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Reptilian Humanoids - Old Legends & Modern Encounters with Travis Willier Moostoos · The Cryptid Huntress

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you guys. Travis Willier moose Toos is an actor, artist writer.
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Starred an apt in, Secret History of the Wild West and various other shows.
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Across many different platforms. Travis is a knowledge story holder of his Cree
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people in his area of Northern Alberta, Canada, and is an active UFO
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paranormal investigator. He often shares his experience with UFOs, Bigfoots, and ancient
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connections of Native America to the star nations and the universe beyond. And we're
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going to be talking about reptilians, maybe a little bit of dragons in there
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tonight. We're going to talk about wherever we're led to, Okay, so
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please help me. Welcome to spaced Out Radio tonight. I've got Travis here
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and welcome to space Out Radio. What's up, Travis? Hi, Thanks
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for having me. It's wonderful of course. Listen, you're like a fan
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favorite over here. Okay, it's spaced Out Radio. And I know you've
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been on a Dave show and I actually hosted you on Dave Show before and
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and you've been here. I mean, I just love talking with you.
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You have so much knowledge and knowledge that you were willing to share with us.
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And tonight is in regards to reptilians and you know the other the other
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day over on my channel, the CRIBPTD Huntress I was talking about the Lizard
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City, the lizard people, that there was like a settlement or a city
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underneath Los Angeles, California, that was found in unearthed in like nineteen thirty
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four. And I believe you saw that. You hit me up. We
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had a little conversation about it, and we're going to expand on that tonight.
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Exactly. Yes, I just wanted to say hello, everyone watching,
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thank you for watching, and all too everyone who's watching and watch us in
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the future also hello, and yes, I'm I'm glad to be here and
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share some of that with you. Yeah. Where do we want to begin
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here with some of the ancient stuff that's been considered and what not? So
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yes, absolutely, all right, Yeah, let's go back. Let's go
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back in time. Okay, We're going to start back in time and then
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we'll work our way to the future, to the present day, and to
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the future. So what exactly do you know about the history of the reptile
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people or the servent people. Yes, the well, there's extraterrestrial reptilians,
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and then there's also people who are half human half hybrid reptilian beings and descendants
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of them, and then there's also a lot of I should say, also
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people who just like hold themselves as reptilian people because of their spiritual connections,
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I should say, and beliefs. So uh, I guess that's uh,
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that's pretty much what I what I would say. There's a lot of reptilions
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out there, different kinds and also the extraterrestrial reptilians as well, a lot
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of different kind of out there dimensionally and out there physically too. Uh.
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Yeah, the connections go right back to you know, ancient times and uh
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you know, it was like a lot of them did come down and uh
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there was like ancient cities, ancient dragon cities and uh you know they were
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known as different names too, and uh and a lot of these cities existed
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across the world. And and that's where you get a lot of these reptilian
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temples and uh, you know, like you'll see a lot of these like
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uh you know, old school like uh, I should say, just like
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all the old temples from the Mayans down to Machipichu and South America. There's
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a lot of reptilian connection there with a lot of the but it's a it
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goes back to, uh, the creation and a lot of the creation stories.
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There are a lot of like the animals and spirits and beings of that
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we have today had given themselves to create our reality, you know, part
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of their spirits in the in the di mensal spiritual realm. So it was
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said that the fire dragon was one of those beings that gave up itself to
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create the earth. And that's where we get a lot of our crystals and
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our stones from. And and that's one of the one of the oldest you
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know, Uh, I should say all there's out there in terms of guardians
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and and it's up right up there with the q Q and thunderbird, right,
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So a lot of these you know, they they yeah, so it's
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almost considered one too as well. But I'm just saying also too, and
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a lot of the you know, a lot of the flood and all that
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happened, like a lot of like claudicalisms that happen on Earth throughout the years
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and time. Uh, these beings that you know what like once we're strong
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animal kingdoms, they all started you know, bating away as time went on,
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right from the cloudicalisms of Earth and humans started uh becoming a thing,
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right, And so what I'm saying is like there's still there's still some of
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that around. We still have crocodiles, we still have kmodo dragons, we
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still have turtles, we still have sharks. You know. These things are
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age old beings, you know, that are still here, that haven't really
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changed much since the time. What am I getting at here is uh,
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these connections uh uh they date back, you know. And so when Man
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and Uh in the ancient exterrestrials, Man had a fight in the primordial days
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of like what we refer to as Iridonis, and it was a time of
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just like reptilian warfare, and there was like a lot of reptilians that taken
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over different parts of the constellations and get it and get a different sorry,
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different star constellations and galaxies. Uh. They took over a lot of the
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gray gray races out there, and they actually came over to destroy a lot
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of the Lyrian planets. They destroyed like like two out of the three Lriuan
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planets, and uh destroyed a lot of the dog race and the cat beings
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and uh, and a lot of the humans had to go to fight with
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them, and a lot of the Pleadians too, and Pleadian humans and there
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was a huge battle that happened just in our solar system because they wanted control
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of our solar system. And it kind of it kind of dealt in that
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sense. They were here too, like the Reptilians came here first, and
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they were on Earth for and they you know, they started off temples and
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different different places of worship and and yeah, and then at the end of
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the day when we showed up here as like kind of like the last resort,
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a lot of a lot of races mixed together down here and created a
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lot of these earlier civilizations like as like we like to say Loomeria and Atlantis
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and and those. After a while, those civilizations, like they ended up
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rising up against a lot of the Reptilian control because like a lot of the
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planets I should say, like a lot of the death stars are stars of
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death were destroyed in our solar system. So Reptilians had to kind of vacate
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underneath the Earth. And you know, it was more like a displacement of
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the Reptilians. They just went put themselves down in the Earth because they had
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a superior technology and borrowing, boring of asteroids and different planet TOIDs because they're
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where they're from, it was so much radiation on their surface. They had
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to start living underneath the ground and finding water sources that way. And but
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what I'm getting at is so a lot of the time that they spent here
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on Earth prior to our existence here on Earth, was recreating and biologically testing
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a lot of these dinosaurs. So they created monsters on land and monsters on
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the see and different kind of abominations that were natural to the world. And
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and that's where a lot of like the la aneens, after they you know,
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kind of like won the war, the humans took over the war.
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Like there was like a lot of different human races that came together to fight
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back to reptilians on this earth. And after they did that, there was
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a huge I guess it was like a extermination of most of the dinosaurs because
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like a lot of them were just abominations. But it was like it was
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at different time the people. It was like a couple thirteen thousand years of
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piece and then yeah, it was like it's said in the stories that it
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came to an end, you know, the as they refer to it in
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our you know, in some of the native cultures around the area, they
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say it's called land of Pan. It's a it's a the land before,
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the red land before and uh they came from there. A lot of the
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shann't be shouldn't be people they call themselves where the sun right sun were sorry,
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where the sun goes in the distance, Like it's like where the people
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where they came from? Right? And it's said that a lot of these
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uh after Atlantis fell and uh reptilians that used a lot of uh I should
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say tech, underground technology to sing Lumeria and and Atlantis, a lot of
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these I should say dragon cultures moved across the land. There was a lot
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of these, like still old beliefs in the dragons and all the animal guardians
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in that time, Right, it wasn't like there was no no respect towards
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it or anything like. It was just some of these other like where the
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reptilians where they came from is still it's like they were they don't belong here
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either, like the ones that were causing all the trouble. They showed up
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in our dimension like they were kicked out of another one. Right, But
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what what I'm getting at is UH is uh so after they fell, a
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lot of the culture moved across the lands all over you know, someone to
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Europe somewhere too, you know south like Egypt and uh, Africa and all
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the all across the South America, Asia, and and when the a lot
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of the serpents came to America, uh, they actually helped create a lot
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of the temples Machu Picchu and uh there's like a few other temples I'm just
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just forgetting the names of right now for some reason. But yeah, they
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created a lot of those temples. And then they ended up coming up more
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north, like you know, traveling up through New Mexico into the Central America
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and North America. And a lot of these cultures were met by other bands
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of not so friendly natives like apaches and other other bands that were just gonna
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stand up against them. And a lot of those a lot of those Atlantine
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people and certain people were actually like massacred, and uh a lot of those
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people, like women were taken and and they were made, uh like they
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made their wives or whatever, right like they became like a trophy wives or
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whatever. Like they became like like uh like anyway, so they ended up
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making uh like descendants of these serpent people and and after a while they ended
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up it was another branch of like Atlantean people that actually came up through and
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they were fire turtle people and uh and they ended up being brought up here
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too, and uh there was already natives like uh already stationed like all around
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North America, and uh it was like almost like, uh, the Iroquis
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were helping meet them and bring them up more north. So like if you
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ever see Serpent Mound, that's what it means, is like there's a serpent
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that's being that's following and it's uh the turtles being led like they're showing the
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turtle the way like the turtle Like there's a turtle at the front of the
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Serpent mount And that's what it means, is like so these Yeah, so
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this culture came up north right, and a lot of these people mixed and
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a lot of these like uh and the Iroquas that's what the that's what their
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name means. It means rattlesnakes are snakes, snake people, and they were
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they considered are and that these a lot of the powers like of the snake
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medicines and uh and uh, yeah, they like they were known battle in
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combat to be able to sneak up on somebody without them hearing them. Like
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they were very silent, like a snake kind of deal. And and yeah,
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they were both like very very gifted in both the site of in between
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the life of the world, in between life and death, like you know
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what I mean. So like they were very spiritual and in that sense and
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in that wisdom right, because snakes always meant wisdom as well. So it
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was a very uh, very tied and like cultural belief there with them.
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And uh and for us too, we we held a lot of like respects
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to them. The snake people are like the getting nap you is uh is
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a name for them. And these guys, uh a lot of them.
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They lived in the mountains is this kind of near like Canmore area, and
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they lived up there, and they pretty much they were so like they were
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able to take form of snakes when they when they were in their ceremonies and
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that higher elevations of vibration, they were able to actually take the form of
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snakes. And they were called like keepers of the Mountain to most needles down
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south, like like stony creep people, they know them as them, and
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and uh, yeah, it's like they also had very much connection with the
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inner earth, uh giants, because there there was a wisdom that they were
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guarding in the mountains. Like so it was like that's the legend of that
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and uh like they ended up like like I said, there's a lot of
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teachings towards like life and death and rebirth and spirituality and growth like that wreage.
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So it's a lot of ties to ceremony in that sense. Wow,
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oh my gosh, Travis, Okay, hold on my mind. My mind
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is like racing one hundred miles an hour right now. And uh yeah,
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there's that's all. That's that's so much information. It's so amazing, like
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wonderful. Okay. So I don't even know where to start, okay,
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with the with the dinosaurs for instance, Okay, because like where where did
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all the dinosaurs go? Okay, So what you were saying was like the
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and by the way, dog face, thank you for that amazing super chat.
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We appreciate that, and you too, Amy, I saw yours as
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well. Thank you so much for your superchat. Y'all. Okay, So
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the dinosaurs, it's like, well, so the reptilian races actually created the
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dinosaurs, Is that what you were saying, Uh, they they found they
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found most of them here. They just created a lot of the abomination,
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like ones that were very vicious and violent in the purposes of that right,
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like they were they were experimenting with them. But yeah, yeah, no,
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they didn't create them. There was already life here, do you the
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spirit of the dragon giving its life to earth. So it was a natural
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process for this earth to add those beings here. Okay, well, okay,
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well, I just was watching somebody sent me a video today actually of
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a gentleman who was a professor at a I believe he's a professor to collogy.
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He's a scientist, a biologist, and uh and they say that he
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took chicken eggs and was able to recreate and grow t rexes Tyrannosaurus rex.
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We have at least one. I'm sure there's plenty of them somewhere, you
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know, they say, somewhere, even in China or Japan or somewhere in
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Asia. There's like an island where there's a whole bunch of dinosaurs and uh
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and so, but they're putting it out there. It's almost like soft disclosure.
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Yeah, someone up on TikTok it's still soft disclosure, right, I
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mean, what what better way to get it out to the masses that this
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is going on. Yeah, I could totally see the I could sell.
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I could see them cloning something that or trying to make something or recreate something
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on that on that level. H yeah, No, it's something else,
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right, Like there's all sorts of like uh, you know, uh dinosaurs
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and will dragons. I consider them dragons because the word dinosaur was only created
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in like eighteen something sixty three or twenty three or something like that. But
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like it's like, you know, at the end of the day, what
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were they known as before that? Dragons? Right, So I just refer
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to a lot of the dinosaur reptilians or reptile like creatures as as the dragon
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dragon style people, like that's what our people call them. Like for a
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lizard folk, it was, uh, it wasna somethana, which is a
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dragon man or reptilian man or lizard man. You know, it can mean
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one of like all that in that sense. And so it's like, you
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know it so to me, it's from my cultural speaking point of view,
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it's like they're you know, dragon like or dragon relatives of that, right,
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Like that family yeah. Oh, and that's another thing that keeps coming
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up. I was just telling one of my buddies today, dragons come up
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every day now in my life. Like I don't know, it's obviously spirit
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like sources like pushing me in the direction of talking about dragons because they keep
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coming up in my life. I mean I even pulled out an old jacket
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that belonged to my dad tonight and it has a dragon on the sleeve.
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Okay, And I was like, Okay, I got to talk about dragons
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because and I need to put that in the pool of like remote viewing targets,
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because there's something about that, and there's there's a reason to get the
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word out on dragons. And also I was given a blind remote viewing target
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by my friend Norma Jean who has a show on Rumble called Residence. And
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I did this remote viewing target and I didn't know what it was. They
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actually put me on the spot. I revealed my data on the spot on
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their show this week and they tell me what it was after I revealed my
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data. It was I was so like on the spot, but it was
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awesome. I was on target and it's an island called Ascension Island and they
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and it looks like a dinosaur or like not a dinosaur dragon. You know,
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Like there's those petrified giants. You're familiar with those, I know,
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surely. And there's like petrified giant dragons all over the world. What's up
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with that? Do you think those were really dragons? Oh yeah, yeah,
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definitely, uh, definitely, giant giant snakes, giant giant reptiles for
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sure, and like yeah, even like the giant people too, is just
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spectacular to see. Like we have one called Sleeping Chief Mountain and Jasper if
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you gotta just google that on your own time, you know what I mean.
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That looks great. Yeah. But as for the blue like we had
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a lot of blue dragon bluish gray dragons out here in Alberta. Uh yeah,
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there were typical gola gon. They they were real huge. They were
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like like they would be like a like a size of a small plane or
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or a little bit bigger like a small jet airliner, you know what I
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mean. And they there, they were flying out here, they were totally
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they were like this is the time of like that would be like the time
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of the animal kingdoms, and they were flying around and and yeah, they're
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like I said, they were. They were around for quite some time,
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along with the with the giant horned serpent, which is uh which is a
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pretty revered one in my area. The horn the horn serpent. Yeah,
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yeah, yeah, the skanic uh me gone is uh is the horn serpent,
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and it's a it's a four legged uh uh large large reptile beast and
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it had like it was also known as a pink feathered pink feathered uh.
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They called it pink feathered panther in some areas, but it was because it
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had large fins, large pink fins on its on its back and down to
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its tail, and it would walk around. It was this huge giant lizard
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and it would just go across the land and just literally care apart buffalos and
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and like yeah, so like there's a couple of stories about like how great
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buffalo was fighting it and then it couldn't fight it, so then the thunderbird
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had to come down and and fight the and fight the great horn serpent.
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And there's like a legend about that, right and uh. But other than
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that, though, the Great horn serpent is kind of like a guardian in
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our area. It's like a natural creature, natural being protector of the land,
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and like we we always if we can, we give offerings every year
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to it, if it, you know, even if it recalls our calls
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to it, or even like like I said, we still pray all the
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time to you know, the I was just gonna say, we always pray
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all the time to the thunderbird. And we we always got you know,
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have our offerings for those beings, and we still have our connections to those
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those those I should say, those parts of our reality. And well just
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tell me about their mythological whole beings. But to people in the know,
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they they existed or they exist to this day. And and I have been
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looking into Griffin's okay, all sorts of interesting things, I mean, including
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dragons, and uh, and why else would dragons be so documented in our
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historical books and paintings and art. We'll see if I can get this to
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come up. Everywhere from the medieval medieval times and even before, there's been
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depictions of dragons, and and they're still depicted in movies and Game of Thrones
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for instance. Right. It's uh, it's it's baffling to say the least
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is to all this hidden history that we have and and things that we're told
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we're told that we're you know, people that talk about that are crazy.
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You know, it's only in uh fairy tales, right right, right,
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Yeah, it's like, yeah, they're very much tied to a lot of
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our teachings of the thunderbird and the dragons of you know that are our teachings
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are mainly tied to water, a lot of water, rain, and lightning
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is the connection to that, you know, and these beings are the dragons
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is very much a symbol of that, you know, of our earth.
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You know, the dragon itself is an Earth's symbol, you know, it
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brings it, It's associated with rains, so water and lightning, fire,
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and it's also representation of the air, uh and these four elements that make
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up our reality, right and so it's a it's very much a connection there
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to to that. And like I said, it's four direction for direction connection
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and our belief. Yeah, there's a lot a lot to that, like
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I was saying, with the with the dragons, and I'm so happy you're
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picking up on that energy too, So yeah, yeah, there's Yeah,
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these these beings they lived harmon harmonously with the people in the lands, though,
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like I said, these were considered guardians and uh, and you know,
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I should say guides and uh. They were also there to help with
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the spiritual healings and different visions and you know, they provided all that.
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Like so when people that there was a drought and stuff like that, people
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are very much connected to thunderbirds. They were able to summon ring and different
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things to help out the lands. And if there was like fires, they
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put them out with thunderbird and different things like in olden times. And and
26:25
these connections like are very much real like in our and our beliefs and then
26:29
in our and our I should say, our practices spiritual practices to this day.
26:33
So and it's and it's not just the indigenous people of the Americas,
26:38
like in Canada and in North America and US, Central America, South America.
26:44
It's all over the world where there are stories of dragons and the dragons
26:48
and the serpent people too. But the dragons in particular, like in Nordic
26:52
myth, the dragons were actually evil, okay to to the people there.
26:56
And I believe it's in India they had the Naugas okay, and those are
27:00
like serpent women, right like Medusa kind of and uh and uh, but
27:06
but they a lot of these are there were revered in a lot of cultures,
27:10
and they lived in like jeweled lines like diamond and emeralds and ruby lined
27:14
caves and stuff like that. But but they guarded the underworld. In most
27:18
cultures, they guard the underworld, or they are just associated with the underworld,
27:23
much like here in well you you're in Canada, Okay, I say
27:26
here in the US, but you're up in Canada. I'm down here in
27:30
the United States. And uh, you know, we we have a lot
27:33
of tales of subterranean reptilians here, just like the the case that I that
27:40
I was remote viewing, it was the Lizard City under Los Angeles. Okay,
27:45
and uh. And I know that's kind of a big topic all over
27:48
social media right now. It's on TikTok. I know that. But but
27:52
when I when I hear of lizard City, I'm thinking of like reptilians,
27:56
right, But a lot of people's account of those lizard people, they were
28:00
actually humans who lived just lived underground, just like lizards would to get away
28:06
from cataclysm cataclysms. Okay and uh. And like you had mentioned before,
28:11
like the cataclysms where the earth was scorched, and I haven't. I don't
28:17
know if I have it right here. Have my notes from my shatle they
28:21
at the Golden Ground, Yeah yeah, okay, from battles. Okay,
28:25
Well, let's see if I have it right here. Okay, Well,
28:29
I can't find it. But then we're talking about a tongue that kissed,
28:33
like a tongue that scorched the earth like something came down from the sky like
28:37
the tip of a tongue of something. It sounded like a dragon to me,
28:41
scorched the earth. And ford was that a thunderbird? It sounded like
28:47
a dragon. Well, the thunderbird is known for its lightning and fire,
28:52
so it was able to shoot lightning and fire like that, and uh,
28:56
it chased a lot of the reptilians underneath the inner Earth. That's a that's
29:00
the original tale with that with the thunderbird's connection to the reptilians and how he
29:03
won the battle for the for the surface up here in the northern area and
29:07
sent all the reptilians back underneath in the inner Earth. Yeah yeah. But
29:15
as for as what you're saying though, like it does sound like like you
29:18
said, it does sound like a dragon. We do consider it like a
29:19
dragon. Some parts of the of our of the tribes and cultures, they
29:23
consider thunderbird to be a dragon. You know, they considered the thunderbird to
29:27
be a scale. Yeah, I had a scale scaled neck and different and
29:32
feathers and like it had like it was part like like had like a dragon
29:36
element to it, like it was like a prehistoric like you know, from
29:38
that time, like a like prehistoric bird dragon dragon bird. Well that's interesting
29:47
because the connection to like chickens and velociraptors or I can't talk tonight, t
29:55
wrecks res okay, like but a chick the connection to like chicken eggs and
30:00
the t rexes, you know, and some say that potentially like a lot
30:04
of the dinosaurs had feathers. Okay, yes, so that's that's kind of
30:10
cool. It's making it's kind of connecting the dots a little bit. Yes,
30:15
yes, am I crazy. I know, I'm a little crazy.
30:18
Oh no, it's it's I'm happy you're seeing these connections. And uh yeah.
30:23
Yeah. As for like the reptilians underground and civilizations, yeah, like
30:27
the cities under under earth, like some of the warriors that they've ventured into
30:33
to never return and uh, they will never let anybody ever see them.
30:36
From what we're told from like a lizard folks people from like years ago.
30:41
They are like saying, no, no one's there, no human ever,
30:42
like no man's that ever go down there see the city or ever return,
30:45
you know, alive or kind of deal. And it's kind of like we
30:51
we've heard stories about them like coming up from the under like from the inner
30:55
Earth, but they had like a technology they were just able to come up
30:57
with like fly up with their ufo through the ground and they came up in
31:02
land and they would just take come out and take women and men would have
31:06
to fight. They go to war with a lot of these reptilians, and
31:07
it was like they were just taking taking women and like destroying like tribes and
31:12
flying back down inner Earth with these women to create human hybrids, like and
31:18
that's where they say, that's where they say, that's where how like Atlantis
31:22
was like invaded, like God got infiltrated because they were able to create these
31:25
human hybrids and send them up to work and be among the people and like
31:29
take positions of power. And that's what they did they got into the spiritual
31:33
spiritual sectors of the Atlantis Pyramids, and they were able to you know,
31:37
change the spirituality so that people were able to lower themselves to the astral they're
31:41
astral, you know, monstrosities would be able to come through the port we
31:47
lower dimensional frequencies and invade people and have it them. And that's where you
31:51
get a lot of the darker spirits like coming into this earth well earthly dimension
31:55
and taking all the folks and you know, creating monsters out of people,
31:59
and it really breaks down the culture and society of people, right and and
32:02
when they start fighting amongst each other and stuff, that's when they were able
32:06
to use a well, it's like an earthquake weapon kind of the ill and
32:10
just leveled the whole Atlantis well, actually was it was lu Maria first.
32:16
The first dragon city was Lumeria to go and then Atlantis. Uh. A
32:21
lot of the extraterrestrials see what happened to in the Maria, and they were
32:23
able to fly off. So they had like dish ships leaving Atlantis just going
32:28
off with like tons of different extresshos from all all across the galaxy and some
32:32
of the extreshows actually took the people. Some like chose to save people and
32:36
bring them over, like Amaramu MoU and he was the guy who took people
32:42
on a sun disk ship and brought him over to the South andies. And
32:45
that's where Atlantis like people went to from Atlantis to South America on a on
32:50
a space ship. And uh, yeah, it's it's a it's a wild
32:53
one, right, but he was able to create that's where a lot of
32:55
them are able to create the Machu Pichu, and a lot of the ancient
32:59
cities act then of that time, and and uh, a lot of the
33:02
other people that went left from Atlantis went to Egypt and so on and so
33:07
forth right, just trickled on all on outwards. And yeah, okay,
33:12
here, okay, let's address this really quick because Gene has a cool point
33:16
and and I was wanting to talk about this tonight anyway. So uh,
33:22
Gen says, I don't believe for one second there are dinosaurs on the planet
33:24
at this time, okay, And uh and now I actually have gotten reports
33:29
of modern day not only terosaurs okay, like pterodactyls all over the country in
33:36
Canada, Central and South America, but also veloc of raptors in the Appalachian
33:40
Mountains. Travis, what do you think about that? And are you familiar
33:45
with those reports? Like I said, there was a lot of a lot
33:50
of those kind of like dinosaurs that were able to you know, withstand this
33:53
kind of northern hemisphere, I should say, And uh, there's a lot
33:58
of those like I should say, those kind of flying dinosaurs being found to
34:00
this day. If you just look up the frozen dragon in Canada, you'll
34:05
find out that there was a flying dinosaur that was that was just as the
34:08
size of a jet jet airliner. And there's still dinosaurs to this date.
34:13
There's still crocodiles, there's still alligators, there's still commodor dragons, there's still
34:17
turtles, there's still sharks. There's still tons of animals that still haven't very
34:22
like they haven't changed very much since that time, you know, including some
34:27
of the bugs and whatnot, right, Like there's grubs and everything, and
34:30
yeah, I mean there's little there's little dinosaurs. Wrote cockroaches have been around
34:35
since the beginning of time, right, just kidding, you can't kill They
34:38
survived nuclear fallout and everything. So yeah, I don't know, it's uh,
34:44
there's nothing. Nothing shocks me nor surprises me to this day. And
34:47
uh, and and the fact that there's stories in the mainstream media, the
34:52
mainstream news coming out about dinosaurs being recreated, reanimated, brought like t rex
35:00
by the like Tyrannosaurus rex. Okay, that's a big one. Why why
35:04
wouldn't they just start out with like a little velociraptor or something like a little
35:07
miniature one, not that velociraptors are little, but a t rex. Come
35:10
on, man, what are you gonna do with it? It's like,
35:13
okay, and this is horrible, right. I had a pet snake.
35:15
I had a pet Boa constrictor. The thing just got way too big,
35:20
and it's like, what do you do with the snake? Wants to get
35:22
that big? A lot of people just let him go. Okay. We
35:24
actually had to like give him to a pet store eventually because he got so
35:29
big, and we had we had babies infants in the house, and so
35:31
we were afraid it was gonna eat eat the babies, you know what I
35:35
mean. So yeah, very much a concern, right, I mean,
35:38
you don't think they're gonna be breeding t rexes and selling them at pets shops,
35:43
do you I'm just kidding. Yeah, it was like black market we
35:51
got we got black market t rexes. Now you know, on the run.
35:55
God, where are we going with this? Let's get back to rep
35:59
too. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's wild, that's all. And
36:07
yeah, there's still a lot of those people, like to this day,
36:09
they don't realize that they're half reptilian, and they are. And then there's
36:14
like some that do know, and they're they just keep it really well hidden.
36:19
There's one case where I should say with this elder of mine, Uh,
36:22
he's telling me that in his time growing up in the mission after he
36:27
was like like because when he was at the mission school as a young man,
36:30
like kid, like you know before he was just a young kid in
36:32
the mission, right, the missionary school and taken away from his parents.
36:37
But when he was taken away during the winter, his parents died and he
36:40
couldn't go back home. So the mission school ended up taking care of him.
36:44
They're raising him until he was sixteen, well until the school was shut
36:46
down. And the school was shut down for you know, other like terrible
36:51
reasons whatever whatnot. And there was like a fire and it burnt down or
36:54
something, and and there's like a real wild story to that too. But
36:59
besides from that, he ended up moving on to the city and he ended
37:02
up living on the streets. And he was sitting out there and on the
37:07
streets, and a lady walked by and she's like, hey, what are
37:08
you doing on the streets here? And you know, he's like, I
37:12
have no place to live, and told her story, and she's like,
37:14
we why don't you come to stay with me? And and you know,
37:16
and he's like, all right, sure, So he didn't think anything of
37:19
it. He started working and paying for things around there and living there for
37:22
a couple of months, and then all of a sudden, she got she
37:24
got like you know, in Tim or she started taking a liking Tim and
37:29
she ended up they ended up, you know, going together. And when
37:31
they were going together, he said he was looking in her eyes and her
37:36
eyes changed, her eyes did the shift thing, and and he that's when
37:40
he knew this woman was there was something like, you know, she she
37:44
was different person, a like a different kind of person. But at the
37:46
time he didn't know what it was. He just thought alligator people because their
37:51
eyes looked at her eyes looked like an alligator. And oh, my gosh.
37:57
Yeah. I mean we've all seen the people on you know, the
38:00
videos that people who are either shape shifters or shape shifting or their eyes like
38:05
new Okay, of all people, Travis, it's like news reporters, okay.
38:08
And I know like it's all kind of melding together now because like I've
38:13
been doing shows on AI clone like AI robots, human clones and reptilians,
38:20
and it's like we see these people that are in the in the media,
38:23
in the on the world stage who are reporting the news, and their eyeballs
38:28
change or you know, they're on stage, it looks like a demon is
38:30
like taking over their body or something while they're performing and singing like famous rappers
38:35
and artists, and it's just what is what in the world is going on
38:39
right now? And before you answer that, thank you Dogface for that other
38:44
super chat. That is so sweet of you and Amy. I saw your
38:46
two. Thank you so much. You guys are rocking out and we got
38:50
another supersticker. I'll thank you as soon as I see your name down here.
38:52
But thank you guys so much. Okay, Politicians too, Travis.
38:58
Politicians, what's going on here? Because yeah, just you go ahead,
39:04
go ahead, we'll have a discussion on it. What do you think,
39:07
Oh, yeah, no, it's a wild one. Like you know,
39:10
there's a lot of these. Yeah, it's it's taken form in a lot
39:15
of you know, you see a lot of the celebrities and whatnot, and
39:17
you know they have their moments there. It's kind of questionable and you know,
39:21
and it's like, you know, is it all? Is it all
39:23
like you know, on purposes? I don't know, right, and but
39:28
you know it is odd when you see it, right, But it is
39:30
to us we always said it was like you know, wash Isshue, they
39:35
spoke with pourk tongues, you know, like and that's that thatre's a there's
39:37
a you know meaning to that, right, you know. And it's there's
39:42
a lot of shape shifters throughout all of our teachings and all of our history,
39:45
you know, you know, from everything from you know, people being
39:49
actual you know, turning into you know, monsters or even to animals themselves,
39:55
right from snakes to all sorts of you know, wolves and coyotes,
40:00
and you know, so it's like for us that kind of like reality is
40:05
it's not it's not a it's not a may belief, you know, like
40:08
there's there's a reality. It's a very much reality to it, you know,
40:13
it's, oh yeah, there's some sort of reality. I don't know.
40:15
I live in a really strange reality right now. And I don't know
40:17
about you guys, but I do and I forgot. Okay, So so
40:22
Dogface, who is in the chat, says Travis, if one wants to
40:25
I don't think. I'm not sure this has to do with reptilians, but
40:28
it says if one wants to give them self to spirit not near the US,
40:32
what is the best way to do? So I'm not I'm not exactly
40:37
sure what that means, but do you understand it? Okay, you do
40:43
to give themselves to spirit, like to honor, honor that life and be
40:46
just to have gratitude and uh and and acknowledging your life that you that you
40:52
wish to uh you know, to be to walk the world with the respect
40:55
you know, and the like, the honor, the wisdom, the love,
41:00
the empathy and the truth of that all you know, and and you
41:05
want to you want to embody that whole like whole wholeheartedly and and just really
41:12
uh, I should say after the blessing, to walk this earth in the
41:17
in the right manner and the right respects that Creator may you to walk it,
41:21
you know. And uh and to be connected with that, you know,
41:25
and and that circle of life. Yeah yeah, oh my gosh,
41:30
we all need to be connected to spirit right now and uh and to have
41:35
a to be connected to something bigger than us because we are living in such
41:39
strange times right now. And uh. And something that I think of when
41:43
I think of the reptilians, okay, and and I hear this a lot,
41:46
and it's that loosh that they thrive off of. And uh. And
41:51
for people in the audience who aren't familiar with loosh, I believe that's like
41:54
the it's like the energy that we put off when we're living in fear and
41:58
we're scared and and it seems like we are inundated. Like just you turn
42:02
on the television and Travis, and it's all fear based stuff like and even
42:07
the shows are all about murder mysteries and kill unliving people and stuff. It's
42:15
like we're on YouTube, so I gotta I gotta say the right lingo,
42:19
but I don't like but it's like first forty eight and like even even like
42:22
the ghost shows that I used to watch. You're like all demonic now,
42:25
like everything is like all demonic, like the the people who are singing,
42:30
and like even like the pop stars are doing like black masks, satanic rituals
42:35
on stage and stuff like it's just so weird. Like I don't know if
42:39
that's that has to do with like the loosh this being made and people are
42:44
and I think people are so hypnotized. I don't even know. They're living
42:45
in fear and they're living in this weird reality where they're feeding into that loosh
42:51
for the reptilians allegedly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's yeah, it
42:57
is definitely what you're saying it is, and it's very much uh, it's
43:00
very much control thing too write, and it fear keeps people. Uh you
43:05
know, I guess like able to control and manipulate, you know, turn
43:10
their I guess their minds that think any way they want them to. Yeah,
43:16
I guess so, Alicia, thank you for that super stecret. That's
43:20
so sweet of you. We appreciate it to be free of that right and
43:22
to be free of to be free of that and uh and like to not
43:28
be to not be held back by our own misguided, false light, preconceived
43:34
thoughts is another one. Just to accept the moment as it is and this
43:37
path that's set before us, and because that's that's that path that universe has
43:43
policed before us is meant for us to learn from, to grow from,
43:45
and to follow that. Yeah, absolutely, I okay, that's great,
43:51
that's great advice. I mean, I try to live in the present moment.
43:52
And I just turned the TV. I don't watch. I watch a
43:55
lot of YouTube. Even YouTube is getting I apologize to everybody watch my channel
44:00
too. I was watching one of my shows, Like I don't like watching
44:01
my shows, but I go back and watch them. In my goodness,
44:05
they put so many commercials in there. That's just a side note, y'all.
44:07
Tonight has nothing to do with this show. I'm sorry, but it's
44:10
just and the commercials they put on there, like they they're kind of they
44:14
make me irritated and stuff too, so and I think that's part of like
44:16
that loose like there's so many people, you know, there's so many people
44:20
watching YouTube today and watching internet shows instead of like having cable TV and stuff,
44:24
and so like they're just infiltrating any way they can get in to keep
44:29
us like irritable and even like the frequency is of like the sound that's in
44:32
our music and and all that stuff. I don't know if that's reptilian based,
44:37
but it could be, you know, definitely totally. And what about
44:45
also, Travis, what about the Royal family being Reptilians? Do you think
44:50
that's real? Do you think that's the thing the Royal family? Yeah,
44:55
all over the world. Yeah, like the Royal family a hybrid hybrid line
45:01
in there for sure. You know, it's definitely, uh been a thought
45:06
that's crossed my mind with that, and uh yeah, there's definitely ties to
45:09
a lot of that and in numerous ways, and there's a lot of you
45:15
know, if you want to look for that, right, it's there.
45:16
But for me, I definitely some ties to that. You know, they
45:22
obviously worship a lot of that and and also to a lot of that reptilian
45:27
ties in uh in the Vatican in itself, right, you know, the
45:30
whole Vatican itself is shaped like a big sneakhead and and yeah, yeah,
45:35
there's there's a few things. Yeah, there's a few things in there that
45:37
are that are you know, drinking of the blood and eating of the body,
45:42
and stuff like that. They're kind of a little bit you know,
45:44
on the scale of reptilian side, but you know, it's how people look
45:46
at it, right, Like I said, it's there, it's there a
45:50
way of uh it's their way of doing things, and uh, you know,
45:55
like I said, it's very much reptilian vibes. That are that people
46:00
you know, just grown grown, I guess sublind to because they've just been
46:05
brought up that way or have seen things that way, you know, all
46:07
their time. Right, Well, it's ingreened. I mean when it when
46:10
it's in our you know, religious places of worship, you know. I
46:15
mean I've seen that there is a it's definitely a serpent's head in the Vatican
46:21
in that worship hall. Absolutely it looks like a snake. I mean there's
46:25
a lot of stuff stuff going on in some of those buildings. I'm just
46:30
saying, I don't know, I don't want to get to I don't want
46:31
to get political here, but it's but it's true. And in w Becker
46:36
thank you so much, he says, Travis always radiates such a positive energy
46:39
and presence. I really appreciate him sharing with us and always makes me smile.
46:43
Thank you. He makes me smile too, Okay, Yeah, Travis,
46:46
Like I know that we talk about like the stuff that could be so
46:49
like terrible and stuff, but you know, we're doing this with a smile
46:52
on our face and trying to not that we're trying to put a spin like
46:58
a good light on it at all, but it's just putting it out there.
47:00
And yeah, many used to convey the message, right, yeah,
47:07
so many And uh yeah, I mean if we're not laughing, we're crying,
47:10
okay, right, yeah, Okay. So I came across some stories,
47:20
okay, of like indigenous stories here from in in like the US basically
47:25
of like the Sioux Native American tribe, the Aztecs, I believe it's down
47:30
in Central America and uh hope, okay, And in the Siouxe Sue nation,
47:37
there's a tale of three brothers that turn into rattlesnakes. They lived and
47:40
they lived below ground and they helped their ancestors okay. And the Astecs have
47:46
something called the mcclon or McLean I think, and uh, and it says
47:51
a story about the underworld and the serpent people and the Hope. I have
47:54
a story about a young man who ventured to the underworld. He married a
47:58
snake princess uh, and they emerged from the inner Earth below the Grand Canyon,
48:04
by the way, And I mean there's the stories go on and on,
48:07
okay, And the Grand Canyon is interesting within itself because there's so much,
48:13
like I've heard for years about the Reptilian races and the subterranean you know,
48:17
under the underground here and the ant people. It's not just the Reptilians,
48:22
it's like the ant people too, And and we haven't have ancient Egyptian
48:24
settlement settlements. There's there's evidence of the Egyptians living in the Grand Canyon underground
48:30
as well. Well. The you know, it's late. Like I said,
48:36
the there's a lot of those tales that talk about them going underneath the
48:39
ground and being being into civilizations underneath the earth, of them emerging. Uh
48:49
Mantaua was a great hunter who actually chased some of them into the portal that
48:52
went back down in the inner Earth and had a great fight down there and
48:57
stuff. And and yeah, it's it's it's well known about about like the
49:02
Snake brothers and different and different snake warriors that have returned back to the clans
49:07
and stuff like that from from such esoteric blessings and different things. What I'm
49:14
saying is like, not all the reptilians that are bad, or all the
49:16
all the you know, all the it's just the ones that were kicked out
49:22
of their dimension that came here that wanted to infiltrate into the lower realms just
49:24
so they can infect our our dimensional frequency and lower everyone down. That's what
49:30
I'm saying, is that that those ones that want to seep into what's good
49:34
and destroy it is what is what we got to be careful of, right
49:39
because it's there. It even tries to get into the minds of man with
49:43
greed and uh, you know, simple like I want what you have and
49:46
U are you know that kind of mentality of h of we we take and
49:52
we we don't give back, you know to the earth that whole, that
49:54
mentality that we like society has made us all become so uh apart of right,
50:00
like the this constant consumption and uh and no give back, right,
50:05
no respects, and and that's what it was. It was, It was
50:12
that mentality of like, it's the idea that we are above it all when
50:16
we have more in common with that dirt on the ground out there, you
50:19
know, like when people say that they're the son of God and the daughter
50:22
of God or whatever. And in reality and native belief, we don't believe
50:27
that we're more connected with everything that you know, that treout there, that
50:30
grass that you know, that dirt I just said, you know that rock,
50:32
you know, like those those things are more connected to us. We
50:35
are more connected to that than we'll ever be with the great creation, you
50:38
know. And you know, so we're more like it's like we're more like
50:45
on alignment with a lot of the star nations and the star beings, because
50:50
that's just how it is. It's like it's not to be looked at it
50:52
like like you're above something or above everything else, like with the the world,
50:57
you know. And that's where a lot of the teaching gets it wrong
50:59
too. Yeah, okay, so and okay, so let's we only have
51:04
a few more minutes tonight. So I'm trying to think of like the key
51:07
points that I wanted to talk about before we go tonight. Okay, So,
51:10
with the reptilian races of people, like the ones that I looked into
51:15
when I was remote viewing the Lizard City under Los Angeles. Okay, Dennis
51:22
and I, Dennis, Carol and I had a really interesting conversation about that
51:24
because a lot of people say, well, that's kind of the the reasoning
51:29
for people to say, well, the reptilians are in Los Angeles, we
51:31
have like actual reptilian humanoids there. Some people say it was just humans that
51:36
lived underground, okay, to escape the cataclysm of that fire. Okay,
51:40
but they said that the people that were there, whichever they were, my
51:45
remote viewing data said they were humanoids, and they had an ET background extraterrestrial,
51:50
but not extraterrestrials in like from the stars. They were actually from Inner
51:52
Earth. Yeah, okay, yeah, and a lot of ETS and a
51:55
lot of the things that we're I'm looking into these days. They have Inner
51:59
Earth Earth, you know, origins, which is really wild because I always
52:04
saw the ETS came from outer space. Travis. Okay. But they also
52:08
said, okay, so so some of the articles that I read after I
52:10
had remote viewed that, we're saying that I forgot the guy's name who found
52:15
that that found the city down there. They were saying that the race was
52:20
so advanced of these lizard people, they were way smarter like a nine year
52:24
old child was a smart at least as smart or more smart than an adult
52:29
human was today that it had a college education. Now I have a college
52:31
education. I don't think I'm that smart sometimes, Okay, yeah, they
52:37
were just saying, you know, yeah, yeah they were smart. They
52:40
used the natural ocean waterways that like had need a lot of the honeycomb effect
52:47
a lot. A lot of the end people had used a lot of that
52:50
process too, and made a lot of their homes and such places and like
52:53
thieves caverns in the inner Earth. And yeah, they're very smart for doing
52:58
that. A lot of the of those places have got have been destroyed as
53:01
of recently with all the recent activities and seismic activities and different things around the
53:06
earth. But yeah, like, yeah, there was a lot of those
53:09
kingdoms that existed for a long times, you know, like alligator kingdoms and
53:13
different kind of like uh, prehistoric kingdoms. Like those birds. That's how
53:16
I imagine you're spotting them. That's probably where they're flying out from, you
53:20
know, is inner Earth, if anything, where those birds came from,
53:23
uh or or even like I said, Earth too probably could have like like
53:30
I said, of land, distant land out there, because our elders always
53:32
said that thunderbird would fly to a distant land where it was very unreachable for
53:37
any human to ever get to, and they were and it would come back
53:39
whenever it wanted to like that, and soar across the lands and so like
53:43
these like the dragons and birds would always go to this land right yeah,
53:52
a big yeah, yeah, big oasis out there. Okay, wow,
53:58
see, thank you for that, super chat man, you guys is so
54:00
generous tonight. Thank you to everybody in the in the chat tonight for all
54:02
of your donations and uh yeah for all the support. Travis, everybody you
54:07
like, I said, you're a fan favorite here a space out radio for
54:10
sure, and we appreciate that. A matter of fact, Don Faces Travis
54:17
is my favorite s R guest in the history of history. Never missed that.
54:22
Excellent. I appreciate that so much. I'm happy I can come on
54:24
here and talk and share some of these, you know, teachings and stories
54:28
from the past and uh you know, and talk a little bit of insight
54:31
into it. And yeah. The the horn Surpent is a is a very
54:36
much a rock carving that our people have done in the lower areas of Canmore,
54:39
you know, just along the river there. And yeah that that,
54:45
like I said, it's very much all these dragons and serpents are very much
54:49
old guardians from the ancient time like that, you know, pretty much like
54:52
the spirit of Earth in the crystals and and amongst the other spirits that chose
54:57
to give themselves up and make it as well, right, and uh,
55:00
yeah, it's it's it's a lot a lot we went over in the one
55:04
hour. I'm happy that I got to come on and share it and thank
55:07
you so much, Jessica. Absolutely. Okay, one, we've got a
55:10
couple of minutes left. What what would be your device if if anyone that
55:15
is watching tonight or listening over podcasts wherever they're hearing this, what does any
55:20
advice you'd give somebody if they were to encounter what they believed to be was
55:22
a riptilian? Should they be scared? No, don't, don't allow to
55:27
fear. And and uh, also too, there's a lot of tales of
55:30
them. They're able to hypnotize people and make them fall in love with them,
55:35
and know people have no control over it, you know, and so
55:37
that's another thing like eye contact and things like that are very powerful things that
55:42
could, uh you know, like petrifire or hypnotize somebody to that sense.
55:49
Oh my gosh, well that that's the same with a lot of cryptids that
55:52
I study. A lot of them have that telepathic ability to really hypnotize people.
55:57
And uh yeah, so you guys watch out, y'all, watch for
56:00
those pupils to go slitty. Okay, sliddy, yeah for sure, right
56:06
when the eyes go slitty. Oh my god, that's a great saying.
56:08
We should make some T shirts or something. Okay, but okay, Travis,
56:13
this has been amazing, What a great show tonight. Thank you so
56:15
much for coming on here with me. And where where can people find you?
56:20
I know that my audience would love to you know, I know you
56:22
have artwork that you make, And do you have a website or Facebook page
56:27
where people could follow you? Yeah? I have. I have a Facebook
56:30
page. I have Travis Willier Actor, Writer, Painter. That's where you
56:35
can find a lot of different sketches and paintings that I've put up. I
56:37
also have a full four directions Eupho Society on Facebook as well, and then
56:43
on YouTube. I have Blue Lightning Cards Readings. It's where I do readings
56:47
with tear cards and stuff, and I talk on some of these subjects and
56:52
uh yeah, that's pretty much where I'm at right now with this all so
56:57
sweet blue Lightning Oracle Cards. I love your video for that too. I
57:00
too read oracle cards. I haven't done it in a while, but it's
57:04
my favorite, so I love that. I appreciate that. Yeah, well,
57:07
Travis, will you promise me you'll come back and hang out with us
57:10
again soon? And I love you. I love you all right. Any
57:15
time you see me, yeah, anytime you see me hitting on some kind
57:20
of crazy topic and uh and you guys have infoot, just holler at me
57:22
and we'll do a show, okay for sure. And uh yeah, thank
57:27
you so much. You're amazing. Okay, awesome, Travis. Wellten,
57:30
have a great night. I will see you next time on Space Out Radio.
57:35
Okay, thanks Travis. Okay, see all right, y'all. That
57:39
was amazing. Thank you guys so much. Let me take these comments down.
57:43
Oh my gosh, thank you guys so much for all the love and
57:44
support tonight, all the donations, all the super chats and the superstickers.
57:49
It means the world to me and everybody here at Space Out Radio. Yeah,
57:52
don't forget that. Right after the show, Rob Get Rob has a
57:57
great show set up for us over after hours, So let's go over there,
58:00
y'all, come hang out in the chat tonight and tomorrow night. I
58:05
have my friend Barry Littleton coming on. We're gonna have Barry on and I'm
58:09
not exactly sure. We have so many topics to cover tomorrow I'm not gonna
58:14
put my finger on one, okay, but yeah, Very's and I always
58:17
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58:43
will see you guys tomorrow night. Y'all have a great night. Stay safe
58:47
out there, and watch for those slitty eyes when they get slitty. It's getting litty