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This Isn’t Old Man Music: Kenny G: Part 2 · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in. This isn't Old Man Music with
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  Speaker 1: Scott Patterson. Everything You've ever wanted to know about the
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  Speaker 1: music of Gilmore Girls, Everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all
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  Speaker 1: in Podcast one eleven Productions. iHeartRadio Media, iHeart podcast. We
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  Speaker 1: are going to bring you part two of our Kenny
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  Speaker 1: g Conversation. Kenny, we have to talk about your collaborations
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  Speaker 1: with like Sinatra, Seline, Dion, Andrew Bocelli and many more.
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  Speaker 1: What was it like? It's Sinatra? Tell me just please.
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  Speaker 1: I grew up listening to Sinatra and my obviously my
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  Speaker 1: parents were obsessed. There was a radio station sid Mark God,
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  Speaker 1: what was the call sign for sidmar rks Sounds of
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  Speaker 1: Sinatra in the Philadelphia in Philadelphia, and every night my
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  Speaker 1: mom would cook to that. And I love Sinatra. I
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  Speaker 1: love everything about Sinatra. Tell me about that collaboration. How
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  Speaker 1: did you meet him? What's going on with that?
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  Speaker 2: I did meet him, but it wasn't while we were
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  Speaker 2: doing this thing. It's like, this was the modern time
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  Speaker 2: when producers would just send it was tape, but a
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  Speaker 2: big tape, you know, a big twenty four track tape,
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  Speaker 2: right he would just Phil Ramone was the producer Okay, hey,
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  Speaker 2: I want you to play with Frank Snatra songs and
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  Speaker 2: we're doing a duets album Frank snatchas Barbara Streisan. It's
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  Speaker 2: bono blah blah blah. And of course you know one instrumentalist,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to have you be the great. So send
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  Speaker 2: me to music. So he sends it to me, and
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  Speaker 2: I do it and just really in the vacuum of
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  Speaker 2: my own studio, but all by myself, and I did
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  Speaker 2: what I thought was the right notes, and I sent
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  Speaker 2: it in and they liked it, and and I met
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  Speaker 2: Frank Sinatrada at a Hollywood party, you know, at some
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  Speaker 2: point with him the next year, and I said, hey,
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  Speaker 2: it was great to be on your record and nice
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  Speaker 2: to meet you. And you know that was about it. Unfortunately, right, sorry,
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  Speaker 2: there was no romance in that one. Unfortunately.
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  Speaker 1: That's good. Kay, it's a good look. Look you got
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  Speaker 1: to be on his record, man, I know you met
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  Speaker 1: the dude. That's that's pretty awesome.
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  Speaker 2: I did, and they and to watch Saturday Night Live
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  Speaker 2: do a spoof on that duet's record and have a
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  Speaker 2: guy play me and play like these screechy notes, just
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  Speaker 2: like it, guys, get this guy out.
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  Speaker 1: Did you did you ever Now, speaking of collaborations, did
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  Speaker 1: you ever turn one down that you wish you wouldn't have?
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  Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, so yeah, Luther vandros And and Mariah Endless
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  Speaker 2: Love they did a you know that that the Lionel
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  Speaker 2: Richie song. And Okay, so Tommy Mottola, if Sony calls
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  Speaker 2: and he wants me to do a solo on the record,
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  Speaker 2: I my best friend at the time, was producing it
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  Speaker 2: well with my friend Walter. Unfortunately we're not friends anymore.
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  Speaker 2: And it's not because of this, but Walter said to me,
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  Speaker 2: he goes, bro, I'm producing this record. I just do
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  Speaker 2: not hear a Sack solo here. I know they want
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  Speaker 2: you to because it's marketing, and you got to tell
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  Speaker 2: them no. And because of this is how I am.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a friend, like if I promise something, I don't care.
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  Speaker 2: So he's my bro, you know. I said, Okay, you
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  Speaker 2: got it. So I told him I wouldn't play the solo,
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  Speaker 2: but god damn it, I wish I would have done it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: So there you go. That one got away from me,
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  Speaker 2: and for the right reasons. But at the end of
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  Speaker 2: the day, it would have been better. I fact, that
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  Speaker 2: would have been great, Mariah and Luther come on.
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  Speaker 1: Well you got to be on this podcast, so that
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  Speaker 1: kind of makes up for it. Anyway, I forgot Luther Man,
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  Speaker 1: you have a chance to be on the anyway. All right,
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  Speaker 1: So this is a factoid that blew my mind when
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  Speaker 1: I read it. Nineteen ninety seven, give us book a
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  Speaker 1: world record. Oh yeah, yeah, you held a note on
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  Speaker 1: the saxophone for forty five minutes and forty seconds, forty
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  Speaker 1: seven seconds using circular breathing, Kenny, What motivated you to
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  Speaker 1: attempt that? And what did did you practice for it?
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  Speaker 2: Well? Okay, so this technique is not you know, it's
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  Speaker 2: not just me, as any instrumentalist can do it. It's
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  Speaker 2: a way of using your cheeks. You blow them air
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  Speaker 2: out of your cheeks, you breathe in your nose at
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  Speaker 2: the same time, like making your head into a bagpipe. Basically.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So I learned how to do it, and I got
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  Speaker 2: really good at it, and I was on the Regis
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  Speaker 2: Philburn Morning show whatever the show that's what's that show
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  Speaker 2: called Regis and Kathy Lee whatever was that? And he somehow, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I heard you can do this show us. So I
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  Speaker 2: do it, and then I'm back in the green room,
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  Speaker 2: and on the same show, the Guinness people were there
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  Speaker 2: to talk about whatever world records had been set in
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  Speaker 2: the last six months or whatever. And the guy goes,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you should set a world record for the
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  Speaker 2: longest note. I said, what's the world record? He goes,
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  Speaker 2: there isn't one. I said, well, then I think I'm
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  Speaker 2: shot at it. I thought, well, maybe I can do
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  Speaker 2: ten minutes. So we went and tried it, and after
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  Speaker 2: each like four or five minutes and another tan, I go, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I'll keep going. And I just kept going and I
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  Speaker 2: had no idea I could do it that long and Moe, well,
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  Speaker 2: my lips were so tired at the end, fasted some ice.
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  Speaker 2: After that was over a lot of work.
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  Speaker 1: All right, you're kind of a guy in this pop
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  Speaker 1: culture universe, right, Katie Perry video Spongebomb. I mean, how
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  Speaker 1: do you feel about, you know, balancing like serious instrumental
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  Speaker 1: music to more pop culture projects. What do you prefer?
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  Speaker 2: Love it? No? No, no, I mean I prefer my music.
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  Speaker 2: I prefer just doing my thing all alone. That's what
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  Speaker 2: I prefer. But if the Weekend wants me to play
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  Speaker 2: a solo or I just did something that's going to
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  Speaker 2: come out this Christmas for the Jonas Brothers. I just
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  Speaker 2: solo on their song, and I'm in the movie too,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, which is super cool. So that kind
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  Speaker 2: of stuff is like, it's like a puzzle, and my
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  Speaker 2: brain loves puzzles. So how am I going to put
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  Speaker 2: my notes in this song and make it sound like it?
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  Speaker 3: Like?
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  Speaker 2: It works? So I love it. I really love doing it. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: I have to love the song. It has to be
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  Speaker 2: in the right frame. Like I just did something with
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  Speaker 2: Doja Cab on the VMAs and it was like kind
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  Speaker 2: of figure out this whole thing, what's going to sound
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  Speaker 2: good with and that was really fun. So when that
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  Speaker 2: works out, I really like it when the young people
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  Speaker 2: see they can't you know, A and I can't replace
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  Speaker 2: a guy like me cannot do it right because there's
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  Speaker 2: the nuances of the way that those notes go that
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  Speaker 2: you just can't do with a synthesizer. And that's what
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  Speaker 2: happens is these these pop guys they do a little
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  Speaker 2: sax part and they go, hmmm, let's get a real
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  Speaker 2: sax player, who can we call? And then luckily my
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  Speaker 2: name seems to be at the top of the list,
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  Speaker 2: so I get the call and I get to meet
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  Speaker 2: these guys and do videos. Like the weekend, I did
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  Speaker 2: this cool video with him and we were in this box,
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  Speaker 2: like we ended up in this little box that I'm
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  Speaker 2: playing and between the takes, he goes, you know what,
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  Speaker 2: you're old enough to be my father. And I'm not
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  Speaker 2: going to tell you what I said back to it,
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  Speaker 2: but you know, I said, you know, you're actually right.
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  Speaker 2: Did you think that was gonna make me feel good?
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, and like what's the point of that?
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  Speaker 2: He's absolute really really cool? He kind of you said.
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  Speaker 2: It kind of just ridden me a little bit, but
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  Speaker 2: it's it's like, those are moments that are really fun.
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  Speaker 1: To do, right, Do you have any Okay, So this
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  Speaker 1: is what's your advice for young instrumentalists today breaking into
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  Speaker 1: the business? Is there is there a room for it?
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  Speaker 1: What would you tell them?
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  Speaker 2: Okay? This is the hard part with the young young
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  Speaker 2: musicians these days? Is there The problem is what we're
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  Speaker 2: doing right now? So we're doing this podcast, Like I'm
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  Speaker 2: in Paris, France.
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  Speaker 1: Where are you, by the way, I'm in southern California.
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  Speaker 1: I'm outside of Los Angeles. I'm near Malibu.
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  Speaker 2: You're near Malibu? Correct?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and so look, this is unbelievable. I mean thirty
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  Speaker 2: years ago you'd say, huh, we're at the Dick Tracy
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  Speaker 2: phone where you were talking to each other. So this
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  Speaker 2: is great for this, but it's also has a downside.
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  Speaker 2: The downside has been all the musicians in the world
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  Speaker 2: are hearing the same things. They're privy to these things.
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  Speaker 2: Like when I was learning to play the sacks, if
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to hear something, I had to figure out
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  Speaker 2: who I wanted to listen to, go to a record store,
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  Speaker 2: try to find the record, go home and play it.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't have anything then have a tape recorder, so
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  Speaker 2: I had to listen to it, try to figure out
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  Speaker 2: the notes he was playing that I liked, and then
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  Speaker 2: work on it and then try to figure out what
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to do with all that. So I ended
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  Speaker 2: up developing a sound of my own. The young guys,
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  Speaker 2: they are unbelievable technicians. Oh they play some un stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I can't play some of the stuff they can play,
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  Speaker 2: but they're all playing it. So is there room? Means, like,
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  Speaker 2: what are you going to do that's going to stand out?
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  Speaker 2: Other than you can play fast and you can play
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  Speaker 2: these licks that everybodybody else has been playing. You know,
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  Speaker 2: it's like it's good, it's impressive, But where's.
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  Speaker 1: The where's the soul, Where's where's the pain? Where is it?
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  Speaker 1: What's going on? I know? I go back and I
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  Speaker 1: listened to you know, I love to cook, you know,
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  Speaker 1: for my family, so I go when I'm cooking, I
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  Speaker 1: put on all the old you know. I'll listen to
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  Speaker 1: Eric Clapton early Clapton cream, I'll listen to the Who
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  Speaker 1: early you know, yeah, and it's just and then i'm
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm in the gym and they have a
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  Speaker 1: track on and it's a they play a track from
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  Speaker 1: Who's Next and they put a drum machine on it.
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  Speaker 1: And I just went up to the front desk and
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  Speaker 1: I said, what is going on? Why would why would
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  Speaker 1: anybody play something or remove Keith Moon from a track
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  Speaker 1: and put this in to a whostle? I said, do
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  Speaker 1: you know what you're doing to me right.
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  Speaker 4: You're killing me right now?
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  Speaker 1: Or you know, go back and listen to old like
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  Speaker 1: James Gangs has some really great live recordings, some great
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  Speaker 1: blue stuff. It's just you know, these are yeah, you're right.
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  Speaker 1: These are very gifted musicians who play with technical proficiency,
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  Speaker 1: but it isn't about that. They have the structure. They
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  Speaker 1: have the chops, but they don't let it take over,
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  Speaker 1: and they play with feeling. They play just the right
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  Speaker 1: note at the right time, in the right way, and
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  Speaker 1: you're right. It's lost.
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  Speaker 2: Like Miles Davis, you know he was when he went
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  Speaker 2: on tour. We were we were his opening acts for
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  Speaker 2: like six months.
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  Speaker 1: I'm toured with Miles Davis, not the front door.
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  Speaker 2: And you would think, like, why would Miles want somebody
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  Speaker 2: like me around? But hey, you know what, because I
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  Speaker 2: was selling tickets. I was selling and he was the headliner,
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  Speaker 2: so he was doing great. He came by my dressing
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  Speaker 2: room and he said, he gives me that song you play.
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  Speaker 2: The ladies really like it. Job like that. I went,
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  Speaker 2: thank you, Miles, thank you very much. And it's like, okay, cool.
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  Speaker 2: It's like I playing a sack differently than other people
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  Speaker 2: have played it. You're doing your trumpet different you do.
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  Speaker 2: You have your own sound, like my own sound, and
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  Speaker 2: that you have to. You know, these young players, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if they're gonna I don't know if they
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  Speaker 2: know how to. They don't even know how to get
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  Speaker 2: their own sound because they're so busy trying to do
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  Speaker 2: what they heard, Like, oh, I got to do what
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  Speaker 2: that guy did because otherwise he's going to be better
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  Speaker 2: than me. It's like I never even compared myself to anybody.
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  Speaker 2: I was just trying to play.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 2: So that's that's the advice to the young musicians. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: that's not just sax players, but I think is anybody
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  Speaker 2: you know?
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  Speaker 1: I actually I want to answer my own question. I
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  Speaker 1: have advice for young musicians.
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  Speaker 2: Great.
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  Speaker 1: Go and find a copy or listen to a recording
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  Speaker 1: from a pianist named Keith Jarrett and you know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking about. Yes, nineteen seventy five live com Germany
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  Speaker 1: called The Comb Concert. It's a white album with him
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  Speaker 1: on the cover. It is the most extraordinary hour plus
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  Speaker 1: of piano, just solo piano music. And this is a
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  Speaker 1: guy who was classically trained and was a prodigy and
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  Speaker 1: walked away from it to study jazz and to do
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  Speaker 1: his own thing. And it is the most powerful, the
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  Speaker 1: most beautiful stuff you will ever hear on a solo.
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  Speaker 1: And he's like Kenny G Level on the piano, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like creating these beautiful melodies and
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  Speaker 1: riffing on all of it. I mean, it's just break
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  Speaker 1: your heart to listen to it. Just beautiful. Once did
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  Speaker 1: you really wear.
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  Speaker 2: The solo shows in San Francisco? And he did that
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  Speaker 2: thing he did he punched over the piano. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 2: after the show it went backstage, not that he cared
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  Speaker 2: by the way that backstage, but because of me, I
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  Speaker 2: could at least get past the guards to get there
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  Speaker 2: and said, you know, it's just something like, Wow, that
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  Speaker 2: was really great, I said, And I asked him, I said,
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  Speaker 2: so what we heard is that rehearsed he goes Absolutely
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  Speaker 2: not he goes. I never I never practiced those things.
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  Speaker 2: That just it's got it's got to be all improvisation.
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  Speaker 2: I said, well, that's very impressive, very impressive. I was.
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  Speaker 2: I was impressed. I never forgot that moment either. So
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  Speaker 2: when you mentioned Keith, Jerry's like, I know what you're
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  Speaker 2: talking about.
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  Speaker 1: Oh man, I mean, I don't know how many times
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  Speaker 1: I've listened to that album, and I just you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's been a couple of decades, and then I, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, six months ago, I started listening to him
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  Speaker 1: again and it just shattered me. The guy. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there's just nothing more powerful than you know, an artist
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  Speaker 1: in full command of their instrument and creating in the moment.
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  Speaker 1: It's just I mean, if they're if they're a genius, right,
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  Speaker 1: if they're if they're a musical genius.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like those like those. When I listened, I
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  Speaker 2: listened to like the old jazz guys like that, and
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  Speaker 2: stan Getz was is my one of my sacks. Man.
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  Speaker 2: I can just listen to him all day. I do
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  Speaker 2: listen to him all day. You just do it. You
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  Speaker 2: always put on my kids, just go not again, I go.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what.
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  Speaker 1: I try to play because we play music at dinner
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  Speaker 1: every night, and I lay, I lay it a little
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  Speaker 1: uh because I love Pete Jolly, I love that that
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  Speaker 1: that sound. I love Sweet September and all those those
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  Speaker 1: great records from the what was it, late fifties, early
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  Speaker 1: sixties maybe mid sixties, and I so melodic and such
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  Speaker 1: songs and such great piano player.
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  Speaker 2: Are you have a player or a guitar player? What
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  Speaker 2: do you? What do you well?
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  Speaker 1: I played piano a little bit growing up, but it's
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  Speaker 1: more guitar. Yeah, yeah, I composed on guitar.
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  Speaker 3: Composed.
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  Speaker 1: Listen to me, I composed yeah, No, I don't compose.
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  Speaker 1: I write. I try to write songs.
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  Speaker 2: Have you recorded songs? Have you made recordings?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I did an EP in two thousand
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  Speaker 1: and seventeen. I took a serious shot at doing something
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  Speaker 1: and I released a single and it actually and I
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  Speaker 1: was on with Jimmy Fallon for Gilmore Girls reboot and
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  Speaker 1: then he was nice enough to hold up the cover
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  Speaker 1: of the single and I said, yeah, here's the single,
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  Speaker 1: and on the iTunes Indie Rock Top one hundred, I
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  Speaker 1: was number one for a couple about four weeks.
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  Speaker 2: That's fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was very excited about I mean, nothing ever
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  Speaker 1: came of it, but you know, I thought, wow, that's
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  Speaker 1: the power of you know, being on a top talk show,
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  Speaker 1: right and having.
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  Speaker 2: A I've never been on Foulon. They've never had me on.
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  Speaker 2: You got one on me there, But I don't think so.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think so.
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  Speaker 2: I've wanted to be on the show. They're just going
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  Speaker 2: it's okay, really yeah, no, no, they're no interest in me.
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  Speaker 1: But he's a music guy. He loves music. Mans man,
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  Speaker 1: you should be on there. That he's he's That was
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  Speaker 1: a good time. That was a good time. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so but you know, I I write, and I have
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  Speaker 1: these dreams and all that, but it's like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and I did a little tour in a coffeehouse tour
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  Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen summer, but I just you know, I
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  Speaker 1: had a young son, and I just I just didn't
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  Speaker 1: want to be on the road, you know, I just
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  Speaker 1: I it's like, this isn't this is something I should
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  Speaker 1: have done a long long time ago. This is not
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  Speaker 1: the time to be doing this. So I just I
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  Speaker 1: just pulled the plug on it. But I love writing.
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  Speaker 1: And I actually went down to Nashville. I got invited, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Warner Chappel invite me down and they put me in
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  Speaker 1: a room with some very very heavy hitters, you know,
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  Speaker 1: some big time songwriters. And man was I out of
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  Speaker 1: my depth. But I played them some songs and yeah,
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  Speaker 1: oh no, no, no, these are these are very technically proficient,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: very trained, you know writers, right, and and they were
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: just they were lovely to be with. And they took
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: a couple of my songs and did some wonderful things
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: with them.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: That's cool.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a it was a great experience. It
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: was a great experience.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: You know. Timing is as you mentioned, timing It's really
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: a big factor in it all because when when I
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: started going on the road, I mean I was twenty
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: two and I had no ties to anything, and you know,
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: driving around the country in a van and playing clubs
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: and that was great. But if you if today, I
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: couldn't I couldn't do that today. Fortunately, I've you know,
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: built up so that it's a you know, my touring
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: is at a level that you know, it's just great.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: So but it takes so many years.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: To do that.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: But you gotta do you gotta. It's gotta be organic.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: You have to start at the at the bottom. You
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: have to play the little clubs and over and over
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: and hone your stagecraft and all that, and it takes
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: decades to do it, for years and years, right, you.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Know what's bad? Note today when you say that, it's
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: like because out of our phones, and we were talking
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: about modern technology, you can't really like try out stuff
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: because somebody's gonna record you and then it's gonna be
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: everywhere if you screw up. Like I was talking to
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: one of my comedian friends, not to name drop, but
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Ray Romano is a friend because we were both golfers.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: We became very good friends. And I asked him, I said,
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: how you know you used to think of here about
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: these comics that would try out a new act at
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: a club before they take it out like in public.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: You can't do that anymore. He goes, Yeah, you can't
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: do that anymore. It's not the way it goes. So
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: it's hard to really try out stuff that you I'm
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: not sure is going to work because everybody's i mean,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: they're they're just recording the whole show. They're not even
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: your phones.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: They are right in front of me.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: They're just Yeah, so that's a little bit. I wish
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: we could do no phones. Of course I'm gonna sneak
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: it in anyway, but if we could do that, that
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: would be pretty great.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I agree. I agree. The phones really take
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: away from the experience because they're they're not you know,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: they're not applauding, they're not interacting with each other. They're
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: they're sort of turned into sort of cameraman they are. Yeah,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: it's yeah, it's a different experience. But anyway. Yeah, So
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: if you're ever in La playing golf, man, I'm a
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: big golfer too, I'd love to play with you.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: You're probably well. I used to be really good. I
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: used to be a plus handicap. Oh really, I was
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: actually a zero. I was a plus one at one point.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, I used to be.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: But I haven't played for a couple of years. I
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: haven't even played, so I really probably a nine or
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: ten handicap at the moment.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm hanging right there too with you, there, bro,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: I mean I'm about that. Yeah. Great, you know I
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: can be Tiger Woods on some holes and Natalie Wood
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: on the other holes.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: You know, have you played with any of the pros.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: I have not. No.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Well, I played with you know, club club pros, but
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: not any of the people that you would know. No,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: And I used to do. I used to do the
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: celebrity tournaments. I played a bunch of those.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: I never did those celebrity tournaments. But what I was
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: I was invited to the eighteen t tournament up at
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: pebble Beat.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: So, oh my god, you have to do that.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: I did it. No, I already did it, like.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Some team, and I like, I played that course once,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: and uh wow, what of course, it's an amazing golf course.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: It's amazing to play with those guys like you know, Yeah,
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: I was up there with Tiger. I was up there
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: with Phil Nicholson, played with you know, all the young players, Rory,
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: I've played with, Adam Scott, I played with these guys.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: They are just I don't know, to play with it.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: I know they're so good. It's just like scary and you.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Think, you think they care about the way you play,
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: and they really don't. So I was I put a
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: lot of pressure on myself for no reason. But I'm
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: thinking they're really interested in what I play. They're not
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: interested at all, couldn't care.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's like, especially Pelbye's program, it's got
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: to be nerve wracking. Get on a T box with
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: all those people and Tiger staring at Yeah, and you
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: got to hit a drive. You got to hit your drive.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's but you know, after sixteen years you get
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: used to it. But at the first kind of nervous,
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: but after a while it's actually super grey. And then
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: the fun part is on the range because you're on
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: the range and like I'm walking by and there's Phil
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Nicholson hitting golf balls, and there's Jason Day hitting golf balls,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: and there's and then and you see what's one of
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: the friendly ones. And some of them are really friendly,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: like hey, come over. Some of them just don't want
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: to talk. And it's fun when you get the pro
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: that's that's interesting, Like, Okay, how do you do this?
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Chip shots? I Philip, come on, how do you do
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: that flop shot? Well, he'd show me do that? How
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: you do come on? Explain it? And you're a terrible
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: teacher he's got it. Was so fun, got to say.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: They can just do it, they can just feel it
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: and do it.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: And they can't tell you how to do it. They
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: can't teach it.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: That's amazing. All right. So you're on tour, you're in,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: you're in, you're in Paris. Tell tell me what we
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: can we can expect and where we can see you
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: coming up?
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Well, go to you know, everything's on my website. But December,
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: we're more on the East coast, Midwest. You were all
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: over the place. And then two years I play in
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Seattle at I do. I do one jazz club, actually
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: do two jazz clubs. I do Seattle Jazz Alley. We
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: played ten shows over five nights and New Year's Eve.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Super great, wow, fantastic, everybody. Go check out Kenny's website.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: What's the website dot com Kenny G dot com, Go,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: get go, get tickets, Go to this guy. He's a master,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: he's a genius, and he's a pretty darn good golfer
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: from what I hear. Absolute pleasure. Please please please come back,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: and it was a pleasure speaking to you, and keep
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: on keeping on. Good luck with the tour. Thank you,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: thank you, and please come back and see us. All
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: the best to you, Kenny, You best fans on the planet.
• 24:22
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• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Go see this guy, and I'm gonna check him out too,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: because I've never seen a Kenny G show and that's
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: what's wrong with my life. And I gotta fix it.
• 24:32
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• 24:36
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