Latest / Cats & Pudding with Jennifer Dilandro / Steve Stanulis - Cop, Stripper, Kanye's Ex Body Guard
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- 0:00Speaker 1: He was talking to call what's all this the west?
- 0:03Speaker 1: He walks by, slams the door in my face.
- 0:05Speaker 2: This is Kats in Pudding Podcast.
- 0:10Speaker 1: Melting and now here's jan.
- 0:14Speaker 2: Good afternoon, everybody, and welcome to the first ever episode
- 0:17Speaker 2: of Cats and Pudding. My name is Jennifer Delandro and
- 0:21Speaker 2: we are doing our first podcast today. This is amazing
- 0:24Speaker 2: And I have a wonderful guest here, my friend Steve Stanalis.
- 0:28Speaker 1: That's close.
- 0:28Speaker 2: I always say his name wrong, Stan.
- 0:30Speaker 1: You Luck, stan you Liz, But that's okay. Why did
- 0:33Speaker 1: they call this cat's importing anyway?
- 0:35Speaker 2: Well, because look, I'm glamorous girl. You know, I'm always
- 0:39Speaker 2: looking great. I look like I always look like Carrie Bradshaw.
- 0:42Speaker 2: But at night it's just Captain pudding from my baby.
- 0:44Speaker 2: That's it. I'm just petting my cats, eat my pudding,
- 0:46Speaker 2: stroking them. That's it.
- 0:48Speaker 1: Really, Yeah, be honest, when you asked me to be
- 0:50Speaker 1: on Cats and Pudding, I had no idea what I
- 0:53Speaker 1: was getting myself into. But here I here, I stand.
- 0:56Speaker 2: And I'm glad that you're here, and the first guest
- 0:58Speaker 2: I know, that's exciting.
- 1:00Speaker 1: I have Sike totally excited to be here.
- 1:02Speaker 2: So let me ask you something, Steve, you are, Steve is,
- 1:04Speaker 2: this is He's He's got an amazing story. Steve is
- 1:07Speaker 2: a stripper, slash cop, slash movie producer, slash actor. And
- 1:14Speaker 2: you have a big, big show that's on to b
- 1:17Speaker 2: right now, first season right correct, and now you're ready
- 1:19Speaker 2: to shoot the next season. I'm going to be in
- 1:21Speaker 2: by the way, I'm excited.
- 1:22Speaker 1: Yes you are. Yes, Well, just to clarify, I'm not
- 1:25Speaker 1: all that today. I started out a chipping nails when
- 1:29Speaker 1: I was eighteen and then got called by the NYPD.
- 1:33Speaker 2: So back then your you ran into your g string.
- 1:36Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, it was a whole crazy story.
- 1:38Speaker 1: But I was a cop in the nineties, so there
- 1:42Speaker 1: was on social media, so I was able to strip
- 1:45Speaker 1: and still be a cop. So they used to say
- 1:47Speaker 1: I would take care of the bad guy's door today
- 1:50Speaker 1: and the bad girls at night.
- 1:51Speaker 2: Wow.
- 1:51Speaker 1: And then while was that whole thing, I actually.
- 1:55Speaker 2: Uh, you took care of a lot of I know you.
- 1:58Speaker 1: Probably more bad girls at night than bad guys.
- 2:00Speaker 2: I'm sure you made more made it with more women
- 2:02Speaker 2: than made it, I guarantee most likely.
- 2:05Speaker 1: And then uh, and then I got into working security
- 2:08Speaker 1: with Leonardo DiCaprio back in the nineties when he was
- 2:11Speaker 1: like going out every night and uh yeah, so that's
- 2:14Speaker 1: how I got into the whole film industry. So yeah,
- 2:16Speaker 1: I mean it was very forrest, gumpy.
- 2:18Speaker 2: And uh type of just fell into it.
- 2:20Speaker 1: I fell into each thing. So the girls at night, Yeah, no,
- 2:25Speaker 1: kidd I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Let's drink, let's have.
- 2:27Speaker 2: A tone, let's have a toast to that. How many women.
- 2:31Speaker 1: Jean Simmons don't have much of a wow edge on me? Wow,
- 2:35Speaker 1: that's all. That's only because of I have the access.
- 2:37Speaker 1: It's not that I'm you know, I just happened to have.
- 2:40Speaker 2: What clubs did you work in?
- 2:42Speaker 1: Wow? Well we first we started the Ship of Dale.
- 2:45Speaker 1: It was on sixty first and first and then uh
- 2:48Speaker 1: we went into the whole circuit. So you know, people
- 2:51Speaker 1: that are old enough, I was at Birch Hail in
- 2:52Speaker 1: New Jersey called Abyss. Uh. So you've escaped Long Island, the.
- 2:59Speaker 2: Whole gam But how did it like work at you know,
- 3:01Speaker 2: as being a police officer and then jumping into you know,
- 3:04Speaker 2: going stripping at night. I mean, right now, with this
- 3:06Speaker 2: day and age, you would never.
- 3:07Speaker 1: Be I'd be fired immediately.
- 3:09Speaker 2: But but I'm sure, I mean as many clubs as
- 3:12Speaker 2: you were in, so people might have known you and spot.
- 3:15Speaker 1: And the cool thing was when I was so I
- 3:18Speaker 1: went to college. I met a dude that first day's class.
- 3:22Speaker 2: They actually be a stripper.
- 3:23Speaker 1: No, he would, No, he happened to work at Chippendale's
- 3:25Speaker 1: and I was looking for a job. He's like, you know,
- 3:27Speaker 1: I was always into working out, so he's like, uh,
- 3:30Speaker 1: you know, would you be interested in going to you know,
- 3:33Speaker 1: working at Chippendale. So I'm like, I guess, So I went.
- 3:37Speaker 1: I went to the show and he came out and
- 3:39Speaker 1: it was like three hundred girls and he would randomly hump.
- 3:44Speaker 2: I went to Chippendales. I don't even want to admit it,
- 3:46Speaker 2: but he would hump every girl.
- 3:48Speaker 1: They would give him with money say thank you, And
- 3:50Speaker 1: I'm like.
- 3:50Speaker 2: So, are you saying that you got paid for sacks?
- 3:52Speaker 1: No? No, I don't mean physically hump them. I just
- 3:55Speaker 1: mean jump on them, do all these different things, and
- 3:58Speaker 1: girls would say thanks and put money in the Now.
- 4:00Speaker 2: Mean, well, you would arrest somebody if they did that
- 4:02Speaker 2: in the street on a girl.
- 4:04Speaker 1: Well, I get technically technically, but girls a lot worse guys.
- 4:10Speaker 1: I mean, if you go like a maview, awful, it's
- 4:13Speaker 1: like fresh meat.
- 4:14Speaker 2: I don't even think that's awful. I think they just
- 4:16Speaker 2: they're just they're just out there.
- 4:17Speaker 1: No, they're just girls like get crazy.
- 4:19Speaker 2: But they let lowis when they're out.
- 4:20Speaker 1: When you're in a you know, a go go bar
- 4:23Speaker 1: or a strip club. But again, when you go to
- 4:29Speaker 1: a strip club, uh, you know, the guys just kind
- 4:31Speaker 1: of laid back, you know what I mean, It's it's
- 4:33Speaker 1: a totally different vibe.
- 4:35Speaker 2: Going to work at it. Well, I mean, I like
- 4:37Speaker 2: I said, I don't want to admit it, but I
- 4:38Speaker 2: have been to chiplingto.
- 4:39Speaker 1: I wasn't wouldn't want to admit it.
- 4:40Speaker 2: It was it was fun.
- 4:42Speaker 1: It's still huge.
- 4:44Speaker 2: It's still really is right now.
- 4:45Speaker 1: It's Vegas now, but a huge huge. I mean I'm
- 4:48Speaker 1: still going to get married. That girls are still getting divorced.
- 4:51Speaker 2: If somebody asked you to do a to do a
- 4:53Speaker 2: party for them, would just this day. I mean, you're.
- 4:56Speaker 1: Celebrat have to shave again, And.
- 5:02Speaker 2: That's what I was going to ask you.
- 5:03Speaker 1: You know I had to.
- 5:05Speaker 2: Well now you can lay it with me.
- 5:06Speaker 1: Now I can't. Actually, you don't about that. I got
- 5:09Speaker 1: pulls up.
- 5:10Speaker 2: You get like like raisin burns on your ass when
- 5:12Speaker 2: you do that.
- 5:13Speaker 1: You know what, did I have to have somebody to
- 5:15Speaker 1: do it for me? I can't shave my own ass,
- 5:17Speaker 1: so I actually, you know, I had a.
- 5:19Speaker 2: Job, a job, a job, opportunity shaving. Let's let's not
- 5:24Speaker 2: shaving your own as shave your own ass.
- 5:28Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, everybody. Yes, no, but yes, so
- 5:30Speaker 1: I got by somebody shaved my ass because.
- 5:34Speaker 2: And your wife is okay with you? Were you married?
- 5:37Speaker 2: So okay, let's go back.
- 5:39Speaker 1: I was married numerous times and I would never think
- 5:44Speaker 1: but I'm not that proud of it. But I met
- 5:48Speaker 1: ironically both of my wives and the strip club have
- 5:50Speaker 1: male reviews.
- 5:52Speaker 2: And how was that?
- 5:53Speaker 1: Well?
- 5:54Speaker 2: Did she make you strip every night?
- 5:55Speaker 1: Feel my car? Wife? She was at a Batchelrett party
- 6:00Speaker 1: at a cousin's bachelor party, and she had seen me
- 6:03Speaker 1: a show years ago and ironically has a At the
- 6:06Speaker 1: end of the each show, we would take polaroid pictures
- 6:09Speaker 1: again dating myself. The girls would come up. We would
- 6:11Speaker 1: charge twenty dollars and she would sit on the guy's
- 6:13Speaker 1: lap and be surrounded by the guys. Right, So she
- 6:16Speaker 1: met me years ago.
- 6:17Speaker 2: So she was she was. She was a photo check
- 6:19Speaker 2: in the club. I used to do that too, I
- 6:20Speaker 2: used to No, she.
- 6:22Speaker 1: Just happened to be a patron, sat on my lap
- 6:24Speaker 1: and liked me. But I was already married at the time. Whatever.
- 6:27Speaker 1: Fast forward, she goes to another show and now I'm
- 6:30Speaker 1: single and she she's like, oh, didn't you used to
- 6:33Speaker 1: dance and whatever? So yeah, so it was weird because
- 6:36Speaker 1: my mother.
- 6:36Speaker 2: In law the shows.
- 6:39Speaker 1: They all seen my ass. So it was a weird.
- 6:40Speaker 2: Sunday and they know how big, they know how big
- 6:43Speaker 2: John Well.
- 6:43Speaker 1: Yeah, well again, yes, there was no hiding in it.
- 6:45Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't hide, like, yeah, you better marry him. Yeah,
- 6:49Speaker 2: he's probably got fast swimmers.
- 6:50Speaker 1: They had a tripod. But but no, like see these
- 6:54Speaker 1: things at the count. You can't see them on the camera.
- 6:56Speaker 1: But yes, I'm like this, no but no. But anyhow,
- 6:58Speaker 1: it's a weird thing to go to a Sunday dinner.
- 7:02Speaker 2: Yeah, especially when your mother in law and your yeah has.
- 7:06Speaker 1: Seen you in a thumb. Yeah, I mean it's it's
- 7:10Speaker 1: it's definite an icebreaker. But uh, but again, not to
- 7:14Speaker 1: be all over the map. When I first got asked
- 7:17Speaker 1: to work for security, for Leo the club. No. But
- 7:22Speaker 1: what happened was I was we had a mutual friend
- 7:26Speaker 1: who is his money manager. Yes, yes, and he is. No.
- 7:31Speaker 1: He asked me to meet DiCaprio, who was interested in work,
- 7:34Speaker 1: you know, be working. And I showed up late. And
- 7:37Speaker 1: this is nineteen nine nine, is right after Titanic, and
- 7:41Speaker 1: I had nothing, you know, I had no ambition to
- 7:44Speaker 1: be in the movie industry. And uh he was like
- 7:47Speaker 1: the biggest star in Hollywood and I'm a stripper cop.
- 7:49Speaker 1: So we were nothing in common other than I had
- 7:52Speaker 1: told my a cl So he's like, oh my god,
- 7:56Speaker 1: I told my a cl on basketball diaries? Do you
- 7:58Speaker 1: mind if I see your scar?
- 8:01Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, you want to see something else?
- 8:03Speaker 1: No, no, but I said, it's sure, as long as you
- 8:05Speaker 1: don't mind the G string I'm wearing. And I pulled
- 8:07Speaker 1: my fucking pants down and I'm sitting at a thumb
- 8:10Speaker 1: and that was it.
- 8:11Speaker 2: That that song, I would think that would break the ice.
- 8:15Speaker 1: And then and then I just broke the ice and
- 8:20Speaker 1: I became Leo's guy.
- 8:21Speaker 2: And not only broke the ice, you freaking destroyed it.
- 8:25Speaker 1: I keep right through. But but the point was, and
- 8:27Speaker 1: then I just sort of work with him on a
- 8:28Speaker 1: regular basis.
- 8:29Speaker 2: Is he a nice guy?
- 8:30Speaker 1: He's great if you know him. I mean he's got
- 8:33Speaker 1: a circle of people, and once you're in that circle,
- 8:37Speaker 1: he's awesome. You know, he's a great guy.
- 8:39Speaker 2: And I don't see him going to strip clubs. I don't.
- 8:41Speaker 1: No, no, no, he didn't. You know, you know reason he's like,
- 8:44Speaker 1: you don't need to go to strip club But again,
- 8:45Speaker 1: I was there in the night night ninety nine where
- 8:48Speaker 1: he was going out every.
- 8:48Speaker 2: Night, So it was cool a kid, I mean, he.
- 8:52Speaker 1: Was right right. I'll have to give you a picture
- 8:54Speaker 1: baby later of us ninety nine together.
- 8:57Speaker 2: I saw that picture.
- 8:58Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah, we went out every night and I
- 9:01Speaker 1: got to literally do everything they did. And it was
- 9:05Speaker 1: easier because I wasn't six was hanging.
- 9:07Speaker 2: Out with that. He was hanging out with like Johnny
- 9:09Speaker 2: DApp And it.
- 9:10Speaker 1: Was actually called the Pussy Posse. Really, yes it was.
- 9:13Speaker 1: It was Leo q, Tip Lucas Hans, Toby Maguire and
- 9:21Speaker 1: David David Blaine. Oh yeah, and.
- 9:24Speaker 2: We haven't heard that name. He hasn't been in any movies.
- 9:27Speaker 1: No, he's more of an illusionist brought uh but yeah,
- 9:30Speaker 1: and uh, we had we had. You know, it was
- 9:32Speaker 1: cool because I was part of the crew because I
- 9:36Speaker 1: looked I looked like part of the crew because I'm
- 9:37Speaker 1: not this big gorilla, but I could always had my
- 9:41Speaker 1: looking guys. Shield would just tell them, you know, somebody
- 9:45Speaker 1: came and bothered us. They were like, oh, I'm sorry, officer,
- 9:48Speaker 1: and they would leave. You know, so they love that.
- 9:51Speaker 2: They like that.
- 9:51Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So that was that was my whole, you
- 9:54Speaker 1: know Leo thing.
- 9:54Speaker 2: And then when you started to you started to bodyguard
- 9:58Speaker 2: or do security for Leo, then you started going into
- 10:01Speaker 2: a security for other stars.
- 10:02Speaker 1: Well, what happened was in ninety nine because I was
- 10:04Speaker 1: with Leo, anybody who's bigger ninety nine wanted me.
- 10:07Speaker 2: Oh and you know the guy that knows that we
- 10:09Speaker 2: know together, he was in.
- 10:10Speaker 1: Jail with Yes, yeah right right, But so I worked
- 10:13Speaker 1: with Atlantis.
- 10:15Speaker 2: How is she to work as check?
- 10:19Speaker 1: Anybody who's bigger than nineties, Ben Affleck all those guys.
- 10:25Speaker 1: So so yeah, it was it was all because I
- 10:28Speaker 1: was with Leo.
- 10:31Speaker 2: And you did that all through like how many years did.
- 10:33Speaker 1: You that for like a year. But what happened is
- 10:35Speaker 1: I did a party. I went to a party and
- 10:38Speaker 1: I met this this guy named Dylan Cellars, and he's
- 10:41Speaker 1: a Brooklyn guy and he's a producer and we kind
- 10:44Speaker 1: of hit it off right away, and he's like, do
- 10:47Speaker 1: you play football. I'm like, yeah, I played in high school.
- 10:50Speaker 1: And he's like, I'm doing this movie with Keanu Reeves
- 10:52Speaker 1: and Gene Ackman called The Replacements.
- 10:55Speaker 2: I just watched that movie. That's so fun.
- 10:56Speaker 1: I said, yeah, okay. So the following week I'm in Baltimore,
- 11:00Speaker 1: Maryland with Gene. Happened and and.
- 11:03Speaker 2: And I love that reason I love he was such
- 11:06Speaker 2: a great Yeah he's still yeah.
- 11:08Speaker 1: And that's how my acting career started.
- 11:11Speaker 2: Wow, so amazing. You just kind of felt as far
- 11:14Speaker 2: as Gump they fell into and then you got to
- 11:18Speaker 2: go throughout the years you were also acting and still
- 11:21Speaker 2: doing security.
- 11:22Speaker 1: No, no, no, I got away from that for a long time.
- 11:24Speaker 2: So now you're doing Okay, So now you're going away
- 11:26Speaker 2: from the security and now you're acting. Now you're getting
- 11:29Speaker 2: you know, you're making your own you know, making your
- 11:31Speaker 2: own bones in Hollywood, right and film? And then what happens?
- 11:35Speaker 2: How did you wind up with Kanye? Because that was
- 11:37Speaker 2: that's the big deal with you, is you had this
- 11:38Speaker 2: whole thing with Kanye right, we did a We're actually
- 11:42Speaker 2: I did a we did a documentary together, but it
- 11:46Speaker 2: was with you, and it's called Fifteen Days with Kanye.
- 11:49Speaker 2: And this is the reason. Now, tell tell me why
- 11:53Speaker 2: how he winds up with him?
- 11:54Speaker 1: So make a long, boring story short. You know now
- 11:59Speaker 1: that I was an act there and I retired from
- 12:01Speaker 1: the police abarment. You know, I just had three kids
- 12:04Speaker 1: in like two years, so I was you know sometimes
- 12:08Speaker 1: when you were in the acting industry, you know, you
- 12:10Speaker 1: wait for your next kig. So a friend of mine
- 12:14Speaker 1: called me up. He's like, would you be interested in
- 12:16Speaker 1: working with Kanye West? You're probably not going to last,
- 12:20Speaker 1: but would you be interested to work with him? So
- 12:21Speaker 1: I said, yeah, yeah.
- 12:22Speaker 2: Fine, And it wasn't for the metcal right was no.
- 12:26Speaker 1: It was the second time I worked with him twelve times.
- 12:29Speaker 1: So so basically, you know, I I go when I
- 12:32Speaker 1: meet Kanye, and I was assigned to Kim Kardeshian.
- 12:36Speaker 2: So okay, so you with Kim and signed the kid.
- 12:40Speaker 1: So what happened was and how is.
- 12:42Speaker 2: She She's nice? Yeah, she seems like she's nice.
- 12:45Speaker 1: She's she's definitely cool. And then what happened was Kim
- 12:49Speaker 1: comes in and I go, hey, Kim, I'm Steve. I'll
- 12:53Speaker 1: be working with you, and didn't like that. Well, I said,
- 12:56Speaker 1: I you know, I just want to let him know
- 12:58Speaker 1: who I was. But I'll be working all week with
- 13:00Speaker 1: you for the whole fashion week. Uh, and you know
- 13:04Speaker 1: you need anything, I'm here And that's how I'm all
- 13:06Speaker 1: fucking creepy dude.
- 13:08Speaker 2: Right, So we're just hanging around here.
- 13:09Speaker 1: Yeah, so that was a professional. So then I get
- 13:12Speaker 1: a not cold overbody, an assistant, and she's like, uh uh,
- 13:20Speaker 1: Kanye don't want you talking to Kim.
- 13:22Speaker 2: Well, I mean I.
- 13:23Speaker 1: Said, what you are the looking dude?
- 13:26Speaker 2: I mean fashion Like, can I meet you later? Let's
- 13:32Speaker 2: get a rule.
- 13:33Speaker 1: So I got reassigned to Kanye.
- 13:35Speaker 2: Well, that's you know, that's that's his his zego. You're
- 13:38Speaker 2: looking again.
- 13:40Speaker 1: I thank you for the comment, but again it would
- 13:41Speaker 1: just be you know, I'm sure they work with a
- 13:43Speaker 1: thousand guys and the looking guys or whatever. But the
- 13:46Speaker 1: point was he had it out for me, and then
- 13:48Speaker 1: I started working with him, and then there was a
- 13:50Speaker 1: lot of crazy incidents with him and I that were
- 13:52Speaker 1: well documented in the press.
- 13:55Speaker 2: You guys have to watch the documentary, but tell him
- 13:58Speaker 2: one one good story. I like the I like the
- 14:01Speaker 2: one with the hotel room.
- 14:02Speaker 1: All right, So so make a long story short. He
- 14:07Speaker 1: was in the in the music studio about three four
- 14:10Speaker 1: in the morning, and let's just say he wasn't sober
- 14:14Speaker 1: and we had to go back to the Waldorf Towers.
- 14:17Speaker 1: So when we got to the elevator in the towers,
- 14:20Speaker 1: I knew where his room was.
- 14:22Speaker 2: I knew, and he clearly didn't know, because.
- 14:24Speaker 1: We clearly decided that his room wasn't that way, it
- 14:29Speaker 1: was the other way.
- 14:30Speaker 2: So I might listen, I'm not going to and it
- 14:32Speaker 2: was going right, So.
- 14:34Speaker 1: I sorry, let's go to the room. So we go.
- 14:37Speaker 2: We're another bodyguard would do this, okay. I would just
- 14:40Speaker 2: think that he would have a whole entourage of bodyguards.
- 14:42Speaker 2: I wouldn't think they would just have one.
- 14:44Speaker 1: That's well, I mean there is when you know, when
- 14:45Speaker 1: he's outside, but just night, so so make along short
- 14:51Speaker 1: of it. We pull up on these two Italian guys,
- 14:54Speaker 1: two Italian security guys, uh, that are protecting this Italian
- 14:58Speaker 1: dignitary in the in the room, and they're standing sitting outside.
- 15:02Speaker 2: This is this guy's right.
- 15:06Speaker 1: So you know, we start getting into like this yelling match,
- 15:10Speaker 1: and he's like, I'll missed the West. They have no
- 15:12Speaker 1: idea who he is.
- 15:12Speaker 2: And I'm like, so Againish speak.
- 15:17Speaker 1: I don't speak Italian. So he gets into this big,
- 15:20Speaker 1: you know, Gillo fiasco, and and the security from the
- 15:24Speaker 1: hotel comes or whatever and they're like, oh, you know,
- 15:27Speaker 1: miss Kanye, mister West, your rooms the other way and everything.
- 15:32Speaker 1: But yeah, but I mean, you know, this was an
- 15:34Speaker 1: ongoing thing all the time. But with all that being said,
- 15:38Speaker 1: they called me back. He recommended me to come back
- 15:41Speaker 1: for the meccala, and that's when the whole thing happened.
- 15:43Speaker 2: And then he kind of tell you not to come
- 15:45Speaker 2: to the Metcala too. Well that means when I don't
- 15:48Speaker 2: bother showing up, was it.
- 15:50Speaker 1: The whole week? And then when it was time to
- 15:52Speaker 1: go to the met Gala, I had to tell Kim
- 15:54Speaker 1: that they wanted like some sort of sports car last
- 15:58Speaker 1: minute and we couldn't get one. We had to go
- 16:00Speaker 1: in the regular you know and escalate. We couldn't get
- 16:03Speaker 1: this exotic sports car to go to the mecalla. So
- 16:06Speaker 1: I had to tell Kim. Uh well, I went up
- 16:09Speaker 1: to tell Kanye, but Kim answered the door, so I
- 16:13Speaker 1: I'm telling Kim that you know, we can't get the vehicle.
- 16:16Speaker 1: And as I'm talking to her, who turns the corner?
- 16:20Speaker 1: Kanye Kanye.
- 16:21Speaker 2: So he didn't like he was.
- 16:24Speaker 1: Talking to Kim. What's mister West? He walks by, slams
- 16:28Speaker 1: the door in my face.
- 16:30Speaker 2: And as a as a Stunton.
- 16:32Speaker 3: Island wanted to as a guy that work in the
- 16:38Speaker 3: fucking as a security guy, I'm just doing this for
- 16:41Speaker 3: a week to you know, just the past time.
- 16:44Speaker 1: I'm not like a so I go.
- 16:46Speaker 2: To job, You're not just doing it up with somebody, right.
- 16:49Speaker 1: But I'm just doing it. I'm not even like a
- 16:51Speaker 1: regular security I was doing it as a favor. They
- 16:54Speaker 1: wanted cops, ex retired cops. So I go downstairs, Uh,
- 16:59Speaker 1: and I got a call from the head guy that
- 17:01Speaker 1: runs the whole security team that I won't be needed anymore.
- 17:05Speaker 1: What do you like? What the hell it like?
- 17:07Speaker 2: Thirty seconds later?
- 17:08Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so I'm like, what are you talking about?
- 17:10Speaker 1: So anyhow, they're like they don't need you anymore. So
- 17:14Speaker 1: the next day the headlines read, you know x Shippendale,
- 17:18Speaker 1: Uh gets fired for hitting on.
- 17:21Speaker 2: And this was this was Kim everywhere and this was
- 17:24Speaker 2: anyway not just here.
- 17:26Speaker 1: I had TMZ in my house every day because then
- 17:29Speaker 1: they refused to pay me. So I started doing all
- 17:31Speaker 1: these interviews Tmzu, the Sun, in the UK, China, China.
- 17:37Speaker 2: They didn't want to and they don't want to pay you.
- 17:39Speaker 1: So every time they didn't pay me, I did another interview.
- 17:42Speaker 1: So then I got a thirty million dollar lawsuit against me,
- 17:46Speaker 1: uh from from Kanye and Kim.
- 17:49Speaker 2: And he didn't sign a paper write something.
- 17:50Speaker 1: He didn't see that right, So so basically they said
- 17:53Speaker 1: I signed an m d A and you know, so
- 17:56Speaker 1: I didn't, and it's not because I didn't want to,
- 17:59Speaker 1: it's because it's they never came gave it to you.
- 18:02Speaker 1: So what happened was they end up calling me, not them.
- 18:06Speaker 1: The security guy asked me to sign the NDA and
- 18:09Speaker 1: back day after after this day, oh yeah, well come
- 18:13Speaker 1: on out of nowhere. Somebody forged my name, right and yeah,
- 18:19Speaker 1: so anyway, it was all bullshit. It was I didn't
- 18:22Speaker 1: get suit for thirty billion, and you still didn't get
- 18:24Speaker 1: paid because I only got twenty eight million in the bank.
- 18:27Speaker 1: So I'm a little you know, I was a little.
- 18:29Speaker 2: But that let me ask you a question that did
- 18:31Speaker 2: kind of help you in your career though.
- 18:32Speaker 1: Well, I mean it didn't hurt. But then the only
- 18:34Speaker 1: negative no.
- 18:35Speaker 2: No press is bad. No, even if it is bad
- 18:38Speaker 2: prece I.
- 18:38Speaker 1: It depends absolutely what you're doing right, And that's why
- 18:41Speaker 1: we did the documentary.
- 18:43Speaker 2: Yes, because everyary you got to watch it really.
- 18:46Speaker 1: Did a great job, really good job.
- 18:47Speaker 2: And I we're hoping to get it on.
- 18:49Speaker 1: Oh there's a lot of places.
- 18:50Speaker 2: I was, yes, somewhere, No.
- 18:52Speaker 1: Everybody wants it does a matter of if I want
- 18:54Speaker 1: to deal with the legal bullshit.
- 18:56Speaker 2: You're gonna star ceas and assistant saw what Kanye wake
- 19:00Speaker 2: the sleeping.
- 19:02Speaker 1: No no, But like I said, the only negative that
- 19:05Speaker 1: came with it. But that's why we did the documentary
- 19:07Speaker 1: is everything I did afterwards. Yeah, we did a film
- 19:10Speaker 1: that's now getting might be nominated for an Oscar. That's
- 19:14Speaker 1: Monica and uh, you know it's getting you know one
- 19:17Speaker 1: Venice and everything everything with that. And asked me about
- 19:21Speaker 1: the Monica tell us about Kanye so it always it was.
- 19:24Speaker 2: Opening an opening monologue for it. I said, I didn't
- 19:27Speaker 2: open up with it.
- 19:30Speaker 1: This happened, that always happened.
- 19:32Speaker 2: But that that's this is it is an interesting story.
- 19:34Speaker 1: It is totally interesting and that's why I did the documentary.
- 19:37Speaker 1: So now I addressed the elphant in the room. Now,
- 19:40Speaker 1: now it was made, and now if you want to
- 19:42Speaker 1: hear about it, see it. You can watch the documentary.
- 19:45Speaker 2: And now you have another show that's out on t
- 19:48Speaker 2: B right now that's got great reviews. Right, so tell
- 19:52Speaker 2: us about the show.
- 19:54Speaker 1: Uh, you know, we did a show, uh Cole Great Hills,
- 19:58Speaker 1: which is a town instantan one, and it's about a
- 20:01Speaker 1: hit man and it's a documentary about his cameracruifiles on
- 20:05Speaker 1: a hitman. And it's a dark comedy. It's it's done
- 20:09Speaker 1: as a mockumentary style. It's like the Office with a
- 20:11Speaker 1: hit man.
- 20:12Speaker 2: It's so it's a it's a it's a it's a
- 20:15Speaker 2: somebody's following you around with cameras camera hitman. And I
- 20:18Speaker 2: love the title and it's really the name of since
- 20:21Speaker 2: Staten Island, so it's really it's really it's Great Kills.
- 20:24Speaker 2: So it's awesome.
- 20:24Speaker 1: It's a double point.
- 20:25Speaker 2: So you're like the so here you're like the Fredo
- 20:27Speaker 2: of the of the hitman world. I would say, right.
- 20:30Speaker 1: Right, and uh, they don't respect me because I'm out
- 20:33Speaker 1: of time, right So but but again, we did really
- 20:36Speaker 1: Extreme number one on twob We're doing season two. Uh,
- 20:39Speaker 1: Eric Roberts is coming to aboard playing himself, which is
- 20:43Speaker 1: Bailey and Kathy Mariarty.
- 20:45Speaker 2: I can't wait to meet her. I'm so excited. She
- 20:47Speaker 2: was in Raging Bull.
- 20:48Speaker 1: She was Raging Bull. Yeah yeah, yeah, so.
- 20:52Speaker 2: Yeah, and we got we still got to get our
- 20:54Speaker 2: other friends on who is to analyzed that on the show.
- 20:59Speaker 1: Yeah so so yeah, so yeah. So it's been an
- 21:01Speaker 1: interesting you know, hopefully I summed up ship in twenty minutes,
- 21:03Speaker 1: but it's been an interesting life that I've led. I
- 21:06Speaker 1: always say it's very Forest Coumpian.
- 21:09Speaker 2: Are you excited for the new season?
- 21:11Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just right now. Like I said, it's like
- 21:13Speaker 1: it's you know, like you see how you guys today
- 21:15Speaker 1: getting already pre production and all this stuff. That's that's
- 21:17Speaker 1: what I'm going through right now. We're going through the
- 21:19Speaker 1: pre production part of it, the locations, locking everything down,
- 21:22Speaker 1: getting everybody's schedules, you know, all that stuff. But yeah,
- 21:25Speaker 1: I mean, uh, it'll be fun once And.
- 21:27Speaker 2: How is it like when you're like I'm always I've
- 21:30Speaker 2: been fascinated about production. That's why we you know, we
- 21:33Speaker 2: met and that's just like my second life career that
- 21:36Speaker 2: I wanted to always pursue. But how did how did
- 21:39Speaker 2: you get into it? And why did What I mean
- 21:41Speaker 2: is this, would you prefer doing production rather than than acting?
- 21:45Speaker 2: I mean, what is your more of your passion.
- 21:48Speaker 1: I'm going to give the liberal answer. I like all three.
- 21:50Speaker 1: I just don't like doing all three at the same
- 21:52Speaker 1: the same fucking product, guy curse in the same project.
- 21:57Speaker 1: You know, if if I'm gonna produce, I like to
- 21:59Speaker 1: produce if I help direct.
- 22:01Speaker 2: But you're not directing this.
- 22:02Speaker 1: I'm not directing, thank god, and we have James Bardino
- 22:06Speaker 1: was a great directory did films. I guess l C. Punk.
- 22:10Speaker 1: It was at one point the highest grossing independent film
- 22:12Speaker 1: of all time. So so yeah, I mean again, it's
- 22:15Speaker 1: a lot of fun as long as I'm not doing everything.
- 22:18Speaker 2: Do you feel the character has any any part of
- 22:21Speaker 2: you in it? I mean, did you feel like it's
- 22:22Speaker 2: based anything around your your you know, your life at all?
- 22:26Speaker 1: Well? The great thing is it's it's it's totally improved.
- 22:30Speaker 1: So you know, we have the structure of the scene
- 22:33Speaker 1: and then we just roll, so you know, when it's
- 22:36Speaker 1: done well.
- 22:37Speaker 2: And everything goes wrong for you because like you're like, oh, yeah,
- 22:41Speaker 2: you break your hand. If you don't, you can't use
- 22:43Speaker 2: you you have to use your left hand too. Hands.
- 22:47Speaker 1: It's a dark comedy. It's doing well. I mean, I
- 22:50Speaker 1: am the baby friends.
- 22:51Speaker 2: With your hits and then yeah.
- 22:54Speaker 1: It's it's ludicrous, but that's what makes it fun because
- 22:56Speaker 1: it's played so straight, which makes it a dog colm.
- 23:00Speaker 1: So yes, so everything is great and like I.
- 23:01Speaker 2: Said, it is funny, it is cute and now and
- 23:05Speaker 2: now I'm going to be your play a version of
- 23:08Speaker 2: myself and which will be fun.
- 23:10Speaker 1: Yes, and you'll get to improve yet again. We'll be
- 23:12Speaker 1: like doing this exactly now.
- 23:14Speaker 2: Well you know, it's just like we'll just be like
- 23:15Speaker 2: us in new office. When I see you anyway, exactly.
- 23:18Speaker 2: You come in stee my page.
- 23:20Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell her I get zero work. Don I
- 23:22Speaker 1: don't listen he shaves my ass.
- 23:24Speaker 2: I do. That's what I really wanted him to come
- 23:27Speaker 2: in for so I could shave his ass. Actually, you're
- 23:31Speaker 2: coming in tomorrow, She bends over. I want to see
- 23:34Speaker 2: your ass.
- 23:35Speaker 1: I might even get that. Uh, I've heard about this somebody.
- 23:38Speaker 1: You want to tell me about it? An asshole, bleach.
- 23:41Speaker 2: You want to you want to antal bleaching?
- 23:42Speaker 1: What is it? What does that even?
- 23:44Speaker 2: Well, we don't do it, but it just it it
- 23:48Speaker 2: blights up your ass.
- 23:49Speaker 1: Basically you're you're you don't do antal bleaching.
- 23:53Speaker 2: We don't do any bleaching. I don't think many people
- 23:55Speaker 2: like like want to like I know it, like it
- 23:58Speaker 2: wouldn't be like something.
- 23:59Speaker 1: Like I know again, who does.
- 24:00Speaker 2: You know what?
- 24:00Speaker 1: Guy does actually had anal bleaching and.
- 24:02Speaker 2: Did he like it? How do you feel the process?
- 24:05Speaker 1: I didn't look. I took his word on.
- 24:08Speaker 2: It wasn't one of your friends.
- 24:10Speaker 1: I was actually somebody we know mutually. But with that
- 24:13Speaker 1: being said, yeah, you know, like I said, here's here,
- 24:19Speaker 1: you know, bleaching it. But uh but with that being said, yeah,
- 24:24Speaker 1: I mean listen, you know I'm a patient. She does
- 24:27Speaker 1: a little U touch ups here and there for me,
- 24:29Speaker 1: so yes, well yeah, but I guess it's natural. Thank
- 24:33Speaker 1: you know, we have to.
- 24:34Speaker 2: You have to look good on camera. You can't look
- 24:36Speaker 2: completely frozen.
- 24:37Speaker 1: Because I don't like people.
- 24:39Speaker 2: And it's so funny when I see people on camera,
- 24:41Speaker 2: I'm like looking at them, Oh my god, do they
- 24:43Speaker 2: need BOTOK? So bad?
- 24:45Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know what, I'd rather see people like
- 24:46Speaker 1: that than when they like.
- 24:48Speaker 2: The joker or like they look they look kind of
- 24:51Speaker 2: look cat like, they kind of like when they speak killed. Yea,
- 24:55Speaker 2: my patients ever looked like that. They all look good.
- 24:57Speaker 1: No, yeah, no, no, no absolutely, But and again the
- 25:00Speaker 1: other thing, I just want to talk real quick, Like
- 25:02Speaker 1: I said, we have a film called Monica Patricia Clarkson,
- 25:06Speaker 1: who's unbelievable and Trace Glazette, who's the first transgender lead
- 25:13Speaker 1: in the film, which I knew, yeah, which I knew
- 25:17Speaker 1: was going to do well. And the storyline is great
- 25:20Speaker 1: and it's it's like a surprise ending and once we
- 25:24Speaker 1: won Venice, uh you know it got just got released
- 25:27Speaker 1: in all the theaters by a MC and h yeah,
- 25:33Speaker 1: I heard it's getting some Oscar We're getting we're hearing
- 25:35Speaker 1: Oscar bus. What what that?
- 25:37Speaker 2: What would that do to your career?
- 25:39Speaker 1: It would get me a little bullshit trophy?
- 25:41Speaker 2: No, but I mean.
- 25:44Speaker 1: No, no, it would be cool because it was it
- 25:46Speaker 1: just adds prestige.
- 25:47Speaker 2: Well at least you won't slap anybody on stage, or
- 25:49Speaker 2: you might maybe you'll strip on stage when you get
- 25:51Speaker 2: the award.
- 25:53Speaker 1: Just but again, it would just be cool. Now I'm
- 25:56Speaker 1: a producer of a an Oscar winning film, which would
- 25:59Speaker 1: be the worst thing. I mean, it only helps. So yeah.
- 26:02Speaker 1: So I mean, like I said, everything's going well, and
- 26:05Speaker 1: now I'm on Cat's Importing.
- 26:06Speaker 2: I know my whole year is made it you got
- 26:09Speaker 2: on my show, my first show, and when I'm when
- 26:12Speaker 2: I'm big and famous like you. Thank you. I remember
- 26:15Speaker 2: the little people. I remember your ass, I could say,
- 26:18Speaker 2: especially when I believe stripped.
- 26:20Speaker 1: I was a cop, I worked with Leo and I
- 26:23Speaker 1: was on Cats Imported, There you Go, and fort when
- 26:25Speaker 1: Kanye West and got two for thirty million and.
- 26:27Speaker 2: Was on That's it, And it always goes back to
- 26:29Speaker 2: Kats and Pudding.
- 26:30Speaker 1: It always Imported.
- 26:31Speaker 2: Thank you Steve so much for coming and being on
- 26:34Speaker 2: my first show. I'm so excited and I can't wait
- 26:36Speaker 2: to work with you on our next project.
- 26:39Speaker 1: My honor. I want to wish you luck. Thank you,
- 26:41Speaker 1: break Legs, thank you. This is any indication of how
- 26:43Speaker 1: you're going to be. I have no doubt to be success.
- 26:46Speaker 2: I love you. Thank you everybody for tuning in. This
- 26:48Speaker 2: is Jennifer DeLange with Kats and Pudding.