03
have a nuke. So he can't go all the way, but
20:06
I'm sure when he runs in 2028, he'll claim he's always against
20:09
the war and that's why he's being attacked for it.
20:12
So it might make it easier for him if all the war Hawks turn on
20:14
him because people look at that like he must be doing something
20:18
right. I mean, to prove he's a
20:19
reasonable moderate on Israel, he says he's been called an anti
20:23
Semite, which at this point is like a badge of honor.
20:26
And so I think he mentions this to be like, see, I'm not an
20:29
Israel side of America first and I'm being called an anti Semite
20:32
for it. But people aren't, they feel
20:35
like this is forced. And I think even Rogan kind of
20:37
believes that too, because he questions JD twice about what
20:41
he's Rogan. Rogan literally is a Coco melon
20:43
white person. He just he's like whatever's in
20:46
front of his face. He's like OK this thing and then
20:48
he forgets about it like a 2 seconds later.
20:49
Like he was on an entire stint of just not talking about
20:51
Epstein with any of the Epstein class that came on Rogan.
20:54
He's like fucking insane. He said to be.
20:57
Called that and JD doesn't really have a response.
21:00
So I think honestly, he might be saying this as a tactic to try
21:03
to convince people that he's really America first and I, you.
21:07
Know Joe the crazy thing is I'm like people don't realize this
21:11
I'm actually in this you know there's this massive pro Israel
21:16
anti Israel debate in the United States of America I'm like the
21:20
reasonable moderate me too and I think that's what so many people
21:23
this is what I've. Been saying, you know what I
21:24
mean? It's like we have this whole
21:26
entire debate about Israel, Palestine, and it's like, you
21:28
know, I think Israel has the right to exist, right?
21:31
And I think that that's reasonable.
21:33
But on the other hand, I also think it's completely
21:35
appropriate that Israel constantly goes different wars
21:38
and the surrounding areas and just genocides Palestinians.
21:40
And I'm kind of right in the middle of that where it's like,
21:43
yeah, Israel should exist, but they should be nicer.
21:46
You know what I mean? I'm just like a both sides guy.
21:49
I do think Israel can exist, but it's fucking atrocious the shit
21:51
that they do over there, especially since we're giving
21:53
them so much money, you know what I mean?
21:55
You know, if we weren't giving them money and they were doing
21:57
this shit, it's still inappropriate.
21:58
But like, I'm not tied to it. But I, I have, I, you know, I
22:01
have these hard earned tax dollars that I, I make by
22:03
sitting down and, and watching, reacting to other people's
22:07
content. And it's like, damn, my money's
22:08
going over there. That's fucking bazookers.
22:12
Can I tell you one thing that's been pissing me off, though?
22:13
I don't know what the fuck's going on.
22:15
I have exclusively gotten bans on my my videos taken out of
22:20
TikTok that are within the vicinity of criticizing things
22:25
related to Jewish people. OK, like they did this whole
22:29
thing where any mention of Nick Fuentes, even if it's negative,
22:31
which I don't like Nick Fuentes, you get your video taken out, a
22:33
bunch of videos taken out of that just because that policy.
22:36
Then I made a, a simple joke. I I didn't say it.
22:39
There was just a guy, he wasn't even Jewish at all.
22:43
He was acting a little entitled. And I was like, oh, this guy
22:46
felt like this was promised him 3000 years ago.
22:49
Take that down. OK.
22:51
And then I, I made, I called Ben Shapiro a coward and they took
22:54
that down. You know, it's like, what the
22:56
hell is some is something going on?
23:00
It's like, is there, is there like a is like a Zionist owned
23:03
TikTok right now? I don't know.
23:06
I don't know. But I have almost 1,000,000
23:08
followers and I'm on a band warning.
23:09
So it's like, what the fuck, you know, But I don't think that
23:13
they do have influence on that. I don't know.
23:16
It was bought by Larry Ellison. Damn.
23:18
OK, so apparently Larry Ellison, a guy who likes Israel a little
23:21
bit, whatever company he's part of, Oracle owns 80%, eighty
23:28
point 1% of the of the US entity for TikTok.
23:31
OK, wow, that's incredible. Yeah, he has very deep personal
23:36
and professional connection to Israel.
23:37
This is fucking crazy, dude. This is fucking crazy, dude.
23:41
People don't. Realize is you know, I've been
23:45
accused of being an anti semite. True, I've been accused.
23:48
Been accused for what reason? Quite literally.
23:51
For I I've been accused of trying to I guess some people
23:54
say that I've insulted the Jewish religion, which is
23:57
insane. Like I like I have a ton of
24:00
respect for the Jewish religion. I mean, I'm guilty of that by.
24:03
The way you know what's so funny?
24:06
Just kidding. You know what's funny?
24:07
I saw a TikTok today. It was a it's like a Muslim guy.
24:10
And I guess he had, I don't, I don't know what it's called, but
24:13
he went to a gym and he had like a, it's a religious symbol, but
24:17
it was like a knife, right? And he walked into the gym and
24:20
they, I think it was a Planet Fitness or something.
24:21
And they, they asked him to leave and he's like, Oh, you
24:24
know, you're being basically racist against me for my
24:26
religion or whatever, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
24:28
And the people in the comments are divided.
24:30
The one some people are being, Hey, it's a knife, which I agree
24:32
with. It's a fucking knife, regardless
24:33
of whether it's religious or not.
24:35
And then there's other people that are like, Oh, it's a
24:37
religiously protected thing. And then I'm just sitting here
24:39
thinking, I'm like, we give way too many concessions to
24:41
religious people, regardless of the religion.
24:43
And we should have some like you should be able to build a mosque
24:46
or a church or a temple or whatever, you know what I mean?
24:51
And and you should be given some concessions for your holiday and
24:53
you should be able to pray whenever you need to pray during
24:55
the day. And I can, I can appreciate the
24:56
ones that aren't really any meaningfully negative influence
25:00
on the country. But like if you bring a knife to
25:03
a place, maybe you can't do that if the business doesn't want you
25:07
to do it. And just to be clear, like this
25:10
isn't like a dog whistle to say that like, because I don't think
25:13
Muslim people are bad. You know, we have an entire
25:15
country that Christianity was used to vote into vote in the
25:21
pedophile rapist Trump that's destroying the country and
25:23
taking food out of the mouths of children to insert something
25:26
else in there. So it's actually disgusting, you
25:28
know, you know, Islam isn't even close to as destructive in
25:31
America as, you know, Christianity and just religion
25:34
in general. But it's the least destructive
25:36
one in America. I wouldn't even say it's
25:37
destructive at all, frankly. It has like no influence, but I
25:40
do think that like in general there like what fucking
25:42
concessions should you really be making?
25:44
Like how many concessions This is a it's a country that you
25:47
have the ability to to practice your religion safely.
25:49
Having a knife isn't safe. It's a weapon.
25:52
You know, you won't have it at home.
25:54
I think that's perfectly fine. If you're a temple or whatever
25:57
or a mosque or whatever it is wants you, allows you to have
25:59
that or the business allows you to have it in there.
26:00
I think that's perfectly fine, you know, but I don't know, man.
26:04
There has to be like a line drawn.
26:06
And I think that religious people in general are sometimes
26:10
entitled. They're entitled, you know what
26:14
I mean? So I think that this was like an
26:16
example of that for specifically.
26:19
Did you say they don't know? I've never heard the good
26:22
compelling argument for why I'm an anti semite even though I've
26:25
been accused of being an anti semite by many people.
26:28
But it's it's funny how Joe. Rogan's like, actually pushing
26:31
back against his conservative guests.
26:32
It it what? Always what I say to these guys
26:36
is look at public opinion. Right now, Israel is losing the
26:42
public opinion battle in the United States of America.
26:44
It is a simple and obvious fact that is true.
26:47
Is that like your number 1234 and five for not liking Israel?
26:50
I'm so confused because they're winning.
26:51
They're they're losing the public opinion.
26:54
That seems strange. Donald Trump has said that.
26:55
Publicly, it's a simple and obvious fact.
26:59
Well, let me finish this point because, OK, my attitude is
27:02
towards this is Israel is an ally like France or like the
27:07
United Kingdom. We're going to have
27:09
disagreements with them. We're going to have agreements
27:11
with them. There are areas where we're
27:13
going to have similar interests and areas where our interests
27:15
are going to diverge. And he says Israel.
27:17
'S an ally with Wow. He's touching.
27:19
The wall dude. Oh, the bazookers.
27:22
I don't think the. America First crowd likes the
27:23
year and I think even Tucker Carlson doesn't think they
27:26
should be an ally. Then also after JD gets done
27:29
complaining about Israel SAP, well it makes sense to have.
27:31
Israel as an ally, they are like a basically a hub in the Middle
27:34
East for us to be able to get different information from.
27:36
But they shouldn't be able to do whatever the fuck they want over
27:38
there. It's pretty crazy.
27:39
So I'm tajing any. Kind of peace.
27:41
That's why they have so much like.
27:43
Influences because like they are like our hub over there.
27:45
We don't really have any other like super strong allies like
27:48
Israel. So they kind of do whatever they
27:49
want because they know that if we disconnect from them, then we
27:51
lose access to, like, you know, information over there, talks
27:55
Rogan. Starts pressing him on Israel's
27:57
influence. Yeah, fucking album cover.
27:59
Carlson. Doesn't think they should doing
28:01
any kind of peace talks. Rogan starts pressing him on
28:04
Israel's influence on American politics and JD after
28:08
complaining about their influence now tries to downplay
28:10
it and is like well a bunch of countries influence us that's
28:13
just how it works. He also says American.
28:15
He's generally. Right about that, like I
28:18
understand what he's saying. What he, what he said before was
28:21
like a lot of Hunter shadow influenced us.
28:22
I don't necessarily care about that.
28:23
That's part of the game. It's that if people give them
28:25
too much charity, I agree with that, Israel gets too much
28:28
charity. So like he's just saying a
28:29
thing, you know what I mean? And I think that's what the the
28:32
point, I guess he's trying to make.
28:34
But again, he doesn't actually care like what he's saying, even
28:36
if he believes it, he's only saying it because Trump is
28:38
letting him say it because it's a strategy to have a faction of,
28:43
you know, MAGA, literal MAGA, like the presidency.
28:46
That's like, oh, a little less pro Israel and then one that's
28:50
more pro Israel, which is Trump, very pro Israel.
28:52
So like the idea is like even if you start to shift away from
28:55
Trump, instead of shifting towards somebody on the left,
28:58
you start to shift towards just somebody else with and the Trump
29:01
apparatus. That's the point of what's what
29:03
they're saying here should be upset with.
29:04
Leaders who are affected by Israel's influence, which I
29:07
mean, Donald Trump I think definitely is, but you're saying
29:11
the. Religion as a whole, not people
29:12
who misuse it. I don't care.
29:13
I understand what you're saying. Like I think that I understand
29:16
what you're saying. Like I gave like a pretty big
29:19
criticism on religion as a whole before and you're like, well,
29:21
it's not really religion as a whole.
29:22
It's people who are misusing it. I understand what you're saying.
29:25
What I, this is my thing, is that like, I don't give a fuck.
29:30
I don't care. There's a lot more energy
29:32
against me for criticizing the way that religion is used to
29:35
rape and oppress women, children and LGBTQ and gay trans people,
29:40
all these different types of people.
29:42
There's more criticism against me for calling that out when it
29:45
was voted into office than there is against the people who were
29:48
voted into office. So, like, personally, I don't
29:51
care. I think religion at its most
29:53
extreme, which is like the literal interpretation, is a
29:56
book of abuse. If you look at it, it was more
29:58
of just like a book of some morals that it's open up to.
30:01
Like kind of like, oh, like a relative like relativism where
30:03
you're like, OK, I can draw some good stuff out of it, that's
30:06
fine. But like less energy for me,
30:09
more energy for thee. All right?
30:10
Like go fucking tell them and go yell into the atmosphere.
30:13
I'm not super concerned with like regulating my language to
30:16
make sure that the people who are religious that don't call
30:20
out the horrific oppressive system are like super on like
30:23
with me. Like I don't have energy for it.
30:25
You can criticize me for that if you want.
30:27
I don't care. I'd like very turned off to
30:29
religious people in general because there's a lot of
30:34
religious people in my life that are good people.
30:36
They voted for the rapist. They voted for the destruction
30:41
of our country. And they're stupid, you know
30:46
what I mean? And I love them, but they're
30:50
stupid as fuck. So, you know, I have very little
30:54
energy and I don't really feel like regulating my language
30:57
because I think that the entire, the, the, at the end of the day,
31:00
good religious people are people who don't take it, who don't
31:03
take it as literally or seriously.
31:05
Good religious people, like they know that it's just like a bunch
31:09
of stories, but it feels nice and that they believe in a God
31:12
or Jesus, but like they don't really think the Bible is 100%
31:15
true and that there are people who've taken over the Bible.
31:17
You know what I mean? Like Bible, the the any, any
31:19
religious text in his purest form is abuse, right?
31:24
So that's kind of how I feel. So I just don't have any energy
31:26
to like care about the good religious people.
31:31
They're the ones that support the bad religious people.
31:34
Most of the people in his administration, so I guess JD
31:37
thinks we should be upset with them, Why is Israel?
31:39
Losing American public opinion? Well, the narrative is.
31:42
That Israel has a very disproportionate effect on
31:46
American politics. Yeah, I see that I.
31:48
See that narrative? I mean the narrative.
31:50
Is true I actually. Think that again.
31:54
It's true. It's.
31:54
Because they are a hub in the Middle East and they give us
31:57
like information out there. I get it, we want to have a nice
32:00
hub in the Middle East. Like I understand why, but they
32:01
still get away with a ton of shit.
32:03
They. Look, do they try to influence
32:07
American politics? Yes.
32:08
But like I said earlier, a lot of other countries do.
32:11
I think some they they do. It really, well, like just to be
32:14
clear, like Thomas Massie, what was a conservative, a Republican
32:19
that was like criticizing Trump for not releasing the Epstein
32:22
files. So like different Israel packs
32:25
and Trump raised like $42 million in an area that raises
32:28
like maybe a half a million to 1,000,000 and got him out
32:31
barely. What the fuck extent that
32:34
Israel? Does some are better at it?
32:36
Than others. I think the Israel's are
32:37
definitely more effective at it than most, but I wouldn't say
32:39
that they're the only effective country by any means that tries
32:42
to influence American politics. But it's more.
32:45
Than that the concern is that they're spying on American
32:48
politicians, that they're there's there's, there's.
32:53
I've never heard these. Before, but I mean, maybe
32:54
there's other is there people that think that they might be
32:56
spying and have dirt on them turns.
32:58
About funding, there's concerns about influence, there's
33:01
concerns about whether or not politicians are, whether they're
33:06
aligned with Israel or whether they're aligned with the United
33:08
States first. Well, there's.
33:10
Certainly like, well, the Bible doesn't help.
33:13
Because the Bible says that like Israel is like the Holy Land for
33:17
for Jewish people and that they can basically do whatever the
33:20
fuck they want. At least that's how that's how
33:22
religious politicians we don't use it.
33:25
I definitely get. Those concerns, but my sense is
33:28
that the way that all foreign influence works in the United
33:31
States is people try to manipulate American public
33:35
opinion and then from manipulating a public opinion,
33:38
they try to get the outcomes that they want and this thing
33:40
like. Like how?
33:41
Like how Russia did that in 2016 to get Trump elected?
33:44
Yes, which is a fact. It's a fact.
33:47
And it's also a fact that Trump obstructed the Mueller
33:50
investigation so that they couldn't come to the conclusion
33:52
that Trump did collude with Russia because that also almost
33:55
definitely happened. So OK is a very.
33:58
Good example of this. That's why Trump was happy that.
34:00
Mueller was died. You know that there have been.
34:03
People within the Israeli government who are trying to
34:06
like, actually shift us away from that policy because they
34:11
want to continue the military campaign.
34:14
And by the way, like there are people within their government
34:15
that I love, I have good relationships with.
34:17
But I guess what I would say, he loves the wall.
34:20
To the they love the wall so much they want to build 1 here
34:23
isn't that beautiful where what happened to that by the way,
34:25
what happened to the building the wall like that is a little
34:28
bit strange, just like remember Trump's like we need to build
34:31
the wall we need to build the wall, we need to build the wall.
34:32
Then he came in and he just shut down the the asylum seeking
34:35
process and now everything's fine.
34:36
So like, I don't think that that's a good policy because I
34:39
think that you should have more robust immigration policy,
34:41
especially for asylum seekers, because we do have negative
34:43
impacts on countries around the world and we destabilize their
34:46
governments to take to take their resources and whatnot.
34:49
But I mean, if just shutting down the asylum seeking process
34:52
had it was easy said than done, why did he ever need to run on
34:55
building a wall? Why did we ever need to do that?
34:58
Unless he was trying to give businesses that he was buddy
35:01
buddy with a contract to build a wall the same way that he did
35:06
that with the reflecting pool that failed almost
35:08
instantaneously. So it sounds like the wall was
35:12
nothing more from Trump than a way to basically I don't know
35:17
what for the word embezzle money would work.
35:19
What is, is the right term but basically just give money to
35:22
someone of his buddies for a contract because it was not
35:25
about $5 billion that that wall was estimated over $100 billion
35:30
to build. And that was probably not even
35:32
true because there were so many things that you had to to be
35:34
concerned with, like environmental issues and, and
35:36
all these other things. I don't know, dude, I don't
35:39
know. I don't know.
35:41
It's all coming together. The Americans who.
35:43
Sort of see this and are frustrated by it.
35:44
My attitude would be you should be frustrated at American
35:47
leaders who you are, you know, persuaded by this, affected by
35:53
this. Countries.
35:55
Are going to do what countries do I really don't.
35:56
It doesn't bother me. The Qatar tries to influence the
35:58
United States of America and they do.
36:00
I like a lot of the. Shouldn't it bother you?
36:02
Though like you should be like it bothers me, but it is what it
36:04
is. Is different from like it
36:05
doesn't even bother me. It's fine.
36:06
Or is just. Like, I like a lot of the
36:08
Israelis. Doesn't bother me that Israel
36:10
tries to do this. Frankly, doesn't even bother me
36:12
that Russia or some of these other countries do it.
36:14
It's just the nature of being a political leader in 2026 and
36:19
whenever it seems. Like he's breaking with Trump,
36:21
then he has to go back to defending his decisions.
36:24
But you tell he definitely wants to separate himself from this
36:26
stuff. But obviously he's the vice
36:28
president, so he can again these.
36:31
Are all the orders that Trump gave him anything that he's
36:33
saying was vetted by Trump? So.
36:35
But he's trying. To set things up so in 2028.
36:37
What a beautiful. Picture I love this picture.
36:39
He looks like he's got the room for a little weenie in his
36:41
mouth. It's not so nice a little Trump
36:44
weenie. I love that he can convince.
36:47
People, he was always against the war and he'll probably blame
36:49
Israel for it, but right now he's lost the back Trump and
36:52
can't go too hard on Israel, so he's in a really tough position.
36:55
What the hell, Trump? Was like shit edition.
36:58
And Rogan's questions here are making it difficult for him to
37:01
blame Israel when he runs in 2028, because Rogan gets him to
37:05
say that going to war with Iran was totally Trump's decision.
37:08
Israel didn't influence him to do it at all.
37:10
You think that? Israel is affecting American
37:13
political judgement. I mean.
37:22
That's a good point, I like how the countries he mentioned were
37:24
all the ones supporting the right.
37:25
That's true. Like what do you think about
37:26
China influencing the election? Because that seems to be more,
37:29
more pro China sentiment on the left.
37:32
But he's OK with like Qatar and Israel and all these like other
37:34
countries that are more right leaning.
37:36
But what about what about China? What about Russia?
37:39
Because again, Russia's more right leaning and they they they
37:42
basically helped secure the win for Trump in 2016.
37:45
I certainly think. That there are a lot of talking
37:51
points and there are a lot of arguments that make their way
37:55
into American political discourse.
37:57
Do I think that it's been dispositive on any particular
38:00
issue like like, I think that's a much more difficult question.
38:03
You think that we. Would have started this war in
38:06
Iran without the influence of Israel.
38:08
Of course not. I think.
38:10
The president, completely separate from any influence from
38:15
Israel, believes very strongly, and again, I agree with this,
38:18
that Iran should not have a nuclear weapon, right.
38:22
Sure, but the but he's he's dodging the answer.
38:25
Lindsey Graham rest in piss. He was a massive, massive push
38:31
to getting Trump to attack Iran and and you know for Israel like
38:37
this is you know, it's it's so fucking stupid.
38:39
Who the fuck believes any of this nonsense?
38:40
Of course, of course, like and to be honest with you, I think
38:45
that part of the reason that Trump was willing to do it is
38:47
because it's a headline just distract from the Epstein files.
38:50
But I think he was willing to do things.
38:52
Bombed him in June, right? That was the initial attack,
38:56
right? June of last.
38:57
Year. Yeah.
38:58
Midnight Hammer. Yeah, right.
39:00
Do you think? He would have continued with the
39:03
most recent campaign if it wasn't for the influence of
39:06
Israel. Yes, I.
39:07
Really. I do.
39:08
Yeah. I don't know about that.
39:10
Maybe. I mean, why do we pull out all
39:13
the nuclear deal with Iran in the first place?
39:16
Or if they were following orders, they were following the
39:18
rules. So, like, it sounds like Trump
39:20
wanted to basically kicked the can down the road.
39:22
He created a situation as far as presidency that would allow him
39:24
to attack Iran if you needed to Look, I mean, I, I.
39:27
Think so this. Discussion about the Iran war
39:30
went pretty badly for him and then right after this they get
39:33
into the Epstein files, which of course goes even worse.
39:36
JD brings up how people think Trump is blackmailed by Israel
39:39
to go to war with Iran, which he says is completely ridiculous,
39:43
but also he believes the Epstein file conspiracy theories and
39:46
alludes to Epstein working well. I don't think that that.
39:48
Is what it is. Maybe.
39:50
I don't think so, but I think that Trump is just a headline
39:52
distractor from Assad. And there being a blackmail
39:54
operation. So again, like with the Iran
39:56
war, he has to walk this tightrope where he appeases the
39:59
anti Israel conspiratorial crowd, but also he has to act
40:03
like Trump's administration isn't affected by Israeli.
40:06
At all and he doesn't understand why people would believe that.
40:10
It's also hilarious because he's an Epstein conspiracy theorist,
40:14
but he helped cover up the files and he knows well he's not a
40:17
real conspiracy. Theorist.
40:18
He's just like a pretend one to look like he's reasonable.
40:20
You know, there was a ton of people.
40:21
In there, which of course now he claims they just screwed up the
40:25
release like they have nothing to hide.
40:26
They wanted to put him out, but Pam Bondi just botched the
40:30
release. So yeah, of course, Pam.
40:32
Bondi botched the release, I think.
40:34
Pam Bondi. Is like the sacrificial lamb
40:36
horse, Yeah. 1000% that's what Trump does.
40:38
He does it all the time. JD blames.
40:40
Her for it maga absolutely hated her and she got fired so I think
40:44
they're trying to pin it on her now.
40:45
What? What I I?
40:46
Think a lot of people I've heard this argument is, is this idea
40:50
that Donald Trump, you know, was sort of.
40:54
I've even heard people say he was blackmailed into this.
40:56
Yeah. By the Israelis.
40:58
That's not true, dude. It's just it's dude.
41:00
That's not true dude. Just not true I've seen.
41:02
The decision making up close again and I'm.
41:04
Trustworthy Agree or disagree? Again, I don't believe.
41:08
This either, I mean, maybe I don't.
41:10
I just think that this was like a, it's a headline.
41:12
Trump is a rapist. He's in the Epstein files, dude.
41:14
He's done some fucked up shit in the Epstein files.
41:16
He doesn't want you to know about it though, so he's willing
41:18
to do whatever the fuck it takes.
41:20
That's why we attacked Venezuela, Iran.
41:23
That's why he's doing like crazy tariffs like you, you know, do
41:26
you guys ever like really just sit down and I want you to start
41:29
thinking about this moving forward.
41:31
Do you ever notice that once the Epstein files start getting
41:33
discussed again, all of a sudden we're in a new controversy?
41:36
Do you think that that's reasonable?
41:39
Or do you think that that's like just kind of by happening by
41:42
happenstance? Or do you think that Trump is
41:47
deciding to do other headline grabbers to distract your
41:50
sentiments away from the Epstein files?
41:52
And then when it shifts back to it, he's like another
41:55
controversy? That's what's going on.
41:56
That's what I think is going on or.
41:59
Whether you agree or disagree with a decision to launch the
42:02
campaign, epic fury to begin with, the idea that Donald Trump
42:07
is being like back blackmailed is crazy to me because again, I
42:13
I see the way that he makes decisions.
42:15
I see the way that he processes this stuff, like the idea that
42:18
he picks up the phone with anybody and said he doesn't
42:20
process. Anything.
42:21
The guy is a fucking moron. Trump has never uttered like an
42:24
intelligible sentence his entire life.
42:25
He has no reasonable policy. These there's never been like
42:29
there was 0 policy Trump ran on. He he didn't run on anything.
42:33
He ran onto a bunch of tariffs and stuff.
42:35
He had no actual policy. The guy doesn't think about
42:37
anything. I've seen Trump.
42:38
He's like basically the undertone is like Trump is a
42:41
super smart fucking guy. He's just a man.
42:43
Like just a fucking next level giggle brain intelligent guy
42:45
that does super intelligent decisions.
42:47
What the fuck says hey? Like I'm going to take orders
42:50
from you. No, that's just not how Donald
42:52
Trump operates. Can you?
42:53
Understand though why people would come to that conclusion,
42:57
especially because as the of the Epstein files.
43:01
What do you mean? Well, the Epstein.
43:02
Files were supposed to be released.
43:04
We were. And it was a tremendous amount
43:07
of resistance to those files being and just to be clear.
43:10
The files were only supposed to be released because Trump ran on
43:12
releasing it. He could have just not done that
43:13
and everybody would have been like, all right, whatever.
43:15
But Trump ran on it. He riled people up into being
43:17
like, this is a big problem, which it is, you know, and so
43:21
time to release it, baby released.
43:22
And that concerned a lot of people because if if you're
43:25
talking about very wealthy, powerful people that were
43:28
engaged in crimes, I had Trump specifically.
43:30
Too. I see.
43:31
I see. You're, you're basically saying
43:33
like there's a there. The fear is that whatever's in
43:35
the Epstein files. Yeah, Yeah, yeah, right.
43:37
A lot of rape, a lot of predators that are still exist.
43:40
Predators that Trump said will be hurt at Mar a Lago if he
43:44
releases it to Marjorie Taylor Green before ousting her from
43:46
the Republican Party. Yeah, there's a lot of bad shit
43:48
in there. Was used to blackmail.
43:50
Like the administration into doing the Iran thing or at the
43:53
very. Least I mean maybe, but I, I.
43:55
Think it's more that Trump just doesn't want to release it.
43:57
The people. That were involved in the
44:00
Epstein files, that didn't want them coming out had undue
44:04
influence. Well, well.
44:07
Again, like are. You going to say this with all
44:09
candor or like we absolutely screwed up the comms of the
44:12
Epstein? Was he like, not ready?
44:13
For this to to be asked or something like he had to have
44:16
been, he had to know that this was files.
44:19
Like we just did. Oh, that makes sense.
44:20
Oh. Oh dude, I totally understand
44:22
now. I totally get it.
44:23
It took me a while to understand Rogan doesn't give a fuck about
44:25
the Epstein files. Rogan.
44:28
If you guys have watched Rogan, he stays away from criticizing
44:31
any Epstein people like any of the Epstein class comes on RFK,
44:34
whoever else. He has been like avoiding
44:36
talking about it for a long time but now all of a sudden the
44:41
files are too big to ignore. So what does Trump do?
44:44
He sends his boy JD Vance to who he's right now the tactic is to
44:48
be a little less, a little less nice to Israel.
44:51
JD Vance, not Trump. He loves Israel to try to, you
44:53
know, keep MAGA. If they don't like Trump, at
44:55
least I like JD Vance. Go on, Rogan, ask him these
44:58
questions that are tough questions with no meaningful
45:00
pushback so that we can get a new narrative out here.
45:04
Oh, yes, I don't know. He.
45:06
Oh, yes. Oh, that's a very interesting
45:08
concern. Well, here's my bullshit answer
45:10
that everyone knows his fail 00. OK, yeah, you know what?
45:14
I'm AI have a traumatic brain injury.
45:17
It's all marching orders. The the the the strategy of
45:20
skepticism, the strategy of holding to task on the Epstein
45:25
files is nothing more than a strategy from Joe Rogan the
45:28
plant. I don't give a fuck if I sound
45:30
like a conspiracy theorist. This makes perfect sense to me
45:33
after watching Joe Rogan fluff Trump's balls in the softest
45:37
ballest interview I've ever seen in my entire life on Trump for
45:41
this last election. This guy is a fucking.
45:44
He is a fucking OP dude. He's a psyop dude.
45:47
There's no I I genuinely believe that.
45:50
Just saying saying sassy Bakas saying but.
45:55
Do I think the reason we screwed up the comms is because we were
45:58
trying to hide something? No.
46:01
I think the. Reason we screwed up the comms
46:03
of the Epstein files is is 1. You know Pam said.
46:06
Pam, Bondi said. Just fucking release it.
46:08
Idiot the the client. List is on my desk.
46:11
Let me try to let me try to different purpose of that.
46:14
Performative display? Just what's the fucking purpose?
46:17
Of this I don't even understand it right now.
46:19
Epstein files. And and she was saying there's
46:22
10s of thousands of hours of film, I think Pam.
46:27
Was trying to respond to the political moment.
46:29
I think she overstated what we had and what we didn't have.
46:31
So stupid. And I think we are we already.
46:33
Know that Trump told her to do whatever she did, and that's why
46:36
it went the way that it did. That she.
46:38
You know, got got roasted for it publicly by a lot of people,
46:41
including me. Like, you know, you know, I have
46:43
talked about this a lot. I'm like they.
46:45
Trump had her do her thing, and when it failed, he pointed the
46:48
finger at her and told Vance to do the same thing.
46:51
One of the. OG Epstein conspiracy theorists.
46:53
I've probably gone down every single the old rabbit hole.
46:56
We could go down most of them today.
46:58
So he tries. To explain to us how the Trump
47:00
admin. Wait, what did he just say?
47:02
I'm like. One of the OG Epstein conspiracy
47:05
theorists I probably. So to be clear, I think we're,
47:10
I, we're kind of at a point where is there any Epstein
47:12
conspiracies anymore or, you know, outside of how he passed,
47:19
What's the conspiracy here? Well, there's no more
47:22
conspiracies. We already like.
47:23
We pretty much know everything's fucked.
47:25
I don't know, even calling it a conspiracy seems it seems
47:28
intentional, almost like a downplay, like a conspiracy is
47:31
like not true, right? Like it's like, oh, that's my
47:33
conspiracy, guys. It's just, it's just my
47:35
conspiracy, you know, I don't know, to explain to us.
47:39
How the Trump administration had nothing to hide with the Epstein
47:42
files, and we can trust him because he claims to be an
47:45
expert on Epstein conspiracy theories.
47:48
You know, that's how he gives himself credibility in which, I
47:50
mean, I guess he did try to cover him up.
47:52
He has access to all the files and he knows a ton of people who
47:55
were close to Epstein who he works with everyday.
47:58
So he should know a lot about him.
47:59
But of course, what the hell is he going to tell us?
48:02
Him and Rogan are in way too deep and they're just being used
48:05
to do damage control over it. Look.
48:07
Oh dude what? A what a picture.
48:10
Joe just looks so natural here. He just looks like he's trying
48:13
to, he looks like Joe looks like he's trying to pick like out of
48:17
lobster, Red Lobster. But he's just so confused
48:18
around. Like he sees that there's like
48:21
10 lobsters in the tank, but like one of them is off to the
48:23
side and he's like, why is that? Why is this one off to the side?
48:27
Why does this one look a little more yellow?
48:28
Did did CNN paint it? He'll get there one day.
48:42
I want to pick this one. He'll get there one day.
48:45
You'll get there one day. Buddy, You're so close.
48:47
You're so fucking close so it's hilarious.
48:49
Because they try to talk about this like they're just two
48:52
random guys on the Internet discussing it.
48:54
It's just a guy. Well, this is.
48:55
Joe Rogan's a cool guy podcast. His cool Average Joe podcast
48:58
guys cool. Just to be clear, Joe Rogan's
49:01
podcast is Facebook. That's pretty much it.
49:05
Joe Rogan's podcast is Facebook. It's like you saw something on
49:09
Facebook that said Tim Walz was bad.
49:12
Oh look, that Tim Walz dancing cringe.
49:14
Turns out it's AI. Well, it's something he would
49:15
do. Trump's in the Epstein files.
49:18
I don't know. I don't really agree with that.
49:20
My, my, my feelings are taking over my facts, guys.
49:24
You know, like they aren't. Associated with a ton of people
49:26
in the files. Like on one hand they admit
49:28
Epstein ran a child's trafficking ring for the elites.
49:31
And there's definitely more to the story than we know.
49:33
And Trump, definitely. Was involved 1515 years friends
49:36
with with Epstein. Come on.
49:37
But yeah, they know. A bunch of those elites, and
49:39
they just. Ignore or defend?
49:40
Their connections to Epstein, like JD claims.
49:43
He's gone down every rabbit hole.
49:44
I've got it. So I wonder what he thinks of
49:46
Howard Lutnick going to the island and lying about it and
49:49
Trump keeping him around as secretary of Commerce.
49:52
You guys have to. Understand something about why
49:55
the Epstein files have been successfully covered up despite
49:58
the fact that like, we know Trump is in it and there's an
50:00
Epstein class that Trump is part of and is defending.
50:04
You're not going to like this. It's fucking religion, dude.
50:08
Listen again. I was raised religious, but when
50:11
you centralized your entire worldview around faith, and I
50:16
think that faith has a place, but when you centralized it all
50:18
around faith, you are the most susceptible to misinformation
50:23
because you've decided that your primary switch is whether you
50:26
want to believe something is true or not.
50:29
Again, I have some kind of belief in God.
50:33
I don't know how IA 100% feel, but I have some kind of belief.
50:37
But the people who take the Bible like literally and
50:39
seriously and voted for Trump, they are faith operation.
50:42
Faith operation is believing something that is not explicitly
50:46
proven true. And when you take that, you can
50:50
drag that into anything. You can just decide to believe
50:53
something is or isn't true on a fucking whim because you've
50:56
decided to. Because he feels good.
50:58
Because religion teaches you, oh that feeling is God and that's
51:01
good. So if I feel good about
51:03
something, then it is good. People don't understand that the
51:07
way that they were taught religion, a lot of these people
51:09
who are who are very who are mog eccentric.
51:11
You were you were groomed into believing misinformation.
51:15
And if I want to get fucking super conspiracy brain, we take
51:17
that a step further. That's intentional.
51:19
There is a ruling class who's always been in control of the
51:23
way that religion is expressed and they've always tried to
51:26
control us in some way, shape or form.
51:28
Back in the day, you know, if you were a peasant person, you
51:32
weren't allowed to read the Bible.
51:33
You couldn't even understand the language of the Bible.
51:35
It's a huge controversy just getting it so that people were
51:37
allowed to read it themselves so that they can interpret it
51:39
themselves. And nowadays, I think it's just
51:42
a constant desire to destroy education so that people just
51:48
are fucking stupid and can't think for themselves and they
51:50
want other people to think for them.
51:52
That's what I think, man. So that's really why people are
51:55
falling for it. I don't think it's a conspiracy.
51:57
I mean, like, this is really just fact, but this is the
51:59
reality. And I think that you can believe
52:01
what I said and still have a belief in God.
52:04
But I mean, there has to be a spot where, like, I don't know,
52:06
I feel like the right way to think is like, hey, we live in a
52:08
world of facts, science, logic, and God created it.
52:12
And there are a bunch of assholes who weaponize the Bible
52:14
to try to take advantage of people.
52:16
I think that you can have that thought, but I don't think most
52:18
of these people do. I don't know.
52:22
Or what do you thinks? Of the whoa.
52:25
Letter that Trump. Wrote to Epstein that bizarre
52:27
birthday letter or Peter Thiel's connection to Epstein, of
52:30
course. Why is he always?
52:31
Like mogging when he's doing it. You know what the hell Brogan
52:37
would. Never ask any of those
52:38
questions. Also, JD used to say stuff like,
52:40
remember when we learned our wealthiest and most powerful
52:43
people were connected to a guy who ran a literal child's
52:46
trafficking ring? Then the guy died mysteriously
52:48
in jail and now we just don't talk about it.
52:50
But it's like, dude, you're connected to those powerful
52:52
people. So he kind of set himself up
52:54
here and like if him and the people around Trump and MAGA
52:57
didn't hype up the Epstein file theories and honestly probably
53:00
wouldn't have been a problem for them because the left didn't
53:02
really care about it until they realized it was a problem for
53:05
Trump. That's true.
53:06
I will say like, but I think that a lot of people on the left
53:09
were just like, actually, to be honest with you, I think a lot
53:11
of people in the United States didn't care about Epstein, which
53:16
sounds fucked up. But I think most people were
53:18
like, yeah, it's just fucked up. There's obviously a ruling
53:20
class. It is what it is.
53:21
There's something we can do about it.
53:23
And then Trump, to his credit, said, no, no, no, there is
53:26
something we could do about it. And if you vote for me over that
53:29
brown woman who won't even send me her dirty underwear, then I
53:35
will release this information. And then all of a sudden,
53:38
because this is what it is, people are like, wait a minute.
53:39
Holy shit. Like this guy is actually going
53:41
to do something about this pedophile ruling class?
53:45
Like how inspiring. Like, Oh my God, this thing that
53:47
I thought would never change, you're going to change that?
53:50
Holy fuck I'm going to vote for this guy.
53:52
Voted in, refused to release it because it turns out he was in
53:55
it turns out he was best friends that I've seen for a decade and
53:59
1/2 turns out he was go and admit that he would go and I
54:07
rape fucking girls at pageants because he owned the pageants so
54:09
he would go look at them naked And it's like well that's that's
54:11
part of their behavior. Turns out Trump is most likely a
54:13
pedophile rapist and it is in the files, but he won't release
54:16
it. You know what I mean?
54:20
So I mean, we, you know, that's what it is.
54:24
And now they're fucking frantic. And it's like, wait a minute,
54:27
what do we do? This guy, he ran on changing
54:30
things and then he won't change the thing.
54:31
He had such an inspiring message, and now he won't change
54:36
the thing. And I truly do wonder what was
54:37
going through Trump's mind. Like, did he not realize he was
54:40
in the files? Did he just think that he would
54:44
never have to be held to task? I don't.
54:47
I really don't understand it. But I do understand why people
54:50
would have voted for Trump over the Epstein files because it
54:52
feels like he did something that would never be able to be done
54:54
and now he's just not doing it because he is the number one
54:57
person in it. It's fucking insane.
55:00
I don't know, it's something to think about.
55:02
South MAGA shot themselves in the foot by making this a big
55:04
deal and JD still talks about it being a blackmail operation and
55:08
there being more to the story. But you know, blackmail
55:11
operation. All right, because the Democrats
55:12
existed for a while. So, you know, it must have been
55:15
everything was changed and written.
55:16
Oh, he's just the vice. President, so he doesn't
55:18
actually know, which is funny. Can Trump?
55:20
Just change things then if the if the Democrats get influenced,
55:22
what was inside of the if he follows, why can't Trump just do
55:25
that anything you. Know he acts like I love looking
55:27
into stuff, but I I don't know anything you guys don't.
55:30
I mean, sometimes he talks like he's just some guy on the
55:33
Internet doing research about Epstein and he's not the vice
55:36
president of the United States. Oh, stop.
55:38
Kamala didn't have anything interesting going on for her.
55:41
What a silly thing to say. I was making a joke about how
55:44
she wouldn't show us her dumpster saying that's stupid.
55:47
Right? Like you have to understand that
55:48
saying that's stupid. Kamala Harris was uninteresting.
55:50
Why does she have to be interesting?
55:53
She was going to do the same thing Biden did and Biden was
55:55
better than Trump. It's a fact.
55:57
Biden was like more consistent. He slowly got us out of COVID.
56:00
Our economy was decent by the end of his his run, even though
56:02
he he had to deal with Russia attacking Ukraine, you know,
56:07
Israel, Palestine, and he did a decent job.
56:09
Kamala's like, hey, guys, I'm going to do it.
56:11
I'm going to do the same thing as Biden, but but with blackface
56:16
on. And I'm like, all right, that
56:17
would have been better. But Trump was interesting
56:19
because he was fucking crazy. What does interesting doesn't
56:21
mean good? You know, interesting doesn't
56:25
mean good to me. That's a Coco melon behavior.
56:28
While Kamala Harris wasn't really interesting, so I voted
56:30
for Trump. He was interesting.
56:31
What the fuck does that mean? You know, like getting a gash on
56:35
your leg and then watching the doctor sell it up is
56:38
interesting. I don't want to get a gash on my
56:40
leg. You know what I mean?
56:44
Interesting. And that's one of the things
56:45
that I feel like is fucking insane.
56:48
I don't want. Politics shouldn't be
56:49
interesting, dude. Politics should be so fucking
56:52
boring. Politics should be like, oh,
56:54
like a couple of, you know, middle-aged guys going.
56:56
I think more taxes. Well, I think maybe less taxes,
57:01
but it's not. It's like we got to defend these
57:04
rapists versus maybe healthcare. It'd be nice if people could
57:09
live. Hey, no, we actually got to get
57:11
more money to billionaires. Politics is too interesting.
57:16
It shouldn't be so interesting. That is a big problem.
57:18
If you didn't like Kamala because she was not interesting
57:20
enough, you need to check yourself and you need to really
57:23
reconsider, like why you think that and why you need politics
57:26
to be interesting. It shouldn't be.
57:28
It should be very mundane, to be absolutely honest with you, but
57:31
it ain't. And that's because Donald Trump,
57:34
whoa, what the fuck? It's the problem is.
57:38
If you go back to the original investigation, it was designed
57:41
in a way that was way too narrow if there was a broader
57:45
conspiracy, and you know, my view is that there probably was.
57:49
The evidence that. Existed in 2007 that was the
57:52
opportunity to get so when you say there.
57:54
Probably was a broader conspiracy what exactly you're
57:57
saying? I think there are a few
57:58
different. Options I mean look man, I like
58:00
you could you know I could literally bro.
58:01
This is just like a. Control.
58:03
This is like a fucking psyop, Vance says something and then
58:06
Drogan's like, OK, elaborate on that.
58:08
Point that you want to elaborate on that you're ready to
58:10
elaborate on. OK, all right, OK, OK, all
58:15
right. Or you know what I mean.
58:16
Like that's how it feels and we've all learned it's just
58:20
about how I feel. Isn't that actually anything to
58:23
do with facts? So leave me the fuck alone.
58:27
I don't give a shit. I'm just kidding.
58:29
For real though, it does actually seem like that.
58:31
Two episodes about. This I've gone on down to every
58:33
rabbit hole. There's this funny New York
58:35
Times story that's somewhat true, somewhat false, but where
58:39
Susie Wiles, the White House chief of staff, says, well, we
58:41
know JD is a conspiracy theorist on this, like I am.
58:43
Actually, I've, I've gone down every, every rabbit hole here.
58:48
It's like the same thing. When she went ahead, we're
58:50
getting super terminal online. It's like I'm I'm on the left so
58:53
I can criticize, you know what I mean?
58:54
Well, I'm actually, I'm an expert in this field, like OK,
58:57
look, so there's the. Theory that whether it was
58:59
American Intel or foreign Intel that Epstein was sort of using,
59:06
Epstein was using sort of the the sex ring to blackmail rich
59:10
and powerful people. Probably it.
59:13
Was clear that he was trying to get like, yeah it.
59:16
Seemed like he was trying to get fucking juice on everybody.
59:18
He has a picture where like every person, like every
59:21
influential person at the time, what people to.
59:23
Get together on the island and meet at parties.
59:27
So there there was something he was doing where he was trying to
59:31
either influence people or compromise people.
59:35
Yeah. Duh, like and you know, on the
59:38
outside without all the the pedophile stuff, you know, maybe
59:40
it sounded cool to people. Oh, you can come here and you
59:42
can fucking, I don't know, bang a prostitute and your wife will
59:46
never know Bill Gates unless you get AIDS or something.
59:48
What did he get syphilis or some kind of STDI?
59:52
Don't know. Turns out who is all all rape
59:55
stuff and that's really bad so. It's not there's some sort of an
1:00:00
operation except for the snorkeling.
1:00:02
Most of it was snorkeling, kind of just having fun and jet
1:00:04
skiing that. Was going on there.
1:00:06
There is a. Story there, and you know I will
1:00:10
go to my deathbed believing there's a story there, but I
1:00:13
can't prove it and I, I promise you there's not some.
1:00:16
You could dude. You can.
1:00:17
Go and I'm pretty sure like all politicians can just like go and
1:00:20
read it or whatever. So you can just go and read it
1:00:21
and like you can just tell us what's in there.
1:00:23
Document that at. Least I'm hiding that allows us
1:00:26
to prove exactly what was going on, so it's just frustrating.
1:00:29
Listening to these two talk about this and act like, yeah,
1:00:31
we're into these conspiracy theories.
1:00:33
We're really trying to get to the bottom of things here.
1:00:35
So like, why don't you ask Donald Trump, Peter Thiel, Elon
1:00:38
Musk or Howard Lutnick? Like JD knows people that have
1:00:41
been to the island. So what does he think of Howard
1:00:43
Lutnick? Is he how to file?
1:00:45
Is he being blackmailed? But of course, Rogan and JD
1:00:47
don't actually care about any of this.
1:00:49
And they're basically part of the Epstein machine.
1:00:51
Like Epstein and Peter Teal were pretty close and in business
1:00:54
together, and Epstein encouraged Teal's journey into politics,
1:00:57
which JD Vance is a product of Teal.
1:01:00
So I don't think there's any chance he can separate himself
1:01:02
from Teal and Epstein. I mean, there you go, baby.
1:01:05
There you go. Proof that Papa Got is pretty
1:01:08
much always correct. So that's what I think.
1:01:13
I'm the smartest guy in the whole world.
1:01:16
Then I must be right. That's what I'm saying.
1:01:19
That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.
1:01:22
I mean, just look at the. Comments for this episode.
1:01:24
But he's trying to give himself credibility by saying he's a
1:01:27
conspiracy theorist and he knows there's more to the story and he
1:01:30
thinks Epstein was part of Israeli intelligence.
1:01:32
You know, that's like throwing a bone to the conspiracy theory
1:01:35
crowd boner. Well, most people think.
1:01:37
He was Mossad, yeah. Mossad or CIA or some other deep
1:01:41
state, whether in America or Israel or another country or
1:01:45
both, you know, look was he clearly had connections to the
1:01:51
upper, the highest levels of American intelligence.
1:01:54
He clearly had connections to the highest levels of Israeli
1:01:57
intelligence, in fact. And the Epstein thing is
1:01:59
interesting because as much as I know, you know, Prime Minister
1:02:04
Netanyahu, not a particularly popular person in the United
1:02:08
States of America right now, Epstein seemed to be connected
1:02:13
to the elements of the Israeli deep state that were left of
1:02:15
center, wasn't. Jolene Maxwell's father, didn't
1:02:20
he have deep connections to Israeli intelligence?
1:02:23
Yeah, I'm fucking looking it up right now.
1:02:24
I was like, yeah, this makes sense.
1:02:25
Where did I hear this before? The Ghislaine Ghane Maxwell?
1:02:30
What the fuck? Her asshole name is her father
1:02:32
was like very connected to Mossad.
1:02:34
At least this is what the everything says, all the
1:02:36
information says. So what the fuck, you know what
1:02:40
I mean? Like oh, do you think he already
1:02:42
had maybe had connections or I don't know.
1:02:43
What about the girl you married? Oh well, they probably don't
1:02:46
talk. Oh wait a minute, they probably
1:02:49
don't talk. What the fuck.
1:02:50
Like I've always found. That fascinating, fascinating.
1:02:53
It wasn't like he was super connected to the right of center
1:02:57
of Israeli politics. And I wonder why he'd.
1:02:59
Make that distinction. You know, probably so he could
1:03:02
admit Epstein was involved with Israel but not Netanyahu and the
1:03:05
Likud party. And so people don't think
1:03:07
gotcha. It was all the it's all.
1:03:09
It's the left in in Israel. I want more rights for people.
1:03:13
That's the problem. That's that's what he's saying.
1:03:14
I think Trump is being. Blackmailed by them.
1:03:16
Also, during this, Rogan mentioned how one of his former
1:03:18
guests try to get him to meet with Epstein, but he turned it
1:03:21
down. And JD is like, yeah, didn't he
1:03:23
already get in trouble at that point?
1:03:24
Rogan's like, yeah, that's what I was thinking.
1:03:26
But of course, their boss, Peter Thiel, was meeting with Epstein
1:03:29
after his first arrest. So they act like, I can't
1:03:31
believe people would want to meet with him.
1:03:33
But JD is vice president because of someone who is meeting with
1:03:37
Epstein while he was a convicted sex offender.
1:03:39
I had one of my guests. Try to get me to meet him?
1:03:41
Really. Yeah, when 2017?
1:03:45
See that that's. Crazy to me because at that
1:03:47
point he'd already gone down for at least one like sex abuse
1:03:50
thing. That was my position.
1:03:52
I'll show you. Well.
1:03:53
That's my position, guys. Look at him.
1:03:55
Oh, look at this guy. Oh, I love.
1:03:58
I love it. He looks like Trump on Epstein's
1:04:01
island right now. Rapist.
1:04:05
I'm. I'm kidding, guys.
1:04:07
I'm kidding. I'm kidding.
1:04:08
It never happened. It's Democrats.
1:04:09
It's all fake. Stop.
1:04:11
I'll show you the. Emails, OK, It's kind of,
1:04:13
they're kind of funny. I actually read them on stage.
1:04:15
You want to say OK? Fine, you can.
1:04:16
People can find. It yeah, I don't want to have
1:04:19
the guys already ruined. Sure.
1:04:21
But but it's. I googled it and I'm I'm like
1:04:24
what the fuck are you talking about?
1:04:27
What the hell? All of the, really.
1:04:28
Crazy shit happened from the 90s to 2007.
1:04:33
That's when he was at the peak of his power that.
1:04:37
Interesting. So the 1990s to 2007, let's just
1:04:40
look at this timeline of Donald Trump being friends of them.
1:04:42
Anyway, here's our timeline of of Epstein and Trump being BFFS.
1:04:46
Donald Trump and Epstein were social friends and associates
1:04:48
from the late eighteen, 1980s until around 2004 when they
1:04:52
experienced me falling out right.
1:04:54
So we just learned the peak was 1990s to 2007. 1980's the two
1:04:58
men met becoming neighbors in Palm Beach, FL OK in the 90s
1:05:02
they become closely associated regularly attending flash flashy
1:05:05
parties flying together on Epstein's private jets and
1:05:07
housing events OK in 2002 with New York magazine Trump called
1:05:12
Epstein A terrific guy OK and they fell out around 2004 you
1:05:19
know because of a dispute evolving Oceanside mansion OK so
1:05:24
for 14 of the 17 years where Epstein was in his peak, Trump
1:05:30
was best friends with the guy. Wow.
1:05:34
But guys you don't understand he broke up with him at a certain
1:05:37
point. So that means that Trump is all
1:05:39
of a sudden innocent of being a rapist in the web scene Files
1:05:43
course that. Course, that's when he was at
1:05:46
the peak of his power. That's when he hadn't yet gone
1:05:50
down on the sex abuse friends or.
1:05:51
Lovers scandal like. Maybe it's your point, right?
1:05:54
Even if you have some scumbags who are willing to introduce him
1:05:57
to Joe Rogan in 2017, there are a lot of Joe Rogan's, or at
1:06:00
least some who are going to say, wait a second, I'm going to
1:06:02
Google this guy and find out he's predator.
1:06:05
A lot did. A lot did.
1:06:06
That was really. Crazy.
1:06:07
A lot didn't, but some. Did.
1:06:08
And my point is that would limit his influence.
1:06:11
But if you go back to like the 1990's, the early 2000s, that is
1:06:17
the stuff I think that is like the black hole of the Epstein
1:06:21
saga. We don't.
1:06:21
This is just this. Is just whether he realizes it
1:06:24
or not, all he's doing is incriminating Trump.
1:06:27
That's all he's doing. That's literally all he's doing
1:06:31
and I don't think he realizes it because anybody with a half a
1:06:34
brain can realize that that's the exact timeline of when Trump
1:06:37
and Epstein were literal fucking biffles best friends for life.
1:06:45
But that friendship only lasted about 14 years, which is about
1:06:48
how old the girls were that Trump probably didn't do
1:06:51
anything to, of course, don't have nearly.
1:06:55
Enough from that era, and it probably doesn't.
1:06:57
Help that JD saying that because I mean, that's when Donald Trump
1:07:00
is good friends with Epstein and they're partying together and I
1:07:03
think he wrote him that really bizarre letter and nice.
1:07:06
What a beautiful picture. Beautiful 2002 I.
1:07:09
Believe, but it is probably true.
1:07:10
That's when Epstein was at his peak and I'm sure getting away
1:07:13
with some really dark shit which I doubt there's evidence of
1:07:17
anymore. I don't know why they keep that
1:07:18
around or there. Definitely.
1:07:20
Is enough in the files. That's why they're not releasing
1:07:22
it. If there was no evidence of it,
1:07:23
they wouldn't have. They would have just released
1:07:24
it. Or if it is around.
1:07:25
I'm sure not many people have access to it.
1:07:28
You know, I can't imagine the government just has that sitting
1:07:30
around available for people to stumble upon.
1:07:33
You know, at this point it has to have been destroyed or hidden
1:07:36
or only available to some really high level people like the
1:07:38
Rothschilds. So I think JD is probably right
1:07:41
about the pre 2007 stuff. But obviously I don't believe
1:07:44
that Trump's administration had nothing to hide.
1:07:47
I mean, we know for a fact Howard Lutnick had something to
1:07:49
hide. You know, he said he got creeped
1:07:51
out by Epstein and had nothing to do with him.
1:07:53
And he never this guy, this guy. Doesn't look like he would get
1:07:55
creeped out by anything gross. You know what I mean?
1:07:57
Look like this. This guy looks like he sniffs
1:07:58
shit. What the fuck are we talking
1:08:00
about? Guy literally sniffs on poops.
1:08:03
This guy pays people to give him poop, logs of poop and he just
1:08:05
sniffs on him. He goes.
1:08:07
He like, puts on like that old cartoon bib, like the checkered
1:08:10
cartoon bib and I was like a fucking fork and a knife and
1:08:12
just goes and sniffs on him. What the hell are you talking
1:08:14
about? Dude?
1:08:15
Look at this guy. We went to the island.
1:08:16
And then the files were exposed. He was out the island.
1:08:19
So Trump's administration definitely had something to
1:08:21
hide. And they clearly didn't want
1:08:23
those files out. Like Trump kept calling it a
1:08:25
hoax. He was really annoyed by it.
1:08:27
They tried doing that whole binder stun the DOJ
1:08:29
investigation, Look at this stuff.
1:08:32
All the aren't all these people Twitter fucking freak Coco melon
1:08:35
losers like libs A TikTok who just go on there and like harass
1:08:38
fucking cringe trans people sometimes.
1:08:41
Isn't that so funny? Isn't that like that's the
1:08:42
legacy of of libs of TikTok, by the way.
1:08:45
Hey, look, a cringe transverse into the thing.
1:08:47
Oh yeah, Oh, hey, this guy rapes kids.
1:08:50
I can't really see it though. What the hell?
1:08:54
No, I can't. They don't make money doing
1:08:56
that. I have some extreme opinions on
1:09:00
all the people that I'm walking out right now and Trump.
1:09:02
Turned on some of his biggest. Dude he looks like credible
1:09:06
there. What the fuck?
1:09:08
Like I'm watching the movie Obsession right now.
1:09:09
It's like Marjorie. Taylor Green because she wanted
1:09:12
it out. So JD's trying to rewrite
1:09:14
history here because this is how he'll try to spin it when he
1:09:17
runs in 2028. He'll say they actually had
1:09:20
nothing to hide. They just screwed up their
1:09:21
release because of Pam Bondi and and we actually should give him
1:09:24
credit because they did end up releasing a bunch of files,
1:09:28
right? So.
1:09:28
Like when people say has has what you've seen on the inside
1:09:31
make you think that the, you know, that Epstein never
1:09:34
blackmailed people or that Epstein never engaged in broader
1:09:37
sex trafficking? No, absolutely not.
1:09:39
You think that? Vance likes to watch his wife
1:09:41
get blackmailed. This is a joke you guys
1:09:45
understand scene and I've. Looked at most of the files is
1:09:48
I'm trying to keep. My, my jokes a little more on
1:09:50
the nose for people who are like conservatives because they don't
1:09:53
understand jokes unless they're racial slurs.
1:09:55
So I'm like, hey, this is a joke, you should laugh.
1:09:56
And they go ha ha ha, clap, clap.
1:09:58
You know what I mean? That there just wasn't
1:10:02
dispositive evidence. And if that dispositive evidence
1:10:05
ever existed, it was probably destroyed after 2006, 2007,
1:10:09
right? This is not true.
1:10:10
He's he's saying this so that you don't think there's anything
1:10:13
in the Epstein files. That's it, that's it.
1:10:17
That's like that's literally it. He's saying these things that
1:10:19
you think that it's all gone and there's just no reason to care
1:10:21
about the Epstein files anymore. That's the whole point now, like
1:10:23
again in. In our defence, yes.
1:10:26
Was there some, you know, bitching and moaning and was
1:10:28
there some back and forth? That's all that exists.
1:10:30
For dude, I'm telling you 4th. Yes, but there that we
1:10:34
eventually collected 6,000,000 documents as part of the effort.
1:10:40
The president, people say the president was forced into
1:10:43
releasing the documents. Like again, the idea that Donald
1:10:47
Trump could not have killed that legislation, especially with the
1:10:49
United States Senate is a joke. He absolutely could.
1:10:53
He's the one who started. The legislation, what are you
1:10:56
talking about? Killed it.
1:10:57
What? Did he do again the the.
1:10:58
Reason that there was legislation on Epstein in the
1:10:59
1st place is because Trump shot it to Congress.
1:11:02
He could have just released it. He didn't want to, so he shot
1:11:04
the decision to Congress hoping that Republicans would shoot it
1:11:07
down. This is very basic.
1:11:08
Oh, he actually said. No, we're going to release these
1:11:10
files. Never released the.
1:11:12
Files, he thought you know. He was annoyed by the story.
1:11:14
He was annoyed by the Democrats accusing him of doing things
1:11:17
bad, by the way. Like, do I think there is any?
1:11:21
I've never seen a single piece of credible, credible evidence
1:11:24
that the president of the United States engaged in wrongdoing
1:11:26
with minors. Ever.
1:11:30
What about majors? What about adults?
1:11:33
JD So the like. When the I.
1:11:38
Think that this is the most telling part of all that might
1:11:41
even be true. Maybe he never did anything with
1:11:43
children. What about adults?
1:11:46
Epstein wasn't just kids to me, this is an this is an admission
1:11:50
of guilt. This is plausible deniability
1:11:52
language. Well, I never saw anything in
1:11:55
the Epstein files of Donald Trump doing anything illegal
1:11:56
with minors, right. Minors know what about what
1:12:05
about what about adults? No, no minors.
1:12:11
I'm telling you like this is this is this is like the, this
1:12:15
is the, this is the deceptive language of of politicians.
1:12:18
The deceptive. So this is what The thing is,
1:12:20
people don't understand. Politicians don't like lie to
1:12:22
you. They just don't tell you the
1:12:24
truth, right. So what happens is that they
1:12:27
tell you a half truth like that sentence.
1:12:29
There's nothing in the obscene files that I've seen that
1:12:31
incriminates Trump when it comes to minors.
1:12:33
But that's possible to deny the building language.
1:12:36
But he's not talking about adult girls.
1:12:38
This is how they lie to you. You have to understand that when
1:12:40
you are being lied to, you are not being explicitly lied to.
1:12:43
You are most of the time. Most of the time you're being,
1:12:47
you're being directed in a certain way.
1:12:50
You're being told something in a way that most people would
1:12:53
interpret what he just said as Trump is completely innocent,
1:12:56
when technically he's just saying Trump is innocent from
1:12:58
molesting children. That's it, right?
1:13:02
That's how politicians lied to you.
1:13:05
It is a form of lying, but it is not more explicit lying.
1:13:08
It is plausible deniability. Lawyer talk.
1:13:10
You guys need to keep this in mind and you need to, you really
1:13:13
need to media train yourself or train yourself to be able to
1:13:15
detect these things because that's how all the different
1:13:17
news outlets do. And once you can identify the
1:13:20
pattern, it's easy to watch news and like hear something and go
1:13:23
like, OK, I have to look into this because this might be
1:13:25
wrong. So that you can actually learn
1:13:28
to parse through different like media representations to be able
1:13:31
to get to the truth. This is fucking preposterous.
1:13:33
President says. The hoax, that's what he's
1:13:36
talking about is this democratic idea that he somehow was a was a
1:13:39
pedophile. It's absurd.
1:13:41
There's no evidence. There's nobody saying he.
1:13:43
Was a pedophile. We're saying he is a pedophile.
1:13:45
OK, that's a difference. All right now all.
1:13:47
Right. The Epstein.
1:13:49
The Epstein, you know, Yeah, I grew out of it at. 60, you know,
1:13:53
is that the claim? Yeah.
1:13:54
You know, when I was 60, this was a few years ago, I was into
1:13:57
kids. But now I'm an adult, It's you
1:13:59
know what I mean? Once I turned 61 I was like what
1:14:02
the hell? 61 in the reverse is 16.
1:14:05
I'm basically an adult now. Because that's what people like
1:14:07
Trump think Trump think. They think 16 year olds are
1:14:09
adults. So law gets.
1:14:11
Signed we find 6,000,000 documents.
1:14:14
We find out three million of them are actually responsive.
1:14:16
Has something to do with the Epstein estate.
1:14:18
We release all of them with the exception of a few things that
1:14:21
are like damn really shit dude. Everything was fucking heavily
1:14:24
redacted. You know they waste.
1:14:25
You know how much black ink they wasted?
1:14:27
It's fucking crazy. That's why conservatives didn't
1:14:30
even read it, because it was so scary to see so much black
1:14:32
inside the Epstein files. That's what it was.
1:14:34
If the courts have said that, we have to.
1:14:36
Redact certain things, we can't release certain files the the.
1:14:39
Courts, but like we. Did release all these files?
1:14:43
Did it take longer than it should have taken?
1:14:45
They didn't release all the files.
1:14:46
Yes. But we did.
1:14:48
They did not release. All the files release these
1:14:50
files. And again, the the problem here
1:14:53
is not like anything that's in the files or not in the files.
1:15:00
The problem is if you go back to the original investigation, it
1:15:03
was designed in a way that was So yeah, this.
1:15:06
I'm pretty sure like only like 1 to 2% of the total day, like the
1:15:09
data files were released. I'm pretty sure it's not even
1:15:11
he's like half of it was released.
1:15:12
I don't think so. I don't think that's true at
1:15:15
all. Like 1 to 2% of like the total
1:15:17
information, the total data seized was released.
1:15:19
So I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
1:15:20
It was way too. Narrow if there was a broader
1:15:24
conspiracy and you know, my view is that there probably was so
1:15:28
based on this. Podcast J DS.
1:15:29
Chances for 2020? 8 aren't looking too great.
1:15:32
You know it's to be really difficult for him to shake this
1:15:34
stuff he'll probably have Tucker Carlson and obviously Rogan on
1:15:37
his side but even Tucker I don't think he'll be able to get the
1:15:41
anti Israel crowd on board. I don't think they'll trust JD
1:15:44
and I mean, Tucker tries to pander to Candace Owens fans,
1:15:48
but there's no chance in hell they'll ever support JD and that
1:15:52
makes. Sense to me, that's what, that's
1:15:54
what the that's what it always is.
1:15:55
Is, is that like they're always, they're always jumping towards
1:15:58
like what the what? Like what's the, what's the
1:16:01
idiot opinion? Like they're always trying to,
1:16:03
to, to, to communicate like these insane conspiracy
1:16:06
theorists. That's why the right is so
1:16:08
fucked. They're all conspiracy driven.
1:16:09
Whereas like on the left, like, you know, you get pandered to
1:16:12
for wanting healthcare or something, but on the right you
1:16:14
get pandered to if you're fucking insane and believe the
1:16:16
most insane shit. There are people who like
1:16:19
Candace Owens, the type of people who should be permanently
1:16:20
medicated and put in mental institutions, and they're.
1:16:23
Even getting fed up with Tucker a little bit, which I covered
1:16:26
over on Patreon if you're interested.
1:16:27
I also talked about Theo Von accidentally exposing Tucker's
1:16:30
ties to Peter Thiel and Palantir and the CIA and that's a really
1:16:34
good video. Also Alex Jones crashing out
1:16:36
over low IQ conspiracy theories, Jeroen exposing Mossad agent Tim
1:16:40
Dillon exposing the UFO psyop, the depravity of Andrew Schultz
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and Charlemagne and 200 other. I could see the 2.
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Fucking each other. Exclusive videos that are each
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over. 20 minutes. So if you enjoyed this video, I
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out. There'll be a link in the
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