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Horse Showing Doesn’t Just Feel Expensive — It Is · Two Point Perspective

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  Good
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  evening,
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  everybody.
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  I've
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  listened
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  back
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  to
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  the
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  Yousef
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  listening
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  session
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  a
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  few
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  times
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  now,
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  and
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  honestly,
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  the
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  more
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  I
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  listened
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  to
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  it,
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  the
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  less
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  I
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  kept
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  thinking
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  about
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  one
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  investigation
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  or
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  one
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  decision.
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  What
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  stayed
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  with
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  me
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  was
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  how
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  emotional
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  everybody
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  sounded.
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  Not
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  just
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  frustrated
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  emotional,
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  because
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  underneath
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  all
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  the
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  conversations
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  about
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  governance
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  and
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  horse
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  welfare
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  and
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  social
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  media,
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  and
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  there
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  was
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  also
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  this
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  feeling
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  that
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  people
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  no
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  longer
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  have
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  much
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  control
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  over
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  where
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  the
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  sport
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  is
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  heading.
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  And
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  once
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  you
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  hear
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  that,
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  you
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  can't
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  really
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  unhear
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  it.
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  This
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  is
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  two
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  point
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  perspective.
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  Two
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  riders
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  with
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  different
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  viewpoints
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  from
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  different
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  generations
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  talking
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  about
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  the
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  same
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  sport.
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  So
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  today
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  we
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  wanted
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  to
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  talk
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  less
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  about
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  the
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  actual
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  town
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  hall
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  itself
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  and
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  more
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  about
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  what
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  we
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  think
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  was
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  really
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  happening
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  in
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  that
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  room.
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  Because
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  I
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  don't
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  think
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  people
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  were
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  only
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  reacting
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  to
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  one
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  suspension
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  or
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  one
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  investigation
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  or
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  one
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  biosecurity
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  decision.
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  I
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  think
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  people
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  are
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  reacting
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  to
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  a
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  sport
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  that
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  feels
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  really
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  different
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  than
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  it
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  used
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  to.
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  And
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  I
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  think
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  a
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  lot
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  of
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  people
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  are
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  trying
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  to
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  figure
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  out
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  whether
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  they
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  still
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  recognize
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  themselves
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  in
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  it.
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  Well,
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  I
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  think
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  you're
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  right,
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  because
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  whether
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  people
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  realize
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  it
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  or
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  not,
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  it
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  feels
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  different
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  than
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  it
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  used
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  to.
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  And
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  I
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  think
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  people
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  are
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  kind
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  of,
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  like
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  you
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  said,
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  afraid
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  of
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  losing
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  something
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  that
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  they
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  love
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  and
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  sort
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  of
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  what
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  the
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  future
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  looks
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  like.
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  It's
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  starting
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  to
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  feel.
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  You
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  know,
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  I
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  was
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  talking
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  to
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  a
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  friend
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  about
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  this
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  the
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  other
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  day
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  and
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  I
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  remember
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  like
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  growing
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  up,
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  people
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  would
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  make
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  the
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  comments
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  like,
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  oh,
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  writing
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  is
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  for
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  the
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  elite.
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  And
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  I
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  don't
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  necessarily
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  agree
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  with
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  that
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  sentiment.
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  I
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  don't
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  think
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  you
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  have
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  to
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  be
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  elite
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  to
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  participate
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  in
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  horses
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  in
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  any.
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  You
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  know,
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  there's
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  a
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  lot
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  of
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  different
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  ways.
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  However,
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  for
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  the
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  sake
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  of
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  the
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  language,
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  it's
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  like
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  it's
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  no
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  longer
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  for
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  just
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  the
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  elite,
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  it's
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  for
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  the
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  top
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  1%.
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  It's
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  how
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  it's
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  starting
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  to
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  feel,
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  especially
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  in
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  an
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  economy
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  that
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  doesn't
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  seem
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  to
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  be
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  doing
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  anybody
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  any
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  favors.
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  And
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  it's
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  like
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  a
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  matter
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  of
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  am
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  I
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  still
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  going
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  to
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  be
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  able
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  to
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  compete
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  at
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  the
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  level
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  I'm
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  used
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  to
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  competing
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  with
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  a
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  horse
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  that
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  I
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  can
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  do
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  so
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  on,
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  or
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  am
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  I
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  going
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  to
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  be
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  priced
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  out?
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  And
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  so
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  it's
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  just
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  the
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  people
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  that
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  can
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  just
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  shovel
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  the
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  Money,
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  the
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  top
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  1%
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  of
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  people
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  competing
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  against
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  themselves.
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  And
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  I
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  think
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  that
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  that
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  scares
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  people.
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  I
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  think
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  it
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  makes
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  them
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  nervous
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  about
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  what
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  their
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  role
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  and
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  participation
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  is
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  going
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  to
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  be
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  in
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  the
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  next
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  five
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  years.
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  Even
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  I
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  would
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  agree.
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  And
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  I
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  also
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  want
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  to
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  be
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  really
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  careful
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  because
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  this
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  isn't
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  one
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  of
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  those
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  everything
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  used
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  to
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  be
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  better
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  conversations.
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  That's
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  not
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  at
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  all
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  what
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  I
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  mean.
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  But
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  I
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  do
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  agree
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  with
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  you
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  that
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  the
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  structure
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  around
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  this
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  board
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  has
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  changed
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  dramatically.
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  But
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  I
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  think,
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  I
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  think
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  it's
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  happened
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  slowly
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  enough
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  that
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  people
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  just
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  kind
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  of
• 2:48
  went
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  along
• 2:49
  with
• 2:49
  it
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  and
• 2:49
  didn't
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  really
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  recognize
• 2:51
  it.
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  And
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  suddenly
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  now
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  they're
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  going,
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  eek.
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  You
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  know,
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  put
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  on
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  the
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  brakes.
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  Right.
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  It's
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  like,
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  it's,
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  it's
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  like
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  cresting
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  a.
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  Yeah,
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  yeah.
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  I
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  mean,
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  we
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  used
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  to
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  have
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  more
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  local
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  horse
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  shows
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  that
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  don't
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  happen
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  anymore.
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  We
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  didn't
• 3:04
  have
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  as
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  many
• 3:05
  divisions.
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  There
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  were
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  never.
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  You
• 3:08
  couldn't
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  have
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  had
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  that
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  many
• 3:09
  divisions
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  because
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  you
• 3:10
  couldn't
• 3:11
  have.
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  You
• 3:11
  only
• 3:11
  had
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  potentially
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  an
• 3:13
  outside
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  course
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  and
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  one
• 3:15
  ring.
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  Now
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  all
• 3:17
  of
• 3:17
  a
• 3:17
  sudden
• 3:17
  these
• 3:17
  venues
• 3:18
  have
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  five
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  rings
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  or
• 3:20
  more.
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  Right.
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  Well,
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  and
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  the
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  way
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  that
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  I.
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  And
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  I
• 3:26
  mean,
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  I
• 3:26
  guess
• 3:26
  you
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  could
• 3:27
  still
• 3:27
  do
• 3:27
  it
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  this
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  way.
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  I'm
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  not
• 3:28
  saying
• 3:28
  that
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  you
• 3:28
  can't,
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  but
• 3:29
  I
• 3:29
  think
• 3:29
  about
• 3:29
  when
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  I
• 3:30
  was
• 3:30
  growing
• 3:30
  up,
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  I
• 3:31
  would
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  do
• 3:32
  the
• 3:32
  local
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  circuit
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  and
• 3:33
  then
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  I
• 3:34
  would
• 3:34
  like
• 3:34
  hit
• 3:34
  some
• 3:35
  rated
• 3:35
  shows,
• 3:35
  like.
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  Right.
• 3:36
  So
• 3:36
  the
• 3:36
  local
• 3:37
  shows,
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  like,
• 3:38
  helped
• 3:38
  you
• 3:38
  stay
• 3:39
  in
• 3:39
  practice
• 3:39
  and
• 3:39
  all
• 3:40
  that
• 3:40
  kind
• 3:40
  of
• 3:40
  thing.
• 3:41
  I
• 3:41
  think
• 3:41
  that
• 3:41
  there
• 3:41
  are
• 3:41
  some
• 3:41
  local
• 3:42
  circuits
• 3:42
  that
• 3:42
  are
• 3:42
  like
• 3:43
  thriving,
• 3:44
  but
• 3:44
  I
• 3:44
  don't
• 3:44
  think
• 3:45
  that
• 3:45
  there
• 3:45
  are
• 3:45
  as
• 3:45
  many
• 3:46
  as
• 3:46
  there
• 3:46
  used
• 3:46
  to
• 3:46
  be.
• 3:47
  And
• 3:49
  so
• 3:49
  I
• 3:49
  think
• 3:49
  that
• 3:49
  that
• 3:49
  kind
• 3:50
  of
• 3:51
  puts
• 3:51
  people
• 3:52
  in
• 3:52
  a
• 3:52
  little
• 3:52
  bit
• 3:52
  of
• 3:52
  a
• 3:52
  bind.
• 3:53
  Like,
• 3:53
  okay,
• 3:53
  well,
• 3:53
  what
• 3:53
  if
• 3:54
  I
• 3:54
  go
• 3:54
  back
• 3:54
  to
• 3:55
  showing
• 3:55
  more
• 3:55
  local
• 3:56
  shows,
• 3:56
  staying
• 3:57
  in
• 3:57
  rhythm,
• 3:57
  and
• 3:58
  then
• 3:58
  I'm
• 3:58
  gonna
• 3:58
  pick
• 3:58
  and
• 3:59
  choose,
• 3:59
  you
• 4:00
  know,
• 4:00
  the
• 4:00
  rated
• 4:00
  shows
• 4:01
  I
• 4:01
  get
• 4:01
  to
• 4:01
  go
• 4:01
  to
• 4:01
  this
• 4:01
  year
• 4:01
  cause
• 4:02
  of
• 4:02
  cost.
• 4:03
  And
• 4:03
  then
• 4:03
  they're
• 4:03
  very
• 4:04
  limited
• 4:04
  on
• 4:05
  the
• 4:05
  local
• 4:05
  shows
• 4:06
  in
• 4:06
  their
• 4:06
  area.
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  And
• 4:08
  where,
• 4:08
  where
• 4:09
  can
• 4:09
  they
• 4:09
  go?
• 4:09
  Where,
• 4:10
  where
• 4:10
  are,
• 4:11
  you
• 4:11
  know,
• 4:12
  it's
• 4:12
  going
• 4:12
  to
• 4:12
  feel
• 4:13
  still
• 4:13
  elevated.
• 4:14
  Well,
• 4:14
  let
• 4:15
  me
• 4:15
  pose
• 4:15
  a
• 4:15
  different
• 4:16
  scenario.
• 4:17
  There
• 4:17
  are
• 4:17
  local
• 4:18
  shows
• 4:18
  that
• 4:19
  still
• 4:19
  happen,
• 4:20
  but
• 4:21
  a
• 4:21
  lot
• 4:21
  of
• 4:21
  trainers
• 4:22
  don't
• 4:22
  believe
• 4:23
  that
• 4:23
  it
• 4:23
  is
• 4:24
  cost
• 4:24
  effective
• 4:24
  for
• 4:25
  them
• 4:25
  to
• 4:25
  attend
• 4:26
  the
• 4:26
  local
• 4:26
  shows.
• 4:27
  Because
• 4:28
  at
• 4:28
  a
• 4:29
  rated
• 4:29
  show
• 4:30
  where
• 4:30
  they're
• 4:30
  there
• 4:31
  for
• 4:32
  five
• 4:33
  days,
• 4:34
  they
• 4:34
  put
• 4:34
  their
• 4:35
  whole
• 4:35
  setup
• 4:35
  together,
• 4:36
  have
• 4:37
  grooms
• 4:37
  in
• 4:38
  place,
• 4:38
  all
• 4:38
  their
• 4:39
  systems
• 4:39
  in
• 4:39
  place.
• 4:40
  And
• 4:40
  that
• 4:40
  makes
• 4:41
  no
• 4:41
  sense
• 4:41
  for
• 4:42
  a
• 4:42
  two
• 4:42
  day
• 4:42
  show.
• 4:43
  It's
• 4:44
  too
• 4:44
  expensive.
• 4:45
  Right,
• 4:45
  I
• 4:45
  see.
• 4:46
  But
• 4:46
  I
• 4:46
  mean,
• 4:46
  at
• 4:46
  the
• 4:47
  same
• 4:47
  time,
• 4:48
  I
• 4:48
  think
• 4:48
  you
• 4:48
  get
• 4:48
  to
• 4:49
  test
• 4:49
  a
• 4:49
  little
• 4:49
  bit.
• 4:50
  Like
• 4:50
  if
• 4:50
  it's
• 4:50
  a
• 4:50
  one
• 4:51
  day
• 4:51
  and
• 4:51
  not
• 4:51
  a
• 4:51
  two
• 4:52
  day,
• 4:52
  like
• 4:52
  it's
• 4:52
  not
• 4:52
  even
• 4:52
  an
• 4:52
  overnight.
• 4:53
  You
• 4:53
  ship
• 4:53
  in,
• 4:53
  you
• 4:54
  ship
• 4:54
  out.
• 4:55
  Can
• 4:55
  you
• 4:56
  test
• 4:56
  to
• 4:56
  see
• 4:56
  what
• 4:56
  your
• 4:56
  horse
• 4:57
  can
• 4:57
  do?
• 4:57
  Arriving
• 4:58
  on
• 4:58
  property
• 4:59
  and
• 4:59
  showing
• 4:59
  off
• 4:59
  of
• 4:59
  a
• 5:00
  trailer?
• 5:01
  Effectively,
• 5:02
  there
• 5:02
  is
• 5:02
  something
• 5:03
  to
• 5:03
  be
• 5:03
  said
• 5:04
  about
• 5:04
  that.
• 5:05
  Not
• 5:05
  to
• 5:05
  say
• 5:05
  that
• 5:05
  you
• 5:05
  should
• 5:05
  come
• 5:06
  unprepared.
• 5:06
  That's
• 5:06
  not
• 5:06
  what
• 5:07
  I
• 5:07
  mean.
• 5:07
  But
• 5:08
  it's
• 5:08
  like,
• 5:09
  oh,
• 5:09
  I
• 5:09
  don't
• 5:09
  know,
• 5:09
  you
• 5:10
  mean
• 5:10
  the
• 5:10
  owners
• 5:10
  have
• 5:10
  to
• 5:11
  arrive
• 5:11
  with
• 5:11
  the
• 5:12
  horse
• 5:12
  and
• 5:13
  get
• 5:13
  them
• 5:13
  Ready
• 5:14
  and
• 5:15
  show
• 5:15
  up
• 5:15
  to
• 5:16
  the
• 5:16
  ring.
• 5:16
  Wow.
• 5:17
  It's
• 5:17
  like.
• 5:17
  Well,
• 5:18
  there's
• 5:18
  a
• 5:18
  lot
• 5:18
  of.
• 5:19
  That's
• 5:19
  how
• 5:19
  that
• 5:20
  works.
• 5:20
  Yeah.
• 5:20
  Because
• 5:20
  some
• 5:21
  trainers
• 5:21
  don't
• 5:21
  do
• 5:22
  their
• 5:22
  own
• 5:22
  shipping
• 5:23
  and
• 5:23
  some
• 5:23
  clients
• 5:24
  don't
• 5:24
  do
• 5:25
  their
• 5:25
  own
• 5:25
  shipping.
• 5:26
  So
• 5:26
  if
• 5:26
  you're
• 5:27
  talking
• 5:27
  about
• 5:28
  a
• 5:28
  commercial
• 5:29
  shipper
• 5:30
  and
• 5:31
  a
• 5:31
  setup,
• 5:32
  it
• 5:32
  just
• 5:32
  doesn't
• 5:33
  make
• 5:33
  any
• 5:33
  sense
• 5:34
  for
• 5:34
  a
• 5:34
  weekend.
• 5:35
  So
• 5:35
  I
• 5:35
  do
• 5:35
  think
• 5:35
  that
• 5:35
  that
• 5:36
  hurts
• 5:37
  a
• 5:37
  lot
• 5:37
  of
• 5:37
  these
• 5:38
  shows
• 5:38
  and
• 5:38
  it
• 5:38
  just
• 5:39
  depends
• 5:39
  on.
• 5:39
  Oh,
• 5:40
  yeah,
• 5:40
  you
• 5:40
  know,
• 5:40
  which
• 5:40
  barn.
• 5:41
  Which
• 5:41
  barn
• 5:42
  business
• 5:42
  model
• 5:43
  you
• 5:44
  are
• 5:44
  after.
• 5:45
  Oh,
• 5:45
  I
• 5:45
  totally
• 5:45
  agree.
• 5:46
  That's
• 5:46
  what
• 5:46
  I
• 5:46
  mean
• 5:46
  by
• 5:47
  when
• 5:47
  you,
• 5:48
  you
• 5:48
  know,
• 5:48
  if
• 5:48
  you
• 5:48
  decided,
• 5:49
  okay,
• 5:49
  I'm
• 5:49
  gonna
• 5:50
  go
• 5:50
  to
• 5:50
  some
• 5:51
  local
• 5:51
  shows
• 5:51
  and
• 5:51
  which
• 5:51
  ones
• 5:52
  can
• 5:52
  I
• 5:52
  find?
• 5:52
  I
• 5:53
  think
• 5:53
  like
• 5:53
  over
• 5:53
  the
• 5:53
  last
• 5:54
  10
• 5:54
  to
• 5:54
  15
• 5:55
  years,
• 5:56
  you've
• 5:56
  seen
• 5:56
  this
• 5:57
  like,
• 5:57
  sort
• 5:57
  of
• 5:58
  decline
• 5:59
  on
• 6:00
  show
• 6:01
  circuits,
• 6:01
  local
• 6:01
  show
• 6:01
  circuits
• 6:02
  being
• 6:02
  able
• 6:03
  to
• 6:03
  stay
• 6:04
  alive
• 6:04
  and
• 6:05
  well.
• 6:06
  So
• 6:06
  it
• 6:06
  used
• 6:06
  to
• 6:06
  be,
• 6:07
  you
• 6:07
  know,
• 6:07
  you
• 6:08
  had
• 6:08
  the
• 6:08
  cream
• 6:08
  of
• 6:08
  the
• 6:08
  crop
• 6:09
  pickings.
• 6:09
  You
• 6:09
  could,
• 6:09
  you
• 6:10
  could
• 6:10
  go
• 6:10
  anywhere
• 6:10
  you
• 6:10
  wanted
• 6:11
  on
• 6:11
  any
• 6:11
  given
• 6:11
  weekend.
• 6:12
  There
• 6:12
  was
• 6:12
  plenty,
• 6:13
  plenty
• 6:13
  to
• 6:13
  go
• 6:14
  around.
• 6:14
  And
• 6:15
  now
• 6:15
  it,
• 6:15
  there
• 6:16
  are
• 6:16
  very,
• 6:16
  very
• 6:17
  few
• 6:17
  in
• 6:17
  terms
• 6:18
  that
• 6:18
  are
• 6:18
  like
• 6:18
  thriving
• 6:18
  where
• 6:19
  you're
• 6:19
  going
• 6:19
  to
• 6:19
  go
• 6:19
  and
• 6:20
  not
• 6:20
  compete
• 6:20
  against,
• 6:21
  you
• 6:21
  know,
• 6:22
  just
• 6:22
  three
• 6:22
  other
• 6:22
  people
• 6:23
  and
• 6:23
  have
• 6:24
  some
• 6:24
  real
• 6:24
  competition.
• 6:25
  And
• 6:25
  I
• 6:26
  do
• 6:26
  think
• 6:26
  that
• 6:26
  there
• 6:26
  are.
• 6:27
  Those
• 6:28
  circuits
• 6:28
  do
• 6:28
  exist.
• 6:29
  Like,
• 6:29
  I'm
• 6:29
  not
• 6:29
  saying
• 6:29
  that
• 6:30
  they
• 6:30
  don't,
• 6:30
  but
• 6:30
  I
• 6:31
  think
• 6:31
  that
• 6:31
  they're
• 6:32
  much
• 6:33
  like,
• 6:33
  they're
• 6:34
  fewer
• 6:34
  than
• 6:34
  they're
• 6:35
  used
• 6:35
  to
• 6:35
  be,
• 6:35
  is
• 6:36
  my
• 6:36
  point.
• 6:36
  Well,
• 6:37
  that's
• 6:37
  true
• 6:38
  because
• 6:38
  of
• 6:38
  the
• 6:38
  very.
• 6:38
  Reason
• 6:39
  that
• 6:39
  you're
• 6:39
  talking
• 6:39
  about.
• 6:40
  But
• 6:40
  when
• 6:40
  you
• 6:41
  listen
• 6:41
  to
• 6:41
  the
• 6:42
  USF
• 6:42
  town
• 6:43
  hall
• 6:43
  last
• 6:43
  week
• 6:44
  and
• 6:44
  people
• 6:44
  were
• 6:44
  talking
• 6:45
  about
• 6:45
  the
• 6:45
  expense.
• 6:46
  Yeah.
• 6:46
  And
• 6:46
  somebody
• 6:47
  was
• 6:47
  saying,
• 6:47
  well,
• 6:47
  what
• 6:48
  would
• 6:48
  you
• 6:48
  want
• 6:48
  to
• 6:48
  give
• 6:48
  up?
• 6:49
  And
• 6:50
  one
• 6:50
  of
• 6:50
  the
• 6:50
  things
• 6:51
  I
• 6:51
  think
• 6:51
  that
• 6:51
  the
• 6:52
  a
• 6:52
  show
• 6:53
  or
• 6:53
  top
• 6:54
  tier
• 6:54
  show
• 6:55
  venues
• 6:56
  have
• 6:56
  is
• 6:56
  footing
• 6:57
  that
• 6:58
  everybody's
• 6:58
  concerned
• 6:59
  about.
• 6:59
  And
• 6:59
  I'm
• 6:59
  not
• 7:00
  sure
• 7:00
  that
• 7:00
  all
• 7:00
  the
• 7:00
  local
• 7:01
  shows
• 7:02
  can
• 7:02
  or
• 7:03
  do
• 7:04
  provide
• 7:05
  that.
• 7:05
  And
• 7:06
  so
• 7:06
  I
• 7:06
  guess
• 7:06
  when
• 7:06
  you
• 7:07
  take
• 7:07
  all
• 7:07
  those
• 7:07
  things
• 7:08
  into
• 7:08
  consideration,
• 7:09
  it's
• 7:10
  tough.
• 7:10
  It
• 7:10
  is
• 7:11
  tough.
• 7:11
  Yeah.
• 7:11
  Well,
• 7:11
  and
• 7:12
  then
• 7:12
  you
• 7:12
  have
• 7:12
  to
• 7:12
  have
• 7:12
  the
• 7:13
  people
• 7:13
  that
• 7:13
  are
• 7:13
  hosting
• 7:13
  these
• 7:14
  shows
• 7:14
  have
• 7:14
  to
• 7:14
  have
• 7:14
  the
• 7:15
  incentive
• 7:15
  to
• 7:17
  want
• 7:17
  to
• 7:17
  make
• 7:17
  those
• 7:17
  types
• 7:18
  of
• 7:18
  improvements,
• 7:19
  if
• 7:19
  not
• 7:19
  just
• 7:19
  for
• 7:19
  them,
• 7:20
  but
• 7:20
  to
• 7:20
  be
• 7:20
  able
• 7:20
  to
• 7:20
  host
• 7:20
  the
• 7:21
  shows.
• 7:22
  And
• 7:22
  that
• 7:22
  takes
• 7:22
  a
• 7:23
  lot
• 7:23
  of
• 7:23
  time
• 7:23
  and
• 7:23
  money
• 7:24
  to
• 7:24
  upkeep
• 7:24
  too.
• 7:25
  Not
• 7:25
  just
• 7:25
  to
• 7:25
  put
• 7:25
  it
• 7:25
  in,
• 7:26
  but
• 7:26
  at
• 7:27
  the
• 7:27
  same
• 7:27
  time,
• 7:27
  you
• 7:27
  know,
• 7:28
  I
• 7:29
  would,
• 7:29
  you
• 7:29
  know,
• 7:29
  this
• 7:29
  is
• 7:30
  like
• 7:30
  catching
• 7:30
  both
• 7:31
  sides.
• 7:31
  But
• 7:32
  as
• 7:33
  a
• 7:33
  participant,
• 7:34
  if
• 7:34
  you're
• 7:34
  going
• 7:34
  to
• 7:35
  a
• 7:35
  local
• 7:35
  show,
• 7:35
  and
• 7:36
  I
• 7:36
  know
• 7:36
  that
• 7:37
  people
• 7:37
  do,
• 7:38
  but
• 7:38
  you
• 7:38
  don't
• 7:39
  have
• 7:39
  to
• 7:39
  show
• 7:40
  in
• 7:41
  multiple
• 7:42
  divisions,
• 7:42
  you
• 7:42
  know,
• 7:42
  so
• 7:43
  if
• 7:43
  the
• 7:43
  footing
• 7:43
  isn't.
• 7:44
  And
• 7:44
  don't
• 7:44
  get
• 7:44
  me
• 7:44
  wrong,
• 7:45
  I'm
• 7:45
  a
• 7:45
  huge
• 7:45
  proponent
• 7:46
  of
• 7:46
  good
• 7:46
  footing.
• 7:46
  But
• 7:47
  if
• 7:47
  it's
• 7:47
  good
• 7:47
  enough,
• 7:48
  don't
• 7:49
  show
• 7:49
  in
• 7:50
  four
• 7:50
  divisions.
• 7:51
  Go
• 7:51
  take
• 7:52
  your
• 7:52
  horse.
• 7:53
  I
• 7:53
  think
• 7:53
  it's
• 7:54
  a
• 7:54
  really
• 7:54
  good
• 7:54
  way
• 7:55
  to
• 7:56
  test
• 7:57
  things
• 7:57
  that
• 7:57
  you
• 7:57
  need
• 7:57
  to
• 7:58
  work
• 7:58
  on
• 7:59
  in
• 7:59
  a
• 7:59
  show
• 7:59
  setting
• 8:00
  without
• 8:00
  costing
• 8:01
  you
• 8:01
  $2,000.
• 8:02
  Bare,
• 8:03
  bare
• 8:03
  bones.
• 8:04
  And
• 8:04
  I
• 8:05
  agree,
• 8:05
  because
• 8:05
  currently
• 8:06
  to
• 8:06
  do
• 8:07
  your
• 8:07
  little
• 8:07
  test
• 8:08
  run,
• 8:09
  you
• 8:09
  do
• 8:09
  that
• 8:10
  in
• 8:10
  the
• 8:11
  Ushja
• 8:12
  divisions
• 8:13
  or
• 8:13
  the
• 8:15
  local
• 8:15
  divisions
• 8:16
  at
• 8:16
  the
• 8:16
  a
• 8:17
  show
• 8:17
  earlier
• 8:18
  in
• 8:18
  the
• 8:18
  week.
• 8:19
  So
• 8:19
  then
• 8:20
  you're
• 8:20
  right.
• 8:21
  When
• 8:21
  your
• 8:21
  horse
• 8:21
  leaves
• 8:22
  the
• 8:22
  horse
• 8:22
  show,
• 8:23
  it's
• 8:23
  done
• 8:24
  six
• 8:25
  classes
• 8:25
  minimum
• 8:26
  over
• 8:26
  fences
• 8:27
  and.
• 8:28
  Plus
• 8:28
  warm
• 8:29
  up
• 8:29
  maybe
• 8:30
  and
• 8:30
  all
• 8:30
  that.
• 8:31
  And
• 8:31
  been
• 8:31
  stuck
• 8:31
  in
• 8:31
  a
• 8:31
  stall
• 8:32
  for
• 8:32
  a
• 8:32
  week.
• 8:33
  Exactly.
• 8:34
  And
• 8:34
  that's.
• 8:34
  You
• 8:34
  know
• 8:35
  what
• 8:35
  I
• 8:35
  mean?
• 8:35
  So
• 8:35
  it's
• 8:35
  like,
• 8:36
  unless
• 8:36
  you
• 8:36
  have
• 8:36
  the
• 8:36
  stall
• 8:37
  mattresses,
• 8:38
  no
• 8:38
  matter
• 8:38
  where
• 8:39
  you
• 8:39
  go,
• 8:39
  you
• 8:39
  can
• 8:39
  put
• 8:39
  lots
• 8:39
  of
• 8:40
  footing,
• 8:40
  but
• 8:40
  they're
• 8:40
  still
• 8:40
  sitting,
• 8:42
  standing
• 8:42
  on
• 8:43
  hard
• 8:43
  ground
• 8:44
  and
• 8:45
  not
• 8:45
  able
• 8:45
  to
• 8:46
  move
• 8:47
  freely.
• 8:48
  They've
• 8:48
  got
• 8:48
  effectively
• 8:49
  no
• 8:49
  turnout.
• 8:49
  They're
• 8:50
  in
• 8:50
  a
• 8:50
  stall
• 8:50
  for
• 8:50
  a
• 8:50
  week
• 8:50
  and
• 8:51
  then
• 8:51
  you're
• 8:51
  going
• 8:51
  and
• 8:52
  jumping
• 8:52
  a
• 8:52
  bunch.
• 8:52
  You
• 8:52
  know,
• 8:53
  at
• 8:53
  a
• 8:53
  local
• 8:53
  show,
• 8:53
  they're
• 8:53
  not,
• 8:54
  they're
• 8:54
  not
• 8:54
  standing.
• 8:55
  You
• 8:55
  go,
• 8:56
  you
• 8:56
  do
• 8:56
  your
• 8:56
  classes,
• 8:57
  make
• 8:58
  sure
• 8:58
  you
• 8:58
  take
• 8:58
  care
• 8:58
  of
• 8:58
  them
• 8:59
  the
• 8:59
  same
• 8:59
  way
• 8:59
  that
• 8:59
  you
• 8:59
  would
• 9:00
  at
• 9:00
  a
• 9:00
  normal
• 9:00
  show.
• 9:01
  They
• 9:01
  go
• 9:01
  home,
• 9:01
  they
• 9:02
  go
• 9:02
  out.
• 9:02
  And
• 9:03
  so
• 9:03
  I,
• 9:04
  I'm
• 9:04
  just
• 9:04
  sitting
• 9:04
  here
• 9:04
  thinking
• 9:05
  this
• 9:05
  to
• 9:05
  myself,
• 9:05
  and
• 9:06
  this
• 9:06
  is
• 9:06
  kind
• 9:06
  of
• 9:06
  on
• 9:06
  topic.
• 9:07
  It
• 9:07
  would
• 9:07
  like
• 9:07
  be
• 9:07
  really
• 9:08
  cool
• 9:08
  to
• 9:08
  do
• 9:09
  a
• 9:09
  survey
• 9:09
  on
• 9:09
  injuries
• 9:10
  of
• 9:10
  those
• 9:11
  that
• 9:11
  always
• 9:11
  go
• 9:11
  to
• 9:11
  the,
• 9:12
  the
• 9:12
  rated
• 9:12
  show
• 9:12
  versus
• 9:13
  those
• 9:13
  that
• 9:13
  only
• 9:13
  show
• 9:13
  local.
• 9:14
  Like
• 9:14
  if
• 9:14
  they,
• 9:14
  if
• 9:15
  you
• 9:15
  could
• 9:15
  control
• 9:16
  like
• 9:16
  the,
• 9:17
  the
• 9:17
  environment
• 9:17
  in
• 9:18
  which
• 9:18
  they
• 9:18
  live
• 9:18
  and
• 9:18
  how
• 9:19
  they
• 9:19
  train,
• 9:20
  I'd
• 9:20
  be
• 9:20
  like,
• 9:20
  really
• 9:20
  curious
• 9:21
  to
• 9:21
  know
• 9:21
  because
• 9:21
  I
• 9:22
  don't
• 9:22
  think
• 9:22
  they
• 9:22
  get
• 9:22
  as
• 9:22
  much
• 9:23
  wear.
• 9:23
  I
• 9:23
  don't
• 9:23
  know.
• 9:23
  Absolutely.
• 9:24
  No,
• 9:24
  you're
• 9:25
  not
• 9:25
  wrong.
• 9:25
  I
• 9:25
  mean,
• 9:25
  I
• 9:25
  think
• 9:26
  that
• 9:26
  survey
• 9:26
  has
• 9:26
  been
• 9:27
  done
• 9:27
  somewhat
• 9:27
  for
• 9:28
  athletes
• 9:28
  or
• 9:28
  football
• 9:29
  players
• 9:29
  that
• 9:30
  play
• 9:30
  on
• 9:30
  AstroTurf.
• 9:31
  Yeah.
• 9:31
  And
• 9:31
  they
• 9:32
  began
• 9:32
  to
• 9:32
  realize
• 9:33
  that
• 9:33
  there
• 9:33
  were
• 9:33
  more
• 9:33
  injuries
• 9:34
  on
• 9:34
  AstroTurf
• 9:35
  than
• 9:35
  there
• 9:35
  was
• 9:35
  on
• 9:36
  just
• 9:36
  grass
• 9:37
  and
• 9:37
  mud.
• 9:38
  But
• 9:38
  I
• 9:38
  don't
• 9:39
  know.
• 9:39
  I
• 9:39
  mean,
• 9:39
  I,
• 9:40
  I
• 9:40
  just,
• 9:40
  I'm
• 9:40
  brilliant.
• 9:41
  Somebody
• 9:41
  give
• 9:41
  me
• 9:41
  a
• 9:41
  doctorate.
• 9:42
  I
• 9:42
  just
• 9:42
  came
• 9:42
  up
• 9:43
  with
• 9:43
  a
• 9:43
  thesis.
• 9:43
  There
• 9:44
  you
• 9:44
  go.
• 9:47
  And
• 9:48
  I
• 9:48
  do
• 9:48
  think
• 9:48
  that
• 9:48
  one
• 9:49
  of
• 9:49
  the
• 9:49
  reasons
• 9:49
  these
• 9:49
  conversations
• 9:50
  really
• 9:51
  become
• 9:51
  difficult
• 9:52
  is
• 9:52
  because
• 9:52
  people
• 9:53
  hear
• 9:53
  criticism.
• 9:54
  And
• 9:55
  when
• 9:56
  the
• 9:56
  reality
• 9:57
  is
• 9:57
  a
• 9:58
  lot
• 9:58
  of
• 9:58
  people
• 9:59
  are
• 9:59
  just
• 9:59
  describing
• 10:00
  loss,
• 10:01
  there's
• 10:02
  a
• 10:02
  loss
• 10:02
  of
• 10:03
  familiarity,
• 10:04
  a
• 10:04
  loss
• 10:04
  of
• 10:05
  accessibility,
• 10:06
  a
• 10:06
  loss
• 10:06
  of
• 10:07
  connection,
• 10:07
  and
• 10:08
  may
• 10:09
  even
• 10:09
  a
• 10:09
  loss
• 10:09
  of
• 10:09
  influence
• 10:10
  over
• 10:11
  what
• 10:11
  happens
• 10:11
  to
• 10:12
  this
• 10:12
  sport
• 10:12
  next.
• 10:13
  Because
• 10:14
  right
• 10:14
  now
• 10:14
  it
• 10:14
  seems
• 10:15
  pretty
• 10:15
  out
• 10:16
  of
• 10:16
  control.
• 10:17
  Yeah,
• 10:17
  I
• 10:17
  mean,
• 10:18
  a
• 10:18
  lot
• 10:18
  of
• 10:18
  people
• 10:19
  right.
• 10:19
  Right
• 10:19
  now
• 10:20
  are.
• 10:20
  They're
• 10:21
  they're
• 10:21
  emotional
• 10:21
  in
• 10:22
  their
• 10:22
  delivery
• 10:22
  of
• 10:23
  how
• 10:23
  things
• 10:23
  are
• 10:23
  going
• 10:24
  because
• 10:24
  they're
• 10:25
  upset.
• 10:26
  It's
• 10:26
  not
• 10:26
  just
• 10:27
  like,
• 10:27
  well,
• 10:27
  I've
• 10:27
  been
• 10:27
  thinking
• 10:28
  that
• 10:28
  this
• 10:28
  and
• 10:28
  this
• 10:28
  and
• 10:28
  this
• 10:28
  could
• 10:29
  improve.
• 10:29
  It's.
• 10:29
  It's
• 10:30
  very
• 10:30
  touchy
• 10:31
  at
• 10:32
  the
• 10:32
  moment
• 10:32
  and
• 10:32
  I
• 10:32
  agree
• 10:33
  with
• 10:33
  you.
• 10:33
  I
• 10:33
  think
• 10:33
  people
• 10:34
  are
• 10:35
  feeling
• 10:35
  like
• 10:35
  there's
• 10:36
  going
• 10:36
  to
• 10:36
  be
• 10:36
  a
• 10:36
  huge
• 10:36
  loss
• 10:37
  for
• 10:37
  them,
• 10:38
  like
• 10:38
  for
• 10:38
  the,
• 10:38
  for
• 10:39
  the
• 10:39
  small
• 10:39
  fries
• 10:40
  of
• 10:40
  people.
• 10:40
  When
• 10:41
  you
• 10:41
  feel
• 10:41
  like
• 10:42
  you're
• 10:43
  putting
• 10:43
  in
• 10:43
  as
• 10:44
  much
• 10:44
  as
• 10:44
  the
• 10:44
  person
• 10:45
  beside
• 10:45
  you
• 10:45
  that
• 10:46
  just
• 10:46
  happens
• 10:46
  to
• 10:47
  have
• 10:47
  more
• 10:47
  money.
• 10:48
  Not
• 10:48
  necessarily,
• 10:48
  like
• 10:49
  I'm
• 10:49
  saying,
• 10:49
  like
• 10:49
  the
• 10:49
  person
• 10:50
  who
• 10:50
  has
• 10:50
  the
• 10:50
  million
• 10:51
  dollar
• 10:51
  horse.
• 10:52
  And
• 10:53
  it's.
• 10:53
  Let's
• 10:53
  just
• 10:53
  say
• 10:54
  this
• 10:54
  is
• 10:54
  made
• 10:54
  up
• 10:54
  obviously,
• 10:55
  and
• 10:55
  they're
• 10:55
  competing
• 10:56
  in
• 10:56
  the
• 10:56
  same
• 10:56
  division
• 10:57
  as
• 10:57
  you
• 10:57
  and
• 10:57
  they're
• 10:58
  part
• 10:58
  of
• 10:58
  the
• 10:58
  1%
• 10:59
  and
• 10:59
  you're
• 10:59
  not.
• 10:59
  You're
• 11:00
  all
• 11:00
  still
• 11:00
  paying.
• 11:00
  The
• 11:01
  two
• 11:01
  of
• 11:01
  you
• 11:02
  are
• 11:02
  still
• 11:02
  paying
• 11:02
  the
• 11:02
  exact
• 11:03
  same
• 11:03
  division
• 11:03
  fee,
• 11:04
  the
• 11:04
  exact
• 11:04
  same
• 11:05
  drug
• 11:05
  fees
• 11:06
  and
• 11:06
  grounds
• 11:07
  fees
• 11:07
  and
• 11:07
  everything
• 11:07
  else
• 11:08
  that
• 11:08
  cost
• 11:09
  is
• 11:09
  even
• 11:09
  across
• 11:10
  the
• 11:10
  board.
• 11:11
  And
• 11:11
  so
• 11:11
  when
• 11:11
  you
• 11:11
  feel
• 11:12
  like
• 11:12
  you're
• 11:12
  the
• 11:13
  small
• 11:13
  fry
• 11:14
  and
• 11:14
  your
• 11:15
  opinions
• 11:15
  don't
• 11:15
  matter,
• 11:16
  but
• 11:16
  somebody
• 11:17
  else
• 11:17
  who's
• 11:17
  not
• 11:17
  paying
• 11:18
  any
• 11:18
  more
• 11:18
  money
• 11:18
  than
• 11:18
  you
• 11:19
  just
• 11:19
  happens
• 11:20
  to
• 11:20
  have
• 11:20
  more
• 11:20
  influence
• 11:21
  is
• 11:21
  getting
• 11:21
  paid
• 11:22
  attention
• 11:22
  to,
• 11:23
  you
• 11:23
  start
• 11:23
  to
• 11:23
  get
• 11:23
  really
• 11:24
  upset
• 11:24
  about
• 11:24
  it
• 11:25
  because
• 11:25
  it's.
• 11:26
  You're
• 11:26
  a
• 11:26
  part
• 11:27
  of
• 11:27
  making
• 11:27
  this
• 11:28
  wheel
• 11:28
  go
• 11:28
  around
• 11:29
  too.
• 11:29
  Absolutely.
• 11:30
  And
• 11:30
  I,
• 11:30
  I
• 11:31
  think
• 11:31
  about
• 11:31
  these
• 11:31
  poor
• 11:32
  parents
• 11:32
  these
• 11:33
  days
• 11:33
  whose
• 11:34
  children,
• 11:34
  all
• 11:35
  they
• 11:35
  hear
• 11:35
  about
• 11:35
  is
• 11:36
  Pony
• 11:36
  Finals.
• 11:36
  Pony
• 11:37
  Finals,
• 11:37
  Pony
• 11:38
  Finals.
• 11:38
  And
• 11:39
  that
• 11:39
  is
• 11:39
  every
• 11:40
  kid
• 11:40
  suddenly
• 11:41
  their
• 11:41
  dream.
• 11:42
  And
• 11:43
  people
• 11:44
  ask
• 11:44
  grandparents
• 11:45
  or
• 11:45
  take
• 11:46
  loans
• 11:46
  to
• 11:46
  try
• 11:46
  to
• 11:46
  get
• 11:47
  their
• 11:47
  kids
• 11:47
  to
• 11:47
  Pony
• 11:48
  Finals.
• 11:48
  And
• 11:50
  there's
• 11:51
  almost
• 11:51
  so
• 11:51
  much
• 11:52
  competition.
• 11:53
  How
• 11:53
  in
• 11:53
  the
• 11:54
  world
• 11:54
  will
• 11:54
  you
• 11:55
  ever
• 11:56
  be
• 11:56
  able
• 11:56
  to
• 11:57
  keep
• 11:57
  up
• 11:57
  or
• 11:58
  feel
• 11:58
  like
• 11:58
  you
• 11:59
  learned
• 11:59
  something
• 12:00
  or
• 12:00
  accomplished
• 12:01
  something
• 12:02
  Right.
• 12:02
  By
• 12:02
  going.
• 12:03
  And
• 12:04
  now
• 12:05
  the
• 12:06
  pony
• 12:06
  basically
• 12:07
  can
• 12:07
  get
• 12:08
  qualified
• 12:08
  for
• 12:08
  Pony
• 12:09
  Finals
• 12:10
  and
• 12:10
  you
• 12:10
  as
• 12:10
  a
• 12:11
  kid
• 12:11
  rider
• 12:12
  can
• 12:12
  just
• 12:13
  lease
• 12:13
  the
• 12:13
  pony
• 12:14
  that's
• 12:15
  already
• 12:15
  qualified
• 12:16
  and.
• 12:17
  Right.
• 12:18
  I
• 12:18
  don't
• 12:18
  know,
• 12:18
  it
• 12:19
  just,
• 12:19
  it
• 12:19
  seems
• 12:20
  right.
• 12:20
  It's
• 12:20
  not
• 12:20
  a
• 12:20
  combo.
• 12:22
  Yeah,
• 12:22
  the,
• 12:23
  the
• 12:23
  way
• 12:23
  that
• 12:23
  we
• 12:24
  are
• 12:25
  making
• 12:25
  these
• 12:25
  systems
• 12:26
  work,
• 12:27
  to
• 12:27
  me,
• 12:28
  don't
• 12:28
  work.
• 12:29
  I
• 12:29
  don't
• 12:29
  think
• 12:30
  that
• 12:30
  they
• 12:30
  are
• 12:32
  creating
• 12:33
  a
• 12:33
  horseman
• 12:34
  or
• 12:35
  a
• 12:36
  learning
• 12:36
  environment
• 12:37
  for.
• 12:37
  Well,
• 12:37
  I
• 12:38
  mean,
• 12:38
  it
• 12:38
  certainly
• 12:38
  helps
• 12:39
  the,
• 12:39
  the
• 12:39
  pony's
• 12:40
  cost.
• 12:41
  Right.
• 12:41
  Like
• 12:41
  if
• 12:41
  you're
• 12:41
  the
• 12:42
  person
• 12:42
  selling
• 12:42
  the
• 12:42
  green
• 12:43
  pony
• 12:43
  and
• 12:43
  oh,
• 12:44
  it's
• 12:44
  already
• 12:44
  qualified,
• 12:45
  you
• 12:45
  don't
• 12:45
  have
• 12:45
  to
• 12:45
  worry
• 12:45
  about
• 12:46
  that
• 12:46
  certainly
• 12:46
  is
• 12:47
  a
• 12:47
  selling
• 12:47
  point
• 12:47
  for
• 12:47
  them
• 12:48
  and
• 12:48
  makes
• 12:48
  the
• 12:48
  pony's
• 12:49
  value
• 12:49
  go
• 12:49
  up.
• 12:49
  So
• 12:49
  I
• 12:49
  guess
• 12:50
  on
• 12:50
  the
• 12:50
  one
• 12:50
  side,
• 12:50
  for
• 12:51
  the
• 12:52
  sellers,
• 12:52
  it's
• 12:52
  a
• 12:52
  great
• 12:52
  thing.
• 12:53
  But
• 12:53
  like
• 12:54
  to
• 12:54
  your
• 12:54
  point,
• 12:54
  for
• 12:54
  the
• 12:54
  Horsemen
• 12:55
  and
• 12:55
  where
• 12:56
  we've
• 12:56
  got
• 12:56
  this
• 12:57
  young
• 12:57
  group
• 12:57
  of
• 12:58
  Kids
• 12:58
  typically,
• 12:58
  who
• 12:59
  are
• 12:59
  going
• 12:59
  to
• 12:59
  pony
• 12:59
  finals,
• 13:00
  the
• 13:00
  event
• 13:00
  itself
• 13:01
  is
• 13:01
  amazing,
• 13:01
  and
• 13:01
  there's
• 13:02
  all
• 13:02
  these
• 13:02
  opportunities
• 13:03
  for
• 13:03
  them
• 13:03
  to
• 13:03
  go
• 13:03
  do
• 13:03
  things,
• 13:03
  and
• 13:04
  it's
• 13:04
  like
• 13:04
  you
• 13:04
  want
• 13:05
  them
• 13:05
  to
• 13:05
  be
• 13:05
  learning
• 13:05
  how
• 13:05
  to
• 13:06
  do
• 13:06
  things.
• 13:06
  And.
• 13:07
  Okay,
• 13:07
  can't
• 13:08
  have
• 13:08
  trainer
• 13:08
  rides.
• 13:09
  That
• 13:09
  is
• 13:09
  one
• 13:10
  thing
• 13:10
  that
• 13:10
  I
• 13:10
  find
• 13:10
  crazy.
• 13:10
  Like,
• 13:11
  the
• 13:11
  pony
• 13:11
  can
• 13:11
  be
• 13:11
  qualified.
• 13:12
  You
• 13:12
  don't
• 13:13
  have
• 13:13
  to
• 13:13
  have
• 13:13
  that
• 13:13
  much
• 13:13
  of
• 13:13
  a
• 13:14
  relationship
• 13:14
  with
• 13:14
  the
• 13:14
  pony,
• 13:14
  but
• 13:15
  then
• 13:15
  the
• 13:15
  trainer
• 13:16
  can't
• 13:16
  help
• 13:16
  prep.
• 13:16
  Prep
• 13:17
  the
• 13:17
  pony
• 13:17
  like,
• 13:17
  the
• 13:17
  day
• 13:17
  before.
• 13:18
  48
• 13:18
  hours.
• 13:19
  I
• 13:19
  don't
• 13:19
  even
• 13:19
  know.
• 13:19
  I
• 13:19
  never
• 13:20
  went,
• 13:20
  so
• 13:22
  it
• 13:22
  didn't
• 13:23
  exist.
• 13:24
  Yeah.
• 13:25
  So.
• 13:25
  Well,
• 13:25
  I
• 13:25
  didn't
• 13:26
  get
• 13:26
  a
• 13:26
  pony
• 13:26
  either.
• 13:27
  They
• 13:27
  were
• 13:27
  like,
• 13:27
  here's
• 13:27
  your
• 13:27
  pony.
• 13:28
  Learn
• 13:28
  how
• 13:28
  to
• 13:28
  walk
• 13:28
  Trout
• 13:28
  canter.
• 13:29
  Okay,
• 13:29
  here's
• 13:29
  your
• 13:29
  horse.
• 13:29
  By.
• 13:30
  I
• 13:30
  was
• 13:30
  like,
• 13:30
  okay,
• 13:31
  I
• 13:32
  never
• 13:32
  had
• 13:32
  a
• 13:32
  pony.
• 13:33
  But
• 13:33
  in
• 13:34
  truth,
• 13:34
  pony
• 13:35
  finals
• 13:35
  didn't
• 13:36
  exist,
• 13:36
  just
• 13:37
  like
• 13:37
  college
• 13:37
  programs
• 13:38
  didn't
• 13:38
  exist.
• 13:39
  So
• 13:39
  I'm
• 13:39
  old.
• 13:40
  Okay.
• 13:42
  But
• 13:43
  I
• 13:43
  just,
• 13:44
  I
• 13:44
  agree.
• 13:44
  Like,
• 13:47
  I
• 13:47
  don't
• 13:47
  understand,
• 13:48
  like,
• 13:48
  how
• 13:48
  that's
• 13:49
  conducive
• 13:49
  to
• 13:49
  the
• 13:50
  education
• 13:50
  portion
• 13:51
  of
• 13:53
  having
• 13:53
  a
• 13:53
  relationship
• 13:54
  with
• 13:54
  your
• 13:54
  pony
• 13:55
  and
• 13:55
  knowing
• 13:56
  them
• 13:56
  trying
• 13:56
  the
• 13:56
  back
• 13:57
  of
• 13:57
  your
• 13:57
  hand.
• 13:57
  Yeah,
• 13:58
  yeah.
• 13:58
  Now
• 13:59
  you
• 13:59
  can
• 13:59
  go
• 14:00
  lease.
• 14:01
  You
• 14:01
  can
• 14:01
  just
• 14:01
  lease
• 14:02
  a
• 14:02
  qualified
• 14:03
  pony.
• 14:03
  You
• 14:04
  don't
• 14:04
  even
• 14:04
  have
• 14:04
  to
• 14:04
  buy
• 14:05
  it.
• 14:05
  So,
• 14:05
  yes,
• 14:06
  there's
• 14:06
  a.
• 14:07
  It's
• 14:07
  great
• 14:08
  for
• 14:08
  the
• 14:08
  seller
• 14:09
  if
• 14:09
  the
• 14:09
  horse
• 14:09
  is
• 14:10
  for
• 14:10
  sale,
• 14:10
  but
• 14:10
  you
• 14:10
  can
• 14:11
  also
• 14:11
  just
• 14:12
  lease.
• 14:12
  Just
• 14:13
  lease
• 14:13
  it
• 14:13
  for
• 14:13
  the
• 14:13
  weekend.
• 14:14
  Yeah,
• 14:15
  Yeah.
• 14:15
  I,
• 14:15
  I,
• 14:16
  this
• 14:16
  blows
• 14:17
  my
• 14:17
  mind.
• 14:17
  Not
• 14:17
  that
• 14:17
  I
• 14:18
  think
• 14:18
  that
• 14:18
  my
• 14:18
  daughter.
• 14:19
  I
• 14:19
  don't.
• 14:19
  I
• 14:19
  don't
• 14:20
  know.
• 14:20
  I
• 14:20
  got
• 14:20
  questions
• 14:20
  about
• 14:20
  Tegan
• 14:21
  and
• 14:21
  if
• 14:22
  she's
• 14:22
  ever
• 14:22
  gonna
• 14:22
  get
• 14:22
  into
• 14:23
  the
• 14:23
  horse
• 14:23
  thing
• 14:23
  anyways.
• 14:24
  But
• 14:24
  if
• 14:24
  she
• 14:25
  does
• 14:25
  that
• 14:26
  sure
• 14:26
  as
• 14:26
  heck
• 14:26
  won't
• 14:26
  be
• 14:27
  how
• 14:27
  she's
• 14:27
  doing
• 14:27
  it.
• 14:29
  I
• 14:29
  guess
• 14:30
  not.
• 14:33
  Well,
• 14:34
  I
• 14:34
  honestly
• 14:35
  think
• 14:36
  everybody
• 14:36
  is
• 14:37
  just
• 14:37
  tired
• 14:38
  of
• 14:38
  all
• 14:38
  this.
• 14:38
  Trainers
• 14:39
  are
• 14:39
  tired
• 14:40
  and
• 14:40
  amateurs
• 14:41
  are
• 14:41
  tired.
• 14:41
  Parents
• 14:42
  are
• 14:42
  tired.
• 14:42
  Everybody
• 14:43
  feels
• 14:43
  this
• 14:44
  pressure.
• 14:45
  Like
• 14:45
  you
• 14:45
  said,
• 14:45
  there's
• 14:46
  so
• 14:46
  much
• 14:46
  financial
• 14:47
  pressure.
• 14:47
  And
• 14:48
  then
• 14:48
  you
• 14:48
  add.
• 14:49
  Everybody
• 14:49
  feels
• 14:50
  pressure,
• 14:50
  and
• 14:50
  then
• 14:50
  there's
• 14:51
  not
• 14:51
  enough
• 14:51
  money
• 14:51
  to
• 14:51
  go
• 14:52
  around.
• 14:52
  It's
• 14:52
  like,
• 14:52
  oh,
• 14:53
  my
• 14:53
  God.
• 14:53
  Exactly.
• 14:54
  Exactly.
• 14:55
  So
• 14:56
  you
• 14:56
  have.
• 14:56
  And
• 14:56
  then
• 14:57
  to
• 14:57
  add
• 14:57
  to
• 14:58
  that
• 14:58
  the
• 14:59
  competitive
• 15:00
  pressure
• 15:00
  between
• 15:01
  kids,
• 15:02
  you
• 15:02
  have
• 15:03
  the
• 15:03
  social
• 15:03
  media
• 15:04
  pressure,
• 15:05
  you
• 15:05
  have
• 15:05
  pressure
• 15:06
  to
• 15:06
  justify
• 15:07
  the
• 15:07
  expense
• 15:08
  of
• 15:08
  horses,
• 15:09
  and
• 15:10
  then
• 15:10
  you
• 15:10
  have
• 15:10
  pressure
• 15:11
  to
• 15:11
  trust
• 15:11
  the
• 15:12
  systems
• 15:12
  that
• 15:13
  don't
• 15:13
  really
• 15:14
  feel
• 15:14
  like
• 15:14
  they're
• 15:14
  connected
• 15:15
  to
• 15:15
  everyday
• 15:16
  horse
• 15:16
  life.
• 15:17
  Well,
• 15:18
  at
• 15:18
  what
• 15:19
  point
• 15:19
  do
• 15:19
  you
• 15:20
  feel
• 15:20
  that
• 15:20
  horse
• 15:21
  shows
• 15:21
  stopped
• 15:21
  feeling
• 15:22
  local?
• 15:23
  Like,
• 15:23
  even
• 15:23
  just
• 15:24
  in
• 15:24
  our
• 15:24
  area?
• 15:24
  I've
• 15:25
  got
• 15:25
  some
• 15:25
  opinions
• 15:26
  on
• 15:26
  that,
• 15:26
  but
• 15:26
  what
• 15:26
  do
• 15:26
  you
• 15:27
  think?
• 15:27
  I
• 15:28
  would
• 15:28
  say
• 15:28
  when
• 15:29
  I
• 15:29
  moved
• 15:30
  here
• 15:30
  15
• 15:30
  years
• 15:31
  ago,
• 15:31
  and
• 15:31
  when
• 15:31
  I
• 15:32
  first
• 15:32
  started
• 15:32
  riding
• 15:33
  here,
• 15:34
  the
• 15:34
  local
• 15:35
  shows
• 15:35
  felt
• 15:35
  like
• 15:35
  they
• 15:36
  were
• 15:36
  pretty
• 15:37
  prominent
• 15:37
  and
• 15:38
  I
• 15:38
  think
• 15:38
  that
• 15:38
  that's
• 15:39
  what
• 15:39
  some
• 15:40
  of
• 15:40
  the
• 15:40
  local
• 15:41
  state
• 15:41
  organizations
• 15:42
  help
• 15:42
  promote
• 15:43
  because
• 15:44
  they
• 15:44
  reward
• 15:45
  and
• 15:45
  give
• 15:45
  the
• 15:45
  points
• 15:46
  and
• 15:46
  create
• 15:47
  the
• 15:47
  camaraderie
• 15:48
  and
• 15:49
  the
• 15:49
  social
• 15:50
  connections
• 15:51
  through
• 15:52
  the
• 15:52
  local
• 15:52
  organizations.
• 15:54
  But
• 15:54
  if
• 15:55
  you
• 15:55
  don't
• 15:55
  have
• 15:55
  a
• 15:55
  strong
• 15:56
  local
• 15:56
  organization
• 15:57
  or
• 15:57
  if
• 15:58
  your
• 15:58
  local
• 15:59
  organization
• 15:59
  is
• 16:00
  struggling
• 16:00
  in
• 16:00
  any
• 16:00
  way,
• 16:01
  then
• 16:01
  you
• 16:01
  don't
• 16:01
  get
• 16:02
  the
• 16:02
  benefit
• 16:02
  of
• 16:02
  all
• 16:03
  that.
• 16:04
  I
• 16:04
  just.
• 16:05
  So
• 16:05
  I
• 16:05
  think.
• 16:06
  And
• 16:06
  then
• 16:07
  like
• 16:08
  I
• 16:08
  said,
• 16:08
  I
• 16:08
  also
• 16:09
  see
• 16:09
  the
• 16:09
  trajectory
• 16:10
  of
• 16:10
  where
• 16:12
  just
• 16:12
  in
• 16:12
  the
• 16:12
  last
• 16:13
  six
• 16:14
  years,
• 16:14
  I
• 16:14
  guess
• 16:15
  is
• 16:15
  when
• 16:15
  the
• 16:15
  World
• 16:16
  Equestrian
• 16:16
  center
• 16:17
  opened
• 16:17
  and
• 16:18
  suddenly
• 16:18
  that
• 16:18
  opened
• 16:19
  the
• 16:19
  door
• 16:20
  to
• 16:20
  something
• 16:21
  different.
• 16:21
  I
• 16:21
  mean,
• 16:21
  I
• 16:22
  do
• 16:22
  think
• 16:22
  that
• 16:23
  real
• 16:23
  estate
• 16:24
  in
• 16:24
  general
• 16:25
  changed
• 16:26
  the
• 16:26
  ability
• 16:27
  for
• 16:27
  some
• 16:27
  of
• 16:27
  these
• 16:28
  local
• 16:28
  shows.
• 16:29
  Yes,
• 16:29
  you
• 16:29
  might
• 16:29
  have
• 16:30
  a
• 16:30
  facility
• 16:31
  that
• 16:31
  has
• 16:31
  a
• 16:32
  great
• 16:32
  city
• 16:32
  set
• 16:32
  up
• 16:33
  and
• 16:34
  places
• 16:34
  for
• 16:34
  people
• 16:35
  to
• 16:35
  park,
• 16:35
  but
• 16:35
  not
• 16:36
  everyone
• 16:36
  does.
• 16:37
  Some
• 16:37
  of
• 16:37
  them
• 16:37
  are
• 16:37
  too
• 16:37
  small,
• 16:38
  can't
• 16:39
  host
• 16:39
  people,
• 16:39
  can't
• 16:40
  do
• 16:40
  a
• 16:40
  two
• 16:40
  day
• 16:41
  thing,
• 16:41
  has
• 16:41
  to
• 16:41
  be
• 16:42
  a
• 16:42
  one
• 16:42
  day.
• 16:42
  I,
• 16:42
  I
• 16:42
  don't
• 16:43
  know,
• 16:43
  I
• 16:43
  think,
• 16:43
  you
• 16:44
  know,
• 16:44
  people
• 16:44
  are
• 16:44
  sort
• 16:45
  of
• 16:45
  burned
• 16:46
  out
• 16:46
  thinking
• 16:47
  about
• 16:47
  how
• 16:47
  do
• 16:48
  we
• 16:48
  manage
• 16:49
  the
• 16:49
  local
• 16:49
  thing.
• 16:50
  It's
• 16:50
  so
• 16:50
  much
• 16:50
  easier,
• 16:51
  like
• 16:51
  you
• 16:51
  said,
• 16:51
  in
• 16:51
  a
• 16:52
  way
• 16:52
  to
• 16:52
  save
• 16:52
  up
• 16:52
  your
• 16:52
  money
• 16:53
  and
• 16:53
  just
• 16:53
  go
• 16:53
  to
• 16:54
  the
• 16:54
  big
• 16:54
  one.
• 16:54
  Yeah,
• 16:55
  I
• 16:55
  mean
• 16:55
  there
• 16:55
  is
• 16:55
  something
• 16:56
  to
• 16:56
  be
• 16:56
  said
• 16:56
  for
• 16:56
  that.
• 16:57
  However,
• 16:57
  you
• 16:58
  know,
• 16:58
  I
• 16:59
  felt
• 16:59
  like
• 17:00
  probably
• 17:01
  within
• 17:01
  like
• 17:01
  the
• 17:01
  last
• 17:02
  12
• 17:02
  years
• 17:04
  where
• 17:05
  I
• 17:05
  felt
• 17:06
  like,
• 17:06
  gosh,
• 17:06
  maybe
• 17:07
  it
• 17:07
  was
• 17:07
  even
• 17:07
  sooner,
• 17:07
  I'm
• 17:08
  not
• 17:08
  really
• 17:08
  sure.
• 17:08
  But
• 17:09
  even
• 17:09
  the,
• 17:09
  even
• 17:09
  the
• 17:10
  big
• 17:10
  shows
• 17:10
  though,
• 17:10
  like
• 17:11
  you
• 17:11
  could
• 17:11
  have,
• 17:12
  when
• 17:12
  you're
• 17:12
  at
• 17:12
  a
• 17:12
  local
• 17:13
  show,
• 17:13
  even
• 17:14
  if
• 17:14
  it's
• 17:14
  a
• 17:14
  one
• 17:14
  or
• 17:14
  two
• 17:15
  day,
• 17:15
  it's
• 17:16
  not
• 17:16
  necessarily
• 17:17
  like
• 17:17
  you're
• 17:17
  back
• 17:18
  in
• 17:18
  the
• 17:18
  barns
• 17:18
  unless
• 17:19
  that
• 17:19
  facility
• 17:20
  has
• 17:20
  the
• 17:20
  ability
• 17:21
  for
• 17:21
  you
• 17:21
  to
• 17:21
  have
• 17:21
  a
• 17:21
  stall.
• 17:22
  And
• 17:22
  I
• 17:22
  would,
• 17:23
  I
• 17:23
  would
• 17:23
  venture
• 17:23
  to
• 17:23
  say
• 17:24
  that
• 17:24
  more
• 17:24
  of
• 17:24
  them
• 17:24
  don't
• 17:25
  than
• 17:25
  do.
• 17:26
  So
• 17:26
  you're
• 17:26
  out
• 17:26
  and
• 17:26
  about
• 17:27
  and
• 17:27
  you're
• 17:27
  mingling
• 17:27
  with
• 17:27
  people
• 17:28
  and
• 17:28
  you're
• 17:28
  seeing
• 17:28
  them
• 17:29
  and.
• 17:29
  Right.
• 17:30
  Like
• 17:30
  if
• 17:30
  you've
• 17:30
  got
• 17:30
  friends,
• 17:31
  like
• 17:31
  you're
• 17:31
  not
• 17:32
  kind
• 17:32
  of
• 17:33
  cut
• 17:33
  away
• 17:33
  from
• 17:34
  where
• 17:34
  things
• 17:34
  are
• 17:35
  happening
• 17:36
  and
• 17:36
  you're,
• 17:36
  you
• 17:37
  know,
• 17:37
  dragging
• 17:37
  your
• 17:37
  horse
• 17:38
  along
• 17:38
  with
• 17:38
  you.
• 17:39
  But
• 17:39
  at
• 17:39
  the
• 17:39
  same
• 17:40
  time,
• 17:40
  I
• 17:40
  remember
• 17:42
  even
• 17:42
  when
• 17:42
  I
• 17:42
  was
• 17:43
  a
• 17:43
  teenager
• 17:43
  and
• 17:43
  even
• 17:44
  like
• 17:44
  up
• 17:45
  to
• 17:45
  10
• 17:45
  years
• 17:45
  ago
• 17:46
  or
• 17:46
  five
• 17:46
  years
• 17:46
  ago,
• 17:47
  the
• 17:47
  gathering
• 17:48
  of
• 17:48
  people
• 17:49
  at
• 17:49
  rated
• 17:50
  shows,
• 17:50
  like
• 17:50
  for
• 17:51
  some
• 17:52
  like
• 17:52
  a
• 17:52
  little
• 17:52
  event
• 17:52
  at
• 17:53
  that
• 17:53
  afternoon
• 17:54
  or
• 17:54
  the
• 17:55
  derby
• 17:55
  evenings
• 17:56
  versus
• 17:56
  having
• 17:57
  them
• 17:57
  like
• 17:57
  in
• 17:58
  the
• 17:58
  morning,
• 17:59
  it
• 17:59
  draws
• 18:00
  a
• 18:00
  crowd
• 18:00
  and
• 18:01
  it
• 18:01
  draws
• 18:01
  people
• 18:02
  together
• 18:03
  and
• 18:03
  I
• 18:03
  don't
• 18:05
  see
• 18:05
  a
• 18:05
  ton
• 18:05
  of
• 18:06
  that
• 18:06
  happening.
• 18:06
  And
• 18:06
  I
• 18:06
  know
• 18:07
  that
• 18:07
  that
• 18:07
  costs
• 18:07
  money
• 18:07
  to
• 18:08
  the
• 18:08
  horse
• 18:08
  show
• 18:08
  unless
• 18:09
  they
• 18:09
  have
• 18:09
  sponsors
• 18:09
  to
• 18:10
  be
• 18:10
  able
• 18:10
  to
• 18:10
  have
• 18:11
  those
• 18:11
  events
• 18:11
  and
• 18:11
  things
• 18:12
  like
• 18:12
  that.
• 18:13
  But
• 18:13
  it's
• 18:13
  sort
• 18:14
  of
• 18:14
  like
• 18:15
  get
• 18:15
  to
• 18:15
  the
• 18:15
  horse
• 18:15
  show,
• 18:16
  do
• 18:16
  your
• 18:16
  class,
• 18:17
  pack
• 18:17
  up
• 18:17
  go
• 18:18
  home
• 18:18
  versus
• 18:20
  hanging
• 18:20
  around
• 18:21
  and
• 18:21
  seeing
• 18:21
  what
• 18:21
  everybody's
• 18:22
  up
• 18:22
  to.
• 18:22
  And
• 18:22
  I
• 18:23
  don't
• 18:23
  mean,
• 18:23
  like
• 18:23
  with
• 18:23
  two
• 18:23
  or
• 18:23
  three
• 18:24
  people.
• 18:24
  I
• 18:24
  mean,
• 18:24
  like,
• 18:24
  tons
• 18:25
  of
• 18:25
  people.
• 18:26
  Like
• 18:26
  having
• 18:27
  a
• 18:27
  little
• 18:27
  horse
• 18:27
  show
• 18:28
  party
• 18:28
  at
• 18:28
  the
• 18:28
  end
• 18:28
  of
• 18:28
  the
• 18:29
  night
• 18:29
  or
• 18:29
  end
• 18:29
  of
• 18:30
  the
• 18:30
  day.
• 18:31
  Well,
• 18:31
  I
• 18:31
  think
• 18:31
  to
• 18:32
  your
• 18:32
  point
• 18:32
  about
• 18:32
  having
• 18:33
  tons
• 18:33
  of
• 18:33
  people,
• 18:34
  that
• 18:34
  is
• 18:35
  a
• 18:35
  business
• 18:35
  reality
• 18:36
  for
• 18:36
  trainers
• 18:37
  these
• 18:37
  days.
• 18:38
  Now.
• 18:38
  They
• 18:39
  can't.
• 18:40
  I
• 18:40
  don't
• 18:40
  know
• 18:40
  how
• 18:40
  you
• 18:41
  afford
• 18:41
  to
• 18:41
  go
• 18:42
  to
• 18:42
  horse
• 18:42
  shows
• 18:43
  and
• 18:44
  stay
• 18:44
  for
• 18:45
  one
• 18:46
  week
• 18:46
  or
• 18:46
  even
• 18:46
  two
• 18:47
  when
• 18:47
  you
• 18:48
  have
• 18:48
  a
• 18:48
  barn
• 18:48
  full
• 18:48
  of
• 18:49
  other
• 18:49
  people
• 18:49
  at
• 18:50
  home
• 18:50
  that
• 18:51
  didn't
• 18:51
  go
• 18:52
  unless
• 18:52
  you
• 18:53
  have
• 18:54
  a
• 18:54
  pretty
• 18:54
  large
• 18:55
  number
• 18:55
  of
• 18:55
  people
• 18:55
  that
• 18:55
  do
• 18:56
  go.
• 18:57
  So
• 18:57
  that's.
• 18:57
  I
• 18:57
  think
• 18:57
  what
• 18:58
  I
• 18:58
  was
• 18:58
  saying
• 18:58
  before
• 18:59
  is,
• 18:59
  like,
• 18:59
  I
• 18:59
  know
• 19:00
  some
• 19:00
  barns
• 19:01
  really
• 19:01
  just
• 19:01
  focus
• 19:02
  their
• 19:02
  whole
• 19:03
  program
• 19:04
  on
• 19:04
  going
• 19:05
  and
• 19:06
  not
• 19:06
  to
• 19:06
  going
• 19:07
  to
• 19:07
  the
• 19:08
  local
• 19:08
  horse
• 19:08
  shows,
• 19:09
  which
• 19:09
  is
• 19:10
  a
• 19:10
  shame.
• 19:10
  I
• 19:11
  really
• 19:11
  do
• 19:11
  think.
• 19:12
  It
• 19:12
  really
• 19:12
  is
• 19:13
  sad.
• 19:13
  And
• 19:13
  I
• 19:14
  do
• 19:14
  think,
• 19:14
  too,
• 19:14
  that
• 19:15
  we
• 19:16
  now
• 19:16
  have
• 19:17
  so
• 19:17
  much
• 19:18
  social
• 19:18
  media
• 19:18
  scrutiny
• 19:19
  where,
• 19:20
  you
• 19:20
  know,
• 19:20
  everybody's
• 19:21
  looking
• 19:21
  to
• 19:21
  see
• 19:21
  what
• 19:21
  the
• 19:21
  next
• 19:22
  person's
• 19:22
  doing.
• 19:22
  So,
• 19:23
  oh,
• 19:24
  I
• 19:24
  went
• 19:24
  to
• 19:24
  Kentucky
• 19:25
  Horse
• 19:25
  Park.
• 19:25
  Oh,
• 19:26
  I
• 19:26
  went
• 19:26
  to
• 19:27
  Wellington.
• 19:28
  Oh,
• 19:28
  you
• 19:29
  know,
• 19:29
  they.
• 19:29
  They
• 19:29
  post
• 19:30
  the
• 19:30
  clip,
• 19:30
  my
• 19:30
  horse
• 19:31
  things,
• 19:31
  and
• 19:31
  you
• 19:32
  can
• 19:32
  see
• 19:32
  where
• 19:32
  they've
• 19:33
  been.
• 19:33
  Never
• 19:34
  mind,
• 19:34
  you
• 19:34
  know,
• 19:35
  what
• 19:35
  their
• 19:35
  trip
• 19:36
  was
• 19:36
  like.
• 19:36
  But
• 19:36
  just
• 19:37
  the
• 19:37
  fact
• 19:37
  that
• 19:38
  it
• 19:38
  comes
• 19:38
  up
• 19:39
  on
• 19:39
  the
• 19:39
  banner
• 19:40
  as
• 19:41
  here.
• 19:41
  Here's
• 19:42
  where
• 19:42
  I
• 19:42
  was
• 19:44
  so
• 19:44
  sure.
• 19:46
  It
• 19:46
  just.
• 19:48
  I
• 19:48
  just
• 19:48
  think
• 19:48
  that
• 19:49
  we
• 19:49
  are
• 19:51
  going
• 19:51
  in
• 19:52
  a
• 19:52
  direction
• 19:52
  that
• 19:53
  I'm
• 19:53
  really
• 19:53
  not
• 19:54
  sure
• 19:55
  about.
• 19:55
  And
• 19:56
  the
• 19:56
  thing
• 19:57
  that's
• 19:58
  gonna
• 19:58
  end
• 19:58
  up
• 19:58
  happening
• 19:59
  is
• 19:59
  people
• 19:59
  are
• 19:59
  gonna
• 19:59
  start
• 20:00
  flooding
• 20:00
  the
• 20:00
  local
• 20:01
  circuit
• 20:01
  again.
• 20:02
  I
• 20:02
  mean,
• 20:02
  I
• 20:02
  don't
• 20:02
  know.
• 20:02
  I
• 20:03
  can't
• 20:03
  forecast
• 20:03
  any
• 20:04
  of
• 20:04
  that.
• 20:04
  Obviously,
• 20:04
  I'm
• 20:04
  not
• 20:04
  qualified,
• 20:05
  but
• 20:06
  I
• 20:06
  just.
• 20:07
  I
• 20:07
  mean,
• 20:07
  but
• 20:07
  maybe
• 20:07
  that's
• 20:08
  what's
• 20:08
  gonna
• 20:08
  happen.
• 20:09
  People
• 20:09
  are
• 20:09
  gonna
• 20:10
  like,
• 20:10
  I'm.
• 20:10
  I'm
• 20:11
  tapped.
• 20:11
  I
• 20:11
  don't
• 20:11
  like
• 20:11
  what's
• 20:12
  happening
• 20:12
  here.
• 20:13
  And.
• 20:14
  Okay,
• 20:14
  well,
• 20:14
  I
• 20:14
  still
• 20:15
  want
• 20:15
  to
• 20:15
  ride
• 20:15
  my
• 20:15
  horse,
• 20:15
  and
• 20:16
  I
• 20:16
  still
• 20:16
  want
• 20:16
  to
• 20:16
  compete.
• 20:16
  So
• 20:17
  I'm
• 20:18
  going
• 20:18
  back
• 20:18
  to
• 20:18
  what
• 20:18
  I
• 20:19
  know.
• 20:19
  Well,
• 20:19
  there's
• 20:20
  a
• 20:20
  movement
• 20:20
  for
• 20:21
  that.
• 20:21
  So,
• 20:22
  I
• 20:22
  mean,
• 20:22
  I
• 20:22
  think
• 20:22
  that,
• 20:23
  you
• 20:23
  know,
• 20:23
  people
• 20:23
  really
• 20:24
  are
• 20:24
  trying
• 20:24
  to
• 20:24
  do
• 20:24
  that.
• 20:25
  And
• 20:26
  that
• 20:26
  leads
• 20:26
  me
• 20:26
  to
• 20:27
  one
• 20:27
  of
• 20:27
  the
• 20:27
  moments
• 20:28
  that
• 20:28
  I
• 20:29
  stayed
• 20:30
  with
• 20:30
  me
• 20:30
  the
• 20:30
  most
• 20:31
  when
• 20:31
  from
• 20:31
  the
• 20:32
  listening
• 20:32
  session
• 20:33
  was
• 20:33
  the
• 20:33
  discussion
• 20:34
  about
• 20:34
  lesson
• 20:34
  programs.
• 20:35
  Because
• 20:35
  when
• 20:36
  people
• 20:36
  say
• 20:36
  we're
• 20:36
  losing
• 20:37
  lesson
• 20:37
  programs,
• 20:38
  they're
• 20:38
  not
• 20:38
  just
• 20:38
  talking
• 20:38
  about
• 20:39
  business,
• 20:39
  right?
• 20:40
  We're
• 20:40
  talking
• 20:40
  about
• 20:41
  the
• 20:41
  middle
• 20:42
  of
• 20:42
  the
• 20:42
  sport,
• 20:42
  the
• 20:43
  place
• 20:43
  where
• 20:43
  people
• 20:43
  fall
• 20:44
  in
• 20:44
  love
• 20:44
  with
• 20:44
  horses,
• 20:45
  the
• 20:46
  place
• 20:46
  where
• 20:46
  amateurs
• 20:47
  come
• 20:47
  from.
• 20:48
  And
• 20:48
  I
• 20:49
  think
• 20:49
  people
• 20:50
  understand
• 20:50
  instinctively
• 20:51
  that
• 20:51
  if
• 20:52
  that
• 20:52
  disappears,
• 20:53
  then
• 20:54
  the
• 20:54
  entire
• 20:54
  culture
• 20:55
  of
• 20:55
  the
• 20:55
  sport
• 20:55
  changes
• 20:56
  with
• 20:56
  it
• 20:57
  100%.
• 20:58
  If
• 20:58
  you
• 20:59
  don't
• 20:59
  have
• 20:59
  that
• 21:00
  I
• 21:00
  don't
• 21:00
  know
• 21:00
  what
• 21:00
  you
• 21:00
  do
• 21:01
  because
• 21:01
  that
• 21:02
  leaves
• 21:02
  you
• 21:02
  with
• 21:02
  effectively
• 21:03
  no
• 21:03
  option.
• 21:05
  The
• 21:05
  option
• 21:05
  is
• 21:06
  buy
• 21:06
  the
• 21:06
  horse,
• 21:07
  fall
• 21:07
  in
• 21:07
  line,
• 21:07
  get
• 21:07
  in
• 21:08
  the
• 21:08
  program.
• 21:08
  That's
• 21:09
  your
• 21:09
  option.
• 21:09
  Go
• 21:10
  to
• 21:10
  the
• 21:10
  rated
• 21:10
  shows,
• 21:10
  spend
• 21:11
  all
• 21:11
  the
• 21:11
  money.
• 21:11
  I
• 21:11
  mean,
• 21:12
  Right,
• 21:13
  Right.
• 21:14
  So
• 21:14
  what
• 21:14
  does
• 21:14
  that
• 21:15
  do
• 21:15
  to
• 21:15
  affordability
• 21:16
  ultimately?
• 21:17
  It's
• 21:18
  what
• 21:18
  you
• 21:18
  were
• 21:19
  saying
• 21:19
  before.
• 21:20
  And
• 21:21
  then,
• 21:21
  and
• 21:22
  then
• 21:22
  where
• 21:22
  do
• 21:22
  new
• 21:22
  riders
• 21:23
  come
• 21:23
  from?
• 21:24
  That's
• 21:24
  like,
• 21:25
  like
• 21:25
  one
• 21:25
  of
• 21:25
  the
• 21:26
  things
• 21:26
  I
• 21:26
  think
• 21:26
  about
• 21:27
  with
• 21:27
  Teagan.
• 21:28
  Right.
• 21:29
  Where
• 21:29
  would
• 21:29
  she
• 21:29
  go
• 21:30
  if
• 21:30
  she
• 21:30
  decided
• 21:30
  she
• 21:31
  got
• 21:31
  into
• 21:31
  horses?
• 21:32
  What
• 21:32
  kind
• 21:32
  of
• 21:32
  program
• 21:32
  would
• 21:33
  I
• 21:33
  want
• 21:33
  her
• 21:33
  to
• 21:34
  grow
• 21:34
  up
• 21:34
  in?
• 21:34
  Would
• 21:35
  I
• 21:35
  want
• 21:35
  her
• 21:36
  to
• 21:37
  be
• 21:37
  allowed
• 21:38
  to
• 21:38
  just
• 21:38
  show
• 21:38
  up
• 21:39
  and
• 21:39
  get
• 21:39
  on
• 21:39
  the
• 21:39
  horse?
• 21:40
  And
• 21:41
  I
• 21:41
  mean,
• 21:41
  hahaha,
• 21:42
  that
• 21:42
  would
• 21:42
  never
• 21:42
  happen
• 21:43
  in
• 21:43
  my.
• 21:44
  In
• 21:44
  my
• 21:44
  world,
• 21:44
  but
• 21:45
  you
• 21:45
  do
• 21:45
  have
• 21:45
  to
• 21:46
  think
• 21:46
  about
• 21:46
  those
• 21:46
  things.
• 21:47
  And
• 21:47
  so
• 21:48
  is.
• 21:48
  Is
• 21:49
  the
• 21:49
  option
• 21:49
  of,
• 21:50
  this
• 21:50
  is
• 21:50
  the
• 21:50
  pony
• 21:51
  you're
• 21:51
  riding
• 21:51
  today.
• 21:52
  Go
• 21:53
  get
• 21:53
  the
• 21:53
  pony
• 21:53
  out
• 21:54
  of
• 21:54
  the
• 21:54
  stall.
• 21:54
  Let's
• 21:54
  get
• 21:54
  it
• 21:55
  ready.
• 21:56
  And
• 21:56
  if
• 21:56
  those,
• 21:56
  if
• 21:57
  those
• 21:57
  programs
• 21:57
  don't
• 21:58
  exist
• 21:58
  anymore,
• 21:58
  does
• 21:58
  that
• 21:59
  mean
• 21:59
  it's
• 21:59
  up
• 21:59
  to
• 21:59
  me?
• 21:59
  Because
• 22:00
  I
• 22:00
  know
• 22:00
  if
• 22:00
  my
• 22:00
  mom
• 22:01
  was
• 22:01
  trying
• 22:01
  to
• 22:01
  teach
• 22:01
  me
• 22:01
  how
• 22:02
  to
• 22:02
  ride,
• 22:02
  which
• 22:03
  she
• 22:03
  sometimes
• 22:04
  likes
• 22:04
  to
• 22:05
  give
• 22:05
  opinions,
• 22:06
  still
• 22:06
  do
• 22:06
  more
• 22:07
  than
• 22:07
  she
• 22:08
  still
• 22:08
  does.
• 22:09
  I'm
• 22:10
  like,
• 22:10
  whoa,
• 22:10
  lady,
• 22:11
  wait
• 22:11
  a
• 22:11
  minute.
• 22:12
  We
• 22:12
  pay
• 22:12
  people
• 22:12
  for
• 22:12
  this,
• 22:13
  so
• 22:14
  please
• 22:14
  be
• 22:14
  quiet.
• 22:18
  You
• 22:18
  know,
• 22:18
  like.
• 22:18
  And
• 22:18
  so
• 22:19
  I
• 22:19
  have
• 22:19
  to
• 22:19
  imagine,
• 22:20
  like,
• 22:20
  okay,
• 22:20
  yeah,
• 22:21
  sure,
• 22:21
  I
• 22:21
  can
• 22:21
  teach
• 22:21
  my
• 22:22
  daughter,
• 22:22
  like,
• 22:22
  basic
• 22:23
  stuff,
• 22:23
  but
• 22:23
  at
• 22:23
  some
• 22:23
  point
• 22:24
  she's
• 22:24
  gonna
• 22:24
  tell
• 22:24
  me
• 22:24
  to,
• 22:25
  like,
• 22:25
  buzz
• 22:25
  off.
• 22:26
  Well,
• 22:27
  exactly.
• 22:27
  And
• 22:27
  when
• 22:28
  she
• 22:28
  sees
• 22:28
  her
• 22:28
  friend
• 22:29
  that's
• 22:29
  in
• 22:30
  the
• 22:30
  next
• 22:30
  wash
• 22:31
  stall
• 22:32
  not
• 22:32
  doing
• 22:33
  it
• 22:33
  and
• 22:33
  watching
• 22:34
  a
• 22:34
  grim
• 22:34
  do
• 22:35
  it,
• 22:35
  Teagan's
• 22:35
  gonna
• 22:36
  be
• 22:36
  like,
• 22:36
  why
• 22:36
  am
• 22:36
  I
• 22:36
  doing
• 22:37
  this?
• 22:38
  Exactly.
• 22:38
  You
• 22:38
  know,
• 22:39
  look
• 22:39
  at
• 22:39
  her.
• 22:40
  She
• 22:40
  doesn't
• 22:40
  have
• 22:40
  to.
• 22:42
  Yeah,
• 22:43
  but
• 22:44
  it
• 22:45
  is
• 22:45
  gonna
• 22:45
  really
• 22:46
  be
• 22:46
  interesting
• 22:47
  to
• 22:47
  see
• 22:48
  how
• 22:49
  that
• 22:49
  actually,
• 22:50
  ultimately,
• 22:51
  how
• 22:51
  does
• 22:51
  that
• 22:51
  lead
• 22:51
  to
• 22:52
  the
• 22:52
  survival
• 22:52
  of
• 22:53
  this
• 22:53
  business
• 22:54
  and
• 22:54
  the
• 22:54
  industry.
• 22:55
  Yeah.
• 22:55
  Honestly,
• 22:56
  you
• 22:56
  know,
• 22:57
  whether
• 22:57
  people
• 22:57
  thought
• 22:57
  the
• 22:57
  answers
• 22:58
  at
• 22:58
  the
• 22:58
  town
• 22:58
  hall
• 22:59
  were
• 22:59
  good
• 22:59
  or
• 22:59
  bad
• 23:00
  almost
• 23:01
  became
• 23:01
  secondary.
• 23:02
  Because
• 23:03
  what
• 23:03
  really
• 23:03
  mattered
• 23:04
  was
• 23:05
  what
• 23:05
  we
• 23:05
  were
• 23:06
  hearing
• 23:06
  in
• 23:06
  that
• 23:06
  room
• 23:07
  was
• 23:07
  how
• 23:07
  disconnected
• 23:08
  it
• 23:08
  sometimes
• 23:09
  sounded.
• 23:10
  Like
• 23:11
  often
• 23:11
  one
• 23:11
  side
• 23:12
  was
• 23:12
  talking
• 23:12
  about
• 23:12
  a
• 23:13
  process,
• 23:14
  the
• 23:14
  other
• 23:14
  side
• 23:14
  was
• 23:14
  talking
• 23:15
  about
• 23:15
  consequences.
• 23:16
  One
• 23:16
  side
• 23:17
  was
• 23:17
  talking
• 23:17
  about
• 23:17
  investigations,
• 23:18
  the
• 23:19
  other
• 23:19
  side
• 23:19
  was
• 23:19
  talking
• 23:19
  about
• 23:20
  whether
• 23:20
  they
• 23:20
  still
• 23:21
  feel
• 23:22
  heard.
• 23:22
  And
• 23:23
  I
• 23:23
  think
• 23:23
  that
• 23:24
  was
• 23:24
  the
• 23:24
  disconnect
• 23:24
  that
• 23:25
  most
• 23:25
  people
• 23:25
  reacted
• 23:26
  to.
• 23:26
  I
• 23:26
  really
• 23:27
  do
• 23:27
  think
• 23:27
  that
• 23:27
  people
• 23:28
  were
• 23:28
  pretty
• 23:29
  much
• 23:29
  scratching
• 23:29
  their
• 23:29
  heads
• 23:30
  at
• 23:30
  the
• 23:30
  end
• 23:30
  of
• 23:30
  it,
• 23:31
  saying,
• 23:31
  well,
• 23:31
  what
• 23:31
  did
• 23:32
  they.
• 23:32
  Yeah,
• 23:32
  well,
• 23:32
  I
• 23:32
  think.
• 23:33
  I
• 23:34
  think
• 23:34
  from
• 23:34
  like,
• 23:35
  the.
• 23:35
  The
• 23:36
  participant
• 23:37
  exhibitor
• 23:37
  side,
• 23:39
  I
• 23:39
  think
• 23:40
  people
• 23:41
  just
• 23:41
  want
• 23:41
  some
• 23:41
  accountability
• 23:43
  from
• 23:44
  governing
• 23:45
  bodies
• 23:46
  to
• 23:46
  say,
• 23:47
  hey,
• 23:48
  okay,
• 23:48
  we
• 23:49
  do
• 23:49
  hear
• 23:49
  you,
• 23:50
  and
• 23:51
  we're
• 23:51
  thinking
• 23:51
  about
• 23:52
  this,
• 23:52
  and
• 23:52
  we,
• 23:52
  you
• 23:53
  know,
• 23:53
  Maybe
• 23:53
  we
• 23:53
  don't
• 23:53
  have
• 23:54
  a
• 23:54
  solution
• 23:55
  or.
• 23:55
  But
• 23:55
  we're
• 23:55
  taking
• 23:55
  it
• 23:56
  all
• 23:56
  in.
• 23:56
  And.
• 23:57
  And
• 23:57
  some
• 23:57
  people
• 23:58
  might
• 23:58
  feel
• 23:58
  like
• 23:58
  that's
• 23:58
  fluff,
• 23:59
  but
• 23:59
  it.
• 23:59
  It
• 23:59
  is
• 24:00
  better
• 24:00
  than
• 24:00
  a
• 24:00
  response
• 24:01
  of
• 24:01
  what
• 24:02
  we're
• 24:02
  doing
• 24:02
  is
• 24:02
  right.
• 24:03
  And
• 24:04
  that's
• 24:04
  just
• 24:04
  the
• 24:04
  way
• 24:05
  it
• 24:05
  is.
• 24:05
  Imagine
• 24:06
  when
• 24:06
  you
• 24:06
  were
• 24:06
  a
• 24:06
  kid
• 24:07
  and
• 24:07
  your
• 24:07
  parents
• 24:07
  said,
• 24:07
  because
• 24:08
  I
• 24:08
  said
• 24:08
  so,
• 24:09
  that's
• 24:09
  not
• 24:09
  a
• 24:09
  reason
• 24:09
  as
• 24:10
  to
• 24:10
  why.
• 24:11
  And
• 24:11
  it
• 24:11
  left
• 24:11
  you
• 24:11
  feeling
• 24:12
  frustrated.
• 24:13
  And
• 24:13
  when
• 24:13
  your
• 24:13
  parents
• 24:14
  are
• 24:14
  providing
• 24:15
  for
• 24:15
  you,
• 24:15
  that's
• 24:16
  one
• 24:16
  thing.
• 24:16
  But
• 24:16
  in
• 24:16
  this
• 24:17
  case,
• 24:17
  we're
• 24:17
  members
• 24:18
  of
• 24:18
  a
• 24:18
  group
• 24:18
  and
• 24:19
  we're
• 24:19
  paying
• 24:20
  for
• 24:21
  that
• 24:22
  governance,
• 24:23
  or
• 24:23
  we're
• 24:24
  paying
• 24:24
  or
• 24:25
  paying
• 24:25
  to
• 24:25
  support
• 24:26
  that
• 24:26
  governance.
• 24:27
  Right.
• 24:27
  To
• 24:28
  have
• 24:28
  the
• 24:29
  horse's
• 24:29
  best
• 24:29
  interest
• 24:30
  in
• 24:30
  mind,
• 24:31
  to
• 24:31
  have
• 24:32
  the
• 24:32
  sports
• 24:32
  best
• 24:33
  interest
• 24:33
  in
• 24:33
  mind.
• 24:34
  And
• 24:34
  when
• 24:35
  you
• 24:35
  feel
• 24:35
  like
• 24:35
  that's
• 24:35
  not
• 24:36
  being
• 24:36
  accomplished,
• 24:37
  and
• 24:37
  I
• 24:37
  don't
• 24:37
  think
• 24:38
  anybody
• 24:38
  is
• 24:38
  expecting,
• 24:39
  like,
• 24:40
  an
• 24:40
  overnight
• 24:41
  solution
• 24:41
  to
• 24:42
  fix
• 24:42
  the
• 24:42
  whole,
• 24:43
  like,
• 24:44
  quote
• 24:44
  problem,
• 24:45
  but
• 24:45
  when,
• 24:45
  like
• 24:46
  you
• 24:46
  were
• 24:46
  saying,
• 24:46
  like,
• 24:46
  when
• 24:46
  the
• 24:47
  disconnect
• 24:47
  feels
• 24:48
  that
• 24:48
  large,
• 24:49
  you
• 24:49
  go,
• 24:49
  what.
• 24:50
  What
• 24:50
  on
• 24:50
  earth
• 24:50
  is
• 24:51
  happening?
• 24:51
  You
• 24:52
  feel
• 24:52
  basically
• 24:53
  like
• 24:53
  you're
• 24:54
  not
• 24:55
  important.
• 24:55
  And
• 24:56
  I
• 24:56
  don't
• 24:56
  think
• 24:56
  anybody
• 24:56
  needs
• 24:57
  to
• 24:57
  feel
• 24:57
  like
• 24:57
  they're
• 24:57
  the
• 24:57
  king
• 24:58
  of
• 24:58
  the
• 24:58
  world,
• 24:58
  but
• 24:58
  they
• 24:59
  just
• 24:59
  want
• 24:59
  to
• 24:59
  know
• 24:59
  that,
• 24:59
  you
• 25:00
  know,
• 25:00
  the
• 25:00
  things
• 25:00
  that
• 25:00
  are
• 25:00
  happening
• 25:01
  behind
• 25:01
  the
• 25:01
  scenes
• 25:02
  is
• 25:02
  going
• 25:02
  to
• 25:02
  make
• 25:02
  the
• 25:02
  most
• 25:03
  sense
• 25:03
  for
• 25:03
  them
• 25:03
  in
• 25:03
  the
• 25:04
  sport
• 25:04
  moving
• 25:05
  forward.
• 25:05
  And
• 25:06
  I
• 25:06
  don't
• 25:06
  think
• 25:06
  that
• 25:07
  anybody
• 25:07
  got
• 25:08
  feeling,
• 25:08
  you
• 25:09
  know,
• 25:09
  feeling
• 25:10
  like
• 25:10
  the
• 25:11
  temperature
• 25:11
  had
• 25:11
  lowered
• 25:12
  much.
• 25:13
  Yeah.
• 25:14
  Because
• 25:15
  questions
• 25:16
  really
• 25:17
  weren't
• 25:17
  answered,
• 25:18
  and
• 25:18
  I
• 25:18
  think
• 25:19
  that
• 25:19
  makes
• 25:19
  it
• 25:21
  harder
• 25:21
  to
• 25:21
  understand
• 25:22
  what's
• 25:22
  going
• 25:22
  on.
• 25:23
  I
• 25:24
  keep
• 25:24
  going
• 25:24
  back
• 25:25
  to
• 25:25
  this,
• 25:25
  but
• 25:26
  this
• 25:26
  week
• 25:26
  I
• 25:27
  feel
• 25:27
  like
• 25:27
  we've
• 25:27
  been
• 25:27
  flooded
• 25:28
  with
• 25:28
  articles
• 25:29
  on
• 25:29
  TikTok,
• 25:30
  Instagram,
• 25:31
  Facebook
• 25:31
  of
• 25:32
  different
• 25:32
  people
• 25:32
  writing.
• 25:33
  Somebody
• 25:34
  sent
• 25:34
  me
• 25:35
  a
• 25:35
  link
• 25:35
  to
• 25:36
  a
• 25:36
  Daily
• 25:36
  Mail
• 25:37
  from.
• 25:38
  Daily
• 25:39
  Mail
• 25:39
  is
• 25:39
  a
• 25:40
  British
• 25:40
  mag
• 25:41
  newspaper,
• 25:42
  and
• 25:42
  there
• 25:42
  was
• 25:42
  an
• 25:42
  article
• 25:44
  about
• 25:44
  Wellington
• 25:45
  today.
• 25:45
  What?
• 25:46
  It's.
• 25:46
  It's
• 25:47
  obviously.
• 25:48
  Yeah,
• 25:48
  I'll
• 25:49
  tell
• 25:49
  you
• 25:49
  what,
• 25:49
  the.
• 25:50
  The
• 25:50
  link.
• 25:51
  It's
• 25:51
  the
• 25:52
  article
• 25:52
  about
• 25:53
  Wellington
• 25:53
  and
• 25:54
  this
• 25:54
  and
• 25:54
  its
• 25:54
  scandals.
• 25:55
  Scandals
• 25:56
  plague.
• 25:56
  Horse
• 25:57
  girls
• 25:58
  of
• 25:58
  America's
• 25:59
  spoiled
• 26:00
  brat
• 26:01
  capital.
• 26:02
  Oh,
• 26:03
  and
• 26:03
  that
• 26:03
  was
• 26:03
  in
• 26:03
  the
• 26:04
  Daily
• 26:04
  Mail.
• 26:04
  That's
• 26:05
  a.
• 26:05
  That's
• 26:05
  a
• 26:06
  headline.
• 26:07
  Scandals
• 26:08
  Plague.
• 26:09
  Yeah.
• 26:09
  Scandals
• 26:10
  plague
• 26:10
  Horse
• 26:11
  girls
• 26:11
  of
• 26:12
  America's
• 26:13
  Spoiled
• 26:13
  Brat
• 26:14
  Capital.
• 26:15
  If
• 26:16
  we're
• 26:16
  making
• 26:16
  it
• 26:16
  to
• 26:17
  London
• 26:18
  newspapers,
• 26:19
  I
• 26:20
  mean,
• 26:20
  you
• 26:21
  know,
• 26:24
  so
• 26:25
  I
• 26:25
  guess.
• 26:27
  I
• 26:27
  guess
• 26:27
  maybe
• 26:28
  that's
• 26:28
  the
• 26:28
  real
• 26:28
  conversation
• 26:29
  under
• 26:29
  all
• 26:30
  of
• 26:30
  this.
• 26:30
  It's
• 26:31
  not
• 26:31
  whether
• 26:31
  this
• 26:32
  board
• 26:32
  is
• 26:32
  changing,
• 26:33
  because
• 26:33
  it
• 26:33
  always
• 26:33
  changes.
• 26:34
  It's
• 26:35
  just
• 26:35
  the
• 26:35
  question
• 26:35
  is
• 26:36
  whether
• 26:37
  the
• 26:37
  people
• 26:37
  that
• 26:38
  are
• 26:38
  living
• 26:38
  inside
• 26:39
  of
• 26:39
  all
• 26:39
  this
• 26:40
  still
• 26:40
  feel
• 26:41
  connected
• 26:41
  to
• 26:41
  where
• 26:41
  it's
• 26:42
  heading.
• 26:43
  Because
• 26:43
  clearly
• 26:44
  people
• 26:44
  are
• 26:44
  writing
• 26:45
  about
• 26:45
  things
• 26:45
  that
• 26:45
  have
• 26:46
  nothing
• 26:46
  to
• 26:46
  do
• 26:46
  with
• 26:47
  us.
• 26:48
  So,
• 26:48
  yeah,
• 26:49
  you
• 26:49
  know,
• 26:50
  when
• 26:50
  people.
• 26:51
  So
• 26:51
  when
• 26:51
  people
• 26:52
  stop
• 26:52
  feeling
• 26:53
  hurt,
• 26:53
  they
• 26:53
  start
• 26:53
  sounding
• 26:54
  emotional.
• 26:55
  And
• 26:55
  honestly,
• 26:56
  after
• 26:57
  listening
• 26:57
  back
• 26:58
  at
• 26:58
  that
• 26:58
  room,
• 26:59
  it
• 26:59
  makes
• 26:59
  them
• 26:59
  uneasy.
• 27:00
  I
• 27:00
  understand
• 27:01
  why.
• 27:01
  Yeah.
• 27:03
  So,
• 27:03
  Reynolds,
• 27:04
  as
• 27:04
  we
• 27:05
  say,
• 27:06
  let's
• 27:06
  ride.