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- 0:46Welcome back to the boundary Corner podcast.
- 0:50My name is Curtis Wilson along with my partner.
- 0:54Brian Siegel. What's up, buddy?
- 0:55How you doing? Oh buddy, having a great
- 0:59Thursday night man cave, fully engaged.
- 1:03I got your Bravo's and the Rays on the TV.
- 1:06I got to stop nuts on the TV and I got to Pelicans jazz on TV as
- 1:12well. Wait for the Lakers Clippers to
- 1:13start and that games Going Through the Wire man.
- 1:16Especially and I do, we got, I got mine pulled up here watching
- 1:19the end of the Pelicans here. I'm hoping that You go by Lakers
- 1:24are going to take care of some Clippers tonight that's the hope
- 1:27so we'll see how it goes. If Brian sounds distracted,
- 1:31later in the episode guys, something's going on with that
- 1:34game and he is focused on it. So, don't be shocked.
- 1:38This can happen because we are sports fans, even outside of our
- 1:43hope, you known. So yeah, man.
- 1:46But Brian, we have a lot to unload tonight.
- 1:51Yeah, a little. Something big came out yesterday
- 1:54that we want to have a little discussion.
- 1:56Oh, oh, yeah. And we're going to get there,
- 1:58but we're going to break a couple quick.
- 1:59Quick hokey, quick takes Brian. Let's go back Duane Lofton 5
- 2:05foot 10 and 175-pound wide receiver out of North Side.
- 2:09High School in Fort Worth, Texas commits.
- 2:13The commitment comes from merrily over Mississippi State,
- 2:18huge win for the Hokies, moved from Houston up to Fort Worth.
- 2:21Will you think about Dwayne lost and what you see out of this
- 2:23guy, one word speed these easily take some time.
- 2:29Self-defense decide. I think he's going to be
- 2:32somebody that can make some big plays for us and it'll be nice.
- 2:36Having a another legit Burger on the field, you know, you know,
- 2:41in a year or two, once he gets he gets his feet under him as a
- 2:45hokie said, I'm looking forward to it.
- 2:46That's a big pickup for us. I think he's definitely going to
- 2:49be a solid solid contributor. I'm not sure if he's only a day
- 2:52one, contributor, but I think this is speed and some of the
- 2:55versatility I saw with him, play multiple positions and doing
- 2:58stuff on special teams. Eames.
- 3:00I think that's going to be get him on the field sooner rather
- 3:03than later. Now, absolutely in end you talk
- 3:06about that versatility last year in the Texas 5A which is one of
- 3:12those criminal mccrum conferences or re, you know,
- 3:18Regional settings in that division.
- 3:19Like you know, the vhl has our Region's Texans, ap5 a
- 3:24first-team all-state in his district, he was the MVP.
- 3:29Listen to the stat line, 60 rushing attempts, 332 yards, 13
- 3:36touchdowns, 55 receptions. 1216 yards, 15 touchdowns you talked
- 3:44about him being the day. One contributor, you kind of
- 3:47look at his body run, he's kind of built, I mean, he puts on 10
- 3:5115 pounds, man. He's the one ready and he's, you
- 3:55know, he's really got close to 12 months to do that whether it
- 3:59be some special packages or coming in, he talked about his
- 4:03fee. May be on kickoffs upon return.
- 4:05I really think you could be a day one contributor just because
- 4:08of that versatility in That would be all from the sea.
- 4:13Yeah, that would be big time and like you said, I think special
- 4:15teams is going to be probably the easiest way to get him on
- 4:17the field right away. I know that we have some other
- 4:22wide receivers that have departed so it's not a room
- 4:26that's completely filled out. So there are going to be some
- 4:29opportunities for them there but I think special teams is
- 4:32definitely the avenue to getting him on the field.
- 4:35Right? Out the gate.
- 4:36Absolutely, absolutely. So great land.
- 4:39There helps move the Hokies up in the composite.
- 4:42In the rankings, he is a three-star. 87, you know, not
- 4:47even a top hundred player in Texas.
- 4:49Why do we should, why should we keep going there?
- 4:52That is why. Yeah, that's why in you want to
- 4:55do the comparison? You look at where he lands.
- 4:57And if you were to be in the state of Virginia, to be
- 5:00adopted, people are and the people who say it's not worth
- 5:04it, no going to these states of the size, your forward, as your
- 5:08Texas, your California's, You have to whether you get one, or
- 5:13you get Five Guys in a year. That's why you got to do it.
- 5:18Exactly. I mean, you know, we talked
- 5:21about what we see here in Virginia and I would love
- 5:23Virginia Town. I love getting Virginia talent
- 5:25in but especially Florida, and Texas.
- 5:29Florida for geography in the footprint at the ACC has and
- 5:32Texas for the experience, and some of our coaching staff,
- 5:35having the area. You're a fool.
- 5:38Not to, at least, try to get Going down there just because of
- 5:40the depth they have in the fact that a lot of these guys that
- 5:43are in that fringed the high priests are low for Star range.
- 5:49Tend to not be the guys that are looking to stay in state or not.
- 5:54Getting big offers from the AMS and the Texas has and the
- 5:57Oklahoma's. Yeah, under percent, man.
- 6:00Well, I think about Virginia Braun, you know, this is kind of
- 6:05near and dear to us being here in the state, but also going to
- 6:08be obviously Um, you know, affecting a lot of the recruits
- 6:13were already have on board. The vhsl came out this week,
- 6:16they have decided on option 3, which I think we all can agree.
- 6:21Option 3, probably was the way to go.
- 6:23Don't take away Seasons from these guys know.
- 6:28So you know option three guys if you haven't known is basically
- 6:34the delay of all the vhl sports in adopting what they call a
- 6:37condensed and there's still a Optic plan.
- 6:41So basically it's going to align as follows winter sports are
- 6:44going to run December 14th of December to February 20th.
- 6:47Best kind of its normal cycle. First contest starts on the
- 6:5120th, few days after Christmas, false Fortune, going to start
- 6:54the 15th and run a February and run through May first, we're
- 6:59going to overlap with the spring Sports.
- 7:02What you're going too far? April 12, through June 26th,
- 7:08that's usually a normal. Or Springport.
- 7:11Yeah. Um, Bond played D like what they
- 7:16did I like what they did a lot because it does keep the
- 7:20Integrity of having the sport played in the year because for a
- 7:24lot of these guys that play high school ball when you play high
- 7:29school ball, that's the last time you play that sport in an
- 7:32organized fashion so that level. So stepping away from it is a
- 7:37big deal and I I think this gives them an opportunity to
- 7:42still get some of that element even though you're not playing
- 7:46in the fall. And even though you're not
- 7:47playing the schedule that you would normally be playing in
- 7:49terms of the number of teams and things of that nature but it
- 7:52still gives you a chance to strap them up with your
- 7:55teammates one more time and go out the way you want to go out
- 7:58and not go out because, you know, pandemic said you couldn't
- 8:01play. So I think that's big.
- 8:04Most of the guys that are playing D1 Sports more than
- 8:07likely are opting out anyway. Especially under since we're not
- 8:13playing in the fall at all, if there were fall Sports, I think
- 8:16they, you know, they would play potentially depending on the
- 8:19situation but with it being moved completely out of the
- 8:23Fall, there's no way that I think that most of vision when
- 8:25athletes are going to play their senior year at this point, I
- 8:29could be wrong but I think that'll stand for at least the
- 8:31majority of power 5 players, if not most of division, 1 players.
- 8:35But this isn't this just doesn't bring up some opportunities for
- 8:38some of these other guys to maybe get a Look that they
- 8:40wouldn't have gotten otherwise, you got some fairly talented
- 8:45skilled position players that don't always get a lot of reps
- 8:49because there's a limited number.
- 8:51And you always want to get yours Town, two guys out there.
- 8:53So I think that's where an opportunity stands for a lot of
- 8:57these guys. Some of these skill position
- 8:59players showing what they have, so that can open up.
- 9:02So maybe D2 D3 opportunities for guys that otherwise thought that
- 9:06their High School careers might be done After High School.
- 9:10For their football, careers might be done After High School.
- 9:13Absolutely. You said it already, the guys
- 9:16who are going, do you want FPS at CES?
- 9:18They're probably not going to play and they should I'll be
- 9:21straight just because if they play the season would you know?
- 9:24It's technically going to be any pretty late spring.
- 9:27Then you talk about recoup and most of those guys whether it be
- 9:31fpses, they're heading to school in June they're starting.
- 9:36They're already starting the Collegiate workout plans then
- 9:38obviously You're normal. You're normal training pants.
- 9:44Yeah. So make sense for them.
- 9:46You made the perfect point, the guys who could be looked at D2
- 9:49D3 in AI. Those are the guys who benefit
- 9:53from this because it's like just go out there and play because
- 9:57now you think alike Jalen Jones down, Thomas Jefferson, or as
- 10:02there is a up that staff and they're probably not going to
- 10:04play, we have respect that certain completely, but now the
- 10:08guys behind them, Will get essentially probably truly an
- 10:12extra year to prove whether they be Juniors or seniors and you
- 10:15made that point, maybe that's the eye.
- 10:18They can't play the D1 level. They're, you know, they're not
- 10:20built. They don't have the skill, but
- 10:22your alma mater. The form of the three
- 10:26Randolph-Macon. Yep.
- 10:28You know, Virginia, Virginia state.
- 10:31Maybe that's the chance to get to go in there and say, hey,
- 10:33this is nice. You know, we wouldn't even
- 10:35thought about this because he was behind this guy.
- 10:39And this guy doesn't get all the rest.
- 10:40So I personally, I really like it and I like it that we're
- 10:45going to give the chance. You know, I'll say this, my
- 10:47neighbor behind me is son, plays basketball.
- 10:51We were so worried that they were going to completely cancel
- 10:54sport so he wouldn't get a single season.
- 10:56So I'm really happy for the kids that are going to get to play
- 10:58their senior seasons and maybe some kids who get opportunities,
- 11:02they would not have had, so it's pretty awesome.
- 11:07All right, so first we can do the big stuff now.
- 11:10Ron, you know, yesterday, mid-afternoon, it kind of
- 11:15happened, you know, go ahead, play the tape and give me your
- 11:19thoughts. After much consideration with my
- 11:26family, I have decided to opt out of the 2020 college football
- 11:29season and began preparing for the 2021 NFL draft.
- 11:33I am opting out, do the uncertain health, conditions,
- 11:35and regulations, and all the other opt-outs going on in
- 11:38football. Right now, I tragically lost my
- 11:41mother, Robin January 2nd 2018 to illness and I cannot afford
- 11:46to lose another parent or loved one.
- 11:49Do you competitor me? Badly wants to play this season?
- 11:53I cannot ignore what's going on in my heart and I must make the
- 11:55decision. That brings me the most peace.
- 11:58So thank you for joining Tech, my coaches teammates And anyone
- 12:03else who has supported me in the past.
- 12:06I wish you all the best and stay safe.
- 12:08God bless. Yes.
- 12:10That was else. Caleb Fairley opting out of his
- 12:14season at Virginia Tech for this fall to prepare for the draft.
- 12:18Most of that stemming from a weariness of not wanting to take
- 12:24the risk of being someone that would get someone else in his
- 12:28family's sick and you know respect that decision 100%.
- 12:33Especially for a guy that, you know, all of us have been
- 12:35talking about. We knew he was gone after this
- 12:37year, we knew it was coming and I understand with some of the
- 12:42things we're going to talk about in a few minutes and just
- 12:45everything going on in the uncertainty of, you know, are
- 12:48the protocols of the Evan play. Something that's going to be
- 12:51good enough to keep everyone safe. 100%.
- 12:55Respect the decision on top of not wanting to maybe injure
- 13:00yourself in these unknown circumstances and you hurt Are
- 13:03your dress talking that way. Definitely want to make sure
- 13:06that you're taking care of those around you that you love.
- 13:08So respected, 100% and wish him nothing but the best and just
- 13:15hope he does. Well with that with the training
- 13:17leading up to the draft. What do you think buddy?
- 13:19Yeah man. Um the reason he give was you
- 13:23can't question that the guy lost his mom less than two years ago
- 13:27and a battle with cancer. He's got his dad and I think the
- 13:30first thing he thinks about is gone.
- 13:33To play. Yeah, but I've got my dad.
- 13:37He's probably gonna be the only person here every week, coming
- 13:40to all my games watching me and we have protocols in place.
- 13:45We see it like from today, you saw the Phillies, right?
- 13:50Yep. They haven't been around Marlins
- 13:53since Sunday and into guys just tested positive today who's not
- 13:57to say, you know, we're playing pit and they tested fine.
- 14:03And they would bubble. But then a couple days later,
- 14:05will somebody not feeling right? And I think for him, it's he's
- 14:08got his dad, and he's looking ahead to the Future saying.
- 14:12I'm going to go to the NFL next year.
- 14:16I'm going to have my family set for life.
- 14:19This is an unmitigated risk. I'm not willing to take, not so
- 14:24much horrible. Maybe getting hurt or something,
- 14:26but potentially get someone in my family safe, I have no issues
- 14:31with it. Nobody Fuse.
- 14:34You know, you see the video and Chef turned everything when it
- 14:37broke. You could tell it was a very
- 14:39emotional decision for him. He, you know, gave a shout out
- 14:42to a teammate, shouts, who the coaches attack.
- 14:45So I have no issue with it. It is kind of funny, Brian.
- 14:51Guess who is now the number one rated quarterback for the ACC
- 14:56that beat your pain Waller? Oh yeah.
- 15:00Well, so you need a hokey. It's out.
- 15:03And then we've got another hokey as the number one corner in the
- 15:06conference DB, who D bu, oh, yeah and Armani Chapman out of
- 15:16200, true freshman that have played enough snaps last year
- 15:19was the number 9. True freshman Corner in the
- 15:22country. In that department.
- 15:24We was Caleb all the best but Brian is I was sitting there in
- 15:28that announcement was made. David feel, you know, the
- 15:33Virginia Hall of Fame Rider pops out.
- 15:35I think we got something coming down soon.
- 15:37And when Kayla made his, he made that tweet.
- 15:41I got put two and two together real quick.
- 15:42I shot you a text dude. It's happening today.
- 15:44Yep. It was like yep.
- 15:47They stole the coaches, the coaches.
- 15:49It filled and players K. Omega is about.
- 15:52You put everybody in public. So folks, we are here the ACC
- 15:58yesterday. Essentially.
- 16:01Least its guidelines for the fall, including the ACC football
- 16:05schedule and some schedules, you know, because I'm not only
- 16:09personal couch, I give credit to the conference for outlining
- 16:12that because they want to give those guys a chance to play too.
- 16:14But were you shot Bronte that they released yesterday when
- 16:21everything up that yesterday was saying that they're not going to
- 16:23release anything today was a little shot just because I
- 16:29thought they were still some Kinks to iron out.
- 16:32It was what it sounded like and then all of a sudden everything
- 16:36was good. I'm wondering if and we'll get
- 16:39to that issue later but I'm wondering if the the plus one
- 16:43format was the the equivalent part of the the deal that was
- 16:48being made especially in relation to what the SEC
- 16:52ultimately came out with later. So I'm wondering if that was the
- 16:56the big thing there. But it's really interesting
- 16:58seeing what they came out with here, it was Was.
- 17:02Not what we were. I think thinking I think a lot
- 17:05of us were kind of maybe leaning towards a pod situation through
- 17:11up until you know, maybe the last few days and all of a
- 17:13sudden we get a different format so this does create some more
- 17:18interesting matchups. I think.
- 17:21But it does not come with its without its controversy so once
- 17:26you pick up with some of that as well oh yeah Matt not well let's
- 17:29let's just start on. Let's go with the dates.
- 17:32Because I want everybody to kind of know the succession of
- 17:36things. You know, further release is the
- 17:40schedule, start the week of September 7th through 12th
- 17:43September 7 is Labor Day night. I think they specifically did
- 17:46that. I think they need to get that
- 17:48national game on not guarantee but I think they're going to try
- 17:52to maybe get one. Maybe two you know Labor Day.
- 17:56We hey let's play at 3:30 in a 730.
- 17:58Screw it. Let's get some national
- 17:59publicity. You know, and maybe even that
- 18:04week maybe they even spread a couple more out a to make less
- 18:08the easier on the travel schedule.
- 18:10Baby was due on Thursday. Let's do one Friday.
- 18:12Let's get the rest done on that Saturday.
- 18:16I see that but right now it's 13 weeks for 11 games, the ACC
- 18:21Championship would either be December 12th, or December 19.
- 18:26That is something very interesting that they didn't set
- 18:29that date. That is a a week after where it
- 18:34normally would be one to two weeks after.
- 18:37So that makes me raise my eyebrows.
- 18:39So what do you think about the layout of the dates right now
- 18:41Braun before we get into the format and some of the other
- 18:44stuff, the layout of the dates are telling me that they're not
- 18:47sure what they're doing with the bowls. 100% right there, right
- 18:52away, I'm thinking that other than probably the major bowls.
- 18:59Very good. Be no bowls this year.
- 19:01That would be my guess just looking at those dates and
- 19:04looking at you know I will get to it later but you know, even
- 19:08even other conferences starting later than we are.
- 19:11Yeah. So I definitely think that we're
- 19:14looking at maybe taking anything, not at least December
- 19:2028th or later off the table. In terms of bowls.
- 19:24I don't know what you're thinking about that.
- 19:25Scheduled that that was my first take away seeing these these
- 19:28days. Throughout their well, I think,
- 19:31maybe with the bowl, maybe not, you know, five months is a long
- 19:36time away. Might you tell me?
- 19:38The vaccine comes down to November.
- 19:40There will be bold. I don't even doubt that one bit,
- 19:44but to me, I think it's more of their, it's almost like they're
- 19:48saying you things happen, and we have to cancel a game.
- 19:52Let's go. Pin not born.
- 19:54We've already got two. Bye weeks, let's go over a few
- 19:57more fun for weeks. When something does happen and
- 20:00let's say, they can't wait, could we had an outbreak to you
- 20:05after school? Well, if we need that game, we
- 20:08now have a proper built into where we can say.
- 20:11Hey, you guys are cleaned up now.
- 20:13You're straight, here's the deal.
- 20:18You're going to play on the 12th?
- 20:20Are you going to play on the 5th to make up this game?
- 20:23And we're going to see what happens do it.
- 20:25If we need extra games, we can have them too.
- 20:28I think. You talk about the bowls, I just
- 20:30see. Now they've built themselves in.
- 20:33It's a 13-week, these but nothing else a 15-week season,
- 20:35because of how much they defended it.
- 20:37Yeah. And I think what they were
- 20:39saying, what I was trying to say, I guess is they built
- 20:42themselves that buffer. They're valuing the regular
- 20:44season over having to get the bowls at?
- 20:47All right. I think that's important.
- 20:48Oh God. And if you think about it, I
- 20:50believe with the ACC 19th is usually the first weekend of
- 20:54old. The ACC is not affiliated with
- 20:57any of those bowls. They simply stop really doesn't
- 21:00start until the end of the next week going into Christmas and
- 21:03definitely after Christmas because you know you've got
- 21:06Independence Bowl Pinstripe Bowl.
- 21:08They are always right after Christmas.
- 21:14So I think that's right but I think they're just trying to
- 21:16build in some safety precautions and that's fine.
- 21:18And that's what you've got to do if you're going to try to get
- 21:20this even in this crazy time I have no issue with.
- 21:25So you mentioned it already, let's jump to it the format it
- 21:29is Ten Conference games, it is one out of conference game.
- 21:33We have no divisions, no divisions the revisions, the two
- 21:40top teams, Will mean the ACC Championship Game including
- 21:45Notre Dame including editor Dame, I'm fine with that.
- 21:48I say it half-heartedly, I'm fine with it because it's a lot
- 21:52more exposure for the conference and some, you know, money money
- 21:58money. We'll get to that a few minutes
- 21:59to. So they're going to play this in
- 22:02conference games. Now, you do see, you have some
- 22:05normal divisional matchups what will see every year but some are
- 22:09canceled The most notable for Virginia Tech is there is no
- 22:15Georgia Tech game. Rick no Ramblin wreck from
- 22:19Georgia Tech. Still, one of my best
- 22:21experiences was when we beat that ass and 05 with game day,
- 22:25shout out to my fraternity, Brother.
- 22:27David few could have got us tickets and we went up there.
- 22:30Did the whole experience unbelievable.
- 22:33Um, but we don't play Georgia Tech, okay?
- 22:37I don't think that's any love was.
- 22:38I don't think anybody's upset about that.
- 22:42But you kind of seen some funky things you know we're not the
- 22:46only ones affected, a few other teams aren't playing some
- 22:48traditional things. They play on their side of the
- 22:51divisions, but I think we all get it for this year now.
- 22:56What are you saying? I mean, did any other did
- 22:58anything else like jump out to you or do you think they got
- 23:01enough of the big games right to where it's like okay we all
- 23:05stored you take this team all set and I think they got the big
- 23:08ones right? If I had any qualms with the
- 23:11Schedule. I would have probably replaced
- 23:15since it was I think they were both scheduled as home games.
- 23:18Anyway, replaced Boston College of Georgia Tech, okay.
- 23:22That would have been my last, my change because travel wise, it's
- 23:25about the same. I would say give or take for
- 23:29them. I think we're still playing
- 23:31Boston College, though. That's insane.
- 23:33I would trade it. I would apply whether playing
- 23:34for detective Bowen versus BC at home because the traveling for
- 23:38each team would probably about the same.
- 23:40Yeah. The BC coming down to us,
- 23:44Georgia Tech coming up to us, that, that would have been my
- 23:47trade off there. I care more about the Georgia
- 23:50Tech robbery than I do about BC short of a few years of Matt,
- 23:55Ryan. No one really gives Has a shit
- 23:57about BC author game that every text and he's like, we gotta
- 24:02play them. Like what was your in the babies
- 24:05together? Yeah.
- 24:10Again it didn't really wasn't a matchup, they really heated up
- 24:13that much until both teams are in the ACC Braun.
- 24:20We look at there is right now. Vacc, currently has on the
- 24:23table. I put in are quotations.
- 24:25A plus one. That opponent.
- 24:28It must be played in the home state of the ACC school.
- 24:31It must be metal requirements. They must be familiar with the
- 24:34requirements protocol step by the ATT.
- 24:37So, in essence, what it's saying is, there will be no out of
- 24:39conference away games or neutral site game.
- 24:41So UVA gets lucky, they don't have to play Georgia unc's
- 24:45lucky, they don't have to play Auburn, you know.
- 24:52They have to bring the ACC protocol which I think it's it
- 24:55is a whether it's a P5, or an independent or an FCS school,
- 24:59they're going to agree because it's money on the table for
- 25:02them. It's also more or less the same
- 25:04protocols that they're probably going through in their
- 25:06conference anyway. Exactly my gut says most teams
- 25:11are just going to find someone and their state very close
- 25:13neighbor that will fulfill this need.
- 25:17I think we're just going to keep Liberty, I really do unless they
- 25:21do not abide by Our protocols, which might be the case?
- 25:23Because, you know, they've already done some stupid crap
- 25:26down there. What do you think you think?
- 25:30Would you? Well, would you stay with
- 25:32liberty or we? I think a lot of want depend on
- 25:36the contract language and whether that contract language
- 25:39applies to, since we are playing and out of conference game and
- 25:44they meet the qualifications, is that agreement still something
- 25:48that we would need to honor? I would think not.
- 25:53Just based on everything else. But again, there's some
- 25:56contractual things that I'm not privy to.
- 25:58So, I'm not going to speak with any Authority on that.
- 26:03That being said, I think there may be better options out there
- 26:08that are less controversial in terms of the larger fan base and
- 26:14not just the political aspects of it.
- 26:16I guess so, I mean, I have no problem with keeping Liberty on
- 26:21their it, If especially, if that's the path of least
- 26:25resistance. But I wouldn't mind seeing
- 26:28adding either ODU back in there or getting a j mu or someone
- 26:31like that on the schedule as well.
- 26:33So, I could really go any Direction with that as long as
- 26:37we play in Lane, that's all that really matters to me.
- 26:40That is all that really matters. I also think this is one of
- 26:43those caveat, I think it's things were to change.
- 26:46I think they would cut this out quick.
- 26:47I think they would cut the plus one quick, and yeah, that's the
- 26:50easiest one to get rid of and it, All you do is just turn that
- 26:53into an extra openly. Exactly.
- 26:58And you know, I don't really care who it is.
- 27:01I think right now most technical to get out of the Liberty idea
- 27:04because they feel like it's becoming a dangerous.
- 27:06Probably gonna become an ECU deal, which do again, you don't
- 27:10want to happen. So, yeah.
- 27:13Now so we got the date. We got the format column, let's
- 27:19call money and television, because if The reason this is
- 27:22happening with Notre Dame is become because there ain't no
- 27:27doubt that one of the biggest keys and getting this deal.
- 27:30Done was getting Notre Dame, they are not sharing part.
- 27:32They are sharing all of their NBC money.
- 27:35Equal pi equals pi and other various sources.
- 27:39Because remember, they get, they have some additional things
- 27:42where they pull funds in from that.
- 27:43No other team is available. Now since we really don't know
- 27:50the Notre Dame, On track with in DC, we really can't have a
- 27:54calculated. Some people like also want to
- 27:55like 15 million a year, which I call bullshit on.
- 27:58I think it's a hell of a lot more because if you look at that
- 28:01contract, that apparently was in grains about 10 years ago, some
- 28:0515 million. You do some of the other mess,
- 28:07like this team would not be doing this.
- 28:11If they were 10 to 12 million behind in Revenue, they wouldn't
- 28:15know when stay independent would make physical sense.
- 28:19But now, all of you is all the resources into a pot, chapter 15
- 28:24ways. In the any, any, any qualms,
- 28:30any, any questions you have about that?
- 28:34I mean, I'll, I like that as a kind of made culpa for letting
- 28:40your guys potentially play for the fucking ACC Championship
- 28:43game. If you've got to have a
- 28:47trade-off, that's a hell of a good trade-off, in a season of
- 28:51pandemic, where, a lot of these athletic departments are
- 28:53hemorrhaging Money. Hold on.
- 28:55Brad, what you're saying? This is what I'm sure.
- 28:58The dacc commit, the ACC 80s looked at swarbrick in the guys
- 29:03at Notre Dame. And what do you think?
- 29:05They said, fuck, you pay me. Yes, we had a slip, once you
- 29:12slip that in there. That's what they said.
- 29:14So that's exactly what went down and you know, good for them for
- 29:20for putting pressure on there and saying hey if you want to be
- 29:26a part of this conference, During this thing and
- 29:28potentially play for our conference Championship, you
- 29:30need to come up off some of that green that you're sitting on
- 29:33there. And like you said, there's a
- 29:35reason that they've been able to maintain Independence, it's not
- 29:39just that they I mean I'm sure they do have, they have donors
- 29:42at the Wazoo. They've got this that and the
- 29:44other that funds, our Athletic program, but there's no way that
- 29:47they're making their least making by themselves.
- 29:51What an individual ACC team is making in media dollars.
- 29:54So, just adding that into the pot and spreading Round is going
- 29:58to be nice. Yep.
- 30:00And I'm sure they're probably making more than that especially
- 30:02with all the other avenues that you were speaking on.
- 30:04So I think it's a good idea. I guess the other part of this
- 30:10whole money thing is and we haven't really addressed this
- 30:12yet, is we've seen some waffling from like the dude's and you
- 30:20know Bronco Mendenhall making a statement the other day about,
- 30:24you know, things, you know. The players and things like
- 30:28that. So, you know, should have Team
- 30:30opted out what's going to happen with this money Curtis in the
- 30:34school. I felt I almost want to be like
- 30:36as the other teams that are there.
- 30:38They fuck you, pay us. I don't think that will happen.
- 30:42I don't think they will have to give up their full share, but if
- 30:44it seemed awesome, I think you're gonna see the commit, the
- 30:48commissioner along with the other dadss.
- 30:50Say, listen, they don't have to nail fund a football team.
- 30:56For the, for the operational expenses scholarships, but you
- 31:00pay your coaches, that's like, no, that's different.
- 31:02Well, let's not even go there. I think they'll probably have to
- 31:05give up half. I think that would probably be
- 31:08something where it says, if you choose to opt out, this is what
- 31:12you're getting. The rest.
- 31:13Were putting back into the pot, we'll split it equally and guess
- 31:17what, let's freeze their half of the normally see or half of the
- 31:23a cc, and BCC combined pie. Everything everything.
- 31:27So what's your will be from like, for example, let's say,
- 31:32let's say you put Notre, Dame's money in and it comes up to 30
- 31:34million. Because last year, I think the
- 31:36ACC was a 27 and you just say, give or take Notre Dame's maybe
- 31:40roughly third and you just basically say you're going to
- 31:44get 15 fun with you need to find the other 15, the other million
- 31:48other 15 is going back to the other schools that are playing
- 31:52because you you but what you're doing is you're losing your
- 31:54rights because this is Supposed to be too fun, your football
- 31:57tape of the expenses and all the stuff you're up and out, you're
- 32:01not playing personally. I think it was some of that some
- 32:05of those statements were pandering and, you know, you can
- 32:09be concerned. We're all concerned, you know
- 32:11about what's going on. Yeah, I don't think anyone's
- 32:14taking this lightly. No, and we see that statements
- 32:18just like, dude, come on, nobody's taking this lightly,
- 32:23nobody's taking this lightly. You look at The protocols or
- 32:26they're going place, it would not surprise me if in the next.
- 32:29What do we six weeks away from first weekend kick?
- 32:32Yeah, surprise me at all. But they eventually said, maybe
- 32:36two three weeks. When out, listen you got to
- 32:37figure out a bubble for your players.
- 32:42Talk with your academic. Thanks and say they're going to
- 32:44all be online. They're basically going to be
- 32:47the class here inside your athletic Building train yada
- 32:49yada back home almost away. What's happening with major
- 32:54league baseball in the NFL, it's going to be on the The Players
- 32:58personal responsibility to not go out with guys.
- 33:01Don't go to cots. Don't go to Sharky.
- 33:03Stay away from Fraternity, Row, House Parties.
- 33:07You can do that next semester. Actually you should be careful
- 33:13with it next semester as well even if we have stuff because
- 33:15you know there's still things out there but that's my thought.
- 33:20My first goal will be give them nothing but then realistically
- 33:24you know moderate me says you got to give them something
- 33:26because it does fund other sports.
- 33:29Yeah I mean I think I'm wearing the they get 50% of what they
- 33:34would have gotten under a normal season and the Notre Dame money
- 33:38gets split over just the Teams that are actually playing.
- 33:42So I don't think they should be entitled to the Notre Dame money
- 33:45because they're opting out of a system and that included the
- 33:48other day and said, the system wouldn't exist without their
- 33:51names of you're opting out of that system you opt out of their
- 33:53money. The problem right now, some
- 33:56milk, that's interesting is the TV because, you know, really for
- 34:02Notre Dame in their contract, it's normally they get all their
- 34:05home games on the only Envy but with this, I mean, do you think
- 34:11I feel like that's all could possibly change?
- 34:13Because you're talking about, depending on the way it looking
- 34:17G5 school like Conference. USA said they're basically
- 34:21playing in a game schedule this year.
- 34:22I think one out of conference in state very similar to the ACC
- 34:26guidelines, so there still will be a lot of football, you know,
- 34:31but the way I kind of see it is, if they do this, you know, we're
- 34:36avoiding them. So it doesn't affect tect, but,
- 34:40you know, until the ACC Championship game.
- 34:42But I think you're going to see them get a couple of away games.
- 34:46I think they're going to get if they choose to go.
- 34:49If you have the pics true games there and let's say we the out
- 34:52of conference days. Yeah.
- 34:54I think it will be looked at at least one or two of their away
- 34:58games, because the conference could be putting stress and say,
- 35:05we're going to put this on them because, you know, they play
- 35:07Florida State. Let's say Norville gets more
- 35:11estate in the right direction. That's a midseason game.
- 35:14Their Korean won Notre Dame's for of.
- 35:17Yeah, you don't if it's down at FSU and I've got to go look at
- 35:20the calendar to see where that game is.
- 35:22I believe that everything you ever, she's actually a home game
- 35:26for them. So here's what I would think and
- 35:30I'll throw this out there to you, okay?
- 35:33So they're away games RBC Georgia, Tech UNC pit and Wake
- 35:37Forest. I can see.
- 35:39See ACC flexes muscles and saying fuck you you're not
- 35:45playing UNC your pit on NBC, but will give you a b c or Wake,
- 35:49Forest? I want.
- 35:51You say you're saying they're going to try to flex their
- 35:53muscle, on their home game. They're making a big games.
- 35:57I got you a doorway. So they season say, you can
- 36:00place them away games on your NBC contract, but those big
- 36:04gains that you're playing a way, they're going to be on the SEC
- 36:07network. Yeah, I got ya.
- 36:08I got what you're Saying though that makes that makes a lot of
- 36:12sense like the smaller games in there.
- 36:14But the pit the you and these who are projected to be, you
- 36:17know, pretty good this year. Not, we're making sure they're
- 36:20going to be on the ACC agreed with that.
- 36:24So it will be interesting to see how that works.
- 36:26That's probably a lot of legal stuff that involves a lot of
- 36:29lawyers. So yeah man.
- 36:32But either way, you know, The next piece to kind of look at is
- 36:39we're doing this money look straight or mat straight bait
- 36:43straight behind our buddy. John Earl, the fourth
- 36:51hampden-sydney Alum as you're settled sir, Jr.
- 36:54Yours for he set us up with the the mileage chart and Virginia
- 37:02Tech. Well, we are the low balls here.
- 37:05Pretty much maxed out. Evelyn.
- 37:06Basically this is by John did it by flight.
- 37:10So basically if you fly from here to here, text only
- 37:13traveling 135 miles for the all of their way games significant.
- 37:18Now, you kind of look across the Spectrum, it makes sense to your
- 37:23larger ones are. It's Miami, it's FSU and it's
- 37:28BC. Yep Miami is by his calculations
- 37:33traveling. The farthest 13 over 13. 100 Mi
- 37:37bici it. 2700 take that back. Notre Dame also 2,700 but then
- 37:43these kind of start is starts compressing more and more and
- 37:45you kind of see it for like BC Miami.
- 37:49They don't they have maybe one drivable game, it's be see if
- 37:53they want to bust down a Syracuse.
- 37:54It's Miami if they want bus over to Tallahassee and that's still
- 37:57about an 8 or 10 hour drive but you kind of look at it and you
- 38:00got the data in front of you there.
- 38:02It's it's actually kind of Louisville set across.
- 38:05I'm Yes, we get the favorable one because, you know, like UVA
- 38:09for example, has traveled over 2,000 miles.
- 38:11We're honestly the outlier, like, we already a good amount.
- 38:15Yeah. Everything else is kind of like
- 38:171,200, it above like so there's there's a big difference just as
- 38:21the starting point there. And, you know, it helps to
- 38:26things helped us in this case. So, the biggest one is that
- 38:31we're in the traditional ACC footprint from jump, so, So,
- 38:36right away, we're, I have less traveled by default than some of
- 38:40the other teams that were added later, especially the BCS, and
- 38:43the Florida teams. So that helped us number two.
- 38:48The fact that on our original schedule, we were already
- 38:51playing some of our longest competitors at home.
- 38:57Like I see like Miami. Yeah.
- 39:00So they just kind of put those into the schedule.
- 39:03So really we're looking at like What pit in Louisville is our
- 39:09biggest, our biggest travel games.
- 39:11Yeah, that's it. And everything else is in the,
- 39:14the Carolina region. So and Wake Forest is obviously
- 39:19just a hop skip and a jump away. We can legitimately did three of
- 39:25our awakens. We can drive you Carolina and
- 39:28wake. Get in the bus, boys.
- 39:30Let's get down. 81. Yep, let's go.
- 39:35We have If they're letting people in the stadium, if
- 39:37they're letting people in the stadium, yeah, which they
- 39:40haven't gotten to that point yet, in terms of Lisa conference
- 39:43level guideline, which I don't think they're going to do,
- 39:45because certain states are going to have certain rules.
- 39:48It's going to be hard to have a blanket policy.
- 39:52Like, they might set a ceiling. They might set a ceiling but
- 39:55yeah, I'm not going to set a floor.
- 39:57Yeah, what will the interesting with that?
- 40:00And this this is we haven't discussed it yet.
- 40:03It wasn't even on the agenda but Think would what's got to happen
- 40:07is? Now that it's set is once a few
- 40:11other things, get protocols, get in place.
- 40:14My bet is each and every one of these 80s and the presidents are
- 40:19probably going to go to their state Governor and like request
- 40:22a special, we want to special waiver regardless because here
- 40:29it is, you know, maintaining 66,000 people.
- 40:34Open air. There's no there.
- 40:37We can effectively social distance, Double 12 feet.
- 40:41We would like to put 15,000 20,000 people in here.
- 40:44We're going to thankfully social distance we're going to require
- 40:47and if you I think they're going to go through the political
- 40:50route and you know, go to the governor's, you know, Carolina
- 40:54you call these places going to be exact same thing.
- 40:56This is how many we'd like and wait for the approval because
- 41:00they could go with. Let's go with the high number
- 41:02twenty-three thousand, Katie 23. We looked at Yeah.
- 41:05But you can do 15 boom, cool ride with us and you know then
- 41:11obviously the logistical people in the ticket offices are going
- 41:14to that crazy figuring out who gets to exactly.
- 41:17I think what they'll end up doing is something like if you
- 41:19said 20,000 would be the Benchmark.
- 41:23Yeah you go, you go. Every other row.
- 41:25Yes. Eating people.
- 41:26And then you go to seats between any block of seats sold.
- 41:31Yeah. The CD follow, I did
- 41:33measurements seats are. 38 and a half inches.
- 41:38If so, if you put two seats between a block of tickets sold,
- 41:40you've got your six foot social distancing between your parties.
- 41:44You get exactly. And then clearly from 111 row to
- 41:48another is clearly more than 60 plus.
- 41:50You're talking about, you're looking at the back of someone,
- 41:53not the front of someone that's got to be figured out.
- 41:57I'm hoping they will allow fans in if they don't I won't be
- 42:01shot. I won't be upset either but that
- 42:03kind of is what it is. I mean we're starting to get
- 42:05used to that with some of the sports were watching at
- 42:09Especially if I Lakers up 8:47. Worry.
- 42:13I look to the left, right? As I was talking about it.
- 42:15I was like, okay, there we go. 39, I like it.
- 42:18It's start watching the baseball game scene.
- 42:21No one there. It's kind of awkward to see in
- 42:23the cardboard cutouts but you kind of get used to it.
- 42:28And the funny piece is a lot of these guys in all these forfeit
- 42:32play to empty places before. Yeah.
- 42:35Come on. Leave until you like we just get
- 42:37in the zone. We Couldn't tell you what's
- 42:38going on outside, the field of play because that's the way
- 42:42they're built. I mean, especially when you talk
- 42:45about baseball being some of these, you know, these Podunk
- 42:48single a teams, oh God, but played a game in the middle of
- 42:52the week. They're used to playing to like
- 42:55100 fans and I mean, it's probably not that different than
- 42:59when you're looking at. Now, let me say this, the the
- 43:03bro-in-law we had a conversation about it and he said the way it
- 43:07looks, Is the way it reminded him of perfect games.
- 43:10You've heard a perfect game, right?
- 43:11Like yeah, he said, that's the way it's going to feel and he's
- 43:15like the guys who play in the Major League level.
- 43:19He's like every single one of those guys play a perfect game.
- 43:21Oh, so they're they've been used to being, you know, in a stadium
- 43:25with no one there barely just your family.
- 43:28Maybe maybe, you know, 100 people in a 40,000 see Stadium.
- 43:32He's like but could but we're built that way.
- 43:34Were built the focus on the game.
- 43:35Not the crowd. So yeah.
- 43:37Brian. And you know, is crazy as this
- 43:42here. Is there some crazy good
- 43:47matchups that now because of all this craziness we stumbled into
- 43:51now. Virginia Tech you know tell
- 43:54everybody we tell them the normal but the normals we aren't
- 43:58seeing the three teams All right, so obviously, we don't
- 44:06have Georgia Tech. We've already talked about them.
- 44:10Yeah, the one that we added though.
- 44:12Oh, the one, the one, the big one, the big one.
- 44:18Clemson you ever heard of them? Oh God.
- 44:20Yeah. Then we also talked about
- 44:25Georgia Tech dropping off, but we added in NC State which is
- 44:27kind of, I think a fairly even swap in terms of skill level, I
- 44:33think Georgia Tech or is kind of trending up.
- 44:35Once he stayed is trending down. NC State, maybe has a couple
- 44:40more guys talented on the roster right now but I think they're
- 44:44floundering and they're very anemic offensively, he's just
- 44:47like Georgia Tech so I don't think that's a big, big
- 44:53difference in the trade-off there and easier travel easier.
- 44:58Travel, you know, I mean, those are the two big ones there.
- 45:04Now, we kept Louisville, which left Louisville is very nice,
- 45:08that they are trending up. Satterfield's got them going.
- 45:11I'm in the right direction, you know, and we get wake again
- 45:16again, local, there they're sorted down with Jamie Newman.
- 45:21Transferring Always good defense.
- 45:23That would Clausen. So I mean, I like the way you
- 45:29put some my fault, we traded Penn State to Clemson.
- 45:32Okay, we lost that trade, I'm sorry, Clemson.
- 45:34It better and stays busy better team than not.
- 45:37Not just talent wise. But yeah, looking top to bottom
- 45:40even though I'm no disrespect their to anybody, on Penn
- 45:44State's tab, but never got it wrong.
- 45:47He's dead. We tried to NC State for Georgia
- 45:49Tech, as you mentioned, even swap, Louisville was on the
- 45:53schedule. Anyway, we're going to play them
- 45:55and essentially we traded wake for Middle, Tennessee, North
- 45:59Alabama. Yeah.
- 46:00For to lower lower. Also ran things that we really
- 46:06all there were on our schedule, so I think we made out.
- 46:09Okay, but, you know, couple from other schools didn't, but I've
- 46:15just been looking and you think about, they got it set.
- 46:19I'm sure there's someone in the ACC office in.
- 46:22Greensboro because yes, you got Clemson DT.
- 46:26It's down at Lane. Whether they have whether they
- 46:29have fangs or not. That's a big game.
- 46:33What about comes and plays? Miami constant plays Notre Dame?
- 46:40Yeah. UNC gets FSU Norville endures
- 46:44first year. You can see also, business
- 46:47entertain. Let me for this one at you.
- 46:50Yeah, it's Syracuse's away schedule.
- 46:53Limited Syracuse's away, schedule.
- 46:55Let me go, I'll write it down for you, buddy.
- 46:58Running guy puts it away, Louisville away, UNC away, Notre
- 47:02Dame away, get away. They're not winning an away
- 47:06game. There was nobody sees it had a
- 47:08pretty brutal away schedule. Was it uba?
- 47:11Uba isn't great, Clemson, FSU, Miami, Virginia Tech, Wake
- 47:16Forest. Well, I'm great Bob not great at
- 47:22all. And they still have to play a
- 47:24couple tough home games as well with Louisville and you and see,
- 47:28oh my God. So you be a guy that screwed in
- 47:31the way Syracuse just got. They just put Syracuse in the
- 47:35trashcan. Dumpster like you don't really
- 47:37care about you, just go Syracuse, you can opt out
- 47:39because any to any road trip, you're taking you're losing, you
- 47:42can take that out, you want then it's not only going to take the
- 47:46other. They might take to you about
- 47:47three to four touchdowns and every gain even bit but let me
- 47:51get back because that's hilarious.
- 47:53All right, so then Louisville, Miami pit Clemson.
- 47:56And that's cool. You see that being a war pit
- 47:58Notre Dame. I mean, this is probably some of
- 48:02the best stuff that's come out of the schedule is.
- 48:04Is because you have an everybody play.
- 48:08Each other, you're seeing more highlighted matchups.
- 48:11Now I'm hoping the ACC doesn't screw the pooch and like force
- 48:16like or oblique through these games in one weekend like dear
- 48:19God does no no no, spread these things out while we crawled from
- 48:24our crossing, our fingers. Hoping to God.
- 48:26There's a season. So we can have, like, all been,
- 48:30that's what is technically and noon.
- 48:32Well, that's the best to 7:00 kick.
- 48:34That's the game. I'm going to be on.
- 48:37So that's like, I don't know. It's one of these things and,
- 48:42you know, you know, if you mention the SEC and that just
- 48:46broke this afternoon, as we were like getting everything
- 48:49together, it's gonna be interesting to see that 10 team
- 48:52schedule to which I'm sure when they were released who's playing
- 48:55who. Probably next few days, we'll
- 48:57probably get it on the next. Podcast.
- 48:59But Brian we're like, hey cross our fingers reason.
- 49:04I don't care if there's anything as you're not, please, let us
- 49:06Outta season. There are some matchups that I
- 49:08want to see. Oh yeah, oh yeah, big time some
- 49:12not including us. It's going to be some really
- 49:15good matchups and I think I know we'll talk about it some more
- 49:20here. When we talk about our ideal,
- 49:23look at how these games are going to be arranged on the
- 49:26schedule. But you know, I'm, I'm looking
- 49:29at this and I wouldn't have a problem going to a 9, or a 10
- 49:35game conference schedule, going forward, Alma, and just getting
- 49:40rid of the divisions and trying to balance the schedule as best
- 49:44you can every year so that no one's getting completely diction
- 49:48and like, Syracuse and UVA. I mean, I'd be down for that
- 49:55just because you know, some of these guys, I mean, as much as,
- 49:59you know, having a couple games with The lower ticket.
- 50:02Price is nice. Yes.
- 50:05Getting into Tech, especially the September Games, getting
- 50:09into the lane. And, you know, crushing an
- 50:11opponent, I would much rather add maybe one high-profile
- 50:15opponent a year. And maybe one more like Wake
- 50:17Forest, I'll opponent. That's, you know, across the
- 50:22divisions that we've been playing traditionally and this
- 50:25have added a new 10 because you know, that's, that's to me,
- 50:29that's much more compelling than any of those non conference.
- 50:31Games and especially for able to work in something with you know
- 50:36we're talking about these additional additional weeks in
- 50:40the schedule. I don't know if that's something
- 50:41that might not be a long-term stable as well.
- 50:45Having maybe an additional week here, or they're having to open
- 50:49weeks for most teams. That would confirm.
- 50:52That might be something that comes out of it is pushing All
- 50:55Conference Championship games back on week.
- 50:58That one's surprise. We're basically saying
- 50:59Thanksgiving the no longer going to be the Thanksgiving to no
- 51:04longer going to be the big game of the last game of the season.
- 51:09Before conference championships, you can work out the more the
- 51:11Navy Army game at some point in time, but if you say, we could
- 51:17get Notre Dame in the next five years and we have to Fifteen
- 51:21teams. I would not be opposed to going
- 51:24to a tentative 10 per game. 1 power 5 game can get one group
- 51:30of five games. Yep, in three.
- 51:32Right. Let's cruise SES team, hold on.
- 51:36Why not say this find that your FCS team?
- 51:40You know, J mu William and Mary? Hey, we want you guys to come up
- 51:45at the end of our camp and scrimmages.
- 51:48And could you put the scrimmages on TV?
- 51:50Yes. Dear Lord.
- 51:51You could put the two images on TV.
- 51:53Now, it might be a little funky because when you do a scrimmage,
- 51:57the thing is, you know, when you scream you, someone it's like
- 52:01listen, we're going to do. Let's do you know what else do
- 52:03just red zones if you guys do to see Well, did you series?
- 52:07Let's do this. Let's do that.
- 52:09It won't. Because the one thing I will say
- 52:12that the Powerpuffs will do in this situation is they will not
- 52:15play a full-on game. It will be very situational but
- 52:21Aztec fans if you're saying, hey, we're going to give J mu
- 52:24for $1000 to come up and Instagram it with us.
- 52:27Hell, yeah. Stroke it.
- 52:29We can get situation against real people that we want to hit
- 52:32versus. Hey, don't take out some of the
- 52:35Those leg Jesus Christ. You got best, you know?
- 52:38Linebacker. But guess what?
- 52:40Yeah. Well you can get some more
- 52:43dollars in the bank. There is it's essentially like
- 52:45having a better Extra Spring Game.
- 52:49Yeah, well the that game when you put it on the season tickets
- 52:53just do the general admission up front and just basically say
- 52:58you're like, it was like flat 20 or something like that, and
- 53:01that's a flat 30 flat-out, 30, wherever you want them, but you
- 53:05got Get in line. So in staying with the time of
- 53:08the parking lots, this is a week where parking lots are open 24.
- 53:13Any parking, lots associated with tech starting for tickets.
- 53:17Now how do you make it really interesting?
- 53:19Is you basically say, you know, you probably set aside some
- 53:22student tickets and for them, you say, here's your tickets for
- 53:26this game, go in there and have fun.
- 53:28But I like it because a, it really shows, gets the
- 53:34conference. That whoever the best routine is
- 53:37accomplished, they're going to play in because basically you're
- 53:39going to play, you know, almost 70 percent of it, both teams in
- 53:43the league. And, you know, everybody wants
- 53:48to schedule a good out of comments, opponent.
- 53:50And you want that group of five because it's essentially the
- 53:53build-up. So I'm good.
- 53:54And, and with 15, I don't think that with playing a 10 game
- 53:58schedule. No, you're not learning any more
- 54:00or less than you were learning. We don't divisional set up
- 54:03either. So it's not like saying, Oh well
- 54:06the the two best teams in this 10 game format with no, no
- 54:10divisions. I'd say nine times out of ten.
- 54:13You didn't up with the same two teams and in some cases that it
- 54:20end up, you know, the conference and had the to better teams
- 54:22doesn't get screwed. So I think there's benefits and
- 54:25in that case, where one comment, One Division had to legit teams.
- 54:31You don't end up screwing one team.
- 54:33Versus the other. So you really have a more true I
- 54:38think representation of how good the conferences.
- 54:41And I think that's something that would be good to see.
- 54:44Because let's be honest, I mean, as good of a run as you VA had
- 54:50last year, they weren't the second best team in the
- 54:53conference last year. They were not the second.
- 54:55I don't think that told us anything about how good or bad
- 54:58Clemson was or how good or bad you VA was yep.
- 55:01Because you ba Probably wasn't the second best team in the
- 55:05conference. They might not even be the third
- 55:06best team in the conference. For mean, you go back to the mid
- 55:092000, I moved to mid 2000 teams and when it was at this unit
- 55:13comes in, were the two best in the conference.
- 55:16But then you go back to the early parts of it.
- 55:18Where, you know, it was for a couple of years.
- 55:22It was, you know, BP 90 for like, what 06 in like, 04 with
- 55:29the best know before we got lucky because that last game of
- 55:31the year was a Given the fact accomplished championship game,
- 55:36but it's like there's been times like that.
- 55:38And what you do by going to this format is One day the Big 12 got
- 55:43right? When that with the about teams
- 55:45they have is, we're going to play the best teams are going to
- 55:47play and they're going to probably play with Once in the
- 55:49regular season. And you're going to see two good
- 55:52games. Like in fact case in point
- 55:54couple years ago, Texas with bicker to kicker hits it
- 55:5848-yarder dumb at the at the Red River.
- 56:01Shootout, beats Tech, Texas, beat Oklahoma, Good occasion of
- 56:06a note home. Pay them back in a really good
- 56:08game. You're going to see that and it
- 56:10doesn't hurt your conference. Because if somebody's walking in
- 56:12there with one both teams walk in there, one laws, I beat them.
- 56:16Hey, they redeem you, they beat every team on their schedule and
- 56:19so we really tough not to put that team to play off.
- 56:21To say, I played 13 games. I want all.
- 56:25But one I played 12 teams. I beat all quill teams.
- 56:28Yes, maybe, maybe not. Maybe it's a pipe dream.
- 56:31Maybe it's something we create later on.
- 56:34All right, Brian mentioned it. Got to do it because we know who
- 56:37were playing, let's say it. We need to create the perfect
- 56:41schedule for this year. So I'm going to be straight up
- 56:46me and Brian talked on the phone for like 40 minutes putting this
- 56:49together early. It's because if we were trying
- 56:54to spit while this thing on the flower like the pad, I think
- 56:58we're about at 48 minutes right now.
- 57:00The pad would have went like an hour and 56 minutes and I'll be
- 57:03like, what the hell is wrong with y'all?
- 57:05So Brian kick us off. These four are scheming
- 57:09September. 12th Lane Stadium. Boston College, Eagles will be
- 57:15visiting Lane stadium and no issue with this same.
- 57:19As last year, we could have beat them Dan year on Willis,
- 57:22ignoring all those pics. No issue with this.
- 57:27Good right out the gate. Now, the next two are kind of
- 57:30interesting. We mean we're talking about it.
- 57:33Yep, we're setting up back-to-back Road getting guys.
- 57:36The first one. Let's go down to Juke.
- 57:40Let's avenge that loss. It's avenge.
- 57:42That loss. Let's go ahead and say, hey That
- 57:45was a fluke. We didn't have our starting
- 57:47quarterback. The one we did.
- 57:51Start was playing injured eye knowing to most of everyone else
- 57:55in the world at the time. Yeah, and we just weren't firing
- 58:00on all cylinders. So let's go down there.
- 58:02Avenge that that'll be weak to, and let's set it up, and that's
- 58:05going to set up a big week. 3 matchup at Chapel Hill against
- 58:11the University of North Carolina, Tar Heels.
- 58:14Damn right. Let's get No 81, let's drive
- 58:16down then let's get on to 20 all the way down.
- 58:22Go over 2940, let's get in Chapel Hill.
- 58:24Let's get them back now Braun, we have another home game.
- 58:31Yep, in this one, I think we've kind of set this up.
- 58:35This would be ideal for Tech NC State you mentioned already.
- 58:40The kind of on the meddling side to me Dave doing seat is on That
- 58:45fire, he doesn't win 8 games this year.
- 58:48Maybe now it's 7 p.m. to 7 and 3 he's going to get fired.
- 58:54Yeah I think if I think he's at least got to get to 7 and I
- 58:57don't think he gets there. I think they're going to be
- 59:01probably a little improved relative to last year but I
- 59:04don't think that they're gonna 70 worlds on fire.
- 59:07I've got them, probably four and six, five and five, maybe, you
- 59:12know, just depending on what they end up putting together.
- 59:15But, you know, we're doing a little tour of the triangle
- 59:19there so that completes our tour of the triangle.
- 59:22I know the last one was a home game but we took care of all the
- 59:25triangle teams there so we got Duke UNC and NC State out of the
- 59:29out, the out of the way there. And that gives us our first open
- 59:33date. Take a break.
- 59:36Let's breathe. We've invented a couple bad
- 59:38losses. Last year, we made all the
- 59:41recruits wonder. Why UNC?
- 59:44Why are we committing to you? And see when we go smack them.
- 59:47We put the nail and orange coffin. get an open wheat, time
- 59:52to reflect sort of batteries that cleared batteries, but it's
- 59:57time to reflect because the way me and you feel reflect, we had
- 1:00:02some good wins, we avenge them things, but when we look up at
- 1:00:07Lane Stadium, there's some orange and purple, wallpaper do
- 1:00:13Gates. So this week, early October,
- 1:00:18some of the best games at Lane stadium that they ever been has
- 1:00:21been in early October and it would be a night game.
- 1:00:23It would be 8:00. Clemson, Tigers buddy, Clemson,
- 1:00:29Tigers, they can come to Lane and I think, I think we got
- 1:00:36something for him. I'm not.
- 1:00:37No, that's gonna be the hardest game in playoff season,
- 1:00:40obviously. And they are a team that I'd
- 1:00:44say, if we play them make times, we lose at least six or seven of
- 1:00:48them but at home after a bye. Yeah, I think we might have a
- 1:00:53little something for them. So I think that if we're going
- 1:00:57to knit it we're going to make them out there.
- 1:00:58I think that's the time that we would be able to do it.
- 1:01:00Yeah I think we've got the puncher's chance.
- 1:01:02I think we've got enough weapons on offense.
- 1:01:05I think are open to blond. He's good enough to hold up,
- 1:01:08even this early in the season, we bought at the depth.
- 1:01:12I mean, We put them here for a reason.
- 1:01:15We put them here because you've got to put them somewhere and
- 1:01:20you don't want it to be so late. Where if they have injuries they
- 1:01:24figured it out. You hope it's early enough in
- 1:01:26the process now Braun, we got to take a trip back down in North
- 1:01:29Carolina next week though, because, you know, after being
- 1:01:33home weeks, we got to get some of these away games way.
- 1:01:36So, let's, let's drive down to Winston-Salem.
- 1:01:41Yeah, we're gonna take on the Lake Forest.
- 1:01:42Demon Deacons. They are, you know, quick trip
- 1:01:45for us. I'd like I said, I think based
- 1:01:48on where they are in the process, that's not a game
- 1:01:53that's going to be should be a struggle for us.
- 1:01:56I think their defense will maybe keep it close but I don't think
- 1:02:00that we should have a problem pulling the way late.
- 1:02:02Nah and that sets up another big one, the following week who we
- 1:02:07got, Curtis got the following to get ready for an absolute
- 1:02:11slugfest. The atmosphere will be the Same
- 1:02:15in the TSA will, I don't think it'll be on a Friday night, but
- 1:02:18let's go up to pit. There's going to play with empty
- 1:02:22hands feel, right? And we're still playing to in
- 1:02:24it. There is no real difference, you
- 1:02:26know, unless they allow fans in and then, you know, Hokie
- 1:02:30Nation, get your, get your, get your cars ready.
- 1:02:34Let's go up there and let's turn that place, you know, 15%
- 1:02:38maroon. But again, the way we again,
- 1:02:43with the way we're set, Stuff is you have wake?
- 1:02:45That's still going to be a fight of a game down at wake because I
- 1:02:48think their defense is going to be good this year but I think
- 1:02:51what you said will pull away late, it's going to be the old
- 1:02:54early 2000s. Virginia Tech when we had just
- 1:02:58unbelievable defenses and game offense.
- 1:03:00Couldn't punch anything to a point I run.
- 1:03:06So, we went up to fit. We've dealt with the normal
- 1:03:09Heinz Field atmosphere. We made Nordic, we can Maidan
- 1:03:13are doozy, throw things. Yeah, because we can you pick,
- 1:03:19it isn't a good quarterback. Our offensive line held up.
- 1:03:23Good against that good defensive front of theirs and it
- 1:03:26frustrated them all game. But we get somebody back at Lane
- 1:03:30in. We get to see sort of a new age
- 1:03:33of this team. Yep, the Miami Hurricanes will
- 1:03:36travel our way and we'll see what their new quarterback can
- 1:03:40do and see if they've got enough offensive line to keep him
- 1:03:43upright. Offensive line to keep them
- 1:03:46upright. See losing a lot of those pass
- 1:03:49rushers last year. They still have that stud.
- 1:03:52Yep. But it's a lot easier if you
- 1:03:55know late he's a guy. We're just gonna run would be
- 1:04:00the call if you're sitting there and there he is over there will
- 1:04:04be the call you dear. I mean we can ship them all day
- 1:04:07so you know tight ends going to chip him running backs.
- 1:04:11Going to chip him coming out, you know will We'll definitely
- 1:04:14fan that way. So I think the you'll see the
- 1:04:17cut the, the protections get fan that direction every time
- 1:04:21anything to keep him from getting up field and in the
- 1:04:25backfield in a hurry. So I think you're always going
- 1:04:29to see, you know, your see upset elbow from the siding off the
- 1:04:33line just to slow them down a little bit.
- 1:04:35There's there's going to be something here, there's not
- 1:04:37going to just be a lot of free roam one-on-one situations for
- 1:04:43our Are so think big dog, Chris and either lucre or Silas are
- 1:04:51going to get to have a little help depending on who's taking
- 1:04:53care of him. Absolutely absolutely.
- 1:04:57So after without a doubt the brutal it stretch of our
- 1:05:02schedule you know we had to be realistic you couldn't make it
- 1:05:06completely nearby car but he can't make completely crazy.
- 1:05:10Third flight cake than this because you Gotta try to make it
- 1:05:14perfect kids. Can we get a nice tie?
- 1:05:17It's going to be early November my style.
- 1:05:21We went through some Wars. That's pretty.
- 1:05:25And let's go over a couple scrapes.
- 1:05:30Let's go to Kentucky, let's go to Louisville.
- 1:05:33They've got man, athletic quarterback, some good wide
- 1:05:38receivers. But that defense it ain't that
- 1:05:42good. Nope, the offensive line whilst
- 1:05:45as you call it they've lost bookends won a damn first round
- 1:05:48Talent. So let's go down the Louisville
- 1:05:53with this big baby game mid-november was big November
- 1:05:57game Cooper playing this sort of, you know, best two teams
- 1:06:01make it. This could potentially be one of
- 1:06:03those games where it's a make-or-break light.
- 1:06:04All right VT. Go down there.
- 1:06:07You win, put yourself in the driver's seat, you lose you
- 1:06:11lose. Yeah.
- 1:06:11At this point, we'll know whether or not we have a shot at
- 1:06:16playing for the ACC Championship game.
- 1:06:18I feel like because you're down to your last two conference
- 1:06:20games, one of them's against your rival UVA.
- 1:06:23So you've got one last Road game to go and handle your business.
- 1:06:27It's at Louisville, they are an up-and-coming team in the
- 1:06:31conference. So it's not they'll probably be
- 1:06:34playing for something as well. So I feel like it's I'm going to
- 1:06:37be a really big contest there and, you know, hopefully we can
- 1:06:41take advantage of some of their, I think we're the more balanced
- 1:06:44team. So if we can score enough
- 1:06:46points, I think we'll be all right.
- 1:06:48Yeah. We went on the more balanced
- 1:06:49team there. So, you know, for think again,
- 1:06:52they've got the athletic quarterback but maybe having
- 1:06:57your defensive line scheme, he'll be late.
- 1:06:58So they'll probably know what we're doing, but maybe we don't
- 1:07:01get burned. Like we used to by running
- 1:07:05quarterbacks. So Brian, let's get some
- 1:07:11Revenge. You want some Revenge a I want
- 1:07:16some Revenge. So you know last year Eva had a
- 1:07:21bye week. Then they played Liberty and
- 1:07:27then they played us. So, you know, that we before we
- 1:07:32play them on Thanksgiving weekend.
- 1:07:35But let's play Liberty or J mu or go to you or someone of that
- 1:07:39ilk. Yeah, you think I'm good with
- 1:07:43that. I'm going with that.
- 1:07:44I think that will set us up nicely for UVA coming to Lane
- 1:07:49Stadium the next week. So you know, if that Point.
- 1:07:53We potentially could be controlling our own fate as to
- 1:07:56whether we play for the ACC championship game.
- 1:07:59At the very least, we control our own fate, as whether we get
- 1:08:03the cup back. So I think having a man out of
- 1:08:07conference game, especially against a team like a liberty or
- 1:08:10JMU or no, do you think that'd be a good tune-up especially
- 1:08:14coming off a big road game, regardless win or lose against
- 1:08:17Louisville? I think they'll be something
- 1:08:19there to kind of cleanse the palate before you have the
- 1:08:22Cavaliers. The lane.
- 1:08:24All right, so we already said it, normal, Thanksgiving Day,
- 1:08:28Thanksgiving weekend, matchup you VA Virginia Tech.
- 1:08:32Last game of the year for us. This was easy one.
- 1:08:35As soon as we started this, we just said you have to put that
- 1:08:37game there. You try to keep that game.
- 1:08:41You know, you're probably going to see the Carolina schools do
- 1:08:43it. My assumption would be since
- 1:08:46Clemson. Not going pal Carolina, they'll
- 1:08:48probably hook up with Georgia Tech.
- 1:08:50FSU, Miami should be that weekend Syracuse.
- 1:08:53Boston College and we will pit let Notre Dame play their out of
- 1:09:00conference that weekend. Let them hopefully my hope with
- 1:09:03all the teams they play. Let Notre Dame, convinced Navy,
- 1:09:08Thanksgiving weekend, come up to South Bend and let's keep this
- 1:09:13tradition going. That'd be a good one.
- 1:09:16All right, the brawn. That's a perfect game guys.
- 1:09:19The bottle or earlier today. I asked you, I will ask Right
- 1:09:23now, put a number on it, the 10 ACC games how many Virginia Tech
- 1:09:27winning. I mean, I know that a lot of
- 1:09:30parts are still moving. We saw Caleb opt-out, we're
- 1:09:32probably gonna see more players opt out.
- 1:09:34Yeah. Well, what's the, what's the
- 1:09:36lowest common denominator? You see in terms of us winning,
- 1:09:40seven is the minimum amount of games were going to win this
- 1:09:43year. Okay, I can see if she'll say I
- 1:09:46was saying I was saying seven is probably what I would if you had
- 1:09:49me put a number on us, say we'd at least get seven.
- 1:09:52Yeah. If thing Things go wrong or we
- 1:09:54have the wrong combination of players opt-out and other teams,
- 1:09:57don't maybe six. Yeah, as high as eight maybe
- 1:10:01nine but I think 7 is a good number that to put on it.
- 1:10:06Would you like Stuart Mendel say four and six what a dumbass
- 1:10:13that's all because a you read the right up, it makes no sense.
- 1:10:16I do you know how many Playmakers retirement in Brian
- 1:10:20you're sitting there while I saying, And in hookers
- 1:10:22returning, Trey Turner is returning.
- 1:10:25Tavian ROM is a returning days, Mitchell's returning, we just
- 1:10:30got Herbert from Kansas who has been known to go off and
- 1:10:34potentially we could have Blackshear coming in like a
- 1:10:38couple other transfers that we've got coming in that the
- 1:10:41participant can touch the ball as well.
- 1:10:42So I just don't understand the, I mean if you just look at okay,
- 1:10:48well If you look at just okay, we got hitting a hooker and Trey
- 1:10:52Turner. I feel like that's all he saw
- 1:10:54was gonna do Kier Trey, Turner and didn't look at anybody else
- 1:10:57that contributed to last year's offense, but that's all they
- 1:11:00have coming back. That's the only play makers.
- 1:11:02They have done that like provided there was no depth to
- 1:11:07the analysis and then you look at the UVA assessment which was
- 1:11:13like they lost their entire offense.
- 1:11:16Pretty much at wide receiver and quarterback.
- 1:11:20Six and four. What is shows me is as a
- 1:11:23national writer, he did very little research in that in that
- 1:11:27he works for the athletic who you would think I'm hoping,
- 1:11:30whoever his bosses land bases ass.
- 1:11:33But also he's the guy who in 2016 said we go five and seven.
- 1:11:37So I like when Stewart wrong because the future is wrong.
- 1:11:41Usually good things happen for Virginia Tech doesn't really
- 1:11:44have a boss. He's the Editor in Chief for
- 1:11:47their college football coverage. So, which is kind of mean in
- 1:11:54terms of college football coverage.
- 1:11:56So it's kind of interesting that, you know, he didn't dive a
- 1:11:59little bit deeper on that or, you know, maybe he just has
- 1:12:02something against Virginia Tech, which is, you know, it is what
- 1:12:06it is. But yeah, again, I would have a
- 1:12:09problem if he said five wins, six, wins baby, like, okay,
- 1:12:14well, if it's lower than I'd pick but without knowing a,
- 1:12:17whole lot of information, if you threw a It's out there and be
- 1:12:20like, okay, okay I'll accept it, I don't like it but I'll accept
- 1:12:24it. But throwing for out there, I
- 1:12:26mean for it, that's pretty much saying any game that we would be
- 1:12:29picked to either win or lose by less than seven points.
- 1:12:34We're going to lose all of them. Well he's all on man that's
- 1:12:37exactly what he said but let's not worry about him.
- 1:12:39Let's move on what you said it earlier and we're going to
- 1:12:42mention it again real quick. They see SEC announced this
- 1:12:45afternoon game conference on the schedule that essentially 86 has
- 1:12:50For state, Florida, South Carolina, Clemson, I think,
- 1:12:57opacity Georgia Tech Georgia and the battle for the Bluegrass
- 1:13:01State. Louisville Kentucky will touch
- 1:13:05on this probably next week because hopefully they will
- 1:13:08release at least the opponent if not, the full schedule because
- 1:13:13buddy is going to be like, we talked about some of the games
- 1:13:16with the acc's to be the same with the SEC.
- 1:13:18It's probably the same with the Pact. 12 is going to probably be
- 1:13:21the same with the Big Ten, which US is college football games,
- 1:13:25which we are. It makes us kind of happy like
- 1:13:28yeah, yeah. Well you did see some games.
- 1:13:30We may be normally don't see by multiple games.
- 1:13:34We normally don't see. I mean we're used to do
- 1:13:36traditional cross robberies that.
- 1:13:38Yeah, Alabama's play every year and things like that, but now
- 1:13:41you might see, okay, well they're gonna have to play, they
- 1:13:45will Georgia and Florida to, or Georgia, and Tennessee or I mean
- 1:13:49almost a really intriguing matchups ma'am.
- 1:13:51Alabama's constant crossover is Tennessee.
- 1:13:54Yeah, they are playing Georgia this year.
- 1:13:58So either it's gonna be like the, so the SEC have to be very
- 1:14:01smart about how they do it by. There's that Florida team down
- 1:14:05there to do. We do we just give them that
- 1:14:08same or do we? Yeah, but I'm going to do
- 1:14:11something. It's going to be mesmerizing to
- 1:14:14see that. So, Alton Brown, we have got,
- 1:14:18that is so much. We have given out tonight a lot
- 1:14:21to digest. Yep.
- 1:14:23I mean, um, so the, the engagement question this week,
- 1:14:26Is. Down your core fans.
- 1:14:29Do you like this format? And if you don't, what would you
- 1:14:34have preferred? And the only unacceptable answer
- 1:14:38here. I just want a normal college
- 1:14:39football, team, that's the. You can't get it out because I
- 1:14:42mean, other kinds of are essentially, we can't control
- 1:14:46that anymore. So let's control what we can
- 1:14:49control. What we can control is how our
- 1:14:51conference plays Gates you. So I mean, do you like the
- 1:14:54format? The ten plus one, do you prefer
- 1:14:56just a 10 game conference schedule?
- 1:14:59Would you prefer a pod situation where you play?
- 1:15:03Five teams in your geographic area.
- 1:15:05Twice at the. You know what would you like to
- 1:15:08tell us what you like? Be creative.
- 1:15:11Be creative. I'm good with this format.
- 1:15:15I think it makes the most sense. So I like it I could do with or
- 1:15:21without the plus 1 especially since it's not going to likely
- 1:15:24be another power 5 team. I can take her leave the plus
- 1:15:29one but it's nice to have it in there as a tuneup for a Little
- 1:15:33big game. So I'll leave it in there and
- 1:15:36say I'm happy with it. Yep, absolutely.
- 1:15:39Alright, so that wraps up this episode of The Boundary Corner
- 1:15:43podcast. I'm Curtis Wilson.
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