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Why We Pray Together · The Hearing God Podcast

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  SPEAKER_02: Welcome to the Hearing God Podcast.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm Anthony Moore.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I'm Dan Lamus.
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  SPEAKER_02: For over a decade, Anthony and I have been diving deep into weekly conversations about the prophetic, the mystical, and the matters of the heart.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we invite you into these weekly conversations.
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  SPEAKER_00: We hope you feel like an honored guest at our table.
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  SPEAKER_02: So pull up a chair, settle in, and let's get started.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, here we are.
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  SPEAKER_00: Here we are, my friends.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's go.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes, the Hearing God podcast.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: With Dan Lamus and Anthony Moore.
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  SPEAKER_00: Anthony Moore.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: All right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh how's it going, Dan?
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  SPEAKER_00: It's going really well.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Really well.
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  SPEAKER_00: Really well.
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  SPEAKER_02: And you know, I um I uh here here's what here's what I've been chewing on.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's it's simple and yet it it continues to stay with me.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it's basically this like humbly showing up as I am and in my current life circumstances.
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  SPEAKER_02: So my life circumstances and the me that's showing up right now, these are the raw material God is using to transform me into the image of Christ.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right.
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  SPEAKER_02: So it's kind of it calls back to a little bit of the conversation we had last episode about paradox.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, is it all everything God's doing or is it what I'm doing?
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes, it's both.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's God is making use of how I'm showing up and what my current life circumstances are to really transform me into the image of Christ.
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  SPEAKER_02: And here's what I'm realizing as we're coming into our conversation today is I often resist that, full honesty.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: I often think 100%, you know, the way I'm showing up and my current life circumstances, these cannot be the raw material.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like I this you gotta work with something different.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I resist it, and yet there's profound blessing when I'm willing to embrace it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like it's like such a flip, it just flips it so much when I'm willing to actually embrace it and say, Yes, God, yeah, the current me, me as I am, yeah, my current circumstances, these are the raw material.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, a hundred.
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  SPEAKER_00: Bring them to you is lay them on the altar.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, well, it's like, oh, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Speaking of just laying them on the altar, like some of it is like I'm aware, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm aware of uh, you know, places and spaces and thoughts and like uh uh paradigms and realities in my own life where it's like uh I I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's really that it's comes down to this.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like I'm not sure if I'm ready to not have my own way, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Do you know what I'm saying?
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  SPEAKER_00: Like there's like like we're and that can play out in a sort of a number.
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  SPEAKER_00: I really do want my own way, and that's a fairly uh you know, we laugh.
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  SPEAKER_00: I guess we could either laugh or cry if it is true.
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  SPEAKER_00: We laugh or we could cry, but really like um you know, there's just what we do with our time, what we do with our energy, what we no, I would just rather just do this.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yep, you know, uh and and honestly, like I just think that's uh like that's an ongoing, like the the the laying of self on the altar is a constant need.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that right there, I think that dynamic there where we just say to ourselves, I just want to do, I just rather I would rather do this.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that right there is a dynamic that Jesus is that's the garden, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Like that's a that's a we that's the like that's the that's the you know those are the things that God is, you know, he's trying to uproot in us, yeah, if we will let him.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Totally right.
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  SPEAKER_00: So just to say that like I know that I know that space, you know, and I think every believer, if they're honest, knows that space as well.
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  SPEAKER_00: This reality of like either God.
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  SPEAKER_02: I really just want my own way.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like I like that's what's yeah, what's what's getting under my skin today?
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  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_02: I really just really love having my own way.
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  SPEAKER_00: I just was like, you know what, God, I don't want to.
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  SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't wanna somehow, somehow I feel Jesus responds to that with, okay, now we can get to work.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, if you're willing to own that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's part of laying it on the altar is actually just admitting, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, because I think if we just sort of pretend, if we just hide behind that or we just keep that tucked away, uh, we will like God was like, God's like, well, all right, let me know when you want to talk about that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: But when we when we identify that thing, and if I just come before the Lord, it just even as an act of honesty, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: If I just say, look, God, I know this isn't helpful.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I know that you want something more of me.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_00: And uh that or and not not just more of me, you want more of me and more for me.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh and like I just acknowledge it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, God, this is so and and that's a starting point for him, for him to go.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's like, All right, now you've invited me into this conversation.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we may like you there may not be breakthrough in a specific moment, but it again, you've welcomed, like I've welcomed the Lord into the garden of my heart in that, in that, in that specific row.
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  SPEAKER_02: And and I almost imagine it as you're saying that, like, I suddenly become that clay again.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And he's the potter.
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  SPEAKER_02: I suddenly become something, and I'm looking at myself, and it's like I'm saying, why is God handling me so tenderly?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: When I feel like I have such a bad attitude.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it's like because I'm that humility of actually owning it, yeah, is something he's saying, okay, we can shape something really cool with this.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it's like, oh, thank you, God, for that help.
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  SPEAKER_02: And that's that really, thanks for that.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Cause that part of the reason I laugh so so spontaneously at that is this yes, that's exactly it.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's just the awareness of me having me being honest about where I'm really at.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: God reminds me, you are the raw material I want to work with.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_02: And and your current circumstances, they'll do.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like, yes, let's do this.
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  SPEAKER_00: Totally.
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  SPEAKER_00: Just just give me access.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Just give me access.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh keep the door open.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And just and you're going to be amazed at what happens.
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  SPEAKER_00: Love it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's how I'm doing.
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  SPEAKER_00: How are you doing?
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh I'm doing good.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think I've just been um actually that's a different question, isn't it?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it isn't.
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  SPEAKER_00: I it is how's it going?
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  SPEAKER_00: How's it going?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh I think the thing that really I've still been really captured by, you know, what God did a couple weeks ago in our prophetic ministry class.
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  SPEAKER_00: I I think I've been um my my heart, my and my energy and my brain have sort of been like steered in that direction.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um and how how how are we as uh the church uh going to devote ourselves to and give ourselves to raising up and equipping leaders and not just and and not just people who are like have the right education either.
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  SPEAKER_00: But it's more equipping is way bigger than education.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think uh you know, I think there is a uh where maybe institutions of the past and this is probably an overgeneralization, but like places of higher learning have uh maybe uh one of the weaknesses is n is the fire that comes, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: The fire uh the fire side of things.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like we so we know we've used the language recently, form and fire, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
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  SPEAKER_02: Where the inner life is.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, in our life, yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: We talked about that.
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  SPEAKER_00: We just but we talk about the the the form being the education, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: But the fire being the heart, the spirit, yeah, the invisible stuff, like the like the gifting, the spiritual gifts.
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  SPEAKER_00: Those kinds of those kinds of things would be the the the the God stuff that only he can do through you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and so so uh, you know, I've been like like that's what I mean when I say equipping the saints.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean like you you need a good educational foundation, but you need a heart and an anointing and a gifting gray and grace upon you so that you can uh you can do like reproduce, yeah right.
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  SPEAKER_00: You can do you can then all of a sudden we have leaders who can make more leaders, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: And some that's yeah, I think that's the way the church has worked for the last couple thousand years, anyway.
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  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, just that idea, like I think that's where my head and my heart are really is just like focusing on okay, how does the how does how does our church give itself and what are ways, what are ways and avenues that we that could be uh that that could be happening but aren't presently happening?
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  SPEAKER_00: Or what are ways that we are sort of like okay, so we're operating at a one out of ten or two out of ten.
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  SPEAKER_00: How do how do we move the needle on that?
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  SPEAKER_00: And so so it's like, yes, okay, what's our next step?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, is it to move to a four out of ten with the goal, the like the long-term goal being ten out of ten, obviously?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Christ-likeness.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but like how do we work with the prophetic word the Lord released?
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes, how do we work with because I want to encourage anybody who hasn't gone, hasn't listened to just our previous episode.
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  SPEAKER_02: I believe it's paradox, somewhere in the in-between or something like that.
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  SPEAKER_02: But paradox is the first word in the title.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but we but but Anthony released a couple of powerful prophetic words uh part way through that episode that are really important.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it the question, okay, as we acknowledge here's a word the Lord brought through that experience, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: How do we steward it?
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes, like in stewarding it is mulling over, okay, God, what is the what are the strategic steps that we can honor?
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah, I agree.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because some of it is is is meditating and asking the Lord, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: And we've we've said that forever, that at least uh when God speaks, it's an invitation to a conversation.
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  SPEAKER_02: So is that that's part of the application, isn't it?
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah, it's like probably all of it's all of it's an invitation, but I think in my mind it's like, okay, so God talks.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then he's looking for us to talk back and said, what do you mean?
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  SPEAKER_00: Right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's great.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like that's that's like, okay, so Lord, I right so Lord, you said interpretation.
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  SPEAKER_00: So Lord, you so Lord, you said something, yes, which was the revelation.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh, and now what do you mean by that?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Then the then comes the revelation, and then it comes, you know, Lord, what do we do with it?
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  SPEAKER_00: Right, which is the application.
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  SPEAKER_02: But that can re that can require sitting with it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh yes.
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  SPEAKER_02: And and like, God, I'm not gonna just assume here.
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  SPEAKER_02: I uh I really want to soak in this to say, okay, what is the practical next step?
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  SPEAKER_00: 100%, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: And so to me, you know, just for the sake of uh sake of everybody listening, and this might be helpful for for some people who are listening, is like like we've now been, you know, uh we've been a couple weeks on the other side of hearing what God has said.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is what he's this is the Rhema, this is a now word for us as a house.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: In my mind, that's that's not like I don't expect to have the full measure of like the instructions from God on what to do like tomorrow.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like to me, like when God speaks, he doesn't, he may not, yeah, he may not, like he may sort of like bring an interpretation and an application in a in a in a moment, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: But a lot of times, like it kicks off a season.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes, that's right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that and that season, we could say all the time that kicks off the season is just how long that season is, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: It could be a day or it could be it could be many years, right, as far as I'm concerned, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: And so like And it may show up as you you you you take a next step, which seemed right to the Holy Spirit and to us, and it it's the thing, yeah, and God the fire very much lands on it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_02: You're like, oh, okay, there's a thing.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's the application of a thing we heard back there.
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  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, that absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and so just to say, like when God, when God talks, um, when it when he says something to you, maybe um, you know, it's a it's a direction, it's a sense of like what he's going to do or what, you know, whether that's good or bad or whatever, there are like obviously there are always invitations to a conversation, but it doesn't mean like if you can't figure out what God wants you to do with that, a thing, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh that's not uh that's not something that he's unaware of.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like he's totally aware, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: He and and and if you keep coming back to him, right, he loves that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes, he loves the relationship, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: He loves the conversation, and he'll he'll give the revelation or he'll give the uh interpretation and application uh when when the time is right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: But because he's you know, he he loves dropping breadcrumbs, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Like it's the it's the the proverb there, proverbs 25, 2.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's the glory of God to conceal a matter, but it's the glory of kings to search out the matter.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's the so it's the when God gives you a breadcrumb, like, and if and it is to your glory, like and to my glory to start to you know initiate the dialogue, yes, of like God, what either what do you what do you mean by that?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like what's on your heart?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, what do we do what do we do with what you've what you've spoken?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so for me, I I love like but the but the moment of revelation was like it's a cool because you get like a in the timeline of your life, you get a you get to plant a flag.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like we're here, yeah, and it it seems really clear to us that God's saying something.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's that's really that's really where I am right now.
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  SPEAKER_00: And again, like that's I mean, equipping the saints has always always been a um like a big part of you know who I am.
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  SPEAKER_00: And uh I feel like that's near and dear.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so it's like, of course, I would love, you know, if if God speaks a word about equipping, then of course I'm gonna be really, really, really excited about it.
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  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, uh and so anyway, just to sort of segue here, I think there's um there's a conversation that we want to get into a little bit because we have been talking about prayer uh these days.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um and one of the things, you know, we've talked a lot about what happens when we pray about shifting our perspective, about surrender, you know, heaven responding, things like that.
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  SPEAKER_00: But one of the things that um I wanna, I want to just maybe we can start with a scripture verse out of Acts chapter four.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah um, and really a prayer, one of the first, maybe not maybe if I'm gonna say for sure the first corporate prayer that where they were all gathered together and I think it was Peter, I think it was Peter.
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  SPEAKER_00: Peter and John?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, it was Peter and John that got beat up for healing that guy.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_00: Right, the the the the lame guy where they said, silver and gold, I don't have, but such as I have, I give to you in the name of Jesus.
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  SPEAKER_00: Get up and walk.
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  SPEAKER_00: But the next part of that is they were taken before the priests and and basically threatened and beaten and told not to say anything about Jesus.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And to which they responded, you know, the to which they responded, um, you know, uh we can't help ourselves, essentially.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: So but should we obey God?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes, amen.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and so so that's just that's where we are.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so the the prayer, I think this is the I think this is the prayer, the prayer for boldness, basically at it in later on where um so so basically let me start at verse Acts chapter four, verse I should have brought my glasses, so I'm gonna hold it far enough away to read.
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  SPEAKER_00: But it says, so uh when they were released, they went to their friends and were reported uh they reported what the chief priests and the elders had said to them.
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  SPEAKER_00: And when they heard it, they lifted up their voices together.
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  SPEAKER_00: So there's your corporate prayer meeting and said, right, like sovereign Lord, who made the heaven and the earth and the sea and everything within them.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then and then they go and they he keeps going in their prayer and then and then they says, Here's the here's the the point, right?
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_00: So they they go through a little bit of a a history lesson in their prayer.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and then it says, And now, Lord, look upon their threats and grant your servants to continue to speak your word with all boldness while you stretch out your hand to heal.
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  SPEAKER_00: And signs and wonders are performed through the name of your holy servant Jesus.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah, the the beauty of I like that translation a lot.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's a ES, it's ESV.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_00: I like that while that's cool.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So so the thing upon the thing that we we that I I think I would like to to talk about is okay, so that's the corporate prayer meeting and the kinds of things that you might pray at a corporate prayer meeting, right?
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like, you know, we talked a little bit about this.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I don't know if we've said it before, but there's a I've you know, we've talked about it to our to our church uh in some ways like this.
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  SPEAKER_00: When you are when you are by yourself and you're with the Lord, it's your time with God, oftentimes the prayer that gets released is of personal nature.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_00: That's right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
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  SPEAKER_00: And and that's that's not wrong.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_00: It's just the dynamic, the dynamic of just that's what, hey, I'm gonna pray for myself.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_00: God, we're gonna talk about right.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna talk about me, we're gonna talk about you and you and me and how we're how we're doing.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_00: And um, well, I'm I'm also gonna talk about things that are close to me, like my family.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_00: You know, maybe there's a thing, there's a thing at work or you know, that I got to talk about, or you know, there's just personal things of a personal nature that matter more intimately.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_00: Now that's different than when we gather together to pray, right?
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_00: And that's just that doesn't mean that we never like those, that's not a hard boundary.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just talking in generality.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_00: So that when we we gather together to pray corporately, we're gonna pray things that um are gonna matter to the house.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's right.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna matter to our cities, our towns, yeah, the places we live, the region.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_00: That's right.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna agree together for the heart of God.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, again, like back to back to the Lord's prayer, your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as is in heaven.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_00: Like that's a 30,000 foot that that can be like your life, my life, but also but in just what you look out with corporate eyes.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we corporate eyes, but what's what's the thing?
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_00: What are the things that are on God's heart?
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_00: What are the needs that are on God's heart for the places that we live?
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and so I just think that this is this is the this is the interesting thing about this prayer, right?
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_00: So it's a little bit like, okay, so Lord, we together, we've raised up our voices together and said, now Lord, look upon their threat.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, right.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_00: So but here's the deal grant your servants, right?
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so like okay, so yeah, Lord, grant King's Church, yeah, right.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_00: This is us as a house.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there's a plural, there's a plurality to the language, right?
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_00: Grant your servants to continue to speak your word with all boldness.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_00: So there's like there's the perspective.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_00: Like, we're not, I'm not praying this for me, I'm praying this for us.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's right.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_00: So when we talk about, we talk about this thing where it's like grant your grant your service, like God grant King's Church, you know, grace to speak your word with all boldness.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_00: And that's like while while you stretch out your hand to heal.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_00: So that's legit on the in the corporate prayer meeting.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_00: God, like, stretch out your hand to heal, that people would come to King's Church.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_00: They would come to this house, like they would come to St.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_00: Stephen and Halifax and Charlottetown, West St.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_00: John and Bridgewater and in Quispam Cis.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: Would come to these places, God, and find healing.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_02: Right, right.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_02: Come with all their wounds.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_02: They would come with their wounds.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_02: Their uh high hang-ups, their uh, you know, whatever, where they're bound.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_00: They would they would do that.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_00: They would find, they would find healing.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, stretch out your hand to heal, yeah, right.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_00: And signs and wonders are performed, right?
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_00: So again, that's like I mean, that if you weren't, if healing wasn't enough, that they were signs and there were things that God, the activity of God, yeah, would be such um there they would be such uh in such um abundance abundance or even demonstration in in our in our midst, yeah that it would be like, and obviously through the name of your holy servant Jesus, right?
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_00: So in the name of Jesus, yeah, these things would be done.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_00: So just the nature, and then obviously the awesome thing is like, and I think you and I both would, you know, long for the day where you know, the where it says, and the when they had prayed, the place in which they were gathered together was shaken, and they were all filled with the Holy Spirit, and they continued to speak the word of God with boldness, right?
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_00: Like we're we're contending, and we we see signs of this, right?
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_00: But we're like whatever your wherever your mind goes with you know what Luke records as the place in which they were gathered was shaken.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, right, yeah.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_00: Like we're we're we're longing for our prayer meetings to be places where we can genuinely see say that God came and the place was shaken.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_00: Right, right, right.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, totally.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah so so and again, uh that's probably an an over that's an overextended setup, but I think maybe just to just to throw it over to you with just a little, so you know, again, you and I have labored over the corporate prayer meeting for a for a long time.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_00: And just talk about maybe some of the things that you like, maybe what what do you see as critical ingredients to like a like a corporate prayer meeting that like an effective meeting is intriguing.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_02: So is it Peter and John that was a good thing?
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I don't I don't think it doesn't say like I think to me it sounds like Peter and John came back and reported and then it switches to I don't think it identifies them as the prayers.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_00: Right, right, right.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_00: It just says they and they lifted up their voice together.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_02: Because right at the I right from the beginning, I love that it's not what are these two guys gonna do, God?
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they're in trouble, yeah.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_02: They've been threatened.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I love that the that the church owns we've been we've they're threatening us, they've beaten us.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_02: Like those in the room that didn't receive the beating and the and the threat, yeah, who said, no, that's those are our wounds.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_02: Those are they're threatening us.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and there's courage in understanding that what happens to a few of us or to one of us, yeah, really we all we all enter into that.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_02: Like uh I I I love that distinction between the the things that you will courageously embrace with all your heart in a group, yeah, that when you're just on your own, you might not even you might not even pray a prayer like that.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_02: You might be a little bit more focused on how am I gonna survive this, God.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_02: But when you're with a group, you you're emboldened to pray something like, hey, we hear these threats, but enable us and you feel the strength of your brothers and sisters around you, right?
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_02: Enable us to speak your word boldly.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_02: We know this isn't just come naturally to us, but we ask you to enable us to do that, and the bold prayer comes out of the fact that they are in a group.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, totally.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_02: Like it's it's you know, it's a it's a fun, I mean it's a fun sort of dream to have that you're gonna be this heroic solo warrior, but in reality, we're we're strong together, like we like corporate just as a simple the fact of like being together, right?
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_00: Right, yeah, and bringing agreement, right?
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_00: Like I it's just like that back to what Jesus says about you know, where two or three are together, there I'm in the midst, and if two or three agree together, touching any one thing, yeah, you know, it will be done.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_00: So there's so it's not just our imagination that we feel strength in those kind of numbers.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_00: There's a spiritual reality that happens.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_02: I can totally relate to that.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_02: Like I I am much bolder, much more bold in in a corporate prayer time.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_02: If I happen to be the voice that's leading into a prayer, I've had a experience many times where I start in with a good prayer, but not feeling bold.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_02: But then my brothers and sisters around me are like, yes.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, okay.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_02: And I right.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_00: There's it, there's almost like there suddenly becomes like this, uh, we would call it a maybe a little bit more like a flow starts to develop.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_00: Like a a sense, it becomes a little more fiery the more people uh get in tune with what maybe the Holy Spirit is saying in the in that space, in that time.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_02: I've had this funny experience where where you and others are gathered and we're all gathered together in a room.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_02: We're praying, and and I'll I'll be thinking a thing, yeah, and I probably said it, but didn't even realize I said it out loud.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_02: And the one actually leading in prayer will go, Yes, that's right, and they'll pray the line I just said.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, Well, I didn't mean to say that out loud, but I'm glad it encouraged you.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but that's a fun like that to me, that is lifting something with one voice.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_02: It's yeah, absolutely the the as the people's mouths and their tongues are loosened to go ahead and speak out in prayer.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_02: We've talked about this before.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_02: The one actually the there might be one person leading out, yeah, but as they hear the agreement around the room, they grab onto some theme somebody over here is praying.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_00: Totally.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_00: And also, like and then this is this is the cool.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's awesome.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_00: And this is just another dynamic of that, is where you feel like you're going to pray something, and then someone else prays that exact same thing, right?
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_00: It's this unspoken thing that starts to happen in a room.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like there is a reality of like the unity of the spirit.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_00: It's this mystical thing that's happening when the Lord comes and he's like, okay, this is He's He's directing, right?
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_00: Like He's directing that prayer meeting in a way that it's like, okay, so only you can do this, God.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_00: Where it's like, I was like, I'm blown away.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_00: Like that was the thing I was gonna pray.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, you know, we it it doesn't, it suddenly becomes, well, I didn't, you know, I can bring an amen, right?
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_00: But that's the thing that's on your heart.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like, okay, so you know, like we just yeah, we're blown away by those moments of like, oh, that's that was the thing that I felt to pray.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_00: I felt like the Lord wants me to pray that, yeah.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_00: And that comes out of somebody else's mouth is just one of those really cool um dynamics to what can happen in a prayer meeting for sure.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, what else?
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, what are the you know, again, like I think what you know, we would want uh, you know, a dynamic of a healthy corporate prayer meeting would be like that we would want to be intentionally and explicitly like spirit led.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_00: Like we would that's not uh something that uh that's not necessarily something that uh is sort of immediately like I think in principle like people would if there was an intellectual ascent, people would say sort of like I I I think that's a great idea.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_00: But in practice it can be a little bit like, okay, so how does that flush itself out?
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_00: Like that, and you may, you know, you may, and again, I think we still have uh, you know, a ways to go on that.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_00: I don't certainly by any stretch don't think we've arrived in in having a a spirit-led and spirit-filled um you know prayer meeting.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_00: But we've, you know, we've over the years we've seen signs of it, right?
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_00: And it's been like this thing where, okay, so this it's like this the planning and the spontaneous this the planning, like God, okay, what are the things that we're gonna pray into today?
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_00: That we we plan that with the Lord.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_00: And then we get into a spontaneous moment where where those the two of those come together, and it just seems like you know, this spiritual explosion happens where God comes in in a powerful way, and as people, as your intercessors are partnered with God and they begin to release what God is talking to him, there just seems to be this measure of increase of the presence of God in that room.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_02: It's as if he begins to fill it with his why.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's like it's like you've you've gotten direction from him in the what we're gonna pray for.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_02: So we show up, this seems like a good outline, these prayer points, inviting God to lead it.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_02: Like even though we've got this outline, yeah, that outline's not gonna lead us.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_02: You're still gonna lead us, sovereign Lord.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_02: And it's like he it's like he fills in the why.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_02: It's like, oh, that's why you want to pray that.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_02: And and as you hear other brothers and sisters, even you hear the heart behind the words they're praying, and you catch the passion behind that.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_02: You're like, oh, that's the Holy Spirit's moving in them, yeah, fanning the flame of that prayer point.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like that prayer point was a good one, but now it's a great one because of what just happened.
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think it's interesting that they started praying, they lift up their voices and they immediately, sovereign Lord, yeah, who made the heaven and the earth.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, they're like reminding themselves.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, like, hey, wait a second.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_02: You know, we're yeah, let's remember who we're praying to.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_00: It's not like Jesus needed to hear that to respond, right?
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_00: They needed to declare that so they would know, right?
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_00: This is who we're yeah, by the way, coming out of this experience, this is who we're yes, this is who we're talking to.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, this is and and not, you know, this is who the enemy's messing with.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_02: Like these ones who think they are going to control the agenda, yeah, and the enemy and the power behind it.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's saying, hey, we're gonna take control of this church, this thing that that you know is happening, we're gonna take control.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_02: They're saying, okay, no, they're not going to take control.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, you're the sovereign lord, and they begin to remind each other and remind their own hearts.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that is huge in a corporate prayer session.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_02: Uh come, I've come in many times and I've seen others come in really either feeling kind of meh about about the whole thing, or just I don't even know if I feel like praying today, I don't know even where I'm at.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and then within 10 minutes of focusing on the sovereign Lord and reminding one another of his goodness and his faithfulness, it's like instead of well, I should have known that.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_02: I feel dumb.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_02: There isn't an attitude of measuring up or condemnation in any of that, it's encouraging one another to remember.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, for sure.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_02: We are talking to the sovereign Lord after all, the Lord of heaven and earth, you know, and I feel like that that happens, that happened for them.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_02: I'm imagining that's happening for them in this section of of Acts.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, uh, and then you know, why why did the Gentiles rage in the people's plot in vain?
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_02: And then they it goes on, and it they're taking time to recite to one another.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like, oh, let's remember the story.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah you know, that's really good.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_02: Uh so yeah, encouraging, reminding one another.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_02: I think it's really intriguing as you were reading it out loud.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_02: I was noticing the the flow of the the partnership of uh the word.
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like we like the importance of in you know, enable empower your servants, enable your servants to speak your word boldly.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_02: That was gonna be the human part, right?
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_02: You know, we're gonna speak the word boldly, enable us to do that, and I just love that.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think I've noticed that before.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_02: While you stretch out your hand, right?
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yes while you're gonna be doing yeah, we're we know you're gonna be partnership your part.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_02: And so we want to show up and be showing up with the human part, yeah, absolutely, and recognizing that we also need your help.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you enable your servants to do this.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I've always sort of I I don't have the other translations open in front of me, but I almost remember like a period or a comma there.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_02: It was like a one thought.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_00: Enable like enable your service to speak boldly, full thought, yeah, and then stretch out your hand to heal.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_00: It's like a whole thing, yeah, whole other thing.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_00: Not while not enable your service to speak boldly while you stretch out your hand to heal.
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_02: That really kind of creates me excited for our our next prayer room, which is happening, I think, tomorrow.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_02: It is testimony.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_02: Um it's like, whoa.
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, could that really be a dynamic that we need to expect more?
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_00: That while like while we're doing while the word while the declaration of the word of God, right, yeah, is going forth, that we should expect in if if that is going forward forth, it's not like it's not really like um like the going forth like the we think it should go forth.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_00: Like in if it's going forth in its like purity, integrity, and in in spirit, the way that God designs, that we should expect there to be a spiritual reality that's bringing healing.
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right?
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_00: What's the word?
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_02: Simultaneously.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_00: Simultaneously, yeah, yeah.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_00: There is a there is a coinciding of the word of God being declared, yeah, and healing that comes from that.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_00: And so I just there was like there's a thing, um, maybe maybe just touch on this briefly.
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_00: Like when we talk about a healthy prayer meeting in what like a healthy corporate prayer meeting, there is this reality of sometimes uh where like one side of the ditch would be to overplan, right?
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and then and then I know this, like, you know, some of some of our charismatic friends fall into this a little bit where it's like it's like overly spontaneous.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_00: So the one the one side puts a little bit of a straitjacket on stick to these prayer points, stick to these prayer points, and that's it.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, whereas our you know, the and again of of which I am one, but I recognize sometimes, and this certainly frustrates the people on you know who are a little bit more on the reform side, is that sometimes you can get into those meetings and pray a whole lot of things without praying anything.
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_00: You get you get without intention, without direction.
• 37:13
  SPEAKER_00: And so the the idea that I think here's what I think.
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think in a prayer meeting requires actually both, right?
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_00: I have just described two ditches.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't want, I don't want the straitjacket, yeah, right.
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_00: But I also don't want the uh I don't want the the freewheeling, wandering, sort of like meandering prayers.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_00: But when you marry the two, I think in principle, uh with like here's the direction, and Holy Spirit, you're leading this meeting.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_00: Because it's not like I think the the pitfall on some of these sides is like, you know, the fear is like this is why charismatics sometimes hate plans, is that they don't imagine the possibility that when you come with a plan that you've planned with the Lord.
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yeah, absolutely.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_00: Is they they there's some sort of like oil, there's some kind of like they react terribly to plans, right?
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_00: But you actually need the plan, yeah.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 38:09
  SPEAKER_00: And so, but the other the other part of it is is like, okay, so the people who have planned with the Lord don't don't haven't can't fathom the the possibility that uh now to get into motion, we need to be able to do it.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we need we need actually the life, the life and the spontaneity that comes from the Holy Spirit being in the room, yeah.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_00: That's right, right.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_00: And so there's the two when they marry together and we have we create a a paradigm where there's where there's planning and attention married with the spontaneity, the spontaneity that comes from being with the Lord and Him moving through people.
• 38:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like then we have like then we have like a recipe for uh you know God too amazing, do something.
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_02: So while we're doing this, Lord Jesus, we know you'll be doing this.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_02: Like we're gonna be bringing our farm and bringing that with boldness and faith.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_02: And while you stretch out your hand and do miracles and healings and signs and wonders.
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 39:19
  SPEAKER_00: And I'll say this, I'll say this too, like, and I just want to submit this to you, maybe as we start to land the plane here.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_00: Uh is like there is some there is some mysterious dynamic that it seems to me that only can come when the people of God gather together to pray.
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_00: There is, uh, and I'm not I'm not making, I don't know what kind of thing I'm making here, but it seems generally true.
• 39:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 39:45
  SPEAKER_00: Not like, okay, so Elijah prayed and you know, right, it didn't rain for three years.
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_00: But uh, but just to say as a general, there's something um there's something mystical that that happens, yeah, that can only happen when the people of God gather together to pray.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_00: Right, right, right.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_00: And it's it, you know, it is when we bring, when we talk about words like agreement, they're they're they are words and they are like sort of objective truth, but it's more than that.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_00: Like there's something transcendent that happens when the people of God come together.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_00: So it it's like it's like, yes, it's words on the page.
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_00: Uh it is, you know, the but there's something happening.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_00: It's a it's a it's a sort of like a, I don't know, it's just like there's the idea and there's the stuff that you write down.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, when two or three gathered together, there I am in your midst.
• 40:40
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, great.
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_00: But then there's the actual there's the actual reality of what's happening from an invisible there's the mystical side of what happens.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_02: And so just to say that I love that because it is a there's risk to it.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_02: There is risk to it, yeah.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_02: You know, are we all in the right frame of mind?
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_02: Are we all in the same page?
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_02: Uh shift into a different if if they're not totally if they want if I'm leading and everybody walks in, they don't seem to be ready.
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, what am I gonna do?
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_02: There's I know there's risk in it.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_02: Like, but I'm gonna show up anyway and do it.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and there God honors that.
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_00: And they're yeah, yeah, like I think, I think just that idea of like um there is to maybe pique somebody's interest.
• 41:22
  SPEAKER_00: Because like there are we've talked a lot about you know the hangups of people coming to a a a prayer meeting.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_00: But I I will say just to maybe whet somebody's appetite, is to is to understand like I've been in we've been in some rooms, right?
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_00: And and I have to say like that I love it when the Lord meets me in my time with him.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, and and there's no replacing that.
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_00: But on the other side, there is no replacing the group, the this this agree, this mystical thing that happens where we're all aware and there's a unity that comes and there's a flow that happens.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_00: And it's a gift, whether or not I say anything or not, right?
• 42:05
  SPEAKER_00: There is a gift that comes from experiencing the Lord together.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_00: Uh ends in I think, and again, I think you know, that's not that's a bit of a uh foreshadowing to the days ahead, yeah, right?
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_00: The increase, and ultimately we are going to be fully in its fullness experiencing the Lord together, yeah, right?
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_00: That it matters when we come together, yeah.
• 42:30
  SPEAKER_02: And so I just our days happening while we speak.
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_00: While we speak.
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and so I just I just to encourage people, like it's it's like it's you know, you don't have to come to King's Church, like get, but get to a prayer meeting, right?
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_00: And and maybe it's super dry, yeah, but but okay, so bring life, yeah, right?
• 42:55
  SPEAKER_00: You know, bring some life, and it doesn't mean that you get your way, but be but okay, do your best to partner with the Lord.
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_00: It isn't that you get to boss people around and have your own way, yeah.
• 43:07
  SPEAKER_00: But it is like when you pray, pray with humility.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_00: That's right, pray in the right spirit, and express not a curve, not a corrective spirit, not a prideful spirit, like I know or whatever.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_00: This is the way, this is the way you should pray.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_00: But it just pray as the Lord leads with humble uh, you know, with humility, and just watch and see what God does.
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_00: And so I just think that that's you know, that's a you know, maybe, maybe we can, you know, we can land the plane there.
• 43:34
  SPEAKER_00: And maybe you pray for us, Dan, just in terms of like that God would help us.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, number one, that that uh more than the things that we have to be afraid of, that we would be aware of the promise of what of what you know what he who he wants to be to his people in the corporate prayer meeting.
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I love it.
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_02: That's so good.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we do we do honor you as sovereign God.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_02: And we uh we feel very secure because of your grace and your mercy to come and humbly say we have so much to learn.
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and yet we're in a great place.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_02: And so we're not we don't feel insecure because there's much to learn.
• 44:23
  SPEAKER_02: We actually say we're excited about it.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_02: God, would you uh continue to lead and teach us as we as Anthony and I continue on our journey here, but also everybody listening, God, would we just I pray that um that you would uh send us a fresh invitation?
• 44:43
  SPEAKER_02: Hey, make make corporate prayer coming out to a gathering where a group of people are praying, make that part of your practice on a regular basis, Lord.
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe see it as a fresh invitation and um come with with a new heart to expect that you are gonna do a special thing because it is a group corporate prayer.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_02: And uh God, we just we just give that to you.
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_02: Um God, we pray over one another's hearts, help us to grow in our appreciation for this, and um to come with our sleeves rolled up and ready to be a voice uh in in the midst of group prayer.
• 45:22
  SPEAKER_02: Uh God, we just ask you for a fresh day, for a fresh, like a fresh season of it being remarkable that the church uh that the church around us, that the church in our time has rediscovered the power of corporate prayer.
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah and we pray this in Jesus' name.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_02: Amen.
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_02: Well, that's a wrap on this episode.
• 45:47
  SPEAKER_02: It's been a privilege to have you as an honored guest as we all learn to hear God better.
• 45:53
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• 46:03
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