Latest / INSIGHT TODAY / Witkoff reveals new details on talks with Iranian delegation
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- 0:00Speaker 1: And good morning as we approach a pivotal moment on
- 0:02Speaker 1: foreign policy. The president, President Trump, getting ready to welcome
- 0:06Speaker 1: the leader of America's biggest rival as he threatens an
- 0:10Speaker 1: adversary with total annihilation. It's been quite the week and
- 0:15Speaker 1: it's only Wednesday. So good morning, everybody. Dana is out
- 0:17Speaker 1: this week. I'm Bill Hemmer live back here in New
- 0:19Speaker 1: York City with my colleague who works 24-7. Hello to you, Jackie.
- 0:24Speaker 1: Welcome back.
- 0:25Speaker 2: Great to be here, Bill.
- 0:26Speaker 3: Good to be with you and everybody else. I'm Jackie Heinrich.
- 0:28Speaker 2: This is America's Newsroom. Later today, President Trump will head
- 0:31Speaker 2: to Joint Base Andrews for the arrival of Chinese President
- 0:34Speaker 2: Xi Jinping. It is the start of a three-day summit.
- 0:37Speaker 2: The two are expected to talk trade and the AI
- 0:39Speaker 2: arms race. Also looming large is China's reliance on Iranian oil.
- 0:43Speaker 1: So, meanwhile, you've got the president teasing a major decision
- 0:47Speaker 1: on America's seven-month war in Iran. Here is what he
- 0:50Speaker 1: told the U.N. General Assembly, where the Iranian president speaks,
- 0:54Speaker 1: by the way, in a matter of moments. First, from yesterday. Watch.
- 0:59Speaker 4: I have a big decision to make. Will a deal
- 1:03Speaker 4: be made with Iran that lets them rebuild and create
- 1:08Speaker 4: a far greater country than it ever was before? maybe
- 1:13Speaker 4: one of the greatest in the Middle East or even
- 1:15Speaker 4: the world? Or do I annihilate the Islamic Republic and
- 1:21Speaker 4: do it quickly, never giving them a chance to kill
- 1:24Speaker 4: and destroy people and countries again?
- 1:29Speaker 2: Trey Yankst is live from Tel Aviv with the latest.
- 1:32Speaker 3: Trey.
- 1:34Speaker 1: Yeah, Jackie, good morning.
- 1:35Speaker 5: More than six months into the conflict with Iran, President
- 1:38Speaker 5: Trump making a declaration at the U.N. on Tuesday. He said,
- 1:42Speaker 5: I have a big decision to make, that decision whether
- 1:45Speaker 5: or not to resume strikes against the Iranian regime or
- 1:48Speaker 5: cut a deal. And we do know the president indicated
- 1:50Speaker 5: he believes a deal could be possible just after the
- 1:53Speaker 5: midterm elections as he discussed the broader threat from Iran.
- 1:57Speaker 4: There is no better example of a danger that was
- 1:59Speaker 4: allowed to gather strength at the world's peril. than the
- 2:03Speaker 4: number one sponsor of terror, the Islamic Republic of Iran.
- 2:11Speaker 4: For 51 years, the fanatical Iranian regime has ruled by
- 2:16Speaker 4: bloodshed and mass murder, spreading death and carnage and chaos
- 2:21Speaker 4: across the entire Middle East and beyond. They were the
- 2:25Speaker 4: bully of the Middle East, but they are the bully
- 2:27Speaker 4: no more.
- 2:29Speaker 5: On the sidelines of the U.N., President Trump met with
- 2:32Speaker 5: Gulf leaders to discuss the war and the next steps forward.
- 2:34Speaker 5: His top negotiators, Jared Kushner and Steve Witkoff, also meeting
- 2:38Speaker 5: indirectly with the Iranian delegation for more than three hours.
- 2:41Speaker 5: Witkoff said in a statement, quote, They successfully completed a
- 2:53Speaker 5: round of discussions that we hope will prove constructive and promising.
- 2:56Speaker 5: The mediators will continue their work. Iran's foreign ministry spokesperson
- 3:00Speaker 5: said this about the engagement.
- 3:05Speaker 6: This was not anything new. Earlier this week, the Islamic
- 3:08Speaker 6: Republic of Iran had already stated its positions and views
- 3:10Speaker 6: on various issues, including the Strait.
- 3:12Speaker 1: Of Hormuz, regional security, and Iran's conditions for diplomacy.
- 3:18Speaker 5: At this point, it doesn't appear the ball has moved
- 3:20Speaker 5: forward in terms of progress with these negotiations, and reports
- 3:23Speaker 5: this morning indicate that another vessel was struck in the
- 3:26Speaker 5: Strait of Hormuz.
- 3:28Speaker 3: Jackie?
- 3:28Speaker 1: All right.
- 3:29Speaker 3: Trey, thank you.
- 3:30Speaker 1: So Dan Hoffman here to analyze, and Dan, good morning
- 3:32Speaker 1: and welcome back to our program. We heard from a
- 3:35Speaker 1: few clips there from the president yesterday. This perhaps is
- 3:38Speaker 1: the clip that I thought makes the argument the most clear.
- 3:44Speaker 1: He's talking about American elections and a war overseas that
- 3:47Speaker 1: he's not going to give up on.
- 3:48Speaker 3: Watch here.
- 3:50Speaker 4: Do I drive them into hell with no chance of
- 3:52Speaker 4: survival and no hope of future greatness or generations? But
- 3:58Speaker 4: I believe we'll make a deal right after the election
- 4:02Speaker 4: because it doesn't make sense for them not to. They're
- 4:06Speaker 4: waiting to see how I do in the midterm election.
- 4:09Speaker 4: What they don't realize is that I'm not running. I did...
- 4:13Speaker 4: that already and won in a landslide. We won in
- 4:17Speaker 4: a giant landslide. And I'll be here for two and.
- 4:20Speaker 3: A half years.
- 4:21Speaker 1: That's the line, Dan. I'll be here for two and
- 4:23Speaker 1: a half years. That could be domestic consumption for some
- 4:26Speaker 1: of these Republican candidates that know that gas prices and
- 4:29Speaker 1: diesel prices are hurting their chances at reelection. That's intended
- 4:34Speaker 1: for international consumption for the current leaders in Iran as
- 4:37Speaker 1: to what they can expect over the next two and.
- 4:39Speaker 3: A half years.
- 4:41Speaker 1: You analyze that how, Dan, from your perspective?
- 4:45Speaker 6: The president and his team is very well aware that
- 4:48Speaker 6: Iran is trying to build leverage however they can. That
- 4:53Speaker 6: involves using their proxy terrorists, like the Houthis, who have
- 4:56Speaker 6: launched attacks on Saudi Arabia, militants in Iraq who have
- 4:59Speaker 6: launched attacks on Saudi energy infrastructure, efforts by the Houthis
- 5:04Speaker 6: to control the Red Sea and Saudi exports of oil
- 5:07Speaker 6: and targeting the Saudi East-West oil pipeline. Iran, of course,
- 5:12Speaker 6: has limited the flow of oil and gas through the
- 5:15Speaker 6: Strait of Hormuz. That's all building out leverage for Iran.
- 5:18Speaker 6: What Iran wants is to ensure that there is no
- 5:23Speaker 6: future agreement that's any better than the JCPOA. They do
- 5:26Speaker 6: not want any restrictions on their nuclear program or their
- 5:30Speaker 6: ballistic missile arsenal, as well as their support to proxy terrorists.
- 5:34Speaker 6: All the things that weren't addressed sufficiently in the JCPOA
- 5:38Speaker 6: Iran also wants to reduce or eliminate altogether U.S. influence
- 5:42Speaker 6: in the Middle East. So it may sound counterintuitive, but
- 5:45Speaker 6: all of these threats from the president, past threats to
- 5:47Speaker 6: destroy Iranian civilization or the current one, the threat to
- 5:51Speaker 6: annihilate Iran, Iran's leadership, I think, would look at that
- 5:54Speaker 6: and say, that's just fine. We're still here and we're
- 5:57Speaker 6: still fighting you. And that's how we define our regime strength.
- 6:02Speaker 2: So, Dan, a little bit unusual to have the president
- 6:05Speaker 2: of a country that We're engaged in with a hot
- 6:08Speaker 2: war here in town for the U.N. But apparently, Jack
- 6:12Speaker 2: Keane says that they feel pretty good about how things
- 6:15Speaker 2: are going on the battlefield.
- 6:16Speaker 3: Listen to this. The reality is where that regime is,
- 6:20Speaker 3: they are convinced that they are winning here, that they've
- 6:24Speaker 3: got the Americans on their heels a bit. influenced by
- 6:28Speaker 3: oil and gas prices are driving their decision-making. The president
- 6:32Speaker 3: made a big deal out of the elections in making
- 6:34Speaker 3: a case that he's not being influenced by it. They
- 6:36Speaker 3: believe he is. And as a result of that, their
- 6:40Speaker 3: mindset is they can outlast us.
- 6:43Speaker 2: Why do you think what the general is saying here
- 6:45Speaker 2: is true? You know, what is it that makes Iran
- 6:48Speaker 2: believe that they are winning when their military, their nuclear
- 6:50Speaker 2: program has been set back potentially decades?
- 6:55Speaker 6: So Iran is losing. They've lost every kinetic engagement with
- 6:59Speaker 6: the United States. However, I think Iran has potentially a
- 7:04Speaker 6: higher threshold for the pain that they are willing to
- 7:07Speaker 6: inflict on their own citizens. It's a dictatorship, and their
- 7:11Speaker 6: citizens don't get a vote in how the Iranian security
- 7:15Speaker 6: forces and the supreme leader run the country. Here in
- 7:18Speaker 6: the United States, we enjoy great freedom, freedom of the
- 7:22Speaker 6: press and a Congress that speaks for the people. And
- 7:25Speaker 6: so when gas prices go up and diesel prices go up,
- 7:28Speaker 6: inflation goes up, Americans question not whether Iran should have
- 7:33Speaker 6: a nuclear program. We all agree they shouldn't. The question
- 7:36Speaker 6: is how we get there. I think for the president,
- 7:39Speaker 6: it's important to continue to emphasize that we're in this
- 7:42Speaker 6: conflict with Iran, and we can't just precipitously withdraw and
- 7:48Speaker 6: allow Iran to exercise dominance over the region and potentially
- 7:52Speaker 6: be even stronger than before. And I think the president
- 7:54Speaker 6: will be messaging that. I would expect increasingly so as
- 7:58Speaker 6: the midterms approach.
- 7:59Speaker 1: Okay. So, Iran will certainly come up in these Chinese talks.
- 8:03Speaker 3: How, we don't know.
- 8:04Speaker 1: And so, too, artificial intelligence, now named superintelligence, as of
- 8:08Speaker 1: yesterday from the president's speech. Here's Marco Rubio and expectations
- 8:12Speaker 1: for that over the next day and a half.
- 8:15Speaker 7: Like the equivalent of a hotline that we had during
- 8:17Speaker 7: the Cold War, where if there is an AI incident
- 8:19Speaker 7: that's dangerous and could impact economies or societies and even
- 8:23Speaker 7: lead to a conflict between nation states, we would have
- 8:25Speaker 7: the ability to immediately hotline the Chinese and warn them
- 8:28Speaker 7: about it or vice versa. It's not a bad idea.
- 8:31Speaker 7: It's one we'll explore with the Chinese, among others.
- 8:33Speaker 1: You could argue that not much came out of that
- 8:35Speaker 1: summit in Beijing in May. The White House and others
- 8:38Speaker 1: keep saying this is all about a relationship.
- 8:40Speaker 3: What do you expect?
- 8:42Speaker 1: To come out of this next day and a half
- 8:44Speaker 1: in Washington, if anything, Dan?
- 8:47Speaker 6: When I worked at CIA, I used to feel like
- 8:49Speaker 6: summits are a little like water polo. There's some pageantry
- 8:52Speaker 6: and ballet above the surface. And below the surface, there's
- 8:55Speaker 6: a lot of kicking the other team in the private parts.
- 8:59Speaker 6: So I think we're going to see a lot of
- 9:01Speaker 6: backroom discussion here. There's not a lot of trust between
- 9:04Speaker 6: the United States and China. China's been ripping us off,
- 9:07Speaker 6: stealing our intellectual property. conducting massive espionage, militarizing the South
- 9:13Speaker 6: China Sea and threatening Taiwan. On AI, I would hope
- 9:16Speaker 6: that perhaps we can agree not just on a hotline,
- 9:19Speaker 6: perhaps on testing common standards. That's the big one we're
- 9:22Speaker 6: going to have to get right. It reminds me of
- 9:23Speaker 6: the arms control negotiations we used to have. with the
- 9:27Speaker 6: evil empire Soviet Union.
- 9:28Speaker 3: Okay, I like the way you explained that. L.A. Well done.
- 9:32Speaker 3: I put on your swimsuit.
- 9:34Speaker 1: And I guess something else, too, based on that explanation. Dan, thanks.
- 9:38Speaker 1: We're calling you tomorrow, too. Dan Hoffman.
- 9:40Speaker 6: Thanks.
- 9:40Speaker 3: All right, thanks.
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